October 30, 2025 • 50 mins
After exploring the Bermuda Triangle live on international waters, Ben, Matt and Noel open the floor to their fellow Conspiracy Realists. Tune in to hear the guys tackle everything from real-life cryptid encounters, to government secrets, the alleged secrets of DNA and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
My name is Matt, my name is Nol.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
They call me Ben.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are here. That makes
this the stuff they don't want you to know. We've
got something very special for you, folks. We hope you
enjoy it as much as we do. Instead of our
weekly listener mail program, this week, we're publishing our live
(00:49):
Q and a session that we had immediately after our
live show in the high season International waters. I think
we all really enjoyed the conversation. I think we're surprised
by the depth of depth see jokes, of knowledge and
experience we ran into and we didn't know what would.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Last that long.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Well, frankly, we wouldn't have released it if it wasn't
worth your time, and it really really was. So we
got some absolutely fascinating questions from the audience, a few
that really took us back in the best possible way,
and I think it's some great conversation, some great back
and forth and very much in the spirit of listener mail,
just like you know in real time with the folks
that were there at the show.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was a gloriously good time.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We hope you guys enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
So here we go, and.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
With that in mind, because you're our favorite part of
the show, we wanted to pass the mic to you.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
We don't we're into the breach here. Should we do it?
Should we do it?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Q and A? Oh yeah, we would love to start
a Q and A. Yeah. Do you have any questions
of any sort about this?
Speaker 7 (02:00):
About anything?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Talking about anything?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, okay, So we got one taker.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We've got the legendary Carley coming here with a with
a mic for us.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yes, sorry, we just sprung this on you, Carly.
We're just we wanted to do this earlier. That's our
bed over here.
Speaker 8 (02:19):
You know, taking all the lore out of it, you know,
looking at the Munion and triangle as a whole, you're
gonna see certain trends. But if you look at singular events,
like take the naval bomber wing for example, you know
you've got a single vessel that has multiple source navigation, magnetic, pedostatic,
you know, you've got atmospheric pressure. So now you've got
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five of those that all lose navigation at the same time.
How do you see a confluence of things that could
explain all of that happening at once?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
We didn't quite get this.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
There was a bit about there's a certain phenomenon that
I believe has to do with magnetic north versus true north,
and there's there's a line that runs through this area
that can cause some like I think it's called magnetic
declination or it's like certain tolerances that are built in
to the navigations.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
If you know more, you should say it.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yeah, absolutely, you're bringing up a good point, because this
is something that is absolutely worth you know, chatting further about.
Speaker 8 (03:18):
You know, you've got solar flares that can you know,
mess with magnetic So there's a lot of singular things
that can mess with singular systems, but nothing that's really
explained something that would cover you know, the entire bank
of navigation that you would have and even an older
craft at all. Right, Right, so no one's i mean
looking at Farmers all almanacs from you know, atmospheric things like,
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you don't see anything that really explains any of those.
Have you guys come up with anything that's connected though,
I haven't seen anything that's been.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Val the agonic line, by the way, the line that
passes through the Bermuda triangle, where it's a place on
the Earth where true north and magnetic north the line
and it can cause some of these anomalies.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
There are lots of other.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Methods of navigation that can and get messed with as well.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The only thing I was thinking about in that specific
case when you got multiple systems that go down, but
they're all electronic, right, theoretically they're all Are they all
electronic or are some of them not?
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Pedostatic systems don't necessarily need electronics at all, went off
of that atmospheric pressure. Even the magnetic navigation doesn't either.
It solely based off the magnetic fields. So none of
that really is electrical. I mean none of it was electronic.
Most of the stuff was not electrical.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So like and wouldn't be oil.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Yeah, only the gyroscope was used as a vacuum pump.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
My mind immediately went to a chronal mass ejection, like
some small just happened to hit in the exact wrong
spot where there was enough of that energy that would
fry electronics.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But if it's not electronics, I don't know that that
far back.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I like your point about a confluence of factors because
what we what we found is that there's no silver
bullet explanation for these many mysteries.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Uh, And a lot of things can go wrong.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So it's quite possible without us being there in the moment,
it's quite possible that there could have been whether I
love the coronal mass ejection idea, that that could be
something that people might.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Have missed at that time, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So it's likely that there were multiple factors in some
of those situations at least.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
That's that's my take.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Great question, It is a great question.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Good job, sir, classed up to Joe my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, to see if I else have a question for us? Question? Uh, currently,
throw the micro just just throw.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
It.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I would love if each of you guys could answer
this question.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But if you were given presidential level access to all
government files for twenty four hours, what's the first thing
you're looking at?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
And why?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Wow, let's go with you and put me on the spote.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's a really cool question. Gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'd love to see more information about like certain musical
icons that I'm into, like you know, John Lennon or whatever,
and like specifically how he was being surveilled to what degree,
you know, what were some of the reasons behind, like
keeping track you can tabs on people like that.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
That's just what comes to mind. But that's a really
good one.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
And there's a lot more answers that I could come
up with if I had a second, But then I'm
sure you've got a good.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh oh sure, yeah, I think we're on the same
page about this. Everything from MK Ultra, I want to
see all of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I want to see it now.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
In Kultra being the like experiments with dosing the public,
because we.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Only know a very small amount of that is the public,
and we only know that because literally somebody had a
goof one day and they put the files in the
wrong like cardboard box and it went to the wrong place,
and someone found just a bit like a tiny percent
into what happened during MK Ultra and then went, oh,
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they're gonna get me now, you know. So I would
love I'd love to figure that out. Of course, anything
disclosure related unredacted Project Blue Book will be dope as well.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I want to know, was Bob Blazar actually working
at Area fifty one?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What was that substance? It was he actually there? What
was that thing?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Is there anything kept in that specific facility or underneath it?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
To me, that is the most important information that could exist.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Is Bob Blazar in the room with us.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Now I was gonna summon him or a conjure of no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But but I think for me that going back to
early extraterrestrial claims is still the place where I think
my mind's always gonna go, and I'm going to be
the most interested in that stuff, probably until I leave
the planet or until a president someday says this is it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Ladies and gentlemen of the United States.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
They've really been looking for some distractions lately.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Maybe maybe this will I get it outely.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Have a little bit of this line, a little bit
of that one. You know, I'm paying no attention to
the one. All right, Next question, I.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
Was curious what each of your personal conspiracy theory wild
is conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That you believe?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
M all right, fine, it's Project Bluebeam that's mine. Have
you ever heard of Project Blue Beam. Anybody, you'll love this.
It's the concept that some government somewhere, probably the US,
would one day fake an alien and invasion to unite
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the planet and all the world's governments and resources to
work together rather than against each other in this beautiful
conceptual way, right, or even potentially bring back a historic
religious figure like Jesus or Muhammad or somebody to again reunite.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The world in some way. It would be super cool
if it was happening.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And there is tech that can shoot holograms up into
clouds and make things it looks like three D objects
that are moving.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So was it drone swarm? Drones? Weird?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Give a drone swarm over North Sentinel Island, you know,
and just roll the dice.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But nobody's focusing on drone tech right now.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, one thing, So give you one wild one that
was a question, Give you one real one that should
scare everybody. So one of the wild ones that I'm
personally just fascinated with would be work coming from kind
of out there authors like Rahm Hancock and the idea
that somewhere in genetic code in a way that we
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don't understand there's a possibility of transmitting, you know, not
just the blueprint for what makes your mind in the body,
but perhaps some other kind of knowledge.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Right, this is related, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
A high octane version of things like the study of epigenetics,
and epigenetics shows us that things that happened to you
physically during your time can affect the genetic expression of
your children and your children's children, right, and this has
proven science. But the idea that all right, you guys
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seem cool.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
So this is a drug reference. Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
So one of the interesting things we read when we
were doing episodes on DMT and various lucinogens and psychedelics
was this really out there idea that some of these
substances and the way they affect the human brain can
allow you to talk to something inside your DNA, which
is super trip.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Is that what the machine l of zis the machinels?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
And well, yeah, that's the idea. So I think that's
mind blowing.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
The real the one we can prove that everybody needs
to be frightened of if you're from the United States
is the Invention Secrecy Act from the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
If you invent something and uncle Sam, by hook.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Or by crook deems it a national security threat no
matter what it is, then they can take it from you.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
They can put an NDA upon you.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
You can't even talk to your spouse, your loved ones
about it for the rest of your life. And if
you try to push back against that, well, let's just
say it this way. It's not the kind of thing
they just put you in prison for. They go step Firth. Yeah,
so that's a scary word.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Well, speaking of drugs, the War on drugs, to me,
I think the ultimate conspiracy.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
That is, many aspects of it very provable.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
That this was more or less a method of controlling
certain parts of the population, and there was never actually
an attempt or a goal to curb drug use in.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Some humanitarian way.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
That it is just kind of a way of cracking
down on certain you know, let's the enemies of the state,
for lack.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
Of a better term. I mean that really ultimately is
what it is. Also, the idea of CIA being involved in.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Drug smuggling, you know, that's just this notion that there's
no real moral high ground when it comes to government.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
That's sort of.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Where my brain lands in terms of stuff that I
truly believe, and I would not consider I only any
of us consider the whole point of the show is
we're not conspiracy heorists. That term is a what's called
a thought terminating cliche, this idea that you.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Use that to deflate the validity of something.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
And Ben may have pointed out that we like to
use the term conspiracy realists. And I think we're living
in the midst of some pretty intense conspiracies that are.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Happening before our very eyes.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
So yeah, a lot of this stuff isn't a stretch,
and we talk about those things, and we also talk
about the ones that are a little more outlandish, that
veer more into the territory of thought experiments. But I
think all of them are important to think about and.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
To talk though.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Guys, if you had told us back in was it
met twenty twenty ten?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
If you had told us back in twenty ten, what
twenty twenty five was going to.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Be, like, I don't know if we would have gotten
into this show.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh yeah, all right, next question, do.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
You guys have any personal experiences that would be show worthy?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Wow, is this a legal inquiry?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm trying to think of this.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If there would be like an interaction with somebody I
imagine like I'm in black kind of situation. Oh my god,
I just lost my voyages bracelet. I will fix that
soon because that is my identity on this ship.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
And I am wound this.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Wow right as I was going to talk about that too.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
One time, a friend of mine took me out to
a place called Augusta, Georgia, which is kind of in
near Atlanta, Georgia in the US, and he was pretty
obsessed with looking at what he believed were unidentified aerial phenomena.
So another friend and I went out there and took
some pretty high powered telescopes and spent the entirety of
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the night just aimed up at different places trying to
see and capture the same things that he was sending
us images of that he was out there capturing by
his pond. And I gotta tell you, I couldn't find anything.
And then all of a sudden, something very strange blipped
(14:15):
into the sky that was very bright, and you could
you ever seen you imagine flashlight, as you're turning it
this way or something, you can kind of see the
way the light changes and curves that way.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It looked like a flashlight way up.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
In the sky, but the size of you know, I
don't know, it looked like a planet, the size of
what you'd imagine a planet looks like.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Just goesh.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I only saw it for a second, and I
didn't capture it correctly because I was in a different
sector of the sky.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And it freaks me.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The heck out because I've looked up everything that it
could have possibly been in the sky at that moment,
and none of it checks out for me.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Matt, I think I've mentioned this when we talked about
this on the show. When I was younger, I was
in a band and I was ring across the kind
of Midwest, and we were going through Nebraska, which just
really really flat and lots of corn fields, and I
really truly saw what I can only describe as like
a geometrically unusually shaped thing just.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
Hovering way off in the distance.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
And I had this little mini DV camera in those
days that I carried around, and I got footage of it, and.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I can't find the tape to save my life.
Speaker 11 (15:23):
And I know I sound like a crazy person, but
where I had the tape somewhere and I saw it,
but it was very very very strange and something that
I to this day can't fully explain. So I'm there
with you, and it's that when you feel that there
is something, there's something to that.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
Yeah, we're gonna find that tape.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
I've working with professional organizers condoing my house lately, so
hopefully I will come across this bag of DV tapes
and then dig through it and see what I can brum.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Of course, of course I don't know. We just agreed to.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
So with adding there.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I think it's what's fascinating is so many people statistically
have seen something they can't explain whether that's a UFO.
It just means unidentified flying objects right. Anything therefore that
you can identify is a UFO, right, correct. And we
have talked with personally aviation experts, you know, people who
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make their living as pilots, and they'll tell us, you know,
I know what stuff looks like in the sky, and
I have a ticktack into it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
The tic TAC stuff you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Are these professionals describing this phenomenon. They're like, it shouldn't
move like that, and it shouldn't be able to go
from the sea to the to the air in that
amount of time at that trajectory and stuff like that
that really does make you kind of do a.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Little double tank.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And also a lot of people, especially in that professional
aviation space or the security space, they don't want to
report it or to talk about it because it could
endanger their jobs, right, it could endanger the chances for promotion,
the credibility or lively switching gears.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
To answer that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
To answer the original question, answer, I, you know, life
before podcasting, I was in Central America for some time
and a cryptid encounter. I don't think we talked about
this much on the air, but I was out in
the middle of nowhere. It was my fault because there
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was this one pickup truck I was supposed to meet, right,
but that was my only way back to the city, right,
and I missed the pickup truck.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
So I'm just stuck out.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
In there and I'm hearing these these wild voices I
had never heard before.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
It definitely wasn't a bird. I think I'm not an ornithologist.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Are we talking like chup of copan?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I don't know, because it was.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Here's the thing, I was hearing this, and I was
I was freaking out, and I asked, you know, like
a guy who lived there.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
And I was like, hey, man, do you hear that?
And he's like yeah. It was like.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
He was like, oh, yeah, you know it's like we
we call it. It's something like we call it the
old man in the woods. I was like, name it that. Uh.
And then I was and was asking. I was like
what is it? And he's like, well, you know, like you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Know old men.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Right. I was like, was it a wheezing kind of sound?
It was like, I can't even do it. It's kind
of like a high pitch thing. That also like you
have a lot of range, police, you'll probably doing range. Yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
His parents operacy true story. So so I heard this
and what what goati is? I never thought about this? Right,
Make long story short, make.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
It back to the city.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Always at the time a little place called kate Telsonango
if we're familiar with Guatemala Jala either the street or
casual name, and ask people as you about it and
they're like, oh, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 13 (18:56):
And uh.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Then I asked some more like academic people and I
was like, well, is this the thing?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Is this a real animal? Are you guys like snipe
hunting me, is this hazy or something?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Because I missed the truck And their answer was, it's
cryptid native to the area and everybody in the area.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
The people in the area cool of that area, like
they believe in it and accepted as fact. And you
run into that in so many different places in the world.
We did a Cryptid episode where we learned about cryptids
around the world. One of the common things as long yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
No squawk, squasquawk.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
The squawk is the saddest, the single tier. It looks
like Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I love the squad and we learned about especially in
places have a lot of biodiversity, like Indonesia.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
What was that the bird thing?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I just know Mothman, Dude.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Mothman and his prophecy.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
That guy's got a serious six pack. Dude is ripped.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
He puts the time.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
We also, I mean, if we're gonna get back to
the ocean and how little we know about the ocean
and the deep, deep deep parts of the ocean. My favorite,
like almost real life cryptid opportunity is the Planet Earth
series about the deep sea and like the Vampire Squid
and like these you know, what do they call them?
Speaker 7 (20:17):
This angler fish with like the lanterns they create their own.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Lights like those.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Those are the closest things to aliens that I think exist.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
On this planet.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
They got a real mess up sex, like I bet
they do.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I don't even want to get into it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
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Speaker 3 (20:46):
It, guys. I think we just talked on one question
for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, let's.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Sorry, Yes, I have a question for you.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Is there anything that you don't want us to know
because it's a topic that you don't want to cover?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Right?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Correct, Hey, guys, it's good to see what we met earlier.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's a I had breakfast with guy. Everybody, Sorry, that's
full disclosure.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Okay, gosh, what do we want to say?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I mean, scientologists are pretty litigious, right right, that's uh,
we've certainly talked about it. There are things you got
to be a little careful about, and we typically I
don't know if there's much that we need to steer
clear of it. And just to be clear too, I
heart are our lovely corporate overlords. They don't censor anything
that we do. There's no topic that's on off limits.
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There is absolutely you know, wonderful to have that level
of trust, in that level of partnership. And I say
corporate overlords with love. By the way, I hope that's clear.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
One thing.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I love this Scientology example because you know, we want
no stone left unturned. But the point about being litigious,
there are things where we had to be a little
bit careful.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And are they ligious.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
They'll come for you, they will find you.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, Clearwater, Florida is not that far away, and they
we had a moment. I think we remember, we're doing
the show on something they did called Operation snow White,
which was a huge heist against the IRS.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I'm not the biggest fan of the Irs.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Personally, but I don't think you should try to do
a heist. We'll get in trouble. So we had to
we had to phrase it so carefully. We had to
say the Church of Scientology maintains to this day that
they never did Operations snow White.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
They never approved it.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
They're not trying to heist the government Several people disagree,
including the United States Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, if anyone's ever read the alex or No that
the book that the Alex Givene documentary Going Clear was
based on, the footnotes alone in that book like are massive.
And that's because it'll be all this stuff in the
text about a thing that supposedly happened, and then the
footnotes it says the Church of Scientology disavows that this
ever happens, and so you know, it's it's bonkers.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
You really do have to be careful with those monks, Matt,
you go one.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Might I go back to the stuff that the MythBusters
guys said they couldn't talk about, and I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't want to tell tales out of school.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It has to do with credit card technology and how
credit cards get read and how there's like some dangers
to some of that that maybe we don't fully understand,
as people who just buy or get a credit card
and then use it to purchase things by going boop.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That's all. Don't let into it. Everything's fine, that's just it.
That's the front door of the rabbit hole.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yeah, So first off, I want to light something up
and smoke it with you all, because I feel like
that would be a fabulous time And I'm a film fan,
as I know.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
The three of you guys are too.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
If you had twenty four hours left on earth, you
had one movie to chick in, which one would you
choose and what makes you connect to that to that
film holy.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Craft, other than vibes.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Either than vibes included either than.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Vibes of the movie, not just vibes in general.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
The American cinematic.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Masterfee Jeff Blum of Sydney Laupers. So we're gonna bracket
that one because that's how it answer.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Would it be Police Academy three for you?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Maybe four? I don't know. I'm thinking through it, like, okay,
so you have twenty four hours.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I think for me it would probably be either the
Roberto Benini movie Life is Beautiful, because it makes me
feel a way and it's like funny and also touching
and moving and.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
It's beautiful to look at.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I was so really, really really really like.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie One Battle after Another.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
I feel like it's so.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Prescient for what's going on, especially for a thing that
you've been working on for twenty years. And this happened
to come out at this time, and that movie is
also really funny and exciting and just powerful. So I
don't know that's what's on my mind right now.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Uh, look, full disclosure again, I keep doing that. I
was a film student in Georgia and journalism minor. And
my favorite film that I've only seen once, and I
don't know that I would watch it again unless I
knew I only had twenty four hours on earth is
Tree of Life by Terrence Malick.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And it is because it is.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's a tough watch and it's very meditative and beautiful
and amazing and wonderful.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
But I wouldn't just sit down to go, all right, Saturday,
let's tree life this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's a long movie. It's very art it's very artistic,
it's moving, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
All kinds of things.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, it's just not a like let's hang out and
actually have fun kind of thing. It's like, let's go
in and learn and feel.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So that would be my choice, and not to deflect here,
but I really like this question and I don't want to.
I want to meditate, like chew on it a little bit.
Are you are you getting off the boat tonight. Are
you going to be here a while? Okay, cool, let's
let's hang out. Let me really, I really want to
think about that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That's the next Police Academy four.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
But that's not that's not a film, that's an experience. Yeah,
you know it's gotta be on VHS.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
How many Police Academies are there?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Like six right now?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
But we'll just bring Do you think they're going to
do a Police Academy reboot?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
That's all it's time. The Naked Gun reboot was really good.
That was it was fun, all right.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So I'll find you when I get when I get
my together.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Okay, all right, what's your next question?
Speaker 14 (26:37):
Yes, if you have just a moment, I want to
caveat this. If you've ever flown an aircraft over the ocean,
it's easy to lose the horizon. That's a given fact.
I mean, they just so if you're not instrument trained,
you can.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
Fly it right into the water.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
All right.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
And you're talking about back to the Navy program. This
is part of this is her expression, and then I'll
ask for a character for forgiveness later.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
But if you're.
Speaker 14 (27:02):
Flying information and you hit a fort, it hit a storm,
you said it was.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
About three forty five in the afternoon.
Speaker 14 (27:09):
I don't know if day like saving time was in,
but if they were flying west and it was as
late as four thirty in the afternoon or three forty
in the afternoon, it had been.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Flying into the sun. If you're driving down on the
highway and you.
Speaker 14 (27:22):
Hit into a deluge and you think you're gonna go
seventeen miles an hour, all of a sudden, everybody's going
forty miles an hour, you don't have that opportunity in
an aircraft.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
Yeah, the game pull up. All it takes is for
the first guy to have vertigo.
Speaker 14 (27:35):
If the other four weren't instrument training, it would have
flown right into the ocean.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Because they just stay in formation with that first thing.
Speaker 14 (27:43):
They said, the first one that goes in, they wouldn't
see it. And a caveat this two ways. I have
over two thousand hours in both the military ands of
the end time line. Fifty'all got a flat, right, and
thank you, that's not the caveat.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
That's gets cool.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
That's just cool that it's worse I've seen a UFO.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I think it's better. Let's let's put a pin
in that.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
We'll put a pin in that earlier.
Speaker 10 (28:13):
You'll you'll notice my wife left me before I set.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You whats coming?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Can you tell us anything about it?
Speaker 10 (28:21):
Yeah, just got This was in Orlando and I was
coming back.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
But another this guy had a private private's license as well,
and I had just gotten out of the military.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
So I set the set the scene. We were coming back.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
It was not quite dark yet from playing golf, we
weren't drinking, we hadn't been at the ninth hole or
nineteenth hole, and all of a sudden, this.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
I don't know how to describe it, just a light.
Speaker 14 (28:44):
Swords came over, our heads turned a little bit, and
then without emotion, well it ain't not that much, without
sound and anything else, just disappeared.
Speaker 10 (28:56):
Now again, I was fresh out of the military.
Speaker 14 (28:58):
I went back and called the tower McCoy Air Force
Base which is now Orlandum International, and told.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
Them what I thought.
Speaker 14 (29:04):
I said, look, I'm not a nutcase, but here's what
I saw. Yeah, and he said, well, thank you, and
I gave him left my name in number. Two weeks later,
they called me and told me that three other commercial
aircraft had broke in formation that evening at that same
time frame, and they couldn't explain why because they thought
another vessel was crossing their flight path.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Wow, Holy mackerel.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
So this was an Orlando mco.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
It's got to be in the history book somewhere on
the records you need.
Speaker 14 (29:31):
My theory about the five Navy aircraft I think is
probably pretty close because I've been in an aircraft over
the English Channel and my pilot and controls of the
time got vertigo and I had to wrestle the controls
out of their hands.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
So we're heading into white water, right, isn't that?
Speaker 14 (29:48):
White water is easy to explain if you're flying into
the sun and it's a heavy rainstorm, it's just like
driving heavy rainstorm at night or indeed or in the day.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
And the sun is on the other side of the rain. Totally,
it will blame you. Wow, I think we Okay, Well,
thank you so.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Much, so much, so thank you for ser.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Wow. Any other questions, well else, we got a couple
of folks, so fun.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
All right.
Speaker 15 (30:19):
So I'm from Mississippi, and in southern Mississippi we had
a stand a space center and they test rockets there. Okay,
So when you are talking about the commuter triangle and
weather happens and nobody control it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
You know.
Speaker 15 (30:33):
My thing is that I want to ask you all
what you think about HARP and government weather control.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
If you can talk about it. We know it's possible.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
We know, like cloud seating and the way that's been
used in spectacles for example, like was it in the
Beijing Olympics.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, yeah, and it advances the two thousand and eight
Beijing Olympics, the government of China did participate in cloud seating.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It's an old technology. It was very.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Imperfect because weather so systems are one big into related organism.
So you can see clouds of one region and bring
some rain, but that rain, that moisture comes from somewhere else,
So someone else is going to have a bad day.
Right when you're having the ion a sphere and when
you're in the low the lower parts of the atmosphere.
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This means that weather manipulation, the idea has been kind
of weaponized.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Right to dismiss it.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
It would be an imprecise thing at best.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, it's imprecise at best. It's a perfect word for it.
And then heart man for years in the early days, we.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Were upset hearth heart Climer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, up there
northward bound.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
The high frequency Active Auroral Research program. That's one of
the first things we covered together back on YouTube a
long time ago.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Long time, long time ago. And the thing that really
made us suspicious about it is the US government inarticular
is really bad at trying to reassure you or make
you not look into stuff because you ask about HARP
and they're like the all right, seventy one cursing, We
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asked about HARP, and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're just you know, we're up there in the north
and we're just sort of around with the eye honesty
or just see.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
What happens where people come in there. Yeah, there's like
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
We're just doing experiments, you know what kind of experiments
And they say, ah, look, I'm gonna have to let
you go.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
We'll talk later.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
But I think knowing that cloud seeding is real, knowing
that there are active HARP is closed down there officially,
But knowing that there are active research programs that were
quite well funded in their time to do things that
were quite obtuse to the American taxpayer, is itself a
worrying proposition.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So I think, to speaking for myself, I personally think
there's something to it. Now.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I don't know about you, man, I don't know about
you know, but I think I think that's a little
closer to conspiracy, actual conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well, it's pretty nuts. Did you talk about what it
can theoretically do?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Harp? Oh, we gave them the official government explanation. Let's
talk about theoretically.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
The theory is that this it's a fairly small research station,
can send a signal basically of energy out into the
atmosphere in a way that it comes back down onto
another place on the Earth and it actually affects the ionosphere.
It functions through the ionosphere, right, is that? Okay, Well
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that's the theoretical concept of.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
What this thing can do. And I remember we were
looking at it, and then.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You see things happening in the news, especially when there's
like a a pretty high profile wildfire or a fire
that affects a city or it's fires is usually the
thing that you mostly see it with, or a huge
power outage like a grid an entire grid goes down,
HARP comes up on the internet with comments and people saying, oh,
it's probably harp, that's what it was. But if you
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talk to anybody who actually works at that facility or
has anything to do with that program that is not
at all what the facility does and what it studies.
And most of it happens a lot when it's a
facility that is either a telescope or is meant to,
you know, study dark Oh what is it, gravitational waves
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or something that is kind of outside of our full
scientific understanding, has just lay people walking around. There's this
concept that perhaps there is some kind of sinister use
for whatever that is. Instead, Oh, they're creating portals out
there with the large Hadron collider, right, that this concept,
when the science is so beyond us, it must be
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something that's crazier than what they're actually attempting to do.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
And I think that's often what happens with.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Harp Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
We also know that so much of so much of
scientific progress and technological progress does come from military funding.
Shout out to our pals at DARPA. Yeah, I see
you up there, Get up.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
No, I'm just kidding we.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
DARPA is is an amazing and strange organization and similar
to Heart, DARPA is the subject of so many conspiracy theories.
You know, and the thing that we have to realize
is you will have brilliant, well intentioned scientists and researchers,
and they will be focused on like a purely mathematical
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or purely academic problem. And the second stage of that
is where Uncle Sam comes in or whatever the local
version of Uncle Sam is and says, Okay, we get it.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
This is amazing. We dig this microwave idea. Just for example,
how can we can we make this a weapon?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Really mean edge, you know, the poor scientists is like,
well this is I just thought it'd be you know,
cool if we could talk to whales and they're like,
all right, well what if we could make the whales soldiers?
Like it turns into this weird brainstormy picked me melt
the lasers on the freaking dolphins, you know, which is.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
A real thing. Sharks with lasers attachment.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
There were weaponized dolphins. That is a thing.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
So we see, I mean, so what we see that
is kind of what's like a Vinn diagram of speculation,
but it's it's based on truth. Similar to conspiracy theories
about the Bermuda Triangle, things really did, for one reason
or another disappear.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
They haven't been found and.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
From that, from that seed of truth grows an oak
tree of possibility and speculation.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Pre point time for a break.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Ads, we'll be right back. We're back, well should we,
Carly's I don't see you?
Speaker 16 (37:05):
Carly?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I see you?
Speaker 10 (37:06):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
If are there more questions?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Moon landing, which'll got? How do they get that camera
out there?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Moonlanding?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Well here's one for me.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
How do they get such great imagery with just running
that film camera? Right?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, that's crazy, that's just knowing.
Speaker 16 (37:30):
You know again, I'm a film student, guys, so you know,
if you want to talk about Maison San or anything
like that, the moltee, but just cranking a camera, a
film camera while wearing that outfit, that was always the
most mind blowing thing to me.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
How could you get such beautiful, incredible imagery through that?
Is it just chance?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Because it would have to be it would have to
be pure chance that you're cranking that thing and it
feels good.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And there's also I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Looking at you because I know you know a lot
of stuff about some of this. There were other cameras
on board, I believe right there were more the television
cameras theoretically that are also running film. They were not handcring. Wow,
they're already pre round, so once you hit it, it
just goes yeah that okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
That makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot
of sense. The science takes in bath.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
That it's.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I believe in you man, that's such a good point.
And we can see that there's stuff there, right, I mean,
you could be down here and you can actually.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Shoot lasers up and see that there's stuff on the
Moon that we put their humans put there.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
But it is kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Just because of the geopolitical tensions that were happening at
the time, it was really convenient for the US to
be able to land on the Moon in that moment.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That's a little weird to me.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I got nothing, No, I think you was pretty anti moved.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Well, you know, whether the moon exists or not, it's
a whole other question.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I got my haircut in Atlanta, and like the guy
that was cutting my hair, I got a pitch for you, man,
the moon isn't real.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
And I was like, okay, You're like, okay, I'm gonna
be in this seat for a watch.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
So rough.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
He was a nice dude, but I think he might
be misinformed about that particular one. But I do sometimes
wonder about the quality of it as well, and I
sometimes wonder if I get what you're saying about. I
can take a picture, I can't build a rocket, But
I do sometimes feel like the footage feels a little stage.
But I'm pretty sure we did do it, but that
maybe there's a chance that they needed to make it
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have that wow factor, so they like stage something.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
After the fact.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
It feels like in my mind like I don't know,
I don't know what very I want to tell you
what to believe.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
It does feel like a combination of actual scientific achievement,
actual amazing things that humanity was able to do, but
also it was made to look a certain way because
there was a need.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
A propagandistic need.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
We also there's a theory we ran into from some
colleagues earlier, Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing, But he's
such a fancy auteur that the only way they could
fake it is going to the moon and faking it.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
That some of the stuff, Yeah, I love bit that
Christopher Nolan, you know, needed to actually detonate an a
bomb to make to make copy.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was crazy on their budget.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
What do we think, guys, We've got one more?
Speaker 10 (40:37):
Okay, all right, what's up guys.
Speaker 13 (40:44):
So one question I have at least to get your
opinion on is what do you think of the Graham
Hancock ancient apocalypse conspiracy is not coming out of the
origins of human history?
Speaker 10 (40:58):
And how far back that goes?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh, we just talked about this.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
There's a really cool thing that might interest you called
the Silurian hypothesis. It's a doctor who referenced Britty Fellow Nerds,
and the idea is that because of the span of
time and the relatively brief moment of the fad we
call human civilization, the question is is it possible that
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an incredibly advanced civilization could have risen and it could
arose and fell, and then so much time would have
ground on that humans now would not be able to
tell what happened.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
And so when we were fascinated with that study.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
And we were reading through it, and they're very clear
that it's a thought experiment, but personally they changed my
mind about a lot of stuff. Right, Like, you think
about all the things humans can build now or have
built thousands of years ago, and the footprints on the
moon are probably going to last longer.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
We talked about this too, and we were talking into
some level journalists earlier about how some like ancient Aliens
theories and this kind of stuff, it's sort of dismissive
of indigenous culture where you know, this guy Graham Hancock,
apparently they scrap plans to make a Netflix Ancient Apocalypse
documentary because of outcry from some Native American groups because
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of the way he more or less erases their cultural
footprint by saying that this other thing happened, you know,
that it was somehow, something more than just human ingenuity
that created some of these sites and features and similar
with like the pyramids, and you know, so there is
this sense that it's sort of like a cultural erasure
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certain types of theories that go into this like ancient Apocalypse,
ancient Aliens kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
I think it'd be cool if there was an ancient civilization,
you know, I.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Just that's where I'm at with a lot I think
that's where all three of us are at. With a
lot of these You go through all the research and
look at all the possibilities. At the end, you just
kind of look around and go.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
It would be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Though, well you know what I mean, it feels like
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Look I was, I haven'tny I haven't had anything to
smoke or anything, but man, I've that question makes me
feel as though I'm out of my body almost when
I really start to think about what being alive is like,
feels like what I experience, you know, with my senses
and just to feel myself in one place, in any
one time. And then I imagine that this experience, if
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we're having right now, and if evolution is true, that
means that creatures beings, things that have been able to
feel and sense and think in some way have been
around for millions and millions and millions and millions and.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Millions of years.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And then the life forms that created those that have
been around for billions and billions of years on.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Those time scales, and all of that that.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
Was it.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
TV shows a documentary series called Life After People like eight.
I think when it came out, it tells you Ben.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Just kind of mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
It shows you how quickly nature takes over and destroys
and digests everything and anything. Right, So then if I
think about those time skills, and I think about what
we understand about that science. It feels like easily something
else could have happened, right, and we just haven't dug
in the right places or we don't understand what we're looking.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
At when we find some some of these things like, uh,
is it is it be mean? I still don't but
but something like that, and you just it's it's fascinating
to think about it.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I also see the criticism right of if you
take that too far and then you decide that you know,
the indigenous peoples in this area didn't actually create that
thing when they absolutely did.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, and we still don't know the full official story
of the modern homeless saviors, right, Like I think not
to date me one other than ourselves here, but I
think we were all we all remembered when folks looked
into DNA and they said, holy smokes, there's a thing
we didn't know about.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
One of the early mixtapes of people.
Speaker 7 (45:13):
Yeah, there's gonna be more of that, and so there's
more of that.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
So we don't really know the current guess is that
what we call the modern Homo sapien came onto the
scene as the new kid on the block about two
hundred thousand years ago. However, with every passing decade, that
timeline gets pushed back a bit further, right because, like
Matt was saying, someone lucks out, they win the lottery,
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they dig in the right place where fossilization could occur,
and they say, holy smokes.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Like, guys, we got to print new textbooks. We screwed
that one up. And with that, I think it's so real.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Skepticism is not having like that kind of zealous confirmation
bias and saying I've decided what is or isn't true,
Therefore anything to violates that is malarkey to meism please
language right right right, real skepticism, it does need a
high degree of meaning. I'm smart enough to change my
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mind when I discover a.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
New fact, smart enough to know what I don't know.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yeah, and that's a big part of what we tried
to bring to every conversation that we have.
Speaker 10 (46:26):
Self awareness goes a hell of a long way.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
What was it that movie we were just talking about,
being the Life of Chuck.
Speaker 6 (46:31):
They referenced this this Carl Sagan concept of like the
universal calendar, the idea that if like this whole span
of time and civilization and everything we know was condensed
to a calendar year that humans would basically have come
into existence in the final seconds of the last day.
Speaker 7 (46:49):
Yes, like it's it's a lot.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
And the fact that you know, DNA this discovery that
changed everything and about the way we think about humans
and we think about biology. You know, with such a
relatively recent discovery, there's gonna be more of those where
that came from in theory. And I to quote the
great scientist Emma Stone, she is she had a really
good perspective at can or some film festival where she
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was just saying, like, there's just no possible way that
given all of that space and all of that ink
and all of that you know, negative space and under
the ocean.
Speaker 7 (47:22):
Or whether there's not something that we don't know about.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
And that's like the whole thesis of you brought it
back to the ocean.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
That's also gonna take it to velociraptors and amber and
dinosaurs and DNA. That's why I remember about DNA, that
little character.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Life like clip.
Speaker 13 (47:40):
He was like.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
DNA, you can.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
And the good news is if you are looking for
cryptids and mysterious large creatures, the ocean right beneath us
is the best place to find them on Earth right now.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Even better news.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Is that although we may be at times cryptic for
cryptis ourselves.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
We're pretty easy to find on the boat.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
So if you want to hang out with absolutely after this,
ask some questions, or just see us and say hi
as we're adventuring around, we'd love to kick it.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yeah, for sure, please hang with us.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Please, thank you so much, everybody, Thank you, mention the
throw in the fact, thanks to young thank.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
You so much all their.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Cool And there you have it, fellow conspiracy realist friends,
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Thanks to everybody on the vessel who participated. And you
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
My name is Matt, my name is Nol.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
They call me Ben.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are here. That makes
this the stuff they don't want you to know. We've
got something very special for you, folks. We hope you
enjoy it as much as we do. Instead of our
weekly listener mail program, this week, we're publishing our live
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Q and a session that we had immediately after our
live show in the high season International waters. I think
we all really enjoyed the conversation. I think we're surprised
by the depth of depth see jokes, of knowledge and
experience we ran into and we didn't know what would.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Last that long.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Well, frankly, we wouldn't have released it if it wasn't
worth your time, and it really really was. So we
got some absolutely fascinating questions from the audience, a few
that really took us back in the best possible way,
and I think it's some great conversation, some great back
and forth and very much in the spirit of listener mail,
just like you know in real time with the folks
that were there at the show.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was a gloriously good time.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We hope you guys enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
So here we go, and.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
With that in mind, because you're our favorite part of
the show, we wanted to pass the mic to you.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
We don't we're into the breach here. Should we do it?
Should we do it?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Q and A? Oh yeah, we would love to start
a Q and A. Yeah. Do you have any questions
of any sort about this?
Speaker 7 (02:00):
About anything?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Talking about anything?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, okay, So we got one taker.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We've got the legendary Carley coming here with a with
a mic for us.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yes, sorry, we just sprung this on you, Carly.
We're just we wanted to do this earlier. That's our
bed over here.
Speaker 8 (02:19):
You know, taking all the lore out of it, you know,
looking at the Munion and triangle as a whole, you're
gonna see certain trends. But if you look at singular events,
like take the naval bomber wing for example, you know
you've got a single vessel that has multiple source navigation, magnetic, pedostatic,
you know, you've got atmospheric pressure. So now you've got
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five of those that all lose navigation at the same time.
How do you see a confluence of things that could
explain all of that happening at once?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
We didn't quite get this.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
There was a bit about there's a certain phenomenon that
I believe has to do with magnetic north versus true north,
and there's there's a line that runs through this area
that can cause some like I think it's called magnetic
declination or it's like certain tolerances that are built in
to the navigations.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
If you know more, you should say it.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yeah, absolutely, you're bringing up a good point, because this
is something that is absolutely worth you know, chatting further about.
Speaker 8 (03:18):
You know, you've got solar flares that can you know,
mess with magnetic So there's a lot of singular things
that can mess with singular systems, but nothing that's really
explained something that would cover you know, the entire bank
of navigation that you would have and even an older
craft at all. Right, Right, so no one's i mean
looking at Farmers all almanacs from you know, atmospheric things like,
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you don't see anything that really explains any of those.
Have you guys come up with anything that's connected though,
I haven't seen anything that's been.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Val the agonic line, by the way, the line that
passes through the Bermuda triangle, where it's a place on
the Earth where true north and magnetic north the line
and it can cause some of these anomalies.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
There are lots of other.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Methods of navigation that can and get messed with as well.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The only thing I was thinking about in that specific
case when you got multiple systems that go down, but
they're all electronic, right, theoretically they're all Are they all
electronic or are some of them not?
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Pedostatic systems don't necessarily need electronics at all, went off
of that atmospheric pressure. Even the magnetic navigation doesn't either.
It solely based off the magnetic fields. So none of
that really is electrical. I mean none of it was electronic.
Most of the stuff was not electrical.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So like and wouldn't be oil.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Yeah, only the gyroscope was used as a vacuum pump.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
My mind immediately went to a chronal mass ejection, like
some small just happened to hit in the exact wrong
spot where there was enough of that energy that would
fry electronics.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But if it's not electronics, I don't know that that
far back.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I like your point about a confluence of factors because
what we what we found is that there's no silver
bullet explanation for these many mysteries.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Uh, And a lot of things can go wrong.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So it's quite possible without us being there in the moment,
it's quite possible that there could have been whether I
love the coronal mass ejection idea, that that could be
something that people might.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Have missed at that time, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So it's likely that there were multiple factors in some
of those situations at least.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
That's that's my take.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Great question, It is a great question.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Good job, sir, classed up to Joe my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, to see if I else have a question for us? Question? Uh, currently,
throw the micro just just throw.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
It.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I would love if each of you guys could answer
this question.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But if you were given presidential level access to all
government files for twenty four hours, what's the first thing
you're looking at?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
And why?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Wow, let's go with you and put me on the spote.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's a really cool question. Gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'd love to see more information about like certain musical
icons that I'm into, like you know, John Lennon or whatever,
and like specifically how he was being surveilled to what degree,
you know, what were some of the reasons behind, like
keeping track you can tabs on people like that.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
That's just what comes to mind. But that's a really
good one.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
And there's a lot more answers that I could come
up with if I had a second, But then I'm
sure you've got a good.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh oh sure, yeah, I think we're on the same
page about this. Everything from MK Ultra, I want to
see all of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
I want to see it now.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
In Kultra being the like experiments with dosing the public,
because we.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Only know a very small amount of that is the public,
and we only know that because literally somebody had a
goof one day and they put the files in the
wrong like cardboard box and it went to the wrong place,
and someone found just a bit like a tiny percent
into what happened during MK Ultra and then went, oh,
(07:00):
they're gonna get me now, you know. So I would
love I'd love to figure that out. Of course, anything
disclosure related unredacted Project Blue Book will be dope as well.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I want to know, was Bob Blazar actually working
at Area fifty one?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What was that substance? It was he actually there? What
was that thing?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Is there anything kept in that specific facility or underneath it?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
To me, that is the most important information that could exist.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Is Bob Blazar in the room with us.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Now I was gonna summon him or a conjure of no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But but I think for me that going back to
early extraterrestrial claims is still the place where I think
my mind's always gonna go, and I'm going to be
the most interested in that stuff, probably until I leave
the planet or until a president someday says this is it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Ladies and gentlemen of the United States.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
They've really been looking for some distractions lately.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Maybe maybe this will I get it outely.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Have a little bit of this line, a little bit
of that one. You know, I'm paying no attention to
the one. All right, Next question, I.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
Was curious what each of your personal conspiracy theory wild
is conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That you believe?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
M all right, fine, it's Project Bluebeam that's mine. Have
you ever heard of Project Blue Beam. Anybody, you'll love this.
It's the concept that some government somewhere, probably the US,
would one day fake an alien and invasion to unite
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the planet and all the world's governments and resources to
work together rather than against each other in this beautiful
conceptual way, right, or even potentially bring back a historic
religious figure like Jesus or Muhammad or somebody to again reunite.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The world in some way. It would be super cool
if it was happening.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And there is tech that can shoot holograms up into
clouds and make things it looks like three D objects
that are moving.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So was it drone swarm? Drones? Weird?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Give a drone swarm over North Sentinel Island, you know,
and just roll the dice.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But nobody's focusing on drone tech right now.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, one thing, So give you one wild one that
was a question, Give you one real one that should
scare everybody. So one of the wild ones that I'm
personally just fascinated with would be work coming from kind
of out there authors like Rahm Hancock and the idea
that somewhere in genetic code in a way that we
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don't understand there's a possibility of transmitting, you know, not
just the blueprint for what makes your mind in the body,
but perhaps some other kind of knowledge.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Right, this is related, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
A high octane version of things like the study of epigenetics,
and epigenetics shows us that things that happened to you
physically during your time can affect the genetic expression of
your children and your children's children, right, and this has
proven science. But the idea that all right, you guys
(10:19):
seem cool.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
So this is a drug reference. Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
So one of the interesting things we read when we
were doing episodes on DMT and various lucinogens and psychedelics
was this really out there idea that some of these
substances and the way they affect the human brain can
allow you to talk to something inside your DNA, which
is super trip.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Is that what the machine l of zis the machinels?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
And well, yeah, that's the idea. So I think that's
mind blowing.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
The real the one we can prove that everybody needs
to be frightened of if you're from the United States
is the Invention Secrecy Act from the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
If you invent something and uncle Sam, by hook.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Or by crook deems it a national security threat no
matter what it is, then they can take it from you.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
They can put an NDA upon you.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
You can't even talk to your spouse, your loved ones
about it for the rest of your life. And if
you try to push back against that, well, let's just
say it this way. It's not the kind of thing
they just put you in prison for. They go step Firth. Yeah,
so that's a scary word.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Well, speaking of drugs, the War on drugs, to me,
I think the ultimate conspiracy.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
That is, many aspects of it very provable.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
That this was more or less a method of controlling
certain parts of the population, and there was never actually
an attempt or a goal to curb drug use in.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Some humanitarian way.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
That it is just kind of a way of cracking
down on certain you know, let's the enemies of the state,
for lack.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
Of a better term. I mean that really ultimately is
what it is. Also, the idea of CIA being involved in.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Drug smuggling, you know, that's just this notion that there's
no real moral high ground when it comes to government.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
That's sort of.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Where my brain lands in terms of stuff that I
truly believe, and I would not consider I only any
of us consider the whole point of the show is
we're not conspiracy heorists. That term is a what's called
a thought terminating cliche, this idea that you.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Use that to deflate the validity of something.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
And Ben may have pointed out that we like to
use the term conspiracy realists. And I think we're living
in the midst of some pretty intense conspiracies that are.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Happening before our very eyes.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
So yeah, a lot of this stuff isn't a stretch,
and we talk about those things, and we also talk
about the ones that are a little more outlandish, that
veer more into the territory of thought experiments. But I
think all of them are important to think about and.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
To talk though.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Guys, if you had told us back in was it
met twenty twenty ten?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
If you had told us back in twenty ten, what
twenty twenty five was going to.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Be, like, I don't know if we would have gotten
into this show.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh yeah, all right, next question, do.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
You guys have any personal experiences that would be show worthy?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Wow, is this a legal inquiry?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm trying to think of this.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If there would be like an interaction with somebody I
imagine like I'm in black kind of situation. Oh my god,
I just lost my voyages bracelet. I will fix that
soon because that is my identity on this ship.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
And I am wound this.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Wow right as I was going to talk about that too.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
One time, a friend of mine took me out to
a place called Augusta, Georgia, which is kind of in
near Atlanta, Georgia in the US, and he was pretty
obsessed with looking at what he believed were unidentified aerial phenomena.
So another friend and I went out there and took
some pretty high powered telescopes and spent the entirety of
(13:54):
the night just aimed up at different places trying to
see and capture the same things that he was sending
us images of that he was out there capturing by
his pond. And I gotta tell you, I couldn't find anything.
And then all of a sudden, something very strange blipped
(14:15):
into the sky that was very bright, and you could
you ever seen you imagine flashlight, as you're turning it
this way or something, you can kind of see the
way the light changes and curves that way.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It looked like a flashlight way up.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
In the sky, but the size of you know, I
don't know, it looked like a planet, the size of
what you'd imagine a planet looks like.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Just goesh.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I only saw it for a second, and I
didn't capture it correctly because I was in a different
sector of the sky.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And it freaks me.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The heck out because I've looked up everything that it
could have possibly been in the sky at that moment,
and none of it checks out for me.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Matt, I think I've mentioned this when we talked about
this on the show. When I was younger, I was
in a band and I was ring across the kind
of Midwest, and we were going through Nebraska, which just
really really flat and lots of corn fields, and I
really truly saw what I can only describe as like
a geometrically unusually shaped thing just.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
Hovering way off in the distance.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
And I had this little mini DV camera in those
days that I carried around, and I got footage of it, and.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I can't find the tape to save my life.
Speaker 11 (15:23):
And I know I sound like a crazy person, but
where I had the tape somewhere and I saw it,
but it was very very very strange and something that
I to this day can't fully explain. So I'm there
with you, and it's that when you feel that there
is something, there's something to that.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
Yeah, we're gonna find that tape.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
I've working with professional organizers condoing my house lately, so
hopefully I will come across this bag of DV tapes
and then dig through it and see what I can brum.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Of course, of course I don't know. We just agreed to.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
So with adding there.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I think it's what's fascinating is so many people statistically
have seen something they can't explain whether that's a UFO.
It just means unidentified flying objects right. Anything therefore that
you can identify is a UFO, right, correct. And we
have talked with personally aviation experts, you know, people who
(16:22):
make their living as pilots, and they'll tell us, you know,
I know what stuff looks like in the sky, and
I have a ticktack into it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
The tic TAC stuff you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Are these professionals describing this phenomenon. They're like, it shouldn't
move like that, and it shouldn't be able to go
from the sea to the to the air in that
amount of time at that trajectory and stuff like that
that really does make you kind of do a.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Little double tank.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And also a lot of people, especially in that professional
aviation space or the security space, they don't want to
report it or to talk about it because it could
endanger their jobs, right, it could endanger the chances for promotion,
the credibility or lively switching gears.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
To answer that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
To answer the original question, answer, I, you know, life
before podcasting, I was in Central America for some time
and a cryptid encounter. I don't think we talked about
this much on the air, but I was out in
the middle of nowhere. It was my fault because there
(17:22):
was this one pickup truck I was supposed to meet, right,
but that was my only way back to the city, right,
and I missed the pickup truck.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
So I'm just stuck out.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
In there and I'm hearing these these wild voices I
had never heard before.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
It definitely wasn't a bird. I think I'm not an ornithologist.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Are we talking like chup of copan?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I don't know, because it was.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Here's the thing, I was hearing this, and I was
I was freaking out, and I asked, you know, like
a guy who lived there.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
And I was like, hey, man, do you hear that?
And he's like yeah. It was like.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
He was like, oh, yeah, you know it's like we
we call it. It's something like we call it the
old man in the woods. I was like, name it that. Uh.
And then I was and was asking. I was like
what is it? And he's like, well, you know, like you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Know old men.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Right. I was like, was it a wheezing kind of sound?
It was like, I can't even do it. It's kind
of like a high pitch thing. That also like you
have a lot of range, police, you'll probably doing range. Yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
His parents operacy true story. So so I heard this
and what what goati is? I never thought about this? Right,
Make long story short, make.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
It back to the city.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Always at the time a little place called kate Telsonango
if we're familiar with Guatemala Jala either the street or
casual name, and ask people as you about it and
they're like, oh, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 13 (18:56):
And uh.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Then I asked some more like academic people and I
was like, well, is this the thing?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Is this a real animal? Are you guys like snipe
hunting me, is this hazy or something?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Because I missed the truck And their answer was, it's
cryptid native to the area and everybody in the area.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
The people in the area cool of that area, like
they believe in it and accepted as fact. And you
run into that in so many different places in the world.
We did a Cryptid episode where we learned about cryptids
around the world. One of the common things as long yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
No squawk, squasquawk.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
The squawk is the saddest, the single tier. It looks
like Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I love the squad and we learned about especially in
places have a lot of biodiversity, like Indonesia.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
What was that the bird thing?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I just know Mothman, Dude.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Mothman and his prophecy.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
That guy's got a serious six pack. Dude is ripped.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
He puts the time.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
We also, I mean, if we're gonna get back to
the ocean and how little we know about the ocean
and the deep, deep deep parts of the ocean. My favorite,
like almost real life cryptid opportunity is the Planet Earth
series about the deep sea and like the Vampire Squid
and like these you know, what do they call them?
Speaker 7 (20:17):
This angler fish with like the lanterns they create their own.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Lights like those.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Those are the closest things to aliens that I think exist.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
On this planet.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
They got a real mess up sex, like I bet
they do.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I don't even want to get into it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
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Speaker 3 (20:46):
It, guys. I think we just talked on one question
for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, let's.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Sorry, Yes, I have a question for you.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Is there anything that you don't want us to know
because it's a topic that you don't want to cover?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Right?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Correct, Hey, guys, it's good to see what we met earlier.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's a I had breakfast with guy. Everybody, Sorry, that's
full disclosure.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Okay, gosh, what do we want to say?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I mean, scientologists are pretty litigious, right right, that's uh,
we've certainly talked about it. There are things you got
to be a little careful about, and we typically I
don't know if there's much that we need to steer
clear of it. And just to be clear too, I
heart are our lovely corporate overlords. They don't censor anything
that we do. There's no topic that's on off limits.
(21:41):
There is absolutely you know, wonderful to have that level
of trust, in that level of partnership. And I say
corporate overlords with love. By the way, I hope that's clear.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
One thing.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I love this Scientology example because you know, we want
no stone left unturned. But the point about being litigious,
there are things where we had to be a little
bit careful.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And are they ligious.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
They'll come for you, they will find you.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, Clearwater, Florida is not that far away, and they
we had a moment. I think we remember, we're doing
the show on something they did called Operation snow White,
which was a huge heist against the IRS.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I'm not the biggest fan of the Irs.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Personally, but I don't think you should try to do
a heist. We'll get in trouble. So we had to
we had to phrase it so carefully. We had to
say the Church of Scientology maintains to this day that
they never did Operations snow White.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
They never approved it.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
They're not trying to heist the government Several people disagree,
including the United States Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, if anyone's ever read the alex or No that
the book that the Alex Givene documentary Going Clear was
based on, the footnotes alone in that book like are massive.
And that's because it'll be all this stuff in the
text about a thing that supposedly happened, and then the
footnotes it says the Church of Scientology disavows that this
ever happens, and so you know, it's it's bonkers.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
You really do have to be careful with those monks, Matt,
you go one.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Might I go back to the stuff that the MythBusters
guys said they couldn't talk about, and I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I don't want to tell tales out of school.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It has to do with credit card technology and how
credit cards get read and how there's like some dangers
to some of that that maybe we don't fully understand,
as people who just buy or get a credit card
and then use it to purchase things by going boop.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That's all. Don't let into it. Everything's fine, that's just it.
That's the front door of the rabbit hole.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yeah, So first off, I want to light something up
and smoke it with you all, because I feel like
that would be a fabulous time And I'm a film fan,
as I know.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
The three of you guys are too.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
If you had twenty four hours left on earth, you
had one movie to chick in, which one would you
choose and what makes you connect to that to that
film holy.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Craft, other than vibes.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Either than vibes included either than.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Vibes of the movie, not just vibes in general.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
The American cinematic.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Masterfee Jeff Blum of Sydney Laupers. So we're gonna bracket
that one because that's how it answer.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Would it be Police Academy three for you?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Maybe four? I don't know. I'm thinking through it, like, okay,
so you have twenty four hours.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I think for me it would probably be either the
Roberto Benini movie Life is Beautiful, because it makes me
feel a way and it's like funny and also touching
and moving and.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
It's beautiful to look at.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I was so really, really really really like.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie One Battle after Another.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
I feel like it's so.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Prescient for what's going on, especially for a thing that
you've been working on for twenty years. And this happened
to come out at this time, and that movie is
also really funny and exciting and just powerful. So I
don't know that's what's on my mind right now.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Uh, look, full disclosure again, I keep doing that. I
was a film student in Georgia and journalism minor. And
my favorite film that I've only seen once, and I
don't know that I would watch it again unless I
knew I only had twenty four hours on earth is
Tree of Life by Terrence Malick.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And it is because it is.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's a tough watch and it's very meditative and beautiful
and amazing and wonderful.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
But I wouldn't just sit down to go, all right, Saturday,
let's tree life this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's a long movie. It's very art it's very artistic,
it's moving, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
All kinds of things.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, it's just not a like let's hang out and
actually have fun kind of thing. It's like, let's go
in and learn and feel.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So that would be my choice, and not to deflect here,
but I really like this question and I don't want to.
I want to meditate, like chew on it a little bit.
Are you are you getting off the boat tonight. Are
you going to be here a while? Okay, cool, let's
let's hang out. Let me really, I really want to
think about that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
That's the next Police Academy four.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
But that's not that's not a film, that's an experience. Yeah,
you know it's gotta be on VHS.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
How many Police Academies are there?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Like six right now?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
But we'll just bring Do you think they're going to
do a Police Academy reboot?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
That's all it's time. The Naked Gun reboot was really good.
That was it was fun, all right.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So I'll find you when I get when I get
my together.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Okay, all right, what's your next question?
Speaker 14 (26:37):
Yes, if you have just a moment, I want to
caveat this. If you've ever flown an aircraft over the ocean,
it's easy to lose the horizon. That's a given fact.
I mean, they just so if you're not instrument trained,
you can.
Speaker 10 (26:50):
Fly it right into the water.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
All right.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
And you're talking about back to the Navy program. This
is part of this is her expression, and then I'll
ask for a character for forgiveness later.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
But if you're.
Speaker 14 (27:02):
Flying information and you hit a fort, it hit a storm,
you said it was.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
About three forty five in the afternoon.
Speaker 14 (27:09):
I don't know if day like saving time was in,
but if they were flying west and it was as
late as four thirty in the afternoon or three forty
in the afternoon, it had been.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Flying into the sun. If you're driving down on the
highway and you.
Speaker 14 (27:22):
Hit into a deluge and you think you're gonna go
seventeen miles an hour, all of a sudden, everybody's going
forty miles an hour, you don't have that opportunity in
an aircraft.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
Yeah, the game pull up. All it takes is for
the first guy to have vertigo.
Speaker 14 (27:35):
If the other four weren't instrument training, it would have
flown right into the ocean.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Because they just stay in formation with that first thing.
Speaker 14 (27:43):
They said, the first one that goes in, they wouldn't
see it. And a caveat this two ways. I have
over two thousand hours in both the military ands of
the end time line. Fifty'all got a flat, right, and
thank you, that's not the caveat.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
That's gets cool.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
That's just cool that it's worse I've seen a UFO.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I think it's better. Let's let's put a pin
in that.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
We'll put a pin in that earlier.
Speaker 10 (28:13):
You'll you'll notice my wife left me before I set.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You whats coming?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Can you tell us anything about it?
Speaker 10 (28:21):
Yeah, just got This was in Orlando and I was
coming back.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
But another this guy had a private private's license as well,
and I had just gotten out of the military.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
So I set the set the scene. We were coming back.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
It was not quite dark yet from playing golf, we
weren't drinking, we hadn't been at the ninth hole or
nineteenth hole, and all of a sudden, this.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
I don't know how to describe it, just a light.
Speaker 14 (28:44):
Swords came over, our heads turned a little bit, and
then without emotion, well it ain't not that much, without
sound and anything else, just disappeared.
Speaker 10 (28:56):
Now again, I was fresh out of the military.
Speaker 14 (28:58):
I went back and called the tower McCoy Air Force
Base which is now Orlandum International, and told.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
Them what I thought.
Speaker 14 (29:04):
I said, look, I'm not a nutcase, but here's what
I saw. Yeah, and he said, well, thank you, and
I gave him left my name in number. Two weeks later,
they called me and told me that three other commercial
aircraft had broke in formation that evening at that same
time frame, and they couldn't explain why because they thought
another vessel was crossing their flight path.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Wow, Holy mackerel.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
So this was an Orlando mco.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
It's got to be in the history book somewhere on
the records you need.
Speaker 14 (29:31):
My theory about the five Navy aircraft I think is
probably pretty close because I've been in an aircraft over
the English Channel and my pilot and controls of the
time got vertigo and I had to wrestle the controls
out of their hands.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
So we're heading into white water, right, isn't that?
Speaker 14 (29:48):
White water is easy to explain if you're flying into
the sun and it's a heavy rainstorm, it's just like
driving heavy rainstorm at night or indeed or in the day.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
And the sun is on the other side of the rain. Totally,
it will blame you. Wow, I think we Okay, Well,
thank you so.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Much, so much, so thank you for ser.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Wow. Any other questions, well else, we got a couple
of folks, so fun.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
All right.
Speaker 15 (30:19):
So I'm from Mississippi, and in southern Mississippi we had
a stand a space center and they test rockets there. Okay,
So when you are talking about the commuter triangle and
weather happens and nobody control it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
You know.
Speaker 15 (30:33):
My thing is that I want to ask you all
what you think about HARP and government weather control.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
If you can talk about it. We know it's possible.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
We know, like cloud seating and the way that's been
used in spectacles for example, like was it in the
Beijing Olympics.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, yeah, and it advances the two thousand and eight
Beijing Olympics, the government of China did participate in cloud seating.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It's an old technology. It was very.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Imperfect because weather so systems are one big into related organism.
So you can see clouds of one region and bring
some rain, but that rain, that moisture comes from somewhere else,
So someone else is going to have a bad day.
Right when you're having the ion a sphere and when
you're in the low the lower parts of the atmosphere.
(31:18):
This means that weather manipulation, the idea has been kind
of weaponized.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Right to dismiss it.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
It would be an imprecise thing at best.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, it's imprecise at best. It's a perfect word for it.
And then heart man for years in the early days, we.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Were upset hearth heart Climer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, up there
northward bound.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
The high frequency Active Auroral Research program. That's one of
the first things we covered together back on YouTube a
long time ago.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Long time, long time ago. And the thing that really
made us suspicious about it is the US government inarticular
is really bad at trying to reassure you or make
you not look into stuff because you ask about HARP
and they're like the all right, seventy one cursing, We
(32:12):
asked about HARP, and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're just you know, we're up there in the north
and we're just sort of around with the eye honesty
or just see.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
What happens where people come in there. Yeah, there's like
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
We're just doing experiments, you know what kind of experiments
And they say, ah, look, I'm gonna have to let
you go.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
We'll talk later.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
But I think knowing that cloud seeding is real, knowing
that there are active HARP is closed down there officially,
But knowing that there are active research programs that were
quite well funded in their time to do things that
were quite obtuse to the American taxpayer, is itself a
worrying proposition.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So I think, to speaking for myself, I personally think
there's something to it. Now.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I don't know about you, man, I don't know about
you know, but I think I think that's a little
closer to conspiracy, actual conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well, it's pretty nuts. Did you talk about what it
can theoretically do?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Harp? Oh, we gave them the official government explanation. Let's
talk about theoretically.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
The theory is that this it's a fairly small research station,
can send a signal basically of energy out into the
atmosphere in a way that it comes back down onto
another place on the Earth and it actually affects the ionosphere.
It functions through the ionosphere, right, is that? Okay, Well
(33:36):
that's the theoretical concept of.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
What this thing can do. And I remember we were
looking at it, and then.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You see things happening in the news, especially when there's
like a a pretty high profile wildfire or a fire
that affects a city or it's fires is usually the
thing that you mostly see it with, or a huge
power outage like a grid an entire grid goes down,
HARP comes up on the internet with comments and people saying, oh,
it's probably harp, that's what it was. But if you
(34:04):
talk to anybody who actually works at that facility or
has anything to do with that program that is not
at all what the facility does and what it studies.
And most of it happens a lot when it's a
facility that is either a telescope or is meant to,
you know, study dark Oh what is it, gravitational waves
(34:24):
or something that is kind of outside of our full
scientific understanding, has just lay people walking around. There's this
concept that perhaps there is some kind of sinister use
for whatever that is. Instead, Oh, they're creating portals out
there with the large Hadron collider, right, that this concept,
when the science is so beyond us, it must be
(34:44):
something that's crazier than what they're actually attempting to do.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
And I think that's often what happens with.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Harp Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
We also know that so much of so much of
scientific progress and technological progress does come from military funding.
Shout out to our pals at DARPA. Yeah, I see
you up there, Get up.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
No, I'm just kidding we.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
DARPA is is an amazing and strange organization and similar
to Heart, DARPA is the subject of so many conspiracy theories.
You know, and the thing that we have to realize
is you will have brilliant, well intentioned scientists and researchers,
and they will be focused on like a purely mathematical
(35:32):
or purely academic problem. And the second stage of that
is where Uncle Sam comes in or whatever the local
version of Uncle Sam is and says, Okay, we get it.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
This is amazing. We dig this microwave idea. Just for example,
how can we can we make this a weapon?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Really mean edge, you know, the poor scientists is like,
well this is I just thought it'd be you know,
cool if we could talk to whales and they're like,
all right, well what if we could make the whales soldiers?
Like it turns into this weird brainstormy picked me melt
the lasers on the freaking dolphins, you know, which is.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
A real thing. Sharks with lasers attachment.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
There were weaponized dolphins. That is a thing.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
So we see, I mean, so what we see that
is kind of what's like a Vinn diagram of speculation,
but it's it's based on truth. Similar to conspiracy theories
about the Bermuda Triangle, things really did, for one reason
or another disappear.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
They haven't been found and.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
From that, from that seed of truth grows an oak
tree of possibility and speculation.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Pre point time for a break.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Ads, we'll be right back. We're back, well should we,
Carly's I don't see you?
Speaker 16 (37:05):
Carly?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I see you?
Speaker 10 (37:06):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
If are there more questions?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Moon landing, which'll got? How do they get that camera
out there?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Moonlanding?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Well here's one for me.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
How do they get such great imagery with just running
that film camera? Right?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, that's crazy, that's just knowing.
Speaker 16 (37:30):
You know again, I'm a film student, guys, so you know,
if you want to talk about Maison San or anything
like that, the moltee, but just cranking a camera, a
film camera while wearing that outfit, that was always the
most mind blowing thing to me.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
How could you get such beautiful, incredible imagery through that?
Is it just chance?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Because it would have to be it would have to
be pure chance that you're cranking that thing and it
feels good.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And there's also I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Looking at you because I know you know a lot
of stuff about some of this. There were other cameras
on board, I believe right there were more the television
cameras theoretically that are also running film. They were not handcring. Wow,
they're already pre round, so once you hit it, it
just goes yeah that okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
That makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot
of sense. The science takes in bath.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
That it's.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I believe in you man, that's such a good point.
And we can see that there's stuff there, right, I mean,
you could be down here and you can actually.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Shoot lasers up and see that there's stuff on the
Moon that we put their humans put there.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
But it is kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Just because of the geopolitical tensions that were happening at
the time, it was really convenient for the US to
be able to land on the Moon in that moment.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That's a little weird to me.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I got nothing, No, I think you was pretty anti moved.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Well, you know, whether the moon exists or not, it's
a whole other question.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I got my haircut in Atlanta, and like the guy
that was cutting my hair, I got a pitch for you, man,
the moon isn't real.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
And I was like, okay, You're like, okay, I'm gonna
be in this seat for a watch.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
So rough.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
He was a nice dude, but I think he might
be misinformed about that particular one. But I do sometimes
wonder about the quality of it as well, and I
sometimes wonder if I get what you're saying about. I
can take a picture, I can't build a rocket, But
I do sometimes feel like the footage feels a little stage.
But I'm pretty sure we did do it, but that
maybe there's a chance that they needed to make it
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have that wow factor, so they like stage something.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
After the fact.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
It feels like in my mind like I don't know,
I don't know what very I want to tell you
what to believe.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
It does feel like a combination of actual scientific achievement,
actual amazing things that humanity was able to do, but
also it was made to look a certain way because
there was a need.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
A propagandistic need.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
We also there's a theory we ran into from some
colleagues earlier, Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing, But he's
such a fancy auteur that the only way they could
fake it is going to the moon and faking it.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
That some of the stuff, Yeah, I love bit that
Christopher Nolan, you know, needed to actually detonate an a
bomb to make to make copy.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was crazy on their budget.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
What do we think, guys, We've got one more?
Speaker 10 (40:37):
Okay, all right, what's up guys.
Speaker 13 (40:44):
So one question I have at least to get your
opinion on is what do you think of the Graham
Hancock ancient apocalypse conspiracy is not coming out of the
origins of human history?
Speaker 10 (40:58):
And how far back that goes?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Oh, we just talked about this.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
There's a really cool thing that might interest you called
the Silurian hypothesis. It's a doctor who referenced Britty Fellow Nerds,
and the idea is that because of the span of
time and the relatively brief moment of the fad we
call human civilization, the question is is it possible that
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an incredibly advanced civilization could have risen and it could
arose and fell, and then so much time would have
ground on that humans now would not be able to
tell what happened.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
And so when we were fascinated with that study.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
And we were reading through it, and they're very clear
that it's a thought experiment, but personally they changed my
mind about a lot of stuff. Right, Like, you think
about all the things humans can build now or have
built thousands of years ago, and the footprints on the
moon are probably going to last longer.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
We talked about this too, and we were talking into
some level journalists earlier about how some like ancient Aliens
theories and this kind of stuff, it's sort of dismissive
of indigenous culture where you know, this guy Graham Hancock,
apparently they scrap plans to make a Netflix Ancient Apocalypse
documentary because of outcry from some Native American groups because
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of the way he more or less erases their cultural
footprint by saying that this other thing happened, you know,
that it was somehow, something more than just human ingenuity
that created some of these sites and features and similar
with like the pyramids, and you know, so there is
this sense that it's sort of like a cultural erasure
(42:40):
certain types of theories that go into this like ancient Apocalypse,
ancient Aliens kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
I think it'd be cool if there was an ancient civilization,
you know, I.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Just that's where I'm at with a lot I think
that's where all three of us are at. With a
lot of these You go through all the research and
look at all the possibilities. At the end, you just
kind of look around and go.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
It would be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Though, well you know what I mean, it feels like
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Look I was, I haven'tny I haven't had anything to
smoke or anything, but man, I've that question makes me
feel as though I'm out of my body almost when
I really start to think about what being alive is like,
feels like what I experience, you know, with my senses
and just to feel myself in one place, in any
one time. And then I imagine that this experience, if
(43:31):
we're having right now, and if evolution is true, that
means that creatures beings, things that have been able to
feel and sense and think in some way have been
around for millions and millions and millions and millions and.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Millions of years.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And then the life forms that created those that have
been around for billions and billions of years on.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Those time scales, and all of that that.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
Was it.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
TV shows a documentary series called Life After People like eight.
I think when it came out, it tells you Ben.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Just kind of mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
It shows you how quickly nature takes over and destroys
and digests everything and anything. Right, So then if I
think about those time skills, and I think about what
we understand about that science. It feels like easily something
else could have happened, right, and we just haven't dug
in the right places or we don't understand what we're looking.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
At when we find some some of these things like, uh,
is it is it be mean? I still don't but
but something like that, and you just it's it's fascinating
to think about it.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I also see the criticism right of if you
take that too far and then you decide that you know,
the indigenous peoples in this area didn't actually create that
thing when they absolutely did.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, and we still don't know the full official story
of the modern homeless saviors, right, Like I think not
to date me one other than ourselves here, but I
think we were all we all remembered when folks looked
into DNA and they said, holy smokes, there's a thing
we didn't know about.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
One of the early mixtapes of people.
Speaker 7 (45:13):
Yeah, there's gonna be more of that, and so there's
more of that.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
So we don't really know the current guess is that
what we call the modern Homo sapien came onto the
scene as the new kid on the block about two
hundred thousand years ago. However, with every passing decade, that
timeline gets pushed back a bit further, right because, like
Matt was saying, someone lucks out, they win the lottery,
(45:39):
they dig in the right place where fossilization could occur,
and they say, holy smokes.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Like, guys, we got to print new textbooks. We screwed
that one up. And with that, I think it's so real.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Skepticism is not having like that kind of zealous confirmation
bias and saying I've decided what is or isn't true,
Therefore anything to violates that is malarkey to meism please
language right right right, real skepticism, it does need a
high degree of meaning. I'm smart enough to change my
(46:16):
mind when I discover a.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
New fact, smart enough to know what I don't know.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yeah, and that's a big part of what we tried
to bring to every conversation that we have.
Speaker 10 (46:26):
Self awareness goes a hell of a long way.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
What was it that movie we were just talking about,
being the Life of Chuck.
Speaker 6 (46:31):
They referenced this this Carl Sagan concept of like the
universal calendar, the idea that if like this whole span
of time and civilization and everything we know was condensed
to a calendar year that humans would basically have come
into existence in the final seconds of the last day.
Speaker 7 (46:49):
Yes, like it's it's a lot.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
And the fact that you know, DNA this discovery that
changed everything and about the way we think about humans
and we think about biology. You know, with such a
relatively recent discovery, there's gonna be more of those where
that came from in theory. And I to quote the
great scientist Emma Stone, she is she had a really
good perspective at can or some film festival where she
(47:13):
was just saying, like, there's just no possible way that
given all of that space and all of that ink
and all of that you know, negative space and under
the ocean.
Speaker 7 (47:22):
Or whether there's not something that we don't know about.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
And that's like the whole thesis of you brought it
back to the ocean.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
That's also gonna take it to velociraptors and amber and
dinosaurs and DNA. That's why I remember about DNA, that
little character.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Life like clip.
Speaker 13 (47:40):
He was like.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
DNA, you can.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
And the good news is if you are looking for
cryptids and mysterious large creatures, the ocean right beneath us
is the best place to find them on Earth right now.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Even better news.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Is that although we may be at times cryptic for
cryptis ourselves.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
We're pretty easy to find on the boat.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
So if you want to hang out with absolutely after this,
ask some questions, or just see us and say hi
as we're adventuring around, we'd love to kick it.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yeah, for sure, please hang with us.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Please, thank you so much, everybody, Thank you, mention the
throw in the fact, thanks to young thank.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
You so much all their.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Cool And there you have it, fellow conspiracy realist friends,
ed neighbors. That is our live Q and A session.
Thanks to everybody on the vessel who participated. And you
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Speaker 6 (49:17):
It's right. You can find us at the handle Conspiracy Stuff.
Speaker 7 (49:20):
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Speaker 5 (49:21):
Here's where it gets crazy.
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