September 11, 2025 • 41 mins
HR prompts an exploration of the world's internet -- and what happens when it fails. Dale pitches the concept of Anunnaki Pirates. Moose shares some insight into cat conversations. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
My name is Matt, my name is Noel.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagin. Most importantly, you
are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want
you to know. If you are listening to our listener
mail program the evening it publishes this is the anniversary
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of September eleventh, as you're hearing this, and we wanted
to take a moment to acknowledge that guys any statements,
any responses, It just felt important that we acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, for sure. I just every time it comes around,
I remember exactly where I was. I think most everybody does.
I was in computer class in high school. One of
those classes really had all the TVs mounted in the
corners of the room, and we saw the you know,
the second plane hit in real time, and I don't know,
I just can't help it. And it's probably not a
(01:22):
hot take, but it just seems like that was when
things kind of started getting real complicated. You know, a
lot of political back and forth, pendulum swings, thinking everything
was all good and then realizing it wasn't and that
there still is this kind of inherent rot in the
world that can't quite put your finger on.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
When the timeline shifted right the Patriot Act, Saudi Arabia,
we have some news about the kingdom.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, when September eleven occurred in the moment, we hopefully
most of us remember in the time, just the way
the political machine put everyone to consider Afghanistan and then
Iraq as the primary folks who were responsible, and that's
why the military went into those two places. And you know,
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there was a war declared on terror because of the
terrible things that occurred on September eleventh. And then it
was acknowledged later that many of the hijackers, at least
according to the official story, were actually members or citizens
of Saudi Arabia. And then there were a lot of
allegations that came forward, an intelligence that was coming forward
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that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia actually had a hand
in sponsoring perhaps the individuals, as well as some folks
higher up in the government were here on planning some
stuff very recently, at least according to ABC News and
according to Axios and several other places reporting in late August,
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a federal judge decided that families of nine to eleven
victim are allowed to sue the country of Saudi Arabia
because of the nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Attacks in a civil court.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Right, How does that work?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Though?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
How do you sue another country when you don't have
like legal systems that align and then it's sort of
like being like having no extradition. I mean, I just
don't quite understand it. It seems more symbolic than anything.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's a boondoggle. Whether or not it ends up being
symbolic is going to ultimately go to the decision of
the courts. Right, but we do know the courts in
that country, the courts in the US which do not
have jurisdiction in these places. So it's not like going
to the Hague. Right. This is again, as we're saying,
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this is civil versus criminal court. We wanted to acknowledge this.
We earlier mentioned the ongoing attempt to answer questions about
the events on September eleventh, two thousand and one. For years,
it's twenty twenty five. As we record on September ninth,
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this is publishing on September eleventh. We have a lot
to get to. We wanted to acknowledge that first.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I'd never say and if you're looking, I don't mean
to hope this doesn't sound any kind of way, but
I've really been enjoying a podcast that looks at the
films of the early two thousands and how they kind
of align with the political climate and specifically kind of
post nine eleven. And it's called Mission Accomplished, and it
is hosted by Brian Rafferty, who is really really smart dude.
(04:34):
It's on the Ringer Network, but they like every episode
he examines two films that came out in the same year,
and through this exploration it kind of looks at the
trajectory of the aftermath of nine to eleven and then
how kind of cinema sort of reflected that, sometimes on purpose,
sometimes by accident. One that I think is absolutely bonkers
good is their comparison, not comparison, but their juxtaposition of
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the film's anchorman and Donnie Darko. Like you know, Donnie
Darko I've always seen as sort of an accidental post
nine to eleven sort of zeitgeisty thing, but it was
written and done way before any of that happened. It's
just interesting the way that stuff can kind of fall
into place. So if you're looking for maybe a more
lighthearted look that also deals with some of the history
(05:17):
but isn't so heavy, I highly recommend this podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
And we want to always support our fellow podcast as
well as our fellow members of the public who are
not making the decisions that the influencers and the world
leaders are making. One of our favorite podcasts. Full disclosure, folks,
(05:40):
is stuff they don't want you to know because it's
literally our job. We cannot do this podcast without members
of the public just like you. This is our listener mail.
We're gonna hear a little bit more about Adunaki, some
disappearances in Guadalajara, some undersea cables, shenanigans, a shout out
(06:03):
to some video games, add some pop culture references. Before
we do any of that, let's say we take a
break for a word from our sponsors and meow want
stock cats?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah yah yah yah yah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's that commercial? Right, miles mix?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Is that automotopia? That's automotopia, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Kind of now right now now in Japan it's nyan
uh of course. Yeah, I didn't know that that was
meant to be the sound that it's the automatopoia there right,
sort of like the it always comes up the way
that the arrested development crew all have a different sound
for what a chicken makes. We've got chachi, chachi, chachi
and key, which is what they say in Germany, by
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the way they say KICKERI ki.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I just love that sort of regional automnopoia. But it
is a human desire to want to, I don't know,
sound out the sounds that animals make, or the sounds
of nature or whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And then check out our series on animal and human
animal communication I should say non human animal and human
animal community.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well that's what this is all about, Ben. We definitely
had a lot of responses to that series for good reason.
It's an interesting topic and people obviously love animals, and
I think my opining about you know, the nature of
cats as sort of like chaos agents yielded a couple
of emails that I thought were interesting, and we're reading
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and then give us a little minute to just kind
of talk about cats and pets and stuff, and maybe
some studies about what the hell cats are actually thinking
when you're calling their names or you know, trying to
communicate with them in any way, shape or form. First off,
we've got a message from moo Oose who asks us
to please call him Moose if we wish, and we do.
(08:04):
I had part of a thought about Vanessa's in an
out game, Vanessa being my gender fluid cat Javanessa Carlton
Williams the third in fact, to give the full title.
He may be asking you to come out and play
the in and out game. Just remind folks, is this
situation where the cat will miamia miam Yamiao sing the
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whole Yo mixed song to be let out and then immediately,
not moments later, do the same thing on the other
side of the door. And I'm like, are you messing
with me? Is this some sort of psychological warfare you're
waging on me? Cat? What is up with you? And
Moose suggests that he may be asking me to come
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out and play like the warriors, or perhaps even go
on a hunt with him. Less likely, he's asking to
be shown where daddy spends all that time when he
heads out, possibilities had not occurred to me. I don't
know if I necessarily believe all of them, but I'd
love to talk about them with you.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Do you think cats think about what we do when
we're not at home? Okay, yeah, I mean you're you're
a cat man. Do tell us tell me about any
experiences with your feline friends that have given you kind
of pause or like made you really think that they
were sort of meta cognating about you a little bit?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Is this a legal inquiry?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Not at all?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Or never?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
All?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The yeah, yeah, you're you're nailing a moose u and
we do wish to call you that. The idea of
feline communication, oddly enough, applies as above so below in
the housecat regimen. Like tigers communicate in a similar way
as does the bobcat, the jaguar, and so on. The
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idea here of your question is object permanence, Noel, does
your cat know when you are gone? Does it wonder
what you do when you are not readily apparent via
sense site touch? We also know, as big big fans
of the canine, that dogs are amazing at pretending you
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have been gone for a decade when you go to
the bathroom or something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So the what's object permanence? Maybe right? Is that appropriate?
I know that's also anthropomorphizing. But when you close the door,
do they know that you're on the other side or
do they think that you vanished never to return?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
They can smell you, that's the true smell you.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So the questions here were the blueprint communicative blueprint that
you're laying out, Moose is essentially correct. We would say
we're not veterinarians. We are clearly based on our earlier series,
not the experts on non human animal communication. But the
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housecat has a definite complex language, and we know this
at the very least we know this because cats communicate
differently with humans than they do with other cats.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, yeah, that might be worth mentioning here. We did
briefly bring up a study that cats, this is Smithsonian
reporting here may recognize their own names, but it doesn't
mean they care. And they studied seventy eight cats, and
researchers concluded that our feline friends can differentiate their names
out of a series of random words. However, their desire
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to respond to those kinds of cues just couldn't be
any any more different than the way dogs are able
to be trained. And I know that I've seen cat
circuses and like this joke about herding cats and like
cats are trainable. But is it just like exponentially more
difficult or does it just require a different set of
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conditioning tools?
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Right?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, that's a great question, sou for anybody who wants
to read more. The study was referencing earlier is from
Toshikazu Hazagawa from University of Tokyo, writing with Atsuko Saito.
This was in twenty nineteen. I believe nol cats recognize
their own names. You can find this easily referenced in
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different places. You can read the full pdf online. The
question of it's funny because it's a very in depth
exploration of whether or not your feline friends care that
you're saying their names. Now, Noel, do you want to
talk a little bit about your cats? I know earlier
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Matt you had shared that you formed a deep bond
in childhood with a cat.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I love my cat, but I just don't think he
gives much of a crap about whether or not I
am comfortable or not like, for example, I make the
bed every single morning, and every time I do it,
the cat just gets on top of it, and then
I'll shoe him off the bed. I put the top
sheet on, he immediately gets back on top of it.
(13:15):
This happens over and over again. I don't feel like
there's any learned. Like I'm obviously upset, I'm obviously like irritated,
but I just don't think that is taking Like what
other form of conditioning or feedback does this animal need
to realize maybe he shouldn't get on the bed when
I'm making the bed.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Well, you're teaching your buckaroo that you're paid particular attention
to a true still attention. We're not cat whisperers here
necessarily we don't yell at the cats, but I don't
think we whisper. Yeah I was, I whisper.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't yell, but I have a perturbed tone of voice.
But Matt, I didn't mean to jump on you. What
was your childhood cat bonding situation and if anything, did
it teach you any any stuff that might be relevant
in this this talk about animal communication or lack there? Up?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Is he talking to me? Sorry, I'm being a cat
I don't care. I'm over here. Sorry, I kind of
heard your questional. I'm over here searching for I don't
know if you guys remember this. When we in the
test Tube days, we briefly made a show with the
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group that I can't even remember their name anymore. It
was a conspiracy cat voiceover.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh, wonderful reference.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I can't find it. I don't remember what it was called.
It was so weird. I know it's on there somewhere.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, there's so many cat and conspiracy videos now on
YouTube that any combination that I'm trying to plug in
just does not find anything related, Matt.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Before we get to inside Baseball, can we tell people
what test Tube was?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
No, we were all together around the test Tube days.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It was like the YouTube incarnation of like Discovery trying
to be cool on the internet, right, like with science stuff.
It was like they took the stuff that how Stuff
Works is already doing, sort of repackaged it under this
sort of hip new brand, and it didn't exactly take off,
but it was cool then. It was well intentioned, right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And innovative, and they tried to make some of us
move out to San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yes, and Berry and it became it became Seeker I
think was the name of the channel after that.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's true, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Anyway, there's a there's a show on YouTube where you
will hear Ben Bowleen doing voiceover as a cat talking
about cat conspiracies.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's incredible and it's all true.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Nothing would surprise me. At some point.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh wait, cat conspiracies. We talked about meol mix at
the top. I didn't realize, guys. Right around September eleven,
December eleventh, two thousand and one, I'm not kidding, not
making this up, the FTC reached an agreement with Ralston
Purina and Nesley. We all know Nesley from earlier when
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Nesley purchased Ralston Purina that produced guess.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What, Yeah mix Yo Mix.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And the whole problem here was that Nesle already created
Ali Cat and the other cat foods they produced Fancy Feast, Friskyes,
Alpo dog food, Come and get It, Mighty Dog, all
these things. The FTC realized, Oh, these guys are going
to have a forty five percent market share on all
dry cat food that exists in the United States, and
(16:45):
they were going to purchase this Ralston's Purina or whatever
it was, for ten point three billion dollars in two
thousand and one, money.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
In person money, not cat money.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, it's different. There is a weird, really conspiracy thing
going on with me Mix, But meow Mix was a
part of a big deal because it was so huge
in both our minds and in our cat's mouths.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And cats are obligate carnivores, so it's not as though
they could turn vegan or have a diet without tannin.
In specific. We also, I think, look, folks, again, we're
mystified by all non human animals and some human animals
to be fair.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
So huge thanks to Moose for that. And just to
wrap up this cat chat here, I just wanted to
piggyback on what Ben was saying about the study and
some of the methodology involved. So Cyito and her teams
is from Smithsonian set out to test the name recognition
skills of seventy nine cats in a series of experiments.
They played a sequence of four neutral words, which were
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all similar in length and cadence to the cat's name,
and they measured their reaction before actually calling the cat
by the name. Results, as you might imagine, were that
when the neutral sounds were played, most of the cats
just kind of zoned out. These cats were demonstrating a
concept defined as habituation, meaning an animal or a human
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will eventually tune out signals that do not benefit or
harm them. But the cats did perk back up at
the sound of their own names. This was measured with
everything from an ear twitch to maybe a head turn,
even if the voice belonged to someone who was not
their master, an unfamiliar voice, perhaps a stranger. So they
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definitely know the name, but unless it's got some kind
of benefit, then they're really not going to do much
about it. And it is funny too from a conditioning
or a classical conditioning perspective. My cats. I have a
feeder for my cat that dispenses food three times a day,
(18:57):
and I've been using it for you know, about almost
six months now, and my cat perks up seconds before
it goes off. It's very much become conditioned to knowing
exactly what time that thing goes off because it goes
off at six am, twelve noon, six pm. And he's
learned the cadence of that and benefits him.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So does it make any early sounds like preparing the
food or something.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Or sort of it makes it. I don't even know
what the sound is. I think it might be the
sound of the food just trickling, you know, into the bowl.
But I swear every time it dispenses, I hear this
weird little sound that almost sounds like a h like
like a little laughing clown or something. It's kind of creepy,
but yeah, there is a sound. It could just be
(19:46):
the sound of it sort of what's the word ratcheting
up kind of like get like going down the chute
and sort of getting like, you know, almost like chambering
around and a pistol or something like that. There's sort
of like a pre sound.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And Vanessa's they're like way before, yeah, okay before, not
way just like right then, oh wow, okay right there.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Anyway, let's take a quick break here, a word from
our sponsor, and then we'll come back with more messages
from you.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And we've returned. We're going to the voicemail system. Guys,
We've got four of them for you today. They're gonna
go quick. A lot of these are just entertaining, and
we think you have cool things to say and are funny.
So here we go. This first message is from Chemo
Ray and it is about the video game we discussed, Populous,
(20:41):
and Chemo is a little hyped about it. So here
we go.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Hey, guys, this is your buddy, Chemo Ray. I was
just listening to the most recent episode of Strange News.
You guys are talking about the game Populous and or
your your somebody had wrote in talking about Populous.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
That was a absolute banger of a game.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
It was.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
It was on the Nintendo. I think it was on
the original Nintendo and it's everything that the messenger said
it was and more. I highly recommend go to your
local vintage game store, buy an old Nintendo and find Populous.
It's one hundred percent worth it. I've spent way too
many hours as a youngster on that game. Love you guys,
(21:28):
you do a great show. Feel free to use this
if you want.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Thanks Boom, Chemo Gray. Hey, and he's right. Support your
local vintage video game store today.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I don't know if we even have one, you know what,
that's not sure. There's a record store here in Atlanta
called Black Habit Records in the East Atlanta Village area
that also sells vintage video games and video game systems.
So if you're looking for that and you're in the
Atlanta area, do check out Black Habit Records.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Heck yeah, do y'all have.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Any vintage system I have been enjoying playing on the
Switch online. You can, you know, play old Nintendo games
in n sixty four games, But I haven't had a
vintage system maybe in my adult life.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well show my hand here. I got several vintage systems
and they still work and they're still awesome, and it's
mostly thanks to Video Game Trader. That's out my way.
They are an awesome vintage game store, and anybody who
ends up in the well North Atlanta area check out
Video Game Trader. It's awesome. We're not sponsored by them,
(22:32):
by the way, sorry, just I think they're.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
A supporting the support your logo business for sure, especially
niche ones like that. Do they also do like other
kind of gaming matt like trading card games or any
like figures or stuff like that, or is it literally
exclusively games video games?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You know it?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know they got that MTG tournament going every Friday
as possible. Let's go. But yeah, shout out to again.
Older video games there still great. They're harder than the
ones you're probably playing right now, unless you're playing silk Song,
because that that junk is incredibly difficult and wonderful. Let's
(23:09):
move on. We've got a quick message here. Let's see.
I'm not really sure what this is. I guess let's
just play it.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
My name is hand Banana.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I just wanted to say, now you well, okay, that's disturbing, strange.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Ah, I was fine with that. I like that hand Banana.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, it's hand Banana. Tonight you That's that's all they got.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Are you sure didn't get cut off there? And we
miss a piece of that message. I'm very very intrigued,
slash confused.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
That was the entirety of the message. We're confused. Uh weird.
I have to go to my neighbor's house and see
how he's doing. Uh, okay, here we go. That is
That is for anybody who knows what hand Banana is. Okay,
don't all right? Good, Well we'll be in the dark.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I'm fine with that. You keep your secrets, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Then let's jump over to Dale. Dale has something to
say about the andw Naki.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Hey, this is Dale Turner, tamer of the basilisk I
just had a theory on the au Naki after listening
to your new episode that maybe them what came here
was pirates and they came here illegally and set all
this stuff up and created us. And so now when
they come back around on its three thy six hundred
(24:28):
year cycle, maybe they'll put it all right what they've
done the formal government. I mean, thanks, have a good one.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
My friend, the Turner phrase them what come here is
my new favorite thing in the whole wide world, and
that's I'm gonna use it from from this point on.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, we love it, and nice work, mister Turner. We
were going to use it, and we hope you do too.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
Them will come here?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Them?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
What'll come?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Then? We'll come here?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
That's so quick?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Whoe the tide?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
There you go, and uh, you know, as far as
Innannaki space pirates, maybe maybe they're gonna make write what
they've done. We'll have to wait and see. Guys. This
is kind of a short one. We've got one more
message here, this time from Flee.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
We know Flee, Flee the basis for the red Hot
chili peppers.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Maybe I don't think so, but this person is Flee
and Flea has a very special message for the fourth
member of our troop.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
Here, so here we go, Hey guys, to Flee from
the Northwest. I just wanted to do a huge shout
out to bleep me here.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Dylan.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
You did a great job at all of these episodes,
all right, even my voicemails. You do a god great job.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
All right, bleeve me you're Dylan crazy all right feet
proud of you and your audio editing ability.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
I just wanted to do a shout out to the
guy in.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The background, you know, appreciate you, Dylan, bleep me here.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
It's been amazing, all.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Right, all right, real quick, first off, thank you Flee. Awesome. Dylan.
Can you weigh in on this. We're putting you on
the spot though, also like.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Flee is by way of giving congratulations and be an
adda boy, you also gave our boy Dylan more work,
but that is what it is.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
And yeah, so Dylan, how would you respond?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Thank you Flee. That really made my day. I'm really
smiling hard right here.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, you should be Man's in as accurate and not
to mention your rude bega prowess with your sound cues
that you've been just mount Man lighting up our lives.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Which we didn't forget about and comes after the break.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes, well then I suppose we will wrap everything up.
Thank you, Flee and Chemo Ray and hand Banana and
Dale Turner. We'll be right back with some rude to begas.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
And we have returned. We're not going to leave you
without a dope bega to dig to age of rude Vega, Dylan,
can you hit it for us?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
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Is there anything you want to say of the world.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Watching your home people, Now that's Clark Pathmaster Golf. It
is time to give up your mad destinys horse. It
is time to big Clarks.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The Rudavegas are Clarks it's a cliffhanger.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Is that like a soilent green as people kind of situation?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Everything is at some point we are back for the
third act of our weekly listener mail segment. We're gonna
hear from a couple of folks. We're gonna go really
quickly before we do file this under We hope we
don't get sued. There's a song I would like to
play a brief clip of that really speaks to the
(28:22):
correspondence we received. You guys ready, yes, imagine having no
running water to drink?
Speaker 11 (28:29):
Did youmacoostataminate the pikes lead until you think? Just think
if the grocery stores close their stalls and they saturate
the streets with takes the Star Marshall law? Would you
be ready for civil law? Could you take the life
of somebody you know? Or have phyllis for necessary?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I got cousins in the military and that was stick
Man off of Dead Press. The song is we want freedom.
We do have I believe approval to play that. This
goes to a message from h are not our HR
guys different HR good note right, thank you? No HR.
(29:07):
You say it is unsettling to think that all that
stands in the way of this message is an unbroken signal.
If this message were to cross an ocean, an underwater
cable would be sending it along. But what if someone
wanted to disconnect a region from the rest of the world.
What if someone wanted to slow or stall communication. Reading
(29:29):
the article below which you reference, HR, I can't speak
to whether this specific act was intentional, but it does
make me think of how vulnerable we all are when
the comms go down. If an attack were to occur
here in the United States, if your phone and internet
went down, what would the day look like for you?
(29:49):
How would that impact your day? How dependent have we
become on being plugged in? How can we prepare for
the possibility of being unplugged? Keep up the great work, guys.
I think about that a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think we all do for Yeah, I mean, everything
would come to a halt, right at least commerce would end.
Even if you had cash on hand and you were
trying to buy something, trade something, You're going to have
problems with the bookkeeping and making sure any company or
individual has their stuff together enough to trade with you
(30:25):
with cold, hard cash.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, think about also, you know the obvious complaints that
happen in a lot of the gaming community are about latency, right,
Oh you didn't know scope me, my guy, This is
just latency. It's not my fault. It's the Internet connection.
The world moves along this nervous system, this spine is
(30:47):
really the best way to put it. And hr We
have explored a lot of shenanigans in the past regarding
this vulnerability. It's a day zero kying of thing, and
there are, as we speak right now, there are intense
(31:07):
efforts both to cut cable coms and to monitor and
preserve those cable coms. We played dead press there because
years ago they were asking a question that a lot
of preppers ask, right, which is, what will you do
when the things that you expect to be consistent are
(31:29):
no longer consistent? You know when full disclosure, folks. When
we were recording this show and soldiered through the height
of the pandemic, we had to learn to record remotely.
And I don't know about you, guys, I think we
all had a moment separately where you felt like an
(31:50):
old school diver in one of those diving suits, and
your cable connection was your air hose, and if the
air hose went out and you were a drift. You
were at sea, right, And this is something that people
need to prepare for as fun as we are at
parties by saying it. I don't know when's the last
(32:13):
time you guys were truly unplucked and for how long?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I can just do it in little bits at a time,
Like I've been doing yoga every morning at the studio
and I leave my phone, you know, in a little cubby.
And I've acknowledged today when I was doing it like
that as a meaningful hour where I hit no connection
to anything and how rare that is. And I do
try to leave it charging in the other room and
things like that, but it's it's really hard. I would
(32:40):
love to do it more.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I never turn it off when I'm not doing this.
I'm playing a video game with kids or poning, no
scoping folks on call of duty. Never stops, baby, I'm
always plugged in. And if you wanted to watch me,
you could just turn on the camera.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You guys, remember MTV unplug That was cool. We should
take some cues from that.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, yeah, a true paragon of personal behavior. Lane Stally
Grave voice Voice.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Being Dead pres You remember we made our book and
then at the same place, we had a book event.
Uh mister Oboma was there talking about his book and
five Principles. Yeah, yeah, man. I got to go there
and actually shake his hand to give him a book
and just be like thank you, dude, And it was incredible.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Uh we do we know that, uh not everything is
for everyone. So hip hop may not be your chosen genre,
but we're we're tremendous fans of it, especially people who
are speaking truth to power. As we're recording right now,
Doha just got bombed, by the way, and it's we're
(33:51):
going to talk about it on Strange News. This happened
in step with the report that you are referring to
h R, which which is the internet disruptions in the
Middle East, causing the tech behemoth Microsoft to warn customers
of and I love this increased latency in connectivity. Everything's fine,
(34:16):
says the flight attendant. Just please put on your oxygen mask.
We were just there.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
That's so crazy, and like we also met a lot
of the dudes who are like big moneyed, you know,
residents of that region who are responsible for laying down
all that infrastructure that's responsible for all that connectivity, all.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
That rises must converge, said Flannery O'Connor.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's cool they let you into their whatever that version
of Illuminati is.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
They did have a big glowing orb like on the Simpsons.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So there is no whistle like a graveyard whistle. There
is no humor like Gallow's humor. This is something that
we called a while ago, and we weren't being prescient.
The writing was on the wall, the cables were already
in the sea. This vital aspect of international communication traverses
(35:15):
by far the most remote and least explored areas of
the world. Mark us, well, hear us well. More stuff
like this will occur statistically. I don't think I mean
such a downer. I don't think we have time, guys,
to go into the excellent message we received from Marissa
(35:38):
Ryt five hundred about the Guadalajara disappearances, which are ongoing.
But for anybody who's been rewatching Breaking Bad and similar stories,
we should do an episode on this. There have been
multiple series touching on the same thing from our colleagues.
(36:00):
Will explore that in depth in an episode. For now,
we're going to end with a little bit of a
palate cleanser. Big thanks to hr big thanks to Chemo Ray, Big,
thanks to ham Banana Dale, big thanks to uh Moose
of course, and extremely reluctant thanks to our returning guest,
(36:23):
Chef Ben. And we say reluctant thanks because you son
of a gun. How dare you are just gonna play it?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Man, I can't wait to hear from Chef Ben.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Oh you say that?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
All right, you say that.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Now we're going to play it out. We're going to
hear it.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
That was Chef Ben in Chicago Friday. Your discussion of
Rudyard Kipling reminded me of an old terrible chill in
the vein of hashtag no pun left behind. Uh person
asks another person, Hey, do you like kibbling? And the
other person responds, I don't know. I've never kippled. You're welcome,
(37:06):
have a good day.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You've never tippled. Yeah, that's why I wanted to say wait.
That's why I like three times I said wait before.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I do enjoy Chef Ben as a person. But that
was abysmal.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That was beautiful. That is poetry. Ten ten no notes
Chef Ben. Council Ben's aside. I did use that in
an earlier meeting. Today, Dylan, will you please confirm.
Speaker 10 (37:34):
It was as bad the second time.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I used.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I used a dad joke that I believe was created
by our dear buddy will Will Pearson that me and
you Ben, we used to go around with him and
do these like road shows about sales and things, and
he always did a little trivia bit and the joke was,
what happens when you give Elsa from Frozen a balloon?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
She'll let it go? And Matt, what were you about
to say?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Just for the slow folks like me in the in
the audience here, that joke is based on using mister
Kipling's name as a verb in.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yes, do you enjoy the act of Kipling?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I don't know because I have yet to kipple.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Okay, So folks, that's that's our show. We're keeping it
brief here. There's a lot of stuff in Flux. We
didn't even get to have our full exploration of what
defines a vintage video game, but we will follow up.
So again, big thank you to big wholehearted thank you
to everyone, but our dear Chicago chef you get a
(38:45):
reluctant thank you, and you get a slow clap poetry.
We can't wait to hear from you folks about all
this and more. Thank you, as always for spending some
time with us. We would love to hang out with
you in the future. How can I do that? You're
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(39:08):
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Speaker 3 (39:15):
It's right, you can, Indy. I just want to add
that that frozen joke that I made that I learned
from Will I tried that on a lady that I
was talking to and I got friend zoned immediately, So
don't make my mistake.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Leave.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
My name is Matt, my name is Noel.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagin. Most importantly, you
are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want
you to know. If you are listening to our listener
mail program the evening it publishes this is the anniversary
(00:50):
of September eleventh, as you're hearing this, and we wanted
to take a moment to acknowledge that guys any statements,
any responses, It just felt important that we acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, for sure. I just every time it comes around,
I remember exactly where I was. I think most everybody does.
I was in computer class in high school. One of
those classes really had all the TVs mounted in the
corners of the room, and we saw the you know,
the second plane hit in real time, and I don't know,
I just can't help it. And it's probably not a
(01:22):
hot take, but it just seems like that was when
things kind of started getting real complicated. You know, a
lot of political back and forth, pendulum swings, thinking everything
was all good and then realizing it wasn't and that
there still is this kind of inherent rot in the
world that can't quite put your finger on.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
When the timeline shifted right the Patriot Act, Saudi Arabia,
we have some news about the kingdom.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, when September eleven occurred in the moment, we hopefully
most of us remember in the time, just the way
the political machine put everyone to consider Afghanistan and then
Iraq as the primary folks who were responsible, and that's
why the military went into those two places. And you know,
(02:11):
there was a war declared on terror because of the
terrible things that occurred on September eleventh. And then it
was acknowledged later that many of the hijackers, at least
according to the official story, were actually members or citizens
of Saudi Arabia. And then there were a lot of
allegations that came forward, an intelligence that was coming forward
(02:33):
that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia actually had a hand
in sponsoring perhaps the individuals, as well as some folks
higher up in the government were here on planning some
stuff very recently, at least according to ABC News and
according to Axios and several other places reporting in late August,
(02:56):
a federal judge decided that families of nine to eleven
victim are allowed to sue the country of Saudi Arabia
because of the nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Attacks in a civil court.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Right, How does that work?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Though?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
How do you sue another country when you don't have
like legal systems that align and then it's sort of
like being like having no extradition. I mean, I just
don't quite understand it. It seems more symbolic than anything.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's a boondoggle. Whether or not it ends up being
symbolic is going to ultimately go to the decision of
the courts. Right, but we do know the courts in
that country, the courts in the US which do not
have jurisdiction in these places. So it's not like going
to the Hague. Right. This is again, as we're saying,
(03:41):
this is civil versus criminal court. We wanted to acknowledge this.
We earlier mentioned the ongoing attempt to answer questions about
the events on September eleventh, two thousand and one. For years,
it's twenty twenty five. As we record on September ninth,
(04:02):
this is publishing on September eleventh. We have a lot
to get to. We wanted to acknowledge that first.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I'd never say and if you're looking, I don't mean
to hope this doesn't sound any kind of way, but
I've really been enjoying a podcast that looks at the
films of the early two thousands and how they kind
of align with the political climate and specifically kind of
post nine eleven. And it's called Mission Accomplished, and it
is hosted by Brian Rafferty, who is really really smart dude.
(04:34):
It's on the Ringer Network, but they like every episode
he examines two films that came out in the same year,
and through this exploration it kind of looks at the
trajectory of the aftermath of nine to eleven and then
how kind of cinema sort of reflected that, sometimes on purpose,
sometimes by accident. One that I think is absolutely bonkers
good is their comparison, not comparison, but their juxtaposition of
(04:56):
the film's anchorman and Donnie Darko. Like you know, Donnie
Darko I've always seen as sort of an accidental post
nine to eleven sort of zeitgeisty thing, but it was
written and done way before any of that happened. It's
just interesting the way that stuff can kind of fall
into place. So if you're looking for maybe a more
lighthearted look that also deals with some of the history
(05:17):
but isn't so heavy, I highly recommend this podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
And we want to always support our fellow podcast as
well as our fellow members of the public who are
not making the decisions that the influencers and the world
leaders are making. One of our favorite podcasts. Full disclosure, folks,
(05:40):
is stuff they don't want you to know because it's
literally our job. We cannot do this podcast without members
of the public just like you. This is our listener mail.
We're gonna hear a little bit more about Adunaki, some
disappearances in Guadalajara, some undersea cables, shenanigans, a shout out
(06:03):
to some video games, add some pop culture references. Before
we do any of that, let's say we take a
break for a word from our sponsors and meow want
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Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah yah yah yah yah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's that commercial? Right, miles mix?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Is that automotopia? That's automotopia, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Kind of now right now now in Japan it's nyan
uh of course. Yeah, I didn't know that that was
meant to be the sound that it's the automatopoia there right,
sort of like the it always comes up the way
that the arrested development crew all have a different sound
for what a chicken makes. We've got chachi, chachi, chachi
and key, which is what they say in Germany, by
(06:59):
the way they say KICKERI ki.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I just love that sort of regional automnopoia. But it
is a human desire to want to, I don't know,
sound out the sounds that animals make, or the sounds
of nature or whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And then check out our series on animal and human
animal communication I should say non human animal and human
animal community.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well that's what this is all about, Ben. We definitely
had a lot of responses to that series for good reason.
It's an interesting topic and people obviously love animals, and
I think my opining about you know, the nature of
cats as sort of like chaos agents yielded a couple
of emails that I thought were interesting, and we're reading
(07:43):
and then give us a little minute to just kind
of talk about cats and pets and stuff, and maybe
some studies about what the hell cats are actually thinking
when you're calling their names or you know, trying to
communicate with them in any way, shape or form. First off,
we've got a message from moo Oose who asks us
to please call him Moose if we wish, and we do.
(08:04):
I had part of a thought about Vanessa's in an
out game, Vanessa being my gender fluid cat Javanessa Carlton
Williams the third in fact, to give the full title.
He may be asking you to come out and play
the in and out game. Just remind folks, is this
situation where the cat will miamia miam Yamiao sing the
(08:25):
whole Yo mixed song to be let out and then immediately,
not moments later, do the same thing on the other
side of the door. And I'm like, are you messing
with me? Is this some sort of psychological warfare you're
waging on me? Cat? What is up with you? And
Moose suggests that he may be asking me to come
(08:46):
out and play like the warriors, or perhaps even go
on a hunt with him. Less likely, he's asking to
be shown where daddy spends all that time when he
heads out, possibilities had not occurred to me. I don't
know if I necessarily believe all of them, but I'd
love to talk about them with you.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Do you think cats think about what we do when
we're not at home? Okay, yeah, I mean you're you're
a cat man. Do tell us tell me about any
experiences with your feline friends that have given you kind
of pause or like made you really think that they
were sort of meta cognating about you a little bit?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Is this a legal inquiry?
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Not at all?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Or never?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
All?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The yeah, yeah, you're you're nailing a moose u and
we do wish to call you that. The idea of
feline communication, oddly enough, applies as above so below in
the housecat regimen. Like tigers communicate in a similar way
as does the bobcat, the jaguar, and so on. The
(09:54):
idea here of your question is object permanence, Noel, does
your cat know when you are gone? Does it wonder
what you do when you are not readily apparent via
sense site touch? We also know, as big big fans
of the canine, that dogs are amazing at pretending you
(10:19):
have been gone for a decade when you go to
the bathroom or something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So the what's object permanence? Maybe right? Is that appropriate?
I know that's also anthropomorphizing. But when you close the door,
do they know that you're on the other side or
do they think that you vanished never to return?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
They can smell you, that's the true smell you.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So the questions here were the blueprint communicative blueprint that
you're laying out, Moose is essentially correct. We would say
we're not veterinarians. We are clearly based on our earlier series,
not the experts on non human animal communication. But the
(11:02):
housecat has a definite complex language, and we know this
at the very least we know this because cats communicate
differently with humans than they do with other cats.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, yeah, that might be worth mentioning here. We did
briefly bring up a study that cats, this is Smithsonian
reporting here may recognize their own names, but it doesn't
mean they care. And they studied seventy eight cats, and
researchers concluded that our feline friends can differentiate their names
out of a series of random words. However, their desire
(11:39):
to respond to those kinds of cues just couldn't be
any any more different than the way dogs are able
to be trained. And I know that I've seen cat
circuses and like this joke about herding cats and like
cats are trainable. But is it just like exponentially more
difficult or does it just require a different set of
(12:01):
conditioning tools?
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Right?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, that's a great question, sou for anybody who wants
to read more. The study was referencing earlier is from
Toshikazu Hazagawa from University of Tokyo, writing with Atsuko Saito.
This was in twenty nineteen. I believe nol cats recognize
their own names. You can find this easily referenced in
(12:28):
different places. You can read the full pdf online. The
question of it's funny because it's a very in depth
exploration of whether or not your feline friends care that
you're saying their names. Now, Noel, do you want to
talk a little bit about your cats? I know earlier
(12:49):
Matt you had shared that you formed a deep bond
in childhood with a cat.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I love my cat, but I just don't think he
gives much of a crap about whether or not I
am comfortable or not like, for example, I make the
bed every single morning, and every time I do it,
the cat just gets on top of it, and then
I'll shoe him off the bed. I put the top
sheet on, he immediately gets back on top of it.
(13:15):
This happens over and over again. I don't feel like
there's any learned. Like I'm obviously upset, I'm obviously like irritated,
but I just don't think that is taking Like what
other form of conditioning or feedback does this animal need
to realize maybe he shouldn't get on the bed when
I'm making the bed.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Well, you're teaching your buckaroo that you're paid particular attention
to a true still attention. We're not cat whisperers here
necessarily we don't yell at the cats, but I don't
think we whisper. Yeah I was, I whisper.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't yell, but I have a perturbed tone of voice.
But Matt, I didn't mean to jump on you. What
was your childhood cat bonding situation and if anything, did
it teach you any any stuff that might be relevant
in this this talk about animal communication or lack there? Up?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Is he talking to me? Sorry, I'm being a cat
I don't care. I'm over here. Sorry, I kind of
heard your questional. I'm over here searching for I don't
know if you guys remember this. When we in the
test Tube days, we briefly made a show with the
(14:27):
group that I can't even remember their name anymore. It
was a conspiracy cat voiceover.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh, wonderful reference.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I can't find it. I don't remember what it was called.
It was so weird. I know it's on there somewhere.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, there's so many cat and conspiracy videos now on
YouTube that any combination that I'm trying to plug in
just does not find anything related, Matt.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Before we get to inside Baseball, can we tell people
what test Tube was?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
No, we were all together around the test Tube days.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It was like the YouTube incarnation of like Discovery trying
to be cool on the internet, right, like with science stuff.
It was like they took the stuff that how Stuff
Works is already doing, sort of repackaged it under this
sort of hip new brand, and it didn't exactly take off,
but it was cool then. It was well intentioned, right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And innovative, and they tried to make some of us
move out to San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yes, and Berry and it became it became Seeker I
think was the name of the channel after that.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's true, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Anyway, there's a there's a show on YouTube where you
will hear Ben Bowleen doing voiceover as a cat talking
about cat conspiracies.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's incredible and it's all true.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Nothing would surprise me. At some point.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh wait, cat conspiracies. We talked about meol mix at
the top. I didn't realize, guys. Right around September eleven,
December eleventh, two thousand and one, I'm not kidding, not
making this up, the FTC reached an agreement with Ralston
Purina and Nesley. We all know Nesley from earlier when
(16:15):
Nesley purchased Ralston Purina that produced guess.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What, Yeah mix Yo Mix.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And the whole problem here was that Nesle already created
Ali Cat and the other cat foods they produced Fancy Feast, Friskyes,
Alpo dog food, Come and get It, Mighty Dog, all
these things. The FTC realized, Oh, these guys are going
to have a forty five percent market share on all
dry cat food that exists in the United States, and
(16:45):
they were going to purchase this Ralston's Purina or whatever
it was, for ten point three billion dollars in two
thousand and one, money.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
In person money, not cat money.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, it's different. There is a weird, really conspiracy thing
going on with me Mix, But meow Mix was a
part of a big deal because it was so huge
in both our minds and in our cat's mouths.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And cats are obligate carnivores, so it's not as though
they could turn vegan or have a diet without tannin.
In specific. We also, I think, look, folks, again, we're
mystified by all non human animals and some human animals
to be fair.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
So huge thanks to Moose for that. And just to
wrap up this cat chat here, I just wanted to
piggyback on what Ben was saying about the study and
some of the methodology involved. So Cyito and her teams
is from Smithsonian set out to test the name recognition
skills of seventy nine cats in a series of experiments.
They played a sequence of four neutral words, which were
(17:53):
all similar in length and cadence to the cat's name,
and they measured their reaction before actually calling the cat
by the name. Results, as you might imagine, were that
when the neutral sounds were played, most of the cats
just kind of zoned out. These cats were demonstrating a
concept defined as habituation, meaning an animal or a human
(18:13):
will eventually tune out signals that do not benefit or
harm them. But the cats did perk back up at
the sound of their own names. This was measured with
everything from an ear twitch to maybe a head turn,
even if the voice belonged to someone who was not
their master, an unfamiliar voice, perhaps a stranger. So they
(18:36):
definitely know the name, but unless it's got some kind
of benefit, then they're really not going to do much
about it. And it is funny too from a conditioning
or a classical conditioning perspective. My cats. I have a
feeder for my cat that dispenses food three times a day,
(18:57):
and I've been using it for you know, about almost
six months now, and my cat perks up seconds before
it goes off. It's very much become conditioned to knowing
exactly what time that thing goes off because it goes
off at six am, twelve noon, six pm. And he's
learned the cadence of that and benefits him.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So does it make any early sounds like preparing the
food or something.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Or sort of it makes it. I don't even know
what the sound is. I think it might be the
sound of the food just trickling, you know, into the bowl.
But I swear every time it dispenses, I hear this
weird little sound that almost sounds like a h like
like a little laughing clown or something. It's kind of creepy,
but yeah, there is a sound. It could just be
(19:46):
the sound of it sort of what's the word ratcheting
up kind of like get like going down the chute
and sort of getting like, you know, almost like chambering
around and a pistol or something like that. There's sort
of like a pre sound.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And Vanessa's they're like way before, yeah, okay before, not
way just like right then, oh wow, okay right there.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Anyway, let's take a quick break here, a word from
our sponsor, and then we'll come back with more messages
from you.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And we've returned. We're going to the voicemail system. Guys,
We've got four of them for you today. They're gonna
go quick. A lot of these are just entertaining, and
we think you have cool things to say and are funny.
So here we go. This first message is from Chemo
Ray and it is about the video game we discussed, Populous,
(20:41):
and Chemo is a little hyped about it. So here
we go.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Hey, guys, this is your buddy, Chemo Ray. I was
just listening to the most recent episode of Strange News.
You guys are talking about the game Populous and or
your your somebody had wrote in talking about Populous.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
That was a absolute banger of a game.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
It was.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
It was on the Nintendo. I think it was on
the original Nintendo and it's everything that the messenger said
it was and more. I highly recommend go to your
local vintage game store, buy an old Nintendo and find Populous.
It's one hundred percent worth it. I've spent way too
many hours as a youngster on that game. Love you guys,
(21:28):
you do a great show. Feel free to use this
if you want.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Thanks Boom, Chemo Gray. Hey, and he's right. Support your
local vintage video game store today.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I don't know if we even have one, you know what,
that's not sure. There's a record store here in Atlanta
called Black Habit Records in the East Atlanta Village area
that also sells vintage video games and video game systems.
So if you're looking for that and you're in the
Atlanta area, do check out Black Habit Records.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Heck yeah, do y'all have.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Any vintage system I have been enjoying playing on the
Switch online. You can, you know, play old Nintendo games
in n sixty four games, But I haven't had a
vintage system maybe in my adult life.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well show my hand here. I got several vintage systems
and they still work and they're still awesome, and it's
mostly thanks to Video Game Trader. That's out my way.
They are an awesome vintage game store, and anybody who
ends up in the well North Atlanta area check out
Video Game Trader. It's awesome. We're not sponsored by them,
(22:32):
by the way, sorry, just I think they're.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
A supporting the support your logo business for sure, especially
niche ones like that. Do they also do like other
kind of gaming matt like trading card games or any
like figures or stuff like that, or is it literally
exclusively games video games?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You know it?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know they got that MTG tournament going every Friday
as possible. Let's go. But yeah, shout out to again.
Older video games there still great. They're harder than the
ones you're probably playing right now, unless you're playing silk Song,
because that that junk is incredibly difficult and wonderful. Let's
(23:09):
move on. We've got a quick message here. Let's see.
I'm not really sure what this is. I guess let's
just play it.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
My name is hand Banana.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I just wanted to say, now you well, okay, that's disturbing, strange.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Ah, I was fine with that. I like that hand Banana.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, it's hand Banana. Tonight you That's that's all they got.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Are you sure didn't get cut off there? And we
miss a piece of that message. I'm very very intrigued,
slash confused.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
That was the entirety of the message. We're confused. Uh weird.
I have to go to my neighbor's house and see
how he's doing. Uh, okay, here we go. That is
That is for anybody who knows what hand Banana is. Okay,
don't all right? Good, Well we'll be in the dark.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I'm fine with that. You keep your secrets, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Then let's jump over to Dale. Dale has something to
say about the andw Naki.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Hey, this is Dale Turner, tamer of the basilisk I
just had a theory on the au Naki after listening
to your new episode that maybe them what came here
was pirates and they came here illegally and set all
this stuff up and created us. And so now when
they come back around on its three thy six hundred
(24:28):
year cycle, maybe they'll put it all right what they've
done the formal government. I mean, thanks, have a good one.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
My friend, the Turner phrase them what come here is
my new favorite thing in the whole wide world, and
that's I'm gonna use it from from this point on.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, we love it, and nice work, mister Turner. We
were going to use it, and we hope you do too.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
Them will come here?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Them?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
What'll come?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Then? We'll come here?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
That's so quick?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Whoe the tide?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
There you go, and uh, you know, as far as
Innannaki space pirates, maybe maybe they're gonna make write what
they've done. We'll have to wait and see. Guys. This
is kind of a short one. We've got one more
message here, this time from Flee.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
We know Flee, Flee the basis for the red Hot
chili peppers.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Maybe I don't think so, but this person is Flee
and Flea has a very special message for the fourth
member of our troop.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
Here, so here we go, Hey guys, to Flee from
the Northwest. I just wanted to do a huge shout
out to bleep me here.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Dylan.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
You did a great job at all of these episodes,
all right, even my voicemails. You do a god great job.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
All right, bleeve me you're Dylan crazy all right feet
proud of you and your audio editing ability.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
I just wanted to do a shout out to the
guy in.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The background, you know, appreciate you, Dylan, bleep me here.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
It's been amazing, all.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Right, all right, real quick, first off, thank you Flee. Awesome. Dylan.
Can you weigh in on this. We're putting you on
the spot though, also like.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Flee is by way of giving congratulations and be an
adda boy, you also gave our boy Dylan more work,
but that is what it is.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
And yeah, so Dylan, how would you respond?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Thank you Flee. That really made my day. I'm really
smiling hard right here.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, you should be Man's in as accurate and not
to mention your rude bega prowess with your sound cues
that you've been just mount Man lighting up our lives.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Which we didn't forget about and comes after the break.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes, well then I suppose we will wrap everything up.
Thank you, Flee and Chemo Ray and hand Banana and
Dale Turner. We'll be right back with some rude to begas.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
And we have returned. We're not going to leave you
without a dope bega to dig to age of rude Vega, Dylan,
can you hit it for us?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
If you're just joining us. We're here on the eighteenth
Green watching Clark set up for his putt. Clark has
been the clear favorite today, but the recent months have
not been without controversy. Just last week he was in
a highly publicized up crash. Oh hold on, here's the
approach and yep, he's done at folks, Clark has become
the first extraterrestrial to run the Masters. Let's go live
(27:28):
to Chip Diggins, who's down on the green with Clark.
Clark congratulations. Today is a day for the history books.
Is there anything you want to say of the world.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Watching your home people, Now that's Clark Pathmaster Golf. It
is time to give up your mad destinys horse. It
is time to big Clarks.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The Rudavegas are Clarks it's a cliffhanger.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Is that like a soilent green as people kind of situation?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Everything is at some point we are back for the
third act of our weekly listener mail segment. We're gonna
hear from a couple of folks. We're gonna go really
quickly before we do file this under We hope we
don't get sued. There's a song I would like to
play a brief clip of that really speaks to the
(28:22):
correspondence we received. You guys ready, yes, imagine having no
running water to drink?
Speaker 11 (28:29):
Did youmacoostataminate the pikes lead until you think? Just think
if the grocery stores close their stalls and they saturate
the streets with takes the Star Marshall law? Would you
be ready for civil law? Could you take the life
of somebody you know? Or have phyllis for necessary?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I got cousins in the military and that was stick
Man off of Dead Press. The song is we want freedom.
We do have I believe approval to play that. This
goes to a message from h are not our HR
guys different HR good note right, thank you? No HR.
(29:07):
You say it is unsettling to think that all that
stands in the way of this message is an unbroken signal.
If this message were to cross an ocean, an underwater
cable would be sending it along. But what if someone
wanted to disconnect a region from the rest of the world.
What if someone wanted to slow or stall communication. Reading
(29:29):
the article below which you reference, HR, I can't speak
to whether this specific act was intentional, but it does
make me think of how vulnerable we all are when
the comms go down. If an attack were to occur
here in the United States, if your phone and internet
went down, what would the day look like for you?
(29:49):
How would that impact your day? How dependent have we
become on being plugged in? How can we prepare for
the possibility of being unplugged? Keep up the great work, guys.
I think about that a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think we all do for Yeah, I mean, everything
would come to a halt, right at least commerce would end.
Even if you had cash on hand and you were
trying to buy something, trade something, You're going to have
problems with the bookkeeping and making sure any company or
individual has their stuff together enough to trade with you
(30:25):
with cold, hard cash.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, think about also, you know the obvious complaints that
happen in a lot of the gaming community are about latency, right,
Oh you didn't know scope me, my guy, This is
just latency. It's not my fault. It's the Internet connection.
The world moves along this nervous system, this spine is
(30:47):
really the best way to put it. And hr We
have explored a lot of shenanigans in the past regarding
this vulnerability. It's a day zero kying of thing, and
there are, as we speak right now, there are intense
(31:07):
efforts both to cut cable coms and to monitor and
preserve those cable coms. We played dead press there because
years ago they were asking a question that a lot
of preppers ask, right, which is, what will you do
when the things that you expect to be consistent are
(31:29):
no longer consistent? You know when full disclosure, folks. When
we were recording this show and soldiered through the height
of the pandemic, we had to learn to record remotely.
And I don't know about you, guys, I think we
all had a moment separately where you felt like an
(31:50):
old school diver in one of those diving suits, and
your cable connection was your air hose, and if the
air hose went out and you were a drift. You
were at sea, right, And this is something that people
need to prepare for as fun as we are at
parties by saying it. I don't know when's the last
(32:13):
time you guys were truly unplucked and for how long?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I can just do it in little bits at a time,
Like I've been doing yoga every morning at the studio
and I leave my phone, you know, in a little cubby.
And I've acknowledged today when I was doing it like
that as a meaningful hour where I hit no connection
to anything and how rare that is. And I do
try to leave it charging in the other room and
things like that, but it's it's really hard. I would
(32:40):
love to do it more.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I never turn it off when I'm not doing this.
I'm playing a video game with kids or poning, no
scoping folks on call of duty. Never stops, baby, I'm
always plugged in. And if you wanted to watch me,
you could just turn on the camera.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You guys, remember MTV unplug That was cool. We should
take some cues from that.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, yeah, a true paragon of personal behavior. Lane Stally
Grave voice Voice.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Being Dead pres You remember we made our book and
then at the same place, we had a book event.
Uh mister Oboma was there talking about his book and
five Principles. Yeah, yeah, man. I got to go there
and actually shake his hand to give him a book
and just be like thank you, dude, And it was incredible.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Uh we do we know that, uh not everything is
for everyone. So hip hop may not be your chosen genre,
but we're we're tremendous fans of it, especially people who
are speaking truth to power. As we're recording right now,
Doha just got bombed, by the way, and it's we're
(33:51):
going to talk about it on Strange News. This happened
in step with the report that you are referring to
h R, which which is the internet disruptions in the
Middle East, causing the tech behemoth Microsoft to warn customers
of and I love this increased latency in connectivity. Everything's fine,
(34:16):
says the flight attendant. Just please put on your oxygen mask.
We were just there.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
That's so crazy, and like we also met a lot
of the dudes who are like big moneyed, you know,
residents of that region who are responsible for laying down
all that infrastructure that's responsible for all that connectivity, all.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
That rises must converge, said Flannery O'Connor.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's cool they let you into their whatever that version
of Illuminati is.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
They did have a big glowing orb like on the Simpsons.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So there is no whistle like a graveyard whistle. There
is no humor like Gallow's humor. This is something that
we called a while ago, and we weren't being prescient.
The writing was on the wall, the cables were already
in the sea. This vital aspect of international communication traverses
(35:15):
by far the most remote and least explored areas of
the world. Mark us, well, hear us well. More stuff
like this will occur statistically. I don't think I mean
such a downer. I don't think we have time, guys,
to go into the excellent message we received from Marissa
(35:38):
Ryt five hundred about the Guadalajara disappearances, which are ongoing.
But for anybody who's been rewatching Breaking Bad and similar stories,
we should do an episode on this. There have been
multiple series touching on the same thing from our colleagues.
(36:00):
Will explore that in depth in an episode. For now,
we're going to end with a little bit of a
palate cleanser. Big thanks to hr big thanks to Chemo Ray, Big,
thanks to ham Banana Dale, big thanks to uh Moose
of course, and extremely reluctant thanks to our returning guest,
(36:23):
Chef Ben. And we say reluctant thanks because you son
of a gun. How dare you are just gonna play it?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Man, I can't wait to hear from Chef Ben.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Oh you say that?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
All right, you say that.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Now we're going to play it out. We're going to
hear it.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
That was Chef Ben in Chicago Friday. Your discussion of
Rudyard Kipling reminded me of an old terrible chill in
the vein of hashtag no pun left behind. Uh person
asks another person, Hey, do you like kibbling? And the
other person responds, I don't know. I've never kippled. You're welcome,
(37:06):
have a good day.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You've never tippled. Yeah, that's why I wanted to say wait.
That's why I like three times I said wait before.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I do enjoy Chef Ben as a person. But that
was abysmal.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That was beautiful. That is poetry. Ten ten no notes
Chef Ben. Council Ben's aside. I did use that in
an earlier meeting. Today, Dylan, will you please confirm.
Speaker 10 (37:34):
It was as bad the second time.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I used.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I used a dad joke that I believe was created
by our dear buddy will Will Pearson that me and
you Ben, we used to go around with him and
do these like road shows about sales and things, and
he always did a little trivia bit and the joke was,
what happens when you give Elsa from Frozen a balloon?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
She'll let it go? And Matt, what were you about
to say?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Just for the slow folks like me in the in
the audience here, that joke is based on using mister
Kipling's name as a verb in.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yes, do you enjoy the act of Kipling?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I don't know because I have yet to kipple.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Okay, So folks, that's that's our show. We're keeping it
brief here. There's a lot of stuff in Flux. We
didn't even get to have our full exploration of what
defines a vintage video game, but we will follow up.
So again, big thank you to big wholehearted thank you
to everyone, but our dear Chicago chef you get a
(38:45):
reluctant thank you, and you get a slow clap poetry.
We can't wait to hear from you folks about all
this and more. Thank you, as always for spending some
time with us. We would love to hang out with
you in the future. How can I do that? You're
asking yourselves, Well, the answers are easy and trifold. You
(39:08):
can call us on a telephone. You can always find
us on an email for a random fact, and you
can find us on the lines.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
It's right, you can, Indy. I just want to add
that that frozen joke that I made that I learned
from Will I tried that on a lady that I
was talking to and I got friend zoned immediately, So
don't make my mistake.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Leave.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
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Speaker 4 (40:09):
We are the entities that read each piece of correspondence.
We receive. The big deal with vintage as a concept
for video games or for anything is that's simply a
matter of time. So if you wish for a vintage
video game console, simply hold on to the ones that
you have, the same way that if you keep a
(40:30):
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