eVeRyOnE iS a PaiD pRoTeStOr, Alpha Male Snuggles 10.16.25

In episode 1948, Jack and Miles are joined by musician, poet, activist, and host of Hood Politics, Jason Petty AKA Propaganda, to discuss… They Are Trying To 'INFANT-DIED-DRUG-FIRE-MASS-SHOOTINGS' The No Kings Demonstrations, I AM A MANNNNNNNNNNN and more!

1. Mike Johnson: "This hate America rally that they have coming up for October 18?
2. Sen. Roger Marshall: "October 18 is when the protest gets here. This will be a Soros paid-for protest for his professional protesters."
3. I AM A MANNNNNNNNNNN

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Do you remember bum equipment, Jason, No, it was like
b dot U dot M.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
What does that stand for?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Be unique?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I was like, wait, no, I do remember bumb equipment.
It doesn't technically stand for anything. I don't think it
stood for anything for anything under Wikipedia in liars, bro,
why the fuck bum equipment used to stand for something?
Man here telling me I was walking around with the

(00:37):
fucking oversized bumb equipment cruise crew neck sweatshirt and it
didn't mean anything. This can't be the same bumb equipment.
I remember, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It don't look like it. I just googled bumbaqui.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was like, this don't look like I don't see
the vintage shit like you need.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Like faded T shirts, that's what I remember. Yeah, I
remember that faded T shirts are faded like sweatshirts. It's
like beach ship bump, sticky bump, sticky bumm.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
That I got the fun.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm like that Pinocchio's nose. Yes, because I'm a super
pro to.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
More sausages.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Mom, please please say. I didn't know a single one
of those references, but I knew every word to that song.
I knew the knee bones connected to my like, yeah, yeah,
I knew the nursery rhyme ones.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah, y'all know that. That's I mean, like hard
on on Mama's. That's the kind of the origin story
of Dreadlocks for me was like was.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Effects, Yes, that's the origin story of c ds for
me because it was the.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
First yeah, I ever got DOS Effects and then Souls
the Mischief because of A plus. I was like, this
is because he was a cause. I was like, Okay,
this is Cali. I could do this man who yeah,
walking around in ninety degree weather being busted to the
Inland Empire and a big old hoodie and Timberland's just
trying to look like looked.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like you were in New York City. Yeah. Remember Lucy's
from the Doz Effects album because it's about diarrhea.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It was like, I thought, you know, New York Lucies
is like a single cigarette and that song is just
about about trying to fuck someone and then getting diarrhea
in the middle of the place.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Playing basketball, playing basketball, I made it to the whole
leave trying to tail the dookie.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'll never forget the day I met Lucy the Lucy's
I think.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I still I think you could put that album on
Dead Series and I could probably wrap it from top
to bottom.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Still, yeah, I knew I had to hush when I felt.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I needed me up Bush, like he said, I remember,
I wanted they want to Effect singles. So there's like
the one time my dad was like, oh I like
that song too, so we bought the album. But I
only wanted to fucking play they Want Effects.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Over and over and over.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah. That It wasn't until like maybe I got older
that I started listening to the whole album and I
was like, oh, so I don't have to play track
three over and over on this.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
You're getting a similar thing on all the tracks, that
same style.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, but it was definitely like I remember that Mike
Cheka was the MAXI single. I remember that, and then
and then they shot the video because that was the
lead single, and then and then they off. Yeah, so
like but they they actually they they actually built the
bank on microphone checkay, just that just didn't hit like
bump sticky, bump sticky.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Damn that came That shit came out three weeks before
the riots.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Pressage the riots too many ways Yeah, Hello the Internet,
and welcome to season four to ten, Episode three of
Daily Guys. It was the production of iHeart Radios, the
podcast where we take a deep down in the America
share consciousness.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's for damn sure. It's Thursday, October sixteenth, twenty twenty
five miles. Yeah sixteen.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Good seen, good buddy, do you too? It's good. Get
to know your customers.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
What the fucker? But National Sports Day? Okay, shout out
Sports National Actually, Cure Day departments, sore Day. What are
those hy Day? That's where they put up the bubble
Museum or whatever. Yeah, in that Instagram actual fee Yeah,
Selfie Festival and National Bosses Day. Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Hey, shout out Rick Rosso Yeah, particularly Rick Rosses. Yeah,
shout out all the correction officers out there.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Here are the Daily Side. We stand with our cre They'll.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Say, Rick ross is a co Let's never forget that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka, I want my chicken
ligaments too. Snap one eye, bite on down, baby baby.
That one courtesy of SMARTFUELA on the discord, as we
talked about the importance of ligaments yesterday, both in terms
of being able to operate one's body, whether whether you're

(05:30):
a human or an animal, those ligaments, but also the
importance of texturally the ligaments when you're when you're eating
chicken wings. I want my ligaments to crunch. I want
I want that crunch. I don'tant I don't want stringy
ligaments from chickens that have been doing yoga. I want
I want them tight and yeah, crunchy.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
This sounds like a farm podcast. Like you anyway, they
also they're crunching too. You want to try a sample them.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
host mister Miles.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Grass Miles Gray Gay.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
The showgun would open the Lord of Lancersham.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Just celebrating the Los Angeles Dodgers despite their terrible antics
in terms of sticking up for the people of Los Angeles.
That's the one thing of a little moment of respite
that a sports team offers you as it distracts you
and you say, yeah, man, we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
And man, the way the players are handling man that
that first home run they were galloped up and then
we're saying.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Oh, hold hold my beer. Hold this brought the brought
the volume down. I was telling my friend, this is
as a like lifelong Dodger fund. I'm like, oh, we're
fucking evil now.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like, yeah, we're gross, We're gross nasty.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I love just see the joy drain from the faces
of the children at the opposed King's Ballpark. Yes, fucked up, Miles.
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a brilliant poet, political activist, academic MC and podcast hosts
of the wonderful podcast Hood Politics with prop on Cool

(07:12):
Zone Media. It's the brilliant and talented Jason Petty aka propaganda.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, propaganda aka I sell black coffee, Bay, I get
a high off the caffeine and nobody be Hey, rest
in peace to the King of Nels. Listen who had
us down bad on that? How does it feel?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Video?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You're speculating what is gen Z gonna have their moment?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And Jen Alfo where they go? Who is this?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
What the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I hope so, I hope so for for for their
for their sexual awakening. I I have never been more insecure.
I remember like just runing to the screen to cover it.
You know, when you're on a date, like hey, let's
go see DiAngelo. Appolutely not we are not gonna go
see DiAngelo. First of all, tell me you're okay with
how I look? Yes, first of all, yes, because we're

(08:08):
not me. I just want you, beautiful body.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yes, you chose me, you were saying, but soaking wet, We're.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Okay, we could what could go wrong?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I mean his music is fine. I've never seen him.
I've just the album cover seems fine. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah that video, dude.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I remember specifically this girl was dating at the time,
so she's what the funniest girls ever, right, But she
would like on that video, she would go like she'd
go up to the screen of the team.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I was just joy trying to do that all the time.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
She would be like, your face is touching the screens
like I was like, it's I was like, it says
work that way. Man. You know it's a fixed image, right,
it's not three It's not like a box where you
just get.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Over the edge of it and then you go see. Yeah,
I just really detectively shaft.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yes, my editor was friend.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
The editor was talking about there's a reaction video somebody
watch in that for the first time, and she just
keeps saying, I love my husband.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I love my husband.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I love my husband.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, my husband, I love my husband. I was like,
we are lesser men. Yeah, the end of that, I
was like, yeah, no, this is unfair, bro, Why you
do that to us?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
On me?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
He was giving us beautiful I know you was giving
us this beautiful like Jay Dilla, drums, R and B.
It was amazing and he had to do this and
just ruined all of our dates. Thank you so much, sir.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Thank you though, but thank you because.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
On on top of that just three perfect albums. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, also I gotta say thank you too, because that
is some straight up sexy music. It's undeniable, Like there's
no one can knock those albums off the mantle in terms.
I mean, maybe it's generational, but I felt like that
about some of the early weekend stuff. I was like, oh,
this is sexy, but it doesn't happen in a way
that it's like sexy for vampires. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's

(09:58):
like it's drug addic sex. Yes. You're like, but I
want to fuck, and you're like, yeah, okay, I can
get that.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Work is like sex sex.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
D'Angelo is like, okay, you you love hip hop, but
you're not a gangster.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
You're like, you're probably gonna go to college, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you know, you came for a
decent home. You like you like your girls kind of
lightweight thuggie, you know, not like you know what I'm saying,
Not like really shy girl and sad eyes, you know
what I'm saying, but like, but a decent girl that's
willing to you know what I'm saying, go to the
kickback you feel me and he was for He's for us,

(10:38):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Where it's like I'll fight if I have to. I
don't like fighting. It's funny. All these white kids I
went to high school with, they were like, dude, d
Angelo because they remember I was playing Voodoo all the time, Like,
you guys need to listen to this album. They're like yeah,
R and B. I'm like, you need to fucking listen
to this album.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah yeah no.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
But because they also started sucking with it afterwards, I
was like, damn, I'm so sad man. I remember when
you put us put me onto this, Like I remember
we were in Johno's Infinity. You had that in the
sixties changer because I didn't drive at the time. My
friend was the like the dude who drove everybody. He
had the sixth disc changer, and I would yell whenever
someone tried to disrupt this disc slot six because that's

(11:17):
where Voodoo was. Yes, and look at me, just a
straight teenager listen to Voodoo with my boys, understanding how
sixty music can be. Look, you were just vibing. Make
an eye contact.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It'll look and I see it.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Look putting people onto, putting other young men onto Voodoo
and sitting there and taking in it. That's real alpha
male shit, it's real. Give a wonder what alpha male.
We'll get to that later, but that's listen.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
But I'll tell you what, man, this is his his
willingness to like, I feel like to say it loud.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I'm black and I'm proud.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Era, you know of the sixties, right, really had a
fall off, you know, as far as like what it
meant to just be uh like like unapologetically like if
you just let if you just let us lead culture, like,
just let us be what we are, let us lead culture,
and we're gonna teach you something. And then the d'angelo's

(12:06):
of the world came in and it's like, listen, this
is what we mean, you know, like the love Jones
and just like just let just let us cook.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I'm telling you everyone will benefit if you just let
us cook. You feel me, That's the way he seeming
me mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And b we did find out about Dangelo's passing on
our episode Tuesday's episode. Yea, which I have to assume
is why you've changed your background for people who are
just listening. Miles just changes his background to a picture
of the time when that guy came up to George
bush on the morning of nine to eleven and told

(12:41):
him nine to eleven just happened, and then gave him
a little kiss on the side of hisself. Yeah what Dangelo?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
No.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, anyways, I think in retrospect, I have to show
Bushy a little a little grace for that moment, like
that's I mean, you have to be in shock, like you.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know how many people can eat that punch.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly in front of him, A bunch of children, children.
I mean, the way he looked at the hook build
it off so well what you're saying just even.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Just just like he went off without a hitch, right, Yeah,
it work.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
It's all those moments when you see the breakdown of
the moments after where he's like trying to figure out
what to do and he's just kind of sitting.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
There and he's got like a blink and he's like,
interesting the number of blinks per second that he's given
that moment.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'm like, you know what, man, in hindsight, as a
full grown, full frontal low adult, yeah, I mean, you
actually handled that moment pretty well.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
But you know what, would you you have been like,
Oh no, guys, I gotta go I gotta go on.
But no, you're bugging. You're bugging, You're bugging. What the
fuck up? Bro? Now you're lying? Cuse yeah, you're bugging.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sorry, kids, this motherfucker runs to one side of the stage,
runs to the other, covering his mouth.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Just saw someone get crossed up in the gym. They're like, wait,
are you celebrating, sir? No, you know it's crazy. I
can't believe it. All right, go home, y'all, I'll go
go home, tuck. Okay, let's read this one kids, all right,
prop we're gonna get to know you a little bit
better in a moment.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
First, we're gonna tell the listeners. A couple of the
things we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
They're trying to get America scared about. The No Kings
demonstration is happening this weekend. The GOP is really they're
trying to make this one be a full takeover. My
infant nearly died one of these after mass shootings.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is how they're describing people exerciting the First Amendment rights.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Ye shaut out, Annie Johnson.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, we're going to talk about the CDC cuts that
just happened, continued CDC cuts and just like the you
know what if something bad could happen? What then then
we're gonna talk about video Miles sent to the group
chat yesterday that hit hit it like, I don't know,
the second plane hitting the towers. Like we were pretty

(15:08):
taken aback by this. It's a it's a video from
Man's School.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I guess you would say, I actually, Doug, I found
the real clip. Actually it's from I think it's called
The Unbreakable Man's the Unbreakable Man. It's the Unbreakable Man.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's the Unbreakable Man.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Of course, it's uh, it's it's like it's a reasonable
five and a half thousand dollars yeah, fifty, that's all
you have to pay.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Look, man, everyone's got jokes. But then when you're actually
standing there being held by your man sense and and
like after pushing through his chest and he's creating you
in his arms and saying there you are, Jack, there
you know, and just weeping.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
And just oh man, this last time somebody really sniffed
the top of your dome like that, like I love you, boo,
I love you, I love you.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I think it was before my fontanelle was fully formed.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's why you saw.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yo you still got it. I still got the song
spot all of that plenty more. But first prop we
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Man, it kind of blends into whatever I'm plugging, but
like it's just like I, okay, I just realized, like
I don't know how to sell tickets anymore. Like so
I was just like, okay, marketing tools free, not AI, right,
you know what I'm saying, because like, okay, So the

(16:41):
shameless plug is I put out a poetry album. I'm
finally like this first time I did a full poetry album.
It's in the first round for the Grammys. We just
finished voting for that, so which is dope. So like,
hopefully I make it to the second round to the
nominees are. But part of that campaign is the live performance, right.
So normally, of course you want to sell it, sell

(17:03):
a show out, but like this time, like you really
need to sell the show out because you got to
invite like people that are a part of like the
you know, voting member machine. Yeah, so that's on until
we're twenty second, you know what I'm saying. Right here
in Allegian Theater. Tickets at prop hip hop dot com.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Get there. Oh shit, there, zeigang, fill this place up
for let's do it.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
So, but I was like.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
My last like national international tour was like I mean
it was like pre pandemic, you know, or twenty twenty
one was like the last like full national tour. And
at the time, you know, I knew how to freak
the algorithm. You know what I'm saying. You have over
one hundred and twenty thousand followers and you know fifteen
hundred you know person email lists. It's like, yeah, you

(17:48):
just tell them to tell you people out there doing
the show.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Well that's crazy, you know, what I'm saying, like, do.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
You my first the first half of my my my
professional like touring career, Like I didn't use promoters. We
had eight hundred thousand people on our email list, and
you know, all of us collectively had forty fifty thousand
followers on answer. You just tell them, Joe said, and
they come, you know, but I can't, Like, I'm just like,

(18:15):
the follower count means nothing because y'all not seeing the.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Flyers, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
So I'm just like, it's and when you're artist, like
you start feeling like this has an effect on the
like you start questioning if you really making good art,
and it's like, or do people like it?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's not that they not that you not making good art.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Niggas don't see the flyer, Jo saying, So I was
just like, how do I make the people that have
opted to see my content see my content?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
The basics of how I think the people.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
That asked that said, Ooh, I like this, dude, I'm
gonna click this follow button.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Why can't you? Why can't they see it? Yeah? Right,
because I'm sure now the answer is probably like, well
you could probably just pay just pay a payst and
that's at.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
The end of the day. That was the answer.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
The answer was you just gotta pay for it. So
I was like, oh, so you got to buy an
ad to.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah that yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Piece of technology, the process is a technology. Piece of
technology is introduced, it's useful, and then it slowly just
gets ruined by you know, marketers and just the unregulated
forces of capital just come through and ruin everything. Phones,
yea useless, the mail completely useless. The social media platform

(19:36):
just slowly gets run through.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
The empire just always comes and eats the dope stuff.
It's like, yeah, my uh my DJ friends who like
you got on Twitch and are like like one of
them like makes it like he used to be in radio.
So he was like, oh, it's just like being a radio,
you know what I'm saying. But he's I mean he's
pulling in, you know, like he paying the mortgage off
DJ and on Twitch I see ice and yeah he's

(20:01):
paying the mortgage off Twitch, right, and like.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
But like they were all.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Trying to figure out like, man, how can the affiliate
like why is it not working? Why are we not
getting too this? And I was like, you know why,
because you can get a Twitch record deal. You could
work for Universal and Universal will give you a deal
to stream on Twitch. I was like, no, the industry
took over. It was just like it was like Spotify,
it was like all the streaming platforms. It's just like
it used to be great an equalizer for if you

(20:27):
didn't have a machine, you could use this. No, then
the machine buys it and now you're done.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well Because yeah, because you know, you never know what
these independent artists are going to say, like advocating for
like Palestinian statehood or you know, talking about the government
or things like that. Yeah, totally, because it makes I think.
I was gonna say, maybe have you tried becoming friends
with Peter Teel or Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg. My, if
we're just going to cut to the chase, listen, I.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
DM Teal, I DM you know what I'm saying, what's
the teal poppy?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What's the till? I got the tea.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That way?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I was like, I got the t for t O boy,
you feel me? I hit him up. I was like, man,
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I love it. I was like, man, I take a
whole book.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Called I wrote a whole poetry book called Terror for him,
it's about building a livable world and that's what we're
both doing. But but I mean, you got to destroy
the world you in now to rebuild it to be better.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'm just saying, like I feel it. I thank you
for your work. Yeah, what is something proper you think
is under it?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Man? I just think it's underrated, like like just not
knowing new like jen alpha slang. That's fine, dude, Like
you know what I'm saying, Like, let them have a thing.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know what I did you witness somebody, uh speaking
outside of their age bracket?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yes, I witnessed somebody speaking out of side of their
age bracket and it was okay. The other fathers in
the building. You will be there very soon, Miles. And
the pick up lines, right, the after school pickup line
is the oh my god, it is the waffle house
of dad ship where you just gotta like you just

(22:09):
you can't, like you have to learn how you got
to keep to yourself. Jack, Please attest to this, like
you have to be very selective as to who you'll
start a conversation with because it will it can.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Go horribly right. It will go in weird directions.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
It could go in awful directions and it and it's
like it's lose lose because let's just say you meet
a dude and you're like, that's actually a cool last dude,
but then our kids don't get along.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Now you're fuck right.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
But then the kid that your child likes got a
weirdo ass dad, and now you're like ship Like it's
just like it's I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Gonna drop you off.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's like I'll drop you off, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just like it's just so much give a
little yes, don't let them figure out how do hip hop?
Or that I got a podcast or you like, because
they're looking for somebody. Yes, we're both looking for somebody.
That's kind you're a rapper and podcast.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
If you were a stand up comedian also, it would
be cooked all back.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Jason, I do a little wrapping myself.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's a play the shook Ones instrumental. Yeah yeah. Now,
luckily a few times I've scored.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
So the dude that runs the record label that put
out Andre's flute record. Yeah yeah, so they family goes
to my kids school. So like I've lucked out a
few times like that dude, that dude's dope. You know
what I'm saying, like like just all this like coming.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I was like, okay, he's dope.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Right, So I've scored every once in a while, but
sometimes you just run into the dude that sees me
and thinks I want to hear him try out his
new slang.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right, And I'm like seven right?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
What?

Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I have to look at homie and be like, look, man,
just keep whipping and the like, just stay where you are.
Just say you're fine, homie, Like you feel me like,
find something timeless, like whatever, you know, like whatever the
verbal version of, like just a pair of clean dickies
and a white tea and some Chucks bro, Like just

(24:16):
stay classic. You feel me like you can't lose if
you just stay classic.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's okay. You don't know what six seven is? Yeah,
it's fine. That's the thing. Let them have a thing.
Yeah right, Yeah, I just told it doesn't mean anything,
so it's fine for me to use it in all contexts. Actually,
And you know what, you might be right, And that's
actually cool and that makes me cool.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Just that fly out And here's the thing, because I
have you might be right?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know why?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know why you might be right or why I
don't know because I don't know, and it's okay, I
don't know. And guess what, these kids don't know what
the fuck we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
They don't know what the hell were talking about. They
don't want to know.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
When they hear a song that like, actually that song
came from Let them have a.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Song, man, you want to hear the sample though, you
want to hear the sample. Let them have a song.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Like I almost showed my daughter the Luther Vandro song
as she was singing along to Sissy and Kendrick, and
I call myself and was like, why are you doing this?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
You know what? Yeah? Exactly, let her have it? You know,
is not like what is something you think is over? Yeah?
That would be Superman movie. No.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, she asked me why is it called Luther? Then
I would tell her, but like, as.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
She's not asking the red questions you ask, you should,
I mean, but you're the cool dad.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I feel like that's kind of the formative process, is
you have somebody, even though they are not into it,
they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Be like, you know, actually I did appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Actually that now my oldest but she found it on
her own. So the thing was I just exposed her
to it.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I didn't like make her. It was just you would
come in the house.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm playing in the house, I'm walking around, I'm doing
this is what we're playing. There's records that those are
the records right there. I'm pulling from there and just
let it be a part of her ethos. And now
she's like, yeah, now she's you see the crates behind me,
She's like digging through them crates.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, let's uh, let's take
a quick break.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
We'll come back.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
We'll talk overrated andrada or we'll talk overrated.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Overrated, and we're back. What is something that you say
is overrated? I think Vegas? Man, Oh, I just say
it's just listen, Okay.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
So I just recently had to do some work out there,
and it was one of those things where I had
to admit I tried like that.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I feel like I felt like.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
This my whole life, like I tried so hard and
come so far, but in the end it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Even doesn't know I tried.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
This so like all the homies being like, oh, we're
gonna do a Vegas trip.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
My sister, Like my sister and her husband, like my
my my my mom has this like a time share
out there, and my sister and my brother in law
use it all the time. They go and it's like
we just go for the buffets, you know. And I'm
just like, I from the partyingist of party years too.
Maybe we're gonna go celebrate the Homies fortieth or the Usher,

(27:22):
the Wu Tang, you know, the Silk Sonic. Like I'm
just like, you know what, man, I just don't like
it here. I just I just I just I don't.
I don't see it, y'all.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You can age out, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
And I was just like, man, I don't. And that's
what I was thinking. I was like, did I just
age out? But then I was like, I don't think
I ever really really fucked with it.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I don't think I ever really.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Fucked with it, man, Like I think again, it's the
backpacker in me. I was like, I need something real,
you know. I don't know, man, it's just I'm good,
what good?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
What good art has come from Vegas? Are?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
They're good?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Seven oh two? The R and B Group, okay.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Two, they're dizzy right the rapper All right, I'm just
coming seven oh two yeah, that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's their area code. I remember. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
No I'm not I'm not gonna shoop. I'm not gonna
say Vegas as a barren wasteland.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
No, not like that.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean, it's like it's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Uh once you get out of the strip, you know,
it's a regular ass city once you get out the strip,
you know.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
But just man, I just feel like the like in
some ways you can see it as a place where
great music goes to die, like musicians at the end
of their life or you know, they killed too.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Part It's like when a European soccer player comes to MLS, right,
it's like, okay, so you finished with the main with
the main thing. Now you're just like MVP seven years
in a row. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I think I did.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I did used to agree about the partying stuff, but
then me and my friends came up with this saying
that whatever happen in Vegas, stay in vas and like
I was like, oh, nice, you can do crimes here,
you can feel bad about it. He's just cheat. That's
basically just vage cheat on our spouses.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
So funny, that's how it started, and that's what it
sounds like, yeah exactly, I mean, stay in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I don't know if I want to live like that,
Like you know what I'm saying. And here's the thing,
bro it know it, don't it. Don't stand in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah exactly. It turns out human beings are social creatures.
They want to say shit out loud. That's just how
they work.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
And you still you still fuck that other woman that
still happened. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I used to go to Vegas a lot because I
had a friend whose dad was a big time gambler.
So it would always be like this free trip. They'd
be like, oh, my.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Dad's want Vegas.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
You want to go to Vegas?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
And I'm like, yeah, fuck it.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
And I'd be like seventeens. But we just had to
be up in it, yeah, and like eat good and
then like you know, his dad would break us up
with some cash or whatever, and then we would like
you know, try and buy like a fucking Iceberg shirt
or some shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, I never had this
kind of money anyway. So I've really been interested in
seeing like what's happening right now because everyone, I mean,

(30:01):
it seems to be that with like the pandemic and
a lot of people getting like checks. A lot of
people began to go to Vegas to spend more money,
and then like the casinos are like, we can actually
start charging people more. And then it became more and
more and more to the point where now nobody's like,
you're fucking kidding, I'm not gonna pay this much money
to stay here, when before that wasn't the that wasn't

(30:24):
the thing. That usually wasn't an obstacle to come to Vegas,
even pre pandemic. It was like, you can get a
cheap hotel room and get a cheap meal. Deal with cheap.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, you will fly you here basically give us your money. Yeah,
that's what I afford to give us your money.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
They're like, well it's all that was the really that
was my last experience. I was like, man, I you
what I The one saving grace was the fact that like,
you're like a really good meal for cheap, you know,
and I'm like that now that's gone.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
You could eat fucking lobster tale for like five bucks.
You're like, what the fuck? This is great? Boy.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
We checked into that hotel, it was like, all right,
is your you know, you swipe for incidentals and then
they then they say it's something that I was like,
I almost slap the ship out of this person. They said, Okay,
here's your incidentals, and then here's your resort fee.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeast resort man, What the hell is the resort fee?
You get something we don't have to put in the price.
That's actually pretty great for us. But you're you're already here,
so yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, I'm paying the taxes that which okay, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
But then there's the fee for the rest, and then
there's the fee for the fact that this is a resort.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, you feel bad about that.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You can get mad at the service workers who are
being paid by that. We just like to split that
out so that you don't know about it until the
last second. And then also it's like this takes money
to keep all these people employed.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, I mean yeah, every city is just suffering now, in.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Particular like Vegas. I feel like is a little like
Disney in the sense that I've always suspect to, like
you go there, w Disney. Yeah, yeah, Debutch Disney, Like
you see crimes that I'm like, how are they not reporting?
Like it's okay, like there'll be there will be, like
very evidently a homicide or something the police are surrounding

(32:13):
and then you like look for reporting on it. It's like,
you don't know what you're talking about. Man, What happens
stays in Vegas? You know, like that that's our police
force model.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
That twenty five year old girl is seventeen. I don't
care what that is? A child there is everyone, Yeah,
that is a child.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Okay. The second I think, especially like for kids who
grew up near Vegas, that's like one of the first
scams you try and run. The second you get an
ID you think something work Like this was obviously for
millennials because now kids are like, what the you want
to you want to go drink alcohol? Like it was
a different time, okay, yeah, what are you born in
the nineteen hundreds? Yeah you smoke?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
You smoke weed, dude, What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Come on, man, you can smoke it.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Okay. But yeah, it was just a different, different time anyway.
But I do think that Vegas tried to do what
Disney did, like and found that the demand for Vegas
is a little bit more like Disney was just like,
We're just going to keep raising the prices and people
will keep coming. And Vegas found out like that. That
doesn't quite work. Their demand is a little bit more inelastic.

(33:21):
They were hoping.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Because the X factor for Disney is children, Like you
have to do it for the children if it's just
for me, Like you know what we did the kids.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, it's like we know, you can sip me and
Jay Brandy on any show.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I can do that at home. Yeah, yeah, I can
do that at home. You can also gamble online so
I don't have to be here.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yes, you can.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Ruin your You can ruin your life from the comfort
of your own home, your toilet. You can have an
alcoholic beverage and gamble away your life savings from your toilet. Yes,
all right, let's talk about let's talk about shout out
to Lucy. All right, all right, So there's no Kings,

(34:02):
there's no Kings demonstration coming up, and the GOP is
raising to turn this into like full Antifa Olympics. Yeah,
they're they're trying to make people scared.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
You know, this is uh, the clock is sticking basically
on the Republicans trying to fully have like a vice
grip on dissent in this country, especially before the dubious
mid terms. And I will say dubious because this regime
seems to have no issues with lying at any cost,
So what would stop them? I mean, the Republican just

(34:35):
bought the voting systems that you know operate in over
twenty or twenty seven dominion they bought and currently the
Supreme Court is hearing a case that would gut the
Voting Rights Act basically and allow GOP legislators to redraw
even more racist, fucking gerrymandering to consolidate power.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
So you know, were.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Sure they we have the nerve, and it's just like,
it's one thing to be like racist and evil, it's
another thing to look me in the face like I'm stupid.
And I think that that's the part that's been getting
under my skin where I'm like, oh, I'm a dumb ass,
is what you think? Okay, you hate me, but I'm
also a dumb ass.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
They're like, let's know what we're doing when I'm black man.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Listen when they said we need to rethink these voting
laws and these jerremandering laws because they're based on race
and that is unfair.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
And I'm like, sir, do you want.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
We don't based on race you're talking about? They're based
on race because the first lines were based on race,
So you got to make a law about the race
because we're undoing the race.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah yeah, I just.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
You mean, what what about like the thirteenth Amendment or
the fourteenth Amendments. We can't be tired.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
It's like, well, it's based on race. Well so was slavery, sir.
I don't understand why. Yeah, I'm just like, oh, so
I'm stupid, right, and I'm stupid when like you say, yeah,
them saying, uh, I think the one they looking at
now is the one in Louisiana right where they're just like,
hey man, we got to redraw this district. It's too
many black people in it, right, right, Yeah, that's what's

(36:17):
so you're just gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's going to have ramifications outside of Louisiana because that's
what they'll use to then go Yeah, because the whole
thing is about creating, like doing away with minority representation
at all costs and segregating legislatures as much as possible,
and this would basically completely take that out of our
laws and be like no, go ahead. I mean like

(36:39):
they were tripping on we're interpreting this law completely differently.
But Anyway, all that to say is this is all
part of everything we're seeing to try and drastically change
our perception of this country and the norms of it
and what it even means to protest. Because right now,
like Jack was saying, Saturday, no King's protests scheduled across
the country, but it's now a folk point for Republican propaganda.

(37:01):
They're currently on a mission to paint basically anyone or
anything that is not wearing a maga hat is some
kind of violent, paid protester that is hell bent on
destroying the nation. And this serves a few purposes. First,
it creates fear among their base who may potentially come
out to counter protests, because all they're saying is like,
these people are trying to destore our country. We need
to stop it. We need to stop it.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You need to stop it.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
You need to go there and confront these people. Also,
and potentially they can have a flashpoint that they can
use to again because all they're waiting for is to
smash the martial law button.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Second, Shite's action act is yeah, fully, just go for
it for the flimsiest flimsiest reason. Another reason, it helps
see the idea that people that are against this regime
are de facto criminals and therefore whatever retribution or malignant
form of justice they encounter is justified and deserved. And also, third,

(37:56):
it's a lie meant to convince their base that everything
is actually fine and that there is nothing to protest
and there's nothing to be concerned about. It your neighbors
who keep saying that shit is going down the toilet
and that your rights eventually will also be impeded. They're
paid liars by George Soros. They don't even believe that.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
They don't they're being paid by George Soros. They're robots.
It doesn't matter. It's like we we can like beat
them up. It doesn't even matter. They're like robots. I mean,
here's like, yeah, it's like Star Wars. You can like
funk with the dude. Shit can still be PG because
you know, fuck up ship to droids.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
So here's Mike Johnson, Okay, the Speaker of the House.
This is again him and his just outright lie about
like what is even happening when people are protesting this
current administration.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Also, just for for people who can't see the clip,
is he is the guy behind him on an Apple box.
Or is Mike Johnson or is that Victor Webbing y'amo
behind him?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, I don't know, let me see. Let's just let's
let's do that real quick. This is like the Mystery
Show where we go.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
How tall is Jake Jillenhall, Mike, he says he's six
foot two. Damn all right, he's six took. They're saying
that guy behind him, he says, hooking tank. Someone said
five to nine. I believe five to nine. Yeah, Speaker
of the House Mike.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Johns, Yeah, I don't believe six two.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Now might be not the picture, Mike Johnson.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, But anyway, all that to say, here he is
again just he's kicking off the propaganda festivities with the
smear that anyone who's protesting is some kind of American
hating whatever. Just listen to all the adjectives he uses.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
Turn it back over the leader. Take some questions. But
we've heard, and many of you have reported already, this
Hate America rally that they have coming up for October eighteenth.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
The Antifa crowd and the pro Hamas crowd, and the
Marxist they're all going to gather on the mall. We
got some House Democrats selling T shirts for this event. Uh,
it is a it is an outrageous gathering for outrageous purposes.
But the Democrats and the Senate have shown that they're
afraid of that crowd, that they don't want to bow,
that they want to bow to them, bow the need
of them, and they don't want to take incoming from them,

(40:08):
and so they're willing to hold the American people hostage
so that they don't have to face an angry mob
of that's a big chunk of their base.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
What a fucking projection, that is, What a fucking Oh
it's them that's afraid. Guy who is currently shutting down
the House to avoid confirming a Democrat who will help
release the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Hm. I just again, you think I'm stupid, Like, yeah,
no exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's the It's just it gets under my skin so
much because it just with anybody, even just the cities
being like ravaged hellholes. I'm like, just by flight, Yeah,
just go you could go see, right, Okay, just go
just go go go to the rally, just go see.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah. They're like, man, you don't want to go to Portland. Boy,
you never seen somebody in a frog costume do a
little You never seen a dance, You never seen a
naked dude on a bicycle.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Y'all like per Simmons bro, Like, y'all want to hit
a farmer's market with me?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Right exactly? Oh, you know, like artisanal jams.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yes, these are easily It's just so frustrating because I'm like,
this is easily.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Verify again, this is not for us.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
This is not for our consumption, because we live, We're
in the lived reality of being in these cities. This
is for the people who are far enough away to
then feel okay that whatever is happening to those people
is fine because happen to those people in this place
that's been characterized as a war zone or burning fucking
hellhole or whatever. Yeah, here's Senator Roger Marshall going on too,
because they're all this is like their whole thing is

(41:37):
like it's like this hate America thing. They're all calling
it the Hate America Rally again, talking about how this this, this,
this is gonna get wild because they're all paid protesters.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
And then October eighteenth is when the protest gets here.
This will be a Sorels paid for protest. Where his
professional protesters show up, the agitators show up, we'll have
to get the National Guard out. Hopefully it'll be peace
for I doubt it as well. So I think that
they have to get that march done. They have to
show their protests. They have to fight. Like they're saying, here,

(42:07):
this is all a political show.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
They can't. Yeah, they're like, nothing's wrong. Ignore all the
people that are saying Daddy's a bad man. Do you
know any paid protesters you ever met one? Oh man? Yeah,
Like I remember meeting an astroturfing tea party person before.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Say, I was like, they take out at yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you are a community organizer that works for a nonprofit, he.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Ever fucking organized the day in their life knows, there's
no fucking. The only way I could look, and I
and I did a lot of organizing in the past,
is like you'd be like, hey, well there'll be some
coffee there. This's literally we'll have some plus some donuts,
I know, coffee miles, I don't know, you young donuts,
and some other cheap ship that another volunteer is going

(42:55):
to bring. I don't know, but I can say there'll
be some water. We just have water here for this
much money. No, that's not what it is, and that's
not how that's not how real activism works. The whole
point is to align yourself with other people that have
the same belief system and yes, helping to sort of
build out a network of like minded people so when
something happens, you can then immediately call upon your network

(43:18):
and respond quickly to some kind of event. Now, this
thing that's happening is because there's people for a myriad
of reasons that they're upset. There are going to be
people who are like, man, what the fuck is going
on in Palestine. They're also going to be laid off
federal workers who are like, I've been working here for
decades and you guys are fucking my life up. There
are so many reasons actually why.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
People would be upset, and so it is like for
this to be actually authentic, you would have to assume
that people don't mind that people want healthcare and I
mean like really, in the end, is that really what
people care about?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Or you'd just want to see their neighbors beat.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Up, Or you'd have to assume that when they go
to work that they get they paychecks. You'd have to
assume that people like getting paychecks for going to work,
and and how again, like I feel like I hear
my dad's voice, like you think I'm stupid.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
My dad used to say, so when you say the
thing you do not want to hear parents say yes,
Oh I get it. So you think I'm stupid.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Oh so you think I'm stupid. So you're trying to
tell me.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
You're trying to tell me you have control of all
three branches of government and both houses, both parts of Congress.
But the Democrats is holding up the Democratic it's default.
You tell me you got the power, mother that you
can't Philip.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
We can't the Philip like we just did.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
But you just wait, you just said something there you
said like we just did. Yeah, like that's a different time. Okay,
oh my god, you're taking my words out of context.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
It's just yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I mean, this hell for an audience of people who
don't know what it's like. And I think also you
have to be pretty insulated to also ignore the own
sort of your own existential threats that present themselves in
your life, like the cost of healthcare, the cost of electricity, now,
the cost of food.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
It's only it's a.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
It's a minority of people in this country who can
be like, yeah, right, electricity is more. Oh yeah that
I got to pay it, so I don't even check. Yeah, okay,
twenty five bucks for an apple? All right, fine, I
don't really like apple. I'll get to next time. Most
of people are actually feel that pressure. I think that's

(45:37):
a weird. Again. I think this is why they're trying
to really energetically paint all of this displeasure, to put
it lightly with what's happening as manufactured, synthetic, artificial outrage,
because in fact, everything is going okay. And to please
ignore any noises you hear to the contrary, because that's
fake and being paid for by George Sore.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Where's the where's the gene in the audience? That it
just it feels so natural to me when somebody says
a statement that just kind of feels out landish for
me to go humh won A way they got that.
And then as simply as you just did right now,
we was like, man, Mike Johnson looks kind of short

(46:21):
right there. I wonder how tall he is. So when
you say to yo, when someone says, oh, this is
a Marxist, George Soros paid.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
I'd go humh as.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
George Soros have paid for a protest click click click
click click, and be like, seems like that's not true.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well, it's actually the Soros Foundation is.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
It's a philanthropic It's a philanthropic group that then gives
money to other groups that then therefore it's like, I go, hum,
that's interesting, let me look that up.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I just don't understand why you can't just be like, wow,
I feel like any any one of y'all would say
something to me that felt a little out of pocket.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I love y'all dearly, but I would be like, out
where they got and it would just like, that's crazy.
Even Jack didn't believe was dubious. When I said Jason
Lee was stan Lee's son. He was like really what yeah,
And I was like, and I fucked to him. I
said yeah, and then I was like, no, you're right, Yeah,
you're right, Like, I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Believe that nepotism is a thing, and that's crazy with me.
I just don't know where your antennas are. That's at
the end of the day. It does feel like the
Hate America movement is the same is being fueled by
the same outrage that caused things that people that people
were like, this came out of nowhere, the occupy movement,

(47:39):
Bernie doing well, then fucking Trump doing well, then Zorn
doing well, like all these you know things that people
were like where, you know, where where is this coming from?
And you know they're obviously fueled by fucking inequality and
people are like that they are just ya, since all

(48:00):
of these things started happening, they're just like pushing the
accelerator further and further down on the thing that everyone's
responding to. And I think you're right that like, oh
so you think I'm stupid is probably like I think
that's going to be more and more of the national sentiment,
like as they try to just be like if you're protesting,

(48:22):
you hate America, as people are like feeling pain, like
I do, I don't think that's like a good strategy
going for like as you know, as surprising, as like
some of his popularity has been in the past, Like
I do think the fact that everything that he's doing
is you know, accelerating the problem that drove him to

(48:45):
popularity in the first place, and then he's weaponizing and
like beating the shit out of people who are like,
we still don't like this. Yeah, I think like I
do think, despite like some of the you know, wild
like I do think generally, on balance, people are smarter
than the mainstream media gives them credit for, and they

(49:09):
are not going to fall for the I think they
hate American movement, the media, politicians.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
They're all kind of like, oh wait, well I used
to be able to do this and everybody got in line,
and that's not working anymore. And I think also too,
That's where you see the similarity with Democrats and Republicans.
They both don't want to cop to the fact that
this country could be doing so much better. But they're
coming from their both they're just coming at it from
different angles. One is just like, no, I mean, we
just need to get back to normal, and the other

(49:36):
is like, no, everything's great. You need to shut the
fuck up. And if you say, someone beat the shit
out of you. Not a winning strategy.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
But we could obviously talk about this for hours, but
you need to take a quick break and come back
and check in with the DMV that issues your man card.
What We're going to take a quick break and we'll
be right back, and we're back. We're back and I

(50:10):
will just have you guys know I'm a man.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I'm forty.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, we know, all right, we know, we know.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Dad is a reference to an obscure Oklahoma State head
football coach Mike Gundy meltdown where somebody said something mean
about one of his players and and he just went
off the handle. And that's come after soho come after me.
I'm a man. Everybody the Michael Scott school of philosophy
merely declare what it is that's happening. But I am

(50:39):
a man.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Therefore you have I declare bankruptcy. It's a great clip
to send to your friend on their fortieth birthday.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, so yeah, I just saw this video of I
think it's it's a video that I realized was posted
at the beginning of like last year. But again it's
always like oozing in America and culture like these alpha
male camps, and it's it popped back up again and
now has been people have been writing about it. But
it's a clip of this guy who paid, based on

(51:10):
what I've read from the person who runs this camp,
fifty five hundred dollars, about to do the Unbreakable Man Experience,
where you can go just outside of Austin, Texas. Where
all men go to become better men is Austin, Texas,
just outside there, and you know this is what he says.
First of all, I just want to kind of read
you what the advertise, you know, marketing literature is that

(51:32):
would compel someone. The world needs more men, real men,
unbreakable men. Unbreakable men move through their inner resistance. Unbreakable
men lead. Unbreakable men are emotionally intelligent. Unbreakable men get
results because they aren't afraid to do what is necessary.
Unbreakable men are purpose driven. We need more men to
break through their inner resistance and lead the world from

(51:54):
their heart. What you're into, what you're witnessing is a
powerful moment from the unbreakable man experience when a man
who was afraid to move forward in life broke through that. Okay,
that's can't wait. They're about to see.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
There's some stuff in there like emotional intelligence.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Hell yeah, that's kind of all over. That's like hard,
purpose driven. I think that's correct. Move through your inner resistance, sure,
get past some of your your personal lives. It looks.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And I will just say for people who can't watch
this clip and are only going to hear it. It
looks like they're about to break through their inner resistance
and start fucking each other.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
And start yesterd for sure. But look that was the resistance. Uh,
this is the this is where I look. This is
certainly going to be a clip you'll see on Instagram
because this ship is way too wild. So here is
a here's a moment where this dude is breaking through his.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Inner resistance for fifty five hundred bucks. I hate this guy.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
He looks exactly how I pictured.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
He looks exactly like how you want to be. Oh yeah,
So we have two men standing next to a barn.
One of them is with a beard like shave shaved,
big head, you know, beard and no shoes in a
little ankle bracelet. Other ones just a man and a
manba there it is, okay, here we go. It's going

(53:11):
to get loud, So I apologize.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Move forward, move forward, move forward. I am you remember

(53:40):
that sketch sex or weightlifting Adam Sandler?

Speaker 6 (53:44):
What the.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah? So yeah, he just for for listeners who are
watch this. Uh he So the guy who is the
student is like kind of leaning in to his men,
say his man sense who's pushing into his chest and
then like he starts line trail or something.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
And then yeah, he's like he's using him like a
tackling sled and he's saying move forward as he screams
I'm a man, yeah I And so they like he
pushes him back like thirty forty feet I get, I'll
get him forty yards on that one.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I'm like it's such a gumbo of like cringe and empathy.
I just I can't because I just like my heart
breaks for like the fact that you you had you
felt the need to pay for.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
This, Jason, my dear man, I haven't gotten to the
horrible part yet. Oh we ain't got there yet. No. Now,
I just want to show you their post man breakthrough.
Whatever this is. I think in the BDSM community they
call it aftercare. Yeah, it's a nice look. And now
look he's sniffing his top line. He said, oh, come here, shorty.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
He's holding his head, kissing him on top of the head,
or like sniffing his man.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Bund It says when a man taps into his power,
a grieving process happens.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
This is a natural release of the old self.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Shore and then he says, there you are Paul, cuddling
is shit and this is this, This is this, I
think to your point, it's it's wild because yeah, on
the surface, you're like, dude.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
What the fuck is wrong with this person? And then
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with our society?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
This is this is clearly like you know, there is
a shift in society that many cishead men are not
equipped for right now. Specifically, these men like they've been
socialized into believing merely having a dick in a job
means you're entitled to happiness and a family or a woman.

(55:53):
But we've society has been shifting over the last few
decades and women are no longer tethered to a man
for survival like previous generations were, so now that now
because of that, that norm is now not there or
not as common anymore. This is where we begin to
see the dysfunction and like this shift that's occurring, and
rather than being able to see how things are evolving

(56:14):
and using this as a moment for their own evolution,
they're looking for like a tidy solution that doesn't involve
a reckoning. Yeah, there's there's double down on the meaningless
alpha male thing.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I'm not I'm not hitting the gas hard enough, which
is kind of your point with Republicans too, or politicians
like well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna change this,
or I'm not gonna even think that they're gonna be
an alternative. I just need to hit the gas harder
on this bad idea. I just I feel like, okay,
you have just.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
For the hundreds of thousands of years, we've always had
some sort of like rights of passage. Y, yes, they
booze bar Mitzvah's, you know, bat Mitzvah's like cotillion, just
something that marks your confirmation. You're a confirmation. Say you
are baptism I don't know whatever it is. It just

(57:10):
means you are an accepted member of our community despite
what you generate. You know what I'm saying, like not
based on what you can bring to the table. It's
just saying we are outwardly expressing what we inwardly know,
which is you are one of us, and you matter

(57:33):
not because like you said, not because you're entitled to
your version of forty acres and the meal that like
sid headset men have believe you're supposed to be supposed
to no, no, no, no, that's.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Not you belong because you belong, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
And I don't know if it's I don't know if
it's just being from La and just whether it's gang
culture or just hip or playing a little league, whatever
it is. I feel like I had that, you know
what I'm saying, Like I had a feeling of belonging

(58:10):
that wasn't tied to what I generate.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
And I just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
So that's why I'm like, it's equal parts Krians, because
it's like, clearly you craving that, you craving a sense
of belonging that is not tied to what you produce.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
The only problem is you still making them produce. And
I'm like, so you're not even giving them, you're cashing
in it just and so I'm just like it's equal parts. Man,
I beat your ass and brother, you deserve that hug, homie,
Like you really deserve someone to tell you they see
you when they let you. That's all that he paid
fifty five hundred dollars for that. Yeah, you know what

(58:47):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I mean, I think this is true across a lot
of different Traditionally, like masculine things where like we all
crave being like touched in some way, like you know,
like we need that, Like there's like a physical like
touch oxytocin release that people need that. And then you
need like this like macho. You need to like be

(59:11):
in a macho setting in order like you need the
toxic masculinity in some way in order to in order
to in order to feel comfortable touching, like you don't
actually like there are plenty of places where you don't
need the but like because our civilization is fucked up,
like they feel like they need you know, sports, like

(59:32):
athletes are constantly touching each other and grabbing each other's
asses and you know, slapping each other on the back
and hugging after home runs, but they are in such
a traditionally like mask like toxically masculine setting. This appropriate, Yeah, exactly,
It's like it can balance it out. And like they
found in the context of sports that like teams that

(59:54):
just like you ever see like an NBA team after
a free throw, they touch everyone else on the court
almost like it's a rope thing that they're just like
forced to do. But it actually like does help your
performance because it's just like there's like a physical component
of like being connected that like I guess works for people,
but like this is the synthetic version of that where

(01:00:16):
they're just like jaming the macho ness by like having
somebody scream in your face like a fucking drill sergeant
and then you get to hug them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yeah, Like why can't you just it's just I mean
I hate to say it like that, but I'm just
like or or like I text miles out the blue
just being like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
What's that, Doug.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah, you don't say it like you could just like
just text homies like, hey, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah? You know, just some producer Catherine put it, well,
they have to do screaming before they can do snuggling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Snuggling. You're like, I caught you to snuggling.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Well, we were screaming, Oh, screaming before the snuggles because
we don't want anything. We don want anything looking like
affection of any kind.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Text your homie today and just be like, hey, I
love you home me like just just as.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I think people also need to understand that there's you know,
like whenever you kind of reach a breaking point with
your own self created identity or something, your path forks off, right,
and because you feel uncomforted, like, I don't know, none
of these beliefs feel like they fuck they're serving me anymore.
I don't feel happy engaging with all this shit that

(01:01:34):
I convinced myself was supposed to make me happy. Yeah,
And then that's when the path forks off, and you
either at this point you choose a new path or
that's where true growth lies and new possibilities are to go.
And you say, man, well I got to this fork
in the road and the ship that got me here
isn't serving me, and I feel deeply uncomfortable. And this

(01:01:55):
is a level of self awareness that I know not
everyone you know, like especially the age ren, is capable of.
But you can either take this new to try something
new and say, maybe it's not all this alpha male shit,
Maybe it's not all this shit I've been believing that
it's like I need to be doing this and that's
why I don't have shit, Or you can go down
try something new, or you can go further into the darkness.

(01:02:17):
But I guess at least that darkness is more familiar.
And I think you just this is just like a
natural moment when people arrive at a moment where they
have to really potentially reckon with their own past or
who they are, the things they've experienced. Because I mean
this happens broadly in American culture all the time to
every everyone. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but historically,

(01:02:40):
like with America as an entity, right, like reckoning with
its own sins as a nation. Right. You can take
the new path and try and heal and create something
new and better, or you can just stay in the
denial that everything is okay and you actually just need
to do the old thing harder.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
And you just say that that's the hate America protests, yes, accepting. Yeah, Like,
you're clothes don't fit anymore, Like what do you like?
It's just they don't fit? Like why are you just
don't fit?

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Man, Like, just just change the clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Man, like you your youurologist said you were doing damage.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Yes, sir, fine fit but they're the best draws in
the world, but they don't fit, sir. Yeah, I just yeah,
you're you're You're to your point. It's like even to
use your language and to accept the fact that you
have to walk into the abyss. You have to let
go of what was embrace what will be? That is

(01:03:39):
bravery And I'm like, that's manhood, you know what I'm saying,
that's being a man is like yeah, being growing?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Do it scared?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Like I told you this?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
What if I told you being shook and trying something
completely new was actually that? Man? Jerry Maculine. Yeah, I'll
tell you this. If you did a week of trying
new ship, you will feel better then paying some skinhead
fifty five hundred dollars to tell you ain't ship for
a week and then do some fucking football drills. Yeah,
with some kisses at the end. Yeah, trust me. Like,

(01:04:09):
that's that unknown where we are honored, process of self reflection,
self actualization, of self love. Yeah. And this is Iangla
and I am just trying to save your soul, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
So, So if you guys wanted, you could sign up
for the miles and prop uh soul egos.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, soul Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Ego death thing for the We'll only charge you forty
five hundred Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Called chicken soup for the soul food buffet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
And heroes does yeah, yeah, send you on your way, yeah,
or just yeah some suits a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Let's just all go to Joshua Tree and just have
some cheaper version.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, you could just eat some mushrooms and watch a
Miyazaki cartoon or something there. You might some might hit you, Jason. Yes,
such a pleasure having you on the show Man. Where
can people find you? Follow you, see you in person? Yes?
All that could sell.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Twenty second twenty second, baby, I will I will directly
text y'all tickets because I look, it's over by nine thirty,
so like you don't even have to worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Like I'll be there. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
But yeah, October twenty second at the Allegiant Theater, which
anybody listens to the show is familiar with the Allegian.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
All of us perform there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah, everybody, Yeah, everybody performs there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
It's the Beautiful Endling, which in some ways is kind
of like tied to what we were talking about. It's
my new poetry record, which is an endling. Long story
short is, it's the last of a living species before
it goes extinct.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Right, But that's called an endling.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
But the definition has an asterisk because nothing never really
goes extinct. It just lives in other forms in other ways, right,
So it's kind of like a beautiful, Like, oh, this
is super poetic, you know what I'm saying, And that
could be us, like, like you said, to the point
of like America not embracing the fact that like, look
the way we think of conceive of this country, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Dead, Like it's we're at the end, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
So you get either a go a stink or you
can see how we can live in the future better.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
So that's the concept of the poetry. So come cry
put an.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, you can move forward forward.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
I'm a man and I write poetry. Uh so yeah, yeah,
so yeah. So that's on the website propetpop dot com,
Terrorform Cold Crews back if you're into the call brew
I got that back and yeah, so all the socials
are propertpop.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But please come to the show Man one there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
I will be there. Yes, is there a work of
media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Oh my god, I had to transcribe it because it's
a little long. Can't play it, but I'm going to
read it. It is this this creator named Josh Pray
on Instagram, and it's a picture of Justin Bieber, a
current picture of Justin Bieber, and he is making an
argument that he has reached the level, achieved the level

(01:07:05):
that all of us have tried to achieve, which is
uni human. He is uni human.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
He looks like everything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
So y'all bear with me, Kel, I'm gonna try to
do it in the cadence that he did it, because
it's just so perfect, he says. Justin Bieber has officially
achieved a level of unihuman where he is every race
and all race and no race, absolutely no problem. He
can be black, and he could be white, he could
be biracial. Justin Bieber looked like he can be invited
to the Carnea Sada, the cookout, the barbecue. Justin Bieber

(01:07:33):
looked like he is affiliated with a cartel and can
get you discount tires at Costco. Justin Bieber looked like
he get tattoos from the Incan tribe, but also can
give you tattoos. Justin Bieber looked like he listened to
rap music and rock music to hick hop. Justin Bieber
look like he will knock you out but then walk
you through life because he's been there before. Justin Bieber

(01:07:54):
looked like he played no games, but also game Night
of Monopoly at his house is littered than anything I
can understand. Justin Bieber looked like he played with talkin
trucks with his kids, but also can tnk you out
in a card game for a dollar and you bet
not skip or cheat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Justin Bieber look like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
What you want to do?

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
We We're going to take you outside and then he'll
hold your hand and pray together because fighting is never
the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Justin Bieble look like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Justin Bieber look like he will take your chick and
also take your chick to a place he set up
for y'all to meet up secretly because he knows love
is the answer and y'all need to be together.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Justin Bieber looked like he never made songs that say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Baby, baby, baby, ooh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
He looked like he got foe in a baby, And
if you don't know what that is, pause this video.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Google Urban Dictionary foe in a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Come back at this video and laugh at how on
point Josh is right now. Justin Bieber looked like he
got a tattoo of a lion on his chest, but
he's also a leo, which represents a bottle of cologne
you have never seen before, some secret type of MASACEI
Bieber don't got a buzz cut, that's all. Even he
could get his hair cut by a Caucasian barber in

(01:09:06):
a black barbershop or bar racial and he don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
To confuse all over it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Justin Bieber got the cheek bones of a seminal Indian
and I don't mean Florida State. Justin Bieber has achieved
a look that we have a chied that we have
chied to achieve for a long time. Justin Bieber looks
like he gonna go hang out with his friends, his
redneck friends. But then rednecks are black people who love
they privacy and just don't want you to call them

(01:09:32):
black rednecks or white rednecks. They just redneck. Justin Bieber
looked like he saying hey, brother, and also bro relax.
Justin Bieber looked like he's standing on business. But the
business he's standing on is the business he owns that
he inherited from his father. He's literally rechieved the highest
level of human He is una human.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Wow, wow, damn cooked, that's incredible. Yes, he he really has.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
He When you look at the picture, I'm like, yeah,
I don't know. He's ethnically ambiguous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Yeah, he looks like a West Flerson character.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Now, yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
New Chuck Norris, the Chuck Norris for our time. Yeah.
Some apologize for the length of that, but I feel
like it was worth it. No, that was worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Miles, Where can people find you as their workimedia you've
been enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah, find me everywhere at miles of Gray.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Also talking ninety Yeah, there's just a tweet, uh. Zoron
k Mom Donnie du best guy on social just mosted
a clip from a news article that says, quote, pro
Trump billionaire Bill Ackman gives one million dollars to anti
mom Donnie effort and it's and then Zoron tweeted that

(01:10:42):
feeling when your thousand word tweets aren't working? Yeah, I
mean Bill Hackman, he's been trying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Yeah, those screens treating him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
And again, I think a good example of how people
who are so out of touch with reality are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Like, what I need to do is give him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
I think if I give a million dollars, that'll be
enough to convince people that their lives shouldn't improve. Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
The Democrats have no way forward. It's impossible for them
to figure out what they should do in the face
of this what's this?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
What's hell?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Just a sold out, raucous crowd everywhere this fucking guy
goes and like fucking polling results that break people's brains. Anyways,
workI Media. I've been enjoying at human x. Maybe on
Twitter tweeted to catch a bus you have to think
like a bus. That's funny, that's true. You can find

(01:11:36):
me on Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian and on Blue
Sky at jack Obi the Number one. You can find
us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. Where
at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, you can go to
the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
and they're at the bottom you will find the foot note,
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about in today's episode. We also link off
to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

(01:11:58):
is there a song that you think that people I enjoy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Yeah. This is a bit of a collaboration with between
Butcher Brown, which is like a hybrid jazz hip hop
kind of band, jazz band kind of vibe with the
producer and Bassis Cartoons who's super phenomenal. It's called Frontline
and again it's just really feel good instrumental music that'll

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make your big toe shoot up in your booted. Okay,
just know that, Just know that this isn't some This
isn't some background music. This is you want to listen
to it. But it's fantastic.

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So Frontline Butcher Brown with cartoons. I don't know, Miles,
that sounds scary and like it will hurt.

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