Alex Jones Lost The InfoWar, We Are All The Kardashians 8.6.18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season forty three, Episode
one of the guys. We're August two, eight teen. My
name is Jack O'Brien, a k the New Jersey Drive
Sound Jack Volume one, and I am thrilled to be
joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Great.
It's my great, are your wedding day? It's a freezer

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when you've already paid, and none of those things are ironic,
as Chapman Rice Ak got his points out, So yeah,
thank you for that one, Chapman. I'm just digging in
the archives for old ones and shout out everybody for
sending through the fire ones. They got some good ones
this week, but yes, it's starting the week up stream.
Irony was already a word with a difficult definition, right,

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that was overused and misused by people, And then she
dropped a number one hit, right, just completely misused the
phrase ironic. I mean ten thousand spoons when all you
need is a night It feels cruel and also just
the most surrealistic. Yeah, alright, too many spoons to be logical.

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We are thrilled to be joined our third seat by
the hilarious comedian and creator of the Never Seen It
podcast on the hilarious lap show boast Rattle, where people
battle rat compliments. He is Kyle Man. I didn't know
if I was supposed to chime in about the Atlantis
morset thing. Go ahead, what do you guys? I feel
like it would be like if someone made a song
called literally Now they were just talking about things that

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weren't literal. We don't even We all argue about the anyways, right,
Although that one's a little bit easier to define it,
it's so abused and like, I know, you had a
Dictionary change the definition two means figuratively. It's indiction, like
Webster change the definition to be figuratively there like whatever,
you know, it's fluid and you're like, alright, Dictionary, you

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have too much power. We've had a brief hiatus the weekend.
I've had a brief hiatus of a full week, and
now we're back and we're going to tell our listeners
about the Kardashians episode one of season fifteen. Uh. This
is not normally something that we're going to be covering,
but it is trending on Google and I think actually

(02:16):
the fight at the center of this episode represents something
about our culture. So We're going to talk about that.
We're gonna talk about Apple and Facebook stepping up and
taking Alex Jones off their platforms as well as YouTube,
which is more important. Uh. We're gonna talk about a
article in the Sunday New York Times about how the

(02:37):
age of mothers is sort of a symptom and a
cause of the widening gap between the two Americas. We're
gonna talk about how Trump admitted that the Trump Tower
meeting was to get dirt from the Russians. He just
again another one of those moments where like thiss in
now sketch, It's just like so is that? It is?

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It over? Nothing matters anymore. Uh, We're gonna talk about
Trump's war of words with Lebron But first up, Kyle, Finally,
what is something from your search history that is revealing
about who you are? I went and I looked at
it because I'm more of a Yahoo guy, But I
looked at my my Yahoo they call your lapses. I

(03:20):
don't know what they call it. That seemed right though, Um,
your Cubans because Mark Cuman and my The last thing
I looked was never ending story movie poster. No text?
Is there one? There is you'd be surprised how many
people have removed the text from movie posters for I
cannot understand why. Oh, but were you looking to purchase

(03:42):
I use it for you talked about I've Never Seen
It podcast, and I photoshop people on the movie posters
a lot, and I found a whole subset of the
Internet that is people who remove text from movie posters
for no reason. And now I'm friends with them and
they helped me out a lot, so I don't have
to do it. There is an overabundance of people with

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photoshop skills in the world, truly incredible, and they have
skills like really gifted people. Like when people made you
kill Monger all the time with the problematic, that was amazing.
Somebody made me look like I was. It's so weird
that there's a giant group of people all across the
whole world that have a skill of being able to
alter the truth at home, Like we could just make

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up lies that people could believe all over the world.
I feel it's like one of those things too, when
you're like when you're in the computer age of our youths,
like when you have that kind of app in front
of you, it's you start teaching yourself. And because I
remember the beginning, I was kind of getting into teaching
myself how to do photoshop and stuff, but I got
more into doing like music stuff than photo stuff. I
could put a good face on another face, a good

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at that. I'm good at matching up, like putting people
on movie posters. Very specifically. The last time I did that,
it took my friend. I was putting my friend like
someone into a wedding photo that wasn't there, and it
took me like three hours. It would have been easier
for them to just fly to the wedding. Yeah. Probably,
By the way, Myles was holding down the old guy
thing with me out last week. So when he says,

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with the computer age of our youths, that's just it's slow.
It's a slow transition. But we will get back to me.
I have to purge it out how to use photoshop,
and he let me know he's off. Now you don't
use Alta Vista whipper snapper. Yeah. I looked it up
on Incarta and they looked the photoshop actually should be
having a new version. It wasn't on the disc. It's

(05:29):
just shoved into the track back at my map like,
what's wrong with this? Did you photoshop anyone's face onto
one of the Luck dragons or do you not know
what to luck? Do you know? I've never seen never
never ning story, but I photoshop my face onto uh
woman with jewel on her forehead and then jewel Head.
Yeah yeah, yeah, jewel Head, which is a big fan

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of jewel Actually someone follows her on tour and as
well as it is in this movie, and then just
put other people's face. I don't know any of the characters, okay.
In fact, I saw the poster. I was overwhelmed. It
was like rock guy man on rock Guy, jewel Head,
Jewel culture, the actual jewel Yeah. I think Hillmonger was
in this one. Betray You, Tray You. I knew just
because that band band. I was like, there's a band,

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and I thought the White Dog Flying White Dog was
to try you, but apparently I was wrong. Those are
elect dragons and they are cavalier King Charles heads with
like caterpillar bodies, like caterpillar King Charles. Yeah. Yeah, what
is something that is overrated? I thought about this a lot,
and I really this is what I think Star Wars

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is vastly overrated, as especially in particular the oldest original
three movies are not very good. Wow, this has come
up before, and we asked that person to leave the studio,
like we're going to ask you to know. Uh, yeah,
first of all, what's wrong with you? Bro Okay when
you scroll down my note. I think it's one of

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those things I've had to wrestle with being a huge
Star Wars fans, especially with the new trilogy has come
out slowly. I've had to look back and be like,
it's not that those movies were good. I just really
liked that time in my life and like what those
movies were at the time of my life. Yeah, but
some people can't actually separate the two and they're like, no, actually,
that is one of the objectively one of the greatest,

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the greatest films that have ever been made. I watched
all of the Star Wars movies at the same time,
right before what was the j j Abrams one for
the Force Awakens came out. I watched all of them,
and I then I watched The Force Awakens, and then
I saw the one the Last Jedi and the Rogue one,
and I think I like the Last Jedi, And then

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I would say like the Empire Strikes Back is pretty good,
and then there's kind of a drop off and the
rest of them are just fine. I agree with that.
I think that's right. Did you like Force Awakens? Yeah,
it was pretty good. I thought it was pretty it was.
I watched it and the first one in the same
week and they were kind of the same thing. Yeah,
that was like it was still a good story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
One of the most sort of excess actually terrifying moments

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for me was when a few years ago I watched
Teen Wolf again and I still loved it, and I
was like, oh, so this means that my taste in
movies was like purely imprinted by Teen Wolf, and like
I view all movies through a teen Wolf shaped lens.
Of this movie sucks. Was that one where the guy's

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friend looked a little bit like teen Wolf and he
reflew the Millennium falcon around that wolf on a plane?
Oh yeah. My favorite Disney film, Beauty and the Teen Wolf,
was as pretty good. It was the one where it
was just Wolf and he also played Oh, air Bud.
That's small Wolf, Small Wolf Basketball. That's my second favorite
movie Airbud and my first favorite A small Wolf yeah,

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I mean, would you say I think they're good? Yeah, yeah,
it's definitely not worth the fucking toxic fandom that's out
here acting like there existing. Maybe that's where this popped
into my head. Maybe it's not even Star Wars as fault.
Maybe it's just like all of it's it's exist purely
because of the circumstances really brought out the toxic fandom
and like it was interesting to see. But yeah, I

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think that's when I'm like, oh, come on now, like
it is not that serious where you're out here. But
then what about their T shirts? Yeah? I don't know it,
but it's all right. I think they're all right. I
don't know if it's the greatest film franchise. Every time
another good Mission Impossible movie comes out, I'm like, well,
this is climbing my ladder. Of all of these are

(09:27):
very good, and Mission I Possible to do you the
Mission Possible too, I I have you know what's crazy?
Is the only Mission Postle I haven't seen is the
first one? Wow? I thought I think two was the
worst one, but I feel like it's pretty good. But
the rest of them are like incredible. Man, Yeah, Mission Impossible.
I think one I nearly broke my dad's laptop computer
because I was pretending to be like a fucking I

(09:47):
m F agent on it, because like it was so
heavily branded with Apple laptops. In the first one, like
like fun the space bar up and he's like get out. Yeah,
So I had to use an abbocus for the rest
of my life. No hackers use Apple podcast or Apple
not podcast. Well, Jamie, Jamie out of Earth. So yeah.
I've listened to some sports talk radio Philadelphia sports talk

(10:12):
radio on my vacation as one that I had to
drive from Philadelphia to the Jersey Shore, and I came
to the conclusion that The Godfather is the Star Wars
of like a generation older than us. Like literally there's
like twenty Godfather references per hour on sports talk radio, right,
I feel like everything is just at least it lines

(10:34):
up with like macho culture, like the Mob, whereas like
you can't be like whoa that came out of nowhere,
like and you're like what That was always something I
loved about the Sopranos. I've never seen The Godfather any
of them, but I love in the Sopranos that they
wanted to live this they they'd seen good fellows in
The Godfather, like in their world. They keep referencing it,
and then they actually do want to spoiler for they

(10:55):
go to Italy and this isn't I thought it would
be like that. All the guys would we were like,
what are you freaking talking about? Yeah, FBI talks about that.
In a couple of books, I read about how The
Godfather totally changed how the Mafia themselves actually behaved. Like
before they were like small time criminals who had just
like stabbed each other in the back, like just like

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you know, stereotypical criminals. And then like the Guyfather came
out and they started like talking about family and yeah,
like just adopted the code of behavior from the Guyfather.
That's how I've been. I've changed my stand up since
the movie Funny People came out and now I live
with Jonah Hill. What is something you think is underrated?

(11:39):
I think this is a new thing for me. I
think people hate on Drake too much. I think Drake
was like the one of the most famous people in
the world is still underrated. Wow, what do you mean?
So what do you mean He's underrated? And I think
he gets a lot of crap because he has emotions
and once again this is all knee jerk stuff. Drake
has entered my life and maybe the past four months
four hours, Um yeah, I just look sorry Drake and Josh. Yeah,

(12:03):
I just scroll down in my notes. I think he
he seems like a nice This thing happened where I
would always be like, I don't like Drake. I don't
like Drake. Oh, and then I beg, oh, that's a
good song. Who's that? Oh that's Drake. So it's just
I kept being like, oh, that's a good song. That's
a good song. He seems like a nice guy. He
loves his hometown, he loves the NBA, which I'm obsessed with.

(12:24):
He seems super cool. I don't like that guy. It's
like back, I like this guy, but everyone seems to
hate on him, and I don't really know what he's done.
I think Drake's an easy target to make jokes about
or just you know, talk shit about Drake just because
he's an easy target. But those same people are also
going to be like, yeah, of course I got the
new Drake album. Yeah, But it's just easier because he's
not He doesn't have the same persona as a lot

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of like other rappers before, like where they were all
like I came out of very difficult circumstance and I'm
about a very specific type of subculture where he was
like I'm a child actor from Toronto. Yeah, I don't
think people. People seem to not elevate him to a
level of an artist, but they more see of him
as like a churned pop singer or something like that.
And I don't know, he seems to have a personality.

(13:07):
Once again, so little information about Drake that I actually know,
but I feel like, come on, let's give this guy.
Come on, let's just start giving him the benefit of
the doubt like we do a lot of other Let's
give him the better I mean, he's he's fine. And
even despite him being dismantle fan base from this, Yeah,
I think anyone hasn't You should check him out. He
has some stuff on Apple Music and spell that for

(13:30):
its d R. I think there's a line above the K. Yeah,
perfect um. And finally, what is a myth? What's something
people think it's true that you know? This is? This
is what could not be a bigger shift? I guess
in my we're talking about some entertainment stuff, right, I
worked at the Genius Bar for years and year, like
six years, like a long time, and I think at
the time, when something is wrong with your computer or

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your phone, it is your fault. People think that there's
uh planned obs lessons. People think that these things are
supposed to break, so they buy new ones. That is incorrect.
People don't know how to use them, or people have
improper expectations for their technology. So give me what's a
very frequent thing where people are conveying phone is slow.
My phone is slow. You want me to buy a
new one. Oh, I bet you made these headphones to break,

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so I'd have to buy new headphones. Oh that's like,
what the kind of ship you're fielding at the Genius
party every day? It's not like every day. I don't
know how to put this face on this straight up.
Them are like you just see people's dicks on their phones,
and they haven't I saw dicks every day and it
is what it is. And then looks that their phone
is broken, and then once it comes on their screen,
savers lots of times less shame about their naked photos themselves.

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And and then some people this is a kind of tangent.
Some people, I think it is their thing, like in
some sort of like they want voyeurism at them. But
people would come in and be like, my phone is
kind of slow, and then everything is naked photos on there.
So what does it for them? Is a stranger seeing
their naked photos. There was I don't know how much
if I sign it. And anyways, I helped this one

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cop in New York all the time with this case,
and she was so attractive and she would always come
in and it would be me or one other genius
helping her, and she was just a different naked and
she would watch me see them and that's for Yeah.
It was incredible. It was like the whole act of it.
She would be there and people like, oh, you know

(15:22):
the cops here again you naked picture. And I'll be
like okay, and you know, I go and she'd like,
my headphone Jack has some lint in it or something.
I don't know. Maybe that was like a metaphor, and
she was coming on like I need to get the
lint out of my headphone jack. I got a brush,
and then you would look in her phone just be
a new photo of like a lot of effort put
into it, but just naked photos. Are, and it would
be lock screen, then wallpaper. People will be like, my

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phone's full, and you're like, yeah, it's just a million
pictures your dick. You like, I don't want to delete him,
and I don't know if you empty the trash is
another metaphor. But um, you've taken a picture of your
dick every hour on the sense you've had this thing.
You're taking one right now and then a live stream.

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Sorry about these photos? Man? Does that look normal to
you regular dude to genius? Well, see, and it depends
like the size that dick affects the size of the
photo too, so you can take more pictures. That's not true.
I don't want to and be like what if it
was a megabyte? But I just love also maybe the
idea that the cop was really doing some deep digging
and like maybe thought one or two of the people

(16:27):
the genius, but I was a suspect and was like
trying to gauge reactions like yeah, that's him. I know.
Full of photos of fingerprints. Do you recognize a DNA
test app? It was, uh, yeah, I don't know how
we got so many. Do you keep in touch with her? Uh?
We actually never touch in any know, it's all about

(16:48):
proper expectation. She's just moved on to another genius bar.
All right, let's get into a story that we must
unfortunately addressed because it is trending on Google. Uh. So
you guys are making us talk about this. The Kardashians
had their season fifteen premier on Class and still talking

(17:16):
about do you have Adobe premier? And so they were
trying to stage some of the like light fluffy conflict
that forms basically the spine of the show. Uh. They're
trying to organize a shoot for the family Christmas card. Uh.
But for some reason, Kim got like really mad at

(17:37):
Courtney and accused her of not having a business she's
passionate enough about, which is the ultimate Kardashian diss And
you know, Chris the mom, joined in, and when Kim said, Courtney,
you're annoying, she was Chris just she always sides with
whoever has the biggest, you know, business of her family.

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She was like, Courtney, you are annoying. It's amazing. It's
a funny thing for a parent to say to a child. Yeah,
just a side with the other one. It's like, I
get it, you are annoying. Actually I think we have
audio of this conflict. Let's listen. Lets do it at
seven in the morning. Do it at seven in the morning.
Who are you meeting with? Be nice, you're just doing

(18:25):
at ire and go out of here and go. No
one wants you shoot. I'm planning it is nice too,
So we don't want you in the shoot. They're talking
about a family already the morning. I don't care to
do it. Don't be in it. Just annoying. No, But
it's like I'm not, No, are annoying Courtney? Cool mom?

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Thanks scheduling about their people at our day. Don't even
know what I'm talking about. So that is a burn. Wow,
you don't have a business. It sound like a sketch
from a rap album, the way that the music dropped
and rops to whoever. And it's that altogether. Actually, the
pacing was really nice. I missed those rapping and loses.

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But yeah, it's just I guess you know, in that family,
if you're not a revenue stream, you're not a child. Yeah,
they look at it. So Courtney walks out of the
room at that point, and Kim says that Courtney doesn't
need to come to the photo shoot because Courtney is
the least interesting to look at in the family, uh,
which is a very I mean, the least amount of
plastic surgery. I don't know, but that's such a good

(19:37):
burn for that's so specific. It's not you're ugly or
you're two pretty or interesting, least interesting and to look at. Essentially,
it's like she has the fewest social media followers or yeah,
uh something like that. Um. But Courtney, by the way,
was trying to schedule the Chris This card shoot around

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the fact that she wanted to have dinner with her
children at four o'clock. Oh that's why she was like,
I have a heart out at four because I want
to go have dinner with my children. And so Kim
was essentially like, you are not serious enough about your brand,
and I don't know, I think it's uh interesting because

(20:22):
Kim is like sort of the Avatar slash fertility idol
of our current moment, where like sponsorship and your brand
and getting paid for branded content on Instagram is like
one of the coolest careers you can have, and like
selling out is no longer a bad thing, And in
that respect, Courtney's representing things that used to matter, like

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being a mom who gets to be home with their kids,
and Kim is like it's totally foreign to her. It's
like it's an alien concept that she would want to
do that to spend time with her family, Like, why
aren't you commodifying your fucking existence? And she eventually tries
to cut her out of a branded version of Family Values,
which is a Christmas card Capital capital V. Family Value

(21:09):
exactly that they can then I'm still going away with
the let's lead in early August with the Christmas card
conflict to get everyone with the relevant seasonal episode. But
that's how serious they are about their brand. Wait, but
unless is that? Does that mean that this was actually
shot around last Christmas and now we're just seeing it
now because it's been through posts or are they Christmas

(21:32):
card release? Yeah? And they're just they're so they're so
busy that they're like, Okay, I know it's March, but
we have to get our Christmas thing done. But I
do wonder both if people who are fans of the
show would respect that and be like, yeah, that's how
serious they are about their brand. That's a pretty good photo. Actually,
super producer and just super producer Anna Hosnie I just
brought the photo up. Wow, it looks like they fell

(21:53):
right into the exist the photo in question that was taken. Man,
they're doing the same dumb ship. Okay, we're blue g
in white shirt, but ripped because we're the Kardashians. Look
if we're gonna have some family that is on the
Royal family of the United States, I'm alright with it
being the Kardashians descending from the o J Trial. It
just there's I think there's nothing more American than the

(22:13):
o J trial on and the dad should be afford
the royal right, I always wanted to get that's the
trial was so crazy that the biggest car company in
the country discontinued a vehicle right because they're like because
one guy showed it rides smooth on a highway. It
just makes me so cynical when ship like this is trending,
and I get that this is a phenomenon that people

(22:36):
are so invested in, but I think also me being
an only child, I look at like sibling conflict. I'm like,
this seems like very unnecessary confident. Why don't they just
kill all but one of them? Yeah, only one should
survive some reason. I used to always hate the Kardashians.
It was, it was grounded and absolutely nothing except the Internet. Now,
I'm like, they seem fine, Kim seems pretty smart at least,

(22:59):
stuff all over this and then who edited this thing together?
I'm like, so, how script does this? Where did this
come from? Something else? Him? You know? But I also
spend time with your kids? Seems nice, but it does
seem fully like she is going mask off and just
basically like, these are my values. My values are all
about branding, and you know, you are not interesting to

(23:20):
look at so fun right off, and then like shaming
her with like with her lack of perceived business acumen
to like, you don't even know what it's about. Can
you should write wrestling promos? Like it's just such a
specific cutdown right, Yeah, I'm sure she should. Because then
after hearing Anna and Sophie talk about like remember that
one time and she fucking destroyed her with a voicemail
and I'm like, because she was mad that Chloe woke

(23:42):
her up, that's a dope finishing move, Like I can
I committed homicide via voice But like, if she was
a professional rust her finishing mood would be having a
recording of the voicemail where you contradicted what you're saying today,
and she would just play this. She back, actually six
years ago you thought this, and then they immediately fall
to the mat. Three. All right, we're gonna take a
quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back, and

(24:16):
Alex Jones is having a bad day Myles gasp, gasp, Oh,
poor Alex Jones. Yeah. No, So, like we talked about
Alex Jones every now and then and just how awful
of a person he is. I mean, he's he's a
dangerous person. He and he deals in very dangerous conspiracy theories.
I mean, obviously, like he tried to say that the

(24:38):
survivors of the Parkland shooting were paid actors, or that
the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax, and also was
a big had a big role in spreading the pizza
gate theory, which led to like real world ship where
people were showing up in places with guns and mean,
like I'm here to save these kids. One of the
guys who had his seven year old child killed in
Sandy Hook, we interviewed him back at correct and he's

(25:01):
just had his life completely destroyed by Alex Jones and
his like followers. Yeah, and I think finally friend of
the pod uh Jared Holt who works at right Wing Watch.
I first saw him tweet about how like Spotify wasn't
taking down his his show, his podcast on Spotify because
it clearly was violating like the hate speech uh terms

(25:23):
and conditions on the platform, and there was like it
seemed like a little bit of momentum was gaining and
I Spotify purged one of his shows. Like there's a
couple other info war shows up. But now like Apple
and Facebook have and YouTube have all base of come
out and said sorry, we're banning you from the platform.
Like on iTunes, all of his podcasts are completely gone. Uh.

(25:45):
YouTube has banned the Alex Jones channel, which has nearly
like two and a half million followers, and they've all
basically kind of saying that, like they are violating our
terms in service where where you have policies against hate
speech and harassment. And clearly his shows and the material
that he discusses, you know, motivates people to either harass
people or just kind of uh, it's just super divisive

(26:06):
or just peddling, and really, you know, racist conspiracies are
just other evil type of misinformation. I know this thing
happened when he was going through like child custody and
turning where he started to say he was a caricature. Right,
But there's something where if if performance are artists, what
you elicit out of your fans, you're not allowed to
rebuke their behavior, do you know what I mean? So

(26:28):
if he you see things where these people are going
to harass these these parents of children are killing like
Sandy Hook or whatever, you're not allowed to disavow what
your fans are doing that you say to do, Like
you can't distance yourself from the right, right, and so
you gotta put up with the fact that that's what
you actually want. No. Yeah, And it's put him in
a lot of legal and financial trouble too, Like he's
he's had to you know, like switch to more like

(26:50):
other methods of creating revenue because he isn't able to
get the traditional advertisers he used to because of a
lot of this stuff, because like more and more people
are sort of being aware like oh wait, I'll he's
knew the name Alex Jones and just thought he was
like some Russia limboss sort of right wing talking head.
But you're like, oh, No, he's really like on some
whole other ship and it's explicit, it's not there's nothing

(27:12):
implied about him. Yeah, exactly. These people are paid actors,
different calls for action for people. Yeah, right, And so
he has moved to selling what he calls nutraceuticals, which
just uh, you know, pills filled with sawdust that he
claims will give you better erections or better directions or
make you way smarter or shaped. Like if I tried

(27:34):
to draw someone and I'm not I'm not that good
at drawing, but it's like it's got all the parts,
but you're like, this is proportions are weird. There's a tracing.
There's an amazing photo where he's like after he took
his like before and after a shot of him taking
his like caveman supplement or whatever, and it's basically the
same photo with different light. It was like a little
bit redder, and like this function hasn't done an The

(27:57):
caveman pill just put you in a cave where the
lighting is worse, right exactly, and you get rosation and
that's about it. But yeah, I think this is like
a thing that you know, Facebook really should have been doing,
Like they dragged their feet a little bit, and I
think they finally came around, but it seems like now
with Apple and Google, they're really kind of looking at
and they're like, this is bad for our platform to
have this kind of stuff on there. And you know,

(28:19):
his followers have find many other ways to get his
his content because clearly, like the info Wars app is
still on, like the Apple Store and things like that,
so trying to get your get your info War on
you can still do that, but you know, places like
Apple and Google like, we don't want to host this
is to cut off the head of convenience for casual
people where it's like that, you know, there's the people
who really really want something, who really believe we're gonna

(28:41):
find them out, but just casually finding new people and
starting to rope them into hate speech. If you can
cut that out before you get to it, No, absolutely right.
He has a team of people, and you know a
lot of hate groups have teams of people who are
figuring out how to teams of lizards. I mean, you know,
our listeners might not know, but yes, of course there
and uh they know how to game the YouTube search

(29:04):
engine and the YouTube suggestion engine, so that if you
watch the Prouder film, you know, or something that isn't
necessarily a right wing conspiracy video. It knows how to
like get Alex Jones in your results so that you
can try and hook a new person well and suggest
it to you. So you just go in a downward
spiral of like chauvinism and xenophobia like intense seconds. Basically

(29:27):
it's so crazy and dangerous. You see all these things
where people post screenshots of YouTube where they like, if
they look up Sandy Hook on YouTube, all of the
research results for someone with the empty search is how
it's fake. How it's like it's this is what's being
given as fact because it's the easiest, most accessible information,
and it's just it's scary that it can come from
legitimately anywhere. And I think YouTube has to be on
the chopping block next because when you consider the amount

(29:50):
of videos that are there, which are I mean, I
remember just last week I was trying to look at
some like just hear some Jordan Peterson talks, like just
to kind of because there was like a lot of
Bates that they frame is like watch Jordan Peterson own
Hysterical Woman or whatever, and it's like you're just trying
to figure out how to win an argument with your girlfriend,
right exactly, like come on, jan I hate how do

(30:13):
I like flip it on hers if? But no, and
then like suddenly completely fucked my algorithm. And now every
single video is like watch Gavin McGinnis show you what
being a man's like. It's off that one watching poop
it out like a man, like a man Western chauvinists,
and yeah, like it's very it's so easy. The next thing,

(30:34):
you know, like you're slowly getting inoculated with all this
other terrible information, and I think, yeah, YouTube also they
have to really kind of look at what their platform
does too, because I mean, yeah, the the amount of
conspiracy theories, there's something there's some straight horrific about giving
equal weight to facts and not facts and saying you
look up moon landing. Everything is about how it's fake.

(30:55):
It is not it happened. It's a fact, it's not
I met buzz al Dren. Is there a wind on
the moon? Um no, the flag wasn't waving either. So
this thing happens where and even like news outlets will
be like they're reaching out to people like hey, we're
looking for someone who thinks the Earth is flat to
come on to debate whether or not the Earth is flat.

(31:17):
And you can't give equal weight to this. You can't
keep saying, oh, there's two sides of this story. There isn't.
There's not two sides to stories and giving it that
gives it legitimacy for people who don't have the mental
aptitude to critically think, especially like anything just your liberal
slant man, because you believe in science right. Doctors are lying, Bro,

(31:38):
That's why they're trying to fucking inject us with all
that ship and we're gonna you know, I see the
fucking matrix, bro. Look I read it on Facebook. It's
got it, you know. I saw a meme so speaking
of sort of culture wars, and uh, they're being different,
uh versions of reality for different Americans. It seems like

(31:59):
Americans are increasingly living in two different countries. Uh, and
based on like the amount of money they make and
you know, how they vote. And The New York Times
ran an article over the weekend about how the age
that mothers give birth is actually a huge dividing line

(32:19):
that is actually likely to uh push those two versions
of America further apart. It's already, like as a consequence
of people moving to their various corners. Uh. You know,
liberal people are more likely to live around liberal people.
Conservative people are more likely to live around conservative people now.

(32:40):
And in addition to that, they're more and more likely
liberal women are more more likely to have children later
so that they can go to college. Uh. And conservative
women are more and more likely to you know, view
the family and their role as a mother as extremely meaningful,
and they're more likely to be pro life, and therefore
they're more likely to have children at a younger age.

(33:02):
And that just makes it more difficult for them to
go to college. And it also you know, has something
to do with that they're less able to afford uh colleges,
and so you know, they are less likely to have
college is something that they're considering. So it's just a
it's basically encoding our current divisive politics into almost generational

(33:26):
tribes like that will be passed down because mothers who
wait until they're out of college to have children are
more likely to be able to make a middle class
or greater income and more likely to be able to
send their children to like summer camps and you know,
private schools, summer camps, So you mean immigrant detention facilities,

(33:47):
different types of summer camp we're talking about. Actually, uh,
you know, one of the big uh dividing points as
the summer like backslide where basically people who chill dren
who go to public schools are basically even until the summer,
when children with more wealthy parents are you know, go

(34:09):
to educational experiences. Whereas children whose parents are like working
you know, around the clock and don't have the money
to send them to like summer camps or to summer
schools or whatever. Uh, you know, they you know, back sled.
And that's where you see the division. It's not when
they're in school. It's actually during breaks that you see

(34:32):
the division happen. Um. But anyways, it's just, uh, it's
just another way that we are seeing this sort of
divide growing larger and larger. Uh that I don't know,
I found it pretty interesting. Well, yeah, And as like
you're saying, people sort of go to their corners or
people who are more inclined to be around, like in

(34:53):
rural communities and in urban communities, the job growth is
also like concentrated those places too. So like when you know,
Trump talks about communities. Well, so, you know, Trump talks
about how good the economy is and things like that,
but like, you know, the Associated Press putout this analysis
basically of job growth in the country, and they're showing
that like a bulk of a lot of the hiring

(35:16):
of like the added jobs are occurring in counties that
voted for Hillary Clinton, which are a lot of these
urban centers, and so fifty eight percent of the job
gains were in Hillary backed counties from But what if
that doesn't fit my narrative in my head? Well, and
I mean, then just go to another website or fin
or start a blog where you write the information you

(35:36):
need and then passed that off as objective truth to
a person who it's a it's a blog I have
for going back in time to own libs called lib tartists,
dot com back and fantastic. But yeah, and then they
found that also when it comes to like the counties
that are losing jobs, thirty five point four percent of
Trump counties have shed jobs in the last year, compared

(35:56):
to just nineteen percent of Clinton counties. So even for
people who are like touting, oh yeah, the president is
doing so well, it's even in the counties that one
they're actually experiencing contractions or less job growth than they
are and like the actual urban centers. And it's and
it must be easier for those people to begin thinking, oh, well,
you know that's right, because we need the wall or
these other things, because how do I explore and you

(36:19):
can sort of either present it as overall there's growth
and I'm attributing that to the man that I like,
or the growth isn't helping me, and that's because he
hasn't been able to prevent this thing that I falsely
created is taking If anything, guys, just keep asking it's
the wayes that we need because clearly the people there
are many places like in the cities, where they have

(36:39):
just so many job openings, but it's the fact that
they're not good jobs and that they fucking pay properly
that people can like live off of it, which is
the other thing. It's like it obscures really what the
state of the economy or the state of you know,
the workforce, right, yeah, and I mean the unemployment numbers
look really good. But the thing with rural communities shed

(37:00):
jobs was going going on under Obama. But you know,
the big policy shifts under Trump have been you know,
boons for corporations who are typically housed in urban locations.
They're not helping rural communities in a in any noticeable way.

(37:21):
So what happened over the weekend? I tried to keep
Trump news out of my brain as much as possible
on my VACA. So can you explain to me what
the latest is with the Trump Tower meeting? Okay, so
you've heard of you've heard of Donald Trump, yes, okay,
you've heard of Senor thank you. And you've heard of
Dju Don Jr. Okay, so we know Don Ju And yeah,

(37:45):
it's like from when they Homer said, thought that was
a content aggregator on Instagram. Uh and then so, uh,
you know, he's clearly over the last week we were
talking about how how he's so transparent and signaling his
frustrations and how you can tie every single tweet back
to a specific news story that he's just addressing. It's

(38:05):
not like, oh, he's saying stuff again. It's like most
of the time, it's like you can attribute it back
to a news story that's been on this show. Within
the last second. By the way, is paying attention to
his Twitter And yeah, I think he definitely he internet
right right investigation. So yeah, there was a there was

(38:28):
an article in the Washington Post that sort of described
how Trump is sort of increasingly going from angry to
more worried about Don Junior's legal future since you know,
up and done a spiracy against Mirka. Uh. And so
they say, and from the article, I say quote Trump
has confided to friends and advisers that he is worried
about the Mueller probe and how could destroy the lives

(38:50):
of what he calls innocent and decent people, namely Donald
Trump Junior, who is under scrutiny by Mueller for his
role organizing a June meeting at Trump Tower with Russians
promising dirt on Hillary. And then they go on they said,
he does not believe his son purposely broke the law,
but his fearful nonetheless that Trump Junior inadvertently may have
wandered into legal jeopardy. Uh. That is very I like

(39:12):
how the warding shifts there. Yeah, that he did that,
but may have even break the law. But maybe by
the end of this long sentence you'll think about something
else he done stumbled into a conspiracy, like his car
freezes jumping over it like God, Junior done got himself
into a whole message. And then the car lands on
the other side. But you have both cars definitely have

(39:34):
the rebel flag on them. But yeah, you know, since
the president is like the rapper bone crusher and thus
never scared, he fired off this tweet just to prove how,
you know, so relaxed he is. And so this is
a tweet from I think yesterday from five three in
the morning. Uh, fake news reporting a complete fabrication that
I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son Donald

(39:54):
had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get
information on an opponent, legal, totally illegal and done all
the time in politics, and it went nowhere. I did
not know about it. Okay, So here's the thing. It
almost seemed like he gives a ship about his son,
which is the most striking thing because Eric, he wouldn't
have said my wonderful son. Yeah, I mean I think
both have said my I think taller, Yeah, I think

(40:16):
other son. Uh yeah, so I guess he cares about him.
But the whole thing of you know, like this happens
all the time and it's legit is total bullshit. I mean, yes,
getting opposition research is you know, a huge part of
running and I remember one person I heard actually broke
into a hotel to do it. Yeah, yeah, I mean
so the APO part. We I think we all understand

(40:38):
that you need that to sort of create negatives about
or pull out negatives about your opponents. So then the
voters will be like, oh, Okay, maybe he doesn't his
voting record is this, But to accept any help from
a foreign national or hostile foreign government, see, that is
a crime. Uh. And it's a completely different situation. And
the whole thing of like well it went nowhere and
blah blah blah is like it's like not that it's

(41:00):
one for one, but it's like, well, yeah, I hired
the hitman to kill, but he didn't kill. Imagine if
Lee Harvey Oswald hadn't killed him, He's like, I shot him,
but he's not like dead. Well, and I mean not
that it's completely one for one like that, but he've
engaged in the conspiracy to commit this crime. And you know,
they want to say, like, well, there wasn't even good stuff,
like isn't a real defense. It's definitely shifted from this

(41:23):
has never happened, This didn't happen how you said it
did this happened, but isn't a crime. This happened, but
maybe as a crime and he got nothing too. Now
the next steps is this was a crime. Like it's
just slowly shifting, right, and you're running out. And it's
the same thing with like his talking heads that have
to go out. So like Rudy Giulian, he had a
terrible couple of weeks in the last two weeks, or
he was just going on like like literally breaking news

(41:46):
or then walking it back in a way that he
was confusing, like people on Fox who were trying to
like walk him through his logic. It's incredible to watch
Rudy Giuliani navigate any conversation that's not about nine eleven,
right or the Yankees. Yeah, yeah, that's only his his
two strong points. You know, I told you to throw
that pitch out, So that's me. Uh. And so when

(42:06):
he saw the last yesterday on the Sunday shows, one
of Trump's lawyers, Jay Sekulo, he went on to George
Stephanopolis's show, and even like, you know, this week was
looking bad because there are also reports about like, yeah,
Trump knew about Flynn being compromised and still asked Comey
to ease back on the investigation, thus creating an obstruction

(42:28):
of justice case. And even Jay Seculo, I think he
literally reached into his bag of like rhetorical rebuttals and
literally grabbed nothing and through this just weird argument out.
So this is his defense of the president's probable obstruction
of justice. Are you suggesting what would be a problem

(42:48):
if the President pressure James Comey to let the Flynn
investigation go after knowing that Michael Flynn was under criminal investigation. Well,
I want you to to understand something. I mean, I know
this sounds remarkable to lot of people, but if there
was investigations going on on Martin Luther King Jr. And
do you think if President Kennedy would have gone to
jed Gar Huber and said, hey, stop that that that

(43:09):
would have been an obstruction of justice coin and of
course not that would have ben article to authority. But
none of that has happened here. There's been no shutting
down of any investigations, no shutting down of any inquiries.
That was I love the just complete silence on the
other end, And he asked that question. Incredible, Like I
think he's hoping the person would be like republican. Yeah,

(43:34):
so he's on the penny. It's yet the arguments are
getting thinner and thinner and worse and worse, and yeah,
this is just kind of again, I don't even understand
the logic there is that, like, because Martin Luther King
was probably being harassed by the FBI because he was
like doing some because of his civil rights leadership, that
they identified him as like a threat for your stability

(43:55):
in this country. I think he meant today though, if
he had asked Kennedy today to slow it down, you know, Yeah,
I don't it's it's very it's yeah, I don't know.
I mean it makes sense to me because that was
a corrupt FBI that was persecuting an innocent person and
trying to portray our FBI as persecuting an innocent president

(44:18):
and all of his innocent henchman, because innocent people have
henchmen and he uh, you know. But it's just when
you find yourself comparing uh Flint or yeah, Michael Michael
Flynn to Martin Luther King Jr. Like that's the point
where you're like, oh ship, no, no, no no, no, Like
that's that doesn't pass the anything test. Uh yeah, I

(44:43):
think you know, and it makes sense as the manifortual
heats up because like the other reporting, it really is
that like it's less anger now and it's a lot
more fear. That's from from people who are like talking
to aids behind the scenes. But again, who I mean scared,
but we're all scared. We're also living in until something happens.
Nothing's going to happen, yeah, exactly, like look at what

(45:03):
has happened right right, Yeah, and just on the everybody
else does this, A lot of people are taking that
meeting thing Trump's defense there. Uh you know, we we've
talked about this before, but Al Gore in preparing for
a debate with George W. Bush, Uh, he was handed
basically all of George W. Bush Is preparation, like all

(45:27):
of this whole coloring books, his study book, like all
the arguments, all the ideas. He was gone, and he
immediately turned it over to the FBI, probably partially because
he thought he was just gonna roll over Bush and
like I didn't think it was gonna be a problem,
but also, uh, you know, the thing that he was
afraid of was probably well, what if it's from the

(45:50):
Russians or something. You know, like, how are we to
know who this the source of information influencing an American
presidential Like that's you know, want to be involved in
a vast conspiracy to throw this election. And now he's
an award nominated filmmaker, right, and but you know, Trump
in this case knew that it was from Russia, and uh,

(46:12):
you know, at least we know that Donald Jr. There's
some balls to the defense of well, but it was
lame information. These idiots are lame. It wasn't even good.
It wasn't like these guys suck. But yeah, like a
lot of people point out that, like this isn't the
first time Russians have tried to help a presidential candidate,

(46:32):
and they've all turned it down. Like I know, there
was they were saying in the eighties four Moscow was
like they offered help to quote any candidate of either
party as long as they were against Reagan and people like, no, dude, again,
you know, he was definitely not touted by Republicans is
the greatest president of all time? Right, yeah, alright, we're

(46:53):
going to take another quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back, And you were just mentioning Reagan, and
I think it's there is an image going viral over
the weekend of two elderly gentleman at a Trump jazz

(47:17):
session rally, and Pennsylvan presidents still have numerous rallies for themselves,
just talking about how cool they're uh where they were
wearing shirts that said I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat,
which is uh, yeah, that's a big swing. That's a
big swing. Yeah. And this ties into something we talked

(47:39):
about a couple of weeks ago, this idea that we
are because the Internet and you know, digital media has
completely uh we live most o our lives online, geographical,
you know, borders are becoming less important and lots more ideological,
and they would rather be Russian than Democrats because Russians

(48:01):
agree with them on a lot of points, I guess,
which you know, for most decades of the previous century, Uh,
most liberals were many were being accused of being communist
Russians and that was a bad thing, which was bad
at the time. But now we're a communist Russia. So okay,
it's like I don't even know what again, you know, well,
it's authoritarian Russia, and that's what they're on board with

(48:23):
because we could just take those pretty onion shaped buildings
they have. I think those are nice. Pretty Are they
made of candy? Only one way to find out, Jack,
Ask a Russian journalist. I'll be back in another couple
of weeks. Go to Russia, climb the Kremlin and lick
that thing. Go to Russia. Tell him you're there to
report a story. Yeah, that would be great. What your

(48:46):
business in Russia? I'm a podcaster for a liberal alright.
So Trump went at Lebron James, Yeah, over the weekend. Yeah,
because he was a black guy who had said something
about at him. And we know that's you know, when
you look at the criteria takes for Donald Trump to
come at you in a non politics setting or even
a politics setting, it's you should be a person of

(49:08):
color who says something about him. As we've seen, like
you can just like kind of has any success Yeah,
as long as as long as Yeah, but those are
the people who really get something out of him, like
you know, other politicians like hold on, what did what
did Lebron's sake? So he was on, Lebron was on.
I did an interview with Don Lemon on CNN to
talk about his new school where he's you know, creating
a like massive opportunity for these kids in acroative being

(49:29):
like just another divisive issue, yeah, opening up schools, rescue yeah,
and being like, Hi, we'll pay for your school, will
get you a bike so you can get to school.
If you don't have food at home, will have a
pantry so you can eat at home. And then thing
you're talking about earlier, where you're talking about like underprivileged
people and people not having opportunities in downtime of school,
the school also has is a longer school year and

(49:50):
then offers up programs for kids. And on top of it,
if you graduate, then they will pay for you to
go to college. I mean, god, what a fucking asshole
Lebron issues. Yeah, And so again that was all fine,
but then it came to a moment where Don Lennon
was talking about how device you know, divisive the current
atmosphere is in politics right now in the country, and

(50:12):
what Lebron is doing is a great thing. And they said,
you know, Don's like, what would you say to the
president if you were sitting across from him, you know,
to talk to him? And Lebron was just very flatly
was like, I would never be sitting across from him
and que angry racist grandpa on his question that is
giving a run for your not interesting to look at
as best specific because that's so specific exactly, but I

(50:36):
would never be across not I would turn down. It's
so specific. I would never be in that situation. I
would never be in a situation to be I would
put myself at risk intellectually. So yes, Then he fires
off this tweet, Lebron. This is this is from Donald J. Trump.
Lebron James was just interviewed by the dumbest man on television,
Don Lemon. He made Lebron look smart, which isn't easy
to do. I like Mike. Okay, So again Donald Trump

(51:01):
does his thing again where he tries to make people
of color be like as stupid people. Uh, and painting
the first Don Lemon, who is African American, is the
dumbest man on television. That's actually you, my man. Uh,
and then going at saying Lebron looks smart. Even though
in the past Donald Trump was all about Lebron. He

(51:21):
moved to Miami. It's his year, it's his year, go Lebron.
But he had he had the audacity to basically be like, no,
you're the president's discussing and I want to be around him.
I'm excited for Lebron James will be worth more money
than Donald Trump, like he definitely already is. And it's
it's it's so what an incredible thing to take any
time of your day doing as the president. Right of

(51:41):
the thing. And I love all the tweets that are staring,
like Lebron puts kids in school in three days after
the school opened. Now is the time come at him
in the finals. There's all these times where a bunch
of people be like, I hate you, but I agree
with you, right, But now it's like Lebron James stock
could not possibly be higher, right, Yeah, And you know

(52:04):
I like how because he said I like Mike so
que Fairy. Michael Jordan's response is just sort of like,
I support l j He's doing an amazing job for
his community. Yeah, but he meant Larry Johnson, he supported
them for being in space, Jam. I support Grandmama Larry
Dramas on his all of his efforts for the Charlotte
basketball So one disclaimer, the react juice in those converse

(52:27):
sneakers aren't actual juice. But yeah, I guess the whole
that's also such an MJ thing too. He couldn't have
given more, you know, he's a standing an asshole. Yeah,
Republicans by sneakers to famous quote, yeah from Michael Jordan's. Yeah.
Plus kids in cages make great shoes. Yeah, exactly a
tiny hands to get those laces. I'm wearing Nikes right now,
and I'm like that hypocritical Michael Jordan. I bought George's.

(52:50):
I bought in Chinatown in New York. Like, yeah, the
money thing is something that I hadn't thought about for
a while. But the fact that, like the myth he's
most worried about people finding out about him is that
he's not as rich as he says he is. So
I do wonder, like, do we think all of this
is just a distraction so that people will stop asking

(53:12):
for his tax returns, like the Democrats might be seeing
those tax returns real quick. But I think the other
thing it's funny too, now that you say that, is
that there is a lot that I think that resonates
with a lot of Americans that do vote for Donald
Trump and a lot of Americans in general. And I
talked about this last week. It was just sort of
this idea that a lot of people also spend money

(53:33):
to simply fight off the appearance of not of being poor,
like and that's a lot of the situation when you
look at how the there's just a virtually no middle
class or whatever, and people don't earn enough on the
spectrum for the time that they put into their jobs.
Like Donald Trump, he's lying about what he's got. And
it also appeals to people who might be in denial
that their situation is actually a lot worse than it

(53:54):
isn't like, yeah, they probably not like the most politically
productive line of attack, but it is the one that
would hurt him the most. You've never seen more people
with no business talking about it telling me why bankruptcy
is a good move. You know what I mean, what
are you talking about. We're all at Wendy's right now, exactly. Well,
actually smart to go bankrupt, it's smart, it's a it's

(54:17):
a freaking bankrupt. You just asked to dip your fries
into my Yeah. Uh, look, we're all in this suberpool
right now. I don't need to be learning this from
the driver. And then also Melania even got messy too,
because she just came out of nowhere without without being
asked for comment. She wasn't at an appearance anywhere. She

(54:37):
just had her spokesperson put out a quote that just
but was just. It looks like Lebron James is working
to do good things on behalf of our next generation,
and just as she always has, the First Lady encourages
everyone to have an open dialogue about issues facing children.
I'm sorry, this is the biggest I hate so much
that people call people disagreeing about facts open dialogue. Right.
You can't when something is objectively true or false. You

(54:59):
can't have an open dialogue with both sides. Freedom of speech.
It's incredible. Just think about how I feel though, Right,
but I don't. I feel like I don't want to
know what the truth is. No, no, but the truth
scares me. I think we we we skim past the
fact that if Donald Trump's tax returns come out, it's
going to be funny watching him try and remember his
turbo tax password. You like the only billionaire who probably

(55:23):
had to file online, And it's like, what's the free version?
Do I have audit protection? What is it? Thirty bucks more?
I forget it, forget it. If I don't have that,
forget it. I don't have that, I don't have what
do I look? Well, Kyle, it's been a pleasure having you, man,
it's been great being here. Yeah, where can people find you?
Follow you? I just moved to glass All Park. Okay,

(55:44):
I don't really know where that is, but it's a neighborhood. Um,
and it's kind of Kyle airs across on everything, Okay,
consistency And is there a tweet that you have been Oh?
I saw. I think I wrote down two tweets? Can
I do too? Yes? One's funny and then one was
funny and also me so this one is a comedian
Mica Brusi, who lives in New York, tweeted, I know

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the health care system in America is broken because every
doctor I've been to has said it's impossible to make
my face look exactly like the V for Vendetta mask.
And then this one from Alison Livy, who's very funy comedian,
and she said, the writing process, I like this idea. Okay, yes,
this is working. I hate this. I hate this. I

(56:29):
hate this. I hate this. Wait, this is good. I
hate this. I guess I have to send it in.
You know what, that was actually great and that's how
I feel that that kind of got the procrastinate everything
and then it's like not it and it was okay,
destroy yourself in your own head. But I like any
joke about Guy Fox masks and anyone who that's everything
about that makes me happy. You're a big You love
Guy Fox means I do I think anyone. I think

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a big problem with a lot of the generation. I
put myself in his people take fight Club and V
for Vendetta as scribe and real I one understand that. Miles,
how about you, man, Well, you can find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and oddly enough
to tweet. I like, is going off of what you
just said about people's obsession with you for Vandett and

(57:11):
fight Club. This is from my friend Mark Potts, who
works at the l A Times. Uh he put so
this is what America looks like living with the generation
of men who misunderstood fight clubs. It's so true. Yeah,
oh ship, and where can people find you? I already
said that. Yeah, it's only three hour time difference. So

(57:38):
now you say your name in your social handle. Okay,
my name is Jack O'Brien. You can follow me Jack
Underscore O'Brien on Twitter tweet. I've been enjoying I actually
stayed off Twitter for the past week. Good for you.
You look younger, Andrew Lawrence tweeted on which is when
I stopped paying attention to Twitter late two thousand nine. Hey,

(58:02):
gang Bob Mueller here, and now that I'm done with Russia,
I can finally investigate real collusion. I'm of course talking
about the collusion between style and performance found in the
Chevy Silverado. Life is a highway, plays over montage truck
doing truck stuff. Uh that's at and Drew under Scorelards.

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as well as the song we ride out on miles?
What is that going to be? Uh? Today I was
I love Shot and I heard a cover of Sweetest
Taboo by this group called Rebels, and it's got this

(59:06):
like so vibe And maybe I might be confusing my
genres here, but it is definitely a nice rework of
Sweetest Taboo by Rebels so or redeless, I don't know,
you know, and I don't know how they pronounced it.
This is what happens when music just you know, appears
before me. But this is a great rework of Sweetest Taboo.
All right, and we're going to ride out on that.

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How can you forget that? Get merch? Keep the lights
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We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Say,

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if I tell you now where you're born? Where are
you for loving me? If I take if I tell
you how I feel we keep run out the best thing.
You gave me the sweet that stuff that's why you

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give me the sweet that step that's why he loves you.
That's wine storm and stuff off that that this peop all,
let's wine storm, that is you. Let's fine storm and
stuff off that. It's not you far You're given something

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that's the one you give me. The shame that's stubble.
That's why I love you. Give me the sleep that's stable.
So that's I think you're just do stay and I

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think would be don't step away. That's fine storm and
a snuffle fact like this before that's fine storm. That
is you. That's fine storm and it snuffle fact. That's
fine before. You're given something that's the you g me.

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That's spee that stop. That's why I'm in love with you.
You gave me the sway that step to for me

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if I turn if I'm turning out, we love me
if I tell you, if I tell you how I feel,
we keep run out the best city. You gave me
the shay that stuff. That's why I am with you.

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You give me see that stuff, That's why I am
That's why star and the stuff off that that this before.
Let's fine storm, that is you, Let's fine storm and
step about that. Let's not be far if you're give

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him something. That's the moon, you mean, the Swain, that's Stuble.
That's why you got the biggest heart. Sometimes I think
you're just so good for me. Every day is Christmas

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and every night it's an easy where you for loving me,
where you bring the best of we've born. Love you.

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That's why you got the biggest war. Sometimes I think
you're just go canfully and good, smile and busy. Sa

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