September 1, 2025 • 68 mins
US Nationals captured attempting an info war to destablize Greenland. A lawsuit emerges on an airline. A cardboard cartel is in play and, it appears, actively conspiring against you. All this -- plus an orgy dome -- in this week's strange news segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Nobel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. And guys, I gotta
tell you, if you've been reading the news, do you
feel some of it is strange?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Maybe he's just a handful of stories.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Okay, great, thank you, Thank you Matt, because hopefully all
our fellow conspirac realist agree. This is indeed our weekly
strange news program. If you are listening the evening it publishes,
we have some we have some weird news for you, folks.
Just here at the top, Dylan, if we could get
(01:16):
like a bittersweet sound cue little satdur inspired at the end,
amazing perfect. Welcome to September one, folks, August twenty twenty
five is officially done. It's done, so heck yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It's also finally kind of fall weather.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I think we're in true perma fall and it's not
another fake out fall. It feels glorious outside today.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, it does feel glorious here at our fair metropolis
of Atlanta. You can have a great time walking around.
We encourage you to always do as people have said lately,
touch grass, get out there in nature, take height, wave
to a coyote if you're in Matt's neighborhood, that kind
of stuff. Unfortunately, we do have to start with a
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little bit of a sad story and a big thank
you to everybody who reported from Burning Man. Guys, things
didn't work out at the orgy Dome.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
What could go wrong? I really don't know the answer, Guys,
this is due to me. What's going on with the
orgy Dome? First of all, what is it?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Well? I think it's probably self explanatory, but.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, it's not an ironic name, got it?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, Before you get into it and what it is,
I'm looking at an article from the Mirror Ben and
Noll and here's the title, burning Man. Orgy Dome requires
a lot of preparation involving wet wipes and gloves and
maybe some.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Lube and maybe they should have focused on the structure. Now, look,
we're an audio podcast currently, so in full disclosure, I
did have to use a must for some other things recently.
I do associate mustaches with sleazy guys from the seventies.
(03:07):
This is not a permanent thing, so please don't think
facial hair on our side is any way related to
the notorious orgy dome of Burning Man. As Matt said,
this does require some preparation. Can sense being key in
that preparation, and it's one of the most well known
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attractions at burning Man For anybody who doesn't know. Burning
Man is the infamous flagship of things that are called
burns across various parts of the globe where people get together,
and originally they focused on community art, self expression, self reliance,
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rejection of capitalism, things of that nature. Burning Man, as
the big ticket item, is a week long desert event
out in the middle of nowhere in the Western United States,
and its name comes from this, I think the second
to last night of the week where they burn a
huge effigy Wickerman style, right that that's why they call
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it Burning Man.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
How's that rejection of capitalism going? It seems like it's
a real hotspot for top dogs in the capitalist universe.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
If I'm mistaken, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Ar ketamine MICRODOSINGE tech Bros. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's a lot
of criticism of the main big tent Burning Man endeavor
because it is often seen as falling to the wayside
of its original mission. However, since the beginning of Burning
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Man as a concept, they've been very into something they
call the orgy Dome, which is just what it says
on the Ten Folks Burning Man. Due to its location
since nineteen ninety, it's been in a place called black
Rock City in northwestern Nevada. A lot of people who
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are familiar with other semi off the grid things like
Rainbow gatherings are already going to know about Burning Man
and regional burns. The orgy Dome encountered disaster just this
August because it was destroyed by high winds right as
the Big Orgy Dome event began.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh, man an entire Can you imagine thousands of people
with blue balls? That's just the worst. I've got a
quote here from the Mirror that same article. This is
from a first time visitor who talked to Cosmopolitan who
was surprised by how long the line was to get
in the orgy Dome. And this is I guess before
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thing happened.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Before the winds really got him.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, before the winds on the interior
of the dome begin to kick up. You know what
I mean, because of all the activity. Here's the quote.
It's like the DMV. You get a number, then you
talk to one guy and take a test on the rules.
Then you wait some more and then she said the
best part about it is the air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, and that originally was not the case. That was
not always the case. If we go to the orgy
domes official social media, which is on Instagram named in
a burst of Creativity orgy Dome All one word, we
see the following statement from two days ago, as we
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record on August twenty seven, twenty five quote, our build
team worked so hard this past week to erect our
lovely space. Unfortunately, the winds yesterday and did all that
labor and wrecked our structure. We are still here and
thankfully safe. We hope to gift the PLAIA some workshops
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and we'll keep you updated. So the more conservative conspiracy
theory here is that God finally had enough.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, yeah, did you know one of the.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Let's not bring God into this.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, well, everybody's welcome at the Dome. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The president on the Board of Directors of the Orgy
Dome is named Tom aka Baby.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Jesus nominative determinism.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Perhaps what's his last name is out of curiosity so
we can say the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Nobody knows. Tom's going to Bernie Mansons twenty thirteen, joined
the camp in twenty eighteen and he's currently the lead
of Communications committee there.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Tom Baby Jesus McGillicuddy. We're just going to use our imagination,
why not?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And so with that we're let's give you a again.
We love a primary source, So let's give you some
statements from the comments for our friends at Orgy Dome.
Quote that's Jesus Christ saving people from STDs. Upwards of
five thousand likes. H imagine slighting a metal frame together
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with the tarp and calling it hard work. Favorite one
favorite one. I guess the wind came first. Don't worry,
it happens.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Dut real quick. Is this an official orgy Dome or
is it just okay? Interesting? Because I guess that's it's
not illegal to have orgies?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Is people are consenting. No, not yet.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's so funny.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I guess I'm just sort of like puritanical washed by
just living in this very you know, kind of prudish society.
That that just seems remarkably weird to me, that that is,
you know, just advertised.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But why if it's going.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
To be advertised somewhere, why not burning Man? And you know,
speaking of God intervening, what if the wouldn't burning Man
and all of this be sort of a Sodom and
Gomorah type situation potentially for God to smite all of
these desert dwelling centers. In one fell swoop, you also
take out some of the top CEOs the planet as well.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
In thought, stuff to think about, and speaking of weird,
we have so much more stuff to get to. We
gotta talk about the Gallain Maxwell update and all the
fallout there. There's some exciting science coming out of Japan.
Not to sound like a broken window there, there are
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some of course, aviation shenanigans. There's a cartel we wanted
to mention, there's some widespread surveillance and what about this, guys,
Can we take a break for a word from our
sponsors and then talk about the latest failed coup attempt.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, that's how my all means.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And we have returned breaking news and unfortun breaking news
just published today as we were recording the early morning
ET time, the Danish foreign minister has summoned the top
US diplomat in Copenhagen to get some answers. You see, guys,
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it turns out that American nationals linked to the current
presidential administration have attempted to pull something our Russian friends
and our company friends have done time and time again
in the past. These guys wanted to infiltrate Greenland and
they wanted to run covert influencing operations there, with the
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goal being for the United States to take possession of
Greenland as either a territory or a fifty first state. Now,
before we continue, can we recap real quick, like where
this story came from and how Greenland became this bauble
or holy grail.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I just remember the President floating this idea of doing
this thing, and it was met with skepticism maybe to
say the least, and irritation perhaps What.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Was the deal? Why?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, I don't know why, Like it's such an odd
thing to flex with, you know, white Greenland.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, the issue there is that the current US president
has repeatedly sort of floated the idea of the US
taking possession of Greenland for well, they'll save security for
the US. But really it's because this is a resource
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rich territory. Everybody, check out our earlier episode, oh gosh,
years back, guys on the race to control the Arctic.
Remember that as the ice coverage was disintegrating, continues to
do so.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
The Arctic also being a hotspot no pun intended for science,
and there's a lot of you know, mutually agreed upon
kind of little science fiefdoms there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Absolutely, absolutely, and even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
this was already an issue of great concern to the boffins.
And if you look at the maps, it's similar to
the East Asian sphere. When you ask each country how
much water or how much ocean territory they control, you
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get very different answers. When you ask all the countries
limiting the rim of the Arctic as a region, you
will get widely different answers on what portion of that
they think they control. And they're looking for rare earth minerals,
they're looking for fossil fuels, of course, eternally. They're also
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looking low key for some new biological organisms. To your
point about science wild stuff, And to be completely honest
and fair, the current presidential administration has not ordered some
invasion of Greenland, has not declared that there will be
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a war of any sort or what did our buddy
Vlad call it? A special military operation?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
So special and also like biological organisms in the arctor
we're talking about like the thing type scenario like this
is very interesting to me. Sorry, maybe a topic for
another day, but such a special military operation.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I'm with you, I hope, so, I hope we find
something interesting. But the issue here is that Greenland is
semi autonomous, but if you ask the United Nations, Greenland
is under Denmark and Denmark is not happy about this.
So our buddy Lars lok Rosmussen, the foreign minister we
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mentioned earlier, he said, look, we're aware of what we
call foreign interest in Greenland, and we are not surprised
that there were influence attempts from our buddies across the
pond at this. This is very bad for the US
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because coups and disinfo campaigns happen all the time. It's
just embarrassing to get caught doing that.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
You know, I was wondering, like, what does Greenland make?
What are their exports? And as you could maybe imagine,
ninety percent of its export are fishing. Fishing exports shrimp
and halibit, and apparently their economy currently relies heavily on
Danish subsidies.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, perhaps I was not aware.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Of because it is property of the Kingdom of Denmark.
I suppose in large part which den is a NATO
ally or a NATO member, which means it would be Yeah,
it would be such an issue, like such a crazy
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thing to try and do. I always imagined all the
all the public statements by whatever administration, no matter what
country they're from, talking about taking over Denmark, whether it's
the United States or Russia, is just bluster or I
don't know. It doesn't seem like it would make any
sense to actually take action there.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It says, God, flex it's just weird.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, here's how we do it, here's how we do it.
We might lose a couple of stories just to discuss
this and get this in the public. I do think
it's important. The way you do it is you don't
have a bunch of tanks and air support roll in.
But you do instead is send in some folks to
clock and identify thought creators, thought leaders, as America would say.
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And that's what was allegedly happening here. This has not
gone to a court case.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So an information war to win hearts and minds.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Hearts and minds. That's why we use this phrase so
often that I'm using it now. So there is, as
we know, at least three people, possibly US nationals, were
being very careful about this who came to Greenland, and
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at least one of them did the textbook company Stuff
compiled a list of US friendly Greenlanders and then compiled
a dark list, a bad list of people who were
opposed to the current US administration, and then looked for
ways to further propagandize Denmark as mismanaging the affairs of Greenland,
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which is a very big deal because Greenland, in the
nature of their relationship with Denmark, Greenland is autonomous for
its internal affairs. Denmark's agreement is that if anybody in
the wide world bugs you, our buddies, the Danes are
going to run interference. Our buddies, the Danes are in
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charge of foreign affairs, right. Stuff that happens elsewhere that
might affect Greenland.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And also we'll take a nice deal on all that
halibit if you don't mind, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's that old joke? Someone does something crazy,
They murder everybody at a seafood counter and they say,
why do you do it? Why did you do that?
And they say, for the halibitt?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Whoa new low?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
So this is and luckily it's not our low. That's
a very old joke. Be careful with it. It's an antique.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I actually made that joke the other day because there's
caliban on the menu at a restaurant and I said,
let's get it, just for the halibit, just for the yell.
I get the smell of it. Here's the hot rod. Sorry,
I'm doing a little shoop dop dop. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So we don't know how this is going to unfold. Unfortunately,
at this point, there is so much going on in
the world today that it is quite possible this will
miss the news, or this will be, you know, a
flash in the pan of Arctic escalations. We do understand,
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of course, this occurs in step with a long history
of other attempted and failed coups tied to in particular
the Russian, the French, and the American governments. We previously
discussed briefly a while back some failed coup attempts on
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the behalf of American nationals in Venezuela, for instance.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Well, and shout out to the podcast you wrote, Ben,
let's start a coup if you want to learn more
about how that's done.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh jeez, thank you so much. Noel with our pal
Alex French, good friend of the show, and our good
friends at Schooling Humans also shout out to you. Just
set this off, Mike Robert Evans, who helms the wonderful
podcast Behind the Bastards. It could happen here a ton
of other things. They have a new show out that
(19:22):
I love called Weird Little Guys.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, there may well be
a little crossover with the Weird Little Guys coming down
the pike one of these days.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That would be fun.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yes, Hope Springs Eternal. We want to end on for
this part. We want to end on some good news.
Do you guys want history good news or science good news?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I got some science good news coming in my segment,
so maybe history good news.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Short then gosh, what Is there a.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Dealersh choice bend, whichever one you're most passionate about.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sure, is there a specific group bad guy eyes that
might be coming up again?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You know what's funny that applies to both stories?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Is it? The foot Clan are seeing the rise of
the foot.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
The rise of the foot. We trusted foot Locker all along,
and they were the fifth foot.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Column, the foot front.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Let's do this. It's about a group of people who
up till recently were historically regarded as very bad with reason.
So we were talking on ridiculous history not too too
long ago, about the idea of Indiana Jones right, the
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idea that certain things belong in a museum. And as
every fan of post World War II historical fiction is
well aware, the National Socialist Party of Germany aka the
Nazis did a lot of bad stuff. As our pal
Norm MacDonald used to say, the more I learned about
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this Hitler guy, the less I like him.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Not a good dude, not no, not.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I wanted to do a joke, but no, he's just
a beat me or pieces. You don't even have to
beat me on that one. So we know that ever
since the atrocities committed by the Nazi Party in Germany
along with the assistance of the Axis powers. There have
been untold treasures stolen, secreted away. Right, some may still
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be hidden in parts of Eastern Europe. We did a
little bit of research on that some may still be
in the hands of private collectors or indeed secreted away
in certain Swiss banking institutions, or hidden through the rat
lines in parts of South America. Looking at you, Argentina
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and Chile. The good news is that eighty years ago
the Party, in the commission of genocide, they looted a
bunch of paintings and a bunch of priceless artwork, sculptures, frescoes,
again paintings. In particular, there was a Jewish art dealer
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in Amsterdam and the Nazi stole a bunch of stuff
from this guy. He had again committed no crime except
for his identity. We fast forward right, World War II
was so long ago for the humans. There is a
real estate agent who has selled a house in Argentina,
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and in the advertisement for this house this person is selling,
you can see portrait of a lady by Giuseppe Gizlanti,
which is hanging above a sofa inside a really nice
house near Buenos Aires that was once owned by a
senior Nazi official who made it to South America after
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the Second World War. People have been looking at for
this forever. It is on a database of lost wartime
art and when this Nazi official's daughter put the house
up for sale, a couple of people who still had
their eyes on this stolen art said, hang on, this
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is a conspiracy afoot. This is what happened. We're reporting
this with great thanks to Tom MacArthur from BBC News.
This came out just yesterday as we're recording. It's an
issue because whatever Argentinian government's post World War two activities were,
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they did eventually become a signatory to an international agreement
to help trace these stolen treasures and this stolen artwork.
There's a second piece that was discovered on the sister
of the former owners social media. But before we get
to that, guys, what do you think should happen?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah? Where should it? Who should it be returned to?
Is that the question? Like? What? What museum?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Perhaps, or what like what's what country? Is it about
the country of origin?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Perhaps? Yeah, I don't know, I'm not I don't have
enough information anything.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Certainly be in a museum and not in somebody's house
for sale. No doubt that.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
What's that indie line that you love to do?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
It belongs in a museum, damn right right, and thank
you for the alley oop there man.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
This is this is a thing that is is tricky
to your point, Noel, because it was created by one
of what we would call the old masters shout out
to W. H. Auden. But it also was stolen yeah,
in the the Commission of genocide, to be clear, trying
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to delete from the books of history and entire people.
You can't you can't imagine everybody just shrugging and saying, okay,
we'll let this conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Go, right, let's send it back to Germany and make
them give it back to somebody else. Oh wow, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
No, don't be sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
There's some poetry to it. We also have some descriptions
from weirdly enough, this is talking to some Dutch news programs.
We have descriptions and interviews with some of the family members. Now,
of course, these kids could not choose their parents anymore
than anybody else. But one of the sisters involved said, quote,
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I don't know what information you want from me, And
I don't know what painting you're talking about? How many
paintings are there right there?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And I'm sorry, man, I hope I didn't miss this detail.
This is this is an individual speaking about this, like
how this thing ended up in their collection.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
This is more a very well to do family saying
that they don't know what painting.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How can we possibly keep?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Okay, oh oh, a legendary Italian painting of a contessa.
You're going to have to be a little more specific.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, you're referring to my Caravaggio or no, exactly portrait
of a lady that that's obviously a title that gets
thrown around in other works, right, I mean I feel
like there's like works of period fiction that carry that name.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Maybe I'm the portrait of a lady on fire. That's
the thing. Interesting.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
When you said that, I immediately was like, well, surely
that's like a well known painting that exists in a
museum already. But that is a pretty basic name, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It is a portrait of a lady.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Now I want to help you, but could you tell
me again which faberge Egg in particular you.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Know, the one, the one that's shaped like a carriage
that has a hidden Matrushka egg inside.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Again, if you could just be a little more specific
and scope in, I'll try to get the help to
look through the vault. That's where we're kind of at
with this. We've got a lot more to get to.
The story that we didn't cover is exciting science. The
world's first behavior transplant between species has been achieved. Maybe
(27:39):
we get to that next week. For time here, we're
going to pause for a word from our sponsors and
we'll return with more of our weekly Strange News segment.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And we've returned. We are jumping to July thirtieth for
this story own way back. A lot has happened. Mm hmm, yeah,
very correct. Yes, we're gonna talk about International Paper Incorporated
and a bunch of other companies. Oh, let's let's talk
(28:16):
about that Packaging Corporation of America, International Paper Company, SMURFET,
West Rock, KAPA, North America, West Rock CP, Georgia Pacific
Cascades Incorporated, Cascades USA, and the holding US BRAT Industries,
Graphic Packaging International and Grief or GRIEFE g R e
(28:37):
I F Incorporated. These are a bunch of companies. What
they do is they manufacture stuff like paper pulp.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I'm so sorry, Matt, I was unmute. I just have
to say, grief incorporated?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Is that real?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's probably like grief for different.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Sounds like it'd be like a funeral home cartel or something.
I'm sorry, it just destruck me as odd. Please carry on.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
All I know is they're incorporated and they create paper
pulp and other things that are and they also manufacture
things like corrugated cardboard and very specific packaging all kinds.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The other day, yeah, last week, cardboard.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I just brought it up as in like, hey, there's
the thing going on. Well, we're going to talk about
it because this kind of sucks and it's way bigger
than even this class action lawsuit that's being filed, and
we're going to talk about is. Let's jump to the
stories comes to us from Reuters via Mike Scirella Scarea
(29:37):
maybe again. On July thirtieth, twenty twenty five, International Paper
and other cardboard makers hit with US price fixing class
action lawsuit. So all of those people, all those companies
and corporations that I just named, including International Paper, they
have been accused in this new lawsuit of conspiring to
fix prices and inflate prices for key raw materials like
(30:02):
that paper pulp they're used to make cardboard boxes and
merchandise displays. This is a crazy deal because it's not
like they raised them a little bit and and it
just the prices are just going on because of inflation, guys. No, no, no, no, no,
no no no. Specifically, the lawsuit is saying that these
organizations collectively raised prices by thirty percent overall since late
(30:27):
twenty twenty because.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
They were they were they're a limited group of suppliers.
Just so we know, merchandise displays that we're talking about
are something you're going to see every day anytime you
go to a physical art store, right, Yeah, a grocery store.
It's the stuff on what we call the end cap
where there's like a there's a sturdy card we're box holding,
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you know, the stuff that is that is branded.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
You know sometimes the spokesperson right and give the thumbs.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Abisco, the brawny towel man, stuff of that nature.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, and it's everything from pizza boxes. So imagine how
many pizza boxes you've seen in your life.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Is the thing that makes it corrugated, the little wiggies
on the inside.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, layers, Yeah, okay, c COO.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Cool moving boxes. If you ever went to U haul
before or the home depot or any of those places
that got boxes, banker boxes and again, packaging boxes, shipping boxes,
all the boxes. So in your mind you may think, well,
see twenty twenty, that's around the time pandemic was really
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in swing. It makes sense because there's so many more
boxes in our lives now than there were before that.
That's when the Amazon craze thing really began. That's when
every company out there that offers goods is giving you
that whole We'll ship it right to your house like tomorrow,
maybe even we'll get it to you as fast as
we possibly can. Please buy from us by our stuff,
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don't go to Amazon, which is because Amazon is dominating
everything so hard. It makes sense that prices would go
up at least a little bit because demand for all
of this cardboard, in all of these paper products skyrocketed
at that time, and that would make sense, But thirty
percent for paper pulp products, it's very it seems like
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way too much. So if you jump down to the lawsuit,
you can check this out, by the way, you can
look it up. The plaintiff in this lawsuit, by the way,
or this proposal for a class action lawsuit is are
TWUSO Pastry Foods Corporation that is aart USO pastry Foods Corporation.
And I don't know how this group and their attorneys
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figured out that all of these groups somehow uniformly increased
their prices, you know, by ticks, at the same exact
time over all of these times. Because it says the
manufacturers violated US anti trust law through quote numerous unprecedented
and unjustified price increases, often implemented at the exact same time,
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and for the exact same price increase.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's the coordination that got them.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well yeah, because now nobody can be the person or
the corporation you go to to get slightly cheaper versions
of that thing. It means competition or the thing that's
supposed to drive competition gets eliminated. And now you just
choose somebody and it's and if there are enough of
these groups working together, you can have let's say, a
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company like Georgia Pacific that is going to manufacture a
whole bunch of products like this. But they're going to
focus on certain regions, let's say of the world or
of the United States, and then another big corporation could,
let's say, focus in another area, and everybody gets their
slice of the pie because guys were in this cardboard
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pie together, this pizza pie, this box filled with US currency.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Corrugated corruption and conspiracy. You'll love to see it because
also at such a word loophole, here's what plausibly happens.
Our pastry company gets this crazy price rise, right, and
they know there's a free market. So they go to
this other company and lo and behold the same thing
as occurred. So they go to this third company and
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cheepers low and behold part two electric Googloo. And now
they're starting to put the pieces together. It is interesting
that it took a corporation to do this because plausibly,
here's the insidious, very clever ethics aside part. The average
individual consumer would not have clocked this.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
No, no, but we'd all noticed that prices for everything
would be increasing pretty extensively and seem to outpace every
other variable that would increase prices. And so you're like, WHOA,
why is everything so expensive?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
When I go to the grocery store. Well, guess what,
you know what you're all the products in the center aisles.
You know, it's in what those are inside cardboard materials.
Not necessarily these exact cardboard, container board, liner board and
all that stuff, but very similar products. And if this
is happening, where this lawsuit is drilling down into these
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specific paper products, you can only imagine that it's happening
across the board in other ways. The cardboard.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Uh, that was worth it, my gosh, Yes.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But you know, I think you're absolutely right. But because
nobody would be talking about that unless I don't know,
unless somebody, you know, like a General Mills or some
huge brand would say, well, we got to increase prices
a little bit because our packaging prices have just gone crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So yeah, I got to tell you. And personal anecdotes.
I don't know how helpful they are to the show,
but I got to tell you, Matt, this one is
really speaking to me. Because not to brag or high
road anyone, but earlier this morning I went and bought
some toilet paper. That's what it's like at the top.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I do.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I am a fan of bidets. Shout out to NOL. However,
getting that toilet paper. I was astounded by the price
increases when I had only been on the road for
maybe two and a half weeks or so, right, and
that measurably ticked up. And I think we're just all
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as consumers, as again, individual consumers, we're not really clocking
the baked in cost. We're clocking the retail price going up.
So to your point, it's devilishly easy to not be
aware of how those production cost are getting folded in
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because the cardboard cartels are not charging you, they're charging
the companies that are then passing that cost onto you,
just like i'll say it tariffs. So I'm thinking of
cereal boxes. Right. When's the last time anybody bought a
box of cereal in a reusable glass container? If you
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have right in because I don't know if that exists.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah. I was so excited back in the day when
they introduced the concept of just these plastic giant bags
of cereal instead of the little boxes. But then I
thought about all the oil involved in you know what,
I never considered glass bottles, glass containers of cereal. That
feels like something a wealthy person does, kind of like
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with a container of whiskey or something.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
But I mean, I don't know about you, guys, but
that's like the main reason I Buypasta sauce is because
you get a free glass at the end.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh yeah, only drink out of ball products everybody and
or reused.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
That's that cannot be our parable, Matt.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I only drink out of commemorative McDonald's glasses from the
night that the ones with really high cadmium content.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know, the catmium just makes it, Pope, give it
a little extra.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Mommy, I'm not kidding you guys want to say it's
it's mostly Mason jars here in this house and old
pint glasses from when I was in my twenties and
I went to a bunch of different like beer fests
around Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I love it. I love the commemorative stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, put stacks of them fast man.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
So that's a great note, by the way, a peak
behind the curtain. Folks. No matter what you think about
the the four of us or the five of us
you listening along at home, please remember it's great to
save money. Odds. Oh, it's some nice reusable glassware. Like
I don't think any of us are above it unless
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Dylan sends us an angry message in the chat.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Huh No, I don't know that Dylan's ever sent an
angry message to anyone in his life.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, besides the cardboard folks. He's doing that right now.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
That's an off air revelation into our super producer's personality. Matt,
do we know, like this lawsuit is in play right now?
There have been no conclusions or where are we at?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh? No conclusions? Yeah, this is basically that's funny if
you actually read the document here looking currently at the
Sherman anti trust law from eighteen ninety, which is what
this lawsuit is based on, anti trust practices. Here, where
is it? Here we go? What was filed was a
class action complaint demand for jury trial. Okay, so right
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now it's just like, hey, this is going to be
a thing. We want a class action lawsuit. And they're
saying that there are potentially hundreds of thousands of other
corporations companies just like Artiso Pastry Foods Corporation. It says
them individually and on behalf of all others similarly situated.
So anybody that sells pizza and uses those boxes has
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to buy those as part of their cost of doing business.
And anybody that has end caps, anybody that does any
kind of I guess cardboard packaging, whatsoever, probably haul you
haul is going to get in there. They're a real upset.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Oh my gosh, can you wait till the FedEx folks
get in on this. They're going to go nuts. As
you mentioned Amazon, The issue here, I think that gives
us a lot of sand on the lawsuit is that
past a certain threshold of business in the US, and
indeed and broad there is no way to find different
companies for this.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Correct, Yeah, at least to my knowledge. I'm going to
read a little bit more from this Reuter's article and
then we'll jump out of the story goes. It says
price increases in the corrugated box market quote drastically outpaced
what the lawsuit described as a modest rise in demand
over the period covered by the complaint, and as demand
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fell in recent years, the price increases continued, which is
one of the big things here. It's not costing more
and more and more and more and more to produce
paper pulp, would be the argument, then, why and how
could all of these different companies all be increasing their
prices in the same way at the same time by
the same amount. That doesn't seem to match up with
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any other variables. You can learn a ton more if
you look it up. It's pretty simple. Maybe the best
thing to search would be cardboard price fixing. Probably that's
the best thing. You can see a lot about it, guys.
There's one other story that we're not gonna fully talk
about here, but you should definitely look it up. There's
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this company called Flock Safety that we have talked about
before on this show. This is a company that specifically
has cameras that are all over the place around four
thousand communities across the United States. These cameras are mounted
up everywhere and they are doing pretty specific thing. They're
(42:23):
looking at license plates. They read, scan, check out license plates,
and see where everybody goes. Well for a minute there
they were working with the Department of Homeland Security and
the Customs and Border Protection Crew there, I guess, and
they have decided to stop doing that out of fears
(42:45):
of what information they're actually providing. Department of Homeland Security
and these other groups like ICE. They're worried about a
lot of things. But there's a specific thing that you
can look up right now that they're worried about where
a sheriff was looking for specific woman and that woman
was suspected of I guess or wanted because she had
(43:06):
an abortion in an area where there are now state
laws against that, and flock Safety realized, oh crap, These
law enforcement officers can use this technology for anything they want,
and not just the stuff that we are attempting to,
you know, sell our product and services.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
For, including personal stocking.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
By the way, yes, but that's actually kind of good
news because flock Safety at least appears to be acknowledging
that that's a problem in stopping some of the behaviors
that we're putting, you know, people at risk. So yay,
look it up. You can find it on AP News
in a bunch of other places. Again, flock Safety, flock Safety.
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All right, we'll be right back with more strange news.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
And we have returned with the story of drama in
the friendly skies, or in this case, maybe the not
so friendly skies, and then we're gonna follow that up
and wrap with a very positive medical story out of Japan.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I bring up this Delta Airline.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Story because we are, of course here in Atlanta and
we all love flying those friendly skies, but they are
not immune to situations. As Ben might put it, a
male Delta passenger is suing the airline, claiming that he
was open handed slap by a flight attendant on a
Delta flight.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Georgia.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Dad is suing Delta Airlines after he claims a flight
attendant slapped him in the face during an altercation provoked
by a simple request for his family to be served water,
a move his lawyer claims was pure prejudice.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
This is from the New York Post, which we don't
always love, but it.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Seems to be a relatively matter of fact report of
this incident, at least as in terms of the allegations
from this individual named Mohammed shib Lee Shabilee, Yeah, I
think that's right, who along with his wife and four
year old son and two year old son, were on
a Delta flight from Atlanta to Fresno, California, on July
twenty ninth, when his youngest requested water.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
And as the New York Post puts, it was.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Crying for water, he and his legal team said during
a news conference on Tuesday. When the plane took off
and flight attendants made their rounds offering refreshments to passengers,
the accused attendant allegedly refused to serve Shibili's wife.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
He told reporters, I'm just going to read the rest
of this because it's short.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Shabili vin got up and went to the back area
of the plane to request water, but the same flight
attendant allegedly refused, again, using a very disrespectful tone with him.
He said he did successfully get water from another attendant,
who apologized for their coworker. Despite the apologies, the situation escalated,
and ultimately, after a back and forth with the Q
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flight attendant, Shibili claims that she slapped him after she
whispered a vulgar word into his ear, prompting him to
stand up and launch into some choice words of his own.
And then that's when he accuses her of snapping and
hitting him in the face open palm as hard as
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she could.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
There is a somewhat of a twist here.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Again, this is just allegedly, but the lawyer went on
to cite an alleged incident of discrimination by the airline
against Palestinians. When last July, an ex user posted two
photos of Delta flight attendants wearing Palestinian flag pins, which
were incorrectly described as Hamas Badger's during the flights.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yikes, not cool.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
Prompting a response from the airline, And I mean not
cool in terms of that's obviously incredibly reductive and insulting
to refer to them as that. So there is an
implication here, because of Shebili's national or perceived nationality, that
this represented a pattern of discrimination. At least that's what
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the lawyers are saying.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Do we go to the specific pejorative.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
No, we don't, Okay, we do not, just that it
was nasty as it was reported here. The lawyer posed
the question is this a single, isolated incident or is
it one a platform of clear discrimination against Palestinians to
a history of physical violence from Delta employees and three
negligent hiring. And this is coming from the lawyer Ali Awad,
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who claimed the incident was triggered by Shoulbili's wife's shirt,
which had the word Palestine on it.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
So I'm going to look confused about the sighting of.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
You know, like wearing of Palestinian flags by flight attendants
as being a negative here. It would seem that that
would represent support of Palestinians. So it's a little convoluted
in the way this is being reported, But I do
want to say that I have an inside scoop on
this story. Someone that I've been hanging out with is
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a flight attendant for Delta and is the one that
hit me to the story in the first place, and
sent me some chatter from some kind of Delta centric
flight attendants forums, which I know that you're aware of,
Ben as well as I know you have relationships with
folks who have worked for that organization as well, and
there's a lot of groups on the Internet communities for
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folks that are employed by Delta and I'm sure other airlines.
So and initially she sent me a report just kind
of giving the rundown of the press release and the
statement from the lawyer, but then sent me a really
interesting screenshot of a thread on another forum. Was on
that flight with my wife in fifteen month old daughter.
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Flight attendant never slapped him. He in fact pushed one
of the flight attendants. Next, we've got another comment from
somebody who was on board. I was waiting on a
witness because there is no way no one else saw
the incident. He was yelling out that one of the
flight attendants called him a which also never happened. People
will do anything for a free check, so it would
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appear that this is, you know, you know, innocent until
proven guilty. This is a bit of a case of
manufacturing some faults outrage in the hopes of.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Getting a payday.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
Let's see, there's some really fun takes on a Reddit
passenger slap by FA thread. This is also on a
Reddit Delta thread, so a lot of FA means flight attendant.
There's a lot of shorthands used by folks in that community,
and let's see slap what slap? I didn't see any slap.
Anyone else not see a slap, But if there was,
(49:50):
and there definitely wasn't because I didn't see anything, a
racist piece is exactly the type of person who would
rightfully earn such a thing. Initial reports said that the
individual who received the slap used some horrible racist language.
That very much appears to not be the case as well.
So there's a lot of misinformation swirling around this. But
my favorite bit here is I pray that Delta will
(50:15):
realize that the best way to improve the flying experience
for ninety percent of his customers is to permit FA slappings.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I would sign.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
I would sign away my right to sue Delta if
I could fly with a plane full of people who
knew that those fas arms toned from safety belt demonstrations
and hauling drinks carts up turbulent aisles where a hair
trigger away from slapping bad passengers.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Beautiful, great language to use the word turbulent. There are
absolutely couple right.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Out, very very very good, very very good. So the
jury is still out on what actually happened. Here another
comment here on that forum, they are calling for all
Delta employees to receive education and sensitivity training on Palestine
and the Palestinian people. Hope Delta rip him and his
lawyer a new one. Things like this is how you
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alienate people from a cause. Initially I said the same
thing that this next user said. I'm sure there is
more to the story. Doubt a gal making one hundred
k a year flight attendants, paid very well and benefits
just randomly slaps some random customer in the face. I
hope Delta backs her and if they can prove he
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was out of line or caused it, bans him for life.
And here's the fun part. And by fun. I mean,
I just the I guess symbolic gesture of what this
individual is asking for. In the lawsuit, the settlement request
of one day of Delta's earnings is moored to a
precedent whereby a defendant company, corporations total assets can be
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considered in the award of damages in a civil suit
cause of action to be determined by a jury for
purposes of punitive damages.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
But if the stories of.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Him being the at fault party or true, this clown
and his attorney need to be dragged over the.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Coals either way, not kinda happen.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Happen.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
You won't get a day of Delta's full time pay now.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
And then I saw a number associated with that, and
maybe Ben you know more about the Delta earnings than
I do, but it was you know, millions of dollars
of course, and Ben off Bank.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
We were chatting a little bit.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
You had you made a good point about where this
might end up going, whether the dude was in the
wrong or not.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
Ah, yeah, no, we you, Matt and I were talking
off air with that real quick. It feels like a
negotiation tactic which our legal beagles in the crowds night
are very familiar with. Right, you want ten dollars, you
asked for ten thousand, and then you just you just
make it easy to get out. I would pause it
(52:52):
without us knowing the full facts other than what you
have shared with us in your reporting, Noll, I would
pause it. There is some kind of quiet settlement on
the way one way or another, especially pulling in geopolitics
right and the arguments of discrimination based on ethnicity or
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nation or political identification. I also got to tell you
this reminds me. As soon as you brought this to us,
this reminded me of another thing that American airlines are getting.
Airlines based in the US are getting in trouble for
keep my flub there, dull it, because there is an
American airlines right. So, Delta and United Airlines are currently
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getting sued as of last week for charging people for
windows seats that do not indeed come with a window.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Finally happens all the time where you're in that in
between spot and you're looking at plastic.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah the time has come. Yeah, No good, they're charging
you extra to get those windows. All I'm saying with
that is in their grand calculus, if there's already you
know x amount of class action lawsuits going in and
they're getting terrible bad press for this incident, then it
might move the appoicus a little. I'm interested in hearing
(54:16):
you all's thoughts, like, do we think there might just
be a quiet settlement, a shut up and go away
thing at.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
Play, or is this a making an example thing?
Speaker 5 (54:24):
Or is the Palestine Israel conflict just too hot that
they don't even want to enter into the chat. They'd
rather just just make it go away, you know what
I mean? Yeah, And I'm certain if there is malfeasance
going on from on the part of the individual making
these accusations, that that's certainly played into it. To your point,
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bend setting the bar high with this a day of
earnings nonsense, knowing that a settlement might still yield them
one hundred grand or so. But to the point of
the folks chatting online and in some of these flight
attendant groups, I think they're hoping that they'd make an
example of this individual to show that this kind of
stuff won't stand.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Fas have to put up with so much stuff. You know,
people hand in you dirty diapers, literally spitting gum into
your hand. It's rough.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
Imagine. I can't imagine one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
And I think all three of us mind our p's
and ques, and we're on flights and like try to
be the absolute model passengers and if nothing if.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Not overly cooperative. Dude, you know the humans, why do
I ever?
Speaker 3 (55:31):
I absolutely kiss ass with flight attendants, even if you.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Get good information from them too. Ben, we were on
a flight together from the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
You were very cordial with our lovely flight attendant, and
you got some really good intel on some stuff to
see and insider scoop on places to go.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
It's it's a great resource.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
If you, you know, are are kind and uh and curious,
which you respect.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
Listenings, Oh, thank you? Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Never mind the extra pretzels.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, we'll get that angry message later. I can't
believe your entire conversation was based on extra pretzels. The
betrayal you sky bound Judas.
Speaker 5 (56:10):
But pro tip, though, they will usually give you two
bags if you ask nicely.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Sure, yeah, yeah, if you ask, If.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
You just say I want cookies and pretzels, they'll give
them to you.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
You do, exactly. It's all about yes.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
And we're we're from Atlanta, so we have already if
this were a role playing game or D and D,
we already have like a plus one or two on
folksy charisma because we are I think we all are
quite diplomatic when we speak to people, and I really
appreciate that. Like you can also, Matt, by the way,
just so you know, I'm sure you're aware. But when
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they when you order a drink like irregular beverage or whatever,
you can ask them for the whole cannesota. They'll give it.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Ye, yeah, please please?
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Can you ask him to put a little vodka in? No,
I don't know that, say like real cheeky like that,
but pull a little vodka in.
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Yeah, maybe you could do that bad smoke show.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
We should, we should. We've got to test this together. Uh,
maybe we can catch the same flight to our dis
embarkment point or our embarkment point for our upcoming live show.
Our Conspiracy Cruise are True Crime Cruise technically with Virgin
(57:36):
voyages October tenth through the fifteenth of this very year. Guys,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (57:41):
Think we've booked our flight sets in Miami, which I've
never been to, so we should definitely run this test together.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
I need you to put the Will Smith song on
your hot summer gold playlist.
Speaker 5 (57:53):
No, now, Will Smith is dead to all of us. What, bro,
have you followed his cringe like come back rap stuff
that's going on right now?
Speaker 3 (58:02):
I've heard it, But I don't follow celebrities.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
I know. Okay, you're so above it, Ben, I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
I'm just it's just not avery of interest.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
But you're into hip hop and you obviously are a
fan of Will Smith's previous.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Well, it's really bad.
Speaker 5 (58:14):
I just but Miami is an unequivocal bang.
Speaker 4 (58:18):
Are You're not wrong? There?
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (58:21):
I like Miami.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (58:23):
It's clearly his best song other than the Fresh Prints theme.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Pretty good Miami.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
You guys know Will is a big fan of this show.
He's listening right now. And sorry, man, yeah, little that
the newest rap just wasn't necessarily Do you guys.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
Remember the name of his album, Big Willie Style.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
Oh that's yeah, that did not age one Dylan unmuted
and then muted.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Right, I mean, Will aniums better than Big WILLI.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
Oh just makes me titter.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, it's he doesn't light the cigar, but he does
bite it. Again.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Think about how tame that album title is now though,
like just how tame that is?
Speaker 4 (59:09):
Now? For sure? But honestly, do you think he was
going for a penis reference? I don't think he was.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
I think it's an inverted penis reference. Again, it's hard
to say, y'all. Ye'll let us know. Do you think
big Willie style is an overt reference to having you know,
a large chunk? Is it the the early two thousands,
late nineties equivalent of big energy?
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah? Let us know BWS right before BD.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
Well, will Smith doesn't have to cuss in his wraps
to sell records, but we do.
Speaker 4 (59:44):
Yeah, so f him and FU two. No, Actually, we
love all of you. Someone wrap that one up, And
I'm sorry I promised.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
That one up.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
I'll wrap it up. Indeed, I promised a feel good story.
Speaker 5 (59:56):
We won't get too much into the details because we
we burned a lot of time talking to Delta, but
I think it was time well burnt. Japanese scientists have
developed a method for removing the chromosome associated with down syndrome,
which I think is fantastic. And I probably should have
led with that one because it sounds like I'm prioritizing
sky Drama over this. Absolutely life changing scientific development. Down
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syndrome is the most common chromosomal abnormality caused by the
presence of an extra copy of chromosome twenty one.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Try some me twenty one.
Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
This is also reading verbatim here from medtour dot com
reporting on this. This genetic disorder leads to physical characteristics
developmental delays, including congenital heart defects, hearing impairments, and learning
and speech difficulties. But researchers at my University in Japan
have made an important breakthrough. They have developed a gene
editing method using Crisper technology. The Cast nine Crisper system
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are any incredible genetic innovation to remove that extra chromosome.
The result so the study published in the journal PNAS
Nexus describe how the Crisper CAST nine system used to
modify DNA can remove the extra chromosome from affected cells.
Crisper uses enzymes to search for specific DNA sequences and
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once a match is found, is capable of removing entire
strands of genetic material. This is fantastic, you know, I mean,
this is absolute game changer. But then the question becomes
who gets it? Who gets access to this? Is it
very expensive? I don't have the answer to that. It
is not really part of the conversation yet. I don't
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think this is something that is available yet. It is
just the results of a study. In addition to laboratory
cell culture, scientists tested Crisper on skin fibroblasts taken from
people with Down syndrome. The method worked again, successfully removing
the extra chromosome in several cases. However, Crisper can also
affect healthy cells, so researchers emphasize the techechnology is still
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a long way from clinical application. The research teams currently
working on improving the technique so that editing only affects
cells with trismine. So seems like a promising development. But again,
with all this gene editing stuff, it does become a
question of who who gets it, who gets access to it?
Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I yield my time. What do y'all think?
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I completely agree with you. You nailed it, I think
because the issue here was in conversations with some folks
about this quite recently, the issue with all the phenomenal
technological progress occurring now at a breakdeck pace is that
we're not seeing the same social progress. The milieu in
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which these these breakthroughs exist itself is not evolving, right,
These are antiquated systems. So imagine, if you will, the
entire world was still a bunch of relatively inefficient monarchies
and those are the folks who discovered penicillin. How would
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that work out? You know what I mean. So there's
a very good argument that human civilization is going to
have to evolve in order to fully realize the importance
and the opportunity of technological innovations. Again, I yield my time.
Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
Well, no, casting it as a human right rather than
something for the elites, and immediately thinking about it from
a monetary, you know, commercial perspective, and that's just that's
just that's the system that we live in, and it sucks.
So when you're talking about evolution, we're talking about evolution
of the social norms and mora's of our American culture.
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This is not something that exists in that same form,
in that same structure in other parts of the world.
Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
And it is utterly.
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Yeah that's what without the utterly left part. That's that's
what I'm saying, you know, like being.
Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
I'm agreeing with the United States. Yeah, you're right on point.
What do you think that stuff?
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah? I got hit in the face with a story
that came out as we've been recording today about a
mass shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota at a Catholic school where
a bunch of kids were in church and a couple
of tiny little kids got killed by some young twenty
something that went on a shooting spree. And I'm just sorry.
I'm thinking about that as we're talking about this, and
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just thinking about.
Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
And how unremarkable stories like that are. We've talked about
this in the past as well. I think one time
where something similar happened and it didn't even hit our
radar for that day's strange news, because it is so
sadly unremarkable.
Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
In this country.
Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
And we're not soapboxing here at anybody. It's just the
reality of it.
Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
What's hitting me is just the fact that we live
in a world where this kind of thing had happened, right,
where a group of researchers can put a lot of
time and effort into helping so many people, and then
some other person in some other part of the world
can just pick up a gun and end the lives
of a bunch of people. And you know, just the
feeling of it happening simultaneously is a bit overwhelming to me.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
And we're going to talk about more of that in
our conversation on animal communication, which is publishing quite soon.
The idea that these technological breakthroughs are occurring in civilizations
and indeed in a natural environment that is increasingly imperiled.
Keep in mind, folks, that nothing occurs in a vacuum.
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There are systemic causes to these things that are often
often reported as unfortunate one off incidents. And so, as
Noel said, we're not going to soapbox here, but we
are well aware of these conversations that need to continue.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Nobel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. And guys, I gotta
tell you, if you've been reading the news, do you
feel some of it is strange?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Maybe he's just a handful of stories.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Okay, great, thank you, Thank you Matt, because hopefully all
our fellow conspirac realist agree. This is indeed our weekly
strange news program. If you are listening the evening it publishes,
we have some we have some weird news for you, folks.
Just here at the top, Dylan, if we could get
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like a bittersweet sound cue little satdur inspired at the end,
amazing perfect. Welcome to September one, folks, August twenty twenty
five is officially done. It's done, so heck yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It's also finally kind of fall weather.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I think we're in true perma fall and it's not
another fake out fall. It feels glorious outside today.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, it does feel glorious here at our fair metropolis
of Atlanta. You can have a great time walking around.
We encourage you to always do as people have said lately,
touch grass, get out there in nature, take height, wave
to a coyote if you're in Matt's neighborhood, that kind
of stuff. Unfortunately, we do have to start with a
(02:08):
little bit of a sad story and a big thank
you to everybody who reported from Burning Man. Guys, things
didn't work out at the orgy Dome.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
What could go wrong? I really don't know the answer, Guys,
this is due to me. What's going on with the
orgy Dome? First of all, what is it?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Well? I think it's probably self explanatory, but.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, it's not an ironic name, got it?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, Before you get into it and what it is,
I'm looking at an article from the Mirror Ben and
Noll and here's the title, burning Man. Orgy Dome requires
a lot of preparation involving wet wipes and gloves and
maybe some.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Lube and maybe they should have focused on the structure. Now, look,
we're an audio podcast currently, so in full disclosure, I
did have to use a must for some other things recently.
I do associate mustaches with sleazy guys from the seventies.
(03:07):
This is not a permanent thing, so please don't think
facial hair on our side is any way related to
the notorious orgy dome of Burning Man. As Matt said,
this does require some preparation. Can sense being key in
that preparation, and it's one of the most well known
(03:29):
attractions at burning Man For anybody who doesn't know. Burning
Man is the infamous flagship of things that are called
burns across various parts of the globe where people get together,
and originally they focused on community art, self expression, self reliance,
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rejection of capitalism, things of that nature. Burning Man, as
the big ticket item, is a week long desert event
out in the middle of nowhere in the Western United States,
and its name comes from this, I think the second
to last night of the week where they burn a
huge effigy Wickerman style, right that that's why they call
(04:16):
it Burning Man.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
How's that rejection of capitalism going? It seems like it's
a real hotspot for top dogs in the capitalist universe.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
If I'm mistaken, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Ar ketamine MICRODOSINGE tech Bros. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's a lot
of criticism of the main big tent Burning Man endeavor
because it is often seen as falling to the wayside
of its original mission. However, since the beginning of Burning
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Man as a concept, they've been very into something they
call the orgy Dome, which is just what it says
on the Ten Folks Burning Man. Due to its location
since nineteen ninety, it's been in a place called black
Rock City in northwestern Nevada. A lot of people who
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are familiar with other semi off the grid things like
Rainbow gatherings are already going to know about Burning Man
and regional burns. The orgy Dome encountered disaster just this
August because it was destroyed by high winds right as
the Big Orgy Dome event began.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh, man an entire Can you imagine thousands of people
with blue balls? That's just the worst. I've got a
quote here from the Mirror that same article. This is
from a first time visitor who talked to Cosmopolitan who
was surprised by how long the line was to get
in the orgy Dome. And this is I guess before
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thing happened.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Before the winds really got him.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, before the winds on the interior
of the dome begin to kick up. You know what
I mean, because of all the activity. Here's the quote.
It's like the DMV. You get a number, then you
talk to one guy and take a test on the rules.
Then you wait some more and then she said the
best part about it is the air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, and that originally was not the case. That was
not always the case. If we go to the orgy
domes official social media, which is on Instagram named in
a burst of Creativity orgy Dome All one word, we
see the following statement from two days ago, as we
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record on August twenty seven, twenty five quote, our build
team worked so hard this past week to erect our
lovely space. Unfortunately, the winds yesterday and did all that
labor and wrecked our structure. We are still here and
thankfully safe. We hope to gift the PLAIA some workshops
(07:03):
and we'll keep you updated. So the more conservative conspiracy
theory here is that God finally had enough.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, yeah, did you know one of the.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Let's not bring God into this.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, well, everybody's welcome at the Dome. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The president on the Board of Directors of the Orgy
Dome is named Tom aka Baby.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Jesus nominative determinism.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Perhaps what's his last name is out of curiosity so
we can say the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Nobody knows. Tom's going to Bernie Mansons twenty thirteen, joined
the camp in twenty eighteen and he's currently the lead
of Communications committee there.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Tom Baby Jesus McGillicuddy. We're just going to use our imagination,
why not?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And so with that we're let's give you a again.
We love a primary source, So let's give you some
statements from the comments for our friends at Orgy Dome.
Quote that's Jesus Christ saving people from STDs. Upwards of
five thousand likes. H imagine slighting a metal frame together
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with the tarp and calling it hard work. Favorite one
favorite one. I guess the wind came first. Don't worry,
it happens.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Dut real quick. Is this an official orgy Dome or
is it just okay? Interesting? Because I guess that's it's
not illegal to have orgies?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Is people are consenting. No, not yet.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's so funny.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I guess I'm just sort of like puritanical washed by
just living in this very you know, kind of prudish society.
That that just seems remarkably weird to me, that that is,
you know, just advertised.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But why if it's going.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
To be advertised somewhere, why not burning Man? And you know,
speaking of God intervening, what if the wouldn't burning Man
and all of this be sort of a Sodom and
Gomorah type situation potentially for God to smite all of
these desert dwelling centers. In one fell swoop, you also
take out some of the top CEOs the planet as well.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
In thought, stuff to think about, and speaking of weird,
we have so much more stuff to get to. We
gotta talk about the Gallain Maxwell update and all the
fallout there. There's some exciting science coming out of Japan.
Not to sound like a broken window there, there are
(09:29):
some of course, aviation shenanigans. There's a cartel we wanted
to mention, there's some widespread surveillance and what about this, guys,
Can we take a break for a word from our
sponsors and then talk about the latest failed coup attempt.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, that's how my all means.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And we have returned breaking news and unfortun breaking news
just published today as we were recording the early morning
ET time, the Danish foreign minister has summoned the top
US diplomat in Copenhagen to get some answers. You see, guys,
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it turns out that American nationals linked to the current
presidential administration have attempted to pull something our Russian friends
and our company friends have done time and time again
in the past. These guys wanted to infiltrate Greenland and
they wanted to run covert influencing operations there, with the
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goal being for the United States to take possession of
Greenland as either a territory or a fifty first state. Now,
before we continue, can we recap real quick, like where
this story came from and how Greenland became this bauble
or holy grail.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I just remember the President floating this idea of doing
this thing, and it was met with skepticism maybe to
say the least, and irritation perhaps What.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Was the deal? Why?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, I don't know why, Like it's such an odd
thing to flex with, you know, white Greenland.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, the issue there is that the current US president
has repeatedly sort of floated the idea of the US
taking possession of Greenland for well, they'll save security for
the US. But really it's because this is a resource
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rich territory. Everybody, check out our earlier episode, oh gosh,
years back, guys on the race to control the Arctic.
Remember that as the ice coverage was disintegrating, continues to
do so.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
The Arctic also being a hotspot no pun intended for science,
and there's a lot of you know, mutually agreed upon
kind of little science fiefdoms there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Absolutely, absolutely, and even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
this was already an issue of great concern to the boffins.
And if you look at the maps, it's similar to
the East Asian sphere. When you ask each country how
much water or how much ocean territory they control, you
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get very different answers. When you ask all the countries
limiting the rim of the Arctic as a region, you
will get widely different answers on what portion of that
they think they control. And they're looking for rare earth minerals,
they're looking for fossil fuels, of course, eternally. They're also
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looking low key for some new biological organisms. To your
point about science wild stuff, And to be completely honest
and fair, the current presidential administration has not ordered some
invasion of Greenland, has not declared that there will be
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a war of any sort or what did our buddy
Vlad call it? A special military operation?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
So special and also like biological organisms in the arctor
we're talking about like the thing type scenario like this
is very interesting to me. Sorry, maybe a topic for
another day, but such a special military operation.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I'm with you, I hope, so, I hope we find
something interesting. But the issue here is that Greenland is
semi autonomous, but if you ask the United Nations, Greenland
is under Denmark and Denmark is not happy about this.
So our buddy Lars lok Rosmussen, the foreign minister we
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mentioned earlier, he said, look, we're aware of what we
call foreign interest in Greenland, and we are not surprised
that there were influence attempts from our buddies across the
pond at this. This is very bad for the US
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because coups and disinfo campaigns happen all the time. It's
just embarrassing to get caught doing that.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
You know, I was wondering, like, what does Greenland make?
What are their exports? And as you could maybe imagine,
ninety percent of its export are fishing. Fishing exports shrimp
and halibit, and apparently their economy currently relies heavily on
Danish subsidies.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, perhaps I was not aware.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Of because it is property of the Kingdom of Denmark.
I suppose in large part which den is a NATO
ally or a NATO member, which means it would be Yeah,
it would be such an issue, like such a crazy
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thing to try and do. I always imagined all the
all the public statements by whatever administration, no matter what
country they're from, talking about taking over Denmark, whether it's
the United States or Russia, is just bluster or I
don't know. It doesn't seem like it would make any
sense to actually take action there.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It says, God, flex it's just weird.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, here's how we do it, here's how we do it.
We might lose a couple of stories just to discuss
this and get this in the public. I do think
it's important. The way you do it is you don't
have a bunch of tanks and air support roll in.
But you do instead is send in some folks to
clock and identify thought creators, thought leaders, as America would say.
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And that's what was allegedly happening here. This has not
gone to a court case.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So an information war to win hearts and minds.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Hearts and minds. That's why we use this phrase so
often that I'm using it now. So there is, as
we know, at least three people, possibly US nationals, were
being very careful about this who came to Greenland, and
(16:29):
at least one of them did the textbook company Stuff
compiled a list of US friendly Greenlanders and then compiled
a dark list, a bad list of people who were
opposed to the current US administration, and then looked for
ways to further propagandize Denmark as mismanaging the affairs of Greenland,
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which is a very big deal because Greenland, in the
nature of their relationship with Denmark, Greenland is autonomous for
its internal affairs. Denmark's agreement is that if anybody in
the wide world bugs you, our buddies, the Danes are
going to run interference. Our buddies, the Danes are in
(17:16):
charge of foreign affairs, right. Stuff that happens elsewhere that
might affect Greenland.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And also we'll take a nice deal on all that
halibit if you don't mind, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's that old joke? Someone does something crazy,
They murder everybody at a seafood counter and they say,
why do you do it? Why did you do that?
And they say, for the halibitt?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Whoa new low?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
So this is and luckily it's not our low. That's
a very old joke. Be careful with it. It's an antique.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I actually made that joke the other day because there's
caliban on the menu at a restaurant and I said,
let's get it, just for the halibit, just for the yell.
I get the smell of it. Here's the hot rod. Sorry,
I'm doing a little shoop dop dop. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So we don't know how this is going to unfold. Unfortunately,
at this point, there is so much going on in
the world today that it is quite possible this will
miss the news, or this will be, you know, a
flash in the pan of Arctic escalations. We do understand,
(18:31):
of course, this occurs in step with a long history
of other attempted and failed coups tied to in particular
the Russian, the French, and the American governments. We previously
discussed briefly a while back some failed coup attempts on
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the behalf of American nationals in Venezuela, for instance.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Well, and shout out to the podcast you wrote, Ben,
let's start a coup if you want to learn more
about how that's done.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh jeez, thank you so much. Noel with our pal
Alex French, good friend of the show, and our good
friends at Schooling Humans also shout out to you. Just
set this off, Mike Robert Evans, who helms the wonderful
podcast Behind the Bastards. It could happen here a ton
of other things. They have a new show out that
(19:22):
I love called Weird Little Guys.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, there may well be
a little crossover with the Weird Little Guys coming down
the pike one of these days.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That would be fun.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yes, Hope Springs Eternal. We want to end on for
this part. We want to end on some good news.
Do you guys want history good news or science good news?
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I got some science good news coming in my segment,
so maybe history good news.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Short then gosh, what Is there a.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Dealersh choice bend, whichever one you're most passionate about.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sure, is there a specific group bad guy eyes that
might be coming up again?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You know what's funny that applies to both stories?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Is it? The foot Clan are seeing the rise of
the foot.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
The rise of the foot. We trusted foot Locker all along,
and they were the fifth foot.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Column, the foot front.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Let's do this. It's about a group of people who
up till recently were historically regarded as very bad with reason.
So we were talking on ridiculous history not too too
long ago, about the idea of Indiana Jones right, the
(20:41):
idea that certain things belong in a museum. And as
every fan of post World War II historical fiction is
well aware, the National Socialist Party of Germany aka the
Nazis did a lot of bad stuff. As our pal
Norm MacDonald used to say, the more I learned about
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this Hitler guy, the less I like him.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Not a good dude, not no, not.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I wanted to do a joke, but no, he's just
a beat me or pieces. You don't even have to
beat me on that one. So we know that ever
since the atrocities committed by the Nazi Party in Germany
along with the assistance of the Axis powers. There have
been untold treasures stolen, secreted away. Right, some may still
(21:33):
be hidden in parts of Eastern Europe. We did a
little bit of research on that some may still be
in the hands of private collectors or indeed secreted away
in certain Swiss banking institutions, or hidden through the rat
lines in parts of South America. Looking at you, Argentina
(21:53):
and Chile. The good news is that eighty years ago
the Party, in the commission of genocide, they looted a
bunch of paintings and a bunch of priceless artwork, sculptures, frescoes,
again paintings. In particular, there was a Jewish art dealer
(22:16):
in Amsterdam and the Nazi stole a bunch of stuff
from this guy. He had again committed no crime except
for his identity. We fast forward right, World War II
was so long ago for the humans. There is a
real estate agent who has selled a house in Argentina,
(22:40):
and in the advertisement for this house this person is selling,
you can see portrait of a lady by Giuseppe Gizlanti,
which is hanging above a sofa inside a really nice
house near Buenos Aires that was once owned by a
senior Nazi official who made it to South America after
(23:02):
the Second World War. People have been looking at for
this forever. It is on a database of lost wartime
art and when this Nazi official's daughter put the house
up for sale, a couple of people who still had
their eyes on this stolen art said, hang on, this
(23:24):
is a conspiracy afoot. This is what happened. We're reporting
this with great thanks to Tom MacArthur from BBC News.
This came out just yesterday as we're recording. It's an
issue because whatever Argentinian government's post World War two activities were,
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they did eventually become a signatory to an international agreement
to help trace these stolen treasures and this stolen artwork.
There's a second piece that was discovered on the sister
of the former owners social media. But before we get
to that, guys, what do you think should happen?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah? Where should it? Who should it be returned to?
Is that the question? Like? What? What museum?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Perhaps, or what like what's what country? Is it about
the country of origin?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Perhaps? Yeah, I don't know, I'm not I don't have
enough information anything.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Certainly be in a museum and not in somebody's house
for sale. No doubt that.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
What's that indie line that you love to do?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
It belongs in a museum, damn right right, and thank
you for the alley oop there man.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
This is this is a thing that is is tricky
to your point, Noel, because it was created by one
of what we would call the old masters shout out
to W. H. Auden. But it also was stolen yeah,
in the the Commission of genocide, to be clear, trying
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to delete from the books of history and entire people.
You can't you can't imagine everybody just shrugging and saying, okay,
we'll let this conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Go, right, let's send it back to Germany and make
them give it back to somebody else. Oh wow, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
No, don't be sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
There's some poetry to it. We also have some descriptions
from weirdly enough, this is talking to some Dutch news programs.
We have descriptions and interviews with some of the family members. Now,
of course, these kids could not choose their parents anymore
than anybody else. But one of the sisters involved said, quote,
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I don't know what information you want from me, And
I don't know what painting you're talking about? How many
paintings are there right there?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And I'm sorry, man, I hope I didn't miss this detail.
This is this is an individual speaking about this, like
how this thing ended up in their collection.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
This is more a very well to do family saying
that they don't know what painting.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How can we possibly keep?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Okay, oh oh, a legendary Italian painting of a contessa.
You're going to have to be a little more specific.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, you're referring to my Caravaggio or no, exactly portrait
of a lady that that's obviously a title that gets
thrown around in other works, right, I mean I feel
like there's like works of period fiction that carry that name.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Maybe I'm the portrait of a lady on fire. That's
the thing. Interesting.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
When you said that, I immediately was like, well, surely
that's like a well known painting that exists in a
museum already. But that is a pretty basic name, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It is a portrait of a lady.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Now I want to help you, but could you tell
me again which faberge Egg in particular you.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Know, the one, the one that's shaped like a carriage
that has a hidden Matrushka egg inside.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Again, if you could just be a little more specific
and scope in, I'll try to get the help to
look through the vault. That's where we're kind of at
with this. We've got a lot more to get to.
The story that we didn't cover is exciting science. The
world's first behavior transplant between species has been achieved. Maybe
(27:39):
we get to that next week. For time here, we're
going to pause for a word from our sponsors and
we'll return with more of our weekly Strange News segment.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And we've returned. We are jumping to July thirtieth for
this story own way back. A lot has happened. Mm hmm, yeah,
very correct. Yes, we're gonna talk about International Paper Incorporated
and a bunch of other companies. Oh, let's let's talk
(28:16):
about that Packaging Corporation of America, International Paper Company, SMURFET,
West Rock, KAPA, North America, West Rock CP, Georgia Pacific
Cascades Incorporated, Cascades USA, and the holding US BRAT Industries,
Graphic Packaging International and Grief or GRIEFE g R e
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I F Incorporated. These are a bunch of companies. What
they do is they manufacture stuff like paper pulp.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I'm so sorry, Matt, I was unmute. I just have
to say, grief incorporated?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Is that real?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's probably like grief for different.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Sounds like it'd be like a funeral home cartel or something.
I'm sorry, it just destruck me as odd. Please carry on.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
All I know is they're incorporated and they create paper
pulp and other things that are and they also manufacture
things like corrugated cardboard and very specific packaging all kinds.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The other day, yeah, last week, cardboard.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I just brought it up as in like, hey, there's
the thing going on. Well, we're going to talk about
it because this kind of sucks and it's way bigger
than even this class action lawsuit that's being filed, and
we're going to talk about is. Let's jump to the
stories comes to us from Reuters via Mike Scirella Scarea
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maybe again. On July thirtieth, twenty twenty five, International Paper
and other cardboard makers hit with US price fixing class
action lawsuit. So all of those people, all those companies
and corporations that I just named, including International Paper, they
have been accused in this new lawsuit of conspiring to
fix prices and inflate prices for key raw materials like
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that paper pulp they're used to make cardboard boxes and
merchandise displays. This is a crazy deal because it's not
like they raised them a little bit and and it
just the prices are just going on because of inflation, guys. No, no, no, no, no,
no no no. Specifically, the lawsuit is saying that these
organizations collectively raised prices by thirty percent overall since late
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twenty twenty because.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
They were they were they're a limited group of suppliers.
Just so we know, merchandise displays that we're talking about
are something you're going to see every day anytime you
go to a physical art store, right, Yeah, a grocery store.
It's the stuff on what we call the end cap
where there's like a there's a sturdy card we're box holding,
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you know, the stuff that is that is branded.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
You know sometimes the spokesperson right and give the thumbs.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Abisco, the brawny towel man, stuff of that nature.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, and it's everything from pizza boxes. So imagine how
many pizza boxes you've seen in your life.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Is the thing that makes it corrugated, the little wiggies
on the inside.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, layers, Yeah, okay, c COO.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Cool moving boxes. If you ever went to U haul
before or the home depot or any of those places
that got boxes, banker boxes and again, packaging boxes, shipping boxes,
all the boxes. So in your mind you may think, well,
see twenty twenty, that's around the time pandemic was really
(31:40):
in swing. It makes sense because there's so many more
boxes in our lives now than there were before that.
That's when the Amazon craze thing really began. That's when
every company out there that offers goods is giving you
that whole We'll ship it right to your house like tomorrow,
maybe even we'll get it to you as fast as
we possibly can. Please buy from us by our stuff,
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don't go to Amazon, which is because Amazon is dominating
everything so hard. It makes sense that prices would go
up at least a little bit because demand for all
of this cardboard, in all of these paper products skyrocketed
at that time, and that would make sense, But thirty
percent for paper pulp products, it's very it seems like
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way too much. So if you jump down to the lawsuit,
you can check this out, by the way, you can
look it up. The plaintiff in this lawsuit, by the way,
or this proposal for a class action lawsuit is are
TWUSO Pastry Foods Corporation that is aart USO pastry Foods Corporation.
And I don't know how this group and their attorneys
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figured out that all of these groups somehow uniformly increased
their prices, you know, by ticks, at the same exact
time over all of these times. Because it says the
manufacturers violated US anti trust law through quote numerous unprecedented
and unjustified price increases, often implemented at the exact same time,
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and for the exact same price increase.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's the coordination that got them.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well yeah, because now nobody can be the person or
the corporation you go to to get slightly cheaper versions
of that thing. It means competition or the thing that's
supposed to drive competition gets eliminated. And now you just
choose somebody and it's and if there are enough of
these groups working together, you can have let's say, a
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company like Georgia Pacific that is going to manufacture a
whole bunch of products like this. But they're going to
focus on certain regions, let's say of the world or
of the United States, and then another big corporation could,
let's say, focus in another area, and everybody gets their
slice of the pie because guys were in this cardboard
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pie together, this pizza pie, this box filled with US currency.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Corrugated corruption and conspiracy. You'll love to see it because
also at such a word loophole, here's what plausibly happens.
Our pastry company gets this crazy price rise, right, and
they know there's a free market. So they go to
this other company and lo and behold the same thing
as occurred. So they go to this third company and
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cheepers low and behold part two electric Googloo. And now
they're starting to put the pieces together. It is interesting
that it took a corporation to do this because plausibly,
here's the insidious, very clever ethics aside part. The average
individual consumer would not have clocked this.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
No, no, but we'd all noticed that prices for everything
would be increasing pretty extensively and seem to outpace every
other variable that would increase prices. And so you're like, WHOA,
why is everything so expensive?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
When I go to the grocery store. Well, guess what,
you know what you're all the products in the center aisles.
You know, it's in what those are inside cardboard materials.
Not necessarily these exact cardboard, container board, liner board and
all that stuff, but very similar products. And if this
is happening, where this lawsuit is drilling down into these
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specific paper products, you can only imagine that it's happening
across the board in other ways. The cardboard.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Uh, that was worth it, my gosh, Yes.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But you know, I think you're absolutely right. But because
nobody would be talking about that unless I don't know,
unless somebody, you know, like a General Mills or some
huge brand would say, well, we got to increase prices
a little bit because our packaging prices have just gone crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So yeah, I got to tell you. And personal anecdotes.
I don't know how helpful they are to the show,
but I got to tell you, Matt, this one is
really speaking to me. Because not to brag or high
road anyone, but earlier this morning I went and bought
some toilet paper. That's what it's like at the top.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I do.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I am a fan of bidets. Shout out to NOL. However,
getting that toilet paper. I was astounded by the price
increases when I had only been on the road for
maybe two and a half weeks or so, right, and
that measurably ticked up. And I think we're just all
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as consumers, as again, individual consumers, we're not really clocking
the baked in cost. We're clocking the retail price going up.
So to your point, it's devilishly easy to not be
aware of how those production cost are getting folded in
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because the cardboard cartels are not charging you, they're charging
the companies that are then passing that cost onto you,
just like i'll say it tariffs. So I'm thinking of
cereal boxes. Right. When's the last time anybody bought a
box of cereal in a reusable glass container? If you
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have right in because I don't know if that exists.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah. I was so excited back in the day when
they introduced the concept of just these plastic giant bags
of cereal instead of the little boxes. But then I
thought about all the oil involved in you know what,
I never considered glass bottles, glass containers of cereal. That
feels like something a wealthy person does, kind of like
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with a container of whiskey or something.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
But I mean, I don't know about you, guys, but
that's like the main reason I Buypasta sauce is because
you get a free glass at the end.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh yeah, only drink out of ball products everybody and
or reused.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
That's that cannot be our parable, Matt.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I only drink out of commemorative McDonald's glasses from the
night that the ones with really high cadmium content.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
You know, the catmium just makes it, Pope, give it
a little extra.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Mommy, I'm not kidding you guys want to say it's
it's mostly Mason jars here in this house and old
pint glasses from when I was in my twenties and
I went to a bunch of different like beer fests
around Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I love it. I love the commemorative stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, put stacks of them fast man.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
So that's a great note, by the way, a peak
behind the curtain. Folks. No matter what you think about
the the four of us or the five of us
you listening along at home, please remember it's great to
save money. Odds. Oh, it's some nice reusable glassware. Like
I don't think any of us are above it unless
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Dylan sends us an angry message in the chat.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Huh No, I don't know that Dylan's ever sent an
angry message to anyone in his life.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, besides the cardboard folks. He's doing that right now.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
That's an off air revelation into our super producer's personality. Matt,
do we know, like this lawsuit is in play right now?
There have been no conclusions or where are we at?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh? No conclusions? Yeah, this is basically that's funny if
you actually read the document here looking currently at the
Sherman anti trust law from eighteen ninety, which is what
this lawsuit is based on, anti trust practices. Here, where
is it? Here we go? What was filed was a
class action complaint demand for jury trial. Okay, so right
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now it's just like, hey, this is going to be
a thing. We want a class action lawsuit. And they're
saying that there are potentially hundreds of thousands of other
corporations companies just like Artiso Pastry Foods Corporation. It says
them individually and on behalf of all others similarly situated.
So anybody that sells pizza and uses those boxes has
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to buy those as part of their cost of doing business.
And anybody that has end caps, anybody that does any
kind of I guess cardboard packaging, whatsoever, probably haul you
haul is going to get in there. They're a real upset.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Oh my gosh, can you wait till the FedEx folks
get in on this. They're going to go nuts. As
you mentioned Amazon, The issue here, I think that gives
us a lot of sand on the lawsuit is that
past a certain threshold of business in the US, and
indeed and broad there is no way to find different
companies for this.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Correct, Yeah, at least to my knowledge. I'm going to
read a little bit more from this Reuter's article and
then we'll jump out of the story goes. It says
price increases in the corrugated box market quote drastically outpaced
what the lawsuit described as a modest rise in demand
over the period covered by the complaint, and as demand
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fell in recent years, the price increases continued, which is
one of the big things here. It's not costing more
and more and more and more and more to produce
paper pulp, would be the argument, then, why and how
could all of these different companies all be increasing their
prices in the same way at the same time by
the same amount. That doesn't seem to match up with
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any other variables. You can learn a ton more if
you look it up. It's pretty simple. Maybe the best
thing to search would be cardboard price fixing. Probably that's
the best thing. You can see a lot about it, guys.
There's one other story that we're not gonna fully talk
about here, but you should definitely look it up. There's
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this company called Flock Safety that we have talked about
before on this show. This is a company that specifically
has cameras that are all over the place around four
thousand communities across the United States. These cameras are mounted
up everywhere and they are doing pretty specific thing. They're
(42:23):
looking at license plates. They read, scan, check out license plates,
and see where everybody goes. Well for a minute there
they were working with the Department of Homeland Security and
the Customs and Border Protection Crew there, I guess, and
they have decided to stop doing that out of fears
(42:45):
of what information they're actually providing. Department of Homeland Security
and these other groups like ICE. They're worried about a
lot of things. But there's a specific thing that you
can look up right now that they're worried about where
a sheriff was looking for specific woman and that woman
was suspected of I guess or wanted because she had
(43:06):
an abortion in an area where there are now state
laws against that, and flock Safety realized, oh crap, These
law enforcement officers can use this technology for anything they want,
and not just the stuff that we are attempting to,
you know, sell our product and services.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
For, including personal stocking.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
By the way, yes, but that's actually kind of good
news because flock Safety at least appears to be acknowledging
that that's a problem in stopping some of the behaviors
that we're putting, you know, people at risk. So yay,
look it up. You can find it on AP News
in a bunch of other places. Again, flock Safety, flock Safety.
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All right, we'll be right back with more strange news.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
And we have returned with the story of drama in
the friendly skies, or in this case, maybe the not
so friendly skies, and then we're gonna follow that up
and wrap with a very positive medical story out of Japan.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I bring up this Delta Airline.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Story because we are, of course here in Atlanta and
we all love flying those friendly skies, but they are
not immune to situations. As Ben might put it, a
male Delta passenger is suing the airline, claiming that he
was open handed slap by a flight attendant on a
Delta flight.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Georgia.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Dad is suing Delta Airlines after he claims a flight
attendant slapped him in the face during an altercation provoked
by a simple request for his family to be served water,
a move his lawyer claims was pure prejudice.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
This is from the New York Post, which we don't
always love, but it.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Seems to be a relatively matter of fact report of
this incident, at least as in terms of the allegations
from this individual named Mohammed shib Lee Shabilee, Yeah, I
think that's right, who along with his wife and four
year old son and two year old son, were on
a Delta flight from Atlanta to Fresno, California, on July
twenty ninth, when his youngest requested water.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
And as the New York Post puts, it was.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Crying for water, he and his legal team said during
a news conference on Tuesday. When the plane took off
and flight attendants made their rounds offering refreshments to passengers,
the accused attendant allegedly refused to serve Shibili's wife.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
He told reporters, I'm just going to read the rest
of this because it's short.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Shabili vin got up and went to the back area
of the plane to request water, but the same flight
attendant allegedly refused, again, using a very disrespectful tone with him.
He said he did successfully get water from another attendant,
who apologized for their coworker. Despite the apologies, the situation escalated,
and ultimately, after a back and forth with the Q
(46:00):
flight attendant, Shibili claims that she slapped him after she
whispered a vulgar word into his ear, prompting him to
stand up and launch into some choice words of his own.
And then that's when he accuses her of snapping and
hitting him in the face open palm as hard as
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she could.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
There is a somewhat of a twist here.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Again, this is just allegedly, but the lawyer went on
to cite an alleged incident of discrimination by the airline
against Palestinians. When last July, an ex user posted two
photos of Delta flight attendants wearing Palestinian flag pins, which
were incorrectly described as Hamas Badger's during the flights.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yikes, not cool.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
Prompting a response from the airline, And I mean not
cool in terms of that's obviously incredibly reductive and insulting
to refer to them as that. So there is an
implication here, because of Shebili's national or perceived nationality, that
this represented a pattern of discrimination. At least that's what
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the lawyers are saying.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Do we go to the specific pejorative.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
No, we don't, Okay, we do not, just that it
was nasty as it was reported here. The lawyer posed
the question is this a single, isolated incident or is
it one a platform of clear discrimination against Palestinians to
a history of physical violence from Delta employees and three
negligent hiring. And this is coming from the lawyer Ali Awad,
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who claimed the incident was triggered by Shoulbili's wife's shirt,
which had the word Palestine on it.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
So I'm going to look confused about the sighting of.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
You know, like wearing of Palestinian flags by flight attendants
as being a negative here. It would seem that that
would represent support of Palestinians. So it's a little convoluted
in the way this is being reported, But I do
want to say that I have an inside scoop on
this story. Someone that I've been hanging out with is
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a flight attendant for Delta and is the one that
hit me to the story in the first place, and
sent me some chatter from some kind of Delta centric
flight attendants forums, which I know that you're aware of,
Ben as well as I know you have relationships with
folks who have worked for that organization as well, and
there's a lot of groups on the Internet communities for
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folks that are employed by Delta and I'm sure other airlines.
So and initially she sent me a report just kind
of giving the rundown of the press release and the
statement from the lawyer, but then sent me a really
interesting screenshot of a thread on another forum. Was on
that flight with my wife in fifteen month old daughter.
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Flight attendant never slapped him. He in fact pushed one
of the flight attendants. Next, we've got another comment from
somebody who was on board. I was waiting on a
witness because there is no way no one else saw
the incident. He was yelling out that one of the
flight attendants called him a which also never happened. People
will do anything for a free check, so it would
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appear that this is, you know, you know, innocent until
proven guilty. This is a bit of a case of
manufacturing some faults outrage in the hopes of.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Getting a payday.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
Let's see, there's some really fun takes on a Reddit
passenger slap by FA thread. This is also on a
Reddit Delta thread, so a lot of FA means flight attendant.
There's a lot of shorthands used by folks in that community,
and let's see slap what slap? I didn't see any slap.
Anyone else not see a slap, But if there was,
(49:50):
and there definitely wasn't because I didn't see anything, a
racist piece is exactly the type of person who would
rightfully earn such a thing. Initial reports said that the
individual who received the slap used some horrible racist language.
That very much appears to not be the case as well.
So there's a lot of misinformation swirling around this. But
my favorite bit here is I pray that Delta will
(50:15):
realize that the best way to improve the flying experience
for ninety percent of his customers is to permit FA slappings.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I would sign.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
I would sign away my right to sue Delta if
I could fly with a plane full of people who
knew that those fas arms toned from safety belt demonstrations
and hauling drinks carts up turbulent aisles where a hair
trigger away from slapping bad passengers.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Beautiful, great language to use the word turbulent. There are
absolutely couple right.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Out, very very very good, very very good. So the
jury is still out on what actually happened. Here another
comment here on that forum, they are calling for all
Delta employees to receive education and sensitivity training on Palestine
and the Palestinian people. Hope Delta rip him and his
lawyer a new one. Things like this is how you
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alienate people from a cause. Initially I said the same
thing that this next user said. I'm sure there is
more to the story. Doubt a gal making one hundred
k a year flight attendants, paid very well and benefits
just randomly slaps some random customer in the face. I
hope Delta backs her and if they can prove he
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was out of line or caused it, bans him for life.
And here's the fun part. And by fun. I mean,
I just the I guess symbolic gesture of what this
individual is asking for. In the lawsuit, the settlement request
of one day of Delta's earnings is moored to a
precedent whereby a defendant company, corporations total assets can be
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considered in the award of damages in a civil suit
cause of action to be determined by a jury for
purposes of punitive damages.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
But if the stories of.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Him being the at fault party or true, this clown
and his attorney need to be dragged over the.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Coals either way, not kinda happen.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Happen.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
You won't get a day of Delta's full time pay now.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
And then I saw a number associated with that, and
maybe Ben you know more about the Delta earnings than
I do, but it was you know, millions of dollars
of course, and Ben off Bank.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
We were chatting a little bit.
Speaker 5 (52:25):
You had you made a good point about where this
might end up going, whether the dude was in the
wrong or not.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
Ah, yeah, no, we you, Matt and I were talking
off air with that real quick. It feels like a
negotiation tactic which our legal beagles in the crowds night
are very familiar with. Right, you want ten dollars, you
asked for ten thousand, and then you just you just
make it easy to get out. I would pause it
(52:52):
without us knowing the full facts other than what you
have shared with us in your reporting, Noll, I would
pause it. There is some kind of quiet settlement on
the way one way or another, especially pulling in geopolitics
right and the arguments of discrimination based on ethnicity or
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nation or political identification. I also got to tell you
this reminds me. As soon as you brought this to us,
this reminded me of another thing that American airlines are getting.
Airlines based in the US are getting in trouble for
keep my flub there, dull it, because there is an
American airlines right. So, Delta and United Airlines are currently
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getting sued as of last week for charging people for
windows seats that do not indeed come with a window.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Finally happens all the time where you're in that in
between spot and you're looking at plastic.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah the time has come. Yeah, No good, they're charging
you extra to get those windows. All I'm saying with
that is in their grand calculus, if there's already you
know x amount of class action lawsuits going in and
they're getting terrible bad press for this incident, then it
might move the appoicus a little. I'm interested in hearing
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you all's thoughts, like, do we think there might just
be a quiet settlement, a shut up and go away
thing at.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
Play, or is this a making an example thing?
Speaker 5 (54:24):
Or is the Palestine Israel conflict just too hot that
they don't even want to enter into the chat. They'd
rather just just make it go away, you know what
I mean? Yeah, And I'm certain if there is malfeasance
going on from on the part of the individual making
these accusations, that that's certainly played into it. To your point,
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bend setting the bar high with this a day of
earnings nonsense, knowing that a settlement might still yield them
one hundred grand or so. But to the point of
the folks chatting online and in some of these flight
attendant groups, I think they're hoping that they'd make an
example of this individual to show that this kind of
stuff won't stand.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Fas have to put up with so much stuff. You know,
people hand in you dirty diapers, literally spitting gum into
your hand. It's rough.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
Imagine. I can't imagine one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
And I think all three of us mind our p's
and ques, and we're on flights and like try to
be the absolute model passengers and if nothing if.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Not overly cooperative. Dude, you know the humans, why do
I ever?
Speaker 3 (55:31):
I absolutely kiss ass with flight attendants, even if you.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Get good information from them too. Ben, we were on
a flight together from the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
You were very cordial with our lovely flight attendant, and
you got some really good intel on some stuff to
see and insider scoop on places to go.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
It's it's a great resource.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
If you, you know, are are kind and uh and curious,
which you respect.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
Listenings, Oh, thank you? Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Never mind the extra pretzels.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, we'll get that angry message later. I can't
believe your entire conversation was based on extra pretzels. The
betrayal you sky bound Judas.
Speaker 5 (56:10):
But pro tip, though, they will usually give you two
bags if you ask nicely.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Sure, yeah, yeah, if you ask, If.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
You just say I want cookies and pretzels, they'll give
them to you.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
You do, exactly. It's all about yes.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
And we're we're from Atlanta, so we have already if
this were a role playing game or D and D,
we already have like a plus one or two on
folksy charisma because we are I think we all are
quite diplomatic when we speak to people, and I really
appreciate that. Like you can also, Matt, by the way,
just so you know, I'm sure you're aware. But when
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they when you order a drink like irregular beverage or whatever,
you can ask them for the whole cannesota. They'll give it.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Ye, yeah, please please?
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Can you ask him to put a little vodka in? No,
I don't know that, say like real cheeky like that,
but pull a little vodka in.
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Yeah, maybe you could do that bad smoke show.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
We should, we should. We've got to test this together. Uh,
maybe we can catch the same flight to our dis
embarkment point or our embarkment point for our upcoming live show.
Our Conspiracy Cruise are True Crime Cruise technically with Virgin
(57:36):
voyages October tenth through the fifteenth of this very year. Guys,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (57:41):
Think we've booked our flight sets in Miami, which I've
never been to, so we should definitely run this test together.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
I need you to put the Will Smith song on
your hot summer gold playlist.
Speaker 5 (57:53):
No, now, Will Smith is dead to all of us. What, bro,
have you followed his cringe like come back rap stuff
that's going on right now?
Speaker 3 (58:02):
I've heard it, But I don't follow celebrities.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
I know. Okay, you're so above it, Ben, I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
I'm just it's just not avery of interest.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
But you're into hip hop and you obviously are a
fan of Will Smith's previous.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Well, it's really bad.
Speaker 5 (58:14):
I just but Miami is an unequivocal bang.
Speaker 4 (58:18):
Are You're not wrong? There?
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (58:21):
I like Miami.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (58:23):
It's clearly his best song other than the Fresh Prints theme.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Pretty good Miami.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
You guys know Will is a big fan of this show.
He's listening right now. And sorry, man, yeah, little that
the newest rap just wasn't necessarily Do you guys.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
Remember the name of his album, Big Willie Style.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
Oh that's yeah, that did not age one Dylan unmuted
and then muted.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Right, I mean, Will aniums better than Big WILLI.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
Oh just makes me titter.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, it's he doesn't light the cigar, but he does
bite it. Again.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Think about how tame that album title is now though,
like just how tame that is?
Speaker 4 (59:09):
Now? For sure? But honestly, do you think he was
going for a penis reference? I don't think he was.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
I think it's an inverted penis reference. Again, it's hard
to say, y'all. Ye'll let us know. Do you think
big Willie style is an overt reference to having you know,
a large chunk? Is it the the early two thousands,
late nineties equivalent of big energy?
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah? Let us know BWS right before BD.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
Well, will Smith doesn't have to cuss in his wraps
to sell records, but we do.
Speaker 4 (59:44):
Yeah, so f him and FU two. No, Actually, we
love all of you. Someone wrap that one up, And
I'm sorry I promised.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
That one up.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
I'll wrap it up. Indeed, I promised a feel good story.
Speaker 5 (59:56):
We won't get too much into the details because we
we burned a lot of time talking to Delta, but
I think it was time well burnt. Japanese scientists have
developed a method for removing the chromosome associated with down syndrome,
which I think is fantastic. And I probably should have
led with that one because it sounds like I'm prioritizing
sky Drama over this. Absolutely life changing scientific development. Down
(01:00:20):
syndrome is the most common chromosomal abnormality caused by the
presence of an extra copy of chromosome twenty one.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Try some me twenty one.
Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
This is also reading verbatim here from medtour dot com
reporting on this. This genetic disorder leads to physical characteristics
developmental delays, including congenital heart defects, hearing impairments, and learning
and speech difficulties. But researchers at my University in Japan
have made an important breakthrough. They have developed a gene
editing method using Crisper technology. The Cast nine Crisper system
(01:00:52):
are any incredible genetic innovation to remove that extra chromosome.
The result so the study published in the journal PNAS
Nexus describe how the Crisper CAST nine system used to
modify DNA can remove the extra chromosome from affected cells.
Crisper uses enzymes to search for specific DNA sequences and
(01:01:15):
once a match is found, is capable of removing entire
strands of genetic material. This is fantastic, you know, I mean,
this is absolute game changer. But then the question becomes
who gets it? Who gets access to this? Is it
very expensive? I don't have the answer to that. It
is not really part of the conversation yet. I don't
(01:01:38):
think this is something that is available yet. It is
just the results of a study. In addition to laboratory
cell culture, scientists tested Crisper on skin fibroblasts taken from
people with Down syndrome. The method worked again, successfully removing
the extra chromosome in several cases. However, Crisper can also
affect healthy cells, so researchers emphasize the techechnology is still
(01:02:00):
a long way from clinical application. The research teams currently
working on improving the technique so that editing only affects
cells with trismine. So seems like a promising development. But again,
with all this gene editing stuff, it does become a
question of who who gets it, who gets access to it?
Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I yield my time. What do y'all think?
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I completely agree with you. You nailed it, I think
because the issue here was in conversations with some folks
about this quite recently, the issue with all the phenomenal
technological progress occurring now at a breakdeck pace is that
we're not seeing the same social progress. The milieu in
(01:02:44):
which these these breakthroughs exist itself is not evolving, right,
These are antiquated systems. So imagine, if you will, the
entire world was still a bunch of relatively inefficient monarchies
and those are the folks who discovered penicillin. How would
(01:03:05):
that work out? You know what I mean. So there's
a very good argument that human civilization is going to
have to evolve in order to fully realize the importance
and the opportunity of technological innovations. Again, I yield my time.
Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
Well, no, casting it as a human right rather than
something for the elites, and immediately thinking about it from
a monetary, you know, commercial perspective, and that's just that's
just that's the system that we live in, and it sucks.
So when you're talking about evolution, we're talking about evolution
of the social norms and mora's of our American culture.
(01:03:41):
This is not something that exists in that same form,
in that same structure in other parts of the world.
Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
And it is utterly.
Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Yeah that's what without the utterly left part. That's that's
what I'm saying, you know, like being.
Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
I'm agreeing with the United States. Yeah, you're right on point.
What do you think that stuff?
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah? I got hit in the face with a story
that came out as we've been recording today about a
mass shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota at a Catholic school where
a bunch of kids were in church and a couple
of tiny little kids got killed by some young twenty
something that went on a shooting spree. And I'm just sorry.
I'm thinking about that as we're talking about this, and
(01:04:21):
just thinking about.
Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
And how unremarkable stories like that are. We've talked about
this in the past as well. I think one time
where something similar happened and it didn't even hit our
radar for that day's strange news, because it is so
sadly unremarkable.
Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
In this country.
Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
And we're not soapboxing here at anybody. It's just the
reality of it.
Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
What's hitting me is just the fact that we live
in a world where this kind of thing had happened, right,
where a group of researchers can put a lot of
time and effort into helping so many people, and then
some other person in some other part of the world
can just pick up a gun and end the lives
of a bunch of people. And you know, just the
feeling of it happening simultaneously is a bit overwhelming to me.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
And we're going to talk about more of that in
our conversation on animal communication, which is publishing quite soon.
The idea that these technological breakthroughs are occurring in civilizations
and indeed in a natural environment that is increasingly imperiled.
Keep in mind, folks, that nothing occurs in a vacuum.
(01:05:27):
There are systemic causes to these things that are often
often reported as unfortunate one off incidents. And so, as
Noel said, we're not going to soapbox here, but we
are well aware of these conversations that need to continue.
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We cannot continue these explorations without the help of you,
specifically you the most important part of the show. So
thank you, as always so much for tuning in. We
are going to be back with learning to talk to animals.
I think we'll finally hop off the Anunaki saddle for
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a moment. We never know.
Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
We are always grew, always lurking around the corner somewhere right.
Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
And we are always always in the midst of a
great conundrum, which is that there is so much strange news.
We know we will not get to everything, but we
know we must continue, So help us out in this
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Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
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