August 28, 2025 • 58 mins
In episode 1922, Jack and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by comedian and host of Never Seen It, Kyle Ayers, to discuss… Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce Are Getting Married, When It Comes To Wind Power... Trump Isn’t As Stupid As He Acts and more!
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- RFK Jr. slammed for claiming windmills kill whales after he is accused of chopping one's head off
- RFK JR: Wind is the most expensive energy. They have killed 160 whales in the last two years.
- Trump falsely claims wind turbines lead to whale deaths by making them ‘batty’
- Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim that wind turbines kill whales
- Donald Trump sends wind farm complaint to Alex Salmond
- How Trump's loathing for wind turbines started with a Scottish court battle
- Trump Organisation wind farm advert 'misleading'
- The story of Donald Trump’s feud with his one true nemesis: Windmills
- Canceled wind project puts thousands of jobs at risk
- Trump Slams the Brakes on US Wind and Solar Growth
- Trump’s crusade against wind power is throwing an industry into turmoil
- States vow to fight Trump official’s stop-work order on offshore wind farm
- Big oil spent $445m in last election cycle to influence Trump and Congress, report says
- Candidate Trump Promised Oil Executives a Windfall. Now, They’re Getting It.
- Unmasking Dark Money: How Fossil Fuel Interests Can Undermine Clean Energy Progress
- The Oil and Gas Industry Is Behind Offshore Wind Misinformation
- The impact of climate change on whales
- Update on Greece: Oil exploration linked to stranding of protected whales off Corfu
- Marine Life: The Casualties of Offshore Drilling
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The first time I ever got head shots in la.
First of all, I was in a van. Classic.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Second of all.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Second of all, are we defining his head shots here?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah? I knew the photographer to yell at me in
order for me to smile, And I'm like, this is
unlocked a lot about my childhood, like smile and to
do like a natural laugh unless they started like hilarious.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, wow, you gotta have him be mean to you
in the van.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, if someone was nice to you in a van,
that would be creepy.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's suspicious.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I was just listening to something. Oh is a
photographer who was working with Zora and Momdani for the
cover shoot of I Think he like a New York
magazine profile, and like he was like too uptight because
he's like a normal person and he's like the fuck,
what am I doing? I'm gonna be on the cover
(01:02):
of a magazine that's weird. And so the photographer was like,
and so I did this thing that works for me
where I showed him a magic trick and it like
disarmed him and enough to like get him to smile.
Like a weird what is that like runs around?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He's like.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Jumps through a window, like his outline is in the
window like a Looney Tune leaving.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
They're like, now that you relax, Hello the Internet, and
welcome to season four oh three, Episode four of der
Nay Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we
take a deep dive into america shared consciousness. And it's Thursday,
August twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. I want to say
April for some reason, it's August still apparently. My name's
Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be
joined in our second seat by a hilarious stand up comedian, writer,
(02:06):
actor improviser. You can catch her at the monthly Facial
Recognition comedy show, which he also produces. Check the footnotes it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is I told you once Miles moved into his new place,
I was going to burn that ship down.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's what I did it again.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Flick flick, flick flick with my len.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
This is a line of joking that a mere year
after you actually burned his house down.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I ever saw burning Miles's house.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We're doing this episode. You're coming to us from Arkham Asylum,
where you're I don't know why we keep having her
back on in a spring, and I'll do it again again.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I put Miles Is, I put Miles's house on a boat,
and I said, you can either you can sake the boat.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, first save Maggie Gillenhaul. Yeah, and yeah, he had
to make up his mind. It's wonderful to see you.
Oh my gosh, Chicago. See Chicago and August one of
my favorite locations to be anywhere, Great anytime, great overlap
of time and space, continuum.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Every time I come to Chicago, I'm like, Chicago's the
best because I never come here during the winter, so
it's just untouched in my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's beautiful, a beautiful place with temperate climbs where everybody's
always outdoors day drinking and happy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The river's apparently really clean right now?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think they're having some sort of event where people
are going to swim in it. So it seems like
they were finally like, let's maybe clean it, let's clean
shut up, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like a reverse Saint Patti's Day, where they're like, instead
of dying it an unnatural color, let's see like if
we could just like make it clean, like make it
like water.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, yeah, what what is okay? So New York
has Santa Con, Chicago has the Saint Patti's Day stuff
for like a public drunken event. What if Ellie's cannot
be Coachella. I'll be so upset if it's coach Ella.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, New York has so much. New York has
the US Open currently, which is a quietly a public
drunken event.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm talking loud and sloppy.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What do we got? It's getting there. I'll tell you what.
These these tennis commentators can't believe how drunk and.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Rude everybody is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Are you serious? Talking about it? A lot they've been.
I mean it's John McEnroe, famously loud and rude person.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But that got them into so many movies.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They keep Yeah, they keep showing fans with like stacked
up cups. They're like these souvenir cups that you can
only get by ordering like a tumbler love vodka.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Like the athletes aren't the only athletes.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's right. Yeah, Anyways, I love that New York has
Santa Con. That that's like one of the things that
you give New York. Paula Vey We're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat. Wonderful having you. Thank you
so much for filling him for Miles while he is
doing something that.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Is not that's not what's happening. He is on a
sign again. Paully thrilled to be joined in their third
seat by very funny stand up comedium writer, actor, producer,
creator of boast Rattle, The Compliment Contest and Never Seen It,
a podcast where famous comedians, including one Jacuse Neil rewrite
(05:41):
classic movies they've never seen Can and Ought to go
stream his special happiness Welcome back to the show, the
hilarious Kyle.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Is good to be here. It is good to be
here and sound like Blake Wexler. I'm I love every
time I come where people are like sounded like Blake,
and I'm going to take that as a compliment. I
thought it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They don't even have a neutral like that's like the
neutral feedback.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They don't even tag me, they don't they tag Blake.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
They're like to start saying slurs, then just.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Do it. I think if the one thing Miles would
be most disappointed in his house burning down again would
be that yet again in a Batman movie, the Joker
was the villain. I think that that he was just
like I wish they would just use a different villain.
I think it would just please with someone else. I've
also been enjoying the US Open drunk people. I think
it's very fun.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
We used to do this thing when I was a
kid where if I went to a Royals game, can.
I grew up in Kansas City, my dad and I
would we would stay after the game and collect collectible
cups that were left behind.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You can.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean we still have dozens of If anyone needs
a cup with on hell Baroa on the side, I
know Rookie of the Year campaign for on hell Barroa.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
There's so someone who has like us, who has an
empty spot on their shelf.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah on hell Berrowa's parents.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I have the US opened Greg Goose cup.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I do. Oh there you go there not drunk.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
But also there's a guy I think his last name
is Caspar Rude who's like this nineteen year old tennis
player who is being interviewed and they were like, what
do you think of New York? And he was like, uh,
to be honest with you, like everywhere smells like weed,
and they like started laughing and he's like, no, seriously,
it's like really bad. And I was like, all right,
(07:33):
I'm I have a I have a person to root against,
fucking Nerda to root against. I did say fucking nerd outlet.
My wife was watching it the video. I said fucking
Nerd and she goes, that's exactly the first comment under
the video. Just America collectively was like, fucking Nerd.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But yeah, yeah, don't root for the cop.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, that's like what my dad says when he when
he comes to La He's like, it smells like marijuana everywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But he says it approvingly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
My dad says it with sunglasses on and like a rosta.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Hat, turns to camera and says it and gets.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
A big lowers theses. Tell you what I like about Ellen,
smells like weed everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm Marijuanta a little bit for myself the credit.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
All right, Kyle, we are going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. I mean, obviously we want to get your
opinion on the big news of the year. I'd say
probably the biggest news we have of the years. Travis
Kelsey and uh, what's his girlfriend's name again, Taylor Swift
(08:49):
are engaged to be wed. We talked about it on
Trending yesterday. But obviously, Kyle, we want to give you
a chance to talk talk about the show. We're gonna
talk about wind power. Wind power get a bit of
a raw deal from the Trump administration. They're not down
with wind wind power, with wind turbines or as Trump
(09:10):
caused them, windmills. The way Trump is talking about it
and then it's being reacted to, is like he's acting
like he's too dumb to understand. He's like, well, when
the wind's not blown, what happened?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And okay, but that's also how I feel, so please
stop me.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Also, yeah, we'll learn a lot, but basically, it's what
he's doing is straight out of the fossil fuel industry playbook.
All of that plenty more. But first, Kyle, we do
like to get to know our guests a little bit
better and ask you what is something from your search
(09:47):
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I just so this is always kind of a mirror
that you hold up to yourself when you do this segment.
But The last thing I had searched was are there
any laws about headlights? Reddit? So I just simply don't
know if there's any laws about how bright headlights are
allowed to be, is anyone allowed to do anything? Some
of them are so upsettingly bright. And I was just
(10:10):
in North Carolina, which is what made me search this,
because all the headlights there are at all the truck
it's all trucks there, and it seems like people lift
their truck to what I like to call toddler blind
spot inches high, and so every single truck is like
they're like, I just see my truck just high enough
to where I could clip the top of a skull
if it was learning to walk. Predator, Yeah, dodge ram
(10:36):
is actually the two verbs kids need around these trucks.
And so I'm like, I'm in a regular human rental
car being followed by a truck and I cannot see
and I can't and so I didn't search it while driving,
but I do think it's it's actually illegal there to
not be on your phone leader, are there any.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Laws for headlights? And did you find out? Like, are there?
Because I really had the thought just search this, started
searching it clipped a toddler had to stop and pretend
throw my phone out the window so that nobody like.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Toddler sounds like those parents exploiting their kids, clipped a toddler.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I thought that the rule about tail lights was you
aren't allowed to have them or not have them if
you're black, Like I thought that.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Was the thing, right, that's right tail lights.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yes, yeah, well that part of the internet's banned in
North Carolina. The answers to that, you're actually not allowed
to access black part of the internet. Yeah, the part
that could help a minority. It's like ten square in China.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah. It was no definitive answer and honestly hard to
read because I was in a hotel and yet again,
headlights outside were so bright, and what are we doing.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
When you first started this, I was like, oh god.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
We are old, Like yeah, what's the oldest I've ever felt?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but it makes sense. I get really upset when
restaurants are too dim. Now, I'm like, these fucking guys,
they think that we can't read the menu in here.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh I just ate at a restaurant down street from me.
I say, just it was it was a long time ago,
a month ago, but the guy pulled it. It was
so dim The guy pulled his phone out to read
the menu and then just never turned the flashlight off
the rest of his time in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He was trying to help the rest of the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It was like he had a little disco ball on
his table at any given moment that might blind you
or might help you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, you had dinner with my father. That's been nice.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I said, But I have no idea about headlights. I
still don't know the answer. I don't know. Can we
leave that up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
To the states? I wish we wouldn't, because.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I feel like something bad is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I know I don't like telling people I'm either pro
light or pro choice, but.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, headlights are going to only can only be dimmed
by the corpse of a child.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You know, I could put a windshield wiper on there
to get thin hair of it. After you run a
kid over, big wheel out of a truck.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I forgot dark. I forgot how dark your company is?
Like why I forgot?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Every time I see one of these trucks, I'm like,
they're going to run over the kid from the Incredibles
that was in his driveway. That's what this looks like
to me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, I just.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Realized, I know why there aren't like creepy kids on
bikes anymore, Like and they all are like throwbacks to
the eighties.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They've all been wiped out. It's why it takes so
long for them to make a new season a stranger
thing thing. Let the kids grow out of the blind spot.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I know that. Like people always talk about how yeah,
but if it's like super it's kind of like this
arms race that's happening with the size of cars, and
this is like also a part of that where like
the size of cars, the people inside the car are safer,
is everyone outside the car that's like less safe?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Because once again we're talking about and square, they were
very safe in the tank inside the tank, but historically
unsold out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was always worried about the people inside the tank
when I saw that bit, but apparently they were fine.
It was that guy holding his groceries that but yeah,
and then like super bright lights, it's like, well, nobody's
going to run into you, And I was like, well,
they can't see, so they might run into other things.
And it's like not you though, you know what I mean,
Like it just has this like weird prisoner's dilemma, like
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zero something that's happening.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's a trolley problem where you invented the.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Track, right, yeah, problem, except they're like, is there a
way I can run over some of them, back up,
change direction, then run over the one guy, all so
I could try and save a little bit on taxes
in my mind, but.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, trying to research this, like headlights are too bright,
but US experts say they're not bright enough on Reddit
the first one, Brightness isn't the issue. I'm like, all right,
well I've checked out. It's it's actually the direction that
you and my brain shuts down, like I can't. I
don't want to hear that I was brightness.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And I just got a little crazy, little more angry
about the internet.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yes that's right, Kyle. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Okay? So underrated? I wrote down just sort of sitting
and thinking about something and trying to remember it.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, I was in the woods.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I was just in the woods for a week and
I didn't have good service, and I would get into
conversations with people and we would say stuff like huh,
you know what I mean. It was crazy. We'd say
stuff like humh or oh yeah, I think, and then
you just kind of wouldn't really for sure kind of
know entirely for a while. And maybe I have now
ingrained misinformation into my head based off of people on
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drugs at a music festival, But that's fine. It was
kind of nice to just sort of debate a.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Idea that's probably less misinformation than you get now.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh it definitely is, I because there's not it's not
being positively reinforced by robots.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Also, I love that when you said I was just
in the woods. That's how I imagine you always.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Are, like, oh yeah, cearly from a financial standpoint.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
In the woods, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And it was just so fun. It was just so
fun to just be like, yeah, huh, oh, I can't remember.
Let me think and see if I can make my
brain go back right they can.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Sometimes you're trying to like scroll on the bark of
a tree, or like, how do I get into me?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I'm pinching to zoom a tent. It was it was
really a wonderful feeling. I also wrote I.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Caused a phone call before and I was like, wait,
this is a human.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Person, This is a human on the other side. Can
I scrabble to the end of our to our conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, let's scrub. Let's scrub. Do this at one point
five speed?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Do people listen to this at one point five speed?
People told me they listened to never seen it at
one and a half speed. It makes me feel crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That does make me feel crazy. I would prefer not
to know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I cannot listen to things at one and a half speed.
I don't want my podcasters to sound like chipmunks. That's
why I listened to Chipmunk's podcast, you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I already listened to that from my regular.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Pods that their culture not your costume.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Jack, Can we get u DL Alvin? Really slowly? So
people at one and a half speed will hear it
at almost speed. That's what I wrote down. I just
remember I loved it. I love it and thinking about
stuff he owned. Chipmunks that talk to be freaking out
every day. I would probably wish I would probably feel
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entitled to more money if I had three talking animals.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Also, I feel like there'd probably be a lot of
droppings everywhere. They don't talk.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
About Oh, that's true. You know, it implies that they're housebroken,
but chipmunks being housebroken.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Also, if I were Simon and Theodore, I would like
I would hold some resentment behind the name of the group. Yeah, right,
it's a chipmunk and the Chipmunks. We are that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He is also one of those who is Alvin's real father, right,
Alvin and the Chipmunks?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Who are the chipmunks? Well, Alvin have course, right, is
one of the three Michael, It's like Michael Jackson and
the Humans was the name of the Jackson five.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
That's kind of how I viewed it, how.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Everyone sort of took away from it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He also was the most the poorly behaved of the three,
and so you're like giving the starring role, you're rewarding.
You're rewarding that behavior while you have like a hair
trigger temper for anything that they do best.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Honestly, God bless America. That is the American dream.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, he was. It's like a reality star, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, he was like proto the Rizzler in many ways.
All Right, in this essay, I will why did why
did you say that?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Make my knees hurt?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is something you think is overrated, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Uh, those I can cuss right?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh? Hell yes, those fucking you believed not that one.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I hate you believe videos so much? Did I hate them?
I hate them. I can't tell when they're satire or not.
I don't think they're helpful. Maybe I'm wrong and too
closed off and too like pessimistic about it, but ultimately
I'm just like, who's the who's It's just to me,
it's it's like a musical chairs for a bigot. Who's
(19:17):
the fastest bigot? Not even fastest quickest And then they
come in and there every one of them is like, hey,
will you ever change your mind? And that person goes no,
and then they're like, all right, we should talk over
each other for a minute, right, which is pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Have you seen Yasser Lester's thing that he photoshopped him
in the surrounded background and he was like one light
skinned n word versus a bunch of white conservatives. But
they don't know. I got a gun on me.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
See I would watch that. I get so, I really
and it's it's something that I'm not happy to admit
I find unhelpful because maybe it is just me closing
myself off, and it feels like a very sort of like,
I don't know, I feel very pessimistic to be like,
I find these wildly on helpful, and I'm sure I'm
very open to being incorrect about it, but god, I
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have never seen a clip of them and thought this
helped anyone at all, except everyone could sit at home
and be like, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah he told you. Both sides are getting like our
being like yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, launch where everyone feels right.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think like I watched a lot of the like
political commentators online, and I think they helped me with
talking points. So in terms of like understanding talking points
or history, then I'm like okay, like I didn't know
about that or like this other argument or whatever. But
I also think that the people involved are like very
happy to debate, and I'm like unhappy to debate in
(20:40):
that I think in that I think we shouldn't have
to fucking debate human rights, you know what I mean.
So I think that that's the part where I'm like, Okay,
this is a bit self indulgent in that, yeah, like
maybe it'll help more people like understand like the history
of the talking points, like the politics of it all.
But also like we're not super changing any minds on there,
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and it does give these fascists a platform, like now
I know some of the faces of these fascists and
that people.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Are submitting to being fascist. And I find it to
be like you were saying, what we have normalized. I
hate saying stuff like normalized. I hate you know what
I mean, you feel crazy using what we have allowed
to be the normal debate is so far outside of
what is like reasonable or or.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Anything I think Hitler.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Debates right, We're not debating like an allocation of taxes
in a community versus near a city or something where
you're like, I could you know, We're we're allowing equal
footing to such. There is an objectively correct and incorrect
answer that we're allowing people to talk about like there
isn't and it involves people being alive and then someone's
monetizing it, of course, but it just I am maybe
(21:52):
I just want to get booked on one. I don't know,
I'm tired. What's overrated? This YouTube show that won't book me?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They on the clip of this and they're like, Kyle
has been we had to restraint get a restraining order against.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Always were like Wow. We were really unsure of which
side Kyle it was on this whole time.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
He said, please let me. I don't do the work.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's one of the it was one of the things
I felt a little bit guilty about feeling is overrated,
if that makes sense. But I'm just sort of like
it makes me I don't think we are. It doesn't
feel healthy. It doesn't feel healthy, And it feels like
you you make you think something is equal if you
are giving it a platform like that.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, Like it's it feels like it comes from the
same place as people being like, what, we don't need
moderators on Reddit because like this is free speech and
then you just like get shouted down by like thirty
fascists and it's it does. I think it helps my
visual imagination for like what fascists can look like.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, I was gonna say, now, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
They do have glasses like that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm like, it's your local NB barista.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yes, it certainly is.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That has been a jarring discovery is on mute, not
knowing who would believe what has been a tough thing
to come to where it used to be. You know,
on mute, I know who's got a tiki torch.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Right exactly. They all kind of all those tiki torch
guys looked like I would expect people caring tiki torches
to look like, and now they look like Hawaian. Yeah exactly.
They wouldn't appropriate, right, they look they look like the
stars of sitcoms that had like special we go to
Hawaii episodes from like the nineteenth fifty. Yeah, you know, some.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Producer wanted to go on vacation. They're like, we're actually
having a nice story arc here.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But yeah, they hipsters can be fascists too frequently they are,
according to Jubilee videos. That's that's what I've learned.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I also, I also can't tell like I understand what
you mean by like not normalizing it or like wanting
people to have shame. But also like as a brown person,
like I would rather know what people actually believe in
their hearts. And I've had interpersonal experiences where I where
somebody's fully switched up on me and I'm like, Okay,
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so that's in my neighborhood. That's good. Like I would
rather fucking know you know, yeah, sure, do you like
hate watch them?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I have really really tried to cut out of my
life doing that with things, but it's sometimes they really
you know, a certain back and like the one that
was just the guy going yeah, I'm a fascist. Yeah,
you can't avoid that. And so I saw, Yes, I
saw a lot of clip from his clips from his
of the various people, but especially.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Telling him to go leave, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You just sort like I don't know, maybe I just
but I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He kind of has a similar view because he was saying,
like when one of them was like, yeah, I'm a fascist,
he's like stopped king. He's like, I don't have conversations
with fascist.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh you are just liked, but I have. So I
commend the people who can sit there and do that.
And I just I think rationing, Oh, ultimately, I feel
guilt about the amount of consumption you do and what
you cut out and what you're aware of and things
like that all the time. And then I'm also trying
to like take care of myself in a physical and
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manner and you're just like, it's crazy to small picture
and big picture yourself through all of this. It's very
difficult thing to balance.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, I did like and this is probably a bad
thing that this is what gave me, like hope, was
that the guy who he was like, Oh, I don't
debate with fascist fascists. Are you a fascist? And he
was like, yeah, a fascist and like started like ugly
laughing they are. Yeah. He got fired from his job
and like I was like, oh, so there's like still
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some institutions.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And then he started to go fund me where he
raised like a fuck ton of money for being a
fascist that's true, which is like that isn't That's the
thing where I'm like, this is encouraging people to like
try to become like influencers and like make politics content.
And that's that's the part that I'm like, if you
don't fucking know or hear a bad person, just stay out.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like there is something it seems like you that is
a new It's like a quick quicker than going on
a dating reality show or The Bachelor or something is
to go and go viral in a jubilee moment and
launch yourself into something that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I do want to like see what the process is
for like putting those rooms together, Like do where are
they going? Like is it what pool are they fishing from?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You know, they're going to these They're going to these
cities that uh fascists and Republicans love to live in
that they say they.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Hate right, Like, they're also influencers before. Like a lot
of them are like to the other people who sit, Yeah,
a lot of them have either been like worked for Jubilee,
Like some of the people are like picked by Jubilee
multiple times. Some of them are like podcast host or
something like. Some of them are already like they'll take
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Dale Kyle.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
There might be a chance.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, yeah, turned up.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
One guy keeps trying to do movie puns. He keeps
saying the wolf of Wally Street in the Jubilee video
about border culturol. I do appreciate all it is, just
it's such an odd feeling for me, and I don't
know what it is about them that feels bad and
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weird and it feels terrible. Yeah you do, but there
is something to like, it's just like jarring. You just
never thought you would see people be like, yeah, dude,
I'm a fascist. You never think you'd see someone say that.
But then it's like it's so normal now. I guess
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, I'm like, honestly, I think the moment of political
shock I had was the twenty sixteen election and like
I had an experience just like that SNL moment where
like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle were like, yeah, this
is what America is, and all the white people were
like what because I was with like my white friends
and we were all freaked out. And then I like
later in the night, I was like out of mic
where it was like a lot of black people and
they were like laughing and they were like, yeah, this
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is just normal for America. So since then, I haven't
been shocked. Yeah, I haven't been shocked at anything honestly
since then.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, shock is hard to have. Yeah, you just it's
weird that I let myself continually have disappointment.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think that's beautiful though.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Let's disappointed. Yeah, it proves that there's like some hope inside. Yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We got to get to the big story. Travis and
Taylor are married.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, we'll be right.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Back, geez, And we're back. And we're back, folks, We're back, Kyle. Yeah,
do you everybody's talking about it. Paulviy and I talked
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about it on Yesterday's The big news on the internet
is that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey, which if their
names would actually Jason Pargon, a frequent guest on the show, Cracked,
co creator of Mine, pointing out that their names, if
you switch them, would like kind of make more sense,
(29:19):
Like Travis Kelcey is like kind of a sweet sounding
name for like a country singer, and then like Taylor
Swift is such a sick name for a football player. Anyways,
they're getting married, they're going to blend their names together.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Possibly somebody said so. There was some tweet that was like,
after marriage, they'll both be named Taylor Lautner.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That, Yeah, what does a child of the two of them?
Is it just Taylor Latner reincarnated? Do you have any thoughts?
I'll give you the range. Swifties are saying, quote, I
could smoke crack cocaine and it wouldn't make me as
happy as this moment right now. And then the low
end of the spectrum would be that Charlie Kirk is
(30:05):
cautiously optimistic that this is going this is going to
make her a submissive traad wife.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh god, I thought they were already smoking crack cocaine.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, I mean, I look, I'm from Kansas City. It
has all been an exciting time since she entered our lives,
and I'm a huge Chiefs fan, and that's it's just
been such a fun the entire live I started seeing
she made songs and stuff, which is very, very fun.
Ultimately to me, it is just my favorite part of
this entire thing has been the hypothetical interactions that might
(30:38):
happen at the wedding where I saw like some tweet
where someone was like, it was like Phoebe Bridgers talking
to the Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnolo, and Phoebe Bridgers
is like, hey, Steve, aren't you guys running a lot
of two high safeties this year? And ste is like yes, Phoebe.
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It's just like, this is what. It's such an interesting,
you know what, an interesting blend of worlds. I think
it's all fun. I think anyone getting into t football
is fun. I think I'm ultimately pretty positive in allowing
people to feel any joy they can feel in something
that kind of feels like we have bubbled off this
relationship and separated it from the world, right like for
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good and bad. We hold nothing against it for its
its lack of interaction in the world. That is not
going as well as it is, but we just.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Side the little bubble with the good with Glinda the
good Witch just like kind of floating through us right now.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And so we're just sort of like enjoying whatever that is.
And I think it's fun and I think it's gonna
you know it, it is just kind of is. I'm
laughing about it. It is. It's all ridiculous. I can't
as someone who's followed Travis Kelcey since he joined the Chiefs,
and it was a clown when he joined the team.
Used to get penalties. He did like the air jack
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off thing at a ref one time pretty recently. One
of my favorite is my fantasy football team picture is
a gift of that happening still from whenever. That was
like twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. He once threw a
flag at a ref. This guy is a clown.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
They throw They throw flags at him all the time,
all the time, just trying to get trying to get in,
especially before.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
They used to rig it for the Chiefs, they used
to throw flags. I'm just like, this guy's a clown
and it's so funny to see.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Honestly, he's like the jet Hanks of football.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes, yes, he very much is with the worst joker impression,
but he definitely is uh And you're just like, oh,
if you settle in, you're good.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, if you if you just embrace it. I saw
a tweet that was like Taylor Swift going down the
aisle and it was like a private jet going down
the aisle away.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I mean, it was great. It's goofy, it's weird. I
cannot believe it. I mean, she is, She's just so
much more famous than a football player, and that's the
America I have to realize.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I feel like this was like the Pete Davidson ariana
Grande thing, you know, where he was just like skyrocketed
into fame and.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He might be less fit. Travis might be less famous
than Pete. And she's infinitely more famous than Arion, if
that's even possible. Do you know what I mean? The
way it is.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Crazy, like she's dating the entire team, like you know
what I mean? Like the way it's just like the
ormalization the entire city or Kansas City is just.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Certainly healthy for everyone. It's certainly a thing. It's certainly
how we should interact with people we don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Wifties don't get mad at me. It's like a white
trash royal wedding.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yes, oh yes, I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
All of their all four of their names sound like
trailer companies. Taylor, Taylor and Swiss are two different types
of semi truck. Yeah, that's right, it it is. I'm
you know, it's fun for me and it's do I
did I think I would get a push notification about
an engagement to my phone from Adam Schefter. No, I
never thought NFL news would break on my phone about that.
(34:08):
But it's it is what it is, and I'm trying
to keep it separate of everything and just be like,
this is kind of funny. Do I think their engagement
photo was ugly? Yes? What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Where is this weird?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I don't know why they went to the Shire to
get engaged. He's just simply too late.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That sounds sick, That sounds weird.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
But not for him. He's gonna be bumping his head everywhere.
Oh man, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Have a wizard. That's why he's always high.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
A wizard. Yeah, a Kelsey never arrives or always rives. Yeah, yeah,
I know, it's fun. It's ridiculous, it's this is going
to be a weird I don't know how how many
can say I am a can see Chiefs fan my
whole life. I grew up like eight minutes from the stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Even before tailor the Taylor Swish.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Really, I have two and fourteen seasons, horrible quarterbacks, everything
go into games in the ninth I grew nineties.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm born in eighty eight, been a fans since I
was born. I think I wish we could ease up
a little bit on the coverage.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Of this relationship. Well that's certainly going to happen now.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Of everything, every fan hopes their team will become like
weirdly successful enough to like. Because the Chiefs are always
the national game, always the weird documentary, always the web series,
always the feat I think we could take a break.
I would simply love to take a break from them
being the most every.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Over walking outside like please no pictures please.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
That's why I wear my Casey Currents hat set of
Chiefs hats.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Now I'm a Patriots fan, and I wish I'd try
not to talk about very often. But yeah, there was
a after like the first couple Super Bowls, it was
like all right, like I hope nobody pays any attention
to them anymore. And then Tom Brady, who was like
this dorky guy who's like his whole thing, was like, yeah,
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it's like late round pick who's just like kind of
managing the offense, turns into like a great player and
like a hunk, and he's like marrying Giselle, and it
was just like, oh, God, damn it, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Want to know.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You're not this scrappy little team and now our.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Team sucks it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It has had an economic boom for my hometown, which
is an interesting thing. It's it's it's you.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Know, it's exciting all this stuff that he got the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It really is. If it got all of the Olympic sports,
Americans care about the one and uh, the one. Yeah,
and it's not even in the Olympics, but it's it's ultimately,
you know, fun and interesting and people are talking about it,
which is fun, and it's it's very funny to see
like just a weird giant goofball shoot his shot on
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his own podcast and it work in such an immense
way amazing that's creating.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Wait do you how do you feel about all of
the like political commentary about like Mahomes and his family.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Ah, it is so I I don't. It's just if
anyone's surprised that grew up rich kids from Texas might
lean right. I think that they've maybe just been lying
to themselves about it the entire time. The Ultimately, Mahomes
I find to be potentially the most boring person who's
ever existed. He if not for his voice, we would
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have never remembered a single thing he's ever said about.
And he's oh no, actually I didn't see her, like
the picture on Instagram, Please come to my new steakhouse.
It's just everything.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Everything is you know, there's this is through so many
pr people and he's just kind of a boring The
athletes at this level are psychopath So the only thing
that's interesting to hear him talk about is how he's
actually crazy about like competition. Like you hear Tom Brady
talking about competition, you think he's a serial killer.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, And oh my god, this is like the Michael
Jordan thing.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, like the Michael Jordan making a documentary about his
own good teams. The year after Lebron James wins a
championship is just a crazy thing the green light where
you're like, he like it never goes away.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
But appear to have a pathological like weirdness about him
in the documentary and so that thing that that person
probably didn't say, I did that personally and let it
fuel me.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
For I invented that this person hated me so I
could ruin his life. Yes, exactly, they're all but.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
The politiclym of the greatest athletes of all time.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You have to be otherwise you'd be a good person.
That's right. And I wish, I wish, I like, I
love Jalen Hurts, the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback, because he's like
explicitly outwardly a very good person. And see it just
like really really really like he's not he doesn't really
go seek out talking about political things, but he also
doesn't seem to avoid it.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And yeah, like recently he turned down some opportunity so
that low income housing wouldn't be like destroyed.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, and it's so easy thing that I really like that.
I wish Mahomes would would do that. He's just it's
so you.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Get Homes is busy naming his children like Brian and disappointment.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Absolutely. I mean you are literally named after the third
Place Metal.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I'm going to name my child Riley Gaines.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, his fourth kid is going to be named Ribbon.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Participation.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
They've done a lot of good things for the community
in Kansas City. His wife has been a big proponent
behind the women's soccer team getting a lot of funding,
and they actually have the only women's exclusive sports stadium
in the country and it was built for the Casey
Current who's I'm wearing here, And they're very good and
I love all that, but it's impossible to separate it
from like the you know, ultimately, I know that you
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are so disconnected from reality that you just want to
pay less taxes and you justify like the abuse of
lots of groups of people, so you can have like
a different fence, right, So what do I just I
unhealthily compartmentalize it. They're ultimately asking what it is?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
A different? A different sounds like Patrick Mahomes autobiography. He's like,
and I felt like I was on the side of
a different fence.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
You know, they say the grass is always greener, so
I bought both yards.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I can't do the voice. It's a little bit like Kermit.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
It's a lot like.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Powers.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
It is exactly yeah, which is the nicest. It sounds
like the coolest fucking person who's ever existed.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I know.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah. If his personality was also Kermit mixed with Kenny Powers,
would be in business. But unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, I feel like Kenny Powers on the field.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Similar like similar hair? Yeah yeah, anyway, hair? How do
I do?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
You know?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Blindness? Blind turn a blind eyed everything so I can
enjoy something.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Do you know what my my guilty pleasure is is
that I don't? This is so weird. I don't listen
to problematic artists on my own. But if they're playing
Michael Jackson in like a dunkin Donuts, I might enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
You know that dunked a bit longer.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
And it's like, no, she's moon walking back in. It
looks like she's leaving.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's like quitting smoking, where you're like, oh, I buy
it myself, but I will, I just do it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I just listened to Michael Jackson socially, it's only it's
only when I drink.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I've like multiple times been around people who who will
remind you that R Kelly's streaming rights now go to
charity for the victims. Oh yeah, and then so they're
very like it's like they're turning it up and saying that,
and it's like, I know, and I could tell you're
telling me because you felt weird about playing it.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's all right, Let's take a quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back, and what do we
want to talk about? We want to talk about wind power?
(41:55):
Or do we want to talk about Gwen Stefani Gwen Stefani.
Let's go wait, Kyle, do you have an opinion?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Well, I would say, according to a lot of people,
neither are very real.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
So we can all right, Well, now we have to
talk about wind power. So this is the thing that
Trump has been. It's been making headline Donald talks about. Yes,
Donald Trump. There is an old article in this in
the article that our writer jam put together where they
(42:27):
refer to him as like American tycoon Donald Trump because
it's like before he was president, so weird future. Donald
Trump has written to Scotland's first Minister.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Lyric reference, Donald J. Trump has written in so he's
very anti wind power. And the narratives that are making
it through to the mainstream. One is that he thinks
that wind power is responsible for killing one hundred and
sixty whales annually, and RFK Junior backed him up on that,
which is funny. The RFK just say birds, I know
(43:04):
there's so many birds to get killed, but whales, I
think they've found This is a spoiler alert, but this
whole all the anti wind arguments are like dark money
funded oil industry. Believe that.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I think he just hated parts of Captain Planet. He
was like wind was such a bitch.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, I think that could be it. But yeah, I
almost called him r Kelly, r f K Junior, r
f K E l o y r F Kelly is
it's funny for him to be worried about the wheels.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Because it's just a remix to agnition. It's like honey,
it's not hot and fresh out the kitchen. It's just
organic and raw out of the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It's not no seed, oils, blue metal or whatever it is. So,
first of all, the whale thing's not true. Also very
funny for the wait.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
For the whales to confirm that, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yes, a guy who chopped off a whale's head with
a chainsaw for to be the voice of like whale conservation,
but he's also asserted that Trump has also long asserted
that wind turbines make whales crazy. They make them crazy,
sometimes they kill them. There's no evidence for this.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think it's they're just like, oh, that fucking sound havings.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
I really don't ever want what he says to be true,
but this is one of the things that he said
that I wished was true. I would just love to
see that somehow the whale going crazy, right, maybe he
really anythings that the windpower made him jump over that
U pier.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
They're jumping around out there, They're coming up there, blowing
shit out of the top of their head. It's like
just normal whale behavior. But anyways, these are fixed statistics.
Bring a whale coke through its blowhole. All of the
excess whale deaths are caused by We'll get to some
like the main thing it's caused by, but you know,
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people hitting them with their fucking yachts.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
A yeah, just like depression, the dodge rams of the ocean.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
The blind spot in Zuckerberg's yacht is just clipping away
running over baby whales.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
There's also an origin story that's going around that, like
his hatred for wind turbines started when he was building
a golf course in Scotland and they built an offshore
wind farm near his luxury golf resort, and so exactly
he thought that's what was causing He got the cause
(45:38):
and effect backwards. He thought that the turbines were causing
the wind. He didn't.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
You could just see why he thinks stuff. He's so transparent.
He's someone built a wind turbine on water near something
he likes. So he says that they kill what's in water, right, Yeah,
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Very child coated logic.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, so that's that's the thing. That's how everybody is
interpreting it. The other thing that he said that like
keeps getting repeated by conservatives is like, yeah, but like
what do you do when the wind stops blowing? That
then like you're you're out of power, which is like
it's it's not I think they're relying on people who
have like their understanding of wind power is like mouse,
(46:24):
like running on a thing that's like making a bicycle
wheel move. That's me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
It's just like one to one poetic like the day
the wind died, right, Like it's so beautiful. Maybe they're
just they have a lot of on wheat, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Oh, I hope he appoints Rube Goldberg in charge of
energy for the country, right exactly. That's how we that's
how we power this man. He makes me toast in
the morning. It's very complicated.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Really sad that Rube Goldberg's first name was Rube. That's
kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
His parents were his parents looked at him as a baby,
and we're looking to fuck, we're gonna be able to
scam the shit out of this kid, Bill, right, But yeah,
so more recently suggesting that your power goes off AS's
not windy out. Now, he's really going after wind power legislatively,
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a flurry of executive orders targeting wind turbines, The Big
Beautiful Bill specifically, is targeting clean energy funding all over
the place. In last week, his administration halted the construction
of a wind farm near Rhode Island that was eighty
percent complete. And they're just like, yeah, I don't know,
we there's problems. It's there's some concerns. Some they actually
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went with there's some security concerns with the windmill, which
who the fuck knows what that could even possibly mean,
so all of this seems to be designed to suggest
that he is mad because he like when he was
younger a golf court, like on the way his golf course,
or that he's like too stupid to understand how windmills work.
(48:05):
And we've talked about the strategy recently. They're like weirdly,
when you go back through history, some of the biggest
monsters were kind of these like quirky, like Hitler had
the dumb mustache and you know, like they Missolini had,
like someone still in Argentina, yes, still has.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah it's very old and you imagine he didn't shave,
and so it's just so dumb. He is, yes, the
same mustache. So like it throws people off the scent
a little bit. Essentially, it like makes people be like, ah,
this is someone we make fun of. It's not someone
that we fear. And I feel like that's something I'm
(48:46):
noticing more and more with Trump, and like this strategy
of just pretending to be like dumb and silly and
like taking a walk on the White House roof and
you know, he may be suffering from some dementia, but
it doesn't make him like any less dangerous. But I
feel like by just like buying into those narratives that
he the only reason he's against wind energy is.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Because he's dumb. It like suggests that it's this surface
level thing when what's really happening is and we cover
this at the time during the election. Big oil spent
half a billion dollars last year to explicitly quote influence
Donald Trump and Congress, and he literally had a meeting
(49:30):
with oil executives at mar Lago in twenty twenty four,
Like this was reported on at the time. We talked
about it, where he promised them that he would do
whatever they wanted if they helped him win. Like literally
that was what he said to them.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
The concept of Donald Trump getting like influenced, He's like, oh,
maybe I should have some of these this tummy tuck
tea or whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yes, but in many ways they say I'm the ultimate influencer.
But he like him repeating shit about windpower causing whale
deaths and cancer is probably because that's exactly what the
oil industry like wants him to do. Fossil fuel companies
are have been shown to be behind those exact conspiracy theories,
(50:15):
and they use like dark money contributions to fund a
nationwide misinformation campaign against clean energy, and they've been doing
it for years, and so he's just he's just a fucking,
you know, megaphone for them to spread the same shit
that they've been trying to spread.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, I mean, I figured, I mean, it makes me
feel better making fun of him for being dumb. And
I'm sure that's exactly what I'm like facing that while
you're reading this, I'm like, yeah, it actually all makes
a lot of sense. And whether or not he is
smart dumb, he is, uh not, everyone is dumb around him, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
He's very useful.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
And by the way, the thing that is killing whales
besides you know, getting hit by yuts, is climate change
and oil spill.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Okay, also that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, and cocaine overdoses. As you guys mentioned earlier that
too many people have just given them too much cocaine.
But yeah, the planktin are the organisms in the ocean
that are affected by temperature change, and so it's not
good for the whales. I continue to think that we
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need to learn and the.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Windmills are killing them, that's what you're saying. They have
to double threat one of these things we can help
and one of these things we can't. But yeah, I
think we should learn the names of oil executives and
like name our hurricanes after them. Yeah, we really, they really,
it's their anonymity is very precious. They do a good job.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Let's keep naming hurricanes after just women.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
It's a really bad one. Let's go with that's right, well, Kyle, Yeah,
it's wonderful having you as always.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, got to be here.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3 (52:04):
I'm at Kyle Ayers on most stuff in k Y
L E A Y E R S. And yeah, if
you are in New York, I'm doing a show off
Broadway for the September fourth to fourteenth at the Soho Playhouse.
I have an hour comedy show about a chronic pain
disorder I have. So I have a weird little brain disease.
I wrote a lot of jokes about it, and I
(52:25):
will be there for eleven shows and if it doesn't
go well the last show, I'm going to kill myself.
So I hope you guys come out to the no
I would I thought that's.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Actually a regular promise from a stand up comedian.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, yeah, but just at this point I would actually
monetize that. So yeah, so if you guys have two
B plus tune in for how that last show goes.
But yes, this soho Playhouse. Then if you're in New
York and if you I helped write and I'm on
a show called Amy's Dead and dream House, which is
a streaming on Nebula. It's like Pee Wee's Playhouse for
manic women adults and it's very funny and very colorful,
(52:59):
starring Maggie may Fish and it's really wonthful. And that
is on Nebula and you can check it out. Most
of the episodes are up, but there's still a couple
more to come. But yeah, Kyler's almost things. Thank you
for having me. It's fun to hear and laugh and
also listen and learn. And I sound like a notesapp
when I say.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
That, you sound like weapologize. I do about this person
who just like had two chat GPTs like talking to
one another and like they're like just they're like, it
was great talking to you, and I really appreciate your
support and it's wonderful having you and then like the
other one would be like and so much, we've's been
(53:38):
great hearing you and talking to you and experiencing you,
and they just like compliment each other, but they won't
let the other one have the last word.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
It's like when you said two furbies by each other. Yeah, exactly,
just keeps just touch and yes, hey, but thank you,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Is there work a media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (53:58):
You know, I there's a singer song writer in Los
Angeles named Sharon Silva who has this some new music out,
including the song People the Please, which I really like
Sharon Silva. And then I screenshot this tweet or thread
from Sam Wiles a while ago, and I put it
in here to say today, and it says zero stars
for the new Naked Gun movie. Was really hoping for
(54:18):
a meditation on grief, which really meant.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, they did fuck that up big time.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Cried the whole time. Two windshields, all those cops. Yeah. Uh,
Paul of you. Where can people find you as their
workimedia you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I'm in Chicago, baby, I am at Paula veganoll M
P A L L A B I GU and A
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I have to DM a bunch of people to come
because tickets are hard to sell everywhere in this fucking city.
But you should come if your TDZ head zeigang on
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the nineteenth of September at ten pm at the Comedy
Store in the belly room and a work of have
you did you guys see the top ten top twenty
five list of influencers that came out according to a
Rolling Stone And then mister Beast got like really upset
and he wrote, according to this list, a guy with
one million followers is more influential than me. What did
(55:23):
I do to piss off the Rolling Stones? Which is
first of all hilarious?
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
And Caleb yeah yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:31):
And so Caleb came in number six and microplastics fracture
at Diabolical Spuds wrote this, mister Beast, I cannot respond
directly because you blocked me, but I wanted you to
know that Caleb is a comedian who makes many laugh
and you are some sort of Willy Wonka marionette being
puppeted by the algorithm. And I was like, what a
beautiful concise way to put what, mister beasts.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
If I had the money, could you imagine, you know
how not around or insecure. I would be if I
had money.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
I know. I mean, I assume there are plenty of
people who would be sending people to a dungeon and
escape and trying to get them to escape by like
clawing their way out, but like, at least it'd be funny.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
And you have to hope that mister Beast never reads
the cast of a Montiato, because otherwise he's going to
just try and make it with people to win six
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
He thought the Stanford prison experiment was aspirational.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
That's right. The instructions for how to go viral they
call it an experiment. You can find me on Twitter
at Jack Undersquirrel, Brian on Blue Sky at jack ob
the Number one. I just liked this potential opening for
an email from Lemon at nou Is York with two k's.
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You can go to the description of this episode where
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We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy superducer Justin Connor filling him for miles
while he's out. Is there a song that you think
the people might enjoy?
Speaker 7 (57:28):
Yeah, this is a song from a soundtrack off of
a PS four RPG I think from twenty sixteen called
Persona five.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
I've never played it.
Speaker 7 (57:37):
I'm not as familiar with it as Jack is, but
this track really stuck out to me.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
It hasn't on A five. Now you're taking me back
just yeah, I know my head.
Speaker 7 (57:51):
Has this down tempo, acid jazz feel of a group
like Zero seven. If you're familiar with them, you're probably
gonna like this. So this has been the mask by
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The first time I ever got head shots in la.
First of all, I was in a van. Classic.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Second of all.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Second of all, are we defining his head shots here?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah? I knew the photographer to yell at me in
order for me to smile, And I'm like, this is
unlocked a lot about my childhood, like smile and to
do like a natural laugh unless they started like hilarious.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, wow, you gotta have him be mean to you
in the van.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, if someone was nice to you in a van,
that would be creepy.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's suspicious.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I was just listening to something. Oh is a
photographer who was working with Zora and Momdani for the
cover shoot of I Think he like a New York
magazine profile, and like he was like too uptight because
he's like a normal person and he's like the fuck,
what am I doing? I'm gonna be on the cover
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of a magazine that's weird. And so the photographer was like,
and so I did this thing that works for me
where I showed him a magic trick and it like
disarmed him and enough to like get him to smile.
Like a weird what is that like runs around?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He's like.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Jumps through a window, like his outline is in the
window like a Looney Tune leaving.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
They're like, now that you relax, Hello the Internet, and
welcome to season four oh three, Episode four of der
Nay Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we
take a deep dive into america shared consciousness. And it's Thursday,
August twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. I want to say
April for some reason, it's August still apparently. My name's
Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be
joined in our second seat by a hilarious stand up comedian, writer,
(02:06):
actor improviser. You can catch her at the monthly Facial
Recognition comedy show, which he also produces. Check the footnotes it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is I told you once Miles moved into his new place,
I was going to burn that ship down.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's what I did it again.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Flick flick, flick flick with my len.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
This is a line of joking that a mere year
after you actually burned his house down.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I ever saw burning Miles's house.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We're doing this episode. You're coming to us from Arkham Asylum,
where you're I don't know why we keep having her
back on in a spring, and I'll do it again again.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I put Miles Is, I put Miles's house on a boat,
and I said, you can either you can sake the boat.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, first save Maggie Gillenhaul. Yeah, and yeah, he had
to make up his mind. It's wonderful to see you.
Oh my gosh, Chicago. See Chicago and August one of
my favorite locations to be anywhere, Great anytime, great overlap
of time and space, continuum.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Every time I come to Chicago, I'm like, Chicago's the
best because I never come here during the winter, so
it's just untouched in my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's beautiful, a beautiful place with temperate climbs where everybody's
always outdoors day drinking and happy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The river's apparently really clean right now?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think they're having some sort of event where people
are going to swim in it. So it seems like
they were finally like, let's maybe clean it, let's clean
shut up, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like a reverse Saint Patti's Day, where they're like, instead
of dying it an unnatural color, let's see like if
we could just like make it clean, like make it
like water.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, yeah, what what is okay? So New York
has Santa Con, Chicago has the Saint Patti's Day stuff
for like a public drunken event. What if Ellie's cannot
be Coachella. I'll be so upset if it's coach Ella.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, New York has so much. New York has
the US Open currently, which is a quietly a public
drunken event.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm talking loud and sloppy.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
What do we got? It's getting there. I'll tell you what.
These these tennis commentators can't believe how drunk and.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Rude everybody is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Are you serious? Talking about it? A lot they've been.
I mean it's John McEnroe, famously loud and rude person.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But that got them into so many movies.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They keep Yeah, they keep showing fans with like stacked
up cups. They're like these souvenir cups that you can
only get by ordering like a tumbler love vodka.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Like the athletes aren't the only athletes.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's right. Yeah, Anyways, I love that New York has
Santa Con. That that's like one of the things that
you give New York. Paula Vey We're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat. Wonderful having you. Thank you
so much for filling him for Miles while he is
doing something that.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Is not that's not what's happening. He is on a
sign again. Paully thrilled to be joined in their third
seat by very funny stand up comedium writer, actor, producer,
creator of boast Rattle, The Compliment Contest and Never Seen It,
a podcast where famous comedians, including one Jacuse Neil rewrite
(05:41):
classic movies they've never seen Can and Ought to go
stream his special happiness Welcome back to the show, the
hilarious Kyle.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Is good to be here. It is good to be
here and sound like Blake Wexler. I'm I love every
time I come where people are like sounded like Blake,
and I'm going to take that as a compliment. I
thought it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They don't even have a neutral like that's like the
neutral feedback.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They don't even tag me, they don't they tag Blake.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
They're like to start saying slurs, then just.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Do it. I think if the one thing Miles would
be most disappointed in his house burning down again would
be that yet again in a Batman movie, the Joker
was the villain. I think that that he was just
like I wish they would just use a different villain.
I think it would just please with someone else. I've
also been enjoying the US Open drunk people. I think
it's very fun.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
We used to do this thing when I was a
kid where if I went to a Royals game, can.
I grew up in Kansas City, my dad and I
would we would stay after the game and collect collectible
cups that were left behind.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You can.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean we still have dozens of If anyone needs
a cup with on hell Baroa on the side, I
know Rookie of the Year campaign for on hell Barroa.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
There's so someone who has like us, who has an
empty spot on their shelf.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah on hell Berrowa's parents.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I have the US opened Greg Goose cup.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I do. Oh there you go there not drunk.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
But also there's a guy I think his last name
is Caspar Rude who's like this nineteen year old tennis
player who is being interviewed and they were like, what
do you think of New York? And he was like, uh,
to be honest with you, like everywhere smells like weed,
and they like started laughing and he's like, no, seriously,
it's like really bad. And I was like, all right,
(07:33):
I'm I have a I have a person to root against,
fucking Nerda to root against. I did say fucking nerd outlet.
My wife was watching it the video. I said fucking
Nerd and she goes, that's exactly the first comment under
the video. Just America collectively was like, fucking Nerd.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But yeah, yeah, don't root for the cop.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, that's like what my dad says when he when
he comes to La He's like, it smells like marijuana everywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But he says it approvingly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
My dad says it with sunglasses on and like a rosta.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Hat, turns to camera and says it and gets.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
A big lowers theses. Tell you what I like about Ellen,
smells like weed everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm Marijuanta a little bit for myself the credit.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
All right, Kyle, we are going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. I mean, obviously we want to get your
opinion on the big news of the year. I'd say
probably the biggest news we have of the years. Travis
Kelsey and uh, what's his girlfriend's name again, Taylor Swift
(08:49):
are engaged to be wed. We talked about it on
Trending yesterday. But obviously, Kyle, we want to give you
a chance to talk talk about the show. We're gonna
talk about wind power. Wind power get a bit of
a raw deal from the Trump administration. They're not down
with wind wind power, with wind turbines or as Trump
(09:10):
caused them, windmills. The way Trump is talking about it
and then it's being reacted to, is like he's acting
like he's too dumb to understand. He's like, well, when
the wind's not blown, what happened?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And okay, but that's also how I feel, so please
stop me.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Also, yeah, we'll learn a lot, but basically, it's what
he's doing is straight out of the fossil fuel industry playbook.
All of that plenty more. But first, Kyle, we do
like to get to know our guests a little bit
better and ask you what is something from your search
(09:47):
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I just so this is always kind of a mirror
that you hold up to yourself when you do this segment.
But The last thing I had searched was are there
any laws about headlights? Reddit? So I just simply don't
know if there's any laws about how bright headlights are
allowed to be, is anyone allowed to do anything? Some
of them are so upsettingly bright. And I was just
(10:10):
in North Carolina, which is what made me search this,
because all the headlights there are at all the truck
it's all trucks there, and it seems like people lift
their truck to what I like to call toddler blind
spot inches high, and so every single truck is like
they're like, I just see my truck just high enough
to where I could clip the top of a skull
if it was learning to walk. Predator, Yeah, dodge ram
(10:36):
is actually the two verbs kids need around these trucks.
And so I'm like, I'm in a regular human rental
car being followed by a truck and I cannot see
and I can't and so I didn't search it while driving,
but I do think it's it's actually illegal there to
not be on your phone leader, are there any.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Laws for headlights? And did you find out? Like, are there?
Because I really had the thought just search this, started
searching it clipped a toddler had to stop and pretend
throw my phone out the window so that nobody like.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Toddler sounds like those parents exploiting their kids, clipped a toddler.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I thought that the rule about tail lights was you
aren't allowed to have them or not have them if
you're black, Like I thought that.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Was the thing, right, that's right tail lights.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yes, yeah, well that part of the internet's banned in
North Carolina. The answers to that, you're actually not allowed
to access black part of the internet. Yeah, the part
that could help a minority. It's like ten square in China.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah. It was no definitive answer and honestly hard to
read because I was in a hotel and yet again,
headlights outside were so bright, and what are we doing.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
When you first started this, I was like, oh god.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
We are old, Like yeah, what's the oldest I've ever felt?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but it makes sense. I get really upset when
restaurants are too dim. Now, I'm like, these fucking guys,
they think that we can't read the menu in here.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh I just ate at a restaurant down street from me.
I say, just it was it was a long time ago,
a month ago, but the guy pulled it. It was
so dim The guy pulled his phone out to read
the menu and then just never turned the flashlight off
the rest of his time in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He was trying to help the rest of the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It was like he had a little disco ball on
his table at any given moment that might blind you
or might help you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, you had dinner with my father. That's been nice.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I said, But I have no idea about headlights. I
still don't know the answer. I don't know. Can we
leave that up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
To the states? I wish we wouldn't, because.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I feel like something bad is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I know I don't like telling people I'm either pro
light or pro choice, but.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, headlights are going to only can only be dimmed
by the corpse of a child.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You know, I could put a windshield wiper on there
to get thin hair of it. After you run a
kid over, big wheel out of a truck.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I forgot dark. I forgot how dark your company is?
Like why I forgot?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Every time I see one of these trucks, I'm like,
they're going to run over the kid from the Incredibles
that was in his driveway. That's what this looks like
to me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, I just.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Realized, I know why there aren't like creepy kids on
bikes anymore, Like and they all are like throwbacks to
the eighties.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They've all been wiped out. It's why it takes so
long for them to make a new season a stranger
thing thing. Let the kids grow out of the blind spot.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I know that. Like people always talk about how yeah,
but if it's like super it's kind of like this
arms race that's happening with the size of cars, and
this is like also a part of that where like
the size of cars, the people inside the car are safer,
is everyone outside the car that's like less safe?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Because once again we're talking about and square, they were
very safe in the tank inside the tank, but historically
unsold out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was always worried about the people inside the tank
when I saw that bit, but apparently they were fine.
It was that guy holding his groceries that but yeah,
and then like super bright lights, it's like, well, nobody's
going to run into you, And I was like, well,
they can't see, so they might run into other things.
And it's like not you though, you know what I mean,
Like it just has this like weird prisoner's dilemma, like
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zero something that's happening.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's a trolley problem where you invented the.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Track, right, yeah, problem, except they're like, is there a
way I can run over some of them, back up,
change direction, then run over the one guy, all so
I could try and save a little bit on taxes
in my mind, but.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, trying to research this, like headlights are too bright,
but US experts say they're not bright enough on Reddit
the first one, Brightness isn't the issue. I'm like, all right,
well I've checked out. It's it's actually the direction that
you and my brain shuts down, like I can't. I
don't want to hear that I was brightness.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And I just got a little crazy, little more angry
about the internet.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yes that's right, Kyle. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Okay? So underrated? I wrote down just sort of sitting
and thinking about something and trying to remember it.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, I was in the woods.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I was just in the woods for a week and
I didn't have good service, and I would get into
conversations with people and we would say stuff like huh,
you know what I mean. It was crazy. We'd say
stuff like humh or oh yeah, I think, and then
you just kind of wouldn't really for sure kind of
know entirely for a while. And maybe I have now
ingrained misinformation into my head based off of people on
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drugs at a music festival, But that's fine. It was
kind of nice to just sort of debate a.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Idea that's probably less misinformation than you get now.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh it definitely is, I because there's not it's not
being positively reinforced by robots.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Also, I love that when you said I was just
in the woods. That's how I imagine you always.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Are, like, oh yeah, cearly from a financial standpoint.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
In the woods, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And it was just so fun. It was just so
fun to just be like, yeah, huh, oh, I can't remember.
Let me think and see if I can make my
brain go back right they can.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Sometimes you're trying to like scroll on the bark of
a tree, or like, how do I get into me?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I'm pinching to zoom a tent. It was it was
really a wonderful feeling. I also wrote I.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Caused a phone call before and I was like, wait,
this is a human.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Person, This is a human on the other side. Can
I scrabble to the end of our to our conversation.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, let's scrub. Let's scrub. Do this at one point
five speed?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Do people listen to this at one point five speed?
People told me they listened to never seen it at
one and a half speed. It makes me feel crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That does make me feel crazy. I would prefer not
to know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I cannot listen to things at one and a half speed.
I don't want my podcasters to sound like chipmunks. That's
why I listened to Chipmunk's podcast, you know exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I already listened to that from my regular.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Pods that their culture not your costume.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Jack, Can we get u DL Alvin? Really slowly? So
people at one and a half speed will hear it
at almost speed. That's what I wrote down. I just
remember I loved it. I love it and thinking about
stuff he owned. Chipmunks that talk to be freaking out
every day. I would probably wish I would probably feel
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entitled to more money if I had three talking animals.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Also, I feel like there'd probably be a lot of
droppings everywhere. They don't talk.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
About Oh, that's true. You know, it implies that they're housebroken,
but chipmunks being housebroken.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Also, if I were Simon and Theodore, I would like
I would hold some resentment behind the name of the group. Yeah, right,
it's a chipmunk and the Chipmunks. We are that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He is also one of those who is Alvin's real father, right,
Alvin and the Chipmunks?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Who are the chipmunks? Well, Alvin have course, right, is
one of the three Michael, It's like Michael Jackson and
the Humans was the name of the Jackson five.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
That's kind of how I viewed it, how.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Everyone sort of took away from it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He also was the most the poorly behaved of the three,
and so you're like giving the starring role, you're rewarding.
You're rewarding that behavior while you have like a hair
trigger temper for anything that they do best.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Honestly, God bless America. That is the American dream.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, he was. It's like a reality star, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, he was like proto the Rizzler in many ways.
All Right, in this essay, I will why did why
did you say that?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Make my knees hurt?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is something you think is overrated, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Uh, those I can cuss right?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh? Hell yes, those fucking you believed not that one.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I hate you believe videos so much? Did I hate them?
I hate them. I can't tell when they're satire or not.
I don't think they're helpful. Maybe I'm wrong and too
closed off and too like pessimistic about it, but ultimately
I'm just like, who's the who's It's just to me,
it's it's like a musical chairs for a bigot. Who's
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the fastest bigot? Not even fastest quickest And then they
come in and there every one of them is like, hey,
will you ever change your mind? And that person goes no,
and then they're like, all right, we should talk over
each other for a minute, right, which is pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Have you seen Yasser Lester's thing that he photoshopped him
in the surrounded background and he was like one light
skinned n word versus a bunch of white conservatives. But
they don't know. I got a gun on me.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
See I would watch that. I get so, I really
and it's it's something that I'm not happy to admit
I find unhelpful because maybe it is just me closing
myself off, and it feels like a very sort of like,
I don't know, I feel very pessimistic to be like,
I find these wildly on helpful, and I'm sure I'm
very open to being incorrect about it, but god, I
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have never seen a clip of them and thought this
helped anyone at all, except everyone could sit at home
and be like, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah he told you. Both sides are getting like our
being like yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, launch where everyone feels right.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think like I watched a lot of the like
political commentators online, and I think they helped me with
talking points. So in terms of like understanding talking points
or history, then I'm like okay, like I didn't know
about that or like this other argument or whatever. But
I also think that the people involved are like very
happy to debate, and I'm like unhappy to debate in
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that I think in that I think we shouldn't have
to fucking debate human rights, you know what I mean.
So I think that that's the part where I'm like, Okay,
this is a bit self indulgent in that, yeah, like
maybe it'll help more people like understand like the history
of the talking points, like the politics of it all.
But also like we're not super changing any minds on there,
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and it does give these fascists a platform, like now
I know some of the faces of these fascists and
that people.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Are submitting to being fascist. And I find it to
be like you were saying, what we have normalized. I
hate saying stuff like normalized. I hate you know what
I mean, you feel crazy using what we have allowed
to be the normal debate is so far outside of
what is like reasonable or or.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Anything I think Hitler.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Debates right, We're not debating like an allocation of taxes
in a community versus near a city or something where
you're like, I could you know, We're we're allowing equal
footing to such. There is an objectively correct and incorrect
answer that we're allowing people to talk about like there
isn't and it involves people being alive and then someone's
monetizing it, of course, but it just I am maybe
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I just want to get booked on one. I don't know,
I'm tired. What's overrated? This YouTube show that won't book me?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They on the clip of this and they're like, Kyle
has been we had to restraint get a restraining order against.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Always were like Wow. We were really unsure of which
side Kyle it was on this whole time.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
He said, please let me. I don't do the work.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's one of the it was one of the things
I felt a little bit guilty about feeling is overrated,
if that makes sense. But I'm just sort of like
it makes me I don't think we are. It doesn't
feel healthy. It doesn't feel healthy, And it feels like
you you make you think something is equal if you
are giving it a platform like that.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, Like it's it feels like it comes from the
same place as people being like, what, we don't need
moderators on Reddit because like this is free speech and
then you just like get shouted down by like thirty
fascists and it's it does. I think it helps my
visual imagination for like what fascists can look like.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, I was gonna say, now, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
They do have glasses like that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm like, it's your local NB barista.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yes, it certainly is.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That has been a jarring discovery is on mute, not
knowing who would believe what has been a tough thing
to come to where it used to be. You know,
on mute, I know who's got a tiki torch.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Right exactly. They all kind of all those tiki torch
guys looked like I would expect people caring tiki torches
to look like, and now they look like Hawaian. Yeah exactly.
They wouldn't appropriate, right, they look they look like the
stars of sitcoms that had like special we go to
Hawaii episodes from like the nineteenth fifty. Yeah, you know, some.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Producer wanted to go on vacation. They're like, we're actually
having a nice story arc here.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But yeah, they hipsters can be fascists too frequently they are,
according to Jubilee videos. That's that's what I've learned.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I also, I also can't tell like I understand what
you mean by like not normalizing it or like wanting
people to have shame. But also like as a brown person,
like I would rather know what people actually believe in
their hearts. And I've had interpersonal experiences where I where
somebody's fully switched up on me and I'm like, Okay,
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so that's in my neighborhood. That's good. Like I would
rather fucking know you know, yeah, sure, do you like
hate watch them?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I have really really tried to cut out of my
life doing that with things, but it's sometimes they really
you know, a certain back and like the one that
was just the guy going yeah, I'm a fascist. Yeah,
you can't avoid that. And so I saw, Yes, I
saw a lot of clip from his clips from his
of the various people, but especially.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Telling him to go leave, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You just sort like I don't know, maybe I just
but I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He kind of has a similar view because he was saying,
like when one of them was like, yeah, I'm a fascist,
he's like stopped king. He's like, I don't have conversations
with fascist.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh you are just liked, but I have. So I
commend the people who can sit there and do that.
And I just I think rationing, Oh, ultimately, I feel
guilt about the amount of consumption you do and what
you cut out and what you're aware of and things
like that all the time. And then I'm also trying
to like take care of myself in a physical and
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manner and you're just like, it's crazy to small picture
and big picture yourself through all of this. It's very
difficult thing to balance.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, I did like and this is probably a bad
thing that this is what gave me, like hope, was
that the guy who he was like, Oh, I don't
debate with fascist fascists. Are you a fascist? And he
was like, yeah, a fascist and like started like ugly
laughing they are. Yeah. He got fired from his job
and like I was like, oh, so there's like still
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some institutions.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And then he started to go fund me where he
raised like a fuck ton of money for being a
fascist that's true, which is like that isn't That's the
thing where I'm like, this is encouraging people to like
try to become like influencers and like make politics content.
And that's that's the part that I'm like, if you
don't fucking know or hear a bad person, just stay out.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Like there is something it seems like you that is
a new It's like a quick quicker than going on
a dating reality show or The Bachelor or something is
to go and go viral in a jubilee moment and
launch yourself into something that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I do want to like see what the process is
for like putting those rooms together, Like do where are
they going? Like is it what pool are they fishing from?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You know, they're going to these They're going to these
cities that uh fascists and Republicans love to live in
that they say they.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Hate right, Like, they're also influencers before. Like a lot
of them are like to the other people who sit, Yeah,
a lot of them have either been like worked for Jubilee,
Like some of the people are like picked by Jubilee
multiple times. Some of them are like podcast host or
something like. Some of them are already like they'll take
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Dale Kyle.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
There might be a chance.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, yeah, turned up.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
One guy keeps trying to do movie puns. He keeps
saying the wolf of Wally Street in the Jubilee video
about border culturol. I do appreciate all it is, just
it's such an odd feeling for me, and I don't
know what it is about them that feels bad and
(27:32):
weird and it feels terrible. Yeah you do, but there
is something to like, it's just like jarring. You just
never thought you would see people be like, yeah, dude,
I'm a fascist. You never think you'd see someone say that.
But then it's like it's so normal now. I guess
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, I'm like, honestly, I think the moment of political
shock I had was the twenty sixteen election and like
I had an experience just like that SNL moment where
like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle were like, yeah, this
is what America is, and all the white people were
like what because I was with like my white friends
and we were all freaked out. And then I like
later in the night, I was like out of mic
where it was like a lot of black people and
they were like laughing and they were like, yeah, this
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is just normal for America. So since then, I haven't
been shocked. Yeah, I haven't been shocked at anything honestly
since then.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, shock is hard to have. Yeah, you just it's
weird that I let myself continually have disappointment.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think that's beautiful though.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Let's disappointed. Yeah, it proves that there's like some hope inside. Yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We got to get to the big story. Travis and
Taylor are married.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, we'll be right.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Back, geez, And we're back. And we're back, folks, We're back, Kyle. Yeah,
do you everybody's talking about it. Paulviy and I talked
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about it on Yesterday's The big news on the internet
is that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey, which if their
names would actually Jason Pargon, a frequent guest on the show, Cracked,
co creator of Mine, pointing out that their names, if
you switch them, would like kind of make more sense,
(29:19):
Like Travis Kelcey is like kind of a sweet sounding
name for like a country singer, and then like Taylor
Swift is such a sick name for a football player. Anyways,
they're getting married, they're going to blend their names together.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Possibly somebody said so. There was some tweet that was like,
after marriage, they'll both be named Taylor Lautner.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That, Yeah, what does a child of the two of them?
Is it just Taylor Latner reincarnated? Do you have any thoughts?
I'll give you the range. Swifties are saying, quote, I
could smoke crack cocaine and it wouldn't make me as
happy as this moment right now. And then the low
end of the spectrum would be that Charlie Kirk is
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cautiously optimistic that this is going this is going to
make her a submissive traad wife.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh god, I thought they were already smoking crack cocaine.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, I mean, I look, I'm from Kansas City. It
has all been an exciting time since she entered our lives,
and I'm a huge Chiefs fan, and that's it's just
been such a fun the entire live I started seeing
she made songs and stuff, which is very, very fun.
Ultimately to me, it is just my favorite part of
this entire thing has been the hypothetical interactions that might
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happen at the wedding where I saw like some tweet
where someone was like, it was like Phoebe Bridgers talking
to the Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnolo, and Phoebe Bridgers
is like, hey, Steve, aren't you guys running a lot
of two high safeties this year? And ste is like yes, Phoebe.
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It's just like, this is what. It's such an interesting,
you know what, an interesting blend of worlds. I think
it's all fun. I think anyone getting into t football
is fun. I think I'm ultimately pretty positive in allowing
people to feel any joy they can feel in something
that kind of feels like we have bubbled off this
relationship and separated it from the world, right like for
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good and bad. We hold nothing against it for its
its lack of interaction in the world. That is not
going as well as it is, but we just.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Side the little bubble with the good with Glinda the
good Witch just like kind of floating through us right now.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And so we're just sort of like enjoying whatever that is.
And I think it's fun and I think it's gonna
you know it, it is just kind of is. I'm
laughing about it. It is. It's all ridiculous. I can't
as someone who's followed Travis Kelcey since he joined the Chiefs,
and it was a clown when he joined the team.
Used to get penalties. He did like the air jack
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off thing at a ref one time pretty recently. One
of my favorite is my fantasy football team picture is
a gift of that happening still from whenever. That was
like twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. He once threw a
flag at a ref. This guy is a clown.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
They throw They throw flags at him all the time,
all the time, just trying to get trying to get in,
especially before.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
They used to rig it for the Chiefs, they used
to throw flags. I'm just like, this guy's a clown
and it's so funny to see.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Honestly, he's like the jet Hanks of football.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes, yes, he very much is with the worst joker impression,
but he definitely is uh And you're just like, oh,
if you settle in, you're good.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, if you if you just embrace it. I saw
a tweet that was like Taylor Swift going down the
aisle and it was like a private jet going down
the aisle away.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I mean, it was great. It's goofy, it's weird. I
cannot believe it. I mean, she is, She's just so
much more famous than a football player, and that's the
America I have to realize.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I feel like this was like the Pete Davidson ariana
Grande thing, you know, where he was just like skyrocketed
into fame and.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He might be less fit. Travis might be less famous
than Pete. And she's infinitely more famous than Arion, if
that's even possible. Do you know what I mean? The
way it is.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Crazy, like she's dating the entire team, like you know
what I mean? Like the way it's just like the
ormalization the entire city or Kansas City is just.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Certainly healthy for everyone. It's certainly a thing. It's certainly
how we should interact with people we don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Wifties don't get mad at me. It's like a white
trash royal wedding.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yes, oh yes, I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
All of their all four of their names sound like
trailer companies. Taylor, Taylor and Swiss are two different types
of semi truck. Yeah, that's right, it it is. I'm
you know, it's fun for me and it's do I
did I think I would get a push notification about
an engagement to my phone from Adam Schefter. No, I
never thought NFL news would break on my phone about that.
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But it's it is what it is, and I'm trying
to keep it separate of everything and just be like,
this is kind of funny. Do I think their engagement
photo was ugly? Yes? What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Where is this weird?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I don't know why they went to the Shire to
get engaged. He's just simply too late.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That sounds sick, That sounds weird.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
But not for him. He's gonna be bumping his head everywhere.
Oh man, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Have a wizard. That's why he's always high.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
A wizard. Yeah, a Kelsey never arrives or always rives. Yeah, yeah,
I know, it's fun. It's ridiculous, it's this is going
to be a weird I don't know how how many
can say I am a can see Chiefs fan my
whole life. I grew up like eight minutes from the stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Even before tailor the Taylor Swish.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Really, I have two and fourteen seasons, horrible quarterbacks, everything
go into games in the ninth I grew nineties.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm born in eighty eight, been a fans since I
was born. I think I wish we could ease up
a little bit on the coverage.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Of this relationship. Well that's certainly going to happen now.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Of everything, every fan hopes their team will become like
weirdly successful enough to like. Because the Chiefs are always
the national game, always the weird documentary, always the web series,
always the feat I think we could take a break.
I would simply love to take a break from them
being the most every.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Over walking outside like please no pictures please.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
That's why I wear my Casey Currents hat set of
Chiefs hats.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Now I'm a Patriots fan, and I wish I'd try
not to talk about very often. But yeah, there was
a after like the first couple Super Bowls, it was
like all right, like I hope nobody pays any attention
to them anymore. And then Tom Brady, who was like
this dorky guy who's like his whole thing, was like, yeah,
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it's like late round pick who's just like kind of
managing the offense, turns into like a great player and
like a hunk, and he's like marrying Giselle, and it
was just like, oh, God, damn it, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Want to know.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You're not this scrappy little team and now our.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Team sucks it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It has had an economic boom for my hometown, which
is an interesting thing. It's it's it's you.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Know, it's exciting all this stuff that he got the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It really is. If it got all of the Olympic sports,
Americans care about the one and uh, the one. Yeah,
and it's not even in the Olympics, but it's it's ultimately,
you know, fun and interesting and people are talking about it,
which is fun, and it's it's very funny to see
like just a weird giant goofball shoot his shot on
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his own podcast and it work in such an immense
way amazing that's creating.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Wait do you how do you feel about all of
the like political commentary about like Mahomes and his family.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Ah, it is so I I don't. It's just if
anyone's surprised that grew up rich kids from Texas might
lean right. I think that they've maybe just been lying
to themselves about it the entire time. The Ultimately, Mahomes
I find to be potentially the most boring person who's
ever existed. He if not for his voice, we would
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have never remembered a single thing he's ever said about.
And he's oh no, actually I didn't see her, like
the picture on Instagram, Please come to my new steakhouse.
It's just everything.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Everything is you know, there's this is through so many
pr people and he's just kind of a boring The
athletes at this level are psychopath So the only thing
that's interesting to hear him talk about is how he's
actually crazy about like competition. Like you hear Tom Brady
talking about competition, you think he's a serial killer.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, And oh my god, this is like the Michael
Jordan thing.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, like the Michael Jordan making a documentary about his
own good teams. The year after Lebron James wins a
championship is just a crazy thing the green light where
you're like, he like it never goes away.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
But appear to have a pathological like weirdness about him
in the documentary and so that thing that that person
probably didn't say, I did that personally and let it
fuel me.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
For I invented that this person hated me so I
could ruin his life. Yes, exactly, they're all but.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
The politiclym of the greatest athletes of all time.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
You have to be otherwise you'd be a good person.
That's right. And I wish, I wish, I like, I
love Jalen Hurts, the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback, because he's like
explicitly outwardly a very good person. And see it just
like really really really like he's not he doesn't really
go seek out talking about political things, but he also
doesn't seem to avoid it.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And yeah, like recently he turned down some opportunity so
that low income housing wouldn't be like destroyed.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, and it's so easy thing that I really like that.
I wish Mahomes would would do that. He's just it's
so you.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Get Homes is busy naming his children like Brian and disappointment.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Absolutely. I mean you are literally named after the third
Place Metal.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I'm going to name my child Riley Gaines.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, his fourth kid is going to be named Ribbon.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Participation.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
They've done a lot of good things for the community
in Kansas City. His wife has been a big proponent
behind the women's soccer team getting a lot of funding,
and they actually have the only women's exclusive sports stadium
in the country and it was built for the Casey
Current who's I'm wearing here, And they're very good and
I love all that, but it's impossible to separate it
from like the you know, ultimately, I know that you
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are so disconnected from reality that you just want to
pay less taxes and you justify like the abuse of
lots of groups of people, so you can have like
a different fence, right, So what do I just I
unhealthily compartmentalize it. They're ultimately asking what it is?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
A different? A different sounds like Patrick Mahomes autobiography. He's like,
and I felt like I was on the side of
a different fence.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
You know, they say the grass is always greener, so
I bought both yards.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I can't do the voice. It's a little bit like Kermit.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
It's a lot like.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Powers.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
It is exactly yeah, which is the nicest. It sounds
like the coolest fucking person who's ever existed.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I know.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah. If his personality was also Kermit mixed with Kenny Powers,
would be in business. But unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, I feel like Kenny Powers on the field.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Similar like similar hair? Yeah yeah, anyway, hair? How do
I do?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
You know?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Blindness? Blind turn a blind eyed everything so I can
enjoy something.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Do you know what my my guilty pleasure is is
that I don't? This is so weird. I don't listen
to problematic artists on my own. But if they're playing
Michael Jackson in like a dunkin Donuts, I might enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
You know that dunked a bit longer.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
And it's like, no, she's moon walking back in. It
looks like she's leaving.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's like quitting smoking, where you're like, oh, I buy
it myself, but I will, I just do it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I just listened to Michael Jackson socially, it's only it's
only when I drink.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I've like multiple times been around people who who will
remind you that R Kelly's streaming rights now go to
charity for the victims. Oh yeah, and then so they're
very like it's like they're turning it up and saying that,
and it's like, I know, and I could tell you're
telling me because you felt weird about playing it.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's all right, Let's take a quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back, and what do we
want to talk about? We want to talk about wind power?
(41:55):
Or do we want to talk about Gwen Stefani Gwen Stefani.
Let's go wait, Kyle, do you have an opinion?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Well, I would say, according to a lot of people,
neither are very real.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
So we can all right, Well, now we have to
talk about wind power. So this is the thing that
Trump has been. It's been making headline Donald talks about. Yes,
Donald Trump. There is an old article in this in
the article that our writer jam put together where they
(42:27):
refer to him as like American tycoon Donald Trump because
it's like before he was president, so weird future. Donald
Trump has written to Scotland's first Minister.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Lyric reference, Donald J. Trump has written in so he's
very anti wind power. And the narratives that are making
it through to the mainstream. One is that he thinks
that wind power is responsible for killing one hundred and
sixty whales annually, and RFK Junior backed him up on that,
which is funny. The RFK just say birds, I know
(43:04):
there's so many birds to get killed, but whales, I
think they've found This is a spoiler alert, but this
whole all the anti wind arguments are like dark money
funded oil industry. Believe that.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I think he just hated parts of Captain Planet. He
was like wind was such a bitch.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, I think that could be it. But yeah, I
almost called him r Kelly, r f K Junior, r
f K E l o y r F Kelly is
it's funny for him to be worried about the wheels.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Because it's just a remix to agnition. It's like honey,
it's not hot and fresh out the kitchen. It's just
organic and raw out of the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It's not no seed, oils, blue metal or whatever it is. So,
first of all, the whale thing's not true. Also very
funny for the wait.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
For the whales to confirm that, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yes, a guy who chopped off a whale's head with
a chainsaw for to be the voice of like whale conservation,
but he's also asserted that Trump has also long asserted
that wind turbines make whales crazy. They make them crazy,
sometimes they kill them. There's no evidence for this.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think it's they're just like, oh, that fucking sound havings.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
I really don't ever want what he says to be true,
but this is one of the things that he said
that I wished was true. I would just love to
see that somehow the whale going crazy, right, maybe he
really anythings that the windpower made him jump over that
U pier.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
They're jumping around out there, They're coming up there, blowing
shit out of the top of their head. It's like
just normal whale behavior. But anyways, these are fixed statistics.
Bring a whale coke through its blowhole. All of the
excess whale deaths are caused by We'll get to some
like the main thing it's caused by, but you know,
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people hitting them with their fucking yachts.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
A yeah, just like depression, the dodge rams of the ocean.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
The blind spot in Zuckerberg's yacht is just clipping away
running over baby whales.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
There's also an origin story that's going around that, like
his hatred for wind turbines started when he was building
a golf course in Scotland and they built an offshore
wind farm near his luxury golf resort, and so exactly
he thought that's what was causing He got the cause
(45:38):
and effect backwards. He thought that the turbines were causing
the wind. He didn't.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
You could just see why he thinks stuff. He's so transparent.
He's someone built a wind turbine on water near something
he likes. So he says that they kill what's in water, right, Yeah,
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Very child coated logic.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, so that's that's the thing. That's how everybody is
interpreting it. The other thing that he said that like
keeps getting repeated by conservatives is like, yeah, but like
what do you do when the wind stops blowing? That
then like you're you're out of power, which is like
it's it's not I think they're relying on people who
have like their understanding of wind power is like mouse,
(46:24):
like running on a thing that's like making a bicycle
wheel move. That's me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
It's just like one to one poetic like the day
the wind died, right, Like it's so beautiful. Maybe they're
just they have a lot of on wheat, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Oh, I hope he appoints Rube Goldberg in charge of
energy for the country, right exactly. That's how we that's
how we power this man. He makes me toast in
the morning. It's very complicated.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Really sad that Rube Goldberg's first name was Rube. That's
kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
His parents were his parents looked at him as a baby,
and we're looking to fuck, we're gonna be able to
scam the shit out of this kid, Bill, right, But yeah,
so more recently suggesting that your power goes off AS's
not windy out. Now, he's really going after wind power legislatively,
(47:19):
a flurry of executive orders targeting wind turbines, The Big
Beautiful Bill specifically, is targeting clean energy funding all over
the place. In last week, his administration halted the construction
of a wind farm near Rhode Island that was eighty
percent complete. And they're just like, yeah, I don't know,
we there's problems. It's there's some concerns. Some they actually
(47:42):
went with there's some security concerns with the windmill, which
who the fuck knows what that could even possibly mean,
so all of this seems to be designed to suggest
that he is mad because he like when he was
younger a golf court, like on the way his golf course,
or that he's like too stupid to understand how windmills work.
(48:05):
And we've talked about the strategy recently. They're like weirdly,
when you go back through history, some of the biggest
monsters were kind of these like quirky, like Hitler had
the dumb mustache and you know, like they Missolini had,
like someone still in Argentina, yes, still has.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah it's very old and you imagine he didn't shave,
and so it's just so dumb. He is, yes, the
same mustache. So like it throws people off the scent
a little bit. Essentially, it like makes people be like, ah,
this is someone we make fun of. It's not someone
that we fear. And I feel like that's something I'm
(48:46):
noticing more and more with Trump, and like this strategy
of just pretending to be like dumb and silly and
like taking a walk on the White House roof and
you know, he may be suffering from some dementia, but
it doesn't make him like any less dangerous. But I
feel like by just like buying into those narratives that
he the only reason he's against wind energy is.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Because he's dumb. It like suggests that it's this surface
level thing when what's really happening is and we cover
this at the time during the election. Big oil spent
half a billion dollars last year to explicitly quote influence
Donald Trump and Congress, and he literally had a meeting
(49:30):
with oil executives at mar Lago in twenty twenty four,
Like this was reported on at the time. We talked
about it, where he promised them that he would do
whatever they wanted if they helped him win. Like literally
that was what he said to them.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
The concept of Donald Trump getting like influenced, He's like, oh,
maybe I should have some of these this tummy tuck
tea or whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yes, but in many ways they say I'm the ultimate influencer.
But he like him repeating shit about windpower causing whale
deaths and cancer is probably because that's exactly what the
oil industry like wants him to do. Fossil fuel companies
are have been shown to be behind those exact conspiracy theories,
(50:15):
and they use like dark money contributions to fund a
nationwide misinformation campaign against clean energy, and they've been doing
it for years, and so he's just he's just a fucking,
you know, megaphone for them to spread the same shit
that they've been trying to spread.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, I mean, I figured, I mean, it makes me
feel better making fun of him for being dumb. And
I'm sure that's exactly what I'm like facing that while
you're reading this, I'm like, yeah, it actually all makes
a lot of sense. And whether or not he is
smart dumb, he is, uh not, everyone is dumb around him, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
He's very useful.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
And by the way, the thing that is killing whales
besides you know, getting hit by yuts, is climate change
and oil spill.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Okay, also that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, and cocaine overdoses. As you guys mentioned earlier that
too many people have just given them too much cocaine.
But yeah, the planktin are the organisms in the ocean
that are affected by temperature change, and so it's not
good for the whales. I continue to think that we
(51:22):
need to learn and the.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Windmills are killing them, that's what you're saying. They have
to double threat one of these things we can help
and one of these things we can't. But yeah, I
think we should learn the names of oil executives and
like name our hurricanes after them. Yeah, we really, they really,
it's their anonymity is very precious. They do a good job.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Let's keep naming hurricanes after just women.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
It's a really bad one. Let's go with that's right, well, Kyle, Yeah,
it's wonderful having you as always.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, got to be here.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3 (52:04):
I'm at Kyle Ayers on most stuff in k Y
L E A Y E R S. And yeah, if
you are in New York, I'm doing a show off
Broadway for the September fourth to fourteenth at the Soho Playhouse.
I have an hour comedy show about a chronic pain
disorder I have. So I have a weird little brain disease.
I wrote a lot of jokes about it, and I
(52:25):
will be there for eleven shows and if it doesn't
go well the last show, I'm going to kill myself.
So I hope you guys come out to the no
I would I thought that's.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Actually a regular promise from a stand up comedian.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, yeah, but just at this point I would actually
monetize that. So yeah, so if you guys have two
B plus tune in for how that last show goes.
But yes, this soho Playhouse. Then if you're in New
York and if you I helped write and I'm on
a show called Amy's Dead and dream House, which is
a streaming on Nebula. It's like Pee Wee's Playhouse for
manic women adults and it's very funny and very colorful,
(52:59):
starring Maggie may Fish and it's really wonthful. And that
is on Nebula and you can check it out. Most
of the episodes are up, but there's still a couple
more to come. But yeah, Kyler's almost things. Thank you
for having me. It's fun to hear and laugh and
also listen and learn. And I sound like a notesapp
when I say.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
That, you sound like weapologize. I do about this person
who just like had two chat GPTs like talking to
one another and like they're like just they're like, it
was great talking to you, and I really appreciate your
support and it's wonderful having you and then like the
other one would be like and so much, we've's been
(53:38):
great hearing you and talking to you and experiencing you,
and they just like compliment each other, but they won't
let the other one have the last word.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
It's like when you said two furbies by each other. Yeah, exactly,
just keeps just touch and yes, hey, but thank you,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Is there work a media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (53:58):
You know, I there's a singer song writer in Los
Angeles named Sharon Silva who has this some new music out,
including the song People the Please, which I really like
Sharon Silva. And then I screenshot this tweet or thread
from Sam Wiles a while ago, and I put it
in here to say today, and it says zero stars
for the new Naked Gun movie. Was really hoping for
(54:18):
a meditation on grief, which really meant.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, they did fuck that up big time.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Cried the whole time. Two windshields, all those cops. Yeah. Uh,
Paul of you. Where can people find you as their
workimedia you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I'm in Chicago, baby, I am at Paula veganoll M
P A L L A B I GU and A
L A N everywhere facial recognition comedy Listen. Every month
I have to DM a bunch of people to come
because tickets are hard to sell everywhere in this fucking city.
But you should come if your TDZ head zeigang on
(55:02):
the nineteenth of September at ten pm at the Comedy
Store in the belly room and a work of have
you did you guys see the top ten top twenty
five list of influencers that came out according to a
Rolling Stone And then mister Beast got like really upset
and he wrote, according to this list, a guy with
one million followers is more influential than me. What did
(55:23):
I do to piss off the Rolling Stones? Which is
first of all hilarious?
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
And Caleb yeah yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:31):
And so Caleb came in number six and microplastics fracture
at Diabolical Spuds wrote this, mister Beast, I cannot respond
directly because you blocked me, but I wanted you to
know that Caleb is a comedian who makes many laugh
and you are some sort of Willy Wonka marionette being
puppeted by the algorithm. And I was like, what a
beautiful concise way to put what, mister beasts.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
If I had the money, could you imagine, you know
how not around or insecure. I would be if I
had money.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
I know. I mean, I assume there are plenty of
people who would be sending people to a dungeon and
escape and trying to get them to escape by like
clawing their way out, but like, at least it'd be funny.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
And you have to hope that mister Beast never reads
the cast of a Montiato, because otherwise he's going to
just try and make it with people to win six
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
He thought the Stanford prison experiment was aspirational.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
That's right. The instructions for how to go viral they
call it an experiment. You can find me on Twitter
at Jack Undersquirrel, Brian on Blue Sky at jack ob
the Number one. I just liked this potential opening for
an email from Lemon at nou Is York with two k's.
(56:50):
I hope this email blows your head smooth off. You
can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.
You can go to the description of this episode where
where like the notes happen on the episode, and down
below the description of what we talked about in this
(57:12):
episode you will find the footnotes. There's where we link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy superducer Justin Connor filling him for miles
while he's out. Is there a song that you think
the people might enjoy?
Speaker 7 (57:28):
Yeah, this is a song from a soundtrack off of
a PS four RPG I think from twenty sixteen called
Persona five.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
I've never played it.
Speaker 7 (57:37):
I'm not as familiar with it as Jack is, but
this track really stuck out to me.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
It hasn't on A five. Now you're taking me back
just yeah, I know my head.
Speaker 7 (57:51):
Has this down tempo, acid jazz feel of a group
like Zero seven. If you're familiar with them, you're probably
gonna like this. So this has been the mask by
Lynn and you can find that in the footnotes footnotes.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
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to do it for us this morning, but we are
back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and
we will talk to you all then.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
The Daily zeit Geist is executive produced by Catherine Law
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Co produced by Bee Wang, co produced by Victor Wright,
co written by J M McNabb, Edited and engineered by
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