In this edition of Concrete Jungle Wet Dream Trendmato, Jack and special guest host Pallavi Gunalan discuss Hawk Tuah's Bill Maher interview, a check-in with Pallavi: our Indian election correspondent, the guy who billed Google and Facebook hundreds of millions of dollars, a Russian chess champion poisoning their opponent, Trump hitting Kamala with several Willie Horton-style attack ads, more info on how Trump is trying to ratfuck the election and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Concrete
Jungle Wet Dream Trend madeo that is courtesy of The
Hawk to a girl. The Hawk to a girl who
went on Bill Maher, Uh quickly, I'm Jack. I'm thrilled
to be joined by.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Poly Never be the Hawk to a girl.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Not if you talk like that, Polly, you won't be true.
Do you have you seen the clip of her on
Bill Maher?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I don't understand how Bill Maher gets the guests he
gets and then is like, people are crazy, You're insane.
What do you You're the one doing it, You're you're
seeking these people out right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Anyways, His interview style is kind of boring. He's just like,
whoa what rep do you listen to? But I do
just that this is another banger from the Hawk to
a girl that I would like to share with you
real quick if I'm sure everybody's heard it. But still
just a lot of fun. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
What's old to you?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Old rope?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
To me, it's jay Z and Tupac.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dead Silent.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh you've heard of jay Z Yeac.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Interview He says that one song jay Z, it's like
Concrete Jungle, what dream TIMEO you know about New York
all right, now listen to it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Does Bill Maher recognize it? Or does he?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You know, he was like, oh, that's like probably the
lyrics of the song. He probably was like, oh, yeah,
that jay Z is writing crazy songs.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I just pretend to listen to jay Z and Tupac. Yeah, yeah,
I am curious. I haven't seen the clip after the fact.
If he recognized as is the genius in his midst?
Almost definitely not.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I just had to do another podcast, and I say
had because I can't believe I didn't. But it's called
I Hate Bill Maher and it's by Will Weldon, and
he makes us watch episodes of Bill Maher and then
like break it down and talk about it, and he
viscerally hates Bill Maher and I hate him for making
me watch this episode of Bill Maher for two thousand
and three. But I'm going through all of Bill Maher's
(02:28):
like discography. Basically, he's he was going from like all
of Bill Maher's TV shows and then he might do
his podcasts and stuff like he has a passion for
hating Bill Maher and it's so visceral and it's like
Bill Maher has always been this awful person. I don't
know how he survived this long. But anyway, that podcast
(02:50):
is really fun too, amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, Paula, they you have offered to be our Indian
course for the upcoming presidential election. We have a story
that dropped into our lapse that is on your beat.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah. I've been studying the WhatsApp polls and memes, you know,
I've been locked into the auntie calls, you know what
I mean. And this one popped up on my on
my Twitter and it is a person who is an
Indian man and he goes to a Trump rally dressed
(03:31):
as the Bake Ramaswami in that he is an Indian
man in a suit, right, and he flew to Montana, Yeah,
just by being brown. And then he walked in and
then everybody was like, oh my god, hey the Vike.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Are you the Vike and then introduced himself. People were
asking to take pictures with him, and he was just
obliging everyone.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
They were all excited.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The governor or the senator Matthew was his name, Matthew Whitaker. Yeah,
like recognized him as Avake and there were just he
was just like these white people's like super excited, like dreamed.
Miss Montana like addressed him and took a picture him,
and he tried to go on stage, which is insane
(04:17):
given the assassination attempt, but like the Secret Service asked
for his press credentials at like right when he was about.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
To, and then they kicked him out.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And it's so funny because you know they would have
done that to Vake anyways, if it was the real
Deva would have been like, I'm sorry, no brown people
allowed on stage right now?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, of course, But I just love that. I feel
like the Secret Service has been shown lacking like a
you know, after the assassination attempt. Like obviously the assassination
attempt was like wild, but like there's also like a
right wing troll who just like walked up to Kamala
Harris was just like really, yeah, oh my god, how
(04:58):
the fuck did she get that close? But anyways, come on,
Secret Service, let's see there. There's this story that I
guess is an old story, but it just popped up
on Reddit again about a guy who build Google and
Facebook one hundred and twenty two million dollars and they
(05:19):
like paid him. He's now in jail. He was, I
believe Lithuanian, but he just was like got broken to
somebody's email, so like got figured out what like the
invoicing process was, who you emailed to get your invoices
paid out, and then was able to get the company's
(05:43):
Google and Facebook just via asking for it one hundred
and twenty two million dollars before he got that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't see what's wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I have in best welled thirty million from my heart
and TDZ, so like, I don't understand what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, in the.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Same way I've just been sending guys, you're.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Just asking nicely. You ask so nicely.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
A thousand percent should not go to jail for this,
I know, or like those people who like are still
on employee payroll but like don't go into work for
like twelve years. There was I think it was in
like some Asian countries. Officers, yeah, office exactly. That was good,
that was great, But they they should just allow them.
(06:25):
They just if you get away with that, if you
get away with it, if you're like an evident Goliath situation,
they should just let you keep food.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
They should just let you get away with it. I agree,
Like that there should be a court of public opinion
where they're like, do we just like kind of act
in press, like be impressed by the balls that took
to do this. This also like added context for me
for why companies are so like constantly worried about like
(06:56):
fishing scams and like making you change your passwords every
two weeks. Is like, oh, this is what Like It's
not just that they get access to the shitty like
spreadsheets that are being sent around between like the boring
jobs of your company. It's that people are paying so
little attention that they won't pay one hundred and twenty
(07:17):
two million dollars if you just like it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Happened to us, we don't want it to happen to you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We don't want it to happen all right. Uh. And
also some international news that as a Russian chess champion
has been arrested for smearing mercury on her opponent's chess
pieces in an attempt to poison them. So this is
(07:46):
we've had and mad, I know what that's isn't that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Letter letter queens gambit all over them?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Also the most Russian ship that would be like I
know that would be like if I killed someone with
chicken tika masala, Like this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Is not.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
This is like your stereotype for poisoning people all the time,
Like that's what Putin is famous for.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Else, like when the US had a cheating a Russian
or when the US had a chest cheating scandal, it
was like a guy with a thing vibrating in his ass.
And in Russia they're like, no, I'm going to poison
you through the skin of your hand, where every move
you make against me makes you closer to death.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Hey, why do we play the villains in all your
Bond movies?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't understand. Yeah, what's your fucking problem? That's not fair. Anyways,
they're considering a potential lifetime band she faces three years
in prison, and considering three years in prison seems light.
But okay, it's smuggling.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
In phones to play chess on her on her phone
on burner phones.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I do appreciate that. It's a potential considering a
potential lifetime ban. Like they're like, we're not going to
do anything. We're not going crazy here, you know. Yeah,
I mean, if anything, she's guilty of loving the game
a little too much.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
We like, we like her creative style. You know that's
a move. That's a move they hadn't seen before.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'll tell you that that's an opening they had predicted.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, the ultimate defense, the Russian defense they have like
the French open, uh, you know, and this is the
Russian open, which is that you have secretly poisoned the
chess pieces of the find.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Out because like the horse fell over, is.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
How they right exactly. All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back. We'll talk some politics. We'll be right back,
and we're back and Trump is. A week ago, we
(10:05):
were told by a Trump advisor that the campaign was
planning to hit the Harris Walls campaign with quote several
Willie Horton cases. Willie Horton is shorthand for an infamously
racist attack ad run by George H. W. Bush in
eighty eight. It's widely agreed to have been like a
(10:26):
national disgrace and racist and you know the impact. You know,
historians point to it as having done huge damage to
black men and how they're prosecuted in US courts for years. Basically,
Bill Clinton's entire you know, tough on crime, super predator
(10:52):
stance was his attempt to protect against the Democrats. Ever
being called, you know, soft on crime again and you know,
he was a complete fucking disaster and travesty. And the
Trump campaign is like, yeah, we're gonna do that. We're
gonna do another one of those. And I actually saw
(11:15):
one of the ads in I am currently in a
suburb of Philadelphia and even though I'm in New Jersey
that they are advertising here like it is a suburb
of Philadelphia and yeah, it's just a bunch of criminals,
(11:35):
you know, horrifying crimes committed while Kamala Harris was a
g And then they include mugshots of I think exclusively
black men, of course, because they want to Yeah, they
just want to get the white voter fear ramped all
the way up. So yeah, I mean when they said
(11:59):
Willie Horton, they they meant it. They are going full on.
It's fucked up. They also make her look like they've
sped up the video so she looks like she's on meth.
I'm curious if it's like even legal, because they just
have her like laughing and like just seeming all all
(12:24):
out of sorts is very Strange's so weird.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like when you initially said Willie, like that reminded me
of him being racist in a different way.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did you hear about the Willie Brown helicopter ride.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Thing right, Yeah, where he claimed that he had been
in a near helicopter crash with Willie Brown and it
was actually a different black politician.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, And he had said that, like during the helicopter
ride which had a bad landing or an emergency landing,
Willie had told him all these awful stories about Kamala,
But it wasn't even her ex who's like friends with
her or whatever it was. It was somebody else entirely.
It's just another because of the racism associated with it.
It just reminded me of.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That, just cause the worst lie.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Black man he is throwing under the bus.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right, Jesus christ. We have more detail on his plan
to rap fuck the upcoming election. There's a good article
in the Guardian that is just looking at you know,
in addition to a lot of the crazy shit that's
happening in Georgia with their kind of election officials of
(13:37):
the Republican National Committee's election litigation team is now being
led by Christina Bob, an election denier, who is facing
criminal charges for her efforts to overturn the twenty twenty race. I.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I that'sop anybody from anything, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right, Like, person who is criminally being investigated for doing
crimes in association with election is like their head, their
head of election.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
How Trump appointed every member of his cabinet, he was like,
who's the dumbest bitch alive secretary of education?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
To right, who hates the environment EPA, let's.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Go legitimately, Yeah, and then they're yeah, like an oil executive.
It's and then just the details are really annoying, like
because they're basically the way they're going to do it
is they're going to ask for evidence, like just more
(14:42):
and more evident. They'll be like, I need to see
the you know, you know, every receipt of like every
person who touched these ballots, and if you can't show
that to them, they're going to like they basically issue
like chain of custody and investigations. And it's like, you know,
(15:03):
they say, in logic, it's very hard to definitively prove
something doesn't exist, and they are going to just take
advantage of that. They're going to drill the hell out
of that in the upcoming election.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's going to well that's why this is a christianation,
is it's hard to prove God doesn't exist exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, that's where it's usually brought up or like aliens.
You know, you can't prove it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You can't prove that God and aliens didn't do voter fraud.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You can't, that's right. Yeah. And also they point out
that like the stop the steel shit, So when they
tried to do it in twenty twenty, like I think
a lot of people were like, yeah, no, I guess
I could come around to that, like the people who
voted for Trump. But now it's like a like sixty
six percent of Republicans believe the twenty twenty election was stolen.
(15:56):
So they have a huge group of voters already on
their side and like ready to do this shit. They
have like one hundred thousand people volunteering to like watch
the watch the vote certification process.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I genuinely worry about people's safety because remember when they
refuse to allow people to like give food and water,
to have food and water in line. Yeah, but I'd
like it's going to be there's so much more animosity.
And I also remember, weren't they like defacing or fucking
up ballot boxes in California at the time, like they
(16:34):
were trying to get people to like lose votes in
those when you drop off your your ballot in the
mail boxes.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The big like the vote.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Colection books too.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, so there's this guy Mark
Elliott Elios who is like the foremost expert, like he
fought all the like attempts by the Trump administration to
to steal the twenty two the election. He was saying
that their attempts last time were pretty like ham handed,
(17:08):
and he would know he's the one they were literally
stuffing him in there. But he one thing he says
is like you can actually go to democracy docket dot
com and sign up to be a poll watcher as well,
so that at least there's people, you know, who aren't.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Watchers who will watch the watchers.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Who will watch the watchers exactly. But he's also just
saying like, yeah, like you said, you know, I think
there's going to be a lot like they're much more sophisticated.
They have a lot more people kind of ready to
jump in. Yeah, they've been racist, but now they're like
(17:49):
they're ready to and and he's like, I think there's
going to be both legal and extra legal methods.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, I'm just worried about like like physical altercations too.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah. Like right now, they're trying to claim that illegals
quote unquote are voting and that people should have to
provide proof of citizenship, which would of course be a
massive tool of voter suppression because it's like really hard
to you know, find your citizenship on short notice, your
(18:22):
proof of citizenship, and just like a tremendous pain.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It is going to have like the worst phone call
with their parents where they're like, Okay, I need my
birth certificate or my passport, can you give it right?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, exactly. And the laws that they're trying to pass,
like the legal experts think they won't stick, but they're
creating the pretense to cast doubt on the election. So
it's just like you can't can't play defense against this
because they're just going to make up like whatever the
fuck they want to.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's also just awful because you're constantly like this is
American politics in general, but you're constantly on your heels
about things, so you can't even like whatever is the
conflict of the day takes over everything. It feels like
and you can't make progress on like any other any
other subject like healthcare or education because you're putting out
(19:13):
the fire of like people are going to like fight
each other at the ballot boxes.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah that's insane.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, I mean I had like there's so much. Yeah,
it's the Steve Bannon strategy of flood the zone with
shit where you just like there's so much bad shit
going on, Like I'd even forgotten like the stuff they
did to overturn the twenty twenty election, Like yeah, where
like you, I mean they were there were confrontations at
(19:41):
polling sites that led to misleading evidence that Trump and
his allies used to try and overturn the election. Uh.
Trump personally called two Republican canvassers on the Wayne County
Board like in Detroit, trying to like get them to
not certify the vote there, and they like briefly refused
(20:03):
to certify and then like reverse themselves and did certify.
But like, you know, we know what they're going to
try to do. They're just going to be better prepared
them on the fly. Yeah, Like I was listening to
that five for Rhiann and Mum's podcast from the week
(20:24):
where they were talking about Gore v. Bush or Bush v. Gore,
the like Supreme Court case where the conservative justices decided
the election because they thought that could happen again. We
still think it could happen again in this upcoming election.
(20:45):
But they were talking about like stuff that was happening
where the Supreme Court was trying to get it so
like you had to stop taking mail in ballots and
Texas they were just like all these ways the Supreme
Court was trying to intervene. And now they have this
like three majority and like a real head of steam
of just like doing whatever Donald Trump wants them to do,
(21:05):
so like that is going to come come into play.
And then Trump just straight up calling people and being like, hey,
let's can you rap fuck this thing for me? Yeah.
Wisconsin Republicans nearly got the state Supreme Court to block
certification of the state's election in twenty twenty in Arizona.
(21:26):
Trump called the governor, Doug Doocey and he was certified
as he was certifying the vote, trying to get him
to stop the certification of votes.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's just hey, I'm just going to say it now,
Trump lose my fucking number. Okay, don't call me on
election day. Don't ask me to do anything for you
too little.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I need eighty thousand votes. That's that's all I need
from you.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
First of all, you know I can't count that high.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Paula Viganalain, what a pleasure having you here this week.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's not the fun yeah, you having me, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Been a pleasure. Where can people find you? Follow you
all that good stuff at.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Palo Deganalan p A l l A v I g
U n A l A n. Every once in a while,
I'm afraid I'll spell my name wrong, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You nailed it well, killed it. You can find me everywhere.
And I also co produce a facial recognition comedy. The
next show it's August twentieth. Show after that will be
September twentieth. It is at the Comedy Store. It's all
brown comedians, except once in a while we have to
put somebody else on there from the Comedy Store. But
(22:35):
they're also very funny and we love having a token.
You know, DEI we do it too, So come through
and c our show.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's awesome, amazing, all right, that's going to do it
for us. This Thursday afternoon, we are back tomorrow with
the whole last episode of the show until them, Be
kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine,
get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will at your tomorrow fight.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Fight,
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Concrete
Jungle Wet Dream Trend madeo that is courtesy of The
Hawk to a girl. The Hawk to a girl who
went on Bill Maher, Uh quickly, I'm Jack. I'm thrilled
to be joined by.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Poly Never be the Hawk to a girl.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Not if you talk like that, Polly, you won't be true.
Do you have you seen the clip of her on
Bill Maher?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I don't understand how Bill Maher gets the guests he
gets and then is like, people are crazy, You're insane.
What do you You're the one doing it, You're you're
seeking these people out right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Anyways, His interview style is kind of boring. He's just like,
whoa what rep do you listen to? But I do
just that this is another banger from the Hawk to
a girl that I would like to share with you
real quick if I'm sure everybody's heard it. But still
just a lot of fun. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
What's old to you?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Old rope?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
To me, it's jay Z and Tupac.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Dead Silent.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh you've heard of jay Z Yeac.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Interview He says that one song jay Z, it's like
Concrete Jungle, what dream TIMEO you know about New York
all right, now listen to it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Does Bill Maher recognize it? Or does he?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You know, he was like, oh, that's like probably the
lyrics of the song. He probably was like, oh, yeah,
that jay Z is writing crazy songs.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I just pretend to listen to jay Z and Tupac. Yeah, yeah,
I am curious. I haven't seen the clip after the fact.
If he recognized as is the genius in his midst?
Almost definitely not.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I just had to do another podcast, and I say
had because I can't believe I didn't. But it's called
I Hate Bill Maher and it's by Will Weldon, and
he makes us watch episodes of Bill Maher and then
like break it down and talk about it, and he
viscerally hates Bill Maher and I hate him for making
me watch this episode of Bill Maher for two thousand
and three. But I'm going through all of Bill Maher's
(02:28):
like discography. Basically, he's he was going from like all
of Bill Maher's TV shows and then he might do
his podcasts and stuff like he has a passion for
hating Bill Maher and it's so visceral and it's like
Bill Maher has always been this awful person. I don't
know how he survived this long. But anyway, that podcast
(02:50):
is really fun too, amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, Paula, they you have offered to be our Indian
course for the upcoming presidential election. We have a story
that dropped into our lapse that is on your beat.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah. I've been studying the WhatsApp polls and memes, you know,
I've been locked into the auntie calls, you know what
I mean. And this one popped up on my on
my Twitter and it is a person who is an
Indian man and he goes to a Trump rally dressed
(03:31):
as the Bake Ramaswami in that he is an Indian
man in a suit, right, and he flew to Montana, Yeah,
just by being brown. And then he walked in and
then everybody was like, oh my god, hey the Vike.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Are you the Vike and then introduced himself. People were
asking to take pictures with him, and he was just
obliging everyone.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
They were all excited.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The governor or the senator Matthew was his name, Matthew Whitaker. Yeah,
like recognized him as Avake and there were just he
was just like these white people's like super excited, like dreamed.
Miss Montana like addressed him and took a picture him,
and he tried to go on stage, which is insane
(04:17):
given the assassination attempt, but like the Secret Service asked
for his press credentials at like right when he was about.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
To, and then they kicked him out.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And it's so funny because you know they would have
done that to Vake anyways, if it was the real
Deva would have been like, I'm sorry, no brown people
allowed on stage right now?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, of course, But I just love that. I feel
like the Secret Service has been shown lacking like a
you know, after the assassination attempt. Like obviously the assassination
attempt was like wild, but like there's also like a
right wing troll who just like walked up to Kamala
Harris was just like really, yeah, oh my god, how
(04:58):
the fuck did she get that close? But anyways, come on,
Secret Service, let's see there. There's this story that I
guess is an old story, but it just popped up
on Reddit again about a guy who build Google and
Facebook one hundred and twenty two million dollars and they
(05:19):
like paid him. He's now in jail. He was, I
believe Lithuanian, but he just was like got broken to
somebody's email, so like got figured out what like the
invoicing process was, who you emailed to get your invoices
paid out, and then was able to get the company's
(05:43):
Google and Facebook just via asking for it one hundred
and twenty two million dollars before he got that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't see what's wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I have in best welled thirty million from my heart
and TDZ, so like, I don't understand what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, in the.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Same way I've just been sending guys, you're.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Just asking nicely. You ask so nicely.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
A thousand percent should not go to jail for this,
I know, or like those people who like are still
on employee payroll but like don't go into work for
like twelve years. There was I think it was in
like some Asian countries. Officers, yeah, office exactly. That was good,
that was great, But they they should just allow them.
(06:25):
They just if you get away with that, if you
get away with it, if you're like an evident Goliath situation,
they should just let you keep food.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
They should just let you get away with it. I agree,
Like that there should be a court of public opinion
where they're like, do we just like kind of act
in press, like be impressed by the balls that took
to do this. This also like added context for me
for why companies are so like constantly worried about like
(06:56):
fishing scams and like making you change your passwords every
two weeks. Is like, oh, this is what Like It's
not just that they get access to the shitty like
spreadsheets that are being sent around between like the boring
jobs of your company. It's that people are paying so
little attention that they won't pay one hundred and twenty
(07:17):
two million dollars if you just like it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Happened to us, we don't want it to happen to you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We don't want it to happen all right. Uh. And
also some international news that as a Russian chess champion
has been arrested for smearing mercury on her opponent's chess
pieces in an attempt to poison them. So this is
(07:46):
we've had and mad, I know what that's isn't that.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Letter letter queens gambit all over them?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Also the most Russian ship that would be like I
know that would be like if I killed someone with
chicken tika masala, Like this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Is not.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
This is like your stereotype for poisoning people all the time,
Like that's what Putin is famous for.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Else, like when the US had a cheating a Russian
or when the US had a chest cheating scandal, it
was like a guy with a thing vibrating in his ass.
And in Russia they're like, no, I'm going to poison
you through the skin of your hand, where every move
you make against me makes you closer to death.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Hey, why do we play the villains in all your
Bond movies?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't understand. Yeah, what's your fucking problem? That's not fair. Anyways,
they're considering a potential lifetime band she faces three years
in prison, and considering three years in prison seems light.
But okay, it's smuggling.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
In phones to play chess on her on her phone
on burner phones.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I do appreciate that. It's a potential considering a
potential lifetime ban. Like they're like, we're not going to
do anything. We're not going crazy here, you know. Yeah,
I mean, if anything, she's guilty of loving the game
a little too much.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
We like, we like her creative style. You know that's
a move. That's a move they hadn't seen before.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'll tell you that that's an opening they had predicted.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, the ultimate defense, the Russian defense they have like
the French open, uh, you know, and this is the
Russian open, which is that you have secretly poisoned the
chess pieces of the find.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Out because like the horse fell over, is.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
How they right exactly. All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back. We'll talk some politics. We'll be right back,
and we're back and Trump is. A week ago, we
(10:05):
were told by a Trump advisor that the campaign was
planning to hit the Harris Walls campaign with quote several
Willie Horton cases. Willie Horton is shorthand for an infamously
racist attack ad run by George H. W. Bush in
eighty eight. It's widely agreed to have been like a
(10:26):
national disgrace and racist and you know the impact. You know,
historians point to it as having done huge damage to
black men and how they're prosecuted in US courts for years. Basically,
Bill Clinton's entire you know, tough on crime, super predator
(10:52):
stance was his attempt to protect against the Democrats. Ever
being called, you know, soft on crime again and you know,
he was a complete fucking disaster and travesty. And the
Trump campaign is like, yeah, we're gonna do that. We're
gonna do another one of those. And I actually saw
(11:15):
one of the ads in I am currently in a
suburb of Philadelphia and even though I'm in New Jersey
that they are advertising here like it is a suburb
of Philadelphia and yeah, it's just a bunch of criminals,
(11:35):
you know, horrifying crimes committed while Kamala Harris was a
g And then they include mugshots of I think exclusively
black men, of course, because they want to Yeah, they
just want to get the white voter fear ramped all
the way up. So yeah, I mean when they said
(11:59):
Willie Horton, they they meant it. They are going full on.
It's fucked up. They also make her look like they've
sped up the video so she looks like she's on meth.
I'm curious if it's like even legal, because they just
have her like laughing and like just seeming all all
(12:24):
out of sorts is very Strange's so weird.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like when you initially said Willie, like that reminded me
of him being racist in a different way.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did you hear about the Willie Brown helicopter ride.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Thing right, Yeah, where he claimed that he had been
in a near helicopter crash with Willie Brown and it
was actually a different black politician.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, And he had said that, like during the helicopter
ride which had a bad landing or an emergency landing,
Willie had told him all these awful stories about Kamala,
But it wasn't even her ex who's like friends with
her or whatever it was. It was somebody else entirely.
It's just another because of the racism associated with it.
It just reminded me of.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That, just cause the worst lie.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Black man he is throwing under the bus.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right, Jesus christ. We have more detail on his plan
to rap fuck the upcoming election. There's a good article
in the Guardian that is just looking at you know,
in addition to a lot of the crazy shit that's
happening in Georgia with their kind of election officials of
(13:37):
the Republican National Committee's election litigation team is now being
led by Christina Bob, an election denier, who is facing
criminal charges for her efforts to overturn the twenty twenty race. I.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I that'sop anybody from anything, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right, Like, person who is criminally being investigated for doing
crimes in association with election is like their head, their
head of election.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
How Trump appointed every member of his cabinet, he was like,
who's the dumbest bitch alive secretary of education?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
To right, who hates the environment EPA, let's.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Go legitimately, Yeah, and then they're yeah, like an oil executive.
It's and then just the details are really annoying, like
because they're basically the way they're going to do it
is they're going to ask for evidence, like just more
(14:42):
and more evident. They'll be like, I need to see
the you know, you know, every receipt of like every
person who touched these ballots, and if you can't show
that to them, they're going to like they basically issue
like chain of custody and investigations. And it's like, you know,
(15:03):
they say, in logic, it's very hard to definitively prove
something doesn't exist, and they are going to just take
advantage of that. They're going to drill the hell out
of that in the upcoming election.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's going to well that's why this is a christianation,
is it's hard to prove God doesn't exist exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, that's where it's usually brought up or like aliens.
You know, you can't prove it doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You can't prove that God and aliens didn't do voter fraud.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
You can't, that's right. Yeah. And also they point out
that like the stop the steel shit, So when they
tried to do it in twenty twenty, like I think
a lot of people were like, yeah, no, I guess
I could come around to that, like the people who
voted for Trump. But now it's like a like sixty
six percent of Republicans believe the twenty twenty election was stolen.
(15:56):
So they have a huge group of voters already on
their side and like ready to do this shit. They
have like one hundred thousand people volunteering to like watch
the watch the vote certification process.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I genuinely worry about people's safety because remember when they
refuse to allow people to like give food and water,
to have food and water in line. Yeah, but I'd
like it's going to be there's so much more animosity.
And I also remember, weren't they like defacing or fucking
up ballot boxes in California at the time, like they
(16:34):
were trying to get people to like lose votes in
those when you drop off your your ballot in the
mail boxes.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The big like the vote.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Colection books too.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, so there's this guy Mark
Elliott Elios who is like the foremost expert, like he
fought all the like attempts by the Trump administration to
to steal the twenty two the election. He was saying
that their attempts last time were pretty like ham handed,
(17:08):
and he would know he's the one they were literally
stuffing him in there. But he one thing he says
is like you can actually go to democracy docket dot
com and sign up to be a poll watcher as well,
so that at least there's people, you know, who aren't.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Watchers who will watch the watchers.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Who will watch the watchers exactly. But he's also just
saying like, yeah, like you said, you know, I think
there's going to be a lot like they're much more sophisticated.
They have a lot more people kind of ready to
jump in. Yeah, they've been racist, but now they're like
(17:49):
they're ready to and and he's like, I think there's
going to be both legal and extra legal methods.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, I'm just worried about like like physical altercations too.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah. Like right now, they're trying to claim that illegals
quote unquote are voting and that people should have to
provide proof of citizenship, which would of course be a
massive tool of voter suppression because it's like really hard
to you know, find your citizenship on short notice, your
(18:22):
proof of citizenship, and just like a tremendous pain.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It is going to have like the worst phone call
with their parents where they're like, Okay, I need my
birth certificate or my passport, can you give it right?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, exactly. And the laws that they're trying to pass,
like the legal experts think they won't stick, but they're
creating the pretense to cast doubt on the election. So
it's just like you can't can't play defense against this
because they're just going to make up like whatever the
fuck they want to.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's also just awful because you're constantly like this is
American politics in general, but you're constantly on your heels
about things, so you can't even like whatever is the
conflict of the day takes over everything. It feels like
and you can't make progress on like any other any
other subject like healthcare or education because you're putting out
(19:13):
the fire of like people are going to like fight
each other at the ballot boxes.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah that's insane.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, I mean I had like there's so much. Yeah,
it's the Steve Bannon strategy of flood the zone with
shit where you just like there's so much bad shit
going on, Like I'd even forgotten like the stuff they
did to overturn the twenty twenty election, Like yeah, where
like you, I mean they were there were confrontations at
(19:41):
polling sites that led to misleading evidence that Trump and
his allies used to try and overturn the election. Uh.
Trump personally called two Republican canvassers on the Wayne County
Board like in Detroit, trying to like get them to
not certify the vote there, and they like briefly refused
(20:03):
to certify and then like reverse themselves and did certify.
But like, you know, we know what they're going to
try to do. They're just going to be better prepared
them on the fly. Yeah, Like I was listening to
that five for Rhiann and Mum's podcast from the week
(20:24):
where they were talking about Gore v. Bush or Bush v. Gore,
the like Supreme Court case where the conservative justices decided
the election because they thought that could happen again. We
still think it could happen again in this upcoming election.
(20:45):
But they were talking about like stuff that was happening
where the Supreme Court was trying to get it so
like you had to stop taking mail in ballots and
Texas they were just like all these ways the Supreme
Court was trying to intervene. And now they have this
like three majority and like a real head of steam
of just like doing whatever Donald Trump wants them to do,
(21:05):
so like that is going to come come into play.
And then Trump just straight up calling people and being like, hey,
let's can you rap fuck this thing for me? Yeah.
Wisconsin Republicans nearly got the state Supreme Court to block
certification of the state's election in twenty twenty in Arizona.
(21:26):
Trump called the governor, Doug Doocey and he was certified
as he was certifying the vote, trying to get him
to stop the certification of votes.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's just hey, I'm just going to say it now,
Trump lose my fucking number. Okay, don't call me on
election day. Don't ask me to do anything for you
too little.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I need eighty thousand votes. That's that's all I need
from you.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
First of all, you know I can't count that high.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Paula Viganalain, what a pleasure having you here this week.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's not the fun yeah, you having me, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Been a pleasure. Where can people find you? Follow you
all that good stuff at.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Palo Deganalan p A l l A v I g
U n A l A n. Every once in a while,
I'm afraid I'll spell my name wrong, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
You nailed it well, killed it. You can find me everywhere.
And I also co produce a facial recognition comedy. The
next show it's August twentieth. Show after that will be
September twentieth. It is at the Comedy Store. It's all
brown comedians, except once in a while we have to
put somebody else on there from the Comedy Store. But
(22:35):
they're also very funny and we love having a token.
You know, DEI we do it too, So come through
and c our show.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's awesome, amazing, all right, that's going to do it
for us. This Thursday afternoon, we are back tomorrow with
the whole last episode of the show until them, Be
kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine,
get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will at your tomorrow fight.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Fight,
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