September 22, 2025 • 62 mins
A new Brain Drain: funding cuts and political chaos cause scientists to leave the US -- and other countries love it. Wal-Mart bans an emotional support alligator. Protestors get in hot water in the UK. New Mexico may make childcare free. And one scientist may have just cracked the code on space travel. All this and more -- including the first bot minister -- in this week's strange news segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Bed. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee Hal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want
you to know. It's September twenty second as we're publishing this,
it's the seventeenth as we're recording it. Welcome to Strange
(00:51):
News Now. We wanted to We got so much stuff
to get to. This a science heavy expiration. I don't
know where we want to start. You guys, you ever
get tired of human politicians?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They're great? Ten ten, no notes, big fan.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Fully over it. Let's bring on all of the robots.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Tight. Yes, uh that is uh, that is our palm.
Matt Frederick speaking on behalf of Albania's Tourism Board, which
we're all uh, we're all unofficial members of.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
One thing we wanted to open the show with here
is that Albania has officially appointed an Ai Bot as
a minister to tackle corruption.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Wow, mixed feelings, but not entirely negative. Just put that
out there.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, maybe cutting past the uh the root of political corruption, which.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Is humans humans that is, And that's what I've always
kind of thought, like I could see AI being useful
in government with if it's just focusing on like dispassionate
algorithmically generated policies that are based on the best possible outcome.
But we know it's not there yet, is the problem,
and people are rolling it out way too willy nilly.
But I do see the potential for this. Maybe you know,
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in the future.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's just gonna gaslight everybody in their parliament or whatever
they use in Albania.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Right this is or whatever they use in Albabia, or
just tell them their ideas are great and they should
just make it into a project. That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, oh yes, they're going Bruce Buffer with it, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That love bomb. I don't know. Bruce Buffer is not either.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
He's the UFC dude who always says, oh it's that guy,
that's what they decide.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That's where that's where Strickling got it from. Uh Yeah,
this AI bought is named Delia d I e l
l A, which means Sun in Albanian. There's a great
article from The Straits Times which talks about this in depth,
published on September eleventh. The idea here is that Delia
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will manage all the public procurement stuff. So like when
the Albanian government needs to work with a private company
to figure out the best bid for you know, infrastructure
like building a road or a bridge or what have you,
Delia will be the entity that decides who gets that money.
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Delia will then if everything works out, will people will
avoid all of the the typical right, I know, vulnerability
points of of human private industry interactions, which we know
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are super corrupt throughout the world except for maybe Singapore
and Bhutan. No, just Singapore actually, and.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They're just they're only not corrupt because you'll get caned.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, they're only they're they're not corrupt the way that
doctor Doom's La Turvia is not corrupt, you know what
I mean, because they're not really bothering with democracy anyway.
We want to hear your thoughts on this idea. Obviously,
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I think we're all on the same page as Noel said, earlier.
There are mixed feelings because maybe the technology isn't as
you said, isn't there yet. We also know that AI
or whatever is called AI at this point typically is
going to carry the imperfections of its human creators, and
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it doesn't have a moral compass as of yet. So
you can totally say the quiet part out loud. You
can program corruption.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, well, and you could butter it up like all
the other ones, like we've seen you just talk nice
to them, tell them amazing things about themselves and then
they're like, oh okay, because we're friends.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, and this is tied in by the way. We'll
move on, but this is tied into Albania's international reputation
for corruption, especially given that so many criminal organizations launder
money effectively through there, like kind of like how the
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MOB does or used to do in New Jersey and
construction projects. So we'll see how it goes. Albania is
hoping to use this new technology to tighten up a
little bit as they attempt to join the European Union.
So more to come on that. But while we're talking
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about technology and science, you guys, what say we take
a break for a word from our sponsors and get
to a pretty disturbing story and we've returned, so this
may not well, this is a story guys, we and
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our fellow conspiracy realist will probably find disturbing. But for
people who hate nerds, this is great news.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh, dear who hate a nerd. Nerd are the best,
right all of the earth people.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, we're a bit biased in that regard, to be fair.
The issue is something called a brain drain, and we
know what a brain drain is. It occurs in smaller
and larger levels. A brain drain is a term for
when people who are highly skilled in one industry or
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line of thought or another leave their original place to
go to another place for better opportunities. This happens throughout
the world. A lot of people you know, become doctors,
for instance, and they move from a rural area to
a city, right that has more economic opportunity for them, right,
(06:58):
and probably better career propositions as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's a way.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
It's a term that I hadn't thought about in a
long time, but it came up in conversation with a
friend the other day. Around smaller towns even where like
they can experience brain drain, or even college towns where
people you know, graduate and then move on and there's
really very little talent pool remaining in those areas.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, and that's that's becoming a crisis here in the
just in the medical sphere of the United States, especially
in smaller towns or places outside of cities where they
need a hospital open, but it's becoming more difficult for
that hospital to stay afloat. Very very scary stuff right now.
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What we're seeing is a macrocosmic version of that. It's
getting talked about a little bit in the news, but
maybe we maybe we started this way. Technological tensions are
rising between China and the unit United States. There's a
lot of exciting science happening here. However, a lot of
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US based academics, oftins, stem types, scientists, and researchers are
having a tough time. They're concerned that politics are styming science,
what with all the budget cuts, what with all the
culture wars regarding various types of research. In a recent
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poll by Nature magazine just at the end of March
this year, seventy five percent of US scientists said they
were considering leaving the United States and looking for jobs
in Europe or Canada.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Well, I mean it's such an anti research, anti science
administration right now, and so many of these cuts that
have been happening are these doze manipulations are threatening those
types of positions. Like I think we all know people
who work in research institutions who feel incredibly unsafe in
their lively hoods. Why wouldn't you do that if you
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had the opportunity to do so.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
This world is a technological superiority game, right. We've talked
about that before in most ways, especially when it comes
to state craft. Let's say your goal is to get
scientists to your country to develop weapons and defense mechanisms
for your country, and you wanted to court the top
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scientists in specific fields. What is one way to get
those scientists to say yes to your offer? You know,
instead of having a lot of loyalty for whatever country
or company that they currently work for.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
What's not only pay, it's opportunity and the ability to
be supported in things that interest them.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yes, yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
They'll do the other thing if they get to do
the thing that they're passionate about.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Doing, you know, exactly. Yeah. I was describing it to
a friend who has actually relocated to Japan full time
as part of this science exodus. And the way we
described it is, let's say you're a pretty well known actor.
We're all familiar with the term paycheck movies. That's when
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an actor does an actor, a director, a dop or whatever,
they do a project that maybe they're not passionate about
because it gives them enough financial support for them to
do the smaller things that they do care about.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
One for them, one for me is something to hear.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And that's the bargain that scientists made in World War Two.
Are at the close of World War two and we're
seeing another wave of that. It is happening now. It's
not being widely reported in honesty to the public. But
let's go to let's go to a great article by
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the Association of American Universities. We don't know if they're
part of ATLAS network. We haven't checked because they're like
six one hundred and something organizations in ATLAS. So on
June twenty seven, twenty twenty five, the Association of American
Universities summarized some pretty disturbing stuff. If you care about
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the US being good at science, A lot of it's
coming from Europe. On April twenty sixth of this year,
the Danish Chamber of Commerce CEO Brian Mickelson went on
Instagram and said this to all the brilliant researchers in
the US feeling uncertain right now, Denmark is open. We
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need you Across the Atlantic. We're watching with concern as
politics begin to overshadow science. So Denmark's in the race.
He also fun cultural note while he say this on
social media, do you guys know what song was playing
in the background.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
You can't always get what you want now, I don't
know that'd be funny.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It's Bruce Springsteen's born in the USA.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, Ah, so you're born here. No, Welcome to Denmark.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Welcome to denmarkt I love the ex well, the journey
is so thick of me because obviously this administration is
also quite pro war, you know, renaming the Defense Department
Department of War and all of that, and being quite hawkish.
And to your point, Ben and Matt, there's technology and
technological superiority jockeying that goes into being the best at that,
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and so when you start to deprioritize all of these
other things, then you start to lose that talent pool
that could help you win that race. And it's just
a little short sighted, if not incredibly short sighted.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's mister McGoo level short sighted, to be quite honest, right,
And look, this is not to sound cenophobic or anything
like that, but China is going to be the next
big dog. The writings on the Wall will talk a
little bit more about the science there that is phenomenal
in later episodes or strange news or list or mail folks,
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we want to hear from you if you're a science refugee,
conspiracydiheartradio dot com. We also want to share a couple
of other stories just to let you know how hungry
other nations are for American scientists. The Minister of Science
and Innovation over in Spain had, prior to the Danish remarks,
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had said, look, we're going to expand our program to
attract international scientist, whomever you might be, from whatever country
you might be happening to hear this in They specifically said,
we're looking for researchers who are in the United States
and are being scorned by the current administration. Here's where
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it gets crazy. Spain put their money where their mouth is.
They said, we're going to give the equivalent of one
million US dollars to each researcher. That's your paycheck movie,
and if you are i mean from the United States,
will also give you an additional two hundred thousand US
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dollars for whatever research you want to do.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Well, and how soon before the administration starts calling foul
on efforts like that. I mean, truly, it would be
such a silly, bad look. But you know, that's the
kind of thing they get their panties in a bunch
abouts because it used to be that we got all
of the best researchers from the rest of the world. Yeah,
that's what happened. We were the spot.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We're also hamstringing because this is kind of breaking news.
But the current US administration just said that Chinese nationals
legal visa holders can no longer work for NASA.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Wow. Yeah, I heard they're pretty good at science over there.
It seems like a bit of a cutting off your
nose despite your face situation.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I mean, it's an espionage protective it's a protective measure
against espiones.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
We're going to talk about that a little later in
today as well. So there's okay, fair enough, Devil's advocate.
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I understand that part.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Ben, Would you mind if I double down on something
really fast?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm nervous about this for a whole other reason now,
because I was looking at another series of stories about
the nation's report card. I don't know if you guys
look at that ever. Yes, yeah, just about how low
the reading and science and math skills are specifically for
twelfth year like twelfth year or high school seniors.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And just imagining the next batch of human beings that
would become scientists when only thirty three percent of those
tested are actually ready for math at a college level.
And I mean I get that you can get theoretical
creamly crop or whatever that ends up going to prestigious
institutions and become these next high level scientists. It's just yeah,
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we got less cream.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That's reality. There's less cream, more cream.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
And you know, like as apparent I guess of a
gen z kid. Let's also maybe be thoughtful in saying that,
maybe that that life isn't for everybody, of course, because
you pursue a certain maybe more creative path, or a
path that's more online or something. It's it's very valid,
and I'm not saying that every kid should have aspirations
to be an influencer, but I think there's a certain
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different kind of smarts that comes with that general person.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's all I'm saying, one hundred percent, and agreed. There's
also I was thinking about this while while researching this
week's Strange News segment, and the way I like to
think of it, guys, is that everyone is a scientist
at some level. Right. Everybody becomes good at something right,
or has a certain knack or a call or a nobility,
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and it's you know, I think it's been very damaging
in the American education system for generations. People were told
that you have to go to college to make it
in the United States, which is simply not the case.
And shout out to everybody who checked out our student
loan conspiracy episode, because that thing is true and damaging,
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you know, to this point, Matt. One troubling comment I
was reading in a couple of different forums from medical
experts actually was it was imploring people in the United
States to get any medical care they need it done
as soon as possible, and it said, you know, we
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have to consider that the next generation of doctors may
well not be as capable in the United States as
the current generations due to the shifting nature of education
and foisting so much critical thoughts upon large language models. Right,
not really right in your own essays. So this this
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is a concern. It's the same concern that led France,
Australia and Norway and several other nations to attract scientists
in the United States. But Matt, want to throw back
to you, because we were talking a little bit off
air about I think we're on the same page. Obviously,
everybody has their own talents. Everything is a science, and
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everyone can be a scientist. But we I think we
all share the same agreement that you don't have to
go to college if it's not a fit for you.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You certainly you don't have to go to college. I
would just say that if if you want to have
the type of expertise that we're talking about here, scientists
who are going to lead fields that end up, you know,
producing innovation, you do have to go to college, and
you do have to work your ass off, and you
have to you know, find a way to navigate all
of those systems that we've talked about before. The peer
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reviewed system, the getting granted all that, and it is
and that isn't to speak down in any way to
anybody who doesn't go to college. It's just it. I
love the sentiment. It's a really good sentiment, and I
agree with it. And you know, one day you could
become a podcaster.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You too, That's true. But if you're really you're not
going to learn, keep science on YouTube videos so you
can learn some general science explanation and get a broader
sense of things. But you need to learn from the
best and be in institutions of learning that specialize and
that kind of stuff. That's where you want to take
your brain and your life. Sorry, didn't mean interrupt magicants. Okay,
I think we're.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All passionate about this.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, we've talked about the con Academy many times and
other resources that exist out there that can teach you things.
And you can take classes at Harvard online for free,
at least you could a.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
While back, yes, but you still can't.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But if you don't have that interaction with others who
are in those same pursuits, in those same fields, and
the professors. Honestly, it's the professors in my mind, the
people you're going to glean that high level information from
It's not the same.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I agreed. I'd like to add some more to
this because it is it is an exodus. It does
touch upon conspiracy, which is why we're including it in
this week's Strange News segment. In a statement from Australia's
Global Talent Attraction Program, they said Australia has an urgent
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and unparalleled opportunity to attract the smartest minds leaving the
United States to seed capability here and to our earlier point,
nurture the next generation of scientists and innovators.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
This is where we learned that knowledge is transmissible, right,
and technology is transmissible. This is something that a lot
of people don't think about because we don't like to
think about it. When you think of a scientist exodus,
you're thinking of things like Operation paper Clip in World
War Two. Well, the sequel is here. It's exodus Electric boogloo.
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At this point, I also want to shout out University
al Marseille over in France that create a program called
Safe Place for Science. As soon as they opened this program,
as reported by a lot of whys over at MPR,
nearly three hundred scientists applied immediately because they were concerned
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about cut for funding and they are seeking refugee status.
So not not refugee based on one's personal identity or creed,
or or ethnicity or anything like that. Based upon one's knowledge,
one becomes a refugee as far as the international community
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is concerned. And that is beat me here, Dylan. That
is extremely came worried.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Uh, you know, agreed.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I don't know where it goes. To your point, Matt,
I don't know if we can apply ourselves as podcaster refugees.
I think. I don't know if it's to us. I
don't know if the skill set is right there.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Just we have to do is watch out what we
post on our social media. That's all we gotta do.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I deleted that off the harder because yeah, that's the thing.
M Well, I get that too, Like, let's spend a
second on that, because you know, I was thinking about
how different positions in the public sphere have different roles
and responsibilities. Right if it's if you're a politician, it's
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your job as you're remit to make political statements. If
you are a member of the armed forces, you have
to be very careful what you post and we all
know that. And if you are a professor, let's think
about this, not as the professor. You're the student, okay,
and you find out that your professor or your educator
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is posting a bunch of hate speech. You know, Let's
say you're a Welsh transfer student and you stumble across
your professor's TikTok and your professor's TikTok is all about
how they hate the Welsh and they think they have
tiny fingers or something like that. Would you feel safe
going to that class?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
No, And it's an interesting parallel too with a lot
of what's going on right now, a lot of talk
and the government after the I think we can all
agree tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk about prohibiting hate speech.
And you know, we know that hate speech technically, of course,
is protected speech, but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences
for your speech. So if you're in a position like
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that as a person, an educator or whatever it might
be a professional person, and you are seen as spreading
this kind of stuff, there will be consequences. People will
not want to be around you. You know, not that
you can be prosecuted, but social consequences are going to
kick in.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, and it's a bag of badgers for sure, because
the first amendment is, you know, the first one, so
hopefully like people clearly had their priorities in order when
they were amending the Constitution. And at this point we
want to pause. There's a lot of stuff we're not
going to get to. The air strikes on Venezuelan boats,
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the recent coup of lime Wire acquiring fire Festival. That
one's for you, nol.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
So weird too, like scam based organizations Joining.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Forces see their press release is awesome because in their
press release, LimeWire literally says what could possibly go wrong?
So points to you guys. We want to hear from
all scientists, all academics, researchers, and you know what, No,
we want to hear from all of you fellow conspiracy
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and will return with more strange news. I am so
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pumped to hear about emotional support animals.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And we've returned. It's going to lead off with the
with the most fun story of the bunch of my
bunch that I brought. Walmart has banned a gentleman in Pennsylvania,
of all places, for bringing his emotional support alligator into
the store. Apparently he'd done it numerous times previously and
had had no issues, but this time, after customer complaints,
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Wesley Silva, sixty, of West Brownsville, Pennsylvania, was told that
he is no longer allowed to come into the store.
A Yahoo news piece about this by Denette Wilford had
this to say, despite being harnessed and on a leash,
also wearing a dress in photos, Silva was ordered by
the store to keep the emotional sport alligator named Jinsai
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Oshi out. We have been going to that Walmart for
about three and a half years, he says, and normally
the reaction is that's pretty cool or that is awesome
that you have a pet alligator. Man, So Silva had
to say to WPXI, a local news organization there in
Pennsylvan despite their having not been previous complaints, it just
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takes one and that's fair unidentified shopper to say that
they felt their safety was being threatened, especially in the
case of children. I don't want to shop with alligators,
she said the shopper. I don't plan on shopping there anymore.
This is, you know, has the potential to be a
bit of a pr nightmare for for the Walmart Corporation family.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yes, of course, the question for the court, do we
have the size of the gator?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It would take two big beefy arms to hold it aloft.
Let's just say so medium, I would say. And it
does appear that this this this gentleman loves to dress
his gaior jinsai oshi in fancy couture. There's a picture
of him holding the gator wearing what looks to be
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like a cable knit sweater with a fur lined collar,
and that's on top of the dress. The fom mentioned address,
jinsai Oshi, by the way, is one word, but actually
when I googled it, this might interest you've been It
apparently is not on its own in that form a
thing in Japanese, but the words separately Ginsai means life
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and oshi is sort of a fan term to refer
to like the object of your fandom. You know, or
your stanness. So I guess if you put it together
in that way, it could kind of mean the best one,
you know, like the best one in life.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And you can tell he really cares about the gator.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
A million percent. And I fully get that. But I
do think it's interesting and we'll bring this into the
conversation the laws surrounding emotional support animals and like what
constitutes an emotional support animal and how that's different from
a service animal. It's my understanding that they're both protected
under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I don't think you
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can just say this is my emotional support animal. I
believe you have to have some paperwork or prescription or something.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
State by state actually, because some airlines have recently banned
more quote unquote exotic emotional support animals, like you can't
just have a peacock with you to take it through
the TSA. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Well, Walmart's website does say, according to the Yahoo piece,
that only service animals outlined in the Americans with Disabilities Act,
which includes dogs and miniature horses, apparently are welcome in
the department store. However, they plan to reach out to
the state to your point of Pennsylvania for additional guidance.
So maybe this is one of those precedent setting cases
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that will lead to some more specificity around what constitutes
an emotional support animal. Apparently the gator spends a lot
of their time in a pool outside and in a
bathtub of water at night. So Silva definitely loves this
creature and has other similar creatures creepy crawleys in his
menagerie reptiles, including six snakes, a leopard gecko, a komodo dragon,
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and an additional alligator plus a dog. So you do
kind of have to wonder why the dog didn't get
the emotional support designation.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And it's a callous dog obviously. Matt, can you do
the final word for Pennsylvania on this? What should Pennsylvania do? Man?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, I don't know about Pennsylvania. I just know when
you look at somebody's face sometimes you can tell that
you're gonna like that person. That person seems really cool.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
It's something about friendly.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
The way his eyes open and the way his smile
is you can just see I like, and whatever his
alligator is doing, I'm for it, and I think Pennsylvania
should be for it.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Oh all right, I like that. I like that, And
pardon the hubris. For a second, I thought you were
talking about Noel Dillet and myself. But oh you.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Guys do sure, sure, but we got to twinkle.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
We got to twinkle.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's specifically on the NBC News article. It's just looking
at his face in the sweaters.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
He's happy. He's clearly not planning some kind of alligator
related violence or heist. He just wants everybody to see
how much he loves his little buddy.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Sure, and I just wanted to read off a couple
of tweets. No, actually, these are threads under the heading
justice for Jinsie Ohshi. People are getting too carried away
with these emotional support animals. I hate alligators. They are
vicious creatures. Okay, a little harsh. The most surprising part
is that this was not in Florida. Let's see emotional support,
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my butt. He will get even more emotional when this
thing bites his hand off. I do not blame the store.
I would have banned this thing from entering the store
as well. I had my own store. Suppose a kid
walks in, touches the alligator and then gets threatened and
bites the child this is these are all very reasonable things.
I don't know that you can fully domesticate an alligator,
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and the fact that the power of those jaws, But
then dogs have just as powerful jaws and sharp teeth.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, but dogs are domesticated. You could tame an in
stridual gator. Right. And it's funny because you know, we've
been going through a phase of human animal interaction for
a while. Oh, I forgot to tell you guys. It
turns out, by the way, that some whales are trying
to use air bubbles to communicate with humans, and orcas
are bringing human streets and no one knows why.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Sick sort of like the way my cat leaves me
like a desiccated mouse, exactly like that.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
For some reason. And with that in mind, taking back
to gators, you know what's fascinating here is that the
reptilian brain is so different right to the human brains
as currently understood by science. So an alligator or crocodile
can be acclimated to human presence right right. Not quite
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the same thing as doctor Vankman wanting to hop in
my lap, or met wanting to play with Matt or
Apollo wanting to get the zoomies, but alligate I would
pause it that alligators are one of the non human
animals that you can learn to live with.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think that's probably true. And the one last point
I read from the Threads thread, if every animal is accepted,
then you will see people walking around with elephants and
lions inside Walmart. I do think it is a bit
of a slippery slope argument, and maybe the point here
is that there should be some clarification around size and
domestic catability stats for some of these types of animals.
(32:36):
So interesting, but it does appear though that there are
a list of sort of pre approved animals on the
in the act the people with disabilities. And last thing,
someone here on Threads added target and said, here's your
chance to step up. There we go. So you love
to see that real quick. A couple of additional ones.
(32:58):
We've got four folks arrested in the UK for projecting
Trump Epstein images on Windsor Castle I saw of the
President's visit. In addition, nearby another group displayed a massive
crowd sourced tapestry showing the President and his buddy Jeffrey
Epstein that could be seen from Air Force One near
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Windsor Castle.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Are they actual images or is it like.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, they're really high fidelity.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
High fidelity images the video in question. Actually I hadn't
seen this part of the image, but man, Jeffrey and
Trump are boogie and down together.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They're like doing the twist.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
There is some kind of party and they're just really
having a grand old time. Reading from Forbes in a
piece by Siladitya Ray, the British political activist group Led
by Donkeys. That's the name of the group Led by
Donkeys appeared to take credit as they shared a photo
of the projection on the walls of the British Monarch's
royal residence on Instagram, followed by the caption Hey Donald,
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Welcome to Windsor Castle. The projection showed old videos of
Trump's interactions with Epstein and photos of an alleged inscription
signed by the President which read to jeff you are
the Greatest. In an official statement, Thames Valley Police said
four people were arrested on suspicion of I love this
and I want to unpack this guys malicious communications following
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a public stunt in Windsor, and all four were kept
in custody. Do not feel like they have enough to
prosecute these people. It is a projection, right, They didn't
deface anything, and this idea, what's malicious about it? I
guess it's really touchy being that it's the royal residence
and that any activity surrounding it, approaching it, what have you,
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would be taken seriously. That's the case here actually, according
to Chief Superintendent Felicity Parker, who said, we take any
unauthorized activity around Windsor Castle extremely seriously. Our officers responded
swiftly to stop the projection. However, like you know, these
are real images. This stuff happened, you know, Yeah, it's
not deep fake stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
It's not AI. It's also I mean, the laws around
libel and defamation in the UK for now are a
lot tighter than they are here in the States. But
to your point, Nol, I doubt that. It feels more
like they're just trying to make an example and arrest
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people more so than carrying through actual convictions in the court.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, to show that they're on board with, you know,
helping out trying to polish Trump's image. Earlier on Tuesday,
they say in the Forbes peace protesters an unfurled a
large banner of a photo of Trump and Epstein in
an area outside Windsor Castle to protest the president's visit.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
A separate activist group not led by donkeys.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
This one's called Everyone Hates Elon, which usually goes after
you guessed that the billionaire Elon Musk took credit for
the banner in an Instagram post saying the British public
welcomed him with this gigantic banner right outside Windsor, Ca
ca Asho where he's staying with the King this week,
to the point of it being crowdsourced. Seventeen hundred and
seventy people paid for it, which couldn't have been cheap.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's massive.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
And this post referred to this visit as being about
polishing Trump's image and then sarcastically urged followers to not
share the image. Thank you for cooperating at this difficult
time for the president. Did the slicious communications?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Did they include images of Prince Andrew on there? Considering
don't believe so, don't believe so.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
That's a very interesting point, Matt, because of the libel
laws in the UK, maybe that was a more hot
button thing than they wanted to touch.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Was specifically Trump and Epstein cutting a rug together.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Interesting, What do you guys think about this concert? Is
this a British thing? Malicious communication? I guess I haven't
heard that thrown around here in the States.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It's an interesting phrase, yeah, if we are, because you're
not going to hear or that too much in the
United States. It's more the idea of communicating or conspiring
to commit a crime. That kind of communication would be
not protected under the you know, under the First Amendment.
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You can't say, for instance, hey we should get together
and kill a fellow podcaster. Who would we go after Jonathan? Right?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, just for for for the sake of of of example,
why not? Guys? It is an incredibly UK statute. I'm
looking at the act was the Act the Community, the
Malicious Communications Act of nineteen eighty eight, and I would
argue that the way it's laid out, this does not
fall under it.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's cyber harassment.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Well, okay, intent to cause distress or anxiety. Okay, could
argue seeing this, but that, come on, man, are we
that weak willed that we that's speech is often intended
to cause distress and anxiety. I mean, whether that's its
whether that's its exclusive purpose or not. Something like this
is something that president would love it if people never
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brought up again. And I'm sure it's stressful whenever he
sees it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen, and
that doesn't mean it's not relevant in this discussion of
releasing these files.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's also so conveniently vague by design, you know, because
that anxiety is probably self reported and malicious.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, this is suffering is pretty vague as well, and
in law.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Suits this is built to This is built as a
vehicle to crack down on free speech trusure.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Read from it to your pointbend it includes sending threats
makes sense, offensive content, okay, inappropriate images seems like that's
covered with defensive content or false information. Also get that
that would fall under slander and libel laws, which are
to your point, bent tighter over there, and can be
a criminal offense under laws like the UK's Malicious Communications
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Act to report such an offense. Oh, there's also an
additional act that might be related, the Online Safety Act
of only twenty three. But yeah, it does refer to texts, emails,
or posts sent with the intent to cause distress or
anxiety to the recipients or others. One could argue the
internet comments of any kind could be considered this thing.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
But this was a projection projection, right, so it's not
leaving a physical imprint. That's a building.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's also not online.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's very interesting. I Highlake Sphere communication. I think I
would do it.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Why we probably would all argue that they don't have
much of the leg to stand on. And to your point, Ben,
this is more of a symbolic act of solidarity during
the president's visit than it is any kind of thing
that will stick.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh yeah, and that reminds me. I almost texted you guys.
Woody Allen, by the way, went on record and he
said he had a great time with Epstein.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Was it on that podcast? He was on Bill Maher's
podcast recently and apparently said some stuff thing.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
He said he got invited to dinners and they had
a great time hanging out at the dinners. It was
like an old school salon. One night would be comedians,
one night would be magicians.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
One night would be a sex party.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
You know, he didn't get into that part, but magician
sex party perhaps, I don't you know what, I don't
even like stage magicians. That's my one great prejudice, and
I am kind of on board with seeing what a
magician sex party would look like.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah, I'm a huge magician nerd. I love it well,
you guys really quickly. I just wanted to mention one
last thing. This may be something to look into or
piggyback into another episode, because it's something that's very relevant
right now. Chinese dissident who led pro democracy group in
New York City pleads guilty to spying for Beijing. A
member of New York City's Chinese dissident community pleaded guilty
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to acting as an agent of the Chinese Communist Party.
This individual's name is Yong Jun Tang, sixty eight years old,
long and outspoken critic of the Chinese Communist Party, participating
in protests around Manhattan, the consulate in particular, and founding
a pro democracy nonprofit in Flesh and Queens, where he's
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lived since two thousand and two. But just all along
as he was acting as a voice of dissent against
his homelands government. ABC News reports Jake autenhearts of the
Associated Press.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Rather, that's just a reprint from.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
ABC that he was in fact reporting back activities, reporting
on fellow Chinese American activists, naming names, etc. So federal
prosecutors brought charges against Tang last August. They believe that
he accepted the tasks in order to gain approval to
visit family members in China. Tang's betrayal, they said, of
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the ideals of the US to help the Chinese government
repress pro democracy activists goes against the very values he
claimed to promote. This is rather from FBI Assistant Director
in charge Christopher g. Raya, who said this in a statement.
So we're talking a lot about spying, and you know,
Chinese infiltration and China becoming such a massive superpower, outpacing,
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out ranking, out maneuvering the US in a lot of ways,
with you know, aid from some of these types of folks.
He was granted asylum in fact, back in two after
escaping to Taiwan from a Chinese prison where he was
held for twelve years for his involvement in student led
protests in Tianamen Square. So he comes by his activism honestly.
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So you got to wonder how they turned him m
because that would be a big risk to be a
protester against the Chinese government in China during those times,
in particular where we know they were not messing around.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, scary stuff, man, It makes you wonder what happened, right,
it really does.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
So we'll leave it there. The last thing just to
mention that there is a plane crash where pounds and
pounds or kilos of cocaine bricks were discovered that were
branded with the official SpaceX logo. And when I say official,
ied just mean the graphic. It's not like it was
SpaceX officially sanctioned cocaine. It would more likely be ketamine
if that.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Was the case. Har hor horror.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
But Matt, you sent me that one, and it just
it got us talking off air a little bit about
how like in the nineties and two thousands, especially this
idea of like associating a street drug with a big
brand like Mitsubishi or whatever BMW in the form of
these little ecstasy pills that were pressed back in the day.
This kind of harkened back to that a little bit.
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So nothing much more to it than that certainly wasn't
actually SpaceX branded. Police puzzled by one hundred and eighty
kilos of SpaceX branded cocaine found at crash site like
a starship test flight. It went down, says the article
from Futurism. A single engine playing crash landed in a
field of sugarcane in Brazil over the weekend, according to
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local news media, killing the pilot and leaving behind one
hundred and eighty kilogram or almost four hundred pounds of cocaine,
probably valued in the half a million dollar range. Wow,
that's it for me, y'all. Let's take a quick break
here away from our sponsor, and then we'll come back
with our last strange news segment of the episode.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And we are back. Guys, branding your illicit illegal drugs
like that in that way feels like you would just
get more eyes on you.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Am I wrong? Well, but then pointed out too, it
is like, what is it the blue meth in breaking bad?
You know, it's this idea of differentiating your product from others,
and of course the blue myth is what put a
target on whomever was putting that supply out into the
the drug world, you know. So that is a good point, Matt,
But Ben, what do you think is it worth the
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risk of that perhaps to differentiate your product out in
the market.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Of course, you want differentiation.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Well, yeah, of course you do. But I feel like
you get way more eyes on you if an investigator
can track down a specific brand or lot.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
That's the Faucian bargain, right It Also, I hate to
say it, I you know, I exercise empathy for all things,
but branding illicit substances in this way, Do I get
the logic? Sometimes the branding choices they take are indicative
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of maybe not being in the best mental state.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
M fair, Yep, that checks out.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
I guess the implication here on the cocaine being that
our product will zoom you into outer space.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And somebody on cocaine was like, you know what we
should do that not just space, we should do space
x guys.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Guys speaking of those kinds of thoughts, in those kinds
of moments and having eyes on, let's jump to somebody
we should all have our eyes on and our ears
open to. Because it's some of the coolest, best potential
news that has come out in a long time coming
out of New Mexico. When Governor Michelle Grisham announced around
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the time of September eleventh that she and the State
of New Mexico are going to offer free childcare universally
to all families of all income levels in the state.
How incredible is that as a potential idea? Right sitting
around in blue skying and going, oh man, what could
we do that would be really great for people? Well,
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we could save people like thousands of dollars a year
if we figured out a way for the state to
pay for childcare.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And they they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's awesome. Yeah, I was. Let's say, you know, the
first reaction from the cynical in the United States will
probably be oh, you mean, like every other developed country, Sure, sure, and.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
We can you can hold that right and that feeling
And I get that feeling because I feel it very hard.
But if you can, if we can turn it right
temperate a little bit to oh, well, somebody is doing it,
so that means maybe the rest of us could.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Isn't there an argument too, at least with the early
discussions around this, that it could be a potential economic boon.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Yes, yeah, because of support, because of people able to
work more efficiently and not be stressed all the time.
And right it enables investment because it frees up everybody
knows childcare can be so incredibly expensive, right, it can
be a second mortgage. The rat race begins early for
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particular schools, right and placement. So yeah, this is this
is an investment in the future that, if implemented correctly,
has has a wonderful objective inarguable financial boon for the state.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Absolutely, and they did it without having to charge people
who live in the state extra taxes or anything. They
literally took surplus oil money put it into a giant
trust which is nearing ten billion dollars right.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Now in Norway style.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yes, and they're using that money that continues to grow
because it's it's an investment. We'll continue until the bottom
falls out of everything, but it will continue to grow
as things are doing well and people won't have to
pay that extra money. It's it's it makes me so happy.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
Doesn't it also make you so angry though, because of
how possible it seems and really makes you question why
isn't this a priority and why isn't this being done
on a federal level. Yeah, we'll have GTA six before
we have you know, universal childcare. And I think this
applies to healthcare too, because this type of model could
be used in a similar way. That's all I'm saying.
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If I was mixing and matching healthcare with childcare. I
just think the mind sort of jumps to that as like, well,
if you can do it for this, why can't we
do it for.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
That, you know, essential things.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Childcare is healthcare, alright, true, very much so when you're
considering the psychological development, the formative years, and the need
for support and interaction, it's deeper than a band aid.
And one important thing to realize about this kind of
legislation is that, given the environment and the milieu in
which it originates, those private entities are still getting paid.
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To be clear, the state is paying right and cutting
out some middle manning, but it's not as though people
are technically losing money as an industry. So this is
not something to knee jerk react in scream socialism was.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Money that helped start this off, as well, some coronavirus
relief money.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
H Maybe that's I didn't see that in age.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
It just says here in the AP New Mexico's current
childcare subsidies among the most expansive in the nation. Sorry, okay,
but this is still they're already ahead of the curve
for this. We're initiated with federal coronavirus relief money. So
just a good example of using some of that stuff
to help everyone.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, that same article. If you want to read this,
head on over to AP News and read Morgan Lee's article,
New Mexico is the first state to promise free childcare
for all families. And in there I was maybe I'm
just too hyper focused on some of this, but I
was reading about that surplus foil money as like pumping.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
That's for this. This is just saying that New Mexico
in general is already miles ahead of a lot of
the rest of the country in childcare subsidies because smart
use those federal funds.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
That They've been focused on this for a while. So again,
this isn't a Thano's finger snap right of ending corruption.
This is this is something that proves government can work.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Oh that's so awesome. Well, hey, speaking of proving that
things can work, guys, there's a hefty weight on one
man's shoulders to prove that his invention can function. He
and his team, doctor Charles Buehler. That's right, Buehler.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
Is it his day off?
Speaker 3 (50:58):
No, this guy is not gonna have on WI.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, this dude has been on it for a long
time doctor Charles Bueller, a NASA engineer and the co
founder of something called Exodus Propulsion Technologies. This dude is
a veteran of such NASA projects as the Space Shuttle,
the International Space Station, the Hubble Telescope, and this really
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cool new thing called NASA's Dust program, which is essentially
a digital replication of the Moon to use for testing
things in a you know, virtual environment, but testing the
physical things you're going to build to navigate that environment.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Which is way less expensive than trying it out live. So,
by the way, thank you. And we mentioned doctor Bueller
a couple times in the past as well, because, as
you said, Matt, he's been at this game for a minute.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh he has been. But the reason what we're talking
about today is this Exodus Propulsion Technologies company. And uh,
I'm going to read a quote from doctor Bueller. This
comes from the debrief written by Christopher Plaine. I will
tell you the title in a moment. Here's a quote
from doctor Bueller. The most important message to convey to
the public is that a major discovery occurred. This discovery
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of a new force is fundamental in that electric fields
alone can generate a sustainable force onto an object and
allow center of mass translation of said object without expelling mass.
There are rules that include conservation of energy, but if
done correctly, one can generate forces unlike anything humankind has
(52:34):
done before. It will be this force that we use
to propel objects for the next one thousand years until
the next thing comes. What we're talking about here is
very similar to the M drive, the EM drive that
we've discussed in the past, to the things that oh,
what is the name of that company? Ivo Limited? Ivo
(52:57):
Limited and the group behind the M drive have been
tempting this kind of electric propulsion system, right, microwave propulsion system,
something that does not burn fuel or have any kind
of expellant.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Your physics says that you have an equal and opposite
reaction to things. Right, So if you're trying to get
lift or propulsion, you got to push something out the
back in order for stuff to move, especially in space
when you don't have gravity working against you. And if
you do have gravity working against you, you have to
put enough force out to escape that gravity, to get
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escape velocity and to get out of Earth's orbit. Right,
this this person, doctor Bueller, if you read through this
entire article, you will see that they are using essentially
essentially electricity in this really interesting way of this super
light substances that can essentially create propulsion without expelling anything.
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It just makes you It makes my mind go a little.
Speaker 5 (54:00):
It's just like whoosh, Like it literally just creates what
lift it pushes air?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yah? I'm just trying to understand.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Okay, So one thing to know about doctor Bueller. He
is one of the foremost experts on a thing called
electrostatics and surface physics, and they've this group Bueller and
his colleagues have been working on attempting to create things
that are similar to like the m drive, the microwave drive,
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you know. Looking at other groups of people that are
trying to find a propellantless drive of some sort, like
the ion drives and those things.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
I'm picturing magnets like a force generated from static that
like is maybe that's not quite right, but like, like,
if I'm thinking of the force of magnets, that would
be like a force creative that doesn't technically propel expel anything,
So it must be somewhat along those lines or I'm
so such a layman. I'm sorry if I'm posting straws.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
You can look at a picture of the type of driver,
the type of system that they're attempting to build over
at Exodus Propulsion dot space space, and on the front
of that website you will see what looks like something
attached at the very center that can spin right. And
then at the ends of it you've got whatever this
thing is, the electrostatic materials, and then you can see
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how if you send energy into this thing via let's
say a battery or something, you can create propulsion and
make this thing spin. One quote from Bueller is this,
our materials are composed of many types of charge carrier
coatings that have to be supported on a dielectric film.
Our aim is to make it as lightweight as possible,
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but that is sometimes difficult since the films and their
coatings have to have a high dielectric breakdown strength.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
This is definitely an episode because look, yeah, Bueller's not
without his critics for sure. Oh yeah, but the amazing
thing here is the claim that we haven't just figured
out how to use existing things in an innovative way,
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but that Bueller and his cohort have literally discovered a
new force.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yes, that's what they're saying, and this guy is again
not some chunk, not some inventor in a garage saying eureka,
I've discovered it. And it's not that the inventors of
the M driver and inventors of the others these other
you know, potentially revolutionary technologies are kooks or wrong. It's
just this guy has bonafides and his team has bonafides,
(56:34):
and they are saying they've discovered something here. I think
it's at least worth giving them the benefit of the
doubt until it is at least disproven or it's proven
that you can't actually gain them.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, it is worth investigating.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
Is this what might be referred to as like vaporware
or something like that, or just sort of like not
vapor where they mean that's more of like a software
thing but science. That sounds great conceptually, but maybe isn't
actually possible, and that we need to see the proof
before we can get behind it.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Like AI, that's not far off.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Well, again, we've seen these kinds of things before for
a long time, like the perpetual energy devices and.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
These things you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, and and the M drive was pretty much debunked.
You can you can read articles about that too. Let
me send everybody over to this one debrief article. The
title is NASA veterans propellantless propulsion drive that physics says
shouldn't work, just produced enough thrust to overcome Earth's gravity,
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which is insane. That the findings, according to doctor Bueller,
is that if you built this thing in a particular way,
you could basically make it levitate and then continue to
float up until it escapes Earth's gravity.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
It's like fizzy lifting drinks.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
So so the big questions are, well, how light would
your space it'll have to be to function with this?
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Right? I see how heavy can your paper airplane become?
Speaker 2 (58:05):
But exactly. But in the end, it wouldn't matter if
you were just using this engine, this drive for propulsion
once you're in space, right, because if you could do that,
then you only need a tiny bit of propulsion to
get up to huge speeds while you're in space to continue.
Speaker 3 (58:21):
Accelerate and you are you are less burdened by the
albatross of fuel.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yes, and you could use solar energy right from any
star to fuel up whatever batteries you're using to power
the thing. It's super cool stuff. Check it out. We'll
probably do a full episode on it and go back
through the m drive and through these other propellant lists
drives that have been proposed over the years, because some
of them have been tested by state governments and study
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like DARPA is studying some of this stuff as they're
the ones that put out the original grants for some
of these.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
Things, right, and this is this is an exciting time.
And that's what we're talking about when we say there's
this tie in with science in our weekly Strange News
segment this week, because we're seeing enormous opportunity, but then
we're also seeing an enormous need for supporting people and
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institutions doing this research, you know what I mean. Like,
imagine this turns out to be true and Buehler goes
to a completely different country and works on their equivalent
of the space program.
Speaker 5 (59:25):
That sounds familiar, Ben, I almost want to say we
did a segment on that at the very top of
the show. Yeah, pretty likely to happen.
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concludes our episode of Strange News today.
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you want to hear what it is?
Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Of course, silence.
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According to a neuroscientist named doctor Dean Burnett, the best
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I like the thumbs down technique that you outlined in
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Bed. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee Hal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want
you to know. It's September twenty second as we're publishing this,
it's the seventeenth as we're recording it. Welcome to Strange
(00:51):
News Now. We wanted to We got so much stuff
to get to. This a science heavy expiration. I don't
know where we want to start. You guys, you ever
get tired of human politicians?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They're great? Ten ten, no notes, big fan.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Fully over it. Let's bring on all of the robots.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Tight. Yes, uh that is uh, that is our palm.
Matt Frederick speaking on behalf of Albania's Tourism Board, which
we're all uh, we're all unofficial members of.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
One thing we wanted to open the show with here
is that Albania has officially appointed an Ai Bot as
a minister to tackle corruption.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Wow, mixed feelings, but not entirely negative. Just put that
out there.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, maybe cutting past the uh the root of political corruption, which.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Is humans humans that is, And that's what I've always
kind of thought, like I could see AI being useful
in government with if it's just focusing on like dispassionate
algorithmically generated policies that are based on the best possible outcome.
But we know it's not there yet, is the problem,
and people are rolling it out way too willy nilly.
But I do see the potential for this. Maybe you know,
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in the future.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's just gonna gaslight everybody in their parliament or whatever
they use in Albania.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Right this is or whatever they use in Albabia, or
just tell them their ideas are great and they should
just make it into a project. That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, oh yes, they're going Bruce Buffer with it, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That love bomb. I don't know. Bruce Buffer is not either.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
He's the UFC dude who always says, oh it's that guy,
that's what they decide.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That's where that's where Strickling got it from. Uh Yeah,
this AI bought is named Delia d I e l
l A, which means Sun in Albanian. There's a great
article from The Straits Times which talks about this in depth,
published on September eleventh. The idea here is that Delia
(03:00):
will manage all the public procurement stuff. So like when
the Albanian government needs to work with a private company
to figure out the best bid for you know, infrastructure
like building a road or a bridge or what have you,
Delia will be the entity that decides who gets that money.
(03:24):
Delia will then if everything works out, will people will
avoid all of the the typical right, I know, vulnerability
points of of human private industry interactions, which we know
(03:45):
are super corrupt throughout the world except for maybe Singapore
and Bhutan. No, just Singapore actually, and.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They're just they're only not corrupt because you'll get caned.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, they're only they're they're not corrupt the way that
doctor Doom's La Turvia is not corrupt, you know what
I mean, because they're not really bothering with democracy anyway.
We want to hear your thoughts on this idea. Obviously,
(04:16):
I think we're all on the same page as Noel said, earlier.
There are mixed feelings because maybe the technology isn't as
you said, isn't there yet. We also know that AI
or whatever is called AI at this point typically is
going to carry the imperfections of its human creators, and
(04:38):
it doesn't have a moral compass as of yet. So
you can totally say the quiet part out loud. You
can program corruption.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, well, and you could butter it up like all
the other ones, like we've seen you just talk nice
to them, tell them amazing things about themselves and then
they're like, oh okay, because we're friends.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, and this is tied in by the way. We'll
move on, but this is tied into Albania's international reputation
for corruption, especially given that so many criminal organizations launder
money effectively through there, like kind of like how the
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MOB does or used to do in New Jersey and
construction projects. So we'll see how it goes. Albania is
hoping to use this new technology to tighten up a
little bit as they attempt to join the European Union.
So more to come on that. But while we're talking
(05:40):
about technology and science, you guys, what say we take
a break for a word from our sponsors and get
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our fellow conspiracy realist will probably find disturbing. But for
people who hate nerds, this is great news.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh, dear who hate a nerd. Nerd are the best,
right all of the earth people.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, we're a bit biased in that regard, to be fair.
The issue is something called a brain drain, and we
know what a brain drain is. It occurs in smaller
and larger levels. A brain drain is a term for
when people who are highly skilled in one industry or
(06:36):
line of thought or another leave their original place to
go to another place for better opportunities. This happens throughout
the world. A lot of people you know, become doctors,
for instance, and they move from a rural area to
a city, right that has more economic opportunity for them, right,
(06:58):
and probably better career propositions as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's a way.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
It's a term that I hadn't thought about in a
long time, but it came up in conversation with a
friend the other day. Around smaller towns even where like
they can experience brain drain, or even college towns where
people you know, graduate and then move on and there's
really very little talent pool remaining in those areas.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, and that's that's becoming a crisis here in the
just in the medical sphere of the United States, especially
in smaller towns or places outside of cities where they
need a hospital open, but it's becoming more difficult for
that hospital to stay afloat. Very very scary stuff right now.
(07:44):
What we're seeing is a macrocosmic version of that. It's
getting talked about a little bit in the news, but
maybe we maybe we started this way. Technological tensions are
rising between China and the unit United States. There's a
lot of exciting science happening here. However, a lot of
(08:06):
US based academics, oftins, stem types, scientists, and researchers are
having a tough time. They're concerned that politics are styming science,
what with all the budget cuts, what with all the
culture wars regarding various types of research. In a recent
(08:26):
poll by Nature magazine just at the end of March
this year, seventy five percent of US scientists said they
were considering leaving the United States and looking for jobs
in Europe or Canada.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Well, I mean it's such an anti research, anti science
administration right now, and so many of these cuts that
have been happening are these doze manipulations are threatening those
types of positions. Like I think we all know people
who work in research institutions who feel incredibly unsafe in
their lively hoods. Why wouldn't you do that if you
(09:02):
had the opportunity to do so.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
This world is a technological superiority game, right. We've talked
about that before in most ways, especially when it comes
to state craft. Let's say your goal is to get
scientists to your country to develop weapons and defense mechanisms
for your country, and you wanted to court the top
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scientists in specific fields. What is one way to get
those scientists to say yes to your offer? You know,
instead of having a lot of loyalty for whatever country
or company that they currently work for.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
What's not only pay, it's opportunity and the ability to
be supported in things that interest them.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yes, yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
They'll do the other thing if they get to do
the thing that they're passionate about.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Doing, you know, exactly. Yeah. I was describing it to
a friend who has actually relocated to Japan full time
as part of this science exodus. And the way we
described it is, let's say you're a pretty well known actor.
We're all familiar with the term paycheck movies. That's when
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an actor does an actor, a director, a dop or whatever,
they do a project that maybe they're not passionate about
because it gives them enough financial support for them to
do the smaller things that they do care about.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
One for them, one for me is something to hear.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And that's the bargain that scientists made in World War Two.
Are at the close of World War two and we're
seeing another wave of that. It is happening now. It's
not being widely reported in honesty to the public. But
let's go to let's go to a great article by
(10:52):
the Association of American Universities. We don't know if they're
part of ATLAS network. We haven't checked because they're like
six one hundred and something organizations in ATLAS. So on
June twenty seven, twenty twenty five, the Association of American
Universities summarized some pretty disturbing stuff. If you care about
(11:14):
the US being good at science, A lot of it's
coming from Europe. On April twenty sixth of this year,
the Danish Chamber of Commerce CEO Brian Mickelson went on
Instagram and said this to all the brilliant researchers in
the US feeling uncertain right now, Denmark is open. We
(11:35):
need you Across the Atlantic. We're watching with concern as
politics begin to overshadow science. So Denmark's in the race.
He also fun cultural note while he say this on
social media, do you guys know what song was playing
in the background.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
You can't always get what you want now, I don't
know that'd be funny.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It's Bruce Springsteen's born in the USA.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, Ah, so you're born here. No, Welcome to Denmark.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Welcome to denmarkt I love the ex well, the journey
is so thick of me because obviously this administration is
also quite pro war, you know, renaming the Defense Department
Department of War and all of that, and being quite hawkish.
And to your point, Ben and Matt, there's technology and
technological superiority jockeying that goes into being the best at that,
(12:25):
and so when you start to deprioritize all of these
other things, then you start to lose that talent pool
that could help you win that race. And it's just
a little short sighted, if not incredibly short sighted.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's mister McGoo level short sighted, to be quite honest, right,
And look, this is not to sound cenophobic or anything
like that, but China is going to be the next
big dog. The writings on the Wall will talk a
little bit more about the science there that is phenomenal
in later episodes or strange news or list or mail folks,
(13:01):
we want to hear from you if you're a science refugee,
conspiracydiheartradio dot com. We also want to share a couple
of other stories just to let you know how hungry
other nations are for American scientists. The Minister of Science
and Innovation over in Spain had, prior to the Danish remarks,
(13:21):
had said, look, we're going to expand our program to
attract international scientist, whomever you might be, from whatever country
you might be happening to hear this in They specifically said,
we're looking for researchers who are in the United States
and are being scorned by the current administration. Here's where
(13:46):
it gets crazy. Spain put their money where their mouth is.
They said, we're going to give the equivalent of one
million US dollars to each researcher. That's your paycheck movie,
and if you are i mean from the United States,
will also give you an additional two hundred thousand US
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dollars for whatever research you want to do.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Well, and how soon before the administration starts calling foul
on efforts like that. I mean, truly, it would be
such a silly, bad look. But you know, that's the
kind of thing they get their panties in a bunch
abouts because it used to be that we got all
of the best researchers from the rest of the world. Yeah,
that's what happened. We were the spot.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We're also hamstringing because this is kind of breaking news.
But the current US administration just said that Chinese nationals
legal visa holders can no longer work for NASA.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Wow. Yeah, I heard they're pretty good at science over there.
It seems like a bit of a cutting off your
nose despite your face situation.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I mean, it's an espionage protective it's a protective measure
against espiones.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
We're going to talk about that a little later in
today as well. So there's okay, fair enough, Devil's advocate.
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I understand that part.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Ben, Would you mind if I double down on something
really fast?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm nervous about this for a whole other reason now,
because I was looking at another series of stories about
the nation's report card. I don't know if you guys
look at that ever. Yes, yeah, just about how low
the reading and science and math skills are specifically for
twelfth year like twelfth year or high school seniors.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And just imagining the next batch of human beings that
would become scientists when only thirty three percent of those
tested are actually ready for math at a college level.
And I mean I get that you can get theoretical
creamly crop or whatever that ends up going to prestigious
institutions and become these next high level scientists. It's just yeah,
(15:50):
we got less cream.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That's reality. There's less cream, more cream.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
And you know, like as apparent I guess of a
gen z kid. Let's also maybe be thoughtful in saying that,
maybe that that life isn't for everybody, of course, because
you pursue a certain maybe more creative path, or a
path that's more online or something. It's it's very valid,
and I'm not saying that every kid should have aspirations
to be an influencer, but I think there's a certain
(16:15):
different kind of smarts that comes with that general person.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's all I'm saying, one hundred percent, and agreed. There's
also I was thinking about this while while researching this
week's Strange News segment, and the way I like to
think of it, guys, is that everyone is a scientist
at some level. Right. Everybody becomes good at something right,
or has a certain knack or a call or a nobility,
(16:39):
and it's you know, I think it's been very damaging
in the American education system for generations. People were told
that you have to go to college to make it
in the United States, which is simply not the case.
And shout out to everybody who checked out our student
loan conspiracy episode, because that thing is true and damaging,
(17:03):
you know, to this point, Matt. One troubling comment I
was reading in a couple of different forums from medical
experts actually was it was imploring people in the United
States to get any medical care they need it done
as soon as possible, and it said, you know, we
(17:23):
have to consider that the next generation of doctors may
well not be as capable in the United States as
the current generations due to the shifting nature of education
and foisting so much critical thoughts upon large language models. Right,
not really right in your own essays. So this this
(17:46):
is a concern. It's the same concern that led France,
Australia and Norway and several other nations to attract scientists
in the United States. But Matt, want to throw back
to you, because we were talking a little bit off
air about I think we're on the same page. Obviously,
everybody has their own talents. Everything is a science, and
(18:07):
everyone can be a scientist. But we I think we
all share the same agreement that you don't have to
go to college if it's not a fit for you.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You certainly you don't have to go to college. I
would just say that if if you want to have
the type of expertise that we're talking about here, scientists
who are going to lead fields that end up, you know,
producing innovation, you do have to go to college, and
you do have to work your ass off, and you
have to you know, find a way to navigate all
of those systems that we've talked about before. The peer
(18:41):
reviewed system, the getting granted all that, and it is
and that isn't to speak down in any way to
anybody who doesn't go to college. It's just it. I
love the sentiment. It's a really good sentiment, and I
agree with it. And you know, one day you could
become a podcaster.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You too, That's true. But if you're really you're not
going to learn, keep science on YouTube videos so you
can learn some general science explanation and get a broader
sense of things. But you need to learn from the
best and be in institutions of learning that specialize and
that kind of stuff. That's where you want to take
your brain and your life. Sorry, didn't mean interrupt magicants. Okay,
I think we're.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All passionate about this.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, we've talked about the con Academy many times and
other resources that exist out there that can teach you things.
And you can take classes at Harvard online for free,
at least you could a.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
While back, yes, but you still can't.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But if you don't have that interaction with others who
are in those same pursuits, in those same fields, and
the professors. Honestly, it's the professors in my mind, the
people you're going to glean that high level information from
It's not the same.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I agreed. I'd like to add some more to
this because it is it is an exodus. It does
touch upon conspiracy, which is why we're including it in
this week's Strange News segment. In a statement from Australia's
Global Talent Attraction Program, they said Australia has an urgent
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and unparalleled opportunity to attract the smartest minds leaving the
United States to seed capability here and to our earlier point,
nurture the next generation of scientists and innovators.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
This is where we learned that knowledge is transmissible, right,
and technology is transmissible. This is something that a lot
of people don't think about because we don't like to
think about it. When you think of a scientist exodus,
you're thinking of things like Operation paper Clip in World
War Two. Well, the sequel is here. It's exodus Electric boogloo.
(20:38):
At this point, I also want to shout out University
al Marseille over in France that create a program called
Safe Place for Science. As soon as they opened this program,
as reported by a lot of whys over at MPR,
nearly three hundred scientists applied immediately because they were concerned
(20:58):
about cut for funding and they are seeking refugee status.
So not not refugee based on one's personal identity or creed,
or or ethnicity or anything like that. Based upon one's knowledge,
one becomes a refugee as far as the international community
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is concerned. And that is beat me here, Dylan. That
is extremely came worried.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Uh, you know, agreed.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I don't know where it goes. To your point, Matt,
I don't know if we can apply ourselves as podcaster refugees.
I think. I don't know if it's to us. I
don't know if the skill set is right there.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Just we have to do is watch out what we
post on our social media. That's all we gotta do.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I deleted that off the harder because yeah, that's the thing.
M Well, I get that too, Like, let's spend a
second on that, because you know, I was thinking about
how different positions in the public sphere have different roles
and responsibilities. Right if it's if you're a politician, it's
(22:12):
your job as you're remit to make political statements. If
you are a member of the armed forces, you have
to be very careful what you post and we all
know that. And if you are a professor, let's think
about this, not as the professor. You're the student, okay,
and you find out that your professor or your educator
(22:33):
is posting a bunch of hate speech. You know, Let's
say you're a Welsh transfer student and you stumble across
your professor's TikTok and your professor's TikTok is all about
how they hate the Welsh and they think they have
tiny fingers or something like that. Would you feel safe
going to that class?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
No, And it's an interesting parallel too with a lot
of what's going on right now, a lot of talk
and the government after the I think we can all
agree tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk about prohibiting hate speech.
And you know, we know that hate speech technically, of course,
is protected speech, but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences
for your speech. So if you're in a position like
(23:13):
that as a person, an educator or whatever it might
be a professional person, and you are seen as spreading
this kind of stuff, there will be consequences. People will
not want to be around you. You know, not that
you can be prosecuted, but social consequences are going to
kick in.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, and it's a bag of badgers for sure, because
the first amendment is, you know, the first one, so
hopefully like people clearly had their priorities in order when
they were amending the Constitution. And at this point we
want to pause. There's a lot of stuff we're not
going to get to. The air strikes on Venezuelan boats,
(23:53):
the recent coup of lime Wire acquiring fire Festival. That
one's for you, nol.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
So weird too, like scam based organizations Joining.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Forces see their press release is awesome because in their
press release, LimeWire literally says what could possibly go wrong?
So points to you guys. We want to hear from
all scientists, all academics, researchers, and you know what, No,
we want to hear from all of you fellow conspiracy
(24:26):
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(24:47):
pumped to hear about emotional support animals.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And we've returned. It's going to lead off with the
with the most fun story of the bunch of my
bunch that I brought. Walmart has banned a gentleman in Pennsylvania,
of all places, for bringing his emotional support alligator into
the store. Apparently he'd done it numerous times previously and
had had no issues, but this time, after customer complaints,
(25:19):
Wesley Silva, sixty, of West Brownsville, Pennsylvania, was told that
he is no longer allowed to come into the store.
A Yahoo news piece about this by Denette Wilford had
this to say, despite being harnessed and on a leash,
also wearing a dress in photos, Silva was ordered by
the store to keep the emotional sport alligator named Jinsai
(25:42):
Oshi out. We have been going to that Walmart for
about three and a half years, he says, and normally
the reaction is that's pretty cool or that is awesome
that you have a pet alligator. Man, So Silva had
to say to WPXI, a local news organization there in
Pennsylvan despite their having not been previous complaints, it just
(26:03):
takes one and that's fair unidentified shopper to say that
they felt their safety was being threatened, especially in the
case of children. I don't want to shop with alligators,
she said the shopper. I don't plan on shopping there anymore.
This is, you know, has the potential to be a
bit of a pr nightmare for for the Walmart Corporation family.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yes, of course, the question for the court, do we
have the size of the gator?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It would take two big beefy arms to hold it aloft.
Let's just say so medium, I would say. And it
does appear that this this this gentleman loves to dress
his gaior jinsai oshi in fancy couture. There's a picture
of him holding the gator wearing what looks to be
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like a cable knit sweater with a fur lined collar,
and that's on top of the dress. The fom mentioned address,
jinsai Oshi, by the way, is one word, but actually
when I googled it, this might interest you've been It
apparently is not on its own in that form a
thing in Japanese, but the words separately Ginsai means life
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and oshi is sort of a fan term to refer
to like the object of your fandom. You know, or
your stanness. So I guess if you put it together
in that way, it could kind of mean the best one,
you know, like the best one in life.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And you can tell he really cares about the gator.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
A million percent. And I fully get that. But I
do think it's interesting and we'll bring this into the
conversation the laws surrounding emotional support animals and like what
constitutes an emotional support animal and how that's different from
a service animal. It's my understanding that they're both protected
under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I don't think you
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can just say this is my emotional support animal. I
believe you have to have some paperwork or prescription or something.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
State by state actually, because some airlines have recently banned
more quote unquote exotic emotional support animals, like you can't
just have a peacock with you to take it through
the TSA. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Well, Walmart's website does say, according to the Yahoo piece,
that only service animals outlined in the Americans with Disabilities Act,
which includes dogs and miniature horses, apparently are welcome in
the department store. However, they plan to reach out to
the state to your point of Pennsylvania for additional guidance.
So maybe this is one of those precedent setting cases
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that will lead to some more specificity around what constitutes
an emotional support animal. Apparently the gator spends a lot
of their time in a pool outside and in a
bathtub of water at night. So Silva definitely loves this
creature and has other similar creatures creepy crawleys in his
menagerie reptiles, including six snakes, a leopard gecko, a komodo dragon,
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and an additional alligator plus a dog. So you do
kind of have to wonder why the dog didn't get
the emotional support designation.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And it's a callous dog obviously. Matt, can you do
the final word for Pennsylvania on this? What should Pennsylvania do? Man?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, I don't know about Pennsylvania. I just know when
you look at somebody's face sometimes you can tell that
you're gonna like that person. That person seems really cool.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
It's something about friendly.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
The way his eyes open and the way his smile
is you can just see I like, and whatever his
alligator is doing, I'm for it, and I think Pennsylvania
should be for it.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Oh all right, I like that. I like that, And
pardon the hubris. For a second, I thought you were
talking about Noel Dillet and myself. But oh you.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Guys do sure, sure, but we got to twinkle.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
We got to twinkle.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's specifically on the NBC News article. It's just looking
at his face in the sweaters.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
He's happy. He's clearly not planning some kind of alligator
related violence or heist. He just wants everybody to see
how much he loves his little buddy.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Sure, and I just wanted to read off a couple
of tweets. No, actually, these are threads under the heading
justice for Jinsie Ohshi. People are getting too carried away
with these emotional support animals. I hate alligators. They are
vicious creatures. Okay, a little harsh. The most surprising part
is that this was not in Florida. Let's see emotional support,
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my butt. He will get even more emotional when this
thing bites his hand off. I do not blame the store.
I would have banned this thing from entering the store
as well. I had my own store. Suppose a kid
walks in, touches the alligator and then gets threatened and
bites the child this is these are all very reasonable things.
I don't know that you can fully domesticate an alligator,
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and the fact that the power of those jaws, But
then dogs have just as powerful jaws and sharp teeth.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, but dogs are domesticated. You could tame an in
stridual gator. Right. And it's funny because you know, we've
been going through a phase of human animal interaction for
a while. Oh, I forgot to tell you guys. It
turns out, by the way, that some whales are trying
to use air bubbles to communicate with humans, and orcas
are bringing human streets and no one knows why.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Sick sort of like the way my cat leaves me
like a desiccated mouse, exactly like that.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
For some reason. And with that in mind, taking back
to gators, you know what's fascinating here is that the
reptilian brain is so different right to the human brains
as currently understood by science. So an alligator or crocodile
can be acclimated to human presence right right. Not quite
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the same thing as doctor Vankman wanting to hop in
my lap, or met wanting to play with Matt or
Apollo wanting to get the zoomies, but alligate I would
pause it that alligators are one of the non human
animals that you can learn to live with.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think that's probably true. And the one last point
I read from the Threads thread, if every animal is accepted,
then you will see people walking around with elephants and
lions inside Walmart. I do think it is a bit
of a slippery slope argument, and maybe the point here
is that there should be some clarification around size and
domestic catability stats for some of these types of animals.
(32:36):
So interesting, but it does appear though that there are
a list of sort of pre approved animals on the
in the act the people with disabilities. And last thing,
someone here on Threads added target and said, here's your
chance to step up. There we go. So you love
to see that real quick. A couple of additional ones.
(32:58):
We've got four folks arrested in the UK for projecting
Trump Epstein images on Windsor Castle I saw of the
President's visit. In addition, nearby another group displayed a massive
crowd sourced tapestry showing the President and his buddy Jeffrey
Epstein that could be seen from Air Force One near
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Windsor Castle.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Are they actual images or is it like.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, they're really high fidelity.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
High fidelity images the video in question. Actually I hadn't
seen this part of the image, but man, Jeffrey and
Trump are boogie and down together.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They're like doing the twist.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
There is some kind of party and they're just really
having a grand old time. Reading from Forbes in a
piece by Siladitya Ray, the British political activist group Led
by Donkeys. That's the name of the group Led by
Donkeys appeared to take credit as they shared a photo
of the projection on the walls of the British Monarch's
royal residence on Instagram, followed by the caption Hey Donald,
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Welcome to Windsor Castle. The projection showed old videos of
Trump's interactions with Epstein and photos of an alleged inscription
signed by the President which read to jeff you are
the Greatest. In an official statement, Thames Valley Police said
four people were arrested on suspicion of I love this
and I want to unpack this guys malicious communications following
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a public stunt in Windsor, and all four were kept
in custody. Do not feel like they have enough to
prosecute these people. It is a projection, right, They didn't
deface anything, and this idea, what's malicious about it? I
guess it's really touchy being that it's the royal residence
and that any activity surrounding it, approaching it, what have you,
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would be taken seriously. That's the case here actually, according
to Chief Superintendent Felicity Parker, who said, we take any
unauthorized activity around Windsor Castle extremely seriously. Our officers responded
swiftly to stop the projection. However, like you know, these
are real images. This stuff happened, you know, Yeah, it's
not deep fake stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
It's not AI. It's also I mean, the laws around
libel and defamation in the UK for now are a
lot tighter than they are here in the States. But
to your point, Nol, I doubt that. It feels more
like they're just trying to make an example and arrest
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people more so than carrying through actual convictions in the court.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, to show that they're on board with, you know,
helping out trying to polish Trump's image. Earlier on Tuesday,
they say in the Forbes peace protesters an unfurled a
large banner of a photo of Trump and Epstein in
an area outside Windsor Castle to protest the president's visit.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
A separate activist group not led by donkeys.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
This one's called Everyone Hates Elon, which usually goes after
you guessed that the billionaire Elon Musk took credit for
the banner in an Instagram post saying the British public
welcomed him with this gigantic banner right outside Windsor, Ca
ca Asho where he's staying with the King this week,
to the point of it being crowdsourced. Seventeen hundred and
seventy people paid for it, which couldn't have been cheap.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's massive.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
And this post referred to this visit as being about
polishing Trump's image and then sarcastically urged followers to not
share the image. Thank you for cooperating at this difficult
time for the president. Did the slicious communications?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Did they include images of Prince Andrew on there? Considering
don't believe so, don't believe so.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
That's a very interesting point, Matt, because of the libel
laws in the UK, maybe that was a more hot
button thing than they wanted to touch.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Was specifically Trump and Epstein cutting a rug together.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Interesting, What do you guys think about this concert? Is
this a British thing? Malicious communication? I guess I haven't
heard that thrown around here in the States.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It's an interesting phrase, yeah, if we are, because you're
not going to hear or that too much in the
United States. It's more the idea of communicating or conspiring
to commit a crime. That kind of communication would be
not protected under the you know, under the First Amendment.
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You can't say, for instance, hey we should get together
and kill a fellow podcaster. Who would we go after Jonathan? Right?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, just for for for the sake of of of example,
why not? Guys? It is an incredibly UK statute. I'm
looking at the act was the Act the Community, the
Malicious Communications Act of nineteen eighty eight, and I would
argue that the way it's laid out, this does not
fall under it.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's cyber harassment.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Well, okay, intent to cause distress or anxiety. Okay, could
argue seeing this, but that, come on, man, are we
that weak willed that we that's speech is often intended
to cause distress and anxiety. I mean, whether that's its
whether that's its exclusive purpose or not. Something like this
is something that president would love it if people never
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brought up again. And I'm sure it's stressful whenever he
sees it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen, and
that doesn't mean it's not relevant in this discussion of
releasing these files.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's also so conveniently vague by design, you know, because
that anxiety is probably self reported and malicious.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, this is suffering is pretty vague as well, and
in law.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Suits this is built to This is built as a
vehicle to crack down on free speech trusure.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Read from it to your pointbend it includes sending threats
makes sense, offensive content, okay, inappropriate images seems like that's
covered with defensive content or false information. Also get that
that would fall under slander and libel laws, which are
to your point, bent tighter over there, and can be
a criminal offense under laws like the UK's Malicious Communications
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Act to report such an offense. Oh, there's also an
additional act that might be related, the Online Safety Act
of only twenty three. But yeah, it does refer to texts, emails,
or posts sent with the intent to cause distress or
anxiety to the recipients or others. One could argue the
internet comments of any kind could be considered this thing.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
But this was a projection projection, right, so it's not
leaving a physical imprint. That's a building.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
It's also not online.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's very interesting. I Highlake Sphere communication. I think I
would do it.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Why we probably would all argue that they don't have
much of the leg to stand on. And to your point, Ben,
this is more of a symbolic act of solidarity during
the president's visit than it is any kind of thing
that will stick.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh yeah, and that reminds me. I almost texted you guys.
Woody Allen, by the way, went on record and he
said he had a great time with Epstein.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Was it on that podcast? He was on Bill Maher's
podcast recently and apparently said some stuff thing.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
He said he got invited to dinners and they had
a great time hanging out at the dinners. It was
like an old school salon. One night would be comedians,
one night would be magicians.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
One night would be a sex party.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
You know, he didn't get into that part, but magician
sex party perhaps, I don't you know what, I don't
even like stage magicians. That's my one great prejudice, and
I am kind of on board with seeing what a
magician sex party would look like.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah, I'm a huge magician nerd. I love it well,
you guys really quickly. I just wanted to mention one
last thing. This may be something to look into or
piggyback into another episode, because it's something that's very relevant
right now. Chinese dissident who led pro democracy group in
New York City pleads guilty to spying for Beijing. A
member of New York City's Chinese dissident community pleaded guilty
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to acting as an agent of the Chinese Communist Party.
This individual's name is Yong Jun Tang, sixty eight years old,
long and outspoken critic of the Chinese Communist Party, participating
in protests around Manhattan, the consulate in particular, and founding
a pro democracy nonprofit in Flesh and Queens, where he's
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lived since two thousand and two. But just all along
as he was acting as a voice of dissent against
his homelands government. ABC News reports Jake autenhearts of the
Associated Press.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Rather, that's just a reprint from.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
ABC that he was in fact reporting back activities, reporting
on fellow Chinese American activists, naming names, etc. So federal
prosecutors brought charges against Tang last August. They believe that
he accepted the tasks in order to gain approval to
visit family members in China. Tang's betrayal, they said, of
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the ideals of the US to help the Chinese government
repress pro democracy activists goes against the very values he
claimed to promote. This is rather from FBI Assistant Director
in charge Christopher g. Raya, who said this in a statement.
So we're talking a lot about spying, and you know,
Chinese infiltration and China becoming such a massive superpower, outpacing,
(42:07):
out ranking, out maneuvering the US in a lot of ways,
with you know, aid from some of these types of folks.
He was granted asylum in fact, back in two after
escaping to Taiwan from a Chinese prison where he was
held for twelve years for his involvement in student led
protests in Tianamen Square. So he comes by his activism honestly.
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So you got to wonder how they turned him m
because that would be a big risk to be a
protester against the Chinese government in China during those times,
in particular where we know they were not messing around.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, scary stuff, man, It makes you wonder what happened, right,
it really does.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
So we'll leave it there. The last thing just to
mention that there is a plane crash where pounds and
pounds or kilos of cocaine bricks were discovered that were
branded with the official SpaceX logo. And when I say official,
ied just mean the graphic. It's not like it was
SpaceX officially sanctioned cocaine. It would more likely be ketamine
if that.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Was the case. Har hor horror.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
But Matt, you sent me that one, and it just
it got us talking off air a little bit about
how like in the nineties and two thousands, especially this
idea of like associating a street drug with a big
brand like Mitsubishi or whatever BMW in the form of
these little ecstasy pills that were pressed back in the day.
This kind of harkened back to that a little bit.
(43:35):
So nothing much more to it than that certainly wasn't
actually SpaceX branded. Police puzzled by one hundred and eighty
kilos of SpaceX branded cocaine found at crash site like
a starship test flight. It went down, says the article
from Futurism. A single engine playing crash landed in a
field of sugarcane in Brazil over the weekend, according to
(43:56):
local news media, killing the pilot and leaving behind one
hundred and eighty kilogram or almost four hundred pounds of cocaine,
probably valued in the half a million dollar range. Wow,
that's it for me, y'all. Let's take a quick break
here away from our sponsor, and then we'll come back
with our last strange news segment of the episode.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And we are back. Guys, branding your illicit illegal drugs
like that in that way feels like you would just
get more eyes on you.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Am I wrong? Well, but then pointed out too, it
is like, what is it the blue meth in breaking bad?
You know, it's this idea of differentiating your product from others,
and of course the blue myth is what put a
target on whomever was putting that supply out into the
the drug world, you know. So that is a good point, Matt,
But Ben, what do you think is it worth the
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risk of that perhaps to differentiate your product out in
the market.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Of course, you want differentiation.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Well, yeah, of course you do. But I feel like
you get way more eyes on you if an investigator
can track down a specific brand or lot.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
That's the Faucian bargain, right It Also, I hate to
say it, I you know, I exercise empathy for all things,
but branding illicit substances in this way, Do I get
the logic? Sometimes the branding choices they take are indicative
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of maybe not being in the best mental state.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
M fair, Yep, that checks out.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
I guess the implication here on the cocaine being that
our product will zoom you into outer space.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And somebody on cocaine was like, you know what we
should do that not just space, we should do space
x guys.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Guys speaking of those kinds of thoughts, in those kinds
of moments and having eyes on, let's jump to somebody
we should all have our eyes on and our ears
open to. Because it's some of the coolest, best potential
news that has come out in a long time coming
out of New Mexico. When Governor Michelle Grisham announced around
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the time of September eleventh that she and the State
of New Mexico are going to offer free childcare universally
to all families of all income levels in the state.
How incredible is that as a potential idea? Right sitting
around in blue skying and going, oh man, what could
we do that would be really great for people? Well,
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we could save people like thousands of dollars a year
if we figured out a way for the state to
pay for childcare.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And they they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's awesome. Yeah, I was. Let's say, you know, the
first reaction from the cynical in the United States will
probably be oh, you mean, like every other developed country, Sure, sure, and.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
We can you can hold that right and that feeling
And I get that feeling because I feel it very hard.
But if you can, if we can turn it right
temperate a little bit to oh, well, somebody is doing it,
so that means maybe the rest of us could.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Isn't there an argument too, at least with the early
discussions around this, that it could be a potential economic boon.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Yes, yeah, because of support, because of people able to
work more efficiently and not be stressed all the time.
And right it enables investment because it frees up everybody
knows childcare can be so incredibly expensive, right, it can
be a second mortgage. The rat race begins early for
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particular schools, right and placement. So yeah, this is this
is an investment in the future that, if implemented correctly,
has has a wonderful objective inarguable financial boon for the state.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Absolutely, and they did it without having to charge people
who live in the state extra taxes or anything. They
literally took surplus oil money put it into a giant
trust which is nearing ten billion dollars right.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Now in Norway style.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yes, and they're using that money that continues to grow
because it's it's an investment. We'll continue until the bottom
falls out of everything, but it will continue to grow
as things are doing well and people won't have to
pay that extra money. It's it's it makes me so happy.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
Doesn't it also make you so angry though, because of
how possible it seems and really makes you question why
isn't this a priority and why isn't this being done
on a federal level. Yeah, we'll have GTA six before
we have you know, universal childcare. And I think this
applies to healthcare too, because this type of model could
be used in a similar way. That's all I'm saying.
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If I was mixing and matching healthcare with childcare. I
just think the mind sort of jumps to that as like, well,
if you can do it for this, why can't we
do it for.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
That, you know, essential things.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Childcare is healthcare, alright, true, very much so when you're
considering the psychological development, the formative years, and the need
for support and interaction, it's deeper than a band aid.
And one important thing to realize about this kind of
legislation is that, given the environment and the milieu in
which it originates, those private entities are still getting paid.
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To be clear, the state is paying right and cutting
out some middle manning, but it's not as though people
are technically losing money as an industry. So this is
not something to knee jerk react in scream socialism was.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Money that helped start this off, as well, some coronavirus
relief money.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
H Maybe that's I didn't see that in age.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
It just says here in the AP New Mexico's current
childcare subsidies among the most expansive in the nation. Sorry, okay,
but this is still they're already ahead of the curve
for this. We're initiated with federal coronavirus relief money. So
just a good example of using some of that stuff
to help everyone.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, that same article. If you want to read this,
head on over to AP News and read Morgan Lee's article,
New Mexico is the first state to promise free childcare
for all families. And in there I was maybe I'm
just too hyper focused on some of this, but I
was reading about that surplus foil money as like pumping.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
That's for this. This is just saying that New Mexico
in general is already miles ahead of a lot of
the rest of the country in childcare subsidies because smart
use those federal funds.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
That They've been focused on this for a while. So again,
this isn't a Thano's finger snap right of ending corruption.
This is this is something that proves government can work.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Oh that's so awesome. Well, hey, speaking of proving that
things can work, guys, there's a hefty weight on one
man's shoulders to prove that his invention can function. He
and his team, doctor Charles Buehler. That's right, Buehler.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
Is it his day off?
Speaker 3 (50:58):
No, this guy is not gonna have on WI.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, this dude has been on it for a long
time doctor Charles Bueller, a NASA engineer and the co
founder of something called Exodus Propulsion Technologies. This dude is
a veteran of such NASA projects as the Space Shuttle,
the International Space Station, the Hubble Telescope, and this really
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cool new thing called NASA's Dust program, which is essentially
a digital replication of the Moon to use for testing
things in a you know, virtual environment, but testing the
physical things you're going to build to navigate that environment.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Which is way less expensive than trying it out live. So,
by the way, thank you. And we mentioned doctor Bueller
a couple times in the past as well, because, as
you said, Matt, he's been at this game for a minute.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh he has been. But the reason what we're talking
about today is this Exodus Propulsion Technologies company. And uh,
I'm going to read a quote from doctor Bueller. This
comes from the debrief written by Christopher Plaine. I will
tell you the title in a moment. Here's a quote
from doctor Bueller. The most important message to convey to
the public is that a major discovery occurred. This discovery
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of a new force is fundamental in that electric fields
alone can generate a sustainable force onto an object and
allow center of mass translation of said object without expelling mass.
There are rules that include conservation of energy, but if
done correctly, one can generate forces unlike anything humankind has
(52:34):
done before. It will be this force that we use
to propel objects for the next one thousand years until
the next thing comes. What we're talking about here is
very similar to the M drive, the EM drive that
we've discussed in the past, to the things that oh,
what is the name of that company? Ivo Limited? Ivo
(52:57):
Limited and the group behind the M drive have been
tempting this kind of electric propulsion system, right, microwave propulsion system,
something that does not burn fuel or have any kind
of expellant.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Your physics says that you have an equal and opposite
reaction to things. Right, So if you're trying to get
lift or propulsion, you got to push something out the
back in order for stuff to move, especially in space
when you don't have gravity working against you. And if
you do have gravity working against you, you have to
put enough force out to escape that gravity, to get
(53:31):
escape velocity and to get out of Earth's orbit. Right,
this this person, doctor Bueller, if you read through this
entire article, you will see that they are using essentially
essentially electricity in this really interesting way of this super
light substances that can essentially create propulsion without expelling anything.
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It just makes you It makes my mind go a little.
Speaker 5 (54:00):
It's just like whoosh, Like it literally just creates what
lift it pushes air?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yah? I'm just trying to understand.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Okay, So one thing to know about doctor Bueller. He
is one of the foremost experts on a thing called
electrostatics and surface physics, and they've this group Bueller and
his colleagues have been working on attempting to create things
that are similar to like the m drive, the microwave drive,
(54:28):
you know. Looking at other groups of people that are
trying to find a propellantless drive of some sort, like
the ion drives and those things.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
I'm picturing magnets like a force generated from static that
like is maybe that's not quite right, but like, like,
if I'm thinking of the force of magnets, that would
be like a force creative that doesn't technically propel expel anything,
So it must be somewhat along those lines or I'm
so such a layman. I'm sorry if I'm posting straws.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
You can look at a picture of the type of driver,
the type of system that they're attempting to build over
at Exodus Propulsion dot space space, and on the front
of that website you will see what looks like something
attached at the very center that can spin right. And
then at the ends of it you've got whatever this
thing is, the electrostatic materials, and then you can see
(55:16):
how if you send energy into this thing via let's
say a battery or something, you can create propulsion and
make this thing spin. One quote from Bueller is this,
our materials are composed of many types of charge carrier
coatings that have to be supported on a dielectric film.
Our aim is to make it as lightweight as possible,
(55:36):
but that is sometimes difficult since the films and their
coatings have to have a high dielectric breakdown strength.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
This is definitely an episode because look, yeah, Bueller's not
without his critics for sure. Oh yeah, but the amazing
thing here is the claim that we haven't just figured
out how to use existing things in an innovative way,
(56:05):
but that Bueller and his cohort have literally discovered a
new force.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yes, that's what they're saying, and this guy is again
not some chunk, not some inventor in a garage saying eureka,
I've discovered it. And it's not that the inventors of
the M driver and inventors of the others these other
you know, potentially revolutionary technologies are kooks or wrong. It's
just this guy has bonafides and his team has bonafides,
(56:34):
and they are saying they've discovered something here. I think
it's at least worth giving them the benefit of the
doubt until it is at least disproven or it's proven
that you can't actually gain them.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, it is worth investigating.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
Is this what might be referred to as like vaporware
or something like that, or just sort of like not
vapor where they mean that's more of like a software
thing but science. That sounds great conceptually, but maybe isn't
actually possible, and that we need to see the proof
before we can get behind it.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Like AI, that's not far off.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Well, again, we've seen these kinds of things before for
a long time, like the perpetual energy devices and.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
These things you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, and and the M drive was pretty much debunked.
You can you can read articles about that too. Let
me send everybody over to this one debrief article. The
title is NASA veterans propellantless propulsion drive that physics says
shouldn't work, just produced enough thrust to overcome Earth's gravity,
(57:35):
which is insane. That the findings, according to doctor Bueller,
is that if you built this thing in a particular way,
you could basically make it levitate and then continue to
float up until it escapes Earth's gravity.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
It's like fizzy lifting drinks.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
So so the big questions are, well, how light would
your space it'll have to be to function with this?
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Right? I see how heavy can your paper airplane become?
Speaker 2 (58:05):
But exactly. But in the end, it wouldn't matter if
you were just using this engine, this drive for propulsion
once you're in space, right, because if you could do that,
then you only need a tiny bit of propulsion to
get up to huge speeds while you're in space to continue.
Speaker 3 (58:21):
Accelerate and you are you are less burdened by the
albatross of fuel.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yes, and you could use solar energy right from any
star to fuel up whatever batteries you're using to power
the thing. It's super cool stuff. Check it out. We'll
probably do a full episode on it and go back
through the m drive and through these other propellant lists
drives that have been proposed over the years, because some
of them have been tested by state governments and study
(58:47):
like DARPA is studying some of this stuff as they're
the ones that put out the original grants for some
of these.
Speaker 3 (58:52):
Things, right, and this is this is an exciting time.
And that's what we're talking about when we say there's
this tie in with science in our weekly Strange News
segment this week, because we're seeing enormous opportunity, but then
we're also seeing an enormous need for supporting people and
(59:13):
institutions doing this research, you know what I mean. Like,
imagine this turns out to be true and Buehler goes
to a completely different country and works on their equivalent
of the space program.
Speaker 5 (59:25):
That sounds familiar, Ben, I almost want to say we
did a segment on that at the very top of
the show. Yeah, pretty likely to happen.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Well, that's it for me, guys, and I guess that
concludes our episode of Strange News today.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
We can't thank you enough, folks for joining us on
Strange News this week. We'll be back with more as
things develop and we cannot wait to hear from you.
So you can drop us a call on a telephone.
You can always send us an email, and you can
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Speaker 5 (59:56):
Oh, you sure can have a handle Conspiracy Stuff where
we exist on faceboo book, we have our Facebook group
Here's where it gets crazy, on xfka, Twitter, and on YouTube.
We have video content for your perusing enjoyment on Instagram
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Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
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(01:01:03):
or listener mail inspire episodes in the future. We can't
do this without you. We do have one weird question
for you, folks, and this is a surprise for you
guys as well. I just read that a scientist has
said he figured out the best comeback to an insult.
(01:01:24):
He said, he researched it, and it is true. Do
you want to hear what it is?
Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Of course, silence.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
According to a neuroscientist named doctor Dean Burnett, the best
comeback to an insult, if you, unfortunately have to deal
with like bullies and rude people, is to simply say,
in a calm voice, calm down, Grandma. I don't know
if the science is there. What do you guys think? TBD.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I like the thumbs down technique that you outlined in
a previous episode.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Ben Well, I appreciate that beat, and we appreciate you.
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