In this edition of Clear & Trending Danger, Jack and Miles discuss Kawhi Leonard's shady $28m endorsement deal, Florida ending vaccine requirements for children, the Burning Man homicide, the Dem's dumb dark money campaigns, TikTok's deadly "Door Kick" challenge and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Clear
and Trending Danger. M heardese of Nick semper Tyrannis. My
name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh oh please, oh please, wait, too much enthusiasm for me.
Oh oh god.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The sound of mister Belvidere sitting on his own balls.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh is that an episode?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is an anecdote? Very obscure. This is an anecdote
the Doug Benson told on his podcast back when they
were like five podcasts, about how he was when he
was younger. He went to a taping of mister Belvidere
and at one point mister Belvidere sat down and went, oh,
like what happened? And after the fact someone was like, yeah,
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he sat on his own box.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh my god, Miles, should we tell it?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
This is the episode we tell people is trending? Should
we tell the people is trending? Sure, so you could
go either way. It sounds like, and that's fine, but
I do think you're going to want to tell the
people about this one.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I could care less about the team struggling and the
team in question. Yes, yes, Los Angeles Clippers. Oh, I
always they always draw me in. Heading into the playoffs
last year, I was like, the Clippers might be actually
going to do it and take it to the They
were playing as well as anybody in the Western Conference. Yep.
(01:28):
And they lost in the first round.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And that take was so bad the NBA stopped mad Boost.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, they ended our show. Yeah, They're like, did you
hear this? Was that guys that the Rippers are a
joke organization that we only put out there like the
Washington Generals, the Los Angeles teams, so the good teams
have somebody to embarrass. That's not fair to the Clippers fans. However,
(01:57):
big big win for the podcast world as a publicatory.
A on a publicatory finds out this is a really
fun podcast. I've enjoyed his his work on the Bill
Belichick story where he just like he just like really
dug in. He was like the thing where his girlfriend
(02:18):
stopped that CBS News interview was like, we're not talking
about that from off camera was like very intriguing to him,
and he just like dug in and was like, oh
my god, the vibes behind the scenes in North Carolina
are terrible. He like, you know, dug into that ring
camera picture with Bill Belichick walking around shirtless like the
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morning after, you know, having a having a good time.
It would appear and he like found the house where
that was taken, like went there. But anyways, he's a
Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, and he dug into something that
he found strange, which was like Kawhi Leonard had it
(03:00):
into a twenty eight million dollar agreement with a tree
planting company, h which is not what I know him
for now? Is that, like wen I say, Kawhi Leonard,
is that the thing, like, you know, tree planters. I'm
thinking Johnny Appleseed, Kawhi Leonard, I'm thinking of great NBA
(03:22):
basketball player. I'm thinking injured Okay Miles, Yeah, can you
just be nice for a second before we franchise.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean, look, bro, Kawhi was about his money. He's
always He fucked the Lakers around too. Let's not forget
this is like a thing when he was like, yeah,
maybe I'll go out and basically did did what he
had to do to get the Clippers to be like
get me Paul George and trade away shake Alexander what
to make it happen and get it with MVP, get
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involved in a shady business dealing with a company started
by two Harvard guys, one as a Formerton speech writer
who's they're basically a broker for tree planting and carbon credits.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And Kawhi would he do that? Miles? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Why would he?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, Kawhy would he do something like that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I'll tell you so because Steve Balmer he's not
used to, you know, doing business like in collaboration with
he talks about like in this in the Pablotory podcast,
he plays his clip of Steve Bomber be like, dude
with my competition is like, you never talk to him.
You do what you got to do to win behind
the scenes. It's like and now like you you got
to talk to the other owners. It's very different for
me coming from Microsoft. He essentially avoided the salary cap
(04:35):
by telling Kawhi Leonard, you'll get twenty eight million dollars
on the side.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's just off the books completely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, so he was like, I'll pay you like this
is something that they used to do in like the
NC DOUBA to like pay players they like find some
booster at your local like John Kellapari coach.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
School shutout Tarcagon that booster.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, Tartaney, you know that guy be like, yeah, you're
gonna be my top salesperson at my car dealership this
year in the summers, in the summers. And then like
you know that person is pulling in three mil like off,
you know, a quietly. So anyways, it's wild. It's also
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just a great you know, sports, because it's under such
scrutiny and because like the fans from each team are
like paying attention, and like there's a ton of like
an inordinate amount of reporting on it. You know, you
can't get away with like there are all these rules
built in to make it so you can't go and
do some shit like this. Whereas like I don't think
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people fully understand that people who are billionaires, this is
how they get rich. They do crooked shit. They're getting
money under the table, they're paying somebody to find ways
to funnel money to them that is tax free. They're
just breaking the law over and over again. And you
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get like a big enough billionaire who like thinks he's
far enough above the law and he's gonna try some
shit like this, which I don't know, I mean, the reporting,
we'll still see he's claimed this is demonstrably false.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But yeah, it's hard when like Pablo Torri got like
all these financial documents from this company, Aspiration, that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Essentially back up everything.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's like, he's not going to come out and make
this claim as a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist if so many.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Facts aren't right there.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That made it painfully obvious and the timing of everything.
So it's also funny too, like the like Kawhi Leonard
set up like a company to receive the money from
this company, Aspiration and just named it KL two Aspire,
and you're like, dude, can do something a little because
the reason Pablo Torre also found out is like he
was just looking at the creditors like on their bankruptcy
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statement and is just connecting on these I was like,
what the fuck's Kawhi Leonard have to.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do with any of this?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, and suddenly you've found It was kind of brilliant
to unearth a scandal like this with your like it
felt like like like a sports behind the Bastards thing,
but was like was dropping a serious new head, like
just bombshell evidence against something where even his guests were like,
what the fuck am I even looking at? What is
this contract. Kawhi didn't have to do a fucking thing
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for this money. It sounds like he just got twenty
eight million.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Just at least it was something like at least he
was doing a no show job on something that nobody needs,
the planting of trees. Oh wait, sorry, that's exactly we
Oh Shitahi.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Come on, Kawhi, he's about his coins.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I've been rooting for Kuhi even though he took my
team's heart out of air chest and fucking punchot it
into a basket and it bounced ten times high off
the off the rim and then went in.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I root for him.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Because I always want to see people take basketball to
new heights, and he has been one of the best.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeahs, you know, I don't fall a WHI like, what
are you gonna do? This is this is how shit moves.
And it's really again, it's the people like Steve Balmer
that make this shit happen. It's these billionaires who are omar.
You know, he's like one of the top ten richest
people on the fucking planet. Yeah, you fuck around and
you're doing shit like this. Now, we'll see what the
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league does, like whether that means he's suspended or they
lose draft picks or something. But or maybe he finds
a way to extend a grease payment to the league
that this all goes away.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right? In bad news? Yeah, not just for the Clippers,
but for everyone, particularly people living in Florida. Florida has
announced their intent to end vaccine mandates for children. The
state surgeon general likened them to slavery and said every
last one of them is wrong. In drips with disdain
(08:54):
and slavery when speaking of you know, does.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He think just saying like vaccines are slave people?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh? Okay, people have a right to make their own decisions.
Who am I, as a government or anyone else to
tell you what you should put in your body?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know. How about as a doctor? You say what?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
But that fucking part, you idiot.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But this is a doctor who says things like the
next part of the statement, our body is a gift
from God. What you put in your body is because
of your relationship with your body and your God.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh God across the state of Florida are loving to
hear that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Oh it's about my Okay, Well I think I'm good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh yeah, dude, God wants me to get I just.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Need just need another fucking vein to emerge. God, fuck,
come out. This is so fucking grim. I mean they
barely just got a handle on that measles outbreak in
Texas like in the last month or so. And now
you're just saying, yeah, man, let it rip on the
just total regression of scientific knowledge and just go to yeah, yeah,
(09:55):
fuck it because we live in the era where just
being anti expertise is some kind of virtue.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And by that logic, because people have right to make
their own decisions, So is that babies are the babies
making the decision? Are we going to do like a
choose the ball or choose the sword type slippers, like
whether they whether the babies choose to be vaccinated and
if not, does this mean that parents are allowed to
just poison their babies anyways? Seems bad.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I mean, this is what you get too and elevating
people like RFK and normalizing like vaccine skepticism. It's just
this is like the natural suction of things.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah yeah, all.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Right, burning man, This burning man was a real doozy.
Miles makes a murder a murder did indeed appear to happen?
They a person was found. A body was found right
as the man was being burnt. They found a body
in a puddle of blood. And yeah, I don't, I
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don't know. It's just sounded, you know, the whole thing
sounded not good. Like from the start, it was like, ah,
fucking crazy dust storms and then rain and then and
then somebody had a baby by accident they didn't know
they were pregnant, had a baby in their RV that
was then airlifted to an ICU unit.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But it's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Orgy tent blew away, as we talked about before, and
then somebody was murdered, and now it like raises all
these questions of like who's in charge, and like, you know,
how how do you solve a murder that happened to
burning man. I don't think they've even released the name
of the person. They've identified it as a Russian national.
(11:39):
They did, and okay, because there was the way they
were reporting it before was like this Russian national has
been reported missing. Also there was a murder man he
was they connected those two things.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, Vadim Kroglov is his name, and apparently it was
people were like, I guess was doing a ton for
the festival and stuff, because a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Are like, he's the true hero of Burning Man.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, it's just again, man that I remember hearing about
Bernie Man when I was like fucking four years old
and like my dad's all spooky ass art friends like
would do that shit. And it's wild to see how
it's evolved into this other thing now, like just it's
it's odd. It's interesting, Like the second Silicon Valley people
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are like.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, we're doing that, We're doing that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Oh yeah, it gets bad comes a weird even like
a like truly like an odd place where you have
like artists and people who are there to actually engage
with the sense of community, and then you have people
who are actively destroying the earth and would want nothing
less than to do things in a communal way.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But yeah, what are the revelations that are hitting them
like while they're on drugs? You know, It's it seems
weird to me.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It could be something that like it's so welcoming and
it's a community that they're suddenly not just an evil
asshole who has a bunch of people that hate them,
that work for them, and they can just kind of
blend into it and everyone's like, hey, man, welcome, let's
just vibe to get I don't know, I have no idea,
but it's probably a lot of people doing drugs for
(13:08):
the first time and then they're just chasing the dragon
after that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The festival also got some attention because Nicole Shanahan, who
is a Silicone Valley attorney of course the vice presidential
running made of Our Kid Jr. Turned it into like
a Christian morality thing. She was like, it used to
be a devoted burner in a lengthy post on X
(13:34):
but said that she's now a new Christian and yes
there are constant orgies, Yes, drugs are consumed and staggering quantities,
and yeah, She's just like this is satanic now essentially.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh wow, I like, as you said, I went faithfully
from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I'm like, you're acting like you're some kind of og.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah. Those are like the years when it was like,
fucking Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I've been down with the Patriots since Tom Brady's fourth
Super Bowl exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay, yeah, there, then you must know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh your is funny. It's like that.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I feel like a lot of people point to that
beginning is sort of becoming the silicon value ification of
the festival or linked into that process.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But anyway, you were married to the former head of Google.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool cool.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
we're back. And we're back, folks.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
H Trump is still alive. There's an article I wired
about how Democrats are doing like a network of DNC
influencers where they're like, we'll pay you eight thousand dollars
a month. Oh shit, you don't you all making a
phone call. I think they reach out to you and
(15:02):
we are chorus. We are indulging you don't know, you know,
like they the contract stipulates, like you can't say that
you work for them. You can't like it's a it's
a fight club situations.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like a high school boy who kisses the girls, like
don't even see.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Chi, we don't even know each other, don't see anything.
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, that's wild. So don't mention we work together. Don't
even mention your being paid. Okay, this is very this
is very above board.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I love this go on very high dresque. And then
they also yeah, like just the people who had access
to the contracts were like, I feel like I wouldn't
be able to interview Zora and Mom Donnie if I
signed this contract because they tell you who and what
you can do. So yeah, some people didn't sign, but
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there are a bunch of people who did. And I
don't know, I haven't dug into like all the influencer accounts, but.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I mean it's I mean, it's a lot of people
who you'd expect, but more than that, like, this is
the version of the Democrats being really stupid with dark
money because they're using this all through, Like this is
a dark money group that they're using because that's the
way they can hide everything. Because this is something that
I dabbled in too when I worked in politics. As
(16:20):
you set up a five oh one C four and
that's something that just keeps you hidden from FEC reports,
so there's no paper trail and you don't have to
disclose who is funding this. And that's that's the beauty
of these kinds of dark money social welfare nonprofits is
that they can influence campaigns and do shit like this
without you knowing where the money is coming from at all.
(16:42):
And yeah, this group is no different and it's just
so funny that they're like trying to buy influence, but
they're not letting influencers do what they do. It's like
you can, you will say what we need you to
say exactly, and even if it sounds robotic from you,
fuck it because we think that's how we're going to
run in because like even like when you see how
with the right wing shit, obviously like these people get
(17:04):
talking points, but a lot of them are more like
we like to put out these like disruptor motherfuckers who
just say wild shit to normalize it, and we'll just
give you money to do that. But with the Democrats,
they're trying to pay people to like defend.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The status quo.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, and the suspose like not a cool status quo,
you know, it's kind of a shitty status quo.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So I'm like, what the fuck is this shit?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, the Republicans have, uh, you know, their people that
they're paying are racist, and white supremacy sells well in
the United States unfortunately, where the Democrats are like corporatists
who are and like institutionalists who are like everything's actually
cool here, like it I feel like everything I need
(17:49):
to know about the Democratic Party. I learned from that
like fashion week event for with like the Djenga tower
trump wise another version of that. And I mean, good
luck to you with this effort.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
But again I mean, like, you know, the smart money
would to be on well whatever, they're not going to
fucking abandon the status quo. Yeah, you just keep spending money, man,
And honestly, people should just take this money and then
like completely blow the contract up by talking about like
here's the.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Thing about socialism, and they're.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Like, what the fuck, don't fucking say that, and don't
talk about Gaza, and don't talk about Zorin and don't
talk about Bernie, and don't talk about the police, and
don't talk about medicine. I'm so curious, what, like how
how many third rail topics there are like in these contracts.
But one of them, I'm sure predictable, is an American
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girl doll themed pro DNC meme account. That's one of
the ones that they're Suzanne Lambert who called herself a
Regina George liberal. Oh I love that, Oh my god,
I love that. That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it's just all these people who are like the
content of our messaging can't be the problem. It's just
like how we're messaging it. It's a it's a messaging
problem that we're gonna get to the bottom of.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, I think.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Everybody's sees through your bullshit.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
They're for better or worse, Like they're they see this
pop problem with MAGA and they think it's gonna be
solved like through the old ways of doing things. And
the issue with like what gave, Like there's so much
MAGA momentum is like the full populism of it all.
But like and the and the Democrats can't do that
at all, Like that's just the thing that they are
(19:29):
unable to do.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So like they're trying to solve that issue.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
There's like really rigid way that doesn't actually speak to people,
and it's gonna they're just gonna be pissing again. Shout
out to chorus, because you've taken I'm not. I can't
imagine how much money these principles are walking away with
from fucking running this operation and saying this, like convincing
these huge money donors that this is how we're gonna
fucking rite the ship.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Because you're fucking not.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, it's not eight thousand dollars a month for the
people who are running the running this ship, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And finally, ding Dong Ditch shootings are a thing in
the United States. Unfortunately, over the weekend, and eleven year
old child And Houston was shot and killed while playing
ding Dong Ditch. I was I did enjoy playing this
when I was nine years old. I think I.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Think everyone does.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Everybody has done it at least once. Don't admit it,
admit you did. Maybe it's just.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And like you beats like us, inevitably someone trips and
falls because you're in a panic full sprint and like
you hurt yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I remember a kid did that real bad during one.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But you know, another reminder of how America prioritizes the
torniness for guns over the safety of children. But a
lot of people are defending the shooter and being like.
This is actually part of a TikTok trend called the
door kick Challenge, which involves kicking at doors to simulate
(20:57):
home invasions. Do they kick down their door and like
enter the person's house? No, they run away. Hmm, Like, oh,
I don't know, ding Dung ditch, except they kicked the
door instead of ring the doorbell. Yeah, and people are like, uh,
that's not the same thing. Actually, this this kid deserved
to get shot to death doing the door kick challenge.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, and it sounds like the guy who shot this
kid like had already like had the door kicked before
and was doing the thing, was like fool me twice
and was like waiting with a waiting for the thids
to come back the door.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So he had already premeditated this.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, that's premeditating. He had known. I'm not a legal expert,
but well he knew that they were kicking the door
and running away, and his solution to that was to
wait by the door with a gun to shoot them
before they could run away and do nothing to harm him. Yeah.
So Jesus Christ, but this is like actually not uncommon
(21:58):
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah, you hear about this all the time. Any
it's not even ding dong ditch.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It'll be like a black person asked for directions, or
like a kid was like missed his bus and someone
shot through the door or some shit.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there there's a guy who's a salesperson
for a solar company who yeah, I think was black
and shot by somebody who used a racial slur the
only reason he survived was because he was like holding
one of those like tablets that electric companies like make
you come out with and like the bullet hit that.
(22:30):
But yeah, I mean there's stories back to like two
thousand and three. In twenty fourteen, someone pulled a gun
on a girl scout that was going door to door
in Temecula.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
What a fucking nightmare country we live in. And it's like,
and it's so funny when you hear Trump be like
and I got to go to Chicago and like even
like the underpinnings of that is like guns, Brett, do
we have a gun problem?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean, obviously most.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
People in Chicago, but like when it's being helped by
black people.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That in the meat diet of everyone who lives in
constant fear under the threat of anyone.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Who's not in their immediate.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Family and outside of their four walls, is just it's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, the case in two thousand and three, this guy
killed a sixteen year old who's like ding dung ditching him.
The guy claimed he thought the kid was reaching for
a gun when he shot him in the back, and
because it's Florida, he like got off with you know,
not murder. Yeah, I think it's jail on the weekends
or something that he got weekend jail.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So I didn't even know as a thing.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean wait, all right, we do
taken away like that's football that's killing someone for ten
years and then it was like cut short at four
or something. But this is like gun ads, like if
if you're a gun person, like gun magazines, gun ads
like these are all they're all about, like trying to
(23:56):
create a die hard in the mind of the gun purchase.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh yeah, you have been John wickified. Yeah, that's exactly.
And you see videos all the.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Time of people like showing off their like handguns skills
and like these self defense ways, and you're like, what
are you doing, Like what world do you live in?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, but yeah, it's super Just like the NRA has
a Refused to be a Victim training seminar that instructs
people to never answer their doors to strangers and specifically
mentioned girl scouts as potential threats. Somehow we're told never
to answer our doors for a stranger. Even girl scouts
are not safe from scrutiny, they too could be decoys
(24:35):
and the promise of seasonal cookies is not worth the risk.
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
This is what's so just diabolical about seating this mentality
in people. It's always to be like you literally cannot
trust anyone. And name someone you think you can trust. Oh,
I don't know, girl scout, Nope, could be a decoy. Yeah,
and they're gonna use cookies to try and fucking kill you. Okay,
what about an elderly neighbor who work, who is looking
(24:59):
for help. They might be going through some kind of
crisis and have a gun on them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And have you ever seen the Americans like those people
were someone's neighbor.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
They were they were Russians who spoke English.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Good pies, Doug, Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, bad, bad, bad place,
bad organization. All Right, those are some of the things
that are trending on this Wednesday, September third. We are
back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, kind to yourself. Yep,
(25:30):
get your vaccines while you still can get your flu shots,
but you still can. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow by The.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Clear
and Trending Danger. M heardese of Nick semper Tyrannis. My
name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh oh please, oh please, wait, too much enthusiasm for me.
Oh oh god.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The sound of mister Belvidere sitting on his own balls.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh is that an episode?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is an anecdote? Very obscure. This is an anecdote
the Doug Benson told on his podcast back when they
were like five podcasts, about how he was when he
was younger. He went to a taping of mister Belvidere
and at one point mister Belvidere sat down and went, oh,
like what happened? And after the fact someone was like, yeah,
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he sat on his own box.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh my god, Miles, should we tell it?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
This is the episode we tell people is trending? Should
we tell the people is trending? Sure, so you could
go either way. It sounds like, and that's fine, but
I do think you're going to want to tell the
people about this one.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I could care less about the team struggling and the
team in question. Yes, yes, Los Angeles Clippers. Oh, I
always they always draw me in. Heading into the playoffs
last year, I was like, the Clippers might be actually
going to do it and take it to the They
were playing as well as anybody in the Western Conference. Yep.
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And they lost in the first round.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And that take was so bad the NBA stopped mad Boost.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, they ended our show. Yeah, They're like, did you
hear this? Was that guys that the Rippers are a
joke organization that we only put out there like the
Washington Generals, the Los Angeles teams, so the good teams
have somebody to embarrass. That's not fair to the Clippers fans. However,
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big big win for the podcast world as a publicatory.
A on a publicatory finds out this is a really
fun podcast. I've enjoyed his his work on the Bill
Belichick story where he just like he just like really
dug in. He was like the thing where his girlfriend
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stopped that CBS News interview was like, we're not talking
about that from off camera was like very intriguing to him,
and he just like dug in and was like, oh
my god, the vibes behind the scenes in North Carolina
are terrible. He like, you know, dug into that ring
camera picture with Bill Belichick walking around shirtless like the
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morning after, you know, having a having a good time.
It would appear and he like found the house where
that was taken, like went there. But anyways, he's a
Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, and he dug into something that
he found strange, which was like Kawhi Leonard had it
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into a twenty eight million dollar agreement with a tree
planting company, h which is not what I know him
for now? Is that, like wen I say, Kawhi Leonard,
is that the thing, like, you know, tree planters. I'm
thinking Johnny Appleseed, Kawhi Leonard, I'm thinking of great NBA
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basketball player. I'm thinking injured Okay Miles, Yeah, can you
just be nice for a second before we franchise.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean, look, bro, Kawhi was about his money. He's
always He fucked the Lakers around too. Let's not forget
this is like a thing when he was like, yeah,
maybe I'll go out and basically did did what he
had to do to get the Clippers to be like
get me Paul George and trade away shake Alexander what
to make it happen and get it with MVP, get
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involved in a shady business dealing with a company started
by two Harvard guys, one as a Formerton speech writer
who's they're basically a broker for tree planting and carbon credits.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And Kawhi would he do that? Miles? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Why would he?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, Kawhy would he do something like that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I'll tell you so because Steve Balmer he's not
used to, you know, doing business like in collaboration with
he talks about like in this in the Pablotory podcast,
he plays his clip of Steve Bomber be like, dude
with my competition is like, you never talk to him.
You do what you got to do to win behind
the scenes. It's like and now like you you got
to talk to the other owners. It's very different for
me coming from Microsoft. He essentially avoided the salary cap
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by telling Kawhi Leonard, you'll get twenty eight million dollars
on the side.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's just off the books completely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, so he was like, I'll pay you like this
is something that they used to do in like the
NC DOUBA to like pay players they like find some
booster at your local like John Kellapari coach.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
School shutout Tarcagon that booster.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, Tartaney, you know that guy be like, yeah, you're
gonna be my top salesperson at my car dealership this
year in the summers, in the summers. And then like
you know that person is pulling in three mil like off,
you know, a quietly. So anyways, it's wild. It's also
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just a great you know, sports, because it's under such
scrutiny and because like the fans from each team are
like paying attention, and like there's a ton of like
an inordinate amount of reporting on it. You know, you
can't get away with like there are all these rules
built in to make it so you can't go and
do some shit like this. Whereas like I don't think
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people fully understand that people who are billionaires, this is
how they get rich. They do crooked shit. They're getting
money under the table, they're paying somebody to find ways
to funnel money to them that is tax free. They're
just breaking the law over and over again. And you
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get like a big enough billionaire who like thinks he's
far enough above the law and he's gonna try some
shit like this, which I don't know, I mean, the reporting,
we'll still see he's claimed this is demonstrably false.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But yeah, it's hard when like Pablo Torri got like
all these financial documents from this company, Aspiration, that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Essentially back up everything.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's like, he's not going to come out and make
this claim as a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist if so many.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Facts aren't right there.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That made it painfully obvious and the timing of everything.
So it's also funny too, like the like Kawhi Leonard
set up like a company to receive the money from
this company, Aspiration and just named it KL two Aspire,
and you're like, dude, can do something a little because
the reason Pablo Torre also found out is like he
was just looking at the creditors like on their bankruptcy
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statement and is just connecting on these I was like,
what the fuck's Kawhi Leonard have to.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do with any of this?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, and suddenly you've found It was kind of brilliant
to unearth a scandal like this with your like it
felt like like like a sports behind the Bastards thing,
but was like was dropping a serious new head, like
just bombshell evidence against something where even his guests were like,
what the fuck am I even looking at? What is
this contract. Kawhi didn't have to do a fucking thing
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for this money. It sounds like he just got twenty
eight million.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Just at least it was something like at least he
was doing a no show job on something that nobody needs,
the planting of trees. Oh wait, sorry, that's exactly we
Oh Shitahi.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Come on, Kawhi, he's about his coins.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I've been rooting for Kuhi even though he took my
team's heart out of air chest and fucking punchot it
into a basket and it bounced ten times high off
the off the rim and then went in.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I root for him.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Because I always want to see people take basketball to
new heights, and he has been one of the best.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeahs, you know, I don't fall a WHI like, what
are you gonna do? This is this is how shit moves.
And it's really again, it's the people like Steve Balmer
that make this shit happen. It's these billionaires who are omar.
You know, he's like one of the top ten richest
people on the fucking planet. Yeah, you fuck around and
you're doing shit like this. Now, we'll see what the
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league does, like whether that means he's suspended or they
lose draft picks or something. But or maybe he finds
a way to extend a grease payment to the league
that this all goes away.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right? In bad news? Yeah, not just for the Clippers,
but for everyone, particularly people living in Florida. Florida has
announced their intent to end vaccine mandates for children. The
state surgeon general likened them to slavery and said every
last one of them is wrong. In drips with disdain
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and slavery when speaking of you know, does.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He think just saying like vaccines are slave people?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh? Okay, people have a right to make their own decisions.
Who am I, as a government or anyone else to
tell you what you should put in your body?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know. How about as a doctor? You say what?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
But that fucking part, you idiot.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But this is a doctor who says things like the
next part of the statement, our body is a gift
from God. What you put in your body is because
of your relationship with your body and your God.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh God across the state of Florida are loving to
hear that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Oh it's about my Okay, Well I think I'm good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh yeah, dude, God wants me to get I just.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Need just need another fucking vein to emerge. God, fuck,
come out. This is so fucking grim. I mean they
barely just got a handle on that measles outbreak in
Texas like in the last month or so. And now
you're just saying, yeah, man, let it rip on the
just total regression of scientific knowledge and just go to yeah, yeah,
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fuck it because we live in the era where just
being anti expertise is some kind of virtue.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And by that logic, because people have right to make
their own decisions, So is that babies are the babies
making the decision? Are we going to do like a
choose the ball or choose the sword type slippers, like
whether they whether the babies choose to be vaccinated and
if not, does this mean that parents are allowed to
just poison their babies anyways? Seems bad.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I mean, this is what you get too and elevating
people like RFK and normalizing like vaccine skepticism. It's just
this is like the natural suction of things.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah yeah, all.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Right, burning man, This burning man was a real doozy.
Miles makes a murder a murder did indeed appear to happen?
They a person was found. A body was found right
as the man was being burnt. They found a body
in a puddle of blood. And yeah, I don't, I
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don't know. It's just sounded, you know, the whole thing
sounded not good. Like from the start, it was like, ah,
fucking crazy dust storms and then rain and then and
then somebody had a baby by accident they didn't know
they were pregnant, had a baby in their RV that
was then airlifted to an ICU unit.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But it's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Orgy tent blew away, as we talked about before, and
then somebody was murdered, and now it like raises all
these questions of like who's in charge, and like, you know,
how how do you solve a murder that happened to
burning man. I don't think they've even released the name
of the person. They've identified it as a Russian national.
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They did, and okay, because there was the way they
were reporting it before was like this Russian national has
been reported missing. Also there was a murder man he
was they connected those two things.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, Vadim Kroglov is his name, and apparently it was
people were like, I guess was doing a ton for
the festival and stuff, because a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Are like, he's the true hero of Burning Man.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, it's just again, man that I remember hearing about
Bernie Man when I was like fucking four years old
and like my dad's all spooky ass art friends like
would do that shit. And it's wild to see how
it's evolved into this other thing now, like just it's
it's odd. It's interesting, Like the second Silicon Valley people
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are like.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, we're doing that, We're doing that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Oh yeah, it gets bad comes a weird even like
a like truly like an odd place where you have
like artists and people who are there to actually engage
with the sense of community, and then you have people
who are actively destroying the earth and would want nothing
less than to do things in a communal way.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But yeah, what are the revelations that are hitting them
like while they're on drugs? You know, It's it seems
weird to me.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It could be something that like it's so welcoming and
it's a community that they're suddenly not just an evil
asshole who has a bunch of people that hate them,
that work for them, and they can just kind of
blend into it and everyone's like, hey, man, welcome, let's
just vibe to get I don't know, I have no idea,
but it's probably a lot of people doing drugs for
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the first time and then they're just chasing the dragon
after that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The festival also got some attention because Nicole Shanahan, who
is a Silicone Valley attorney of course the vice presidential
running made of Our Kid Jr. Turned it into like
a Christian morality thing. She was like, it used to
be a devoted burner in a lengthy post on X
(13:34):
but said that she's now a new Christian and yes
there are constant orgies, Yes, drugs are consumed and staggering quantities,
and yeah, She's just like this is satanic now essentially.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh wow, I like, as you said, I went faithfully
from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I'm like, you're acting like you're some kind of og.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah. Those are like the years when it was like,
fucking Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I've been down with the Patriots since Tom Brady's fourth
Super Bowl exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay, yeah, there, then you must know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh your is funny. It's like that.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I feel like a lot of people point to that
beginning is sort of becoming the silicon value ification of
the festival or linked into that process.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But anyway, you were married to the former head of Google.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool cool.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
we're back. And we're back, folks.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
H Trump is still alive. There's an article I wired
about how Democrats are doing like a network of DNC
influencers where they're like, we'll pay you eight thousand dollars
a month. Oh shit, you don't you all making a
phone call. I think they reach out to you and
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we are chorus. We are indulging you don't know, you know,
like they the contract stipulates, like you can't say that
you work for them. You can't like it's a it's
a fight club situations.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like a high school boy who kisses the girls, like
don't even see.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Chi, we don't even know each other, don't see anything.
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, that's wild. So don't mention we work together. Don't
even mention your being paid. Okay, this is very this
is very above board.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I love this go on very high dresque. And then
they also yeah, like just the people who had access
to the contracts were like, I feel like I wouldn't
be able to interview Zora and Mom Donnie if I
signed this contract because they tell you who and what
you can do. So yeah, some people didn't sign, but
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there are a bunch of people who did. And I
don't know, I haven't dug into like all the influencer accounts, but.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I mean it's I mean, it's a lot of people
who you'd expect, but more than that, like, this is
the version of the Democrats being really stupid with dark
money because they're using this all through, Like this is
a dark money group that they're using because that's the
way they can hide everything. Because this is something that
I dabbled in too when I worked in politics. As
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you set up a five oh one C four and
that's something that just keeps you hidden from FEC reports,
so there's no paper trail and you don't have to
disclose who is funding this. And that's that's the beauty
of these kinds of dark money social welfare nonprofits is
that they can influence campaigns and do shit like this
without you knowing where the money is coming from at all.
(16:42):
And yeah, this group is no different and it's just
so funny that they're like trying to buy influence, but
they're not letting influencers do what they do. It's like
you can, you will say what we need you to
say exactly, and even if it sounds robotic from you,
fuck it because we think that's how we're going to
run in because like even like when you see how
with the right wing shit, obviously like these people get
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talking points, but a lot of them are more like
we like to put out these like disruptor motherfuckers who
just say wild shit to normalize it, and we'll just
give you money to do that. But with the Democrats,
they're trying to pay people to like defend.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The status quo.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, and the suspose like not a cool status quo,
you know, it's kind of a shitty status quo.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So I'm like, what the fuck is this shit?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, the Republicans have, uh, you know, their people that
they're paying are racist, and white supremacy sells well in
the United States unfortunately, where the Democrats are like corporatists
who are and like institutionalists who are like everything's actually
cool here, like it I feel like everything I need
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to know about the Democratic Party. I learned from that
like fashion week event for with like the Djenga tower
trump wise another version of that. And I mean, good
luck to you with this effort.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
But again I mean, like, you know, the smart money
would to be on well whatever, they're not going to
fucking abandon the status quo. Yeah, you just keep spending money, man,
And honestly, people should just take this money and then
like completely blow the contract up by talking about like
here's the.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Thing about socialism, and they're.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Like, what the fuck, don't fucking say that, and don't
talk about Gaza, and don't talk about Zorin and don't
talk about Bernie, and don't talk about the police, and
don't talk about medicine. I'm so curious, what, like how
how many third rail topics there are like in these contracts.
But one of them, I'm sure predictable, is an American
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girl doll themed pro DNC meme account. That's one of
the ones that they're Suzanne Lambert who called herself a
Regina George liberal. Oh I love that, Oh my god,
I love that. That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it's just all these people who are like the
content of our messaging can't be the problem. It's just
like how we're messaging it. It's a it's a messaging
problem that we're gonna get to the bottom of.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, I think.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Everybody's sees through your bullshit.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
They're for better or worse, Like they're they see this
pop problem with MAGA and they think it's gonna be
solved like through the old ways of doing things. And
the issue with like what gave, Like there's so much
MAGA momentum is like the full populism of it all.
But like and the and the Democrats can't do that
at all, Like that's just the thing that they are
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unable to do.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So like they're trying to solve that issue.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
There's like really rigid way that doesn't actually speak to people,
and it's gonna they're just gonna be pissing again. Shout
out to chorus, because you've taken I'm not. I can't
imagine how much money these principles are walking away with
from fucking running this operation and saying this, like convincing
these huge money donors that this is how we're gonna
fucking rite the ship.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Because you're fucking not.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, it's not eight thousand dollars a month for the
people who are running the running this ship, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And finally, ding Dong Ditch shootings are a thing in
the United States. Unfortunately, over the weekend, and eleven year
old child And Houston was shot and killed while playing
ding Dong Ditch. I was I did enjoy playing this
when I was nine years old. I think I.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Think everyone does.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Everybody has done it at least once. Don't admit it,
admit you did. Maybe it's just.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And like you beats like us, inevitably someone trips and
falls because you're in a panic full sprint and like
you hurt yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I remember a kid did that real bad during one.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But you know, another reminder of how America prioritizes the
torniness for guns over the safety of children. But a
lot of people are defending the shooter and being like.
This is actually part of a TikTok trend called the
door kick Challenge, which involves kicking at doors to simulate
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home invasions. Do they kick down their door and like
enter the person's house? No, they run away. Hmm, Like, oh,
I don't know, ding Dung ditch, except they kicked the
door instead of ring the doorbell. Yeah, and people are like, uh,
that's not the same thing. Actually, this this kid deserved
to get shot to death doing the door kick challenge.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, and it sounds like the guy who shot this
kid like had already like had the door kicked before
and was doing the thing, was like fool me twice
and was like waiting with a waiting for the thids
to come back the door.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So he had already premeditated this.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, that's premeditating. He had known. I'm not a legal expert,
but well he knew that they were kicking the door
and running away, and his solution to that was to
wait by the door with a gun to shoot them
before they could run away and do nothing to harm him. Yeah.
So Jesus Christ, but this is like actually not uncommon
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in the United States.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah, you hear about this all the time. Any
it's not even ding dong ditch.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It'll be like a black person asked for directions, or
like a kid was like missed his bus and someone
shot through the door or some shit.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there there's a guy who's a salesperson
for a solar company who yeah, I think was black
and shot by somebody who used a racial slur the
only reason he survived was because he was like holding
one of those like tablets that electric companies like make
you come out with and like the bullet hit that.
(22:30):
But yeah, I mean there's stories back to like two
thousand and three. In twenty fourteen, someone pulled a gun
on a girl scout that was going door to door
in Temecula.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
What a fucking nightmare country we live in. And it's like,
and it's so funny when you hear Trump be like
and I got to go to Chicago and like even
like the underpinnings of that is like guns, Brett, do
we have a gun problem?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean, obviously most.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
People in Chicago, but like when it's being helped by
black people.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That in the meat diet of everyone who lives in
constant fear under the threat of anyone.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Who's not in their immediate.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Family and outside of their four walls, is just it's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, the case in two thousand and three, this guy
killed a sixteen year old who's like ding dung ditching him.
The guy claimed he thought the kid was reaching for
a gun when he shot him in the back, and
because it's Florida, he like got off with you know,
not murder. Yeah, I think it's jail on the weekends
or something that he got weekend jail.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So I didn't even know as a thing.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean wait, all right, we do
taken away like that's football that's killing someone for ten
years and then it was like cut short at four
or something. But this is like gun ads, like if
if you're a gun person, like gun magazines, gun ads
like these are all they're all about, like trying to
(23:56):
create a die hard in the mind of the gun purchase.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh yeah, you have been John wickified. Yeah, that's exactly.
And you see videos all the.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Time of people like showing off their like handguns skills
and like these self defense ways, and you're like, what
are you doing, Like what world do you live in?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, but yeah, it's super Just like the NRA has
a Refused to be a Victim training seminar that instructs
people to never answer their doors to strangers and specifically
mentioned girl scouts as potential threats. Somehow we're told never
to answer our doors for a stranger. Even girl scouts
are not safe from scrutiny, they too could be decoys
(24:35):
and the promise of seasonal cookies is not worth the risk.
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
This is what's so just diabolical about seating this mentality
in people. It's always to be like you literally cannot
trust anyone. And name someone you think you can trust. Oh,
I don't know, girl scout, Nope, could be a decoy. Yeah,
and they're gonna use cookies to try and fucking kill you. Okay,
what about an elderly neighbor who work, who is looking
(24:59):
for help. They might be going through some kind of
crisis and have a gun on them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And have you ever seen the Americans like those people
were someone's neighbor.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
They were they were Russians who spoke English.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Good pies, Doug, Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, bad, bad, bad place,
bad organization. All Right, those are some of the things
that are trending on this Wednesday, September third. We are
back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, kind to yourself. Yep,
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get your vaccines while you still can get your flu shots,
but you still can. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow by The.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
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