‘Eyes’ Yourself A Very ‘Wide Shut’ Christmas 12.12.25

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What are we supposed to be doing? I say, recorded.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Everyone, it's been recording for a minute and a half.
All right, I woke up to recording.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Fucking brown noser over here better than everyone? Watch your mouth?
Did you know? Just I hit it, and I hit
it like a minute.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Now, that's not how I talked. That's not how I
talk kind of similar, kind of nailed it. You took
some liberties there.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I thought there was.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Just face your man.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I hte the way that sounded so much, God, oh god,
sexually trusted. I didn't mean it sexually. I just said sexually.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, that's not supposed to be sexual. It's just the word.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Damn it, that's your interpretation. Man, wouldn't be sexual if
I if I said sexually, that's tell you know it's not.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Brown nosing comes from the term like of kissing someone's
ass and there's ship on the nose. Isn't that disgusting?
But that's what that's why the noses brown.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I had to explain that to my seven year old.
Oh yeah, that's hard. Well, you should ship nose brown nose.
Fucking narked on me, little asshole.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Sit down, Sit down, Hello, the Internet and welcome to
Season four, eighteen, Episode five of Dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
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This is a podcast That's you, That's you. This is
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Miss Piggy with Jamie Loftus, Arnold Tchoritznagger with John Gabris,
Erkele with Jackith Neil, Einstein with Michael Schwain. Look for
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Oh god, it's Friday, December twelfth, twenty twenty five. Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
You know, ga, what were you gonna say?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was gonna say the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
That is crazy. Thanks.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm
thrilled to be joined in our second seat by a
brilliant comedian writer actor Coinner of the phrase plumpers to
describe it as Jack's size.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's Blake Wexwan.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's Blake Wexler aka Kyle Ayers.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Wait, Ky's a comedian, a different guy.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He's a frequent guest on your show.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
What if you didn't know who he was?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Because he always fills in for you, So you can't
come across.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Cut me not knowing who Kyle Airs is. It's been
a long week. I think he was on like three
days ago. He was.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
That's why, because the disc I figured out I've recently
come into possession of a Discord account and I figured
out how to use it. And apparently my voice sounds
like Kyle Airs. That's something that's been thrown around on
the discord.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Uh huh. And so you're you're aka is also that's why.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, now that we now that we've arrived.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Kyle character created by Blake.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Or vice versa.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, it's impossible to say. There's a really great painting that.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Somebody made the Mona Lisa, Oh wait, what were you
going to?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
A piece of fan art that is it's so tdz on.
It has a wonderful likeness of Miles kind of thinking.
Then his head is popping open and I'm coming out
of his brea holding a potato, and it does imply
that I am a figment, I am a character those
created by Miles. It's like my favorite work of TDZ

(04:09):
fan art. So I have it behind me right now.
We have it up in the office. But it does
imply I'm a I'm a fictional character, and I love that.
Get no accountability, you know what I mean. That's just
a character that Miles does. It's really weird takes. Anyways, Blake,
thank you so much for filling it for Miles while

(04:31):
he's out, you know, working on his character, working on
this character that he created. And please stop poisoning him,
which has been going on all All of our guest
hosts have admitted to poisoning Miles to keep him out
so they could come in and plug their ship, plug
their upcoming live shows. Not cool. It's that's right micro

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dosing arsenic Blake. We're thrilled to be joined in our
third seat by one of our favorite guests, a very
funny comedian host of the rewatch podcasts Pod Yourself a Gun,
Pod Yourself, the Wire, and the latest iteration Mad Yourself
a Man, as well as Bad Hasbra which happens to

(05:18):
be the most moral podcast in existence and of all time.
It's Matt God to suck my d. You've got to
suck my d. Give me road hit, give me ahead, Yeah,
you suck.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I'm having fun already. I wanted to start early, you know. Yeah,
Usually I know you guys do. It's like something about
your name. But in this case, I panicked and no need. Okay,
well good.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
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in that.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
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didn't but I didn't. I didn't do it fast enough.
The other one I had in my head was cock
robot cock.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Better to do to do? You know?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
You burn these you can use that.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Don't bring the ue.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You're gonna get this stolen.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
These ideas are gonna get stolen trademark, and we are
mailing this episode to ourselves. It's been trademark. You cannot
steal that. You're gonna number one hit. Matt. How are
you doing. It's wonderful to have you back.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh, I'm so glad to be back. I'm so glad
we made it work. I've been trying to come on
the show for a while, but uh, you know life,
life gets in the way.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Life keeps lifing fast.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
It comes at you fast. Also true, Yeah, it really does,
Matt watch. It's also thing you should know about life.
It's a bit of a beach. Dig it huge beach
because you dig it all right.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh that's fun, that's a fun little.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Let me write that. Let me mail that to ourselves.
That envelopely yet, could.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You write it and live? Laugh? Love?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think Joe Dirt mailed that to himself, Joe Dirt.
I heard it from the movie Joe Dirt. You guys
remember Joe Dirty. Well, it was a David Spade movie.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It was during my walking phase where anything that Christopher
Walking was in I was like, this is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh I like that had a walking phase decades.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Couldn't move forward. Actually it was a developmental problem, according
to my psychoanalysts. Couldn't move forward.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I could only walk forward because I'm walking. Those are
the types of jokes you would do. I would never
say something to.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, after a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
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Speaker 1 (07:49):
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Speaker 3 (07:53):
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Speaker 1 (07:55):
I was pretending. Okay, Robot Rock Matt, how, how's the how?
How's that? Rewatch? Max Cock's good?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Mad Men Rewatch is going great, we are. We just
wrapped up season three, uh and we're gonna be starting
season four soon, right on time for HBO to come
in and be like, hey, guess what all of mad
Men available on HBO? And hey, finally, now all we
have to do is make our podcast somehow discoverable on

(08:28):
podcast apps because right now, okay, it's called pod Yourself
a Gun a rewatch podcast. We keep calling it Mad
Yourself a Man, although you can't really find it that way,
and those who are searching for mad Men can't find
it because it's Mad Yourself a Man A man.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, it's not one Mad yourself some men. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, well, you know we need we need to have
like an extra, like a I don't know, a PR
guy help us with that. But it's only it's only me,
Evince and Brent and none of us are good.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
So we're all bad.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, so uh, but yeah, we're very excited for people
to start watching mad Men and listening to Mad Yourself
a Man.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah. It's it's tough that you're not talented in the
one way that really matters artistic and it's s e.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
L Yes, it's true. It's the only.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Really truly like how things like how artists are made
today is like I actually figured out how to game
the system.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Michael Angelo would have ever gotten to paint the Sistine
Chapel if he hadn't been good at reels.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, that's such a good point. I don't think so.
He was a great Marketer's great something.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
He knew how to do it. Swipe up to see
more Sistine Chapel.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, he's all about connections. Yeah, it'd be great if
you like look back at one of these artists like
notes and it's all about just like grinding and and
how to like get in front of the right people.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Michel Angelo's on that grind set mindset.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
His father, Rick Angelo is a.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's fine Michael Angelo, designer jeans and ship. Hey Michael,
Uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to
get to know you a little bit better in the moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
things we're talking about. Uh, it's finally happened. It's finally here.
Time magazine has designated it's Person of the Year, and
once again they've fucked up by first of all, it's
not a person again. It's not Hitler again, Hitler having

(10:42):
kind of a little appraisal that's right in the some
some parts of the culture. But no, it's the architects
of AI. And then there's just like a bad photoshop
job of a bunch of like the people like AI executive,
not even the architects of AI, just like people who

(11:03):
own companies that are making a ton of money off
of AI sitting on the steel beam from that picture.
Remember when the construction workers are sitting on the Remember that.
I remember, Yeah, it's like these are our new blue
collar workers.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know, jet fuel can't melt those I just heard that.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Actually, so we're going to talk about that article. Look
like the image sucks so bad, you know, and the
article is even worse. So we'll talk about that. We'll
check out Tim Poole, famous conservative commentator who had a
beanie surgically attached to his head because he is threatening

(11:42):
once again to quit. I feel like this is the
only time that he ever like makes it onto our
radar is when he's like, I can't even afford to
do his shiit anymore. Man, this time, he's like, just because,
like I have to pay for security because everyone's trying
to kill me.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I fucking I'm so fucking it important.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm so important. So yeah, we're gonna talk about that,
and then we're gonna talk about the movie that's become
the new stylish my favorite Christmas movie. Well, you probably
don't think of it as a Christmas movie, but I do.
Little something called Eyes Wide Shut. This is the hot
new Christmas movie. Everybody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about

(12:25):
Eyes White Shut. And we're gonna look at why it's
become so popular in this age of the Epstein Files.
Whether the theories are true that it caused Stanley Kubrick
to be murdered by the illuminati. I'm just saying he
died as he finished it. One of the last things

(12:47):
that people heard him do, according to somebody on the internet,
was yelling at executives. So you can't change the ending
of my movie. What was that original ending? We'll find
out about that plenty more. But first, Matt, we do
like to ask our guests, what is something from your
search history that you.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Are Yes, I'm glad you guys doubled up on that
so everyone understood it. The most interesting thing on my
recent search history is what do I want for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Oh? So, I mean I can tell you something, eh.
Have you ever tried chat GBT CHAGBT will tell you.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
It'll tell you what I want for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, it'll tell you what what Matt Lee wants for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
And it's like, all I want is a bunch of
water to go to waste. So I asked that GPT
over and over what I want for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, it was just I was looking through.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's like, oh yeah, I recently asked Google what I
wanted because I literally I just don't.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
And I don't mean that to make that sound like,
you know, oh I have everything I've always wanted. It's no,
It's just that, like what I want is too expensive
you know for most you know people to think is
a reasonable Christmas present.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Cocaine has got an expense Yeah way up.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Dude, ever since the Venezuela ship. Dude, way up. And
uh yeah. And then I was just looking through at
what it told me I wanted, and it doesn't know
what I want for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
See, this is what Google will play dumb Sometimes it's
it knows it's been paying attention. It's collecting a detailed
profile of you. And then yeah, let's the one what
I can tell you.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, let's see, say what do what do I want
for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
That is, by the way, when I type in what
do I want for Christmas? Is the number one auto complete?
So you're not.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Okay, So other people also don't know what they want.
That's good. That makes me feel better about it. Okay,
So it says this is from Google's AI. It says
text and gadgets. You want Apple AirPods. Guess what, idiot,
I already have them.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Stupid, my big idiot.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
What is wrong with you? Apple? Google? I want?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I want a smart home from Amazon? Echo, No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah you do. No, I don't. You actually don't realize ye,
but yeah you do.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Really I want an Apple air tag. What are we
doing here? Tell me what I want? Keys or bags
or xes? Yeah, exactly. If I'm gonna use it for anything,
I'm gonna put it on my cat. That's what I
will do, because I want to know where that bitch goes?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Where is that cat?

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Where the fuck is that cat?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
That's a new segment that we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Where is that cat? And finally, we like to ask
our guests where is that cat? That cat?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
The answer is always under the couch, scared of the child.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
M hm for the eleven day in a row.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
And then one of the one of the things that says, uh,
what do I want for Christmas? It says a classic
wh I know it knows me betterly, yes, I know
it knows me better, and it pisses me off because
I still I still don't know what I want? What
do I want? What do you guys want for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
According to Google, AI doesn't think I want a Classic watch,
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I mean, it's a role. It is a Rolex for me. Actually,
I did Google how much does a Rolex cost the
other day because I just didn't know, and I'm like,
there must be a Rolex that is that could afford.
And it's like the cheapest ones, like nine thousand dollars.
It's like, can sane? So I bought eight?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Hell yeah yeah. One of my options is Creative Art
supplies camera for vlogging like Canon, So it gets me,
all right, It.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Doesn't get at all. I just want to know what
I want.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, I do feel helpless. Anytime anyone asks me what
I want for Christmas, I'm like, I don't what.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. More Patreon subscribers, what
do I want for Christmas? I want a way for
people to discover mad yourself a man, because it's called
pot yourself with gun and people don't know that. What
do I want? I guess ten million dollars?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
What is the first answer on Google? Ten million dollars?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well, if I just get one hundred dollars from I
can't do the math. But if you do the math,
let me know how many people I need to get
one hundred dollars from in order to get ten million
dollars Madly.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Ask Michael Dell. T tell Michael Dell that you're ten
thousand children?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. You just I think
you do the math.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, it's either a ten thousand or one hundred thousand
zeros right now? Yeah? No, not now, there's no time, Matt.
What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I would have to say, listen this, I don't know
if this person actually is underrated, but he was recently
in the news as being bad at acting, and I disagree.
Paul Dano, Oh, come on, Paul Dano is underrated by
Quentin Tarantino, very specifically, and I that.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Is the implication of these questions. What is underrated and
overrated by Quentin Tarantino? Right?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
What does Quinin Tarantino want for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
And it's a I don't know, uh, feet.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Picks probably, yeah, picks. Yeah, Paul, before you hey, Quintin
and before you fit finished saying what do you want
for he responds, feet picks.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
He hates Paul Dano, his awful feetgg.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
You wouldn't show I bet you he didn't show them hogs.
I bet he was just like, I'm not going to
do it. And he's like, come on, man, you know,
just as weird fucking bullshit acting.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
No, but Paul Dano is like, even even with the
like outpouring of support for him after Quentin Tarantino trashed
him for no reason, I was still there was part
of me that was like, no, but seriously, he is
probably I mean, since the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman,
he's probably like the best actor in.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Hollywood whoa so you're a real I'm a big old
dan ohead dude.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
He's He's so good, even in his bit role in
The Sopranos where he just played AJ's weird friend Rush.
Yeah he was AJ's weird friend. I forget they were like,
I forget what they're even talking about, but I was
just like, yeah, that kid's weird. I gotta follow his career.
So yeah, Dan's my god.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Freaking me out. Yeah, yeah, Dano's good. Quentin Tarantino has
lost his marbles there, I said, yeah, I'm going, I'm
going there, has lost his marbles a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Absolutely, what if I defended of like we've all had
a mic shoved in our face and said dump So okay,
we've all had that happen, so who knows if if
you do it again, I bet he would take it back.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I'm just I'm sure he would.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, I'm sure he would. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I do need Paul Dano. I like him as an
actor as well. I need him to come out and
give us the backstory because either way, it's fascinating. If
there is like something that he said no to that
Quentin Tarantino wanted him in, that's great. If he like
is there something that happened behind the scenes, or if

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it's like completely out of the blue, also very.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Interesting, Yeah, hilarious.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
If it's just like get in there, Dano, I know,
get your hands dirty a little bit.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, we need, we really do need to know what
the backstory is behind that, because it's such a random
person to hate, especially someone who is so clearly a
good actor, like objectively to you know.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
What's your favorite Dano? You know, being the weird friend
and suprentice.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I mean, I mean other than there will be blood,
the most obvious dan Ovie. Uh, I think, uh, love
and mercy. His portrayal of young Brian Wilson is like,
okay that that, to me is might be the best
bio pick out there, like music, biopick and uh, it's
so funny that like fucking what's what's the name of

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the guy who played No?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, the guy who who Brian Wilson.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Hilarious, He's just like I'm doing it. No, he'd love it,
he he, he.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Will love it. This is what Brian wou want it.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's like Brian was still alive at that point too,
but he's still talking about him as if he's dead.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Uh, you know, the guy who played Freddie Mercury and
Bohemian Rhapsody, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, Rommy Malick.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, like the fact that he, you know, won Best
Actor for that. There's so many music biopicks that have
like Best Actor oscars for you know, the lead, and
that is this is the only one that I think
has deserved. Paul Dano playing young Brian Wilson. He did
it so perfectly.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
It was. My theory on that is that Hollywood can
be fooled every time with a set of a set
of fake teeth. Yeah, tooth acting is is real, and
you put some fake teeth and they're like, whoa, He's
like a different person. The same thing as like my
kids putting on like Dracula teeth on Halloween and like

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looking at the mirror and being like, oh my god,
I look like a real VAMPI cool tooth acting. Man.
They should just create a separate category for best tooth acting.
It stops being the hack to win.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Right best prosthetic That fooled me?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, fucking whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
There's a separate Hall of fame for it. With baseball
and performance enhancing drugs, it's just like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
It works on me. Too. I'm just saying that, like you,
we shouldn't punish people who are playing characters who have
fine teeth.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Right, yeah, exactly what could you do a brout it?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah? What? Uh? What's something that you think is overrated?
Bear upy don't need it.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Stop telling people to go to it, people, don't.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Look, I understand that everyone is in this like wellness
like you know, like thing. Now it's like this era
of like, oh, I go to therapy and I work
on my problems. You know, fine, good for you, But
some of us are out here crushing it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
But yes, by just like.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Just putting you know, like taking those problems and just
putting them down deep deep inside and letting it, you know,
stew marinate for a bit. And I'm one of them.
Like I had needed therapy, you know for years, I've
not needed it with baby shit, that is baby shit.

(24:07):
And I have a baby now and now I'm like, oh, good,
now I have someone to talk to.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, my kid is my therapy and that's healthy.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I taught her one phrase, how do you feel about that?
And I have her say that over and over as
I'm talking about my sexual dysfunction.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
We're learning about each other.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I remember reading a story about how someone tried to
bullshit you once, Matt, and they wound up in the
fucking hospital.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Oh yeah, I remember. Oh yeah, that happens a lot.
I have a pretty amazing bullshit detector. It's sort of
a rubber glue type thing. Nice or you try to
bullshit me, whatever you bullshit, bounce off means six to
you and then you go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it does. Sometimes people do confuse you with a
brown noser because your bullshit detector is like, you need
to get right up on the bullshit. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
but you're not brown tho. I don't brown right exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
In fact, that's why I don't like therapy because every
time I went when I I used to go to therapy,
and after a while I was like, first of all,
why are you so obsessed with me? I would say,
that's my therapist. Yeah yeah, and uh, I'd be like,
you should be paying me, and you never anyone know.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
This is good, So listener, this is good advice and
you should definitely listen to out on this. It sounds like.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
People think that they're all their problems will be solved
with therapy. Maybe maybe not. I'm built different.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
My friends are solved by grinding. You know what I do.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I grind, I cry, I rise and grind, I cry
and grind. And you just kind of you just have
to like let your feelings, you know, like like.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Go deep down.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
You have to push them there, you push them deep
way down in the hole.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, watch them TV talk about Paul Dano for a bit.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Fucking problems are over.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Find out what you want for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And if you do go to therapy. Here's a I
would never but go ahead, no, no, And this is
for the audience, not you, just for the whole audiencecause
I don't need it. You don't need it at all.
And if someone tricks you, if someone gets their claws
in you and makes you go to therapy, there's a
fun phrase to use. And you say we're at time,
when I fucking say we're at time. Yeah, I find
that's very helpful. Yeah that's right, that's right. That's how

(26:31):
you teach them to respect you.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, exactly. Go in there and you punch the clocks.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
That's right. You punch the biggest clock in the room,
and that's right.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, you get their name wrong. I guess we got
to announce their name.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I did have a therapist who mispronounced my name for
a full month's yeah, And I said, it's not hard
to he thought, I said Nat, Nat, and he kept
he kept calling me.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Nat like King Cole.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, like King Cole.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
And I didn't correct him, you know, because eventually I
was like, well, I haven't yet paid him the check.
So I gave him the check for the month. And
I was like, well, surely he'll read my name on
the check. I really wanted to avoid that. And then
he and then on the next session he called me
Nat again, and I was like, I'm sorry, we have
to stop.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, my name is Matt. And he said why didn't
you tell me? And I was like, I don't know,
because I'm because I have avoided. Shouldn't you know that?
Why am I here? Right? See?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
That's why I don't need therapy.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I have. There are certain people in my life who,
just from when I was a kid, refuse to believe
that my name is not Zach, and they will continuously after,
you know, be like just they wanted to default to Zach.
You know that kind of come off as a Zach.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You do come off as a Zach. I never thought
about it that way, but you are Zach O'Brien.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
We found another one. You're wrong, Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm
the wrong.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Your dad's wrong, your mom's wrong, everybody wrong.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Now that my parents are both Zach people they.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Want it's on your birth certificate.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, So who's calling you Jack?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Actually, now that I'm thinking, is it just you?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, it's me and the intro to this show, that's
about it. So it's like a stage name, it's a
it's a character Miles created, that's a share name. Let's
take a quick break. We'll be back to talk about
times Person of the Air. Don dom don't hello. Sorry,

(28:51):
that's not how we start this in that second act. Hello,
second act and we're back. I tried to hello the
second act. I don't know what's going on. Guys.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm you can do whatever you want, all this grinding
and do.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Whatever the fuck I want them Zach O'Brien, I mean,
Jack O'Brien. Do you got to pay?

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Do? You wait around at midnight ready for a Time
magazine to announce the person of the Year and smart
and celebrate with your family? Yeah? Every year like me? Yeah. Yeah,
so Big News Times Person of the Year is persons
the so called architects of AI including Sam Altman, Elon
Musk and video CEO Jensen Wang Mark Zuckerberg. And it

(29:37):
is a really cool picture where it's all these people
who have been like ai'ed onto the steel beam from
that famous photograph of like the construction workers sitting on
a steel beam above Manhattan skyline, which that that picture,
by the way, was a piece of like propaganda for billionaires.
It was taken during the construction of Rockefeller Center, and

(29:59):
it was not a candid shot. It was like a
stage publicity photo. Your lunch. Yeah yeah, they were all
eating lunch on that thing at gunpoint, scared out of
their fucking just throwing These guys are so cool, but yeah,
I mean it was the reason they did it was
because people kept like fucking getting hurt making these tall

(30:22):
buildings for not enough pay. They were like, let's show
them like being chill about it.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah yeah, no, they like it.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, they love it.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
They like eating lunch all the way up there, no
safety harness, just chilling where it's like, now, this is
a picture of people who would never ever ever do
anything close to as dangerous as this ever. Yeah, and
it's unfortunate because they should.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, yeah, they should. So it does have that AI
stink on it where nobody knows what they're what the
people in the picture or video are looking at, right,
they're all just like doing different They're like all talking
to no one in particular. Nobody's like looking at each other.
I don't know if you saw the sizzle of that

(31:07):
AI actress is supposedly taking Hollywood by storm. Oh god.
At one point she's like giving a I think she's
like supposed to be doing a ted talk, but she's
like speaking to a room full of people, and everybody's
like looking in different directions. It's just like they haven't
master quite mastered the eye line match.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, it's the hardest thing to do as an actor
is nowhere to look.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I always get in trouble whenever I'm on set because
I always keep looking at the camera and going geez,
and you're you're not supposed to do that.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Apparently supposed to do that hard. Yeah, So they chose
to focus not on like AI and the promise of
the technology, but just like things like market cat, like
it's just.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
The people who are profiting off of it.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yes, yeah, good, it's in that way it is an
accurate screenshot of let or snapshot of like the mainstream
media is accounting of the universe in twenty twenty five,
in that like the mainstream media and like people like
the people who work at Time are obsessed with this shit.
They breathlessly reported every breakthrough and potential future that AI

(32:18):
hucksters put out there this year, and the article like
does acknowledge some potential downsides, but it's not the possibility
that this is all kind of hyped up bullshit, and
instead their negative stories are all about how like AI
might be like a superintelligence that's going to colonize the earth,
which it's too cool. It's it might be too cool.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Right, yeah, it's yeah, exactly awesome for you to even understand, idiot.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
As the leading companies it models improve AI systems may
eventually outcompete humans, as if an advanced species were on
the cusp of colonizing the earth. It says, it's a
six sentence.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
It's so funny to write that out, as if everyone's like,
I'm excited about that, Like, who's who's.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Happy about that?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Like, the only people who talk like this are when
you like are interviewing Peter Teel and when you're just
like should humanity survive?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And he's like, well, pauses for thirty five minutes question
as he wraps a belt around his neck.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh, I need to think about that for a while. Sorry,
I'm secreting right now, so.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Let me glance behind my ears.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I actually, yeah, sorry, getting I need my jar boy
in here to collect the glucose that comes out of
my boards.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
But this, I mean, this has been a big part
of Sam Altman's Like it is a genius part of
Sam Altman's pitch in that he has taken this thing
that is you know, like there there are good applications
of AI, like the decoding of the like protein structure
and like shit, that's gonna help science and mathematics. But
he's like turned it into a consumer product, right that

(34:02):
doesn't do what it claims to do, but by saying
by getting people to write ship like it's going to
colonize the earth, Like, hey, we we cover this article.
Like there's a New Yorker profile of him like eight
years ago where he like claims that he keeps a
suicide kit around for when like AI takes over and
decides to destroy us. He's like, I think about it

(34:25):
every day.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
You should jump the gun on that.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I do like the idea of it being multiple options
in the kit, Like we have gun with single bullet,
we have a vial of poison.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I think it was a I think it was suicide pills.
He said that he kept them close like pills to
kill him and his family. Yeah, yeah, exactly who did that?
But yeah, it covers the truth when you have like
big claims like that. It covers the truth that it's
essentially a buggy search engine that does a neat magic

(34:58):
trick of talking to you like it's human right that
you know.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Literally, the big magic of it was how much work
and energy and money and water went into something that
passes the Turing test, which is like, who gives an
actual shit? This thing still can't tell me what I
want for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
So fuck you?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
You know, at least Google AI can't.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Oh fuck, actually, what it will do it come up
with something cool that you want for Christmas, and but
it will be completely made up. It won't be a
real thing.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh I can't forget this, yea, it just it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Knows what you want. It can like use you know,
the shit to like figure out some something that you
might like, or like flatter you into thinking that you
want it, right, But then it doesn't have to actually
use reality, which is weird for a search engine, but
the actual article, you know, instead of being like they're

(35:55):
like all these scientific breakthroughs that could be possible with
this if they choose to focus it on things that
would actually help humanity. Instead, it's all just Wall Street bullshit. Yes,
and just like kissing the ass of these executives. I
just want to read a little bit from the opening
paragraphs here. The tone was set at Trump's inauguration. Tech

(36:17):
mogul streamed into Washington. Some sat behind the president during
his inaugural address, a signal of the power they would wield.
Oh my god, over the next eleven months. They would
use their enormous cash reserves, cultural power, and momentum to
push their products into homes across the world. That's right,
Like lining up to join the kleptocracy is a flex

(36:42):
on their part. Right, doesn't that feel like more pathetic
than anything?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, they're lining up to kiss the ring of the
world's fucking dumbest hamburger Man and They're just like, Wow,
look at us, look at us, so close to power,
as if they don't already have power via the hundreds
of millions of dollars, not billions of dollars they have.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
But this is what they're here. Here's a list of
like these guys fucking dominated this year at metow Mark
Zuckerberg placed a chatbot in two flagship products like Instagram
on WhatsApp, raided rivals to a mass talent, and doled
out compensation packages that paid machine learning engineers more than
professional ballplayers. Altman completed his transformation of open Ai, shedding

(37:25):
profit caps for investors and paving the way for future
investments and the five hundred billion dollar collosths well fun.
We all were glad that information is there, that this article,
when I was so excited when he shedded those profit caps. God,
this is literally an article I've written for people who
are in the c suite of a tech company like Field,

(37:48):
like Anthropics, the Frontier lab that styles itself as the
most safety conscious reportedly made plans to go public at
three hundred billion dollars. Yay. Then a quick, quick parenthetical
here and this is has nothing to do with anything
I don't know why we're even putting this in here.
Sure Salesforce ware Time owner Mark Benioff serves as CEO
as an investor in Anthropic m But anyways, Musk built

(38:10):
data centers and record time Google inserty Gemini AI answers
at the top of the search engine.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Fuck yeah, and gro called me the N word.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Right, thank you, Grock, Thank you, Grock.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Grok keeps calling me a kite, Thanks Krak. Yeah, fucking
like all of this shitty ass technology that does nothing
but give people who are already business owners, already CEOs
like a boner imagining the mass layoffs they're gonna do.

(38:46):
That's it, that's it.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, that's all it does. Intriguing them is like conquering heroes.
You're creating this technology.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
These tack bots, these highly effective things that don't make
me punch holes in my fucking life wall because I'm
trying to return something and I can't. It's none of
them work. Yeah, no problem has ever been solved. Yes,
they don't work.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
It's so annoying because it's like, look, forget the decimation
of like small town water supplies and the amount of
like electricity that they use so much so that it's
raising everyone's electricity bill.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Forget all of that. Every day by taking one of
those massage guns to my temple. Yeah, yeah, hard reset,
that's smart.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
That's actually I gotta try that. It's way better in therapy.
But no, forget all of that. All of that is
evil and bad. But also the technology sucks total ass if.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
It's not even good.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
If it was good, then you know, it would still
be bad, but at least I'd be like, well, you know,
it is to know what I want for Christmas, you know.
But like I was randomly, I was like, well, I
was watching Dalton Abbey, great show, and I was like,

(40:07):
what was the name of that episode where, you know,
I wanted to find the episode where Lord Grantham just
vomits blood in the middle of the table. And I
was like, so I googled it and then google as
Ai and AI told me it was the Red Wedding
from Game of Thrones. God, and I was like, how

(40:28):
are we How are we trusting this technology to handle
my returns on a fucking like package?

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I don't want you know? How we ye?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
It's they're replacing this technology, like people who work at
medical offices are getting repeated.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
This is being ready everywhere in the medical industry.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Right, It's insane. It doesn't even know what episode Lord
Grantham vomited blood.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, you have to check down tuneself an Abby for
that one.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, someday, someday.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
They revealed that they played around with making an AI
generated cover, which, to not beat what they actually came
up with is fucking crazy. But then they even released
some of the results and they're fucking terrifying, Like they're
they're they're either like the letters AI in a block
like just like they're like, what about like if you

(41:25):
had blocks that had AI on it.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, and they're scaffolding and it looks like dog shit.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
But yeah, yeah, no, that that was one of the
ones that they came up with themselves. There's one that's
like an evil robot that says AI on the forehead,
and then there's one.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That's pretty one or the other one.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
No, it's scary, scary one, and then the they have
a white guy, like just a real bland looking white guy,
but his eyes are completely white like that, like he's
like warging. It's working. They so, yeah, that is proof

(42:04):
of concept. Oh and you don't think that this shit
is crazy. Well look at this. It can't even design
the cover of its own magazine that's self relating. Sucks ass,
sucks ass. It did come out on a quote lousy
day for the industry, as Oracle shares are plummeting more
than twelve percent in pre market trading because reported massive

(42:27):
AI related expenses and a worse than expected outlook. As
we've talked about with ed Zitron from Better Offline Yeah
has pointed out that like there may be a fatal
flaw in AI's business model, Like they don't have a
way to make like they had this model they're pitching
to everybody that was like, we're gonna start doing this.

(42:48):
We're going to train the AI, and once it's trained,
like all every query, every time you query it like
it'll get smarter and more efficient and the you know,
it'll get less energy intensive, less expensive. And then they've
trained it and they're like, so it didn't get any
less expensive. We don't know any way to possibly make
it less expensive because like these computers are incredibly power,

(43:10):
Like we're we're creating human brains over here to like
make a fucking you know, goofy goofy Daisy Ducks slash
pit Garfield. Yeah, there's like major problems with any for
any forecasted profitability. And yeah, like people were ready to

(43:34):
call this a bubble like two weeks ago ahead of
Nvidia's like earnings report, but that earnings report was strong,
which they were like that proves AI works, instead of
being like that proves people are really hyped on this
AI thing that we think might all be hyped. You know. God,
it's just like people are buying the chips. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, and it's so you know this like using value
as a metric, this whole it's you know, it's it's
like when people point it's like when politicians point to
the fucking stock market and and they go like everyone's
doing great.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, there's just like tulip mania can't be a bubble
because look how expensive these tulips. How much? Look how
many damn tulips people are buying.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, it's it's this is real. This is a real thing.
Everyone wants this tulip.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, this gonna go up and up and up well
into the future.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
And the most annoying thing about it too, is like
this like you know, all of these overlords, like you
ever looked at fucking Sam Altman.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Oh yeah, all the time, fucking.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Oversized lollipop ass. Like fucking they all they all have
the the like they're all spiritually the berries and cream
guy from the Skittles commercials, you know, like there's just
little little Lord Fauntleroy ass like made of paper plates
and balsa wood, these delicate little boys and all, and

(45:05):
and it's it's I don't know, if someone's going to
create the technology that like, you know, destroys the environment
and puts everyone out of business, I at least want
them to be a muscleman, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
There's still time. Once they make these AI videos with
various WWE people replacing them in all their press conferences,
I'd be fine. It'll work.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, just big must.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
We're strong comedians. A big strong comedian I think is
the best of all the ones.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Who was the strongest one?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I mean you know who it is? Yeah, the king
tiny karate man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, it's it's like we forget too that like a
year ago and we're still hurtling towards a recession. But
like a year ago, it's like, you know what it
has to be profitability. Now it's not just you know
us seeing the valuation. You need to be able to
be a profitable company, right, and then these daisy duck
with tits like have completely reversed the like no, no, no,

(46:04):
it's all but we all need to be profitable. Fucking Ever,
what is this business model to your point? Yeah, there's
no point. Did you say something like here's how we're
going to make money off breats in the next hundred
years And.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
In fact it may be impossible to make might just
cost too much to build these things and have them operate. Anyways,
Good job Time magazine as always that the big controversy
other than like this sucking ship is people being like, actually,

(46:38):
you know what could have sucked more shit? People on
the writer are like, they should have done Charlie Kirk,
which you know, so you kind of made between the
two options i've heard thrown out time, I feel like
that probably.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Those are the two options options else in the.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
World, there are two favorite things and Charlie Kirk, because
together they make some pretty good fucking memes.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
They do. Let's take a quick break, we'll be right back,
and we're back. And we wanted to check him at
Tim Poole because Tim's a friend. Okay, we might not

(47:26):
agree on everything, but you know again, Beanie surgically attached
to his head, very famous podcast.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Everyone knows him, Everyone loves him.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Everybody knows him. He's got everybody's like. His podcast is
so popular, except we can't prove that anyone listens to it.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Well, clearly someone must listen to it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, at the Kremlin.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, because he's so good and he's working, and somebody
at the Kremlin has given him a whate hundred thousand
dollars a week.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Was that his I think that was I think that's
what he was getting. So he he has it was
revealed I think this year that he was being funded
by the Kremlin, by Russia. Uh. He has just come
out and said he may have to put the tools
down boys because of all the costs associated with his safety.

(48:21):
There was a point last year or like you know,
around the time that the Kremlin hit came out where
he's like this, this podcasting ship is just too expensive, dude.
It's like, I have to pay this guy. I have
to pay that guy. I got it. It's fucking crazy.
And I can report from the inside.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, report the costs of podcast.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Entry, especially your podcast. I mean, you don't have anybody
making you. I mean we have, you know, super producer,
Justin Brian the editor making us look good. Nobody's making
you look good. So you're is about there, Jack, But
he's not.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
You, Blake, he's a guest. No, I'm sticking up for Matt.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh oh no, not not me, Justin No edits on it. No,
I'm talking about Tim Poole Man. Tim Poole's got nobody
making him.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Look good, and I look good naturally, so I knew
he wasn't talking.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Okay, sorry, keep on edit that end.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Make that the whole show on a loop. But he
has said that he's, in addition to the very high
cost of making a podcast where you know, I guess
there's no hair, might make a budget because he has
a fucking beanie on always everywhere, But you know, he
he does have to turn those cameras on pure press

(49:44):
some buttons. He said he's had to hire round the
clock security because people want to kill him, and the
costs are now exceeding revenue. So again he was already
claiming before that the costs are too much. Now he's
claiming that the costs are too much because everyone trying
to kill him. And he did report that people were
shooting his house. Now the police got wind of that,

(50:09):
they were like, wait, what there is a fucking shooting
at your house, man, Like, that's that's really a big
deal to us house slaughter. Yeah, you're you're a you're
a white guy. This is big news to us property.
We're gonna cut yeah, yeah, exactly. And so they looked
into it, and according to the police, reports of shots

(50:32):
fired at this residence cannot be substantiated at this time.
According to Berkeley County Sheriff's office is.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
In Berkeley, California this whole time, it's Berkeley, Siberia.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I actually have no idea where this is. They also
added that Pool has refused to release security footage recording
recorded the night of the alleged shooting. Why you don't
want to see that, man, it's actually it's too scary.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I don't want scary German shepherds he hired for security
got hit right, Oh.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
My god, I love it. Like the the best way
to like do a pledge drive if you were a
right wing like grifter podcaster, is you know this is
equivalent to turning on NPR and hearing you know, the
waight weight don't tell me guy to like pitch in
and then get a tote bag with all of them though,

(51:30):
it's like they're trying.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
To kill me for talent, and PR should try that,
they really should. They're trying to murder us. Yeah, he Uh,
it is possible that because the d o J exposed
that he was basically a Russian sock puppet in this
past year, they were bankrolling his entire podcast operation, and

(51:55):
maybe because that exposure caused the Kremlin money hoes to
turn off. That is why he has an unrealistic expectation
of like what it costs to run a podcast, right, yeah,
clearly no or you know, he's just scared and he
had to hire. I hired the entire Seal Team six

(52:15):
to protect my home, all six of them protect my
fucking podcast operation.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Yeah, I mean, the the funniest thing is Timothy Poole
expecting us to believe that he's on anyone's radar, you
know what I mean, Like, come on, yeah, no one's
trying to kill you.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Nobody cares this, No one cares.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
This is this is not uh, you know, there's just
there's no way it's real because nobody knows who you are. Like,
he lost relevance a long time ago. He's a lot
of yes.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, yeah, he just yeah, I mean Russia. Maybe that
is why he's scared. He was getting a paycheck directly
from the Kremlin. Yes, that would be bad.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's actually a good point. Maybe he is
scared of the Russians.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
That's right, that'd be sick, so scared that he won't
show you the footage of them shooting his house. All right,
And finally, there's a new trendy answer to what's your
favorite Christmas movie? And it is eyes wide shut? Are
you guys? I heard shut.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Heads certainly, not ahead, but I heard wide shut ins
I did hear vaguely. Had someone explain this, and I
already forgot the explanation. I guess because it happens during Christmas.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Happens during Christmas. There's a lot of atmospheric lighting. I
have a thing that I bring up so much on
this show that Miles literally rolls his eyes and starts
making the jack off hand motion every time I do.
But that the holiday season based on when the most
common birthdays are of the year, The holiday seasons are
humanities mating season, so it's a hornier part of the

(54:00):
year than people give it credit for. And this would
be one movie that actually, you know, puts the X
a X mess. Do you guys know what I mean
by that? You you know what I mean? But I
think Blake Blake just got a real horny smile on it,

(54:20):
So I that's no.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
It's interesting because December is when I fucking a mask
because it's so cold. My eyes get so cold. I
have to warm my eyes with the mask. So this does,
this does check out.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
It's one of those I masks, one of those like
sleep masks.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah, I don't want to see.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I don't want to see what is this a drawer?
I can't see anything.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I guess a give mask would be a good one
because give masks don't have eyes, right, but they're so
unless they earn them.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah you know, Yeah, you got to earn.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Those you give eyes away. Yeah, everyone got a meritocracy.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
But yeah, it does happen at Christmas. There's a Christmas
party that they're at that like kind of kicks the
whole thing off when he runs into his old friend
and saves the woman from the o D and meets
the person who I mean, he knows this doctor guy,
but the doctor guy who's played by what's that director's name? Who?

(55:20):
Now Sidney. The guy who's played by Sidney Pollack is
people think is like an Epstein figure. That's the first
time we see him at his Christmas party. He he
comes in to save a woman from an o D
And Sidney Pollack's character is pulling up his pants as

(55:42):
the woman has like already, Odd.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
I really need to see this movie again. It's I
don't remember that. Like I'm trying to think of what
I remember from that movie. I remember a lot of
walking outside.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yes, he does do a lot of wandering around like
he's in a dream. The novel it's based on, I think,
is like called something to that effect that it like
and the whole thing feels like it's like walking outside,
like it's in a dream of The book does have
the book at the end of it clarify.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
I think more books need to have the book on it.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
It's hard to tell but what people think. A lot
of people are saying that it's especially relevant this year
because of the Epstein case and specifically that Kubrick. Have
you guys seen the Room, the documentary about all the

(56:38):
conspiracy theories in the Shine, like all the theories around
what the shining means. No, tell me about it. There's
it's good we're not here. Some that's like it's about colonialism.
There's one that's about it's about how Kubrick helped fake
the moon landing.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
But there's like great evidence for all of them. There's
just like so much shit in a Kubrick movie that
you can like support anything. But this one is explicitly
about like a dark, rich sex cult, you know, right.
This Hollywood Reporter article on this says, well, Kubrick captures
it is a world where someone like Jeffrey Epstein becomes

(57:19):
almost inevitable a dark a dark nexus of money, secrecy, impunity,
and male sexual desire warped by institutional power.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
It's so funny because the movie is so much more
boring than that.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
I know. Yeah, it is like it has it has
like wild shit happening in it, and the vibe is
like very much like what why is this so sleepy?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Yeah? Like why am I watching it an orgy? It
is kind of crazy. I also have a like a
general distaste for movies that are like, We're a sexy
fucking orgy movie, and I'm like, I've seen poring. I
want to watch Dick's go in and then and then
show that.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
In a crowded theater.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
You yelled at, Yeah, I yell at Yeah, my whole
family there, Like, I want to just go in during
this Christmas movie. It's just bullshit. So yeah, I remember
being like very bored by it. But maybe it's better
than I Maybe I saw it at a weirder time
in my life. Yeah, now that I'm not going to
therapy anymore, I should probably check it out again. It's

(58:24):
gonna fuck you up, yeah, kind of tear through you.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Yes, But yeah, I mean there's always widespread conspiracy theories
about Kubrick movies, but about this one, people are really
saying like this was explicitly about Epstein and he was
killed as a result. Because it was made in ninety nine.
Epstein's operation started in the mid nineties. There's a twenty
twenty four clip of the co writer of pulp fiction

(58:49):
Roger Avery, on Joe Rogan's podcast So He's a Cool Guy,
where he implies that Kubrick's death was suspicious and explains
that the original ending was supposed to make it clear
that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kimmen were going to hand
their daughter over to the Peedo cult, as he calls it,
There is weird shit in that last scene. Like the

(59:10):
movie ends with them walking around a toy store, like
being like, so what do we learn here? How do
we save our marriage? And it ends with Nicole Kimman
being like, I guess we have to fuck in the
toy store. But there are like people have pointed out
there's like weird like people in the background walking around
like making furtive like looks at them and like their kid,

(59:36):
And people have like speculated that like the cult has
not like in fact, let him get away and then
something's gonna happen with his kid, like at the end,
after the end of the movie. But yeah, apparently this
has become an obsession with gen Z. They're on board.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I mean, good for them, you know. I like when
they get excited about a movie.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
You know, yeah, me too. It's like, I'm here for it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
That's fun. That's a fun thing to get excited about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
There. They might be a little too excited. There's they've
linked the theory or one of the theories links the
kidnapping of Madeline McCann uh and the supposed kidnapping of
the daughter that actually doesn't happen in the movie, but
it is just a thing that the co writer of
Pulp Fiction said was supposed to happen to the movie.

(01:00:24):
The one problem with that is that Madame Madeline McCann
wasn't even born until nineteen ninety nine, so he would
have had to like really have like some pretty some
pretty incredible planning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, that is h yeah, and I don't I don't
think I even know this story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Yeah, oh wait, Madeline McCann story.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I don't know Madeline McCann.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
You don't you don't know. I can't just say that reference. No,
it's a weird Eberg situation. Who is who is Madeline?
I have no idea, all right, I just thought you
guys would know. Yeah, I'm not. But it's it's just
them being like this future crime. It's connected and like
the victim was not born when the movie came like
wrapped small detail, one detail that like these online conspiracy theories,

(01:01:11):
for me, I always like, Okay, that's bullshit. This seems
like bullshit. And then there's like one detail where you're like,
wait a second. So Reddit theorists have pointed out that
Larry Solona, the journalist who broke the story of Epstein's
death and Maxwell's arrest, is actually name checked in Eyes
Wide Shut. His name is the byeline of an article
about the death of the woman that Tom Cruise thinks

(01:01:34):
saved him at the orgy, which like it's a says
ex beauty queen in hotel drug overdose. The byeline is
Larry Solona, and people are like, no, the only reason
they did that is because Solona was the production's media consultant.
But that seems like connective tissue to me. Like this

(01:01:55):
person who eventually broke the Epstein story was the media
consultant on this movie, so like he could speak to
like this world of you know, obviously, like that's part
of like what he reports on, So he could speak
to this world of like crazy shit that was happening.
That does seem like a pretty good connection to me.

(01:02:19):
Like this movie was at least somewhat informed by the
real powerful people sex trafficking that was happening at the time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
You know, yeah, it could be, it could be the figure,
it would be the movie would be more interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I gotta going back to how boring.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I gotta see it again because I know I've tried twice.
I was on in pres.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Therapy has really made people tolerate that movie and so boring,
and now that you're not therapized.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Yeah, therapy is actually just a form of hypnosis that
makes you think Eyes White Shut is good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
That's the conspiracy nobody wants to talk about. But yeah,
I mean, the idea for the movie comes from a
nineteen twenties book that is like based on ancient like
secret society.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
So it's not like it's not like this guy caught
you exactly. It's not like this guy that gave Kubrick
the idea for the movie. It was like a movie
about a weird, shadowy sex cult. And then maybe this
guy was like, you know, this reminds me of this guy,
this New York financier Jeff Epstein.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
I don't know if you're familiar with it, I've ever heard.
Oh yeah, but I mean, none of this is like
like he he was also thinking about casting like it.
First of all, he first started planning Eyes Wide Shut
like after he made two thousand and one, so it
was like he'd been working on it since the sixties
or early seventies, and like he was at one point

(01:03:50):
thinking about casting Woody Allen in the movie, which would
have really that would have worked, That really would have
fucked us. Yeah, it would have ruined everything. Yeah, I
don't think it would gone so well. But anyways, interesting
thing for you to know about the new thing. So
when somebody's like, my favorite Christmas movie, Eyes Wide Shut,

(01:04:11):
you can now have an informed, semi informed, dumb conversation
about how it's all based on real conspiracy.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
See, I maybe there's part of me that goes, like
you're in that conversation and so what's your favorite Christmas movie?
And a guy goes, oh, die Hard and you go, oh,
I got one better for you, Eyes Wide Shut? Really why?
And then the longest explanation about Jeffrey Epstein, and like

(01:04:39):
the byeline was by the guy you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Know, eventually good at a party, Man, I'm good at
a party.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Can come to this party? Oh I mean this sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
No, you you did a great job.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
But I can't imagine anyone trying to make the case
without eventually being committed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
It'd be like, oh, you've ever been to a psych.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Ward Yeah, I like guys. Shut they almost have Woody
Allen in it, and then it would have been better.
And that's all they said.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
It's like you want to drink, buddy, hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
A little more. I've already had a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah, what's what's six more?

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Matt Leave Such a pleasure as always having you on
the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Good being here. I love you guys. I love being here.
I love seeing you. Jack hate therapy. I love seeing
Miles Blake. I love seeing you too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Oh uh, that's something I like to see you. Guys
say you love each other.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I love everybody, and I love all the Now kiss
all the listeners out here. Now let's kiss. Uh yeah,
happen to be here?

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Where where can people find you? Follow you? Hear you?
All that could stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
If you would like to listen to my mad Men podcast,
go to any podcast app, type in pod yourself a gun,
and then you will find a very long feed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Scroll up to the top of that feed, and the
first things you'll see is mad Yourself a Man. It's
uh done the first three seasons, so please listen to
those and get excited for season four. Also, listening to
bad has bar the World's most moral podcast wherever you
get your podcasts?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And is there a workimedia you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Well, there's a tweet and it's a tweet with a video.
I don't know this has been going around for a
long time, but do you have you seen? No, it's
not the great, No that that lady is great. No,
it's it is like a it's from TikTok. It's this

(01:06:36):
guy who looks like a really handsome rocker guy and
he sings the song where he does the intro where
he goes like, so this is a song about how
a lady, you know, everyone's first impression of her is
that she's really innocent, but she actually has a really
dirty mind. And then he plays the song she got
that innocent face in a dirty little mind, And that's

(01:06:58):
all you hear of it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Have you guys know that one? I love this?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Okay, So there's this is two memes deep in there's
another meme of that where he does that entire intro
and then as soon as.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
What should we ask you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Oh, sorry, guys, I had a stroke. I have to
explain two memes in order to get to this one.
All right, Okay, there's a version of the She's Got
You know, I should just send it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Uh, because you can't send it to the listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
So again it's the same guy. So this is a
song about a girl where everyone's impression of her she's
really innocent, but when you talk to her you find
she kind of got her dirty mind. And right as
you think he's gonna sing the line she got an
innocent face and a dirty little mind, John Coltrane starts
playing and it says, you just got Coltrane send this
to someone to train them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That some people are training you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's rick rolling. It's the smeirnoff
ice thing. You know, it's uh, but it's it's training them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
You send Rose training bros. You tricked up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
This is from an account called Jazz Dispensary. They got
a lot of funny jazz memes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Memes are the new thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
That's the new thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
That's what I've been enjoying, you know. Uh yeah, great, Blake,
where can people find you? Is there a workimedia you've
been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I wish I had the recall ability to say exactly
what exactly word for it. And it's killing me that
I know there's a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
So there's a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, so there's this guy. So it's just a dirty mind.
I will be Come see me live. I'm doing stand up.
Come see me January sixteenth in New York at Little
Field in Brooklyn. If tickets don't start moving to that,
I will have a very panic attack. So January sixteenth,
Little Field in Brooklyn, and then March fifth, I'm going

(01:09:05):
to be at Helium Comedy Club in Atlanta. And a
work of media I've been enjoying I got. I came
across this old Norm MacDonald clip the other day where
he was talking about walking through New York and how
you hear the craziest things, which is obviously like the
Norm genius of taking the most like well trodden subject

(01:09:26):
and then like normifying it, where he was like, yeah,
I was walking these two guys and one of them
was just like, man, when the hell did you play
goaltender for the Montreal Canadian. Just made me laugh so hard.
So that's a clip. Don't know what account it came from,
but it doesn't matter. So yeah, it doesn't mess what
I we'd enjoying. We don't give a shit about authorship

(01:09:47):
on this norm said it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
No no no no no no no no sorry, I
forgot to plug on Saturday. This Saturday, which is tomorrow,
I'm going to be at the Ice House in Pasadena
with my wife Francesca Forarantini. We're gonna do stand up.
So please come up to that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
That's such a great comedy club too. I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
I love that club.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore
O'Brian on Blue Sky at Jack Obeie the number one
I've been enjoying. Uh, there's a great anecdote out there.
I think it's Will Arnette on a show talking talking
to Conan O'Brien about how they grieved Cone, how ConA
like the conversation they had when Conan's parents died within

(01:10:29):
a week of each other. And it's just it's the best.
It's really fucking funny. Go go find that. I'm not
going to describe it to you. And then so they go,
and it's just Will Arnett being like, so there's this
girl with the pretty face.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
John Coltran's you Get Trained.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
And I also like to tweet from a Misty Mole,
which describes my parenting philosophy, which says you're on thick ice,
Young Lady, frozen all the way to the bottom. In fact,
not gonna lie. You could get away with pretty much
anything here. You can find us on Twitter and Blue
Sky at Daily Zeitgeist read the Daily's Eye gist on Instagram.
You can go to the description of this episode wherever

(01:11:13):
you're listening to it, and there at the bottom you
will find a footnotes sorry is where we link off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy. With Miles still out, we do like
to ask super producer Justin Connor to come in and
tell us what is a thong? What is a thong?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
What's a song that you're wearing?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yeah, this is the thong? How did you use the thong? Song? Though?
Everyone the song? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
You do love cisco?

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah? Yeah? What's what's a song people might enjoy us?

Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
If you're a fan of people who play live instruments,
then you should check out this song called Follow the
Light by Dirty Loops and Corey Wong. The horn section
goes crazy, Uh, bass players out there, We really appreciate
the rapid fire sixteenth notes and the singer has a
great falsetto, so there's also an unbelievable key change in
the last ten seconds that will just blow the mind

(01:12:05):
of any music lover. So that again it's called follow
the Light by Dirty Loops and Corey Wong, and you
can find that in the Footnoops.

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(01:12:35):
the most famous Icon that we've covered yet, and we
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Bye bye bye.

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The Daily zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long,
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