It's Our Lucky Day, With Archer's Dr. Krieger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome

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back to the show. My name is Matt, my name
is Noel. They call me Ben. You are you? And
that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.
I want to check you guys, doing all right, feeling good,
feeling nice? Yeah? Having some car trouble? You having some yeah, yeah,
but hopefully temporary. Right, Well, it's not not not cheap.
You still made it here. You didn't make it here.

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Had a lovely uber driver in a van with one
of those doors where when you touch it it opens
with this bionic you never know how hard to push it.
You know, let's freak me out. Let them do it.
Because they are a DVD system in the back. You
could watch like Moana or something, you know what. The
windshield was cracked. You know what's weird about this is
everybody listening right now is probably thinking what is this

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episode gonna be about? I mean, if they didn't read
the title for the show, they're thinking, what are they
going to talk about? DVDs? Is this a car conspiracy?
Is this It might be, because here's the thing, ladies
and gentlemen, we are doing a very special episode, something
a little bit different. This is not about just one topic.
This is about multiple things, and we're maybe going to

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be surprised ourselves in the course of this episode. And
as every fan of UFO Disclosure has always wanted to
hear someone say, we are not alone today, we are
joined by let's what what should we call him? A
local local luminary. Yeah, there you go. He's a local
Atlanta legend of sorts, prolific performer and known for numerous things. Yes,

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he he uses his voice very much like an instrument
that you would find in an orchestra. Although I'm not
a singer. Please let's not get into that again. You know,
we can have we can play a guessing game, but
people have probably already read the titles already. That's just
what we do. That's what we do. We're tap dancers.
But who do who? Do? We have, ladies and gentlemen

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on the show, sir, Thank you so much. Truly a
dream come true for well, it's a dream come true
for us because we found out that we have someone
that likes the show. That's always cool. You've reached out
to us and were like let's hang and we're like, yes,
it is seriously the only podcast I can stand to
listen to regularly. He loved We're finally still Yeah, can

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you believe it? Yeah? I'm your guy. Yeah. So, like
he was with some background for people who are thinking
this voice is so familiar, I kind of no that
voice if they watch Archer television show now on f
x X. We used to be on Straight Up f
x uhiy Dr Kreeger. Uh, you know what, I don't

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know FX Extra. I don't know what. I don't know
here a little like yeah, I don't know, I don't
think so it's always sunny, sexy, sexy show. Well, you
know they have their moments. Well, I do know that
during the days of bootlegging and cornmash distilleries, the x
IS would show us how many times something had been

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processed or distinct right, so double maybe it's just more
and more potent. That very well could be, although I
don't know that the exacts over at x X at
f x X look that deeply into the bootlegger history
of our nation. When thinking of a good title for
their extra, where they were going to chuck the stuff.
They didn't really want to give a lot of commercial

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dollars to That's not really true, true, I don't know
how it works and TV, I really don't. I'm happy
to be on it, I'm yeah, I am happy to
imagine a world where studio exacts say we're going to
base our decisions on a nineteen twenties era bootlegging in history.
We were talking earlier. You actually listened to the to
this show. Yeah, I listened to it all the time.

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And you you caught the last episode moving to Mars.
One loved it. It's insane. We'll never get there. Humanity
will never make it that far off this planet? Are
you kidding me? We'll destroy ourselves first. And you brought
up a really great point. You said, why should we
why should we move to Mars? Why wouldn't we go
to the moon. It's the three days away by capsule?

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You know, we can build an elevator. They're kind of uh,
you know, why would we go to six months away
on a planet full of zero resources except maybe some
ice up top? Yeah? So true. And we've already been
to the moon, right, yeah, several times. Hence, as we're
going back night Moon. The VP's in charge of space.
Now he's in charge of I want to be the

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mayor of the King of Space. Um, and buzz Aldron
doesn't seem too pleased about it. You see that that
that thing where he was making some faces. Yeah, well,
buzz Aldron's at that point where he can just go
anywhere and say whatever he wants, because you know he's
been to the Moon, right, what are you gonna what
are you gonna say? I know it doesn't make him

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an automatic authority on everything, but if I were somewhere
and buzz Aldron came in and said, um, it doesn't matter,
it could be a negligible thing. If he came in
and was like, I think that you're wrong and tigers
aren't the coolest animals and EMUs are better, and I
was like, well that's your opinion, and he said I
went to the Moon, I would be like, okay, Yeah.

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I thought he stood on the Moon and looked back
down on the Earth because he moves way cooler. I
thought the moon landing was shot by Stanley Kubrick on
a sound stage. Am I face with me had to
really get the Russians and the space race apparently we all, yeah,
we could do an episode on the Stanley Cooper thing
is surprising, but yeah, it is true that you can look.

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You can, if you grab a nice enough telescope, you
can look on the Moon and see like evidence of
stuff we've left there. Why don't we just go back
up there and keep littering it and build some stuff
hotel and clean it up a little bit too, because
you know, no littering, right, Yeah, no, please, Well, we've
already too late. Somewhere there's a native Moon person crying

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a single tier on a Moon TV commercial. That's the
nineteen seventies joke. I just can't wait for Moon tourism
and will really mess up the joint. Yeah, I mean well,
and you guys are catching some hell based on that episode,
are you not. We actually really, really very intelligently worded
takedown of the episode from a listener named uh, nobody

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use the last names. It's an awesome one. Washing Felder, Yes,
Mr Washingfelder, and he says he really interested in to
the show, but the recent episode about Martian colonies was
so cringe worthy I had to force myself to listen
to the whole thing. And we don't want you guys
have to force yourself to do anything we want you
to do it. You know, no dress when listening to show.

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The biggest problem is that your guest, while I am
sure he's knowledgeable about many various things, so completely ignorant
of economics. Unfortunately, his ignorance taints the whole episode and
leads him down the path of envisioning a top down,
status planned totalitarian surveillance state. Now I have to say

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this is reminiscent of conversations we had before doing the interview.
Um and you know, communism came up a couple of
times in the interview. I think the thing that this
listener maybe is is not appreciating is that this was
in fact a thought experiments. You know, it was all
very like hypothetical and an interesting way of like how
would we restart from scrap and you use the word technocracy,

(08:04):
technocracy the idea of putting all your faith into this
ultimately man made thing that kind of goes on its own,
but we programmed it did not not. So you know,
it's like he seems to really believe that if we
let a I run the show, there will be no inequality. Well,
that's the problem. We outside of science fiction, we have
literally no real world proof or idea or precedent for

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what would happen. We have we have what auties that
can parallel park. Google has a car that manages the
stay out of accidents pretty well, and a lot of
people believe autonomous vehicles are going to be the wave
of the future. But that's not the same thing as
saying an artificial intelligence should run a society that is

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already eliminating any margin of error. Have you not seen
Space Odyssey? I mean, you know, machines, when you give
them too much power, they turn on you and they
sing creepy song in monotone voices, and they won't open
the airlock. That's what happens. That's where we're headed. Well,
eventually they see humans as the virus is ruining the

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utopia for which they were programmed to create, and they
start knocking us off. The robot revolutions coming one way
or the other. The question is which way are we?
Is that the way humans are really going out or
are we gonna knock ourselves out of the roots. I
am bold because we're going to become them, right, That's

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that's at least what is that we and man, that
is Look, I hit fifty. I become fifty years old
in October, and so I figure I've got maybe another
fifty left. Given today's modern medical science. You look good
if at that point we are able to download ourselves,

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my consciousness and sign me up the first guy in line,
I don't care if I'm hacked. That's what I get
in that world. And just see, we've seen the latest
season in Black Mirror. No, man, that really couldn't make
it past the initial well this is there's one in

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particular that's actually probably the most upbeat of all the
episodes of the entire series. It's called San Junipero, and
it deals with, without any spoilers at all, something along
the lines of what you're talking. So we get dinged
for even I accidentally spoiled lost for somebody a show
that's like yeah, so we we've kind of like stuck
with a five year cut off. Anyway, you should watch

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if you have time. So we want to thank everybody
for their opinions, keep us honest. We do have a
couple of emails that will read on a separate episode
regarding this, but I think there's a really good point
that Lucky here May, which is you know, are we
be cartoonishly optimistic about going of Mars? I think so?

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Have you have you looked at the math? It's insane? Yeah,
we can. There's no way. The best we could hope
for is to create some sort of penal colony up there,
you know, you bad, yeah, yeah, you know. For it's
the year like Georgia was once upon a time penal colony,
wasn't it. Yeah, And so like just send the bad
ones up there. If they build something great, eventually we

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can send up some other forces to take down the
prisoners and we'll just absorb the stuff that they've built.
Are awful, you know, I mean all of every organism
is awful. Every organism is fighting for its dominance in
this crazy universe of ours. And so like putting into
you want to build something, don't try to send nice

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people up there to do it. And they're gonna turn
on each other anyway, you know, Bill and Mary Jane
are gonna be doing it, and then Roderick is gonna
enter the picture, and then all hell's gonna break loose.
And we only got twenty people up there anyway, and
now they're all dead because Roderick got piste. Yeah, he uh,
we really should have screened him, you know what I mean,

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he just didn't like he didn't answer the questions like
how are they also how how will people be screened?
Will we be in a situation where the planet there
are ecosystems collapsing? Right? Like if a kid born today,
If not, then maybe when they have children, those kids
are never going to eat a wildfish or something, right,

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and even not even Alaskan sak I well, I mean
farm raised. Maybe that's a good one though, right, that's
like a premium fish. Yeah, you're hoping we might say
that Alapa thing is apparently really disgusting, and a lot
of calamaria is actually pig intestines that too, Yes, we

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think it's camar. That's I've also heard that scallops sometimes
are just pressed whitefish. They could to cut him out
with a cookie cutter and it's just like crappy like
white fish that they put in the shape of the scallop. Listen,
there's so many people on the planet, everything has to
be a lie. Yes, we just go insane and rip
each other to shreds. That's true. We have to have

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that illusion of what there was that old quotation that
was every uh, every every civilization is seven missed meals
away from anarchy. Like if nobody eats for a week,
then have you seen la miss? Come on? Actually read

(13:31):
the book, little Gavroche. I mean, I've actually never seen
the show, but I have listened to that soundtrack eight
so you kind of you know theater? Yeah, I remember,
History's a good show. I've been to Madame two solids
wax museum. Yeah, oh a sponsor of this show. Oh what, yes,

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we'd just beat. I would love to have her as
a she's surely dead. That's just a wax stone, sure
of her. Actually, I think she's in the museum, like
there is a sculpture sculpture of her. It's like if
you're a real estate agent, you have a nice house,
you know. That's a good point. That would be a

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perfect sponsor for the show. Is that to the one
in New York not long ago? It was a lot
of fun. It's fun. I'm a kid. I have a
six year old and she loved it. And as soon
as you leave, you just want you. You're like, why
don't I have a wax greaven image of myself and
wax It's so weird walking up to them, because they
really do look like living, breathing human beings that at

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any second that could turn to you and go boot
and freak you out. I was pretty freaked out and
that that sort of situation that Uncounty Valley might be
closer than we think, because you know, you mentioned medical
technology progressing. Um, I think that's realistic. You know, we
get we hear a lot about futurism, and people say, oh,
Alan Kurzwild is uh deluding himself when he says we're

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going to discover these different forms of immortality something like
it is happening. But I think before that, we'll have increasingly, um,
we'll have androids and artificial artificial beings that cleave increasingly
closer to what is human. Like in Japan, where there
are dozens, dare I say, almost hundreds of scientists who

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are saying, let's build a very specific lifelike thing. And
it's almost always creepy. It's always some guys like the
perfect woman, see you can feel pain here, very strange.

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We have some rambling fools because we haven't even gotten
to the topics we discussed and agreed upon. I know,
I mean I'm Mike in the ramble. But let's let's
ramble down this road over here. Yeah, let's do the
let's do that thing they tell you to do in
technical writing presentations. See what you're gonna talk about, to
talk about it, to tell people what you talked about. Right,

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Have you ever heard that? It's it's the old filling
time trick. Well, it's it's it's said it's some guidelines, right, Okay, So, uh,
we are we wanted to explore some of the following
things today. We wanted to explore some topics we talked
about off air, uh, cloning, aliens, magic, marijuana, legalization, and

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the extinction possibly alleged Western bar of the Dodo, which
is something we didn't know about until until you told
us about it. We're still out there, man, you think so? No,
I mean maybe there's some sort of version of it,
maybe on some you know, they were they were concentrated
on this one little tiny island of Mauritius. Uh, you know,

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until humans came along, and then they were there for
millions of years and didn't need to evolve or devolved
to get rid of their wings. There's no competition, so
what's the point. Yeah, there was, there were no mammals
on the island. People started showing up in the sixteenth century,
and then we brought along with us not only our
clubs and our appetites, but also boars and dogs and

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rats and all kinds of things that ate these ground
dwellers eggs, and so we knocked like within a hundred
years they were gone. Now I'm into the idea that perhaps, yeah,
I'm sure not all dodos stayed on Mauritius, that the
sailors who took a liking to these screwy birds throw
them on ships and brought them to other you know,

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ports and all that kind of stuff to show them off,
and maybe a couple of them got loose and everything.
But there are some really yeah, questionable videos out there
dodos running around, and it's very very obvious that these videos,
I don't know, they don't look to legit. But I
love the idea that maybe maybe you know they're ground dwellers.

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They were in thick jungles most of the time, that
you know. I mean, you guys did cryptids not long ago.
You know, if a big foot can hide, certainly, oh man,
they are hideous, though, do you I think they're amazing.
They look like really like dinosaurs that just like left.
Yeah we left around these guys know that. I'm I'm

(18:16):
somewhat terrified of birds. No, yeah, pretty legitimate birds. Yeah yeah,
they just I don't like their little lies. I don't
like their little creepy movements and they really that's what
it is. That's what it is. I'm not crazy about
lizards either. I think that might be You're only safe
because of the size difference. Yeah yeah, no, myke my

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cat too. It will will like murder birds and like
bring them home, and I don't even like to mess
with them when they're dead. Have you ever experienced the
murder bird? That's what I like north, the Northeast murder
bird is No, there's not. I have a nightmare sometimes
that they are birds under my covers, Like, no, that's true.
Don't have none of it. You've been doing that? What? Yes,

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you you should have given me a were a creep?
Well fine, I am what I am. Get out of
my life, out of my head. His cockateals need somewhere
to go at night. We'll give me too. Because I
have a period I had a period of bird bird love.
I guess when I was younger, I had a cockat deal. Yeah,
bird like, bird tolerant. I had a cockat deal and

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it was said was pictures of me as a kid.
But then I turned back that corner of bird hate
and I didn't even want to touch the cocks. So
you don't want you don't want there to be some
sort of relic population of dodos, which I I agree,
when very improbable, we have to have birds. I don't
really believe that. You guys don't write me me an emails,

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so so lucky. Uh you sent as this video when
you were like maybe still alive somewhere, and I was
thinking of all the animals that could survive with the
relic population dodos, because this is roughly in the same
area of the world where we still see a lot
of people swearing that they saw Tasmanian tigers you know,

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which are which are big creatures, and it's very very different.
Like I know, technically it would be more difficult for
those to survive just because of their size and their range,
but they just seem so much more well prepared for
life than a dodo. Well in a Dodo being a
three ft tall, fifty pound ground birds you know what
I mean, Like, if they're out there, we're gonna see them,

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you know what I mean. And yeah, like they gotta
come out for food. Sometimes they can't just eat in
the forests. They was shellfish were a part of their
diet too. Uh. Yeah, I want there to be Dodo.
It's really bad. I look forward to perhaps. I think
they recently discovered some DNA evidence of the Dodo. You know,
they had none. You know, it's just some scraps of

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bones and all that kind of stuff, and people have
stayed on it for years and years, and just recently
in the somewhere in the two thousands, they discovered something
with enough DNA evidence that you know, it's like the
mammoth where you sort of hope that they can read
it's a ground pigeon. Is the Dodo. It's in the
pigeon family. So if we can sort of re engineer

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the Dodo birds, well, for what it's worth. In four
Brits believe the Dodo still exists, according to a study
from the World Wildlife Federated People. And you know, once
upon a time, the sun never said on the British Empire.
That's true, that is true. Anybody you know. Also, who knows,
Maybe the Brits are hiding secret Dodos, maybe in palace.

(21:38):
Maybe there's a that I'm going to bounce off you.
What if there is some form of dimensional travel of
which the Sasquatch is a member of. Let's say let's
say that once upon a time the unicorns figured out
how to slip through dimensions, and then when the big

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Foot was sort of about to get extinct, the unicorns thought,
I'm gonna save that big Foot got him to the other.
Now it's then it was the Dodo. And then every
once in a while they slipped back through like they
on your Bigfoot episode. They're like Bigfoot coming like they
waved the form of weird that if you can be

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seen but then disappear. It was, Yeah, if you're gonna
go down the rabbit hole, go deep, is what I like.
We don't know that you can't slip through dimensions. We
don't know just because we can't do it and haven't
seen any real evidence. It's true because science does indicate
that there are dimensions that the average person doesn't interact

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with in a conscious way. We can't were like meat beings, right,
there's like gotta be more going I mean, there's so
much more going on than our eyeballs can see, you're perceive,
you know what I mean? So like, yeah, who knows.
We still haven't figured out death and we've been trying
to crack that nut for a long time. So do
you guys ever wonder if you're being observed from some

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higher dimensional we are there right there? There a bunch
of creeps whis know but yes, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Yeah I'm making light, but sure some sort of cosmic overlord.
I don't I don't believe in God, but like I
get that sense, right, like, there's guy, there's something I

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don't know what it is. Yeah, even if it's just
a population of other intelligent beings that exist on you know,
higher dimensional level, this idiot breed of ape ruined their
planet maybe, but it just it makes me wonder if that,
if if that didn't in fact exist, if uh, peering
into whatever this dimension is would even be possible. Well,

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if there's if there is a supersymmetry to consciousness, then
they would probably enjoy watching a train wreck. Yeah, so
I mean, because you can see the whole thing right, Like,
essentially time would be flat circle, where's my can of
lone Star? Where's my terrible sequel? Okay, I still believe

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that um so, speaking of sequels and brilliant segues, will
be right back after a word from our sponsor, and
we have returned. I proposed that we, uh, we shift

(24:32):
to something else, something that's been in the news lately. Yeah.
I saw this story not long after. I spit into
a little vial and mailed it off to a company
called ancestry dot com. They're not a sponsor, so I'm
gonna I'm gonna trash him a little bits the street.
First of all, they were very nice, they let it.
It was for another show that I work on called
Stuff of Life, and we had an episode it was
called Wired, was about the connection between human beings on

(24:55):
the planet, whether it's electronic or you know, what's the
word genetic, or you know, various ancestors, etcetera. And so
we all took the tests and we got the results
back and it was so underwhelming. It was like I'm
Scandinavian or something, and it was just like I was
expecting more granular detail in there. So it was already
let down there. Then lo and behold, I stumble upon

(25:17):
this headline genealogy a warning to Ancestry customers who consent
to use DNA services, And it's basically about how they
have partnered with a biotech company called Calico that's owned
by Google and uh. This partnership allows Ancestry to make
its customers DNA results um available to other companies for

(25:39):
research purposes. You know, this is a This is a
serious rabbit hole if we want to go down it,
which obviously we very much do we already. If you
want to go to the depths, could they clone me
without my consent? I want to run into another me
at the mall one. I don't have the whole chase

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and the whole Oh man, I wanted so badgers? For
what reason would they collect your d NA? Like? Are
they starting a seed bank for humanity? Much like the
seed bank that's being flooded out? And where is it
noway Norway. Maybe they're just holding onto it till they
can figure out something cool to do with it. Let's

(26:25):
populate Mars with workers like these guys that you know
they don't know. Yeah to Nordic, thanks thanks for your
worker up there. And we got another you digging up pit.
I was underwhelmed to the point where I was like,
what is up something? Then like like it's like it
didn't feel like a real feel like a real service.
And now I find this out and it's like, man,

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you know at first, you know, we already know our
our data as being sold sold. Now it's our d NA.
Granted I chose to spit into that little vial. That
was my choice, and it was free. But if they're
really trying to be super nefarious and get particular people's DNA,

(27:08):
it's easy to chase somebody down and get a glass
after they drank out its. Yeah, it sucks, but but
this is like fine print that I like, they have
my study, my stuff. Well, here's the thing he's stuff.
Here's one thing we do know. Gene therapy they would use.
They would look through your code to find indicators of

(27:31):
uh preponderance or tendency for a genetic disease predisposition. And
they would say, well, it turns out that this person
is Scandinavia and making this up, I'm not trying to
scare you has a higher um likelihood of developing. What's
something really weird, uh, Like they can make it up
super glaucoma super glaucoma. Yeah, it's an epidemic in Scandinavia.

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And and so they would say, okay, well, now we
have this this treatment that we've patented that can address
that thing for this specific group of people, but we
own it. You don't get a part of it. That's
the other thing they got me because I'm so cheap,
you guys. When I learned about all the massive data collection,
just electronic surveillance, I I figured, okay, yeah, well what happens.

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And then I learned that they were selling it and
it wasn't getting a cut. It was like, that is
not cool, you know what I mean. So here's here's
the here's yeah, the gist of the fine print. It's
just from an article um that I just pulled up.
It says, basically, ancestry gets to use or distribute your
DNA for any research or commercial purpose it decides, and
doesn't have to pay you or your heirs. Ancestry takes

(28:42):
this royalty free license in perpetuity for all time and
constribute the results of your DNA tests anywhere in the
world with any technology that exists or will ever be invented.
That's the part I'm talking about, or will ever be
invented Like that means they could clone me. Yeah, it's
in context when they give like in perpetuity and all

(29:02):
the known universe, like they go on, they're like, whoa,
what the universe? I feel like I got got you guys?
And long? How long can a blood sample last? Do
you think or a saliva sample last? Well, you can
also extracted or something. It's not a one and done
because you can cultivate it. So they can just continue

(29:24):
growing until they're ready to make it. I know you're
trying to make me feel better mad but not helping.
But you gotta put yourself in it. Yeah it sucks.
Don't do that. Don't take my DNA into stuff with it.
But what are they really get it? I don't know
what are they gonna do that's gonna screw up your
life so bad? Unless they like planted on the on
a crime scene, But why would they do that. Don't

(29:45):
make an enemy at whatever Google, so they're not planting
your DNA to murder. Yeah that's the thing though, of
a company like Google has this kind of power. I
don't know how I feel. What I wouldn't do is
just don't ever talk trash about Google or alphabet. I
just did ship has sale that could have launched. We're

(30:09):
on the way for me. It's not Hey, don't feel bad. Yeah,
I mean, and if we lose you, we'll just get
the other version, use my clone. And it's the type
of thing that maybe one day they like got a
clone of you in a tank somewhere, and then you're
like dying of kidney failure and then suddenly there's like, hey,
we have a kidney that's yours. You can buy it

(30:30):
from us because you signed this thing that said we
could have it would come back to you if you
like grow another one. Yeah, so you're on a payment
plan right lay away away. The thing about clones in
the basement is you gotta be really careful about power
fluctuations like that can be a big deal just from
you know, from every everything he learned. Yeah, from everything

(30:53):
I've learned that while they're in the tank, I'm assuming
they'll be in some sort of tank that if power
flux weights between that, then what might happen? Mutations will happen.
Oh yeah, all kinds of bad things could happen. Well,
you should know a little thing or two about cloning.
That's sort of a thing they carry the comedy that
Adam Read writes a script about such things. That's all.

(31:14):
I don't you have a basement with tanks? No oudly enough,
even though most of my Twitter followers think that I am,
in fact the cartoon scientists. It's remarkable to me that
in the century people still people don't know the difference
between the person who voices a character and this actual
cartoon scientist that does insane thing. Are you're saying you

(31:36):
don't have a holographic girlfriend? Really don't. Although last year
a dragon Con, there was a guy who dressed his
creaker and he had a little mini uh projector with
him and he would stand next to walls and he
had a Mitsuko as her name, and she would actually
she could move like there was like any jif form,
and so she would move next to him. It was brilliant.

(31:57):
It was like, oh, so good. You got to respect
the crap at that point, right. It really incredible people
are devoted colayers. Dragon Con cosplay in particular is pretty
and the whole point of that whole it's a New
York comic con for the first time, and it was amazing,
Like the rooms, like the vendors, got blew my mind.
But like the costume game was just not nearly the

(32:17):
same gigantic TV and film trade draw and cosplays a
tiny little part of it. It's so strange to me
with with cosplay because there is something on a psychological
level so alluring and tempting to to become some other person,
you know, and at heart, like I know, sometimes people

(32:39):
can say, oh, that's that's silly, why are you doing this?
But at heart, it's the same compulsion that drives people
to change their identities permanently. Or I don't talk very
much about my personal life on this show, but I
will confess something because it happened in the in the past.
I when I found out usually where um dark or

(33:00):
colored clothing. When I found out that I could take
a piece of just eight and a half by eleven
paper rolled up like this, stick it under the collar
of my shirt and be wearing all black, then I
started impersonating a priest on Martha and I'm sorry, it
was great. What did you do as a priest? People
conransportation people would come up and talk to me. You know,
what is an easy way around all this tomfoolery is

(33:22):
just go online and get yourself with twenty five UH ministers,
which I have. Yeah, Yeah, I'm a Yeah. I wear
my collar out in public sometimes. And do people want
somebody to talk to as much of an atheist as
I am? And I am a ranging one man. People
want some sort of religious place to go and just

(33:43):
dump all their junk onto. I liked it better when
you wear the eye patch. Yeah, the eye patch is
a different experiment. I walked up to after work spot
and Ben was wearing an eye patch, and you know,
Ben's a little bit of an intense figure sometimes regular guys.
So I'm like, hey, man, everything okay, and He's like,
I don't want to talk about it. And I was
like okay, and I'm like I know when to back off,

(34:05):
and so I backed off. And this other guy unrelated
to the original group walked up and knows Ben what's
going off the eye patch? I don't want to talk
about it, and it can. I was like, I really
thought something was up, and then like later it turned
out that he was just messing around with all social
experiments will do while I wear an eye patch and
I don't want to talk about I I don't know

(34:26):
if I'm with you, man, Thanks man, I don't know
about I don't know about fools, but yeah, it was
Oh gosh, man, rocketting and eye patch. I think it's
disrespectful if your eyes work to do it permanently, you know,
because I was thinking, what if I run into someone
who actually has because you could tell a real eye

(34:47):
patch versus a fake eye patch I have. The real
ones are obviously medical devices, and they've got gauze and
stuff on them. You don't really see people walking around
with the black eye patch, but right, and so if
I ran more of a fashion state, if I ran
into that person, it would be like running into a
genuine priest. What I'm dressed as a priest, I would
have to I don't know if I would just turn

(35:08):
tail and try to disappear, or if I would try
to see if my BS skills were accurately claim. You know,
I'm an internet uh minister, and I saw people that
might have needed to reach out, and so I slapped
on a little collar. Yeah, pulled a Dave Chappelle thing.
Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me
a police. Oh boy, who, I'm sorry, I've derailed us

(35:33):
a little bit. Let me read it back. Yeah, Okay,
what if you ran into your clone? If I ran
into my clone, I would love it. I would be
I patch is the only one that tells us who
the real that's that's that's what I would need to do. Um.
It's It's interesting because when we talk about the science
of cloning, they're actually some very dangerous problems with the

(35:55):
clones for some reason that we don't understand, tend to
be much us healthy. Like Dolly the Sheep was just
that that four lamb did not get a fair shake
from the start. Can you believe it's been since n
when Dolly the Sheep was Yeah, I didn't even realize
that was last century. I figured that was definitely that. Wow,

(36:18):
it feels like we haven't gotten that far, really stopped
that unless ancestry dot com it's got warehouses full of us.
There are theories about human cloning centers that are all
over the Internet, and we've been written to many times
asking us to cover these things. Why are why are
you not? You need a man in the field, that's

(36:41):
the problem. Yeah, we need somebody to go out there
and try and infiltrate one of these things. You need
Lucky Aids slightly successful voice actor. I want to clone myself.
I want I want to get off this money trade good.
And the thing is, if we send a clone out,

(37:02):
you know, it'll be it'll be a tragedy when something
happens to them, but it'll be a tragedy we originals
can all experience together. This is when we get a
clone of ourselves. First of all, they're gonna be a baby, right,
So it's like, who knows if this baby is even
gonna live past six months and it's still just gonna
be a baby. It'll just come out fully formed. We're
not there yet. We're not to venture brothers where like

(37:23):
we've got these tanks and beds and all that kind
of stuff. It's like, no, we're gonna have age. Acceleration
is a whole different. Yeah, it's the consciousness really that
we got to get out of our bodies. Making more
meat versions of ourselves is silly. If we are this
close to the singularity of melving with machinery, right, But
would I want to go But that's the question. Would

(37:46):
it be just a copy of your consciousness? You know?
It's like that old Theseus's ship, right, the old idea
that if you slowly replace pieces of a ship over time. Yeah, yeah,
because you're calling it whatever. Yeah, it's a completely different things. Sure,
why not as long as you've got I mean, all

(38:07):
we are is a bag of chemicals with memories, right,
which are chemically induced. Yeah, so if you can keep
those memories and keep building on them, which is the
way at least our understanding of how we work. Uh sure,
why not. It's just a different version of what we're
already doing. It's just and gooy if we get hit

(38:28):
by a rock and you might not know, I mean
you would know, but it would be a relatively academic
fact after that, where you know, maybe in the future
it would be a fun fact that you tell your
friends at parties. You're like, you know, I used to
be made out of like weird meat meat. Yeah, I
had a part of me had to be cut off

(38:48):
because I mangled it when I fell up my bicycle.
Which reads those anymore? Did you guys ever read the
comic that's available online, I think through existential comics. It
was called The Machine, and it was all a thought
experiment about this very thing with a teleportation machine with
every time you teleport, you die and another copy is

(39:09):
created in the prestige. Yeah, essentially the same thing, and
in this story I will toil it too much. But
it's such a popular thing because you can teleport anywhere,
and everyone's just doing it, and everyone is just killing
themselves and reconstituting themselves. But pick up right, like, like,
is there even a blit in the mind of the

(39:31):
clone that lets them know that they're a clone? And subjective?
They're probably in subjective time there probably wouldn't be Ideally,
they wouldn't. We've talked about this before over over cocktails.
He sounds so classy. Yes, well, you know, it's just
it's just because it's kind of thing where when you've
had a few beverages you can really you go around
around and stuff like this for a while. But the

(39:52):
think of the problem with that is we all, I
don't know about you guys, but I always thought that
I sounded way smarter than I actually did. You know,
usually sound of as smart as you are. I'm gonna
choose to interpret that as a compliment as it list
uh so, but incouraged Let's say you could have a clone, right,
Let's okay, Yeah, they could sort of accelerated. It's age

(40:14):
up to somewhere point would you want to have one around?
Let's say like, oh no, Mike, liver is failing thanks
to our conversations about this very thing. Now I need
my spare part. I would keep on me in a
tank for spare part that you couldn't make it to
me being downloaded? Do I want to be friends with him?

(40:36):
And then you go like, by the way, I'm taking
your liver well, and you hear me, yeah, he thanks
other me, And then you start fighting about who, like
who deserves to live more? Does the original who is
failing to live more? Or does the improved clone deserve
to live more? Who knows everything? I think we should
just I think the answer that a lot of people

(40:58):
will find is maybe it's just easy or to make organs.
I don't know if it's more more difficult or if
it's easier because you have to build an entire support
system to impersonate the rest of the body for that liver,
there'd have to be something like blood going through it.
But in theory that couldn't you do it like you know,
chicken McNuggets style, where it was all on an assembly line.
You could just make dozens of livers. Yeah, kind of

(41:21):
maybe exactly, like, yeah, you gotta have like a selection,
you know, Like, I don't know, man, I feel like
that would be instantly used by nefarious billionaires. Did you Also,
did you guys read this study? Um, well, I don't
know if it's studied. I'm not on this, but there
were rumors going around that, uh, people had discovered transfusions

(41:42):
of blood from young mice into old mice improved their health.
Real life vampire, right, this is a real thing now
in Silicon Valley on the TV show it was there,
but also in real life of infused in young blood
into it. That's ridiculous, though, aren't we can constantly making

(42:07):
new blood? Right, We're not just using the tank of
blood we were born with, you know, we don't have
I don't know, I don't know for how long? How
long does this attitude last when the blood it sounds
like them in vigor for the rest of time or

(42:27):
does it after a week? You know that's gonna say.
Imagine it's like taking a vitamin supplement or something. We're
just good through you essentially, then you're getting into that
countess that they yeah women battery, Yeah, well, also you
know mace water. What if it's just what if it's
just like twenty minutes, you know that's uh? Is it

(42:49):
worth it? Right? Thanks? College kid, don't life gave me
twenty minutes of your ecstasy? Uh? Did you guys watch
Silicon Val this season? There's this whole this whole thing
based on this where it's a guy who was just
employed with a salary to sit there for twenty minutes

(43:09):
and infuse blood. Well, it's character and it's based on
actual Well I can give you some of the background,
you guys. So there's a This story got reported at
m I T Technology Review. Uh. It is being offered
as an anti aging thing from a company called Ambrosia

(43:34):
for eight grand a pop. They will uh yeah, they
will inject you. I feel like all four of us
are so creepy by calling it new blood, but that's
what it is. Young blood young boy looks like the
Radiohead song We Suck Young Blood. They were prescience, weren't they?
So Uh. The guy who started, Jesse Karmazan, said that

(43:57):
within a month, most participants see improvements from the one
time infusion of a two leader bag full of plasma.
So uh. Several scientists say his trial is so poorly
designed it can't hope to provide evidence about the effects.
And it was also a pay to participate study that
collected four point eight million from the participants. That many

(44:21):
people lined up. Yeah, wow, wow, I you know, I
want to see how this shakes out. A lot of
people are saying that a lot of other experts are
skeptical to say the least. But I have to ask
if we assume it worked, Like if somehow it worked,
which biologically at this point doesn't make sense. But but

(44:44):
if it worked, what would be the point where you
would not do it? You know? Would it have to
be like the time span is not enough, would someone
have to die? Would you be taking all of someone's
blood and then living a more healthy virile. It just

(45:04):
strikes me as such a boogie thoughtless thing to do.
In the first place, we know blood donation centers are
always in short supply, not enough people donate blood, and
we're just like scooping up all the blood that like
dying children needs and just just like feel good, get
a little pep in my step. But imagine, terrible, imagine
if you could make a living, like an actual living

(45:27):
and pay rent just by giving your blood away to
these ultra rich humans. Would you do that? But wouldn't
you feel terrible all the time? You'd just be a
blood bag? Like yeah, you would literally do something. No,
that's a terrible life. That's not all. That's not all.
That's cool though. You could play some PlayStation while you
do you make all the time like about to pass out.

(45:50):
You just have cookie, yeah, or just cooking inn oculus
risk and you're good to get know what a terrible
stop it. People's awful, all right. I'll admit though, if
I even't really wanted to clone, just like the idea
of it, Yeah, of course, yeah, of course I would.
If I ran into another at the mall, it would

(46:11):
be the best. It would be cool, like hopefully if
they had similar personalities, which we don't know if they would,
we don't know, we don't know. Right, there's the one.
There's this one farmer that had a beloved bull, and
this bull would come in and out of their house
all the time. And the bull finally died and they
went to like Korea to have this thing cloned, and
it came in. It started out like, oh, it's just

(46:33):
like old rab or whatever the bull, and then the
bull turned on them because clones are bevil. Clearly they've
never seen science fiction, and so the bull became this horrible, crazy,
rampaging bull that they had to put down. And they
should have been able to tell the mustache and all. Also,
don't let bulls in the house. That is a bad

(46:56):
number one. Yeah, you got a bull, the bullyard. Yeah,
that's when people that's when people tell me my my
first day, told me on my first day, starting here,
should we we should we take a quick stop, hop
off the bowl and take a sponsor break and then
hop back on. Sounds great and ride. So now our

(47:23):
our sojourn finds us arriving at something that Matt Noel
and I had talked about a lot off air, which
was our earlier interview about disclosure with Stephen Greer Aliens.
This is one of the things you had mentioned off
air too. I wanted to bring that up earlier and
tie to something we mentioned, this idea of being watched

(47:43):
by some force and the idea that they're sort of
watching us screw up our lives and our planet in
our society. And we talked in the interview about if
these are extra dimensional creatures, do they have some purpose
and interact thing with us, like, are they here to
help us? Are they watched waiting to watch us burn

(48:04):
ourselves to the ground so they can swoop in and
do something with what we leave behind. I don't know.
I think that's that was one of my favorite parts
of that discussion. Yeah, I'm always I'm always terrified with
the quietly terrified. I would think a very like repressed
British kind of terrified. When I think about the physicist
who say Stephen Hawkins is one famous example, but the

(48:27):
physicists who say we don't want to meet extraterrestrials, why
would they come all this way if they were traveling,
you know, according to the dimensional rules we understand. And
more even more disturbing, what if what if there are
other civilizations? Are SINCHI intelligent beings? They can hear all

(48:48):
the signals we're trying to put out and they're just
not responding. Yeah, maybe they're just like no way, yeah
I don't want to And maybe they're hiding. Maybe they're hiding.
Maybe we're colle actively our species. Is that idiot in
a horror movie who's like, hey, guys, I heard something
weird in this house. I better go down there. I'll

(49:08):
go down this cellar up the stairs, you see. I
think we're just more in our infancy. If there are
other intelligence spaces, were nothing compared to the lifespan of
a planet. I mean, we're in the middle of how
many times has there been a mass extinction? We're in

(49:30):
the middle of the sixth one right now. Yeah, okay,
so so five times before everything has been wiped out,
and so we're just the leaders at this one. Like
we had not been on this planet for that long
as a species. Uh, I'm going to say evolution, because
that's how it works. You know, we've evolved during just
this small amount of time. Great, we have thumbs and

(49:53):
big brain cavities. But my question to all that is
that maybe there are and they be you know, they're
watching us and all that kind of stuff and don't
want to have anything to do with us or our
planets set up. Maybe species can't evolved to such a
state to even make it off a planet, you know
what I mean, like maybe the universal laws or whatever,

(50:16):
just like why would we ever want to infect other
places with you? I don't know. I mean that's the
Earth is like an organism basically, uh, you know, and
every creature on it is another organism that is fighting
for space all that kind of stuff, and humans are
really running wild on ours and you know, at some

(50:38):
point we're going to throw good numbers of ourselves off
one way or the other. And maybe that's just how
life works, uh in the universe, is that that we
can only get so far, any species can only get
so far before they just burn themselves out or throw
themselves off the planet because they get too smart. But
our own good. I really like that you pointed that

(50:58):
out because the one of the things that we've explored
in the past, which is bothers people on an existential level,
is just what you said. It's a massive um. I
guess I could say it's a massive pain in the
ass I can say on the air, right, Okay, well,
I think we've loosened the reins a little. That's true.
From the Mars interview. I forgot about that, yes, But

(51:21):
the point is, you know, it's it's a massive pain
to take anything that's specifically adapted to living in this
larger organism recreated environment, uh in a sustainable way and
then just put it out in glorified um. I mean,
the best we can do, but a glorified container, right
and then and then say okay, let's just keep playing

(51:43):
this lottery until we can build something. So I says,
something larger and sob I sustainable. It seems like the
future of space exploration is going to belong to whatever
new life form humanity creates. So we're not the protagonist.
Elite were like the builders. Yeah, they're like the midwives

(52:04):
or something. Yeah, yeah, we we were the result. And
and you know, there's of course the theories that the
life on this planet evolved from commets and things smashing
into it because somewhere else there were these organisms and
the microscopic level that attached to the various commets and
whatnot got here and then boom, life happened. And so
you know, if we really want to get off planet,
I say, we just start you know, shooting, put put

(52:29):
our personal microbes on some rocks in the space and
hope for the best. Get some spermozoa and some eggs
on these rocks and get them out there trying to
put a man. Why would we try to put humans
on Mars where they're just gonna get bombarded with radiations
and nightmare scenarios that they'll never survive? Is it because

(52:50):
we just want to have one guy or one lady
who can one up buzz Aldrin And a conversation later
when I had what did you do? Was one of
the most fascinating things from the Mars episode They procreating
on Mars and how how long it will take to
figure out if that's even possible. I mean, it's so
like completely unsustainable. Was I think they could take a

(53:10):
hundred people at a time and their goal is to
get a million people and yeah, and they were saying
by the time that everyone got there, there'd be a
whole new generation of kids that have been born. They
worked the way we work because we grew up on
this planet, not on some other planets. But one thing
that came up in the interview was with with with Marshall,
was I brought up the idea would we evolve differently

(53:35):
on Mars versus you know, who really figured this stuff
out was the first total recall, whereas immediately like true
Martians became mutants. So these weird because they were just
growing up in this completely different environment than Earth is.
And so we started sending people there and they started breeding,
and then you got quatto. Yeah, if you've seen the

(53:59):
video where that but he's singing your Eyes by Peter
Gabriel and again to go with Hawking, Yeah, why would
we want to meet? So let's say some species was
brilliant enough to make its way off the planet or
slip in between dimensions and all that kind of stuff,
and they're here and they're watching us, who are total morons,

(54:22):
like with the humans, do not have it figured out
or else the world would be in a very nice
state right now where everybody would be working harmoniously with
one another. We are absolutely not in that state. But
they's gonna be so much further advance. Why would they
come here for anything other than resources? And if that's
what they're here for, unless we're the resource they need,

(54:45):
then would be getting loaded onto ships to just wipe
us out and take whatever they were here for it Unobtainedum,
there was a Twilight Zone episode where the Aliens wanted
to take us all to their planet. Everyone about it, right, accept,
that's great show, great, they created like every twisty sci

(55:09):
fi troupe in that gallery. You have a quote. Kreager
has a quote in the show about superior anal technology
with the Aliens and that's why he was so fascinated
by abductions and aliens. Yeah, and uh, they could tell
so much just by probing our butts. That's that's one
of the strangest and funniest things to come out of

(55:32):
pop culture around abductions and aliens and all that. I
just why is it always an anal prob? Why are you? Yeah,
why are they anybody so much information? What's ground zero
for anal probe? Alien tropes? Like? Was it? Was it
the Twilight Zone? No? I don't think who was during

(55:52):
the collective there was some real fads of suddenly there
were all these were forward, right, and so like that.
I think one abduct he probably brought it up, and
then other abductees quotes on the same Oh yeah, that
happened to me too. And then then of course, because
it's the funniest thing that could happen is that you

(56:12):
would go on this ship and the aliens would start
sticking things in your butt. That's the one that people
because we are still just who throwing monkeys? Absolutely, and
I know I don't not believe in the concept of abductions.
I just don't think we have enough information. I'm not
like fully on board. But I have the same attitude
towards that as I do about like the existence of

(56:35):
you know, a greater here's you know, if Anywans were
coming here and abducting us, why would they put us back?
I want to just take us, take a person, go off,
do all their experiments in the discard? Why did they
wait for ethical reasons bringing us back and putting us
back in the sort of fuzzy memories of what happened,

(56:58):
Like what's the point of throwing us back? Maybe they
have really high level morals in there, and they would
ask us permission, and they have a booth and you
know who sign up college campuses at the alien fair
where you would go and see like, oh yeah, I'm
gonna go with this experiment as I want the aliens
to figure out about us. You'd get a small amount

(57:20):
of money. Why would they ever bring us a stipend
at least? Yeah, Like we had all these extra steps
so that they're nice to us in the end, Like
they're awful, but they're nice. Well, there's also the possibility
that abductions occur, but are the cause is misattributed, you know,
because we know memory is treacherous, right, One thing I
thought was interesting about these alien abduction stories is if

(57:41):
you look at them plot point for plot point, they're very,
very similar to the old tropes of people being visited
by change lands or fairies. You know. So I think
there's a larger phenomenon or experience or something in the zeitgeist.
But I think it's also it's all just very It's

(58:03):
it's easy to attribute a specific cause with a lack
of transparency, but if we don't know, then we can
just say what is more likely, what is less likely?
And I love the point you're making about why why
would it be catch and release? You know what I mean?
Because what is this? What you will there's a whole
spaces endless as far as we know, just chuck our

(58:25):
bodies out when you're done with us. I will say
this though, and this bleeds into not only what we're
talking about, but also my theory on ghosts another which
is dimensional echoes. Right, So we could be, you know,
the theory say that we live in this multidimensional system
where and let's say, dimensions rub up against each other.

(58:47):
That's what I think ghosts because I wish, man, I
wish more than anybody, you know that ghost spooky ghosts
would be flying around all over the place. God, I
want that to be real. I don't think it is.
But I've lived in a house that other tenants have
claimed was haunted, and they heard a lot of things,
and every once in a while you would see a
weird shadow walk by that you didn't. But I think

(59:10):
things like that are just like maybe there's a dimensional echo, right,
Maybe sometimes that they the strings or whatever get a
little close to each other, and so there's some bleed
in between dimensions, and maybe abductees are sleeping and they
see this guy, they some other upside, some other dimensional

(59:31):
thing will rub up against it there they can perceive it.
They don't know what to make of it, and so
they create this already in the pop culture mindset, or
these alien abductions, and so it must have been that
as opposed to this other thing that I can't even
possibly begin to explain. I don't know, did you ever
have any personal experiences while you were there? The only
seeing out of the corner like me and some buds.

(59:55):
Granted we were in our twenties, all stoners, beyond belief
and you know, up at all hours, just being ridiculous,
but we would all be sitting there, like either watching
TV or something, and you'd see something walk by a
doorway of these big French doors, and you'd see something,
and everybody in the room would turn and look, you know,
at the same time, like what was that, and like

(01:00:17):
whoa what just happened? And one of my very best
friends on the planet and also a big skeptic, was
left in the house at one point during the holiday season.
Everybody left and he heard like a full on party
going on upstairs and he was alone in the house
and he was freaked out, like he like left the house.
He couldn't take it anymore. And the guy, one of

(01:00:41):
our buddies, who his grandmother had originally owned the house,
and apparently there was a lot of entertaining that went
on during the holidays and all that kind of stuff.
And that's when I was like, well, maybe these are
just some sort of echoes of those old times and
stuff that somehow, I don't know, a conscious not a
conscious thing, just say another experience. So I've told this

(01:01:02):
story in the podcast before. I used to tell the
quick version. Um, But when I was a kid, a
girl I was dating a dear friend of hers died
in a car accident and I got into her car,
my my girlfriend at the time, she was finished class,
and it was like really cold, got in and she
was like crying, and I'm like, what's up? And she
blows on the inside of her car windshield and the

(01:01:23):
girl who died with her signatures. They're clear as day.
And in my mind at that moment, I was like
ghosts and you got really emotional, and I felt like
a sense of this thing. But I know now that
it was totally like the kind of thing of a
girlfriend would do, you know, like in their early twenties
or whatever, write your name and in the in your

(01:01:45):
breath or whatever, and you got residue on your fingers,
so it's it's like, yeah, exactly. But like in that
moment though, I was just like done, I mean, you know,
and it was like and he I didn't even have
to explain it away, just kind of like fizzled over
time where I realized, oh, I was kind of like
really taken in by the moment, but like this is
really what was happening, and it was kind of disappointing.

(01:02:05):
You know, our brains want an answer a lot of
times they're just aren't ones that we can perceive, and
so we come up with ghosts. Wen here's where we
get into something very similar, where the human mind is
just trying to make sense of something that we don't understand,
and we call it a lot of times magic. So yeah, okay,

(01:02:30):
all right, I'll buy magic. Yeah. Magic, Well, it's something
that comes up here all the time because we discuss
how technology, if it's advanced enough, it seems to be
magic to us simply because we can't explain it. I cannot. Yeah,
as far as I know, there's a little wizard that
lives inside my laptop that makes it happen as far
as I know. Yeah, I don't know how it works.

(01:02:50):
What's that Arthur C. Clark quote? Yeah, that's what we're
just like. Uh, technology past a certain point is indistinguishable
from magic. I'm paraphrasing. Only that comes up hardcore in
the New Transformers movie. I think it's in the first
four movie too. Yeah. So there's this idea, right, But
then there are other human beings throughout history who have

(01:03:11):
tried to make use of a more I don't want
to say conventional magic, but spell casting and actually writing
things down and yeah, yeah, the focus your mind on
this one sort of subject or or outcome that you want,
and somehow you are making the universe respond to your
constant thought processes. Yeah. I used to buy into that

(01:03:35):
stuff too, but then it becomes how can I, possibly
my little chemical thing going on in my brain have
any influence whatsoever on the physical world around me? How
unless I do so, Like, unless you're influencing yourself in
some way. Yeah, unless it's like weaponized psychology, which is
a phrase somebody use that I thought was I thought

(01:03:56):
it was cool, um, but it's Yeah, it's true. There
are certain things that no matter how much you focus
your attention or whatever, how art in a fan of
the secret you are, you can look Like hundreds of
people got together in the sixties and tried to lift
the White House with their minds. They's still on the ground,

(01:04:17):
you know, Okay, thank you, sorry about that. They should
have tried with like we tried to lift the bike first, Like,
let's start with a bicycle before we moved to the
White House, which is a giant building. It was people
very heavy. So yeah, it has an extensive basement. I
was just gonna say, have a bowling alley in it.

(01:04:38):
So maybe if we got a couple of hundred people
and like a toddler's bike. Yeah, start a ping pong ball.
Lift that up hundreds of people. We're gonna put it
right in the middle of his field. You make a
circle around it. Just lift this ping pong ball up.
What do you guys do the next Saturday? Hopefully lifting
a mind. I'd rather just play some ping pong and

(01:04:59):
we just keep it simple. I think we can. I'm
a basic. I think we're gonna do this all in
one afternoon. We just have the multitask, you know what
I mean. We could take the ping pong balls from
the ping pong game that will satisfy me and then
try to lift them with our minds. Or we could
see if someone could try to like tilt the ping
pong game in your favor. Yeah, you know, because that's

(01:05:19):
what people would do if they had small amounts of
telekinesis right, you'd be in Vegas playing craps because you'd
never loose. Don't you ever feel that urge though, just
to like think real hard at something and make it
do a thing. I try to do that all the time.
It doesn't work, But like telenes is magic, essentially you
know what I mean, We're all these words, all these

(01:05:41):
you know, different things. It's all the same crap. It's
just like you want something to happen that really can't,
but so you're gonna make this thing called magic, make
it work. They just haven't harnessed the strings yet in
some cases. In some cases, practices that would have been
considered magical in the modern day did use uh important results,

(01:06:02):
like alchemists when their predecessors of chemists discovered a lot
of stuff. Some of it, it turned out, later came
back to bide us, like pesticides. But at the time
that's amazing, And so I I can definitely see that
edge of that. I have a proposition for you guys
that ties into this a little bit. So. One of

(01:06:25):
the big psychic powers, which I would also classify with magic,
that people will typically talk about in fiction or sometimes
claim the experience, is what's called psychometry, the idea that
by touching a physical object, someone with this gift would
somehow know what happened. Right, So like so like Lucky

(01:06:45):
is like Lucky is like in somebody's kitchen and he
picks up a knife and then he just all of
a sudden knows that was used as a murder weapon,
and he's still gotta like hang out and be cool
with whomever the killer is for a second. Right, that's
how That's how it happens. But um now I think
it's it's plausible or well possible that we as a

(01:07:08):
species could arrive at a situation where technology or the
Internet of things, which that was used to be a
really popular phrase, where it enables that kind of psychometry. Well,
there was a there was a product that came out
and there are probably several of these called tile and
all the idea. The idea was like people who lose things,

(01:07:29):
and for a lot of people, this is a this
is a convenient thing, and what it means is that
you will never you'll not only will you never not
know where an object that is tagged is, but eventually
that same technology could get us to a point where
you know, this cup also as a story that I

(01:07:49):
can tell that you can pick up just by touching
it and just running your phone over it. That's pretty interesting.
But I like seeing the trees and what not that
it came from. Who knows what? From what am I
going to get from my cup? Yeah? When it gets
documented first, like if they put if there was a
cup is not the best I mean, honestly, it's not
the best example. But yeah, if they made the cup

(01:08:11):
and then they tagged the cup with that held the cup,
Yeah yeah, done with the cup, right, right, that's what
I mean. I think that's I think that's possible. But
also I would ask if that ever happened, would you
want that would you want to participate in that society?
I mean, unless it's just another distraction to keep us

(01:08:31):
from the horrors of us destroying ourselves. Any So, what's
the point of knowing your cups? The story? Yeah? Right,
you know what I mean, what's the point even how
it's just because we can do it? Like, yeah, that's
Historically that's something that we've often we've often said as
as a life form, we've often been like, hey, you
know this thing we could do. It's someone's like, oh,

(01:08:55):
like we can do that thing, like yeah, yeah, Like
well let's go into the desert and blow up and out. Yeah,
let's go do it. Our curse right of humanity, Like
we're fearless and curious at the same time. I don't
care if it's going to wipe out a bunch of
ourselves in order to find something. Man, if we think
of something, we're gonna have to do it, and I'm

(01:09:17):
gonna stop until we do it. That's just the human
way we can. Yeah. So, so you were into magic
at some point or you just the idea of magic itself. Also,
because you know, every religion in the world is is
based on the idea of giant magical being who you know,
has other magical henchmen that seem to no longer really

(01:09:40):
be working out there in the field. But it's all
magic based, you know what I mean. And this is
like it has such a grasp on humanity. The concept
of magic, even though it's weird bringing up religions, is
that when you introduce that word to somebody when discussing
you know, I'm an atheist and so, but if I'm
discussing somebody who has a religious background like my parents,
Let's say, if you bring up the word magic, they

(01:10:03):
flip out. But then when you explained, but here's what
you're saying, and there's no other way to describe what
you're saying other than using magic, which is ironic considering
that a lot of hardcore Christians think any magic that
doesn't isn't involved in their religion is evil and witchcraft
or satanic someone like that. Oh my god, that its work.

(01:10:30):
And it's not just Christianity to conte. Yeah, and I mean,
and it goes to humans being just very tribal and
we've got to have our group is the right group
and not your group. Let's wipe each other out so
that our ideas are the ones that survived, and it's
a zero sum game. Yeah, I'm so jealous of you.

(01:10:50):
Haven't been able to see saw Ricky Gervais debate or
defend his atheism to Stephen Colbert, who is a devout Catholic,
and he had the couples line. It was like, I
believe in one less god than you. Yeah. It's like
there's what three thousand gods in the working canon of
humanity right now. I just don't believe in one more

(01:11:11):
than you. Yeah, you don't believe in two thousand ns.
I just believe don't believe in three thousand of them.
And thought point, it's great, you know, you know, if
we want to get into religion, I don't know how
many cards and letters, but we just at this point
would like to remind everyone we will never tell you
what to believe, No, no, what gets you through your day, great,

(01:11:35):
just as long as it's not causing you to do
harm upon others. That's the way I see it. I
think we can all agree with that. If you think
gets through your day and you all your beliefs and
you rocket man do it, go for it. Happy for you. Um,
But you know, I don't think that. Well, I don't
think you know, I don't think they're I'm not a
big believer personally in proselytizing, so I don't. I don't

(01:11:58):
think it's we say it on the show because it's
something that we practice in our real lives. We're not
going to go out and tell people what to think
or what to do now, but it's okay to say, uh,
you know, I'm not going to tell you not to
attempt to launch yourself out of a cannon without training,

(01:12:19):
but say, well, you should know, the odds of you
being injured or are much higher than the odds of you,
you know, pulling off this cool trick. I mean, the
person you're trying to impress might date you, but they'll
be dating you in the burn ward for a while.
Best case scenario. I think that's I mean, I think
that's absolutely funny. I appreciate you said. Whatever it takes
to get you through your day. Um, so whatever gets

(01:12:43):
you through your day. We know that we live in
in the West, at least an increasingly secularizing society, right
and uh, we also know that people are shedding some
of the old taboos that once existed. Social taboos, I mean, right,
and one of the biggest cases of stuff they don't

(01:13:06):
want you to know that we get. Since this show
began the people asking us about marijuana legalization, specifically cannabis
and hemp. H Yeah, we found a various different and
surprising historical anecdotes. You know, marijuana was not the always
the villain that it became, you know, so we wanted

(01:13:31):
to ask, you know, what do you think about the
current movement, which is state by state. Um, I'm kind
of contradicting the federal government stance. So do you think
about the current movement towards legalization? Because I'm a huge pothead. Still,
what do you mean still? You said it was in
your twenties. Uh, no, that was my old drinking days.
And well in my twenties I did I left I

(01:13:53):
left pot for a while. Uh. And I became a
real good drunk, uh fun draw though I never got
bad or anything like that, but I could eventually, i'llcohol
turned on me. Uh and I turned back to Pott
and I went, you know, I was, I'm like I
with like many artists, I got a lot of neurotic

(01:14:13):
hangups and such, and uh my entire life, I've always
you know, been a panicky type. And I was taking
Paxel and all kinds of everything all day long, you know,
having a pop pills every day just to keep me
grounded and man. Then we came back into my life
and completely changed the game for me, Like I just
put me at ease with things I had never been

(01:14:35):
at ease out before. Gave me perspective on things that
and you know it, and it was different than it
was in my twenties, my experience with pot in the twenties,
which was you know, I mean, I mean my twenties.
So I'm just looking at party, party, party, party, party,
as opposed to this thing that I'm discovering. Like, not
only does it open me up to uh talk more
about ideas and see things from a different perspective than

(01:14:58):
I had before. I think maybe age has something to
do with that too, but um it also I don't
have to pop Paxel every day anymore because this has
completely like mellowed out my whole panicky situation that I
was always in the middle of into like being able
to cope with things on a much more adult and

(01:15:18):
responsible level than I had been, which I was just
reactionary before. And we've done episodes on Big Pharma and
obviously pretty significant and it just about anybody just observing
could argue roadblock too wide scale large scale legalization is well,
that's the whole and that's exactly correct. The problem with

(01:15:42):
POTT is is that it's too perfect and it grows
wild and uh, giant corporations can't control that so much.
And this is again goes back to the Mars trade.
Throw capitalism up there, because it's just gonna destroy itself
really fast. Like if as soon as you through the
idea of like who's going to make more money up

(01:16:03):
here than it just ruins everything. Like, so yeah, I'm
all for a pot. Uh you know, I also want
to keep uh you know, the big corporations out of
it because it is a crop and you know, so
here's the thing, Lucky do you live in Atlanta? I do.
I do, And I smoke pot every day, okay, which

(01:16:25):
is illegal and this thing, but you think that that
is what makes it hard to get ahold of. That's
the other thing is that Look, every other state, including mine,
own every state that doesn't have legality. It's out there
and it's the easiest thing in the world. It's easier
for me to buy weed than it is for me
to buy alcohol. And I'm fifty years old, you know

(01:16:47):
what I mean. Like, I got a hundred guys that
I know that I can get some weed off of
drive to a liquor store and to know where one
of those is, and guys that will deliver marijuana to me.
It's true. Alcohol delivery isn't a thing. Yeah, not yet.
They're probably working on it. But it's weird because it's
it ties into some of the blue law things right where,

(01:17:10):
and those are especially common in the South. We used
to talk about, well, we was talking about the case
for legalization, whether it's decriminalization or full recreational legalization. When
Colorado UH massively boosted their tax revenue and the state
ran out of weed to sell. Nevada is currently just

(01:17:32):
this month became like they opened up their dispensaries and
they're out of pot. Because it became so everybody smoking
weed except the guys in the big offices that are
telling us not the smoke weed. Well, they might be
smoken too. What what's that old line about prohibitions, like, uh,
people will vote for prohibition as long as they can

(01:17:53):
still stumble to the polly. Admission does nothing but create crime.
That's where the crime comes in, is the prohibition. As
soon as it's legalized and regulated, then there's no problem anymore.
It certainly feels like we're on the road to decriminalize,
at least in a lot of places. I think the
country is gladly walk to a dispensary and pay more

(01:18:14):
than I currently pay on the black market, knowing that
the more that I'm paying is going to fund better
schools for my state? Are you kidding me? Absolutely? Throw
in on that. Look at the numbers, though, it's absurd
how much money it makes, yea. And when it's using
you know it's done in these more progressive states they
use it. Well, it's like you can pay for infrastructure.

(01:18:36):
Already doing that in Georgia with the lottery, which is
just legalized gambling. Uh. You know, we won't call it
that ever, because we're not a gamble state. But that's
all that is. And every way it goes to our
schools and in theory scholarships and such. Yea a little bit,

(01:18:57):
but so good again, good good chance to start afresh
with marijuana legalization and like then you past legislation that
earmarks that product and it has to go there or else.
This whole thing is done. What's really standing in the way, though,
obviously politicians are a big part of it. You've got
the old generation of fear. There's a lot of fear

(01:19:18):
from because you know a lot of people, that's the
fear about losing their their influence. And I think it's
a voter base, right, It's the type of thing that uh,
you know, my parents I don't think would ever vote
for legalization, even though they have two sons that are
chronic marijuana smokers. Uh and uh. I think it's because

(01:19:41):
they were adults during the Nixon years when he convinced
them what an awful, terrible thing this was, and that's
what they still have in their mind. The myth is
still very much alive of what marijuana is. And you
know it's a boogeyman that like, oh, they're gonna start
doing other joints like madness saying zero zero want to

(01:20:02):
do cocaine, LSD any of the other drugs. Just being
and I'm a huge pophead, but I'm a huge pope
because I love pot. That doesn't make me want to
do like let's throw my body into another weird state
that I might not be able to control. I know
how I am on weed, and I'm the best me
when I'm on weed. Uh, but like if I get

(01:20:24):
on LSD, God knows what's gonna happen. I don't want
to go down that road. That's that's the thing. It
reminds me of the little p s a s where
someone's like where someone talks to their their drug dealer
and hey, do you have any marijuana? Like, no, I'm
out of marijuana. Try this heroin. No one would ever
do that. No one's ever, no one's ever. God, Well,

(01:20:46):
it is a drug. Well it goes back far than that.
I'll tell you what, back in my drinking days. Uh,
drinking makes you want to fight, and it makes you
want to argue, and then it also loosens your inhibitions
enough that you want to start throwing punches. I have never,

(01:21:07):
not once while being high on the marijuana, have ever
wanted to do anything but sit down and discuss normally
cool topics. Uh. It never wanted to throw a punch.
It never made me want to go do something stupid
that I wouldn't have done had I not been stoned.
But that's all alcohol does is it makes you do

(01:21:28):
the dumbest crap and gets you into nothing but trouble.
Plus you feel like crap the next day. And man,
there's no such thing as a weed hangover because I've
pushed it to the limits and I've never woken up
the next day going, oh man, I'll tell you what.
I'm turning thirty four pretty soon. And I had just

(01:21:49):
a little bit to drink the other day. Yeah, nightmare.
And that's why I stopped drinking, is that I my
love of alcohol did not end. Alcohols low of meat ended.
It became a one way relationship instead of a two way.
And I know what, I'm not wanted anymore. So I
took my belongings out of the Sweet Lady Boost's apartment

(01:22:12):
and h there was Mary Jane waiting for me on
the street. Corner, oh Man, serial monogamous took me right
into green embrace, and I shall never go back. Well,
what one thing I'm finding interesting about these conversations is
that more and more people seem to be regardless of
whether or not they personally use weed in any form,

(01:22:33):
you know, uh, typically, more and more people seemed to
be saying, well, what's the big what's the big deal? Like,
when's the last time that a crime related to the
nature of this substance, not to the low rounding it,
but to the inherent nature of the substance. When's the
last time that caused a crime? Everybody currently in our

(01:22:55):
societists to say, the United States, everybody who wants to
smoke weed right now is already smoking weed. It's there's
not the illegality of it isn't stopping anybody, because it's
so easy to get. And the problem is is now
it's so easy to get that if high schoolers want
to smoke weed, they can go get it. If it's

(01:23:16):
made legal and regulated, suddenly that becomes a little more
difficult because then they got to get a guy to
go into a store to pick some up and then
give that back to the kid on the outside and weird.
It's like, you know, hanging out the side the seven
eleven trying to get some older guy to buy you
a beer. Like, it's just gonna mess up at some point,
but it's not going to knock the black market out

(01:23:36):
entire it won't, but it'll put a good step in
there in the middle. It's gonna up your game. It's
weird to think about. If it does become legal, imagine
buying bootleg alcohol off of somebody like on the street.
You could you could just go into a liquor store
and get some alcohol. Or there's a guy that you
know that has some, but he calls it jin still

(01:23:59):
guys running a step fast Jimmy with the Still that
is really interesting. I wonder how that that would affect
the black market. Well, that's still that still does happen
because this would be heavily taxed. And so even after prohibition,
there were people who kept like corn mash stills, We're
going all the way back around, uh, corn mash stills
to um to avoid pain. Any kind of tax exactly

(01:24:22):
will still happen where people will be growing. And so
let's say it's legal, and then then it becomes like, well,
where is your farming license in order farm this? Now
it's a crop. You can't sell corn to people on
the street just from your growing in your backyard technically, Uh,
you know, we you shouldn't be able to grow this
other crop because we don't know what you're doing with it,

(01:24:42):
and it's a regulated thing. People are always going to
grow their own, uh you know, that's they we have
to now out of necessity. So that's you know, and
there's a huge industry and grow your own, you know
what I mean, hydroponic kits and all that kind of stuff.
A huge industry and time. But the only thing we're
not allowed to do is put a seed in ground
and wait for it to grow up into a grow

(01:25:03):
and then take a flower off and put it in
our body. That it's always weird of me at you.
It's like you've got these like research chemicals they call them,
like lab chemicals that are legal for a time because
they're so new. Right, Like let's talk about like the
bath salt's epidemic, remember that where it like you know
that some of that was debunked, but it was like
a really potent like amphetamine more or less that was

(01:25:24):
causing people to do pretty crazy violent stuff and like
total dissociative properties, right, But again that's stuff. It was
legal when they were doing it, and then you know,
and then the d A catches up, figures it out,
makes it illegal. But things are moving so fast with
like sign researchers that kind of come up with these

(01:25:45):
byproducts from whatever they're doing, I guess, and then someone
figures out they can market it as some kind of
like a quick high or design or drug. Yeah, look
at the opioids has people hooked on basically a win
in the form of a pill that came to them
in you know, as a pain pill to deal with

(01:26:05):
their pain, and didn't do it for under like downplaying
it two doctors, Like literally the corporations are saying to doctors,
that's fine, it's fine, pass it out. It's perfectly legal.
Yet if you grow that completely just grows wild. We
never did anything to it, I mean that we have now,
but then we've just made other pretty flowers that have

(01:26:28):
crazier effects than they used to. But I have a
have too fun facts about marijuana. One, in Bhutan, the
very small Himalayan kingdom, it grows wild in the ditches
and it's it's legal if the people want to smoke it,
but they don't. They feed it to the pigs, so

(01:26:48):
it may have the most relaxed pigs on the planet.
Their their pork is probably delicious. It's like, oh my god,
the big is so not traumatized by any of its life.
This is the most amazing orc burrito I've ever had.
And the second one is it apparently U marijuana is
technically legal in North Korea, which wouldn't expect from such

(01:27:11):
a totalitarian regime. But apparently that's the one that's I
don't know what kind of day, you know, Kim Millsung
and Kim Jong when was having when somebody came to
him and maybe it was like later in the afternoon
on a Friday and they're like, hey, uh so we've
we've got that, we shot the people they want to shot,
and where are we at with the weed? And he's like,

(01:27:33):
I don't know, man, just letting him smoke, let's do it?
Is it on? Is it on their list of grasses
that the citizens are they suggest the citizens that they
eat because there's no food. Oh, that's a great question.
I do not know. And it is it is said
that that is U. There is a Yeah, what a
what a great country? That is we being legal or not?

(01:27:58):
But even even the DPR cave in North Korea don't
let you? Yeah I said that, So Jim Jong ill
let you do it? Yeah? Why can't we? And so
you know that dude's smoking. Look at that haircut? Wild
and yeah, I'm sure that what's his name? The basket

(01:28:19):
of tennis? Oh yeah, it isn't just showing up with
autographed photographs. I'm sweetweed. Come on, man, at least seeds.
So we see again what's happening is that legislation is
typically outpaced by social evolution and technology. So is this

(01:28:41):
an artifact a at different time these sorts of laws?
And if so, what is what is the future? What?
What do you guys think? Is is it eventually going
to be nation wide? I think it will, and it's
gonna be like everything, It's going to be the dollars
that speak the loudest, right, they're going to realize that,
Oh my god, look at the tax revenue we can
get if we just realize this damn plant that has

(01:29:01):
never been a problem. And they all smoke it anyway
in Washington. So that looking the d C, it's it's
legal in a very city that makes the laws, and
there's no problems. We're not experiencing gang violence because of
pot those maniacs. Yeah. So you know, it's a so

(01:29:24):
this breed of you know, the old Nixon era and
everything just they just have to die out or at
the time of them dying out. Now, if humanity can
make it past this next three and a half years,
uh to where we'll be a more enlightened creature, hopefully
on the other side, and then maybe it'll all drop.
I really thought that that was should have been not
to get into politics, but that should have been Obama's

(01:29:46):
final thing. It's just going like it's legal and I'm
out of here so I can go puppa dube and Hawaii. Yeah.
Because typically regardless, yeah, regardless of their specific ideology. That
is the part where whoever the president at the very end,
they're like, I'm gonna pardon everybody. We're popping bottles. You
know what's legal now if you want to touch a

(01:30:07):
buffalo inappropriately, go for it. Amount It would be like
three guys like they're like, you know, I didn't like
him the first the first three years and eleven months,
but he really came through on that buffalo front. I'm
in looking a little buffalo sit out there and that
feel for quite some time, Like terr you hear about

(01:30:28):
the buffalo proclamation? Oh man, does you have to have
Southern accent? Was a genuine Montana accident? I will point oh,
oh man, you know, I bow to your knowledge of Montonese.
And uh, speaking of endings, I think unfortunately it's going
to be time for us to end the episode, but

(01:30:50):
not the show. We would like to first off, see
tell people where you can find and hear more from
the illustrious Lucky Yates basically on Twitter or Instagram. Follow
me at at Lucky Yates l U c K Y
y A t E s both wise are present and
find me locally if you're here in the Atlanta area

(01:31:11):
at Dad's Garage Theater performing the improvised comedy That is
a fun spot. Can you give us an update on
the building situation and stuff going on? What do you
mean that building that we own? The church? Yeah, yeah,
we have. We've converted a church and we're always looking,
of course for funding to build on so that we
can build, like our scenic guy, a shop so we
can make our sets not thirty miles away. Uh, come

(01:31:35):
on down to Dad's. You're can always volunteer if you
want to get to know the place. The shows for free,
and then you know it's fun. We're a big comedy
house in town. I had a wonderful experience there. I
saw Kevin McDonald from Kids in the He taught like
a master, like a like a sketch writing class, and
then he did stand up opening for the kids or

(01:31:58):
the folks that he taught that did their sketches they wrote,
and then close the show just answering any and all
questions the audience had about Kids in the Hall stuff,
just dished deep about kids at Hall, like talked about
Scott Thompson like catching himself on fire while naked cooking,
like all these amazing stories. And then he was like,
you know, it's not a huge space. It's very intimate.

(01:32:20):
All you know, just chairs and like it feels like
a small church kind of what's the word, like a
wreck room or something like that. And it was just
the most intimate, cool show I've ever been to. And
then kind of talked to Kevin after the show. It
was just a really nice guy. And so yeah, if
you're ever in Atlanta or you live in Atlanta, definitely
check out Dad's garage and let let us know if

(01:32:42):
you're going, because we might go with you. I used to, uh, I, uh, well,
I'll just keep a short anectode here. I used to
steal my parents car to go watch shows at Dad's garage.
It was, it was great. I'm very lucky I didn't
get caught because I did not have a life. Since

(01:33:03):
they know now my parents don't listen to this show.
Um last Yes, Season eight of Archer is available right
now on f X network somebody now or whatever you're
gonna it's all streaming somewhere. And then season nine apparently
is it gonna be around until we haven't announced. I
don't Yeah, I don't know. I don't know whether anybody

(01:33:25):
came up with that. I think it's Comic Con next week,
and I think we're announcing what the next season is
going to be, which I can't say here. Uh. And
then yeah, I have no idea, I don't know, du
no worries, but it will be. It would be on
the way. And we hope you enjoyed this, uh, this
discussion as much as we have. Thank you so much

(01:33:48):
for your time, lucky, Thank you. This is a dream. Yeah,
and we're going to head out. In the meantime, we
will be back next week with more strange, bizarre, disturbing,
what in a while enlightening things we got the shrug from.
We raised questions in order to get people's brains thinking,
right we do when we're doing our best, that's what

(01:34:11):
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