March 28, 2014 • 38 mins
Is the world really littered with underground military bases? Is it possible to find them on your own?
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From UFOs, two ghosts and government cover ups. History is
world with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hey, everybody,
welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and
I'm then and we will introduce ourselves every single episode
(00:23):
and you're gonna like it. By the way, this is
stuff they don't want you to know. That's the show name.
Hey man, nice, you're a rare form today. Yeah. Yeah,
had kind of a long, long morning. Let's yeah, long morning.
What what was going on just before we get to
the actual show. Well, you know I have two dogs, right, yeah, listeners,
(00:43):
I have two dogs. U one of them, well, I
can't say it any other way. It pooped right next
to my computer this morning. Oh Mandy, No, it wasn't Buddy.
It was Penny. Oh yeah, the young one. She just
doesn't know. Um, I guess where her poop goes. I thought,
I thought I taught her. But better next to the
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computer than on the computer. Yes, if she was able
to poop somehow on top of that huge uh tower,
or perhaps inside of it, we would have a serious issue, angry,
I pressed though. Oh yeah, oh man, it would be
like eating the whole wheel of cheese, you know, right? Yeah? Hey, um,
does I wanted to ask you, does Penny dig Is
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she a digger? She's a massive digger. She usually can't
get too far down. I haven't discovered anything notorious, nefarious,
nefarious or notorious. I guess for it to be notorious,
it does have to be known precisely. Sorry about that,
uh them. The reason I ask, of course, is because
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you know who else is really into digging ants? Ants? Yeah,
and not that checklist Slovakian cult we talked about. But
I'm talking about every government in the world pretty much
is I'm trying to say a pun, but every government
in the world, I give up, is digging deeper into
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underground military basis. And that's what we're talking about today,
Deep underground military base or d u MB for those
in the know. Matt first question goes to you, are
these real? Absolutely? They are real? Yes. Uh. It's really
difficult to prove a couple of things, mostly how many
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of these things there are. However, we we can confirm
right here on this show. Yes they are real, and
you probably know several of them. We're gonna talk about
some of those and then we're gonna get to the
ones that maybe you don't know about. Yeah, and along
the way, we're also going to respond to your requests
both on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter and probably a couple
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of other things. Um to look at some of the
claims of Phil Schneider. Absolutely yes, I'm also going to
pronounce dull say correctly yes and Okay. Now I can't
decide if it's truly dual, say as in sweet the
Spanish word sweet or and I've heard both from our
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listeners and from what I can find, I'm not sure.
Well people are writing into correct this will will contact
a local resident. Yeah, but then they might say I
say it both ways. So we know that military bases
are um are very old concept, of course, but we
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also know that bunkers are very old concept. They predate
most nation states in the world today, just because going
back to when human beings were just trying to build
permanent shelters and underground area makes a lot of sense.
It's easy, you can fortify it. Temperatures are more can
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rolled there absolutely well, and yeah, and especially if you
get into a war scenario and there are bombs being
dropped on top of your head. The further you are
into the ground, the better at least in theory. Right. Yeah,
and now we still apply that same theory, and now
we know that after thousands of years of continual human civilization,
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we have a world that is littered with basses that
have been abandoned or repurposed and in some cases forgotten entirely.
And maybe we shouldn't say basis, we should say underground structures. Yeah. So, uh,
let's see if we're gonna talk. You had a really
good idea. Let's talk about some that we do know
that are proven, that are in some in some way
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or another unclassified. Okay, well, let's talk about one that
we mentioned in our video. If you haven't watched it,
please check that out. Raven Rock. Now, this is pretty cool.
This is um this is something that began, at least
construction began in the nineteen fifties. Um Harrius Harris Truman
actually approved this site and it was kind of it
was meant to be a relocation site for Pentagon staff
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in case of an emergency, in case you have to
continue the functions continuity of government. Absolutely, this is crazy. Ben.
Over one and a half million yards of granite rock
were just blasted just destroyed in order to create this thing. Um,
and and they did it in something like ten months,
a fairly short period of time to create something this huge. Wow.
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I guess that's what happens when you when the federal
government really does want something done. Oh uh, yeah, we
know that there were also five three story buildings originally
built in this And what did they get when they
moved out one point five million cubic yards of granite rock?
They got seven hundred thousand square feet of usable space.
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And this isn't like, this is not just some empty warehouse,
you know, with like a toilet in the corner. This
is this is a pretty high end thing. It's got
um an underground several underground reservoirs, you're drinking water so
you don't get mutant water in a nuclear event, high
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tech ventilation system, a fire department, a dentist uh clinic.
Of course, they have dining facility, a post office because um,
apparently you gotta send mail out in that emergency situation.
You gotta find a way to communicate with everybody, and
snail mail is still I guess the optimum thing. Yeah,
if the postman has taught us anything, Oh, Kevin Costner.
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Hey they do you know they also have a chapel there, No,
that makes sense, yeah, dude, And a barbershop because you
gotta look clean, you know what I mean? So fresh? Yeah,
and so clean. Uh, fitness center and one that surprised
us the most, or surprised me the most, Starbucks. Yeah,
it's it's long hours making an underground base run, so right,
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which lets us know that the Raven Rock Mountain complex,
I'm gonna say, is it's not that classified if you
have a if you have a Starbucks. Now granted, uh,
there was for a very long time. There may still
be a subway in the pentagon Um, which I think
I heard this and never confirmed it the dubious distinction
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of being the only subway in the world that required
a security clearance, so you have to get vetted. Can
you imagine working applying for a job there and they're
digging through your elementary school records and those poor nineteen
year old kids with acne. I mean, yeah, I've been there. Now,
you can't be a nineteen year old over the past
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and much artists over there don't find out. But that's
not the only mountain complex that exists that there's also
the Cheyenne Mountain Complex. And this is something that you've
probably seen in movies or comics or just you've probably
seen this thing all over the place. It's located really
close to color out of Springs in Colorado, obviously, and
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it's situated pretty deep in two thousand feet of granite.
And this facility was designed to withstand a five megaton
nuclear explosion from to one point seven miles away. And
because we're talking about nuclear explosions, we're measuring in terms
of proximity, So if it was one point six miles away,
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they'd be in a little bit of trouble. So what
they're saying, right is you could detonate a bomb a
little under two miles away, and it's and it's pretty
far out of the way, so you'd have to target
it pretty closely. Yeah, yeah, in Colorado Springs. There. Um,
there's a there's a third one that we wanted to
talk about, which was decommissioned. It's the Greenbriar Bunker. And
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this is a pretty interesting story. Oh yeah. So back
in nine Uncle Sam told the people building this Greenbrier Hotel.
They said, okay, will build a new luxury addition to
your hotel. Uh, and we'll pay for it. The government
will pay for it. All we ask in exchange. The
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one little string attached is that we also want to
build a one hundred and twenty thousand square foot bunker
under it. And this the green buyers in Virginia, right.
So it's um, it's like a day trip distance outside
of d C. And Washington's well to do. Already went
down there to you know, hang out and I guess, um,
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cheat at backgammon and talk about the poor or something. Well,
and it's it's it's a great idea because now if
anything goes down, all they have to do is literally
go down a couple of feet couplet, still drunk, probably
still drunk, and now in charge of nuclear weapons. I
hope that I am kidding. So the name of this
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while they were building it was Project Greek Island, and
it had fifty three rooms square foot kitchen, uh, two
months of food, eighteen dormitories which could sleep sixty people.
Now when they say dormitories, that lets you know that
they're talking about bringing the staffers. Uh maybe maybe not
everybody gets their own room. Uh. Clinic of course, intensive
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care and O r UM and the idea and stuff
that they needed to communicate with the outside world. So
of course this is something. Although we are we are
having a sense of humor, these kind of things are important.
Um because if d C was to receive a d
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C was to be destroyed, then the the government of
the US would need to have outside places to meet.
And if they can't all make it to Cheyenne, they
can't make it to Raven Rock. Uh. This might be
the easiest place to go to ground as long as
no one knows about it. Whoops, whoops. Well, and that's
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not our fault. This is a public information, so good
just google it, you'll find out. Yeah. And the reason
we're saying that it's there's a fun fact there. It
was a secret until yep. And that's when Ted Gup
exposed it. Uh. And it was immediately decommissioned once it
was exposed, because you can't have people knowing about your
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secret plans. That's just not how it works. And so
the the problem here is that it means that although
Ted Gope, he was writing for the Washington Post, he
made a really good um, he made a really good
story about it was some sharp journalism. But it also
it also let the cat out of the bag or
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the demons out of Pandora's box, because we know that
if one of these existed and was immediately decommissioned, then
it is it is actually implausible to assume. It's unwise
to assume that there's not another secret facility out there
now or five or five, yeah, or the better in
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this kind of situation, I would think that's a really
good point. Um. One last thing I thought you would
really enjoy about this man, especially so while it was
still secret up before you know. Two. Uh, the center,
the bunk itself was maintained by these government workers who
pretended to be Hotel a V guys. Wow. So they
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said they were part of a company called Forsyth Associates
based in Arlington, and their purpose, their cover story was
that they were in charge of the televisions. So great job.
I mean, it's just gonna give him some props just
for making that happen. So another place that not much
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is actually known about this place, but what is known
is important here. So it's called the Shanghai Complex. And
in two thousand and six, the Shanghai Morning Post announced
the completion of this million square foot bunker that was
capable of housing up to two people. And it's the
are just capacity for a bunker that we've ever heard
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about at least and UM. And the shelter was designed
to withstand UM all kinds of blast, nuclear radiation, poisonous
gas emissions, pretty much anything you can throw at it.
I'm not sure about a bunker buster. But who's to say?
Who is to say? We know that UM. A lot
of the information that you and I have comes actually
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from the Shanghai Morning Post. If this is true, this
would be one of the largest publicly UM acknowledge, Yeah,
publicly acknowledged or open secret places that we know of
UM connected to ground level rail UM. It's also filled
with residential buildings, power storage facilities, commercial buildings. It could
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have a it could have as much of as a
two weeks supply of necessities for two or a thousand people. However,
I don't know how much of that number holds up because, uh,
you know, let's be honest, construction companies in China have
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a very poor reputation when it comes to UM quality
of build just because there have been highly publicized cases
of corruption. Now, maybe maybe that's not true in this case.
Maybe it is uh consortium of government agencies that are
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looking out for each other. They have oversight and they're
not corrupt. But I don't know if that is necessarily
the place you would want to be. If Shanghai was
bombed or if there was you know, social instability due
to a riot or something, then maybe it would be
a good place to be, but not for a very
long time. This is not your fallout three starting point.
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And just to be fair, corruption with regards to government contracts,
I would say is a worldwide issue that perhaps not
just China is absolutely fair, is fair. But I think
the thing with the Shanghai Complex is that people are
are also unclear about who actually owns it? Interesting? Is it?
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Is it quasi public? Is it quasi private? What? What's
the deal? Uh, let's ask somebody, Let's ask him. I
let's ask you listeners. Let us know if you know
about because we do have some listeners in China. Let
us know what you think about the Shanghai Complex. Is
it exaggerated? Is there more to the story. And while
you're working on that email, let's talk about one of
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my favorite things, the Moscow Metro. Oh man, dude, if
you've ever played If you have not, you should play
Metro three or Metro Last Light. Both of those are
fantastic video game titles if you're into video games. I'm
not getting paid to say that I've played both of
them and I loved them because it's centered around this
massive just set of rail underground railways, and there are
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so many different structures and complexes underground that make up
this this massive network. It's so cool, man. Yeah, this
stuff is based in real life too, because there's apparently
an underground city referred to as forty three by the
the general public of Moscow or a monkey forty three
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r A N E n K I just because my
Russian pronunciation is probably pretty bad. Uh So, if you
go back during the Cold War, uh, Stalin had a
quite a few of these underground transportation networks built to
allow speedy departure from Moscow and to allow unmonitored transit
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if possible. Well, yeah, and you could also move troops
if you had to call out letting anybody else know,
which is pretty awesome. Uh It's it's crazy, doesn't it.
It supposedly holds something like fifteen thousand people. Is that
is that? That's what I read that's crazy, and and
it was in for the long haul to right. Yeah,
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you could just exist down there. I wonder how I
wonder how easy it is to Oh man, I'm sorry,
I'm going off an attention, but I just always think
about how difficult or easy it is to get food
and supplies into the system. And if there's one place,
and maybe there are multiple places where you can send
the supplies, and I'm assuming that you would have to
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set it up that way, and all of these things well,
I and I think one of the most difficult things
for building an underground bunker is food. Now is not
as much of a challenge because food science has progressed,
uh leaps and bounds. I mean like with hydroponic or
you could grow your own food if you need to,
you can you can store food in a in a
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dry or preserve for a very long time. You could
potentially grow food underground. Then that makes your main concern
a source of continual power um and then air could
be tough. There's a really great Ted talk that I
remember seeing about the amount and type of plants that
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you would need in a room to support one person
so that the person's exhalations would nourish the plants, and
the plants would emit enough oxygen makes for the person
to live, So it is possible. But then we'd have
to start thinking about you know, we don't know very
much about how humans adapt to life underground, and we
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still that would have some serious questions about how long
we could grow a plant underground, although I'm sure there's
like a pot farmer or an opium farmer somewhere who
knows exactly how long you can do That sounds bring them, yeah,
and hey, man, we're not gonna be We're not gonna
tell on you if you write to us. UM. All right,
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so we know that these things are real, We know
that they actually happened. The stuff about Moscow's metro is
still very scant, at least in English sources. UM. A
lot of the knowledge that the West has about it
came out as a result of reading d O D
or Department of Defense manuals. However, we do know that
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North Korea most likely has UM something like this as well,
probably not to this extent, but at least enough to
protect the leadership. There's really interesting UM statement made by
a guy called Lloyd Dousha d U s H a
U S who was the Deputy Director of Engineering Construction
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for the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers. So he
was talking an engineering conference and uh he had this,
Uh he had this interesting statement. Okay, do you want
to read it? You want me? Okay, there we go.
After World War Two, political and economic factors changed the
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underground construction picture and caused renewed interest to think underground.
As a result of this interest, the Corp of Engineers
became involved in the design and construction of some very
complex and interesting military projects. Although the conference program indicates
the topic to be underground facilities for Defense experience and lessons,
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I must deviate a little because several of the most
interesting facilities that have been designed and constructed by the
Core of Engineers are classified dumb, dumb, dumb. That's awesome,
and it makes and it makes sense because you can't
you know, these kind of things lose their value when
they are known. And now it's time for one of
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the parts of the program that you and I are
very much leaking forward to, and that is talking about
alleged underground basis and a certain man named Bill Schneider.
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what's up with Phil Schneider? Oh well, well, he's a
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fascinating gentleman, somebody that you can go down a rabbit
hole reading about him and watching his hour long talks
on the internet. If you haven't done so, I'd recommend
at least checking out one. Oh I do have a
good I do have a quotation. Okay, you want to
hear it. Yes, the New World Order and the alien
agenda is one and the same. It is world takeover
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of the population of the planet. There are nine races
of alien populations. They get high off our adrenal gland substances.
It's something like cocaine to them. Well, so, according to
Phil Schneider, we are the coke habit where the coke
habit of alien species? Uh yeah, according to Phil Schnair.
(24:54):
But that's just one of some misclaims. Phil Schneider was
geologist self geologists explosives expert. Um. He believed that the
government had made hundreds of deep underground facilities and that
he had worked on thirteen um. He said that these
human these aliens called the grays, gray humanoid extraterrestrials. One
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of those nine races works side by side with the US.
He claimed that he survived a shootout in seventy nine, right, um,
where he got shot in the stomach and his part
a couple of his fingers were blown off by a
weapon attached to one of the aliens. Um. Also that
sixties six, Um did he says Secret Service or or
(25:42):
Delta Force. I remember he retired to some kind of
high level military capacity. But he said sixty six of
them perished in this battle. Um. I mean, it's it's
pretty it's pretty crazy. The idea was that they were descending,
they drilled holes to create a new base, right, and
when they descended down into one, when he in particular
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descended down, he encountered these things and they got in
a fight, and he ended up shooting one or two
of them, or at least according to the film. Well,
speaking of his claims, let's see, to some people he
was um eccentric or like the worst of people had
accused him of being a self aware con man of sorts,
(26:24):
you know, and then other people have said that he
was a whistleblower. And we'll get to some of that stuff.
Towards the end of this. But matt I was thinking,
right now, we could we could do maybe a laundry
list of some of his claims that he made. All right,
So we said, he said specifically that there are a
hundred and twenty nine or something like that secret military
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bases or bunkers operating off a black budget, unsupervised by
the US Congress, and it's going on since nineteen forties.
He claimed that he had attended a secret UN meeting
and several of these in fact, regarding this information about
aliens and secret bunkers and stuff like that. Yeah, and
he hadn't just heard about aliens. He claimed that he
had interviewed them and that tall Grays were in control
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of the world. Yeah. He quit working as a geologist
due to his concerns over the status quo because he
was nervous about this whole situation with the government working
directly within alien race. And um, and he really did
believe that aliens were part of this new world order. Yeah.
And where are you also uh telling me that he
said there was a treaty involved or something. Yes, Um,
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the well, he says that the American government concluded by
signing a treaty with the Gray aliens in nineteen fifty four,
and that it was kind of a mute mutual cooperation
thing that they called the Granada Treaty. He also said
that the space program had been producing uh these unique
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or special alloys in orbit and that you needed a
vacuum to create these medals, and and that that that's
the ultimate reason that the I S S was up
there for so long, the International Space Station. That would
be fascinating if it were true. I don't know how
the heck you could ever confirm that. UM. He believed
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that much of our stealth aircraft technology was actually developed
by back engineering some of these cashed alien craft. Oh yeah,
reverse engineering, just like UM, just like Pakistan and China
are probably already have done with that stealth helicopter that
crashed the drone or was shot down. Yeah, and the
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drone to UM will add Iran to that list. Uh.
He also and he wasn't the first person to mcdaily
and craft plane. He also believed that AIDS was a
population controlled virus invented in Chicago, Illinois, And also, unbeknownst
to just about everybody, he believed that the U. S.
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Government has an earthquake device. You've heard us mentioned that
before in our Tesla episode and can humans make earthquakes? UM,
and he believed it was true, and neither the Kobe
earthquake nor the eight the n San Francisco quake had
an actual pulse wave. Not being a seismologist, I can't
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speak to a lot of that, but we do know UM.
One thing we can say is that there are numerous
theories about HIV. UM. One of the books that we
read about it was a book called The River and
in that the author of that UM I can't remember
the name Stunt Dennis Hopper, that's an actor, but it's UM.
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But the author of that alleges that UM HIV essentially
was made by accident because a pharmaceutical company was trying
to cut corners and use monkeys samples or some ape
samples maybe as chimpanzee or something uh two as a
culture to grow a vaccine, and that this UM, this
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corner cutting ultimately led to injecting people with what would
become AIDS or with HIV. That's a freaky proposition. That's
a freaky proposition we talked about in an earlier, earlier episode.
But Phil Schneider does not subscribe to that, and and
he maintained that he had personally seen a lot of
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this stuff. He also had some stuff to say about
the World Trade Center and the Oklahoma City bombing, Right, Yeah,
he thought they were there were those bombs or those
explosions were caused by small nuclear devices. He was pointing
to the melting in, the pitting of the concrete and
kind of how the extrusion of metal supporting the supporting rods,
and how these were indicators for it being a small
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nuclear explosion rather than I guess, ted Kaczynski, Well, yeah,
rather than that. And and again Schneider claimed that his
kind of his thing was explosives and his specialty. Yeah,
that's why he was involved in the creating these deep
underground bases, because you drilled the holes and then you
basically blow out all the rocks. Yeah, and there are
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geologists who specialized in that. Um, there's something else. I
guess now we've gone. We kind of did a quick
and dirty ten claims of his. But now it's time
to say that the reason we're speaking about him in
past tenses because unfortunately January seventeenth, nineteen ninety six, which
I know I made a typo and uh an oral
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typo misspoke in our video, But nineteen ninety six not
sixty six. U Phil Schneider died. It was reported as
a suicide, but not everybody agrees. When they found him,
he had a catheter wrapped really tightly around his neck
and it was weird. He was faced down in his wheelchair.
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He used a wheelchair. Um, yeah, I don't know. It's
really disturbing, and you can find images of it. I
wouldn't recommend looking for them, but you can find them.
Some people say that it was piano wire. The story
differs a little bit sometimes, but he definitely appeared to
have something around his neck and the wife found this out.
(32:07):
His wife found this out when she um requested to
view the body and apparently she saw some bruising on
the neck. And of course, uh Phil Schneider told his
friends that if he ever had been if they ever
heard he had committed suicide, that he had been murdered instead. Well, yeah,
he had. He had a bunch of friends. So that
(32:28):
allegedly died via murder, Yeah, as a suicide by murder. Um,
And we actually included a clip of that and in
the Deep Underground episode just to kind of pay homage
to the guy because he's fascinating and and we can
all say, you know, whatever we want about the guy,
but we can't ever talk to him to prove or
(32:48):
disprove any of this stuff. Um. And again, I've sat
and watched so many of his talks, and it's tough
for us with this kind of thing because we we
again just our inability to prove any of the stuff. UM. Right,
I don't want to just you know, disparage the guy's name.
At the same time, these are pretty outrageous claims and
(33:10):
there wasn't a lot of proof that he presented. This
is why, Yeah, I'm glad you said this. This is
why he remains so controversial in the world of UFO
enthusiast Stephen Um. UFO enthusiasts have even accused him of
discrediting not maybe not purposefully, but they've said that he
is discrediting the pursuit because of his claims. And the
(33:36):
problem is that right now, right now, unless listeners, unless
you send us something, there is no proof of UM
what he has said that is not UM someone claiming
to be a witness, you know what I mean. There's
no like tangible evidence of a special alloy made in space.
(33:58):
There's no tan dor bowl evidence of the you know,
an alien corpse or alien uh technology and less of course, Um,
you do believe his claim that stealth technology in particular
came from extraterrestrials. But the problem here is um problem
(34:19):
here is the proof and keeping it with underground basis?
Is he correct that there are a lot of underground
basis that people have no idea exists? Absolutely? Um. You
remember when the folks at the Denver Airport responded to
us on Twitter. Um, I wrote to them and said
that we'd love to take a tour. Um, but I
(34:41):
don't think they'll fly us out. I think we would
have to be there and then ask them. Um, but
what if they would? I wonder if they let us
do it. I'd be interested, definitely, definitely. Would you want
to see that? Listeners? If we could find a way
to get out to the Denver Airport and take a
tour and then see how deep it goes. I've seen
(35:02):
some of the videos you probably have to where they
show you some of the underground parts. Should they use
for transportation of luggage and like the automated baggage system,
which I think is mothballed now. Really it was costing
a million a year or something to keep it, just
to maintain it. Isn't that convenient that they would mothball
(35:22):
that part, the underground part. Yes, it isn't convenient. Was
it the CIA or the FBI who relocated a headquarters
over to Colorado? Um Cannabis? Did it relocated its main
headquarters in Colorado? The primary headquarters of Canada of cannabis.
I wonder where that would be. Would it be UM,
would be like in Amsterdam, or would it be you know,
(35:45):
I don't know California as of As of right now,
it's probably considered Colorado. Yeah, it's got free reign over there.
It's like the Prince of Colorado. Oh man, it's the
new cash crop. Probably that's who we're hearing. But we'd
also like to ask you guys out there to let
us know if you think you live next to an
(36:06):
unacknowledged secret bunker. The Greenbrier story really got us thinking
how many out of the way resorts might actually have
some sort of second purpose. You know, it's it's a
fair question, and this is this is not like UM,
this is not like something that would be difficult to
(36:30):
prove because it's just a matter of knowing where to look. Right.
If if we have one journalist as recently as ninety
two be able to say that, you know, be able
to find an underground base, a real life secret underground base,
then then they've got to have more than we think
there are. It makes me want to just tour the
(36:51):
country and go to the furtherest out resorts that I
can find, and maybe get Discovery to pay for it,
and then we can make a can make a whole
show ben where we just go to resorts and try
and find bunkers beneath them. We'll find a lot of basements,
well or maybe more I will try to find a
(37:12):
lot of bars, right, Um, Okay, So that's those are
the questions that we would like to ask. And let's
see that's all I got, Matt. Do you have anything else? Yeah?
I don't really have any further reading here besides going
out and checking out fill Schneider's lectures there there. They're interesting.
I recommend putting it on and treating it like a
(37:34):
podcast like this an audio podcast, and maybe do something else,
but listen to it and tell us what tell us
what you think about these claims, and tell us what
you think about military bases in general, because one thing
that I'm still a little bit steamed about is that
we found so much stuff about very mysterious bases that
(37:57):
we didn't put in the show because they happened not
to be underground. Out what's going on at Diego Garcia,
what's going on at Ful Air Force Base. Here's some
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welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and
I'm then and we will introduce ourselves every single episode
(00:23):
and you're gonna like it. By the way, this is
stuff they don't want you to know. That's the show name.
Hey man, nice, you're a rare form today. Yeah. Yeah,
had kind of a long, long morning. Let's yeah, long morning.
What what was going on just before we get to
the actual show. Well, you know I have two dogs, right, yeah, listeners,
(00:43):
I have two dogs. U one of them, well, I
can't say it any other way. It pooped right next
to my computer this morning. Oh Mandy, No, it wasn't Buddy.
It was Penny. Oh yeah, the young one. She just
doesn't know. Um, I guess where her poop goes. I thought,
I thought I taught her. But better next to the
(01:05):
computer than on the computer. Yes, if she was able
to poop somehow on top of that huge uh tower,
or perhaps inside of it, we would have a serious issue, angry,
I pressed though. Oh yeah, oh man, it would be
like eating the whole wheel of cheese, you know, right? Yeah? Hey, um,
does I wanted to ask you, does Penny dig Is
(01:26):
she a digger? She's a massive digger. She usually can't
get too far down. I haven't discovered anything notorious, nefarious,
nefarious or notorious. I guess for it to be notorious,
it does have to be known precisely. Sorry about that,
uh them. The reason I ask, of course, is because
(01:48):
you know who else is really into digging ants? Ants? Yeah,
and not that checklist Slovakian cult we talked about. But
I'm talking about every government in the world pretty much
is I'm trying to say a pun, but every government
in the world, I give up, is digging deeper into
(02:13):
underground military basis. And that's what we're talking about today,
Deep underground military base or d u MB for those
in the know. Matt first question goes to you, are
these real? Absolutely? They are real? Yes. Uh. It's really
difficult to prove a couple of things, mostly how many
(02:33):
of these things there are. However, we we can confirm
right here on this show. Yes they are real, and
you probably know several of them. We're gonna talk about
some of those and then we're gonna get to the
ones that maybe you don't know about. Yeah, and along
the way, we're also going to respond to your requests
both on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter and probably a couple
(02:55):
of other things. Um to look at some of the
claims of Phil Schneider. Absolutely yes, I'm also going to
pronounce dull say correctly yes and Okay. Now I can't
decide if it's truly dual, say as in sweet the
Spanish word sweet or and I've heard both from our
(03:17):
listeners and from what I can find, I'm not sure.
Well people are writing into correct this will will contact
a local resident. Yeah, but then they might say I
say it both ways. So we know that military bases
are um are very old concept, of course, but we
(03:38):
also know that bunkers are very old concept. They predate
most nation states in the world today, just because going
back to when human beings were just trying to build
permanent shelters and underground area makes a lot of sense.
It's easy, you can fortify it. Temperatures are more can
(04:00):
rolled there absolutely well, and yeah, and especially if you
get into a war scenario and there are bombs being
dropped on top of your head. The further you are
into the ground, the better at least in theory. Right. Yeah,
and now we still apply that same theory, and now
we know that after thousands of years of continual human civilization,
(04:21):
we have a world that is littered with basses that
have been abandoned or repurposed and in some cases forgotten entirely.
And maybe we shouldn't say basis, we should say underground structures. Yeah. So, uh,
let's see if we're gonna talk. You had a really
good idea. Let's talk about some that we do know
that are proven, that are in some in some way
(04:45):
or another unclassified. Okay, well, let's talk about one that
we mentioned in our video. If you haven't watched it,
please check that out. Raven Rock. Now, this is pretty cool.
This is um this is something that began, at least
construction began in the nineteen fifties. Um Harrius Harris Truman
actually approved this site and it was kind of it
was meant to be a relocation site for Pentagon staff
(05:07):
in case of an emergency, in case you have to
continue the functions continuity of government. Absolutely, this is crazy. Ben.
Over one and a half million yards of granite rock
were just blasted just destroyed in order to create this thing. Um,
and and they did it in something like ten months,
a fairly short period of time to create something this huge. Wow.
(05:29):
I guess that's what happens when you when the federal
government really does want something done. Oh uh, yeah, we
know that there were also five three story buildings originally
built in this And what did they get when they
moved out one point five million cubic yards of granite rock?
They got seven hundred thousand square feet of usable space.
(05:51):
And this isn't like, this is not just some empty warehouse,
you know, with like a toilet in the corner. This
is this is a pretty high end thing. It's got
um an underground several underground reservoirs, you're drinking water so
you don't get mutant water in a nuclear event, high
(06:11):
tech ventilation system, a fire department, a dentist uh clinic.
Of course, they have dining facility, a post office because um,
apparently you gotta send mail out in that emergency situation.
You gotta find a way to communicate with everybody, and
snail mail is still I guess the optimum thing. Yeah,
if the postman has taught us anything, Oh, Kevin Costner.
(06:35):
Hey they do you know they also have a chapel there, No,
that makes sense, yeah, dude, And a barbershop because you
gotta look clean, you know what I mean? So fresh? Yeah,
and so clean. Uh, fitness center and one that surprised
us the most, or surprised me the most, Starbucks. Yeah,
it's it's long hours making an underground base run, so right,
(06:57):
which lets us know that the Raven Rock Mountain complex,
I'm gonna say, is it's not that classified if you
have a if you have a Starbucks. Now granted, uh,
there was for a very long time. There may still
be a subway in the pentagon Um, which I think
I heard this and never confirmed it the dubious distinction
(07:19):
of being the only subway in the world that required
a security clearance, so you have to get vetted. Can
you imagine working applying for a job there and they're
digging through your elementary school records and those poor nineteen
year old kids with acne. I mean, yeah, I've been there. Now,
you can't be a nineteen year old over the past
(07:40):
and much artists over there don't find out. But that's
not the only mountain complex that exists that there's also
the Cheyenne Mountain Complex. And this is something that you've
probably seen in movies or comics or just you've probably
seen this thing all over the place. It's located really
close to color out of Springs in Colorado, obviously, and
(08:03):
it's situated pretty deep in two thousand feet of granite.
And this facility was designed to withstand a five megaton
nuclear explosion from to one point seven miles away. And
because we're talking about nuclear explosions, we're measuring in terms
of proximity, So if it was one point six miles away,
(08:24):
they'd be in a little bit of trouble. So what
they're saying, right is you could detonate a bomb a
little under two miles away, and it's and it's pretty
far out of the way, so you'd have to target
it pretty closely. Yeah, yeah, in Colorado Springs. There. Um,
there's a there's a third one that we wanted to
talk about, which was decommissioned. It's the Greenbriar Bunker. And
(08:45):
this is a pretty interesting story. Oh yeah. So back
in nine Uncle Sam told the people building this Greenbrier Hotel.
They said, okay, will build a new luxury addition to
your hotel. Uh, and we'll pay for it. The government
will pay for it. All we ask in exchange. The
(09:05):
one little string attached is that we also want to
build a one hundred and twenty thousand square foot bunker
under it. And this the green buyers in Virginia, right.
So it's um, it's like a day trip distance outside
of d C. And Washington's well to do. Already went
down there to you know, hang out and I guess, um,
(09:26):
cheat at backgammon and talk about the poor or something. Well,
and it's it's it's a great idea because now if
anything goes down, all they have to do is literally
go down a couple of feet couplet, still drunk, probably
still drunk, and now in charge of nuclear weapons. I
hope that I am kidding. So the name of this
(09:48):
while they were building it was Project Greek Island, and
it had fifty three rooms square foot kitchen, uh, two
months of food, eighteen dormitories which could sleep sixty people.
Now when they say dormitories, that lets you know that
they're talking about bringing the staffers. Uh maybe maybe not
everybody gets their own room. Uh. Clinic of course, intensive
(10:11):
care and O r UM and the idea and stuff
that they needed to communicate with the outside world. So
of course this is something. Although we are we are
having a sense of humor, these kind of things are important.
Um because if d C was to receive a d
(10:31):
C was to be destroyed, then the the government of
the US would need to have outside places to meet.
And if they can't all make it to Cheyenne, they
can't make it to Raven Rock. Uh. This might be
the easiest place to go to ground as long as
no one knows about it. Whoops, whoops. Well, and that's
(10:53):
not our fault. This is a public information, so good
just google it, you'll find out. Yeah. And the reason
we're saying that it's there's a fun fact there. It
was a secret until yep. And that's when Ted Gup
exposed it. Uh. And it was immediately decommissioned once it
was exposed, because you can't have people knowing about your
(11:14):
secret plans. That's just not how it works. And so
the the problem here is that it means that although
Ted Gope, he was writing for the Washington Post, he
made a really good um, he made a really good
story about it was some sharp journalism. But it also
it also let the cat out of the bag or
(11:36):
the demons out of Pandora's box, because we know that
if one of these existed and was immediately decommissioned, then
it is it is actually implausible to assume. It's unwise
to assume that there's not another secret facility out there
now or five or five, yeah, or the better in
(11:58):
this kind of situation, I would think that's a really
good point. Um. One last thing I thought you would
really enjoy about this man, especially so while it was
still secret up before you know. Two. Uh, the center,
the bunk itself was maintained by these government workers who
pretended to be Hotel a V guys. Wow. So they
(12:20):
said they were part of a company called Forsyth Associates
based in Arlington, and their purpose, their cover story was
that they were in charge of the televisions. So great job.
I mean, it's just gonna give him some props just
for making that happen. So another place that not much
(12:42):
is actually known about this place, but what is known
is important here. So it's called the Shanghai Complex. And
in two thousand and six, the Shanghai Morning Post announced
the completion of this million square foot bunker that was
capable of housing up to two people. And it's the
are just capacity for a bunker that we've ever heard
(13:03):
about at least and UM. And the shelter was designed
to withstand UM all kinds of blast, nuclear radiation, poisonous
gas emissions, pretty much anything you can throw at it.
I'm not sure about a bunker buster. But who's to say?
Who is to say? We know that UM. A lot
of the information that you and I have comes actually
(13:24):
from the Shanghai Morning Post. If this is true, this
would be one of the largest publicly UM acknowledge, Yeah,
publicly acknowledged or open secret places that we know of
UM connected to ground level rail UM. It's also filled
with residential buildings, power storage facilities, commercial buildings. It could
(13:51):
have a it could have as much of as a
two weeks supply of necessities for two or a thousand people. However,
I don't know how much of that number holds up because, uh,
you know, let's be honest, construction companies in China have
(14:13):
a very poor reputation when it comes to UM quality
of build just because there have been highly publicized cases
of corruption. Now, maybe maybe that's not true in this case.
Maybe it is uh consortium of government agencies that are
(14:33):
looking out for each other. They have oversight and they're
not corrupt. But I don't know if that is necessarily
the place you would want to be. If Shanghai was
bombed or if there was you know, social instability due
to a riot or something, then maybe it would be
a good place to be, but not for a very
long time. This is not your fallout three starting point.
(14:55):
And just to be fair, corruption with regards to government contracts,
I would say is a worldwide issue that perhaps not
just China is absolutely fair, is fair. But I think
the thing with the Shanghai Complex is that people are
are also unclear about who actually owns it? Interesting? Is it?
(15:17):
Is it quasi public? Is it quasi private? What? What's
the deal? Uh, let's ask somebody, Let's ask him. I
let's ask you listeners. Let us know if you know
about because we do have some listeners in China. Let
us know what you think about the Shanghai Complex. Is
it exaggerated? Is there more to the story. And while
you're working on that email, let's talk about one of
(15:39):
my favorite things, the Moscow Metro. Oh man, dude, if
you've ever played If you have not, you should play
Metro three or Metro Last Light. Both of those are
fantastic video game titles if you're into video games. I'm
not getting paid to say that I've played both of
them and I loved them because it's centered around this
massive just set of rail underground railways, and there are
(16:03):
so many different structures and complexes underground that make up
this this massive network. It's so cool, man. Yeah, this
stuff is based in real life too, because there's apparently
an underground city referred to as forty three by the
the general public of Moscow or a monkey forty three
(16:27):
r A N E n K I just because my
Russian pronunciation is probably pretty bad. Uh So, if you
go back during the Cold War, uh, Stalin had a
quite a few of these underground transportation networks built to
allow speedy departure from Moscow and to allow unmonitored transit
(16:52):
if possible. Well, yeah, and you could also move troops
if you had to call out letting anybody else know,
which is pretty awesome. Uh It's it's crazy, doesn't it.
It supposedly holds something like fifteen thousand people. Is that
is that? That's what I read that's crazy, and and
it was in for the long haul to right. Yeah,
(17:12):
you could just exist down there. I wonder how I
wonder how easy it is to Oh man, I'm sorry,
I'm going off an attention, but I just always think
about how difficult or easy it is to get food
and supplies into the system. And if there's one place,
and maybe there are multiple places where you can send
the supplies, and I'm assuming that you would have to
(17:32):
set it up that way, and all of these things well,
I and I think one of the most difficult things
for building an underground bunker is food. Now is not
as much of a challenge because food science has progressed,
uh leaps and bounds. I mean like with hydroponic or
you could grow your own food if you need to,
you can you can store food in a in a
(17:54):
dry or preserve for a very long time. You could
potentially grow food underground. Then that makes your main concern
a source of continual power um and then air could
be tough. There's a really great Ted talk that I
remember seeing about the amount and type of plants that
(18:15):
you would need in a room to support one person
so that the person's exhalations would nourish the plants, and
the plants would emit enough oxygen makes for the person
to live, So it is possible. But then we'd have
to start thinking about you know, we don't know very
much about how humans adapt to life underground, and we
(18:37):
still that would have some serious questions about how long
we could grow a plant underground, although I'm sure there's
like a pot farmer or an opium farmer somewhere who
knows exactly how long you can do That sounds bring them, yeah,
and hey, man, we're not gonna be We're not gonna
tell on you if you write to us. UM. All right,
(18:57):
so we know that these things are real, We know
that they actually happened. The stuff about Moscow's metro is
still very scant, at least in English sources. UM. A
lot of the knowledge that the West has about it
came out as a result of reading d O D
or Department of Defense manuals. However, we do know that
(19:19):
North Korea most likely has UM something like this as well,
probably not to this extent, but at least enough to
protect the leadership. There's really interesting UM statement made by
a guy called Lloyd Dousha d U s H a
U S who was the Deputy Director of Engineering Construction
(19:43):
for the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers. So he
was talking an engineering conference and uh he had this,
Uh he had this interesting statement. Okay, do you want
to read it? You want me? Okay, there we go.
After World War Two, political and economic factors changed the
(20:04):
underground construction picture and caused renewed interest to think underground.
As a result of this interest, the Corp of Engineers
became involved in the design and construction of some very
complex and interesting military projects. Although the conference program indicates
the topic to be underground facilities for Defense experience and lessons,
(20:25):
I must deviate a little because several of the most
interesting facilities that have been designed and constructed by the
Core of Engineers are classified dumb, dumb, dumb. That's awesome,
and it makes and it makes sense because you can't
you know, these kind of things lose their value when
they are known. And now it's time for one of
(20:48):
the parts of the program that you and I are
very much leaking forward to, and that is talking about
alleged underground basis and a certain man named Bill Schneider.
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what's up with Phil Schneider? Oh well, well, he's a
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fascinating gentleman, somebody that you can go down a rabbit
hole reading about him and watching his hour long talks
on the internet. If you haven't done so, I'd recommend
at least checking out one. Oh I do have a
good I do have a quotation. Okay, you want to
hear it. Yes, the New World Order and the alien
agenda is one and the same. It is world takeover
(24:32):
of the population of the planet. There are nine races
of alien populations. They get high off our adrenal gland substances.
It's something like cocaine to them. Well, so, according to
Phil Schneider, we are the coke habit where the coke
habit of alien species? Uh yeah, according to Phil Schnair.
(24:54):
But that's just one of some misclaims. Phil Schneider was
geologist self geologists explosives expert. Um. He believed that the
government had made hundreds of deep underground facilities and that
he had worked on thirteen um. He said that these
human these aliens called the grays, gray humanoid extraterrestrials. One
(25:17):
of those nine races works side by side with the US.
He claimed that he survived a shootout in seventy nine, right, um,
where he got shot in the stomach and his part
a couple of his fingers were blown off by a
weapon attached to one of the aliens. Um. Also that
sixties six, Um did he says Secret Service or or
(25:42):
Delta Force. I remember he retired to some kind of
high level military capacity. But he said sixty six of
them perished in this battle. Um. I mean, it's it's
pretty it's pretty crazy. The idea was that they were descending,
they drilled holes to create a new base, right, and
when they descended down into one, when he in particular
(26:03):
descended down, he encountered these things and they got in
a fight, and he ended up shooting one or two
of them, or at least according to the film. Well,
speaking of his claims, let's see, to some people he
was um eccentric or like the worst of people had
accused him of being a self aware con man of sorts,
(26:24):
you know, and then other people have said that he
was a whistleblower. And we'll get to some of that stuff.
Towards the end of this. But matt I was thinking,
right now, we could we could do maybe a laundry
list of some of his claims that he made. All right,
So we said, he said specifically that there are a
hundred and twenty nine or something like that secret military
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bases or bunkers operating off a black budget, unsupervised by
the US Congress, and it's going on since nineteen forties.
He claimed that he had attended a secret UN meeting
and several of these in fact, regarding this information about
aliens and secret bunkers and stuff like that. Yeah, and
he hadn't just heard about aliens. He claimed that he
had interviewed them and that tall Grays were in control
(27:10):
of the world. Yeah. He quit working as a geologist
due to his concerns over the status quo because he
was nervous about this whole situation with the government working
directly within alien race. And um, and he really did
believe that aliens were part of this new world order. Yeah.
And where are you also uh telling me that he
said there was a treaty involved or something. Yes, Um,
(27:33):
the well, he says that the American government concluded by
signing a treaty with the Gray aliens in nineteen fifty four,
and that it was kind of a mute mutual cooperation
thing that they called the Granada Treaty. He also said
that the space program had been producing uh these unique
(27:53):
or special alloys in orbit and that you needed a
vacuum to create these medals, and and that that that's
the ultimate reason that the I S S was up
there for so long, the International Space Station. That would
be fascinating if it were true. I don't know how
the heck you could ever confirm that. UM. He believed
(28:14):
that much of our stealth aircraft technology was actually developed
by back engineering some of these cashed alien craft. Oh yeah,
reverse engineering, just like UM, just like Pakistan and China
are probably already have done with that stealth helicopter that
crashed the drone or was shot down. Yeah, and the
(28:35):
drone to UM will add Iran to that list. Uh.
He also and he wasn't the first person to mcdaily
and craft plane. He also believed that AIDS was a
population controlled virus invented in Chicago, Illinois, And also, unbeknownst
to just about everybody, he believed that the U. S.
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Government has an earthquake device. You've heard us mentioned that
before in our Tesla episode and can humans make earthquakes? UM,
and he believed it was true, and neither the Kobe
earthquake nor the eight the n San Francisco quake had
an actual pulse wave. Not being a seismologist, I can't
(29:16):
speak to a lot of that, but we do know UM.
One thing we can say is that there are numerous
theories about HIV. UM. One of the books that we
read about it was a book called The River and
in that the author of that UM I can't remember
the name Stunt Dennis Hopper, that's an actor, but it's UM.
(29:36):
But the author of that alleges that UM HIV essentially
was made by accident because a pharmaceutical company was trying
to cut corners and use monkeys samples or some ape
samples maybe as chimpanzee or something uh two as a
culture to grow a vaccine, and that this UM, this
(29:57):
corner cutting ultimately led to injecting people with what would
become AIDS or with HIV. That's a freaky proposition. That's
a freaky proposition we talked about in an earlier, earlier episode.
But Phil Schneider does not subscribe to that, and and
he maintained that he had personally seen a lot of
(30:18):
this stuff. He also had some stuff to say about
the World Trade Center and the Oklahoma City bombing, Right, Yeah,
he thought they were there were those bombs or those
explosions were caused by small nuclear devices. He was pointing
to the melting in, the pitting of the concrete and
kind of how the extrusion of metal supporting the supporting rods,
and how these were indicators for it being a small
(30:40):
nuclear explosion rather than I guess, ted Kaczynski, Well, yeah,
rather than that. And and again Schneider claimed that his
kind of his thing was explosives and his specialty. Yeah,
that's why he was involved in the creating these deep
underground bases, because you drilled the holes and then you
basically blow out all the rocks. Yeah, and there are
(31:03):
geologists who specialized in that. Um, there's something else. I
guess now we've gone. We kind of did a quick
and dirty ten claims of his. But now it's time
to say that the reason we're speaking about him in
past tenses because unfortunately January seventeenth, nineteen ninety six, which
I know I made a typo and uh an oral
(31:24):
typo misspoke in our video, But nineteen ninety six not
sixty six. U Phil Schneider died. It was reported as
a suicide, but not everybody agrees. When they found him,
he had a catheter wrapped really tightly around his neck
and it was weird. He was faced down in his wheelchair.
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He used a wheelchair. Um, yeah, I don't know. It's
really disturbing, and you can find images of it. I
wouldn't recommend looking for them, but you can find them.
Some people say that it was piano wire. The story
differs a little bit sometimes, but he definitely appeared to
have something around his neck and the wife found this out.
(32:07):
His wife found this out when she um requested to
view the body and apparently she saw some bruising on
the neck. And of course, uh Phil Schneider told his
friends that if he ever had been if they ever
heard he had committed suicide, that he had been murdered instead. Well, yeah,
he had. He had a bunch of friends. So that
(32:28):
allegedly died via murder, Yeah, as a suicide by murder. Um,
And we actually included a clip of that and in
the Deep Underground episode just to kind of pay homage
to the guy because he's fascinating and and we can
all say, you know, whatever we want about the guy,
but we can't ever talk to him to prove or
(32:48):
disprove any of this stuff. Um. And again, I've sat
and watched so many of his talks, and it's tough
for us with this kind of thing because we we
again just our inability to prove any of the stuff. UM. Right,
I don't want to just you know, disparage the guy's name.
At the same time, these are pretty outrageous claims and
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there wasn't a lot of proof that he presented. This
is why, Yeah, I'm glad you said this. This is
why he remains so controversial in the world of UFO
enthusiast Stephen Um. UFO enthusiasts have even accused him of
discrediting not maybe not purposefully, but they've said that he
is discrediting the pursuit because of his claims. And the
(33:36):
problem is that right now, right now, unless listeners, unless
you send us something, there is no proof of UM
what he has said that is not UM someone claiming
to be a witness, you know what I mean. There's
no like tangible evidence of a special alloy made in space.
(33:58):
There's no tan dor bowl evidence of the you know,
an alien corpse or alien uh technology and less of course, Um,
you do believe his claim that stealth technology in particular
came from extraterrestrials. But the problem here is um problem
(34:19):
here is the proof and keeping it with underground basis?
Is he correct that there are a lot of underground
basis that people have no idea exists? Absolutely? Um. You
remember when the folks at the Denver Airport responded to
us on Twitter. Um, I wrote to them and said
that we'd love to take a tour. Um, but I
(34:41):
don't think they'll fly us out. I think we would
have to be there and then ask them. Um, but
what if they would? I wonder if they let us
do it. I'd be interested, definitely, definitely. Would you want
to see that? Listeners? If we could find a way
to get out to the Denver Airport and take a
tour and then see how deep it goes. I've seen
(35:02):
some of the videos you probably have to where they
show you some of the underground parts. Should they use
for transportation of luggage and like the automated baggage system,
which I think is mothballed now. Really it was costing
a million a year or something to keep it, just
to maintain it. Isn't that convenient that they would mothball
(35:22):
that part, the underground part. Yes, it isn't convenient. Was
it the CIA or the FBI who relocated a headquarters
over to Colorado? Um Cannabis? Did it relocated its main
headquarters in Colorado? The primary headquarters of Canada of cannabis.
I wonder where that would be. Would it be UM,
would be like in Amsterdam, or would it be you know,
(35:45):
I don't know California as of As of right now,
it's probably considered Colorado. Yeah, it's got free reign over there.
It's like the Prince of Colorado. Oh man, it's the
new cash crop. Probably that's who we're hearing. But we'd
also like to ask you guys out there to let
us know if you think you live next to an
(36:06):
unacknowledged secret bunker. The Greenbrier story really got us thinking
how many out of the way resorts might actually have
some sort of second purpose. You know, it's it's a
fair question, and this is this is not like UM,
this is not like something that would be difficult to
(36:30):
prove because it's just a matter of knowing where to look. Right.
If if we have one journalist as recently as ninety
two be able to say that, you know, be able
to find an underground base, a real life secret underground base,
then then they've got to have more than we think
there are. It makes me want to just tour the
(36:51):
country and go to the furtherest out resorts that I
can find, and maybe get Discovery to pay for it,
and then we can make a can make a whole
show ben where we just go to resorts and try
and find bunkers beneath them. We'll find a lot of basements,
well or maybe more I will try to find a
(37:12):
lot of bars, right, Um, Okay, So that's those are
the questions that we would like to ask. And let's
see that's all I got, Matt. Do you have anything else? Yeah?
I don't really have any further reading here besides going
out and checking out fill Schneider's lectures there there. They're interesting.
I recommend putting it on and treating it like a
(37:34):
podcast like this an audio podcast, and maybe do something else,
but listen to it and tell us what tell us
what you think about these claims, and tell us what
you think about military bases in general, because one thing
that I'm still a little bit steamed about is that
we found so much stuff about very mysterious bases that
(37:57):
we didn't put in the show because they happened not
to be underground. Out what's going on at Diego Garcia,
what's going on at Ful Air Force Base. Here's some
really weird stuff out there, and we'd like to know
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