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October 9, 2025 55 mins

The Chef calls in with a fascinating theory on the Kaikōura lights. Nemesis shares an inside look at Big Tobacco, answering Ben's earlier question about smoking inside (and much more). In the wake of the infamous Snuff episode, multiple Conspiracy Realists reach out with jokes, puns, well-wishes, kind words and pet pics. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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I know there are a lot of things we've heard
from you, our fellow conspiracy realists that that really spoke

(02:53):
to us in various ways, a little bit of breaking
news of our own. And we asked a question gin previously,
I believe it was on it was either listener mail
or Strange News, asking about, uh, the inner workings of
tobacco companies. Wait, was that in? What was that an episode?
What was that? Where do we mention it was recently?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I mean it's always been something that I've been curious about,
and until we got this incredible email that we're going
to read, I really hadn't given it too much thought
in terms of like what's it like actually on the inside.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
We we posed a question whether or not we think
you can smoke in those big tobacco Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I was asking if you could, if you you know,
if it's like, can you drink beer at the beer factory?
Can you smoke inside R? J. Reynolds or whatever they're
called it was, Oh, it was it was Atlas Network. Aha,
That's that's what I was asking, Because they put so
much money into or they get so much money from
big tobacco for things like vapes and uh, what was

(03:54):
that pr company red Flag that worked with them? Are there?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Are there vapors unite?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
They need a R company to help them workshop that
name because yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
No kid, all right, we'll take a quick break for
a word from our sponsors and then we'll dive in
or light up.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
And we've returned with an email, and I think was
fascinating to all of us. I can't quite remember that
conversation in the Atlas episode, but like my grandfather was
a tobacco guy from North Carolina, and like you know
word for pall mall and all this stuff, and like
had you know, stock in the tobacco companies, something that
was always kind of talked about in my in my household.

(04:39):
So I guess I never really gave too much thought
about like what the inner workings of like the offices
or even the manufacturing of tobacco was like, which is
weird considering that it was around me all the time
and I never really thought about it. But this email
that we've got from our buddy Nemesis absolutely cracks this
wide open in a way that's kind of mind blowing
to me and answers the question that you got we're

(05:00):
talking about from the Atlas episode. I'm just going to
jump right in, Dear esteemed gentlemen, this is so kind
gods of podcasting and champions of conspiracy. That deserves an
umrah right there, or a chance or a seat. Wonderful,
very very kind nemesis. In the recent episode, you wondered
if tobacco companies were compliant with anti smoking legislation. Having

(05:21):
worked for years in a past life as an IT
contractor at the head offices for both Philip Morris PMI
as he refers to a Philip Morris International and BAT
British American Tobacco, I can confirm that both are highly compliant,
due no doubt to the level of regulation and legislation
and the auditing that takes place. Prior to working for

(05:42):
these organizations, I had only worked in places where smoking
was only allowed and designated smoking rooms or outside areas. Therefore,
my first day at PMI in Las in Sweden was
a bit of a culture shock. I presented myself at
reception and after being inducted, I was asked how I
would like my cigarettes like you want it in all

(06:02):
fives you want over easy scrambles. Amazing, It's an amazing question.
And I immediately when I heard this, just like I
was stopped in my tracks. I'm sorry, what do you mean?
And I think he clearly felt the same way. Apparently
every employee was allocated a ten pack carton of their
preferred brand every month.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Wow, it's wild. I guess it's also kind of wild
that these companies even still exist, but that's a whole
nother conversation. Fortunately, it was a modern building with good HVAC.
So think like a really high end, nice casino, Like
how they still allow smoking on casino floors and yet
somehow the places, the good ones anyway, don't entirely stink

(06:45):
like cigarettes. And they've got some crazy filtration systems in there,
and they must be rocking something like that at Philip
Morris as well.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Fortunately it was a modern building with good ah VAC,
and there were smoking and non smoking offices. Even so,
as a non smoker, seeing someone chain smoking through sixty
a day, as in having to empty their ash tray
more than once a day, is a surreal experience. This
was in two thousand and six, when Switzerland was just
beginning to introduce smoking restrictions. Smoking on trains had just

(07:16):
been banned. Smoking is still very common in Switzerland's My
next contract in two thousand and seven was for BAT
in London, UK. Smoking restrictions were already in place, so
there was no in office smoking, only in designated outdoor areas.
The CEO, however, had his own private rooftop area, presumably
so that business could still be conducted privately while smoking.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Nemesis. This is the part that was really interesting to me.
I mean, just led such a fascinating life and this
cool smoky backroom door room.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
By you can't smoke it.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Right, the smoky the smoky rooftop makes so much more
sense because that's when you crack the big deals with
politicals and so on. Anyway, that's just interjecting, but yes, no,
this is the juice. This is a vag choice right here.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
And Ben, I'll just add too. I think you and
I have both been to some corporate headquarters of like
some non cigarette brands like food and beverage, and you know,
various travels over the years doing stuff for iHeart, and
I think you'll remember when we went to where like
you're not allowed to bring in any outside food or
beverage that isn't the brand of that company, like their

(08:26):
Mega Mega series about that, and it would appear that
the tobacco companies treat you the same way they want
you don't smoke them. If you got them, they better
be the house brand, right light that umbrella, like how
I believe it was Ford.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
But the anecdote I heard back in the car stuff
days was that one of the big three car companies
had fired employees who dare to drive to work in
you know, a Super U or something because it had
to be a Ford car or nothing. So it makes
sense that, I mean, a private company can do that.
So Matt, what do you get?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, I just like the idea that you could keep
an eye on the British American Tobacco building and if
you see smoke coming from the rooftop area, you know
the deal.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yes, that's incredible, you know the deal got made. You
know there might be a big merger on the horizon.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Or something bad's on the horizon. Why is he up there?
Chain smoke?

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It depends on the length and the and the color
and the breadth of the smoke. Yeah exactly. So, yeah,
this is This next bit is great, Ben, and this
I think really appeals to all of our house stuff
works brains. So although it's unlikely if you ever get
the chance to see a cigarette manufacturing machine in operation,
do so. As the fastest machines can operate in excess

(09:42):
of ten thousand cigarettes per minute. That's mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Which is yeah, it's crazy, like how many people smoke it?
How much smoke do they consume? You know, thousands? So
the scale of it, I don't even want to do
the cocktail math. My lungs are frightened.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
That's a lot of coffin nails right there.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
How could it possibly go that fast?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I don't understand it either. And maybe he's being hyperbolic here,
but he seems like he's in the no. So I
will give the benefit of the doubts and nemesis here,
and I would love to do a little digging. Do
you think they made how it's made on cigarettes?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Or is that sure?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Something something like that?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, as a fan of rolling certain types of
things and like being you know, like there is a
precision to rolling. Like I was just in Europe near
Switzerland actually, where everyone rolls their own cigarettes and just
to be able to do that, like there's freehanding that
it's like so fascinating. So to see it done like
with you know, industrial equipment would be a treat. So
while you can imagine a metal part or something solid

(10:40):
being made at this rate, for something as delicate as
a cigarette, it's staggering just in terms of like the
precision of the machinery, I think is what he means.
And I would agree fragility of the paper. Absolutely, no,
it's it's wild. Also, smoking is really bad, and it's
it's something I've struggled with in the past, and it
is definitely wild to me. They are churning out this

(11:01):
many cigarettes. And I will say too, speaking of being
in Europe, and I know you guys know this, and
I'm sure most people out in the audience too, but
I will never get over the macabre images that are
printed on European cigarette pecks, Like you know, there's a
woman coughing up blood and like you're like a like
a withered fetus.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Missing missing teachers, dessicated lungs. My favorite version of that,
which we mentioned here on or on Ridiculous History, is
the Korean version, where it's two parents sort of like
Looney Tunes. You can just see them from the waist
down and they're arguing, and there's smoke everywhere, and in

(11:39):
the middle there's this hapless, little heartbroken child just staring
at you as you pull out a cigarette. I think
that's pretty effective, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah it is. But also still a lot of people,
a lot of people smoke in Europe and Asia still,
oh yes, very much, incredibly popular, which is I guess
why it hasn't made it over here because I think
works aiencing a bit of a combustible tobacco decline here
in the United States. I think that's right, but in
other countries it doesn't seem to be the case. So
I'd have to look into the stats to to make

(12:10):
sure and compare. As always, if this is deemed sufficiently interesting,
which boy was it ever Nemesis, I'm happy for it
to be broadcast. Best Reguard's nemesis. And then he had
a ps that I know caught your eyebn about another
rabbit hole. That's really a topic for another day, but
this linked to a BBC Science and Action podcast as

(12:30):
well as an article about a satellite jamming GPS signals,
which is very relevant to what we were just talking
about in our Strava episode. Yeah, I always wonder Ben
if you'd write anything about that or what that might
look like maybe given that topic, you know, and how
GPS we've come to what ends.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, Matt and I are both super into this
because of the mystery drone activity that's occurring concurrently, like
shutting down the Munich airport right around I think shortly
after the time you were there, maybe right before.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
And it's a it wasn't Munich.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, it's too real out here to be scared. But
the that that is an excellent rabbit hole. And the
idea now with asymmetric warfare, to your point, Nemesis, the
idea now is that it is easier than ever before
and more affordable than ever before to get up to
some real hygienks against state level actors, especially in a

(13:26):
regional area. So I do think that bears an episode
that that podcast recommendation is great. So anybody who's interested
in learning more do check out the BBC. They they
do great work. I know they're not perfect, especially when
they're supposed to report about the royal family, but you
know they're doing their best and they're they're billy solid journalist.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Y'all have you Yes, excellent points and thank you again, Nemesis.
Just to close up, I just wanted to mention a
story that I just heard about the other day that
kind of seems to tick both boxes of this story
that Nemesis brough Uct represents. Five small hot air balloons
carrying smuggled cigarettes were found their way into Lithuanian airspace

(14:07):
this past week and forced the airport to shut down,
delaying flights for many hours. It would appear that these
balloons interfere with more than thirty flights packing around six
thousand passengers. And it's just what a way to smuggle something.
It seems so imprecise and just like it's very very

(14:27):
interesting and to your point about being able to get
up in that airspace now with consumer grade equipment, this
speaks to that as well.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And I love that you're pointing out the headline find
their way, because that's the perfect way to describe the
passage in hot air balloon. They're largely at the they
are largely at the mercy of wind currents. You can
get some direction, but they're not straight up dirigibles, which
I miss.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Which was a big feature, as we talked about while
I was away at texting, of one of the areas
that I was hanging out in Germany apparently was the
home of the Zeppelin. There's like the Zeppelin museum in
this city called Meersburg, and they were amazing Zeppelins all around,
super super cool. But yeah, why wouldn't it, I mean,
why would they use balloons like they're not drones. It

(15:14):
says here in the article Belarusian smugglers are increasingly using
hot air balloons as a cost effective alternative to drones
for cigarette smuggling, which presumably matt and then they would
just be trying to avoid taxes. It's not like, what's
the benefit of black markets. I guess that's mainly it.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
That's where they Yeah, taxes, possible tariffs, there might be
there might be some sanctions theoretically, but not in that part,
not not between those two countries. For cigarettes. They're just
trying to sell those lucies without the taxman taking their vig.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
And it would appear that nine hundred and sixty six
separate hot air balloons have been intercepted by Lithuanian authorities
from laus That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I wonder if they're tinier balloons.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well, if you look at the image, you can kind
of see they do appear to be a bit smaller.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Are they unmanned?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
They got a bit would have to be hold on
a second. Let's see various locations switching with the airport.
Balloons were determined to be criminal smuggling. I don't see
anything in this article as to whether they're manned or unmanned,
but the article does make a good point. Two balloons
flew directly over a Villainous airport, with more than two
dozen reaching the wider Villainous County area.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Their weather balloons. They are you got weather balloons.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'm sorry, I see it now. There's a picture of
the bottom. They are unmanned, and they are these massive
tear drop shaped like rubbery looking weather balloons. You're one
hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Right, kind of similar to what we sent over the
Korean border.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
That's true. Another reason why this story is relevant and fascinating.
So well, sorry to stray it too far from Nemesis email,
but I just thought this checked a few fun boxes.
So thanks again, Nemesis. We're gonna take a break here
a word from our sponsor, and then we back with
more messages from.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
You, and we've returned. Guys, I'm looking on Amazon at
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Speaker 4 (17:11):
Thank you to thank you talking, can we guess I'm
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Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm looking at a seventy two inch, one hundred gram
weather balloon for fifteen dollars ninety nine cents. You can
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Speaker 3 (17:32):
Okay, okay, that's child.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm really glad that there. I love what Amazon products
name absolutely everything you could possibly want for the product
in the title.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I also love it what it's clearly a niche thing,
like it's a it's a devil costume or something that
says devil costume for Halloween, Easter, Christmas, bar mitzvah parties,
first driver's license.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Oh that's I just searched for devil costume, Ben and
there's I'm looking at so many titles that are exactly that.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah, I've got one coming that is the the one
that can get here tomorrow. Yeah, it's like the one
Jason Sideika is rocked on SNL devil costume.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh yeah, dude, SNL has been pretty great lately. Okay, guys,
we got a call from a mystery person and they've
got a cryptic message that I can't figure out. Maybe
we can work on it together, or maybe you out
there listening, maybe you understand what this is. So let's begin.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Hey, the lasagna caidia, it's under the Rue de Begas.
I repeat, the lasagnaka is under the Rue de Begas.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay, uh, any anything, guys, any ideas?

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Ben how do you feel about a lasagna case? Is
that like putting a hat on a hat kind of
or what do you think?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I love it? Mystery color message received? Where go? We're green,
We're going all right?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
How did it get under the roota begas? Though? That's
my question?

Speaker 7 (19:12):
Now?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Are we talking placed underneath a dug up rutebega or
buried beneath the buried vega in the cold, cold ground, because.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Then you'd have to I like the Tom Waits reference,
because then you'd have to rebury the root of bega.
But if this we're not clearly a number station level
code again, we are five by five. We're green proceed.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Can we also just say that rebury the rude begas
should be a code like that you would says, repeate
we rebury the roota begas. Guys.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I think it's I think it's even deeper than all this.
I think the reason why we are so obsessed on
this show with digging up rutabagas is because we have
to get to the lasagna burrito slash.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
That's that's what the that's what you got to get at.
That's what we're always striving for.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
If you have ricata in the casada and you cut
it in the fourth and you layer it atop itself,
then is that not functionally lasagna?

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I was gonna say, because I mean the tortilla on
the outer lay, it's just another layer. It's not noodle, though,
but it's noodle like yeah, yeah, Flowers.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Wait a minute, going off of your ferido invention, Ben,
what if it's fa zagnya?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I like it. I like it. We gotta you know,
the technology is not there yet, just like the furrido.
But thank you to the people who wrote in and
called about the ferido idea. I think there were a
couple of folks who really want to get on on
the ground floor. The research continues. You know what I mean?
Every time you don't hear us live on the air, folks,
picture us in our lab coats, which we do have.

(20:40):
I don't know why I said it that way.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
And I had a pretty sick apron yea, we're.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Tight trading and other chemical words for our furridos beautiful.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
What is it fido again? I think I might have
been out when you talked about this.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I won't shut up about it. It's been an obsession
for a while. It's a note I found from past
me hidden in the back of a freezer. Okay, furrito
PA plus burrito, tell no one, and so I've been
working on it for a while in a semi secret.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Could you could just do I mean, like I think
when people think here at PA in a burrito, they
think impossible, because you know, I have to have the broth.
You could just put think of the amazing toppings they
write in the PA and you wrap that up in
a burrito with the nice thin beef, maybe the flank
that makes a lot of sound.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Scented, or you could you could marinate it, or you
could look. We know the technology is there because of
the precedent of the soup dumpling, so all is not lost.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
The noodles could take the place of the rice. You
could do noodles that are sort of sawteed but not
like sopping wet, and I ben guys brilliant.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
In twenty sixteen, Spoon University wrote an article about how
to successfully make a fu rito at home. We can
we actually can do this. There are recipes.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I've I am familiar with the work of Spoon University,
though I do not respect them. Looks really we don't
have time to get into it, Okay, but it is
really good. I'm kidding, of course, respect to work. Every
invention is the result of multiple people across the world.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Absolutely, It's just it looks like I don't think we
can purchase one. We need to find a way to
make them monetizable.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
We can repurpose a cigarette machine to yeah flurritos. I
like a mini pH because it's gotta be it's gonna
be delegate, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
We can sell it as a quit smoking aid, like
a little.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Tornado, you know, like one of those like like a thin,
thinly rolled.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah frozen farritos in the freezer section for all you
buy them.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
They're about the size of a pack of cigarettes.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
You buy them at pats of twenty Yeah, yeah, yeah right,
and then uh, you know you can all see self
heating technology like those sick Bento boxes in Japan where
you know, I can use the context clues.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
That sounds amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Wait, you're you're describing our other products, the faikito.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Uh yes, the Fikito. We have a whole product line
that is technically pun based. However, we we stand by it.
I almost went in to the accent of that guy,
and I think you should leave, and I stand by it.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Look, we're being entirely too silly, guys. We need to
get something super serious now.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
You promised us further silliness off.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
And switch. Thank you to I gu farritos and more.
Uh yeah, let's get Let's get super serious. Okay, like
you were saying.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Super serious, Let's jump to our episode on the Kaikora Lights.
It's been a while since we put that one out,
but that one is still in the back of all
of our minds. I'm sure it was just one of
those episodes so mysterious it just makes you go, what
could this have been? Well, I think we might have
an answer from Chef Touey. That's not the name you
called in with, but we are going to call you

(23:56):
Chef Tooey for this uh with an important piece of insight.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
Here we go, fellas. Good morning, it is a beautiful
Monday in Chicago. This is Chef Ben. Just wanted to
let you know. I know what the Kai Kora lights are.
They are Imperial probe droids sent to this planet on
a regular basis to keep an eye on the descendants
of a clone who went a wall and settled on
this planet. Here's how I know this. I agree that

(24:23):
that accent that they have in New Zealand is delightful,
wonderful accent. It's not a New Zealand accent. It's Mandalorian.
It's an accent that has been passed down generationally from
Django Fett, who was the original progenitor of all of
the Clones. There's documentation in the Clone Wars of Clones

(24:44):
going a wall and just laying their weapons down. Man,
they had enough, they were tired. They decided they wanted
to just settle on a planet, have kids. Ps. If
I was making a Clone army, I would make it sterile.
But that's just me. And these clones just lived their lives.
They just said, you know what, I'm done. I'm done
fighting for the MP I was fighting for the Republic
and that was honorable, and now it's turned into the
empire and I can't support this. If you look at

(25:07):
the wonderful documentary about the indigenous people in that whole
Polynesian kind of area, Moana, her father has that same
Mandalorian accent, and I believe is directly descended from an
escaped clone. Somebody who went a wall, left the war,
settled on this planet. And so that area of the world,

(25:29):
I'm sure is under imperial observation, you know, on the regular,
to make sure that the clones and the descendants of
the clones are not going to pose any sort of
a threat to the greater galaxy. As long as we're
planet bound here, we're actually fine. The Imperial probe droids
will just keep an eye on us and make sure
that we're not planning any sort of an uprising. Look,

(25:49):
I'm just blowing the lid right off of this. I'll
be the truth teller in this. Thanks everything, you guys do,
Take care, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I can only imagine some of the messages we're gonna
get from them also spawned from that message.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I mean, given the like Disney of it all, it
does make sense that these worlds, these universes would be bound,
you know, Milana and Star Wars, and I want to
see the official crossover where all.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
This stuff is fully realized, all things rise must converge. Yeah,
it's gonna happen. I mean, the money is just the
money is too present and too possible. Also, statistically, for
any naysayers, fellow conspiracy realist in the crowd, keep in mind,
there were a lot of clones in the Clone Wars.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Sure were the whole army of them in fact.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
So it's not like the Jedi. It's not like they're
just a few. Comparatively to the size of the galaxy.
There were tons of clones, so who knows where they
ended up?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Did y'all? Did either of you finish watching that Alien
Earth series on Hulu?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I don't want to be it down.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
It got bad.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I got to the second episode and I was like, Okay,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I haven't checked it out.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I was on board for about maybe three episodes, and
then I just wanted to see it through. But it
gets real oddly not good. But the Disney of it
all too. This was a Disney production, and there's these weird,
like kind of forced tie ins with Peter Pan and
also ice Age the movie. Like it's just like you
could make one argument that Noah Holly is doing it

(27:20):
as this kind of like grounding force in the world
of the show, but it feels like a Disney tie
and where they're like, maybe people will be reminded to
go stream the original Peter Pan because of this, or
watch ice Age the movie. Yeah, it's super weird. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Who's the actor that plays the brother.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
He's not good in this. I like if he was
in a really good episode of Black Mirror called Shut
Up and Dance, the one where he's getting trolled by
this like you know this like emoji like laughing kind
of cringe faces thing. He's excellent in that. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I really like him.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
And the other guy was in Black Mirror too. He
was in the one about the lock Locke Hennery, which.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
And he's I just don't know what's happening. I just
don't understand whatever is happening in that show, because there's
all of the pieces seem incredible anyway.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Agree, always wanted to bring it up because of the
Disney diet.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well back to the Mandalorian Okay, because that's what's important here,
because we're talking about the Kaikorolites and these probes, these
dang probes that are keeping an eye on us. Well,
some of us don't like having an eye kept on us,
so we need to find a way. I don't know.
It's a wonderfully silly message and we do appreciate it.
Chef Ben your actual name, And We've got one more

(28:32):
message here before we move on to our next segment.
This message was going to be in last week's Listener
Mail episode, but we had to cut it for time,
and I'm just giving you the credit here, Ben. You've
you discovered this, and this is some really important news,
biological news, like we always we're always interested when there's

(28:53):
news about corvids, right.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, this up there with the Mandalorian revelations.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
It really is.

Speaker 10 (29:00):
I guess this is Salmon Hand's big fan of the show.
I just wanted to call and share with you all
this news story that I saw, and as a biologist,
I found it quite concerning. But anyway, apparently crows across
the United States have lost the ability to communicate, and
scientists are frantically trying to find the cause. I'll seat

(29:23):
myself out.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, stay, you're in the right place. I was in it.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
There's a there's a teeny tiny cat me out at
the end of that. I'm gonna play the just the
very end. It's so great. Uh, maybe laugh out loud.
I was sitting here putting it in the system. Here
we go.

Speaker 10 (29:52):
I'll seat myself out.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Question for doctor Vankman, did you go to that guy's
house and force him to write that joke?

Speaker 4 (30:04):
No, The only thing that forced him to write that
joke was the spirit of pure inspiration.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
You can complete the fifth you're a cat? Yeah, I
handible lecter over here.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
We appreciated that so much.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, yes, what a joy.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
And go ahead and try that one out on your
friends and family. That seems like a great joke.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
It's almost like to the level of like Norm MacDonald
anti humor, where it's just so deadpan and straight you're
almost along for the ride, and then it just like
I almost missed the punch. I almost missed the punchline.
But then I realized that he stopped and he wasn't
actually telling me more about this research, and then there
must be something amiss.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
And we got a lot of We got a lot
of jokes and jocularity in recent correspondence, which will probably
get to later on today.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
It also just seemed like something that totally could be true, right,
I'm sorry, it's like like colony call apps or something,
you know, like.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, if retelling, I would add a couple of parts
in the middle there to support the thesis or the
concept that the crows have lost communication like some findings.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Perhaps like like they're not responding to calls from other
animals or birds, like they're any the owls or human
researchers ultra specific.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
And then finally, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Go into the crows specifically different, still trying to find
the cause.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
That's very good. Oh my goodness, that makes me happy.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well, we we have a ton more amazing voicemails, so
please keep sending those in. They're incredible. Y'all are hilarious,
And I know we're just having mostly fun in this
part of the episode, but there's some very serious things
that you guys have been writing too. I think this
is just part of our coming down from some of
the serious to we've been hitting.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, it's a bit of a cleanse. Yes, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Maybe doing that for the next week.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Appreciate it like it truly is restorative when you write
in with these things. So oh call in of course.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yes, Oh you know what we mentioned I think Ben
in our last listener Maile episode that Oz woman called
in about the Rudebega festival in Minnesota place called Askov.
I think we mentioned it, but we didn't talk about
it much. Is there is just to remind everybody, a
rude bega festival that happens annually in Askov, Minnesota, that's
a sko V and it happens in August. You can

(32:29):
look it up. You can find a Facebook page about it, right,
and you can find these things that they specialize in
there at the rude Bega festival called Abuskivas. And these
are delicious spherical pancakes of Danish descent.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Incredible. I like how you said of Danish descent.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yes, that's where they arose and that is where they
continue to thrive. But they are now also in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Well, if you want to go, you better go ahead
and ask of in advanced.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeahs and os woman. As you pointed out, we did.
I don't think we played it, but we did mention that.
In our previous Weekly Listener mail segment. You also noted
that every every town or village of any size in
Minnesota has a specialized festival, and we would love to
learn about all of those as well.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Minnesota state fairs are famous. Yeah, yeah, just for like
all the weird fried stuff, and I mean that is
absolutely a specialty of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I love it. I love the idea of any place
that you can just you can be driving on a
state road, hopefully not an interstate. State roads are the
better way to see the country, and then you pull
over and someone's like, hey, welcome to our town. This weekend,
we're entirely about cheese curds. Here's your hat, here's your apron.
Remember the magic word is pasteurized. Oh, here's some fried

(33:55):
butter for the road. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Did I tell you guys about my recent cheese curd experience.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I know about the squash festival, but I didn't hear
about the cheese curd thing.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Okay, so attended a squash festival in Wisconsin. Yeah, but
you know, flew into Minneapolis over there and drove through
like Duluth, Minnesota, part.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Of the country incredible, incredible year or two.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh yeah, and so we went to this this festival
where my girlfriend played a bunch of music. Then as
we're leaving, we're like, oh, we're in Minnesota. We got
to get some cheese curds. We asked around. There were
only two restaurants basically on this route because we were
in the middle of nowhere, that had cheese curds, and
the people were adamant. You go to this place because

(34:43):
it's got the best cheese curds around.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
It's like the Philly cheese steak argument, right, everyone their favorite.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, oh yeah. So we went in. There's a ruckus
going on there, so everybody's excited. There's just so much
excitement in this tiny little place, right, it's filled up
to the brim. Parking lots filled. We go in there,
we order some cheese c the kids love them. They're
so good. Then as we're leaving, we're starting to notice,
like it's the cheese curs were amazing and going down,

(35:07):
but there's this weird like flavor. This were a taste
we see on the sign that we could not see
from the side. We were coming from from the festival. Uh,
they were having a little festival of their own.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Oh yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
The annual testicle Festival.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
So they were cooking testicles, deep frying testicles all day
long while we were at the squash festival. And then
we got cheese curds cooked and what I'm assuming is
the same.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Test oi oil. Yeah, okay, the Prairie oyster grease. Well,
now you've had a coolinary experience.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Would you eat a testicle, Matt, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
I have a Yeah, you have it, knowingly.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Faced with one, and it looked interesting, like I like liver,
well like odd things from now. Yeah, it's not for everybody,
but I for some reason, I imagine a testicle has a
livery quality to I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's definitely, I mean be kind of like eating other
kinds of other sorts of awful for us. For us,
probably it's more a cultural moray thing rather than like
a health concern. I mean, I know, bull penis is
a delicacy in some places, and you know what, not
my jam more bull penis for you folks for sure.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, do you fair bigs? Have you vaughon Biggs, Will you.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
All time lord of the Rings out takes?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
That's what what you guys are like? Did you eat testicles?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I was thinking also like McCarthy Red Scare, you know,
the senator taps the mic, Mister Frederick, Have you or
will you ever eat bull testicles? Have you associated with
people who consume bull testicles or with a bull that
has testicles presently or in the past?

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Would you eat my testicles?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Ah, that's a that's a Hoover question. That's a Herbert
Hoover question.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
All right, guys. I always think of like an oversized
cherry tomato, you know, the pop that.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I have to cut my cherry tomatoes because I don't
like the pop. I don't want the pop. Best part,
I don't like the pop.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
I don't like the pop pop for us. Yeah, sure,
it depends on how you cook them. I've no raw
and a salad.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I just it's too poppy for me, so I sliced
them down the middle.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I'm pretty sure I eat sliced testicle or something.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I guess you're always eating interesting stuff when you're on
the road. You're always like looking for the odd local delicacies,
and that's like a thing that you do.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
This next break is going to be brought to you
by minnetaka Oysters.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Oh yeah, Lake minnetaka all right, we'll be right back
with more messages from you.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
And we have returned. As we said earlier, there's a
lot of stuff that we're not going to get to
in this week's listener mail segments. We're going to hold
it for next week because we have so much more stuff.
Oh we should mention this, guys before we get into
our last act here. We are going to be running
some classic episodes over the like over about a week

(38:16):
or so. We're really excited to share those with you.
And primarily it's going to be is a weird sentence
for us to say. Primarily it's going to be because
we are in international waters, right, We're on the High Seas,
so we want to make sure we can always create
the best possible show for you. So we will be
kind of out of break, but we're going to make
it back to the United States. Business is normal, don't worry.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Right, you'll have an episode from the High Seas, yes,
waiting for you in your podcast feed.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Absolutely, and we work pretty pretty diligently as a team
to strike the right balance of different episodes. We don't
want one week to be entirely depressing, we don't want
one week to feel entirely like meaningless, whimsical stuff. But
we love it. We love all that. And when we

(39:06):
did a really dark episode about snuff films, we asked you,
our fellow conspiracy realist and the most important part of
the show, to if the spirit moved you, give us
a little bit of a pick me up, give us
a little bit of a nice thing, some eye bleach,
be that pet photos or terrible jokes. And as we

(39:28):
tease previously there right before the break, you came through, folks,
thank you so much. So we thought at the end
of this we would share some of these responses. We're
not going to get to all of them because we
did receive a lot. How about we go with some
jokes first? Does that sound good?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
It does, We're already on a joke roll.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Let's hear some more, all right, The shepherd says, bonjours,
stuff guys, let me do it a different voice, stuff guys. Boy.
That stuff movie episode was a rough one to get through,
but towards the end, Sir Ben and wow, okay, thank
you invited us all to offer some jokes to light
in the mood. Here's my offering. Why should you never

(40:06):
fart in an elevator?

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Something about lift?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
No no, no, he's so close levels because it is
wrong on so many levels. Hey, all the best, the Shepherd,
Thank you the Shepherd. And then we have Kyle. We're
gonna call you, sir Kyle. We'll pick up. We'll call
you Baron, Kyle, Baron. Kyle writes in and says, hey, boys,
first time, long time, cool, big fan of the show.

(40:32):
It happened for years. Just listen to the Stuff film
episode and heard you guys ask for a little pick
me up after such heavy subject matter. So here's a
joke I believe I made up myself, but very well
could exist already. I came up with it after an
older friend of mine told me that her father was
a police officer who had to retire when he got dementia.
Stand up voice. A police officer with dementia called me

(40:54):
over the other day. He comes up to the window
and says, do you know why I pulled you over for?

Speaker 11 (41:01):
Oh, dear, get it? Because he has Oh yeah, okay,
I get it. It's kind of sad, kind of a
sad joke that I feel bad for that cop.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, it is what it's a pretty sad one. So
here's a lighter one. Kevin from Saint Louis writes in
and says, hey, gang, I'm listening to yesterday's stuff. They
don't want you to know, podcasts about snuff films, and
it's some real heavy. Thanks for the beep, Dylan. I'm
writing to answer your call to lighten the mood with
my favorite joke. What's the difference between roast beef and
pea soup? Anybody can roast.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Beef, ye.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Would be.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Oh no, see, I'm thinking peeing pea soup, so it
would be green. In my imagining of this.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Would it be tell us your fresh.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
You have to be careful for something with barley soup?
Obviously obviously Kevin from sat the answer, The answer is fu.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
The answer.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Straight up three being chili.

Speaker 12 (42:11):
Oh gosh, just straight straight upon, Kevin says, well, I
didn't write these, I'm.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Just talking about passing large objects.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Yes, I hope that brought the mood up a bit,
says Kevin, And thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I think it did. Thank you for all you do.
Keep up the good work.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
And then We've got more that are a little bit more. Gosh,
We've got so many great pet pictures. Shout out to
ghost Rock Heart and Penny, the newest addition to their family.
Shout out to longtime listener Blue Skies, who sent us
multiple pictures of her cat looking astonished. Look he just

(43:01):
dumbly surprised, not guilty the way cats often look, but
looking like you know what he looks like in this picture.
He looks like that guy who got caught hugging the
lady at the Coldplay concert. Oh yeah, look, yeah, yeah,
deer in headlights exactly, but like a kneebelung.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I got an Apollo here somewhere, y'all. I think he's
kind of curled up in a corner. He's so tiny
I can't find him, but he's here in spirit.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Awesome Shout out to Apollo, Meadow, doctor Vankmin, and of
course the cat with a thousand names. So we've got
another letter from Chesapeakachu. We're just running through these quick set,
right chessap Pikachu. You said, hi fella, as I finished
this Stuff Films episode and wanted to send some good
news your way, some very hopeful climate news. I've been

(43:47):
trying to balance out my feed with hopeful stuff and
this has really been helping me. And you know what,
Chesa Pikachu been doing the same. And I think all
of us in our own ways. Here's the good news
that you sent us. From good, good, Good co the
United Nations confirmed that the ozone layer is on track
to make a full recovery by mid century thanks to

(44:09):
international action.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
That's great news.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
But isn't that great?

Speaker 4 (44:13):
What about all the deregulation. Is that going to set
us back?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
That's the question. It's on track, it's not done. But
that big Oh.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
That's amazing. That's a great It's one of the best
headlines I've heard in weeks.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
That's awesome. Yeah, because we remember we were all around
at some level when people worried about that big atmospheric
butthole over the South Pole, just the missing area where
the ozone should be and how depleted it was, and
luckily collective action on a global level slowly but surely

(44:46):
improved the situation.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Well, and I would say shout out to Greteth Tunberg
who just got released as well, who was home safe
after being detained in her protests, and Gaza for Gaza
and supplying aid. But she's always been a huge part
of that discourse that you're talking about, you know. Yeah,
it's a bad rap and people she's very divisive to
some people. But I just think, you know, someone's got
to screen that stuff from the rooftop.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, it's weird when someone's a public figure because sometimes
you don't really understand the root of why someone dislikes them,
you know what I mean, Like, there's a lot to it. Also,
shout out to the other members of the Gaza flotilla
who have successfully secured their release. We're thinking of a
lot of veterans from the US Armed Forces. Yeah, and

(45:32):
also Chesapikachu adds on a personal note that she's started
volunteering with kittens and sent us pictures of the kittens.
That's awesome. You close Chesa Pikachu with saying it's cheesy,
but a better world as possible and things are bad
but aren't as out of hand as they see. I
don't know about the last part, Chesapikachu, but I think

(45:55):
your four pals here can agree that, yes, a better
world is possible, as she corny as it may sound,
and I think we're unapologetically cheesy and corny. We're like
that side dish at the Korean barbecue joint, you know,
the cheese corn. Yes, it's amazing, it's one of the
best parts.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
What a great idea.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
We should go get cheesy corn.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
We should go get Korean barbecue. That's a great group activity.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, that's an awesome one. We're actually going to do
that later next week too, or this weekend.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
You're right, we literally booked. They have a Korean barbecue
steakhouse on the Queen Mary. What's it called again, the
Valiant Lady.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yes, yes, that's a Valiant lady. We also got a
great bit of trolling. Trolling is one of our favorite
genres of affection. So thanks to the folks who sent
us photoshopped pictures of us and they won't really translate
to audio, but the day was made. We also want

(46:49):
to give some time to really thoughtful letter we got
from a guy named Uncle Bosco, and Uncle Bosco's unfortunately
speaking from some deep experience. He says, my heart goes
out to you all. Delving into the stuff is quite
simply detrimental to your wellness. Please don't do this kind
of research because you feel you have an obligation to
your listeners. I'm a huge fan of the show and

(47:09):
of each of you individually, and I look forward to
each and every episode you release. The reality is, as
much as your listeners feel close to you, your only
obligation is to your family, partners, and close friends. This
kind of material damages people in ways that are very
difficult or impossible to heal from. Your listeners should not
take precedence over your ability to be whole people capable

(47:31):
of fully participating in the lives of your loved ones.
I've previously told you about the segment of my career
when I was screening print, video and audio media for
Obscenity and the decade's long struggle I've had with PTSD.
Because of this, my family, my wife, and my kids
all lost out. Because I felt it was my obligation

(47:51):
to keep doing that work for about fourteen months, it
was not worth it. I regret that decision every day.
You guys are amazing, and I truly value all your
episodes and all the work you all pour into each one.
I would hate to think you felt obligated to me
and other listeners to literally put yourself in harm's way.
So thank you, Thank you very much. There, Uncle Bosco.

(48:13):
You also didn't leave us without a dope joke. To
step two, you said, here's a PG rated Halloween themed
joke for you. Now I didn't. I haven't read this
one fully, you guys. I thought we could explore together
on AIRIC. Here we go. Two bees decide to go
trick or treating and after much debate, they decided to
dress up as ghost. Off they set on their first

(48:34):
trick or treating adventure. As they were approaching one house,
they saw a group of wasp toilet paper a house
and they immediately decided to clean up the hooligan wasps mess.
The old praying mantis who lived in the house saw
the whole thing, and when the two bees finished cleaning
up and rang the doorbell, the old mantis opened the
door and said, well, I've never seen such a nice

(48:55):
pair of boo bees before in all my years. There
is not a clap slow enough movies. Yeah, and ends
with Uncle Bosco. You ind with I hope you all
are doing well. Thanks man. If you struggle with flashbacks,

(49:15):
please seek professional assistance. I'm a huge supporter of em
d R, as it was what finally got me on
the road to recovery. Please take care of yourselves and
each other. So what a thoughtful message, right, That's very thoughtful,
and that's this is just a small slice of all
of the people who have taken the time to taking

(49:35):
the time from you know, from your own day to
reach out to us with a message that gives us
a chuckle or that tells us to keep going. People
who send us very sincere correspondence with you know, just
jokes aside, checking in and always welcome to do that.
We're we're grateful you're here. We're gonna wrap in a moment,
but before we do, we wanted to share a little

(50:00):
bit of what we'll call a teaser message from our
pal Steve. Steve, you say Hi, we're listeners on the show.
We normally listen to you during drives in the car.
It's the only podcast I can find that my girlfriend,
my daughter and I can agree on research and presentations
on point able to keep our attention. I'll be on

(50:20):
the cruise with my girlfriend as well as my parents
and looking forward to seeing and meeting you. Steve also
has a little bit of a possible surprise while we're
on board, and Steve will maintain OPSEC We don't want
to blow up your spot, but we got your back, man.
We can't wait to see what unfolds.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Steve.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
You also mentioned the allegations about the Tartarian Empire. The
Tartarian Empire, as we all remember, is something we explored
in a previous episode. I can't remember how long ago,
but do check out. Well, you know what, let's just
find it. Our Tartarian conspiracy episode came out around this

(51:05):
time last year or two years ago, guys, Almost exactly
two years ago to the day. On October eleventh, twenty
twenty three, we published the Tartarian Conspiracy. Do you guys
remember that one?

Speaker 9 (51:17):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I do. I remember this very well. We found a
bunch of video we were sent a bunch of TikTok
and Instagram videos. I actually shot a social Tartarian like
conspiracy video that we never published. Guys in New York
City because you could look around at a bunch of
buildings and then find the modern ones right, and then
there's one old construction somewhere amongst them, and you.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Go, oh, yeah, this is uh yeah, that's a good point.
Because the Tartarian episode, which I think still holds up. Unfortunately,
it got weaponized by a lot of very bad faith actors,
especially in the world of anti Semitism. But at its heart,
it's really a story about lost empires and architectural conspiracy

(52:06):
is often called the QAnon of architecture. So if you
want a neat deep dive that's a little off the
beaten path of other conspiracies, do check out our episode
on that. We like.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
It's an alternate Atlantean lo Marian thing.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, exactly, well said. You know, it's all it's all
mudslides that bring about the end of that empire. And
I remember in the episode, we were trying to figure
out where all the confusion originated from initially, and one
of the best lines in that episode is, to put
it bluntly, a lot of maps sucked at that time

(52:43):
in history.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Accurate limited, limited maps.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Limited maps in both terms of availability and accuracy. So
we are going to call it to day. We've got
a pack for a trip, We've got an activigate, get
so close to the horizon and adventures ahead. We can't
wait to hear from you. Thanks to everybody who gave

(53:07):
us an email, hit us up online, gave us a call.
We'll end with one last joke. Hey guys, why can't
you tell kleptomaniac's metaphors because those folks take literally?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Oh all right, Regular Amelia Adelias.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
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post snuff film, Thanks to Chef Twey, thanks to Sam
and Hands Nemesis Mystery Caller, and thanks to you for
tuning in with a big thanks to our super producer
Dylan Tennessee Paalfagan. We'd love to have you on the
show in future explorations. You can give us a call.
You can always send us an email. You can always
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We have a phone number. It is one eight three
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Speaker 3 (54:12):
We are the entities that read each piece of correspondence
we receive. Be well aware yet unafraid. Sometimes the void
writes back. It takes everybody writes in to ask for
a random fact. We'll give you one proactively right now, folks.
The reason that no living political official nor president in
the United States can have their face on the currency

(54:33):
is entirely because of a Treasury official named Spencer Clark
in eighteen sixty six who went wild and put his
put his own face on the currency while he was
in charge, because Congress sent him a note that just said,
put Clark on the bill and they met, of course
the famous Clark from Lewis and Clark, William Clark, but

(54:56):
Spencer just ran with it. So that's why we can't
have you know, Donald Trump or Barack Obama or Bill
Clinton on the currency. So for that and more random knowledge,
find us out here in the dark Conspiracy at iHeartRadio
dot com.

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