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12. Kamala Harris to Publish ‘107 Days,’ a Memoir About the 2024 Campaign
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Do you ever have that nightmare of like you switch
bodies with a professional athlete and so like in the
middle of the game and you're like, fuck, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
What to do. I feel like when that's happened, I
was killing it. Oh in your dreams, pure fantasy. Yeah. Yeah,
it's only when I'm myself that I'm an abject failure
in my dream? Isn't that what the point of dreams?
So I can not be my failure of a self? Yeah,
or just like anxiety fever dreams the other way to
another direction, you could go with your unconscious I'm always

(00:35):
fighting this kid who bullied me on this one hockey team,
and my fucking and my arms are just in sand, dude. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I have.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, I always like get in fights, and then I can't,
like I'm floating an inch off the ground, so I
can't like run away, which is what I would actually
do in a fight.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
And and my like arms are like very like feels
like they're underwater.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I like the fight or flight. My fight is that
my arms are completely just restrained from physics or something.
And your flight. But you're like, I can't get my
feet on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
You're away from this guy, Hello the Internet, and welcome
to season four oh five, Episode five of der Daily.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Say guys, there's a production of Iheartradios, a podcast We
dig Deep to Ovenue a Maerage shade consciousness. It's Friday,
September twelfth, twenty twenty five. September twelfth, man, yep, never
never remember, never remember. The day after September eleventh.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's National Day of Encouragement. It's also a National hug
and high five Day, National just one human family, just
some all lives matter, shit, National Report Medicare Fraud Day, okay,
thanks Republicans, National Video Games Day okay, and National Chocolate
Milkshake Day. Okay. I can get a.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Perfect summation of just our country where they're like here,
you can have video games and chocolate milk, assholes, but
report medicare fraud exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
We're all watching and also hugging high five somebody and
just like let's talk about unity and like keeping it
together unless you're doing medicare fraud because you're probably immigrant
and like, okay with them, how do you have to
do that?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Voice is a voice like part of your process kind
of I'm going through some stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
My co host, mister Miles. Great Miles Great, Hey, the
Lord of Lankorsham. This, I'm done with no gun. You
know what I mean? Oh? I know what I mean. Also,
my dannim is so smelly. I guess I ship my jeans.
I messed up my gees jeans, makes them good? Ask

(02:55):
clean after I ship my jeee messed up my g's jeans.
Justin Connor on the discord.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Huh no, Justin Connor on the discorde getting in there
after winning our episode yesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm sorry Justin.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Justin was the one who told us about the shooting
in between the first act and the second act, which
is definitely his shift. Fuck Anyways, great fucking AKA and
super producer.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Justin got the syllables right and everything.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by a very funny comedian and writer who you've seen
doing stand up in places like your TV and Internet.
His debut album, ran Through is available on streaming platforms
and vinyl, which gives it a nice little warm sound.
His podcast Finding My Audience is available wherever you get

(04:00):
your favorite podcast. Please welcome back to the show, the
hilarious Alan Strickland. Will you.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh my god, so good to be bad guys, Thanks
for having me.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
How y'all wait you I don't know you're their albums
on vinyl?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
So on vinyl? Yeah, check it out. You can find
myself Alan Stricklandwiams dot com. I think it will cost
you a cool twenty five dollars and you get to
be the coolest person. You're building or zip code Yeah,
with a little bit of vinyl. And if you also
don't have a record player, maybe you got a big
cup and you could use it as a big coaster.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, gold coaster, punch bowl coaster, maybe salad bowl, salad
bowl coaster.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
You don't that you don't have to have a record player.
We can get it and we can get clever with
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You can be a frisbee right.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh hey, you know what I will. I will plug
though real fast, just because you guys have them all
all the time. Chris crofton Yeah, I had him on
my last episode of Finding My Audience and I have
a good talk about his album and his documentary and yeah,
so if any listeners, you know, after you listen to this, yeah, fuck.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
It, fuck it, just stop this. Let's go check out.
We can cut this off. Well, where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Alan Alans dot com?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
All right, well, well it's great haveing you on.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Man. Yeah, everybody, everybody, you know what you know what
to do. Go listen to Crafton right now and Allen's podcast.
How was he? It was great? Yeah, as usual.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's it's very difficult to describe Chris Crofton. It's like
we've tried many times.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's his experience.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, how do you Chris crafton experience?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
How do you describe a crisp spring warning? You know?
That's right, Yeah, that's what Chris crafted.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, Chris Crafton is definitely the closest analogy I can
come up with, is a crisp springing for Crofton. I
was just gonna say, there's a free where I heard it.
But just like the anecdote that comedy albums like took
the world by storm and like that, at a certain point,

(06:08):
like in the sixties or seventies, somebody like had the
idea of, like what if we put stand up comedy
on records? And it was like this big fad too,
just like people would have listening parties. People just like
come over and sit around and listen to a stand
up album on their record player. And that's like as
jealous as I've been of the past, you know, just

(06:28):
being like, no, that's all you need as an excuse
to have people hang out is just like, hey, I
got a new record, like comedy CDs in the nineties. Yeah,
like informal hangs like in my friend's basement, you know,
listening to.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like what the hell happened to me?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, yeah, they're all gonna laugh at you. That's usually
a formative experience, but like not nobody was like, hey, guys,
come on this Friday. Yeah, for I just got the
new Richard Pryor.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
They used to party records and they would especially do
it with like like that's how Red Fox got really
really like successful, was exactly. You would put out these
like incredibly and they were like a lot of them
were really really dirty. It was also stuff that like
back in the day you would have actually gotten like
arrested for decency or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, so yeah, I forget what movie. I think it
might be, Oh, brother, where art now? But there's a
scene where like they go to a family's house and
they're just all sitting around listening to a record and
or listening to the radio and just like staring into
the middle distance. It's like crazy for me to think
about that like being a thing that people do, and
yet no less crazy than like what we do now

(07:44):
where we like sit around with each other and look
at our phones.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah exactly, yeah, our own little listening party.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
All right, Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're
going to get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners a
couple of things we're talking about. We are recording this
on Thursday Day, starting around noon. So as of right now,
no assassin has been arrested in the Charlie Kirk killing.
We are going to just take a look broadly at

(08:12):
the difference between how the right has responded to this
versus how they responded to the killing of Melissa Hortman
earlier this year, to what appeared to be political assassinations.
We'll talk about that, We'll talk about how this is
probably going to be one of our last episodes because
the Hollywood Reporter recently had a piece where they talked

(08:35):
to one of the media executives behind what's it called
incemption AI inception point to AI should.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Learn the name of your future master's leading with to
keep your puny podcast Human Life on the airwaves.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Just one quote from the announcement from the CEO. I'm
just going to exert this one sentence, and this is
a full sentence. It might sound like I'm taking it
out of context. We believe that in the near future,
half of the people on the planet will be AI.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
What the fuck? Wait?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, half half.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Half of the people will be AI.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Where are we at right now? It's a lot How.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Many billion people on the planet right now are AI?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah? Well it's around eight point Okay, so we're gonna
have sixteen billion people in eight billion in the Yeah. Yeah,
that's a lot of mouths defeat.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh man, they're so they're so horny for it in
the c suite the c suite has Has the c
suite ever been hornier for anything than they are horny.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
For maybe the dot com? It's like the dot com thing.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think this is the meta the metaverse thing, like
that was a real website.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
But I feel like that's just a bit more. Yeah,
I feel like those were more unevenly distributed, and like
with the dot com boom, it was like these companies
that were like out there, they were like rising up
and like getting a lot of attention. But it wasn't
like the Fortune five hundred. Companies of the early nineties
were all like if you don't have like a maybe

(10:16):
it was I actually don't remember, I was fucking a child.
But like the way that like Apple just like took
a hit, their stock took a hit because they didn't
like incorporate AI enough talking about AI idiot anyways, we'll
talk about that. We'll talk about the new Kamala Harris

(10:37):
book is coming, where I think everyone's like, oh, we're
gonna get some tea, and it sounds like there's like
some good shit in there. I don't know, it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Just shit that it's like nothing surprising. She's like, yeah,
they all fucking worshiped Joe Biden and Jill Biden there
and whatever, and you're like, okay, but you know, it's
interesting today though, because the Atlantic put out like an
excerpt from the book that reporting on. Now we're getting
quotes from like anonymous Biden people who are fucking clapping back.
Oh really, I'll read some of those, yeah, some responses

(11:09):
from them.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
This is, by the way, a genre of book that,
according to the people at audiobooks dot com, is like
the least finished type of book, which is like audiobooks
by presidential candidates. People buy them and they do not
finish them. All of that plenty more. But first, Alan,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something

(11:30):
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay, so, just recently there's been a bunch of pre
sales for Tam and Paula shows coming up. Oh so,
and I got kind of screwed, and I've got screwed before.
These are Ticketmaster, of course. And so my last thing
that I searched was and the first word of it's
very alarming Reddit. I searched Reddit refresh Ticketmaster or wait,

(12:00):
the full thing that I searched. Ah, Because Reddit, for
all of it's many, many, many many many many many
many mini flaws, it actually is like a place where
you can find stuff out every once.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
No human advice too.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, like someone who with someone who is exactly dealing
with or dealt with exactly what you're talking about, and
they get they get like, it gave me the answer.
It told me exactly how to do it, because a
lot of times you like, I'll like wait and it says, oh,
it'll refresh, but then like it doesn't actually put you
in the queue, so even though you were there ten
minutes before, now you're in the back of the line

(12:40):
and blah blah blah. So it's like, I figure out
how to do it, and it did work. What you're
supposed to do is you get in like fifteen minutes
before and just keep refreshing, even if it's before the
sale goes and eventually you'll get a Q code, and
once you have a Q code, then you're good.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
So were you able to get tickets?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yes? I did, Yeah to get I got one other
show in the Forum, and uh, it just so happens
that I'm gonna be in New York City at the
end of October when they're doing shows there, and I
got a ticket to that one as well.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh, okay, okay, I'm.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
A big I'm a big that I guess you want
to talk about personality. I'm a I'm a big see
see bands I like multiple times I didn't get to
see Tom Petty that one show before he died, and
it's like hanted me. Yeah, it's I had like Tom
Petty's Florida, like I really and and like it was

(13:35):
the type of thing where it's like I think I
might have turned down two people that asked me to
go to it, and it's so it's just like that's
really really obviously haunted me. So like I saw Vampire
Weekend eight times last year and and it's really good.
Oh man, so good. I'm gonna see it again, I
think too. But but yeah, anyway, so that that's a

(13:56):
little insight.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I do like Reddit because there's even stuff where, like
I remember when I was trying to buy a refrigerator
like a while back. There there would you get these
things where people are like, let me tell you, I'm
like an appliance repair person and like this one brand
I rarely see warranty complaints on and like that's like
the legit fucking information. I'm looking for someone who repairs it. Go,
but I never have to fix these ones, right Like

(14:20):
there it is thank you, thank you hard working appliance
repair person. Alreadit.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I it is interesting like that Reddit is the like
all the all Reddit is is like a shadow version
of the regular Internet without sponsored bullshit like slipped in,
so like you know, like what when you're searching, it's
just that's what the Internet used to be. Is just

(14:45):
like a place where the posts are not sponsored by
companies trying to just get your money. Yeah, so it's
just like what if the Internet wasn't like completely and
irrevocably broken by capitalism? Is well, I feel like and
that's why you read it as its flaws, but you have.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
To tag read it at the end, like because if
you search best refrigerator straight up, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb, but for years and
years and years I have been driving around without a
phone holder in my car. Uh huh And I just
got I just got one. And we're not talking about
these things enough. It's amazing decades, Oh my god, Like literally,

(15:37):
I want to say the last time I had one
was probably six ish, more more than five years ago,
maybe even significantly more so. It really is the type
of thing where I'm like, wow, I literally have the
fund that the other day driver is like my phone's right.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
There, just right there, it's just down.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh my god. So anyway, I think those little pieces
of plastic are pretty underrated.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Prior to that, you were just driving around with it
in front of your face, with it up in front
of your face.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
An exact same spot where the holder would be.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, and I had a couple of phones. I have
the Android item all. I had like a real Goldberg machine,
et pro dash cam, all of it. Yeah, but now
I just have the one holder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, always a boxing glove and a that's connected to
a wheel somehow, like on a plunger. Yeah, I'm that
like skins for it and kicks something.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Usually I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
And is it a phone holder that connects into the
air conditioning vent?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yes, but it is also one that has enough space
so that it it's like I can still feel the
air from that vent.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, that's it. Sounds like you got a good one out. Yeah,
I gotta search Reddit you search read it to figure
out which one to get.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, that one, I just took that one. I just
took a stab in the red guard because I think
what I think what happened was the phone foul or something.
I was like, let me just get one of these
things right now.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think you were doing the search on a broken
phone from the falling.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, phone holder for a car, and then you just
hit the unfeeling lucky. But that's not even a thing anymore,
don't Yeah, do they even have Oh no, they do.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
They do. Here I'm gonna do right now, still holder
for car and guess what, assholes at Google, I'm feeling
fucking lucky. Oh, it just fucking feeling. It doesn't even
give I didn't realize what it does. It just sends
you to what sends you to the top result. Oh yeah,
that sent me straight to Amazon.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Amazing, amazing.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
They should I feel like they should be like, I'm
feeling really lucky and like you hit that and you
just like get the thing whatever they want to send you.
They're just like, yeah, you just bought that ship.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm going to put Tame and Paula tickets refreshed. I'm
feeling lucky. There you go, just send me straight to
fucking ticketmaster.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
There you go, our good friends at Ticketmaster. What is
something that you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
All right, this is going to be really controversial. And
I know that everything's been really calm and hunky dory recently,
but I'm going to stir the pot the Arc Light.
I'm gonna say that the Arc Light is overrated. I'm
tired of hearing about it. It's over Did you.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Not get our coming back?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Did you get the email where we said that you
couldn't talk about we just stopped just to stop the
recording stuff there. We can't do this now, Like, what
are you trying to get our show taken off the air?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
So funny, it's so funny just because I like, I
love the Arc Light because of the innovation of reserving
your seats, but then once that became like another that
became pretty much the normal. Like the way people talk
about the Arc Light is like their dad went out
for a pack of smokes and never came back. Like
it's just like it's so so too much. And also

(19:11):
it's just like I think it's just it's just one
of those things where absence makes the heart grow fonder,
because it's like when you're really in that that specific
part of Hollywood too, it's just like we're we're yea days.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean, we're where where is an arc Light? Anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh, they're gone, They're gone, They're out of business.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, this is say, Yeah, I feel like, isn't there
there's not even one left somewhere because I know that
the Sherman Oaks one's gone. Obviously, Hollywood's gone.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Now I think the whole company went out of business
during the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
And it's some weird thing too, like.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
An American movie theater chain.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, like why did they like is it? It's like
is it whoever owns the property? Is it like a
least thing or what?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
But uh, yeah, well now you're going to get me
in trouble because now this is where I start talking
about the plandemic.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah. Now, yeah, why how come we don't have the
Cineramlen Dome anymore? Huh? That's right where the real truths
are being transmitted to us.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
It is funny because I totally agree that it's like
we're remembering it here, like we're remembering a version of
it at a time when it was like doing some
innovative things that nobody else was doing. And now all
those things have been like co opted by AMC, and
like that's that does suck. It sucks that we're like
AMC did it. You can get a fuck off, but

(20:31):
it is.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I just don't get what I like. My thing is,
I'm just like, why didn't Why didn't any like really
rich person just step in and like do like kind
of the same way Quentin Tarantino like, yeah it did
with like the vista or whatever. And also it's like
but but but my the and the reason why I
brought up is because just I still hear people talking
about it. I'm still always hearing people talk about it.

(20:54):
So I'm just like, maybe it's maybe it's like true love.
Maybe it's like when we finally all call actively like
let it go, then will come.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, that's right. Okay. I like that.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
I like that theory that like, once you work on yourself.
So this is it's not saying that the arc Light
is not a worthy, you know, subject of our adoration.
It's just that we need to work on ourselves.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, look in the mirror. Yeah, let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
We're back. Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So we're in the aftermath. You know, this is coming
out a day and a half after you know, Charlie
Kirk was murdered. We're recording it less than twenty four
hours after h Donald Trump is already like waged war
on anybody who is critical of right of any in
his ideology.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
So yeah, just we just wanted to compare how this
assassination the whole, Like this is something we talked about
on Yesterdays trending, but like a really like very horrifying,
Like I don't think like the combination of everybody seeing it,
like the number of places that it was being shown

(22:21):
to people, like including the New York Times, the fact
that it's like a person that I guess he's not
like a household name, but he's like well like people
knew who he was, or at least a lot of
people had seen him. And then just like how fucking
gory and awful it was. It was like a really
traumatic thing. And you know, I think it's a potent

(22:42):
material that the Right is working with, and I think
they know that and are like digging in as much
as possible.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Oh completely, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
But it's not just like the Right. It does feel
like the New York Yankees held a moment of silence
for Charlie Kirk, which.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
He was a media guy. Like that's the other thing
he was just like a media guy.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right, yeah, and like one that had some pretty horrific
white supremacist views. So like the fact that like a
mainstream institution like the New York Yankees is holding a
moment of silence when again, like comparing this to Representative
Melissa Hortman, who was a politician in Minnesota who was assassinated.

(23:32):
She and her husband and their dog were assassinated in
their home by a Trump supporter earlier this year, and
the Yankees did not hold a moment of silence for them.
The Yankees statement that they issued on social media couldn't
be bothered to mention the school shooting that happened in Colorado,
like right at the same time. And yeah, it's just

(23:54):
it is a fallacy, logical fallacy that the right in
the United States really likes to play on, which is
just selection bias, and you know, Charley showing and like
focusing on crimes and really visceral things that are going
to support their political point of view, and you know,

(24:16):
they just pick and choose which victims of political violence
they recognize.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
One thing real quick that I just sort of was thinking,
is that step with the Yankees thing. It's like that
came from the owner, like right, like that, like they.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Are a major League Baseball thing. Someone at the Yankees like,
we got to do this.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's a guy that probably like at some function or whatever,
met Charlie Kirk, and I was like, he's a nice guy,
he's a family man. We have to do this. I
just kind of like because it is weird. It's like,
why would a baseball team comment on this in general?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like what I think it indicates a guy And I
was saying this on the trending episode yesterday, is just
how much like the now default sort of perspective people
have is that of a conservative or through conservative.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Media institutionally that is certainly the case. Yeah, that's that's
just where that's the default now. And I think you know,
like even what the Yankees posted it said quote before
tonight's game, we had a moment of silence and more
of Charlie Kirk. Kirk founded the youth activist group Turning
Point USA and become a fixture on college campuses. Charlie Kirk,
a husband and father of two thirty one years old.
You're like leaving out all of the details that as

(25:29):
the white supremacist group. Yeah, and what and exactly like that.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Rhetorically, they're fanning the flames of the of this completely
out of control fucking era we're in, especially with right
right wing extremism and the normalization of like white like
white nationalism. But again, I think that's because that's that's
currently the default of American culture. Culture is to be like, well,
we don't say things like that. We just look past that,

(25:55):
and we're just going to say that this is a
person and that's what it is. And yeah, I think
that's really The thing that was really that struck me
was to see the number of like pieces that were
written that were like leaving out all like just completely
obfuscating like what his legacy is in terms of a
media personality or if you want to, yeah, that's lessily ephimistic, right.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Or left or whatever. I mean, especially after something like
especially incredibly, I mean I saw the video gruesome, like
very real, very real, very traumatic. There is just such
a strong inclination to live in the fantasy world and
to not deal with the reality of what is actually
going on. So it's like this is a like opportunity

(26:41):
for a lot of people to harken back to like
a time that people are talking about free speech and
stuff like that in this and it's like literally what
a month and a half ago, cops are like busting
heads on college campuses. Is because students deign to say

(27:03):
we shouldn't give money to Israel, Like you know, it's
just like the totally totally it's just an opportunity. And
as we're seeing, you know, I'm sure we'll dig into this,
but like I just the thing that really got under
my skin was Nancy Mace just like reacting so and yes,
I understand it's raw, and I'm not denying anyone of
their emotional response to what happened and what they're seeing,

(27:24):
especially if they knew this guy. But they're immediately laying
it at They're literally saying, this is the Democrat's fault. Yeah,
they don't. They don't know who it is. I think
they've I think they've released a picture of the personnel,
but they have no lead, they have no idea who
it is or why they did it. And they're there.
I'm like, Oh, this is what they want. They want

(27:46):
this moment and they want to foment it, and they
want it's probably easier for them if the Americans just
start attacking each other than if they have to do
any crowd control stuff or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, well, I think this is an excuse to do
the crowd control stuff that they want to do, which
will allow them to not have.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, But just to reiterate this comparison that I think
a lot of people are making. A US lawmaker, you know,
Melissa Hortman, a politician, was assassinated three months ago flags
were not flown at half masted across the country. Trump
has ordered that all flags across the country be flown

(28:29):
at half masted until fourteenth. Yeah, and his social media
response to the Hortman assassination back in June didn't even
mention her name, of course, didn't take any responsibility with
you know, the person who committed that murder, being a
Trump supporter, refused to give Tim Walls a phone call

(28:52):
and skipped her funeral and went golfing with Lindsay Graham
in Stedge. So it it is just like you know,
the most it's blatantly politicized. Anything he's saying about like
political violence being out of hand is only being observed
about one type of political violence.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I think I'm also just it's again the amount
of attention being paid to this by people who are
like diametrically opposed on the political spectrum. To Kirk, it's
like very odd to me. I'm like, I'm like, I
don't know, maybe you just give it the same amount
of attention that the Republicans give to a slain Democratic lawmaker.

(29:34):
Right there is this sort of like having to prove
that they're like there's like a moral high ground. But
I mean, like, you know, say whatever you need to say.
But to again, like to see people like write these
pieces in the New York Times were like I had
a lot in common with him, like you did in
what way? And then also be like he was a
free speech advocate, Like can you define free speech advocate?

(29:57):
Like does that mean they fight for everyone's right to
free speech?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Or it was such a big it was such a
big for part of the abundance agenda, right.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right, Like what is going on? But again, I think
that's what's I think that's what's really surreal again is
to see how the culture is completely reset and be like, well,
this is the default way to speak about this. Don't
mention anything that like try and absolve this person of
everything they've said and every like horrible thing they've said
about non cishit white people.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Well, and that's also where we see the like yeah,
journal journals and political pundits and other people with podcasts
are going to take that tack because in this moment,
like podcaster is like the ultimate like thing. It's not
it's not the political thing right now. It's like it's

(30:48):
the fact that this could happen to someone that isn't political,
isn't intellected, isn't a public official, but you know, has
the ears of all these many people, is a huge platform.
It's just it's it's just a it's a very hard
realization of how muddied everything has become and how obviously

(31:12):
there's something that we already knew but we're just seeing
it in real time. Just how the institutions are basically worthless.
I mean literally, like the FBI can't catch the guy
because there's this fuck an idiot that's in charge of
it right now, and like yeah, I mean just that.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Was like live tweeting the thing was like we got someone. Okay,
it wasn't him, we got some It wasn't like what
the fuck.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Man, It's like, why are you playing the crab? Rave Music.
After that we got it and we got him. Actually
we don't, we don't.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I mean, just another like kind of institutional thing, is
that South Park episode was taken down really in the aftermath? Yeah,
well it was taken off of Comedy Central. I think
it's still available on Paramount Plus.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
But what was there one about this?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Wait or Charlie Cartman played a Charlie Kirk type character
with Charlie Kirk hare Oh shit, Yeah, I mean it
was a thing that, like, you know, Charlie Kirk said
he thought was hilarious. Yeah, I usually think this is hilarious.
But the way that people on the right responded to
that was somebody said on X they mocked him on TV,

(32:21):
then they killed him in real life, comedy has consequences.
A turning point, USA staffer posted on telegram.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
The thing is like to get browbeaten like over this
when this it just obviously you have the intentionally hypocritical
people on the right who are like, right, please tell
me about jokes again and what leads to real life
outcomes and what doesn't. But I think that's what just
kind of surreal too, is you just see all of

(32:50):
this like someone who you hear their words and like
this is actually this is terrifying to hear someone express
these kinds of viewpoints to an audience of millions that
is meant to essentially make people like me or who
look like me like just subhuman and free to just
to to slander the good name of innocent people just

(33:13):
because they're transgender or whatever. I don't know. I mean,
I'm I'm always like wrestling with how America just kind
of like rears its ugly head. But to have like
just kind of like to see it almost feel like
the tone of the media be like you have to
grieve this person right now. Yeah, it's a little It's

(33:34):
just it feels like, I'm like, what the fuck, man,
I'm the ship that he was talking about is absolutely
terrifying to me, And I'm now expected to like feel
a completely different way about a person who says words
that are, for lack of a better word, presenting an
existential threat to people like me.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, he had a family.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Right, Yeah, And I get that, And you know, and
that's the thing I one hundred like, especially becoming a
parent myself, I don't wish an untimely death on anyone,
especially like what because I think about too. I think
about the position I'm in and if I left sooner
than I would hope, and thinking of my own children,
that's fucking terrible. But I think you can that can

(34:18):
be true, and you can also report on the fact
that everything this guy stood for was really like antithetical
to like what a decent America would look.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Like, and this is being used to kind of more
deeply ingrain those values into the mainstream of right.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
No, no attent, no attempt to. That's one thing too
that I just always go to. It's like, look at
what the president is saying. The president is not saying
any sense of unity or coming together or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Let's get it.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
It's true, let's get them, Let's make it worse. And
it's just like, all right, well, I guess that's America. Yeah, okay,
two hundred odd years later, three hundred years later, whatever
half the country hates the other half of the country,
all right, I guess I guess the experiment worked.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean, yeah, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
the fourth of July be real interesting. Next year they
look back. Wow, what a time it's been.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Senator Mike Lee issued a tribute to American patriot Charlie
Kirk on social media. This is the same person that,
after the Hortman assassination, claimed the killer was a Marxist
and posted a photo of the killer with the caption
nightmare on Waltz Street.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah it's and then yeah, it
took a while for people to be like, what the
fuck are you posting? Man, He's like, ah, sorry, all right,
all right, I'll take it down. I'll take it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Mike Lely is Utah, right, yeah, Mikeley is also Utah.
It's that's the crazy, the crazy. The fact that it
was in Utah is really dies. Yeah, like one of
the most conservative, homogeneous judge that that is very didn't
have that on my bingo card.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh man, there it is.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You said it, all right. And that was my main
response to this was it was so random. It so random.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
This year is like the most random year. I feel like,
oh my god, this year is so random, so fucking random.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Right now, Oh my god, did you see the ice rates.
The ice rates are crinn and they're like so random, random, random,
you guys.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know there's a podcast talking like that too. Right now.
I think that's most so random right now, it's probably
hosted by all thirteen year olds, and it's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It doesn't so good like that food podcast with this
thirteen year old that's so good. Yeah, dude, Like, I
don't know, what do you think of Pepperoni pizza? Yeah,
all right, I think Pepperoni is a little sus But yeah,
it feels I mean they've set this tenor for a

(36:55):
long time, so it just I think in some ways
it's easy to dismiss is like, oh, that's just like
the right wing, fuck your feelings and sensitivity around the
killing of a democratic politician. But this, you know, it's
they're very specific and like an event like this and
their immediate politicist politicization of it makes it clear that

(37:20):
there is a larger strategy that you know, this is
allowing them to sell this bullshit narrative that the left
is solely responsible for political violence in America as opposed
to like rarely responsible for the political violence in America.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, and it's just ironic too, coming from Republicans being like,
you know, you should you should really respect this person
and things need to be done in the aftermath of this,
When how many times do little children with children shot
to death and people like can you pass a fucking
law or something like is that? And again they're just
plugging their ears and just you know, whistling past the

(37:58):
graveyard like nothing's going on. And I think that's just
again like all of these ironies kind of really come
together to sort of like just present itself as like
one big mind fucking an event like this and be like, oh,
and now they're going to use this to make shit
worse for people. Probably.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I just think about the Oklahoma City bombing and like
the fact that that was like a right wing terrorist
and like right never takes like so many children, like
they blew up like a fucking preschool, and that's not
like when you think about that event, it's not like
and that was when we realized right wing terrorism was

(38:32):
a problem, and like it was just you know, a
detail of that not even I mean, I mean, I
that was ninety four, right, yeah, And I just remember
I was ten years old and not that I was
like an I watched the news because I was you know,
like on TV, and I just would watch TV. But
I remember like all of that was flattened into and
then this guy Timothy McVeigh did it lone wolf there pot, yeah,

(38:56):
boom and that's it. And then it wasn't until I
was fucking college it was like, wait, oh god, this
is part of this massive right wing movement, right, yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back
and talk about why this is probably one of our
last episodes.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
We'll be right back and we're back. I mean, there's
so many reasons this might be one of our last. Gentlemen,
it's been a privilege and an honor podcasting with you

(39:31):
this evening. Yeah, now get out our violins.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Yeah, and just play like shit because I don't know
how to play the violin. That would be amazing if
like one of the people was just like, sorry, i'm
freaking out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Sorry. Also I'm not very good. Do you know this?
The fucking ship is really listing? Oh man, are we
still gonna play?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
My hands are so fucking sweaty right now? How are
you guys playing?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Does theyone have an ox chord?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah? It would be much easier if I can just
play something, some kind some chamber of music. But yeah,
I only say that and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely, because ai,
I mean, it sounds like they're gearing up to take
over the podcasting world because the Hollywood Reporter recently had
a piece where they spoke with the people behind Inception

(40:22):
AI and they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts.
I'll get to the numbers in a second. And they
try to frame this article like in the beginning, like, God,
aren't people aren't like networks tired of paying like humans
to talk or like paying celebrities like these crazy deals.
I do get what's the most appointing? What's the most
annoying part of podcasts? Having? That's the worst fucking part?

(40:50):
Am I right, ladies? This year is so random. But anyway,
the CEO of this AI company is a former exec
from Wondery, another podcast network, and the Jack alluded to
her like Facebook post that she put it out to
like announce this thing. Hey, this is the full part.
I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share the public

(41:11):
debut of Inception Point AI, the company I joined as
co founder and CEO this summer. Yeah, just to what
an opening.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Sorry emerge from still to emerge from stealth and share
this like is such a great way to open any
work of social media.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, I can join as a co founder.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I think it's it's because someone with a fuck ton
of money goes, Hey, we'd love for you to be
the face of this thing, to give this some credibility.
Will be co founder, We'll make CEO. Yeah, because also,
like I guess, I guess I haven't heard that phrase
emerge from Stealth before, but I know goddamn little little
wonky use of that word.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Thrilled to take off my ghost protocol hood and reveal that.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I'm that I've joined an AI podcast company. Goes on
and as Jack said, we believe that in the near future,
half of the people on the planet will be AI.
That's when my eyes rolled into the back of my
head and I go, we're cooked that you if their
people sip in the AI kool aid? This hard, I mean,
fucking yikes. She goes on to say, we're bringing these

(42:18):
people to life, and we're bringing the next generation content
business model, all powered by AI. In the process, we
built what we believe to be the first AI talent
management agency with an extensive roster of fake ass people
we created with algorithms.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
And that's that's been a thing already too.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, Yeah, we've had these voices these voice models being
created and things like that. But now they're really trying
to like brand each one and be like and they
do all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is
essentially to flood the zone with shit podcasts. But because
their overhead is so low, they can make a profit
on a laughably small number of listens. This is from

(42:56):
the High Report quote. The company is able to produce
each episode for one dollar or less, depending on length
and complexity, and attached programmatic advertising to it. This generally
means that if about twenty people listen to that episode,
the company made a profit on that episode without factoring
in overhead inception. Point Air has already made more than
five thousand shows across its network and produces more than

(43:20):
three thousand episodes a week.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Wow, and yeas been up for like a couple of years,
which does again beg the question of joining as a
co founder two years in.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's good negotiating tactic. Really, I'm going to see.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
This being just like like a nonstarter because I do
think that the thing people look for from podcasts is humanity.
It's like a thing that like they they're not just
necessarily looking for like some quick way to get a voice,
facts shoveled into their brain. I think a lot of
the time you could read an article if you wanted that,

(43:57):
or like have an article read to you.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
But I could also.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
See this kind of ruining things because they're going to
be flooding the zone with so much shit.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
That's the part. That's the part right there, that's the
Amazon thing.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah right, there's going to be so many bad podcasts
indistinguishable from our bad podcast but completely you know, flooding everything.
There will be like five different podcasts. The good news is, like,
this is not how people like. People don't find podcasts
by being like, all right, I'm going to go to

(44:31):
uh ai and search for a topic that I think
I want to know about, and then you know, people
find out about podcasts and then become followers.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Some do, apparent according to them, apparently because their whole
thing set up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with
the help of a based on Google and social media trends,
and then the team may launch five different versions of
the show with different titles to see what performs the best.
The podcasts are often titled for simple SEO search terms,
such as Wales Wales, Yeah, it's I was. I went

(45:06):
to the one of our most popular episode is Whales
is Whales?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
They got Whales?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, dude, I went to there. I went to their
website to just look at what their shows are called.
And it's shipped like this diddy verdict, the British monarchy,
like this one's crazy AI and the climate crisis. Are
you fucking serious You're doing it.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
With AI and thus contributing to the climate crisis.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Like what is that one talking about the assassins.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Bourbon Betty Betty, Benny Boop, Chaos, Chuck MANGIONI Forever China,
communism creating, there's creatine? Are these all podcasts? Are these
episodes of the podcast?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
These are series?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Tell me a one, I'll click on it and we
can here, we can listen to one. I mean I
don't want to hear socialism. Oh the socialism or they
take it down. Okay, let's see this is uh, this
is this is here what they got? Oh I'm not
signing up you fucking know, Yeah, you need to pay
for it.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I get you. Let's see, which simply means I never
forget a vote, a quote, or a constitutional clause. This
is no ego, no pack money, just pure relentless recall.
Tonight we're tackling one of the most misunderstood, maligned, and
frankly butchered concepts in American political discourse, socialism. But here's

(46:39):
my question, though you can like and maybe it will
get better to where you really can't, but you can
tell that that is AI.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well they're also they're trying to they're
sort of like trying to be quote unquote ethical where
they have the hosts up top say their AI yeah,
and one of the founders is like, look, dude, I'm
not trying and I have like create like these models
that people are gonna have like deep relationships with because
like this they see it as a completely different lane

(47:08):
than human hosted podcast. But like when you look at it,
you're like, you're doing you're you're talking about subjects that
humans currently make podcasts about. So I don't know how
you You're like, well, no, I'm not meant to replace
that at all. Like it's just we're just doing the
same thing. They are out of insane scale and maybe
people will listen to it, like you know, they're they

(47:30):
have the hosts. The names are really fucking dumb, Like
for the food podcast.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I don't know what you're talking about. I think these
names are totally normal.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Okay, what name the host of the food podcast Jack?
All right?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
The food podcast is named uh oh. I actually love her.
I actually follow her on lots of different Claire Delish
and then of course my favorite source for gardening info
my health mm hmm, Nigel this.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yes, and the fucking like the the AI models are
like it sounds like the same ones you hear on
TikTok basically when people use AI to caption shit.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
But again, I believes the nominative determinism noma yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Oh yeah, Like one of the finance one was like
Penny power or something like that. Quite dumb, goofy shit.
But again, I mean like I don't know, like they
will it replace it? I don't know, but I think,
like to your point, Alan, like, it's bad when you
have someone putting out three thousand episodes a week of
distinguishable bullshit, because that just makes it harder for anyone

(48:35):
who actually wants to podcast to be to have to
like there's now it's just all noise and now yeah,
that's finally good ones.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
That's like a big part of the Amazon's thing It's
like it's not that they just are undercutting and they
sell the product cheaper. It's said they've also like they've
taken away a viable way for people to make money,
like opening a small business to like sell goods is
a ad business idea now because of Amazon. And so that, yeah,

(49:04):
that definitely and and I mean I will say this,
podcasters are truly some of the sickest people in the
in the sphere of the internet or whatever. They went away,
so they're still going They're still gonna like go after it.
But I and it is the type of thing where

(49:25):
you do just think like, well, wait, but what if
there are people that aren't just that discerning and they're like, oh,
I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they
don't believe, they don't care one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Right, they were about to on the Socialism one. I
could hear the hosts leading into so pour yourself a
glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that, and
I was just like, oh, that is like that there's
a certain type of like medium tier podcast that like
I've accidentally listened to where that's like the human element
is like, so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon.

(49:59):
I've got mine right here, right, and we're gonna dig in,
you know, so maybe, yeah, maybe this is gonna hit
hit with the people who like listen to whatever those
shows are.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
We gotta hit, we gotta hit. I mean, it's fun.
The co founder of it, who I imagine is the
actual founder of it or the person who started he
got into this because in during the pandemic, he just
started like reading like weather reports and shit or no,
he was reading daily CDC reports and then like and
then a bunch of people started reloading it. Yeah, just

(50:31):
because he was just just reading off a cdcreport and
he's like, oh, okay now, and then he did like
weather roots did this yeah, and he's like, whoa weather report?
And then he was like, there's a quote from me.
He's like, you know, talking about how people who are
really like if you have crazy allergies, you look at
like the pollen Report and stuff. He said, quote, we
might make a pollen podcast and maybe only fifty people
listen to, but I'm already at unit profitability on that,

(50:54):
so then maybe I can make five hundred pollen report podcasts.
Like these people don't. This is what happened never made
a thing in their life.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Why have we never once on this on the many
many hours of the show used the phrase.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Unit profit.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Then a cool and soulful term that that founder. And
you know he is the actual founder because his name
is Pod Founderman. So oh, the Cincinnati Founderman's the.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Cincinnati founder, formly formerly of Louisville, Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
All right, Uh so that sucks, but we there is
some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala
Harris has announced her memoir.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
It's coming.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
It's uh, I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced
it a long time ago. It's coming. It's called one
hundred and seven Days. So it's like about the one
hundred and seven days that she ran for president.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Do you guys remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
We all realized like Biden was bad and then he
we finally like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving
the race. And then she had one hundred and seven
days run for president and like started with a spark
and had like a couple of good ideas and then
those were immediately like like replaced by terrible shit by

(52:22):
the Democratic Party and had a chance their advisors. Yeah,
she like had ideas about like greed flation and calling
the Democratic or the Republican party weird, and they're.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Shut the Why don't you shut the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah? I wonder here, kiss uh kiss Dick Cheney's daughter
right now, kiss her on stage. That's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
So yeah, she's she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores,
but on a live speaking to our major venues. Some
tickets going for more than four hundred dollars, not from
like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
What a fucking griff man. That's amazing. Just like man,
that was a that was a shitty presidential campaign. Huh
you want to hear me talk about it for four
hundred bucks? Yeah? Yeah, I do, I do, I do?
I do. The excerpts are pretty telling, I'd say.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Presumably like people are looking for some t spillage and
like she she just really published an excerpt in the
Atlantic that defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there
was no cover up concerning his mental decline.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Okay, that's that's where you lost me.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Coma come on now, yeah, I mean you saw some
ship also would kind of implicate her some Yeah right, yeah,
in a.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Way, there wasn't really a cover up because literally the
entire country it was like, oh, that's all sides of
every like there were like a few people that tried
to deny it, but like.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, we just chose question, right right. She also said,
and this is the refrain from the Biden side his debate,
clusterfuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips.
And I think and then add in from Hunter Biden,
a little bit of ambient sprinkled in, so he was

(54:21):
it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he
was incapacitated by being a little bit tired.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
He was taking a trip down memory Lane's.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Trips to take that that thing from Hunter Biden, He's like,
I was on ambient And then like they looked at
the schedules, like bro he was he was traveled like
traveling like a week solidly before that. But again, like
you're saying, like that's not good if just if traveling
makes you all tired like that and you want to
be cockered out from a trip like a week later,

(54:59):
like that's that's not a good sign that's like me,
I'm tuckered out from a trip a week later, but
like I don't want to be present.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I would be so bad at being president. I'd be
so fucking sleepy.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
What would you do if.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
My comes up to you and says head er, gut
jack and I cry my superpower crying the way out
of things well into my.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Would be interesting that, like the American president with a
completely different strategy from past American leaders openly sobbing pathetically
as a way to get.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Just like stop, like they just stop like invading them,
Like what the hell, all.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Right, Jesus, stop fucking crying. Man, my god, you're gonna
get snot on my suit.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Promise taft taft, big crier.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah yeah, but yeah there are other things too where
she was like where she is sort of like, look,
there are a lot of times that right wing media
was attacking me and they just didn't say shit, The
White House didn't have my back at fucking all, and
they're like absolutely accurate.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Like the energy coming out of the Biden camp during
her run for president was like I don't know, ha haha.
Not so easy to have a candidate who doesn't suck shit. Huh,
Like you know what I mean, Like they were just
like praying she would. You got a sense that at
least a large part of them, maybe there were two
wolves inside of them, and one was rooting for her,

(56:32):
but another was definitely hoping to see her fail and
be vindicated for thinking that they had a better shot
than her.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah. Yeah, there's another thing that she said to quote,
it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like
a mantra, as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes
were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should
have should have been left to an individual's ego and
individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah, okay,
I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in

(57:00):
here that isn't that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah,
of course they hung you out to dry like that.
I mean, I saw that this part, which I think
we knew already worse. I often learned that the president's
staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up
around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was
that I had a chaotic office and unusually high staff
turnover during my first year as vice president. I do

(57:23):
remember that coming at a pretty critical point.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, in the and like that wasn't coming Like they
wouldn't have posted that if that was coming from like
jd Vance, you know what I mean, Like that was
coming from someone inside administration.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fucked.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Up a lot of the two. It's like the Biden
cognitive whatever cover up this about how his team was
mean to her. All of it just reads is like
the Democratic Party has no idea what the fuck it's doing.
And like if if if this is what like and
I don't know, I I to me, she feels done,

(58:03):
Like I feel like I feel like, guys, like a populace,
we're done with her. She also, I think, feels done
like I don't know if she would run again, but
if she, if she does, you know maybe, but like
I'm just like, if this is what we're still talking about,
it's like we're fuckedating.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah the obvious, like why did we lose? Like, guys,
is it really that much of a mystery to you?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
I think that's the only reason this story is of
value is just to further drive nails into the coffin
of the Democratic Party. It's just like, guys, look how
bad it was behind the scenes, Like we all thought
that they had a chance, because we were hoping they
had a chance. Behind the scenes, they were blowing it.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You know, it's a capitalist clown show, and they don't know,
they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the
status quo was really its whole undoing. And now it's
now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden
administration people that are like giving quotes after in the
aftermath of this excerpt, I'm like, now I believe everything

(59:10):
she says. Like one person said, quote Vice President Harris
was simply not good at the job. She had basically
zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams,
and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo
ops that expressed how out of depth she. Wow, holy shit, dude.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
That's what they're saying now. The day after this, yeah
came out, President Biden was not there were mean. Actually
you're fucking stupid. Yeah, you're actually fucking dumb what we're
saying at all. Yeah, it's it's just being mean.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Nobody likes you, but No one's going to tell you
that to your face, but nobody actually likes you. They
going to say, quote, President Biden was not the reason
she struggled in officer tanked her twenty nineteen presidential campaign
or lost the twenty twenty four campaign for that matter.
The independent variable there is the Vice president, not Biden
or his aides.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Damn, you're like, that's like the best I've seen them
at being like critical and clap the backbone. They can't.
They couldn't do that against Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
They couldn't. Yeah, it's just but there's other quotes too
that back what she says. Another aide or staffer who
spoke in this one article, I think, let me just
think before was it in the New Republic said that quote.
We all know that the Biden folks treated her and
her team like shit. We never thought she would actually
say anything. Staffers across a range of ages and positions

(01:00:32):
that I'm talking to are proud of her. Yeah, so
there's clearly, like I mean again, it just shows a
very divided administration. And I think that was really probably
became clear as Biden just sat on his hands after
October seventh, too, right, So yeah, we will see where
if this, if this harms her career because you have

(01:00:53):
other people being like, well, she just nuked her career. Really, yeah,
I mean I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I mean like I feel like the type of people
who say that, who are like play it safe politically
always have have proven that they have some of the
worst instincts in modern politics.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I mean, like think about like Anthony Wiener, you know
what I mean, who went to prison, like he's even
trying to get back in. Yeah, you know, it takes
a lot to get it through to these people that
it's like, hey, maybe you cooked. Yeah I don't think. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
If only they had like some blueprint of a path
forward that had a lot of public support, like just
like Kandar mayor old candidate who was dominant and extremely
popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try and
fuck over.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Well, it's like the thing where it's like it's like
you say, like the like the Democrats are like like
big pepsi people, and they're like, no, it's pepsi for evy,
like everyone likes coked. No, no, it's pepsi. It's like
I look at the fucking numbers man. Everyone nobody's drinking
PEP numbers it tainted and like they can't even fucking
admit it. They're just like fuck fuck, like none of

(01:02:01):
them are backing zor like like what the fuck is
going on that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
I mean again, it's just like I I've just never
felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole.
I'm just like, I don't know what you want from me.
I want nothing from you guys. I guess like this
is just crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, seems bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Well, Alan Strick Williams, such a pleasure having you on
the Daily like Geist as always. Where can people find you?
Follow you all that good stuff?

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Find me on Instagram, Alan Strick and Williams. I'm totally
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and you know what, also, just just keep going, Hey,
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Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Just keep going, just one one foot in front of you,
say the most random stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I'm not chopped am I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I feel like this is the first time that we've
had you on that we haven't commented on how great
your hair is. So I do real quick. Some of
the best hair videos of you write a convertible.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I actually do have a video of myself in a
convertible on Adult Swim. You can watch the last open
mic at the end of the World.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
It was during the pandemic. They did a comedy open
mic for Adult Swim. Megan Kister did it and it
was you did it from your car because it's the pandemic.
So I rented a convertible to do it. Hell yeah,
I think I wore I think I wore the drive
jacket too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
You took a year off the life of the sound
person on that special to assent. Yeah awesome. Is there
a work of media that you've been enjoying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Oh yeah, I saw this tweet. You know, this was yesterday,
so I know it's weird with the time end of
the episode, but this says twas the night before. This
is September tenth, twas the night before. This is from
a Jason Musti and it's just a picture of a
plate of cookies and a picture of George W. Bush

(01:04:17):
the night before.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yes, miles, where can people find you? Is there a
working media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Oh, man, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find
me on four to twenty talking about ninety day fiance
with Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Is there a thing, a
work of media that I enjoyed? Not really, I think
I was kind of avoiding the media, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
But I did work of media you've enjoyed avoiding?

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yes? All social media?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Social media? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes I will. I
will avoid social media just in one thing. Bosh Ferlinger
at jafra doty sky dots, social post it. I guess
the main thing I'm learning this week is that lots
of elite media people knew Charlie Kirk personally and didn't
know any Minnesota state legislators.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Seems to be the case. You can find me on
Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob
the number one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I liked this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I think I've shared this before, but this is kurb
Von and get on buying an envelope. This is Rosalind
Marghlize responded with this quote to a post from zech
Zech which said order your groceries saves an extra one
to two hours a week. Compounded, that's five fifty to
one hundred hours a year, a whole week work of

(01:05:43):
worth of work you gain. I promise that that time
is more important than the ten dollars delivery fee that
was from Zech. And then Rosalind Marghlez tweeted this quote
from kurb Von to get on buying an envelope. Oh,
she says, well, you're not a poor man, you know,
why don't you go online and buy a hundred envelopes
and put them in the closet. And so I pretend

(01:06:04):
not to hear her and go out to get an envelope,
because I'm going to have a hell of a good time.
In the process of buying one envelope, I meet a
lot of people and see some great looking babies, and
a fire engine goes by and I give them the
thumbs up, and I'll ask a woman what kind of
dog that is? And I don't know. The moral of
the story is we're here on earth to fart around,

(01:06:26):
and of course the computers will do us out of that.
And what the computer people don't realize, or they don't
care is we're dancing animals. You know, we love to
move around, and it's like we're not supposed to dance anymore,
So preach Kurt Vona get I guess pretty good. You
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We're at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram. You can go
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and there at the bottom of the description you will
find the footnotes, which is where we link off to
the information that we talked about in today's episode. We
also link off to a song that we think you
might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think
that people might enjoy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Yeah, oddly enough. I was just watching the latest Team
and Paula video for the track Loser that's gonna be
on the album Deadbeat. And what's the guy Joe Kearney,
the guy from Strangers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in it.
It's it's it's nice. It's like it's like so East LA.
It's like that whole setting is like such east side

(01:07:29):
Los Angeles, just on this one little corner market. But
I'm also a big Kevin Parker fan. Uh, and I'm
really looking forward to this album. So you know, we'll
keep teasing these songs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Out in drips and drabs, but this is a loser
by Tam and PAULA Yeah, shout out to music videos.
By the way, Paul Thomas Anderson was like talking to
about his new movie which he shot in like some
old school form of like film that hadn't been used
a long time. I think like panorama vision or something
panavision panavision, and he was like, yeah, I like made

(01:08:02):
a music video a couple of years ago and like
used it and it was like fun as hell. So
you know, like people, people are doing cool stuff in
music video still, it's just like nobody has watched them
in years. Anyways, We will link off to that in
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