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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, and welcome back to the show. My name is Noel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Our colleague Matt is on adventures and will be returning soon.
They call me Ben. We're joyed as always with our
super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. If you are tuning
in to our strange news program the Evening it publishes
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welcome to December fifteenth, twenty twenty five. We have so
much stuff to show you, right dead smack Metal of
the month mm hmm yeah, and the middle of the
last month, which English, being such a weird language, probably
has a specific word for the middle of the last
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month of a year.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's like the penalty, the penulty. No, that doesn't work.
We'll have to figure.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, well we'll figure it out. We will report back,
and we'll report back to you because you'll be listening
in the future. We're so glad you joined us. If
you want to give us a little end of the
year holiday gift. We would love a review on your
podcast platform of choice. That feels like the easiest thing
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to do. We also have so many strange, strange things. No,
it's good to have you back on strange News. We
had so many weird stories that popped in and out
of the media.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Oh my gosh, things are popping for sure in the
strange news world. Yeah, but I mean speaking of being
midway through the month, and I guess I think the
official way would just be mid dash whatever the month.
So we're in the mid December of a long December,
and there's definitely reason to believe in time travel apparently,
or at least figurative time travel.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The idea of.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Memory jumping in time mentally and like memories relating to
kind of like intuition and those feelings of deja vu
almost having more of a scientific backing. This is something
that you were mentioning like, and I'm fascinated.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And in ridiculous history. Also, I I pitched and we
concluded together with our pal Max Williams, that long December,
by counting crows, is in fact a sleeper Christmas, Aul.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
No question about it, No question about it.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But yeah, speaking of sleeper stuff, what's the deal with
all of this? Like, is it dream based, our dreams,
our future selves visiting us in the present. What's all
the science behind this timey whimy stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
What's the deal with linear time? We would say, is
Andy Rooney on sixty minutes?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, that's the reference that give credit is due. So
I felt suck an egg.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So we also want to we we've got so much
more stuff to get to. We have some uh some
me Marie ahead for you. We have some odd culture wars,
some heist news. We've got to get to this idea
of linear time. And just to demonstrate what we're talking about,
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we'll dive in afterword from our sponsors because it's a
linear time joke.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Answer linear time jump or nonlinear depending on how you're
experiencing time in the podcast form.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And I'll say it at the end of the year,
if you know how the fast forward button works, man
all the secrets and we have returned. So for any
of our fellow conspiracy realists who have checked out our
series on Dreams Predicting the Future, you may recall that
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there's a lot of nuanced stuff going on in two
specific disciplines, the concept of neuroscience. Well three, the concept
of neuroscience, the concept of quantum mechanics, and of course
the concept of how humans perceive time versus what time
actually is. We want to thank multiple listeners who wrote
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to us and hipped us to an article from November
twenty six, twenty twenty five, which was far gone now
about the concept of a quantum entangled consciousness, the idea
that your gut feelings or your hunches may maybe more
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than your unconscio telling you about the current moment. No,
I want to throw to you guys. Noel, you first,
and then Dylan if you will you after. Have you
ever had a strong hunch, feeling or intuition or like
a gut vibe that turned out to be true? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean it's yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
The fact that we've got words like deja vu or
a spree descalier, the French idea of like the idea
you get after the fact, the spirit of the staircase.
It's all describing like a phenomenon that I think a
lot of us have experienced and maybe not quite known
how to articulate.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And you're asking me to think of one in particular.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I don't know that I could, but it's more of
a genre of feeling of kind of like being in
a situation or in a space, a physical space where
something hits you that feels like it's coming from outside
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Hmm, that's a good way to put it, No, Dylan,
how about you, man?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I get deja vu like once a month. It's usually
about twenty seconds of what I think is going to
happen next, and able to predict.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's always so mundane.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I feel the exact same way. I've had very
powerful incidents of this what we're describing here that probably
saved my life. However, most of them, to your point,
have been mundane. Like you're sitting in a restaurant and
you hear a voice like Nola was saying, a deep,
still voice inside of you that seems to come somehow
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from outside of you that says, oh, here comes that
guy ordering linguini, and then you know, the table next
to you guy says, I think I'll have the linguini,
and like I've been here before, and then life continues
as normal.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's never lottery numbers.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's never lottery numbers, right, and it's strange because lottery
winning the lottery is sort of predictive of changing one's environment,
not preserving one's environment or state of current existence. We
do see a lot of stories after disasters of people saying, hey,
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I had a weird dream.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well premonition.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I mean, it's used so frequently in like storytelling, this
idea of like something, I mean, what was it that
was that movie It was pretty bad with Nicholas Cage
about the plane crash where he has the premonitions like
or something about numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Or to finish this up, the idea that like nine
to eleven here in the United States is one of
the best examples because in retrospect there were so many
people who said they had some inkling right, and I
was going to use the phrase fight he says too
that told them not to get on the plane, right,
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Or the people who don't go to school during a
mass shooting, or the people who don't make it onto
a plane that crashes for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I mean, Donnie Darko does a good job of talking
about the time or weaving that into a sort of
like your future self warning your past self, but it
being presented in some esoteric, bizarre kind of premonition y
spidy sensey way.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And the movie that.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I was thinking of was Knowing stylized where the eye
is a one and it's like about Nicholas Cage Alex
Proy is directed, who did The Crow, having all of
these premonitions associated with disaster events, and I do believe there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Is a plane crash.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So it's definitely on brand, you know, for this kind
of talk, at least in the fictional space.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But you're saying, there's a little bit more to it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Now the scientists have come out with some info about
what this actually is.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well, they're arguing, okay, that they're arguing something that we
predicted in some previous explorations, some previous episodes again on dreams,
predicting the future, on the concept of quantum entanglement. If
we go to an excellent Popular Mechanics article, and again
thank you to everybody who sent this our way, you'll
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see that thejournalist Elizabeth Rain has built out what scientists
are saying. They're saying that what you're experiencing when you
have deja vu like Tennessee or yours truly, or when
you have a something that feels precognitive or predictive or
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violates linear time. What you're actually having are memories from
the future, and there's a lot of deep water here
that is, to be clear, incredibly controversial. To understand more
about this, we have to go to the ideas posed
by a parapsychologist named Dean Radden RDN. We've mentioned him
(09:44):
multiple times in episodes of the show. He is a PhDs,
the chief scientist at a place called Institute of Noetic
Sciences or get this acronym iods ions. They're based out
in California. They are entirely dedicated to the study of
unexplained phenomena, and one of these would be the nature
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of time and how humans experience it. So Doc Dean says, quote,
time is not how we experience it on an everyday level.
In quantum mechanics, time may not even be part of
our physical reality. It's not that time does not exist,
it just behaves in a much stranger way than how
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it is seen through the lens of human experience. It
suggests there's something probably associated with our consciousness that is
different from our everyday experience of time. It meaning our
consciousness is able to jump outside of ordinary experience and
receive information from the past or the future. This is
(10:50):
cool because it reminds me of an earlier study we
read that I think still baffles all of us, where
wherein people who took a random test had measurably better
results if they studied after they took the test. Think
about that. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is weird?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yew.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
How do you describe that phenomenon a little further, Like,
is it almost like it's just in the air, Like
it's sort of like being transmitted to you?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And I don't understand the wild Yeah, it's it's baffling,
right because it violates the order of operations of linear times.
So there's probably an episode about this for us in
the future. But you're asking the right question there, Noel,
the idea in that study, if we want to be
super wild about it, the idea there is that by
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your brain encountering information at any point, including the future,
your brain at any other point is better prepared to
process its environment. So, for example, I don't know the
full extent of how this goes. And just for the record,
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the opinions are diverse and controversial. In the world of academia.
A lot of people hate this concept or they say
it's pseudoscience, But if this stuff was true, does that
mean that you would right now, as you're listening tonight,
be more likely to save someone's life with CPR if
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you learned it next year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You really want to bank on that, maybe just you're
you're evangelist for CPR certification.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I swear one day I'm going to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
But yeah, gosh, I just don't know what you're supposed
to do with this information.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It just doesn't seem like if it is, if it is.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
A phenomenon that exists, it seems like a little bit
haphazard as to the frequency of it, And like, is
it something that you can really set your watch by,
no pun intended.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I don't know right yeah, And we don't know what
to do with it right now because we're still practicing
linear limited experiences of time. So maybe in the future
we already do know what to do with it. I
don't know. This is again, this has set up for
an excellent episode in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think so too.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You know, sorry to keep harping on movies, but it,
you know, reminds me of Minority Report and the idea
of reacnizing these precogs and this way of how do
you like take that, find it the way it occurs,
identify those people who are maybe more open to it,
and then like somehow jack them into a larger system
like you know, human matrix batteries that then feed like
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some sort of like government program.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's nuts and if you if you want to learn more,
folks go to no etic dot org n O E
t I C dot O r G. It's a it's
a nonprofit institution headed by doctor Dean and friends that
looks into ideas of parapsychology. Also it also links up
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to Okay, so from their perspective, precognition is almost just
another genre of remote travel like the CIA's Gateway program
or Stargate as it's called. And that was very interesting
to us as a crew when we were talking with
multiple highly lauded, highly credentialed scientists who were involved in
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stuff like this. You remember when we went through that
phase we're super into remote viewing. We talked about Uri Geller,
we spoke with Russell tar my favorite.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Still.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I always mentioned that I just can't believe we have
got to have that conversation with He's the perfect example
of like bridging that gap between science and the unknown,
you know, sort of take scientific approach to these kinds
of phenomenon that tends to defy explanation. Whether or not
he successfully was able to like train psychic spies, I
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wasn't there. I don't know what are your thoughts on that, Ben,
because that's exactly what we're talking about here, is if
this was something that could be nailed down in a
repeatable fashion, at what point is the CIA going to
start wanting to know more about it and can it
be taught to figure out how to harness this?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you think targ was onto something?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think he was asking and is asking the right questions.
And one thing that popular Science, not the magazine, but
popular science reporting often forgets is that there's not only
nothing wrong with asking weird questions, it's the nature of
how scientific exploration works. So a lot of the more
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skeptical of us in the crowd this evening are going
to hear the p word parapsychology or psychic powers or
anything of that nature and immediately dismiss it as quackery,
flawed methodology, or incompetence. But we have to remember, earlier
skeptics said the same thing about the heliocentric model of
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the Solar system, which is now accepted as fact. So
we have to be extremely careful not to be overly
zealous or dogmatic in our skepticism. One thing that was
really cool about this, and we'll move on after this point,
is that old Doc Dean was working at the University
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of Nevada in the mid nineties nineteen nineties, and he
was wrestling with this question of whether or not gut
feelings intuition awareness transcended linear time. So he built out
this experiment. Each of the participants got wired up to
an EEG machine and then they would face a computer screen.
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This is all in the Popular Mechanics article we mentioned earlier,
and here's the pitch they give to the participants. All right,
your brain is being monitored. You are looking at a
computer screen. A random image will pop up when you
press a button, and the EEG is going to gauge
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your brain's activity, your conscious reaction to whatever image pops
up within five seconds between the prompt and the image.
The images are going to be binary. It's either very
positive like a sunrise, you know, like a hallmark, car
sure or very negative like a car crash or a
structure fire, and predictions of seeing a positive image had
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no change in brain activity. But going back to the
comments I was saying earlier about dreaming of a car crash,
et cetera, if there was a negative image on the way,
the brain activity occurred before the negative image was show,
which means that is it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
A pattern thing?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Though?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Is it like something to do with how many times
they go through the cycle and then your brain almost
starts to like predict what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Next, right, right right, like playing rock paper systems or something.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
How many times are their false reads of the next
thing too? Like I'm wondering at a certain point, you'd
really have to get granular with that, Dana.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
To prove a trend of that, like these were accurate.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Like physiological responses to a thing that had not yet appeared.
But if there's two flavors of image, then the chances
are about fifty to fifty of getting one or the other, right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
To predict, we're talking about their statistical significance. That's what
I'm asking yeah to find or glean statistical significance. One
study is not enough so since that point in Nevada,
in the Nevada in the nineteen ninety this type of
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what they call presentiment study has been successfully replicated a
little less than four dozen times. So it does appear
that there was something there, and similar earlier researches is
probably what launched our friends at the shop to do
their own pre cog investigations, you know, and they even
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the CIA even hired statiticians to review the work that
they did, and those statiticians, for one reason or another,
declared the CIA's findings statistically reliable before they were declassified
in nineteen ninety five. So you may be predicting the future.
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Gavin de Becker's excellent book We always recommend The Gift
of Fear. It is a must read. Whether or not
you believe in quantum entanglement of your brain throughout time,
whether or not you believe that it's all just unconscious
signals that are getting put toward you in a vibe
or a spidy sense, you should listen to your gut.
(20:11):
I think you should always listen to your gut. If
you're walking somewhere right and all of a sudden you
hear a powerful voice in your head. Saying go left
and you meant to go right, just go left.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I wonder too, though, like how disconnected or different this
is just from good old fashioned intuition or like instinct,
you know, like at what point does it become seeing
the future, and at what point does it just become
kind of like your body and cognition sort of recognizing.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
A pattern and like kind of queuing you in a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, that's what I'm recommending again, The Gift of Fear
by Gavin de Becker. Please do check it out, because
things will trigger your trip your unconscious radar a lot
more quickly than they'll trip your conscious radar, which suffers
from ideas of social dynamics and suffers from ideas of
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what is or is not considered appropriate behavior in a
given environment.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Hey, Ben, speaking of ideas that once seemed outlandish, like
helio centricism and what have you, one that I think
we both still in general is accepted to be pretty
outlandis is this idea that the earth is flat?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is the cool if we move on to a quick
fun story about that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, but it better be fine.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I hope it's fine.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It could potentially be fine, Ben, Well, Yeah, I didn't
even put in the dock, and I just realized, Yeah,
this is something that we had all chatted about briefly
in our group text. The CEO of Columbia Sportswear a
an outerwear company based in Portland. They you know, puffy
jackets and the like. I think they're kind of considered
like to be sub standard, like a couple of rungs
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below like a Patagonia or like a north Face or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I have heard some.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Things about maybe that they don't make the best products
on the face of the Earth. But they're known, they've
been around, and their CEO is challenging the public to
prove that the Earth is flat. In exchange for that proof,
CEO Tim Boyle told The New York Times and blasted
the out across the Columbia's social channels that he would
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give the company and all its assets to any flat
earther who could successfully prove to him beyond a shadow
of a doubt that the Earth is flat. He said,
I've seen your manifestos, admired your diagrams, watched you proudly
stand on your well flat ground. So here's the deal.
It's time to put your map where your mouth is
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and he has some pretty, you know, ironclad caveats for
like what it's going to take to prove to him
beyond a shadow of a doubt. And he gets real
funny with it. He goes, if you actually find it,
snap a photo, send it to us, and you won't
just have bragging your rice. You'll have everything owned by
the company, all of it. The mannequins, coffee machines, snowshoes,
boggins off its plants, even the taxidermy beaver in the cafeteria,
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all yours. So what he requires, what to him would
constitute proof of this idea that the word that the
Earth is flat is the following. He needs a video
or a photo showing a visible physical end to the
planet Earth. We're talking infinite sheer drop abyssle, void clouds
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cascading into infinity.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Very visual. I like that.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And it does not account if it's the These things
do not count as the edge of the Earth. Things
like a clifftop in Seattle, a called a sack in Kansas.
Are your buddy Dave legally changing his name to the edge.
This is obviously a delightful, uh marketing ploy.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't know, it's a lot of fun, Ben, what
do you think.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Do you think what kind of First of all, what
kind of responses do you think they're going to get?
Is this is this opening a real bag of badgers
that their media, the handlers are gonna have to be
sifting through for some time.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Thanks for saying bag of badgers, because I'm a fan
of flat bag theory. I don't think there are any
badgers to this one. It'll be Internet trolls, It'll be
people who may have been victimized by disinfo campaigns. One
of the things that always said, since we made our
first flat Earth video low these many years ago, for
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anybody who still practices linear time, ultimately there's a very
small group of people who have been far enough away
from the planet to see it as an actual orb
They are astronauts. And I yet again want to shout
out the terrible joke for all our long time conspiracy
theorists where we had our flat Earth video end with
(24:44):
do you trust astronauts? So maybe maybe that's the question they.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Have foot It's out there.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, there's astronaut footage, so you can find that the show,
you know, them exiting the atmosphere and leaving behind a
quite a round miracle planet.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So my question again to everybody is the same question,
do you trust astronauts or do you subscribe to the
real the new flatter theory, which is the case ideas
shaped Earth. That's the one you got to think about, folks.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, so's it's it's more of a pie shaped earth.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
It's more of a pie shaped Earth, which doesn't violate
flatter theory, but it is rollable, which explains earthquakes right,
and it is layered. This is great. I'm not walking
away from this joke. And I know several people are
laughing while we're recording.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And I guess I'm thinking of an uncut case idea.
So you could have the cut case of dia version
of it where it is literally like a there's a
tip to the earth and then there's like the broadside.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I can't wait till yeah, yeah, these are great questions, though,
I can't wait till somebody writes to us. And please, folks,
here's your homework over the holiday. Get us find to
us a religious text. Add do your best like distorted
interpretation to support the idea of not flat earth theory
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like casadilla earth theory.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Well sure, and also if you're writing to Colombia trying
to get their assets, which, by the way, I was
confused about this. They list in the the marketing stuff
behind this pitch. I guess they're just being silly because
they say their assets are worth one hundred thousand dollars,
which of course is not the case. They are They
have subsidiaries other brands, Prana Soil and Mountain Hardware, and
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all of.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That together be valued at more than three billions.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So it is one of those things where you know, Wow,
what if the proof were to come and it really was,
would they really, you know, put their money where their
mouth was. He does end the whole thing with, hey,
flat earthers doing me a favor if you're going to
the edge of the earth where Columbia.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So it is, Yeah, this is good, good marketing.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And with that we're jumping to some memory because what
is consciousness if not a mimetic exploration?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
And we had returned Ben, I would pose back to
you the question that you posed to the audience on
our last ad break, What is consciousness if not a
mimetic cycle of experience?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And paraphrasing, but I believe that's pretty close.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, Noel, you Matt Tennessee and yours truly have been
talking about memes for a long time because there's some there.
We love them. They always make us laugh, some of
them make us think, and memes also get very deep
into the nature of consciousness and thoughts. So this is
(27:42):
a surprisingly good segue. But I believe that we have
all been dealing with on some level the rise of
a meme in particular. Could you give us the breaking news?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I guess it's yeah, I don't know. I think six'
seven is how the meme is being referred. To is
it even a? Meme like? What that's the.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Thing we think of memes as being like image, macros you,
know with some text on, it or like a looping
video or.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Something but then you've got.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
These things that kind, OF i don't, know loom even
larger than. That and it's not even one thing in
particular that you can refer. To but this six seven,
trend it's popular With Jen alfa of just you, know saying.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Six seven that's literally what it.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Is and like a lot of things in Gen alfha
kind of brain rock, culture it is inherently. Nonsensical it
can mean many many, things but Ultimately it's almost like
when the secret word of the day is said On
Pee Wee's playhouse and everybody like just freaks. Out at
least that's what's happening at in and out burger chains
(28:46):
in The West.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Coast AND i love what we're saying here because the
the real kick or the real umami of something like
this meme seems to be not so much the concept
of saying sick seven, itself but watching people who are
not in on the joke react to, It.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Sure that's what it, is that's, right or try to
get in on it with even more disastrous and cringe worthy.
Results you, know one of the these brain rot slang
things is on its way. Out when you see adults
really desperately trying to get in on the, fund it
just doesn't work. Anymore that's why they are increasingly, esoteric
and it would seem and. Nonsensical it's just about kind of, like,
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no you cannot wrap your head around this because it's
nothing in particular that you could. Grasp and, so as
one of the resident what are we gen, X i
guess or are we on the cusp or something like,
that we are not qualified to actually use these.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Terms we are not, allowed but we can.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
At least talk about them from an anthropological, standpoint, right.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah cultural. COMMENTARY i think technically you're a millennial. Cusp
that would be your sociological. Astrology, okay thank, You ben.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Preciate that's going to inform every DECISION i make from
here on. Out But i'm just going to read a
little bit from This mashable article about what does six seven?
Mean here's why kids are saying six seven over and
over and over. Again repetition's part of. It parents everywhere
are likely frightened to count to ten in their own
homes lest they tempt their children by getting to the
numbers six and. Seven if that means nothing to, you
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then you successfully avoided the six seven. Meme congratulations to,
you and you're blissfully offline. Life that sounds so, HEALTHY
i agree So, essentially at in and out burger chains
across the, country kids have been waiting. Around if you've
ever been to an in and, out they do tend
to have they do a lot of. Volume let's just say.
So either the drive through line is really really long
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wrapped around the, building or if you're, inside you're part
of a crowd and they're calling out numbers and whenever
they get to order number sixty, seven there's videos of
kids just freaking. Out LIKE i, said like the pee wee.
Thing if anybody isn't getting that, reference it's when they
would say a word of the day and everyone just
kind of. Screams and that seems to be what's been
happening in and. Out franchise's a little.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Bit, destructive they would, argue, right and the fact that
it's being filmed as well for the likes for the.
Content it calls to mind in this age of, information
performative things like the people filming themselves demanding sege wand
sauce or the specialty sauce made during The rick And
(31:26):
morty era as a promotion for one of their, episodes
in which people didn't actually necessarily want the, sauce but
they wanted the. Attention they wanted to be to see
and be seen doing this kind of performative. Stuff AND
i think this is a direct a direct, parallel, right
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yelling six' seven and then, getting filmed and then you
can propagate it, Right.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
RIGHT and i stop myself short of getting to a
little bit more of. The background if you want to
trace it to. A thing it's this Song by scrilla
Called Dut, dute yeah where he references six' seven. In
this cadence and but the thing that made it go
viral was this kid at. A basketball game it's like
a TikTok where he just says six to seven while
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doing kind of like, a finger emote and that is.
What TOOK off but i think this speaks to what.
You're talking About ben and mashaville did a great job
of kind of.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Summing this up the meme isn't really, about the song,
or about.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Basketball or about height like like, six foot seven.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And even really.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
About the numbers it is simply an excuse, to, Be
silly uh and there's a lot of that going. Around
these days have you heard of this phenomenon That's happening
in german called?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Putting mit gobble.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Tell us, About, putting mcgobble well.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
If, you know german it just means putting with a
fork and it's literally just a bunch of people assembling
in public places to eat pudding.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
With. A fork oh that reminds me of that that
Elderly Man in new york who just put out an
open call for people to smoke. A free cigarette but
do you?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Remember seeing that and he also made a big, point
of saying if you, don't already, smoke don't smoke it's.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Bad for YOU but if.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I. Will check IDs, but but, yeah people love especially
now an era, of growing divisiveness where so many terrible,
things are happening the world's ending for, someone every day
it's kind of fun to get together with stranger strangers
and be united. INNOCUOUS and silly. I, LOVE that yeah i.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Know it's true there are divisive and, also mean spirited
and the discourse can be just so aggressive and a little.
Bit SOUL draining so, i Fully Understand especially gen alpha
coming up and experiencing a lot of this stuff and
almost needing something to, soften the blow or at least
just kind. Of perpetuating that this is sort of humor
certainly been Around Longer, than jen alpha but it seems
to be more and more absurdist and in a not,
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mean spirited way in like a more Of A silly
billy willie.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Kind of.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Way, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, that's, My point, right, somebody says hey let's just
get together and watch this guy eat an. Entire rotisserie chicken,
that's ANOTHER example and i, think that's beautiful this kind of.
TOWN square surrealism i want more of it. In the,
WORLD you know i can see it now because the.
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Statute has passed i'm not sure, about the legality but
for a long time in various parts, OF the WORLD
i would i would find myself in or various Parts Of.
THE united states i can be, MORE specific now i
would create fake wanted posters for. Non human things and
one of my favorites was a missing poster for a boomerang,
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and it said no need to, call the police just
wait here. For a second.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I'll come back, it always does might.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Take a minute, BUT all saying i. THINK we're aligned
i think we're agreeing on the idea of this. Fundamentally human,
thing you know there is a whistle like. A graveyard
whistle there is no humor. Like gallows humor but sometimes
people in power or entities and power try to be
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artificially in, on the, game like, hello Fellow Kids The steve,
bush emi stuff or or they find themselves overwhelmed by
some of. These, organic, trends yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
No it's, true but again like the mean spirited, side,
of it too is a thing like even when the
folks in power Currently In the united states are trying
to get in on some, meme type action oftentimes they're very.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Other and mean. Spirited and pointed like Even Like when
pete Hesith DOING the turtle ai cartoons like bombing drug.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Boats OR whatever and i believe the publishers of That
Child that beloved children's character came out and said, Not cool.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Man but they.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Almost, always, do well yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
They got to separate.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Themselves from it, but you know the six seven of
it all is just so much more, soft and, gentle
and like how could you? Even, Weaponize, THAT right like
i don't even know how you could in a negative
way because it is inherently.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
It's, Just, ephemeral, right.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Well yeah yeah that's what we're, setting, up here folks
because we're talking about these reactions from the power structure
when a funny thing gets a little too funny, or too, well,
we say inconvenient especially in a place. Based on.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Inconvenience THAT'S true and, I don't know i spend a
lot of time just now talking about how these things
are a little kinder and gentler than maybe some, of
the darker more mean spirited of service tumor, of the
past and that's certainly, still out there but there, IS a,
certain i guess aggressive repetition to it that can be
perceived as, almost like combative and that's sort of what's
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Happening in These in, and out burgers these kids that
are gathered around and just going nuts every time six.
SEVEN comes up i believe sixty nine also. Figures Into
it So in and, out's just like we don't want to.
Play this game we're removing the numbers sixty seven and
sixty nine from, our order system so much like a
building in the past that was built without, a thirteenth
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floor just not, To tempt Fate in and out has
mixed the numbers sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And, sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah nice, or not nice or or. WHATEVER you prefer
i want to take a second To Shout, out miles
gray who introduced me to six seven quite, some time ago, And,
he said ben, you know what you don't have to
worry about what it means if someone says, it to
you just, Go doop doop and he was referencing the
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song that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Mentioned earlier there we also know that we are living
in a time where reality in the online world. Becomes,
INCREASINGLY negotiable now, i will say this feels like if
we're just hearing, the news here The In and out
burger cup empires react action feels maybe, a little draconian
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maybe a. Little bit overdone was this? Really a problem
were there? That many people were they like burning down
in and out?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Screaming six, Seven certainly not BUT it's just i think
was becoming a distraction to maybe employees or maybe making.
Others feel, uncomfortable, but again though like if you've Ever
been To, in and out like, at peak hours it's
like you're at a. CONCERT or, something i mean it's
it's pretty, wild in there like especially if it's like
later at night and maybe people have, had you know
they're going for their late. Night greasy burger i've. Had
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SOME drinks so i. DON'T fully understand i almost wonder
if they're getting in on the trend in a way,
by you know making a making, into, a story yes
saying that they have.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Erased the number it's. Definitely, reportable something.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah it's it's if it's not uh not in, a
weak marketing then it's definitely an example of. The streisand
effect it's just. Further empowering stuff and what do they
say then instead of, six and seven, Do they say
i'll have a five plus one and an? Eight minus
one how do they.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Order numbers like like like you, you are, assigned you
know you're number sixty five or number they're just.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
In, the system yeah there's like.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
The Number four in asia. Or number. Thirteen JUST so.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
And i also just, want TO mention like i understand
how these kinds of trends, can be disruptive like say
in a classroom or like. A, learning environment sure and
it is becoming increasingly kind of foreboten to like use.
These in, school but again how are you going to
crack down on? KIDS being, Unruly i mean god bless
all the teachers out there having to contend with some of.
These new things but it has there are educators, that are,
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talking you know pretty extensively with the media about how
some of. These things there they're like kids are not
allowed to say certain of these brain rot terms because
it becomes.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
A significant distraction.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
But in an in, and out breaker it just seems
LIKE it'd be, I don't know i don't quite get
the get the concern unless it's like literally causing like.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
LIKE riot conditions.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't get the hubbub bub YOU know. What i
mean it's not as if there are a Bunch of
mad max Level raiders and reavers running up on running
up on an in and out. SCREAMING six seven i
do appreciate the, Point about educators and thank you to
everybody in the audience. Involved in education you've sent us
some straight. Up horror stories and thanks to everybody who
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followed up as well about our recent mention a while
ago on how the short form content may indeed lead
to decrease the tension spans and some very serious changes.
In cognitive behavior so thanks. For, writing it.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah and that has to be adapted to. A certain
degree it does seem like public education is adapting to,
Some of this like in, my kid's school they have
like a student center where kids are allowed to go
if they're feeling overwhelmed or they're having a hard. Time
focus saying and it does seem like depending, on the
school they have infrastructure and things in place for kids
that are dealing with some of this as short, attention
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span anxiety all of these things that maybe are a
product of SOME of the ptsd that that generation experience
COMING up in covid and, all of that like, with
remote schooling and they are actually options for certain kids
that are struggling with this stuff to do school fully remote.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Or partially remote so it's cool to see.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
This being adapted to by educators and important that they're
keyed into.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
What's going on.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
And speaking, of culture wars ONE thing that i ALWAYS
want to i always want to emphasize whenever you hear
about insert here generation has a problem with insert this,
activity or whatever please. Remember it's cyclical it's ubiquitous throughout.
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The human species when Whatever came after gregorian chant started
getting popular in, monasteries and churches there was an entire
generation of, people, who said no. Forget this stuff gregory
chanced the. Way to go. One culture war we're not
gonna spend. Time with this but one other attempted culture
(42:13):
war that's happening right now comes from none other Than Our,
buddy marco rubio who HAS Ordered The us state department
to stop using the calibri fought and Go Back To.
Times new roman he said it, was too weird it.
Was too soon it's like speaking of. Picking one's battles
(42:35):
that is an example of how silly folks can get
we're running a. Little bit long what do we think
about taking one. More ad brak.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Let's take one more ab break and then come back
with the banger of. A closing story.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
We're back with several. Banger closing stories if it's all, right,
With everybody guys let's start with a bit of, a
cautionary tale just a heads up, without being alarmist. Without
frightening anybody you may have seen the news if you,
travel often abroad as we, end up doing if you
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find yourself in a situation where you ARE not a
us national and you are traveling from a country that
allows you to get, here visa free you have some
stuff on the horizon you should. Be concerned about let's
talk about, it This, Way. So noel, tennessee, have you
(43:34):
guys ever had a weird moment when you come BACK.
To the us have you ever been detained or have
only as far as, you're comfortable answering or got any
weird questions or? Anything like?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
That, not detained now, knock on wood.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Just held up maybe had my dad gone through a
LITTLE more than i, Would HAVE liked but i try
to plan for that.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Kind of stuff How. ABOUT you dylan i.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Went through customs once Coming Back from saint croix and
THEY asked where i had been staying. ON the island
I told them i had been staying, with a friend,
and they're like is your? Friend here, now like that
it WAS almost.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Like i made up the friend brind in the. Room
right now.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
You wouldn't know and he goes to another school Break out.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
The, luija, board yeah okay This is why i'm asking
because a lot of people, have found, themselves you know
in unexpected situations or like, You, Were, saying dylan uh
you come BACK to the us, and, You're saying HEY i'm.
A us citizen why was not? Expecting these questions so this.
Level of interrogation or you're going, to another uh you're going.
(44:35):
TO another country i remember WHEN one country i. Was.
Going to uh they gave, you the uh the paperwork
on the plane as, you were landing and one of
the questions was have you ever committed an act? Of
moral turptitude not a crime that qualifies, as moral turptitude
but an act? Of MORAL turpitude and, I, was thinking
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oh what. A weird question they're asking have you? Ever
been bad, like you know that's like when you're filling
out for anybody who's. Worked in retail sometimes back in
the days of, paperwork for applications they would have these
this series of questions that, were so, strange something like
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have you ever stolen from a job? Or an employer
and then the second one was if you saw someone stealing,
from your job would you tell?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Anyone?
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Who checks yes, and, then, no like yeah steal. All,
The time no i'm. Not a snitch hire. Me, pet
smart yeah that's a little bit of. An eye questionaire.
It is right, this is so this is something that
you will need to know if you are Traveling To,
the united states possibly in. The near Future Customs and
(45:54):
Border protection Aka friends of tennessee Have partnered With Apartment
of homeland security to. Say the following this. Is their
pitch if you are eligible TO visit the us for
ninety days, without a visa that's, dozens OF countries the
us is hoping to reserve the right to vet all
(46:21):
of your social media activity for the. Previous five years
so five years of whatever you did or said on
social media. Like, an, audit yeah, yeah just so, like
an audit and you are.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
You for it? OR against IT i think i think
it's reasonable.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
IT'S out, there, i mean like isn't it sort of
a reasonable expectation that that's potentially on, the table anyway
anything that you've got out.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
There, publicly available.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah that's a great that's. A, great point well this
is why we wanted to bring, this, to you folks because.
We have questions is it really an invasion of privacy
if it is, social media history because aren't you talking
in a, publicly accessible space or does it also include
things like your private, conversations on, there you know the
(47:14):
dms that he didn't mean to. Send to people, and
then FURTHER if the us intel apparatus is already as
as thorough as we know, it to be wouldn't they have?
ALREADY clocked you i, would think so if, you're that
bad seems to just fall in line with.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Just, REGULAR vetting yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I don't think i highly doubt the authorities are going
to look at someone's five Last years of, facebook, and
say oh this guy is selling Your radium. On facebook
marketplace we can't let Him Into The. Delta, sky, club.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
No no he, must be.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Ejected escorted out did you hear about that guy that
was a? Like stormed ariana Grande at the wicked, premiere and,
like oh yeah jumped. Over the barricade he was just
like it's discovered wearing a fake mustache and a Wig
At a.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
LADY gaga concert.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I heard him scort it.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
OUT by security i think some eagle.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Eyed fan spotted him In, somewhere IN australia And i
believe melbourne. Where, he's from Yeah what a and like
when the, video of him he's just smirking. At, THE
camera sorry i didn't mean to derail from, the original
story just made me.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Think, of it yeah it's it's already getting kind of
dicey here for Visitors Of the united states because tourism.
Has massively plummeted vegas is pretty much an, overpriced ghost
town and it seems like there are increasingly punitive or
(48:42):
off putting policies being proposed and indeed enacted against, innocent people,
who you know just want to go on a honeymoon
or just want To See the grand canyon or. What have,
you you know like you have to make a one
time payment of forty bucks to visit if you're from
a one is, visa free, countries you also, according to
(49:08):
this will have to provide your telephone numbers and email
addresses over the last five years, for telephone numbers over
the last ten, years for addresses and you have to
give more information about your family members even if they
are not. Traveling with you that gets it just gets more, and, More,
INVASIVE right yeah i get it.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
DOES for sure i guess we've all just kind of
gotten used to this idea of like there is like
there's no illusion of privacy when it, comes to travel,
especially international travel and the idea of like getting stamps.
On your passport and one thing that occurred to me
when you were asking about getting jammed up or held
up or detained it at airports.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Or In customs if, i'm.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Not mistaken there are certain countries that if they if
other countries see that stamp, on your passport they could
jam you up.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
A little bit. One.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Hundred percent yeah the most prominent Example Is. The middle
east so for a long time this isn't as ironclad
as it. Used to be but for, a long time
if You're, traveling to, israel in particular you had A,
stamp from israel you would. Get jammed up as a
standing policy of some other countries, in the region and
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this was so frequent and so well Known that indeed
israeli officials would sometimes give you the stamp on a
separate piece of paper so that you can take it out.
Of your passport but then also we have to mention
that depending on the country, you go to if you
are Going to a western country and you've Been traveling
in tehran or You have, an iranian stamp then you're
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probably also going to. Get some questions so how much, Does,
this change Well that's.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
WHAT i'm asking i think with so many of these
things in the scrutiny, already in place and you kind
of more or less being at the MERCY of the
tsa and of the government at the border that you're
passing through, and passport control it just doesn't seem like that,
much added scrutiny and that there are certain individuals that
maybe get scrutinized. Even MORE already so i don't know
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that it makes me feel any LESS comfortable than i
already am with.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
The international travel here's why it's. A big deal and
it doesn't matter if you travel all the Time. Like
myself renal it doesn't matter, if, You say hey i'm
happy to stay within the borders of. MY own country
i would argue this has very little to do, with
national security and this is more about see this is
(51:39):
a larger pattern of what seems at this point to
be a purposeful move To Isolate the united states and
also to normalize the idea that it's bad to have
any criticism of, the current ADMINISTRATION which is i, Hate
to say i'm. RIGHT about it i think it's alied, away,
(52:00):
from democracy.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
No, No question ben can you help me understand a
little more about how those. Things are connected this idea
of like, a deeper scrutiny looking more into family relations and,
things like that an, INCREASED codified measure i guess of
like looking at, social media history it's literally.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Just tad people it's just these lists that, ARE being.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Discussed i believe so there's.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
A there's a recent discussion if they are making a
list of people that are considered to be under the,
loosest of, terms you. Know domestic terrorists but it does
seem that some of that just involves being openly critical
of the government.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
One hundred percent, making a list. Checking it, twice you
know if a if a non democratic administration makes a,
rule that, says for. Instance six seven we have interpreted,
as you Know as it alsha gets the dictator rallying cry,
a dog whistle then a country being sovereign is completely
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in its rights to deny you entry, for any basis
for any arbitrary. Reason they decide and this goes for
so many different different countries. Around the, world you know
like you go to, so for instance think about. It
this way think about A, country, like thailand right which
has some very, very harsh rules very strict rules about
(53:29):
saying anything that can be seen as derogatory to. The
royal family you could have posted a meme that you
thought was funny, four, years ago right and you Don't.
Even speak ti you just thought it was. A cool
cartoon and then if they had a, law like this
they go through social media, and they, say oh no you're.
(53:49):
Not coming in you're png persona non, grata or worse you.
Could be arrested it reminds me also of those stories
about people who have, ever used narcotics but they went
to a place that had very harsh narcotic laws and
they how's the, old folklore go they had a poppy
seed bagel or, Something like that they'll make a drug test.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Come. UP positive yeah i.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Mean LUCKILY you and i have not been. In those
situations BUT these laws i think are worrying, or these
proposals because they're sliding further, away from democracy even though
it might seem not like a big deal.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
At the, time you, Know, IT'S funny ben i was
definitely looking at this more through a lens of like
how it affects, like us domestically like traveling to. Other
countries potentially but, TO your point i think the way
this does connect to that is that this is sort
of a first step in ultimately then doing the same
thing for.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Our, own people.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
Yeah which we know, is already happening but it just
seems like that's the, trajectory of it like the.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Slope.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Of it right and this is also part of how. It.
Works too right, so if, you for instance you might
travel to another COUNTRY, not, the us right and you get,
to passport control you, get to customs, your, bag's fine
right and they're fine with whatever you're, Carrying in there and, then, they,
(55:13):
say oh also please. Unlock your phone and if, you
say NO why do i have to? Unlock my phone
then they will. Just detain you they'll get a warrant
and then you're waiting somewhere for however many. Hours it
takes once they, open your phone they'll have so many
more questions because you. Raised a, stink you know it
(55:37):
can get. UGLY really quickly i think we should, all
be concerned especially to that point you raised there, at
the end the idea of normalizing, the, sliding, Scale, right
especially oh we were talking about. This off air maybe
this is, where we end especially because the news just
broke about denaturalizing or removing the citizenship of up to
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Twenty Three million. UNITED states citizens.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
I just don't understand. HOW that's constitutional i. Think it's not.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
It's it's not there, are rare exceptions and.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
IT'S such a, i don't know it's just, a fear maneuver.
A fear tactic so much.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
That's, going, On yeah yeah and for anybody wants to
know the numbers there that would be enacting something like that, would,
result in uh would open the door to remove citizenship
from one out of thirteen People In. The united states
this has happened. In the past there, are some there
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there is a little bit of a legal, fig leaf
here but most of the most of the policies about
removing naturalized citizenship or revoking That. Citizenship for americans it
comes from, like war crimes like finding out someone was
secretly and and made IT to the us, and, then,
(57:02):
saying oh hey you can't do that because your real
Name is Not. Johnny.
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Hello, and welcome back to the show. My name is Noel.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Our colleague Matt is on adventures and will be returning soon.
They call me Ben. We're joyed as always with our
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welcome to December fifteenth, twenty twenty five. We have so
much stuff to show you, right dead smack Metal of
the month mm hmm yeah, and the middle of the
last month, which English, being such a weird language, probably
has a specific word for the middle of the last
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month of a year.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's like the penalty, the penulty. No, that doesn't work.
We'll have to figure.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, well we'll figure it out. We will report back,
and we'll report back to you because you'll be listening
in the future. We're so glad you joined us. If
you want to give us a little end of the
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to do. We also have so many strange, strange things. No,
it's good to have you back on strange News. We
had so many weird stories that popped in and out
of the media.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Oh my gosh, things are popping for sure in the
strange news world. Yeah, but I mean speaking of being
midway through the month, and I guess I think the
official way would just be mid dash whatever the month.
So we're in the mid December of a long December,
and there's definitely reason to believe in time travel apparently,
or at least figurative time travel.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The idea of.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Memory jumping in time mentally and like memories relating to
kind of like intuition and those feelings of deja vu
almost having more of a scientific backing. This is something
that you were mentioning like, and I'm fascinated.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And in ridiculous history. Also, I I pitched and we
concluded together with our pal Max Williams, that long December,
by counting crows, is in fact a sleeper Christmas, Aul.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
No question about it, No question about it.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But yeah, speaking of sleeper stuff, what's the deal with
all of this? Like, is it dream based, our dreams,
our future selves visiting us in the present. What's all
the science behind this timey whimy stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
What's the deal with linear time? We would say, is
Andy Rooney on sixty minutes?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, that's the reference that give credit is due. So
I felt suck an egg.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So we also want to we we've got so much
more stuff to get to. We have some uh some
me Marie ahead for you. We have some odd culture wars,
some heist news. We've got to get to this idea
of linear time. And just to demonstrate what we're talking about,
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we'll dive in afterword from our sponsors because it's a
linear time joke.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Answer linear time jump or nonlinear depending on how you're
experiencing time in the podcast form.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And I'll say it at the end of the year,
if you know how the fast forward button works, man
all the secrets and we have returned. So for any
of our fellow conspiracy realists who have checked out our
series on Dreams Predicting the Future, you may recall that
(04:11):
there's a lot of nuanced stuff going on in two
specific disciplines, the concept of neuroscience. Well three, the concept
of neuroscience, the concept of quantum mechanics, and of course
the concept of how humans perceive time versus what time
actually is. We want to thank multiple listeners who wrote
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to us and hipped us to an article from November
twenty six, twenty twenty five, which was far gone now
about the concept of a quantum entangled consciousness, the idea
that your gut feelings or your hunches may maybe more
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than your unconscio telling you about the current moment. No,
I want to throw to you guys. Noel, you first,
and then Dylan if you will you after. Have you
ever had a strong hunch, feeling or intuition or like
a gut vibe that turned out to be true? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean it's yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
The fact that we've got words like deja vu or
a spree descalier, the French idea of like the idea
you get after the fact, the spirit of the staircase.
It's all describing like a phenomenon that I think a
lot of us have experienced and maybe not quite known
how to articulate.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And you're asking me to think of one in particular.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I don't know that I could, but it's more of
a genre of feeling of kind of like being in
a situation or in a space, a physical space where
something hits you that feels like it's coming from outside
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Hmm, that's a good way to put it, No, Dylan,
how about you, man?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I get deja vu like once a month. It's usually
about twenty seconds of what I think is going to
happen next, and able to predict.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's always so mundane.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I feel the exact same way. I've had very
powerful incidents of this what we're describing here that probably
saved my life. However, most of them, to your point,
have been mundane. Like you're sitting in a restaurant and
you hear a voice like Nola was saying, a deep,
still voice inside of you that seems to come somehow
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from outside of you that says, oh, here comes that
guy ordering linguini, and then you know, the table next
to you guy says, I think I'll have the linguini,
and like I've been here before, and then life continues
as normal.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's never lottery numbers.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's never lottery numbers, right, and it's strange because lottery
winning the lottery is sort of predictive of changing one's environment,
not preserving one's environment or state of current existence. We
do see a lot of stories after disasters of people saying, hey,
(07:10):
I had a weird dream.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well premonition.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I mean, it's used so frequently in like storytelling, this
idea of like something, I mean, what was it that
was that movie It was pretty bad with Nicholas Cage
about the plane crash where he has the premonitions like
or something about numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Or to finish this up, the idea that like nine
to eleven here in the United States is one of
the best examples because in retrospect there were so many
people who said they had some inkling right, and I
was going to use the phrase fight he says too
that told them not to get on the plane, right,
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Or the people who don't go to school during a
mass shooting, or the people who don't make it onto
a plane that crashes for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I mean, Donnie Darko does a good job of talking
about the time or weaving that into a sort of
like your future self warning your past self, but it
being presented in some esoteric, bizarre kind of premonition y
spidy sensey way.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And the movie that.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I was thinking of was Knowing stylized where the eye
is a one and it's like about Nicholas Cage Alex
Proy is directed, who did The Crow, having all of
these premonitions associated with disaster events, and I do believe there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Is a plane crash.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So it's definitely on brand, you know, for this kind
of talk, at least in the fictional space.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But you're saying, there's a little bit more to it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Now the scientists have come out with some info about
what this actually is.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well, they're arguing, okay, that they're arguing something that we
predicted in some previous explorations, some previous episodes again on dreams,
predicting the future, on the concept of quantum entanglement. If
we go to an excellent Popular Mechanics article, and again
thank you to everybody who sent this our way, you'll
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see that thejournalist Elizabeth Rain has built out what scientists
are saying. They're saying that what you're experiencing when you
have deja vu like Tennessee or yours truly, or when
you have a something that feels precognitive or predictive or
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violates linear time. What you're actually having are memories from
the future, and there's a lot of deep water here
that is, to be clear, incredibly controversial. To understand more
about this, we have to go to the ideas posed
by a parapsychologist named Dean Radden RDN. We've mentioned him
(09:44):
multiple times in episodes of the show. He is a PhDs,
the chief scientist at a place called Institute of Noetic
Sciences or get this acronym iods ions. They're based out
in California. They are entirely dedicated to the study of
unexplained phenomena, and one of these would be the nature
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of time and how humans experience it. So Doc Dean says, quote,
time is not how we experience it on an everyday level.
In quantum mechanics, time may not even be part of
our physical reality. It's not that time does not exist,
it just behaves in a much stranger way than how
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it is seen through the lens of human experience. It
suggests there's something probably associated with our consciousness that is
different from our everyday experience of time. It meaning our
consciousness is able to jump outside of ordinary experience and
receive information from the past or the future. This is
(10:50):
cool because it reminds me of an earlier study we
read that I think still baffles all of us, where
wherein people who took a random test had measurably better
results if they studied after they took the test. Think
about that. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is weird?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yew.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
How do you describe that phenomenon a little further, Like,
is it almost like it's just in the air, Like
it's sort of like being transmitted to you?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And I don't understand the wild Yeah, it's it's baffling,
right because it violates the order of operations of linear times.
So there's probably an episode about this for us in
the future. But you're asking the right question there, Noel,
the idea in that study, if we want to be
super wild about it, the idea there is that by
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your brain encountering information at any point, including the future,
your brain at any other point is better prepared to
process its environment. So, for example, I don't know the
full extent of how this goes. And just for the record,
(12:04):
the opinions are diverse and controversial. In the world of academia.
A lot of people hate this concept or they say
it's pseudoscience, But if this stuff was true, does that
mean that you would right now, as you're listening tonight,
be more likely to save someone's life with CPR if
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you learned it next year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You really want to bank on that, maybe just you're
you're evangelist for CPR certification.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I swear one day I'm going to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
But yeah, gosh, I just don't know what you're supposed
to do with this information.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It just doesn't seem like if it is, if it is.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
A phenomenon that exists, it seems like a little bit
haphazard as to the frequency of it, And like, is
it something that you can really set your watch by,
no pun intended.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I don't know right yeah, And we don't know what
to do with it right now because we're still practicing
linear limited experiences of time. So maybe in the future
we already do know what to do with it. I
don't know. This is again, this has set up for
an excellent episode in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think so too.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You know, sorry to keep harping on movies, but it,
you know, reminds me of Minority Report and the idea
of reacnizing these precogs and this way of how do
you like take that, find it the way it occurs,
identify those people who are maybe more open to it,
and then like somehow jack them into a larger system
like you know, human matrix batteries that then feed like
(13:40):
some sort of like government program.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's nuts and if you if you want to learn more,
folks go to no etic dot org n O E
t I C dot O r G. It's a it's
a nonprofit institution headed by doctor Dean and friends that
looks into ideas of parapsychology. Also it also links up
(14:06):
to Okay, so from their perspective, precognition is almost just
another genre of remote travel like the CIA's Gateway program
or Stargate as it's called. And that was very interesting
to us as a crew when we were talking with
multiple highly lauded, highly credentialed scientists who were involved in
(14:33):
stuff like this. You remember when we went through that
phase we're super into remote viewing. We talked about Uri Geller,
we spoke with Russell tar my favorite.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Still.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I always mentioned that I just can't believe we have
got to have that conversation with He's the perfect example
of like bridging that gap between science and the unknown,
you know, sort of take scientific approach to these kinds
of phenomenon that tends to defy explanation. Whether or not
he successfully was able to like train psychic spies, I
(15:10):
wasn't there. I don't know what are your thoughts on that, Ben,
because that's exactly what we're talking about here, is if
this was something that could be nailed down in a
repeatable fashion, at what point is the CIA going to
start wanting to know more about it and can it
be taught to figure out how to harness this?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you think targ was onto something?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think he was asking and is asking the right questions.
And one thing that popular Science, not the magazine, but
popular science reporting often forgets is that there's not only
nothing wrong with asking weird questions, it's the nature of
how scientific exploration works. So a lot of the more
(15:51):
skeptical of us in the crowd this evening are going
to hear the p word parapsychology or psychic powers or
anything of that nature and immediately dismiss it as quackery,
flawed methodology, or incompetence. But we have to remember, earlier
skeptics said the same thing about the heliocentric model of
(16:14):
the Solar system, which is now accepted as fact. So
we have to be extremely careful not to be overly
zealous or dogmatic in our skepticism. One thing that was
really cool about this, and we'll move on after this point,
is that old Doc Dean was working at the University
(16:35):
of Nevada in the mid nineties nineteen nineties, and he
was wrestling with this question of whether or not gut
feelings intuition awareness transcended linear time. So he built out
this experiment. Each of the participants got wired up to
an EEG machine and then they would face a computer screen.
(17:00):
This is all in the Popular Mechanics article we mentioned earlier,
and here's the pitch they give to the participants. All right,
your brain is being monitored. You are looking at a
computer screen. A random image will pop up when you
press a button, and the EEG is going to gauge
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your brain's activity, your conscious reaction to whatever image pops
up within five seconds between the prompt and the image.
The images are going to be binary. It's either very
positive like a sunrise, you know, like a hallmark, car
sure or very negative like a car crash or a
structure fire, and predictions of seeing a positive image had
(17:45):
no change in brain activity. But going back to the
comments I was saying earlier about dreaming of a car crash,
et cetera, if there was a negative image on the way,
the brain activity occurred before the negative image was show,
which means that is it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
A pattern thing?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Though?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Is it like something to do with how many times
they go through the cycle and then your brain almost
starts to like predict what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Next, right, right right, like playing rock paper systems or something.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
How many times are their false reads of the next
thing too? Like I'm wondering at a certain point, you'd
really have to get granular with that, Dana.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
To prove a trend of that, like these were accurate.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Like physiological responses to a thing that had not yet appeared.
But if there's two flavors of image, then the chances
are about fifty to fifty of getting one or the other, right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
To predict, we're talking about their statistical significance. That's what
I'm asking yeah to find or glean statistical significance. One
study is not enough so since that point in Nevada,
in the Nevada in the nineteen ninety this type of
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what they call presentiment study has been successfully replicated a
little less than four dozen times. So it does appear
that there was something there, and similar earlier researches is
probably what launched our friends at the shop to do
their own pre cog investigations, you know, and they even
(19:25):
the CIA even hired statiticians to review the work that
they did, and those statiticians, for one reason or another,
declared the CIA's findings statistically reliable before they were declassified
in nineteen ninety five. So you may be predicting the future.
(19:49):
Gavin de Becker's excellent book We always recommend The Gift
of Fear. It is a must read. Whether or not
you believe in quantum entanglement of your brain throughout time,
whether or not you believe that it's all just unconscious
signals that are getting put toward you in a vibe
or a spidy sense, you should listen to your gut.
(20:11):
I think you should always listen to your gut. If
you're walking somewhere right and all of a sudden you
hear a powerful voice in your head. Saying go left
and you meant to go right, just go left.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I wonder too, though, like how disconnected or different this
is just from good old fashioned intuition or like instinct,
you know, like at what point does it become seeing
the future, and at what point does it just become
kind of like your body and cognition sort of recognizing.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
A pattern and like kind of queuing you in a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, that's what I'm recommending again, The Gift of Fear
by Gavin de Becker. Please do check it out, because
things will trigger your trip your unconscious radar a lot
more quickly than they'll trip your conscious radar, which suffers
from ideas of social dynamics and suffers from ideas of
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what is or is not considered appropriate behavior in a
given environment.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Hey, Ben, speaking of ideas that once seemed outlandish, like
helio centricism and what have you, one that I think
we both still in general is accepted to be pretty
outlandis is this idea that the earth is flat?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is the cool if we move on to a quick
fun story about that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, but it better be fine.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I hope it's fine.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It could potentially be fine, Ben, Well, Yeah, I didn't
even put in the dock, and I just realized, Yeah,
this is something that we had all chatted about briefly
in our group text. The CEO of Columbia Sportswear a
an outerwear company based in Portland. They you know, puffy
jackets and the like. I think they're kind of considered
like to be sub standard, like a couple of rungs
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below like a Patagonia or like a north Face or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I have heard some.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Things about maybe that they don't make the best products
on the face of the Earth. But they're known, they've
been around, and their CEO is challenging the public to
prove that the Earth is flat. In exchange for that proof,
CEO Tim Boyle told The New York Times and blasted
the out across the Columbia's social channels that he would
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give the company and all its assets to any flat
earther who could successfully prove to him beyond a shadow
of a doubt that the Earth is flat. He said,
I've seen your manifestos, admired your diagrams, watched you proudly
stand on your well flat ground. So here's the deal.
It's time to put your map where your mouth is
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and he has some pretty, you know, ironclad caveats for
like what it's going to take to prove to him
beyond a shadow of a doubt. And he gets real
funny with it. He goes, if you actually find it,
snap a photo, send it to us, and you won't
just have bragging your rice. You'll have everything owned by
the company, all of it. The mannequins, coffee machines, snowshoes,
boggins off its plants, even the taxidermy beaver in the cafeteria,
(23:04):
all yours. So what he requires, what to him would
constitute proof of this idea that the word that the
Earth is flat is the following. He needs a video
or a photo showing a visible physical end to the
planet Earth. We're talking infinite sheer drop abyssle, void clouds
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cascading into infinity.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Very visual. I like that.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And it does not account if it's the These things
do not count as the edge of the Earth. Things
like a clifftop in Seattle, a called a sack in Kansas.
Are your buddy Dave legally changing his name to the edge.
This is obviously a delightful, uh marketing ploy.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't know, it's a lot of fun, Ben, what
do you think.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Do you think what kind of First of all, what
kind of responses do you think they're going to get?
Is this is this opening a real bag of badgers
that their media, the handlers are gonna have to be
sifting through for some time.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Thanks for saying bag of badgers, because I'm a fan
of flat bag theory. I don't think there are any
badgers to this one. It'll be Internet trolls, It'll be
people who may have been victimized by disinfo campaigns. One
of the things that always said, since we made our
first flat Earth video low these many years ago, for
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anybody who still practices linear time, ultimately there's a very
small group of people who have been far enough away
from the planet to see it as an actual orb
They are astronauts. And I yet again want to shout
out the terrible joke for all our long time conspiracy
theorists where we had our flat Earth video end with
(24:44):
do you trust astronauts? So maybe maybe that's the question they.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Have foot It's out there.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, there's astronaut footage, so you can find that the show,
you know, them exiting the atmosphere and leaving behind a
quite a round miracle planet.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So my question again to everybody is the same question,
do you trust astronauts or do you subscribe to the
real the new flatter theory, which is the case ideas
shaped Earth. That's the one you got to think about, folks.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, so's it's it's more of a pie shaped earth.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
It's more of a pie shaped Earth, which doesn't violate
flatter theory, but it is rollable, which explains earthquakes right,
and it is layered. This is great. I'm not walking
away from this joke. And I know several people are
laughing while we're recording.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And I guess I'm thinking of an uncut case idea.
So you could have the cut case of dia version
of it where it is literally like a there's a
tip to the earth and then there's like the broadside.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I can't wait till yeah, yeah, these are great questions, though,
I can't wait till somebody writes to us. And please, folks,
here's your homework over the holiday. Get us find to
us a religious text. Add do your best like distorted
interpretation to support the idea of not flat earth theory
(26:07):
like casadilla earth theory.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Well sure, and also if you're writing to Colombia trying
to get their assets, which, by the way, I was
confused about this. They list in the the marketing stuff
behind this pitch. I guess they're just being silly because
they say their assets are worth one hundred thousand dollars,
which of course is not the case. They are They
have subsidiaries other brands, Prana Soil and Mountain Hardware, and
(26:31):
all of.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That together be valued at more than three billions.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So it is one of those things where you know, Wow,
what if the proof were to come and it really was,
would they really, you know, put their money where their
mouth was. He does end the whole thing with, hey,
flat earthers doing me a favor if you're going to
the edge of the earth where Columbia.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So it is, Yeah, this is good, good marketing.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And with that we're jumping to some memory because what
is consciousness if not a mimetic exploration?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
And we had returned Ben, I would pose back to
you the question that you posed to the audience on
our last ad break, What is consciousness if not a
mimetic cycle of experience?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And paraphrasing, but I believe that's pretty close.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, Noel, you Matt Tennessee and yours truly have been
talking about memes for a long time because there's some there.
We love them. They always make us laugh, some of
them make us think, and memes also get very deep
into the nature of consciousness and thoughts. So this is
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a surprisingly good segue. But I believe that we have
all been dealing with on some level the rise of
a meme in particular. Could you give us the breaking news?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I guess it's yeah, I don't know. I think six'
seven is how the meme is being referred. To is
it even a? Meme like? What that's the.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Thing we think of memes as being like image, macros you,
know with some text on, it or like a looping
video or.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Something but then you've got.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
These things that kind, OF i don't, know loom even
larger than. That and it's not even one thing in
particular that you can refer. To but this six seven,
trend it's popular With Jen alfa of just you, know saying.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Six seven that's literally what it.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Is and like a lot of things in Gen alfha
kind of brain rock, culture it is inherently. Nonsensical it
can mean many many, things but Ultimately it's almost like
when the secret word of the day is said On
Pee Wee's playhouse and everybody like just freaks. Out at
least that's what's happening at in and out burger chains
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in The West.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Coast AND i love what we're saying here because the
the real kick or the real umami of something like
this meme seems to be not so much the concept
of saying sick seven, itself but watching people who are
not in on the joke react to, It.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Sure that's what it, is that's, right or try to
get in on it with even more disastrous and cringe worthy.
Results you, know one of the these brain rot slang
things is on its way. Out when you see adults
really desperately trying to get in on the, fund it
just doesn't work. Anymore that's why they are increasingly, esoteric
and it would seem and. Nonsensical it's just about kind of, like,
(29:30):
no you cannot wrap your head around this because it's
nothing in particular that you could. Grasp and, so as
one of the resident what are we gen, X i
guess or are we on the cusp or something like,
that we are not qualified to actually use these.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Terms we are not, allowed but we can.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
At least talk about them from an anthropological, standpoint, right.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah cultural. COMMENTARY i think technically you're a millennial. Cusp
that would be your sociological. Astrology, okay thank, You ben.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Preciate that's going to inform every DECISION i make from
here on. Out But i'm just going to read a
little bit from This mashable article about what does six seven?
Mean here's why kids are saying six seven over and
over and over. Again repetition's part of. It parents everywhere
are likely frightened to count to ten in their own
homes lest they tempt their children by getting to the
numbers six and. Seven if that means nothing to, you
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then you successfully avoided the six seven. Meme congratulations to,
you and you're blissfully offline. Life that sounds so, HEALTHY
i agree So, essentially at in and out burger chains
across the, country kids have been waiting. Around if you've
ever been to an in and, out they do tend
to have they do a lot of. Volume let's just say.
So either the drive through line is really really long
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wrapped around the, building or if you're, inside you're part
of a crowd and they're calling out numbers and whenever
they get to order number sixty, seven there's videos of
kids just freaking. Out LIKE i, said like the pee wee.
Thing if anybody isn't getting that, reference it's when they
would say a word of the day and everyone just
kind of. Screams and that seems to be what's been
happening in and. Out franchise's a little.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Bit, destructive they would, argue, right and the fact that
it's being filmed as well for the likes for the.
Content it calls to mind in this age of, information
performative things like the people filming themselves demanding sege wand
sauce or the specialty sauce made during The rick And
(31:26):
morty era as a promotion for one of their, episodes
in which people didn't actually necessarily want the, sauce but
they wanted the. Attention they wanted to be to see
and be seen doing this kind of performative. Stuff AND
i think this is a direct a direct, parallel, right
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yelling six' seven and then, getting filmed and then you
can propagate it, Right.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
RIGHT and i stop myself short of getting to a
little bit more of. The background if you want to
trace it to. A thing it's this Song by scrilla
Called Dut, dute yeah where he references six' seven. In
this cadence and but the thing that made it go
viral was this kid at. A basketball game it's like
a TikTok where he just says six to seven while
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doing kind of like, a finger emote and that is.
What TOOK off but i think this speaks to what.
You're talking About ben and mashaville did a great job
of kind of.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Summing this up the meme isn't really, about the song,
or about.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Basketball or about height like like, six foot seven.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And even really.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
About the numbers it is simply an excuse, to, Be
silly uh and there's a lot of that going. Around
these days have you heard of this phenomenon That's happening
in german called?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Putting mit gobble.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Tell us, About, putting mcgobble well.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
If, you know german it just means putting with a
fork and it's literally just a bunch of people assembling
in public places to eat pudding.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
With. A fork oh that reminds me of that that
Elderly Man in new york who just put out an
open call for people to smoke. A free cigarette but
do you?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Remember seeing that and he also made a big, point
of saying if you, don't already, smoke don't smoke it's.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Bad for YOU but if.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I. Will check IDs, but but, yeah people love especially
now an era, of growing divisiveness where so many terrible,
things are happening the world's ending for, someone every day
it's kind of fun to get together with stranger strangers
and be united. INNOCUOUS and silly. I, LOVE that yeah i.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Know it's true there are divisive and, also mean spirited
and the discourse can be just so aggressive and a little.
Bit SOUL draining so, i Fully Understand especially gen alpha
coming up and experiencing a lot of this stuff and
almost needing something to, soften the blow or at least
just kind. Of perpetuating that this is sort of humor
certainly been Around Longer, than jen alpha but it seems
to be more and more absurdist and in a not,
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mean spirited way in like a more Of A silly
billy willie.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Kind of.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Way, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, that's, My point, right, somebody says hey let's just
get together and watch this guy eat an. Entire rotisserie chicken,
that's ANOTHER example and i, think that's beautiful this kind of.
TOWN square surrealism i want more of it. In the,
WORLD you know i can see it now because the.
(34:17):
Statute has passed i'm not sure, about the legality but
for a long time in various parts, OF the WORLD
i would i would find myself in or various Parts Of.
THE united states i can be, MORE specific now i
would create fake wanted posters for. Non human things and
one of my favorites was a missing poster for a boomerang,
(34:40):
and it said no need to, call the police just
wait here. For a second.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I'll come back, it always does might.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Take a minute, BUT all saying i. THINK we're aligned
i think we're agreeing on the idea of this. Fundamentally human,
thing you know there is a whistle like. A graveyard
whistle there is no humor. Like gallows humor but sometimes
people in power or entities and power try to be
(35:08):
artificially in, on the, game like, hello Fellow Kids The steve,
bush emi stuff or or they find themselves overwhelmed by
some of. These, organic, trends yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
No it's, true but again like the mean spirited, side,
of it too is a thing like even when the
folks in power Currently In the united states are trying
to get in on some, meme type action oftentimes they're very.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Other and mean. Spirited and pointed like Even Like when
pete Hesith DOING the turtle ai cartoons like bombing drug.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Boats OR whatever and i believe the publishers of That
Child that beloved children's character came out and said, Not cool.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Man but they.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Almost, always, do well yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
They got to separate.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Themselves from it, but you know the six seven of
it all is just so much more, soft and, gentle
and like how could you? Even, Weaponize, THAT right like
i don't even know how you could in a negative
way because it is inherently.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
It's, Just, ephemeral, right.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Well yeah yeah that's what we're, setting, up here folks
because we're talking about these reactions from the power structure
when a funny thing gets a little too funny, or too, well,
we say inconvenient especially in a place. Based on.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Inconvenience THAT'S true and, I don't know i spend a
lot of time just now talking about how these things
are a little kinder and gentler than maybe some, of
the darker more mean spirited of service tumor, of the
past and that's certainly, still out there but there, IS a,
certain i guess aggressive repetition to it that can be
perceived as, almost like combative and that's sort of what's
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Happening in These in, and out burgers these kids that
are gathered around and just going nuts every time six.
SEVEN comes up i believe sixty nine also. Figures Into
it So in and, out's just like we don't want to.
Play this game we're removing the numbers sixty seven and
sixty nine from, our order system so much like a
building in the past that was built without, a thirteenth
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floor just not, To tempt Fate in and out has
mixed the numbers sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And, sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah nice, or not nice or or. WHATEVER you prefer
i want to take a second To Shout, out miles
gray who introduced me to six seven quite, some time ago, And,
he said ben, you know what you don't have to
worry about what it means if someone says, it to
you just, Go doop doop and he was referencing the
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song that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Mentioned earlier there we also know that we are living
in a time where reality in the online world. Becomes,
INCREASINGLY negotiable now, i will say this feels like if
we're just hearing, the news here The In and out
burger cup empires react action feels maybe, a little draconian
(38:04):
maybe a. Little bit overdone was this? Really a problem
were there? That many people were they like burning down
in and out?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Screaming six, Seven certainly not BUT it's just i think
was becoming a distraction to maybe employees or maybe making.
Others feel, uncomfortable, but again though like if you've Ever
been To, in and out like, at peak hours it's
like you're at a. CONCERT or, something i mean it's
it's pretty, wild in there like especially if it's like
later at night and maybe people have, had you know
they're going for their late. Night greasy burger i've. Had
(38:36):
SOME drinks so i. DON'T fully understand i almost wonder
if they're getting in on the trend in a way,
by you know making a making, into, a story yes
saying that they have.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Erased the number it's. Definitely, reportable something.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah it's it's if it's not uh not in, a
weak marketing then it's definitely an example of. The streisand
effect it's just. Further empowering stuff and what do they
say then instead of, six and seven, Do they say
i'll have a five plus one and an? Eight minus
one how do they.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Order numbers like like like you, you are, assigned you
know you're number sixty five or number they're just.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
In, the system yeah there's like.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
The Number four in asia. Or number. Thirteen JUST so.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
And i also just, want TO mention like i understand
how these kinds of trends, can be disruptive like say
in a classroom or like. A, learning environment sure and
it is becoming increasingly kind of foreboten to like use.
These in, school but again how are you going to
crack down on? KIDS being, Unruly i mean god bless
all the teachers out there having to contend with some of.
These new things but it has there are educators, that are,
(39:48):
talking you know pretty extensively with the media about how
some of. These things there they're like kids are not
allowed to say certain of these brain rot terms because
it becomes.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
A significant distraction.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
But in an in, and out breaker it just seems
LIKE it'd be, I don't know i don't quite get
the get the concern unless it's like literally causing like.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
LIKE riot conditions.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't get the hubbub bub YOU know. What i
mean it's not as if there are a Bunch of
mad max Level raiders and reavers running up on running
up on an in and out. SCREAMING six seven i
do appreciate the, Point about educators and thank you to
everybody in the audience. Involved in education you've sent us
some straight. Up horror stories and thanks to everybody who
(40:30):
followed up as well about our recent mention a while
ago on how the short form content may indeed lead
to decrease the tension spans and some very serious changes.
In cognitive behavior so thanks. For, writing it.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah and that has to be adapted to. A certain
degree it does seem like public education is adapting to,
Some of this like in, my kid's school they have
like a student center where kids are allowed to go
if they're feeling overwhelmed or they're having a hard. Time
focus saying and it does seem like depending, on the
school they have infrastructure and things in place for kids
that are dealing with some of this as short, attention
(41:08):
span anxiety all of these things that maybe are a
product of SOME of the ptsd that that generation experience
COMING up in covid and, all of that like, with
remote schooling and they are actually options for certain kids
that are struggling with this stuff to do school fully remote.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Or partially remote so it's cool to see.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
This being adapted to by educators and important that they're
keyed into.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
What's going on.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
And speaking, of culture wars ONE thing that i ALWAYS
want to i always want to emphasize whenever you hear
about insert here generation has a problem with insert this,
activity or whatever please. Remember it's cyclical it's ubiquitous throughout.
(41:52):
The human species when Whatever came after gregorian chant started
getting popular in, monasteries and churches there was an entire
generation of, people, who said no. Forget this stuff gregory
chanced the. Way to go. One culture war we're not
gonna spend. Time with this but one other attempted culture
(42:13):
war that's happening right now comes from none other Than Our,
buddy marco rubio who HAS Ordered The us state department
to stop using the calibri fought and Go Back To.
Times new roman he said it, was too weird it.
Was too soon it's like speaking of. Picking one's battles
(42:35):
that is an example of how silly folks can get
we're running a. Little bit long what do we think
about taking one. More ad brak.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Let's take one more ab break and then come back
with the banger of. A closing story.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
We're back with several. Banger closing stories if it's all, right,
With everybody guys let's start with a bit of, a
cautionary tale just a heads up, without being alarmist. Without
frightening anybody you may have seen the news if you,
travel often abroad as we, end up doing if you
(43:13):
find yourself in a situation where you ARE not a
us national and you are traveling from a country that
allows you to get, here visa free you have some
stuff on the horizon you should. Be concerned about let's
talk about, it This, Way. So noel, tennessee, have you
(43:34):
guys ever had a weird moment when you come BACK.
To the us have you ever been detained or have
only as far as, you're comfortable answering or got any
weird questions or? Anything like?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
That, not detained now, knock on wood.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Just held up maybe had my dad gone through a
LITTLE more than i, Would HAVE liked but i try
to plan for that.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Kind of stuff How. ABOUT you dylan i.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Went through customs once Coming Back from saint croix and
THEY asked where i had been staying. ON the island
I told them i had been staying, with a friend,
and they're like is your? Friend here, now like that
it WAS almost.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Like i made up the friend brind in the. Room
right now.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
You wouldn't know and he goes to another school Break out.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
The, luija, board yeah okay This is why i'm asking
because a lot of people, have found, themselves you know
in unexpected situations or like, You, Were, saying dylan uh
you come BACK to the us, and, You're saying HEY i'm.
A us citizen why was not? Expecting these questions so this.
Level of interrogation or you're going, to another uh you're going.
(44:35):
TO another country i remember WHEN one country i. Was.
Going to uh they gave, you the uh the paperwork
on the plane as, you were landing and one of
the questions was have you ever committed an act? Of
moral turptitude not a crime that qualifies, as moral turptitude
but an act? Of MORAL turpitude and, I, was thinking
(45:00):
oh what. A weird question they're asking have you? Ever
been bad, like you know that's like when you're filling
out for anybody who's. Worked in retail sometimes back in
the days of, paperwork for applications they would have these
this series of questions that, were so, strange something like
(45:20):
have you ever stolen from a job? Or an employer
and then the second one was if you saw someone stealing,
from your job would you tell?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Anyone?
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Who checks yes, and, then, no like yeah steal. All,
The time no i'm. Not a snitch hire. Me, pet
smart yeah that's a little bit of. An eye questionaire.
It is right, this is so this is something that
you will need to know if you are Traveling To,
the united states possibly in. The near Future Customs and
(45:54):
Border protection Aka friends of tennessee Have partnered With Apartment
of homeland security to. Say the following this. Is their
pitch if you are eligible TO visit the us for
ninety days, without a visa that's, dozens OF countries the
us is hoping to reserve the right to vet all
(46:21):
of your social media activity for the. Previous five years
so five years of whatever you did or said on
social media. Like, an, audit yeah, yeah just so, like
an audit and you are.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
You for it? OR against IT i think i think
it's reasonable.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
IT'S out, there, i mean like isn't it sort of
a reasonable expectation that that's potentially on, the table anyway
anything that you've got out.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
There, publicly available.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah that's a great that's. A, great point well this
is why we wanted to bring, this, to you folks because.
We have questions is it really an invasion of privacy
if it is, social media history because aren't you talking
in a, publicly accessible space or does it also include
things like your private, conversations on, there you know the
(47:14):
dms that he didn't mean to. Send to people, and
then FURTHER if the us intel apparatus is already as
as thorough as we know, it to be wouldn't they have?
ALREADY clocked you i, would think so if, you're that
bad seems to just fall in line with.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Just, REGULAR vetting yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I don't think i highly doubt the authorities are going
to look at someone's five Last years of, facebook, and
say oh this guy is selling Your radium. On facebook
marketplace we can't let Him Into The. Delta, sky, club.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
No no he, must be.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Ejected escorted out did you hear about that guy that
was a? Like stormed ariana Grande at the wicked, premiere and,
like oh yeah jumped. Over the barricade he was just
like it's discovered wearing a fake mustache and a Wig
At a.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
LADY gaga concert.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I heard him scort it.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
OUT by security i think some eagle.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Eyed fan spotted him In, somewhere IN australia And i
believe melbourne. Where, he's from Yeah what a and like
when the, video of him he's just smirking. At, THE
camera sorry i didn't mean to derail from, the original
story just made me.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Think, of it yeah it's it's already getting kind of
dicey here for Visitors Of the united states because tourism.
Has massively plummeted vegas is pretty much an, overpriced ghost
town and it seems like there are increasingly punitive or
(48:42):
off putting policies being proposed and indeed enacted against, innocent people,
who you know just want to go on a honeymoon
or just want To See the grand canyon or. What have,
you you know like you have to make a one
time payment of forty bucks to visit if you're from
a one is, visa free, countries you also, according to
(49:08):
this will have to provide your telephone numbers and email
addresses over the last five years, for telephone numbers over
the last ten, years for addresses and you have to
give more information about your family members even if they
are not. Traveling with you that gets it just gets more, and, More,
INVASIVE right yeah i get it.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
DOES for sure i guess we've all just kind of
gotten used to this idea of like there is like
there's no illusion of privacy when it, comes to travel,
especially international travel and the idea of like getting stamps.
On your passport and one thing that occurred to me
when you were asking about getting jammed up or held
up or detained it at airports.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Or In customs if, i'm.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Not mistaken there are certain countries that if they if
other countries see that stamp, on your passport they could
jam you up.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
A little bit. One.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Hundred percent yeah the most prominent Example Is. The middle
east so for a long time this isn't as ironclad
as it. Used to be but for, a long time
if You're, traveling to, israel in particular you had A,
stamp from israel you would. Get jammed up as a
standing policy of some other countries, in the region and
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this was so frequent and so well Known that indeed
israeli officials would sometimes give you the stamp on a
separate piece of paper so that you can take it out.
Of your passport but then also we have to mention
that depending on the country, you go to if you
are Going to a western country and you've Been traveling
in tehran or You have, an iranian stamp then you're
(50:45):
probably also going to. Get some questions so how much, Does,
this change Well that's.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
WHAT i'm asking i think with so many of these
things in the scrutiny, already in place and you kind
of more or less being at the MERCY of the
tsa and of the government at the border that you're
passing through, and passport control it just doesn't seem like that,
much added scrutiny and that there are certain individuals that
maybe get scrutinized. Even MORE already so i don't know
(51:10):
that it makes me feel any LESS comfortable than i
already am with.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
The international travel here's why it's. A big deal and
it doesn't matter if you travel all the Time. Like
myself renal it doesn't matter, if, You say hey i'm
happy to stay within the borders of. MY own country
i would argue this has very little to do, with
national security and this is more about see this is
(51:39):
a larger pattern of what seems at this point to
be a purposeful move To Isolate the united states and
also to normalize the idea that it's bad to have
any criticism of, the current ADMINISTRATION which is i, Hate
to say i'm. RIGHT about it i think it's alied, away,
(52:00):
from democracy.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
No, No question ben can you help me understand a
little more about how those. Things are connected this idea
of like, a deeper scrutiny looking more into family relations and,
things like that an, INCREASED codified measure i guess of
like looking at, social media history it's literally.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Just tad people it's just these lists that, ARE being.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Discussed i believe so there's.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
A there's a recent discussion if they are making a
list of people that are considered to be under the,
loosest of, terms you. Know domestic terrorists but it does
seem that some of that just involves being openly critical
of the government.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
One hundred percent, making a list. Checking it, twice you
know if a if a non democratic administration makes a,
rule that, says for. Instance six seven we have interpreted,
as you Know as it alsha gets the dictator rallying cry,
a dog whistle then a country being sovereign is completely
(53:04):
in its rights to deny you entry, for any basis
for any arbitrary. Reason they decide and this goes for
so many different different countries. Around the, world you know
like you go to, so for instance think about. It
this way think about A, country, like thailand right which
has some very, very harsh rules very strict rules about
(53:29):
saying anything that can be seen as derogatory to. The
royal family you could have posted a meme that you
thought was funny, four, years ago right and you Don't.
Even speak ti you just thought it was. A cool
cartoon and then if they had a, law like this
they go through social media, and they, say oh no you're.
(53:49):
Not coming in you're png persona non, grata or worse you.
Could be arrested it reminds me also of those stories
about people who have, ever used narcotics but they went
to a place that had very harsh narcotic laws and
they how's the, old folklore go they had a poppy
seed bagel or, Something like that they'll make a drug test.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Come. UP positive yeah i.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Mean LUCKILY you and i have not been. In those
situations BUT these laws i think are worrying, or these
proposals because they're sliding further, away from democracy even though
it might seem not like a big deal.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
At the, time you, Know, IT'S funny ben i was
definitely looking at this more through a lens of like
how it affects, like us domestically like traveling to. Other
countries potentially but, TO your point i think the way
this does connect to that is that this is sort
of a first step in ultimately then doing the same
thing for.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Our, own people.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
Yeah which we know, is already happening but it just
seems like that's the, trajectory of it like the.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Slope.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Of it right and this is also part of how. It.
Works too right, so if, you for instance you might
travel to another COUNTRY, not, the us right and you get,
to passport control you, get to customs, your, bag's fine
right and they're fine with whatever you're, Carrying in there and, then, they,
(55:13):
say oh also please. Unlock your phone and if, you
say NO why do i have to? Unlock my phone
then they will. Just detain you they'll get a warrant
and then you're waiting somewhere for however many. Hours it
takes once they, open your phone they'll have so many
more questions because you. Raised a, stink you know it
(55:37):
can get. UGLY really quickly i think we should, all
be concerned especially to that point you raised there, at
the end the idea of normalizing, the, sliding, Scale, right
especially oh we were talking about. This off air maybe
this is, where we end especially because the news just
broke about denaturalizing or removing the citizenship of up to
(56:03):
Twenty Three million. UNITED states citizens.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
I just don't understand. HOW that's constitutional i. Think it's not.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
It's it's not there, are rare exceptions and.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
IT'S such a, i don't know it's just, a fear maneuver.
A fear tactic so much.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
That's, going, On yeah yeah and for anybody wants to
know the numbers there that would be enacting something like that, would,
result in uh would open the door to remove citizenship
from one out of thirteen People In. The united states
this has happened. In the past there, are some there
(56:41):
there is a little bit of a legal, fig leaf
here but most of the most of the policies about
removing naturalized citizenship or revoking That. Citizenship for americans it
comes from, like war crimes like finding out someone was
secretly and and made IT to the us, and, then,
(57:02):
saying oh hey you can't do that because your real
Name is Not. Johnny.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
BLUE gen no i mean that's, not that's yeah that's
not what, they're. Talking about though it's a much broader
initiative in the way, it's being discussed and that would
ultimately just like it's just another way of making, people really,
scared you know of, what you're describing ben of saying
the wrong thing and being categorized as some sort, of domestic,
(57:29):
dissident you know and then next, thing you know you're
stripped of your citizenship and.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Bounce and, like incubus said you can't let fear take the. Wheel,
and steer. No. WE can't yeah i also Wanted to,
reference HOOPA stink but i can't remember, the Specific thing
so i'll just say that the reason is that, you,
whatever comes uh we'll be there, with open, ears open,
(57:54):
eyes et. Cetera.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Et.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
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