False Flag Attacks

Imagine if a government disguised its operatives as members of some other organization -- and then attacked itself. While this might sound crazy, several historians have argued that false flag attacks are more than just conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From UFOs two, Ghosts and government cover ups. History is
writtled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff that don't want you to now. Hello,
welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and
I'm then we're here with our super producer Noel Castro Brown.

(00:22):
Oh man, is that that's an upgrade? I'm like full
dictator right there. Well, you know who's already heading in
that direction. I think we can all see the trajectory.
Ritt large, isn't that right? Nold? That's smirk evil personified. So,

(00:44):
ladies and gentlemen, today we are talking about um, I
don't know, let's start with this story. How about that,
all right? Son? Or just a hypothetical situations? So like those? Okay,
So let's say super producer Noel Brown is a word
world leader, right, and she's a world leader in I

(01:04):
don't know, pick kind of government. Let's say let's say
it's democratic. Okay, he's a world leader in a democracy.
But things are not going too well in this democracy.
The economy's tanking, the population is impoverished, unhappy, crime is high,
they're threatening riots. Political opponents are increasingly averse to spending

(01:26):
especially in foreign interventions. And since you're a Western leader,
if you're Noel Brown in this situation, you can't just
make people do what you want. No, you you have
to seek guidance from your people. Right, you can't just
go out there and put an iron fist down. Right.
They are in charge of you, right, you are. You

(01:46):
are the person with three hundreds something million bosses exactly.
You know, theoretically, these people vote, and that is how
decisions have made. They if least if it's in the US,
the Republic of the U S. So this is not
the best comparison. Uh, then they have the right to
kick them out, if kick out their elected officials and

(02:07):
get some new ones. So you have to get these
people on your side. But what if circumstances change, Matt,
What if Noel Brown is the president when an attack occurs? Oh,
but all this bad stuff is happening already, it's still there.

(02:28):
But then an attack occur. I guess it depends on
who attacked you, right, Yeah, what if a common threat
brings a divided nation together supporting you, Noel Castro Brown. Uh.
You know, and and at the risk of being a
very cold person, this is Markavellian and and effective. You know,

(02:50):
it's it's a gift if this occurs. Sure, it's a
terrible thing to happen in the short term, but in
the long term for your goals. If you're that lead,
Noel Brown, then yeah, blessing in disguise, right, And you
can sit around and wait for something like this to happen,
although that would not be very wise. No, why not

(03:14):
just do it yourself? Hang on there, Matt, Are we
talking about false flag attacks? We're talking about false flag attacks.
That is the nature of a false flag attack. And uh,
we've got a quotation here that we'd like to open
up the show with. Why. Of course, the people don't

(03:35):
want war, but after all, it's the leaders of the
country who determine the policy. And it's always a simple
matter to drag the people along. Whether it's a democracy
or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship,
voice or no voice, the people can always be brought
to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All

(03:58):
you have to do is tell them they're being attacked
and denounced the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
Who said that that was Herman Goring. Herman Goring leader
in the National Socialist Party known by most people today

(04:18):
as the Nazis. This is not an unusual stance. It's
just it's just put very plainly in that quotation. But
a false flag ultimately, it's just a covert operation designed
to look as though somebody else carried it out. And
the term goes back a long time. The actual phrase,

(04:42):
at least the story goes is that this goes all
the way back to the days of sailing and and
uh seaborn empires. And if you're on the if you're
sailing the high season and you're flying a flag. Let's
say you're in territory that's not yours or the country
you're in, you fly flag of that country. Let's say

(05:02):
you're a pirate. Instead of throwing up the old black flag,
just throw up, I don't know, let's say a British
Empire flag. Right. Nobody's gonna mess with you unless they
get close enough to really like inspect your stuff, yes,
or they will let you get much closer than they should.
Uh So, this this concept can still be seen today

(05:26):
because ships often are required to fly flag even even
in this time, in this day and age. But uh,
it was much easier during that time to you know,
raise the Spanish flag, conductor raid leave change your flag
to you know, the Dutch flag or something. You could

(05:46):
be almost anonymous. Just have a whole stack of different
flags down there. And the word for studying the study
of flags is vexillology. Now that's a fun words, and
it's a weird one, isn't it. They're a real life vexillologists,
which is which is how I learned about the various
different pirate flags. It's not all skull and crossbones. It's

(06:09):
it's very strange. There are some elaborate ones, and there
are also a lot of poorly drawn skulls. I guess
the guys were in a hurry. But but you know,
when we're getting sidetracked. The thing is that ladies and
gentlemen listeners there at home, in your car, running whatever
you're doing, be aware that this is a real thing.
This is not some there's not some fluke that happens once.

(06:33):
This is not something that one guy did in you know,
ancient Rome. In fact, we have multiple examples of false
flag attacks. Yeah, just just to reiterate what you said, Ben,
It's not something that just the fringes are allowed to
talk about, right and to understand this is something a
lot of times you'll hear on the fringes of news

(06:56):
or media organizations. But it's something that I think we
can and probably should talk about more. Sure. Yeah, we
we're going to present some historic proven false flag attacks,
and then we're going to look at some of the
alleged false flag attacks, which that is more of the
the murky water for a lot of people. So the

(07:18):
first one we'd like to talk about is something we
we discussed in the video that we put out on
Wednesday of this week called the Muktin incident. And this
is when Japanese troops created an explosion on a train
track and they blamed it on China and the whole
idea of this was to justify an invasion of Manchuria

(07:42):
and um it's also known by the way, as the
Manurian incident. That makes sense, not to be confused with
the candidate no Um. And after a while this went
to a trial in the Tokyo International Military Tribunal UH
and essentially a lot several of the people the perpetrators

(08:02):
who carried out this attack admitted to what they had
done and it became public record at that point. We
also know that this kind of practice existed on both
sides of World War two Axis and allies alike. UH.
During the Nuremberg trials UH former SS major who was

(08:24):
under orders from the chief of the Gestapo, he said
that he and some others faked attacks on UH Germans
and on resource centers so that they could blame it
on Poland and justify an invasion. And then also during
the Nuremberg trials, it was found out that this guy
friends Halder, who was a general UH. He stated that

(08:48):
he UH they set fire to the German parliament building
and then also blame that on somebody else, this time
on the Communists. And speaking of the Communists, did you
know that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered his secret police
to execute over twenty thousand UH Polish army officers and

(09:10):
civilians in ninety and then blame it on the Nazis.
Jeez I remember this isn't just one side or the other.
The British government has admitted that between UM it actually
bombed ships that were attempting to take Jewish people, families

(09:31):
and people to who are trying to escape the Holocaust
or what was occurring at the time, civilians, refugees, yeah,
trying to take them to Palestine. And so again the
British government admitted that they bombed five ships carrying people
to safety, and they even set up a group called
Defenders of Arab Palestine, which was a pseudo group didn't
actually exist. Once they set that up, they had that

(09:55):
group claim responsibility for these attacks. And let's go to
Uncle Sam. The CIA openly admits it hired Iranians in
the fifties to pretend to be communists and stage bombings
in Iran in an attempt to turn the country against
its democratically elected prime minister. And of course we know
that did not work. We also know that in nineteen

(10:18):
fifty seven Dwight D. Eisenhower was working with the British
government to uh or at least they approved a plan.
Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan to carry out an attack
in Syria then blame it on the Syrian government as
a way to you know, like they do, try and
make regime change, which you know, that's nineteen fifty seven,

(10:39):
that's uh. I don't know, man. We've been learning a
lot about the U. S. Government's interactions with regime change
in the Middle East lately. Right, Yeah, not just the US.
The US is the one that is most commonly associated
with that because they've admitted to it a couple of times.
They got caught a couple of times. Maybe that's all right,
But the United States did not what the United States

(11:03):
was not the original regime changing power in Collies. Okay,
So we already talked about Operation Gladiol, which we did
a video about, and in Operation Gladiol, NATO, the North
Atlantic Treaty Organization had secret armies that would stay behind
and bomb stuff. Yeah, bomb stuff for various reasons, but

(11:28):
usually to hold back some kind of invasion from communist
or uprising. And we've seen a lot of other declassified
plans or proposals to carry out some kind of false
flag attack, Operation Northwoods being the biggest, the most famous,
the plan to attack Miami and then blame it on Cuba. Uh,

(11:49):
to justify war with Cuba. Right, and Uh, this this
is not the the first nor the last time these
sorts of things will be suggested. In nineteen sixty one,
the Joint chiefs of staff started talking about blowing up
a diplomatic building, an embus consulate excuse me, in the
Dominican Republic to justify an invasion. But these plans, fortunately,

(12:14):
we're not carried out, and we you know, we see
that that's not the only plan that was proposed. Yeah,
the idea of blaming an attack on Cuba was kind
of pervasive around that time because we really wanted to
get in there and take back over. So in sixty
three there was another plan to uh stage attacks on

(12:34):
police like Trinidad and Tobago or Jamaica and then again
blame it on Cuba. Right, And this wasn't just really
restricted to the US and Cuba. There's the famous Gulf
of Tonkin incident, and you can go to UM government
run websites who will provide a fairly thorough narrative of

(12:56):
what happened. But this reason and UM this this event
in the Gulf of Tonkin was the reason that the
United States became involved fully in the Vietnam War. But
the problem is, we didn't happen. It didn't really happen,
not the way that it was stated at the time,

(13:17):
as in something that happened. Yeah, and then it didn't. Right.
But honestly, like there were the ideas that they were
being um, the ideas that uf U S ship was
being fired upon right by North Vietnamese boats. But again
that didn't happen. And there's a question about whether this

(13:40):
was just something misread in the fog of war or
whether the National Security Agency purposefully mis old the American public. Yes,
here's just one that I find really interesting, especially with
some of the videos we've done on co intel pro
in general, and on the assassination of Martin Luther King

(14:00):
and a couple of other things. In the ninth through
the nineteen fifties and nineteen seventies, a US Congressional committee
admitted that as part of this Coentel program that we've
talked about, they actually used provocateurs during that time nineteen
fifties to nineteen seventies to carry out violent attacks, could

(14:21):
be anything really small to something maybe a little larger,
and then blame those attacks on political activists to undermine
those movements. Right. Yes, and this we you know, we
see this also occurring in South Africa during apartheid, when
a group called the Civil Cooperation Bureau, which is part

(14:41):
of the Defense Force at the time, it's asked a
couple of experts to help them discredit the African National
Congress by bombing a cop car and trying to frame
the a n C for it. And we see that, Um,
we see that this happens much more frequently than you

(15:05):
might suspect. Right. But one big thing here that we
also need to point out is that often when these occur, uh,
they're created by factions within a government, not the entire government.
It's quite possible, for instance, that the um president or
prime minister of a country might not know what's going on,

(15:26):
and they may believe it's a legitimate attack. To absolutely
because you you'll have someone who's in a high place,
maybe in the military, that just said, look, we need
to get this done. This is hypothetical on my part,
but if you, if you believe strongly, like we said before,
enough in anything, you will do sometimes actions that are

(15:47):
unconscionable to most of us. Right. Yeah, And this brings
us to something that's that's a pretty sticky subject for
a lot of people, which is, um, the US going
to Iraq after the attacks on nine eleven. Right. Uh,
This this justification that the w m D or the

(16:10):
the relationship alleged relationship right between UM, the Saddam regime, right,
Saddam Ussein's regime and UH terrorists didn't really pan out.
It was something that UM, either the US was wrong
about or factions in the US were purposefully misleading people.
And the question here is often a question of intent.

(16:33):
That's what makes a false flag operation different in comparison
to just a typical operation, because people can make enormous mistakes, right,
But people can also do enormously immoral things if they
feel like they're working for a higher purpose. So we've

(16:54):
we've got many many more list of possible a list
of proven false flag right. And the question again being
you know, were these on purpose? Where these accidents? Were
these mistakes? Uh? But let's talk about the alleged examples. Okay, Well,
the first one that everyone would yell at us that

(17:15):
we didn't say it is just the September eleventh attacks
on the World Trade Center of the Pentagon and uh,
where did the plane fall down in Pennsylvania? Um? Yeah,
so we've heard this a lot. We get some flaks
sometimes for not covering the subject as much as some
people would like to. UM, it's a very sensitive subject

(17:40):
and it's tough for me to even go there, but
there are some fishy things that that are still there.
We've made a whole video called Thirteen Unanswered Questions about
nine eleven, and we'd love for you to check it
out if you have a chance. Uh, you know, I, Well,
here's the thing. Then, I am very skeptical when I

(18:02):
hear people say like, you can't talk about this thing
because of an issue of emotions, right in respect, but
I I'm very suspicious when people are treated like there
are certain questions a person is not allowed to ask.
They might be stupid questions, they might be UM easily

(18:24):
easily disproved or debunked, But you can't attack somebody for
asking a question. That's just that's foolish, that's a UM
it's a bullying technique of sorts. So with that, with
that in mind, UM, we would love to hear your
thoughts on whether I don't know, tell us what you
think about not just nine eleven, but the following. We

(18:47):
also have a vlog that came out this week about
the Oklahoma City bombing, which UM, you wanted to cover
because this is also the twenty year anniversary of that event. Yeah,
that was That's one of those events that I remember
as a kid, not very well, but I remember it
happening and seeing news stories and when my father and

(19:10):
mother watching a lot of that stuff. But I knew
nothing about it at the time, about what was going on,
the circumstances. Over the over the years, I've learned a
little more about it, especially then in two thousand one,
right around the time when I was graduating high school.
That's when McVeigh, Timothy McVeigh was lethally injected who killed

(19:32):
And that's kind of when I started thinking about it.
I wonder how much you've you've thought about it around
that time or since then. H Uh, this this was
if you if you can put yourself back there, ladies
and gentlemen, if you were alive when this occurred, then
you'll know that this was until uh nine eleven, this

(19:54):
was a tremendous one of the biggest acts of domestics
terrorism in US history, or at least on US soil.
And we also know that later as in you know,
like what ten years later, two thousand five, two thousand six,
maybe evidence emerged that UM federal agents were aggressively trying

(20:19):
to you know, break up possible terrorist attacks, and in
several cases cross the line from stopping his terrorist attack
to maybe manufacturing a terrorist yeah, to essentially entrap somebody basically, yeah, hey,
you have these views that are pretty extreme. Well, what
if you had a bomb. What if I could get

(20:41):
you a bomb, you know, as an undercover agent. Let's
teach you how to make it, put in your hands,
drive you to the place. And so the question that
people have about Oklahoma City is it often revolves around
something like that, was this a case where someone manufactured
to make they you know, right? Uh? And there are

(21:02):
interesting theories here. There isn't any conclusive proof at this point.
There there are things that Um, there are definitely some
strange things that are had and let's say questions that
have yet to be answered. Who made a video about it? Uh?
One of them that I found really interesting was the
one of the first responders to the bombing. I cannot

(21:25):
remember his name, Tarenceiki yek Yeki. Tarenceiki. Yeah, he he
was one of the first responders along with another officer,
and he saved I think four people, then ended up
falling and injuring himself. Um. Then I forget how many
years later, but a while down the road he ended

(21:46):
up killing himself and when they found his body, he
had tried to cut his wrists allegedly and then had
ultimately shot himself, but at an angle that didn't seem
to make sense for one to kill themselves. Um. People
alleged that he had information about the attack that he
wasn't telling, and that and perhaps he's threatening to tell, right,

(22:12):
And people on the other side of the argument that
I believe that he just commits suicide say that he
was having very difficult marital problems, and he was. And
again this is you know, as as you said, a
lot of this is allegation and speculation, but this this
exploration that we're talking about Oklahoma City. You can you

(22:34):
can watch our videos. You can hear much more about it, um,
with a little digging, because there are more facts that
come to light. The one person you will not hear
from is Terry Nichols because Terry Nichols is apparently not
allowed to communicate with anyone. He is currently serving a

(22:55):
life sentence. I think I don't know if he got
the death penalty, but he's serving a life sentence. And
his idea was that or his story side of the
stories that he was helping McVeigh make a bomb and
take it to a truck, but he didn't know what
was going to happen. And he he wants to give testimony,
but he's unable to do so currently, right And and

(23:16):
there's not really a question about whether McVeigh did it.
He did it. He it's conclusive that he did it.
The questions people are asking, or the questions that you
were asking, were um, the extent if any of other
parties involvement. We we also know that in a rock

(23:36):
there was when we talked about that a little bit,
the idea of weapons of mass destruction, which is not
not really a false flag so much as it is
either a mistake or misdirection. Sure, but we do know
that these things exist. We know that, Uh, this is
a way to learn more about what's called the deep state,
which is the unelected. The unelected officials like I think

(24:02):
high level military, think, high level agency people who don't
have to you know, run for a district to get
voted back in every four years or so. Instead, they
have a much longer potential ability to plan right, powerful

(24:22):
offices and a let's say longer further vision for what
they can achieve while they're in their office right right,
which is not which is not necessarily a bad thing,
because let's let's remember that there are unelected officials at
the Army Corps of Engineers, you know, and they are

(24:43):
able to leverage this this ability to plan for things
that are ten or twenty years down the road. It's
just that this, this power that an unelected position can
transfer is uh is dangerous and it goes both ways.
That's an excellent point. Then, hey, thank you, Matt. Uh.
We would like to hear from you what you think. Uh.

(25:05):
Do you believe that there are uh some false flag
attacks that we should have mentioned, and if so, what
are they? Do you think that people are exaggerating actual
events by claiming that there's a conspiracy of foot where
none exists. You can find us on Facebook and Twitter
to tell us about it, and you can also email us.
But just so you know, uh that how important listener

(25:27):
mail is to us, Why don't we read a couple today?
Sounds great? This is a message that comes from Katie.
She says, Hello, gents, just finished listening to your podcast
on big data, and I'm here to tell you that
there is hope. Well, yes, the big data you see
every day does generate the targeted advertising that is all

(25:49):
around us. One of the biggest, yet least discussed uses
is in healthcare. I work in predicative and analytics in
the healthcare field, where we use big data to help
predict and prevent catastrophic health events. Most of this is
driven by clinical data used during taken during every doctor's appointment.
And yes, your doctor is definitely selling your data, but

(26:11):
we're moving into the future where you're buying. Eating and
movement habits may help us even more accurately predict things
like heart attacks and stroke. We also can predict how
effective treatment is, especially in behavioral diseases such as type
two diabetes, based on the information your cell phone knows
about you. That's crazy, are accurate, It's hard to say

(26:35):
when the results are an event not occurring negative observation.
But if people get to live better lives, then does
it really matter. Don't get me wrong, it's creepy as beep,
but I I'd like to think that we're really helping people.
That's a cool perspective. That's a really cool perspective. Kay,
That's not something that we had thought about before. At

(26:55):
least that I had thought about before. I've heard of
it using uh, this information to see into your health future.
It's still is creepy, like she says, but I don't
know what do you think, Ben? I mean, if it
could save somebody's life, It could save somebody's life. And
I was really glad to read this to see more

(27:15):
of a positive look at big data, and we'd like
to we'd like to hear more of that too. We
have another letter and thank you for writing to a Katie.
We really did enjoy that perspective. We have another letter
from Adam at Tonbridge Wells. Adam says, first, great work
you do. Have been listening to you for under a
year now. Always look forward to your next topic. Thanks Adam.

(27:38):
One thing I was expecting you to discuss and forgive
me if you did on the Big Data podcast was
the police in the US who can predict where crime
is likely to be due to masses of data that
was put it that was put into this system to
set the thing up. The police on patrol are told
which areas to go at any one time. Uh, this
is a specific police department he's talking out. And I

(28:01):
had not I had not heard of this, But what's
exciting is that it is possible. You know, there is
enough there is enough data depending on the city, to
predict where things are most likely going to go down.
You know, it's interesting the time of day, what type
of crime right the neighborhood, like, where do break INDs occur?

(28:21):
When do they occur? Uh So we're gonna dig in
a little bit deeper and look at that as well
at them. Thanks so much for writing, Katie, Thanks so
much for writing. Adam. We hope that you, as well
as the rest of the listeners enjoyed our episode here
on False Flags, and we would like to hear from
you if you are into this whole podcast thing. And
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