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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The farting thing, though you do have to.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
You should fart when you making out, not.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
When you're making out. But like I've definitely I've led
with I have to, like being honest, like I do
have to fart. Do you mind, Like I'm gonna go
outside really quick, because that's honestly, it's a great it's
a great litmus test. Like I'm not going to pretend
like I don't fart, and I don't want you to
pretend like you don't fart either. Yeah, And if that
grosses you out.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
All good, but far in front of you, I'll leave
a stay outside for a couple of minutes to let
the smell away.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
For a way ass cheek to the side to really
help it get out.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah yeah, man, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Look, and maybe you come back to your your bedroom
at your mom's house and they're not there and they left,
you know, but it is war.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
You just like kind of like leave and then two
hours later you're like, I'm so sorry, I ship my
pants and.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Then well, hello the Internet, and welcome to season three,
forty six, episode four of The Dailyeitgeist, a production of
My Heart Radio. This is the podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, July eleventh,

(01:18):
and what what what treats does this day bring us?
Let's see, Thursday July eleventh is guess what? Literally seven eleventh,
so it's National seven eleven Day? Go get that free slurpy?
Did they still do? I think they still do?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Free?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's not that? Yeah, National Mohedo Day, All American Pet
Photo Day. What the fuck is that? It's like a
photo of a Boston terrier holding a basketball? I don't okay, sure,
National Blueberry Muffin Day, National Rainier Cherry Day, and National
Cheer Up the Lonely Day. Okay, well that's all for
you July eleventh, take care of that business. My name

(01:53):
is Miles Gray, aka the Lord of Lancersham the North
Hollywood Number one Son, the Showgun with No Gun, and
I am thrilled to be joined today by my guest
co host somebody Again, multi hypheness, comedians, writers, performers, improvisers, hosts, podcasters,
voiceover extraordin there please welcome Chicago's very own to the

(02:14):
microphone Jockey's.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
New I guess you wonderrn where the Pecheeist goes. It's
a deadly thing and it won't let go. And I
came back to let you know that I won't leave
you no more. Ah, what up, niggas have we doing?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh shit? The Bobby Called Well?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Got the Bobby Callwell? I went to I went to
a little restaurant last night, walked up and they was
playing that and I was just like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh my yead they want us to fuck in this restaurant.
When when did you find out Bobby Calledwell was not black?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
As an adult, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, as an adult,
it's one of my favorite things finding like, no black
person of our age knewho Bobby Cowell Wasn't he black?
So it was one of my favorite things, like seeing
black people find out that he was white? Right, Yeah, dude,
I was in my twenties for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I thought, like especially when the Tupac when Tupac sampled
it for Duke for Love, I was like, man, this,
I'm like this. I think that was the first time
I really was like listening to this like stuff, the
original material. And then I remember seeing a picture of
Bobby called him.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Like this is this must be a different Bobby called Well?
It must be a different Who does man appropriated. That
was him, Man, that was him. I'll tell you man,
white white, white people was in their bags in the
nineties with music. Man like yeah, like you know, Tears
for Fears, Like all the motherfuckers was in the yacht Rock.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know, I didn't know they were not black.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I mean I knew, I knew they was white. But
like we was listening to him though, like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Steely Dan, Kenny Loggins, like we was. I was like, yo, man,
Steely Dan bag.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Bro did the good thing of always having like the
best session musicians, especially the best drummers playing on those albums,
that really gave it that that feel to it, because yeah,
like you're not a legendary drummer, I think if you
haven't played on the Steely Dan album. But anyway, I digress. Jacques.
We have to welcome our guest today, one of our favorites. Again,
it's we've collected our favorites together to speak today. A

(04:20):
wonderful human being, a wonderful writer, a wonderful creator and
host of the podcast, the famous legendary podcast, Yo is
this Racist? Please welcome to the stage the man with
the grilling skills of a man of someone who works
at a turascaria. Okay, please welcome to the microphone. Andrew
t Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I as usual every time I show up, I got
a space on something. This week it was the AKA.
I guess Rice Tea would play Rice t that's the
very nineties level joke. But I feel like that's where.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And we were like, it's funny because the Asian guy
is doing a joke about asianists, so we can laugh
at that.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
That's the best I yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I was, oh my god, and well he.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Started singing too, and I was like, well, I'm not
going to try to top that, so I gotta like.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
To know.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I was like, yeah, we're off this, man, we're spectators now,
we're not participants for this AKA performance at all. Andrew,
when did you find out Bobby called Well was not black?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
About two minutes ago?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, I want people to know. Like when we were
talking about that, I saw like Andrews like fingers furiously
typing yeah, and I could tell he was looking up.
It was like this nigga's not black.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
He is man.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Shout out to all the what do they call it?
Blue eyed soul? Yeah, there's so many people. There's a
lot of people. I didn't know Slash was black until
three years ago. And the only reason I new was
because I saw a picture of him when he was
younger and I was like.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh, that's nigga hair, Like that's he got black hair,
Like that's black hair. I was like, wait what And
then I looked it up and was like, oh, Slash
is black. I had no idea, bro, no idea.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Part of a legendary, you know, tradition of biracial, black
and Jewish guitar players like Lenny Kravitz. Yeah, Slash, it's yo,
they're out here, out here. But I feel like I knew.
I knew Lenny was black from the beginning. Well yeah,
I mean yeah Lenny was. But I think with Slash,
because he looked like a fucking like comic book character
and the dude with the curly hair and the big
top hat smoking cigarettes. I don't know, I can't see

(06:34):
the face.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Fine, Well, so his his friend was pretty racist. So
you're like, I kind of hope he's so Blacky's he's
like Justin.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Justin just wrote the top comment on YouTube video for
what you Want to Do for Love? I'm a fifty
nine year old black man who's loved this song for
years and I'm just now learning this. I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Sometimes you just feel like you can hear it, you know,
you're like, oh, I know that, and it's just like
and then you see.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Me, like you look like if Tom Petty was like
a scarecrow. Seriously, he looks like the whitest man that. Yeah,
he looks like you know, white white and ye shot out.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
God bless you, God bless them all. You know, thank
you so much for your contributions to the culture. But anyway, Andrew,
we are going to get to know you a little
bit better. First, we're going to just touch in on
some of the stories we're going to talk about. Alert
George Clooney just bailed on Joe Biden. Hmm oh, so
we'll see what that means. Also, the anti abortion activists
in the on the right are just shocked that Trump

(07:43):
is not listening to them anymore. So we'll get into
that and the potential fallout or not at all of that.
And then it is Shark Week. We were talking about
how John Cena. We mentioned John Cena retiring. John Cena
is hosting Shark Week, and I didn't realize, like I
knew obviously that it's popular, but Shark Week is also
like a hot bed of bullshit and misinformation. It turns

(08:04):
out I had no idea because I stopped watching like
ninety fucking four or something. But we'll talk about that,
uh and those and just the controversies around some bogus
Shark Week shit. But before we get into that, well, first, Andrew,
before I even ask you something I was I was
just thinking of that Pecanya. That's why I referenced the
grilling skills of the because I was just thinking about that,

(08:25):
and I want to eat that again. And I was
gonna ask you where you bought that cut of me.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I let me see the We'll do that hot Mike. No, well, okay,
I will find it while we're talking. At some point.
I'm just gonna furst in and say the name of
a Carnie Soria in the middle of some conversation, probably
the Biden one. But I this was like, a there's
this Carnee Soria in Hollywood. I only really noticed it

(08:52):
because I was like driving from Echo Park to Paramount
to Strike. So it's somewhere between there on that or
maybe on Milks or something like that. Yeah, and and listen,
This is me projecting an awful lot, and I'm probably
gonna say something that is incorrect here, But what it
feels like.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
Is that this is a long time neighborhood Latino Carnisiria
that maybe has been taken over or they're handing the
reins to a millennial gen.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Z like kid. So basically it looks like sort of
like your standard been there for fifty years, Carneie Ciria.
You know, it's like the place with like the dustiest
bag of talkies you've ever seen. Yeah, but also they
have like a five wagu pa kanya. Oh, it's really
insane and hard to square.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
They know the neighborhood's changing, so they're just definite.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah. Yeah, So it's it does feel genuinely like it's
like still a neighborhood place. I don't know, and I'm
making there's.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
A the reason why they've been in business. Baby, they
know what the fucking people know?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, people won't they know, And it's just and when
I looked it up, this is a place that people
know about on Reddit. It's like one of the top
places me, so, so what the fuck do I know?
But I'm just walking in for the first time I
was like, this is this is It's like it's like
okay again, no, please don't cancel it, Please do cancel me.

(10:25):
It felt like the storm was like sort of being
gentrified from within, like I'm like, yeah, this is serving
like two audiences in a probably good way. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
There was like Salvadorian like trop Champine like soda, and
then next to is like kombucha, and you're like, oh, yeah,
ok so we're doing it all.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I probably the best way for that to change is like,
at least it stays in the same like business. Yeah,
McCall's or some white butcher moves in. But I don't
know anyway, but I did actually just get a fucking
Pekana sword.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
So oh you gotta come. Okay, We're okay, you're coming through.
We're doing that. But yeah, yeah, everybody where we're doing it.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I wasn't truly, I've been having so much red meat.
That's July that I've had.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So much red meat. I have to stop, Like I'm I'm.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Worried I've not had any when I'm good for you, Well,
it's not by choice. I have my wisdom teeth taken
out of my big ass age. Wow, and so you
are I've been able to eat yea meat really well?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, well, I think Andrew and I will welcome you
back to the meat eating scene. We will eat from
the sword of the blade of damn a cleat, damn
it all.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I've been eating this. All I've been eating is mashed
potatoes and puss.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Value Andrew, what is something from your search history that's
really about who you are, what you're into, aside from
Pekanya's damn this one?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I this one is gonna be good. So I was
at Costco yesterday and my impulse buy at Costco was
a sixteen dollars body pillow that is advertised.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
With oh yeah, okay, yeah, So are you a side sleeper? No?
Isn't it best for side sleeping?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
So here's the thing is I kind of was just like,
since since my dog has basically started sleeping in the bed,
I was like, I'll just like have like an extra thing.
I don't know, It's just one of those things where
I was like, for sixteen dollars, how could I not
buy this thing?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
That?

Speaker 8 (12:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I drove it home like sitting in my passenger seats
like that.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Lane HIV lane, Yeah, put on it?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Is it good?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Because I am I am a size sleeper and I
have like I'm very much a bye good betting benning. Yeah,
like I have a good mattress. I have a great mattress.
I have great pillows. I watch them all those things,
but I have a small pillow. That's all. That's all reliable.
I have a small pillow that if you take off
the pillow case, I wouldn't be eating pussy no more

(13:12):
because ladies, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
And that.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, that's the pillow I cuddle, you know. Yeah, And
so like I need I want to get a body
pillow because I am a size sleeper and I want,
but I'm always hesitant because I'm like, this ship is
probably gonna.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
I can't imagine this is a good one considered it
was sixty dollars. Yeah, but hey, I don't know so well.
So this is my was my search was tasteful body
pillow covers, because I was like, I can't just row dogs.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Wait wait, but in your mind they're all there, all
that's out there are just gaudy body pillow covers.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, in my mind, it's the it's only anime wife
who body? Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, you want to be husband's so.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I had to. Yeah. I was just like, what what
are my options here? And it's it is surprisingly robust like.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
That you defaulted that it was a life.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, I was just like, I don't know jack shit
about body pillows. I'm not sure how much use this
is the one who is going to get, but I'm happy
to own it. I was very happy to like, you
know how, when you're taking home your costco groceries, it's
already too much stuff. It was very satisfying to then
love the equivalent of essentially like a dead body like right,

(14:35):
you know it looked it looked mostly like a murder
scene or like a like a like a cleaner scene
in a movie. It looked like because it's fucking.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Huge, damn, well, do you know send us some flicks?
I want to see it. Yeah, yeah, Andrew, what's something
you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Underrated? Gross recipes that are way too much work?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Okay, So I did those recipes.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I had I had been saving. So so let's see
about like a fucking year ago, we got my friend
for her like as a kind of like a wedding
bachelorette gift, a harmone am Barrico from Spain, which I
don't remember the exact bill, but it was closer to

(15:23):
three figures or closer to four figures than three.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
My god, it was.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
It was a very expensive hawk and because I'm like,
I guess, because I just like like I kind of
was like, I guess I'm cheap ultimately, because as we
were carving up this harmone, you know, there's all the
fat on the rind, and I was just like a
maniac like saving all these pieces of harmone rhynde. Yeah,

(15:49):
that I was like, this shit was like I don't
even know, like probably like forty dollars a pound. This
fat is like one of the most expensive substances I've
ever had in my life. So I saved all of it,
and that it's been in my freezer for way too long.
I guess, you know, fat connoisseurs. Let me know how
I fucked up. But I was having a day where
I like really really did not want to do anymore writing,

(16:11):
and you guys hadn't called me to get on the podcast,
so instead.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I had to do something. Yeah, what I.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
What I did was over approximately like six hours, rendered out,
rendered out like eight hundred MILLI liters of hormone fat shit,
which is crazy. I mean, if anyone's had hormone, it's
like very very like funky, like a little bit like
like aged kind of, and it's it's hormone. Pigs are
like raised on acorns only so it has a kind

(16:41):
of like nutty flavor. Anyway, so I have like way
too much fat. So then what I did was I
got I don't know fucking six leaders of Costco Bourbon.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And I made fat washed it. I fat washed it
so much. Costco, you created a very harmone fat washed
bourbon costcoverb. Yeah, that's fine. I don't give a ship.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, well it's the cheapest and the most expensive.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't care. Look man, it's fat washed with one
thousand dollars fat that you buy. Okay, so you really
are having a party.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
It took me fucking forever. Yeah, I mean, come come through.
I did make burnt pineapple Manhattan's with the harmone fat washers.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh shit, that was fucking great. All right, So everybody,
we'll send out Andrews address. We're all gonna show up.
He's gonna feed washtails. Let's stop this podcast right now.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
You know what I know, I wish like I wish,
and I'm saying this as somebody who is a podcaster,
has hosted, has hosted on this very network. I wish
we had the balls to just be like, you know
what podcasts over and in the episode.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Sorry, y'all, life is just more important sometimes than these microphones, and.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
There'd be like, tweet out a picture of us, drink and.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Tweet up and tee it out a picture of us
like this is what we stopped the podcast for, and
nobody would be mad.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Or you leave the MIC's rolling the whole time. We
all leave with the MIC's rolling, we meet somewhere and
then we all come back and then just talk about
what happened. And it's a seven hour episode. Hello y'all. Yeah,
sure they'll be great for for ads. What's something you
think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Overrated is not doing stuff the white people way? As
as I think everyone on this podcast knows, you might
also notice I basically pick what I want to talk
about and could toward it.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, over under.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
But I think I think I feel like I know
you guys well enough to kind of know that given
the two options, if you have the option of doing
stuff the white people way or the correct way. We're
all typically choosing the correct way.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
What do we give me an example?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Here we'll do I'll do the one that is what
I've been doing, which is I started meditating. Huh, just
because because I'm a man who, as you know, leaders
of fallon. But I started meditating using one of those
like fucking very whack apps where a very condescending sounding

(19:11):
lady tells you what to do. And I was so
resistant to this because obviously it's it's.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Oh because you're like right, he's like this, ain't I
should be going to an ashram or some shit.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, I should get Because I remember when I was
a kid, I was like with my dad, I was like,
are you like he was kind of doing a meditating thing,
but also he's.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Just some dude.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
He doesn't know what you're talking about. And I was like, well,
how do you do it? And he was like, well,
you just meditating, and I was like, and he kind
of refused to He did parenting the Asian way, which
is the bad way, which is just pushing me off
a cliff and not telling me what. So I always
have been just like really resistant to it. And I
will just say, I understand that I'm probably doing it
incorrectly or something is wrong or there's a better way,

(19:56):
but my alternative was really not doing it at all. Yeah,
and this has definitely been better than not doing anything.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh yeah, So are you are you saying just so
so I have clarification? Are you saying that what is
overrated is doing things the right way or what's over
and insisting on like I insisted on doing it the
right way where we could be doing it the easy and.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Laser short, which is what white people do, right with
a product, with a product, just with the product.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, app using an app to appropriate your own ship.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
But see and but but for you, you're saying, now
that you found this app, you're now, look, it's a
gateway into meditation.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, but I don't think it will be or I
don't think it will be like I think. I mean,
it's it's a gateway to whatever this practice is. I
don't think it's gonna be like Oh, but then I
really researched and like found out where my dad learned.
You know, none of that right, right, right, I can
just tell So I'm just saying, I guess I say
it kind of boils down to like good enough, even

(21:02):
if good enough is kind of embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
There you go. Yeah, look, I think like anything, right,
if you're interested in something, get into it. However you
get into it, you know what I mean? Yeah, because
they're not.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Interested in I'm interested in doing shit that's gonna give
me a heart attime, like fucking boost steaks. What I
am realizing I need to do more of this other
shit and some the lowest bar version of that is
what it's.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Going to be. There you go, there you go. I
got some I've got some guided meditations I could put
you onto. You know what I mean? That help?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I yeah, send them over.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Is it the right way or is it the white way?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
It is the white people? Wait, baby, you know what
I mean. I'm not mentally equipped to still my mind
like some kind of ascetic ascetic monk or something. No,
that's not that's not me.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
So this is I'm guessing everyone who listens to this
podcast knows more about meditation than I do, and maybe
you guys do also. I just I just crossed the
line into being like I can like scratch whatever itch
I have maintaining, because I was just like trying to
sit there and be you know, solid and serene, and

(22:10):
I was just like, this is the itchiest I've ever
bet in my life.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And you like you like my ause supposed to be
meditating and I can't scratch myself right exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Truly, it was the most like torturis thing I've ever experienced,
just trying to sit there for like ten minutes without scratching,
and that mysteriously appeared at the second that the woman
was like, head, close your eyes, and I was just like, motherfucker,
I'm so itchy.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Right, it's like having a fartment you're making out or
something with like a new person.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, man, And just like you just willpower. My willpower
is willpower.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I get it. Well, look we will examine our own
willpower during this break and we will be right back
and we're back. What a time. We're just talking about
our willpower and we have none. So let's get into

(23:08):
the news. So Joe Biden, we were constantly seeing more
and more Democratic lawmakers come out and saying I think
he's just stepped down. Nancy Pelosi is being very coy
but like being like, you know, that's his decision, but
you know, he better make it happen. We'll drop out.
I don't know so. George Cooey, he just hosted a
huge fundraiser for Joe Biden a few weeks ago, and

(23:31):
he just penned an op ed for The New York
Times stating that Biden had won a lot of battles
over the years, but quote, the one battle he cannot
win is the fight against time. Shit. Okay. He goes
on to say, it was devastating to say it, but
the mister Biden I met at a fundraiser three weeks

(23:52):
ago was not the Joe big fucking deal Biden of
twenty ten. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of twenty twenty.
He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.
Our party leaders need to stop telling us that fifty
one people, fifty one million people didn't see what they
just saw. This is about age nothing more. We are
not going to win in November with this president. Yeah,

(24:14):
that's I think that's a big Hollywood Lib endorsement to lose.
For sure. I wonder what Jeffrey kats If Jeffrey Katz,
if Jeffrey Katzenberg bows out, then you know it's bad
because that's the man who's really the one running shit
in terms of Hollywood donations and things like that. Mean, meanwhile,
and this is the other thing too, like it is
wild to see, like the party leaders need to like

(24:37):
be real. It's so funny to see how all of
this has been. Like Joe Biden really needs to go.
I don't know what he's thinking. It's like, y'all were
enabling this thing, so why the fuck are you suddenly
acting like I don't know who said he wanted to
If you fucking knew, then fucking do something about it.
The discourse is completely shifted to like he needs to

(24:57):
get out of here. He doesn't know it's all good.
There's an entire party apparatus that enabled this. That is
also not having a reckoning that it absolutely should because
it's not. Also said this before, it's not just about
his age. It's what the party even stands for, what
the platform is. That's also not that's also not getting
people excited. So sure, a bunch of old people. It's
a bunch of old people in politics. Unfortunately that should

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not be there anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
And I think, you know the I think what we're
seeing is that the recognition that we should have known
all along that they realized that this is all performance, right,
It's all a performance. And when Joe Biden, they know,

(25:40):
they knew Joe Biden was old three years ago, two
years ago, last year, we all fucking could see it.
But but the hope was at the debate he could perform, right,
because it's a performance, right, it's performance art. That's what
politics and the presidential debate it has all become nowadays.

(26:01):
The funny thing that I I and I'm not here
to say whether he should drop out or not. I
have my thoughts. I truly don't give a shit. And
the reason I say I don't give a shit is because, like,
I think we're screwty the way.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
But like.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And and get I get both sides of why he
shouldn't why he should. You know, Personally, I'm like, yeah,
this motherfucker is old. Like if we could run a
better candidate out there, we should have been thinking about
that months ago. But I what I find curious is
everybody who's saying he should drop out he's too old,

(26:39):
are you also saying that you're not voting for him?
Because if you're not saying that, then shut up, because
like because like if because you're saying he's too so
who is the they you're talking about. I'm still gonna
vote for him, but they won't because he's too old.
Like what it seems like a counterproductive argument, where we

(27:00):
should be talking about the things like records and the
fact that he's supporting the genocide and the fact that
Trump is Trump and all these other things where we're
kind of just kind of it's almost like we're trying
to say.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like I said it before.
They just want to change the mannequin in the shop
window and not change fundamentally what is being sold to people,
because since January sixth, it's all just been like they're
gonna fucking kill us all and we don't know what
the fuck to do. That's not that doesn't that's not winning,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Nobody has said nobody and maybe somebody, but nobody that
I've heard on social media media whatever, has said. The
performance he just put out lets me know, I can't
vote for him because he's too old. What everybody is
saying is he should drop out because he's too old.
Nobody's saying they're not going to vote for him. Still,
so what are you really saying, like action are we saying.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Properly identifying what's deflating the base? Is it because he's
old or is it a myriad of all these other
things you just mentioned. Is it the is it the
support of Israel? Is it the fact lack of movement
on anything that fundamental like that even approaches something that
looks like equitable, like financial fiscal policy that helps working people, Like,
there's none of that.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
The problem is his base has always been people who
might vote for Trump, which is like, like his strategy
has always been let's go for like racists who are poor,
like is essentially what he's always gone after instead of
being like, you know, people, if every for instance, like

(28:29):
non white person voted, Democrats will win every time, Like,
it's just that they make sure to let us know
that they don't care about us. So we are not enthusiastic.
I mean, we're looking down in the situation where like
I feel like at some point I'm going to lose
my nerve and admit that I probably should do something

(28:50):
to help dovide and win. There's gonna be moments where
I'm like, like, I don't know, fucking phone banking or
canvassing and literally being like, I think this man is
a war criminal that you should vote for, and I
also vote for them.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, it's that's right, because truly, like if the if
the binary is the status quo or even getting even worse,
then yeah, I have to pick the status quo despite
my absolute distaste and hostility towards it. And that's what
and I think that's what makes people so frustrated, because
you want to feel like you have something you can

(29:24):
use your what your desires are to get a candidate
to appeal to you as leverage, to get them to
change what they're what they stand for, what their policies
are going to be. But when they're absolutely become so
rigid and be like no, this is it, bro, Like
what we're not doing shit, Bro, this is it, you
feel like, well, I don't want to feel like a
fucking fool for doing this again. And but again, when

(29:46):
it comes down to it, yeah, I don't want to
fucking sit here and watch everything completely change in a
flash if if you know, depending on what degree it
does change based on Project twenty twenty five, et cetera.
But yeah, it's a very interesting, not interesting it's this
is a very complex and emotionally frustrating position to be
in both you know, like I said, emotionally and philosophically.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
It's a lot easier because a month ago, like I think,
we all you know, we all know each other, and
so we all probably have an idea that a month ago,
whatever you say, what I'm saying, well, I'm saying, like
a month ago, the reasons that I was like, I

(30:27):
don't know if I can vote for this man is
because he is funding and supporting the genocide and all
these other things that are happening right. And the truth is,
the apathy for Joe Biden's candidacy was there amongst our side,
the progressives and left and people who are and like,
you know, everything that's going on. It was already there

(30:49):
a month ago. It's much easier to now say, oh,
the reason why we won't throw our support and the
reason we may lose this ticket, and a reason we
may lose this a lot is because Joe Biden is
old than it is to say the reason we may
lose this election is because we all support Israel. We
all support like all these things that nobody was actually

(31:11):
calling Joe Biden out on like George Cooney won calling
Joe Biden out for supporting the genocide, but he calling
them out for being old. Nigga, shut up, shout the
fuck up, right.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean yeah, that's why he lets his wife do
the talking while she leads investigations into Israeli war crimes.
He's like, well, look, I'm associated, I'm associated obviously, but like, meanwhile,
you know, Bernie Sanders, AOC. The rest of the squad,
they are calling for Biden like they're like, we're we're
sticking with Biden. They're just saying, maybe he should just
have a fucking Boulder platform to run that appeals to

(31:44):
working people. They saying that, you know that this is
a moment to quote lean in to a bolder economic
agenda and move further towards the working class. Okay that,
I mean, that's what most progressives I've been asking for
since the beginning. Well that happened. That's the thing is,
I'm not sure how realistic that is. She goes on
to say, if we can expand on healthcare, if we
can make sure that people's rents and mortgages are affordable,

(32:05):
if you can actually provide and chart out of future
that is more leaning into the needs of working people,
then I think we can chart a path to win.
Bernie Sanders also said a similar thing. Now this feels
partially pragmatic slash opportunistic, like for AOC like it sounds like,
you know, she's really trying to she's trying to be
hanging in the Democratic Party for a long time. And

(32:25):
also partly we know the establishment will blame progressives and
the left if when Joe Biden loses, so let's not
give them any fucking ammo right now, That's also part
of it. So it's just I yeah, well yes, it's
also like.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
At the end of the day, like I mean, I
tweeted a version of this, which is like, Joe Biden
has never run as if he wanted the enthusiasm of
people like.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Me, So I hope he's sure.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Like even before this fucking twenty twenty fucking every single
time he's done anything politically, he's made it very clear
he does not give a shit about someone like me. Yeah,
so I don't particularly give more or less of a shit.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
About him now, I guess right, it's just like he
is who he's been who he is the whole time.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
He's been who he is the whole time. Yeah, and
and and his platform has always been, well, since he's
been this president, see, has always been Trump bad, me better,
That's that's his platform.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, he's like you want to hear policy. I don't know. Look,
I don't want to talk about policy. But have you
seen Donald Trump? Yeah, Like we all and we've been
saying this frustratingly for the last two years about how
the Democrats are not selling anybody on a vision of anything.
They're merely just juxtaposing themselves with the right and saying
this is scarier than this. Right, Okay, so let's just

(33:50):
fucking shut up about everything and keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
And yeah, but what they don't want to admit is
if the Republican side ran literally anybody else slam dunk
win for them, it would be that it is God.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I can't remember who tweeted this, but this was amazing, Like,
like Joe Biden really is like taking lesser of two
evils to the very living. Yeah, like he's he's just
like he's like in like I'm not touching you levels
of technically being better than Trump.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Right yeah, yeah, like better yeah better? But yeah good,
And that's the thing is like also too, Like I
think a lot of voters are are not necessarily as
entrenched or observing everything that's happening in the government or
with foreign policy as you know, as like we might
be your listeners of the show. So a lot of
people's calculus is completely different, you know what I mean,

(34:48):
Like we're like, yo, we need to fucking hold the
line on making sure that like the fucking the fucking
famine stops in Gaza, that we actually have like maybe
we can do away with something like qualified immunity, maybe
we can do something about you know, this, that and
the other thing. But yeah, a lot of people's other calculus,
when they're just presented with, well, they're gonna do this
scary shit, then yeah, it's more obvious. And I think

(35:08):
that's what makes it so difficult to you know, like
sort of intellectually understand, yes, Biden is the better choice.
I also, I want to fucking feel like we're like
we're hurt that people's needs are fucking met. And I
think that's the other existential factor about all of this
that isn't being acknowledged, which is with some of the
more social like policies that you know, Bernie and the

(35:32):
squad and AOC are saying like maybe he should lean
into But I think at the end of the day,
I don't know how much that's going to really move
people because to most people it's just been presented as
it cannot be Trump and that's a full stop.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I mean anything else. If you are asking me, Jack Case, what,
here's your choices. Would you rather be shot at point
blank range with a sawed off shotgun or would you
rather be shot at point blank range with a pistol?
Uh huh, I would rather not be shot. But if
you're going to make shoot me with the pistol, because

(36:06):
with the solid all like you know, like that's the
that is the choices. And I know that's an extreme analogy.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
But if you said, what if I don't get shot,
They're like, oh, so you want to get shot with
a shotgun?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Right?

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Shotgunun No, I forget it, never mind shoot me with
a pistol.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
But like, let's swing the focus over to Donald Trump.
Because the RNC they just held their Platform Committee meeting.
So this is the place where delegates from across the
country come to meet and formally assemble an amend the
party's official platform. And in normal times, amendments are offered,
there are debates, and then they all come to the
conclusion that immigrants are bad and Jesus is the most handsome.

(36:47):
But these are not normal times.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Huh, he's the whitest god available.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Oh yeah, baby, Oh yeah, we know it. I mean
we've seen it, baby, So these are not normal times
as we know. So Trump has fully taken over the party.
And in twenty twenty, the RNC didn't even have the
committee meet. They were just like, we all believe in Trump,
so like, whatever he wants is the platform, and that's
just what they went with. Then he lost and a

(37:15):
lot of people were pissed. And it seems that this
year they're doing like they're having this committee meeting again
to make sure like make all the delegates feel all
warm and fuzzy inside as if they're needed. But it
ended there because apparently this year's platform talks went really
bad for the anti abortion activists on the committee because
Trump has decreed that the party's official stance for the

(37:36):
first time in decades is that they will oppose a
federal abortion ban and basically leave it to the states.
This is a clip from this like longtime Gail Ruzitska,
who is an RNC Platform Committee member from Utah. She
was interviewed right after this platform committee meeting had occurred

(37:57):
and asking like, so, what happened? Were you guys like,
do you guys get any words in? This was her
description of how it all went down.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
This never happened before. I guess I've done this several times.
There was no there was no committees. We always had
subcommittees where we can go in and read work on
a section of the platform. We can propose amendments, debate them,
add them. Always happens. I've done it many times. And
then would it usually take today and then tomorrow we

(38:24):
would come back and meet is a complete platform, and
sometimes there'll be more amendments. They didn't allow any amendments,
they didn't allow any discussion.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
They rolled us.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
They rolled us, got rolled up like a fresh pack.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Az Ah.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, that's what happens when Donald Trump controls everything. The
twenty sixteen party platform mentioned abortion thirty four times. The
twenty twenty four platform mentions it once, and this revelation
immediately caused a melt down in the evangelical Jesus Free
Trump supporter base, who's he's been concording since twenty fifteen,

(39:03):
because if you remember, on the record, Donald Trump was
like pro choice until he had to court the evangelical
vote in twenty fifteen going into twenty sixteen. And so
there's Chad Conley, who is the former chair of the
South Carolina GOP, and he's also like one of these
guys who like he has all these religious ties that
he's able to round up votes for Trump. He said, quote,

(39:25):
it is fair to say that over one thousand pastors
have emailed, texted, and called me about their disappointment over
where they saw the platform going. The words I'm hearing
are shocked, betrayed, trampled, depressed, deflated. Most pastors I know
don't want Biden and will still probably vote for Trump,
but this hurts the energy needed for those folks to

(39:45):
do the things it takes to help elect a president. Wow,
we're on the same vote.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
What I will just say though, is these guys are
Trump's version of Biden's like you know, fists or like
you know, people who don't want a center right government,
Except he delivered for these fucking people, they actually got
Roby Wade overturned. He gave them straight up what they
wanted and now they just want.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
More because in the platform, I'm pretty sure when they
talk about that decision, he was like the dobb's doing.
He's like it had said, it happened quote because of us.
So that's like how he's trying to basically be like,
look y'all got your shit, you know what I mean,
like keep it moving like and because also it's clear Trump, Oh,
another person, Tony Perkins from the absolutely heinous Family Research

(40:35):
Council action said, quote the right to life transcends other
political debates and the interests of any in all political
parties and candidates. This is a group that the SBLC
has labeled like a full on hate group, but anyway
that the people are angry. And again it's clear Trump
has seen, like many of us, that the anti abortion
thing has only led to NonStop l's like when it

(40:58):
comes to elections, not you're just not fucking winning on that.
And that's definitely fueling the pivot. But I also see
this like as another power consolidation move because Trump is
fully taking over the party. Typically, the GOP had to
bow to the evangelicals in terms of like figuring out
like what we got we need them on board. So
whatever they want, we also have to factor in as

(41:20):
our this is part of our winning coalition. So I
think to doing this and icing them out lessens their influence,
and you know, I think that's exactly what he wants
to see.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Well, obviously they're not voting for Toe Biden, so this
sounds like a lot of complaining.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
And also I think it's weird that they ever bout
because it just still is like the fuck you're gonna
do about it?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, well, I mean that's like where you know, in
the late seventies and eighties, they're like, man, we we
we're losing, bro. So like, I think we can get
these freaks activated if we just start saying this shit
and then they and then they caught the dog, caught
the car, and the jig is up.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Wait, that's another fucking obvious reason for Joe Biden. For
the subside, it's like, hey, maybe we should get a
presidential candidate on the Democratics Act who will say the
right to abortion is important or like I will restore it,
like right, this motherfucker like he still would just wants
the worst white people on earth. He thinks he could

(42:19):
peel off three percent of them and the election that way.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
But I think also to this, whether this is intentional
or not, these these are the kinds of optics you
want to try and seem more reasonable, like you want
the SPLC designated hate group to be like, I'm outraged
by what Trump is doing, and now suddenly it's like,
oh shit, well maybe yeah, maybe he does have a mind,

(42:43):
maybe he is reasonable.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
He is not.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
But again, this is the kind of shit that if
you're getting into the real like strategy of like how
things are perceived, this is probably seen as a win
on some level because yeah, yeah, you want to make
it seem like, yeah, the hate groups fucking hate me man,
because I'm not well.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
This is this is where this is the one time
strategically like Trump being a liar and I paid off
for him, was yeah, he lied to those people. He
doesn't give a ship one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
About abortion right now. I honestly I was fully expecting
him to. I didn't watch the full debate. I only
saw clips, so I don't know if this was even
said or not, or if they even brought up like
the Middle East or anything like that. But I was
fully expecting Trump to be on some like and you
know what actually right, you know, free Palestine, just on

(43:33):
some bullshits, just to be like.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Miriam Addelson, money would go poof.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
He did worse worse than that.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah totally.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
That was finally way an example of doing except the
white people way wrong, which is I was hanging out
with one of my relatives white fiances or like, we're
hanging out in a family thing, and this motherfucker insisted
on playing clips from the debate while I was happening.
I was like, I don't want to hear any of this, right,
this is fucking Oh. You gotta gotta be informed. Why

(44:04):
to make a decision. It's like, in to me, the
world where this debate could swing anything is.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
What the fuck kind of person is crazy town?

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Like how dumb do you have to be to be
like I got it something in the air.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I don't know, Yeah, That's what I'm saying, Like because
I'm like, the poles really didn't move out, like in
terms of who's going to vote for who, the polls
only moved and people be like, yeah, he's fucking old.
Yeahh but guess what I'm You've I've already been thoroughly
freaked out about a Trump presidency that like, yeah, whatever, man,
just can we fucking is it gonna not? Is it
gonna be or is it gonna stop Trump or not? Yeah,

(44:40):
that's every guy like.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Game of Throne style, just the president regent while while
the President recuperates it his golden throne, we send out
the young Prince to speak in instead. That's why punter Biden.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take another break. We'll come
back and and we're gonna check in with Shark Week
and the lies, the many lies of Shark Week after
this and we're back. As we mentioned earlier this week,

(45:19):
it is Shark Week right now. The annual event is
being hosted by none other than John Cena.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
John Chayna.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I always have to I feel like I always have
to do the sound.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
The last time is now, baby, the last time now?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Question for you, Jackie's, because I know you're a big
wrestling fan. Yeah, what are you comparing The Rock to
John Cena in terms of like acting?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Oh, man, I had this, I had this full conversation
with someone recently. Yeah, it was like the oh, the Batista,
the Rock that John Cena. You know, it's very popular
to hate the Rock right now. So I will say
and even hate it. I'm just saying, who's no, who's
not you. I'm just saying, like the conversation as far
as acting goes, or like wrestling wrestler acting acting or

(46:06):
acting like the career. So here's the thing, here's the
thing with Johnson, uh, with with with the Rock. I
think a lot of people forget this part and and
with and I'm gonna this is my answer. A lot
of people forget this part. But the Rock has been
acting for twenty three years. That's a long fucking career.
Whereas and I'm talking in Hollywood, not w WE movies,

(46:28):
but in Hollywood, right and the Rock was very much
kind of like a Will Smith.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And what I mean by that was is that The
Rock being really the first true crossover actor. I know,
there's the Hulk, Hogan's to Roddy Roddy Piper's and all
those people, but the true first actor who literally crossed
over and was like, you know what, I'm not even
the Rock no more. Call me by my real fucking name.

(46:53):
Like he was calculated in that. And so the Rock
breaking down all those doors and barriers and John Cena
has talked about this himself, like he his calculation was,
I am going to be a movie star, right, Whereas
John Cena and Bautista, who's a fantastic actor, get to

(47:14):
take a little bit more risks because there is a
road for them to drive down, right, so if you are.
And so the Rock doesn't take risks because he doesn't
have to, nor did he want to. And I think
he's starting to after he had a couple of failures
and his ego is hit. But John Cena has been
able to take more risks, Bautista has been able to
take more artistic risks because nobody was looking at Bautista

(47:35):
to be right, like nobody was doing that for him.
So I think the best actor, So the best actor
of all three of those, as I would say, from
what we've seen, Bautista has the best artistic repertoire. And
then between John Cena and The Rock, I think like
John Cena right now is taking more funt risks than

(47:59):
The Rock is. But like I think, if you are
going to ask me who is the best out of
all three of them, I'm going to say it's the
person that literally was able to leave wrestling and completely
leave it. Behind him and open the doors for like
everybody else like that. It takes talent to do that.

(48:20):
So he's not untalented.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
He's just no, he's I want to see I want
to see him do something a little like more like
how senated blockers like, I want to see the Rock
do something.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
He has go back to his two thousand movies. Go
back to Paint and Gain, go back to like it's.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Just what we were still kind of like the Rock,
you know, he still had that like that, not Paint
and Gain energy. Wait, the one that when they went
to the Amazon and.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Ship paint and game. No, that's the that's the Mark wahlbergate,
Like the one where they were like the body it's
Michael by Michael Bay.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, this one, this one is he's funny
in it.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
No, he's just not. It's not funny at all. He's
a cracket right right right right, not cracking, but he's
on drugs and like he hasn't really he took some
really big risks in the two thousands. Yeah, and then
but once Fast five came out and he was like,
oh I can be steroided up and still make a
lot of money. He was like bet movie star right right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Think he is actually riding the way perfectly because he's
still got it enough and has built up a good
He's managed to make money while building up bad will
to like whatever. Whenever he chooses to do like, you know,
like a fucking I don't know, Benny Safty movie or whatever,

(49:42):
it's gonna be like, people are gonna lose their fucking mind.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I mean, he's in that twenty four movie right now
that that's filming, and like the Johnsons, the Batista is great,
but like, let the Rock come with one movie when
motherfuckers are like, oh goddamn.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, one where he cries and or is hurt, yeah,
or something bad happens to him, and.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
He does have a victor access it doesn't he have
a no lose clause in his contract? And I'm almost
sure he does, but I would probably say the Rock,
being a smart person after Black Adam and all the
ship that like that, he's probably gonna like get rid
of clause.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I mean that that wasn't l that was like that
whatever the contract said that he did lose. Well, anyway,
this isn't about John Cena really, but it is about
the thing he's hosting Sharply. It's just something I've always
been thinking on. When I was talking about the other day,
I was just really like, Oh, I'm just curious from
like especially someone from like Jackies, who.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Might be the human being I know that knows most
about the question you just asked.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, no, exactly exactly, And I just wanted to posit
that because it's something I'm always like, I'm always surprised
at seeing like the roles these other wrestlers take, and
they suddenly like, oh, should look.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
At you with some little taking bad roles, And He's like,
his movies are way more fun to watch, right.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I did see a movie recently where he played like
a retired mercenary who's like trying to get his family bad.
But I watched the whole thing because I was on
an airplane. So Shark Week back to Shark Week it is.
I didn't realize that. I know it's a big thing,
but I didn't realize how it is like massive for
the Discovery Channel. Dating back to eighty eight, it is

(51:26):
the longest running cable TV programming event in history. When
it first aired, it basically doubled Discovery Channel's ratings and
they're like, oh shit, we got something here, and it's
still fucking popular, and last year over twenty two million
viewers tuned into Shark Week. But again, a lot of
like shark experts are like, the thing about Shark Week here,

(51:49):
let's really get into it. A lot of like experts
are like, it's filled with misinformation and glorifies what they
call wildlife harassment. And also they say quote rarely features
women scientists, are scientists of color in leading roles. It's
always like some white guy who like and a lot
of like other shark or researchers like even have groups
like sort of addressed like the iniquities and how like

(52:11):
people who work with sharks are being represented in media.
But they also have a history about like just putting
on like total bullshit and then being defensive about it.
So in twenty thirteen, they aired a show called Megalodon,
The Monster Shark Lives, all about the extinct shark that
fought Jason Stath of that well a couple of times.
I guess I bro I fuck with them those movies.

(52:35):
They're terrible, but I love a big ass shark. I
don't know what it is. Fuckinged every time I'm like
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
On a skewer with a little tatziki.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, delicious women, Oh of course, of course. I mean,
for we're one Mediterranean must have lemon, it must have
olive oil, parsley recono. Anyway, so this like Megalodon, the
Monster Shark Lives, it didn't just like skew the facts.
It's basically a fucking mockumentary featuring like they had actors
playing scientists, they have photoshop pictures, faked digital video, and

(53:10):
there was a brief disclaimer. But the fact that this
like work of fiction presented as if it were a
genuine documentary was basically was understandably very confusing for viewers
because like, at no point really outside of this brief
disclaimer in like was in this documentary is it mentioned
that it was fictional ever at all? Like you're just

(53:31):
like well, I mean like if you saw the fine
print real quick then yeah. And that had a lot
of people being like, oh shit, what the fuck the
fucking megalodon lives? And that I think that was the intention,
because the Discovery Channel then ran a poll asking viewers
if they believe the megalodon was still alive even though
it is very much extinct, and seventy three percent of

(53:52):
the people said yes, it is alive for sure, and
others said no, the scientists are right. Was the we
your two options basically, and so when people called this out,
the Discovery Channel responded by gaslighting everybody. Even though like
the scientific community again is certain that these sharks are extinct,
the network claimed, well, quote, there's still debate and asked,

(54:18):
who really knows what's happening with the megalodon? Like this
is some QAnon shit.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Now, if there was a debate, why would you be
asking me Therefore, no one knows.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yeah, no that I'm saying. And also, but how can
we really know? How can you prove that something doesn't exist?
It's very hard. But then the next year, Discovery doubled
down on this megalodon thing and they re aired the
previous show and then they added a whole new fucking
fake documentary and they were like people were like, this
is the same thing you're doing. And then in twenty

(54:51):
eighteen they said we will quote promise to be more
quote science and research focused. In twenty eighteen, they put
out a a special that was fact checking the twenty
thirteen megalodon mockumentary you made.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
That's so funny, I mean really wild Tim Robinson hot
dog sketch. It's like, right, oh, who could have done
such a thing?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Who could have done this? I have no idea. We'll
never know. We'll never know. And then like like last
year they aired Cocaine Sharks. I can't believe I fucking
missed Cocaine Sharks because they were trying to ride the
Cocaine bear Wave, where marine biologists like attempted to simulate
like what it would be like if sharks basically were
like scarfing down fucking bales of cocaine and lost their shit,

(55:45):
and it was like very stupid. They're like, we're gonna
observe any like weird, like we're gonna go to this
place where drug smugglers have used to traffic cocaine and
see if we observe anything, and they kind of like
didn't see anything. Then they put like white bundles like
like in the water with like a fake swan to
be like maybe they'll eat it, and they didn't seem

(56:07):
like they were that into it at all, and.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I shopped that at this point, given their ethics, they
are not just actually giving a shark cocaine.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Right, and just being like, well, this is the thing, Andrew,
because they're probably smart enough to know that, like researchers
have said, cocaine would act more as a quote anesthetic
than a stimulant with shark. And then I was like real,
like it's a quote A few studies done with cocaine
shows that it affects fish really differently than it affects humans.

(56:36):
Who's doing this fucking research?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Like, hey, get his some cocaine. Let's see what.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yeah? Like here, dude, I dropped my I dropped an
eight ball into a fish tank. Man, I'm trying to
get my fuck. Can I Can I get reimbursed for that?
I can kind of make a study out of it.
It looked like they were chilled out than like freaking out.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I would have been a seed in Scarface where he's
like sprinkling little shit over oh yeah, over an aquarium.

Speaker 8 (56:59):
I know.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I know there's gonna be some animal lover, and I'm
an animal lover as well, But there's gonna be an
animal lover who's not going to like what I'm gonna say.
But if the worst thing I can do for one
day is give cocaine to a bunch of fish, I
would do that shit in the heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Yes, that seems like the thing is, there's all the
research has been done, jackies. They're not going to suddenly
be doing TikTok dances and to invest in the NFTs.
They just thought, all right, well bear give it to
the bears, baby.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
They know how to, They know how to, they know
how to fun up.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Just by the way reading between the lions and speculating
about not to get into more Hollywood bullshit. This is
how we started to start the segment. But the fact
that this is like so Gangbusters ratings wise, and it's
discovery if you know, it's like that meme of like
the little fucking you know that the domino is getting

(57:52):
progressively bigger. But this is why, almost certainly why fucking
David Zaslav.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Runs Warner Brothers and HP oh now, and.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
If you're curious why movies feel like they're terrible, it's
because the man who who oversaw Shark Week and these
weirdo lies. Also, I will just say the fact that
this many people watch this tells me not enough people
have training with weed, because clearly, like, do something more
creative with your hate weirdo watches than Shark Week. This

(58:24):
is so preposterously lazy, get high and do something else.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I truly, I truly have never understood Shark Week. And
I know it's big, and I know I feel like
I'm the I feel like I'm in the minority on this,
and I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I'm
not saying like no, but I get why it's big.
I just I've never like partaken in like the excitement
of it personally, and it surprises me that it's so big.

(58:50):
I always forget there's coming up until it's here. Yeah,
and then I'm like, man, people really fuck with Shark Week,
like and I always say maybe this year, I'll give
it the chance, and then like nothing compels me to
do it.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
But yeah, this is like I.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Think it's like that's what she said. People who love it.
It's like weeks coming up right right, man, like have
your fun.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
But maybe, Yeah, it feels almost like reflexive, like it's
a habit where it's like, oh, Shark Week, I just
put it on half the time. I'm just so checked out.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Oh that's so.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
It's so this is like these are some of the
specials out there airing Belly of the Beast, Bigger and
Bloodier Jaws Versus Leviathan, mak O Zilla, Sydney Harbor, Shark Invasion,
Big Shark Energy, Shark Frenzy, Mating Games, Great White serial Killers,
See of Blood, Deadliest Bite. Half of these things just

(59:39):
sound like the same show, but you're just giving it
a different title. That's six thousand Pounds, Shark Monster, Hot, Hammerheads,
Species X.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
This does explain why this motherfucker thought AI could write
original television.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Yeah, because this is all There's also one called The
Real Sharkano sharka. Yeah, what I mean, the Real Shark?
Was there a Sharkane?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Never never. That's what Shark Week should. They should lean
into Shark Week being entertainment. Make give us shark movies,
give us like shark TV shows do like documentaries about
Jael's and I know they probably do that, but like
the actual like learning about sharks and all this type
of thing, It's like, how much more can we fucking learn?
Like they not changing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
No, now, you're just like it's basically watch Sharks ship
up week. Yeah, you know, and that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
And then if that's what you're gonna do, lean into
that ship. I want to like do the reality show
where you put a motherfucker who can't swim in the
ocean and be like, try to get away from the shark.
Like I watched that shy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Could johnsona knock out a shark?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Bro just like tie the shark up and let Johnson
to take his hardest fucking punch and attitude adjust them
and seeing what the shark would do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Like watch that ship speculating about giving sharks cocaine, you
might as well just do like a fucking hell in
a cell match with a show ark.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Seriously, give a shark a pound a weed and see
what it does.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Or how much genetic engineering would it takes to make
a street shark for real?

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Oh yeah, and it wears cut off geene shorts. Yeah,
and a skateboard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Make a show with like like what do you call it?
When like things that aren't usually like human like act
as human amphobic and what's that word? Give me some
antipomorphic sharks and some antipomorphic jets and like let's see
them fight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I want to see west Side, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Seriously, I want to see some dope ship like dancing,
can dance?

Speaker 7 (01:01:39):
Give me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Give me a Shark that's up here with the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Sharks singer you better hit that choreo great White you
better that five six, seven eight. Well, Andrew T Jackie,
thank you so much for joining me today. Andrew, where
do the people find you? Follow you? Listen to you?
And what is a tweet or other work of media
that you're enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Yeah? Why do the podcast? You know it's as racist.
And we have a premium section called Suboptimal Pods. And
we just launched a new show with me and some
people might know Jessica Gao. She created Sheehall. She's very funny.
But we are doing a low low I can't stress
this enough, low stakes who can make most money gambling challenge.

(01:02:25):
We're calling it the Gallumbler. It's so far. It's me
playing ten cent poker versus her scratch off tickets. We
just recorded the first episode and there I might not win.
I should win, but I might not see it only
takes one good ticket to really blow my ten said
poker out of the window.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, you got your sweet Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
It's almost certainly been a ride out on the show.
But because I never pay attention, it's new to me.
The jazz fusion Minoru moroaka. I'm assuming you're a fan,
but it's it's sort of like jazz fusion with a
lot of traditional Japanese instruments. Oh, it's the kind of
music that you like, you listen to to the album.

(01:03:10):
The album we listened to is called Bamboo from late seventies,
and it's the kind of thing where you're like, oh,
if this dude didn't exist, the riza would just be
deleted from the timeline. Like it's just completely like, oh right,
bamboo flutes and like jazz fusion standards.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's great. Oh, I love that. Jackie's Neil, thank you
so much for helping me host today. Where do the
people find you, follow you, support you? And what is
a tweet that you like? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
You can always find me in these streets, baby, But
I am. I'm round in the corner. I'm on my
way home. I'm on my way home. Okay, just letting
you know at Jackie's Neil on everything, you know, the
Comedian Fuse show that I run is going to be
We're on a hiatus right now, but when we come
back is going to be kickstarting a pretty dope year

(01:04:02):
of growth for the show, so we have been forced
to create an Instagram account for it. So go follow
that comedian feud boom. We're gonna do some do some
dope shit over the next year, not only here in
LA but in other places as well, so be ready
for that. Okay, and then uh yeah, baby, that's about it. Uh,

(01:04:26):
nothing nothing crazy to report as far as new ship
too to uh that you can watch. You know, we
got some commercials that might be airing pretty soon you
can watch.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
So okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
And then as the year goes on, don't pay for
the ads, baby, And then as the year goes on,
there will be some more ship to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Any media tweets that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
You like, yes, so on Twitter?

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
You know the Kurt Angle meme, the meme where he's
like just kind of looking, you know, with the smirk
on his face and the eyes and things like that.
You know the meme I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Which one is?

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Is uh that meme?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Oh yeah? Angles?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
The kurd Angle. Kurt Angle is a former wrestler medalist
and everything like that. If you don't know the kurd
Angle meme as you're if you're listening to this, go
look it up. It's very popular and see how people
are using it, and then this will probably be funnier
to you. But Kurt Angle used that meme and captioned
it the face I make when I ask my wife

(01:05:30):
for some Hoctua time. And then hashtag is true and
then right under it is this post has been deleted,
and Kurt Ankle quote tweeted it your Olympic hero is
in the doghouse right now. It was funny, so he
wrote that tweet that his wife was like, delete that ship.

(01:05:55):
Kurt Angle is one of the funniest like pro wrestlers,
like of all time, and it's so funny. But that shit,
that shit killed me. Uh, this post has been deleted.
Makes so many tweets that much funny to deleted tweets
or the lifeblood of the Internet. For sure, some tweets

(01:06:15):
I'm liking, let's see where is it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Where is it? Where is it? First one at at
Exhaust Exhaust Data tweeted saying furglicious when I mean kafka esque,
And then at sv Carbo Halic tweeted, and this is
for all my footy fans out there. You know, France
just crashed out of the Euros at the hands of Spain.

(01:06:39):
Rather defeat of Spain, Lamina mal became one of the
young actually the youngest scorer in the Euros. Shout out
to him. But at SB Carboholic tweeted, please don't be
putting killing in Bape's name next to tierran Ree. Anyone
who watched both will tell you who was comfortably the
better footballer. And I stand on that. We all know
tyran Ree is the greatest French striker. But look, Killian Popey,

(01:07:02):
oh you got time, you got time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
I thought you were going to say the tweet that
was like, don't heavy the France can't expect the left
wing to save him twice in one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Year for one week? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, oh
that's amazing. I did not see that. Yeah, you hate
to see it, folks, But hey, uh, Killian, you did
get them a World Cup, so you're still in it.
You're still in it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
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