August 29, 2025 • 37 mins
Oh, praise Enlil! This is our final -- for now -- episode on the concept of the Anunnaki. 'Ben,' Matt, and Noel explore the arguments for 'ancient aliens,' while also discovering real-life, current astronomical information that just might prove a princely seed of truth to all those tall tales of old.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here that makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist friends
and neighbors, we are joining you with a quite rare
and extraordinary three part series. We got so deep into
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the conspiracy and the fact and the fiction surrounding something
called the ann that we just couldn't let it go
without getting into the aliens at least a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh yeah. And we're talking about all this stuff when
there's such exciting information and new research coming out of
places across the world, in Japan and the US, places
that are checking out that Kuiper Belt looking for a
potential new planet that is yet to be discovered and observed.
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And we're talking about stories about aliens coming from a
potentially planet like that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Right now, nothing occurs in a vacuum, and certain poets
would argue that all things that rise must converge.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, indeed, so why don't we join ourselves already in progress?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
This belief, right, this ancient aliens thing is problematic because
it was used historically to just all sorts of hilariously
evil things. And it is true, to be fair that
human civilizations with stark technological differences have encountered each other
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over the course of human history numerous times. In most cases,
the folks with any sort of advantage, be that guns, germs,
or steel shout out to Jared Diamonds. Those folks will
tend to behave quite poorly and they will do extremely
unclean things to the other civilization. So we've got it.
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We've done our you know, due diligence. Talking about the
problems with ancient alien theory, the main thing you have
to know is due to this sparse historical record of
Anunaki in general, there was an opportunity for modern authors
to reframe the anuw Noki myth and simply say, hey,
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this princely seed is all about extra terrestrials. And that's
where we meet. A guy named Eric Vaughan Danigan.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah. So while this had already been the subject of
some pretty fantastic science fiction, speculative fiction, cosmic horror at
the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, and you know,
there was some more journalistic exploration of the idea in
nineteen fifty four, specifically by Harold T. Wilkins and possibly
Emmanuel Velakowski, this idea hadn't really taken hold yet, and
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didn't until nineteen sixty eight, when Danakin's breakout Peace Chariots
of the Gods made the bold claim that the world's
oldest religion, cratid not from the observance of the celestial bodies,
the observance of astronomical movement, or from the natural world itself,
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but rather as a reaction to firsthand experience and contact
with an alien civilization.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yes, gosh it what awesome it hits?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Really?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How tell yeah exactly that that's what that That's what
that does. And again, not from the stories that were
passed down, the tales that were used for teaching lessons
and controlling populations. No, it came from outer space and then,
and really what it does is just putting a different
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lens on all of the ancient writing or inscription that
were recovered back then. Just he's just choosing to look
at a lot of the pictures and a lot of
the interpretations of you know, the various ways in which
some of these things, like the ancient muniform was translated.
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And then as you said, the princely seed, Ben, that's
such a good way to get into this because you
can just use that and then well let's imagine if
you will, it's it means this instead, and I.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Will and we did. Yeah, and I love no, I
love that you're shouting out chariots of the gods because
the original title ends in a question mark, so.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
He I should have put that in fassis on the Salabos.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, yeah, because again it's the it's the question at
the heart really, like are we saying when they write
when they say chariots of the gods? What are they
really saying chariots up there? Or are they just using
the word chariot to say some kind of craft in
the sky because they understand things that move as chariots like.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That, ohnt row So like the Akkadians, like the Assyrians,
like the uh No offense Americans. Uh Von Danakin is
leaning into just what you described there, Matt interpretations arguably
cherry picked passages of ancient carvings, passages of you know,
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like Nakamadi, Red Sea, Sorry Dylan, and you know old
Testament things boss reliefs that appear to depict flying craft
or larger entities in a drawing compared to a smaller
what we assume to be a human being. And maybe
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sometimes those larger giants have wings or horns or whatever.
Eric von Dannikin was formative to our show, Just be
absolutely honest. He wrote a bunch of stuff about this.
His main argument is that certain constructions require a more
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sophisticated technological and what was available to people, to Homo
sapiens at the time. So he's the guy who really
lights the fire under or popularizes the idea of Rapa Nui,
a Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, the Bagdak batteries, all that
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stuff being somehow informed by an extraterrestrial either pre human
or non human sentient species. And then he also argued
that ancient art and iconography proves this true. And so
he sees, you know, he's like, ah, this thing is
flying around. There was an ancient nuclear war in what
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we call South Asia today, Right, there are great sins
committed by people. And if we look at all modern
religions in the seed of this telephone style folklore style,
we can find the proof of what happened. And he
raises a good point in we have to give it
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to him. Vondannakan raises a good point where he says, look,
if ancient people, ancient Homo sapiens encountered this kind of thing,
they would naturally through their cultural framework, assume those were
gods watchers in some religions, nephelip.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
As you said, it would be the lens that they
would see that through. Right, And then how do you
how do you write something like that down? You create
the things that were found, You represent them perhaps as
larger or different than you. They're similar to us, but
they look a little different in the way they're depicted.
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You could see the reasoning, right, and you can see
the exciting concept that's there. And and Vondanakan is not
the only person We're going to talk about a few
other people who who around this time are thinking about
this stuff and doing their own interpretations, doing their own
sometimes translations. Because there are a few people that actually
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begin to learn how to translate this ancient kuneiform, this
Sumerian text, or at least they say that they have,
and they do study. There are people who are studying
this and there, and let's just let's put some emphasis
on this.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
There are so few humans that could read some of
the Acadian stuff, some of the Assyrian stuff, some of
the especially the cuneiform and the Sumerian stuff. So few
people could actually do that. And I would say, on
this planet right now today, there's still a handful of
human beings that can really do that. Well, it is
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rarefied air once you can put in all that work
to learn that stuff. Because really, I mean, why would
you unless you are extremely interested in proving some specific
history or you want to prove really badly that something.
There's another explanation for all.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Of this interesting And look, there are, if we're being honest,
which is the remit of our show, there are unanimous
objections from every single imaginable accredited scientist in any tangentially
related field to von Denikin's exploration. However, he is worth
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our time to mention because his work caught the public interest.
So he's not the Tesla, but he is the Edison
and his work becomes further popularized. It enters the zeitgeist
because one of our patron saints, one of the Anunakias
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stuff they don't want you to know. None other than
Rod Serling, the creator of Twilight Zone, also created this
true story, a documentary about Eric von Donikin's beliefs, and
that was syndicated across the United States. It was the
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first time people heard it. It was promethean. It caught fire.
There was a film adaptation of his first book that
debuts in nineteen seventy and it's coming at just the
right time.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, the.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Cold War is here. There's a space race, right Like,
what better way to talk about aliens than to talk
about them while people are wondering about modern humans exploring space.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, well humans are actively on television going to the moon.
Pretty cool, Like that's happening right now? What are we
going to find up there? It captures the imagination in
a way. Not many things have space, I mean, so
like thinking about other things that might be out there,
or how that could possibly be related to us as
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a spcies that's doom.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Will pause here for a word from our sponsors and
be right back with more well ancient aliens, and we're back.
Humanity has always said one thing, how can I make
this about me? Right? Humanity looks at the moon and
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says like, what is you know? Like, how is this
more about me? And this is where we get This
is where we get to authors like Zechariah Sitchen, and
David Ike. Full disclosure, we did interview David Ike many
years ago. In the past, we did not talk about this,
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but where I would say, where like, you guys help
me on this because you're better at music than I am.
Where Eric von Danakin made like a typical for four
basic beat for a hip hop track. Sitchen comes in
and modifies the drums pal rhythms.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah, Matt's better drum terminology, but that could work.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
What's that? There's a thing I'm gonna lose the name
of it. It's a very specific drum. I was gonna say, no,
it's it's a sampled thing. Amen break or no, maybe
that's wrong. It's there's a very specific drum sample that's
been sampled the most out of any of them.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Funky drummer.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, it's James Brown Ike Doubblefield. Funky drummer is one
of the most sampled drum breaks.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think that might be it. I think that might
be it. I was singing one whose I think it's
called Amen brother or something like that. But there's another one.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That's there's a break as well.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's one that's the one thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Okay, So that's like the Wilhelm scream of drumming.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, yeah, they're just the idea that somebody made that
in a song contextually for that song, but then for
one reason or another, it ends up working even better
in this other song and that becomes even more popular,
and that you know, that group then becomes even more
prolific in terms of record sales back in the day.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, I mean there's all kinds of interesting appropriations like
that in religion, for sure. M hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So take us too with that analogy of God. I
trust falled so so hard on that one. I'm so
happy that worked out. So I didn't know that would work.
But then in that analogy, our buddy z Sitchen would
be that amen break, right, he was.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You talking Zechariah?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh, we're talking zach aryah.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah. One of the most prolific influential authors on the
idea that the Annunaki are the ancient aliens reposed by
Eric Vaughan Danigan. So let's, uh, let's learn a little
bit more about him.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh yes, and as we're doing this, please head on
over to Sitchen dot com. That's s I T C
H I N dot god. Oh, it's a beauty of
a website. Check it out. It's really fun. I enjoy
this so much. He'll take you to the twelfth planet
and well beyond if you head on over there. It's
only one of the books he's written, and there are
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a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, like don again before Sitchin created a series of
books that are wait for it, orbiting his beliefs, Dylan,
I am so sorry to Sitchin. The orbit here. The
ado Noak origin story is something he calls deburu in
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I C I R you and he believes. Yeah, it's
a secret planet. And the reason it's a secret planet
is because it as an elongated elliptical orbit around Earth's
Sun and it takes about three thousand, six hundred years
to complete its circle, to complete its orbit.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, and this is Sitchen's belief. Just remember that this
is his belief. He believed that planet existed, and he
believed that that is where these Anunakia originated. At one
point when that orbit was close enough to Earth. For
one reason or another, these Anunaki took off from that
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planet and landed on Earth. Why because they needed Gold's
that's one of the major beliefs here. They needed gold.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, that's the weirdest thing because his book are his
first how did you put it in earlier's Breakout banger it? Yeah,
is the twelfth planet. He says, this story or this
narrative is readily apparent to anybody who has half their
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Jimmy's about them when they're learning Sumerian mythology, culture and
the written record. And he also has a couple moments
where he's like, do you read knea form my guy?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, much is made up by him about his skills
and training he's done on that kind of thing, and
you know how much of a leader he is in
that kind of translation and understanding, and you know, he,
like Danakin, has a ton of critics. Most I would say,
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I would say it's very similar to the reaction to
Danik and stuff, because again, currently there's no there, at
least there has not been any way to prove anything
about this Nibru concept, and it's kind of wild. If
you look into it enough, you'll find that the concept
is the Aunaki came to Earth to get gold, and
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a lot of the Anunaki, because there were many of them,
didn't like doing the whole manual labor thing of mining
the gold out of the gold mines. So they wanted
to find a way to create some kind of creature
with the stuff around them that would mine the gold.
So they took some of the great apes that were
down there and some of the earth.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Great apes mining gold. Sorry, well, I suppose much like
that game.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
The concept here is that these Anunaki, using their far
advanced technology, I mean they were able to take whatever
space faring craft from their planet to get to Earth,
they genetically engineered what we would consider Homo sapiens, at
least according to the story, right, and those human beings
were made to mine gold. And that's the whole like
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from this standpoint, from this book, from this concept in
the beliefs of Sichion, that is how humanity came to be.
This other race came from Nibru.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Right right, Yeah, this is very much in tune with
later folks. He's also inheriting a little bit from science
fiction that preceded him that was clearly fiction. In Inner
Buddy's's opinion, this civilization is super advanced despite or because
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of their precarious elliptical orbit. And he says, look, these
folks that you're calling Anunaki or Nephelim or not quite gods,
but kind of lowercase g gods. If I can reference
chapter one, they showed up four hundred and fifty thousand
years ago as modern Homo sapes reckoned the calendar. And
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like you were saying, Matt, they're not there to help things.
They're not the big deal capital g gods. They are
the worker bees. They're the blue collar lower g gods.
They are colonialists, right. They're looking for gold in kitchens writing,
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And we have read these books page by page, folks,
and we still can't find a real defensible reason why
it would be gold in specific, other than light implications
that it's a ductile metal that helps with some sort
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of interstellar or Neburian nice Neburian Neburian technology or resource desire.
But that's the thing. They're not the fancy boys.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No iroarchy. The way I think about though, I imagine seriously
humanity in like fifty years and our ability to you know,
go to different places if our technology continues the way
it is, and some of these new breakthrough ways of
propulsion and how to protect ships and these kinds of things.
It's all happening right now. Like, head on over to
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Reddit slash our slash science and you're gonna you will
see right now crazy advances that are happening, stuff that
it didn't feel like it would happen for a while.
And just imagine that, and then us going to some
other planet because we need some more palladium or whatever
the heck, you know, precious metal in order to build
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more things. And it weirdly makes sense, this whole story
of creating humanity or a race of workers on another planet,
because I think back to our discussions about the Moon
and Mars, and like, how will we actually build things
once we arrive to one of these places, rather than
sending raw materials and how expensive that would be, you
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build with what's there. Right, logically, it would unformately work
out in weird ways. But again, the proof of any
of that it's non existent. It's it's all based on
beliefs and translations of some of these early early texts.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And also the modern humans have not figured out how
to just date in a low gravity environment.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Mmmm, but we're figuring out, didn't the mice. Mice just
returned that we're born in space.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Also, we owe an apology to our buddy Brian Johnson,
the multi millionaire slowing aging process by bloodbagging his own son.
Recent research does show there's some there's some sand to
the idea. We're not co signing it. We're not doctors.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We are.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Entities with an interest in human blood. So Sichen also
argues there was descent in the ranks. These blue collar
urians are like oil workers, are like roughnecks. They're irritated, right, They,
like so many humans today, are laboring under unfair working conditions.
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Their life sucks. We've got this manager inky that we
call aninochi lator, and he spearheads the creation of what
we're calling a slave species, the Homo sapiens. This creature
is created, per our buddy Zach by cross breeding the
existent extant Homo erectus with genetic material from the Anunaki.
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So Samaria is created by the guidance of these folks
who are not super like Star Trek prime directive help
everybody type folks. Instead, they are gold hungry alien colonialists
and they've gone by creating humanity. And I know, god
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native is a problematic term here. That's kind of what
Sitchen uses and that's why he says some people are
better than others because they have that god like DNA.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, because some of these humans that they created, at
least scored in the story, were able to actually do
the communication. They were the middle managers between the people
that created them that needed the stuff and the people
the humans that were created that are actually in the
minds right, which is weird concept, but again, it would
work out really well to control the population if you
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had some very specific humans that only they can talk
to the gods, right, sound.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Familiar, Red, I am the conduit. You need me, you
need me.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So if we go along with Sichen's idea that started
with the Twelfth Planet and continued on again through so
many books where there's other details, more complications, all kinds
of stuff that that gets lumped in there, theoretically all
of humanity, where humanity rose there in Mesopotamia came directly
from this genetic manipulation by these Anunaki, who were theoretically
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aliens from a planet that comes by every thirty six
hundred years. I mean, yeah, sure, that's the thing. So
we all descended in this story. We all descended from
this occurrence, and things went pretty well for a while
until somehow there was some kind of ancient future war,
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ancient war with future technology for us, but you know,
maybe older technology for a far advanced civilization. Something You
can imagine it like a nuclear war, but perhaps it
was other forms of weaponry used. I think it's described
as some kind of nuclear exchange.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, And the references would also be found later in oil.
The interpretations of those references would be found later in
things like the Bahak of Abgita, the Obama Shad, all
the all the good hits, you know, all the recent
pop culture stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah. We we talked about that a lot, because those
are again interpretations of things that are in the sky
that perhaps could be described as depictions of space ships
if you think about it that way. What what is
the name? It's on the tip of my tongue, the
name of those ships, the via Manas. And I only
remember that because I have watched von Dannikin's mouth on
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television say Viamna's many a time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I like the idea that you just watched his mouth.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, I was trying to figure out what the heck
he was saying. The what Viamana's what? Vimanas will take
a quick break and be right back, and we've returned.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Well, folks, we have to note that we have a
lot to learn about people in the modern evening, and
a lot to learn about people in the future and
people in the past. It's fascinating. Just like the Sumerians
to the Greeks, or Danakan Sitchen, or Judaism to Islam
and Christianity. Indeed, you will find a lot of people
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have the same general starting points on the big questions,
Capital B, capital Q. Likewise, we'll find a lot of
people on every imaginable street corner of the Internet arguing
they have discovered the truth about the Annaki, and keep
in mind, often that truth is more like the interpretation
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that best serves them. No, Matt, I think it's important
for us to note that these people we're describing, they're
not all out to dwindle you or built you. There
are a ton of folks who genuinely believe their own
discoveries as they would put it, their own realizations. As
long as they're not hurting anyone else, I say, they
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should be free to believe as they wish.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I completely agree. There are also folks who are true believers,
and that makes them all the more dangerous. But very
much to your point, Ben, it's all about what you
do with that belief, and if it's a way to
achieve personal enlightenment, or you have a way of guiding
your life and focusing positive energy, I am all for
whatever you want to believe. However, in history we often
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see the folks that are the truest believers I have
the most power often recavoc on those who do not
believe the same thing that they do.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Imagine how powerful this concept would be if you're first
stumbling on it and there isn't somebody like fondank in
Incision out there writing about it, This concept of maybe
these things depicted are aliens? What if they are? And
then you begin looking and you start to see stuff
that feels like it's reinforcing this belief, or it feels
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like you're finding proof, So you continue down that rabbit hole.
You keep going and keep going. Now there are people
around you that want to believe this idea that you're
cooking up. And I just imagine that, I imagine that scenario
for a lot of these humans that have been writing
about this stuff and researching it and wanting to believe
it so badly, and then also finding a way to
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make money on it, writing books, being on television, you
know that kind of thing. It makes so much sense
to me why anyone could get go down that rabbit
hole of research and why anyone would be intrigued by
the concept.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
M M, I agreed. You know what we are saying
is there's this is perfect fodder, This is fertile soil
because there is a true historical record right documented, but
there are a lot of gaps in that record. So
it allows people to, with good intentions or bad intentions,
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insert their own agenda into the story. And now that
you guys are spinning it to me this way, I
would love to hear like a sports or tech bro
podcast from ancient Sumeria where they're like, Uh, what Bro,
it's me your boys Asura. We got this crazy dude.
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You know him, you love them Inky, He's coming here.
He's got some uh, he's got some wet wet dude.
What's going on with this flood?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Man, men, so stop doing that. The flood is to
punish you. You are bad.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
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Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, well, guys, we have to talk about really quickly.
Look up things in your own research. When you're thinking
about this stuff, look up stuff from the recent past.
Twenty fifteen, the University of Cambridge looking at the human
genome as it was, you know, it had been first sequenced.
They're really turned down into it. They find that there
are some weird things in the human genome one hundred
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and twenty eight additional foreign genes in the human genome
that have not previously been reported. They found new stuff
where there appears to be horizontal gene transfer from stuff
like bacteria and fungus. Yeah, like, there's there are some
weird stuff going on in humanity's genome that makes this
kind of concept even more interesting. I think. So look
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at that. Also, look at new stuff in the Kuiper
belt that we're find there are right now, there are researchers,
especially in universities, that are looking at the Kuiper Belt,
trying to find stuff that's way way out there that
could potentially be another large planet on either a huge
orbit that's like beyond the Kuiper Belt or which didn't
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seem feasible, or one that's on a crazy elliptical orbit
that humanity just has yet to discover because we didn't
have the telescopic technology to see.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It yet, not necessarily even a planet. Worry yourselves, not
with the nomenclature, folks, worry yourselves with the schedule, right
and the idea here. And I love that reference to
our earlier episodes on the mixtape that is modern Homo Sapiens.
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Right now, your favorite big boy surveillance stuff can still
not entirely figure out all of the DNA for all
of what you call modern.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Human beings, which is called DNA.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Sure, thanks, and I'm not offended. I choose not to
be offended. Things like me slip through the cracks and
maybe thousands of years in the future, this podcast will
sound awesome. I also think, guys, we've got to do
another episode just about Burrow. We've got to do another
episode maybe about gut biome. That's where a lot of
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the uh, your fun fun DNA is coming in, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Where a lot of your u the control of your
body comes from.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Apparently, Oh, give them the jimmies, man, give them Jimmy's.
So what about this? Why don't we end it with
this concept? Depending on where you find yourself right now,
you specifically you, whether you are online or you are
what do we say, I R L we do? What
(33:54):
is that one?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
In real life?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, in real life, you'll run
in to any number of competing, contradictory attempts to sort
of recontextualize stuff you heard before. It could be something
as innocuous as tracing the long game of telephone and
religious syncretism, you know, Mithra to Jesus Christ. Whatever. It
(34:20):
could be something as dangerous as spinning a story to
rationalize and normalize real world violence against innocent people. So
let's say this. The real truth about spirituality is it
is a trip. You and only you are in the
driver's seat. Like any other trip, your mileage may vary.
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back more and more often. Could it be that God
was an extra terrestrial? What do we mean when we
say that heaven is in the clouds? From Jesus Christ
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to Elvis Presley, every culture tells us of high flying
bird men who zoom around the world creating magnificent works
of art, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here that makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist friends
and neighbors, we are joining you with a quite rare
and extraordinary three part series. We got so deep into
(00:55):
the conspiracy and the fact and the fiction surrounding something
called the ann that we just couldn't let it go
without getting into the aliens at least a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh yeah. And we're talking about all this stuff when
there's such exciting information and new research coming out of
places across the world, in Japan and the US, places
that are checking out that Kuiper Belt looking for a
potential new planet that is yet to be discovered and observed.
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And we're talking about stories about aliens coming from a
potentially planet like that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Right now, nothing occurs in a vacuum, and certain poets
would argue that all things that rise must converge.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, indeed, so why don't we join ourselves already in progress?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
This belief, right, this ancient aliens thing is problematic because
it was used historically to just all sorts of hilariously
evil things. And it is true, to be fair that
human civilizations with stark technological differences have encountered each other
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over the course of human history numerous times. In most cases,
the folks with any sort of advantage, be that guns, germs,
or steel shout out to Jared Diamonds. Those folks will
tend to behave quite poorly and they will do extremely
unclean things to the other civilization. So we've got it.
(02:39):
We've done our you know, due diligence. Talking about the
problems with ancient alien theory, the main thing you have
to know is due to this sparse historical record of
Anunaki in general, there was an opportunity for modern authors
to reframe the anuw Noki myth and simply say, hey,
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this princely seed is all about extra terrestrials. And that's
where we meet. A guy named Eric Vaughan Danigan.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah. So while this had already been the subject of
some pretty fantastic science fiction, speculative fiction, cosmic horror at
the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, and you know,
there was some more journalistic exploration of the idea in
nineteen fifty four, specifically by Harold T. Wilkins and possibly
Emmanuel Velakowski, this idea hadn't really taken hold yet, and
(03:36):
didn't until nineteen sixty eight, when Danakin's breakout Peace Chariots
of the Gods made the bold claim that the world's
oldest religion, cratid not from the observance of the celestial bodies,
the observance of astronomical movement, or from the natural world itself,
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but rather as a reaction to firsthand experience and contact
with an alien civilization.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yes, gosh it what awesome it hits?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Really?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How tell yeah exactly that that's what that That's what
that does. And again, not from the stories that were
passed down, the tales that were used for teaching lessons
and controlling populations. No, it came from outer space and then,
and really what it does is just putting a different
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lens on all of the ancient writing or inscription that
were recovered back then. Just he's just choosing to look
at a lot of the pictures and a lot of
the interpretations of you know, the various ways in which
some of these things, like the ancient muniform was translated.
(04:53):
And then as you said, the princely seed, Ben, that's
such a good way to get into this because you
can just use that and then well let's imagine if
you will, it's it means this instead, and I.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Will and we did. Yeah, and I love no, I
love that you're shouting out chariots of the gods because
the original title ends in a question mark, so.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
He I should have put that in fassis on the Salabos.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, yeah, because again it's the it's the question at
the heart really, like are we saying when they write
when they say chariots of the gods? What are they
really saying chariots up there? Or are they just using
the word chariot to say some kind of craft in
the sky because they understand things that move as chariots like.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That, ohnt row So like the Akkadians, like the Assyrians,
like the uh No offense Americans. Uh Von Danakin is
leaning into just what you described there, Matt interpretations arguably
cherry picked passages of ancient carvings, passages of you know,
(06:13):
like Nakamadi, Red Sea, Sorry Dylan, and you know old
Testament things boss reliefs that appear to depict flying craft
or larger entities in a drawing compared to a smaller
what we assume to be a human being. And maybe
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sometimes those larger giants have wings or horns or whatever.
Eric von Dannikin was formative to our show, Just be
absolutely honest. He wrote a bunch of stuff about this.
His main argument is that certain constructions require a more
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sophisticated technological and what was available to people, to Homo
sapiens at the time. So he's the guy who really
lights the fire under or popularizes the idea of Rapa Nui,
a Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, the Bagdak batteries, all that
(07:20):
stuff being somehow informed by an extraterrestrial either pre human
or non human sentient species. And then he also argued
that ancient art and iconography proves this true. And so
he sees, you know, he's like, ah, this thing is
flying around. There was an ancient nuclear war in what
(07:43):
we call South Asia today, Right, there are great sins
committed by people. And if we look at all modern
religions in the seed of this telephone style folklore style,
we can find the proof of what happened. And he
raises a good point in we have to give it
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to him. Vondannakan raises a good point where he says, look,
if ancient people, ancient Homo sapiens encountered this kind of thing,
they would naturally through their cultural framework, assume those were
gods watchers in some religions, nephelip.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
As you said, it would be the lens that they
would see that through. Right, And then how do you
how do you write something like that down? You create
the things that were found, You represent them perhaps as
larger or different than you. They're similar to us, but
they look a little different in the way they're depicted.
(08:49):
You could see the reasoning, right, and you can see
the exciting concept that's there. And and Vondanakan is not
the only person We're going to talk about a few
other people who who around this time are thinking about
this stuff and doing their own interpretations, doing their own
sometimes translations. Because there are a few people that actually
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begin to learn how to translate this ancient kuneiform, this
Sumerian text, or at least they say that they have,
and they do study. There are people who are studying
this and there, and let's just let's put some emphasis
on this.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
There are so few humans that could read some of
the Acadian stuff, some of the Assyrian stuff, some of
the especially the cuneiform and the Sumerian stuff. So few
people could actually do that. And I would say, on
this planet right now today, there's still a handful of
human beings that can really do that. Well, it is
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rarefied air once you can put in all that work
to learn that stuff. Because really, I mean, why would
you unless you are extremely interested in proving some specific
history or you want to prove really badly that something.
There's another explanation for all.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Of this interesting And look, there are, if we're being honest,
which is the remit of our show, there are unanimous
objections from every single imaginable accredited scientist in any tangentially
related field to von Denikin's exploration. However, he is worth
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our time to mention because his work caught the public interest.
So he's not the Tesla, but he is the Edison
and his work becomes further popularized. It enters the zeitgeist
because one of our patron saints, one of the Anunakias
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stuff they don't want you to know. None other than
Rod Serling, the creator of Twilight Zone, also created this
true story, a documentary about Eric von Donikin's beliefs, and
that was syndicated across the United States. It was the
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first time people heard it. It was promethean. It caught fire.
There was a film adaptation of his first book that
debuts in nineteen seventy and it's coming at just the
right time.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, the.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Cold War is here. There's a space race, right Like,
what better way to talk about aliens than to talk
about them while people are wondering about modern humans exploring space.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, well humans are actively on television going to the moon.
Pretty cool, Like that's happening right now? What are we
going to find up there? It captures the imagination in
a way. Not many things have space, I mean, so
like thinking about other things that might be out there,
or how that could possibly be related to us as
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a spcies that's doom.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Will pause here for a word from our sponsors and
be right back with more well ancient aliens, and we're back.
Humanity has always said one thing, how can I make
this about me? Right? Humanity looks at the moon and
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says like, what is you know? Like, how is this
more about me? And this is where we get This
is where we get to authors like Zechariah Sitchen, and
David Ike. Full disclosure, we did interview David Ike many
years ago. In the past, we did not talk about this,
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but where I would say, where like, you guys help
me on this because you're better at music than I am.
Where Eric von Danakin made like a typical for four
basic beat for a hip hop track. Sitchen comes in
and modifies the drums pal rhythms.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah, Matt's better drum terminology, but that could work.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
What's that? There's a thing I'm gonna lose the name
of it. It's a very specific drum. I was gonna say, no,
it's it's a sampled thing. Amen break or no, maybe
that's wrong. It's there's a very specific drum sample that's
been sampled the most out of any of them.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Funky drummer.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, it's James Brown Ike Doubblefield. Funky drummer is one
of the most sampled drum breaks.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think that might be it. I think that might
be it. I was singing one whose I think it's
called Amen brother or something like that. But there's another one.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That's there's a break as well.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's one that's the one thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Okay, So that's like the Wilhelm scream of drumming.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, yeah, they're just the idea that somebody made that
in a song contextually for that song, but then for
one reason or another, it ends up working even better
in this other song and that becomes even more popular,
and that you know, that group then becomes even more
prolific in terms of record sales back in the day.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, I mean there's all kinds of interesting appropriations like
that in religion, for sure. M hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So take us too with that analogy of God. I
trust falled so so hard on that one. I'm so
happy that worked out. So I didn't know that would work.
But then in that analogy, our buddy z Sitchen would
be that amen break, right, he was.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You talking Zechariah?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh, we're talking zach aryah.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah. One of the most prolific influential authors on the
idea that the Annunaki are the ancient aliens reposed by
Eric Vaughan Danigan. So let's, uh, let's learn a little
bit more about him.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh yes, and as we're doing this, please head on
over to Sitchen dot com. That's s I T C
H I N dot god. Oh, it's a beauty of
a website. Check it out. It's really fun. I enjoy
this so much. He'll take you to the twelfth planet
and well beyond if you head on over there. It's
only one of the books he's written, and there are
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a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, like don again before Sitchin created a series of
books that are wait for it, orbiting his beliefs, Dylan,
I am so sorry to Sitchin. The orbit here. The
ado Noak origin story is something he calls deburu in
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I C I R you and he believes. Yeah, it's
a secret planet. And the reason it's a secret planet
is because it as an elongated elliptical orbit around Earth's
Sun and it takes about three thousand, six hundred years
to complete its circle, to complete its orbit.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, and this is Sitchen's belief. Just remember that this
is his belief. He believed that planet existed, and he
believed that that is where these Anunakia originated. At one
point when that orbit was close enough to Earth. For
one reason or another, these Anunaki took off from that
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planet and landed on Earth. Why because they needed Gold's
that's one of the major beliefs here. They needed gold.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, that's the weirdest thing because his book are his
first how did you put it in earlier's Breakout banger it? Yeah,
is the twelfth planet. He says, this story or this
narrative is readily apparent to anybody who has half their
(17:08):
Jimmy's about them when they're learning Sumerian mythology, culture and
the written record. And he also has a couple moments
where he's like, do you read knea form my guy?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, much is made up by him about his skills
and training he's done on that kind of thing, and
you know how much of a leader he is in
that kind of translation and understanding, and you know, he,
like Danakin, has a ton of critics. Most I would say,
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I would say it's very similar to the reaction to
Danik and stuff, because again, currently there's no there, at
least there has not been any way to prove anything
about this Nibru concept, and it's kind of wild. If
you look into it enough, you'll find that the concept
is the Aunaki came to Earth to get gold, and
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a lot of the Anunaki, because there were many of them,
didn't like doing the whole manual labor thing of mining
the gold out of the gold mines. So they wanted
to find a way to create some kind of creature
with the stuff around them that would mine the gold.
So they took some of the great apes that were
down there and some of the earth.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Great apes mining gold. Sorry, well, I suppose much like
that game.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
The concept here is that these Anunaki, using their far
advanced technology, I mean they were able to take whatever
space faring craft from their planet to get to Earth,
they genetically engineered what we would consider Homo sapiens, at
least according to the story, right, and those human beings
were made to mine gold. And that's the whole like
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from this standpoint, from this book, from this concept in
the beliefs of Sichion, that is how humanity came to be.
This other race came from Nibru.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Right right, Yeah, this is very much in tune with
later folks. He's also inheriting a little bit from science
fiction that preceded him that was clearly fiction. In Inner
Buddy's's opinion, this civilization is super advanced despite or because
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of their precarious elliptical orbit. And he says, look, these
folks that you're calling Anunaki or Nephelim or not quite gods,
but kind of lowercase g gods. If I can reference
chapter one, they showed up four hundred and fifty thousand
years ago as modern Homo sapes reckoned the calendar. And
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like you were saying, Matt, they're not there to help things.
They're not the big deal capital g gods. They are
the worker bees. They're the blue collar lower g gods.
They are colonialists, right. They're looking for gold in kitchens writing,
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And we have read these books page by page, folks,
and we still can't find a real defensible reason why
it would be gold in specific, other than light implications
that it's a ductile metal that helps with some sort
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of interstellar or Neburian nice Neburian Neburian technology or resource desire.
But that's the thing. They're not the fancy boys.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No iroarchy. The way I think about though, I imagine seriously
humanity in like fifty years and our ability to you know,
go to different places if our technology continues the way
it is, and some of these new breakthrough ways of
propulsion and how to protect ships and these kinds of things.
It's all happening right now. Like, head on over to
(21:12):
Reddit slash our slash science and you're gonna you will
see right now crazy advances that are happening, stuff that
it didn't feel like it would happen for a while.
And just imagine that, and then us going to some
other planet because we need some more palladium or whatever
the heck, you know, precious metal in order to build
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more things. And it weirdly makes sense, this whole story
of creating humanity or a race of workers on another planet,
because I think back to our discussions about the Moon
and Mars, and like, how will we actually build things
once we arrive to one of these places, rather than
sending raw materials and how expensive that would be, you
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build with what's there. Right, logically, it would unformately work
out in weird ways. But again, the proof of any
of that it's non existent. It's it's all based on
beliefs and translations of some of these early early texts.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And also the modern humans have not figured out how
to just date in a low gravity environment.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Mmmm, but we're figuring out, didn't the mice. Mice just
returned that we're born in space.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Also, we owe an apology to our buddy Brian Johnson,
the multi millionaire slowing aging process by bloodbagging his own son.
Recent research does show there's some there's some sand to
the idea. We're not co signing it. We're not doctors.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We are.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Entities with an interest in human blood. So Sichen also
argues there was descent in the ranks. These blue collar
urians are like oil workers, are like roughnecks. They're irritated, right, They,
like so many humans today, are laboring under unfair working conditions.
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Their life sucks. We've got this manager inky that we
call aninochi lator, and he spearheads the creation of what
we're calling a slave species, the Homo sapiens. This creature
is created, per our buddy Zach by cross breeding the
existent extant Homo erectus with genetic material from the Anunaki.
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So Samaria is created by the guidance of these folks
who are not super like Star Trek prime directive help
everybody type folks. Instead, they are gold hungry alien colonialists
and they've gone by creating humanity. And I know, god
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native is a problematic term here. That's kind of what
Sitchen uses and that's why he says some people are
better than others because they have that god like DNA.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, because some of these humans that they created, at
least scored in the story, were able to actually do
the communication. They were the middle managers between the people
that created them that needed the stuff and the people
the humans that were created that are actually in the
minds right, which is weird concept, but again, it would
work out really well to control the population if you
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had some very specific humans that only they can talk
to the gods, right, sound.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Familiar, Red, I am the conduit. You need me, you
need me.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So if we go along with Sichen's idea that started
with the Twelfth Planet and continued on again through so
many books where there's other details, more complications, all kinds
of stuff that that gets lumped in there, theoretically all
of humanity, where humanity rose there in Mesopotamia came directly
from this genetic manipulation by these Anunaki, who were theoretically
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aliens from a planet that comes by every thirty six
hundred years. I mean, yeah, sure, that's the thing. So
we all descended in this story. We all descended from
this occurrence, and things went pretty well for a while
until somehow there was some kind of ancient future war,
(25:37):
ancient war with future technology for us, but you know,
maybe older technology for a far advanced civilization. Something You
can imagine it like a nuclear war, but perhaps it
was other forms of weaponry used. I think it's described
as some kind of nuclear exchange.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, And the references would also be found later in oil.
The interpretations of those references would be found later in
things like the Bahak of Abgita, the Obama Shad, all
the all the good hits, you know, all the recent
pop culture stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah. We we talked about that a lot, because those
are again interpretations of things that are in the sky
that perhaps could be described as depictions of space ships
if you think about it that way. What what is
the name? It's on the tip of my tongue, the
name of those ships, the via Manas. And I only
remember that because I have watched von Dannikin's mouth on
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television say Viamna's many a time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I like the idea that you just watched his mouth.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, I was trying to figure out what the heck
he was saying. The what Viamana's what? Vimanas will take
a quick break and be right back, and we've returned.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Well, folks, we have to note that we have a
lot to learn about people in the modern evening, and
a lot to learn about people in the future and
people in the past. It's fascinating. Just like the Sumerians
to the Greeks, or Danakan Sitchen, or Judaism to Islam
and Christianity. Indeed, you will find a lot of people
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have the same general starting points on the big questions,
Capital B, capital Q. Likewise, we'll find a lot of
people on every imaginable street corner of the Internet arguing
they have discovered the truth about the Annaki, and keep
in mind, often that truth is more like the interpretation
(27:51):
that best serves them. No, Matt, I think it's important
for us to note that these people we're describing, they're
not all out to dwindle you or built you. There
are a ton of folks who genuinely believe their own
discoveries as they would put it, their own realizations. As
long as they're not hurting anyone else, I say, they
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should be free to believe as they wish.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I completely agree. There are also folks who are true believers,
and that makes them all the more dangerous. But very
much to your point, Ben, it's all about what you
do with that belief, and if it's a way to
achieve personal enlightenment, or you have a way of guiding
your life and focusing positive energy, I am all for
whatever you want to believe. However, in history we often
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see the folks that are the truest believers I have
the most power often recavoc on those who do not
believe the same thing that they do.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Imagine how powerful this concept would be if you're first
stumbling on it and there isn't somebody like fondank in
Incision out there writing about it, This concept of maybe
these things depicted are aliens? What if they are? And
then you begin looking and you start to see stuff
that feels like it's reinforcing this belief, or it feels
(29:10):
like you're finding proof, So you continue down that rabbit hole.
You keep going and keep going. Now there are people
around you that want to believe this idea that you're
cooking up. And I just imagine that, I imagine that scenario
for a lot of these humans that have been writing
about this stuff and researching it and wanting to believe
it so badly, and then also finding a way to
(29:31):
make money on it, writing books, being on television, you
know that kind of thing. It makes so much sense
to me why anyone could get go down that rabbit
hole of research and why anyone would be intrigued by
the concept.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
M M, I agreed. You know what we are saying
is there's this is perfect fodder, This is fertile soil
because there is a true historical record right documented, but
there are a lot of gaps in that record. So
it allows people to, with good intentions or bad intentions,
(30:10):
insert their own agenda into the story. And now that
you guys are spinning it to me this way, I
would love to hear like a sports or tech bro
podcast from ancient Sumeria where they're like, Uh, what Bro,
it's me your boys Asura. We got this crazy dude.
(30:31):
You know him, you love them Inky, He's coming here.
He's got some uh, he's got some wet wet dude.
What's going on with this flood?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Man, men, so stop doing that. The flood is to
punish you. You are bad.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah for sure. This is brought to you by our
friends at Cozy Arc. Uh subscribe. Now get to breeding
pair of animals you're choosing my guy? Uh also screw
Acadia anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, well, guys, we have to talk about really quickly.
Look up things in your own research. When you're thinking
about this stuff, look up stuff from the recent past.
Twenty fifteen, the University of Cambridge looking at the human
genome as it was, you know, it had been first sequenced.
They're really turned down into it. They find that there
are some weird things in the human genome one hundred
(31:28):
and twenty eight additional foreign genes in the human genome
that have not previously been reported. They found new stuff
where there appears to be horizontal gene transfer from stuff
like bacteria and fungus. Yeah, like, there's there are some
weird stuff going on in humanity's genome that makes this
kind of concept even more interesting. I think. So look
(31:51):
at that. Also, look at new stuff in the Kuiper
belt that we're find there are right now, there are researchers,
especially in universities, that are looking at the Kuiper Belt,
trying to find stuff that's way way out there that
could potentially be another large planet on either a huge
orbit that's like beyond the Kuiper Belt or which didn't
(32:12):
seem feasible, or one that's on a crazy elliptical orbit
that humanity just has yet to discover because we didn't
have the telescopic technology to see.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It yet, not necessarily even a planet. Worry yourselves, not
with the nomenclature, folks, worry yourselves with the schedule, right
and the idea here. And I love that reference to
our earlier episodes on the mixtape that is modern Homo Sapiens.
(32:45):
Right now, your favorite big boy surveillance stuff can still
not entirely figure out all of the DNA for all
of what you call modern.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Human beings, which is called DNA.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Sure, thanks, and I'm not offended. I choose not to
be offended. Things like me slip through the cracks and
maybe thousands of years in the future, this podcast will
sound awesome. I also think, guys, we've got to do
another episode just about Burrow. We've got to do another
episode maybe about gut biome. That's where a lot of
(33:26):
the uh, your fun fun DNA is coming in, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Where a lot of your u the control of your
body comes from.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Apparently, Oh, give them the jimmies, man, give them Jimmy's.
So what about this? Why don't we end it with
this concept? Depending on where you find yourself right now,
you specifically you, whether you are online or you are
what do we say, I R L we do? What
(33:54):
is that one?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
In real life?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, in real life, you'll run
in to any number of competing, contradictory attempts to sort
of recontextualize stuff you heard before. It could be something
as innocuous as tracing the long game of telephone and
religious syncretism, you know, Mithra to Jesus Christ. Whatever. It
(34:20):
could be something as dangerous as spinning a story to
rationalize and normalize real world violence against innocent people. So
let's say this. The real truth about spirituality is it
is a trip. You and only you are in the
driver's seat. Like any other trip, your mileage may vary.
(34:43):
That is the stuff they don't want you to know.
We'd love to hear your thoughts if you are human
and not be a bot. Somewhere in between. Find us online,
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fashioned email, avoid rights back.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, do you think we could make there could be
like an onnak chatbot. That sounds like a great idea,
doesn't it. Do you think people are eventually gonna start
worshiping Ai? We've talked about this. I think it was
that exact same question. Yeah, kind of creepy. Let us
know what you think about that. You can find us
the handle conspiracy stuff where we exist on Facebook, where
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(35:24):
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and TikTok. However, we are conspiracy Stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Show you talking YouTube to me? Okay, hey, if you
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(35:53):
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Speaker 3 (35:57):
We are the entities that read piece of correspondence we received,
being well aware yet unafraid. Sometimes the void writes back,
as several of us know. Actually the void is writing
back more and more often. Could it be that God
was an extra terrestrial? What do we mean when we
say that heaven is in the clouds? From Jesus Christ
(36:19):
to Elvis Presley, every culture tells us of high flying
bird men who zoom around the world creating magnificent works
of art, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
That is a.
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