May 1, 2025 • 55 mins
Cake writes in with recommendations for Australian cinema. Spooky Pants prompts a conversation about the infamous Barksdale Bubble. Starship Home (aka Sugar Homie, aka Supercool Homie) prompts a far-reaching exploration of dictatorships, El Salvador, the US's responsibility for the booming illegal drug trade. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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twenty five. And what better way to welcome us all
to May than to talk a little bit about rootabagas.
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thanks to our super producer when we pitched him that
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that earlier this morning.
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Okay, oh okay, I wasn't there. Well well done, Dylan, and.
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We are also grateful for some folks we're gonna hear
from today. We're gonna you know, this is the point
where we take a little bit of space amid this
chaotic universe and check in with you the most important
part of the show. So, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist,
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We're going to talk a little bit about El Salvador.
We're going to examine allegations of weather manipulation. But before
we do any of that, I think we have to
bone up on our Australian cinema.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Bone up a team naming. Let's do it. Let's first
take a quick word and we have returned.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
And I believe we all collectively posed the question to
our lovely Australian listeners of what are some uh classics
of Australian cinema that we should check out? Guys, I'm
totally space cadeting on how that came up?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
What were we talking about?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
It was an Australian gentleman that like disappeared and he
was like a financier or something.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I'm so sorry. What was the deal?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
His name is Harold Hole. There's a memorial. Uh, there
are several memorials named after the man Prime Minister of
Australia disappeared in the water. As some of our aussy
listeners pointed out, it's kind of weird that there are
swimming pools named after him.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But what was What was his deal with the film
industry before? Was he like involved in it?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh, his dad was involved with some stuff in the
entertainment industry and then he ended up getting into some
of it too before he became Prime minister.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Gotten well, do check out that episode, though it seems
to have escaped me a we do so many of
these guys.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
But what the takeaway for me was is that we
don't know enough about Australian film and cinema. And I
even like in the moment, had a hard time producing
more than like three titles, and then after the fact
kind of remembered a few that I do know and love,
and we'll talk about those. But most importantly, we're going
to hear from Cake, a lovely Australian listener who writes
in Greetings Matt Ben and Nol Peter Weir is the
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Australian version nineteen seventies eighties Francis Ford Coppola. His films
include The Last Wave, Gallipoli, The Year of Living Dangerously,
and Picnic at Hanging Rock, among others. Other notable AUSSI
directors include George Miller of course we know George's work
and the Matt Max films, as well as Crazily Babe,
the Babe franchise and Happy feat The.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Guy's a real renaissance man.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
He's all over the Bagger. I like to think they
all happen in the same unit. It's a lovely thought,
yeah for sure, among others. And Kate goes on Jillian Armstrong,
My brilliant career and The Handmaid's Tale. Yeah, and that
would be the nineteen ninety film version of The Handmaid's Tale,
well before the very popular TV series.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
By the way, have you read Slash? Do you know?
A nonfiction book called A Woman?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I Know?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's written by Mary Haverstick and tells the story of
Cold War era female aviation pioneer Jerry Cobb, who was
or not also a CIA operative in Cuba in the
early nineteen sixties and who may or may not have
been in Dallas the day President Kennedy was assassinated. Jerry's
identities and her real and assumed names are mind bending.
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This book is a wild ride, Ben Matt, I posit
we do an episode on this. I don't know this
story and I certainly don't think we have delved into
it in the past.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I don't know this at all, just looking at
the book for the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, I don't know Mary Haverstick from a can of paint.
So this is going to be a fascinating thing to
learn more about. We love a good book recommendation A
woman I know his new to us cake. Thank you
so much. Also thanks to everyone who has taken some
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time to teach us about Australia. As you guys know,
I have over the monitor here, I have a map
of Australia and I've started putting little pins in the map.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So thank you keg for the recommendation of the book
and a future episode topic. And also for those films
I'm familiar with, Picnic at Hanging Rock, which the Guardian
calls a dazzling fever dream that is still relevant fifty
years on. Peter Ware's nineteen seventy five parable of Imperial
Anxiety and Sexual Hysteria was recently re released for its
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fiftieth anniversary and is considered a classic of Australian new
wave cinema. So I definitely want to dig into that.
One that I wanted to mention that I think I've
mentioned to you guys off air after the fact was
the film Animal Kingdom, which is a believe a true
of a notable Australian crime family starring Jackie Weaver.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I want to say it got some also Joel.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Edgerton, isn't it but it is an Australian film.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That it's called.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
It considered a gritty Australian crime film in which young
Joshua J. Cody is taken in by his extended family
after his mother dies of an overdose. The branch of
the Cody clan, overseen by Jay's scheming grandmother Janine played
by Jackie Weaver, who's excellent and I believe either got
nominated or won an Oscar for this role, is heavily
involved in various criminal activities and they quickly indoctrinate the
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boy into their way of life. However, Jay is given
an opportunity to take a different route when a.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Cop is too much information.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Guy Peerce is in a cop named Lecky, seeks to
help him leave the family behind. So highly recommend that
one and another one called The Proposition. There is another
Australian filmmaker who I realized I do know and enjoy,
John Hillicote, who has done a lot of kind of
Australian westerns, Lawless The Proposition, which I think is great.
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He's apparently been in the works on a film adaptation
of Blood Meridian by Cormick McCarthy for a long time,
which is always I think, Ben, you've described it as
one of those novels that's sort of considered unfilmable, you know,
because there's so much eternal monologue and the writing is
such a part of it, Like it's got this weird
kind of biblical language and very unusual structure to it.
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One of your favorite villains I think in literature been
the Judge.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Isn't that right? Absolutely or what's his name judge something old?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah, Yeah, apparently a real piece of work, an absolute
sadist and psychopathic character. Obviously, McCarthy is known for a
lot of things, but I think most popularly not punctuation.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Ever, he writes in this flowy, stream.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Of consciousness way.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
He did, of course No Country for Old Men, which
is one of my favorite films of all time with
the Coen Brothers and The Road, which is also directed
by John Hillicote. The proposition is also scored by Nick Cave,
who is a famous Australian artist, along with his partner
Warren Ellis. Not to be confused with the comic book
writer Warren Ellis, who I believe is known for trans Metropolitan,
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But Warren Ellis the musician, is also in a band
called the Dirty Six or the Dirty three one of
those numbers, and is an excellent composer who works alongside
Nick Cave all the time. So the score is worth
the price of admission alone on that. But it's also
a super cool, gritty western that takes place in the outback,
and there's this period period piece about that era, something
they don't not always think about.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But there is a wild West in Australia as well.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Are a wild West type scenario real quickly, just want
to rattle off. I found a list of the top
one hundred greatest films of Australia cinema on AMTB.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
There's a couple that I recognize, like.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Priscilla Queen of the Desert and Let's see Babe of
course and Matt Max etc. But there's I mean, there
are tons, of course there are what is number exactly
ninety eight, Thank you Ben. I don't know that they're
ranked by best. I think that maybe are Let's see
ninety eight is Wolf Creek, which I've heard of. It
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is a hellish Australian outback kind of like the Hills
Have Eyes type situation where apparently some backpackers who are
stranded and the Australian outback are stalked and tortured psychologically,
and I believe there's some torture porny type stuff in
it too by.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
A sadistic psychopathic local.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Also, The Year of Living Dangerously is a by Peter
Ware that was mentioned by Cake, starring Mel Gibson and
Sigourney Weaver. A young Australian reporter tries to navigate the
political turmoil of Indonesia during the rule of President Sakarno
with the help of a diminutive photographer.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I love you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Throw out another number let's throw out a few more
numbers and then we'll make this play short love it fifteen.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Number fifteen is.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
See the Boys nineteen ninety eight, Yeah, by Rowan Woods,
the director, starring David Wenhem Tony Collette, who is Australian.
I always forget Tony Collette of many things fame, but
specifically I think we all love her in Hereditary as
well as Lynette Current I'm not familiar. After serving time
for assault violent parole, Brett Sprague returns to his family home.
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As tensions rise between Brett and his brother Stevie and Glenn.
Over twenty four hours, dark events begin to unfold The
Boys from nineteen ninety eight Rated R and then the
last but not least, I wanted to mention number sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Okay, let's do it. Thanks Maddie, good call. You had
to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We had one always has nice. That's the end of
that one.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
The number sixty eight, Oh, Matt crazy. You know what
number sixty nine is. It's Picnic at Hanging Rock, the one,
the one of the ones that our listener wrote in
that about and that I was just looking up. It's
the one that's considered dazzling and relevant fifty years on
Picnic at Hanging Rock, directed by Peter Weir.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's so cool, Matt, Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Right before that is a popular one that I also
it's New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It is kind of considered.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I don't know, that might be very controversial to Australians.
But it's the Piano by Jane Campion, who is a
New Zealand filmmaker. I know that's not an Australian filmmaker,
but it is on this list on IMDb, so I
don't know, take it up with IMDb. But the last thing,
there's a TV series that I really love that I
want to say. We've talked about that. Maybe one of
you two have seen, is called Myster in Between. It
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is an Australian crime series about a dude who is
a hit man for like an organized crime entity in Australia.
But it's also just like a dad and just doing
regular stuff, you know. And it's said it's very like
the Sopranos in that respect. It very much shows like
the human aspect of someone who is ultimately a pretty
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tough customer.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You what are you gasping about, Matt?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I've seen clip a clip maybe or clips of this.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You love it.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's breaking bad level good. I really think it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I believe it's the actor Scott who plays maybe the
main person show. Well I've seen. I just clicked on
the IMDb page and saw his face and he's holding
an ice cream YEP with I guess his daughter and
a young girl. And I just remember that scene when
he confronts the dudes were not very nice.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
He definitely kicks some mass and takes some names, but
it's a very human story. He has a father who
is I believe going through dementia the early stages of
dementia or no, maybe that's not true.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You know what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
That's not what it is. Excuse me, no, that is
part of it.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But he also has a brother who has I believe,
cerebral palsy, and the actor who plays his brother actually
has cerebral palsy. And it's an incredible performance that as
individual who is cast appropriately, I would say in a
time where you know, I mean, it's controversial I think
sometimes to talk about how only individuals with certain conditions
or you know, who present certain ways should be cast,
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I don't necessarily come down on one side or other
of that, but I do think it's really interesting to
see someone who actually has that condition portraying character who
has that condition.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And we've also just ordered a copy of a woman
I know female Spies double Identities, and a news story
of the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, amazing. Thank you for doing that, Ben. I just
found a connection here that I did not know existing,
and maybe you didn't know either. There is a two
thousand and five film starring Scott Ryan, the guy who
plays Ray in Between Ray yep, it is called The Magician,
and he plays a character named Ray Shuesmith, who is
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a volatile, caring and ruthless hit man.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So Ray, No that is based that's the same name.
It's the same character, Ray Shu Smith, who is in
the Mystery Between. The Magician was a precursor to that series.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, I remember there's a universe here, guys.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's a love world building.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
If you want to learn about Mad Max, you got
to start with Babe.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The movie Babe exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
And lastly, I just wanted to mention one more that
I had on my list that I have seen. It's
been a long time very difficult film to watch. Based
on a true story. It's called The Snowtown Murders, and
if I'm not mistaken, we have talked about the true
crime story. This film is based on sixteen year old
Jamie falls in with his mother's new boyfriend and his
crowd of self appointed neighborhood watchman, a relationship that leads
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to a spree of torture and murder. It's literally, I think,
the most famous serial killer story out of Australia, and
I think the movie is quite quite well done, but
it is a challenging watch, so.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Huge thanks to Cake.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
We're going to take a quick break, hear a word
from our sponsor, and then we back with some more
messages from you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And we've returned. Guys. Yes, we are taking a little
trip to a cool part of the United States that
I've never been to, but I look forward to going
one day. I wonder if you guys have been around here.
Have you guys ever been to like Shreveport or.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I was just talking about that with somebody there.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I've only been to New Orleans and Louisiana, but I
know some people from Shreveport.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Actually, I I uh, something like me has been there,
but it goes by Peter the Roman.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Okay, Peter the Roman.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Interesting, Nice is Peter here with us?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Now? So looms large at what level of you know,
it's like hiking easter eggs? Like how how far in
the grass do you put them?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Peter the Golden egg?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, right, you know? Or is he like number one thirteen? Anyway, nice,
always have to say nice. So Shreveport is in Peter
the Romans experience, uh, a beautiful but imperfect place. And
there's a lot of interesting government activity.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Ooh yeah. So let's get to that. This area of
the United States is also known as Arcla Tech. You
may know a town that's right. I guess it's just
to the west of this area called Texarcana, which is
really cool. And why would it be named that, Well,
it's because it's kind of the border between Texas, Arkansas,
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and Louisiana all there together in one little corner. I
guess it's the northwest corner of Louisiana, is the way
you'd say. It just to the west Texas, just in
the north Arkansas. And there's this thing called the Red
River that runs between Shreveport and Bowser City, which is
just on the east Shreveport there on the west. And
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there's this other place, guys, when we're talking about government
activity in the area called Barksdale Air Force Base used
to be known as Barksdale Field. That's before the Air
Force became a thing. And guys, it's twenty two thousand
acres of land. Twenty two thousand.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Acres or is it like for sale.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Or no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Hang on, I'll pull it up zillow.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Okay. So the reason why it's not for sale is
because Barksdale Air Force Base is extremely important to the
United States as kind of a thing. It's I'm going
to read from their website. It's an award winning base
that's home to warrior airmen of the second Bomb Wing,
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air Force Global Strike Command, eighth Air Force, and the
three hundred and seventh Bomb Wing. It's also host to
mission partners dedicated to quote providing nuclear deterrence, combat power,
and combat support anytime anywhere. Tight like dominoes, like dominoes,
just like dominoes, but with nukes, dominiques. There we go,
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We got there, we got there. And this is this
is the most important part. The second Bomb Wing is
the the host unit of Barksdale Air Force Base. I
don't know what that means. Do you guys know what
the host unit means? Maybe the most crucial part of
the air Force base, perhaps, but it is one of
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only two B fifty two Strato Fortress bomber bases in
the Air Force. Now, a while ago we talked about
strato fortresses. What those guys are the giant B fifty
two bombers that actually carry nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
When they need to be carry the sky?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh yeah, Chonky boys in the sky.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yes, I thought she said chalky boys in disguise and
I was picturing a Transformers type scenario.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
But it's both of these ideas.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So why are we talking about these chonky boys. Well,
we got a message from Spooky Pan and we're gonna
listen to it right now.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Hey, guys, my name is Spitch Bands. There's a thing
called the bark Still Bubble. Bark Still Air Force Space
in Boucher City, Louisiana. I live across the river in Streatport.
Is the home to all our nuclear weapons, aside from
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Kirtland Air Force Space in New Mexico and Abuquerque. But
you know what the thing is. The thing is is
that no bad weather ever happens over our area to
persuade anything from the B fifty two's coming back. It's
called the bark Still bubble. So I'd love it if
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you guys kind of investigated the bark Still bubble. Love
you show, Love you guys. Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Hey, first off, there nuclear weapons everywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, well that so that's the thing, spooky Pants. Barksdale
is home to the Chonky boys that carry the nukes,
the certain nukes. But then they're nukes chilling everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
But in a way, yeah, spooky Pants, you're you're absolutely correct. Uh,
there has been from my understanding at least bet there
has been a lot of speculation over the years regarding
possible I guess meteorological anomalies would be a word for it,
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or a phrase like the pattern, just like you're describing
spooky Pants, the idea that the weather seems somehow courteous. Guys.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Yeah, you know, this reminds me of there's a character
in the movie Waiting for Guffman that David Cross plays
is like a UFO expert, and he's talking about have
been coming to this circle in Blaine, Indiana for five
years and sorry Missouri and measuring it. The diameter and
there's circumference always constantly changed, but the radius stays the
same once you go into that circle.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
The weather never changes. It is always sixty seven degrees
with a forty percent chance of rain. WHOA, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I wonder if they're inspired by this, this bubble that
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, interestingly enough, this Barksdale bubble thing really arises in
the nineties, the mid nineties to be precise, when a
little thing called Doppler radar shows up out there near
the Barksdale Air Force Base. And we'll get into that,
but first of all, if you go on a little
hunt for this thing called the Barksdale bubble that Spooky
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Pants describes, you're gonna find a lot of stuff. One
thing you're gonna find is a beer from Great Raft
Brewing on Shreveport. According to Untapped quote, this IPA is
a thick, juicy, tropical fruit bomb, which is very exciting.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Okay, okay, okay, yes, Love, you got your back. What
is untapped?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Untapped is a great website that reviews beers. It's like
crowdsourced beer reviews. It's pretty cool, actually.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
All right, well, they sound like they're they're legit, so.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
They're so legit. Great raft also, according to Untapped, has
a black lagger that I desperately want to try, called
reasonably corrupt. It sounds very, very fun and I like
their style over there at Great Rafts alright. Also, guys,
Barksdale Bubble. It's a band, no you can find Yeah,
you can find them at the Barksdale Bubble dot com.
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According to that site, this band is a quote electrifying
fusion of powerhouse female vocals and searing guitar solos.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It features bandmates Chris Fomo, Hirsh, Gabby Ray, Tim Not
the director, Burton, Chris count Me and Robinson a k a.
The unfairly photogenic botanist.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
What characters that's up there with those Australian IMDb film description.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Absolute exactly, Yes, definitely all right.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
So it feels like we solved it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, we solved it. But one of the last things
you're gonna find are several Facebook groups, several places on Reddit,
and several I guess just off the beaten path websites
that are discussing this anomaly, if you will. The nice
weather that appears above Barksdale all the time. There are
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so many screenshots of the Doppler radar above Barksdale showing
a ring of green or red or just bad stuff happening.
And then right in the center near where the Air
Force base is nothing just clear skies at least according
to the.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Radar beyond a matrix dodge.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Oh yeah, like as in, something's going on down here.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Okay, So so it is sideways around a certain perimeter,
but within that perimeter it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, everything looks good, especially if you are a weatherman
and you've got one of those green screens behind you
and you're pointing out, you know, places where it's getting
real bad. Free for it. Oh my gosh, this is
not good. Guys, everybody hunker down. Oh wait, there's this
one little nice look at that, so clear and calumn
right there. Okay, So who else do we go to
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to figure out what this is? Then? A weatherman. His
name is Andrew Brightman circa twenty twenty one. In April,
he was a weatherman for KSLA News twelve, and he
put out just some of the best reporting I've seen
in a long time, guys of the weather variety. I
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linked to it in here. You can find it right now.
You can really just search Barksdale Bubble KSLA. But the
title is Barksdale Bubble explaining the legend of the weather
manipulation device protecting Barksdale Air Force Base in this report guys,
which the video appears to be straight out of our
(26:03):
YouTube channel. I don't know if Andrew watches or it
just likes the same stuff we like. Whatever it is,
it's amazingly produced and it goes through it. It's talking
to a bunch of people, like radio local radio folks,
local people from Barksdale, people like from the air Force
base who are actually in the control tower there talking
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to everybody about this weird anomaly and all of the
theories that surround it about maybe it really is some
kind of manipulation device to protect certain parts of the
air Force base that's not too outside of what we
know can happen. We've talked about weather manipulation on the
show before, but it's generally about the most common thing
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is cloud seating, where you can encourage weather to like
maybe move in a certain way by creating the right
situation for moisture to generate in one area rather than another.
And then depending on you know, the wind patterns, you
can kind of manipulate the weather to be better in
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one area by making it rain earlier before it gets
to you or after it gets to you, Right, that's
kind of the idea. Well, guys. In this report, Andrew
makes the following statement that we're going to play in
just a moment based on a couple of things. Specifically,
one of the things we mentioned earlier here that Doppler
radar was installed in the mid nineteen nineties in the
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area and this bubble has been seen since then. Andrew
describes a little flaw in Doppler radar that we need
to be aware of because it may just explain what
this bubble is. So let's go to Andrew.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Sometimes, when we freeport Boser, there's dry air close to
the ground and rain high in the atmosphere that evaporates
before reaching Earth, but the Doppler's beam still picks up
that prepation recording it has a green image on the
radar screen. However, close to the tower, the Doppler has
an almost circular blind spot that fails to see high
(28:10):
atmospheric rain close to the tower, creating a mirage making
it look like it's raining and storming around Streamport, Bosire
while Marchdale remains sunny and dry.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So it really does make sense when when you hear
Andrew explain it. So I don't efficiently, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Accurately, Yeah, non b.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Exactly, but it is so great that he couches that
little nugget of information inside this piece that feels like
an unsolved mystery episode just to give you just the facts. Hey,
sometimes it appears as though there's nothing going on here,
but it's literally because the radar can't see it, and
because it's not actually raining right there, it's picking up
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the weather that's happening above the dry air.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And you know, another interesting thing about this, you guys
and spooky pants in specific here is that despite the
advent of Doppler radar as a technology being relatively recent
in its rollout to the public, we do know there's
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like a century worth of somewhat reliable data about weather patterns.
So it will be interesting also to look at just
the region right the overall climate of this Reveport area
there in a pretty pretty cool part of the United
(29:40):
States actually, and see if maybe there are accounts of
some kind of sacro sanct area. Maybe there are accounts
of just regular rain. I don't know. Man, Well it's tough.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I can't recommend everybody watched that video more because right
at the end, after you know, talking about all the
theories and all of that stuff, Andrew makes that explanation
and then goes to the other parts of those interviews
where it's people from the Air Force base saying, oh, yeah, dude,
we've we've fought all kinds of insane weather on the
Air Force base. It's it is, we get the exact
(30:18):
same weather that everybody else gets in this area. Uh no,
they basically you know, and you got to take the
the Air Force base personnel at their word.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But you know, yeah, but I'm just I'm laughing because
now I'm picturing some guy who is just a hapless
mechanic it has to, you know, constantly be doing maintenance
on these vehicles. And just how pissed that guy must
be at the radar boys, you know what I mean,
(30:51):
He's like, these did these drips? You know, I don't
know how they curse nowadays, drips bills eel, I.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Have no idea. In the end, it's all to protect
the Chalky boys. I'm going to think about that all day, guys.
In other Andrew Brightman News, it was his last day
back in twenty twenty two, on August fifth, at least
according to this other video on KSLA News, he moved
over to Charlotte, North Carolina and is now working for
(31:24):
Queen City News. But major shout out to you, Andrew Brightman.
We we like your style.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, agreed, also Jim Yeah, oh, I love when people
say cut of your jip. We should have a we
should have a green screen. I'm gonna pitch you guys
a video. What if we do like weather, weatherman meteorologists stuff,
but instead of the weather, we predict conspiracies on the
(31:52):
green screen.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I love it, I love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We got a real heavy Barksdale bubble move in its way,
George Charlotte. Uh, by the way, being named bright Man
and like you're a weatherman that's determined. Come on incredible.
Uh So, Hey, spooky Pants, we hope we didn't burst
your bark Stale bubble too much here, but we do.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We highly highly appreciate you calling in letting us know.
I believe former Atlantean. According to another part of Spooky
Pants's messages. I think at some people do this. They'll
they'll call in, leave a message and then forget to
like give permission in that message, then call back and
(32:41):
do a second one. I think it was the second
message that just said, oh, by the way, I'm former Atlantean.
You can use my message.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
All are welcome, just like the ghost said in Poltergeist.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Do you go into the light or don't go into
the light. You don't go, okay, you don't go into
the light.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
It if you do go into the light, ty rope
around your waist and have somebody hold it outside of
the right in case they need to read it again.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And get the guy who is in that sitcom coach.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
There you go, There you go.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
House is clear. That very interesting looking lady. I love
that movie.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I loved her. Her tender was crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Jesus, you know what she wore, spooky pants. All right,
be right back. After a word from our sponsor, let's
do it.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
And we have returned with just a little bit of errata,
some addendans erotica. I am in your head. I know.
We'll open with a letter from uh, from a guy
I want to workshop nicknames with. We'll call him s
(33:55):
H for doubt. All right, but this is a response
to some uh can kay's we've had regarding the ongoing
situation with innocent residents of the United States and getting
black bagged out to El Salvador.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Okay, all right, don't like that.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Carry on, yeah, yeah, we always start off with the
light stuff, right, So, okay, hello, stuff. They don't want
you to know. I enjoy your podcast hard period. I've
found your discussion on L. Salvador prisons to be interesting.
I've driven from California to Panama on several occasions. I
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intentionally avoided going through L. Salvador because at the time
it was the most dangerous country in Central America, which also,
by the way, sh tells us a little bit about
when you were driving. Sah continues, it's now one of
the safest countries. Before Bukele became president of the country
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was overrun by criminal gangs who committed murders and extor
on much of the population. After having built the prison
you were speaking of on your podcast and locking up
the criminals and gang members, the number of murders in
the country has dropped down to below that of Canada.
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Most of the citizens of El Salvador says a sh
love what Bukele has done for their country and would
re elect him in a heartbeat. And many other countries
in Latin America would like to duplicate El Salvador's success
in reducing crime and the influence of the drug cartels.
Now let's pause here for a second, because this feels
(35:41):
like a really important point. Guys. We've heard of We've
heard of dictators or authoritarians or even fascists who are
lauded by the domestic population because they are seen as
cutting past the red tape, right, they're like cracking down
(36:03):
on crime.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I'm thinking of Libya in particular, where we heard pretty
historic levels of approval basically back in the day before
the you know, their leader was sir you know, I
was gonna say unceremoniously murdered, but there was quite a
bit of ceremony in.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
That before Gaddafi tried to start a African version of
a euro.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Or in Venezuela, there was a
really high approval rating that was at least reported, right
and if oh my gosh, guys, I just I found
I found something. It's El Salvador in English dot.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Com and this is legit.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, it says President Bukelia achieves historic ninety one percent
global approval rating.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Wow global? Yeah all right, yeah yeah yeah yeah, shout
out to Flabir Putin. Sure. But that I mean, there
is an argument there that has a lot of validity,
is there not the idea that, look, you're you're growing
up in a place where things stink, right, Shelter is
(37:26):
a concern. Rule of law is a concern. Law enforcement
officials are easily corruptible. They may be the criminals they're
supposed to be looking for, you know what I mean,
Like they may be the hot dog guy and that
Tim Robinson sketch and down right right now you have
a guy who comes in and says, forget due process.
(37:48):
We know who the bad guys are, you know, let's
crack down on them. We can see logically how you
you would support that, you know what I mean. You
might say, I will sacrifice some of my rights, some
of my liberty in return for safety. And that seems
to be a somewhat fauski embargain, but it's one that
(38:10):
has occurred throughout history. Anyway, we're editorializing, Shu continue and
you say a very important point that adds to this.
You continue, the United States and Europe are the largest
consumers of cocaine and other illegal drugs. True, and as
such we bear shs US national by the way, and
(38:35):
as such, we bear much of the responsibility for the
situation of crime and human suffering in these Latin American countries.
We have an obvious choice in our country to either
stop using illegal drugs or make them legal. It's something
we've talked about on the show.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Right, you can't use illegal drugs if they are in
fact legal.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh, that's perfect, Olla, that's really good. It's beautiful. So
l Salvador, sh continues, is not a rich country, and
the temptation to make a quick buck in the illegal
drug trade is irresistible to many young people. Obviously that
happens here. To decide to lock up all the gang
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members involved in this illegal trade is not the best solution.
Unless we here in the United States accept responsibility for
the illegal drug market, it will be the favored method.
Locking people up will be the favored method to resolve
this tragic situation. Thank you for the podcast. SH. So,
(39:45):
First things first, good monikers for SH. I'm thinking, Wow,
all my ideas are pretty terrible.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Right now, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Untrue?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Get out of here?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh jeez, Well, we'll go with SH if anybody wants
to give a good solution a good moniker. If s
H were a series of initials, what would SH stand
for Starship Home? That's cool? You know we've been talking
(40:24):
about space.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Sugar Homie, Sugar Homie, Salvadorian.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Hero, Salvadorian Hero. Yeah, I like that. And as usually
happens in these recordings, folks, about three or four minutes
after we wrap the show, Dylan is gonna hit us
with the best one. Usually usually you know, he'll dig
that route of bega. So the question, as we as
(40:54):
we end here, before we move on real quick, what
what do we think would happen if the United States
slice the Achilles heel of the cartel Orge? But yeah,
by just by just making these various substances legal.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
I've always I've often thought about that, like, like, would
it be an immediate fix?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I don't know, it seems more complicated than that.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
What do you guys think what they'd pivot right, and
the cartels would pivot yeah, deep into avocados.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Right now. We talked about that previously they're diversifying their portrait.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Probably are like a lot of big media conglomos who
realize that a certain technology is maybe starting to go
the way of the dinosaur, or a certain type of distribution,
perhaps like radio into podcasting, for example.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I'm trying to wax my mustache when you say that, Noel,
so that I look a little more like the guy
with the two he's got the vaccine.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
It looks good, man. I like it. You should rock
that to.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Me from.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Some evil mustachio waxy. Leave it in no space, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It does well. You guys tell me, maybe I'm really wrong.
We've talked about it so many times. It does at
this point feel like my thoughts on it are solidified.
If you legalized the drug trade, black markets would just
shift and there would be a lot more human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
There would be a little more of the other trafficking.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, there would be other stuff, right, And if you
legalize maybe the sex trade, then maybe human trafficking starts
to change and it really does become the kind of
indentured servitude stuff that we just talked about.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I think it was last listener mail about people being
shipped in from Asian countries to work basically in sweatshops
here in the US and other places like that. So
you're like, if you change, if you make a legal
market for something, there's no real gain to the black
(42:58):
market stuff, right, Yana the same way.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I mean, it's a pickle, right, because the main thing
in these conversations about legal or illegal is that no
one at the top level, no one should be stupid.
There should not be a chump. It's okay to be evil,
It's bad to be dumb. Uh. It is the way
the like the rationale or the discourse takes place. So
(43:24):
to that point, you know, you you're playing whack a mole, right,
You're you're saying this thing is fine, and then a
criminal organization, unless they want to move to like a
regional or state level power, they'll find the next illegal
thing because the profit margins are just just high enough,
(43:46):
you know what I mean. So like, well, and you're not.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
The the anti tax incentives, right, I.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
Mean, that's a part of it, right, It's like a
tax free business.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
It's a tax free industry.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
That's what we got to find is more ways to
shelter our earnings from the taxman.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Their HR sucks. But yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Well it's interesting how the market shifts for things. So
driving around where I live now, and I'd be curious
to know if this is y'all's experience too. In most
gas stations that are not like a major brand like
a QT, sure you will find a ton of quote
THHC products, Yes, like a ton. I didn't even realize how.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Their Delta nine though their analogs, their loophole products they are.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
But they are all THC products and they're everywhere, so
it just and they are. They must be purchased all
the time, or else there wouldn't be so many of
them in so many stores.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Right.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
So in New York City, up until recently when they
cracked down on this because of like legalization finally rolling
out properly, all the bodegas sold actual cannabis under the table.
That is no longer possible because the government there in
New York City literally cracked down and went from door
to door and shut a lot of these operations down.
So you know, you really can only buy it through
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legal means. But before that it was a real Wild
West situation.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
But I guess all, I'm yeah, no, I hear you
all I'm trying to say is I think the market
ends up finding away with a lot of that kind
of stuff, And it does feel like if there was
just a bigger push to just get that stuff out there,
and it's in a product you can buy that isn't
crazy expensive, then it does change. I don't know if
(45:34):
there's all the moral arguments, right, you can't allow that
to happen, right.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, But also cocaine brought to you on a subscription
model by Unilever, you know what I mean, subsidiary of
Hulu or what have you. I don't know how long
we're gonna I don't know how many shots I can
fire before we get fired, but we do have. We
(45:58):
do have further conversations in this light, you know. And
I love the shout out to I love the shout
out to independently owned gas stations. We know there's a huge,
ethically fraught petroleum industry that does a lot of dirt,
for sure, and also moves the world. But what I
(46:19):
love about the small I don't know if this is
maybe just a US thing or maybe just a Southern
US thing, but what I love about independent gas stations
in this part of the world is they will try anything.
I saw a bitcoin at everywhere.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
I mean, you know, what's funny you say that, But
I was thinking about that.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
They obviously are no longer whoever invested in those for
these gas stations, I don't think they're getting their money
money as.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Well, Yes, because their rate of attrition with weird ideas
is so high, you know what I mean. Like, if
you want to find forget the made first TV stuff,
go find the shadiest gas station in your neighborhood and
look on the backshelf. I guarantee you they've got something weird.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Have we talked about how they get away with having
these little gambling rooms too? Like these there's some of
the same machines you'll see in Vegas. But I'm very
confused as to why folks are posted up there.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
What are they getting?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Hey, Like you said you were going to be Is
that what it meant?
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yes, okay, it is okay.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
There was a restaurant right near me that had a
whole room in the back and if you won anything there,
it was like getting a gift card for the restaurant.
But you're spending a crapload of money trying to make
some money.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Machines you can also do. Oh man, all right, that's it,
it's done. We're doing a gas station episode. Yes, we're
doing a gain stuff they don't want you to know
about gas stations brought to you.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
But also, is it worth it to buy your gas
at cost co. I've seen a lot of differing opinions
as to whether that's a subscription service there versus how
much you pay for the game versus how much you're
paying for groceries actually amounts to you getting a deal.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
So I don't know, it's something that might be worth that.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
That's great, Yeah, let's put that in there. Also, obviously
shout out to everybody who just felt a little bit
snooty when they heard us talking and said, you know,
the way to save money is to take a bag
of loose diamonds and just buy the tanker.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, or the Pokemon cards that you keep in the
same case as the.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Loose diamonds, right right right, So heist decide. We're going
to end with just a few quick clarifications needs to
be said. First off, thank you to everyone who wrote
in we mentioned this in an episode or previous recording.
Menstruation and the moon are not related. The passage of
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the passage of the moon does not affect menstruation according
to current studies. That's a piece of information that needs
to be further out into the water world. Another important one.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Wait, I feel like we've talked about that before on
the show how.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
We had Maybe we must have, but I also probably
brought up that I thought that they were I do
remember recently in our astrology discussions, we were talking about
ways of justifying how astrology might actually correlate with real stuff,
and we had a listener right in I think I said,
I repeated that perhaps let's call it a what would.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
You call it, guys? Yeah, yeah, technically fact is something
that sounds like a fact. And I'm guilty of repeating them.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
I know so.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
But you are not alone. You are not alone. This
is here's a mea culpa on my part. We had
a conversation recently where we talked about flotsam versus jetsam,
and I said, oh, man, flotsam floats and jetsam sinks.
While that is not entirely incorrect, the important thing to
(49:52):
know and please merchant marines stop sending the emails flotsam
and jetsam are describing different types of debris or trash.
So flotsam is the stuff you lose. It's not deliberately
thrown overboard. So like a cargo ship amid the dangerous
(50:15):
waters in a storm in the Pacific because they don't
have the Barkstelle bubble when they lose a container ship,
that's flotsam.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Or a shipwreck or something right, right, or.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
A shipwreck or something. Yeah, And if you are in
a hurry, just you've gotten some situations on the water
and you got to throw some stuff out, that's jetsam.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
So is that like is that like? I'm sorry, I'm
just going to my mind to like a science fiction
story where the spaceship it needs to offload some weight
for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
I figure, Like remember that time, you guys we were
trying to we had to commandeer that helicopter and there
wasn't enough room.
Speaker 5 (51:01):
By the way, did you see that crazy helicopter crash
in New York over the Hudson or like it literally
fell out of the sky. Friend of mine sent that
to me and just said, like, never flying in a
helicopter ever, not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
I don't know, man, flying a plane is like learning
Mandarin but flying a helicopters like learning cantonates.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Ben, I don't remember the helicopter thing you're talking about,
but I do remember way back in the day we
shot Raven Oh. I think they were called like Raven
two's or something at the at a local airport way
back in the day. I think you and I are
both there, maybe with Marshall.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Nice Marshall wow from earlier. Yes, we have a we
have a lot of I have a lot of weird stories.
Maybe at some point the the four of us should
get together and write them down, or rather the five
of us including you as well. With these corrections, these
(52:03):
letters from home, we're getting a note from our producer
that this is the close of our listener mail. So
big thanks to Kate, Big, thanks to spooky Pants, big,
thanks to sh That is our sugar homie, starship Home.
What's a Salvador and hero and super cool? Super cool? Hang,
(52:23):
that's the love, thank you, that's the most important one.
So we're going to pause, We're going to noctivigate. We
hope this podcast finds you well and we'd love for
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the time. Chef Ben gave us a recipe that we
all need to listen to. Yes for curry chicken salad.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
That sounds great.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
I've been literally was just talking yesterday about how I
need to get into chicken salad, and this sounds like
just the ticket for me.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Dude. Basically, what Chef Ben says is make curry chicken
and then get it in the fridge overnight. After you know,
you eat your curry chicken meal, then your leftovers. You
add some mayo and some other things to it, including
I think it was golden raisin, crunches and red onions,
and you make a glorious curry chicken Saladazy.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
And if we can do one thing, we'll have to beat.
This joke is just for you, chef. How you been so?
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We love those kinds of things, and you can send
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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Max,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
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the first to welcome you to Thursday, May first, twenty
twenty five. And what better way to welcome us all
to May than to talk a little bit about rootabagas.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Why not? Yes, my best one, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I was swaying hypnotically in my sees.
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I am pumped you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sound c you for like applause for Dylan, whether you're
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us please note that is a pretty fire, pretty hot
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thanks to our super producer when we pitched him that
idea of Mortal Kombat. Ruda Bega response, Yeah, I remember
that earlier this morning.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay, oh okay, I wasn't there. Well well done, Dylan, and.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We are also grateful for some folks we're gonna hear
from today. We're gonna you know, this is the point
where we take a little bit of space amid this
chaotic universe and check in with you the most important
part of the show. So, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist,
(02:27):
We're going to talk a little bit about El Salvador.
We're going to examine allegations of weather manipulation. But before
we do any of that, I think we have to
bone up on our Australian cinema.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Bone up a team naming. Let's do it. Let's first
take a quick word and we have returned.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
And I believe we all collectively posed the question to
our lovely Australian listeners of what are some uh classics
of Australian cinema that we should check out? Guys, I'm
totally space cadeting on how that came up?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
What were we talking about?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
It was an Australian gentleman that like disappeared and he
was like a financier or something.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I'm so sorry. What was the deal?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
His name is Harold Hole. There's a memorial. Uh, there
are several memorials named after the man Prime Minister of
Australia disappeared in the water. As some of our aussy
listeners pointed out, it's kind of weird that there are
swimming pools named after him.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But what was What was his deal with the film
industry before? Was he like involved in it?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Oh, his dad was involved with some stuff in the
entertainment industry and then he ended up getting into some
of it too before he became Prime minister.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Gotten well, do check out that episode, though it seems
to have escaped me a we do so many of
these guys.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
But what the takeaway for me was is that we
don't know enough about Australian film and cinema. And I
even like in the moment, had a hard time producing
more than like three titles, and then after the fact
kind of remembered a few that I do know and love,
and we'll talk about those. But most importantly, we're going
to hear from Cake, a lovely Australian listener who writes
in Greetings Matt Ben and Nol Peter Weir is the
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Australian version nineteen seventies eighties Francis Ford Coppola. His films
include The Last Wave, Gallipoli, The Year of Living Dangerously,
and Picnic at Hanging Rock, among others. Other notable AUSSI
directors include George Miller of course we know George's work
and the Matt Max films, as well as Crazily Babe,
the Babe franchise and Happy feat The.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Guy's a real renaissance man.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
He's all over the Bagger. I like to think they
all happen in the same unit. It's a lovely thought,
yeah for sure, among others. And Kate goes on Jillian Armstrong,
My brilliant career and The Handmaid's Tale. Yeah, and that
would be the nineteen ninety film version of The Handmaid's Tale,
well before the very popular TV series.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
By the way, have you read Slash? Do you know?
A nonfiction book called A Woman?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I Know?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's written by Mary Haverstick and tells the story of
Cold War era female aviation pioneer Jerry Cobb, who was
or not also a CIA operative in Cuba in the
early nineteen sixties and who may or may not have
been in Dallas the day President Kennedy was assassinated. Jerry's
identities and her real and assumed names are mind bending.
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This book is a wild ride, Ben Matt, I posit
we do an episode on this. I don't know this
story and I certainly don't think we have delved into
it in the past.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I don't know this at all, just looking at
the book for the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, I don't know Mary Haverstick from a can of paint.
So this is going to be a fascinating thing to
learn more about. We love a good book recommendation A
woman I know his new to us cake. Thank you
so much. Also thanks to everyone who has taken some
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time to teach us about Australia. As you guys know,
I have over the monitor here, I have a map
of Australia and I've started putting little pins in the map.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So thank you keg for the recommendation of the book
and a future episode topic. And also for those films
I'm familiar with, Picnic at Hanging Rock, which the Guardian
calls a dazzling fever dream that is still relevant fifty
years on. Peter Ware's nineteen seventy five parable of Imperial
Anxiety and Sexual Hysteria was recently re released for its
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fiftieth anniversary and is considered a classic of Australian new
wave cinema. So I definitely want to dig into that.
One that I wanted to mention that I think I've
mentioned to you guys off air after the fact was
the film Animal Kingdom, which is a believe a true
of a notable Australian crime family starring Jackie Weaver.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I want to say it got some also Joel.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Edgerton, isn't it but it is an Australian film.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That it's called.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
It considered a gritty Australian crime film in which young
Joshua J. Cody is taken in by his extended family
after his mother dies of an overdose. The branch of
the Cody clan, overseen by Jay's scheming grandmother Janine played
by Jackie Weaver, who's excellent and I believe either got
nominated or won an Oscar for this role, is heavily
involved in various criminal activities and they quickly indoctrinate the
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boy into their way of life. However, Jay is given
an opportunity to take a different route when a.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Cop is too much information.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Guy Peerce is in a cop named Lecky, seeks to
help him leave the family behind. So highly recommend that
one and another one called The Proposition. There is another
Australian filmmaker who I realized I do know and enjoy,
John Hillicote, who has done a lot of kind of
Australian westerns, Lawless The Proposition, which I think is great.
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He's apparently been in the works on a film adaptation
of Blood Meridian by Cormick McCarthy for a long time,
which is always I think, Ben, you've described it as
one of those novels that's sort of considered unfilmable, you know,
because there's so much eternal monologue and the writing is
such a part of it, Like it's got this weird
kind of biblical language and very unusual structure to it.
(08:26):
One of your favorite villains I think in literature been
the Judge.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Isn't that right? Absolutely or what's his name judge something old?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah, Yeah, apparently a real piece of work, an absolute
sadist and psychopathic character. Obviously, McCarthy is known for a
lot of things, but I think most popularly not punctuation.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Ever, he writes in this flowy, stream.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Of consciousness way.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
He did, of course No Country for Old Men, which
is one of my favorite films of all time with
the Coen Brothers and The Road, which is also directed
by John Hillicote. The proposition is also scored by Nick Cave,
who is a famous Australian artist, along with his partner
Warren Ellis. Not to be confused with the comic book
writer Warren Ellis, who I believe is known for trans Metropolitan,
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But Warren Ellis the musician, is also in a band
called the Dirty Six or the Dirty three one of
those numbers, and is an excellent composer who works alongside
Nick Cave all the time. So the score is worth
the price of admission alone on that. But it's also
a super cool, gritty western that takes place in the outback,
and there's this period period piece about that era, something
they don't not always think about.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But there is a wild West in Australia as well.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Are a wild West type scenario real quickly, just want
to rattle off. I found a list of the top
one hundred greatest films of Australia cinema on AMTB.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
There's a couple that I recognize, like.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Priscilla Queen of the Desert and Let's see Babe of
course and Matt Max etc. But there's I mean, there
are tons, of course there are what is number exactly
ninety eight, Thank you Ben. I don't know that they're
ranked by best. I think that maybe are Let's see
ninety eight is Wolf Creek, which I've heard of. It
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is a hellish Australian outback kind of like the Hills
Have Eyes type situation where apparently some backpackers who are
stranded and the Australian outback are stalked and tortured psychologically,
and I believe there's some torture porny type stuff in
it too by.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
A sadistic psychopathic local.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Also, The Year of Living Dangerously is a by Peter
Ware that was mentioned by Cake, starring Mel Gibson and
Sigourney Weaver. A young Australian reporter tries to navigate the
political turmoil of Indonesia during the rule of President Sakarno
with the help of a diminutive photographer.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I love you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Throw out another number let's throw out a few more
numbers and then we'll make this play short love it fifteen.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Number fifteen is.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
See the Boys nineteen ninety eight, Yeah, by Rowan Woods,
the director, starring David Wenhem Tony Collette, who is Australian.
I always forget Tony Collette of many things fame, but
specifically I think we all love her in Hereditary as
well as Lynette Current I'm not familiar. After serving time
for assault violent parole, Brett Sprague returns to his family home.
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As tensions rise between Brett and his brother Stevie and Glenn.
Over twenty four hours, dark events begin to unfold The
Boys from nineteen ninety eight Rated R and then the
last but not least, I wanted to mention number sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Okay, let's do it. Thanks Maddie, good call. You had
to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We had one always has nice. That's the end of
that one.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
The number sixty eight, Oh, Matt crazy. You know what
number sixty nine is. It's Picnic at Hanging Rock, the one,
the one of the ones that our listener wrote in
that about and that I was just looking up. It's
the one that's considered dazzling and relevant fifty years on
Picnic at Hanging Rock, directed by Peter Weir.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's so cool, Matt, Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Right before that is a popular one that I also
it's New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It is kind of considered.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I don't know, that might be very controversial to Australians.
But it's the Piano by Jane Campion, who is a
New Zealand filmmaker. I know that's not an Australian filmmaker,
but it is on this list on IMDb, so I
don't know, take it up with IMDb. But the last thing,
there's a TV series that I really love that I
want to say. We've talked about that. Maybe one of
you two have seen, is called Myster in Between. It
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is an Australian crime series about a dude who is
a hit man for like an organized crime entity in Australia.
But it's also just like a dad and just doing
regular stuff, you know. And it's said it's very like
the Sopranos in that respect. It very much shows like
the human aspect of someone who is ultimately a pretty
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tough customer.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You what are you gasping about, Matt?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I've seen clip a clip maybe or clips of this.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You love it.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's breaking bad level good. I really think it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I believe it's the actor Scott who plays maybe the
main person show. Well I've seen. I just clicked on
the IMDb page and saw his face and he's holding
an ice cream YEP with I guess his daughter and
a young girl. And I just remember that scene when
he confronts the dudes were not very nice.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
He definitely kicks some mass and takes some names, but
it's a very human story. He has a father who
is I believe going through dementia the early stages of
dementia or no, maybe that's not true.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You know what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
That's not what it is. Excuse me, no, that is
part of it.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But he also has a brother who has I believe,
cerebral palsy, and the actor who plays his brother actually
has cerebral palsy. And it's an incredible performance that as
individual who is cast appropriately, I would say in a
time where you know, I mean, it's controversial I think
sometimes to talk about how only individuals with certain conditions
or you know, who present certain ways should be cast,
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I don't necessarily come down on one side or other
of that, but I do think it's really interesting to
see someone who actually has that condition portraying character who
has that condition.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And we've also just ordered a copy of a woman
I know female Spies double Identities, and a news story
of the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, amazing. Thank you for doing that, Ben. I just
found a connection here that I did not know existing,
and maybe you didn't know either. There is a two
thousand and five film starring Scott Ryan, the guy who
plays Ray in Between Ray yep, it is called The Magician,
and he plays a character named Ray Shuesmith, who is
(14:34):
a volatile, caring and ruthless hit man.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So Ray, No that is based that's the same name.
It's the same character, Ray Shu Smith, who is in
the Mystery Between. The Magician was a precursor to that series.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, I remember there's a universe here, guys.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's a love world building.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
If you want to learn about Mad Max, you got
to start with Babe.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The movie Babe exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
And lastly, I just wanted to mention one more that
I had on my list that I have seen. It's
been a long time very difficult film to watch. Based
on a true story. It's called The Snowtown Murders, and
if I'm not mistaken, we have talked about the true
crime story. This film is based on sixteen year old
Jamie falls in with his mother's new boyfriend and his
crowd of self appointed neighborhood watchman, a relationship that leads
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to a spree of torture and murder. It's literally, I think,
the most famous serial killer story out of Australia, and
I think the movie is quite quite well done, but
it is a challenging watch, so.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Huge thanks to Cake.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
We're going to take a quick break, hear a word
from our sponsor, and then we back with some more
messages from you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And we've returned. Guys. Yes, we are taking a little
trip to a cool part of the United States that
I've never been to, but I look forward to going
one day. I wonder if you guys have been around here.
Have you guys ever been to like Shreveport or.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I was just talking about that with somebody there.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I've only been to New Orleans and Louisiana, but I
know some people from Shreveport.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Actually, I I uh, something like me has been there,
but it goes by Peter the Roman.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Okay, Peter the Roman.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Interesting, Nice is Peter here with us?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Now? So looms large at what level of you know,
it's like hiking easter eggs? Like how how far in
the grass do you put them?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Peter the Golden egg?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, right, you know? Or is he like number one thirteen? Anyway, nice,
always have to say nice. So Shreveport is in Peter
the Romans experience, uh, a beautiful but imperfect place. And
there's a lot of interesting government activity.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Ooh yeah. So let's get to that. This area of
the United States is also known as Arcla Tech. You
may know a town that's right. I guess it's just
to the west of this area called Texarcana, which is
really cool. And why would it be named that, Well,
it's because it's kind of the border between Texas, Arkansas,
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and Louisiana all there together in one little corner. I
guess it's the northwest corner of Louisiana, is the way
you'd say. It just to the west Texas, just in
the north Arkansas. And there's this thing called the Red
River that runs between Shreveport and Bowser City, which is
just on the east Shreveport there on the west. And
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there's this other place, guys, when we're talking about government
activity in the area called Barksdale Air Force Base used
to be known as Barksdale Field. That's before the Air
Force became a thing. And guys, it's twenty two thousand
acres of land. Twenty two thousand.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Acres or is it like for sale.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Or no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Hang on, I'll pull it up zillow.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Okay. So the reason why it's not for sale is
because Barksdale Air Force Base is extremely important to the
United States as kind of a thing. It's I'm going
to read from their website. It's an award winning base
that's home to warrior airmen of the second Bomb Wing,
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air Force Global Strike Command, eighth Air Force, and the
three hundred and seventh Bomb Wing. It's also host to
mission partners dedicated to quote providing nuclear deterrence, combat power,
and combat support anytime anywhere. Tight like dominoes, like dominoes,
just like dominoes, but with nukes, dominiques. There we go,
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We got there, we got there. And this is this
is the most important part. The second Bomb Wing is
the the host unit of Barksdale Air Force Base. I
don't know what that means. Do you guys know what
the host unit means? Maybe the most crucial part of
the air Force base, perhaps, but it is one of
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only two B fifty two Strato Fortress bomber bases in
the Air Force. Now, a while ago we talked about
strato fortresses. What those guys are the giant B fifty
two bombers that actually carry nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
When they need to be carry the sky?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh yeah, Chonky boys in the sky.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yes, I thought she said chalky boys in disguise and
I was picturing a Transformers type scenario.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
But it's both of these ideas.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So why are we talking about these chonky boys. Well,
we got a message from Spooky Pan and we're gonna
listen to it right now.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Hey, guys, my name is Spitch Bands. There's a thing
called the bark Still Bubble. Bark Still Air Force Space
in Boucher City, Louisiana. I live across the river in Streatport.
Is the home to all our nuclear weapons, aside from
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Kirtland Air Force Space in New Mexico and Abuquerque. But
you know what the thing is. The thing is is
that no bad weather ever happens over our area to
persuade anything from the B fifty two's coming back. It's
called the bark Still bubble. So I'd love it if
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you guys kind of investigated the bark Still bubble. Love
you show, Love you guys. Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Hey, first off, there nuclear weapons everywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, well that so that's the thing, spooky Pants. Barksdale
is home to the Chonky boys that carry the nukes,
the certain nukes. But then they're nukes chilling everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
But in a way, yeah, spooky Pants, you're you're absolutely correct. Uh,
there has been from my understanding at least bet there
has been a lot of speculation over the years regarding
possible I guess meteorological anomalies would be a word for it,
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or a phrase like the pattern, just like you're describing
spooky Pants, the idea that the weather seems somehow courteous. Guys.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Yeah, you know, this reminds me of there's a character
in the movie Waiting for Guffman that David Cross plays
is like a UFO expert, and he's talking about have
been coming to this circle in Blaine, Indiana for five
years and sorry Missouri and measuring it. The diameter and
there's circumference always constantly changed, but the radius stays the
same once you go into that circle.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
The weather never changes. It is always sixty seven degrees
with a forty percent chance of rain. WHOA, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I wonder if they're inspired by this, this bubble that
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, interestingly enough, this Barksdale bubble thing really arises in
the nineties, the mid nineties to be precise, when a
little thing called Doppler radar shows up out there near
the Barksdale Air Force Base. And we'll get into that,
but first of all, if you go on a little
hunt for this thing called the Barksdale bubble that Spooky
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Pants describes, you're gonna find a lot of stuff. One
thing you're gonna find is a beer from Great Raft
Brewing on Shreveport. According to Untapped quote, this IPA is
a thick, juicy, tropical fruit bomb, which is very exciting.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Okay, okay, okay, yes, Love, you got your back. What
is untapped?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Untapped is a great website that reviews beers. It's like
crowdsourced beer reviews. It's pretty cool, actually.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
All right, well, they sound like they're they're legit, so.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
They're so legit. Great raft also, according to Untapped, has
a black lagger that I desperately want to try, called
reasonably corrupt. It sounds very, very fun and I like
their style over there at Great Rafts alright. Also, guys,
Barksdale Bubble. It's a band, no you can find Yeah,
you can find them at the Barksdale Bubble dot com.
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According to that site, this band is a quote electrifying
fusion of powerhouse female vocals and searing guitar solos.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It features bandmates Chris Fomo, Hirsh, Gabby Ray, Tim Not
the director, Burton, Chris count Me and Robinson a k a.
The unfairly photogenic botanist.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
What characters that's up there with those Australian IMDb film description.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Absolute exactly, Yes, definitely all right.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
So it feels like we solved it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, we solved it. But one of the last things
you're gonna find are several Facebook groups, several places on Reddit,
and several I guess just off the beaten path websites
that are discussing this anomaly, if you will. The nice
weather that appears above Barksdale all the time. There are
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so many screenshots of the Doppler radar above Barksdale showing
a ring of green or red or just bad stuff happening.
And then right in the center near where the Air
Force base is nothing just clear skies at least according
to the.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Radar beyond a matrix dodge.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Oh yeah, like as in, something's going on down here.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Okay, So so it is sideways around a certain perimeter,
but within that perimeter it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, everything looks good, especially if you are a weatherman
and you've got one of those green screens behind you
and you're pointing out, you know, places where it's getting
real bad. Free for it. Oh my gosh, this is
not good. Guys, everybody hunker down. Oh wait, there's this
one little nice look at that, so clear and calumn
right there. Okay, So who else do we go to
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to figure out what this is? Then? A weatherman. His
name is Andrew Brightman circa twenty twenty one. In April,
he was a weatherman for KSLA News twelve, and he
put out just some of the best reporting I've seen
in a long time, guys of the weather variety. I
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linked to it in here. You can find it right now.
You can really just search Barksdale Bubble KSLA. But the
title is Barksdale Bubble explaining the legend of the weather
manipulation device protecting Barksdale Air Force Base in this report guys,
which the video appears to be straight out of our
(26:03):
YouTube channel. I don't know if Andrew watches or it
just likes the same stuff we like. Whatever it is,
it's amazingly produced and it goes through it. It's talking
to a bunch of people, like radio local radio folks,
local people from Barksdale, people like from the air Force
base who are actually in the control tower there talking
(26:27):
to everybody about this weird anomaly and all of the
theories that surround it about maybe it really is some
kind of manipulation device to protect certain parts of the
air Force base that's not too outside of what we
know can happen. We've talked about weather manipulation on the
show before, but it's generally about the most common thing
(26:50):
is cloud seating, where you can encourage weather to like
maybe move in a certain way by creating the right
situation for moisture to generate in one area rather than another.
And then depending on you know, the wind patterns, you
can kind of manipulate the weather to be better in
(27:10):
one area by making it rain earlier before it gets
to you or after it gets to you, Right, that's
kind of the idea. Well, guys. In this report, Andrew
makes the following statement that we're going to play in
just a moment based on a couple of things. Specifically,
one of the things we mentioned earlier here that Doppler
radar was installed in the mid nineteen nineties in the
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area and this bubble has been seen since then. Andrew
describes a little flaw in Doppler radar that we need
to be aware of because it may just explain what
this bubble is. So let's go to Andrew.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Sometimes, when we freeport Boser, there's dry air close to
the ground and rain high in the atmosphere that evaporates
before reaching Earth, but the Doppler's beam still picks up
that prepation recording it has a green image on the
radar screen. However, close to the tower, the Doppler has
an almost circular blind spot that fails to see high
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atmospheric rain close to the tower, creating a mirage making
it look like it's raining and storming around Streamport, Bosire
while Marchdale remains sunny and dry.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So it really does make sense when when you hear
Andrew explain it. So I don't efficiently, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Accurately, Yeah, non b.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Exactly, but it is so great that he couches that
little nugget of information inside this piece that feels like
an unsolved mystery episode just to give you just the facts. Hey,
sometimes it appears as though there's nothing going on here,
but it's literally because the radar can't see it, and
because it's not actually raining right there, it's picking up
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the weather that's happening above the dry air.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And you know, another interesting thing about this, you guys
and spooky pants in specific here is that despite the
advent of Doppler radar as a technology being relatively recent
in its rollout to the public, we do know there's
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like a century worth of somewhat reliable data about weather patterns.
So it will be interesting also to look at just
the region right the overall climate of this Reveport area
there in a pretty pretty cool part of the United
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States actually, and see if maybe there are accounts of
some kind of sacro sanct area. Maybe there are accounts
of just regular rain. I don't know. Man, Well it's tough.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I can't recommend everybody watched that video more because right
at the end, after you know, talking about all the
theories and all of that stuff, Andrew makes that explanation
and then goes to the other parts of those interviews
where it's people from the Air Force base saying, oh, yeah, dude,
we've we've fought all kinds of insane weather on the
Air Force base. It's it is, we get the exact
(30:18):
same weather that everybody else gets in this area. Uh no,
they basically you know, and you got to take the
the Air Force base personnel at their word.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But you know, yeah, but I'm just I'm laughing because
now I'm picturing some guy who is just a hapless
mechanic it has to, you know, constantly be doing maintenance
on these vehicles. And just how pissed that guy must
be at the radar boys, you know what I mean,
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He's like, these did these drips? You know, I don't
know how they curse nowadays, drips bills eel, I.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Have no idea. In the end, it's all to protect
the Chalky boys. I'm going to think about that all day, guys.
In other Andrew Brightman News, it was his last day
back in twenty twenty two, on August fifth, at least
according to this other video on KSLA News, he moved
over to Charlotte, North Carolina and is now working for
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Queen City News. But major shout out to you, Andrew Brightman.
We we like your style.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, agreed, also Jim Yeah, oh, I love when people
say cut of your jip. We should have a we
should have a green screen. I'm gonna pitch you guys
a video. What if we do like weather, weatherman meteorologists stuff,
but instead of the weather, we predict conspiracies on the
(31:52):
green screen.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I love it, I love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We got a real heavy Barksdale bubble move in its way,
George Charlotte. Uh, by the way, being named bright Man
and like you're a weatherman that's determined. Come on incredible.
Uh So, Hey, spooky Pants, we hope we didn't burst
your bark Stale bubble too much here, but we do.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We highly highly appreciate you calling in letting us know.
I believe former Atlantean. According to another part of Spooky
Pants's messages. I think at some people do this. They'll
they'll call in, leave a message and then forget to
like give permission in that message, then call back and
(32:41):
do a second one. I think it was the second
message that just said, oh, by the way, I'm former Atlantean.
You can use my message.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
All are welcome, just like the ghost said in Poltergeist.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Do you go into the light or don't go into
the light. You don't go, okay, you don't go into
the light.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
It if you do go into the light, ty rope
around your waist and have somebody hold it outside of
the right in case they need to read it again.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And get the guy who is in that sitcom coach.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
There you go, There you go.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
House is clear. That very interesting looking lady. I love
that movie.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I loved her. Her tender was crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Jesus, you know what she wore, spooky pants. All right,
be right back. After a word from our sponsor, let's
do it.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
And we have returned with just a little bit of errata,
some addendans erotica. I am in your head. I know.
We'll open with a letter from uh, from a guy
I want to workshop nicknames with. We'll call him s
(33:55):
H for doubt. All right, but this is a response
to some uh can kay's we've had regarding the ongoing
situation with innocent residents of the United States and getting
black bagged out to El Salvador.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Okay, all right, don't like that.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Carry on, yeah, yeah, we always start off with the
light stuff, right, So, okay, hello, stuff. They don't want
you to know. I enjoy your podcast hard period. I've
found your discussion on L. Salvador prisons to be interesting.
I've driven from California to Panama on several occasions. I
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intentionally avoided going through L. Salvador because at the time
it was the most dangerous country in Central America, which also,
by the way, sh tells us a little bit about
when you were driving. Sah continues, it's now one of
the safest countries. Before Bukele became president of the country
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was overrun by criminal gangs who committed murders and extor
on much of the population. After having built the prison
you were speaking of on your podcast and locking up
the criminals and gang members, the number of murders in
the country has dropped down to below that of Canada.
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Most of the citizens of El Salvador says a sh
love what Bukele has done for their country and would
re elect him in a heartbeat. And many other countries
in Latin America would like to duplicate El Salvador's success
in reducing crime and the influence of the drug cartels.
Now let's pause here for a second, because this feels
(35:41):
like a really important point. Guys. We've heard of We've
heard of dictators or authoritarians or even fascists who are
lauded by the domestic population because they are seen as
cutting past the red tape, right, they're like cracking down
(36:03):
on crime.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I'm thinking of Libya in particular, where we heard pretty
historic levels of approval basically back in the day before
the you know, their leader was sir you know, I
was gonna say unceremoniously murdered, but there was quite a
bit of ceremony in.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
That before Gaddafi tried to start a African version of
a euro.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Or in Venezuela, there was a
really high approval rating that was at least reported, right
and if oh my gosh, guys, I just I found
I found something. It's El Salvador in English dot.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Com and this is legit.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, it says President Bukelia achieves historic ninety one percent
global approval rating.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Wow global? Yeah all right, yeah yeah yeah yeah, shout
out to Flabir Putin. Sure. But that I mean, there
is an argument there that has a lot of validity,
is there not the idea that, look, you're you're growing
up in a place where things stink, right, Shelter is
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a concern. Rule of law is a concern. Law enforcement
officials are easily corruptible. They may be the criminals they're
supposed to be looking for, you know what I mean,
Like they may be the hot dog guy and that
Tim Robinson sketch and down right right now you have
a guy who comes in and says, forget due process.
(37:48):
We know who the bad guys are, you know, let's
crack down on them. We can see logically how you
you would support that, you know what I mean. You
might say, I will sacrifice some of my rights, some
of my liberty in return for safety. And that seems
to be a somewhat fauski embargain, but it's one that
(38:10):
has occurred throughout history. Anyway, we're editorializing, Shu continue and
you say a very important point that adds to this.
You continue, the United States and Europe are the largest
consumers of cocaine and other illegal drugs. True, and as
such we bear shs US national by the way, and
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as such, we bear much of the responsibility for the
situation of crime and human suffering in these Latin American countries.
We have an obvious choice in our country to either
stop using illegal drugs or make them legal. It's something
we've talked about on the show.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Right, you can't use illegal drugs if they are in
fact legal.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh, that's perfect, Olla, that's really good. It's beautiful. So
l Salvador, sh continues, is not a rich country, and
the temptation to make a quick buck in the illegal
drug trade is irresistible to many young people. Obviously that
happens here. To decide to lock up all the gang
(39:22):
members involved in this illegal trade is not the best solution.
Unless we here in the United States accept responsibility for
the illegal drug market, it will be the favored method.
Locking people up will be the favored method to resolve
this tragic situation. Thank you for the podcast. SH. So,
(39:45):
First things first, good monikers for SH. I'm thinking, Wow,
all my ideas are pretty terrible.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Right now, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Untrue?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Get out of here?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh jeez, Well, we'll go with SH if anybody wants
to give a good solution a good moniker. If s
H were a series of initials, what would SH stand
for Starship Home? That's cool? You know we've been talking
(40:24):
about space.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Sugar Homie, Sugar Homie, Salvadorian.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Hero, Salvadorian Hero. Yeah, I like that. And as usually
happens in these recordings, folks, about three or four minutes
after we wrap the show, Dylan is gonna hit us
with the best one. Usually usually you know, he'll dig
that route of bega. So the question, as we as
(40:54):
we end here, before we move on real quick, what
what do we think would happen if the United States
slice the Achilles heel of the cartel Orge? But yeah,
by just by just making these various substances legal.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
I've always I've often thought about that, like, like, would
it be an immediate fix?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I don't know, it seems more complicated than that.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
What do you guys think what they'd pivot right, and
the cartels would pivot yeah, deep into avocados.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Right now. We talked about that previously they're diversifying their portrait.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Probably are like a lot of big media conglomos who
realize that a certain technology is maybe starting to go
the way of the dinosaur, or a certain type of distribution,
perhaps like radio into podcasting, for example.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I'm trying to wax my mustache when you say that, Noel,
so that I look a little more like the guy
with the two he's got the vaccine.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
It looks good, man. I like it. You should rock
that to.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Me from.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Some evil mustachio waxy. Leave it in no space, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It does well. You guys tell me, maybe I'm really wrong.
We've talked about it so many times. It does at
this point feel like my thoughts on it are solidified.
If you legalized the drug trade, black markets would just
shift and there would be a lot more human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
There would be a little more of the other trafficking.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, there would be other stuff, right, And if you
legalize maybe the sex trade, then maybe human trafficking starts
to change and it really does become the kind of
indentured servitude stuff that we just talked about.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I think it was last listener mail about people being
shipped in from Asian countries to work basically in sweatshops
here in the US and other places like that. So
you're like, if you change, if you make a legal
market for something, there's no real gain to the black
(42:58):
market stuff, right, Yana the same way.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I mean, it's a pickle, right, because the main thing
in these conversations about legal or illegal is that no
one at the top level, no one should be stupid.
There should not be a chump. It's okay to be evil,
It's bad to be dumb. Uh. It is the way
the like the rationale or the discourse takes place. So
(43:24):
to that point, you know, you you're playing whack a mole, right,
You're you're saying this thing is fine, and then a
criminal organization, unless they want to move to like a
regional or state level power, they'll find the next illegal
thing because the profit margins are just just high enough,
(43:46):
you know what I mean. So like, well, and you're not.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
The the anti tax incentives, right, I.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
Mean, that's a part of it, right, It's like a
tax free business.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
It's a tax free industry.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
That's what we got to find is more ways to
shelter our earnings from the taxman.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Their HR sucks. But yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Well it's interesting how the market shifts for things. So
driving around where I live now, and I'd be curious
to know if this is y'all's experience too. In most
gas stations that are not like a major brand like
a QT, sure you will find a ton of quote
THHC products, Yes, like a ton. I didn't even realize how.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Their Delta nine though their analogs, their loophole products they are.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
But they are all THC products and they're everywhere, so
it just and they are. They must be purchased all
the time, or else there wouldn't be so many of
them in so many stores.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Right.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
So in New York City, up until recently when they
cracked down on this because of like legalization finally rolling
out properly, all the bodegas sold actual cannabis under the table.
That is no longer possible because the government there in
New York City literally cracked down and went from door
to door and shut a lot of these operations down.
So you know, you really can only buy it through
(45:09):
legal means. But before that it was a real Wild
West situation.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
But I guess all, I'm yeah, no, I hear you
all I'm trying to say is I think the market
ends up finding away with a lot of that kind
of stuff, And it does feel like if there was
just a bigger push to just get that stuff out there,
and it's in a product you can buy that isn't
crazy expensive, then it does change. I don't know if
(45:34):
there's all the moral arguments, right, you can't allow that
to happen, right.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, But also cocaine brought to you on a subscription
model by Unilever, you know what I mean, subsidiary of
Hulu or what have you. I don't know how long
we're gonna I don't know how many shots I can
fire before we get fired, but we do have. We
(45:58):
do have further conversations in this light, you know. And
I love the shout out to I love the shout
out to independently owned gas stations. We know there's a huge,
ethically fraught petroleum industry that does a lot of dirt,
for sure, and also moves the world. But what I
(46:19):
love about the small I don't know if this is
maybe just a US thing or maybe just a Southern
US thing, but what I love about independent gas stations
in this part of the world is they will try anything.
I saw a bitcoin at everywhere.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
I mean, you know, what's funny you say that, But
I was thinking about that.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
They obviously are no longer whoever invested in those for
these gas stations, I don't think they're getting their money
money as.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Well, Yes, because their rate of attrition with weird ideas
is so high, you know what I mean. Like, if
you want to find forget the made first TV stuff,
go find the shadiest gas station in your neighborhood and
look on the backshelf. I guarantee you they've got something weird.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Have we talked about how they get away with having
these little gambling rooms too? Like these there's some of
the same machines you'll see in Vegas. But I'm very
confused as to why folks are posted up there.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
What are they getting?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Hey, Like you said you were going to be Is
that what it meant?
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yes, okay, it is okay.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
There was a restaurant right near me that had a
whole room in the back and if you won anything there,
it was like getting a gift card for the restaurant.
But you're spending a crapload of money trying to make
some money.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Machines you can also do. Oh man, all right, that's it,
it's done. We're doing a gas station episode. Yes, we're
doing a gain stuff they don't want you to know
about gas stations brought to you.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
But also, is it worth it to buy your gas
at cost co. I've seen a lot of differing opinions
as to whether that's a subscription service there versus how
much you pay for the game versus how much you're
paying for groceries actually amounts to you getting a deal.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
So I don't know, it's something that might be worth that.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
That's great, Yeah, let's put that in there. Also, obviously
shout out to everybody who just felt a little bit
snooty when they heard us talking and said, you know,
the way to save money is to take a bag
of loose diamonds and just buy the tanker.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, or the Pokemon cards that you keep in the
same case as the.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Loose diamonds, right right right, So heist decide. We're going
to end with just a few quick clarifications needs to
be said. First off, thank you to everyone who wrote
in we mentioned this in an episode or previous recording.
Menstruation and the moon are not related. The passage of
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the passage of the moon does not affect menstruation according
to current studies. That's a piece of information that needs
to be further out into the water world. Another important one.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Wait, I feel like we've talked about that before on
the show how.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
We had Maybe we must have, but I also probably
brought up that I thought that they were I do
remember recently in our astrology discussions, we were talking about
ways of justifying how astrology might actually correlate with real stuff,
and we had a listener right in I think I said,
I repeated that perhaps let's call it a what would.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
You call it, guys? Yeah, yeah, technically fact is something
that sounds like a fact. And I'm guilty of repeating them.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
I know so.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
But you are not alone. You are not alone. This
is here's a mea culpa on my part. We had
a conversation recently where we talked about flotsam versus jetsam,
and I said, oh, man, flotsam floats and jetsam sinks.
While that is not entirely incorrect, the important thing to
(49:52):
know and please merchant marines stop sending the emails flotsam
and jetsam are describing different types of debris or trash.
So flotsam is the stuff you lose. It's not deliberately
thrown overboard. So like a cargo ship amid the dangerous
(50:15):
waters in a storm in the Pacific because they don't
have the Barkstelle bubble when they lose a container ship,
that's flotsam.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Or a shipwreck or something right, right, or.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
A shipwreck or something. Yeah, And if you are in
a hurry, just you've gotten some situations on the water
and you got to throw some stuff out, that's jetsam.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
So is that like is that like? I'm sorry, I'm
just going to my mind to like a science fiction
story where the spaceship it needs to offload some weight
for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
I figure, Like remember that time, you guys we were
trying to we had to commandeer that helicopter and there
wasn't enough room.
Speaker 5 (51:01):
By the way, did you see that crazy helicopter crash
in New York over the Hudson or like it literally
fell out of the sky. Friend of mine sent that
to me and just said, like, never flying in a
helicopter ever, not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
I don't know, man, flying a plane is like learning
Mandarin but flying a helicopters like learning cantonates.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Ben, I don't remember the helicopter thing you're talking about,
but I do remember way back in the day we
shot Raven Oh. I think they were called like Raven
two's or something at the at a local airport way
back in the day. I think you and I are
both there, maybe with Marshall.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Nice Marshall wow from earlier. Yes, we have a we
have a lot of I have a lot of weird stories.
Maybe at some point the the four of us should
get together and write them down, or rather the five
of us including you as well. With these corrections, these
(52:03):
letters from home, we're getting a note from our producer
that this is the close of our listener mail. So
big thanks to Kate, Big, thanks to spooky Pants, big,
thanks to sh That is our sugar homie, starship Home.
What's a Salvador and hero and super cool? Super cool? Hang,
(52:23):
that's the love, thank you, that's the most important one.
So we're going to pause, We're going to noctivigate. We
hope this podcast finds you well and we'd love for
you to join the show. You can find us on
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can send us a good old fashioned email. It's right.
Speaker 5 (52:42):
You can find us on all of those places that
Ben mentioned on the interwebs, at least at the handle
conspiracy stuff where we exist on Facebook with our Facebook
group here's where it gets crazy. On YouTube we have
video content for our perusing enjoyment and entertainment. And on
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stuff showing there's more.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Oh, yes, we have a phone number. It is one
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you call in, give yourself a cool nickname and let
us know within the message if we can use your
name and message on the air. Guys, really quick shout
out to Chef Ben from Chicago that calls us all
the time. Chef Ben gave us a recipe that we
all need to listen to. Yes for curry chicken salad.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
That sounds great.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
I've been literally was just talking yesterday about how I
need to get into chicken salad, and this sounds like
just the ticket for me.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Dude. Basically, what Chef Ben says is make curry chicken
and then get it in the fridge overnight. After you know,
you eat your curry chicken meal, then your leftovers. You
add some mayo and some other things to it, including
I think it was golden raisin, crunches and red onions,
and you make a glorious curry chicken Saladazy.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
And if we can do one thing, we'll have to beat.
This joke is just for you, chef. How you been so?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, If you've got recipes, hey send them our way.
We love those kinds of things, and you can send
them to us via voicemail, or you can send them
to us via email.
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