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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
argue you are here. That makes this the stuff they
don't want you to know. If you are tuning in
to our strange news program, The Evening It publishes, let
us be the first to officially welcome you to Monday,
(00:52):
November twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. That's right, Happy Thanksgiving,
my fellow Americans.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Gobble gob as super producer Max would say.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You guys have Thanksgiving plans.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
None this year for the first time in ages. My
kids going on a trip with their their partner and
my Yeah, all my family's doing their own things. So
I'm chilling. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We should hang out. Let's do it. Yeah, we can
do a friendsgiving thing.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What about you are great? I used to love the
friends giving things, like right out of right out of college.
That was a fun time.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, it was so cool.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
There was a friend of the show named Andre who
for many years here here in Atlanta. I started calling
him the Mayor of Thanksgiving because it was a huge
Turkey turkey something.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yes, Turkey Turkey Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Are you saying you guys would have dinner with Andre?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Beautiful? One thing I am doing around the Thanksgiving season
is I'm going to Copenhagen to see the band Radiohead,
and so is Andre. Unrelated, but I just noticed on
instaut that he was going, and so we're going to
connect up. And he's going solo as well, so that'll
be kind of neat. That's funny that you mentioned Andre.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, I love that. I love the Christ out of
that guy. We're old friends from the comedy days in college. Noel,
I will give you one cheek code when you see him,
say hashtag no wolf.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Okay, I know he's all about the wolf thing.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Wife also also like the two wolves.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Right, him and his wife, they're always talking about the
wolf pack or something they've got.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm not at liberty to disclose, but but we are
able to say that if you are enjoying Thanksgiving repast,
you may be eating some cheese in your ritualistic meal,
and you may be hanging out with a celebrity because
our breaking news right now is that UTA has signed
(02:52):
Parmesan Reggiano as a new client. The cheese, the cheese.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They want to yeah, yeah, yes, yes, they want to
build an extended Parmesan universe. I imagine what are we talking?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, okay, Parmagado Reggiato Consortium. We talked a little bit
in the past about how, uh you know, the EU
has those mark of authenticity things similar to how parts
of Canada have a maple syrup cartel. Parmesan has its
own cartel out Italy Way and our friends at as
(03:28):
you said, Matt, the United Talent Agency, have officially signed
Parmesan as their newest protagonist.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Well, I guess our campaign worked.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, can you explain further, Ben, I really just don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
How can a talent agency sign a concept? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So this is November nineteenth, when the News publishes, Oh
we're also recording on November nineteenth. Go to the Hollywood Reporter, folks,
you will find an article by Alex Weeprinten or Weaperon
which says the Pamagiano Reggiano Consortium has revealed that United
Talent Agency has signed the governing body for and this
(04:14):
is a quote, the King of Cheeses to get placed
in films, TV shows and streaming projects across the globe.
So it's going to be like the Wayne's World scene
where they're drinking what was it PEPSI.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Mm hmm, yeah, man, Why do people just they're always
selling out? You know, people doesn't do stuff as you
pay them money.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's really sad. So picture that but with like a
wheel of parmesan, and Dana Carvey says, why are people
selling out?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Sorry, we're uh, we're towards the end of the year.
Does parmesan really need the help? It seems like its
reputation sort of precedes it, you know, especially the you
see it. You you go to the store, you see
the giant wheels, the unattainable wheels, and know that he
only gets your little chunk, you know, for twenty bucks
or whatever. I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Have you ever gotten pizza, Well, then you know parmesan.
It's in that little glass thing you know that has
all the parmesan in it, and more and more lately
it's in those little packets.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
You know parmesan Is that the shaky cheese you get
at the store of the craft. That's not you know,
that's a different breed of Parmesano.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And I want to point out, No, I love that
you said unattainable wheel and I think you just outlined
this amazing metaphor about the sissophia nature of existence. We
got one more heist before we get this strange news,
and that goes to none other than the Tennessee pal
As we were beginning our recording, Uh, Dylan, you revealed
(05:49):
to us that someone had their driveway stolen.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
What Yeah, someone at their driveway stolen overnight. This headline
is stolen driveway leaves women on Rocky Road as she
tries to find out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Not the ice cream?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, so crazy as a.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Real who done it?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
As I gotta know local reeltor. She was trying to
flip a house and resell it. Potential buyers and their
agent called Batten to notify her that something was missing
from the home.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So like they picked it up and then took it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
There was a truck with a trailer, a dump truck
and a king cab truck hauling a back hoe and
they just I guess they just took it.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Was this a Was this an elaborate prank? Like, I
don't why would one do this? It seems like there
are easier ways to get concrete.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
The owner thinks it might have been a mistake, but
it seems like something that you wouldn't mistake a whole driveway, you.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Know, repossessing the driveways for non payments. Did we steal
a driveway?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No, we mistakenly took another driveway, which, by the way,
was very hip hop of us.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
So I plead the fifth element. It'd be ashamed of
something happened to that driveway year.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I plead the fifth element of hip hop.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's for like twelve people.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
WHOA, I know that movie.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's a movie.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I'm trying to imagine the conversation of the like the
crew that was out there. I'm like, all right, guys,
I know this is a crazy job, but we got
to take this driveway. That's what boss said. So lifting
it up.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And the guy with the backo was like, what last job?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm twelve with it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I love when somebody says what last job? So right
in with your best write in or call in with
your best version of that. Folks, we gotta pause for
a word from our sponsors. We have so much stuff
to cover. We're going to talk about excellent bus driving.
We're going to catch up with some ai stuff, a
(07:55):
little bit of trade craft, some weird investment things, some
first kisses actually. But before we get to any of that,
when we return, we have some raccoon news.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Raccoon newss okay, and we have returned guys.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Remember raccoons.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, those little fellas, the cute faces and creepy hands.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, they're always scheming. In a recent episode of Ridiculous History,
we covered the idea of raccoons as invasive species in
Japan and how they're different from the tanuki. Uh spoiler Uh.
The tanuki balls is a thing like the scrotum sack
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of the tanuki is.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's like that's they're like the Harlem globe trotter. They
can just summon tools and implements from the scrotus. Yeah,
they can convert them to parachutes, you know, flying devices,
use them as lassus.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yes, yeah, you get in situations, right, Matt, Are you
familiar with us the tanuki balls thing?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And no I in my recollection of tanuki they can
turn into stone if you hold down and get the
B button right, and then I think they can flip
their tails and let you hover a little bit, or
at least a glide.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, slowly glide down, not really lean.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Into the ball sack factor.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In the Mario universe, they weren't there yet. The video
game techn the public wasn't ready. It could also be there.
We are.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, they're too far ahead of their type.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So we have a longstanding fascination with the concept of domestication.
Very few animals, non human animals have been domesticated. Do
check out our early your episodes on things like Life
after Humans, our conversations about the Fennik fox experiment to
(10:08):
domesticate the fox back in Russia. Now, as we as
we learned recently thanks to Scientific American shout out to
the journalist Marina Wang, raccoons in urban environments are showing
early signs of domestication.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
We're an audio podcast right now, So just so you're.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Not hard, no matter nodding so hard, because we've been
waiting for the wide eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There's a massive influx of human beings that have raccoons
just hanging out in their house. Yes, and like, and
they seem super chill. They were living in my house recently.
I'm actually having to get a tiny part of my
roof taken out because raccoons had been living in there
apparently for years before I moved in, and the previous
(11:01):
owners didn't even know about it or care, I guess,
but they just were hanging out in this little piece
of roof.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah. Oh man, I hope it goes well, and I
hope they're not harming you and your loved ones. Are
They just sort of sneaking and scheming and like doing
weird stuff with their little hands.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Exactly rubbing them together in anticipation.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I'm not kidding. So the way I found out is
that they were They would climb up my patio and
then climb up to the roof of that patio.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Bit of a shimmy, but you would catch them.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
They would just be sitting there, just standing on the patio,
just going huh yeah, and then just climb right up,
just like not scared anything, not worried about you.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I'm pretty certain I mentioned this in the pot, But
I grew up with a guy whose parents worked in
animal conservation and they had a pet raccoon that they
you know, a house, a house raccoon. Uh, this is
this is weird.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
A group of raccoons is called a gaze.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It's a weird one.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So it's a gaze of raccoons. And our longtime friend
of the show, Hally Frye, for for some time she
had a gaze of raccoons in her backyard. And there's something,
there's something strange here because we know, okay, we know
cats domesticated themselves. We know the human and the dog
(12:25):
sort of co domesticated each other another, right, yeah, and
of course casts.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Didn't need us for a damn thing. That tracks no,
right exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And we also so what do we mean when we
say that raccoons are showing early signs of domestication. Well,
we know that there are certain traits that would typically
be juvenile traits for a mammal that carry on into adulthood.
So a recent study found that the raccoons are getting
(13:02):
shorter snouts, smaller heads, bigger floppy ears, retaining fur, and
also losing apprehension toward human presence. I think it's I
think it's kind of nuts because if we go to
the University of Arkansas, a little rock we'll see the
biologist Raphaelia Lesh, who led the study. She says it
(13:26):
goes back to the trash quote. One thing about us
humans is that wherever we go, we produce a lot
of trash.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
About the quality of the trash? Ben is it getting
better there?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I don't know, you guys, it better trash. That's our
other tagline, better trash. So the issue here is that
similar to the first wolves that learn to acclimate to humans, right,
even similar to the rat, which is a different conversation.
(13:58):
I guess the rat who benefits as an omnivorous scavenger
from the presence of human beings. And look, make no mistake, folks,
if you haven't seen a raccoon in real life, they
are way faster than they appear. They are way more agile.
They look like chonky boys, but they will straight up
(14:19):
howls a trash can and then fly across a tree.
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They don't look like they're as agile like if you
see one up close and in person, especially if you
see the videos of the raccoons that hang out in
houses on TikTok, you know those are some chunks, some chalkers.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's like a sumo wrestler suddenly doing parkouraly, which is
no ding on sumo wrestlers are.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They're light on their feet despite their chunk. That's sort
of part of the deal is you got to be
a little bit fleet footed, and uh, there's a balletic
quality to good suma athletic.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we know now that this may function as a
parable in the future. Right, the fact that the anthrops
scene or the age of the human is affecting so
many environments. You guys know, I'm trying to be more
positive right toward the end of the year, so you
(15:22):
can do it, thanks, man. I'm thinking that it is
possible we may reach a new renaissance of domestication, right,
what about raccoons becoming domesticated? What about our meadillos, opossums,
maybe even congress.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Well it's funny too, because I mean it takes some
time for signs of domestication. I mean it is a
it's a form of evolution, right, I mean to actually
clock real change. I mean typically that doesn't happen in
the span of one human lifetime.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Right. Yeah, Yeah, that's a great way to put it,
because typically evolution is evolution is like a brute force hack. Right.
Not everything is going to work, and a lot of
mistakes will be made, so there will be a mutation
or an environmental pressure that ninety nine percent of the
time is terrible. Every so often you win the lottery,
(16:16):
you get stuff like thumbs, right, or you get stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Like chromatophores in the octopus.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You have something like your first kiss, which is an
awkward segue. But do you guys remember your first kiss?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's okay if you don't want to talk about it. Yeah,
but now I can remember a time in my life
where it occurred, but I don't know that I have
a distinct memory of the very first one. I do
cool too, Ah, love it.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You keep your secrets to you, So that's what you
said to her. I think everybody has or I hope,
we hope everybody has a meaningful moment like that in
your life.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And of course, as we get towards the end of
the year, we tend to become a little more nostalgic.
We tend to reflect a bit on the past and
maybe think about the future. And so it may be
this is not breaking news, perhaps, but it's just something
nice we wanted to share with everybody. On November nineteenth,
(17:22):
the University of Oxford and the Florida Institute of Technology
published a paper that says, yes, we found something like
the first kiss. It dates back twenty one million years.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Wow right, Yeah, it's funny too. You ever think about,
like just the nature of what a kiss is.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Like.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It's one of those things where someone had to be
the first one to like do that odd, slightly odd
thing that we now accept as a normal, you know,
sign of affection.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's very weird. I'm confused. It's my understanding that a
kiss is a little thing that you put on your
thumb when you're sewing.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I thought that was called a thimble. Oh yeah, so
with uh, let's continue the sewing circle. I like this, So, uh,
kissing is a very weird thing, right. If we remove
ourselves we are extra terrestrials or extra dimensional entities, and
we go to terra, we go to planet Earth, and
we see people who really like each other just smacking
(18:28):
their mouths on each other's mouths, then we would say, why,
what gives? Apparently it predates Homo sapiens. Apparently it is
proven to exist in earlier primates and apes, and as
well it existed in Neanderthals. We know that Neanderthal and
(18:52):
modern humans probably kissed if we could tell this because
there's shared oral microbes and also there's evidence of you know,
aggressive inter breeding and folks with that we uh, we'd
love to hear if you have a great kissing story,
And guys, I'd also like to think about what other
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human actions are currently normalized but seem very weird to
an outsider, Like hugging is a kiss is a hug
with your mouth.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Right, and a dream is a wish your heart makes.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, so what's another what are some more human acting hands?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But it also is you know, it's a similar thing
where it's sort of like, let my human part interact
and touch in a familiar way your human part and
the mouth I guess is just you know, it's it's
much more close and personal and involves swapping fluids, which
is a sign of trust maybe, right. I don't know,
(19:58):
like if you if you want to boil it down
beyond just what the any titillating aspects of it, like
what does it represent?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
It's about as close as you can get to somebody
pre like you know, procreating.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, it's an exchange of chemical information for sure. Right
to put it in cold scientific terms, it's it's also
not feeding each other, right, it's not regurgitating food, which
is a big difference.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And it's making me think about Pluribus. I just watched
the first two episodes.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
What do you think, man.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Just talking about kissing over here?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Okay, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's in that Not to spoil anything in that show,
but what it represents in that show is an outreach
and a positive interaction, right.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Or well, it's a transfer.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's a transfer, but it's also it's hidden within this
familiar kind of act of kindness of like, you know,
reaching out and showing that I see you, and like
I want to commune with you in some way, not
igu I see you. That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
One last thing, folks, before we moved to our next act.
The Cambridge Dictionary has published their word of the Year.
Can we guess? I think we all saw the notes,
but can we guess?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Oh gosh, we kind of went through the brain rot
stuff last year.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, what would it be?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm guessing maybe something related to politics.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't know. I'm judges. We'll accept it. The Cambridge
Dictionary Word of the year as of November eighteenth, the
day before we recorded this is parasocial. Oh we use
it all the time. Yeah, an imaginary kiss to someone
you haven't met or maybe briefly met. I don't know, man,
(21:53):
We talked about parasocial, We talked about words well pretty
often on the show six seven as a phrase had
its time in the sun. We're in active conversations with
our pal Michael Render and Ramsey yun to over at
conversate to make that a word, to get it in
the in the OED in the Oxford English Dictionary. And
(22:15):
I got to ask you, guys, what do you think
is that a good word to.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Be the word of the year.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I don't quite understand why it's only just popping up
this year. We've been talking about parasocial relationships for you know,
a long long time. Comes up with podcasts all the times,
This idea that it's someone that you spend time with
you don't actually know. What do you think? What do
you think the news hook is? Guys? Why is it
particularly zeitgeisty? At least according to the Cambridge.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Folks, it may be partially due to to your question.
The zeitgeisty question. It may be partially due to the
American deification of celebrities like Taylor Swift and you know
her boo thing the guy she kisses guy named Travis kelcey,
but you absolutely nail the guy. The term dates back
(23:01):
to nineteen fifty six. The definition is a relationship felt
by someone between themselves and then a public figure they
don't personally know. The chief editor over there at Cambridge
is a guy named Colin McIntosh, and he said, look,
this was an academic word for a long time. It
(23:22):
was confined to the academic sphere for quite some time,
but now it has made a shift into popular language.
It's one of those words that may have been influenced
by social media well.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
For sure, but I think that's been happening for a
long time. I bet given a little time, we could
come up with some more relevant words. And I feel
like we've been saying parasocial for a long time. And
maybe where I'm coming of this from a place of
our you know, participation in social media and podcasting, and
maybe it's a little more bubble. But yeah, can you
guys think of any more relevant words?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, Matt, you got one, I've got one.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, here's the question. Can be word of the year,
be a phrase or like two words with one yes
meaning yes.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I mean it depends on whether it's Cambridge or oed
or Webster Merriam, but yes.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Basically, Okay, well I think the phrase of the year
is circular investment.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Now that's what we call a segue. We're gonna pause
for a word from our sponsors and we'll be back
with more strange news.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
All right, and we have returned with some more of
the strangest of news is I'm gonna lead with a
quick one that's fun. The story itself, I don't know
is that if it's that interesting, but it led me
down an interesting rabbit hole. A bar owner in the
UK in Altrisham, Greater Manchester has made a little bit
(24:53):
of a kerfuffle there locally by banning solo drinkers from
his establishment to place Russians. Me sure, yeah, yeah, and Matt,
well we're going to get to Russians in a minute.
But yeah, just the idea of like an individual showing
up to the bar without a group and you know,
(25:16):
siling up to the bar and you know, having a
few adult beverages without any company. The owner of a
cocktail in karaoke bar where solo drinkers are banned. This
is from the BBC says he is baffled by the
furior it has caused on social media, as the policy
is for the safety of all guests. Guy Carl Peters
(25:37):
said that the no single intrigue policy set after what's
twenty one hundred hours, y'all? I'm so bad at the
old twenty four hour clock nine pm? Nine pm? That
would be nine pm, got it? So after nine subtract
Well that's right, yeah, for sure. So after nine pm,
no one is allowed to come into this place on
his on their own. Peters told the BBC that it
(25:59):
was to mi to gate risk and protect his customers
from being quote mitherd, I love a Mithard mitherd. Y'all
solo drinkers. We're gonna get to that in a minute.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Also, it sounds like something happened, well it which it
does sound like that because his example is pretty specific.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Okay. He says there are two reasons that he introduced
the policy. Firstly, if someone on their own has a
seizure or an accident with no one with them quote
in a late night busy bar environment, it is an
absolute nightmare for us to deal with. Gonna guess that
something like this has happened a time or two. He
also noted that sometimes if you let people in on
(26:38):
their own, the reason why they're on their own is
that they don't have any friends. So there they begin
mithering the other.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Groups mithering, mithering, one of the boy or boys? What
is what we do?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
We'll get to what we do as a venue is
we just eliminate that unless you're with a group, and
we know who you're with, then you're not coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Peters added that he.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Took pride that his customers felt safe in his establishment
and was astounded that he got such pushback on social media,
with some people just saying that it was a discriminatory policy.
I guess if you could certainly look at it as
like he is discriminating against the friendless, you know, which,
which is certainly a group, y'all. And I actually saw
a thing pop up on social media earlier today about
(27:22):
the psychology of friendlessness.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go back and look.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Into that because I oh true, Yeah, for sure, I
think it's around a study that just came out.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I'd love to read it. This also reminds me of
of restaurant culture in places like South Korea, where I
could I could totally see a bar there or even
a restaurant there say Nope, you got to move in
a group.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
He can't be here solo. They do move in herds.
It's true. And actually I realized now that what I
saw was a video on YouTube on the Brain Snack
to Go channel called Psychology of People that Have No Friends.
So I'm gonna go back and give that one a look. See.
But yes, Matt, you did ask the twenty thousand pound question,
which is what is mithering? I think we could probably
(28:11):
use context clues and figure that out. It's just the
idea of bugging somebody. If you're a solo drinker, you
didn't come with any pals, you get a few in you,
maybe you start wandering around to other groups like our
buddy Cuba Gooding Junior. Just gonna leave that one on
the table there with no context. But that is a
thing that happened to Ben and I. We were mithered
by and he was solo drinking. And you know, if
(28:35):
anyone spent any amount of time in these late night
drinking establishments, I think we've probably all seen folks having
a bit of a bad time because of being harassed
by people who are there alone and maybe have don't
have anybody looking out for them to tell them they've
maybe had enough. That is technically the bartender's responsibility. But
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you know, these people are busy, They're serving a lot
of folks and they can certainly fall through the cracks
in a very very busy night of customers.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Or they're not fluent in social cues right just to
get away from any intoxicating substance. It's fair to say
not to be too Alice and the looking glass here,
but I think it's fair to say that a lot
of people have been on both sides of the mither there.
You know, like you were saying, Noel, you might have
(29:26):
a little bit of what we used to call Dutch
courage and walk into a crew and say do the
thing where everybody's laughing, and then you walk in while
everybody's laughing and you also laugh.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, and then they're like, here, eat this chicken wing.
I don't think people hate that.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I think it kind of works unless you do the
Cuba gooding junior chicken.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It depends y'all.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
It absolutely is about reading social.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Cues, and you know, people talk about bars as being
a place where you can meet friends. I think we
recently saw a study or a social media influence or something.
I know what I just did. I equated social media
influencers with studies, not the same thing. But I saw
something recently about an individual encouraging folks to get off
the apps and start just going to bars where you
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can actually meet actual human beings. There are some issues
with that, of course, in this are me too age
where I think a lot of folks are worried or
freaked out about being mischaracterized as creepy or approaching somebody
you know, without being invited as that being perhaps an
unwonted advance, or being misconstrued as that. So I think
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there are certain folks that maybe shy away from this
kind of IRL interaction for those very reasons. So I'm
on the fence as to whether this is a good
rule or a bad rule. I think we've talked about
both sides of it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I would just say I think it is a good rule,
but not for the reasons that were stated there by
the bartender. Okay, I think you can help prevent somebody
from becoming a victim of let's say, a predator who's
going to a bar, either alone or with a bunch
of other people who were hunting right, and they are
attempting to maybe drug somebody, which we know is a
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thing that occurs all the time. If you're there all alone,
you were probably way more likely. I don't know if
that's true or not, but I would assume you're more
likely to be targeted, and you wouldn't have somebody who's
watching your back there while you're at the bar, watching
your drink or something like that.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Brother, You're so not wrong. And I'm not sure if
I've mentioned this on the show or not, but there
was one time I was solo traveling internationally and I
was drinking by myself at a little pub near my hotel, thankfully,
and ninety eight percent certain that somebody put something in
my drink because I felt all of a sudden very disoriented,
and there was an individual who was trying to sell
(31:43):
me you illegal substances, and I got up and walked
away for a minute. When I came back, he made
a little comment about how you shouldn't walk away from
your drink buddy, almost like threatening, And that's when I left,
and as I was walking back to my hotel, I
started realizing that someone I think i'd been. Yes, it's
a good point matter, and I do think that is
a reason this might.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Be a decent policy. Yeah, yeah, I'm ninety eight percent
sure you knew exactly who that person was. Did you
reach out to me?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I did know. I knew who the person was. It
was that guy who was being weird and threatening. But
I'm just saying if I, thankfully I was not away
far far away from my home base and it was
within walkings or stumbling distance, but that could have gone
very poorly if I had been in an unsafe, isolated
situation in an unfamiliar place.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So how do you enforce this, then, is my question
for all of us in the audience tonight, Because the
clear easy loophole, for I don't like the characterization of
solo drinkers as friendless automatically, but the clear easy loophole
is for the solo folks to meet outside and then
(32:53):
just walk in as a unit, and then they just
don't have to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Well yeah, I mean, it's not like they can check
your friendals or ask you like where did you meet,
did you go to grade school together? Whatever, Like they
can't really go that far. But yeah, there is a
sign it says here entrance policy no single entry after
nine pm. Alibi does not permit single entry. If you
are with guests already inside the venue, please contact them
in advance. And the name of the place is Alibi.
(33:20):
That is kind of funny, So he is being accused
of this being a discriminatory policy. But back to mithering.
I was absolutely, you know, intrigued by this word because
when I googled it, the only thing that came up
was this article and then this other article from the
BBC called the Quirkiest local words from around the UK.
(33:42):
And I'm gonna list of all some of these. But
mither is is something from the north, which is where
Manchester is located. Meaning to bother, so using an ascent
of stop mithering or apply to virtually everything that a
child might say, We've got Dempsey is when it's just
getting dark in the town of dev it's dimpsey out. Marty,
we know this one. I believe you might have heard.
(34:04):
Marting is something that the guy from the nineteen seventy
five said Maddie Healy.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
He accused the Gallagher brothers.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Of always marding. They're madding means like, you know, fussing
with each other, but it can also mean sulking or
being moody. Breeks is a term from Cumbria referring to trousers,
fou sies, little sweet treats you might have with tea
or coffee in Northern Ireland. And a couple of my
personal favorites twittin's meaning those tiny alleyways which go in
(34:36):
betwixt and between houses from Sussex, as well as well
as last one here stank, which is a walk. Guys.
It is a type of walk Cornish word, as in
that was a fair old stank meaning a long walk.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's cool, pretty neat.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
So yeah, check that out if you wants to as
well on the BBC the quirkiest local words from around
the UK. Guys, that yielded a lot more conversation than
I was expecting, so I'm just going to kind of
rattle off these last two really quickly. We do love
an odd heist, as we mentioned at the top of
the show and as we mentioned on just about every
Strange News when a heist is in play. Here's one
(35:14):
one of the most polite and Canadian of heist. Man
takes bus for joy ride in Canada, turns down passenger
with expired pass. Jennifer Hauser, writing for CNN, wrote, Canadian
police say a member of the public who took an
Ontario Transit bus for a joy ride with about ten
passengers still on board didn't even leave a dan. Hamilton
(35:35):
Police spokesperson Trevor McKenna told CNN affiliate CBC it's comical,
but at the same time it's serious. We're thankful nobody
was hurt. The man boarded the bus and drove away
while the real driver was taking a break. He continued
making stops, correct stops and allowing the passengers to enter
an exit. According to the Hamilton Police press release that
(35:57):
came out this week, McKenna, the spokes and said that
at first passengers were just, you know, none the wiser,
but then eventually someone realized that this individual seemed to
be making some wrong turns, at which point this person
gave them help, gave them some directions to help get
them back on track. When it was revealed this had happened,
(36:18):
the Hamilton Police decided to keep their distance rather than
cause some sort of panic in the driver. They worked
with Hamilton Street Railway, the company that runs public transit there,
to keep tabs on the bus's GPS and keep their
distance and have their sirens off. We didn't want to
spook him, McKenna said, We didn't want to make this
(36:38):
a tragedy. So after about fifteen minutes they were able
to safely stop the bus. Did I mention, Yeah, they
did turn away an individual whose bus pass had expired,
So very very polite hes the suspect, who is not
being named and is listed as having no fixed address,
which I think may be a way of referring to
an unhoused individual here in Canadian Parlia. They are being
(37:01):
charged with theft and possession over five thousand dollars, obstructing police,
and driving while prohibited uh and he will be appearing
in court to answer to the charges. I guess like
a champion, I mean truly. You know, again, it's an
easy It's a different story when nobody gets hurt, and
I have to imagine that there's some either a real
(37:22):
mischievous streak in this individual or some mental health issues
at play.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Complications it reminds me of the guy who stole a
plane for a joy ride. Didn't he did all He
didn't stick the landing, but he did a barrel roll.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
He did some loopy loops, he did some cool.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Kind of top gun stuff, and while he was in
the air, eventually he realized he had the land And
that is the tricky party.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
But what do you I mean? I know it's illegal,
but it's so wholesome, very wholesome and very polite, very Canadian.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It also runs me of that time somebody's small prop
plane was being boosted.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And secretly they kept cigarette butts and stuff in it
or whatever, ultimately taking care.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Of Yeah, they did the maintenance. You know. It's kind
of like, uh, for people who are fancy pants and
get valet parking. It's kind of like when the valet says, oh,
this is a cool car and they drive it around
the block a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Take it for a ride around the block. Nothing wrong
with that, No, there is something wrong with that. Your
plead your ord.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Uh my client pleads that this was wholesome and dope
and he should be And the judge is like, uh,
boom with the gavel and says, you know what you're
sentenced to being an actual city bus driver. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Wow, when you put it like that, Shout out to
all the folks out there working for public transit though
and getting getting people where they're going on time. We
very much appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Wait, are you working for public transit? Bend huh. Ben's
a secret buster is the way he said, thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Was taking this as an opportunity to take all our
friends out there who you know, who were driving the
buses and piloting the subways and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Piloting the subways, the subways, unatatable wheel piloting the subway. Okay,
all right, I appreciate it that I'm doing my best,
trying to use my words. I will wrap up today
with just a mention. We recently talked about some.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Of the underwhelming results we're seeing from some of these
humanoid robots here in the US, as they're being trotted
out literally on stage, not doing the best of jobs,
showing us the advancements that we think maybe should have
occurred in the time since we've seen all those really
incredible bust and dynamic robots. This phenomenon is also taking
(39:50):
place in Russia, where a startup company made a big
to do in presenting a an AI powered robot with
a absolutely horrific humanoid faces in a rictus grimace. It's very,
very upsetting. So the further country's first humanoid robot, as
reported by the Russian publication Medusa, uses AI technology and
(40:14):
was unveiled at your recent technology conference in Moscow. Video
of the event really went viral for all the wrong
reasons as the robot named idol aid L hobbled on
stage accompanied by two humans to the tune of Gonna
Fly Now, the main theme from Rocky, which just added
(40:37):
to the insult to the injury, and then promptly fell
toppled over directly on its face. I put a link
in the chat guys if we want to just watch
it together really quickly and in comment before we pop
to the next segment. Here we go, guys, step.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
For a robot followed by one giant face plan.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
So tenuous, this tiny little steps. He raises his alarm
and then oh no, he looks dru Oh god, and
then they have to literally drag him off stage as
they cover it. I'm calling him him with a curtain
so no one can.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
See the horror.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
The horror you guys. I don't know, man, it's not
too far off from the kind of things we're seeing
from Tesla. I just it just made me chuckle a
little bit. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah? Oh, wait, no, The Daily Show puts something out
with that, and it was they did one of those
where it's like a viral video or something, and then
they put text over different characters in the viral video,
and that character in the video is supposed to represent
something else, and I think it was something about, uh,
(41:51):
the current administration attempting to avoid the Epstein stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Shout out to the open AI guy. By the way,
no doubt just skid autled.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Some of the comments on the YouTube posts of this
video are pretty priceless. Just left a Russian bar. The
Russians couldn't even get the closing curtain right just in
the war. Now the curtain is the best part, no doubt,
as they try to cover him.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Let's see robot is fueled with vodka.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You can see it the way it quote unquote moves
robots after a shift at Amazon. Russians playing the Rocky
theme is another level of irony, because was it the
big bad in one of the Rocky movies like a
mega Iron Curtain kind of esque, you know, Russian villain.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, I wish it was a big robot though, maybe
we do a Rocky versus robots we.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Must, Yeah, hopefully it's in the word.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I'd also love for us to do an episode just
on the latest evolutions and I'm using that word carefully
in robotic technology, especially the humanoid stuff. Chia is at
the forefront right now, and we had a story that
we're not going to get to today with the idea
(43:07):
of pre crime and the optimist robot. But yeah, interesting
times to live in.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
And last one, at least it didn't rip its own
head off like in RoboCop. I don't remember what happened
to that effect in RoboCop, but it's making me want
to revisit that movie. So yeah, we're going to take
a break here, have a little word from our sponsor,
and then come back with the last segment in Today's
Strange News episode.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And we've returned, guys, we're gonna have another update to
a little thing that we talked about in twenty twenty three. Ben,
I think you talked about it. Maybe I know you've
at least updated us several times on strange news over
the years since August twenty twenty three. But it is
a raid on a small town Kansas newspaper there in
(43:58):
Marion County. It happened in August twenty twenty three. Then
we talked about an update where the police chief that
ran the small raid ended up getting suspended. Then we
talked about a couple other major updates to the court
case that has essentially been going on since then because
the county was being sued by the private homeowners whose
(44:22):
houses got raided, who were also the people who worked
at and ran the newspaper there. Well, we've got another update, guys.
There's a settlement of some sort. We're jumping to ap
news from November eleventh, twenty twenty five. I was just
going to read directly from it. A rural Kansas county
(44:43):
Marion County has agreed to pay around three million dollars
and apologize right over a law enforcement rate in a
small town weekly newspaper back in August twenty twenty three.
That sparked a bunch of news and an outcry. The
apology's got to be the part that hurts the worst.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well, the apology is worth its waiting goal. Yeah, and Matt,
was this the decision of a group of rural Gerbers.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, we did it, guys, we finally did it.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
We got it.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
We got there. I got there. That's why we started
this show.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
We always said, once it happens, and we would have
accomplished our goals and we could really be done.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
It's it's our nine billion names of God or whatever
that story is.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
You also sounded sober as a judge when you said that,
which is no small feat. Yeah, okay, sober as a judge.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Is that an idiom?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
People say that judges be sober.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
And you said rural juror like a like a real
straight straight arrow, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I mean it's it's again, it's the it's the word
crime that we have always aimed for, say, rural juror
and bob blah blah.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Uh wait.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
So, so, the like Noel was saying, Matt, the apology
here seems to very symbolic weight, if not legal weight.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Uh yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say. So
you can look all of this up if you want to.
You right now, it's just a bit of an update. Well,
you can go to a little bit of it because
if you'll recall, this occurred in a weird way where
there was there was some local what would you call it,
guys politics issues between the newspaper and the sheriff's office
(46:29):
and the local police the I guess the city police
there in Marion County or in the city, and the
sheriff's office helped to draft the search warrants that allowed
the city cops to go into the newspaper's offices and everything,
but then also go to the publisher's house and to
I think a council a council member's house, a local
(46:50):
city council member. And when all of that was occurring,
there was a ninety eight year old woman there, the
mother of one of the people that was being targeted.
She had a heart attack and died as a result
of all the hubbub and everything that was going on
when the house is getting raided. I think that or
it seems to be that the apology is probably more
(47:12):
in that realm, like, hey, we didn't mean to hurt anybody.
We were trying to do our job or that kind
of thing. But also, oh, we did the wrong thing here,
and we went about this the wrong way, and that's
why we're going to pay three million dollars. Whow okay,
yeah again, read all about it. The estate of the
(47:35):
woman who died is going to receive one million of
that money, which is pretty great. Actually, let's go here
to the judgment just to learn where that money's going.
The estate of Meyer's mother, the woman who died, is
going to receive one million dollars. Meyer, two former record reporters,
and the paper's business manager are going to split one
point one million dollars. And then the former city council member,
(47:58):
Ruth herbel is her name, She's going to receive six
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It's pretty great. And she's
she's talking about creating some kind of fund to make
sure the paper gets to stay alive. I like that,
isn't that cool?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
That's great, that's a good So.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
That's better than putting a quantitative price on a human
life for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
And now, by the way, that paper was known for
really sticking it to the man in the county, so
like it's kind of cool to have that kind of thing.
You know, you got the fourth estate there for a reason,
to try and keep everybody as honest as possible. Speaking
of Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Matt, I gotta say it's refreshing hearing it referred to
as the fourth estate the press, as we tend to
hear it more referred to as the fake news media lately.
So I hadn't even thought about that phrase, and it
gives it such reverence that I think is one that
it absolutely deserves. So thank you well.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
It only exists in that way as that thing theoretically.
Sometimes it functions as such. Other times it just doesn't
go so great for the journals. They all try. We try,
everyone tries.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
The current president, in speaking with the leadership of the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia regarding journalism, simply said, things happen.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
And then sometimes the wrong people get wind and then
talk about it in their dirty newspaper.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
And I'm sure all right, shout out to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Oh okay. So let us jump to a little more
recent news that was a while back, November eleventh. This
is November eighteenth, yesterday, as we were recording This is
NBC News, written by Jared Perlow p E. R.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
L O.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Here's the title. AI generated evidence is showing up in court.
Judges say they're not ready. This is a very very
long article, guys. I'm just going to give you the
highlights here. There's a judge named Victoria Kolakowski and and
she's serving in this case titled Mendones versus Cushman and
(50:04):
Wakefield Incorporated. And she notices as they're going through the evidence,
as it's being presented to the court, that there's something
a little off with this Exhibit six C. Specifically, it's
a video of a witness, but it's kind of strange.
It was submitted by the plaintiffs. It's California housing dispute,
and it showed this witness who they had seen before.
(50:28):
This witness had appeared in another authentic piece of evidence,
So this is somebody the court has seen before. Does
that make sense? The judges see and the suri has
seen this person, yes, but in video form. The judge
noticed that the voice was all weird, disjointed is how
Jared describes it. Monotone. Her face was fuzzy, and it
(50:52):
seemed to be lacking emotion, and then every few seconds
she would kind of twitch and then repeat the emotions
she had been doing before outside of the verbal stuff.
So the nonverbal movements on the camera, so then the
judge realized, holy crap, I think this, this is a
deep fake video being presented as evidence by the plaintiffs.
(51:17):
So she said, hold up, hold up, we're not going
to do this. Actually, we're going to dismiss this whole case.
This is done. You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Oh my gosh, bet that's going to be such a
problem moving forward, Like.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
This technology always outpaces legislation.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Well not only that, but it's just like even being
able to spot it. And then if there's even suspicion
then a thing is a deep fake. It could cause
all kinds of problems for the defense and that or
the prosecution.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Right, yeah, And it seems like this is only one
of the first cases of this. It's one of the
first cases where a plaintiff is put forward, you know,
evidence fully, like, here is evidence for the court and
it is a deep fake video. Seems weird.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
It was.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It was according to them, it was real, one hundred
percent genuine article. This is a real video of a
real witness. And then it was up to the judge
to figure it out and say, no, we can't do this.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah. The judge is like, hey, I know this character
from an earlier episode essentially right, this is one of
the this is a time that this was identified and adjudicated. Right,
But this may not necessarily be the first time something
like this was entered into evidence and passed the smell test, because.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Does that mean that maybe there could become a rash
of cases getting overturned down the line if things are
re examined.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
So the way this article puts it, Previously, the big
problem was people on one side of the case would
allege that the other side was presenting deep faked evidence
or hey, that video was deep faked, so, you know,
attempting to get evidence thrown out. In this case, it's
just the judge realizing that the wool is being pulled
(53:02):
over eyes here, and we don't want this to occur
because this is a court of law.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
Do you see what I mean?
Speaker 6 (53:07):
Though?
Speaker 4 (53:07):
Like I mean, we keep hearing about like haybeas corpus
briefs being filed or maybe that's the wrong term, but
the idea of reassessing a case after someone's already been
convicted and having it thrown out after the fact, don't
you start to think we're going to start seeing people
like as time progresses and this technology is more like
accepted to have been possibly on the table.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
People are going to start doing that.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Obviously the technology didn't exist for like legacy old cases
for that to really come into play, but it is
going to change things up moving forward.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, I things are gonna get real weird in the courts.
That that thing we described by the way, where one
side of the court, you know, lodges an allegation that
this is a defake video that is has a cool
phrase for it. It's called Liar's Dividend.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Liar's Dividend. Oh my gosh, you guys, that was the
name of our first album.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
Sounds like a gamble game you'd play in the Old West,
you know.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, right, check out our check out our breakout signal
Rural Juror, which I think was in the Billboard top
forty eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
So guys, this is one of the crazy things. Two points.
Metadata is one of the only reasons that this video
was proven to be fake because in the metadata it
said the video was taken on an iPhone six, like
captured with an iPhone six, But because of the timeline
of this case when things occurred, it was not possible.
(54:36):
What do they say here, This is a dreg quote
from the article, the court found the metadata of one
of the purportedly real but deep faked videos show that
the plaintiffs video was captured on an iPhone six, which
was impossible given that the plaintiff's argument required capabilities only
available on an iPhone fifteen or newer.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Oh rookie mistake.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
But isn't that interesting that just that one little slip up.
It feels to me like courts will have to have
some kind of appointed person that is an expert of
a technological expert, and someone can discover during that discovery
process if anything has been generated it.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
That's right, But we've talked about this too, like it
mean you almost have to go step further than that.
But it would be really hard to enforce having some
sort of watermark on footage that was created organically, like
through a lens, or having some way to distinguish between
the two. Because we've got ai quote unquote experts. It's
a field that's relatively new. To your point about the
forensic aspect of it, it's still the rules are being written.
(55:42):
They're not able to tell the difference between the fake
clip and the real clip. A lot of these experts now.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, Yeah, there was a study we were talking about
off air, I can't remember if it made it onto
the show regarding the average human beings inability now to
differentiate between the unquote real stuff and the quote unquote
fake stuff. Historically here in the United States, that role
(56:08):
of like forensic it would be divided between the prosecution
and the defense, like the It's on the different teams
to pay for the cost of that and to have
the awareness to engage with it. But I agree with you, Matt,
it would be cool and it'd be a very smart
(56:28):
move to have someone who is not on either side,
just like sitting by the judge and going, that's not
really spider Man. Spider Man is actually a made up
character from a comic book, so there's no way he
could have driven that pass for that.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Long case closed, this case is dismissed. Well, yeah, I
do agree with you guys. I think there's gonna have
to be something like that, especially with the push that's
happening for all this AI stuff, which brings us to
the last quick thing I want to mention here today,
as we're recording on Wednesday, November nineteenth, in Vidia is
(57:06):
putting out it's Q three earnings, which it is crazy
to know that that one company is essentially the thing
upon which all of the AI bubble currently blows. So
all the circular investing, all the super hyped folks on X,
(57:28):
all the folks that are just so excited about AI,
everything rests on how in Nvidia is doing and what
people think about how Nvidia is doing.
Speaker 4 (57:38):
It's because they make the products that drive the AI.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
They make the actual equipment.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
In a way, they make part of the equipment that
will eventually be the old parts. Like anybody who has
ever built a PC of any form before knows you've
got a little bit of time before those parts aren't
good anymore. Hey, which means they're gonna have to build
more AY and people are gonna have to buy more.
So maybe that's great. Maybe we all just create chips
(58:08):
and build more data centers from now until eternity.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Until the water runs out. So weirdly, we are investors
across the world and we run to this company and
we say, oh, I've got all these eggs, and Nvidia says, great,
we've got one basket.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, this is it's insane what humanity is doing right now. Guys,
We're just putting that out there. I am looking at
three charts here, guys, just because of what's occurring. The
first one is the the Nvidia stock price, which you
if you go back to twenty twenty three, was worth
around fifteen dollars at clothes on this one day. I'm
(58:48):
looking at it twelve twenty six, twenty twenty two. It
is currently worth one hundred and eighty four dollars as
we're recording this per share. You can look at that
crazy art and the way that it goes up. You
can see the difference between what it was at and
all the hype people functioning. I'm also looking at Palenteer.
(59:10):
I'm looking at a five year range here. At Palenteer
twenty twenty three was worth about six dollars or forty
cents per share, currently worth about one hundred and sixty
four dollars per share. Also looking at bitcoin, guys, anybody
watching bitcoin?
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah, it sucks. It's tanking right now. Yeah, yeah, it's
you know, it's a correction. I'm sorry, it's well, we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
It's the if you look at those three charts overlaid,
it's the exact same thing. Twenty twenty three worth seventeen
thousand dollars per bitcoin currently worth ninety four thousand, ninety
five thousand.
Speaker 4 (59:49):
Well, and it was above one hundred, and the fact
that it dropped below one hundred is the big like
red flag.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the story that all of this
goes back to and is connected to you comes from
CNN Business, written by Alison Morrow on November eighteenth, yesterday,
as we record why some elite investors are turning on
the darling of the AI rally. This is about in video,
which makes up currently eight percent of the total value
(01:00:15):
of the S and P five hundred, those five hundred
companies that are the big boys. It makes up eight
percent of that thing, which is egregious.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
By the way, folks, Yes, but it's all shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, but it also makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
The net income annual net income of Nvidia group more
than five hundred and eighty percent between twenty twenty three
and twenty twenty four. Now, is that because of all
the amazing things they're doing or is it because of
that hype that investor hype and what they're doing there
and then.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
The Ponzi scheme of circular investing. Yes, I love that
you're bringing up that term. We talk a little bit
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
We do need to talk a little bit about that,
but first let's talk about the things that are happening,
and then why that thing is important that you've been so.
Peter Teal, you know him, Yeah, anti anti technology, anti
Christ guy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Let's text them.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Let's text him now, just an emoji, just to get
him with an emoji.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
This this week, as we're recording, it was made known
that at some point in Q three of twenty twenty five,
Peter Teal, the hedge fund that he runs, sold the
entire stake that it held in Nvidia, all five hundred
and thirty seven seven hundred and forty two shares worth
around one hundred million dollars. So he got out of
in Nvidia, which is kind of a crazy thing considering
(01:01:41):
who he is and what he's into. And then this
other thing. Soft Bank just made an announcement that it
sold all of its in Vidia holdings worth around five
point eight billion. Now soft Bank says, well, that's to
invest in other AI stuff. So they're just taking it
out of in Video's AI hype beast thing and putting
(01:02:02):
it into a different one. Uh, then the last one,
which is really interesting. Here, guys, a dude named Michael Burry.
Do we remember who Michael Burry is?
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I remember the name the other Warren Buffett.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Did we ever see a movie called The Big Short?
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I do recall The Big Short.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yes, Michael Burry is the guy from The Big Short
who realized, oh, there's a housing bubble and I need
to make put options on this housing market.
Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Well who played him?
Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Was it Christian Bale?
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Christian Bale played Michael Burry?
Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
He is also getting out of Nvidia by putting put
options on the company. He's also putting put options on Palanteer.
Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
He the options meaning you're basically betting that the stock
will go down.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yes, but by a certain extent or a certain percentage
or it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Sounds like gambling stuff, guys. I mean it really always.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Has gambling it does.
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
But here, to me is the craziest thing. This guy,
the Big Short guy, sure put these put investments and
then he shut down his hedge fund and he said,
I no longer understand valuations in the stock market because
the valuations are no longer make rational sense according to
(01:03:20):
the metrics that are generally used that like Harvard Business
School tells you how to valuate the company. That's not
how it works, no more. It don't work like that
no more. Now it's just what do we all believe? Guys?
Is it this thing?
Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Whoa right?
Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
And who gets stuck in the stone chair at the end? Right?
Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
How do we surf the wave?
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
How do we ride the bubble before it pops on us?
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It's sorry, guys, I'm just putting that out there because
it's insane. It feels like we're all caught in some
kind of collective hallucinations. Yeah, but a hallucination about what
we want future to be and somehow.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
We sign is maybe a better word for it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
It's a no win situation here, this AI thing.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It's unsustainable for sure. It's untenable as it due to
we talked about this previously, like the technology the social environment, right,
the social contract has to evolve in step with the technology.
So now, if we think about it, like assembling a
PC or a gaming rig at home, your components have
(01:04:28):
to work together, and in this case, for multiple reasons,
different components are not playing nice with each other. Right,
But the stock market is an old idea A lot
of the systems and mechanisms involved are antiquated and this
is the new new stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
I was going back to Warren Buffett for anybody who
follows the buffet, right, he is a fan of Nvidia,
but they're not investing in it. And a lot of
people are reading tea leaves over that one. Mmmmm, Warren,
(01:05:12):
why did I say his name in italics?
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Well, it should text him to send them the opposite
text them, okay, different emoji.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Well, open AI has an IPO coming, an initial public offering,
that is, you know, it's the valuation is like a
trillion dollars or something. But none of these companies are
making the money that they should be making to be
valued at that at that height, that insane level. Well,
at least the companies that are, like the software companies
(01:05:39):
right using these llms to do things or attempting to
AIFI all of the crap that you use. I like
that AI it's it's in video is the only one
that's actually producing stuff right now. You know, of all
these companies, well, there's there's they're a bunch of AI companies.
They are doing a bunch of things. But that's the
big one that's making stuff. Everybody else is trying to
(01:06:02):
find a way to make money, and it feels like
it's going to keep happening until.
Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
In Vidia makes graphics cards. I mean, they make other
computer components too. I mean, I guess I always looked
at them as at least somewhat more of a safe bed,
because they're not just you know, AI vaporware. They make
products that.
Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's what sells well. Right, But maybe maybe they shouldn't
be valued at four point five trillion dollars and maybe
their stock price should actually be around seventy five dollars maximum.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
But you know whatever, you know what we need for this, guys,
we need a city raccoon in charge of Nvidia. We
need like a schemer with little hands who's nimble. Surprisingly,
I just bring it back raccoons, because at this point,
you're right, Beaty or dillit.
Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
It is surreal.
Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
It is not tenable, it is not sustainable. There is
a horizon, and I suspect that horizon has a cliff
at the end.
Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
I guess what I'm getting at is, like, personally, investment wise,
I've always just only been comfortable investing in stuff that
makes stuff that like you know, actually has a product
or service and it isn't just like this concept that
has the potential to completely implode.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Well, I'm sitting here talking to you as a non investor.
I have not invested in any company, not a single one,
none of this stuff. I think I have a four
to h one K that runs on energy stuff that
I set up when I was a kid, you know,
because we've been working at this company for a long
long time. But what has to happen, I thank you guys,
(01:07:48):
is there has to be a major crash. And it
is horrifying because Ben, you're absolutely right, and what you
were talking about the cliff, that cliff now because in
Nvidia is so huge paleteer and all these companies are
so huge, it's going to be devastating for everybody who's invested,
for everybody who has a pension, for everybody. It's it's
just going to be it's going to be horrifying. But
(01:08:11):
it'll at least wake us up to realize, oh, this
is not the way.
Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Well, unless you think we're telling you to like divest
everything from your four oh one K or like liquidate everything,
I mean dependent advisors, certainly, Well, what I'm also saying, though,
is like, and I don't sound like the I mean,
I'm just being devil's advocate here. Is like, if you're
young enough, like you know, people that panic sell in
these situations, and that's also a way to lose everything.
(01:08:36):
But if you're young enough, these things do have a
way of ebbing and flowing, and they're called corrections for
a reason. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Yeah, it's a it's a very interesting religion the economy.
Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
And that's all I got.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
argue you are here. That makes this the stuff they
don't want you to know. If you are tuning in
to our strange news program, The Evening It publishes, let
us be the first to officially welcome you to Monday,
(00:52):
November twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. That's right, Happy Thanksgiving,
my fellow Americans.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Gobble gob as super producer Max would say.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You guys have Thanksgiving plans.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
None this year for the first time in ages. My
kids going on a trip with their their partner and
my Yeah, all my family's doing their own things. So
I'm chilling. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We should hang out. Let's do it. Yeah, we can
do a friendsgiving thing.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What about you are great? I used to love the
friends giving things, like right out of right out of college.
That was a fun time.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, it was so cool.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
There was a friend of the show named Andre who
for many years here here in Atlanta. I started calling
him the Mayor of Thanksgiving because it was a huge
Turkey turkey something.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yes, Turkey Turkey Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Are you saying you guys would have dinner with Andre?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Beautiful? One thing I am doing around the Thanksgiving season
is I'm going to Copenhagen to see the band Radiohead,
and so is Andre. Unrelated, but I just noticed on
instaut that he was going, and so we're going to
connect up. And he's going solo as well, so that'll
be kind of neat. That's funny that you mentioned Andre.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, I love that. I love the Christ out of
that guy. We're old friends from the comedy days in college. Noel,
I will give you one cheek code when you see him,
say hashtag no wolf.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Okay, I know he's all about the wolf thing.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Wife also also like the two wolves.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Right, him and his wife, they're always talking about the
wolf pack or something they've got.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm not at liberty to disclose, but but we are
able to say that if you are enjoying Thanksgiving repast,
you may be eating some cheese in your ritualistic meal,
and you may be hanging out with a celebrity because
our breaking news right now is that UTA has signed
(02:52):
Parmesan Reggiano as a new client. The cheese, the cheese.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They want to yeah, yeah, yes, yes, they want to
build an extended Parmesan universe. I imagine what are we talking?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, okay, Parmagado Reggiato Consortium. We talked a little bit
in the past about how, uh you know, the EU
has those mark of authenticity things similar to how parts
of Canada have a maple syrup cartel. Parmesan has its
own cartel out Italy Way and our friends at as
(03:28):
you said, Matt, the United Talent Agency, have officially signed
Parmesan as their newest protagonist.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Well, I guess our campaign worked.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, can you explain further, Ben, I really just don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
How can a talent agency sign a concept? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So this is November nineteenth, when the News publishes, Oh
we're also recording on November nineteenth. Go to the Hollywood Reporter, folks,
you will find an article by Alex Weeprinten or Weaperon
which says the Pamagiano Reggiano Consortium has revealed that United
Talent Agency has signed the governing body for and this
(04:14):
is a quote, the King of Cheeses to get placed
in films, TV shows and streaming projects across the globe.
So it's going to be like the Wayne's World scene
where they're drinking what was it PEPSI.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Mm hmm, yeah, man, Why do people just they're always
selling out? You know, people doesn't do stuff as you
pay them money.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's really sad. So picture that but with like a
wheel of parmesan, and Dana Carvey says, why are people
selling out?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Sorry, we're uh, we're towards the end of the year.
Does parmesan really need the help? It seems like its
reputation sort of precedes it, you know, especially the you
see it. You you go to the store, you see
the giant wheels, the unattainable wheels, and know that he
only gets your little chunk, you know, for twenty bucks
or whatever. I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Have you ever gotten pizza, Well, then you know parmesan.
It's in that little glass thing you know that has
all the parmesan in it, and more and more lately
it's in those little packets.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
You know parmesan Is that the shaky cheese you get
at the store of the craft. That's not you know,
that's a different breed of Parmesano.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And I want to point out, No, I love that
you said unattainable wheel and I think you just outlined
this amazing metaphor about the sissophia nature of existence. We
got one more heist before we get this strange news,
and that goes to none other than the Tennessee pal
As we were beginning our recording, Uh, Dylan, you revealed
(05:49):
to us that someone had their driveway stolen.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
What Yeah, someone at their driveway stolen overnight. This headline
is stolen driveway leaves women on Rocky Road as she
tries to find out.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Not the ice cream?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, so crazy as a.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Real who done it?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
As I gotta know local reeltor. She was trying to
flip a house and resell it. Potential buyers and their
agent called Batten to notify her that something was missing
from the home.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So like they picked it up and then took it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
There was a truck with a trailer, a dump truck
and a king cab truck hauling a back hoe and
they just I guess they just took it.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Was this a Was this an elaborate prank? Like, I
don't why would one do this? It seems like there
are easier ways to get concrete.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
The owner thinks it might have been a mistake, but
it seems like something that you wouldn't mistake a whole driveway, you.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Know, repossessing the driveways for non payments. Did we steal
a driveway?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No, we mistakenly took another driveway, which, by the way,
was very hip hop of us.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
So I plead the fifth element. It'd be ashamed of
something happened to that driveway year.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I plead the fifth element of hip hop.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's for like twelve people.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
WHOA, I know that movie.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's a movie.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I'm trying to imagine the conversation of the like the
crew that was out there. I'm like, all right, guys,
I know this is a crazy job, but we got
to take this driveway. That's what boss said. So lifting
it up.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And the guy with the backo was like, what last job?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm twelve with it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I love when somebody says what last job? So right
in with your best write in or call in with
your best version of that. Folks, we gotta pause for
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little bit of trade craft, some weird investment things, some
first kisses actually. But before we get to any of that,
when we return, we have some raccoon news.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Raccoon newss okay, and we have returned guys.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Remember raccoons.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, those little fellas, the cute faces and creepy hands.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, they're always scheming. In a recent episode of Ridiculous History,
we covered the idea of raccoons as invasive species in
Japan and how they're different from the tanuki. Uh spoiler Uh.
The tanuki balls is a thing like the scrotum sack
(08:49):
of the tanuki is.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's like that's they're like the Harlem globe trotter. They
can just summon tools and implements from the scrotus. Yeah,
they can convert them to parachutes, you know, flying devices,
use them as lassus.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yes, yeah, you get in situations, right, Matt, Are you
familiar with us the tanuki balls thing?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And no I in my recollection of tanuki they can
turn into stone if you hold down and get the
B button right, and then I think they can flip
their tails and let you hover a little bit, or
at least a glide.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah, slowly glide down, not really lean.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Into the ball sack factor.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In the Mario universe, they weren't there yet. The video
game techn the public wasn't ready. It could also be there.
We are.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, they're too far ahead of their type.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So we have a longstanding fascination with the concept of domestication.
Very few animals, non human animals have been domesticated. Do
check out our early your episodes on things like Life
after Humans, our conversations about the Fennik fox experiment to
(10:08):
domesticate the fox back in Russia. Now, as we as
we learned recently thanks to Scientific American shout out to
the journalist Marina Wang, raccoons in urban environments are showing
early signs of domestication.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
We're an audio podcast right now, So just so you're.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Not hard, no matter nodding so hard, because we've been
waiting for the wide eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There's a massive influx of human beings that have raccoons
just hanging out in their house. Yes, and like, and
they seem super chill. They were living in my house recently.
I'm actually having to get a tiny part of my
roof taken out because raccoons had been living in there
apparently for years before I moved in, and the previous
(11:01):
owners didn't even know about it or care, I guess,
but they just were hanging out in this little piece
of roof.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah. Oh man, I hope it goes well, and I
hope they're not harming you and your loved ones. Are
They just sort of sneaking and scheming and like doing
weird stuff with their little hands.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Exactly rubbing them together in anticipation.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I'm not kidding. So the way I found out is
that they were They would climb up my patio and
then climb up to the roof of that patio.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Bit of a shimmy, but you would catch them.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
They would just be sitting there, just standing on the patio,
just going huh yeah, and then just climb right up,
just like not scared anything, not worried about you.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I'm pretty certain I mentioned this in the pot, But
I grew up with a guy whose parents worked in
animal conservation and they had a pet raccoon that they
you know, a house, a house raccoon. Uh, this is
this is weird.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
A group of raccoons is called a gaze.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It's a weird one.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So it's a gaze of raccoons. And our longtime friend
of the show, Hally Frye, for for some time she
had a gaze of raccoons in her backyard. And there's something,
there's something strange here because we know, okay, we know
cats domesticated themselves. We know the human and the dog
(12:25):
sort of co domesticated each other another, right, yeah, and
of course casts.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Didn't need us for a damn thing. That tracks no,
right exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And we also so what do we mean when we
say that raccoons are showing early signs of domestication. Well,
we know that there are certain traits that would typically
be juvenile traits for a mammal that carry on into adulthood.
So a recent study found that the raccoons are getting
(13:02):
shorter snouts, smaller heads, bigger floppy ears, retaining fur, and
also losing apprehension toward human presence. I think it's I
think it's kind of nuts because if we go to
the University of Arkansas, a little rock we'll see the
biologist Raphaelia Lesh, who led the study. She says it
(13:26):
goes back to the trash quote. One thing about us
humans is that wherever we go, we produce a lot
of trash.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
About the quality of the trash? Ben is it getting
better there?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I don't know, you guys, it better trash. That's our
other tagline, better trash. So the issue here is that
similar to the first wolves that learn to acclimate to humans, right,
even similar to the rat, which is a different conversation.
(13:58):
I guess the rat who benefits as an omnivorous scavenger
from the presence of human beings. And look, make no mistake, folks,
if you haven't seen a raccoon in real life, they
are way faster than they appear. They are way more agile.
They look like chonky boys, but they will straight up
(14:19):
howls a trash can and then fly across a tree.
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They don't look like they're as agile like if you
see one up close and in person, especially if you
see the videos of the raccoons that hang out in
houses on TikTok, you know those are some chunks, some chalkers.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's like a sumo wrestler suddenly doing parkouraly, which is
no ding on sumo wrestlers are.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They're light on their feet despite their chunk. That's sort
of part of the deal is you got to be
a little bit fleet footed, and uh, there's a balletic
quality to good suma athletic.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we know now that this may function as a
parable in the future. Right, the fact that the anthrops
scene or the age of the human is affecting so
many environments. You guys know, I'm trying to be more
positive right toward the end of the year, so you
(15:22):
can do it, thanks, man. I'm thinking that it is
possible we may reach a new renaissance of domestication, right,
what about raccoons becoming domesticated? What about our meadillos, opossums,
maybe even congress.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Well it's funny too, because I mean it takes some
time for signs of domestication. I mean it is a
it's a form of evolution, right, I mean to actually
clock real change. I mean typically that doesn't happen in
the span of one human lifetime.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Right. Yeah, Yeah, that's a great way to put it,
because typically evolution is evolution is like a brute force hack. Right.
Not everything is going to work, and a lot of
mistakes will be made, so there will be a mutation
or an environmental pressure that ninety nine percent of the
time is terrible. Every so often you win the lottery,
(16:16):
you get stuff like thumbs, right, or you get stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Like chromatophores in the octopus.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You have something like your first kiss, which is an
awkward segue. But do you guys remember your first kiss?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's okay if you don't want to talk about it. Yeah,
but now I can remember a time in my life
where it occurred, but I don't know that I have
a distinct memory of the very first one. I do
cool too, Ah, love it.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You keep your secrets to you, So that's what you
said to her. I think everybody has or I hope,
we hope everybody has a meaningful moment like that in
your life.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And of course, as we get towards the end of
the year, we tend to become a little more nostalgic.
We tend to reflect a bit on the past and
maybe think about the future. And so it may be
this is not breaking news, perhaps, but it's just something
nice we wanted to share with everybody. On November nineteenth,
(17:22):
the University of Oxford and the Florida Institute of Technology
published a paper that says, yes, we found something like
the first kiss. It dates back twenty one million years.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Wow right, Yeah, it's funny too. You ever think about,
like just the nature of what a kiss is.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Like.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It's one of those things where someone had to be
the first one to like do that odd, slightly odd
thing that we now accept as a normal, you know,
sign of affection.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's very weird. I'm confused. It's my understanding that a
kiss is a little thing that you put on your
thumb when you're sewing.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I thought that was called a thimble. Oh yeah, so
with uh, let's continue the sewing circle. I like this, So, uh,
kissing is a very weird thing, right. If we remove
ourselves we are extra terrestrials or extra dimensional entities, and
we go to terra, we go to planet Earth, and
we see people who really like each other just smacking
(18:28):
their mouths on each other's mouths, then we would say, why,
what gives? Apparently it predates Homo sapiens. Apparently it is
proven to exist in earlier primates and apes, and as
well it existed in Neanderthals. We know that Neanderthal and
(18:52):
modern humans probably kissed if we could tell this because
there's shared oral microbes and also there's evidence of you know,
aggressive inter breeding and folks with that we uh, we'd
love to hear if you have a great kissing story,
And guys, I'd also like to think about what other
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human actions are currently normalized but seem very weird to
an outsider, Like hugging is a kiss is a hug
with your mouth.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Right, and a dream is a wish your heart makes.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, so what's another what are some more human acting hands?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But it also is you know, it's a similar thing
where it's sort of like, let my human part interact
and touch in a familiar way your human part and
the mouth I guess is just you know, it's it's
much more close and personal and involves swapping fluids, which
is a sign of trust maybe, right. I don't know,
(19:58):
like if you if you want to boil it down
beyond just what the any titillating aspects of it, like
what does it represent?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
It's about as close as you can get to somebody
pre like you know, procreating.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, it's an exchange of chemical information for sure. Right
to put it in cold scientific terms, it's it's also
not feeding each other, right, it's not regurgitating food, which
is a big difference.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And it's making me think about Pluribus. I just watched
the first two episodes.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
What do you think, man.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Just talking about kissing over here?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Okay, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's in that Not to spoil anything in that show,
but what it represents in that show is an outreach
and a positive interaction, right.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Or well, it's a transfer.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's a transfer, but it's also it's hidden within this
familiar kind of act of kindness of like, you know,
reaching out and showing that I see you, and like
I want to commune with you in some way, not
igu I see you. That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
One last thing, folks, before we moved to our next act.
The Cambridge Dictionary has published their word of the Year.
Can we guess? I think we all saw the notes,
but can we guess?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Oh gosh, we kind of went through the brain rot
stuff last year.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, what would it be?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm guessing maybe something related to politics.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't know. I'm judges. We'll accept it. The Cambridge
Dictionary Word of the year as of November eighteenth, the
day before we recorded this is parasocial. Oh we use
it all the time. Yeah, an imaginary kiss to someone
you haven't met or maybe briefly met. I don't know, man,
(21:53):
We talked about parasocial, We talked about words well pretty
often on the show six seven as a phrase had
its time in the sun. We're in active conversations with
our pal Michael Render and Ramsey yun to over at
conversate to make that a word, to get it in
the in the OED in the Oxford English Dictionary. And
(22:15):
I got to ask you, guys, what do you think
is that a good word to.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Be the word of the year.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I don't quite understand why it's only just popping up
this year. We've been talking about parasocial relationships for you know,
a long long time. Comes up with podcasts all the times,
This idea that it's someone that you spend time with
you don't actually know. What do you think? What do
you think the news hook is? Guys? Why is it
particularly zeitgeisty? At least according to the Cambridge.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Folks, it may be partially due to to your question.
The zeitgeisty question. It may be partially due to the
American deification of celebrities like Taylor Swift and you know
her boo thing the guy she kisses guy named Travis kelcey,
but you absolutely nail the guy. The term dates back
(23:01):
to nineteen fifty six. The definition is a relationship felt
by someone between themselves and then a public figure they
don't personally know. The chief editor over there at Cambridge
is a guy named Colin McIntosh, and he said, look,
this was an academic word for a long time. It
(23:22):
was confined to the academic sphere for quite some time,
but now it has made a shift into popular language.
It's one of those words that may have been influenced
by social media well.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
For sure, but I think that's been happening for a
long time. I bet given a little time, we could
come up with some more relevant words. And I feel
like we've been saying parasocial for a long time. And
maybe where I'm coming of this from a place of
our you know, participation in social media and podcasting, and
maybe it's a little more bubble. But yeah, can you
guys think of any more relevant words?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, Matt, you got one, I've got one.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, here's the question. Can be word of the year,
be a phrase or like two words with one yes
meaning yes.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I mean it depends on whether it's Cambridge or oed
or Webster Merriam, but yes.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Basically, Okay, well I think the phrase of the year
is circular investment.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Now that's what we call a segue. We're gonna pause
for a word from our sponsors and we'll be back
with more strange news.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
All right, and we have returned with some more of
the strangest of news is I'm gonna lead with a
quick one that's fun. The story itself, I don't know
is that if it's that interesting, but it led me
down an interesting rabbit hole. A bar owner in the
UK in Altrisham, Greater Manchester has made a little bit
(24:53):
of a kerfuffle there locally by banning solo drinkers from
his establishment to place Russians. Me sure, yeah, yeah, and Matt,
well we're going to get to Russians in a minute.
But yeah, just the idea of like an individual showing
up to the bar without a group and you know,
(25:16):
siling up to the bar and you know, having a
few adult beverages without any company. The owner of a
cocktail in karaoke bar where solo drinkers are banned. This
is from the BBC says he is baffled by the
furior it has caused on social media, as the policy
is for the safety of all guests. Guy Carl Peters
(25:37):
said that the no single intrigue policy set after what's
twenty one hundred hours, y'all? I'm so bad at the
old twenty four hour clock nine pm? Nine pm? That
would be nine pm, got it? So after nine subtract
Well that's right, yeah, for sure. So after nine pm,
no one is allowed to come into this place on
his on their own. Peters told the BBC that it
(25:59):
was to mi to gate risk and protect his customers
from being quote mitherd, I love a Mithard mitherd. Y'all
solo drinkers. We're gonna get to that in a minute.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Also, it sounds like something happened, well it which it
does sound like that because his example is pretty specific.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Okay. He says there are two reasons that he introduced
the policy. Firstly, if someone on their own has a
seizure or an accident with no one with them quote
in a late night busy bar environment, it is an
absolute nightmare for us to deal with. Gonna guess that
something like this has happened a time or two. He
also noted that sometimes if you let people in on
(26:38):
their own, the reason why they're on their own is
that they don't have any friends. So there they begin
mithering the other.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Groups mithering, mithering, one of the boy or boys? What
is what we do?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
We'll get to what we do as a venue is
we just eliminate that unless you're with a group, and
we know who you're with, then you're not coming in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Peters added that he.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Took pride that his customers felt safe in his establishment
and was astounded that he got such pushback on social media,
with some people just saying that it was a discriminatory policy.
I guess if you could certainly look at it as
like he is discriminating against the friendless, you know, which,
which is certainly a group, y'all. And I actually saw
a thing pop up on social media earlier today about
(27:22):
the psychology of friendlessness.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go back and look.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Into that because I oh true, Yeah, for sure, I
think it's around a study that just came out.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I'd love to read it. This also reminds me of
of restaurant culture in places like South Korea, where I
could I could totally see a bar there or even
a restaurant there say Nope, you got to move in
a group.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
He can't be here solo. They do move in herds.
It's true. And actually I realized now that what I
saw was a video on YouTube on the Brain Snack
to Go channel called Psychology of People that Have No Friends.
So I'm gonna go back and give that one a look. See.
But yes, Matt, you did ask the twenty thousand pound question,
which is what is mithering? I think we could probably
(28:11):
use context clues and figure that out. It's just the
idea of bugging somebody. If you're a solo drinker, you
didn't come with any pals, you get a few in you,
maybe you start wandering around to other groups like our
buddy Cuba Gooding Junior. Just gonna leave that one on
the table there with no context. But that is a
thing that happened to Ben and I. We were mithered
by and he was solo drinking. And you know, if
(28:35):
anyone spent any amount of time in these late night
drinking establishments, I think we've probably all seen folks having
a bit of a bad time because of being harassed
by people who are there alone and maybe have don't
have anybody looking out for them to tell them they've
maybe had enough. That is technically the bartender's responsibility. But
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you know, these people are busy, They're serving a lot
of folks and they can certainly fall through the cracks
in a very very busy night of customers.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Or they're not fluent in social cues right just to
get away from any intoxicating substance. It's fair to say
not to be too Alice and the looking glass here,
but I think it's fair to say that a lot
of people have been on both sides of the mither there.
You know, like you were saying, Noel, you might have
(29:26):
a little bit of what we used to call Dutch
courage and walk into a crew and say do the
thing where everybody's laughing, and then you walk in while
everybody's laughing and you also laugh.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, and then they're like, here, eat this chicken wing.
I don't think people hate that.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I think it kind of works unless you do the
Cuba gooding junior chicken.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It depends y'all.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
It absolutely is about reading social.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Cues, and you know, people talk about bars as being
a place where you can meet friends. I think we
recently saw a study or a social media influence or something.
I know what I just did. I equated social media
influencers with studies, not the same thing. But I saw
something recently about an individual encouraging folks to get off
the apps and start just going to bars where you
(30:12):
can actually meet actual human beings. There are some issues
with that, of course, in this are me too age
where I think a lot of folks are worried or
freaked out about being mischaracterized as creepy or approaching somebody
you know, without being invited as that being perhaps an
unwonted advance, or being misconstrued as that. So I think
(30:34):
there are certain folks that maybe shy away from this
kind of IRL interaction for those very reasons. So I'm
on the fence as to whether this is a good
rule or a bad rule. I think we've talked about
both sides of it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I would just say I think it is a good rule,
but not for the reasons that were stated there by
the bartender. Okay, I think you can help prevent somebody
from becoming a victim of let's say, a predator who's
going to a bar, either alone or with a bunch
of other people who were hunting right, and they are
attempting to maybe drug somebody, which we know is a
(31:06):
thing that occurs all the time. If you're there all alone,
you were probably way more likely. I don't know if
that's true or not, but I would assume you're more
likely to be targeted, and you wouldn't have somebody who's
watching your back there while you're at the bar, watching
your drink or something like that.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Brother, You're so not wrong. And I'm not sure if
I've mentioned this on the show or not, but there
was one time I was solo traveling internationally and I
was drinking by myself at a little pub near my hotel, thankfully,
and ninety eight percent certain that somebody put something in
my drink because I felt all of a sudden very disoriented,
and there was an individual who was trying to sell
(31:43):
me you illegal substances, and I got up and walked
away for a minute. When I came back, he made
a little comment about how you shouldn't walk away from
your drink buddy, almost like threatening, And that's when I left,
and as I was walking back to my hotel, I
started realizing that someone I think i'd been. Yes, it's
a good point matter, and I do think that is
a reason this might.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Be a decent policy. Yeah, yeah, I'm ninety eight percent
sure you knew exactly who that person was. Did you
reach out to me?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I did know. I knew who the person was. It
was that guy who was being weird and threatening. But
I'm just saying if I, thankfully I was not away
far far away from my home base and it was
within walkings or stumbling distance, but that could have gone
very poorly if I had been in an unsafe, isolated
situation in an unfamiliar place.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So how do you enforce this, then, is my question
for all of us in the audience tonight, Because the
clear easy loophole, for I don't like the characterization of
solo drinkers as friendless automatically, but the clear easy loophole
is for the solo folks to meet outside and then
(32:53):
just walk in as a unit, and then they just
don't have to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Well yeah, I mean, it's not like they can check
your friendals or ask you like where did you meet,
did you go to grade school together? Whatever, Like they
can't really go that far. But yeah, there is a
sign it says here entrance policy no single entry after
nine pm. Alibi does not permit single entry. If you
are with guests already inside the venue, please contact them
in advance. And the name of the place is Alibi.
(33:20):
That is kind of funny, So he is being accused
of this being a discriminatory policy. But back to mithering.
I was absolutely, you know, intrigued by this word because
when I googled it, the only thing that came up
was this article and then this other article from the
BBC called the Quirkiest local words from around the UK.
(33:42):
And I'm gonna list of all some of these. But
mither is is something from the north, which is where
Manchester is located. Meaning to bother, so using an ascent
of stop mithering or apply to virtually everything that a
child might say, We've got Dempsey is when it's just
getting dark in the town of dev it's dimpsey out. Marty,
we know this one. I believe you might have heard.
(34:04):
Marting is something that the guy from the nineteen seventy
five said Maddie Healy.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
He accused the Gallagher brothers.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Of always marding. They're madding means like, you know, fussing
with each other, but it can also mean sulking or
being moody. Breeks is a term from Cumbria referring to trousers,
fou sies, little sweet treats you might have with tea
or coffee in Northern Ireland. And a couple of my
personal favorites twittin's meaning those tiny alleyways which go in
(34:36):
betwixt and between houses from Sussex, as well as well
as last one here stank, which is a walk. Guys.
It is a type of walk Cornish word, as in
that was a fair old stank meaning a long walk.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's cool, pretty neat.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
So yeah, check that out if you wants to as
well on the BBC the quirkiest local words from around
the UK. Guys, that yielded a lot more conversation than
I was expecting, so I'm just going to kind of
rattle off these last two really quickly. We do love
an odd heist, as we mentioned at the top of
the show and as we mentioned on just about every
Strange News when a heist is in play. Here's one
(35:14):
one of the most polite and Canadian of heist. Man
takes bus for joy ride in Canada, turns down passenger
with expired pass. Jennifer Hauser, writing for CNN, wrote, Canadian
police say a member of the public who took an
Ontario Transit bus for a joy ride with about ten
passengers still on board didn't even leave a dan. Hamilton
(35:35):
Police spokesperson Trevor McKenna told CNN affiliate CBC it's comical,
but at the same time it's serious. We're thankful nobody
was hurt. The man boarded the bus and drove away
while the real driver was taking a break. He continued
making stops, correct stops and allowing the passengers to enter
an exit. According to the Hamilton Police press release that
(35:57):
came out this week, McKenna, the spokes and said that
at first passengers were just, you know, none the wiser,
but then eventually someone realized that this individual seemed to
be making some wrong turns, at which point this person
gave them help, gave them some directions to help get
them back on track. When it was revealed this had happened,
(36:18):
the Hamilton Police decided to keep their distance rather than
cause some sort of panic in the driver. They worked
with Hamilton Street Railway, the company that runs public transit there,
to keep tabs on the bus's GPS and keep their
distance and have their sirens off. We didn't want to
spook him, McKenna said, We didn't want to make this
(36:38):
a tragedy. So after about fifteen minutes they were able
to safely stop the bus. Did I mention, Yeah, they
did turn away an individual whose bus pass had expired,
So very very polite hes the suspect, who is not
being named and is listed as having no fixed address,
which I think may be a way of referring to
an unhoused individual here in Canadian Parlia. They are being
(37:01):
charged with theft and possession over five thousand dollars, obstructing police,
and driving while prohibited uh and he will be appearing
in court to answer to the charges. I guess like
a champion, I mean truly. You know, again, it's an
easy It's a different story when nobody gets hurt, and
I have to imagine that there's some either a real
(37:22):
mischievous streak in this individual or some mental health issues
at play.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Complications it reminds me of the guy who stole a
plane for a joy ride. Didn't he did all He
didn't stick the landing, but he did a barrel roll.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
He did some loopy loops, he did some cool.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Kind of top gun stuff, and while he was in
the air, eventually he realized he had the land And
that is the tricky party.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
But what do you I mean? I know it's illegal,
but it's so wholesome, very wholesome and very polite, very Canadian.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It also runs me of that time somebody's small prop
plane was being boosted.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And secretly they kept cigarette butts and stuff in it
or whatever, ultimately taking care.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Of Yeah, they did the maintenance. You know. It's kind
of like, uh, for people who are fancy pants and
get valet parking. It's kind of like when the valet says, oh,
this is a cool car and they drive it around
the block a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Take it for a ride around the block. Nothing wrong
with that, No, there is something wrong with that. Your
plead your ord.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Uh my client pleads that this was wholesome and dope
and he should be And the judge is like, uh,
boom with the gavel and says, you know what you're
sentenced to being an actual city bus driver. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Wow, when you put it like that, Shout out to
all the folks out there working for public transit though
and getting getting people where they're going on time. We
very much appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Wait, are you working for public transit? Bend huh. Ben's
a secret buster is the way he said, thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Was taking this as an opportunity to take all our
friends out there who you know, who were driving the
buses and piloting the subways and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Piloting the subways, the subways, unatatable wheel piloting the subway. Okay,
all right, I appreciate it that I'm doing my best,
trying to use my words. I will wrap up today
with just a mention. We recently talked about some.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Of the underwhelming results we're seeing from some of these
humanoid robots here in the US, as they're being trotted
out literally on stage, not doing the best of jobs,
showing us the advancements that we think maybe should have
occurred in the time since we've seen all those really
incredible bust and dynamic robots. This phenomenon is also taking
(39:50):
place in Russia, where a startup company made a big
to do in presenting a an AI powered robot with
a absolutely horrific humanoid faces in a rictus grimace. It's very,
very upsetting. So the further country's first humanoid robot, as
reported by the Russian publication Medusa, uses AI technology and
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was unveiled at your recent technology conference in Moscow. Video
of the event really went viral for all the wrong
reasons as the robot named idol aid L hobbled on
stage accompanied by two humans to the tune of Gonna
Fly Now, the main theme from Rocky, which just added
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to the insult to the injury, and then promptly fell
toppled over directly on its face. I put a link
in the chat guys if we want to just watch
it together really quickly and in comment before we pop
to the next segment. Here we go, guys, step.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
For a robot followed by one giant face plan.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
So tenuous, this tiny little steps. He raises his alarm
and then oh no, he looks dru Oh god, and
then they have to literally drag him off stage as
they cover it. I'm calling him him with a curtain
so no one can.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
See the horror.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
The horror you guys. I don't know, man, it's not
too far off from the kind of things we're seeing
from Tesla. I just it just made me chuckle a
little bit. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah? Oh, wait, no, The Daily Show puts something out
with that, and it was they did one of those
where it's like a viral video or something, and then
they put text over different characters in the viral video,
and that character in the video is supposed to represent
something else, and I think it was something about, uh,
(41:51):
the current administration attempting to avoid the Epstein stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Shout out to the open AI guy. By the way,
no doubt just skid autled.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Some of the comments on the YouTube posts of this
video are pretty priceless. Just left a Russian bar. The
Russians couldn't even get the closing curtain right just in
the war. Now the curtain is the best part, no doubt,
as they try to cover him.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Let's see robot is fueled with vodka.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You can see it the way it quote unquote moves
robots after a shift at Amazon. Russians playing the Rocky
theme is another level of irony, because was it the
big bad in one of the Rocky movies like a
mega Iron Curtain kind of esque, you know, Russian villain.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, I wish it was a big robot though, maybe
we do a Rocky versus robots we.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Must, Yeah, hopefully it's in the word.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I'd also love for us to do an episode just
on the latest evolutions and I'm using that word carefully
in robotic technology, especially the humanoid stuff. Chia is at
the forefront right now, and we had a story that
we're not going to get to today with the idea
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of pre crime and the optimist robot. But yeah, interesting
times to live in.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
And last one, at least it didn't rip its own
head off like in RoboCop. I don't remember what happened
to that effect in RoboCop, but it's making me want
to revisit that movie. So yeah, we're going to take
a break here, have a little word from our sponsor,
and then come back with the last segment in Today's
Strange News episode.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And we've returned, guys, we're gonna have another update to
a little thing that we talked about in twenty twenty three. Ben,
I think you talked about it. Maybe I know you've
at least updated us several times on strange news over
the years since August twenty twenty three. But it is
a raid on a small town Kansas newspaper there in
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Marion County. It happened in August twenty twenty three. Then
we talked about an update where the police chief that
ran the small raid ended up getting suspended. Then we
talked about a couple other major updates to the court
case that has essentially been going on since then because
the county was being sued by the private homeowners whose
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houses got raided, who were also the people who worked
at and ran the newspaper there. Well, we've got another update, guys.
There's a settlement of some sort. We're jumping to ap
news from November eleventh, twenty twenty five. I was just
going to read directly from it. A rural Kansas county
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Marion County has agreed to pay around three million dollars
and apologize right over a law enforcement rate in a
small town weekly newspaper back in August twenty twenty three.
That sparked a bunch of news and an outcry. The
apology's got to be the part that hurts the worst.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well, the apology is worth its waiting goal. Yeah, and Matt,
was this the decision of a group of rural Gerbers.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, we did it, guys, we finally did it.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
We got it.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
We got there. I got there. That's why we started
this show.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
We always said, once it happens, and we would have
accomplished our goals and we could really be done.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
It's it's our nine billion names of God or whatever
that story is.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
You also sounded sober as a judge when you said that,
which is no small feat. Yeah, okay, sober as a judge.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Is that an idiom?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
People say that judges be sober.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
And you said rural juror like a like a real
straight straight arrow, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I mean it's it's again, it's the it's the word
crime that we have always aimed for, say, rural juror
and bob blah blah.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Uh wait.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
So, so, the like Noel was saying, Matt, the apology
here seems to very symbolic weight, if not legal weight.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Uh yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say. So
you can look all of this up if you want to.
You right now, it's just a bit of an update. Well,
you can go to a little bit of it because
if you'll recall, this occurred in a weird way where
there was there was some local what would you call it,
guys politics issues between the newspaper and the sheriff's office
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and the local police the I guess the city police
there in Marion County or in the city, and the
sheriff's office helped to draft the search warrants that allowed
the city cops to go into the newspaper's offices and everything,
but then also go to the publisher's house and to
I think a council a council member's house, a local
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city council member. And when all of that was occurring,
there was a ninety eight year old woman there, the
mother of one of the people that was being targeted.
She had a heart attack and died as a result
of all the hubbub and everything that was going on
when the house is getting raided. I think that or
it seems to be that the apology is probably more
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in that realm, like, hey, we didn't mean to hurt anybody.
We were trying to do our job or that kind
of thing. But also, oh, we did the wrong thing here,
and we went about this the wrong way, and that's
why we're going to pay three million dollars. Whow okay,
yeah again, read all about it. The estate of the
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woman who died is going to receive one million of
that money, which is pretty great. Actually, let's go here
to the judgment just to learn where that money's going.
The estate of Meyer's mother, the woman who died, is
going to receive one million dollars. Meyer, two former record reporters,
and the paper's business manager are going to split one
point one million dollars. And then the former city council member,
(47:58):
Ruth herbel is her name, She's going to receive six
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It's pretty great. And she's
she's talking about creating some kind of fund to make
sure the paper gets to stay alive. I like that,
isn't that cool?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
That's great, that's a good So.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
That's better than putting a quantitative price on a human
life for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
And now, by the way, that paper was known for
really sticking it to the man in the county, so
like it's kind of cool to have that kind of thing.
You know, you got the fourth estate there for a reason,
to try and keep everybody as honest as possible. Speaking
of Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Matt, I gotta say it's refreshing hearing it referred to
as the fourth estate the press, as we tend to
hear it more referred to as the fake news media lately.
So I hadn't even thought about that phrase, and it
gives it such reverence that I think is one that
it absolutely deserves. So thank you well.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
It only exists in that way as that thing theoretically.
Sometimes it functions as such. Other times it just doesn't
go so great for the journals. They all try. We try,
everyone tries.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
The current president, in speaking with the leadership of the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia regarding journalism, simply said, things happen.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
And then sometimes the wrong people get wind and then
talk about it in their dirty newspaper.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
And I'm sure all right, shout out to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Oh okay. So let us jump to a little more
recent news that was a while back, November eleventh. This
is November eighteenth, yesterday, as we were recording This is
NBC News, written by Jared Perlow p E. R.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
L O.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Here's the title. AI generated evidence is showing up in court.
Judges say they're not ready. This is a very very
long article, guys. I'm just going to give you the
highlights here. There's a judge named Victoria Kolakowski and and
she's serving in this case titled Mendones versus Cushman and
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Wakefield Incorporated. And she notices as they're going through the evidence,
as it's being presented to the court, that there's something
a little off with this Exhibit six C. Specifically, it's
a video of a witness, but it's kind of strange.
It was submitted by the plaintiffs. It's California housing dispute,
and it showed this witness who they had seen before.
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This witness had appeared in another authentic piece of evidence,
So this is somebody the court has seen before. Does
that make sense? The judges see and the suri has
seen this person, yes, but in video form. The judge
noticed that the voice was all weird, disjointed is how
Jared describes it. Monotone. Her face was fuzzy, and it
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seemed to be lacking emotion, and then every few seconds
she would kind of twitch and then repeat the emotions
she had been doing before outside of the verbal stuff.
So the nonverbal movements on the camera, so then the
judge realized, holy crap, I think this, this is a
deep fake video being presented as evidence by the plaintiffs.
(51:17):
So she said, hold up, hold up, we're not going
to do this. Actually, we're going to dismiss this whole case.
This is done. You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Oh my gosh, bet that's going to be such a
problem moving forward, Like.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
This technology always outpaces legislation.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Well not only that, but it's just like even being
able to spot it. And then if there's even suspicion
then a thing is a deep fake. It could cause
all kinds of problems for the defense and that or
the prosecution.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Right, yeah, And it seems like this is only one
of the first cases of this. It's one of the
first cases where a plaintiff is put forward, you know,
evidence fully, like, here is evidence for the court and
it is a deep fake video. Seems weird.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
It was.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
It was according to them, it was real, one hundred
percent genuine article. This is a real video of a
real witness. And then it was up to the judge
to figure it out and say, no, we can't do this.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah. The judge is like, hey, I know this character
from an earlier episode essentially right, this is one of
the this is a time that this was identified and adjudicated. Right,
But this may not necessarily be the first time something
like this was entered into evidence and passed the smell test, because.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Does that mean that maybe there could become a rash
of cases getting overturned down the line if things are
re examined.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
So the way this article puts it, Previously, the big
problem was people on one side of the case would
allege that the other side was presenting deep faked evidence
or hey, that video was deep faked, so, you know,
attempting to get evidence thrown out. In this case, it's
just the judge realizing that the wool is being pulled
(53:02):
over eyes here, and we don't want this to occur
because this is a court of law.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
Do you see what I mean?
Speaker 6 (53:07):
Though?
Speaker 4 (53:07):
Like I mean, we keep hearing about like haybeas corpus
briefs being filed or maybe that's the wrong term, but
the idea of reassessing a case after someone's already been
convicted and having it thrown out after the fact, don't
you start to think we're going to start seeing people
like as time progresses and this technology is more like
accepted to have been possibly on the table.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
People are going to start doing that.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Obviously the technology didn't exist for like legacy old cases
for that to really come into play, but it is
going to change things up moving forward.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, I things are gonna get real weird in the courts.
That that thing we described by the way, where one
side of the court, you know, lodges an allegation that
this is a defake video that is has a cool
phrase for it. It's called Liar's Dividend.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Liar's Dividend. Oh my gosh, you guys, that was the
name of our first album.
Speaker 4 (53:58):
Sounds like a gamble game you'd play in the Old West,
you know.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, right, check out our check out our breakout signal
Rural Juror, which I think was in the Billboard top
forty eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
So guys, this is one of the crazy things. Two points.
Metadata is one of the only reasons that this video
was proven to be fake because in the metadata it
said the video was taken on an iPhone six, like
captured with an iPhone six, But because of the timeline
of this case when things occurred, it was not possible.
(54:36):
What do they say here, This is a dreg quote
from the article, the court found the metadata of one
of the purportedly real but deep faked videos show that
the plaintiffs video was captured on an iPhone six, which
was impossible given that the plaintiff's argument required capabilities only
available on an iPhone fifteen or newer.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Oh rookie mistake.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
But isn't that interesting that just that one little slip up.
It feels to me like courts will have to have
some kind of appointed person that is an expert of
a technological expert, and someone can discover during that discovery
process if anything has been generated it.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
That's right, But we've talked about this too, like it
mean you almost have to go step further than that.
But it would be really hard to enforce having some
sort of watermark on footage that was created organically, like
through a lens, or having some way to distinguish between
the two. Because we've got ai quote unquote experts. It's
a field that's relatively new. To your point about the
forensic aspect of it, it's still the rules are being written.
(55:42):
They're not able to tell the difference between the fake
clip and the real clip. A lot of these experts now.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Yeah, Yeah, there was a study we were talking about
off air, I can't remember if it made it onto
the show regarding the average human beings inability now to
differentiate between the unquote real stuff and the quote unquote
fake stuff. Historically here in the United States, that role
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of like forensic it would be divided between the prosecution
and the defense, like the It's on the different teams
to pay for the cost of that and to have
the awareness to engage with it. But I agree with you, Matt,
it would be cool and it'd be a very smart
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move to have someone who is not on either side,
just like sitting by the judge and going, that's not
really spider Man. Spider Man is actually a made up
character from a comic book, so there's no way he
could have driven that pass for that.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Long case closed, this case is dismissed. Well, yeah, I
do agree with you guys. I think there's gonna have
to be something like that, especially with the push that's
happening for all this AI stuff, which brings us to
the last quick thing I want to mention here today,
as we're recording on Wednesday, November nineteenth, in Vidia is
(57:06):
putting out it's Q three earnings, which it is crazy
to know that that one company is essentially the thing
upon which all of the AI bubble currently blows. So
all the circular investing, all the super hyped folks on X,
(57:28):
all the folks that are just so excited about AI,
everything rests on how in Nvidia is doing and what
people think about how Nvidia is doing.
Speaker 4 (57:38):
It's because they make the products that drive the AI.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
They make the actual equipment.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
In a way, they make part of the equipment that
will eventually be the old parts. Like anybody who has
ever built a PC of any form before knows you've
got a little bit of time before those parts aren't
good anymore. Hey, which means they're gonna have to build
more AY and people are gonna have to buy more.
So maybe that's great. Maybe we all just create chips
(58:08):
and build more data centers from now until eternity.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Until the water runs out. So weirdly, we are investors
across the world and we run to this company and
we say, oh, I've got all these eggs, and Nvidia says, great,
we've got one basket.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, this is it's insane what humanity is doing right now. Guys,
We're just putting that out there. I am looking at
three charts here, guys, just because of what's occurring. The
first one is the the Nvidia stock price, which you
if you go back to twenty twenty three, was worth
around fifteen dollars at clothes on this one day. I'm
(58:48):
looking at it twelve twenty six, twenty twenty two. It
is currently worth one hundred and eighty four dollars as
we're recording this per share. You can look at that
crazy art and the way that it goes up. You
can see the difference between what it was at and
all the hype people functioning. I'm also looking at Palenteer.
(59:10):
I'm looking at a five year range here. At Palenteer
twenty twenty three was worth about six dollars or forty
cents per share, currently worth about one hundred and sixty
four dollars per share. Also looking at bitcoin, guys, anybody
watching bitcoin?
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah, it sucks. It's tanking right now. Yeah, yeah, it's
you know, it's a correction. I'm sorry, it's well, we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
It's the if you look at those three charts overlaid,
it's the exact same thing. Twenty twenty three worth seventeen
thousand dollars per bitcoin currently worth ninety four thousand, ninety
five thousand.
Speaker 4 (59:49):
Well, and it was above one hundred, and the fact
that it dropped below one hundred is the big like
red flag.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the story that all of this
goes back to and is connected to you comes from
CNN Business, written by Alison Morrow on November eighteenth, yesterday,
as we record why some elite investors are turning on
the darling of the AI rally. This is about in video,
which makes up currently eight percent of the total value
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of the S and P five hundred, those five hundred
companies that are the big boys. It makes up eight
percent of that thing, which is egregious.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
By the way, folks, Yes, but it's all shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, but it also makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
The net income annual net income of Nvidia group more
than five hundred and eighty percent between twenty twenty three
and twenty twenty four. Now, is that because of all
the amazing things they're doing or is it because of
that hype that investor hype and what they're doing there
and then.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
The Ponzi scheme of circular investing. Yes, I love that
you're bringing up that term. We talk a little bit
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
We do need to talk a little bit about that,
but first let's talk about the things that are happening,
and then why that thing is important that you've been so.
Peter Teal, you know him, Yeah, anti anti technology, anti
Christ guy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Let's text them.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Let's text him now, just an emoji, just to get
him with an emoji.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
This this week, as we're recording, it was made known
that at some point in Q three of twenty twenty five,
Peter Teal, the hedge fund that he runs, sold the
entire stake that it held in Nvidia, all five hundred
and thirty seven seven hundred and forty two shares worth
around one hundred million dollars. So he got out of
in Nvidia, which is kind of a crazy thing considering
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who he is and what he's into. And then this
other thing. Soft Bank just made an announcement that it
sold all of its in Vidia holdings worth around five
point eight billion. Now soft Bank says, well, that's to
invest in other AI stuff. So they're just taking it
out of in Video's AI hype beast thing and putting
(01:02:02):
it into a different one. Uh, then the last one,
which is really interesting. Here, guys, a dude named Michael Burry.
Do we remember who Michael Burry is?
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I remember the name the other Warren Buffett.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Did we ever see a movie called The Big Short?
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I do recall The Big Short.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yes, Michael Burry is the guy from The Big Short
who realized, oh, there's a housing bubble and I need
to make put options on this housing market.
Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Well who played him?
Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Was it Christian Bale?
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Christian Bale played Michael Burry?
Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
He is also getting out of Nvidia by putting put
options on the company. He's also putting put options on Palanteer.
Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
He the options meaning you're basically betting that the stock
will go down.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yes, but by a certain extent or a certain percentage
or it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Sounds like gambling stuff, guys. I mean it really always.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Has gambling it does.
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
But here, to me is the craziest thing. This guy,
the Big Short guy, sure put these put investments and
then he shut down his hedge fund and he said,
I no longer understand valuations in the stock market because
the valuations are no longer make rational sense according to
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the metrics that are generally used that like Harvard Business
School tells you how to valuate the company. That's not
how it works, no more. It don't work like that
no more. Now it's just what do we all believe? Guys?
Is it this thing?
Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Whoa right?
Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
And who gets stuck in the stone chair at the end? Right?
Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
How do we surf the wave?
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
How do we ride the bubble before it pops on us?
Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It's sorry, guys, I'm just putting that out there because
it's insane. It feels like we're all caught in some
kind of collective hallucinations. Yeah, but a hallucination about what
we want future to be and somehow.
Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
We sign is maybe a better word for it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
It's a no win situation here, this AI thing.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It's unsustainable for sure. It's untenable as it due to
we talked about this previously, like the technology the social environment, right,
the social contract has to evolve in step with the technology.
So now, if we think about it, like assembling a
PC or a gaming rig at home, your components have
(01:04:28):
to work together, and in this case, for multiple reasons,
different components are not playing nice with each other. Right,
But the stock market is an old idea A lot
of the systems and mechanisms involved are antiquated and this
is the new new stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
I was going back to Warren Buffett for anybody who
follows the buffet, right, he is a fan of Nvidia,
but they're not investing in it. And a lot of
people are reading tea leaves over that one. Mmmmm, Warren,
(01:05:12):
why did I say his name in italics?
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Well, it should text him to send them the opposite
text them, okay, different emoji.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Well, open AI has an IPO coming, an initial public offering,
that is, you know, it's the valuation is like a
trillion dollars or something. But none of these companies are
making the money that they should be making to be
valued at that at that height, that insane level. Well,
at least the companies that are, like the software companies
(01:05:39):
right using these llms to do things or attempting to
AIFI all of the crap that you use. I like
that AI it's it's in video is the only one
that's actually producing stuff right now. You know, of all
these companies, well, there's there's they're a bunch of AI companies.
They are doing a bunch of things. But that's the
big one that's making stuff. Everybody else is trying to
(01:06:02):
find a way to make money, and it feels like
it's going to keep happening until.
Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
In Vidia makes graphics cards. I mean, they make other
computer components too. I mean, I guess I always looked
at them as at least somewhat more of a safe bed,
because they're not just you know, AI vaporware. They make
products that.
Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's what sells well. Right, But maybe maybe they shouldn't
be valued at four point five trillion dollars and maybe
their stock price should actually be around seventy five dollars maximum.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
But you know whatever, you know what we need for this, guys,
we need a city raccoon in charge of Nvidia. We
need like a schemer with little hands who's nimble. Surprisingly,
I just bring it back raccoons, because at this point,
you're right, Beaty or dillit.
Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
It is surreal.
Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
It is not tenable, it is not sustainable. There is
a horizon, and I suspect that horizon has a cliff
at the end.
Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
I guess what I'm getting at is, like, personally, investment wise,
I've always just only been comfortable investing in stuff that
makes stuff that like you know, actually has a product
or service and it isn't just like this concept that
has the potential to completely implode.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Well, I'm sitting here talking to you as a non investor.
I have not invested in any company, not a single one,
none of this stuff. I think I have a four
to h one K that runs on energy stuff that
I set up when I was a kid, you know,
because we've been working at this company for a long
long time. But what has to happen, I thank you guys,
(01:07:48):
is there has to be a major crash. And it
is horrifying because Ben, you're absolutely right, and what you
were talking about the cliff, that cliff now because in
Nvidia is so huge paleteer and all these companies are
so huge, it's going to be devastating for everybody who's invested,
for everybody who has a pension, for everybody. It's it's
just going to be it's going to be horrifying. But
(01:08:11):
it'll at least wake us up to realize, oh, this
is not the way.
Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Well, unless you think we're telling you to like divest
everything from your four oh one K or like liquidate everything,
I mean dependent advisors, certainly, Well, what I'm also saying, though,
is like, and I don't sound like the I mean,
I'm just being devil's advocate here. Is like, if you're
young enough, like you know, people that panic sell in
these situations, and that's also a way to lose everything.
(01:08:36):
But if you're young enough, these things do have a
way of ebbing and flowing, and they're called corrections for
a reason. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Yeah, it's a it's a very interesting religion the economy.
Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
And that's all I got.
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