April 7, 2025 • 17 mins
The current administration has not been shy about detaining and deporting people, legally or not. We break down some of what's going on.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.
I never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And before we start this Monday, Mini, I'm going to
put a time stamp because we are a little ahead
so getting things completed because we have future plans. So
today is April first, twenty twenty five. And as it stands,
you know, things change rapidly and we will see new
conversations about this, because this is going to.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Be a long, long process.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So before we start, I am in just to show
you know where I am personally, a whirlwind of anxiety
and fear, and I'm not gonna lie. As this new
administration or newer I guess this current administration has gotten
more embolden and doing things without justification or even actually legally,
(01:05):
I am in a state of fear. So as this
episode is being recorded, I'm currently getting ready for a
quick road trip to New Orleans, one of my favorite places.
But I have become really anxious about traveling, especially traveling
through Red states.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And I say this even in the state of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I have had my fair share of racial profiling overall,
concerning looks from people who do not seem especially friendly
to people of color, marginalized people, anyone different. And although
I come from an area that is also very suspicious
of anyone of color or anybody who looks different, I
feel like this administration has made people really bowld in
(01:47):
upfront about these political views or ideals when it comes
to the decimation of civil rights and.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
DEI so with that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Fact, and then on top of that, we have white
supremaist groups, white supremacist groups getting funding to get military training,
which is really concerning. They're often protected by police and government.
We've seen that with different types of protests that have
happened and being pardoned for harassment, assaults, and even murder.
So yes, I am very fearful about things. And with that,
(02:23):
I have gotten into the practice of carrying my passport
around on the daily in fear of being approached by ice.
And recent stories have been coming out of different people
who've been detained without warrants or due process and being
essentially kidnapped and sold due to their ideology. The same
people who are saying that it would happen to them
(02:45):
if their holy beliefs had been used against them, and
you know, they also use this and saying that they're martyrs,
you know, and that they're being persecuted. They're the same
defenders who are cheering this on, saying that this is
God's will and they're getting rid of the bad people,
so bad beings essentially, if you don't believe what I
believe is what we're getting at, labeling anyone as terrorist
(03:08):
if they question the motives or actions of the current
administration and their allies, and using this as a defense
of trafficking people out.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So with all of that, this is very.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Personal to me. I'm not gonna go into too much detail.
I will say a lot of adoptees, like myself, have
been very concerned for a long time because it's been
really sticky in situations like naturalization in the process of
doing it and people being ignorant to how that is
completed and done. And then just recently again more so
now to the fact that I've been on message boards
(03:41):
with adoptees talking about their heritage, talking about be careful
of what you put up on social media. And of
course this is just to everyone, but specifically to adoptees
because it could be used against them. So yeah, it's
very very personal. So just from the National Immigration Law Center, quote.
In January twenty twenty five, DHS issued a memo expanding
(04:02):
the use of expedited removal. Under this policy, the government
can detain and depoor people without seeing a judge if
they cannot prove they've lived in the United States for
at least two years. Undocumented people should carry evidence of
two years residency if they have it, if they are arrested,
show it to an officer to prevent deportation without a
chance to see a judge. There's a lot to be
(04:25):
alarmed about this, but one thing to remember there have
been instances that I does not care about your proof
or if you are found somewhere without your ID, they
don't wait around. Also, a lot of them go forward
going after people without warrants or documents and go and
again nothing as signed by a judge, So they do
not care. Literally to the point that someone was recently
(04:48):
detained and there said I am a Green card holder,
and they said your green card has been revoked. That's
all they said. They didn't show anything, they didn't prove anything,
they didn't take them in front of anyone, they didn't
allow for lawyers, nothing, and that was enough, and they
got detained and they were lost in the system for
a good long time. Turned out they were in border
(05:11):
patrol incarceration detainee in Louisiana and a jail in there,
an institution there, and I think they're still there. There
are several people who have actually been deported to El Salvador,
and that's a whole different conversation that we're not having today,
but it's concerning and we should be talking about in
current affairs.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And there have been.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Also those who've been detained again who have just had
their visas revoked. So, yes, are these people who are
here quote unquote legally, which you know we hate that
term in general, but as for all purposes whatever, Yes,
they had their visas, they had their sponsorship, everything was
legally done, and they were revoked. Many of them were
(05:54):
detained at their university or on their university campus or
near their campus, which is a conversation again that we
need to have as well about the fact that these universities,
prestigious schools are conceding and bowing down before actual need.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So that says a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And the basis is a large conversation about the much
beloved and hated idea of free speech. Once again, something
that the right wing community often holler about, I have
free speech, what's matter with free speech?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But that's only for me if I'm white and Christian conservative.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But again, so why are they being detained and deported?
Here's a bit from cbsnews dot Com with an article
published on March thirty. First Quote Secretary of State Mark
Rubio cited a provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act
that authorizes the nation's top diplomat to revoke the visas
of foreign national students on the ground that their presence
or activities have quote potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences
(07:00):
for the US. The federal government is not required to
lay out proof beyond that explanation, legal experts told CBS News,
setting up a legal showdown over foreign nationals free speech
rights in the US. Quote, there's a tension between everyone's
First Amendment rights to free speech and the immigration statutes
broad provisions giving the Secretary of State broad latitude to
(07:20):
declare someone deportable simply because he thinks that the student
may have potential serious adverse foreign policies consequences, and the
courts will have to figure out where the appropriate line
should be drawn, says Steven Yelle Lare, a retired immigration
law professor of Cornell University. Rubio said Thursday the State
Department has canceled more than three hundred visas and that
(07:41):
there are primarily student visas. Several high profile cases are
related to students who led or participated in pro Palestinian
activities and disruptive protests, which the administration has equated to
activity supporting hamas a US designated terrorist group. So one
(08:01):
of the protests, I'm talking about our citizens. They had
several cit ins and walkouts of classes, very very very violent.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Sorry haasm.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Also as a reminder, one of the people who were deported,
Mohammad Khalil, was a student at Columbia University and a
Green card holder, which is a legal permanent resident, so
permanent is currently again detained. Some more from the CBS
News article, they write Khalil was born in Palestine refugee
camp in Syria, has a green card or legal permanent residency,
(08:34):
and his wife is an American citizen. Immigration authorities initially
told Khalil that they were acting on a Security Department
order to revoke his student visa, but when they were
informed that he had a green card, the agent said
they were revoking that, and that's just according to his attorney.
The article continues. Green cards, however, cannot be rescinded as
simply as visas. The government suggests in a court filing
(08:55):
earlier this week that it could move to revoke his
status for allegedly omitting information on his immigration forms, including
his involvement with the United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees
known as UNRWA in a group known as Columbia University
Apartheid Divests. But at the core of the US government's
detention and aim deportation of Khalil is a rarely used
(09:15):
section of the Immigration and Nationality Act that subjects non
citizens to possible deportations if their presence and activities are
deemed threatening to the foreign policy interests of the US.
So a lot of this is just on the fly,
And this is one of the conversations again that I
was really really concerned by, because naturalization is also under
(09:37):
that same conversation that if they see you as a
terrorist group, if they name you as someone who is
plotting against the government, and that could be as easily
stated as you were in a protest that they did
not like. So a lot of this is just like
what is going on. And by the way, the same
law has been used to detain Georgetown University researcher I'm
(09:57):
so sorry I forgot the name on Badar Khan, as
well as another Columbia University student and legal permanent resident,
Yun Soo Chung, who is a Korean American Green cardholder.
(10:19):
So there's so many more who are being detained. There's
a huge list. And obviously, as we said, three hundred
visas were revoked. The amount of people who are being
detained that are American citizens are actually really concerning. They
don't have a number because they don't have to. They
don't even have to tell a judge as in fact,
so again they are deported, detained under the guise of
(10:41):
terrorism or a threat to foreign policy and coming back
into the country from even visiting or even visiting the
country has put many people under suspicion, with widespread conversations
about how to lock down your phones, as the government
has the right to search your phones upon entry, re
entry of the country, entry or re entry the way,
many have been pulled aside for lengthy questioning. Many who
(11:04):
have stated they were profiled by TSA yes, chunk of
them are people of color, and many other nations have
advised their people not to travel to the US and
or a given travel advisory from an article from conte
Nast Travel, which I thought was interesting they wrote following
these incidents, Canada and several European countries have issued travel
(11:26):
advisories for the US. While most of the government warnings
don't specify why they were added, the timing points to
the Trump administration's executive orders regarding immigration and tightening of
border policies.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I also want to put right here.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
When I was trying to look up these conversations of
these articles, the initial when I would just put like
names popped up the state government guidelines. So I found
that very suspicious because usually you'll get hot topic stuff
at the top of searches, all of a sudden, they're
not there. I had to be very specific in finding
(12:01):
these articles alarming. We already know where Google is on
the side of this administration. They have been the knee
We've had this conversation, so it's showing just an FYI.
So with that and some of the warnings that we
were talking about are due to the recent anti trans policies,
(12:22):
but put in place by the administration.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
The heightened advisories come after citizens from European countries have
been detained and deported by immigration officials while traveling to
the United States. Some of the warnings also know that
the State Department has also suspended its policy allowing transgender
intersects and non binary people to update the sex field
on their passwords, eliminating the X marker as an option. So, yes,
(12:46):
this is a huge conversation. We know that several Canadians
have been detained. We know that several people from Germany
have been detained. So yeah, this is a huge, huge,
very worrisome conversation. My family wants to travel outside of
the US, and I am very much backing out in
concerns to this. And here's this level of like, not
(13:09):
because I did anything wrong, but because of my stance
and beliefs that I am scared that they are going
to use this podcast against me, my job against me.
You know, things that I have said in light of
wanting to see better humanity in conversations where I ask
why police have been shooting innocent black people, or why
(13:34):
millions of civilians are dying in this supposed terrorist war
on hamas when it's seemingly not that way. How humanitarian
aid trucks are being bombed and being deterred from entering
places to help civilians. Once again, like, there's so many conversations,
and I'm not ashamed of these point of views, but
(13:54):
I am concerned that where the US is turning, and
knowing that I am a naturalized citizen, that fact I
was brought here.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
By white people, very conservative white people who voted for
this fool dude person dot dot dot. So there's a
lot to be talking about. I know we're gonna have
any more.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
There are challenges happening, but the concern to that also
is the fact that they the administration does not care. Yeah,
and then this bigger conversation about the fact because the
administration are mad at the judges for not upholding his
or even questioning their authority, they are talking about changing
the judicial system, which the Supreme Court has allowed, and
(14:38):
now some of the people of Supreme.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Court are like, ooh, you can't do what. Yeah, it's
a lot of concern.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I will update you when I'm back about how the
travel goes. I again, I hope that I'm just I'm
not being paranoid. But I hope that I'm just being
a little bit overleagle, little too concerned, and that it'll
be fine. But as I said, driving through some of
(15:08):
these red states that have sundowntown still again, Georgia does too.
Georgia does too, which is also why I don't like
to travel outs out of Atlanta too often. In going
to Louisiana, which is a red state, but Louisiana has
some amazing things happened this week last week when they
fought against some amendments, very conservative amendments. Go ahead, Louisiana,
(15:30):
proud of you, but going into an area and hoping
for my safety and other people's safety in general, and
how to support businesses that are being affected.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
By the administration. Again, I also had Annie.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I had already told Annie that I had all these
subjects that I was thinking about talking about. And another
one was how do you travel to red states like ours,
but do it in a conscious moral way without supporting
the policies and the things of the government of that
(16:08):
state seems to be doing. That's another conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's a big one. Yeah, this is why these Monday
minis get away from most frequently it's difficult.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So many things.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, yes, there are well. I hope you have a
lovely time.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You and I will be in touch. I am dog
sitting peaches everyone. Yes, yes, in the Haunted Hills, but
I have I don't know if I would keep this
promise to myself, but I swore to myself I wouldn't
watch any horror movies. So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.
I never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And before we start this Monday, Mini, I'm going to
put a time stamp because we are a little ahead
so getting things completed because we have future plans. So
today is April first, twenty twenty five. And as it stands,
you know, things change rapidly and we will see new
conversations about this, because this is going to.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Be a long, long process.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So before we start, I am in just to show
you know where I am personally, a whirlwind of anxiety
and fear, and I'm not gonna lie. As this new
administration or newer I guess this current administration has gotten
more embolden and doing things without justification or even actually legally,
(01:05):
I am in a state of fear. So as this
episode is being recorded, I'm currently getting ready for a
quick road trip to New Orleans, one of my favorite places.
But I have become really anxious about traveling, especially traveling
through Red states.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And I say this even in the state of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I have had my fair share of racial profiling overall,
concerning looks from people who do not seem especially friendly
to people of color, marginalized people, anyone different. And although
I come from an area that is also very suspicious
of anyone of color or anybody who looks different, I
feel like this administration has made people really bowld in
(01:47):
upfront about these political views or ideals when it comes
to the decimation of civil rights and.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
DEI so with that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Fact, and then on top of that, we have white
supremaist groups, white supremacist groups getting funding to get military training,
which is really concerning. They're often protected by police and government.
We've seen that with different types of protests that have
happened and being pardoned for harassment, assaults, and even murder.
So yes, I am very fearful about things. And with that,
(02:23):
I have gotten into the practice of carrying my passport
around on the daily in fear of being approached by ice.
And recent stories have been coming out of different people
who've been detained without warrants or due process and being
essentially kidnapped and sold due to their ideology. The same
people who are saying that it would happen to them
(02:45):
if their holy beliefs had been used against them, and
you know, they also use this and saying that they're martyrs,
you know, and that they're being persecuted. They're the same
defenders who are cheering this on, saying that this is
God's will and they're getting rid of the bad people,
so bad beings essentially, if you don't believe what I
believe is what we're getting at, labeling anyone as terrorist
(03:08):
if they question the motives or actions of the current
administration and their allies, and using this as a defense
of trafficking people out.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So with all of that, this is very.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Personal to me. I'm not gonna go into too much detail.
I will say a lot of adoptees, like myself, have
been very concerned for a long time because it's been
really sticky in situations like naturalization in the process of
doing it and people being ignorant to how that is
completed and done. And then just recently again more so
now to the fact that I've been on message boards
(03:41):
with adoptees talking about their heritage, talking about be careful
of what you put up on social media. And of
course this is just to everyone, but specifically to adoptees
because it could be used against them. So yeah, it's
very very personal. So just from the National Immigration Law Center, quote.
In January twenty twenty five, DHS issued a memo expanding
(04:02):
the use of expedited removal. Under this policy, the government
can detain and depoor people without seeing a judge if
they cannot prove they've lived in the United States for
at least two years. Undocumented people should carry evidence of
two years residency if they have it, if they are arrested,
show it to an officer to prevent deportation without a
chance to see a judge. There's a lot to be
(04:25):
alarmed about this, but one thing to remember there have
been instances that I does not care about your proof
or if you are found somewhere without your ID, they
don't wait around. Also, a lot of them go forward
going after people without warrants or documents and go and
again nothing as signed by a judge, So they do
not care. Literally to the point that someone was recently
(04:48):
detained and there said I am a Green card holder,
and they said your green card has been revoked. That's
all they said. They didn't show anything, they didn't prove anything,
they didn't take them in front of anyone, they didn't
allow for lawyers, nothing, and that was enough, and they
got detained and they were lost in the system for
a good long time. Turned out they were in border
(05:11):
patrol incarceration detainee in Louisiana and a jail in there,
an institution there, and I think they're still there. There
are several people who have actually been deported to El Salvador,
and that's a whole different conversation that we're not having today,
but it's concerning and we should be talking about in
current affairs.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And there have been.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Also those who've been detained again who have just had
their visas revoked. So, yes, are these people who are
here quote unquote legally, which you know we hate that
term in general, but as for all purposes whatever, Yes,
they had their visas, they had their sponsorship, everything was
legally done, and they were revoked. Many of them were
(05:54):
detained at their university or on their university campus or
near their campus, which is a conversation again that we
need to have as well about the fact that these universities,
prestigious schools are conceding and bowing down before actual need.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So that says a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And the basis is a large conversation about the much
beloved and hated idea of free speech. Once again, something
that the right wing community often holler about, I have
free speech, what's matter with free speech?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But that's only for me if I'm white and Christian conservative.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But again, so why are they being detained and deported?
Here's a bit from cbsnews dot Com with an article
published on March thirty. First Quote Secretary of State Mark
Rubio cited a provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act
that authorizes the nation's top diplomat to revoke the visas
of foreign national students on the ground that their presence
or activities have quote potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences
(07:00):
for the US. The federal government is not required to
lay out proof beyond that explanation, legal experts told CBS News,
setting up a legal showdown over foreign nationals free speech
rights in the US. Quote, there's a tension between everyone's
First Amendment rights to free speech and the immigration statutes
broad provisions giving the Secretary of State broad latitude to
(07:20):
declare someone deportable simply because he thinks that the student
may have potential serious adverse foreign policies consequences, and the
courts will have to figure out where the appropriate line
should be drawn, says Steven Yelle Lare, a retired immigration
law professor of Cornell University. Rubio said Thursday the State
Department has canceled more than three hundred visas and that
(07:41):
there are primarily student visas. Several high profile cases are
related to students who led or participated in pro Palestinian
activities and disruptive protests, which the administration has equated to
activity supporting hamas a US designated terrorist group. So one
(08:01):
of the protests, I'm talking about our citizens. They had
several cit ins and walkouts of classes, very very very violent.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Sorry haasm.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Also as a reminder, one of the people who were deported,
Mohammad Khalil, was a student at Columbia University and a
Green card holder, which is a legal permanent resident, so
permanent is currently again detained. Some more from the CBS
News article, they write Khalil was born in Palestine refugee
camp in Syria, has a green card or legal permanent residency,
(08:34):
and his wife is an American citizen. Immigration authorities initially
told Khalil that they were acting on a Security Department
order to revoke his student visa, but when they were
informed that he had a green card, the agent said
they were revoking that, and that's just according to his attorney.
The article continues. Green cards, however, cannot be rescinded as
simply as visas. The government suggests in a court filing
(08:55):
earlier this week that it could move to revoke his
status for allegedly omitting information on his immigration forms, including
his involvement with the United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees
known as UNRWA in a group known as Columbia University
Apartheid Divests. But at the core of the US government's
detention and aim deportation of Khalil is a rarely used
(09:15):
section of the Immigration and Nationality Act that subjects non
citizens to possible deportations if their presence and activities are
deemed threatening to the foreign policy interests of the US.
So a lot of this is just on the fly,
And this is one of the conversations again that I
was really really concerned by, because naturalization is also under
(09:37):
that same conversation that if they see you as a
terrorist group, if they name you as someone who is
plotting against the government, and that could be as easily
stated as you were in a protest that they did
not like. So a lot of this is just like
what is going on. And by the way, the same
law has been used to detain Georgetown University researcher I'm
(09:57):
so sorry I forgot the name on Badar Khan, as
well as another Columbia University student and legal permanent resident,
Yun Soo Chung, who is a Korean American Green cardholder.
(10:19):
So there's so many more who are being detained. There's
a huge list. And obviously, as we said, three hundred
visas were revoked. The amount of people who are being
detained that are American citizens are actually really concerning. They
don't have a number because they don't have to. They
don't even have to tell a judge as in fact,
so again they are deported, detained under the guise of
(10:41):
terrorism or a threat to foreign policy and coming back
into the country from even visiting or even visiting the
country has put many people under suspicion, with widespread conversations
about how to lock down your phones, as the government
has the right to search your phones upon entry, re
entry of the country, entry or re entry the way,
many have been pulled aside for lengthy questioning. Many who
(11:04):
have stated they were profiled by TSA yes, chunk of
them are people of color, and many other nations have
advised their people not to travel to the US and
or a given travel advisory from an article from conte
Nast Travel, which I thought was interesting they wrote following
these incidents, Canada and several European countries have issued travel
(11:26):
advisories for the US. While most of the government warnings
don't specify why they were added, the timing points to
the Trump administration's executive orders regarding immigration and tightening of
border policies.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I also want to put right here.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
When I was trying to look up these conversations of
these articles, the initial when I would just put like
names popped up the state government guidelines. So I found
that very suspicious because usually you'll get hot topic stuff
at the top of searches, all of a sudden, they're
not there. I had to be very specific in finding
(12:01):
these articles alarming. We already know where Google is on
the side of this administration. They have been the knee
We've had this conversation, so it's showing just an FYI.
So with that and some of the warnings that we
were talking about are due to the recent anti trans policies,
(12:22):
but put in place by the administration.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
The heightened advisories come after citizens from European countries have
been detained and deported by immigration officials while traveling to
the United States. Some of the warnings also know that
the State Department has also suspended its policy allowing transgender
intersects and non binary people to update the sex field
on their passwords, eliminating the X marker as an option. So, yes,
(12:46):
this is a huge conversation. We know that several Canadians
have been detained. We know that several people from Germany
have been detained. So yeah, this is a huge, huge,
very worrisome conversation. My family wants to travel outside of
the US, and I am very much backing out in
concerns to this. And here's this level of like, not
(13:09):
because I did anything wrong, but because of my stance
and beliefs that I am scared that they are going
to use this podcast against me, my job against me.
You know, things that I have said in light of
wanting to see better humanity in conversations where I ask
why police have been shooting innocent black people, or why
(13:34):
millions of civilians are dying in this supposed terrorist war
on hamas when it's seemingly not that way. How humanitarian
aid trucks are being bombed and being deterred from entering
places to help civilians. Once again, like, there's so many conversations,
and I'm not ashamed of these point of views, but
(13:54):
I am concerned that where the US is turning, and
knowing that I am a naturalized citizen, that fact I
was brought here.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
By white people, very conservative white people who voted for
this fool dude person dot dot dot. So there's a
lot to be talking about. I know we're gonna have
any more.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
There are challenges happening, but the concern to that also
is the fact that they the administration does not care. Yeah,
and then this bigger conversation about the fact because the
administration are mad at the judges for not upholding his
or even questioning their authority, they are talking about changing
the judicial system, which the Supreme Court has allowed, and
(14:38):
now some of the people of Supreme.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Court are like, ooh, you can't do what. Yeah, it's
a lot of concern.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I will update you when I'm back about how the
travel goes. I again, I hope that I'm just I'm
not being paranoid. But I hope that I'm just being
a little bit overleagle, little too concerned, and that it'll
be fine. But as I said, driving through some of
(15:08):
these red states that have sundowntown still again, Georgia does too.
Georgia does too, which is also why I don't like
to travel outs out of Atlanta too often. In going
to Louisiana, which is a red state, but Louisiana has
some amazing things happened this week last week when they
fought against some amendments, very conservative amendments. Go ahead, Louisiana,
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proud of you, but going into an area and hoping
for my safety and other people's safety in general, and
how to support businesses that are being affected.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
By the administration. Again, I also had Annie.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I had already told Annie that I had all these
subjects that I was thinking about talking about. And another
one was how do you travel to red states like ours,
but do it in a conscious moral way without supporting
the policies and the things of the government of that
(16:08):
state seems to be doing. That's another conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's a big one. Yeah, this is why these Monday
minis get away from most frequently it's difficult.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So many things.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, yes, there are well. I hope you have a
lovely time.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You and I will be in touch. I am dog
sitting peaches everyone. Yes, yes, in the Haunted Hills, but
I have I don't know if I would keep this
promise to myself, but I swore to myself I wouldn't
watch any horror movies. So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yes, yeah, but as always, listeners, if you have any
thoughts about this, if you have any resources or organizations
you think that we should shout out, or any news
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My and your contributor Joey.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Thank you, and thanks to you for listening.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
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