Companies are increasingly interested in infiltrating your dreams, science proves magic mushrooms physically repair parts of the brain, and a cryptocurrency scandal rocks the world of gaming. All this and more in this week's Strange News.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.
(00:25):
My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called
me Ben, and we are joined as always with our
super producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly,
you are you. You are here, and that makes this
the stuff they don't want you to know. It is
the top of the week, which means it is time
for some strange news. Before we begin today, I'd like
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to extend a hearty congratulations to the people of Iceland
who have officially concluded some some great results from their
recent experimentation. And with the four day work week, it's
something a lot of people talk about. Uh, it's something
that I think a lot of people who have a
five day work week are big fans of personally. So
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if you were in Iceland, let us know, tell us
how it's going. Kudos to you. You might be listening
to this on your extra day off. Way to make
socialism work right scenario? Is there listening to it while
they're at work? For one of those days, there we go.
And it's it's funny because for people outside of the US,
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one of the only times that the average um U
S employee is going to get a an abbreviated week
is going to be due to a holiday. Like recently,
the US observed July four, which is the celebration of
the country's independence from the British, and that meant that
(01:54):
we all got a Monday off, well off, the four
of us, right right right, Yeah, it's also uh, it's
fourth of July a k A amateur hour. This is
what I like to refer to it as people just
don't know how to act ben uh. And specifically in
San Diego, apparently there we're all commit in California in general,
(02:17):
you know how flammable things are. They're just all kinds
of horror stories about people being very irresponsible with fireworks.
And apparently in the San Diego fireworks display, some error
lad to all of them going off at once. What
was supposed to be like a thirty to forty minute display.
They all just blasted at once, which is probably pretty cool,
but then also it's kind of like, okay, that was
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that was a little quick, but also kind of scary
if you were nearby. Imagine, Yeah, and it gives authoritarians
yet another chance to say, see what happens when you
have a little bit of freedom. So this is I mean,
it's like, it's part of the reason why I don't
particularly care for the phrase slippery slope. When you're using
it in a figurative sense. Every slope is slipper. It's
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like it's like saying atm machin ervin number to imply otherwise.
But at this point we cannot wait to share with
you some of these strange stories we encountered when last
we spoke. Fellow conspiracy realist, We're diving into the world
of psychedelics, We're diving into the world of fraud, uh,
(03:21):
and we are diving into the troubling future of your dreams. Matt,
can you tell by my intonation I'm kind of okay, yeah,
oh yeah, no totally. And I'm just thinking about last
week and just as an up day for everyone, birds
still are not real, uh, at least according to that group. Okay,
(03:41):
so thank you for that. Man. Of course, we've got
quite a few messages about that. But yes, Ben, we
are heading into the world of dreams, and not just
the cool ones, the lucid ones where you do whatever
you want, uh, the dreams where advertisements play on a
loop NonStop for the rest of your dreams. This instantly
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makes me think of that Black Mirror episode twenty million merits.
I think that's what it's called, where you have to
like pay tokens essentially to shut off the advertisements. Not
that happened in your dreams, that just happened in your
waking life, but you you can't look away, and if
you close your eyes at like, you know, hanks at
you and forces you to look and finish the ad
unless you pay to have it suspended. I I'm sorry
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not to interrupted that them getting serious Black Mirror vibes here.
I'm I'm excited about this when too meant because I
think we were both reading about it fairly in depth
a clock Sometimes it feels like we share the same
strange radar because this is something this kind of science
before it's like we're seeing the early stages of commercializing it.
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But this kind of science, sure we'll talk about has
been a goal of a lot of research institutions, government
and private for some time. It's just kind of like
the story with cloud seating. Uh it's not yet as
sophisticated or as targeted as people would like it to be,
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but that that may change pretty soon. Uh yes, and
we are not in black mirror territory as of this moment.
But what we're going to discuss is a slope which
is inherently slippery just by its very nature. Okay, so um,
We're gonna begin with a story here out of The
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Guardian titled nightmare scenario scenario If you're nasty, Jesus, keep
it alarm as advertisers seek to plug into our dreams,
and here are just the first few paragraphs. When brewing
giant Cores launched a new advertising campaign earlier this year,
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the format came as a surprise to many. The company
was planning to infiltrate people's dreams to get them to
buy and presumably drink, Cores beer. By the way, pulling
myself out of the article here, I am a fan,
of course it really it really does go down easy
when it comes to drinkable beers. Cores is one of
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those beers that, you know, it gets a hard time
by some folks who might consider themselves cicerones, which is
the beer equivalent of a small ya for why uh yeah,
but it's uh, it's I feel like, if you're paying
and you're being responsible, then drink which you want that
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this kind of, this kind of approach seems unusual for
a beer that many people do not consider top tier,
you know, they consider it like a barbecue kicking, kicking
back in the backyard kind of beer. Yes, if you
travel to New Jersey and hang out with my in laws,
Cores is the beer of choice. And I wonder how
much of that has to do with their advertising campaigns
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when I just instinctive when I think about Cores, I
think about that can with the Mountains, the Rocky Mountains
cast the Rockies. Isn't that their official all? I all
I know is what I what. The images that are
conjured up when I think about Cores are very very refreshing,
like just from there already regular old advertising campaigns. Right,
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But if we jump to what they're trying to do now,
I'm gonna go back to that article. It says Cores
encouraged people to watch a short online video before going
to sleep and then play an eight hour sound escape
through the night, so while they're sleeping, and if successful.
This quote targeted dream incubation would trigger refreshing dreams of Cours,
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according to the company. And yeah, well first these first
this this is something that can be real science. Yes,
very diplomatic, it can certainly be real science. It's definitely
a weird science. Is this. This is like like implanting
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subliminal messages in your mind that carry over into your
dreams and sort of influence Dove. But in this case,
it's not subliminal per se, because in that in that scenario,
you're generally being presented with something subliminally that you have
no idea. Yeah, this is this is something you choose
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to do so um in in this campaign, Cores could
not make you do this. You had to voluntarily watch
a video then listen to this eight hour soundscape as
they call it. Um it's it's really interesting stuff. And
they did this in January of this year alongside the
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Super Bowl rather than you know, paying for this giant commercial,
which they couldn't do because this other beer company kind
of has the law on Super Bowl beer commercially trying
Natty ice yea with the horses with the horses right
pass blue ribbon? Yes, uh, and hey that's an award
winning beer guys. Um, sorry, sorry for everybody who doesn't
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drink beer or is too young to, so they're all
enjoyed at beer is such a silly concept to be
But but like the you know, the names, the histories,
that's a whole another show itself. But what you're what
you're talking about is uh kind of leveraging those those
pre existing associations, right, like the sensation of hot or cold,
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right the taste, which you know some people enjoy, some
people hate, probably the smell right there there. There are
a lot of ways this could go. So, Matt, do
we have access to this soundscape for clip purposes or
is this like a you only got it if you
signed up for the pilot kind of program. I I've
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been able to find the raw files. I'm sure they
exist somewhere online. I wasn't able to find them. I could.
You can't find the original link that was shared when
this campaign was happening in January, but you can. It'll
just take you to the cores what is it, the
Molson Coreps website and yeah, the Molson Corps website, like
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will tell you about it. And then you've got some
videos of like how they did how they did this
whole thing and parts of the video, but I haven't
been able to find that soundscape. UM, let me know
if you guys happened upon it somewhere I was looking
for to there's UM. Yeah, I'm probably gonna keep digging
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after after we recorded today because I'm I'm very much
interested in this sort of science. But also you know,
in an advertising way, this is a bit of asymmetrical warfare,
isn't it. If the if the beer that historically gets
those Super Bowl place those Super Bowl spots, if they
could be considered like the US or something, then this
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is this is the equivalent of saying, why build an
aircraft carrier when we can build something that blows up
an aircraft carrier much less expensively. But then, Matt, this
is not occurring without pushback from experts. There is an
open letter that you can read by Robert Strick, Gold,
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Antonio Zandra, and A J. H. Har h A A
r uh. You can find this just search for advertising
in dreams is coming. Now what you'll be able to
find that I found it on like I think some
public just a public server somewhere that had this, And
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in here you are seeing pushback from a lot of
different groups and people just saying, hey, uh, maybe we
shouldn't advertise to people while they're sleeping. And they call
this thing a massive slope because Coors isn't the first
group or company to try this stuff. When Xbox X
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series was coming out, they tried to do the same thing.
They actually ran a mark and again it's associated with
marketing campaigns. It's like a marketing campaign. It's like Matroshka
dolls of marketing, where like it's marketing inside a marketing
campaign where they were boasting they could get gamers to
dream in Xbox games essentially or to dream of Xbox games.
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So they You can find this, by the way, if
you head on over to I found it on the
drum dot com, but there a couple of other places
you can find this. Uh, it's a marketing campaign made
with the mccan world Group company. They got a bunch
of gamers, attached these really interesting looking devices to their foreheads,
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had them play the new Xbox X series for like
a long long time, then had them go to sleep
with this thing attached, and they would communicate with the
gamer as they were sleeping, so like right as they
got into rem sleep. They would pull them out by saying, oh,
tell me about what you're seeing. What you're dreaming about
right now? They would describe it like Dolly right, yes, yeah, Well,
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one one of the people was dreaming about using a
power called stasis that's featured in one of the desks.
I think is Destiny too has this power called stasis,
and he was like running away from monsters and then
realized that he could use stasis and helped he and
his friends escape. Another person was imagining Master Chief djaying
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at a club. It was just, I mean, it's interesting stuff.
It becomes this like big um marketing campaign for Xbox
and how great it is and how much the gamers
love it. The people who were played this new system.
Uh yeah. There's a really interesting point that's made in
the the open letter that you described, matt Um A
just read. Part of it is our dreams cannot become
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just another playground for corporate advertisers, regardless of corps intent,
their actions at the stage for a corporate assault of
our very sense of who we are. And it's not
difficult to imagine Core's ad campaign negatively impacting abstinent alcoholics
and they go on to talk about how people that
dream about a drug or something that they once struggled
with addiction of are much more likely to have cravings.
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And then it could be a very um again slope
keeps coming up, but it is especially for things like
alcohol or or cigarettes or underage drinking. That's another thing
that is that's a huge problem with the technology or
you know, not specifically the technology, but the application of
this technology. Like if they were just saying, if they
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if they were just doing something like this is a
public campaign to get in your dreams about the importance
of using turn signals and taking shopping carts back to
the place where you're supposed to drop the shopping cart off.
Don't be a monster. That's what they ever like to
get behind, right like this is this, Yeah, this could
be problematic for some people. Folks in recovery and it
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doesn't just have to be alcohol, folks in general and
recovery from some substance abuse. Still forward the future, Matt, Yeah,
well right, because I would love it if I could
play cyberpunk in my dreams, right, God, I would love that.
That would be so much fun. All the glitches would
be gone, everything, the frame rate would be perfect and
(15:29):
I still get to do the fun question. Um but um,
look up burger King, nightmare King. That was another situation
where a company was trying to use dreaming about a
product to their benefit through marketing campaign. Um. Last thing.
One of the big scary parts of this is the
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fact that a lot of us have those little spies
that we keep in our houses, you know, not just
the ones in our our pockets with our phones children.
Oh yeah, yeah. The is too currently not accessible by
most marketing companies to say things I will but the
you know, your Google homes and your Alexis and all that.
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There is a future potential where a company could trick
you into signing up for something where certain things play
while you're sleeping. Because so many people are wearing those
watches that monitor our sleep. Even our phones sometimes can
do that. Uh if if you're if your network knows
you're sleep and you're going through rim sleep, something could
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be triggered to play on one of your devices where
you're getting subliminal or non subliminal advertising while you're sleeping.
In the future, it would require an opt in, but
it could be one of those things that like maybe
you don't even know that you have to and yeah,
it really requires an opt out or if you're if
you sign up for the service, you're going to get
a certain discount, right, I mean that's how it happen.
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That's generally the way I'm thinking about this. Anyway, you
can look all of this stuff up right now. Check
it out. That Guardian article one more time is titled
nightmare scenario alarm as advertisers seek to plug into our dreams.
Look it up, read about it and prepare your dreams
for these advertisers. There it is, and we've returned. Matt.
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I want to go back to this, this earlier conversation
we just have before the break. I strongly believe this
should be a full episode. So let's let's let's see
what you have to say about a fellow conspiracy realist
in the meantime or waiting for that episode. Uh, I
thought I would come in with some intriguing good news.
(17:45):
It's also uh, it's also a story that takes place
in one of the most enigmatic environments known to this species,
the human mind. We know about as much of the
about the human mind as we do about things like
the bottom of the ocean, which is to say, not
very much at all, Like, so still very little that
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you should be worried by that fact, because the stuff
the species has figured out has generally been used to
manipulate groups of people rather than to better uh, the
quality of life for humanity or the quality of life
or non humans on this planet. So here's some good
news about the brain. Uh, psychedelic mushrooms. You know, fellow
(18:28):
conspiracy realists, you're longtime listener, you know, we love talking
about this stuff. We love talking about the edges of
inner and outer space, and psychedelics can take you on
those journeys. They're not to be played with recreationally. This is,
of course, I'm sure legal requires me to say. This
is not stuff they don't want you to know, saying, oh,
(18:51):
go do mushrooms. They're coolish, they are very cool, but
we're not legally telling you to do them. Though. If
someone pulled a clip of what you just said out
of context, God help you. No, it's true. Uh. And
there's We're living in an interesting age too, right Ben,
where there's tons of new research. We're always finding out
(19:11):
new things and new properties of these substances that lend
themselves to some positive things, whether it be in mental
health or dare we say, even like some weird form
of evolution that's you know, we've talked about this little
bit in the past, especially the idea that there may
be some role psychedelics played in the um the rise
(19:36):
of what what became religion, right, the precedents for that
abstract sort of belief system. But the research, the research
into the hazards and the potential advantages of psychedelic use
has been stymied for generations in in the recent era
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because they were associated with hard drugs, things like crack, cocaine, heroin,
powerful opioids. But now that we're reaching a new era
of research for psychedelics, the species is learning some fascinating things.
And a lot of this research comes about due to
tragic situations, due to uh PTSD survivors from recent conflicts,
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and they're trying to say, you know what, what can
we do to alleviate these these conditions that are preventing
us from living our lives to the fullest extent. In
research shows that's where so called magic mushrooms can can
play a role. He here's why this is news. A
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recent study found that psychedelics psilocybin specifically doesn't just help
address feelings of um, you know, mental illness, or feelings
of anxiety, PTSD, depression, so on. They've found that it
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actually physically changes the structure of the mammalian brain. In
a very recent study that was published July five, researchers
found that dosing mice specifically can create what they call
(21:24):
neural adaptations. A single dose of psilocybin leads to a
ten percent increase in both the size and density of
what are called dendritic spines. And we need a whole
episode to get into the nuts and bolts of this,
But the important part is that first it's physically changing
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the brain. It's helping the brain recover in ways that
are scientifically unprecedented for this kind of application. This means,
and again this is not a recommendation, your mileage may vary.
This means that if hypothetically you in suggested these substances,
they could heal damaged brain cells in people suffering from depression.
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The second thing is that this is a lasting solution.
The study, which is again published in Neuron, finds that
this what they call structural remodeling, occurs within twenty four hours,
so it happens very quickly after you take a dose
of hallucinogen. And then when the researchers went back and
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checked on their test subjects a month later, they found
those changes remained the same. This came from researchers in California,
but it's quite possibly leading a revolution in this era
of research. You know, it turns out that maybe those
this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs ads,
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you know, with the egg and the frying pan. It
turns out that maybe they were onto something. But in
some cases it might be a good thing. This is
stimulating the growth of new branches and connections between brain cells.
That means it might not just help address things like
chronic depression, which is incredibly dangerous, but it could help
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ameliorate the symptoms of addiction. So people have suspected this
for a while, but have have you guys ever? Have
you guys heard of research like this. I was surprised.
I thought maybe it was just a popsy headline, but
it's legit. I haven't and I honestly never even really
associated the idea of things like depression or anxiety as
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being because of brain damage exactly. I don't know that's
not exactly what's being said, but I think that's in
and of itself as a fascinating takeaway to consider how
little we do know about about the brain and how
magical these things are, for lack of a better term,
I mean, that's what they're called for a reason, because
they definitely do things that nothing else can. And I'm
interested to see where this goes. Ben. I'll give you
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my unscientific remembrance of how this has been talked about
with me in the past, just in in conversation. I
believe the concept was when someone is maybe stuck in
a rut mentally when it comes to anything, uh, specifically,
if you're in UM, if you're feeling depressed and maybe
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there's a there's a track that kind of never stops
playing in your mind, like you just kind of stuck
in that one place. If this substance really can um,
as you said, enhance those neuro receptors, change them a bit,
and allow you to break some of the calcification that's
going on there, even though the calcium is not involved. Metaphorically,
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that's the way it's been spoken to me, like it'll
help you rewire your brain. But it was always in
an abstract kind of way, not in at least from
what I remember reading, never shown to actually physically change
those Yeah, let me let me add like, so this
is this is something that will be of interest I
think to to a lot of us listening along at
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home or in your job or an iceland on your
day off. Congratulations again. Uh yeah, depression can types of
depression can affect your brain physically in detrimental ways, according
to the lead researcher of this latest study, a doctor
David Olsen, he says, quote, one of the hallmarks of
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depression is that the new rights in the prefrontal cortex,
a key brain region that regulates of motion, mood, and
anxiety view, those new rights tend to shrivel up because
you know, the brain functions in many ways like a muscle.
And then you know you can see some of these
changes in cases of addiction, PTSD and so on. So
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it's astonishing to realize. We talked about this a little
bit an episode we did a long time ago Mind
over Matter, right, like the you know, you see the
studies of certain monks are holy, holy aesthetics, right, and
they they have meditated so long that the parts of
their brain that are associated with empathy and compassion or
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physically larger and denser than those of the average person.
And if that sounds like too much of a woo
woo explanation, folks, then consider also the famous black cab
drivers of the United Kingdom. They have to take this
monstrous test called the Knowledge and it teaches them how
to basically they memorize London in various what if scenarios
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and they can't they can't use the GPS or anything.
And after those folks have been driving for a number
of years, the parts of their brain and believe, the
hippocampus and a couple of other spots, the part associated
with memory and spatial reasoning, is also physically larger. Your
thoughts shape the organ that well, your brain calls itself.
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I guess it's the best way to put it. And
so with this in mind, you know, we have to wonder,
are we in the modern world, like how much does
the stigma of this sort of experimentation, how much good
does it actually do? Right as we record, the majority
of psychedelic substances that people would commonly associate with the
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phrase psychedelic, they're illegal in the US. If you are
someone suffering from depression or PTSD, or maybe say you're
a veteran or you've survived some horrific experience or trauma,
and then you get busted by the police and you've
been doing LSD or magic mushrooms, you're in possession of
something like that, then odds are the authorities are not
(27:33):
going to say, hey, you know, I read a pretty
good article and sell earlier that said this might be
a great way to help you get you back on
the track to mental wellness. Apologies, sir, please enjoy your rave,
keep keep increasing the density of those dendrins. They won't
because it's a you know, like because in the eyes
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of the law, you are committing a crime. And you know,
of course the legislation always lags behind the technology. But
I know, guys, we've got a lot of people in
the audience today who have probably had a similar experience,
and it's one that you know, maybe felt like it
was relegated to the realm of anecdote forever, but now
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science is backing you up. If you have had an
experience like this, I think that's I think that's profound. Um.
I also don't think it's the same thing as saying, hey, everybody,
you're ever feeling a little bit down, go trip. That's
terrible advice seen in setting play a huge role in
this and the study I found is well worth the
(28:43):
read if you have the time. It is a little
bit dry because it's, you know, it is an academic journal,
but the revelations are fascinating and worthwhile. Notes of course
important caveat. This was done on mice, so there hasn't
been an experiment of this sort replicated on human beings
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or other animals. But it would be interesting, especially you know,
I'm just spitball in here, especially if we give it
to some octopuses, maybe some Corvid's see what happens. Like
the octopus certainly enjoyed doing M D M A. There
was there was an observation on that you heard about that, right,
I did not know? Did you hear about that one? No? No,
(29:27):
I haven't yet. God, Well, we'll keep it closer because
we're gonna we're gonna wrap. But I do want everybody
to check this out. This is a legit story to
you can find it and outlets like MPR and so on.
There was a study that gave octopuses ecstasy and ecstasy
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and human beings is known for encouraging like cuddly warm
feelings and people feel extra lovey, dovey, etcetera, etcetera, everything
is going to be okay. Uh. They found that when
you give this to an octopus, a creature that's almost
completely antisocial for most of its life except when it's mating. Uh,
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what they found is that they do a one eighty.
They do an emotional and social emotional social one eighty.
They want to hang out with other octopuses. They even
like hug them, you know, just like they're both in
their hallucinogenic cups at a party. And this is profound
because up until this discovery, scientists who had to who
(30:34):
studied octopuses usually had to put them in separate, separate housing, right,
separate aquariums or whatever, so that they wouldn't kill or
eat each other. So they went from like a mad
Max Highlander, there can only be one cannibalism situation to
being like, oh my god, the colors right, and they
(30:54):
can communicate through chromatophores. So what happened when they play
the octopus is MGMT like, how did they react to that? Uh?
That that is an excellent question matter. I believe the
research is still out though it does appear. Don't quote
me on this, I'll dig into it, but there is
some I want to say. There was compelling research about
(31:18):
octopuses musical preference. I can't remember what that is. I
can't remember what that is, so I made from the
electric feel that's probably what it is. It probably is,
but I wanted to give like this is some good
news forward with the future. UH, scientists who are working
around the clock. We often doing thankless jobs, but they're
doing important work. Would love to hear your experiences with
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psychedelic mushrooms. Does this news in particular surprise you? Were
you expecting experts to say that this stuff is literally
healing your brain on a physical level. Let us know
one three three std w y t K. You can
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but we've briefly talked about, you know, on Strange News. UH.
(32:22):
The situation with John mccafy um, the impresario of anti
viral software that went on to become something of a
globe trotting you know, sex freak among gun totor Um,
just all around odd guy UM, very problematic, some very
troubling allegations about this gentleman in his life, One of
(32:44):
which that happened right before he allegedly committed suicide, was
that he was doing something called pump and dump UM
where he would take to social media and Twitter UM
and I think that was his platform of choice. And
UM attempts to inflate the value of certain crypto coins
that are referred to as alt coins, meaning that they're
(33:04):
not the mainstream big dogs of the crypto sphere, being
things like ether, Bitcoin, binance coin, some more kind of
tried and true coins that that have backing behind them,
not only in terms of the volume, but also in
terms of like the code behind them, the use of
them for purposes beyond just kind of having a clever
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name and uh and a logo associated it with it,
and so now things all coins would be things like
dose coin that obviously did get some life when when
folks like Elon Musk kind of made it their pet Project.
That's the issue with crypto is that it is very
volatile and it can be very subject to the whims
of influencers. UM. So today we're talking about a new
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scandal involving some e sports influencers a group that I've
never heard of, but I'm sure that you know either
listeners out there and possibly your kids will have heard
of an Los Angeles based e sports group or organization
called Phase Clan. UM. Essentially, it's like a group of
I think it's almost exclusively men. I only know a
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handful of them, uh, the members who are involved in
today's story, but they you know, play things like Fortnite competitively,
and they all each individually are big YouTubers with you know,
millions of followers on Twitter and of course YouTube. Um.
Several members of FAY they all have names to like
sort of like how Wu Tang Clan members all have
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like kind of names that are like sort of related.
Each of the members of the Phase Clan Uh, their
names begin with the word Phase and it's spelled f
A z um. So several members of Phase Clan. We've
got Phase k Uh, Phase Jarvis, Phase Nicon, and Phase
Tico t e q O are all allegedly involved in
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a very egregious pumping up scam involving an all coin
with the name kids k I d S. And why
do you think that is? Well, supposedly, this coin, called
long Form Save the Kids UH is a charity coin
token rather, and this is not like the kind of
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coin that you buy on like a regular crypto exchange.
This is what is called a DEFY project, which stands
for decentralized finance. So it's essentially these projects that DEFY
as I mean, for forgive me if I'm oversimplifying for
any crypto people out there, but DEFY is essentially a
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way of creating investment opportunities and projects that you know,
have some of the same types of mechanisms as traditional
banking or you know, financial exchanges do, but it's completely
decentralized and peer to peer UM for the you to
my understanding, that's that's what it means. UM. There are
tons of them, and honestly, I've invested in a few
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very small ones and actually had an experience where I
realized how scary and volatile these can be. But there
you have to be part of a something called UM.
It's a it's a very specific type of chain, uh
that uses um what's called web three point oh I believe.
Like so essentially it's a browser extension that allows you
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to link a crypto wallet to these exchanges UM and
then you're able to you know, unlock various wallets and
various they're called pools where you take cryptocurrency. For example,
this one took place on what's called the binance smart chain,
which uses binance coin, which is one of those you know,
kind of more tried and true ones. You can either
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invest the coin, convert your binance coin to whatever token
is in question, like this one is called kids. There's
other ones any name you can imagine, like gunk probably
exists as as a defied token you can stake in
just like converted to that and then stake it in
these pools, or you can basically do what's called pairing,
or you pair your regular crypto to that token, and
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then they're sort of linked together. So when one fails,
if like the token fails, you haven't lost everything. UM.
It's very interesting and and I'm very complicated, but also
uh rife for fraud because when you go to any
of these defied pages, there's a message that comes up
that says this couldn't be fake essentially, and this could
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be absolute BS proceed with caution, So you really have
to know what you're putting your money into and who's
behind it, and what the code is and what the
use of it is, and even then you could lose everything.
So kids, this company or this organization which no one
still knows who exactly came up with this coin, but
this organization called UH save the Kids, which is about
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the most cliche sounding you know, UM charity you could
possibly imagine. Everybody wants to save the kids. Everyone wants
the kids to be okay UM this token UH. There's
an advertising campaign behind it with all of these uh
these Phase clan people, you know, talking about how they
think it's a very valid um investments and it's something
that they all personally are going to hold onto our
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hotel as the crypto people say. Um. But it turns
out that most of them got their advanced UM tokens,
which means they got it before the actual you know
it opened up too regular UM people that are investing
in it and dumped it. One in particular, one member
Phase K dumped almost a hundred percent of his like
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million plus tokens twenty four hours after UM it was
available to to the public. And the research behind the
story UM that I looked into, or that I found
that I thought was the most fantastic and very very
very good internet sleuth thing was done by a YouTuber
that goes by the moniker coffee Zilla. I cannot recommend
highly enough to check out his report on this on
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his YouTube channel, but he the thing that's interesting about
does you can trace, you know, wallets. It's all public information,
so he was able to literally track down the wallets
that all of these YouTubers used to buy and flip
these alt coins, and he was able to see a
pattern in particular with with Phase K that he um
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promoted the hell out of this coin UH using hashtags,
using all the things UM, and then immediately when it
went live dumped it. All but four of these coins.
He dumped them. It's almost like keeping a memento of
your crime in a weird play UM. So that's essentially
where it stands. The most interesting part, I think in
the biggest smoking gun that coffee Zilla uncovered, because you
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can also look at the providence or the chain of
custody on the the token itself that there's developers that
that make these things, that build these things their pieces
of code, and there are like beta versions and like
one point oh and two point over versions. So he
was able using the b SC scan, which is like
the the record for finance smart chain UM transactions, he
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was able to trace the versions of this and as
sin initially, the people behind Save the Kids said, okay,
this is a total safe bed because there's it's it's
rug pull proof. Rug pulling is when someone who holds
an exorbitant amount of a particular token they're referred to
as whales, dumps all of their coins um, usually very
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uh strategically to manipulate the price, you know, to their
own benefit. Or a handful of these whales collued in
order to do that um. And it's the kind of
thing that you know, as imperfect as it is the
SCC and you know, the regulators of the Stock Exchange
there are measures in place to keep that from happening. Um.
But the folks behind Save the Kid's Token initially said,
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there this is an unrugged pullable. We have anti whale
mechanisms of place, which what which prevent anyone from selling
uh point five percent and one transaction of their holdings
right of this coin. UM. But it turns out that
the last minute, the developer changed that. Uh yeah, for
twenty four hours, UM changed that to one minute, essentially
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implying that they knew it was a scam in the
first place. UM. And again, coffee Zilla reached out to
a lot of the members of this group and to
the actual guy that developed the token and got some
really fascinating, um, just really really excellent investigative journalism from
from this YouTuber. UM. And he got the guy to
admit that he was told to do that, which implies
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that these influencers were kind of in on it from
the start. UM can't say that, you know, unequivocally, but
that's certainly what it feels like. UM yeah, and it's me.
It's essentially really highlighting how gross, uh, this kind of
influencer culture can be. UM, how rife for manipulation and
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taking advantage of followers of of this of these you know,
influencers there can be and um, how maybe there is
need for a little more regulation. Again, I'm I'm fascinated
by the whole world of crypto and the fact that
it is kind of open ended, but this seems to
be a bridge too far, especially when charity is involved
and you're dangling this like you know, helping helping out
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under privileged kids. Also the mission of the organization super vague,
so vague, like what okay, which organizations is this going to?
Which kids are you saving? It was very unclear. So well,
it's it's interesting too because um, I think K Phase K,
who is the one on the most extreme end of
the spectrum. The WAH got kicked out of phase plan. Uh,
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he really took pains to try to distance himself from
being associated with a pumpet dump scheme, like you know,
like you said at the top that McAfee had been
accused of. But this, this is tough for him to
walk back because, uh, you know, one of his defenses
is I love this space, my wallets, public, etcetera, etcetera.
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But you can't that doesn't address the timeline, right, Like
the it goes public, the initial public offering happens, and
then within moments, uh, they've gotten rid of all but
four of these coins after after arguably purposefully inflating their value. Right,
So the question then becomes a little bit tougher to
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prove is it intention you know what I mean. Are
we to believe that someone genuinely said, Hey, I'm just
learning about a really new space. I think it's complicated,
but I messed up and I didn't mean to screw
anyone over. Is it playing dumb? That's the question. Well
with him, what coffee Zilla uncovered, you know through again
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tracing the Again, these transactions are all public, and he
figured out who's while it was who's Um the other
members of Phase Clan, their behavior was much less egregious
and and showed much less nefarious intent because in general, um,
this hapens a lot where like an alt coin will
pay like an influencer, say to pump up there to
to promote this project. Um. So if you don't really
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believe in it and you're just doing it to collect
the free tokens, make no mistake, they're getting these for
free initially as their payment. That's the only way they're
going to cash in as if they like, you know,
sell them right. Um And and these projects can can
turn on a dime, guys, like it's crazy. Again. I've
only done a couple, but I had one where you know,
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it was trading it like a couple of bucks and
the next day because I was very new. But this
next day I looked at it and it was less
than a cent, you know, and thankfully I was not
in it much at all. But these these projects can
really go south, especially if there isn't that anti whale
protection and the fact that they advertised him as unrugged, pullable,
total anti whale you know, protections in place and then
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literally changed it right before going public to one minute
time limit for selling not even a percentage apparently, you know,
based on Phase K's behavior, as much of it as
he wanted. Um. But some of the other members who
were not kicked out of Phase Clan, who were just
uh suspended, three of them, you can look at their history,
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their transaction history, and they're much more likely to have
been holding some of these projects. So it seems that
in the past they were more in it because they
did believe in it, to your point, Ben, but it
seems like Phase ks patterns were much more. Overall, he's
in it for himself and he's in it to pump
and dump and a lot of these It needs to
be said that a lot of the members of Phase
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Clan and in in a ton of the followers are
themselves quite young, you know what I mean. That's why
I said, your kids, you know, I mean, this is
a great this is something that I'm not in on really,
And I asked my kid if she'd heard of him,
so she hadn't either, and she's pretty into the twitch stuff.
But you're absolutely right then. And um, there's a great
article uh that these are a lot of these Uh.
These dudes, by the way, are British. Um. Phase K
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absolutely is. And there's a really great article from e
sports news dot co dot uk that has a quote
from SEC chairman Gary Gensler UM, who obviously is a
proponent of regulating the crypto markets, and he said, of
this type of situation, uh quote, I would like to see, No,
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we need tighter restrictions, penalties and disclaimers put in place
to better protect young, impressionable people out there that might
take their favorite influencers words as gospel and and there's
a larger there's a larger context here, I would argue,
which is that phase plan. You know, some people say
they reached their height of relevance during the call of
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duty glory days And what I wish was more reported
in some of these stories, I realize it's an ongoing event,
and it's the oral borrows of social media chatter. Right,
it consumes its tail eventually. But the bigger point here,
at least in my opinion and may be wrong, is
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that this is an example of something that many, many
other groups or influencers could easily do right. And some
people get a little bit of a blindness when they
see Um. I don't know why. I always thought the
badge thing was silly, but some people get a little
bit of blindness when they see someone they follow that
maybe has like a blue checkmark or what are the
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authority uh the authentication things, and that person says, hey,
you're a fan of mine. I really like this. I
endorse that you know what I mean that people like
this doesn't have to be restricted to the world of
gaming plans. This could happen with someone who is a
makeup mayven. This could happen with someone who I don't
know what do what do people review? There's someone who
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like just does chicken sandwiches and the chicken sandwich guys
like chicken coin right now? Do we have any cryptocurrencies
upcoming in the next couple of quarters, guys? Uh no, No,
we're not. To do that. Yeah, my favorite. You're right. Then,
By the way, anyone who has sufficient enough reach could
do this right. And that's why it's been looked at
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so toughly at people like Elon Musk and you know
Mr McAfee, uh, because they've got they've got that reach,
interest and money and they just go, hey, check it
out and then they make a ton of money when
they us. Did you know Phase has an Atlanta clan
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or a subclan, Yes, and they are badasses at Call
of duty. To tell me more about this this situation, like,
how many people are we talking? When I hear Phase
Clan again, I think of like a rap group and
there's like ten guys total. But this is a very
large organization subgroups kind of because okay, so the I
forgive me Phase Clan fellow people who out there, if
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you're listening. But my understanding is that the Atlanta group
is only like three to five maybe four people, and
they specialize in Call of Duty, so they they live
and die call of duty all day long. They win
tournaments playing Call of Duty. There's oh gosh, I remember
seeing something about them winning. They won something pretty recently.
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I remember hearing about this but then there are others
that just play, um lord, I'm blanking all the other
things like FIFA. Some people the only play pub g
yeah or Fortnite or those kind of things. But then
you'll have smaller crews who just do that. Some people
are just content creators who are members of Phase plan
so influencers, not that the pro gamers aren't probably influencers
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in their own right. Some people are are more the
video creators and that's what they specialize in. But hey,
if you're out there Atlanta, Phase, hit us up. I'd
love to chat with somebody about what that's like to
live your life right now being a pro gamer. I'm
just gonna say that if you if you know Sonya,
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the Black Widow, Thomas or you know will be Ashi,
or if you listen to the show and you're one
of those people, or if you've just been Nates hot
Dog contests, Dude, Atlanta, Atlanta Phase eats Nubs like like
Black Widow eats Nathan's minutes. The stats I was getting
this derailed. No, No, we're we're we're there, guys. I
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mean they're just just to to sew it up Phase clan,
you know, proper issue to statement. Um, we have made
the decision to remove K from Phase Clan and have
suspended Jarvis Nican an Tico until further notice. Phase Clan
has absolutely no involvement with our members activity in the
cryptocurrency space, and we strongly condemn their recent behavior. The
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trust and respect of our fans has been and will
always be our number one priority. So, uh, there you go.
And just again just so you understand, fully, I think
we made this said this along the way, but I
mean this, this project, this token, it absolutely crumbled night.
Um it started off and and then this is like
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very similar to to like does right, these are fractions
of are a couple of cents right per share? That's
why that's what we're talking about, dealing in volumes of millions.
And I think at the end of the day, Uh,
Phase K made around thirty grand American off of this deal.
Uh probably not worth all of the piece having to
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eat now, UM, I would argue. And uh so it
started off at an all time high point zero zero
forty four on June tenth, and then after that sell off,
it absolutely tanked the token and went down to point
zero zero eleven. And at the time of this piece
in crypto Slate dot Com by Liam Frost. It was
worth point zero zero thirteen, so essentially worthless. And it's
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an ongoing story, so there are going to be more
updates to follow, not just on the saga of Phase Plan,
but on the ethics of crypto in general. Were also
going to learn more about ads in our dreams and
who knows. At some point, doctor near you may prescribe
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My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called
me Ben, and we are joined as always with our
super producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly,
you are you. You are here, and that makes this
the stuff they don't want you to know. It is
the top of the week, which means it is time
for some strange news. Before we begin today, I'd like
(00:49):
to extend a hearty congratulations to the people of Iceland
who have officially concluded some some great results from their
recent experimentation. And with the four day work week, it's
something a lot of people talk about. Uh, it's something
that I think a lot of people who have a
five day work week are big fans of personally. So
(01:10):
if you were in Iceland, let us know, tell us
how it's going. Kudos to you. You might be listening
to this on your extra day off. Way to make
socialism work right scenario? Is there listening to it while
they're at work? For one of those days, there we go.
And it's it's funny because for people outside of the US,
(01:33):
one of the only times that the average um U
S employee is going to get a an abbreviated week
is going to be due to a holiday. Like recently,
the US observed July four, which is the celebration of
the country's independence from the British, and that meant that
(01:54):
we all got a Monday off, well off, the four
of us, right right right, Yeah, it's also uh, it's
fourth of July a k A amateur hour. This is
what I like to refer to it as people just
don't know how to act ben uh. And specifically in
San Diego, apparently there we're all commit in California in general,
(02:17):
you know how flammable things are. They're just all kinds
of horror stories about people being very irresponsible with fireworks.
And apparently in the San Diego fireworks display, some error
lad to all of them going off at once. What
was supposed to be like a thirty to forty minute display.
They all just blasted at once, which is probably pretty cool,
but then also it's kind of like, okay, that was
(02:38):
that was a little quick, but also kind of scary
if you were nearby. Imagine, Yeah, and it gives authoritarians
yet another chance to say, see what happens when you
have a little bit of freedom. So this is I mean,
it's like, it's part of the reason why I don't
particularly care for the phrase slippery slope. When you're using
it in a figurative sense. Every slope is slipper. It's
(03:00):
like it's like saying atm machin ervin number to imply otherwise.
But at this point we cannot wait to share with
you some of these strange stories we encountered when last
we spoke. Fellow conspiracy realist, We're diving into the world
of psychedelics, We're diving into the world of fraud, uh,
(03:21):
and we are diving into the troubling future of your dreams. Matt,
can you tell by my intonation I'm kind of okay, yeah,
oh yeah, no totally. And I'm just thinking about last
week and just as an up day for everyone, birds
still are not real, uh, at least according to that group. Okay,
(03:41):
so thank you for that. Man. Of course, we've got
quite a few messages about that. But yes, Ben, we
are heading into the world of dreams, and not just
the cool ones, the lucid ones where you do whatever
you want, uh, the dreams where advertisements play on a
loop NonStop for the rest of your dreams. This instantly
(04:03):
makes me think of that Black Mirror episode twenty million merits.
I think that's what it's called, where you have to
like pay tokens essentially to shut off the advertisements. Not
that happened in your dreams, that just happened in your
waking life, but you you can't look away, and if
you close your eyes at like, you know, hanks at
you and forces you to look and finish the ad
unless you pay to have it suspended. I I'm sorry
(04:25):
not to interrupted that them getting serious Black Mirror vibes here.
I'm I'm excited about this when too meant because I
think we were both reading about it fairly in depth
a clock Sometimes it feels like we share the same
strange radar because this is something this kind of science
before it's like we're seeing the early stages of commercializing it.
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But this kind of science, sure we'll talk about has
been a goal of a lot of research institutions, government
and private for some time. It's just kind of like
the story with cloud seating. Uh it's not yet as
sophisticated or as targeted as people would like it to be,
(05:07):
but that that may change pretty soon. Uh yes, and
we are not in black mirror territory as of this moment.
But what we're going to discuss is a slope which
is inherently slippery just by its very nature. Okay, so um,
We're gonna begin with a story here out of The
(05:29):
Guardian titled nightmare scenario scenario If you're nasty, Jesus, keep
it alarm as advertisers seek to plug into our dreams,
and here are just the first few paragraphs. When brewing
giant Cores launched a new advertising campaign earlier this year,
(05:50):
the format came as a surprise to many. The company
was planning to infiltrate people's dreams to get them to
buy and presumably drink, Cores beer. By the way, pulling
myself out of the article here, I am a fan,
of course it really it really does go down easy
when it comes to drinkable beers. Cores is one of
(06:14):
those beers that, you know, it gets a hard time
by some folks who might consider themselves cicerones, which is
the beer equivalent of a small ya for why uh yeah,
but it's uh, it's I feel like, if you're paying
and you're being responsible, then drink which you want that
(06:35):
this kind of, this kind of approach seems unusual for
a beer that many people do not consider top tier,
you know, they consider it like a barbecue kicking, kicking
back in the backyard kind of beer. Yes, if you
travel to New Jersey and hang out with my in laws,
Cores is the beer of choice. And I wonder how
much of that has to do with their advertising campaigns
(06:57):
when I just instinctive when I think about Cores, I
think about that can with the Mountains, the Rocky Mountains
cast the Rockies. Isn't that their official all? I all
I know is what I what. The images that are
conjured up when I think about Cores are very very refreshing,
like just from there already regular old advertising campaigns. Right,
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But if we jump to what they're trying to do now,
I'm gonna go back to that article. It says Cores
encouraged people to watch a short online video before going
to sleep and then play an eight hour sound escape
through the night, so while they're sleeping, and if successful.
This quote targeted dream incubation would trigger refreshing dreams of Cours,
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according to the company. And yeah, well first these first
this this is something that can be real science. Yes,
very diplomatic, it can certainly be real science. It's definitely
a weird science. Is this. This is like like implanting
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subliminal messages in your mind that carry over into your
dreams and sort of influence Dove. But in this case,
it's not subliminal per se, because in that in that scenario,
you're generally being presented with something subliminally that you have
no idea. Yeah, this is this is something you choose
(08:31):
to do so um in in this campaign, Cores could
not make you do this. You had to voluntarily watch
a video then listen to this eight hour soundscape as
they call it. Um it's it's really interesting stuff. And
they did this in January of this year alongside the
(08:52):
Super Bowl rather than you know, paying for this giant commercial,
which they couldn't do because this other beer company kind
of has the law on Super Bowl beer commercially trying
Natty ice yea with the horses with the horses right
pass blue ribbon? Yes, uh, and hey that's an award
winning beer guys. Um, sorry, sorry for everybody who doesn't
(09:16):
drink beer or is too young to, so they're all
enjoyed at beer is such a silly concept to be
But but like the you know, the names, the histories,
that's a whole another show itself. But what you're what
you're talking about is uh kind of leveraging those those
pre existing associations, right, like the sensation of hot or cold,
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right the taste, which you know some people enjoy, some
people hate, probably the smell right there there. There are
a lot of ways this could go. So, Matt, do
we have access to this soundscape for clip purposes or
is this like a you only got it if you
signed up for the pilot kind of program. I I've
(10:00):
been able to find the raw files. I'm sure they
exist somewhere online. I wasn't able to find them. I could.
You can't find the original link that was shared when
this campaign was happening in January, but you can. It'll
just take you to the cores what is it, the
Molson Coreps website and yeah, the Molson Corps website, like
(10:23):
will tell you about it. And then you've got some
videos of like how they did how they did this
whole thing and parts of the video, but I haven't
been able to find that soundscape. UM, let me know
if you guys happened upon it somewhere I was looking
for to there's UM. Yeah, I'm probably gonna keep digging
(10:45):
after after we recorded today because I'm I'm very much
interested in this sort of science. But also you know,
in an advertising way, this is a bit of asymmetrical warfare,
isn't it. If the if the beer that historically gets
those Super Bowl place those Super Bowl spots, if they
could be considered like the US or something, then this
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is this is the equivalent of saying, why build an
aircraft carrier when we can build something that blows up
an aircraft carrier much less expensively. But then, Matt, this
is not occurring without pushback from experts. There is an
open letter that you can read by Robert Strick, Gold,
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Antonio Zandra, and A J. H. Har h A A
r uh. You can find this just search for advertising
in dreams is coming. Now what you'll be able to
find that I found it on like I think some
public just a public server somewhere that had this, And
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in here you are seeing pushback from a lot of
different groups and people just saying, hey, uh, maybe we
shouldn't advertise to people while they're sleeping. And they call
this thing a massive slope because Coors isn't the first
group or company to try this stuff. When Xbox X
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series was coming out, they tried to do the same thing.
They actually ran a mark and again it's associated with
marketing campaigns. It's like a marketing campaign. It's like Matroshka
dolls of marketing, where like it's marketing inside a marketing
campaign where they were boasting they could get gamers to
dream in Xbox games essentially or to dream of Xbox games.
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So they You can find this, by the way, if
you head on over to I found it on the
drum dot com, but there a couple of other places
you can find this. Uh, it's a marketing campaign made
with the mccan world Group company. They got a bunch
of gamers, attached these really interesting looking devices to their foreheads,
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had them play the new Xbox X series for like
a long long time, then had them go to sleep
with this thing attached, and they would communicate with the
gamer as they were sleeping, so like right as they
got into rem sleep. They would pull them out by saying, oh,
tell me about what you're seeing. What you're dreaming about
right now? They would describe it like Dolly right, yes, yeah, Well,
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one one of the people was dreaming about using a
power called stasis that's featured in one of the desks.
I think is Destiny too has this power called stasis,
and he was like running away from monsters and then
realized that he could use stasis and helped he and
his friends escape. Another person was imagining Master Chief djaying
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at a club. It was just, I mean, it's interesting stuff.
It becomes this like big um marketing campaign for Xbox
and how great it is and how much the gamers
love it. The people who were played this new system.
Uh yeah. There's a really interesting point that's made in
the the open letter that you described, matt Um A
just read. Part of it is our dreams cannot become
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just another playground for corporate advertisers, regardless of corps intent,
their actions at the stage for a corporate assault of
our very sense of who we are. And it's not
difficult to imagine Core's ad campaign negatively impacting abstinent alcoholics
and they go on to talk about how people that
dream about a drug or something that they once struggled
with addiction of are much more likely to have cravings.
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And then it could be a very um again slope
keeps coming up, but it is especially for things like
alcohol or or cigarettes or underage drinking. That's another thing
that is that's a huge problem with the technology or
you know, not specifically the technology, but the application of
this technology. Like if they were just saying, if they
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if they were just doing something like this is a
public campaign to get in your dreams about the importance
of using turn signals and taking shopping carts back to
the place where you're supposed to drop the shopping cart off.
Don't be a monster. That's what they ever like to
get behind, right like this is this, Yeah, this could
be problematic for some people. Folks in recovery and it
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doesn't just have to be alcohol, folks in general and
recovery from some substance abuse. Still forward the future, Matt, Yeah,
well right, because I would love it if I could
play cyberpunk in my dreams, right, God, I would love that.
That would be so much fun. All the glitches would
be gone, everything, the frame rate would be perfect and
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I still get to do the fun question. Um but um,
look up burger King, nightmare King. That was another situation
where a company was trying to use dreaming about a
product to their benefit through marketing campaign. Um. Last thing.
One of the big scary parts of this is the
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fact that a lot of us have those little spies
that we keep in our houses, you know, not just
the ones in our our pockets with our phones children.
Oh yeah, yeah. The is too currently not accessible by
most marketing companies to say things I will but the
you know, your Google homes and your Alexis and all that.
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There is a future potential where a company could trick
you into signing up for something where certain things play
while you're sleeping. Because so many people are wearing those
watches that monitor our sleep. Even our phones sometimes can
do that. Uh if if you're if your network knows
you're sleep and you're going through rim sleep, something could
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be triggered to play on one of your devices where
you're getting subliminal or non subliminal advertising while you're sleeping.
In the future, it would require an opt in, but
it could be one of those things that like maybe
you don't even know that you have to and yeah,
it really requires an opt out or if you're if
you sign up for the service, you're going to get
a certain discount, right, I mean that's how it happen.
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That's generally the way I'm thinking about this. Anyway, you
can look all of this stuff up right now. Check
it out. That Guardian article one more time is titled
nightmare scenario alarm as advertisers seek to plug into our dreams.
Look it up, read about it and prepare your dreams
for these advertisers. There it is, and we've returned. Matt.
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I want to go back to this, this earlier conversation
we just have before the break. I strongly believe this
should be a full episode. So let's let's let's see
what you have to say about a fellow conspiracy realist
in the meantime or waiting for that episode. Uh, I
thought I would come in with some intriguing good news.
(17:45):
It's also uh, it's also a story that takes place
in one of the most enigmatic environments known to this species,
the human mind. We know about as much of the
about the human mind as we do about things like
the bottom of the ocean, which is to say, not
very much at all, Like, so still very little that
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you should be worried by that fact, because the stuff
the species has figured out has generally been used to
manipulate groups of people rather than to better uh, the
quality of life for humanity or the quality of life
or non humans on this planet. So here's some good
news about the brain. Uh, psychedelic mushrooms. You know, fellow
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conspiracy realists, you're longtime listener, you know, we love talking
about this stuff. We love talking about the edges of
inner and outer space, and psychedelics can take you on
those journeys. They're not to be played with recreationally. This is,
of course, I'm sure legal requires me to say. This
is not stuff they don't want you to know, saying, oh,
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go do mushrooms. They're coolish, they are very cool, but
we're not legally telling you to do them. Though. If
someone pulled a clip of what you just said out
of context, God help you. No, it's true. Uh. And
there's We're living in an interesting age too, right Ben,
where there's tons of new research. We're always finding out
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new things and new properties of these substances that lend
themselves to some positive things, whether it be in mental
health or dare we say, even like some weird form
of evolution that's you know, we've talked about this little
bit in the past, especially the idea that there may
be some role psychedelics played in the um the rise
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of what what became religion, right, the precedents for that
abstract sort of belief system. But the research, the research
into the hazards and the potential advantages of psychedelic use
has been stymied for generations in in the recent era
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because they were associated with hard drugs, things like crack, cocaine, heroin,
powerful opioids. But now that we're reaching a new era
of research for psychedelics, the species is learning some fascinating things.
And a lot of this research comes about due to
tragic situations, due to uh PTSD survivors from recent conflicts,
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and they're trying to say, you know what, what can
we do to alleviate these these conditions that are preventing
us from living our lives to the fullest extent. In
research shows that's where so called magic mushrooms can can
play a role. He here's why this is news. A
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recent study found that psychedelics psilocybin specifically doesn't just help
address feelings of um, you know, mental illness, or feelings
of anxiety, PTSD, depression, so on. They've found that it
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actually physically changes the structure of the mammalian brain. In
a very recent study that was published July five, researchers
found that dosing mice specifically can create what they call
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neural adaptations. A single dose of psilocybin leads to a
ten percent increase in both the size and density of
what are called dendritic spines. And we need a whole
episode to get into the nuts and bolts of this,
But the important part is that first it's physically changing
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the brain. It's helping the brain recover in ways that
are scientifically unprecedented for this kind of application. This means,
and again this is not a recommendation, your mileage may vary.
This means that if hypothetically you in suggested these substances,
they could heal damaged brain cells in people suffering from depression.
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The second thing is that this is a lasting solution.
The study, which is again published in Neuron, finds that
this what they call structural remodeling, occurs within twenty four hours,
so it happens very quickly after you take a dose
of hallucinogen. And then when the researchers went back and
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checked on their test subjects a month later, they found
those changes remained the same. This came from researchers in California,
but it's quite possibly leading a revolution in this era
of research. You know, it turns out that maybe those
this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs ads,
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you know, with the egg and the frying pan. It
turns out that maybe they were onto something. But in
some cases it might be a good thing. This is
stimulating the growth of new branches and connections between brain cells.
That means it might not just help address things like
chronic depression, which is incredibly dangerous, but it could help
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ameliorate the symptoms of addiction. So people have suspected this
for a while, but have have you guys ever? Have
you guys heard of research like this. I was surprised.
I thought maybe it was just a popsy headline, but
it's legit. I haven't and I honestly never even really
associated the idea of things like depression or anxiety as
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being because of brain damage exactly. I don't know that's
not exactly what's being said, but I think that's in
and of itself as a fascinating takeaway to consider how
little we do know about about the brain and how
magical these things are, for lack of a better term,
I mean, that's what they're called for a reason, because
they definitely do things that nothing else can. And I'm
interested to see where this goes. Ben. I'll give you
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my unscientific remembrance of how this has been talked about
with me in the past, just in in conversation. I
believe the concept was when someone is maybe stuck in
a rut mentally when it comes to anything, uh, specifically,
if you're in UM, if you're feeling depressed and maybe
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there's a there's a track that kind of never stops
playing in your mind, like you just kind of stuck
in that one place. If this substance really can um,
as you said, enhance those neuro receptors, change them a bit,
and allow you to break some of the calcification that's
going on there, even though the calcium is not involved. Metaphorically,
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that's the way it's been spoken to me, like it'll
help you rewire your brain. But it was always in
an abstract kind of way, not in at least from
what I remember reading, never shown to actually physically change
those Yeah, let me let me add like, so this
is this is something that will be of interest I
think to to a lot of us listening along at
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home or in your job or an iceland on your
day off. Congratulations again. Uh yeah, depression can types of
depression can affect your brain physically in detrimental ways, according
to the lead researcher of this latest study, a doctor
David Olsen, he says, quote, one of the hallmarks of
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depression is that the new rights in the prefrontal cortex,
a key brain region that regulates of motion, mood, and
anxiety view, those new rights tend to shrivel up because
you know, the brain functions in many ways like a muscle.
And then you know you can see some of these
changes in cases of addiction, PTSD and so on. So
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it's astonishing to realize. We talked about this a little
bit an episode we did a long time ago Mind
over Matter, right, like the you know, you see the
studies of certain monks are holy, holy aesthetics, right, and
they they have meditated so long that the parts of
their brain that are associated with empathy and compassion or
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physically larger and denser than those of the average person.
And if that sounds like too much of a woo
woo explanation, folks, then consider also the famous black cab
drivers of the United Kingdom. They have to take this
monstrous test called the Knowledge and it teaches them how
to basically they memorize London in various what if scenarios
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and they can't they can't use the GPS or anything.
And after those folks have been driving for a number
of years, the parts of their brain and believe, the
hippocampus and a couple of other spots, the part associated
with memory and spatial reasoning, is also physically larger. Your
thoughts shape the organ that well, your brain calls itself.
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I guess it's the best way to put it. And
so with this in mind, you know, we have to wonder,
are we in the modern world, like how much does
the stigma of this sort of experimentation, how much good
does it actually do? Right as we record, the majority
of psychedelic substances that people would commonly associate with the
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phrase psychedelic, they're illegal in the US. If you are
someone suffering from depression or PTSD, or maybe say you're
a veteran or you've survived some horrific experience or trauma,
and then you get busted by the police and you've
been doing LSD or magic mushrooms, you're in possession of
something like that, then odds are the authorities are not
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going to say, hey, you know, I read a pretty
good article and sell earlier that said this might be
a great way to help you get you back on
the track to mental wellness. Apologies, sir, please enjoy your rave,
keep keep increasing the density of those dendrins. They won't
because it's a you know, like because in the eyes
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of the law, you are committing a crime. And you know,
of course the legislation always lags behind the technology. But
I know, guys, we've got a lot of people in
the audience today who have probably had a similar experience,
and it's one that you know, maybe felt like it
was relegated to the realm of anecdote forever, but now
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science is backing you up. If you have had an
experience like this, I think that's I think that's profound. Um.
I also don't think it's the same thing as saying, hey, everybody,
you're ever feeling a little bit down, go trip. That's
terrible advice seen in setting play a huge role in
this and the study I found is well worth the
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read if you have the time. It is a little
bit dry because it's, you know, it is an academic journal,
but the revelations are fascinating and worthwhile. Notes of course
important caveat. This was done on mice, so there hasn't
been an experiment of this sort replicated on human beings
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or other animals. But it would be interesting, especially you know,
I'm just spitball in here, especially if we give it
to some octopuses, maybe some Corvid's see what happens. Like
the octopus certainly enjoyed doing M D M A. There
was there was an observation on that you heard about that, right,
I did not know? Did you hear about that one? No? No,
(29:27):
I haven't yet. God, Well, we'll keep it closer because
we're gonna we're gonna wrap. But I do want everybody
to check this out. This is a legit story to
you can find it and outlets like MPR and so on.
There was a study that gave octopuses ecstasy and ecstasy
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and human beings is known for encouraging like cuddly warm
feelings and people feel extra lovey, dovey, etcetera, etcetera, everything
is going to be okay. Uh. They found that when
you give this to an octopus, a creature that's almost
completely antisocial for most of its life except when it's mating. Uh,
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what they found is that they do a one eighty.
They do an emotional and social emotional social one eighty.
They want to hang out with other octopuses. They even
like hug them, you know, just like they're both in
their hallucinogenic cups at a party. And this is profound
because up until this discovery, scientists who had to who
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studied octopuses usually had to put them in separate, separate housing, right,
separate aquariums or whatever, so that they wouldn't kill or
eat each other. So they went from like a mad
Max Highlander, there can only be one cannibalism situation to
being like, oh my god, the colors right, and they
(30:54):
can communicate through chromatophores. So what happened when they play
the octopus is MGMT like, how did they react to that? Uh?
That that is an excellent question matter. I believe the
research is still out though it does appear. Don't quote
me on this, I'll dig into it, but there is
some I want to say. There was compelling research about
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octopuses musical preference. I can't remember what that is. I
can't remember what that is, so I made from the
electric feel that's probably what it is. It probably is,
but I wanted to give like this is some good
news forward with the future. UH, scientists who are working
around the clock. We often doing thankless jobs, but they're
doing important work. Would love to hear your experiences with
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psychedelic mushrooms. Does this news in particular surprise you? Were
you expecting experts to say that this stuff is literally
healing your brain on a physical level. Let us know
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but we've briefly talked about, you know, on Strange News. UH.
(32:22):
The situation with John mccafy um, the impresario of anti
viral software that went on to become something of a
globe trotting you know, sex freak among gun totor Um,
just all around odd guy UM, very problematic, some very
troubling allegations about this gentleman in his life, One of
(32:44):
which that happened right before he allegedly committed suicide, was
that he was doing something called pump and dump UM
where he would take to social media and Twitter UM
and I think that was his platform of choice. And
UM attempts to inflate the value of certain crypto coins
that are referred to as alt coins, meaning that they're
(33:04):
not the mainstream big dogs of the crypto sphere, being
things like ether, Bitcoin, binance coin, some more kind of
tried and true coins that that have backing behind them,
not only in terms of the volume, but also in
terms of like the code behind them, the use of
them for purposes beyond just kind of having a clever
(33:27):
name and uh and a logo associated it with it,
and so now things all coins would be things like
dose coin that obviously did get some life when when
folks like Elon Musk kind of made it their pet Project.
That's the issue with crypto is that it is very
volatile and it can be very subject to the whims
of influencers. UM. So today we're talking about a new
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scandal involving some e sports influencers a group that I've
never heard of, but I'm sure that you know either
listeners out there and possibly your kids will have heard
of an Los Angeles based e sports group or organization
called Phase Clan. UM. Essentially, it's like a group of
I think it's almost exclusively men. I only know a
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handful of them, uh, the members who are involved in
today's story, but they you know, play things like Fortnite competitively,
and they all each individually are big YouTubers with you know,
millions of followers on Twitter and of course YouTube. Um.
Several members of FAY they all have names to like
sort of like how Wu Tang Clan members all have
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like kind of names that are like sort of related.
Each of the members of the Phase Clan Uh, their
names begin with the word Phase and it's spelled f
A z um. So several members of Phase Clan. We've
got Phase k Uh, Phase Jarvis, Phase Nicon, and Phase
Tico t e q O are all allegedly involved in
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a very egregious pumping up scam involving an all coin
with the name kids k I d S. And why
do you think that is? Well, supposedly, this coin, called
long Form Save the Kids UH is a charity coin
token rather, and this is not like the kind of
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coin that you buy on like a regular crypto exchange.
This is what is called a DEFY project, which stands
for decentralized finance. So it's essentially these projects that DEFY
as I mean, for forgive me if I'm oversimplifying for
any crypto people out there, but DEFY is essentially a
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way of creating investment opportunities and projects that you know,
have some of the same types of mechanisms as traditional
banking or you know, financial exchanges do, but it's completely
decentralized and peer to peer UM for the you to
my understanding, that's that's what it means. UM. There are
tons of them, and honestly, I've invested in a few
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very small ones and actually had an experience where I
realized how scary and volatile these can be. But there
you have to be part of a something called UM.
It's a it's a very specific type of chain, uh
that uses um what's called web three point oh I believe.
Like so essentially it's a browser extension that allows you
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to link a crypto wallet to these exchanges UM and
then you're able to you know, unlock various wallets and
various they're called pools where you take cryptocurrency. For example,
this one took place on what's called the binance smart chain,
which uses binance coin, which is one of those you know,
kind of more tried and true ones. You can either
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invest the coin, convert your binance coin to whatever token
is in question, like this one is called kids. There's
other ones any name you can imagine, like gunk probably
exists as as a defied token you can stake in
just like converted to that and then stake it in
these pools, or you can basically do what's called pairing,
or you pair your regular crypto to that token, and
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then they're sort of linked together. So when one fails,
if like the token fails, you haven't lost everything. UM.
It's very interesting and and I'm very complicated, but also
uh rife for fraud because when you go to any
of these defied pages, there's a message that comes up
that says this couldn't be fake essentially, and this could
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be absolute BS proceed with caution, So you really have
to know what you're putting your money into and who's
behind it, and what the code is and what the
use of it is, and even then you could lose everything.
So kids, this company or this organization which no one
still knows who exactly came up with this coin, but
this organization called UH save the Kids, which is about
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the most cliche sounding you know, UM charity you could
possibly imagine. Everybody wants to save the kids. Everyone wants
the kids to be okay UM this token UH. There's
an advertising campaign behind it with all of these uh
these Phase clan people, you know, talking about how they
think it's a very valid um investments and it's something
that they all personally are going to hold onto our
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hotel as the crypto people say. Um. But it turns
out that most of them got their advanced UM tokens,
which means they got it before the actual you know
it opened up too regular UM people that are investing
in it and dumped it. One in particular, one member
Phase K dumped almost a hundred percent of his like
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million plus tokens twenty four hours after UM it was
available to to the public. And the research behind the
story UM that I looked into, or that I found
that I thought was the most fantastic and very very
very good internet sleuth thing was done by a YouTuber
that goes by the moniker coffee Zilla. I cannot recommend
highly enough to check out his report on this on
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his YouTube channel, but he the thing that's interesting about
does you can trace, you know, wallets. It's all public information,
so he was able to literally track down the wallets
that all of these YouTubers used to buy and flip
these alt coins, and he was able to see a
pattern in particular with with Phase K that he um
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promoted the hell out of this coin UH using hashtags,
using all the things UM, and then immediately when it
went live dumped it. All but four of these coins.
He dumped them. It's almost like keeping a memento of
your crime in a weird play UM. So that's essentially
where it stands. The most interesting part, I think in
the biggest smoking gun that coffee Zilla uncovered, because you
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can also look at the providence or the chain of
custody on the the token itself that there's developers that
that make these things, that build these things their pieces
of code, and there are like beta versions and like
one point oh and two point over versions. So he
was able using the b SC scan, which is like
the the record for finance smart chain UM transactions, he
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was able to trace the versions of this and as
sin initially, the people behind Save the Kids said, okay,
this is a total safe bed because there's it's it's
rug pull proof. Rug pulling is when someone who holds
an exorbitant amount of a particular token they're referred to
as whales, dumps all of their coins um, usually very
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uh strategically to manipulate the price, you know, to their
own benefit. Or a handful of these whales collued in
order to do that um. And it's the kind of
thing that you know, as imperfect as it is the
SCC and you know, the regulators of the Stock Exchange
there are measures in place to keep that from happening. Um.
But the folks behind Save the Kid's Token initially said,
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there this is an unrugged pullable. We have anti whale
mechanisms of place, which what which prevent anyone from selling
uh point five percent and one transaction of their holdings
right of this coin. UM. But it turns out that
the last minute, the developer changed that. Uh yeah, for
twenty four hours, UM changed that to one minute, essentially
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implying that they knew it was a scam in the
first place. UM. And again, coffee Zilla reached out to
a lot of the members of this group and to
the actual guy that developed the token and got some
really fascinating, um, just really really excellent investigative journalism from
from this YouTuber. UM. And he got the guy to
admit that he was told to do that, which implies
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that these influencers were kind of in on it from
the start. UM can't say that, you know, unequivocally, but
that's certainly what it feels like. UM yeah, and it's me.
It's essentially really highlighting how gross, uh, this kind of
influencer culture can be. UM, how rife for manipulation and
(41:56):
taking advantage of followers of of this of these you know,
influencers there can be and um, how maybe there is
need for a little more regulation. Again, I'm I'm fascinated
by the whole world of crypto and the fact that
it is kind of open ended, but this seems to
be a bridge too far, especially when charity is involved
and you're dangling this like you know, helping helping out
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under privileged kids. Also the mission of the organization super vague,
so vague, like what okay, which organizations is this going to?
Which kids are you saving? It was very unclear. So well,
it's it's interesting too because um, I think K Phase K,
who is the one on the most extreme end of
the spectrum. The WAH got kicked out of phase plan. Uh,
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he really took pains to try to distance himself from
being associated with a pumpet dump scheme, like you know,
like you said at the top that McAfee had been
accused of. But this, this is tough for him to
walk back because, uh, you know, one of his defenses
is I love this space, my wallets, public, etcetera, etcetera.
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But you can't that doesn't address the timeline, right, Like
the it goes public, the initial public offering happens, and
then within moments, uh, they've gotten rid of all but
four of these coins after after arguably purposefully inflating their value. Right,
So the question then becomes a little bit tougher to
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prove is it intention you know what I mean. Are
we to believe that someone genuinely said, Hey, I'm just
learning about a really new space. I think it's complicated,
but I messed up and I didn't mean to screw
anyone over. Is it playing dumb? That's the question. Well
with him, what coffee Zilla uncovered, you know through again
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tracing the Again, these transactions are all public, and he
figured out who's while it was who's Um the other
members of Phase Clan, their behavior was much less egregious
and and showed much less nefarious intent because in general, um,
this hapens a lot where like an alt coin will
pay like an influencer, say to pump up there to
to promote this project. Um. So if you don't really
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believe in it and you're just doing it to collect
the free tokens, make no mistake, they're getting these for
free initially as their payment. That's the only way they're
going to cash in as if they like, you know,
sell them right. Um And and these projects can can
turn on a dime, guys, like it's crazy. Again. I've
only done a couple, but I had one where you know,
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it was trading it like a couple of bucks and
the next day because I was very new. But this
next day I looked at it and it was less
than a cent, you know, and thankfully I was not
in it much at all. But these these projects can
really go south, especially if there isn't that anti whale
protection and the fact that they advertised him as unrugged, pullable,
total anti whale you know, protections in place and then
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literally changed it right before going public to one minute
time limit for selling not even a percentage apparently, you know,
based on Phase K's behavior, as much of it as
he wanted. Um. But some of the other members who
were not kicked out of Phase Clan, who were just
uh suspended, three of them, you can look at their history,
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their transaction history, and they're much more likely to have
been holding some of these projects. So it seems that
in the past they were more in it because they
did believe in it, to your point, Ben, but it
seems like Phase ks patterns were much more. Overall, he's
in it for himself and he's in it to pump
and dump and a lot of these It needs to
be said that a lot of the members of Phase
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Clan and in in a ton of the followers are
themselves quite young, you know what I mean. That's why
I said, your kids, you know, I mean, this is
a great this is something that I'm not in on really,
And I asked my kid if she'd heard of him,
so she hadn't either, and she's pretty into the twitch stuff.
But you're absolutely right then. And um, there's a great
article uh that these are a lot of these Uh.
These dudes, by the way, are British. Um. Phase K
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absolutely is. And there's a really great article from e
sports news dot co dot uk that has a quote
from SEC chairman Gary Gensler UM, who obviously is a
proponent of regulating the crypto markets, and he said, of
this type of situation, uh quote, I would like to see, No,
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we need tighter restrictions, penalties and disclaimers put in place
to better protect young, impressionable people out there that might
take their favorite influencers words as gospel and and there's
a larger there's a larger context here, I would argue,
which is that phase plan. You know, some people say
they reached their height of relevance during the call of
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duty glory days And what I wish was more reported
in some of these stories, I realize it's an ongoing event,
and it's the oral borrows of social media chatter. Right,
it consumes its tail eventually. But the bigger point here,
at least in my opinion and may be wrong, is
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that this is an example of something that many, many
other groups or influencers could easily do right. And some
people get a little bit of a blindness when they
see Um. I don't know why. I always thought the
badge thing was silly, but some people get a little
bit of blindness when they see someone they follow that
maybe has like a blue checkmark or what are the
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authority uh the authentication things, and that person says, hey,
you're a fan of mine. I really like this. I
endorse that you know what I mean that people like
this doesn't have to be restricted to the world of
gaming plans. This could happen with someone who is a
makeup mayven. This could happen with someone who I don't
know what do what do people review? There's someone who
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like just does chicken sandwiches and the chicken sandwich guys
like chicken coin right now? Do we have any cryptocurrencies
upcoming in the next couple of quarters, guys? Uh no, No,
we're not. To do that. Yeah, my favorite. You're right. Then,
By the way, anyone who has sufficient enough reach could
do this right. And that's why it's been looked at
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so toughly at people like Elon Musk and you know
Mr McAfee, uh, because they've got they've got that reach,
interest and money and they just go, hey, check it
out and then they make a ton of money when
they us. Did you know Phase has an Atlanta clan
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or a subclan, Yes, and they are badasses at Call
of duty. To tell me more about this this situation, like,
how many people are we talking? When I hear Phase
Clan again, I think of like a rap group and
there's like ten guys total. But this is a very
large organization subgroups kind of because okay, so the I
forgive me Phase Clan fellow people who out there, if
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you're listening. But my understanding is that the Atlanta group
is only like three to five maybe four people, and
they specialize in Call of Duty, so they they live
and die call of duty all day long. They win
tournaments playing Call of Duty. There's oh gosh, I remember
seeing something about them winning. They won something pretty recently.
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I remember hearing about this but then there are others
that just play, um lord, I'm blanking all the other
things like FIFA. Some people the only play pub g
yeah or Fortnite or those kind of things. But then
you'll have smaller crews who just do that. Some people
are just content creators who are members of Phase plan
so influencers, not that the pro gamers aren't probably influencers
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in their own right. Some people are are more the
video creators and that's what they specialize in. But hey,
if you're out there Atlanta, Phase, hit us up. I'd
love to chat with somebody about what that's like to
live your life right now being a pro gamer. I'm
just gonna say that if you if you know Sonya,
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the Black Widow, Thomas or you know will be Ashi,
or if you listen to the show and you're one
of those people, or if you've just been Nates hot
Dog contests, Dude, Atlanta, Atlanta Phase eats Nubs like like
Black Widow eats Nathan's minutes. The stats I was getting
this derailed. No, No, we're we're we're there, guys. I
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mean they're just just to to sew it up Phase clan,
you know, proper issue to statement. Um, we have made
the decision to remove K from Phase Clan and have
suspended Jarvis Nican an Tico until further notice. Phase Clan
has absolutely no involvement with our members activity in the
cryptocurrency space, and we strongly condemn their recent behavior. The
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trust and respect of our fans has been and will
always be our number one priority. So, uh, there you go.
And just again just so you understand, fully, I think
we made this said this along the way, but I
mean this, this project, this token, it absolutely crumbled night.
Um it started off and and then this is like
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very similar to to like does right, these are fractions
of are a couple of cents right per share? That's
why that's what we're talking about, dealing in volumes of millions.
And I think at the end of the day, Uh,
Phase K made around thirty grand American off of this deal.
Uh probably not worth all of the piece having to
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eat now, UM, I would argue. And uh so it
started off at an all time high point zero zero
forty four on June tenth, and then after that sell off,
it absolutely tanked the token and went down to point
zero zero eleven. And at the time of this piece
in crypto Slate dot Com by Liam Frost. It was
worth point zero zero thirteen, so essentially worthless. And it's
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an ongoing story, so there are going to be more
updates to follow, not just on the saga of Phase Plan,
but on the ethics of crypto in general. Were also
going to learn more about ads in our dreams and
who knows. At some point, doctor near you may prescribe
(52:10):
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