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June 17, 2025 22 mins

In this edition of AssassTrends Creed: Shadows, Jack and Miles discuss Stephen A. Smith playing solitaire during the NBA Finals, a brief Trumpdate (feat. Iran), HBO's 'The Mortician",  'Spaceballs 2' bringing Rick Moranis out of retirement and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of assass
trends Creed.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is a bunch of ass shadow Wow, Assassin's cree Shadows.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, that's the one where I get to beat the
black samurai Yaske.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
And that's why I'm mad about it.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm mad.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Where were there black people in the ninja times?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
This ninjas a lady, Oh my god, they didn't exist either.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's wild because, as somebody who played damn near every
Assassin's s Creed game, this actually was like the first
one was like, oh, this one's finally different than the
last seventeen they put out, just with different skins on it.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Anyway, where were we? Who am I? Where we? Who
are we? That over there is mister Miles Gray. This
is Jack.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
This is Jack O'Brien coming to you, Lave from the Zeitgeist.
And this is the episode where we tell you what
is trending. It is Tuesday, June seventeenth, and last week
my favorite journalist, Stephen A. Smith, you know, say what
you will about you know, the journalists, the citizen journalists,

(01:05):
the journalists doing deep dive reports for four or four
media in places like that. Pablo Torre, I've heard people
like him, but I'm a Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Smith guy. I just like what he.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Brings to the journalistic world. And he was caught some
say caught. I would say, you know, he was just
playing solitaire during an NBA Finals game that he was
commenting on that he was like one of the main
people covering, and people for some reason up in arms
about this.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think everybody, I.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Mean, just what, I've never played solitaire, work, you never
played falta.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean, I think this is like one of those
things where, yeah, unfortunately, this guy's pretty jaded because he's
been to three thousand NBA games.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So it's just like this, do you have any idea
how many of these I've seen?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, He's like, trust me, He's like, once I just
saw that Jalen Williams was unstoppable. Well I figured they're
not going to come back from this stout the solitaire.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, I would like to see the uh, you know,
contrast of him doing solitaire with like what his commentary
was from the game, because his commentary is usually pretty
just so funny height surface.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Level, calling that shit multitasking. He's like, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
He's like, you see when he posts he's like, yeah,
y'all caught me multitasking during a time out.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's like, huh, I'm sorry, that's a task one.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Of my solitaire that's part of his job.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
They want to they just like to keep it.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
They it's uh, you know how when you play an instrument,
there's like kind of finger loosening drills and scales that
you're playing.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's what warm ups. Yeah, that's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
He's just getting loose.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
But Brian Windhorse, one of his co workers at ESPN,
dropped a video soon after, being like, and here's how
I watched the finals. I sit in a room without
anything on the walls, in side the arena, no windows, nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
To distract me. I watch it on TV.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I have, like, this is the feed of what you're
hearing in my left ear. I have a feed from
the Secret Service, who has eyes on what's going on
out there. I have these three guys behind me who
have a slack channel that's feeding me the sorts of
stats that you wish you've gotten. So just being like,
I couldn't be more locked in the idea of playing

(03:29):
solitaire is a joke to me. It is laughable to me.
So maybe a little bit of inner turmoil at ESPN
my loose theory. In addition to just like having been there,
Steven A. Smith hates sports.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's you know, and athletes everything about it he hates.
So a lot of.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
People don't know that Stephen A. Smith, you know, while
some know him for his role as an NBA analyst.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
On ESPN's First Take.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Also has a recurring role on the ABC soap opera
General Hospital. He plays the character Brick, a tech expert
and surveillance specialist who works for the mob.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's a soap character. I love that.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, technically surveillance who works for the mob, and his
name's Brick.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Brick is a key figure in the storyline involving Sonny Corinthos,
the mob boss. Also maybe why he recently said that
he has no choice but to consider a run for president.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Ah wow, yeah, yeah, no, No, we're good. We're good, thanks, Matles.
His hands are tied, and not just because they're being
occupied by the solitaire game he's playing. I always say
that's Stephen Nasmith to keep him tied. Man, We're good, Yeah,
we're good, bro, Do just play solitaire. Don't need it
don't don't need you. We don't need you. This thank

(04:54):
you for believing in yourself.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
He's been killing the solitaire, so his solitaire stats are
really strong, so I feel like his confidence is way up.
All right, So that's the big story. Obviously, there's also
some lesser news, such as that we're in World War three.
Donald Trump seems to be just being like, yeah, we
control the airspace over Iran and started, I mean these

(05:19):
United States of America, bitch, we're in here.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's very disconcerting for people who don't like unnecessary death.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, here we are. The rhetoric has changed.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
He's saying a matter of taste, miles, Yeah, he's using
he's saying we now. Before it was like, well if
Israel does blah blah blah, and he's like, well, we yeah,
can do something. He also was a veiled threat to
take out the supreme leader of Iran, so real big
regime change vibes. We're doing the same thing too, And
the lead up to the Iraq War.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And came back, it was like, for now, we're not
going to take out parentheses death exclamation point him. For now.
I was like, so, what did it mean before when
you were saying take out.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
This is like, this is what's so frustrating because you
don't know what the fuck this guy actually means. Ever,
because so much of his posts are based on how
his how harmed his ego is, so I don't know
if he's puffing his shit up because that big floppy
donkey dick of a parade was so bad that he's like, oh,
watch me g up on Iran now. But either way,

(06:20):
it's causing a lot of instability the Yet last night
he was like, people need to evacuate Tehran immediately caused
a mass exodus of a city where there are millions
of people who were like, is this like a bomb threat?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Is that why you're telling people to leave?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I assumed like something fucking terrible was about to you know,
Like I assumed that he was like, yeah, it's about you.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Better clear out. Well, they're they're about to drop some shit.
I mean again, this is all because of Benjamin Yet
and Yahoo trying to smoke bomb his way out of
people paying attention to what is happening in Gaza, but
also because I think he just knows the war helps
keep him in power.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's the logic all these people applied.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Trump also said that about a Barack Obama like fourteen
years ago. He's like, Wow, she's gonna try and start
a war and Iran because he's weak.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, that's why he will do it. That looks like
you now.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
But again, we've had all these in the lead up
to this, Like Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence,
even testified she's like, yeah, basically said Iran is not
building a nuclear weapon and supremely supreme leader Homiani has
not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in
two thousand and three. That's coming from Tulsi gaber okay,
And she even said we will continue to monitor very closely.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
If they reauthorize the program, but they have not.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
When Trump was asked about that yesterday, he said, I
don't care what she said. I don't care what she said.
You're director of intelligence. No, no, I don't he said,
I don't care what she said. I think they are
very close to having And this is where it's fucked
up now is because the White House is now going
with a semantic argument because no one has said Iran

(07:58):
has nuclear weapons. They have uranium, but they're saying they
haven't been using that to make weapons, like they've let
observers in. This is just purely based off the justifications
of Benjamin and Yahoo and now the United States. But
now this like semantic argument is being pushed around by
the leadership in the White House saying they were they're close,
They're this they were this close. That's why they had

(08:20):
to do something bad. They were this close. That is
not the same as they have it now, and it's
happening right, you know what I mean. Experts in gooning
would argue otherwise that those are the same thing, about
to have it and having it, Okay, like having one
thousand dollars saved towards buying a lambeau is not owning
a lambeau. I get the intent. Maybe you're trying to

(08:41):
go after there, but those are not even close to
being the same thing. And this is what's being used
to push us closer to war. And now Congress people
are being like, Okay, we're gonna have to introduce bills
to maybe you'll ignore that limit your ability to fucking
start wars. But come on, y'all, there's clearly there are
many loopholes around that, as we've seen throughout the storied
history of the United States.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
The WMD's lie.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
They're just like, can we actually go back, get and
revise like this time, They're not even like laying the groundwork.
There's just like retroactively trying to do a replace all
on the groundwork.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And the thing that they're doing too, is they're being like, well,
we have intelligence that Iran might attack US bases and
you're like, oh, are they or is that the justification
you need to bring more military infrastructure to the region,
because what the fuck are you trying to do now?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah? So yeah, it's very, very fucking frightening, and my god,
like just.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Completely sleepwalking into absolute global catastrophe is so fucking on
brand for this country.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's yeah, scary. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And at home, the one of the New York City
may eoral candidates and current New York City Comptroller was
arrested by ICE. Yeah, well, walking with a somebody that
ICE was trying to detain and being being like legally.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, you need to show judicial warrant.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, you need to show me a warrant. And they
took that personal. Yeah, and I took that personal and respect.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, this is yeah, it's all.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
But so what what is all of this about it
is about that parade.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's about that parade. The vibes it were.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Admittedly now where we're hearing that, he didn't let it.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
He was not impressed.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
He knew, he knew, he knew that was a big
wettl wet fart in front of it the fucking world.
You you thought you were about to pull up looking
like Kim Jong un and you came out looking like
Team Ou.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
North Korea with that fucking parade.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Basically, he said, it's all Pete Eggs's fault, which is great, fine.
Apparently Trump wanted a menacing display and all he got
was squeaky tanks and soldiers walking so casually you thought
they were in the opening of Saturday Night Fever.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is that a timely reference? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Satay Night Fever.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, just watch that, everybody.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
John Travolte. But this is a from Michael Wolfe, you know,
who's the biographer and has his little birds in the
White House.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Quote.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
He's accusing them of hamming it up, and by that
he seems to mean by that they were.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's not the word I will say. Yeah, they're like
being just sort of cordial.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
They're doing like a three stooges routine.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, they were having a good time, that they were waving,
that they were enjoying themselves and showing a convivial face.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Rather than a military face. Quote.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
He kind of reamed out Hegseth for this. Apparently there
was a phone call and he said to Hegseth.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
The tone was all wrong. Why was the tone wrong?
Who staged this? There was the tone problem? There was
the tone problem. So this guy is notoriously not the
most respected journalist in the world. So I was like
reading all taking all this with a grain of salt
until I saw the quote, which felt like it was

(11:59):
a real, a real quote from Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
The tone was all wrong? Why was the tone wrong?
Who staged this? There was the tone problem?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Because you know what happened.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Whoever's organizing it probably kept using that word in the
build up. And He's like, the tone is going to
be something that feels that that that obviously projects power
of the United States military. That also that aligns with
your powerful presence as the commander in chief. The tone
is going to be very very very fantastic. H Yeah,
tone problem, But yeah, I mean that's not the issue, Donald,

(12:30):
It's not the tone. It's that no one outside of
your like that, your circle of facelifted freaks and literal
nazis you power around with, actually give a fuck about
your ego. They're just again, they're just there to fucking
be near power.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
We'll make them care by throwing another one of these
next year, and it's gonna be so fucking sife.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
The other side of that is we're you know, cities
like Chicago, New York in LA are now getting increased
ice rates as pretty much a direct response to being like, oh,
you think you can turn out hundreds of thousands of people,
Let me fucking upset everyone and be even more horrific
than is necessary.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, he's in a bad mood. He's guys, the president
is in a bad mood. So don't even try it
right now.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Somebody asked him, like, if he was going to call
uh Governor Walls in the aftermath of the assassination of
you know, by somebody who is a big Trump supporter,
something that would be like, where this to happen in
a democratic presidency would derail the entire president. Oh my god,

(13:34):
if a Democrat supporter assassinated a.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
You know, a republican Republican. This is the thing.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
This is where like you really see how the media
is come. They're just they they've lost the plot, like
you know, conservative media, they just fucking start frothing at
the mouth. But now all these these networks because they're
afraid of the backlash from the president.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
There's Yeah, I guess there wasn't that like t ball game,
so I guess maybe that did happen or the softball
game where.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Like uh oh Steve Sale got shot.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, so I I guess maybe it did happen.
But was that during what administration? Was that during that
was during the Trump administration?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I think yeah, that was in twenty seventeen Trump won. Yeah,
but yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Asked if he had called Walls yet, Trump said, the
Democratic governor is slick and whacked out. And I'm not
calling him what. I don't really call him.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
He's slick. He appointed this guy to a position.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, No, Like that's funny because it was the governor
prior to Walls that technically appointed him. He just kind
of was like, yeah, we'll keep the same people there.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out.
I'm not calling him? Why would I call him so slick?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Is so weird? That's like that shows like he's so
afraid of him when he's like, yeah he's slick, you
don't slick and whacked out. He's gonna make me think
I'm all weird and shit.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Slick like a snake. Yeah, guy's never touched a snake before.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I could call him and say, Hi, how are you doing?
The guy doesn't have a clue how he's doing. What
do you mean this is an actual quote? Yeah, this
isn't Jack doing. Hm h Yeah, I can call him
and say hi, how are you doing? The guy doesn't
have a clue When I call him? He's a mess.
So you know, I could be nice and call him,
But why waste time?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Jesus?

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, way to be Yeah, you're a tough guy. Man,
I'm not gonna fight that guy because it's like a.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Waste of time.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Be a waste of time how much I beat him up?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Beat how I beat his ass? You're such a waste
of time to be so boring. Anyway, Actually, my.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Mom here, hurt my knuckles. Let's take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back and
we're back, and I hadn't been watching this series, but

(15:58):
HBO got a documentary series called The Mortician.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Are you up on it?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
No? But it's funny because I saw the headlines about
this and I was like, Oh, another HBO doc series
for me to watch, because it's about.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Put these motherfuckers in charge of like they have they
close cases. Okay, unlike the police.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Ladd Homicide Division, you're fired this Los Angeles funeral home
that it's just been exposed by HBO.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So basically this show is called The Mortician. It's about
David Sconce, who went to prison for mutilating corpses, holding
mass cremations, and hiring hitmen for rival morticians. There's it's
always the first move of like people who are We're
in these like small steaks like showdowns between like I'm
the biggest mortician in town, I'm the biggest tiger abuser

(16:48):
out there.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
And doesn't holding mass cremations seem euphemistic for just absolutely
desecrating a bunch of corpse in mass like you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
He held a mass event?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, okay, But so the final episode is making headlines
because it so scance is newly released from prison after
all the mass cremations, the group cremations. Yeah, yeah, you know,
after he got busted for that, And so they're interviewing him,
and he seemed to randomly bring up a murder he

(17:23):
may have committed while the filmmakers were reloading the camera.
He described someone pulling a gun on him at a
cemetery and implied that he tracked them down and killed them,
but didn't want to say it on camera because he,
I guess, didn't know how microphones were.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
How old is this motherfucker? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:41):
That is some boomerass logic. We're like, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna say this on camera, but I killed
a man.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Sorry, we're just reloading the camera over here, and they're
just like clearly doing like busy work with their hands.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Also, you know what reloading a camera with digital you
mean just you put a new SD card in or somethhit.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's what they must have met that it was like
a two hour process.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Sorry, we're reloading the camera.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Dan, what were you saying about the gruesome murder that
you committed in the cemetery here?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Afterwards?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
And Jesus, the guy was like, I don't want to
hear the filmmaker. So David Sconce says, maybe, all right.
So there was one night I had to go out
to the cemetery with Barbara. I get out and I
go to unlock the gate. Some kid jumps out of
the weeds and he's got a nickel plated right at
my head and he says, give me your walk, give
me your watch A roning Kyleen, director of photography. I'm sorry,

(18:31):
but we need to reload the camera, and then the filmmaker,
let's reload. Hang on one second. This is a great story, Scnce,
a true story. I thought I was gonna die. I
really did. I can tell you more of this, but
I can't tell you on camera. I can't tell you.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
All I can say.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
All I can say is do you think I found
that guy? It's one of the things I can't talk about.
The other thing I'll tell you about too, but can't
talk about that either. Really, there's three of them all together, Jesus.
Then he says, you got a promise not to tell
on me, and he says I don't want to know then,
and he says what the promise? He says, no, no,

(19:07):
if there's something and he's like, oh yeah, right, yeah,
then then I'm not interested in having that information. And
SCU says, Okay, it's never gonna come back, never going
to come back, can't come back.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Laughs.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Jesus Christ, bro white men are so fucking evil that it's.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Straight up invincible.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, it ain't coming back, baby, anyways, I'm invincible. Ha ha.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Now you won't tell with this microphone. This is the microphone.
So anyways, gross ass teachers, you're not gonna tell on me,
are you?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Bros? The fuck up? I don't want to hear this shit.
You just got to promise not to tell me.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Then I don't want to know what you're saying. What
you don't want the promise?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
What's wrong? You don't want to be implicated?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
And make a little promise to your friend.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I thought you were built to be an accessory to murder,
so you're not built like that. Okay, Okay, this with
Hulu then instead of HBO.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
All right, And finally, I mean this happened last week,
but just just an update a little.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
He's a good news for the old, tip for the elderly,
for the old heads.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Baseball's two somehow convinced Rick Moranis to unretire.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Holy fuck Sannis.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Back more than all back, more than ninety eight years old,
mel Brooks directing, I'm more just like what but then
even more than I'm like, Rick moranis is back? Oh
please please, because you only don't like random like he
did like one random thing a few years ago, right,
like reviving Like wasn't he doing like the Moulson guy

(20:39):
or something. Yeah, Like he pops up in like internet
videos here and there, but for the most part he's
been out YEA. Deadline is reporting that, in addition to
mel Brooks, who's going to reprise his role of Yogurt
the Yoda character, that the movie will feature Keiki Palmer,
Bill Pullman reprising his role from the original, and then

(21:04):
Rick moranis playing Dark Helmet will be back?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Will Pizza the Hut be there too?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Who played Pizza the Hut?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, just the character Pizza the Hut? I don't know. Yeah,
was was John Candy in it? Yeah? He was the dog?
He was like Chewbacca guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
The last time Morana started in a live action movie
was Honey We Shrunk Ourselves in nineteen ninety seven, and
it went straight to video, and he was like, that
is just about enough for me. I've had plenty.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's right, he's Barf.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
That's John Candy, bar Barf, dude, dark helmet, Princess Vespa, Yogurt,
lone Star, Barf, Pizza, the Hut, everything.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
My nine year old is gonna like this movie.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So Colonel Sanders, remember that this one guy's called Colonel Sanders.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Right. Those are some of the things that are trending
on this Tuesday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a
whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines.
We still can't get your flu shots. Don't do nothing
about white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Bye bye.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
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Speaker 1 (22:24):
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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