November 12, 2025 • 28 mins
In this edition of EVERYBODY TRENDS NOW!, Jack and special guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan discuss those new Epstein emails, Trump being unpopular for some reason, Rockstar Games busting unions?, the death of the penny and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Everybody
trends Now. My name is Jackobrian. That over there is
today is very special guest co host. Hello Jack O'Brian.
You hello, you mischievous trap. Well I like this character. Paul.
(00:29):
How are you doing on this fun Wednesday, November twelfth.
I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know, things outside are bad, so I stay in,
you know, And that's how I that's how I handle.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't smart smart. That is so smart. I love
people telling each other that's so smart. Oh my god,
that's so smart.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's like, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I just like don't let reality in and like that
just helps me protect myself from you know, just like
bad vibes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I had a friend who never listens to this, and
she one time, one time she was talking to us,
she was like, you know, I'm like thinking all the time,
Like even when I'm on the treadmill, I'm still thinking.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Wait what We were like, that's crazy. Damn you never
fucking genius or something. That's nuts.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Dude, You're like you must be eight seventy at least.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, Uh, we we got some news today. We're
gonna dig into it a little bit more on tomorrow's episode,
but it's nice to say. Some emails have dropped from
both Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Epstein and those oh never mind.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, not those ones, by the way, but wildly offensive,
but I had to do it. So there's an email
from Epstein basically being like, you know, in twenty eleven,
as he's being investigated, being like, I'm essentially shocked that
they're not bringing up Donald Trump because he did all
(02:08):
these crimes that I'm being accused of with me called
him the dog that hasn't barked yet, and he.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Been like Epstein fifteen years ago was like, somebody's got
to arrest this guy about Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Somebody's got to stop him. What's it. Nobody's gonna stop him.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Not even this email in the future, No.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Way we'll get into the exact text. There's also another
one where Michael Wolfe is basically telling Jeffrey Epstein to
like blackmail Donald Trump, which has always been one of
the theories of the case of like what Epstein's whole
shit was about was like that he gets compromont on
people and then gets them to do gets powerful people
(02:51):
to do him favors. And then there's one where Epstein, like,
you know, seven months before his mysterious death, is saying, yeah,
of course Donald Trump knew about vic garrels, which is
real creepy to hear him describe people that way. Says, yeah,
you know, of course he knew about the girls because
(03:12):
he asked us to stop doing what we were doing,
which was sourcing the victims of his crimes from mar
A Lago. So Trump has specifically said like he didn't
know what was going on. He just told them to stop.
He's like, whatever, you know, whatever the stuff they were doing.
I was like, don't do that when in actually, so
(03:33):
what were they doing?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Were so closely associated with him and like being buddy
buddy with him years after this? What was what was
that about?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Uh? Too hard to say, so, Paul of the thing
you have to understand is this guy's dead. Okay, Okay,
guy's dead, So why are you bringing up old shit?
Is essentially their response the two non denial denials that
we've gotten so far, My two favorites at least, and
this is front pit like twelve point font headlines on
(04:07):
everywhere from like the New York Times to Drudge. Fox
News even wrote about it, but only wrote that.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right, fred Freudian slip banning the political spectrum.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
They don't want us to say the truth? Am I right?
But one person said, okay, well, these are cherry picked
from so that these are like three emails from a
trove of like ten thousand documents. Why aren't you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Reading the emails that aren't about Trump?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Why aren't you reading those? Why didn't you release all
ten thousand?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why don't you look at the words on the page
that aren't his name?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Why are you so chick? Is such a funny, Like
as Brian the editor put it, the cherry is still there.
Like that's not a denial. You're not just saying that
they picked the best ones, the most incriminating ones. Here's
a thing, though, they found the evidence of the crime.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's okay, fucking But the thing with the cherries you pick,
just put them the fuck back.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, could you not?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Could you not pick those cherries?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
What if you didn't do that? You're picking all the
best stuff from an abundance of good stuff. That's not
cool to us. Trump is also saying like smart Republicans
won't fall into the Epstein trap, and the I can
see how it looks like a Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Literally fell into the Epstein trap. So is he calling
himself stupid?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, it's like kind of too late for it to be, Like,
don't you fall for this thing I did.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Kids, when you're being a pedophile, make sure there's no
cameras or email.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
In the sense that it's going to be bad for you,
and a trap would also be bad for you. I
see the similarity, but it's it doesn't I have not
been fully convinced. It's hard to imagine how this doesn't
make him look more and more guilty, and it's not
common at a time of peak popularity for him.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just really wonder, like how is like I want
to know Marjorie Taylor Green's response, I want to know
the people because it's the fissure that's like really interesting
to me of like the faults of personality people and
like the people who are looking beyond Trump and like
how they're gonna move because I feel like they're kind
of the canary in the coal mine of like, oh,
(06:21):
is Trump gonna be installed as dictator in twenty twenty
eight or is he gonna Are they gonna find like
a puppet for him or are they going to go
in a completely different direction, and is that something we
need to be prepared for.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, it's it'll be interesting to see. I don't know,
like other other than just creating a conspiracy theory that
this is like all that the emails are fake or something,
you know, which I'm sure sure they'll do. Kirk Shooter
wrote them right on his bullets. I just feel like
(06:54):
it's going to be like this does seem to be
one place where they're like, no, no, no, we make up
the conspiracies about like the other people. You're supposed to
be the good guy in this, but then this keeps
making it hard for us to keep making up the
conspiracy theory where you're like doing everything you're doing to
catch the bad guys when there's emails from before QAnon
(07:16):
was even a thing where the guy who's like the
you know, mastermind of this whole vast conspiracy is like,
you know, what's weirdn Trump did all this stuff him,
So that's bad. We'll we'll talk more about it tomorrow
and continue to you know. But again, these are only
(07:38):
three of the documents, and I don't think it's like
three out of a huge trove of ones that are
because like, how are there going to be later emails
from Epstein being like psych that last one was jakaying
about that one.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I feel like, because find them if they aren't there.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, But he's also so Another thing, that Epstein thing
has seemed to cut into his popularity and into his
support in a way that nothing else really has been
able to before. Another thing that seems to be ticking
people right off for some reason is that everything's really
(08:19):
fucking expensive. Like this, what eggs cost?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What? One hundred dollars? Now, I don't know, I've never
been to the grocery store, but I'm sure it's fine
when you make you make fifty thousand a week?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Right, Well, what could bananas cost? Julane? But he ran
on this like this was, you know, very real issue
of everything costing way too much as a way to
attract voters. You know, he's like, prices will go down
on day one essentially. And I guess he didn't realize
(08:54):
that it would require him to betray his capitalists oligarchic
instincts and that he was going to have to tell
corporations to make less money because the public is now
fully in Fuck Trump. This guy's a liar about rising costs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Shit has been really troubling for like white business owners
who didn't realize it was bad before.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, also costing them money in that way. But so
the White House officials have been cooking up a way
to steady those numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And if you're asking, wait, so are they going to
ban price gouging? Are they going to ban dynamic pricing?
Are they going to you know, start demanding transparent pricing
for consumers new stimulus checks? Perhaps? No, they're going to
do a speaking tour where he will just gaslight his
cult members. Yeah, blame immigrants, I guess for infiltrating the
(09:57):
c suite of our food producing corporations. I'm not sure
exactly what the messaging is going to be, but they've
always been able to be pretty creative in their blaming.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I have a feeling cash buttail is going down and
he was passy this whole time.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, it was it was actually his fault. The prices
that I just.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Mean, like the Epstein stuff, and then that's going to
like distract again, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like
I feel like they're just gonna toss like some they're
just gonna.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Chum somebody's getting fired. Yeah. Sure, I don't like. His
speeches haven't been I don't know if you've noticed this,
they haven't been great. He like sort of has contempt
for people that point out that the prices are high
and claims they're not real Mega. If they if they
get frustrated with him, if people say, you know, Mega,
(10:46):
like your supporters seem frustrated, He's like, I am Mega,
like like a fucking movie bad guy, or like just
not not answering the questions or you know, addressing as
the concerns. Yeah, it just gets and says I'm maga.
There's no maga without me. I am the law. I
am the one who blocks.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, I'm trying. It's good, it's good. Senator Mark Wayne
Mullin aka Senator fight b Bro posted a picture over
the weekend talking about how they were getting work done
for the American people in the Oval Office when it
comes to prices, and people looked at the picture because
(11:27):
he's like Donald Trump is being handed a piece of
paper and then there's like papers scattered across his desk,
and people looked a little closer and noticed that the
papers on his desk are just his own tweets printed
out and Trump is just handing back a colorful bar
graph that he signed for some reason, and that's all
(11:48):
just And the only other thing on his desk besides
his own tweets printed out and a bar graph that
he has autographed is a bowl of caramel popcorn. Like
it's the third grade sleep of.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You gotta stop making him relatable. All I do is
watch my own Instagram stories over and over again and snack.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's all I do. That's right. But he needs some
printed out for him, which is pretty great, much.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I like that's pretty old school, you know, it's like
different to have a real book of tweets versus on
your kindle.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But yeah, it feels like he's incapable of doing the
most basic parts of being the president. He falls asleep
in public, has no idea what math is, and is
now trying to explain to people why he can't get
prices down, and like, as we met, like my theory
is just that as we are still in this like
(12:43):
you know, corporatist oligarchy era, the economy is going to continue.
It was the worst section. It was the she only
did like three songs from the capitalist corporatist oligarchy, like
things are going to be bad and people will get
(13:04):
increasingly mad at whoever is in power and the and
people will just vote back and forth for the other party.
He is more unpopular than he's ever been now in
the history of his presidency, including the day after January sixth,
So uh, nowhere to go. But uh you would think.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I also wonder like people are getting like physical in this,
Like we're literally fighting the government in the streets so
that we don't get like abducted or to have their
family members disappear. And it's like you're gonna you're gonna
keep doing this, You're gonna keep applying pressure, and then
you're gonna create this like pressure cooker of like anger.
(13:43):
There's gonna be people potentially getting you know, standing up
for themselves and in order to end doing that by
getting more violent because they're attacking us. And then it's
gonna be like military rule and we're gonna be North Korea.
Like what is the endgame for all of this? Like
I don't understand and how you expect people to stay
(14:03):
quiet or silent or not fight back, Like it doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It does remind me of the second Bush administration where
people were like, man, this is going to be bad,
and then it was bad, like right away, and his
popularity just kept going down and down and down and down,
and like, I don't see where he turns things around
unless he's like somehow willing to stop just giving corporations everything.
(14:33):
That right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
But the way I can see it him spinning it
or the Republican spinning it is the Democrats give them
reason to blame the dumbs, which they just fucking did.
So like that's that's my biggest thing, is like it's
not it's like it's on us to fuck up and
the House dums are going to do that, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. But like people generally blame the
president for the like for the economy and you doing bad.
Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk
about grand theft, Auto six and other stuff. We'll be
right back and we're back. Paul, Are you a country
(15:19):
Are you a country fan?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I love Beyonce?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah? Okay, so great, that's good. So you know how
Beyonce made country album? Well, may I introduce you to
the future of country music. It's the number one song
on Billboard's Country Digital Sales Chart by an AI generated
country called Breaking rust ew what that name sucks? Does
(15:48):
that even mean.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That imagery is like dry and cracked?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, like gross and like rust rust is easy to break,
like like I.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Mean a Baldwin did it is that? I'm so sorry,
I really.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
He broke the the financial viability of that movie. Say yeah,
but the name of the song is walk My Walk,
which sounds like a lazy AI trash. The lyrics are
been beat down but I don't stay low, mud got
on my jeans, still ready to go. It's like it's
(16:27):
just like, you know, uh, satire of a country song.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, but it's gonna be like but that's why you're like, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
They ate this the fuck up?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's it is like a very I've always
been like, I feel like music is one place where
AI is going to be useful for people to like
shit out music that is listenable, not good music, but
like music that could be a hit because a lot
of times the songs that do really well, like you
(16:58):
talk to musicians and they're like, well that song fucking sucks,
but it's like very simple and hummable, you know, Like
the songs that like get stuck in our head are
the ones that are easy to sing and ease, like
the notes are like close together, and there's like a
formula to it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I still feel like there's like a human like spontaneity
of like vocal like riffs or whatever, like Rihanna's famous
for like na nah not in there, you know what
I mean. Like it is formulaic, and I've seen people
do it with like Taylor Swift songs or whatever, like
recreating a formula for her. But I'm like, there's still
something human about it. And also I don't want my
(17:37):
fucking patriotism not only like boosted by bots, but now
created by bots like this white American patriotism.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, it's I don't think it's going to create a
sustainable like oh man, I love this artist who is
an AI algorithm. The song like sounds like an even
simpler version of Old Town Road, which itself was like
a very simple song. And I will just say it's
nowhere on the top one hundred most played songs on
(18:08):
Apple Music today in the United States, which is the
only place it would show up. It's like the world, which.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You know they don't want to see.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, but it does make me like a little suspicious,
and I've been waiting for AI companies to start like
doing a better job propagandizing AI, you know, like by
being like this song is actually incredibly popular and everybody
says this is the best YouTube clip of the day,
(18:36):
and it was made fully by AI art.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh my friends are here laughing with me. They're just
standing outside the picture.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, there's just like so much money at stake improving
their technology can create good art.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Kid Rock should be fucking trembling in his boots right now.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Ye will do a good job for you. I think
it will do a good job of like recreating formulaic,
which some popular music is. But I don't know. So
we'll see. We'll keep an eye on that one. See
if anybody ever like kind of looks into how real
those numbers are. We do want to talk about Grand
Theft Auto six. It was announced last week that GTA
(19:15):
six will be delayed yet again. It was supposed to
come out this year, and it became next May. Now
it's supposedly releasing in November twenty twenty six. Should humanity
last that long? Just this week, its trailer overtook Avengers
Infinity War to become the most viewed trailer in YouTube history.
(19:36):
So the hype is massive, which not a huge surprise
considering that Grand Theft Auto five was the most profitable
piece of media ever. The upcoming game even became a
talking point in Polish Parliament after a far right MP
suggested that the recent delay was disturbing in a huge
scandal and suggested that people take to the streets and protest.
(19:57):
The far right has a great sense of humor.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There goods in Polish concuence right now, that's crazy question.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
One good reason to be pissed off about the delay.
The news of the delay came two weeks after Rockstar
fired thirty developers in the UK. They claimed the companies
were fired for gross mith conduct related to allegedly sharing
company secrets online. Other workers are like, no, that was
like on a forum that we created that is a
(20:26):
private discord for Rockstar employees and we were talking about
unionizing and that was the grossmith conduct.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The Independent Workers Union of Great Britain announced that they're
planning legal action against the company, claiming the firing is
constitute trade union victimization and blacklisting. But the people who
were involved said that they were fired without warning evidence
or a chance to speak for themselves, and they were
talking with colleagues in a private union chat, not leaking
(20:57):
information outside the company, but because they were trying to
understand our workplace and make it better.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's actually the one thing you can't do in Grand
Theft Auto five is like you try to unionize and
then they kill you, So yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the one thing that's illegal. They delayed it to
like add side quests where you or union bust.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They're like, go to the Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Just drive through that crowd out there that next to
the giant inflatable rat. Another anonymous source claimed that some
of the fired workers had been with the company for
nearly two decades and had no history of infractions or
poor behavior during that time, and they were unionizing around
crunch pay and inflexible working arrangements. Which what is crunch
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So that's when video game developers are forced to work
within like working one hundred hour work weeks in order
to finish games. The one hundred hour work week is
a real thing that was happening in twenty eighteen as
they were trying to finish Red Dead Redemption, and the
company's founder openly talked about throwing out a vast array
(22:04):
of completed work, like as they were doing that crunch.
It just seems like it's like a really bad process
where they're just like people have to work amounts that
will make them like ill in order to you know,
and get.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
These out like lucky enough to keep their jobs.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yes, so Rockstar hasn't confirmed that the reason delay was
due to the firings, but people familiar with the employees
who were let go said the people that go recently
held key positions that could not easily be replaced, so
didn't help. This is not the first time video game
developers have struggle to unionize, including one studio that you
(22:46):
know was union busting and that company was literally named
Proletariat inc.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
My good.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Of politics. It is also worth noting that the first
game or the last game was the most profitable piece
of media ever. Like profit, that's the profit, that's the
difference between what it cost to make it and what
it brought in. And these are like all they're asking
is like, I don't know, to add workers so they
(23:17):
don't have to work one hundred hours a week. And
they're like, actually, because you asked that, you're fired. This
is what is right.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Side of people advocating for their rights, like they're so scared.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Shitless, yeah, which is it's just so wid because like
that is how things are set up. Is that like
you can't just be like, well that was like super
profitable and now this next one, we're going to do
it in a way that like doesn't you know, make
our workers, you know, have breakdowns and just make it
slightly less profitable. Because the way that Wall Street operates
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is just like, Okay, well, how do you increase profitability
over the last thing you did? It's just like yeah, okay,
so it needs to do better than the last thing
you did, no matter what, even if the last thing
you did was like we like hurt people to get
to make things as possible as it was, you.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Know, which means like the last product you made it
has to do better than like the people who made it,
Like right, yeah, the next generation has to eat shit
for us to meet our numbers.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, and finally, we want a bit of fun. Farewell
to the penny. The Federal Mint in Philadelphia struck its
final penny to day. We've talked before about the true
cost of making a penny is now three point six
nine cents because literally everything is getting more expensive, and
you know, you might notice that as two point six
(24:45):
nine cents less valuable than what the penny actually represents.
So it just seems like now we'll just have to
round transactions to the nearest nickel from now on, because like,
people want to take.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
More money by this saut from us.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Exactly, it's definitely not gonna be rounded down.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's gonna be dollar stores instead of ninety nine I
know that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah. Literally, they're not gonna go down to seventy five
cents stores or ninety five cent stores. That's for damn sure.
Everything is bad.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
This is the opposite of the Lego song.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The cost to consumers of rounding transactions to the nearest
nickel is estimated to be around six million dollars. The
cost to round to the nearest dime is closer to
fifty six million dollars, so watch out for that. But
nickels also cost more to produce than they're worth, and
so people are thinking that Jesus Christ, they're gonna phase
(25:40):
those out, at which point they start rounding to the
nearest done old bar, start rounding to the nearest gold bar. Yeah. Well,
just like how many gold bars you got on you. Yeah,
we'll take that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
My purse is gonna help me a lot in walking
to my car, but I will be mugg more frequently.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's right, just whacking people with bags of nickels. I mean,
one way or another. We're headed towards the future where
we have to weigh our money like on a scale,
you know. That's yeah, that's where it's good. That's where
it's headed. So that's the good news. That's the good
news for today. We are back tomorrow with the whole
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last episode of the show. Until then, paul of you,
where can people find you? Follow you, see you all
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm at Paula Viganala and p A L l A
v I g U n A l A n everywhere
except for Blue Sky, where I'm just Paula VI. We
have Facial Recognition Comedy on November twenty first, ten pm
at the Comedy Store. It's going to be really fun
and I also have second screens with Madison Shepherd and
Brandy Posey December first at the Allegian Side Room the
(26:53):
Skunk Room. Bring your phones, your iPads, your projectors, anything
you want to bring to look at. This show is
for our ADHD heads who don't want their phones confiscated
at a comedy show, you will not be considered rude.
We will also be on our phones, and you should
come through and buy a.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ticket unless it's like temporarily confiscated because you're like, whoa,
what is that? That so good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Change, Let's look at YouTube videos like after a party.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You seen this YouTube video? Yeah, that sounds super fun.
Can't wait to check that out. All right, that's gonna
do it for us on this Wednesday afternoon. We're back
tomorrow with a whole lst episode of the show. Until then,
be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
your vaccines while you still can't get your flu shot.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
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to y'all tomorrow. Bye bye, ma ban no ma am.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Everybody
trends Now. My name is Jackobrian. That over there is
today is very special guest co host. Hello Jack O'Brian.
You hello, you mischievous trap. Well I like this character. Paul.
(00:29):
How are you doing on this fun Wednesday, November twelfth.
I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know, things outside are bad, so I stay in,
you know, And that's how I that's how I handle.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't smart smart. That is so smart. I love
people telling each other that's so smart. Oh my god,
that's so smart.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's like, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I just like don't let reality in and like that
just helps me protect myself from you know, just like
bad vibes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I had a friend who never listens to this, and
she one time, one time she was talking to us,
she was like, you know, I'm like thinking all the time,
Like even when I'm on the treadmill, I'm still thinking.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Wait what We were like, that's crazy. Damn you never
fucking genius or something. That's nuts.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Dude, You're like you must be eight seventy at least.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, Uh, we we got some news today. We're
gonna dig into it a little bit more on tomorrow's episode,
but it's nice to say. Some emails have dropped from
both Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Epstein and those oh never mind.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, not those ones, by the way, but wildly offensive,
but I had to do it. So there's an email
from Epstein basically being like, you know, in twenty eleven,
as he's being investigated, being like, I'm essentially shocked that
they're not bringing up Donald Trump because he did all
(02:08):
these crimes that I'm being accused of with me called
him the dog that hasn't barked yet, and he.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Been like Epstein fifteen years ago was like, somebody's got
to arrest this guy about Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Somebody's got to stop him. What's it. Nobody's gonna stop him.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Not even this email in the future, No.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Way we'll get into the exact text. There's also another
one where Michael Wolfe is basically telling Jeffrey Epstein to
like blackmail Donald Trump, which has always been one of
the theories of the case of like what Epstein's whole
shit was about was like that he gets compromont on
people and then gets them to do gets powerful people
(02:51):
to do him favors. And then there's one where Epstein, like,
you know, seven months before his mysterious death, is saying, yeah,
of course Donald Trump knew about vic garrels, which is
real creepy to hear him describe people that way. Says, yeah,
you know, of course he knew about the girls because
(03:12):
he asked us to stop doing what we were doing,
which was sourcing the victims of his crimes from mar
A Lago. So Trump has specifically said like he didn't
know what was going on. He just told them to stop.
He's like, whatever, you know, whatever the stuff they were doing.
I was like, don't do that when in actually, so
(03:33):
what were they doing?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Were so closely associated with him and like being buddy
buddy with him years after this? What was what was
that about?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Uh? Too hard to say, so, Paul of the thing
you have to understand is this guy's dead. Okay, Okay,
guy's dead, So why are you bringing up old shit?
Is essentially their response the two non denial denials that
we've gotten so far, My two favorites at least, and
this is front pit like twelve point font headlines on
(04:07):
everywhere from like the New York Times to Drudge. Fox
News even wrote about it, but only wrote that.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right, fred Freudian slip banning the political spectrum.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
They don't want us to say the truth? Am I right?
But one person said, okay, well, these are cherry picked
from so that these are like three emails from a
trove of like ten thousand documents. Why aren't you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Reading the emails that aren't about Trump?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Why aren't you reading those? Why didn't you release all
ten thousand?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why don't you look at the words on the page
that aren't his name?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Why are you so chick? Is such a funny, Like
as Brian the editor put it, the cherry is still there.
Like that's not a denial. You're not just saying that
they picked the best ones, the most incriminating ones. Here's
a thing, though, they found the evidence of the crime.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's okay, fucking But the thing with the cherries you pick,
just put them the fuck back.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, could you not?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Could you not pick those cherries?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
What if you didn't do that? You're picking all the
best stuff from an abundance of good stuff. That's not
cool to us. Trump is also saying like smart Republicans
won't fall into the Epstein trap, and the I can
see how it looks like a Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Literally fell into the Epstein trap. So is he calling
himself stupid?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, it's like kind of too late for it to be, Like,
don't you fall for this thing I did.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Kids, when you're being a pedophile, make sure there's no
cameras or email.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
In the sense that it's going to be bad for you,
and a trap would also be bad for you. I
see the similarity, but it's it doesn't I have not
been fully convinced. It's hard to imagine how this doesn't
make him look more and more guilty, and it's not
common at a time of peak popularity for him.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just really wonder, like how is like I want
to know Marjorie Taylor Green's response, I want to know
the people because it's the fissure that's like really interesting
to me of like the faults of personality people and
like the people who are looking beyond Trump and like
how they're gonna move because I feel like they're kind
of the canary in the coal mine of like, oh,
(06:21):
is Trump gonna be installed as dictator in twenty twenty
eight or is he gonna Are they gonna find like
a puppet for him or are they going to go
in a completely different direction, and is that something we
need to be prepared for.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, it's it'll be interesting to see. I don't know,
like other other than just creating a conspiracy theory that
this is like all that the emails are fake or something,
you know, which I'm sure sure they'll do. Kirk Shooter
wrote them right on his bullets. I just feel like
(06:54):
it's going to be like this does seem to be
one place where they're like, no, no, no, we make up
the conspiracies about like the other people. You're supposed to
be the good guy in this, but then this keeps
making it hard for us to keep making up the
conspiracy theory where you're like doing everything you're doing to
catch the bad guys when there's emails from before QAnon
(07:16):
was even a thing where the guy who's like the
you know, mastermind of this whole vast conspiracy is like,
you know, what's weirdn Trump did all this stuff him,
So that's bad. We'll we'll talk more about it tomorrow
and continue to you know. But again, these are only
(07:38):
three of the documents, and I don't think it's like
three out of a huge trove of ones that are
because like, how are there going to be later emails
from Epstein being like psych that last one was jakaying
about that one.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I feel like, because find them if they aren't there.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, But he's also so Another thing, that Epstein thing
has seemed to cut into his popularity and into his
support in a way that nothing else really has been
able to before. Another thing that seems to be ticking
people right off for some reason is that everything's really
(08:19):
fucking expensive. Like this, what eggs cost?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What? One hundred dollars? Now, I don't know, I've never
been to the grocery store, but I'm sure it's fine
when you make you make fifty thousand a week?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Right, Well, what could bananas cost? Julane? But he ran
on this like this was, you know, very real issue
of everything costing way too much as a way to
attract voters. You know, he's like, prices will go down
on day one essentially. And I guess he didn't realize
(08:54):
that it would require him to betray his capitalists oligarchic
instincts and that he was going to have to tell
corporations to make less money because the public is now
fully in Fuck Trump. This guy's a liar about rising costs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Shit has been really troubling for like white business owners
who didn't realize it was bad before.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, also costing them money in that way. But so
the White House officials have been cooking up a way
to steady those numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And if you're asking, wait, so are they going to
ban price gouging? Are they going to ban dynamic pricing?
Are they going to you know, start demanding transparent pricing
for consumers new stimulus checks? Perhaps? No, they're going to
do a speaking tour where he will just gaslight his
cult members. Yeah, blame immigrants, I guess for infiltrating the
(09:57):
c suite of our food producing corporations. I'm not sure
exactly what the messaging is going to be, but they've
always been able to be pretty creative in their blaming.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I have a feeling cash buttail is going down and
he was passy this whole time.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, it was it was actually his fault. The prices
that I just.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Mean, like the Epstein stuff, and then that's going to
like distract again, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like
I feel like they're just gonna toss like some they're
just gonna.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Chum somebody's getting fired. Yeah. Sure, I don't like. His
speeches haven't been I don't know if you've noticed this,
they haven't been great. He like sort of has contempt
for people that point out that the prices are high
and claims they're not real Mega. If they if they
get frustrated with him, if people say, you know, Mega,
(10:46):
like your supporters seem frustrated, He's like, I am Mega,
like like a fucking movie bad guy, or like just
not not answering the questions or you know, addressing as
the concerns. Yeah, it just gets and says I'm maga.
There's no maga without me. I am the law. I
am the one who blocks.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, I'm trying. It's good, it's good. Senator Mark Wayne
Mullin aka Senator fight b Bro posted a picture over
the weekend talking about how they were getting work done
for the American people in the Oval Office when it
comes to prices, and people looked at the picture because
(11:27):
he's like Donald Trump is being handed a piece of
paper and then there's like papers scattered across his desk,
and people looked a little closer and noticed that the
papers on his desk are just his own tweets printed
out and Trump is just handing back a colorful bar
graph that he signed for some reason, and that's all
(11:48):
just And the only other thing on his desk besides
his own tweets printed out and a bar graph that
he has autographed is a bowl of caramel popcorn. Like
it's the third grade sleep of.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You gotta stop making him relatable. All I do is
watch my own Instagram stories over and over again and snack.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's all I do. That's right. But he needs some
printed out for him, which is pretty great, much.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I like that's pretty old school, you know, it's like
different to have a real book of tweets versus on
your kindle.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But yeah, it feels like he's incapable of doing the
most basic parts of being the president. He falls asleep
in public, has no idea what math is, and is
now trying to explain to people why he can't get
prices down, and like, as we met, like my theory
is just that as we are still in this like
(12:43):
you know, corporatist oligarchy era, the economy is going to continue.
It was the worst section. It was the she only
did like three songs from the capitalist corporatist oligarchy, like
things are going to be bad and people will get
(13:04):
increasingly mad at whoever is in power and the and
people will just vote back and forth for the other party.
He is more unpopular than he's ever been now in
the history of his presidency, including the day after January sixth,
So uh, nowhere to go. But uh you would think.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I also wonder like people are getting like physical in this,
Like we're literally fighting the government in the streets so
that we don't get like abducted or to have their
family members disappear. And it's like you're gonna you're gonna
keep doing this, You're gonna keep applying pressure, and then
you're gonna create this like pressure cooker of like anger.
(13:43):
There's gonna be people potentially getting you know, standing up
for themselves and in order to end doing that by
getting more violent because they're attacking us. And then it's
gonna be like military rule and we're gonna be North Korea.
Like what is the endgame for all of this? Like
I don't understand and how you expect people to stay
(14:03):
quiet or silent or not fight back, Like it doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It does remind me of the second Bush administration where
people were like, man, this is going to be bad,
and then it was bad, like right away, and his
popularity just kept going down and down and down and down,
and like, I don't see where he turns things around
unless he's like somehow willing to stop just giving corporations everything.
(14:33):
That right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
But the way I can see it him spinning it
or the Republican spinning it is the Democrats give them
reason to blame the dumbs, which they just fucking did.
So like that's that's my biggest thing, is like it's
not it's like it's on us to fuck up and
the House dums are going to do that, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. But like people generally blame the
president for the like for the economy and you doing bad.
Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk
about grand theft, Auto six and other stuff. We'll be
right back and we're back. Paul, Are you a country
(15:19):
Are you a country fan?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I love Beyonce?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah? Okay, so great, that's good. So you know how
Beyonce made country album? Well, may I introduce you to
the future of country music. It's the number one song
on Billboard's Country Digital Sales Chart by an AI generated
country called Breaking rust ew what that name sucks? Does
(15:48):
that even mean.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That imagery is like dry and cracked?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, like gross and like rust rust is easy to break,
like like I.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Mean a Baldwin did it is that? I'm so sorry,
I really.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
He broke the the financial viability of that movie. Say yeah,
but the name of the song is walk My Walk,
which sounds like a lazy AI trash. The lyrics are
been beat down but I don't stay low, mud got
on my jeans, still ready to go. It's like it's
(16:27):
just like, you know, uh, satire of a country song.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, but it's gonna be like but that's why you're like, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
They ate this the fuck up?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's it is like a very I've always
been like, I feel like music is one place where
AI is going to be useful for people to like
shit out music that is listenable, not good music, but
like music that could be a hit because a lot
of times the songs that do really well, like you
(16:58):
talk to musicians and they're like, well that song fucking sucks,
but it's like very simple and hummable, you know, Like
the songs that like get stuck in our head are
the ones that are easy to sing and ease, like
the notes are like close together, and there's like a
formula to it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I still feel like there's like a human like spontaneity
of like vocal like riffs or whatever, like Rihanna's famous
for like na nah not in there, you know what
I mean. Like it is formulaic, and I've seen people
do it with like Taylor Swift songs or whatever, like
recreating a formula for her. But I'm like, there's still
something human about it. And also I don't want my
(17:37):
fucking patriotism not only like boosted by bots, but now
created by bots like this white American patriotism.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, it's I don't think it's going to create a
sustainable like oh man, I love this artist who is
an AI algorithm. The song like sounds like an even
simpler version of Old Town Road, which itself was like
a very simple song. And I will just say it's
nowhere on the top one hundred most played songs on
(18:08):
Apple Music today in the United States, which is the
only place it would show up. It's like the world, which.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
You know they don't want to see.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, but it does make me like a little suspicious,
and I've been waiting for AI companies to start like
doing a better job propagandizing AI, you know, like by
being like this song is actually incredibly popular and everybody
says this is the best YouTube clip of the day,
(18:36):
and it was made fully by AI art.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh my friends are here laughing with me. They're just
standing outside the picture.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, there's just like so much money at stake improving
their technology can create good art.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Kid Rock should be fucking trembling in his boots right now.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Ye will do a good job for you. I think
it will do a good job of like recreating formulaic,
which some popular music is. But I don't know. So
we'll see. We'll keep an eye on that one. See
if anybody ever like kind of looks into how real
those numbers are. We do want to talk about Grand
Theft Auto six. It was announced last week that GTA
(19:15):
six will be delayed yet again. It was supposed to
come out this year, and it became next May. Now
it's supposedly releasing in November twenty twenty six. Should humanity
last that long? Just this week, its trailer overtook Avengers
Infinity War to become the most viewed trailer in YouTube history.
(19:36):
So the hype is massive, which not a huge surprise
considering that Grand Theft Auto five was the most profitable
piece of media ever. The upcoming game even became a
talking point in Polish Parliament after a far right MP
suggested that the recent delay was disturbing in a huge
scandal and suggested that people take to the streets and protest.
(19:57):
The far right has a great sense of humor.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There goods in Polish concuence right now, that's crazy question.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
One good reason to be pissed off about the delay.
The news of the delay came two weeks after Rockstar
fired thirty developers in the UK. They claimed the companies
were fired for gross mith conduct related to allegedly sharing
company secrets online. Other workers are like, no, that was
like on a forum that we created that is a
(20:26):
private discord for Rockstar employees and we were talking about
unionizing and that was the grossmith conduct.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The Independent Workers Union of Great Britain announced that they're
planning legal action against the company, claiming the firing is
constitute trade union victimization and blacklisting. But the people who
were involved said that they were fired without warning evidence
or a chance to speak for themselves, and they were
talking with colleagues in a private union chat, not leaking
(20:57):
information outside the company, but because they were trying to
understand our workplace and make it better.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's actually the one thing you can't do in Grand
Theft Auto five is like you try to unionize and
then they kill you, So yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the one thing that's illegal. They delayed it to
like add side quests where you or union bust.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They're like, go to the Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Just drive through that crowd out there that next to
the giant inflatable rat. Another anonymous source claimed that some
of the fired workers had been with the company for
nearly two decades and had no history of infractions or
poor behavior during that time, and they were unionizing around
crunch pay and inflexible working arrangements. Which what is crunch
(21:43):
So that's when video game developers are forced to work
within like working one hundred hour work weeks in order
to finish games. The one hundred hour work week is
a real thing that was happening in twenty eighteen as
they were trying to finish Red Dead Redemption, and the
company's founder openly talked about throwing out a vast array
(22:04):
of completed work, like as they were doing that crunch.
It just seems like it's like a really bad process
where they're just like people have to work amounts that
will make them like ill in order to you know,
and get.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
These out like lucky enough to keep their jobs.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yes, so Rockstar hasn't confirmed that the reason delay was
due to the firings, but people familiar with the employees
who were let go said the people that go recently
held key positions that could not easily be replaced, so
didn't help. This is not the first time video game
developers have struggle to unionize, including one studio that you
(22:46):
know was union busting and that company was literally named
Proletariat inc.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
My good.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Of politics. It is also worth noting that the first
game or the last game was the most profitable piece
of media ever. Like profit, that's the profit, that's the
difference between what it cost to make it and what
it brought in. And these are like all they're asking
is like, I don't know, to add workers so they
(23:17):
don't have to work one hundred hours a week. And
they're like, actually, because you asked that, you're fired. This
is what is right.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Side of people advocating for their rights, like they're so scared.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Shitless, yeah, which is it's just so wid because like
that is how things are set up. Is that like
you can't just be like, well that was like super
profitable and now this next one, we're going to do
it in a way that like doesn't you know, make
our workers, you know, have breakdowns and just make it
slightly less profitable. Because the way that Wall Street operates
(23:53):
is just like, Okay, well, how do you increase profitability
over the last thing you did? It's just like yeah, okay,
so it needs to do better than the last thing
you did, no matter what, even if the last thing
you did was like we like hurt people to get
to make things as possible as it was, you.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Know, which means like the last product you made it
has to do better than like the people who made it,
Like right, yeah, the next generation has to eat shit
for us to meet our numbers.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, and finally, we want a bit of fun. Farewell
to the penny. The Federal Mint in Philadelphia struck its
final penny to day. We've talked before about the true
cost of making a penny is now three point six
nine cents because literally everything is getting more expensive, and
you know, you might notice that as two point six
(24:45):
nine cents less valuable than what the penny actually represents.
So it just seems like now we'll just have to
round transactions to the nearest nickel from now on, because like,
people want to take.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
More money by this saut from us.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Exactly, it's definitely not gonna be rounded down.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's gonna be dollar stores instead of ninety nine I
know that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah. Literally, they're not gonna go down to seventy five
cents stores or ninety five cent stores. That's for damn sure.
Everything is bad.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
This is the opposite of the Lego song.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The cost to consumers of rounding transactions to the nearest
nickel is estimated to be around six million dollars. The
cost to round to the nearest dime is closer to
fifty six million dollars, so watch out for that. But
nickels also cost more to produce than they're worth, and
so people are thinking that Jesus Christ, they're gonna phase
(25:40):
those out, at which point they start rounding to the
nearest done old bar, start rounding to the nearest gold bar. Yeah. Well,
just like how many gold bars you got on you. Yeah,
we'll take that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
My purse is gonna help me a lot in walking
to my car, but I will be mugg more frequently.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's right, just whacking people with bags of nickels. I mean,
one way or another. We're headed towards the future where
we have to weigh our money like on a scale,
you know. That's yeah, that's where it's good. That's where
it's headed. So that's the good news. That's the good
news for today. We are back tomorrow with the whole
(26:23):
last episode of the show. Until then, paul of you,
where can people find you? Follow you, see you all
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm at Paula Viganala and p A L l A
v I g U n A l A n everywhere
except for Blue Sky, where I'm just Paula VI. We
have Facial Recognition Comedy on November twenty first, ten pm
at the Comedy Store. It's going to be really fun
and I also have second screens with Madison Shepherd and
Brandy Posey December first at the Allegian Side Room the
(26:53):
Skunk Room. Bring your phones, your iPads, your projectors, anything
you want to bring to look at. This show is
for our ADHD heads who don't want their phones confiscated
at a comedy show, you will not be considered rude.
We will also be on our phones, and you should
come through and buy a.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Ticket unless it's like temporarily confiscated because you're like, whoa,
what is that? That so good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Change, Let's look at YouTube videos like after a party.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You seen this YouTube video? Yeah, that sounds super fun.
Can't wait to check that out. All right, that's gonna
do it for us on this Wednesday afternoon. We're back
tomorrow with a whole lst episode of the show. Until then,
be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
your vaccines while you still can't get your flu shot.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
(27:44):
to y'all tomorrow. Bye bye, ma ban no ma am.
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