January 8, 2026 • 30 mins
In this edition of the show, Jack and Miles discuss the summary public execution of American citizen Renee Nicole Good and how long we, the American public, are gonna let this cook?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trending
for January eighth, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'll get it. I'll get it. Eventually you get we'll
get twenty twenty five. It could be twenty yeah, whatever,
fucking whatever. Man. Yeah, welcome to Trending man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
What a day, What a day? What a day. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm Jack O'Brien. That over there is my co host,
mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Could you do with a little more energy, please, a little
more pizzazz, set.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
A little zip on this one.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, what a time. I
mean like obviously this is all going to just be
about the the murder of Renannicle good.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, as we it's funny yesterdays.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
As we were putting together to the doc, the headline was
like ice involved shooting in Minneapolis. And then by the
time I got to look at the news once we
stopped recording, it was just the video everything was out
and you're immediately just thrown right back into Jesus, like, yeah,
the thing that you all we've seen happen on accident
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in La Remember we saw that one time where the
fucking ice guy like shot his own hand, right because
you Because we have a bunch of fucking losers with
guns out here, pretending to be trembo.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Just giving guns, given badges and told to do whatever
the fun and told that the government in there but
in there, so I don't know exactly what they're being told,
but it does seem to be just like gun the messaging.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I see the messaging, which is essentially do look, we'll
back we'll We'll back you one hundred percent. The comments
that will come out of this administration will absolute lies
to shield you. But yeah, another person killed by ice.
You've probably seen the video if you haven't, or maybe
you need to see it fully to understand the depths
we're continuing to plunge down into. But it wasn't even
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like the video itself. It was like everything around it
that was just so fucked up, Like to her wife
who was inconsolable.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Video of her wife on the scene.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
To the glove box that had stuffed animals in there
because they had just dropped off their six year old
at school, not to mention a child who has already
lost their father in twenty twenty three, now orphaned. I
think just no, I think that most people know who've
seen it and even just read it, that there Renana
Cole Good was in no way trying to run over
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an ice goom. Like these assholes were not stuck in
the snow, contrary to what Christy Noman was saying. They
pulled up on Goods car without issue and able to
drive off after the shooting.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So the FED version is that they were stuck.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I saw Trump's So Trump's statement was that she willfully
and viciously ran over the ice officer, not tried to.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Initial and he went to the hospital, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Viciously ran over the ice officer who seems to have
shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip,
it's hard to believe he is alive but is now
recovering in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He attached him where the guy walks off after he
pulls up his mask when he realized.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Don't know what clip he's referring to, but every fucking.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Video as fucking dementia.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Dude, he cannot fucking acknowledge the reality of any situation.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure we.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Probably read the same articles where like reporters were confronting him.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They're like, Good is this what you're talking about, because
here it seems like she drives around him, trying to
get away from him, as he's pulling his gun out,
and as somebody is another ICE agent with a mask
on is yanking at her door violently and saying.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Get the fuck out of the car.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, she's trying to drive away from them, her wheel
has turned all the way to the right to try
and get away. Yeah, and he shoots her as she
goes by, as she goes by three times.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So I don't have you seen that image where like
his aid pulls out a laptop to like counter this
and be like, okay, well look at this clip. And
then one of the reporters like, well, well, we told
him that this angle did not appear to show an
ICE officer had been run over. Trump said, well, I
the way I look at it, and just kind of
trailed off like he was even waffling when they like
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she said.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, she didn't try to run him over. She ran
him over. And then she he said again, this is
this person isn't.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Even a reliable narrator for when the last time he
took a shit was right, So to have him try
and see the new one, you see it, which is
again too obscure and just complete anyway, So this isn't
the first time ICE has shot and killed a person,
the first time they've shot at people for filming them.
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This apparently like the ninth person has been shot since September. Yeah,
and this is not going to stop because white supremacy
is an all consuming ideology and has been a cornerstone
of American culture from the beginning. The victim being white
doesn't change that. If anything, it's a stark example of
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how white supremacy will consume its own in pursuit of
a reality that will never come to fruition. Unfortunately, it
will just leave a trail of bodies. And these goons
are in our streets because of this fantasy, right, Like,
these people were there because of this fantasy of a
white America and continued exploitation that this country's addicted to.
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And good people know that America is at its best
when we embrace each other and learn and share and
we're like, yes, bro, we're in this together. So these
good people come to defend their neighbors, like Renanicle Good
did just to take a video of the activity of
ICE goons, and in that moment standing for good, you
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become an enemy combatant in the eyes of white supremacy
and doesn't matter what your race is, and another life lost.
I mean, state sanctioned violence is nothing new, and the
lesson here is not new. It's just hard to see
the same tragedy play out over and over again. I
know black and brown people have definitely been talking about
this and.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Like this this is a white woman. Is this going
to change it?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Because we've they've been it didn't matter when we were
getting killed by police.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Will this do something?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it's I think I don't know, But what I
do know is that the outrage that is being felt
across the country is very, very acute. Yeah, and unfortunately
this is part of this is part of the plan
though too is every Like we've been saying from the
beginning of these ice raids all that he needs a
Reichstog fire.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, we've talked a lot about it, like designed incompetence
at the high levels where he has like fools in,
you know, positions of power and you know by having
them there, he can get them to do whatever he
wants and they're going to always be loyal to him.
But I think there's also the designed incompetence of putting untrained,
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violent people on the street with guns and just being like, gonuts,
if you see a brown person, kidnap them and if
anybody gets in your way, you know, you do whatever,
you do, whatever you want. And by doing that, he's
going to create they're going to create more outrage. Because
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I think you're right that, despite what a few like
sort of algorithmically inflated white supremacists on Twitter are saying,
I think most people look at the video and are like, what.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The fuck are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, there was a guy in the local news who
was an eyewitness who was like and like, politically I'm
pretty right leaning. I mean, the guy I think was
probably trying didn't want to say I'm a Trump supporter,
but he's like, I'm pretty right leaning, and you could
tell he was just shook.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Also he was not I saw that clip and he
said he like came on the scene after the fact,
so he didn't even he hadn't. That guy was even like, damn,
sounds bad, but like, yeah, yeah, he didn't give me
what actually happened. And now we've got the footage from
multiple angles of this agent in a situation where they
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did not have to in any in any sense, just
murdering someone in cold blood. It's you know, as they
drove by.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, it's it serves so multiple purposes.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You increase the agitation level in the country, You get
to make an example of people who stand up to ICE,
get to score another point in the brutalization of people
in this country. Like, it's serving this administration in every
possible way. It's it's consumed the headlines from every other
terrible scandal that we're having to witness from this administration.
(08:54):
Yeah and yeah, and now they're doing you see the
propagandists on the right a fucking full pedal to the metal,
being like, well, this person was this is this person's
a domestic terrorist, or like you know, this is why,
this is why you can't be it, this is why
you can't be interfering, As if that's a fucking justification
to be to fall victim to a summary execution.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Christine suggested that this is part of a cour She
was like that this was an attack on ICE agents
by a left wing terrorist, like using their car as
a weapon, and it that it's part of a coordinated
effort where they're like receiving it like she was, like
they must be like getting some shared training, uh to
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tell them how to do this. This was a person
who was frightened because some two agents were attacking her,
trying to yank her out of her car and pulling
pulling a gun on her as she was trying to
drive away. And and that's clear to fucking everyone, Like
nobody is looking at that and being like they're no
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ES trained operator who knows how to fucking attack somebody
by using their car as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Like the I mean the people that you you you know,
and again like you're saying the algorithmically inflated takes that
you've seen, be like justifying it, and the thousands of
likes from whoever the fuck I mean, like I'm sure
for the people who probably see it and are trying
like I'm thinking of like you know, maga, people who
maybe have like a shred of soul inside they see it,
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and then they certainly have to go figure out like, Okay,
how do I make this okay my mind? How do
I make this okay in my mind? Because certainly it
can't be right everything I stand.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Give something guys come on, like, is she did she
Antifa at least?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, And they're gonna say, and you know, I'm sure
they'll come out with deeper smears because it's the same
thing that happens to every person who falls victim to
state sanctioned violence.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're gonna get they're gonna be like.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, man, she went to Pakistan once or something like,
I don't know, who knows what the fuck they're gonna say,
she did yoga, man, So she's a fucking like it's
so predictable, and it's just so transparent what the president
and all of the freaks around him are trying to
do to this country and what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I mean, it's make no mistake.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They went to the fuck that there were blocks from
where George Floyd was murdered. Yeah, you know, like they're
going back to the scene.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, they're like, we we need to win that one.
We need to go back and revisit that one like
Rambo and Rambo two. We got we gotta make this
happen again so we could fucking win.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, Because I mean, you look at everything that's the
declaration of martial law, potentially a suspension of elections, like
this all follows a playbook that you know, up until
this point, everything you hear from Stephen Miller, he's basically
being like, just look to Nazism to figure out where
I'm at. And with the playbook I'm I'm operating from.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, he Trump himself was saying during the last
election that this will be you won't have to vote again,
this will be the last election. I think that this
is the playbook. Whether it is successful, I think I
think there's a problem with designed incompetence, which is that
all the people trying to execute it are fucking incompetent,
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and it looks like shit, and like it's not convincing anybody.
And I think they're going to have like twelve percent
of the population that thinks they're actually telling the truth
on this one. But this is the playbook, and it's
a matter of like how Americans respond at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, because I do think like this.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, we saw this with this administration going into
another country and without any justification other than we were
taking their oil. You know, we like that it's all
a piece of the same thing, and people aren't stupid,
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like they're going to recognize like this is not like
there's a reason that's Americans don't want to be the
bad guy. Like what, I know that America has been
the bad guy in a while, but most Americans didn't
realize that that's what all the lying in propaganda has
been about all these years. I don't think they want
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to openly understand that they're the bad guy, and I
feel like this administration is making that forcing them to
like make that choice.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh, you're saying people who haven't had their eyes open at.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
All, Yeah, exactly, Like the vast majority of people aren't
in this country, aren't like, yeah, America's fucking the the
villain of history for the past two dents.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's definitely a minority take for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, But I I just think that this administration is
just like I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe everybody's
just cynically like, yeah, we're the bad guys and that's fine.
But I feel like there's a reason that the government
has felt like they needed to lie to people for
so long, and now now they're no longer doing that,
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And it'll be interesting to see if people are just
like willing to go along with that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Maybe they will do I mean, that's hope, not they
hope that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I mean again, all of this helps to get people,
you know, uh to the point where they're so despondent
that they'll just roll over. Yeah and yeah I think
they issue too. There's like so many things that that
set this place apart from other countries. Which is odd
too because like you see a lot of people from
like you see it on Reddit all the time, where
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like people in Europe are like, you got to do something,
You've got to do something, and you're like, well, quite agreed, agreed,
But here's the thing. The examples you have or you're
gonna get murdered if you even look at a police officer.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So that's changing the stakes.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So from so now we're caught in this period of
trying to understand what tactics will work. Who is it
who can lead this because it's certainly not the politicians
and you're stuck in this place. Which is also funny
too because.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You think for like American people who are like, oh,
I mean, what else you going to? Like, you know,
what what can we do?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's like, oh, so do you understand like while people
why people flee other countries? Right like when you're in
a situation where it's.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I haven't really thought about it. I think they just
came here for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's all like my head's fucking spinning right now. But
maybe let's take a break because there's more to talk
about too. We're right back, and we're back. Yep, yeah,
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I GT.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I guess the other question, like my my first question
is like, who the fuck is that person grabbed that, like,
the person who just murdered somebody in broad daylight in
front of you know, dozens of witnesses, is like why
where are they going? Why are they able to just
like walk away? Why are the other ICE agents around
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them like fist bumping and like seemed to be like
laughing in the immediate aftermath of it. So, I mean, yeah,
people immediately called for an investigation of what happened in
you know, potentially a prosecution of the person who again
obviously committed cold blooded murder in broad daylight in front
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of a bunch of witnesses and you know, while people
were filming. And the latest we have is that the
FBI is not is officially blocking the investigation into the
death without any explanation.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, they're Bureau of Criminal apprehension, I think is what
the Minnesota's sort of like law enforcement investigation body is.
They thought it was going to be like a cooperative,
cooperative thing, and then they've just said the Feds have
said it's there, allowing us to access any anything, no evidence,
no nothing, So now cash buttel's.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Fucking band of fucking weirdos as.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Who knows what they're gonna come out with, but I'm
sure I doubt that they're gonna come to the conclusion
that this person actually needs to be held to account.
It was interesting because Tom Homan the borders are who
and real life drunken barncat was doing. His first reaction
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was we're gonna have to look at this. Yeah, yeah,
this is You're gonna have to take a second and
look at this and really figure out what's happened. Let
the investigators do their jobs, and a shooting like this,
it's not good to jump to conclusions, which was kind
of wild because every single person for the administration was like,
they're left wing domestic terrorists.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They deserve that. They're they're they.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Were trying to ram the car and someone must have
got to him because then he kind of twitched his
tune up right after.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
But it was interesting to see that one was like.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right, I looked at it. Sorry, I just needed
a literally a second and looked at it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We're good here.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
No, But he was even like he was leaning on
was like law enforcement experience, Like I've been a cop
since nineteen eighty four, and like this is just how
you have to do things.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And then.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You have to go out of your way to murder
somebody as they drive by you.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, but then you do an investigation and then you'll
spare them and then you'll be free from any consequence.
I mean, like, the one thing is that people are
talking about is that this ICE agent, would it be
immune from state charges potentially, But.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, I mean there's no way that there's gonna be
federal charges. There is a question that people are talking about,
like there's the law has generally been favorable to federal
officials who violate state criminal laws. And this dates back
to a very strange case involving a US marshal who
shot and killed a lawyer and former chief Justice of
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the State of California who had a beef with Supreme
Court Justice Stephen Field and so the Heartward Yeah, he
was working as a bodyguard and shot this guy on
a train who was threatening a member of the Supreme Court.
But last year the Court in a case Trina Martin
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who her house was mistakenly raided by the FBI in
twenty seventeen and like they burned her carpet, broke her doors,
fractured her railings, and the FBI was like, that's hey,
that sounds like a yp me to you, to me
and I it not not our problem. And so that
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actually got advanced all the way to the Supreme Court,
who was like, yeah, no, like you can't just like
do that. That seems you can't. If you're clearly in
the wrong, then they can sue you. And so people,
I mean, it's still very vague, but it does seem
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like they can maybe there's some standing.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But even then that feels so inadequate somehow, because it's
such a larger thing. And I think that's why this
is such a instructive moment. This is such a big
moment for elected democrats, right, And I'm not I'm not optimistic, no,
but they should be shutting the government down.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
They like they.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Have to something, something has to happen that can grind
this government to a halt on some level to try
and get people to fucking wake up to what exactly
is happening, because it's it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Getting it's getting worse and worse.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And I think, you know, this is like the kind
of I've used this example before. This is that I
remember talking about this in twenty twenty about people turning
a blind eye to out of control policing and white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is like, it's like mold on a loaf of bread.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Just because the mold is at the other end of
the loaf and you're on this end of it doesn't
mean that it's not coming for you eventually. Yeah, and
then the process consumes everything around you until it gets
to you. And so the idea that people that you're
safe from this or this is that this will somehow
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just kind of even out, I think is a false
sense of comfort. And at a minimum, I think it's
very important that at a minimum, right, you need to
really begin to organize the community that you're in. And
not to say that you are in charge of organizing
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the community that you're in, but you need to really
get engaged with your neighbors. You really need to, because
that is the one way. That's like the first thing
you need to have is if you know everybody around
you and you know their needs, and they know your needs,
and they know what you got, what you bring to
the table, they know what you can they can bring
to the table. Yeah, that is that that is a
sense of community that is very potent and it's something
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that we've done for millions of years as human beings,
the idea of being social and caring for each other.
And I think that's an instinct that Donald Trump absolutely
wants to like catterize in the American public, so they
don't do things like videotape ice agents to try and
hold them to account and do all these other things.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it's just a very Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
What is going to be done at that federal level
to change anything.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh, I don't think anything at a federal level. Yeah,
I think you're exactly right. That's why it has to
be very very local and like interpersonal because uh, it's yeah,
they're they're doing everything and you know, they're taking us
out of the context of that. Every time you're on
like social media in the news feed, like they're they're
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taking it out. They're trying to abstract us from the
people around us, and you know, make it so that, uh,
we're part of this larger project of what supremacy and
violence and just make it makes it easier for for
them to kind of manipulate and control.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah and yeah, now I think and then predictably, now,
like the line from the Administration of Republicans at Large
is like, you know, the people of.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Minnesota are being seditious.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Now the mayor of minister of Minneapolis is seditious because
he said told Ice to get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Yeah,
and there and again the same it's they're the same
rhetoric is also like of trying to explain what happened
is well, this is happening because we have out of
control political rhetoric and the left is vilifying and demonizing
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law enforcement. So you're getting these out of control vigilantes
who are vigilantes?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
What vigital is?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Ice, bro, what do you think that you are? You
are creating these people and giving them uniforms. So try to,
you know, really guard your sense of humanity right now,
because it's it's like a full core press, Like we're
clearly in this new there's a clearly this next phase
of escalation that's happening because I also think a lot
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of this is tied to the looming midterm terms.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, where the.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Republicans privately are completely despondent and nihilistic about their chances
of holding up.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They can't let that, they can't let those happen. Essentially
seems to be where they're at in terms of the
political reality of the situation. Yeah, and so I feel
like everything that happens going forward should be at least
partially understood through that lens that they are going to
lose their ability to do this overall project if they
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if they let those elections happen.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And so, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And you know, unfortunately, like the nature of our politics
has allowed for just these like self centered, like neoliberals
to enter Congress at a time of like relative quote
unquote stability. Okay, like I use that very like terms
and conditions apply to that term, s toe. But now
that we are in a moment that requires people of
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tremendous character in those positions, Like you're you're seeing what happened.
It's like, well, all the people that you put onto
the starting starting five are actually not built for this fight.
At all. And that's another thing that I think, just
I think the one thing I'm trying to tell myself is.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Like everything, knowing your community and.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Knowing what is immediately around you and being able to
shore up that kind of support is step one. And
that's not scary at all. It does have to be scary,
but trust that that is a source of safety.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It's fun in life, affirming to get to know people. Yeah, yeah,
I'm doing this in my new neighborhood. Now nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And I'm and I'm heartened by the fact that, like
when I talk to people, they're.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Also like, oh, you should meet so and so up
the street. Oh, I'll introduce you, oh this other thing.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
And I'm not doing it on so like what are
we gonna do about white supremacy type shit.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm just like, hey, how you doing, what do you do? Oh?
What's up? Cool? I guess I just moved over here. Oh, really,
nice to meet you. Oh what do you do? Okay,
that's your kid? Great, blah blah blah blah blah. Oh
what's your number? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh you work with the Just that just that alone
creates the kind of bonds that help you realize that
you are not facing any of this by yourself, because
right now it's so easy to look at your cell
phone and look at just the fucking doom scroll that
everyone and I'm sure is doing and go holy fuck
and feel so.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
People around you are like these assholes that you're seeing
on you know, who might be in fucking Russia for
you know, like as we found when they made people
use locations public earlier, so you can of Russia, like
I think, I think it might still seem far fit
people that like Trump is going to suspend the elections
and suspend democracy, but like the everything that has happened
(27:07):
so far in this second term has really like that
that writer M Gessen who lived through the rise of
Putin and is like, you know, you will be like, man,
this is as bad as it can get, and then
a year later you'll be like, man, when we said
it was as bad as it could get, it was
(27:28):
so much better than it is now. I feel like
people need to understand, like this is it. It's going
in that direction absolutely. I mean, everything has just been
a steady march towards America being a fascist dictatorship.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I think the one thing I think about too
especially as it become a parent or not become now
that I am a parent, is that my child will
not have anything close to the childhood I had in
this country, Like and not that it was idealistic orything,
but like just knowing how different that is because I wasn't.
(28:06):
I was like right before the mass shooting generation, you know,
so like I never knew lockdown drills, but now that
stuff happens for him and now, And we didn't have
ice goons around. I was just police officers batting up
people of color. But like in this, in this way,
with this kind of yeah, I mean, so much is
(28:26):
on the line, and I think, I'm I'm I'm I'm
like talking to my friends, I'm like the where like
we need real leaders, yea, And not to say that,
like we can't figure these things out on our own,
but I'm hoping that some movement, like a tangible movement
can come out of this that is truly people led,
where people understand what the stakes are for just like
(28:48):
normal working Americans and configure to like find a way
to move towards something that feels a little more just.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But I think their plan is worse than we are imagining.
Then a lot of people are imagining. I think their
ability to execute it might be I don't know, like
tenuous based on the fact that you know, what we've
seen from Trump and what we've seen from the people
that he's put into power.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But I think that like all the more reason that
we need to find ways, we need to find leadership,
we need to find ways to resist. All right, Uh,
that's going to do it for us this morning. We
are back tomorrow with the Who last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, Be kind to yourselves.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Get introduce yourself to your neighbors if you haven't already. Yeah,
it's a little just a little step, just just say
hiet to get to know how, who are your kids?
What are they up to?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Maybe maybe don't lead with who are your kids?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What? No? No, all right, any I just moved. All right,
never mind, never minded.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Never mind, never mind, never mind, spread my way, get
your vaccines way, still can't get your flu shots, don't
do nothing about white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
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Speaker 2 (30:15):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trending
for January eighth, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'll get it. I'll get it. Eventually you get we'll
get twenty twenty five. It could be twenty yeah, whatever,
fucking whatever. Man. Yeah, welcome to Trending man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
What a day, What a day? What a day. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm Jack O'Brien. That over there is my co host,
mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Could you do with a little more energy, please, a little
more pizzazz, set.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
A little zip on this one.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, what a time. I
mean like obviously this is all going to just be
about the the murder of Renannicle good.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, as we it's funny yesterdays.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
As we were putting together to the doc, the headline was
like ice involved shooting in Minneapolis. And then by the
time I got to look at the news once we
stopped recording, it was just the video everything was out
and you're immediately just thrown right back into Jesus, like, yeah,
the thing that you all we've seen happen on accident
(01:12):
in La Remember we saw that one time where the
fucking ice guy like shot his own hand, right because
you Because we have a bunch of fucking losers with
guns out here, pretending to be trembo.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Just giving guns, given badges and told to do whatever
the fun and told that the government in there but
in there, so I don't know exactly what they're being told,
but it does seem to be just like gun the messaging.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I see the messaging, which is essentially do look, we'll
back we'll We'll back you one hundred percent. The comments
that will come out of this administration will absolute lies
to shield you. But yeah, another person killed by ice.
You've probably seen the video if you haven't, or maybe
you need to see it fully to understand the depths
we're continuing to plunge down into. But it wasn't even
(01:57):
like the video itself. It was like everything around it
that was just so fucked up, Like to her wife
who was inconsolable.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Video of her wife on the scene.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
To the glove box that had stuffed animals in there
because they had just dropped off their six year old
at school, not to mention a child who has already
lost their father in twenty twenty three, now orphaned. I
think just no, I think that most people know who've
seen it and even just read it, that there Renana
Cole Good was in no way trying to run over
(02:30):
an ice goom. Like these assholes were not stuck in
the snow, contrary to what Christy Noman was saying. They
pulled up on Goods car without issue and able to
drive off after the shooting.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So the FED version is that they were stuck.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I saw Trump's So Trump's statement was that she willfully
and viciously ran over the ice officer, not tried to.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Initial and he went to the hospital, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Viciously ran over the ice officer who seems to have
shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip,
it's hard to believe he is alive but is now
recovering in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He attached him where the guy walks off after he
pulls up his mask when he realized.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Don't know what clip he's referring to, but every fucking.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Video as fucking dementia.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Dude, he cannot fucking acknowledge the reality of any situation.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure we.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Probably read the same articles where like reporters were confronting him.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They're like, Good is this what you're talking about, because
here it seems like she drives around him, trying to
get away from him, as he's pulling his gun out,
and as somebody is another ICE agent with a mask
on is yanking at her door violently and saying.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Get the fuck out of the car.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, she's trying to drive away from them, her wheel
has turned all the way to the right to try
and get away. Yeah, and he shoots her as she
goes by, as she goes by three times.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So I don't have you seen that image where like
his aid pulls out a laptop to like counter this
and be like, okay, well look at this clip. And
then one of the reporters like, well, well, we told
him that this angle did not appear to show an
ICE officer had been run over. Trump said, well, I
the way I look at it, and just kind of
trailed off like he was even waffling when they like
(04:21):
she said.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, she didn't try to run him over. She ran
him over. And then she he said again, this is
this person isn't.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Even a reliable narrator for when the last time he
took a shit was right, So to have him try
and see the new one, you see it, which is
again too obscure and just complete anyway, So this isn't
the first time ICE has shot and killed a person,
the first time they've shot at people for filming them.
(04:49):
This apparently like the ninth person has been shot since September. Yeah,
and this is not going to stop because white supremacy
is an all consuming ideology and has been a cornerstone
of American culture from the beginning. The victim being white
doesn't change that. If anything, it's a stark example of
(05:09):
how white supremacy will consume its own in pursuit of
a reality that will never come to fruition. Unfortunately, it
will just leave a trail of bodies. And these goons
are in our streets because of this fantasy, right, Like,
these people were there because of this fantasy of a
white America and continued exploitation that this country's addicted to.
(05:29):
And good people know that America is at its best
when we embrace each other and learn and share and
we're like, yes, bro, we're in this together. So these
good people come to defend their neighbors, like Renanicle Good
did just to take a video of the activity of
ICE goons, and in that moment standing for good, you
(05:50):
become an enemy combatant in the eyes of white supremacy
and doesn't matter what your race is, and another life lost.
I mean, state sanctioned violence is nothing new, and the
lesson here is not new. It's just hard to see
the same tragedy play out over and over again. I
know black and brown people have definitely been talking about
this and.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Like this this is a white woman. Is this going
to change it?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Because we've they've been it didn't matter when we were
getting killed by police.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Will this do something?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And it's I think I don't know, But what I
do know is that the outrage that is being felt
across the country is very, very acute. Yeah, and unfortunately
this is part of this is part of the plan
though too is every Like we've been saying from the
beginning of these ice raids all that he needs a
Reichstog fire.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, we've talked a lot about it, like designed incompetence
at the high levels where he has like fools in,
you know, positions of power and you know by having
them there, he can get them to do whatever he
wants and they're going to always be loyal to him.
But I think there's also the designed incompetence of putting untrained,
(07:03):
violent people on the street with guns and just being like, gonuts,
if you see a brown person, kidnap them and if
anybody gets in your way, you know, you do whatever,
you do, whatever you want. And by doing that, he's
going to create they're going to create more outrage. Because
(07:23):
I think you're right that, despite what a few like
sort of algorithmically inflated white supremacists on Twitter are saying,
I think most people look at the video and are like, what.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The fuck are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, there was a guy in the local news who
was an eyewitness who was like and like, politically I'm
pretty right leaning. I mean, the guy I think was
probably trying didn't want to say I'm a Trump supporter,
but he's like, I'm pretty right leaning, and you could
tell he was just shook.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Also he was not I saw that clip and he
said he like came on the scene after the fact,
so he didn't even he hadn't. That guy was even like, damn,
sounds bad, but like, yeah, yeah, he didn't give me
what actually happened. And now we've got the footage from
multiple angles of this agent in a situation where they
(08:16):
did not have to in any in any sense, just
murdering someone in cold blood. It's you know, as they
drove by.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, it's it serves so multiple purposes.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You increase the agitation level in the country, You get
to make an example of people who stand up to ICE,
get to score another point in the brutalization of people
in this country. Like, it's serving this administration in every
possible way. It's it's consumed the headlines from every other
terrible scandal that we're having to witness from this administration.
(08:54):
Yeah and yeah, and now they're doing you see the
propagandists on the right a fucking full pedal to the metal,
being like, well, this person was this is this person's
a domestic terrorist, or like you know, this is why,
this is why you can't be it, this is why
you can't be interfering, As if that's a fucking justification
to be to fall victim to a summary execution.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Christine suggested that this is part of a cour She
was like that this was an attack on ICE agents
by a left wing terrorist, like using their car as
a weapon, and it that it's part of a coordinated
effort where they're like receiving it like she was, like
they must be like getting some shared training, uh to
(09:39):
tell them how to do this. This was a person
who was frightened because some two agents were attacking her,
trying to yank her out of her car and pulling
pulling a gun on her as she was trying to
drive away. And and that's clear to fucking everyone, Like
nobody is looking at that and being like they're no
(09:59):
ES trained operator who knows how to fucking attack somebody
by using their car as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Like the I mean the people that you you you know,
and again like you're saying the algorithmically inflated takes that
you've seen, be like justifying it, and the thousands of
likes from whoever the fuck I mean, like I'm sure
for the people who probably see it and are trying
like I'm thinking of like you know, maga, people who
maybe have like a shred of soul inside they see it,
(10:28):
and then they certainly have to go figure out like, Okay,
how do I make this okay my mind? How do
I make this okay in my mind? Because certainly it
can't be right everything I stand.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Give something guys come on, like, is she did she
Antifa at least?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, And they're gonna say, and you know, I'm sure
they'll come out with deeper smears because it's the same
thing that happens to every person who falls victim to
state sanctioned violence.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're gonna get they're gonna be like.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, man, she went to Pakistan once or something like,
I don't know, who knows what the fuck they're gonna say,
she did yoga, man, So she's a fucking like it's
so predictable, and it's just so transparent what the president
and all of the freaks around him are trying to
do to this country and what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I mean, it's make no mistake.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
They went to the fuck that there were blocks from
where George Floyd was murdered. Yeah, you know, like they're
going back to the scene.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, they're like, we we need to win that one.
We need to go back and revisit that one like
Rambo and Rambo two. We got we gotta make this
happen again so we could fucking win.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, Because I mean, you look at everything that's the
declaration of martial law, potentially a suspension of elections, like
this all follows a playbook that you know, up until
this point, everything you hear from Stephen Miller, he's basically
being like, just look to Nazism to figure out where
I'm at. And with the playbook I'm I'm operating from.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, he Trump himself was saying during the last
election that this will be you won't have to vote again,
this will be the last election. I think that this
is the playbook. Whether it is successful, I think I
think there's a problem with designed incompetence, which is that
all the people trying to execute it are fucking incompetent,
(12:13):
and it looks like shit, and like it's not convincing anybody.
And I think they're going to have like twelve percent
of the population that thinks they're actually telling the truth
on this one. But this is the playbook, and it's
a matter of like how Americans respond at this point.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, because I do think like this.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, we saw this with this administration going into
another country and without any justification other than we were
taking their oil. You know, we like that it's all
a piece of the same thing, and people aren't stupid,
(12:57):
like they're going to recognize like this is not like
there's a reason that's Americans don't want to be the
bad guy. Like what, I know that America has been
the bad guy in a while, but most Americans didn't
realize that that's what all the lying in propaganda has
been about all these years. I don't think they want
(13:20):
to openly understand that they're the bad guy, and I
feel like this administration is making that forcing them to
like make that choice.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh, you're saying people who haven't had their eyes open at.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
All, Yeah, exactly, Like the vast majority of people aren't
in this country, aren't like, yeah, America's fucking the the
villain of history for the past two dents.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's definitely a minority take for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, But I I just think that this administration is
just like I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe everybody's
just cynically like, yeah, we're the bad guys and that's fine.
But I feel like there's a reason that the government
has felt like they needed to lie to people for
so long, and now now they're no longer doing that,
(14:10):
And it'll be interesting to see if people are just
like willing to go along with that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Maybe they will do I mean, that's hope, not they
hope that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I mean again, all of this helps to get people,
you know, uh to the point where they're so despondent
that they'll just roll over. Yeah and yeah I think
they issue too. There's like so many things that that
set this place apart from other countries. Which is odd
too because like you see a lot of people from
like you see it on Reddit all the time, where
(14:39):
like people in Europe are like, you got to do something,
You've got to do something, and you're like, well, quite agreed, agreed,
But here's the thing. The examples you have or you're
gonna get murdered if you even look at a police officer.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So that's changing the stakes.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
So from so now we're caught in this period of
trying to understand what tactics will work. Who is it
who can lead this because it's certainly not the politicians
and you're stuck in this place. Which is also funny
too because.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You think for like American people who are like, oh,
I mean, what else you going to? Like, you know,
what what can we do?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's like, oh, so do you understand like while people
why people flee other countries? Right like when you're in
a situation where it's.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I haven't really thought about it. I think they just
came here for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's all like my head's fucking spinning right now. But
maybe let's take a break because there's more to talk
about too. We're right back, and we're back. Yep, yeah,
(15:46):
I GT.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I guess the other question, like my my first question
is like, who the fuck is that person grabbed that, like,
the person who just murdered somebody in broad daylight in
front of you know, dozens of witnesses, is like why
where are they going? Why are they able to just
like walk away? Why are the other ICE agents around
(16:06):
them like fist bumping and like seemed to be like
laughing in the immediate aftermath of it. So, I mean, yeah,
people immediately called for an investigation of what happened in
you know, potentially a prosecution of the person who again
obviously committed cold blooded murder in broad daylight in front
(16:28):
of a bunch of witnesses and you know, while people
were filming. And the latest we have is that the
FBI is not is officially blocking the investigation into the
death without any explanation.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, they're Bureau of Criminal apprehension, I think is what
the Minnesota's sort of like law enforcement investigation body is.
They thought it was going to be like a cooperative,
cooperative thing, and then they've just said the Feds have
said it's there, allowing us to access any anything, no evidence,
no nothing, So now cash buttel's.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Fucking band of fucking weirdos as.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Who knows what they're gonna come out with, but I'm
sure I doubt that they're gonna come to the conclusion
that this person actually needs to be held to account.
It was interesting because Tom Homan the borders are who
and real life drunken barncat was doing. His first reaction
(17:30):
was we're gonna have to look at this. Yeah, yeah,
this is You're gonna have to take a second and
look at this and really figure out what's happened. Let
the investigators do their jobs, and a shooting like this,
it's not good to jump to conclusions, which was kind
of wild because every single person for the administration was like,
they're left wing domestic terrorists.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They deserve that. They're they're they.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Were trying to ram the car and someone must have
got to him because then he kind of twitched his
tune up right after.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
But it was interesting to see that one was like.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right, I looked at it. Sorry, I just needed
a literally a second and looked at it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We're good here.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
No, But he was even like he was leaning on
was like law enforcement experience, Like I've been a cop
since nineteen eighty four, and like this is just how
you have to do things.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And then.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You have to go out of your way to murder
somebody as they drive by you.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, but then you do an investigation and then you'll
spare them and then you'll be free from any consequence.
I mean, like, the one thing is that people are
talking about is that this ICE agent, would it be
immune from state charges potentially, But.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, I mean there's no way that there's gonna be
federal charges. There is a question that people are talking about,
like there's the law has generally been favorable to federal
officials who violate state criminal laws. And this dates back
to a very strange case involving a US marshal who
shot and killed a lawyer and former chief Justice of
(18:55):
the State of California who had a beef with Supreme
Court Justice Stephen Field and so the Heartward Yeah, he
was working as a bodyguard and shot this guy on
a train who was threatening a member of the Supreme Court.
But last year the Court in a case Trina Martin
(19:16):
who her house was mistakenly raided by the FBI in
twenty seventeen and like they burned her carpet, broke her doors,
fractured her railings, and the FBI was like, that's hey,
that sounds like a yp me to you, to me
and I it not not our problem. And so that
(19:37):
actually got advanced all the way to the Supreme Court,
who was like, yeah, no, like you can't just like
do that. That seems you can't. If you're clearly in
the wrong, then they can sue you. And so people,
I mean, it's still very vague, but it does seem
(19:58):
like they can maybe there's some standing.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But even then that feels so inadequate somehow, because it's
such a larger thing. And I think that's why this
is such a instructive moment. This is such a big
moment for elected democrats, right, And I'm not I'm not optimistic, no,
but they should be shutting the government down.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
They like they.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Have to something, something has to happen that can grind
this government to a halt on some level to try
and get people to fucking wake up to what exactly
is happening, because it's it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Getting it's getting worse and worse.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And I think, you know, this is like the kind
of I've used this example before. This is that I
remember talking about this in twenty twenty about people turning
a blind eye to out of control policing and white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is like, it's like mold on a loaf of bread.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Just because the mold is at the other end of
the loaf and you're on this end of it doesn't
mean that it's not coming for you eventually. Yeah, and
then the process consumes everything around you until it gets
to you. And so the idea that people that you're
safe from this or this is that this will somehow
(21:21):
just kind of even out, I think is a false
sense of comfort. And at a minimum, I think it's
very important that at a minimum, right, you need to
really begin to organize the community that you're in. And
not to say that you are in charge of organizing
(21:41):
the community that you're in, but you need to really
get engaged with your neighbors. You really need to, because
that is the one way. That's like the first thing
you need to have is if you know everybody around
you and you know their needs, and they know your needs,
and they know what you got, what you bring to
the table, they know what you can they can bring
to the table. Yeah, that is that that is a
sense of community that is very potent and it's something
(22:06):
that we've done for millions of years as human beings,
the idea of being social and caring for each other.
And I think that's an instinct that Donald Trump absolutely
wants to like catterize in the American public, so they
don't do things like videotape ice agents to try and
hold them to account and do all these other things.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it's just a very Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
What is going to be done at that federal level
to change anything.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh, I don't think anything at a federal level. Yeah,
I think you're exactly right. That's why it has to
be very very local and like interpersonal because uh, it's yeah,
they're they're doing everything and you know, they're taking us
out of the context of that. Every time you're on
like social media in the news feed, like they're they're
(23:01):
taking it out. They're trying to abstract us from the
people around us, and you know, make it so that, uh,
we're part of this larger project of what supremacy and
violence and just make it makes it easier for for
them to kind of manipulate and control.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah and yeah, now I think and then predictably, now,
like the line from the Administration of Republicans at Large
is like, you know, the people of.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Minnesota are being seditious.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Now the mayor of minister of Minneapolis is seditious because
he said told Ice to get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Yeah,
and there and again the same it's they're the same
rhetoric is also like of trying to explain what happened
is well, this is happening because we have out of
control political rhetoric and the left is vilifying and demonizing
(23:57):
law enforcement. So you're getting these out of control vigilantes
who are vigilantes?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
What vigital is?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Ice, bro, what do you think that you are? You
are creating these people and giving them uniforms. So try to,
you know, really guard your sense of humanity right now,
because it's it's like a full core press, Like we're
clearly in this new there's a clearly this next phase
of escalation that's happening because I also think a lot
(24:24):
of this is tied to the looming midterm terms.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, where the.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Republicans privately are completely despondent and nihilistic about their chances
of holding up.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They can't let that, they can't let those happen. Essentially
seems to be where they're at in terms of the
political reality of the situation. Yeah, and so I feel
like everything that happens going forward should be at least
partially understood through that lens that they are going to
lose their ability to do this overall project if they
(24:56):
if they let those elections happen.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And so, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And you know, unfortunately, like the nature of our politics
has allowed for just these like self centered, like neoliberals
to enter Congress at a time of like relative quote
unquote stability. Okay, like I use that very like terms
and conditions apply to that term, s toe. But now
that we are in a moment that requires people of
(25:24):
tremendous character in those positions, Like you're you're seeing what happened.
It's like, well, all the people that you put onto
the starting starting five are actually not built for this fight.
At all. And that's another thing that I think, just
I think the one thing I'm trying to tell myself is.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Like everything, knowing your community and.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Knowing what is immediately around you and being able to
shore up that kind of support is step one. And
that's not scary at all. It does have to be scary,
but trust that that is a source of safety.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It's fun in life, affirming to get to know people. Yeah, yeah,
I'm doing this in my new neighborhood. Now nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And I'm and I'm heartened by the fact that, like
when I talk to people, they're.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Also like, oh, you should meet so and so up
the street. Oh, I'll introduce you, oh this other thing.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
And I'm not doing it on so like what are
we gonna do about white supremacy type shit.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm just like, hey, how you doing, what do you do? Oh?
What's up? Cool? I guess I just moved over here. Oh, really,
nice to meet you. Oh what do you do? Okay,
that's your kid? Great, blah blah blah blah blah. Oh
what's your number? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh you work with the Just that just that alone
creates the kind of bonds that help you realize that
you are not facing any of this by yourself, because
right now it's so easy to look at your cell
phone and look at just the fucking doom scroll that
everyone and I'm sure is doing and go holy fuck
and feel so.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
People around you are like these assholes that you're seeing
on you know, who might be in fucking Russia for
you know, like as we found when they made people
use locations public earlier, so you can of Russia, like
I think, I think it might still seem far fit
people that like Trump is going to suspend the elections
and suspend democracy, but like the everything that has happened
(27:07):
so far in this second term has really like that
that writer M Gessen who lived through the rise of
Putin and is like, you know, you will be like, man,
this is as bad as it can get, and then
a year later you'll be like, man, when we said
it was as bad as it could get, it was
(27:28):
so much better than it is now. I feel like
people need to understand, like this is it. It's going
in that direction absolutely. I mean, everything has just been
a steady march towards America being a fascist dictatorship.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I think the one thing I think about too
especially as it become a parent or not become now
that I am a parent, is that my child will
not have anything close to the childhood I had in
this country, Like and not that it was idealistic orything,
but like just knowing how different that is because I wasn't.
(28:06):
I was like right before the mass shooting generation, you know,
so like I never knew lockdown drills, but now that
stuff happens for him and now, And we didn't have
ice goons around. I was just police officers batting up
people of color. But like in this, in this way,
with this kind of yeah, I mean, so much is
(28:26):
on the line, and I think, I'm I'm I'm I'm
like talking to my friends, I'm like the where like
we need real leaders, yea, And not to say that,
like we can't figure these things out on our own,
but I'm hoping that some movement, like a tangible movement
can come out of this that is truly people led,
where people understand what the stakes are for just like
(28:48):
normal working Americans and configure to like find a way
to move towards something that feels a little more just.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But I think their plan is worse than we are imagining.
Then a lot of people are imagining. I think their
ability to execute it might be I don't know, like
tenuous based on the fact that you know, what we've
seen from Trump and what we've seen from the people
that he's put into power.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But I think that like all the more reason that
we need to find ways, we need to find leadership,
we need to find ways to resist. All right, Uh,
that's going to do it for us this morning. We
are back tomorrow with the Who last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, Be kind to yourselves.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Get introduce yourself to your neighbors if you haven't already. Yeah,
it's a little just a little step, just just say
hiet to get to know how, who are your kids?
What are they up to?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Maybe maybe don't lead with who are your kids?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What? No? No, all right, any I just moved. All right,
never mind, never minded.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Never mind, never mind, never mind, spread my way, get
your vaccines way, still can't get your flu shots, don't
do nothing about white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
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Speaker 2 (30:15):
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Speaker 3 (30:17):
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