December 8, 2025 • 47 mins
In this edition of Deep Sea Trending, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the Golden Globe noms & snubs, Netflix planning to buy WB (feat Paramount's David EllIson), Trump "winning" the inaugural FIFA Peace Award and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What do we think donut hold two? Crispy cream donut
conversion is like, what's that?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's the cost?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We think? No? No, like holes equal one donut. I
would say six.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I was doing. I was always going to go to
I was in my mind just so I could keep
eating them. I considered every eight holes to be one donut.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Like that, you've gone aggressive as someone who ate a
bunch of them. This is barely bare.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You have to do that, eat three and be like,
oh my god, dude, relax. No, I'm having a treat.
So I'm going to use my twisted treat logic, which
is I mean, I actually, I guess you could.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wait, we've heard a street logic, but what about treat
logic exactly?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Very similar in the Crispy cream donuts might as well
be cooked in pyrox.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mm hmmm hmm. Shit is.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I I don't think I've ever had them. I'm very
Krispy Kreme averse illiterate. No, I'm just like I haven't
had enough in my life.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I still haven't had a fresh one. They give you free.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
All you gotta do is meander by the front.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They go, hey, hey, you want what you just got
camp out overnight?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Hey, man, come in here, Hey buddy, Oh no, no, they
give them like when you're just there, they're like, hey, hey,
would you like a sample? And they just pull on one. Yeah,
bring your children. I was there with the guy show Bro.
We were getting a free breakfast.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, if you're really nice, they might let you put
one of your kids on the little conveyor belt for THEA.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And get glazed.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm always glazing my kids, you know, big fan of theirs.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition
of Guys Chit.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It is Monday, December eighth. My name is Jack O'Brien.
Not over there is mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Wow, Monday, we're here.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Monday vibes am I right?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hell yeah man, I believe I got a case of
the Monday's self diagnosed, and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I believe you get your ass kicked.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I believe I'm kick my own ass like that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
How's it going, man?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
How you doing? Oh? You saw the arsenal result? Is
that what you're asking? I'm open. I didn't. I did not.
Did they not do well?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We lost a lot of all the other fans are
cheering because they like to watch us lose. But no,
we're still in first place. We're still in first place.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, when's the like big, when's it come?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's all there's no like postseason. It's all based off
of building up points throughout the season. So it's based
off your record by the end like Nascar. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's exactly what football fans appreciate when I say, oh yeah,
football is like the NASCAR of Europe.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, exactly exactly. It makes more sense than college football
does because all my other text thread with my friends
who watch college football like what the fuck is this?
How does Miami get what the fucking weak ass schedule?
What about fucking Alabama? They lost me. I'm like, I
don't know what the fuck this is. I thought it
used to be the writers and coaches used to decide this.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
They did, and now now there's attorney, which I'm just saying,
the better money how for your football should give it
a try. I'm just saying, take a page from the
original football story.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Americans are slowly infecting European soccer with like the way
they're doing deals and shit, like long ass contracts that
people are like, what the fuck is this. These are
like NFL deals you're signing people to. It's about Europe.
You're welcome. You're welcome, man.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Now you can pay attention to it every day of
your life, exactly. You have to like learn about business
to be a sports fan.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Play your matches in other countries to maximize profit. Fuck
the fans, that's right. Get you thinking like a real capitalist.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
All right. This is the episode where we look at
what was trending over the weekend. But first we let
you get to know us a little bit better by
telling you some things that we think are overrated and underrated. Miles,
what is something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's just it's I don't know how to describe this.
It's a texture and it's also an aesthetic that I
think has a stranglehold on men of a certain age,
specifically like white dudes. But sideline fashion, and what I
mean is the clothing you see coaches, coordinators wear on
the sidelines of you know what you're talking about. Ye
(04:47):
wrote this down because it's so funny. It's it's a look, right,
It's like kind of business casual you're wearing like cats jacket,
I fit, zip up, hoarder, zip sort of thing that
like is like saying I'm not all business still. I
still rep the Titans, baby or whatever the fuck it is.
(05:10):
But it's just interesting to see because you like when
you look at all like the companies like the Adidas
is under Armours Nikes that like make all the uniforms.
They also sell a fuck ton of this like sideline gear,
so you can look like you are one of the coaches.
And it's funny when you see people wear that shit
in the wild, like it really it's like the elevated.
Like me, I'm still wearing a jersey of someone who's
(05:32):
twenty years younger than me. I don't have a fuck. Yes,
this is a child's name on my jersey. I am
a fan forever. I just like I'm still a jersey
kid at heart. But there's like a moment where I've
seen other people be like, I gotta put the jerseys down, man,
I'm a fucking man. Okay. Now I wear the sideline
golf Polo of the North Carolina they.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Already look they're golfing. It's just all it's like golf
culture has taken over the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, yeah, And it's just like it's a look that
it feels it's also so American that I can't it's
it's like it is part of the texture of American culture.
Sideline fashion.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, it's a it's kind of a bummer, man, the
like NBA coaches used to wear suits on the sideline
and you could like judge them by their fashion, and
that that feels like the most recent change in trends.
That also feels the most anachronistic, Like I can't imagine
an NBA coach now switching back to suits suits. Yeah,
(06:32):
but they should, but like it just feels like it's
they might as well have like a fucking bowler hat on,
and like it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Came generational, you know, yeah, because you see this also
like in England too, like where the old school look
was wearing a suit and now you're seeing more and
more people wear like the training gear or like more
casual like now no longer a suit. I'm a were
like a nice sweater or something. It's just it's I
think it's also like one of those things too, Like
(07:01):
just with how like as millennials become like the managers
in workplaces, the culture sort of changes because like, man,
that's the ship I was subjected to, and I don't
want to do that shit anymore. Like I don't want
to wear a fucking suit. I'm gonna wear a fucking
hoodie or whatever, which doesn't look great, but look detro.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Football has always been this sideline fashion, as you describe it,
of like, you know, you have like a warm up
on you you're wearing like a golf warm up with
pants on. But the NBA was like the last hole.
And of course baseball has the amazing Oh yeah, you
wear the jersey like the athletes. You wear the same
(07:38):
thing as the athletes, and it's the most form fitting
of the uniforms.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yeah, like there's nowhere to hide. I remember when
Tommy Lesorda, towards the end of his reign as the
Dodgers manager, would just be out there and I was
always been like I always as a kid, I was like,
is he gonna what? That's not a good look? But fine,
I like it. I like it. But yeah, like I said,
sideline fashion, shout out to y'all, shout out. I think honestly,
it still makes the ultimate gift for the insert team
(08:06):
name here fan in your life is get them a
little quarter zip sideline joint and yeah, lovely.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
If they're a man of a certain age, you got
you get to Yeah, the kids, you still get the jersey.
Still get the kids who are like I just want
to I want to rock that Popovich?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know, why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
My underrated is how exhausting it is to be on
the sea. I took the kids fishing this weekend into
the Pacific. Great day. Caught a lot of fish. My
oldest is like most kids, they get a couple of
fish on there, like I get it, and then they're
(08:48):
they're off, like eating snacks or were playing with their friends.
And my oldest is just like a germinated like all
those hats that are like I love him, respect all
human beings, but if you were a fish, I will
take you from your family. And like that's kind of
his energy, Like he loves fish. He's like energy. Is
(09:11):
he trying to break up fish family? He's he's just NonStop.
He's not happy unless he's got a fish on his line, like.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Man, he's a machine. Oh ship.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, but he can't get on the pro circuit. So
he caught so many fish?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Is he like also asking to go Like is he
like can yah?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wow? Wow, there's gotta be zeitgang out here that could
hook it up. Bro. I know, I know one of
y'all are some deep sea fish fucking freaks. Man, take
us on this.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
There's a lot of downtime for podcasts if you're a
deep sea captain.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah. Yeah, but I was gonna like we were.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We were only out from like seven to one. Yeah,
half Dad, I come home. It was it was the
type of tiredness that has more income and with being
drunk than being like sleepy. I was like I was wrecked.
And so I'm like trying to puzzle out why I'm
(10:09):
always so tired after being on the sea for more
than a couple hours. And I'm also noticing that the
ground is still like rocking under me. And it occurred
to me, like there are workout classes in Los Angeles.
I'm assuming they're everywhere where people pay to like stand
on an unstable surface.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What do you mean boards?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
No, like the they have like plates that you stand
on that like move you around so that you can
work around. But I think the logic is that it
strengthens your courmonth, like you're working out in a weird way,
like your body. The workout people are like body muscle
confusion and your body ship out of your body, so
(10:52):
it doesn't know what happened to it. But I feel
like that's what I'm feeling when I call it. It's
like a six hour long just your body's just trying
to fucking stay upright for so long. That's my theory.
I don't know if you have people, And I did
do some like googling, and it's like that's one of
(11:13):
the explanations. The other ones were like U boat exhaust
and being out in the sun. But this was a
mostly overcast day and I only spent like fifteen minutes
huffing direct fumes from the from the engine.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I feel like, probably the lack of stability. Oh
is that what's I was like, what's on your face?
I think you so soot all over your cheek? No,
that's the exhaust.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, no, the circle that goes from under my eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah yeah, unders again yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So you need to you need to like get something
that will just put it all directly.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, yeah, you're I think you must have used it,
toul because you don't have the same burn marks from
the heat from the exhaust pipe ring on your face.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, I've got to learn down to us. Yeah,
it's good ship though.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Just like, hey, where's your dad's he's over by the
exhaust again. I suck. Every time you bring it up.
I always think of how shit I was at fishing
as a kid. I don't know why. If it does
it require skill? No?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, I mean what it requires.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They's just fucking hate me, Jack. I hate fucking going dad.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean if you're going and other people are catching
fish on the boat at the same time as you, like,
that's basically catching my fish. Yeah, they're they're just catching
you or fish do to spite you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I'm not joking. I went on like two deep sea
fishing like kind of trips, like with like a kid,
the kids from my like when I played hockey, which
is like because I was always doing like weird shit
I would never do. But with these kids I played
on hockey with, They're like, hey, we're going out deep.
So I'm like, okay, twice bro, I didn't catch shit?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Did everybody else cut?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And I was like that ship that was like Trump
at the fucking White House correspondence dinner. I was like, Okay,
y'all think it's a fucking game. Huh to it personally? Yeah,
And I took that personally, and I took that personally,
and you know what I did never fished again. So
it's not like I really realized my power after that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
There is a weird like superstitious like kind of some
people are lucky with fishing, some people aren't. Like I
had a similar thing, Like I think the thing that
got me on fishing is when I was in uh preschool,
there was a summer camp. There's a summer camp where
we in Wheeling, West Virginia where we went down to
those like muddy Wheeling River and we're just like throwing
(13:30):
in hooks without like that. Some people were putting little
bread on it. And I caught a fish without anything
on the hook, and I was immediately like I got it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, you've got a man.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And then my yeah, my oldest has just insane good
fishing luck. Just every every time I turned around to
go with him and I'll be like, give me that
fucking pull. He gets it the thing where, you know,
because I'll put it down and then hand it to
him and then like instead of doing that, You're.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like, hey, give me that shit, I caught it. You
see this dad, Your dad's not here. I'm sorry to
see his Jack.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What is something Miles you think is overrated?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Uh? Just again, rage bait was a term of the
year and the art. It's rage bait articles that are
so fucking stupid that I've just like because right now
we're in the era of like year end lists, and
there's so many lists that feel like they are just
like putting shit or like putting shit on there or
(14:34):
omitting things to get into the discourse and get engagement,
and it's like so disingenuous. Like you'll see like lists
put like fucking not put Sinners on there, but put
some other stupid fucking movie on there, just so people go,
how is Sinners not on that list? Or like there
was like a rap like a top rap album's list
(14:55):
that was like completely fucking stupid, and they were placing
things above like Wu Tang Clan people like the shit
who like you know, like the kind of ship that
used to get us baby used to be. Yeah that
was that was butter for a while.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah that was.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But this chance the rapper album over thirty six.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Chambers and it's the wedding one, it's the.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Wife. But I think there's something. It's it's just so
fucking obvious and to the point now that it's really damaging,
because yeah, man, we're we're completely rearranging society around engagement,
and it's making people less intelligent because the least intelligent
takes are being put out there for the sake of engagement.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yes and no, and they're winning, they're succeeding.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Like it used to be, like damn, I like this
person's takes, like this person has Like I like, what
the fuck they're on Now It's now like the people
that you're gonna look up to are are gonna make
you look so stupid or just normalize these kinds of
dumb takes because I think some people like might see
it for what it is, and other people might be like, oh,
this is actually interesting and now I'm going to be
(16:06):
thoughtlessly contrarian for the sake of quote unquote engagement. So
it's a net loss for humanity. And I'm just like,
there's just like so many obvious rage baby year end
lists now that I'm just my heartaches for the people
who actually take the time to like think about things
and and and and articulate it rather than taking the
short road and being like, eh, man, just say some
(16:27):
shit that is going to come off wild inflammatory, and
then you get your name out there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The wronger you are, the better the better it does, right,
I mean, which I'm sure like there's you look back
and like it's not always great journalism and throughout history,
but there, Yeah, like they had inflammatory shit on the
front page of like tabloids. But then I don't know
that that does seem to be the main currency.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, because everything is so algorithmic, Like it's it's not
just articles, it's it's it's social media content, it's all
of it. It's just early that's we're rearranging everything too.
Can you look if I can't inspire.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You see what's like motherfuckers are saying.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's like the human urge, Like when you can't
when you realize you don't have the power or skill
to create, then the next most alluring option is destruction
because you can't create. So like the rage bait is
firmly in that sort of mindset of like, well, I
can't create, so I will destroy by doing inflammatory takes. Anyway. Yeah,
the second I get like the second I get a
(17:29):
hint of it, I'm like, fuck, oh, this is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh, they're just trying to They're just trying
to get me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
It's like a bad guy movie, just like poking someone's chest.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah right, don't do it right. Watch Miracle on thirty
fourth Street yesterday, I was like, don't do it? S
the new the mar Wilson one. Oh, shout out Marl Wilson.
It's fine, it's pretty good. I just didn't like it
because I'm like, I don't give a shit about Santa
being real or not real, right, I don't even fucking
car dude, as long as the presence are fucking real,
(18:02):
that's it. I watched.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I made my kids watch both Miracle on thirty four
Street and The Santa Claus this weekend for upcoming Santa
Icons episode.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
And did they like the Santa Claus? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I think so. They sat through both of them, so
damn rough Man.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
The Santa Claus is not not my favorite. Well, it's
one of those things where it's purportedly seems like it's
for children, but it was written by like an unhinged
divorce a yes, and what are you saying about people?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Most of the like observational stuff is like and then
divorced dads are at Denny's on Christmas night night.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Who's a fucking greedy Sorry, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All right. My overrated is just lead singers who do
charades hand gestures. I was reminded of watching the David
Byrne Tiny Desk concert and noticing how like great he is,
how much he doesn't do this. He like has his
own weird energies kind of dancing and interacting with the
backup singers. I want to see an indie rock band
(19:09):
I'm gonna leave unnamed, and their singer was like like
when he would sing the word money, he would do
a money hand gesture with his fingers, and like when
he would refer to himself, he would like point at himself.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's just like.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's just a weird affectation that I was. I don't know, man,
it just like makes the whole thing feel so much
stupider than it felt before. It's like an act him out,
Like that's not what I came here for. I didn't
come here to see you.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like I feel like yeah, because like uh oh, if
you have a if you're at a mic stand, because
rappers like doing. Rappers are very they like to just
they're just to keep it, you know what I mean.
But I guess too, And that makes sense because that's
kind of the swag of like rapping, whereas like rock,
you're used to just seeing a guy like two hand
clutch the mic and just belt out the lyrics kind
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of a thing. So something with that energy. I think
that's where hip hop culture has bled into. They're like,
let me let me sauce up my singing.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, wrap. They're good at it, and it like works
with the rhythm of the performance, whereas like, I don't know,
with some with some like performance is just too slow
and so it just seems like very much like childlike
petty cake type ship.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think it's like, yeah, I think when people do that,
they're insecure that they're not dancing right like that.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So let me do it. Let me put a little flavor.
This means money, this means square, this means check, this
means crystal, Like just just's something to do.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It gives you some business, but it's just like the
worst business to do, just like take up smoking or something.
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's the same way like DJ's when you see DJ Set's,
like there's a lot of knob twisting. That's pretty inconsequential. Yeah,
but you got it. You gotta be performing. You gotta performing.
We're not doing something. Got to keep the eyes on.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You have like a a real humpy bassist who's like.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Have you seen Zach Fox DJ No, He's pretty minimal,
Like he's purely like I already know what I'm gonna
how I'm gonna mix this in. I'm just he's like,
I don't need to do a ton of performing like
some of his early stuff. He's just kind of vibing along,
which I really like because everyone's so busy. But anyway,
gotta gotta justify the paycheck.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Us here money. You're gonna make a heart with my fingers.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And you, I'm pointing at you. Y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna
come back. We're gonna talk about the Golden Globe nominations.
Big snub for Ben Shapiro, for us, for US as well.
Thanks mom, We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back,
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and the Globes nominees are just announced, one battle after another,
leading with nine nominations. I think coming in a lot
of people were expecting that one to do pretty well.
Sentimental Value, which is a foreign film or maybe no,
I guess it's not a foreign film, but it's by
the guy made Worst Person in the World a few
(22:17):
years ago, which was really good. I haven't seen it yet.
And then sentimental Value in Sinners I think are tied
in second for the most noms. Okay, in line with expectations.
The TV category I don't even know anymore. Man White
Lotus earned six nominations. That was the only show that
I watched from beginning to end. I don't know, do
(22:38):
they are they not allowed to watch the last episode
when they're making these nominations.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But it's like lazy. It's just sort of like one
of those things where it's like, yeah, off the strength
of the other ones.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, yeah, those are good. I mean, there are some
great performances in there, so but I did not but Landing.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I think we were all watching it out of habit.
Basically we're like, yeah, I mean it's White Lotus, but fine, yeah,
tooth acting is right back.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, some good tooth actings sit in there, which they
still refuse to make its own category one day.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I mean, look, the Golden Globes have been malleable. You know,
they did the like what if you did? Like a
box office award and even fucking Podcast of the Year, which.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I know podcast real quick. On more snubs, Sidney Sweeney
wasn't nominated for that boxing movie that no one saw.
Wicked for Good wasn't nominated in the Best Comedy or
Musical category.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't know what to make of that. Act feels
like they just forgot.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It was like, I don't know, this is like exactly
our shit, but yeah, yeah, box office success it was.
It was nominated in that weird cinematica box office achievement
category that nobody really understands. But those movies are Avatar,
Fire and Ash, which hasn't come out yet, F one
(24:05):
K Pop, Demon Hunters, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning Centers, Weapons,
Wicked for Good, Zutopia, which feels like, I don't know Zutopia.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Too, sorry, it would be weird to fit to the
original Zutopia. Can you give out an award for cinematic
and box office achievement without the box office performance being
something to consider?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
That's a great question, Miles. Nobody, nobody, nobody knows. This
is more art than science.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Box Off Achievement Achievement Avatar fire Nash, which didn't come
out yet.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Right, They're just like this one's going to do good though, right, Yeah, look.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You got to get Jimmy. Jimmy got to give Jimmy
C his flowers, Baby, jim C.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Don't miss. But this was as you mentioned, first year
that the Golden Globes is awarding podcasts. They did have
a short list of nominees. I think they had like
twenty five nominees, and Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, and Ben
Shapiro were on there. And of those, the six nominees
(25:10):
included none of them a clean sweep of no right
wing ship as there was no politics podcast unless you
count what's it called First Up, NPRS up first. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
got some searing takes on that. It's interesting they went
nprs Up first over New York Times The Daily. But
(25:33):
first it's just there, like, I don't know, here's some
shit that's going on today. It's more it's more like
us without talking about how many Krispy Kreme is, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The pot pod Save America was also eligible, I think
as another one, and anything in Candice Owen's show was
also eligible. But good to know that the elderly people
in the HFPA and their new members were smart enough
to be like, they're not Ben Shapiro. Maybe not, dude,
Maybe not do that one.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Call you with Dex Shepherd. Good hang with Amy Poehler.
The Mel Robbins podcast, mprs up first and uh something
called SmartLess.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Ye will learn at Jason Baby very much, the Big Ones. Yeah,
it's it's the Oh you want to listen to a
podcast starter pack?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly, and for good reason. There's some good
shit in there.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
No, Jack, I'm hating on all this bullshit. This is bullshit. Okay,
aout all the real heads. My freaking mom can vote
in these and how the fuck are we not here? Mom?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
To be eligible, you have to be among the top
twenty five shows out there. I'm sorry. Number one seventeen
on the news charts isn't good enough. I do. She
was always against me though for the rest she was
yes fucked up.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She couldn't tell her friends to subscribe enough to get
us into the top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Jack, I've been working on them for years, years. Man.
Nikki Glazer is hosting though again.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
This year, so nicky late did a great job last year. Yeah,
the big loser here Ben Shapiro, who yeah, spent even
without so much money for a FYC. This is the
thing you see all over LA is like for your consideration,
and some of these are embarrassing. Some of the for
(27:30):
your consideration campaigns are like, yo, nobody, nobody thinks that.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
This is embarrassing because ninety nine percent of the members
don't live in New York City, So who the fuck
is going to see this except for your fucking ego?
Or you look, we got you to this for you?
That ain't you?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And shit, Ben Shapiro's ass took over Times Square with
just five different pictures of him looking like he They
they've like basically recreated. They must have paid somebody who does,
like GQ photo shoots, like a ton of money because
they're just like, he's just like a normal cool guy.
(28:09):
Look at him wearing a cool jean jacket, a swede jacket.
Would he wear swayed if he was backwards? Ideologically? I
don't think would he lean against this wall all relaxed
when you wear what do you wear?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Prada shades? If he were an abomination of a person, No.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It really feels like all all over there. There was
even a photo shoot where he's like in his suit
but like his hair's kind of messy and he's like
leaning against a wall in a like dirty boxing gym,
which like it really feels like they were like, what
this is this is our chance to watch Ben into
the mainstream. Yeah, totally and did not take, which I'm
(28:50):
sure he'll have some interesting takes on.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Curious you did you look at the the quotes for
the four year Golden Globes consideration sort of that we
have here in the dock. First one, okay, so there's
one that says a very nice guy, Joe Rogan a
foe of extraordinary potential agility, which said the Washington Post,
and it says number one rap digital song sales iTunes?
(29:15):
What the fuck is this is?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
This?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Is this like a joke ting number one rap digital?
What is that? The other Ones makes a conservative fire brand,
number one conservative podcast in America? Did he have a
rap song that? What number one?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I mean that would be amazing if like he was
like used as a like on Ones that's DNA when
he has like that and the Fox News quote that
he's like rapping over but like.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You're talking about Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. He did have
a song with Tom McDonald. I do remember him having
a rap song with Tom McDonald. If you didn't hear that.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh, I think we covered it. Actually it does ring
a bell. He did have a rap song that did happen.
And then one just says, quote quote not bad. Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think Nicki Minaj did comment on that rap song
and said it wasn't bad. I think, yeah, I think
that's what they're talking about. But he but he but
he hated WAP. How How could how could he?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How could you say those things about WAP and then
have Nicki Minaj, Well, Nicki Minaj's he didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hate Wap Miles. He was confused by what concerned he was.
He was concerned about hyper that they might have a
medical condition because their pussy got wet.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Because I've never I don't see this at home.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
He's never idea that that happened. The greatest cell phone
of all time, which is crazy. Do you know did
any I don't see this mentioned anywhere. Did any of
his movies get nominated in the movie categories?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
No? Oh, no, damn, Yeah, what I wonder what even
the state of Daily Wire Plus or whatever the fuck
they were doing is. Remember that was like, oh there,
they were really Wire Studio for fucking twenty twenty five.
With the new regime.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
All right, let's talk about very impactful entertainment industry news,
which is that Netflix is planning to buy Warner Brothers.
Of the three different terrible options as we were reviewing
the different people who were throwing their hat in the
ring to purchase Warner Brothers Studios, the worst option has
(31:26):
won out, and that is Netflix.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They or have they won out?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
So they won the initial bid, like the Warner Brothers
accepted their bid right, which would be selling to the
streamer for seventy two billion dollars, a deal value to
eighty two point seven billion dollars. I don't know what
the fuck the difference between those two numbers is.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But what's ten billion jack?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You know in this aside from David Zaslov's yacht salesman. Yeah,
I can't imagine there is anyone who's happy about this
other that literally, other than the mogul our best.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Demonic consolidation at the highest order.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, the gills in the unions were all just like
the outcome would eliminate jobs, push down wages, worse in
conditions for all entertainment workers, race prices for consumers, reduce
the volume and diversity of content for all viewers. Yeah,
there was a letter written by anonymous Hollywood A listers
that weren't Congress about a quote potential economic institutional meltdown
(32:28):
in Hollywood if Netflix succeeds in its efforts to acquire
Warner Brothers Discovery. The big takeaway here though, is that
like Netflix doesn't just like not put a lot of
movies in theaters. It seems like they're trying to kill
Oh yeah, full frontal the tee going, Yeah, they're like
they view people every time a movie does well at
(32:50):
the box office, whether it's a Netflix movie or not,
they view that as a loss for them. Yeah, they
want to kill all forms of entertainment that aren't sitting
in bed with your phone five inches from your face,
just like watching shit by yourself without anybody around. Like
that's that's what they want, right. The quotes coming from
(33:12):
Ted Sarandas I assumed that Ted Saranda's the CEO of
Netflix or whatever president one of those the main guy
at Netflix. I assumed he would be in damage control
mode where he's like, guys, we I love going to
the movie theater.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The movie theater, you mean like a when like a
conservative Supreme Court nominee is going through the confermation like
I thought, of course, I want to protect the sanctity
of marriage, and of course Roe V. Wade is settled
long Court.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Day after the news broke, he said that he expects
to release Warner Brothers movies in theaters, but said the
long exclusive windows are not consumer friendly, and I just
want to mention the latest Knives Out movie in the
context of what he's saying there, because the first Knives
Out movie, we earned three hundred and thirteen million.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Dollars at the box office. Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The second one came out in the pandemic. A lot
of people saw it, but it didn't you know, do
well of the box office movies are back, People are
going to the theater. They could have put this out.
Somebody did an analysis. A box office expert was like,
had they just put this out and actually marketed it
as like a full theatrical run, we think it would
(34:27):
have made about two hundred and seventy five million dollars
worldwiow like I'm I'm a movie fan. I enjoy the
first two movies. I barely realized this movie was in theaters.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Right, right, Well, that's two hundred and seventy five dollars
they would have had to share with the.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Movie theaters, right, And it's just again they they don't
give a fuck, Like they would rather lose that money
and make it so that people don't think about going
to the movies. They think about just like staying home
and watching Netflix. They're pulling the oxygen out of the room.
They just don't want it to or.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It feels like another like fundamental misread of culture from
C suite people again, Yes, where they think that this
is what everyone wants, that no one wants to go
to the movie theaters anymore. One of the big things
is affordability that would make people go into the movies
a lot easier. Again, but people aren't being like, I
fucking hate the movie theater. If anything, you hate what
(35:21):
it costs to go to the movie theater. But still
the act of the whole thing of going to the movies,
there is still a bit of magic in that for people.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, so being around other people, we don't do that anymore.
Like this is what are one the one thing?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
When's the last time you laughed in a room full
of seven or more people all together? Like that's kind
of what you get. And I think these I think
for them, they just look at how profitable it is
and figure that's what people want.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You remember when like there's the CEO who got caught
cheating or like the CEO who stole that kid's hat
at the tennis match, and like the first statements that
were released by them were like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You, I'm allowed to cheat whenever I want.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm gonna sue you for even saying that I cheated,
like and it was like, you know, these were internet
trolls writing fake statements for the like that's what this
feels like. It's just like the worst case scenario. Initial
statement is just like yeah, I just think that they
shouldn't like really have to be.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
In consumer friendly. No, expensive theater costs are consumer friend.
It's not the idea of going right. And I think
that's what they're trying to just use that language for
people like, oh, it's better for me if I don't
do a thing that I like think.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You ted some things that he said in the last
year about the difference between Netflix and movie theaters. Like
it just it's clear. It's like a fucking Cruella Deville
whose main thing is hating movie theater. Like that, that's
what it feels like. Like last year, he told The
New York Times that Barbie and Oppenheimer would have been
just as big on Netflix as they were in theaters.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'll get the exactly not true.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's so obviously not true. That it was a like
cultural event and everybody was going out and enjoying the
experience of like going to the movies together. That was
what that entire thing was about.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like they ousted from the C suite for saying something
like such a wild statement. Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
In another interview, he said, there's no reason to believe
that the movie itself is better at any size of
screen for all people. My son's an editor. He is
twenty eight years old, and he watched Lawrence of Arabia
on his phone.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
He like, first of all, way to just throw your
son under the fucking butt. Yeah, my son works in film.
He's a fucking idiot. He doesn't respect the art. Got
him a job at Netflix, right, I mean, he's gonna
be fine. But what the interviewer says, Oh no, and
then he says, but it is just an interesting thing.
At every new development of technology, there's wins for the audience.
(37:58):
Is that what development of technology has been these past years?
Jack names for the audience.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Name like three Netflix films that are going to stay
with you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Exactly, Miles, Miles, Exactly. I got you know what I mean?
I got I've got the irrely because of the way
that Robert de Niro, like when they age him down
but he's still in an old man's body. I think
about that all the time because I sometimes feel that way.
I'm like, there, they can all see the way I'm
lumbering around.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I just think there is a different kind I think.
And look, Netflix has these huge things like Stranger Things
or Squid Game where people watch it and it sort
of like kind of becomes I don't know it just
like it's it's it's very it's like unintentional almost because
it's just there, like you can watch it because it's
on and people are talking about it. Going to see
(38:52):
a film is so much different and engages a different
part of your brain that I think for him to
be like, I don't know, my kid watched a movie
on his phone and then this other thing and then people,
and based on watch time data, I'm seeing it could
be just as big you're fundamentally missing, like how just
like the sort of the wow, the spectacle of it. Yeah,
and thinking that's the same thing. I don't know. I
(39:15):
mean like and I get and I and I look.
I don't get me wrong. I love when I can
watch a movie that I missed in the theater. But
also it's because no one leaves fucking movies in the
theater long enough where it's like, hey, you got two weeks,
three weeks to see this shit, yeah, and then it's
off to streaming.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
They send an email to subscribers announcing the Warner Brothers deal,
referencing popular franchise like Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, and Casablanca.
So we might see like a Stranger Things finale where
like cgi Humphrey Bogart comes in, he'll be sick. So
and then this is like, I guess good news for
like a you know, as somebody feels like the Netflix
(39:53):
takeovers the worst case scenario, Paramount has come in and
launched a hostile takeover David Ellison is basically going directly
to shareholders and being like, this.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Will ruin Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Let me take it over, and it'll be better for
the entertainment industry and better for the value of this company.
And because David Ellison is Trump's buddy, yeah, Trump's now
suggesting the Netflix Warner merger could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
But it's just really really now for what reason? Duh?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You know, because my friend said, it's not just.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
They bought everything right now, They're they're owning everything right now.
And okay, okay, ok okay, because I know I think
Netflix wasn't gonna buy CNN, like they were more interested
in like the theatrical properties and things like that, whereas
like Paramount's like, yeah, we'll take the news too, well,
we will create just one mind, one take on how
things are going for people to consume through the news. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
(40:51):
es yes yes yeah. They're like, if you think we
can't ruin Casablanca, just wait as hold on to your boots.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
But yeah, in case you weren't vince yet. They were
living in a shitty version of the Gilded Age where
people were all like relying on the beneficence of like
ultra wealthy assholes to fix society. Like we're now being
forced to root for Trump Ellison team Trump Ellison, to
say theatrical movie going, because laws of monopoly and anti
(41:20):
trust protections and shit like that are so toothless that
they're only enforced when they can like make one of
the president's friends richer.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, and where the president be like, can you change
the discourse around how we talk about everything happening? Yeah, yeah, great,
let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And this was big. Yeah, this this made me stand up,
put my hand over my heart and say the pledge
of allegiance. Yeah, our president one the coveted FIFA piece awar.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yes, yes, first ever, first of its kind.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
That which makes it even more better. It's the first
of its gun.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's most better, actually one the first one. The statuette
itself looks like a tortured metaphor for like the age
we live in, where like these contorted hands are like
trying to grasp at a world that used to be
or something.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, there's disembodied hands reaching up from hell, is how
I'm picturing it, trying to grab the earth the hands
are really big to the earth.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
In my mind, the hands were the downtrodden trying to participate.
But now that you think about it, it's demons from
hell coming from the subterranean realm and trying to drag
the earth down.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That's what I'm getting Miles. Yeah, yeah, demons from hell.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It's a real test. I really encourage you. Looked up too.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
They look like the hands from the cover of Run
the Jewels albums.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, they're a little snarled. But anyway, So this
all happened on Friday because the World Cup draw took place.
This is where they pick all the names out of
the hat and say these are the teams that are
gonna play.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Each other in the World Cup. It was who's on
the World Cup team?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Names? Did you get on?
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
No, No, I didn't get drafted this year. Next time
neck hopefully, hopefully. But it was wild. There's like Lauren
Hill performed lost Ones. I was like, Lauren, you got
Lauren Hill to show up on time. Wayne Gretzky sounded
like he had taken too many pucks to the head.
Is He struggled to say names like Curasow and Macedonia
and to Trump's light like you said, he won the
(43:42):
first ever FIFA Piece award and Johnny Infantino, the guy
who runs fucking FIFA. What a malignant scumbag, dude. This
guy knows. This is what he said. Quote, this is
your prize, This is your peace prize. There is also
a beautiful metal for you that you can wear everywhere
you want to go. Like you're talking to an incapacitated
(44:05):
child and he's wearing full metal you can wear you
want to go. That ship might as well be a
your place, like yogurt foil top on a string and
he's like, thank you, this is mine, my medal, okay,
and this gold piece is for me. FIFA said the
prize is for quote individuals who help unite people in
peace through unwavering commitment and special actions, although they have
(44:27):
not disclosed details of the selection process.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Selection process is so funny, Like I like the journalists
being like, so, could you just like give us an
idea of the field that.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
You were h Yeah, yeah, it was one narcissistic freak
who gets so excited at the sight of gold objects
that look, guys, we're playing.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Them, let's do any He's dumb. He's a fuck with Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
When Trump got the word, he called it, quote, one
of the great honors of my life. Yes, and then
he said, I've saved millions and million of lives. The
Congo is an example, over ten million people killed and
it was heading for another ten million very quickly. India
and Pakistan. So many different wars we were able to
end and in some cases just before they started.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
You'll have to trust me. You'll have to trust me
that I stopped them exactly probably me. I trust my
my generals that I stopped them, and you have to
trust me.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yep. Then he gave props to Infantino for setting new
records on ticket sales, and then he said, quote, the
world is a safer place now. Where the hottest country
anywhere in the world. Okay, So anyway, this dude is
again so incapacitated right now. Yeah, it's clear to everyone
(45:43):
that all you need to get Trump to agree to
a proposal is just preface the ask with the presentation
of some golden object. Yeah, and you're good. Like everyone's
doing it now and it makes sense to this point.
I was talking to Jamuel Johnson, We're just joking. I
was like, pretty soon the bars don't get so low.
They're gonna give him like the plastic ship. From that
(46:04):
you get a chuck e cheese for like one ticket,
yeah you know, and just spray painted gold like hed.
Someone's gonna give him like a plastic spider ring and
be like here you go, sir, this is it now,
can you This.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Is your Dakota ring? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What is this spider yep? And it's gold, sir, Wow wow, wow, wow,
this is great. I saved many lives with this ring.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
A lot of people don't realize one of the most
it's one of the great moments of my life. Is
so funny.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
And even the way Infantino says it, this is your prize,
this is your piece, like he's walking this nile guy. Yeah,
just right along the path to the ending.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Right there is also a beautiful metal for you that
you can wear everywhere you want to go to go
like you're talking selling the Yeah, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Wear Frankenstein. You can wear your Frankenstein costume anywhere you
want to go. Honey, wow, wow, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
I's just gonna say four year olds being sold on
their Halloween costume.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
You look so strong in it, you look so good.
And this is mine. Yes, this is your Frankenstein costume,
and it's just for you. Nobody else has it. It's beautiful,
all right.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Well, that's that's where we're at. Those are some of
the stories that are trending. We are back tomorrow with
a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be
kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your
vaccines while you still can't get your flu shots. Don't
do nothing about white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
We will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. The Daily
Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law, co produced
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Speaker 1 (47:41):
Co produced by Victor Wright
Speaker 3 (47:43):
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What do we think donut hold two? Crispy cream donut
conversion is like, what's that?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's the cost?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We think? No? No, like holes equal one donut. I
would say six.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I was doing. I was always going to go to
I was in my mind just so I could keep
eating them. I considered every eight holes to be one donut.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Like that, you've gone aggressive as someone who ate a
bunch of them. This is barely bare.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You have to do that, eat three and be like,
oh my god, dude, relax. No, I'm having a treat.
So I'm going to use my twisted treat logic, which
is I mean, I actually, I guess you could.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wait, we've heard a street logic, but what about treat
logic exactly?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Very similar in the Crispy cream donuts might as well
be cooked in pyrox.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mm hmmm hmm. Shit is.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I I don't think I've ever had them. I'm very
Krispy Kreme averse illiterate. No, I'm just like I haven't
had enough in my life.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I still haven't had a fresh one. They give you free.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
All you gotta do is meander by the front.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They go, hey, hey, you want what you just got
camp out overnight?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Hey, man, come in here, Hey buddy, Oh no, no, they
give them like when you're just there, they're like, hey, hey,
would you like a sample? And they just pull on one. Yeah,
bring your children. I was there with the guy show Bro.
We were getting a free breakfast.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, if you're really nice, they might let you put
one of your kids on the little conveyor belt for THEA.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And get glazed.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm always glazing my kids, you know, big fan of theirs.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition
of Guys Chit.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It is Monday, December eighth. My name is Jack O'Brien.
Not over there is mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Wow, Monday, we're here.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Monday vibes am I right?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hell yeah man, I believe I got a case of
the Monday's self diagnosed, and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I believe you get your ass kicked.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I believe I'm kick my own ass like that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
How's it going, man?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
How you doing? Oh? You saw the arsenal result? Is
that what you're asking? I'm open. I didn't. I did not.
Did they not do well?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We lost a lot of all the other fans are
cheering because they like to watch us lose. But no,
we're still in first place. We're still in first place.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, when's the like big, when's it come?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's all there's no like postseason. It's all based off
of building up points throughout the season. So it's based
off your record by the end like Nascar. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's exactly what football fans appreciate when I say, oh yeah,
football is like the NASCAR of Europe.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, exactly exactly. It makes more sense than college football
does because all my other text thread with my friends
who watch college football like what the fuck is this?
How does Miami get what the fucking weak ass schedule?
What about fucking Alabama? They lost me. I'm like, I
don't know what the fuck this is. I thought it
used to be the writers and coaches used to decide this.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
They did, and now now there's attorney, which I'm just saying,
the better money how for your football should give it
a try. I'm just saying, take a page from the
original football story.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Americans are slowly infecting European soccer with like the way
they're doing deals and shit, like long ass contracts that
people are like, what the fuck is this. These are
like NFL deals you're signing people to. It's about Europe.
You're welcome. You're welcome, man.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Now you can pay attention to it every day of
your life, exactly. You have to like learn about business
to be a sports fan.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Play your matches in other countries to maximize profit. Fuck
the fans, that's right. Get you thinking like a real capitalist.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
All right. This is the episode where we look at
what was trending over the weekend. But first we let
you get to know us a little bit better by
telling you some things that we think are overrated and underrated. Miles,
what is something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's just it's I don't know how to describe this.
It's a texture and it's also an aesthetic that I
think has a stranglehold on men of a certain age,
specifically like white dudes. But sideline fashion, and what I
mean is the clothing you see coaches, coordinators wear on
the sidelines of you know what you're talking about. Ye
(04:47):
wrote this down because it's so funny. It's it's a look, right,
It's like kind of business casual you're wearing like cats jacket,
I fit, zip up, hoarder, zip sort of thing that
like is like saying I'm not all business still. I
still rep the Titans, baby or whatever the fuck it is.
(05:10):
But it's just interesting to see because you like when
you look at all like the companies like the Adidas
is under Armours Nikes that like make all the uniforms.
They also sell a fuck ton of this like sideline gear,
so you can look like you are one of the coaches.
And it's funny when you see people wear that shit
in the wild, like it really it's like the elevated.
Like me, I'm still wearing a jersey of someone who's
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twenty years younger than me. I don't have a fuck. Yes,
this is a child's name on my jersey. I am
a fan forever. I just like I'm still a jersey
kid at heart. But there's like a moment where I've
seen other people be like, I gotta put the jerseys down, man,
I'm a fucking man. Okay. Now I wear the sideline
golf Polo of the North Carolina they.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Already look they're golfing. It's just all it's like golf
culture has taken over the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, yeah, And it's just like it's a look that
it feels it's also so American that I can't it's
it's like it is part of the texture of American culture.
Sideline fashion.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, it's a it's kind of a bummer, man, the
like NBA coaches used to wear suits on the sideline
and you could like judge them by their fashion, and
that that feels like the most recent change in trends.
That also feels the most anachronistic, Like I can't imagine
an NBA coach now switching back to suits suits. Yeah,
(06:32):
but they should, but like it just feels like it's
they might as well have like a fucking bowler hat on,
and like it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Came generational, you know, yeah, because you see this also
like in England too, like where the old school look
was wearing a suit and now you're seeing more and
more people wear like the training gear or like more
casual like now no longer a suit. I'm a were
like a nice sweater or something. It's just it's I
think it's also like one of those things too, Like
(07:01):
just with how like as millennials become like the managers
in workplaces, the culture sort of changes because like, man,
that's the ship I was subjected to, and I don't
want to do that shit anymore. Like I don't want
to wear a fucking suit. I'm gonna wear a fucking
hoodie or whatever, which doesn't look great, but look detro.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Football has always been this sideline fashion, as you describe it,
of like, you know, you have like a warm up
on you you're wearing like a golf warm up with
pants on. But the NBA was like the last hole.
And of course baseball has the amazing Oh yeah, you
wear the jersey like the athletes. You wear the same
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thing as the athletes, and it's the most form fitting
of the uniforms.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yeah, like there's nowhere to hide. I remember when
Tommy Lesorda, towards the end of his reign as the
Dodgers manager, would just be out there and I was
always been like I always as a kid, I was like,
is he gonna what? That's not a good look? But fine,
I like it. I like it. But yeah, like I said,
sideline fashion, shout out to y'all, shout out. I think honestly,
it still makes the ultimate gift for the insert team
(08:06):
name here fan in your life is get them a
little quarter zip sideline joint and yeah, lovely.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
If they're a man of a certain age, you got
you get to Yeah, the kids, you still get the jersey.
Still get the kids who are like I just want
to I want to rock that Popovich?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know, why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
My underrated is how exhausting it is to be on
the sea. I took the kids fishing this weekend into
the Pacific. Great day. Caught a lot of fish. My
oldest is like most kids, they get a couple of
fish on there, like I get it, and then they're
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they're off, like eating snacks or were playing with their friends.
And my oldest is just like a germinated like all
those hats that are like I love him, respect all
human beings, but if you were a fish, I will
take you from your family. And like that's kind of
his energy, Like he loves fish. He's like energy. Is
(09:11):
he trying to break up fish family? He's he's just NonStop.
He's not happy unless he's got a fish on his line, like.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Man, he's a machine. Oh ship.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, but he can't get on the pro circuit. So
he caught so many fish?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Is he like also asking to go Like is he
like can yah?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wow? Wow, there's gotta be zeitgang out here that could
hook it up. Bro. I know, I know one of
y'all are some deep sea fish fucking freaks. Man, take
us on this.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
There's a lot of downtime for podcasts if you're a
deep sea captain.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah. Yeah, but I was gonna like we were.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We were only out from like seven to one. Yeah,
half Dad, I come home. It was it was the
type of tiredness that has more income and with being
drunk than being like sleepy. I was like I was wrecked.
And so I'm like trying to puzzle out why I'm
(10:09):
always so tired after being on the sea for more
than a couple hours. And I'm also noticing that the
ground is still like rocking under me. And it occurred
to me, like there are workout classes in Los Angeles.
I'm assuming they're everywhere where people pay to like stand
on an unstable surface.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What do you mean boards?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
No, like the they have like plates that you stand
on that like move you around so that you can
work around. But I think the logic is that it
strengthens your courmonth, like you're working out in a weird way,
like your body. The workout people are like body muscle
confusion and your body ship out of your body, so
(10:52):
it doesn't know what happened to it. But I feel
like that's what I'm feeling when I call it. It's
like a six hour long just your body's just trying
to fucking stay upright for so long. That's my theory.
I don't know if you have people, And I did
do some like googling, and it's like that's one of
(11:13):
the explanations. The other ones were like U boat exhaust
and being out in the sun. But this was a
mostly overcast day and I only spent like fifteen minutes
huffing direct fumes from the from the engine.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I feel like, probably the lack of stability. Oh
is that what's I was like, what's on your face?
I think you so soot all over your cheek? No,
that's the exhaust.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, no, the circle that goes from under my eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah yeah, unders again yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So you need to you need to like get something
that will just put it all directly.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, yeah, you're I think you must have used it,
toul because you don't have the same burn marks from
the heat from the exhaust pipe ring on your face.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, I've got to learn down to us. Yeah,
it's good ship though.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Just like, hey, where's your dad's he's over by the
exhaust again. I suck. Every time you bring it up.
I always think of how shit I was at fishing
as a kid. I don't know why. If it does
it require skill? No?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, I mean what it requires.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They's just fucking hate me, Jack. I hate fucking going dad.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean if you're going and other people are catching
fish on the boat at the same time as you, like,
that's basically catching my fish. Yeah, they're they're just catching
you or fish do to spite you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I'm not joking. I went on like two deep sea
fishing like kind of trips, like with like a kid,
the kids from my like when I played hockey, which
is like because I was always doing like weird shit
I would never do. But with these kids I played
on hockey with, They're like, hey, we're going out deep.
So I'm like, okay, twice bro, I didn't catch shit?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Did everybody else cut?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And I was like that ship that was like Trump
at the fucking White House correspondence dinner. I was like, Okay,
y'all think it's a fucking game. Huh to it personally? Yeah,
And I took that personally, and I took that personally,
and you know what I did never fished again. So
it's not like I really realized my power after that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
There is a weird like superstitious like kind of some
people are lucky with fishing, some people aren't. Like I
had a similar thing, Like I think the thing that
got me on fishing is when I was in uh preschool,
there was a summer camp. There's a summer camp where
we in Wheeling, West Virginia where we went down to
those like muddy Wheeling River and we're just like throwing
(13:30):
in hooks without like that. Some people were putting little
bread on it. And I caught a fish without anything
on the hook, and I was immediately like I got it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, you've got a man.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And then my yeah, my oldest has just insane good
fishing luck. Just every every time I turned around to
go with him and I'll be like, give me that
fucking pull. He gets it the thing where, you know,
because I'll put it down and then hand it to
him and then like instead of doing that, You're.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like, hey, give me that shit, I caught it. You
see this dad, Your dad's not here. I'm sorry to
see his Jack.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What is something Miles you think is overrated?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Uh? Just again, rage bait was a term of the
year and the art. It's rage bait articles that are
so fucking stupid that I've just like because right now
we're in the era of like year end lists, and
there's so many lists that feel like they are just
like putting shit or like putting shit on there or
(14:34):
omitting things to get into the discourse and get engagement,
and it's like so disingenuous. Like you'll see like lists
put like fucking not put Sinners on there, but put
some other stupid fucking movie on there, just so people go,
how is Sinners not on that list? Or like there
was like a rap like a top rap album's list
(14:55):
that was like completely fucking stupid, and they were placing
things above like Wu Tang Clan people like the shit
who like you know, like the kind of ship that
used to get us baby used to be. Yeah that
was that was butter for a while.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah that was.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But this chance the rapper album over thirty six.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Chambers and it's the wedding one, it's the.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Wife. But I think there's something. It's it's just so
fucking obvious and to the point now that it's really damaging,
because yeah, man, we're we're completely rearranging society around engagement,
and it's making people less intelligent because the least intelligent
takes are being put out there for the sake of engagement.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yes and no, and they're winning, they're succeeding.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Like it used to be, like damn, I like this
person's takes, like this person has Like I like, what
the fuck they're on Now It's now like the people
that you're gonna look up to are are gonna make
you look so stupid or just normalize these kinds of
dumb takes because I think some people like might see
it for what it is, and other people might be like, oh,
this is actually interesting and now I'm going to be
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thoughtlessly contrarian for the sake of quote unquote engagement. So
it's a net loss for humanity. And I'm just like,
there's just like so many obvious rage baby year end
lists now that I'm just my heartaches for the people
who actually take the time to like think about things
and and and and articulate it rather than taking the
short road and being like, eh, man, just say some
(16:27):
shit that is going to come off wild inflammatory, and
then you get your name out there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The wronger you are, the better the better it does, right,
I mean, which I'm sure like there's you look back
and like it's not always great journalism and throughout history,
but there, Yeah, like they had inflammatory shit on the
front page of like tabloids. But then I don't know
that that does seem to be the main currency.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, because everything is so algorithmic, Like it's it's not
just articles, it's it's it's social media content, it's all
of it. It's just early that's we're rearranging everything too.
Can you look if I can't inspire.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You see what's like motherfuckers are saying.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's like the human urge, Like when you can't
when you realize you don't have the power or skill
to create, then the next most alluring option is destruction
because you can't create. So like the rage bait is
firmly in that sort of mindset of like, well, I
can't create, so I will destroy by doing inflammatory takes. Anyway. Yeah,
the second I get like the second I get a
(17:29):
hint of it, I'm like, fuck, oh, this is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh, they're just trying to They're just trying
to get me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
It's like a bad guy movie, just like poking someone's chest.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah right, don't do it right. Watch Miracle on thirty
fourth Street yesterday, I was like, don't do it? S
the new the mar Wilson one. Oh, shout out Marl Wilson.
It's fine, it's pretty good. I just didn't like it
because I'm like, I don't give a shit about Santa
being real or not real, right, I don't even fucking
car dude, as long as the presence are fucking real,
(18:02):
that's it. I watched.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I made my kids watch both Miracle on thirty four
Street and The Santa Claus this weekend for upcoming Santa
Icons episode.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
And did they like the Santa Claus? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I think so. They sat through both of them, so
damn rough Man.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
The Santa Claus is not not my favorite. Well, it's
one of those things where it's purportedly seems like it's
for children, but it was written by like an unhinged
divorce a yes, and what are you saying about people?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Most of the like observational stuff is like and then
divorced dads are at Denny's on Christmas night night.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Who's a fucking greedy Sorry, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All right. My overrated is just lead singers who do
charades hand gestures. I was reminded of watching the David
Byrne Tiny Desk concert and noticing how like great he is,
how much he doesn't do this. He like has his
own weird energies kind of dancing and interacting with the
backup singers. I want to see an indie rock band
(19:09):
I'm gonna leave unnamed, and their singer was like like
when he would sing the word money, he would do
a money hand gesture with his fingers, and like when
he would refer to himself, he would like point at himself.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's just like.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's just a weird affectation that I was. I don't know, man,
it just like makes the whole thing feel so much
stupider than it felt before. It's like an act him out,
Like that's not what I came here for. I didn't
come here to see you.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like I feel like yeah, because like uh oh, if
you have a if you're at a mic stand, because
rappers like doing. Rappers are very they like to just
they're just to keep it, you know what I mean.
But I guess too, And that makes sense because that's
kind of the swag of like rapping, whereas like rock,
you're used to just seeing a guy like two hand
clutch the mic and just belt out the lyrics kind
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of a thing. So something with that energy. I think
that's where hip hop culture has bled into. They're like,
let me let me sauce up my singing.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, wrap. They're good at it, and it like works
with the rhythm of the performance, whereas like, I don't know,
with some with some like performance is just too slow
and so it just seems like very much like childlike
petty cake type ship.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think it's like, yeah, I think when people do that,
they're insecure that they're not dancing right like that.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So let me do it. Let me put a little flavor.
This means money, this means square, this means check, this
means crystal, Like just just's something to do.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It gives you some business, but it's just like the
worst business to do, just like take up smoking or something.
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's the same way like DJ's when you see DJ Set's,
like there's a lot of knob twisting. That's pretty inconsequential. Yeah,
but you got it. You gotta be performing. You gotta performing.
We're not doing something. Got to keep the eyes on.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You have like a a real humpy bassist who's like.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Have you seen Zach Fox DJ No, He's pretty minimal,
Like he's purely like I already know what I'm gonna
how I'm gonna mix this in. I'm just he's like,
I don't need to do a ton of performing like
some of his early stuff. He's just kind of vibing along,
which I really like because everyone's so busy. But anyway,
gotta gotta justify the paycheck.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Us here money. You're gonna make a heart with my fingers.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And you, I'm pointing at you. Y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna
come back. We're gonna talk about the Golden Globe nominations.
Big snub for Ben Shapiro, for us, for US as well.
Thanks mom, We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back,
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and the Globes nominees are just announced, one battle after another,
leading with nine nominations. I think coming in a lot
of people were expecting that one to do pretty well.
Sentimental Value, which is a foreign film or maybe no,
I guess it's not a foreign film, but it's by
the guy made Worst Person in the World a few
(22:17):
years ago, which was really good. I haven't seen it yet.
And then sentimental Value in Sinners I think are tied
in second for the most noms. Okay, in line with expectations.
The TV category I don't even know anymore. Man White
Lotus earned six nominations. That was the only show that
I watched from beginning to end. I don't know, do
(22:38):
they are they not allowed to watch the last episode
when they're making these nominations.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But it's like lazy. It's just sort of like one
of those things where it's like, yeah, off the strength
of the other ones.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, yeah, those are good. I mean, there are some
great performances in there, so but I did not but Landing.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I think we were all watching it out of habit.
Basically we're like, yeah, I mean it's White Lotus, but fine, yeah,
tooth acting is right back.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, some good tooth actings sit in there, which they
still refuse to make its own category one day.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I mean, look, the Golden Globes have been malleable. You know,
they did the like what if you did? Like a
box office award and even fucking Podcast of the Year, which.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I know podcast real quick. On more snubs, Sidney Sweeney
wasn't nominated for that boxing movie that no one saw.
Wicked for Good wasn't nominated in the Best Comedy or
Musical category.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't know what to make of that. Act feels
like they just forgot.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It was like, I don't know, this is like exactly
our shit, but yeah, yeah, box office success it was.
It was nominated in that weird cinematica box office achievement
category that nobody really understands. But those movies are Avatar,
Fire and Ash, which hasn't come out yet, F one
(24:05):
K Pop, Demon Hunters, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning Centers, Weapons,
Wicked for Good, Zutopia, which feels like, I don't know Zutopia.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Too, sorry, it would be weird to fit to the
original Zutopia. Can you give out an award for cinematic
and box office achievement without the box office performance being
something to consider?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
That's a great question, Miles. Nobody, nobody, nobody knows. This
is more art than science.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Box Off Achievement Achievement Avatar fire Nash, which didn't come
out yet.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Right, They're just like this one's going to do good though, right, Yeah, look.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You got to get Jimmy. Jimmy got to give Jimmy
C his flowers, Baby, jim C.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Don't miss. But this was as you mentioned, first year
that the Golden Globes is awarding podcasts. They did have
a short list of nominees. I think they had like
twenty five nominees, and Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, and Ben
Shapiro were on there. And of those, the six nominees
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included none of them a clean sweep of no right
wing ship as there was no politics podcast unless you
count what's it called First Up, NPRS up first. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
got some searing takes on that. It's interesting they went
nprs Up first over New York Times The Daily. But
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first it's just there, like, I don't know, here's some
shit that's going on today. It's more it's more like
us without talking about how many Krispy Kreme is, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
The pot pod Save America was also eligible, I think
as another one, and anything in Candice Owen's show was
also eligible. But good to know that the elderly people
in the HFPA and their new members were smart enough
to be like, they're not Ben Shapiro. Maybe not, dude,
Maybe not do that one.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Call you with Dex Shepherd. Good hang with Amy Poehler.
The Mel Robbins podcast, mprs up first and uh something
called SmartLess.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Ye will learn at Jason Baby very much, the Big Ones. Yeah,
it's it's the Oh you want to listen to a
podcast starter pack?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly, and for good reason. There's some good
shit in there.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
No, Jack, I'm hating on all this bullshit. This is bullshit. Okay,
aout all the real heads. My freaking mom can vote
in these and how the fuck are we not here? Mom?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
To be eligible, you have to be among the top
twenty five shows out there. I'm sorry. Number one seventeen
on the news charts isn't good enough. I do. She
was always against me though for the rest she was
yes fucked up.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She couldn't tell her friends to subscribe enough to get
us into the top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Jack, I've been working on them for years, years. Man.
Nikki Glazer is hosting though again.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
This year, so nicky late did a great job last year. Yeah,
the big loser here Ben Shapiro, who yeah, spent even
without so much money for a FYC. This is the
thing you see all over LA is like for your consideration,
and some of these are embarrassing. Some of the for
(27:30):
your consideration campaigns are like, yo, nobody, nobody thinks that.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
This is embarrassing because ninety nine percent of the members
don't live in New York City, So who the fuck
is going to see this except for your fucking ego?
Or you look, we got you to this for you?
That ain't you?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And shit, Ben Shapiro's ass took over Times Square with
just five different pictures of him looking like he They
they've like basically recreated. They must have paid somebody who does,
like GQ photo shoots, like a ton of money because
they're just like, he's just like a normal cool guy.
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Look at him wearing a cool jean jacket, a swede jacket.
Would he wear swayed if he was backwards? Ideologically? I
don't think would he lean against this wall all relaxed
when you wear what do you wear?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Prada shades? If he were an abomination of a person, No.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It really feels like all all over there. There was
even a photo shoot where he's like in his suit
but like his hair's kind of messy and he's like
leaning against a wall in a like dirty boxing gym,
which like it really feels like they were like, what
this is this is our chance to watch Ben into
the mainstream. Yeah, totally and did not take, which I'm
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sure he'll have some interesting takes on.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Curious you did you look at the the quotes for
the four year Golden Globes consideration sort of that we
have here in the dock. First one, okay, so there's
one that says a very nice guy, Joe Rogan a
foe of extraordinary potential agility, which said the Washington Post,
and it says number one rap digital song sales iTunes?
(29:15):
What the fuck is this is?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
This?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Is this like a joke ting number one rap digital?
What is that? The other Ones makes a conservative fire brand,
number one conservative podcast in America? Did he have a
rap song that? What number one?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I mean that would be amazing if like he was
like used as a like on Ones that's DNA when
he has like that and the Fox News quote that
he's like rapping over but like.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You're talking about Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. He did have
a song with Tom McDonald. I do remember him having
a rap song with Tom McDonald. If you didn't hear that.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh, I think we covered it. Actually it does ring
a bell. He did have a rap song that did happen.
And then one just says, quote quote not bad. Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think Nicki Minaj did comment on that rap song
and said it wasn't bad. I think, yeah, I think
that's what they're talking about. But he but he but
he hated WAP. How How could how could he?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How could you say those things about WAP and then
have Nicki Minaj, Well, Nicki Minaj's he didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hate Wap Miles. He was confused by what concerned he was.
He was concerned about hyper that they might have a
medical condition because their pussy got wet.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Because I've never I don't see this at home.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
He's never idea that that happened. The greatest cell phone
of all time, which is crazy. Do you know did
any I don't see this mentioned anywhere. Did any of
his movies get nominated in the movie categories?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
No? Oh, no, damn, Yeah, what I wonder what even
the state of Daily Wire Plus or whatever the fuck
they were doing is. Remember that was like, oh there,
they were really Wire Studio for fucking twenty twenty five.
With the new regime.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
All right, let's talk about very impactful entertainment industry news,
which is that Netflix is planning to buy Warner Brothers.
Of the three different terrible options as we were reviewing
the different people who were throwing their hat in the
ring to purchase Warner Brothers Studios, the worst option has
(31:26):
won out, and that is Netflix.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
They or have they won out?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
So they won the initial bid, like the Warner Brothers
accepted their bid right, which would be selling to the
streamer for seventy two billion dollars, a deal value to
eighty two point seven billion dollars. I don't know what
the fuck the difference between those two numbers is.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But what's ten billion jack?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You know in this aside from David Zaslov's yacht salesman. Yeah,
I can't imagine there is anyone who's happy about this
other that literally, other than the mogul our best.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Demonic consolidation at the highest order.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, the gills in the unions were all just like
the outcome would eliminate jobs, push down wages, worse in
conditions for all entertainment workers, race prices for consumers, reduce
the volume and diversity of content for all viewers. Yeah,
there was a letter written by anonymous Hollywood A listers
that weren't Congress about a quote potential economic institutional meltdown
(32:28):
in Hollywood if Netflix succeeds in its efforts to acquire
Warner Brothers Discovery. The big takeaway here though, is that
like Netflix doesn't just like not put a lot of
movies in theaters. It seems like they're trying to kill
Oh yeah, full frontal the tee going, Yeah, they're like
they view people every time a movie does well at
(32:50):
the box office, whether it's a Netflix movie or not,
they view that as a loss for them. Yeah, they
want to kill all forms of entertainment that aren't sitting
in bed with your phone five inches from your face,
just like watching shit by yourself without anybody around. Like
that's that's what they want, right. The quotes coming from
(33:12):
Ted Sarandas I assumed that Ted Saranda's the CEO of
Netflix or whatever president one of those the main guy
at Netflix. I assumed he would be in damage control
mode where he's like, guys, we I love going to
the movie theater.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The movie theater, you mean like a when like a
conservative Supreme Court nominee is going through the confermation like
I thought, of course, I want to protect the sanctity
of marriage, and of course Roe V. Wade is settled
long Court.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Day after the news broke, he said that he expects
to release Warner Brothers movies in theaters, but said the
long exclusive windows are not consumer friendly, and I just
want to mention the latest Knives Out movie in the
context of what he's saying there, because the first Knives
Out movie, we earned three hundred and thirteen million.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Dollars at the box office. Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The second one came out in the pandemic. A lot
of people saw it, but it didn't you know, do
well of the box office movies are back, People are
going to the theater. They could have put this out.
Somebody did an analysis. A box office expert was like,
had they just put this out and actually marketed it
as like a full theatrical run, we think it would
(34:27):
have made about two hundred and seventy five million dollars
worldwiow like I'm I'm a movie fan. I enjoy the
first two movies. I barely realized this movie was in theaters.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Right, right, Well, that's two hundred and seventy five dollars
they would have had to share with the.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Movie theaters, right, And it's just again they they don't
give a fuck, Like they would rather lose that money
and make it so that people don't think about going
to the movies. They think about just like staying home
and watching Netflix. They're pulling the oxygen out of the room.
They just don't want it to or.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It feels like another like fundamental misread of culture from
C suite people again, Yes, where they think that this
is what everyone wants, that no one wants to go
to the movie theaters anymore. One of the big things
is affordability that would make people go into the movies
a lot easier. Again, but people aren't being like, I
fucking hate the movie theater. If anything, you hate what
(35:21):
it costs to go to the movie theater. But still
the act of the whole thing of going to the movies,
there is still a bit of magic in that for people.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, so being around other people, we don't do that anymore.
Like this is what are one the one thing?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
When's the last time you laughed in a room full
of seven or more people all together? Like that's kind
of what you get. And I think these I think
for them, they just look at how profitable it is
and figure that's what people want.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
You remember when like there's the CEO who got caught
cheating or like the CEO who stole that kid's hat
at the tennis match, and like the first statements that
were released by them were like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You, I'm allowed to cheat whenever I want.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm gonna sue you for even saying that I cheated,
like and it was like, you know, these were internet
trolls writing fake statements for the like that's what this
feels like. It's just like the worst case scenario. Initial
statement is just like yeah, I just think that they
shouldn't like really have to be.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
In consumer friendly. No, expensive theater costs are consumer friend.
It's not the idea of going right. And I think
that's what they're trying to just use that language for
people like, oh, it's better for me if I don't
do a thing that I like think.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You ted some things that he said in the last
year about the difference between Netflix and movie theaters. Like
it just it's clear. It's like a fucking Cruella Deville
whose main thing is hating movie theater. Like that, that's
what it feels like. Like last year, he told The
New York Times that Barbie and Oppenheimer would have been
just as big on Netflix as they were in theaters.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'll get the exactly not true.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's so obviously not true. That it was a like
cultural event and everybody was going out and enjoying the
experience of like going to the movies together. That was
what that entire thing was about.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like they ousted from the C suite for saying something
like such a wild statement. Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
In another interview, he said, there's no reason to believe
that the movie itself is better at any size of
screen for all people. My son's an editor. He is
twenty eight years old, and he watched Lawrence of Arabia
on his phone.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
He like, first of all, way to just throw your
son under the fucking butt. Yeah, my son works in film.
He's a fucking idiot. He doesn't respect the art. Got
him a job at Netflix, right, I mean, he's gonna
be fine. But what the interviewer says, Oh no, and
then he says, but it is just an interesting thing.
At every new development of technology, there's wins for the audience.
(37:58):
Is that what development of technology has been these past years?
Jack names for the audience.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Name like three Netflix films that are going to stay
with you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Exactly, Miles, Miles, Exactly. I got you know what I mean?
I got I've got the irrely because of the way
that Robert de Niro, like when they age him down
but he's still in an old man's body. I think
about that all the time because I sometimes feel that way.
I'm like, there, they can all see the way I'm
lumbering around.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I just think there is a different kind I think.
And look, Netflix has these huge things like Stranger Things
or Squid Game where people watch it and it sort
of like kind of becomes I don't know it just
like it's it's it's very it's like unintentional almost because
it's just there, like you can watch it because it's
on and people are talking about it. Going to see
(38:52):
a film is so much different and engages a different
part of your brain that I think for him to
be like, I don't know, my kid watched a movie
on his phone and then this other thing and then people,
and based on watch time data, I'm seeing it could
be just as big you're fundamentally missing, like how just
like the sort of the wow, the spectacle of it. Yeah,
and thinking that's the same thing. I don't know. I
(39:15):
mean like and I get and I and I look.
I don't get me wrong. I love when I can
watch a movie that I missed in the theater. But
also it's because no one leaves fucking movies in the
theater long enough where it's like, hey, you got two weeks,
three weeks to see this shit, yeah, and then it's
off to streaming.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
They send an email to subscribers announcing the Warner Brothers deal,
referencing popular franchise like Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, and Casablanca.
So we might see like a Stranger Things finale where
like cgi Humphrey Bogart comes in, he'll be sick. So
and then this is like, I guess good news for
like a you know, as somebody feels like the Netflix
(39:53):
takeovers the worst case scenario, Paramount has come in and
launched a hostile takeover David Ellison is basically going directly
to shareholders and being like, this.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Will ruin Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Let me take it over, and it'll be better for
the entertainment industry and better for the value of this company.
And because David Ellison is Trump's buddy, yeah, Trump's now
suggesting the Netflix Warner merger could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
But it's just really really now for what reason? Duh?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You know, because my friend said, it's not just.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
They bought everything right now, They're they're owning everything right now.
And okay, okay, ok okay, because I know I think
Netflix wasn't gonna buy CNN, like they were more interested
in like the theatrical properties and things like that, whereas
like Paramount's like, yeah, we'll take the news too, well,
we will create just one mind, one take on how
things are going for people to consume through the news. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
(40:51):
es yes yes yeah. They're like, if you think we
can't ruin Casablanca, just wait as hold on to your boots.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
But yeah, in case you weren't vince yet. They were
living in a shitty version of the Gilded Age where
people were all like relying on the beneficence of like
ultra wealthy assholes to fix society. Like we're now being
forced to root for Trump Ellison team Trump Ellison, to
say theatrical movie going, because laws of monopoly and anti
(41:20):
trust protections and shit like that are so toothless that
they're only enforced when they can like make one of
the president's friends richer.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, and where the president be like, can you change
the discourse around how we talk about everything happening? Yeah, yeah, great,
let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And this was big. Yeah, this this made me stand up,
put my hand over my heart and say the pledge
of allegiance. Yeah, our president one the coveted FIFA piece awar.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yes, yes, first ever, first of its kind.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
That which makes it even more better. It's the first
of its gun.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's most better, actually one the first one. The statuette
itself looks like a tortured metaphor for like the age
we live in, where like these contorted hands are like
trying to grasp at a world that used to be
or something.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, there's disembodied hands reaching up from hell, is how
I'm picturing it, trying to grab the earth the hands
are really big to the earth.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
In my mind, the hands were the downtrodden trying to participate.
But now that you think about it, it's demons from
hell coming from the subterranean realm and trying to drag
the earth down.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That's what I'm getting Miles. Yeah, yeah, demons from hell.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It's a real test. I really encourage you. Looked up too.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
They look like the hands from the cover of Run
the Jewels albums.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, they're a little snarled. But anyway, So this
all happened on Friday because the World Cup draw took place.
This is where they pick all the names out of
the hat and say these are the teams that are
gonna play.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Each other in the World Cup. It was who's on
the World Cup team?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Names? Did you get on?
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
No, No, I didn't get drafted this year. Next time
neck hopefully, hopefully. But it was wild. There's like Lauren
Hill performed lost Ones. I was like, Lauren, you got
Lauren Hill to show up on time. Wayne Gretzky sounded
like he had taken too many pucks to the head.
Is He struggled to say names like Curasow and Macedonia
and to Trump's light like you said, he won the
(43:42):
first ever FIFA Piece award and Johnny Infantino, the guy
who runs fucking FIFA. What a malignant scumbag, dude. This
guy knows. This is what he said. Quote, this is
your prize, This is your peace prize. There is also
a beautiful metal for you that you can wear everywhere
you want to go. Like you're talking to an incapacitated
(44:05):
child and he's wearing full metal you can wear you
want to go. That ship might as well be a
your place, like yogurt foil top on a string and
he's like, thank you, this is mine, my medal, okay,
and this gold piece is for me. FIFA said the
prize is for quote individuals who help unite people in
peace through unwavering commitment and special actions, although they have
(44:27):
not disclosed details of the selection process.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Selection process is so funny, Like I like the journalists
being like, so, could you just like give us an
idea of the field that.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
You were h Yeah, yeah, it was one narcissistic freak
who gets so excited at the sight of gold objects
that look, guys, we're playing.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Them, let's do any He's dumb. He's a fuck with Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
When Trump got the word, he called it, quote, one
of the great honors of my life. Yes, and then
he said, I've saved millions and million of lives. The
Congo is an example, over ten million people killed and
it was heading for another ten million very quickly. India
and Pakistan. So many different wars we were able to
end and in some cases just before they started.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
You'll have to trust me. You'll have to trust me
that I stopped them exactly probably me. I trust my
my generals that I stopped them, and you have to
trust me.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yep. Then he gave props to Infantino for setting new
records on ticket sales, and then he said, quote, the
world is a safer place now. Where the hottest country
anywhere in the world. Okay, So anyway, this dude is
again so incapacitated right now. Yeah, it's clear to everyone
(45:43):
that all you need to get Trump to agree to
a proposal is just preface the ask with the presentation
of some golden object. Yeah, and you're good. Like everyone's
doing it now and it makes sense to this point.
I was talking to Jamuel Johnson, We're just joking. I
was like, pretty soon the bars don't get so low.
They're gonna give him like the plastic ship. From that
(46:04):
you get a chuck e cheese for like one ticket,
yeah you know, and just spray painted gold like hed.
Someone's gonna give him like a plastic spider ring and
be like here you go, sir, this is it now,
can you This.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Is your Dakota ring? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
What is this spider yep? And it's gold, sir, Wow wow, wow, wow,
this is great. I saved many lives with this ring.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
A lot of people don't realize one of the most
it's one of the great moments of my life. Is
so funny.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
And even the way Infantino says it, this is your prize,
this is your piece, like he's walking this nile guy. Yeah,
just right along the path to the ending.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Right there is also a beautiful metal for you that
you can wear everywhere you want to go to go
like you're talking selling the Yeah, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Wear Frankenstein. You can wear your Frankenstein costume anywhere you
want to go. Honey, wow, wow, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
I's just gonna say four year olds being sold on
their Halloween costume.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
You look so strong in it, you look so good.
And this is mine. Yes, this is your Frankenstein costume,
and it's just for you. Nobody else has it. It's beautiful,
all right.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Well, that's that's where we're at. Those are some of
the stories that are trending. We are back tomorrow with
a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be
kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your
vaccines while you still can't get your flu shots. Don't
do nothing about white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
We will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. The Daily
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