Fine Arts LARPing, Princess Ghislaine’s Royal Treatment 11.11.25

In episode 1962, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of No Such Thing, Devan Joesph & Manny Fidel, to discuss… You A Talentless Dipsh*t With A Lot Of Money And No Musical Experience? The Emperor’s New Clothes Era is Upon Us..., Rudy Giuliani And Mark Meadows Pardoned Via Tweet, Ghislaine Is Going To Get Out? And more!

1. MAGA Loyalist With No Experience Conducts Orchestra at Trump’s Kennedy Center
2. Ghislaine Is Going To Get Out?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. Boom.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm having to be a yeah, Miles, I give your
British accent four.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Booms, thank you, boom boom.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
How does that rank with the the Costco Chicken bake
my English accent rack?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Do they always get five? What's their boom ranking? I
don't know how many, dude, I'm just more easy critics.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Look at them, like, look at them.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
These are better than Ciskel and Ebert's thing.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
How many booms?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
And I give Forrest Gump one boom.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
They look like the kind of people who are like
they'll look at a like a special at Applebee's and.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Be like whoa, And they're not wrong.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Southwest egg Rolls this is a little now, this is
a little adventurous for I was a little nervous going
in Southwest egg rolls, not my normal eggs.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Avocado and something that's deep fred. I thought it would
be weird to have a warm avocado. I'm used to
having wacka male usually at Chipotle, but this was really good.
This was really yummy.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
And then the Southwest sauce that they put on top,
it's also got chapolte on it.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh buddy, I gotta give you five booms. Shut the
fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I didn't know that you could have egg rolls that
were not Philly cheese steak. I thought that was the
only type of egg roll that they.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Cheese steak A groh, I get it, I get a
whiz with egg roll. Could you imagine a cheat like
an actual deep I mean, I'm sure they're oh yeah,
or like, because I feel like that's the thing outside
of Philly people like because it's just like beef and
cheese egg roll. Like, is there someone who's like, we
use the same flower for the omarosa role that we

(01:57):
use to make the friggy wanton skin.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think it's pretty chilly, like chain restaurant code. Yeah,
I don't think it's just like Philly cheese steak everything. Yeah,
Philly cheese steak, pizza, Philly cheese steak burgers, Philly cheese.
I said, I think they had a Philly cheese steak
burger that had the cheese steak steak on top.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Of a hamburger.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
That's fucking dumb, that's too lot on a hat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, Philly cheese steak, Philly cheese steak. We topped your
Philly cheese steak with another Philly cheese steak.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I mean, as somebody who ate the Arby's meat Mountain twice,
I can't really say that's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Damn you went back for another one.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's like, I'm going back to the food challenge of
multiple times. I just I had I don't want to.
It was a rough time. It was twenty fourteen. Man, Yeah,
I hadn't. I hadn't, you know, I had n't mat
her majesty yet. I was kind of on a weird path.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
You thought this was what your life was gonna be. Yeah,
that's just going around trying different meat mountains.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I thought I would suffocate under a pile of meat
mountain wrappers in my room, just fucking hoarding them all
as I drifted off into meat sanity.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four to fourteen,
Episode two of turnily THI guys.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
What's the production of? iHeart Radio?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Is a podcast where we take a deep dive and
do American share consciousness. And it's Tuesday, November eleventh, twenty
twenty five, eleven at a lot of fun. Yeah, it's
eleven eleven day. Pretty good, pretty good branding.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
They should do something with that, you know, the eleventh day,
the eleventh month. Heaby something, it's actually national, it's National Sunday,
pitch miles, Yes, but today is National Sunday Day, November.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Eleventh, Sunday, like the ice cream, Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
And also the armist is gonna be like they were
way off. Yeah, something about an armistice and Veterans Day. Also,
that's that's why my kid has no.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Spook eleven leven leven, leve leve leven.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Shout out to the veterans, Shout out to the veterinarians.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Also, yeah, all the all the.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, private equity will soon ruin the military if it
hasn't already, like it has veterinary care. So we'll see.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
There's gotta be some wild meetings. So somebody needs to leave.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
About like what private equity has exciting right now? Like
we have run through all the good ones and now
we're going shame dude.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Disposable guns they're great, single use boom gone, No one
can use them after they will never put them.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Out like put a put a big punch bowl of
them out at a wedding instead of remember these that
was a disposable camera. Oh yeah, oh yeah they still
do they still do all right. My name is Jack O'Brien,
ak oh. I would use five hundred dogs, and I
would use five hundred more if it meant that Max

(04:58):
could get a chance to run again in the front yard.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Who's a good boy. Who's a good boy. Who's a
good boy. Who's a good boy.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It took ten thousand other dogs to make you that one?
Courtesy of Sam Antics on the Discord in reference to
the fact that Tom Brady just did a viral drop
of his dead dog, just dropped a cloned version of
his dead dog. And we found out that when they
first started cloning dogs, this company was using the Russian

(05:29):
Space Program method of just like throwing dogs at the thing.
They're just like ten thousand dollars were just being used
to get to one cloned dog. Sam Antics thrilled to
be joined as always buy.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
My co host, mister Miles Grass This.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Miles Gray aka stop drop. Guess if Eli Lilly just
slapped no RFK said he had to go.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Okay, shout out to p Nuddy Brown on the discord
for that, because yeah, the guy, A lot of people
in your AKA you wrote. The CEO of Noble nordis
passed out that's actually that's not true. Okay, I just
want to clear something that was not the guy from
Noble Nordis that was a guest of Eli Lilly and
also g LP one patient, so that that might not
be the best thing to be like, yeah, my man's

(06:20):
on GLP when he's like falling down.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thank you for I saw people being like they said
that RFK was running to call somebody on the phone,
Like what.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Is this the sixties. There's just like a red phone somewhere.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You're talking fucking mobile.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You can't be like to the thousands of people in
the room with you, be like, hey.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Somebody call call someone.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
He looked, I mean, I'll give it to him. Like
there's a bad family history of men and his people
around him just dropping, you know what I mean. So
that may have been like you you know, like you know.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Miles thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats.
But you're very talented writers who are two of the
co hosts of the Signal Award winning Yes, no such thing.
It's many fit Allen, Devin Joseph.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Can you drop like a funk Master flex bomb?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I'll have one ready next time. Yeah, and then
and I will scream that's what we call motherfucking bars.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
But first, indeed, how are you guys doing doing? All right, Yeah,
we're happy to be here, Thanks for inviting.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Us, Thanks for being here. Congrats on the Signal award
for public service. You're doing, you're doing.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I always say that, Yeah, you're welcome to do and recognition. Welcome.
Just before we start the podcast, this is a public service.
Now let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, it was like public service, social impact and activism.
I think it was like three these things combined into
one into one title. But yeah, we're thrilled. Well good work. Yeah, yeah,
thank you, Andrew. Welcome in the show.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Is I really enjoyed the shower episode that was That
was maybe not be the one that they recognized you for,
but yeah, should.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Be learning about a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Incredible feedback to that episode. People were really upset that
that we said that they should shower once a day,
at least once a day. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
What you do in the shower is such like a
private time. What you're like doing it wrong? What we
do in the showers? Yeah, I wrote you you guys
talk about white people not using wash clause and I
remember being roasted for not using a washcloth when I
was like at a basketball camp in like I was

(08:55):
like twelve or something, and my friend.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, so how do you
wash your dick? And then like Jack, what No? And
from then on did they I'm sorry, did they bring
their wash cloths to the camp? Yeah? Yeah, wash cloth?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
And I was walking to the showers and there's like, oh,
you don't share it with the wash cloth, so you
were just hands only at the time. I was hands
only with hands What about these days? Yeah, I use
a sponge. There you go, car just like a kitchen sponge. Yeah,

(09:40):
scrub daddy.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was funny because the our expert for the episode
never said like, hey, if you don't shower once a day,
you're gonna die. It's like just her kind of like
clinical recommendation. And we just had so many people calling
in like what the hell this is fu cracked once
a week and I'm fine and yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Right, well she never said you'd be You wouldn't be
fine if you she was saying for me, that's what
i'd sayers.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, it's a lot of hit dogs hollering.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, it is an episode that is the general thing
you hear from people, you know, because people on the
internet love a counterintuitive position, and the counterintuitive position is like,
m mmm, oh, you're showering.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Every day like your brain and body tell you you should.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's incorrect.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Actually I don't get sunburns because I don't exfoliate my
dead skin.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, it's absorbing you like already, So she just sloths
off my body like a lizard.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You may have an advantage with melanated skin, but I
have an advantage with all this dead skin. It's never
clear though.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, and I'm not implying that all white people are
lizard people.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Okay, you aren't.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
But you know what, Jack, some of us, we know.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
You will see my eyelids blink sideways that we already
did they already.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's my favorite piece of evidence for or in favor
of there being like lizard people, is that there's like
a glitch in a video and someone's like, whoa, whoa,
Only a lizard would do that. Only lizard people skip frames.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah exactly. Oh my god, dude, look at this lizard.
It's in twenty four p My god.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
All right, we're gonna get to know you guys a
little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of
stories that we're talking about today. The Emperor's New Clothes
era is upon us with the extremely wealthy living like
there make a wish kids in a lot of cases.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Make a wish. Men Jack disparage the children.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, you just feel, Yeah, they're so isolated and they're
just doing the wildest shit. We're gonna talk about some
old shit, some bill ackman who bought himself onto the
usta like an ATP tour, like professional tennis match where
he's like playing with a former top ten player and
got rinsed. But then yeah, there's some new oblivious billionaires

(12:16):
in the news that we want to talk about, and
the President. Then we're going to talk about the pardon fest.
But a bunch of people got pardoned on via Twitter.
We'll ask if Gilaine.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is going to get pardoned.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
We might even get to target forcing their employees to smile.
All of that plenty more. But first, Manny, Devin, we
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Devin? You want to kick us off?

Speaker 7 (12:47):
Yeah, I was looking up. There's a new show out
called Helen Harper. I don't know if y'all are up
on this no other, but I have not seen it. Okay,
it's on movie. It's by this dude. It just makes
me mad because he's like, I think, like four or
five years younger than us, named Cooper Rife, who does

(13:08):
these like like really sentimental, like really earnest typically movies.
This is the first TV show you produced it independently.
It's Mark Ruffalo's in it, Wily Ryan Hurt's in it.
So my last Google I was trying to say when
the next episode was coming out.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's out. I haven't watched it yet. It's a recommend.
It's a recommend.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
It's definitely if you want to be in your feelings.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's a heart you recommend.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Like it's a sentimental thing. Oh and that is what
I'm here for.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh yeah, it's interesting. I don't think I've had to
google when the next episode of a TV shows. That
is one of the oldest things I've heard.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
It's all you know, they're doing the streaming thing, but
it's coming out weekly, but I don't know what day
of a week it comes out. I sometimes want to
just pull it up. So I was like before I
go sit at my TV.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Twenty eight. Yeah, he's twenty eight. Jeez, it's wild Coopers.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
The young Coopers are coming for us. All Cooper Flag,
Cooper Rife, Oh yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Directs edits. It's any accident, all right, you know what?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Thank you? All right?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Everything he does, the color grading, yeah, yeah, he's the
full everybody went fucking everything. Man, he's the gaffer.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, best boy. Speaking of up and coming, Cooper's uh yeah,
did you see the news today that Cooper Flag was
practicing to the sounds of Marvin's Room by Drake in
the Dallas practice facility. It's everything like that.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
He's on a bad he's on whatever the opposite of
a heater is right now where it's like everybody like
he's sucking and he's practicing the Marvin's Room the most
bad boy shit possible because like he looks like he's
practicing the Marvin's Room out there, like he got.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
He got ripped by c. J.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
McCollum a game, and like his whole fucking body just
like slumped, like he was.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Just like, oh crazy, it's crazy. Just how much I
guess hype and you know how much hype has been
put on him. But there where he feels like he
has to perform, so like any little misstep is you know,
now you're listening to Drake during that it's tough. Es.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Everything would be fine if there weren't like five other
rookies who were like playing out of their fucking minds
right now. It's like the greatest rookie class too.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Like, okay, Cooper Flag is how old he's like? What nineteen? Yeah, okay,
Marvin's Room came out when I was in high school,
So how old was he when Marvin's Room came out?
This might be like a real old It's like last
song for him. He's my parents were listening to this. Yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
What's the now? That's what I call music.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Off U Manny?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
What's something from your search history?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I've been I've been recently searching a lot of strollers.
So I'm having a kid in jail. Whoa Yeah, yeah,
crazy news if you know me.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
The last three were taken by the city.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
So again, the thing I'm googling was, you know, we're
just we just made our baby registry lists and stuff,
and like you wouldn't believe the different combinations of strollers,
like just the unlimited amount of going with the travel options. Yeah,
we're gonna go go through the travel system ahead. You know.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
It's it's kind of weird explaining myself when I'm at
these baby stores. I don't have any kids, but I'm
an enthusiast. Yeah, it all depends on what you need,
what kind of and you're going over because I think
the I mean, look, the wheels I think are the
biggest factor when you're choosing some of these strollers as well.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, they're all got some shocks on that bad boy,
you know. Yeah, right, Yeah, we're gonna need some shock resistant.
We need something that really absorbs the like potholes and
the human feces on the sidewalks of New York. Yeah. Yeah,
but yeah, that's that's something I've been Google searching real recently. Okay, okay,
what is something that you think is underrated?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Manny?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Underrated? I think this one. It's kind of cheating because
I think it's pretty adequately adequately rated amongst the you know,
most average people. But I think the new Tam and
Paula album is a little underrated in my friend group,
in my social circles. So I'm using this as a
platform to say, actually, you guys are overthinking this one.

(17:49):
The album kind of rips, and I don't know. The
first time I listened to it back front to back,
I was like, okay, it's you know, a couple of
good tracks, but I'm but overall fine. But yeah, I've
been fine myself returning to it. It's got like a
couple of club records on there, but they like start
off as pop records and then they turn into club records,
so you have to kind of sit through some stuff first.

(18:09):
But yeah, that's one thing I've been thinking about lately.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, it's great. That's a great album. I have similar friends,
but like a lot of us are really into Kevin Parker,
so he's been talking about doing an album like this
for a while. So when it finally came out, was like, great,
let's hear it. Like everything you do is fucking solid.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, got a bad review on Pitchfork, so a lot
of people aren't follow it down there. Pol fans who
are four to eight damn yeah crazy, they're like, this
isn't loneurism.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
You're like this.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
If you find yourself bopping your head through the album,
it's minimum of five, then you can start to get
into Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's actively bad, not even like eh mid you know,
for it's like, yeah, you're not even trying. People just
have such a problem and like their favorite artists. Anything
that's like for them creatively, that like deviates because so
many people are like, well, where's the next Tame Impala album,
rather than like, this is Kevin Parker doing a This

(19:11):
is just him expressing himself. This is why you're you
consume art to let the artists impress.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah you want something, you know, yeah, you want some evolution,
then go yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
If you don't, just throw currents back in your fucking
system and bang that for the rest of the day.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Well they didn't take that one away when.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh Inner Speaker gone, Lonarism gone gone.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Only this about you, Devin, what's something he thinks underd underrated?

Speaker 7 (19:39):
I'm staying with music justice for lord, you know, no
Grammy nominations. I went saw her live show at MSG insane,
one of I would say the best shows I've ever
been to.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Oh really wow, And I bought.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Tickets as the show is happening, as the openers were happening.
It was really last man. I was like, I don't
want to spend all this money. Tickets came down a
little bit. Yeah, pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Well, when the doors are open, I'm sure those tickets
are the desperation unload of tickets. That's usually how I
buy concert tickets.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And just to put a qualifier on Devin's statement that
this is someone who goes to shows twice a month
at least, yeah, yeah, right, So to say this is
the best one you've ever seen is kind of nuts.
Want to do one of.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
The best, the best, but it's up there. It's up there.
What is it? I mean, like I only know her
from the Royals Tennis Court era of things, and you
were in a metal drama head. No, I sadly I
missed that wave. I missed.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
That is why it's an underrated because people like Miles
out there.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Wow all Tim, I really like this album too, But
it translates really well live. It's like you go to
certain shows and you're like, oh, that was cool, Like
they played the music and like we sort of bob
their heads and like left. But it's like the energy
at ms I've been in MSGY a lot of times.
I've never seen the energy at MSH. Everyone like every

(21:04):
song like let's go because that Trump rally was cracking, right,
you were saying exactly not since then, that's just that
Puerto Rico joke.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Have we like that?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's so hard it was really to laugh. It's really
sad in retrospect, a lot so many of us thinking like, yeah,
Trump campaign's finished.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now after that one, we just go, look, it's about
to get.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
A lot worse. All right, Well, what's something you think
is overrated them?

Speaker 7 (21:42):
You know, Game of Thrones. I'm gonna say it. I'm
just like, he came up again. Now, this is why
am I talking about Game of Thrones right now? It
came up recently and I was talking to one of
my friends and they're like, you haven't seen Game of Thrones.
I saw the first season. It felt like homework. I

(22:03):
didn't watch it while it was happening, which was funny
because me and Manual working together and he was doing
like recap videos and I was reviewing it, although I
didn't watch the show, so I don't know what type
of review I was doing on these videos.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Sorry, recap. You were reviewing his recap in the show.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I was his editor.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
You were okay, oh god, yeah, some important context. We
were working at Business Insider at the time, and okay, yeah,
we're big Business Insider heads, particularly.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Whenever they do profiles on the profile people, I'm yes, yes, yes,
more of it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh yeah, and it's like, yeah, my name is Chad and.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That was my favorite.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah. Game of Thrones. I mean, I'm actually someone who
I loved the show, but I'm I believe that it
got bad before the average person thinks it got but
like started to get bad, if that makes sense. I
think people are like the last season and sucked. But really,
when they caught up to the books, it was like
an end of season four or something. It's you start
to see you start to see the kind of quality

(23:09):
fall apart a little bit. But yeah, it was what
was happening when the books caught up. Was it just
it's weird because some of the storylines were caught up
and some of them weren't based on how the TV
show was telling this story. But yeah, it's like essentially, yeah,
John snow coming back hasn't happened in the books yet,
and yeah, you go pretty it's just like, huh no,

(23:30):
it feels like TV now exactly. It started feeling like
a TNT TV show where the big thing happens at
the end of every episode and it brings Yeah, the
writers just kind of like fuck this.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, I feel like Benniot and White's got exposed pretty
quickly because now because what they did three body problems,
didn't they and.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That they did Yeah, yeah, it kind of a bit
of a miss. Yeah, I would watch more of I
stuck with it through the end because they were like
crunching everything down into you know, a couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Sure, yeah, it wasn't great. It's like, you know, a
trip that might take a character a whole season started
taking them like, you know, two scenes to get to
something places across the side of the run back. It
just got so lazy, and you know, so Devin validated.
I wanted to hate on this take, but.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, I will say like the the highs were really
high in those first few seasons, Like the Red Wedding
I think is a is a great yea TV.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Those first four seasons were actually gold I think yeaheah.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's sort of like what Lost is.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Like.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I didn't watch Lost when it came out, and I
was like, well, this shit is stupid, and then I
got sick in one day and I had like this
is back in the era of DVDs, and I had
like all the DVDs lying around. So I watched it
and I was like, Yo, this ship is fucking crazy,
and then I love. Then it got worse and then
I was like, man, this ship fucking sucks. So it's
like I feel like I had the same experience with
Game of Thrones, like where I was. I was late
to it the first season. I was like, Bro, how

(24:54):
the fuck do you want me to keep all these
names streets like crazy, and as I got in the
first city, yeah, exactly. As someone who kind of tries
to like relate things in an academic way, I was like,
I cannot make sense of anything right now. Then it
got like two point. There were some highs, and then
they turned into manfuck this show.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, so lost.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I was out on at the first episode of the
second season where it was or the second episode of
the second season where they did the first episode again
just from someone else's perspective, Yeah, I was like, Oh,
they don't actually know the answers to the questions. They're
not going to tell me why the polar Bear. They're
just like killing time right now. Yeah, And I think
I got out on that one too soon, because I

(25:34):
think there were like some good seasons, but if they
didn't know what the fuck was happening.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, you want, you want at least pennies?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Boat man, it what's something? He thinks? Over it? Over
any We're gonna stay in this entertainment lane. And I
feel bad about this one, but I think the movie
Weapons was kind of overrated. Wow, And for this take.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I've been I've been waiting for you.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
It's like, this take is about Weapons, but I think
really it's about the kind of brand of horror film
that it is, like, really wants to tell you some
kind of social commentary. And I think a lot of
times that I just kind of roll my eyes during them.
I don't know, I feel like this one. This one
was also a victim of social media hype, like everyone

(26:19):
was pretending like everyone was online just being like Wow,
best movie ever, And so I went into it with
that expectation. So probably I wouldn't feel this feel this much,
feel this way if it weren't for all the hypes
surrounding it. But yeah, it's gonna be Weapons for me.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I feel about Weapons the way like we were just
talking about the Chair Company. Oh yeah, and yeah, how
like there's a take that one of our listeners shared
with me on Reddit that like, people like it's being
presented as a comedy and it's actually a psychological horror, which,
like I think some of the episodes, like some of
the moments, for sure, that seems to be the overwhelming

(26:54):
experience of it. I feel like Weapons is the opposite
where it was just like a comedy, like it was like, yeah,
it was fun. Yeah, I thought it was so like
silly and.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
There were some absurd Yeah, there are some absurd moments. Yeah.
And to be clear, like to the question of if
it's if it's overrated, doesn't mean it was bad, Like
I felt, I liked the movie. Yeah, I just came
out of it being like I don't if everyone else
seemed to have seen something else.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it was a bleast.
But yeah, I see what you're saying. It was not
what I thought it was based on the hype.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
The hype was I was like, uh oh, we got
like we got a new level, and it was like, no,
it's like a really well executed, good fun movie.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
At at best those movies are great like popcorn flick
entertainment where you you know you obviously it does have
a message and it's cool to think about. But like
people are just pretending like it was going to change
gun laws in America. I'm like, we all need to
calm down. This is a this is a you know,
still a movie and most standard holly flair. Yeah, was

(27:59):
there a gun messaging in there?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
There was that part in the dream. It's not it's
not even like it's for a dumb person. You wouldn't
even know that it was about guns.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
All yeah, it was like it basically what I took
to be the premise was like, all right, a classroom
of kids disappears all of a sudden, right, so there's
like a mass shooting and analogous to a mass shooting.
And then yeah, in the dream, the I don't even
know if it was an AR fifteen that was flowing
spot love the house, but some Yeah, at that point

(28:29):
at the movie, I enjoyed the movie, but I started
to roll my eyes.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I was wondering if that's where you like sprained the
chords behind your eyeballs, because that part was a little
bit I didn't quite know. But yeah, yeah, all right,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk
about the news. You guys heard about the news, You've
seen that stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
No, what is that?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Oh you're about to find out.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's really fun, really fun, similar to weapons, super fun.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And we're back.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
And so the Kennedy Center has been taken over by
Donald Trump and that that was kind of the last
I had heard in terms of the mainstream media. And
like what has broken through is that he was taken over.
He fired everybody. There was some speculation that it was
just gonna be cats every night for like seven years
in a row.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
But what's what's happening over there? What's the lame?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
So like Rick Grennell took over.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
He's you know, Renell Great, Pick Great.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
One of these like mag just hangers on from the
last administration who's like been so loyal to Donald Trump,
like has really not that much power, like in the
grand scheme of things. He was angling for Secretary of
State and then he was They're like here, take this,
and he's like, yeah, okay, okay, okay, I guess I'll
take this. But yeah, the Kennedy Center has been doing
terribly since the takeover, and people just you know, rightfully,

(30:02):
they don't want to visit like that den of iniquity
to take in some art anymore. They just they're like,
this place is completely lost it. They're going against all
their values of like artistic expression just general human rights.
So there have been a lot of there's been a
lot of talks. So last month the Washington Post said
only about forty three percent of tickets remain unsold for

(30:24):
like a ret normal production, So that's not great, great
for packing out of house. And then also they've speculated
that they're probably giving away a ton of comped tickets
just to get the optics to look like people have
not completely turned their backs on the Kennedy Center because
of Donald Trump and this administration. But again, this is
not great. But this is all also another reason for grifters,

(30:48):
like the people in the administration to figure out how
to get some kind of money flowing through the building.
And in true magna fashion, they are just basically selling
donors the opportunity to fucking conduct the National Symphony, just
just a fucking just for fun, like you can do
the National anthem. So they posted this video, uh, like

(31:10):
promoting this new program and I'll just say this on
like when this was unveiled, the Symphony was like we
have a special guest becoming a special conductor that like
they were teasing this out for this performance and a
lot of people were like, oh my god, is it
gonna be like someone like you knows from l a

(31:31):
uh yeah yeah yeah, or before that as we used
to have there was there's anyway for the.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Victor webbingmaar.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
This at this is tar but like this is how
they dropped it on people. Again. They were like, we
got a special person in the house, ladies and gentlemen.
Tonight we launched the first many guest.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Conductors packed out our national anthem to benefit the national
Actually and he's welcome, Ambassador Richard Crenell.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Okay, now he's just moving a baton, just moving that
ship that anyone who knows music that is not proper
baton use.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Wait what.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And okay, I would have let them hold that for
a little bit longer. I would have brought them up
to a fortisimo. So then it just says Kennedy Center
be a guest conductor. Guest conductor at Kennedycenter dot org.
So they are. You can pay money now if you
give the Kennedy Center money, you can wave a baton
completely incoherently and conduct and fucking National Symphony.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, unfortunately, this is more evidence to dumb people who think,
like the conductors don't do anything. But some people think
the conductors go up there and just vibe out yea,
and you know, I don't know, it's obviously not true.
But if Richard Grennell's going up there and just like
doing kind of these weird thumbs up motions, yeah, it
did look like he was repeatedly giving everyone a thumbs up.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I wonder if they even told him. They're like, because
he was moving the baton like this was in one,
you know, like that was yeah, like this is yeah,
you know, there's not he's not hitting four, you know,
like a proper anyway. As a band geek, somebody used
to play in an orchestra, This like really pissed me off,
because to be a conductor isn't a fucking that's a life,
lifetime of work to ascend to that kind of position

(33:34):
inside of like like symphonic music. And they just have
some dickhead go up there who's like a maga freak
just wave it around. A lot of people are like,
I'm surprised the symphony even like abided by this. But
also we're living in the era where I'm sure if
somebody protested, they were like, there goes your salary being
in this.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, well a question for you, Miles, as a former
band member, then if you, you know, if if you
were in the band and someone like Rick Renell came
up to conduct, what is the practical effect of that,
like for you and your bandmates to not have a conductor?
You know, how do you hit your.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You're gonna like everything. You probably you've played it enough
that you know the tempo, so at that point you're
not looking at that asshole to keep any sense of
the time. You're just like closing, You're just playing it.
You already know as a symphony, you know how to
stay in time together, and you're just playing it. So
this guy can pretend and he's like doing or though
like just hitting the syllables.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, he wasn't doing that.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Like he wasn't doing he was a fake version of Yeah.
Like I feel like if you put like we're talking
about this in the context of like make a wish kids,
like make a wish billionaires, I feel like a make
a wish kid would have done a better job. Oh yeah,
because at least if that was their wish, they would
have watched enough that they would watch a Shonado who

(34:48):
had like watched it. He looked like he didn't. I
mean he he honestly looked like he got up there
and froze, like he was real tight with like he
knew he was an asshole just for being up there.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
He's like, yes, as he.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Got up and was like, man, you know what he's like,
My haters are correct. This is a bit of a
ridiculous haters. Yeah, real bad.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
But it's funny because again, he's also deeply insecure about
the fact that he is running the Kennedy Center and
it's so out of his depth because he has nothing
to do with music or performing arts that he just
keeps telling this anecdote about how his husband kind of
danced on Broadway before nine to eleven. Wow. Quote. He
would bring up his this is someone just talking about
like a Kennedy Center dance director said. Quote.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
He would bring up.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
His husband as a way to be like, well, I
know a lot about dance because I fell in love
with a dancer. Grinelle has also been quoted saying he
wants the center's program to be more like Paula Abdul.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
He wants the programming to be more like Paula.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Can we get an animated cat to dance more?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
And it feels like a direct Trump quote, like that's
what Trump wrote in an email to him, and he
just repeated it back to it should be more like
Paula Abduel. Okay, yes, yes, yes, wait does she Muslim
would an instinctual aversion to Abdul's name? Yeah, at the
very least, Well, I.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Can't even fucking figure out what that means with this,
Like does he mean the early paul Abdul videos? I mean,
she's a great answer, great choreographer, my first crush.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I mean also him like a gen X dude who
like who like thought the height of performance art culture
was the straight up video, maybe.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
The cold hearted snake video.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You know it would be yeah, exactly sorry, or you know,
you know, vibology, whatever you like. There's there's many to
choose from, but I feel it also does feel like
such a washed thing from a guy who has no
idea about the performing arts scene and he just goes
my favorite artist was that, Well, there was that one
girl who danced like Paul Abdul. Yeah, you're a how
about that? They're like, dude, we have this like experimental

(37:03):
modern dancer from like Germany that could do it for
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, I mean there's a silver lining into some of
these appointments where it's like, were these presidential appointments where
it's like Rick Renell clearly wanted to be Secretary of
State or like ambassador to Germany or whatever. Yeah, and
this is probably seen as like he's like, oh, what
the hell is this? This is not what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Hey, at least you get to be a you know,
maga celebrity for another few years, which is what most
people wanted. End of the day. So wave away.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I just found out the cold Hearted Snake video was
nineteen eighty eight, So I was seven or eight when
that came out.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
That's I was. I was, so, yeah, this is likely,
And well I'm.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Just realizing, like I was really horny at age like seven.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, and that's fucked up because my kids are seven
and nine, just.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like, yo, are they doing?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Are they here cold Hearted Snake playing in the other room?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Off? Who's the modern day Paul Abduel?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
For?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Your kids that who would be like take me or somebody?
Probably yeah they we we are a big Tate McCrae household.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I mean the thing is they don't like watch a
lot of TV, so I don't know what it would be.
But we we live loose house by the way. No dancing,
no any okay, no music no. I yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I love that realization just had as a father.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
You're like, I know, I was like, sorry, I wasn't
working through something crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Should we pause?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I do want to talk about Bill Ackman though, but
put this in the broader context of just where we're at,
because this is a you know, famous billionaire asshole mega
guy who paid his way onto a professional tennis tour
and like again very insecure about it, Like was like actually,

(38:59):
like we played well and we would have like done better,
Like he had like excuses for like why him and
like a top ten player got destroyed. Andy Roddick, the
former tennis player who now has a tennis podcast, called
the match a quote total miss, pathetic, hard to watch,
and the biggest joke I've watched him professional tennis, oh jeesuz,

(39:21):
But knowing uh how America works, he followed that statement
up by being like, and it's not even ackman.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I mean Ackman, you know did.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Great out there, and you know what it's like, uh huh,
but I couldn't commit.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Just just sort of.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
A rolling Emperor's New Clothes tour of billionaires who.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Like playing like a doubles match or he was playing.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, he played a doubles match and the guy he
played was Jack Sock, who used to be like a
top ten player, the guy that was his partner, and
then they just like.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You, just trying to see got their ass kicked? Where
is he? Is that him in the front, all buddy.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I can't tell the difference. Is that him in the front?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I think that's him in the front. Yeah, the white
hat now seem on the other side of the net. Oh,
this guy is such a fucking LARPer dude. He's just
like bouncing on his toes like he's gonna do ship.
You've got in your partner's way, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, he just keeps running into his partner.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
The weird thing was like the Day's long excuse making
on on on X, where it's like, you know, we
don't need to know the excuses. You're old and out
of shape and you shouldn't be here, Like, actually, it
makes a lot of sense that you got your ass kicks.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I started with a new trainer, so opposed to a match.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Obviously, he has not taken a breath of air outside
of his ecosystem of like yes men and like people
who he pays and so and everybody's like trying to
get money from them, and like they're they're just like
this new model of just billionaires. Like as people are

(40:57):
getting more and more disillusion with his administration and the
inability to pay for food, like the fact that they're
choosing this opportunity to be like and now we're doing
make a wish things for billionaires in front of in
front of crowds that you all get to watch.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Make a mockery of the thing that you love. Is
that what you want?

Speaker 7 (41:18):
Yeah, to go to the Kennedy Center. It's like, you
can't do this here mannis.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Tournament, the tennis tournament, Like that was those thing people
who came to watch a tennis tournament.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
So that was Yeah. Bill Ackman was just doing what
Joe Rogan did with the Austin comedy scene, where he's like, well,
I can escape the real comedy scene and create my
fake bubble world where I'm good and I'll live here
instead and avoid reality.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, they're gonna give up on the like you know,
no drug testing Olympics and just do like billionaire Olympics
where they like race each other.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
And you know how many torn calves are gonna happen.
They're all going to just do their calves in. I
already know. I've seen it one hundred times.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I mean Trump kind of had a similar incident on Sunday.
He went to the like it was the first sitting
president to go to a regular season NFL.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, and he.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Like read for two minutes. First of all, it's like
always hard to tell because an NFL crowd is never
going to be like one percent, fuck you man, but
it was pretty heavily. It was it was hard to notice,
hard not to notice, and like they were they went
live on Fox News and it was like, but the

(42:34):
wild thing is like the on the out of touch thing.
He thought he was going to get a like call
and response level like reaction from the crowd. The format
was he reads and then they repeat like the oath
of like being an American and loving the President and shit.
And I think he was assuming he'd get up there,

(42:56):
like I don't think reality is reaching these people. I
think he thought he was going to get up there,
like Kendrick putting up the mic and everyone's saying a
minor like and it was just like.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
That's that's big.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
That is yes, please raise it. Right there flicking were.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
The men.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
He thought they were going to repeat after him. He
thought it was gonna be like you know your name. Yeah,
it's really it's like, what what makes it more noticeable
is that it is an NFL game, so you have
to think like there's probably a really good amount of
conservatives there. Yeah, that's like minus you know, you're you're

(43:50):
getting that you're like enemy territory now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I mean we were talking last week like we we don't,
you know, pay too much attention to polling, but like,
if you're using polling as a yardstick, his approval rating
is lower than it was the day after January sixth
and the like, and that was the lowest it's ever been.
And the way he was able to bounce back from
that was by not being the presidents.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Of all social media.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah right, and he's still like it's hard for me
to believe he's less than a year into his first
year in offense, Like yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Long next seven years, right, I just like.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
A friendly crowd.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
If I was rooting for billionaires, I'd be pretty nervous
right now, Like I feel like the'm like we're not
making good decisions. Guys like that guy who owns Cardier,
Remember Miles we talked about, Like, oh yeah, there's this
guy who's like the owner of Cardia and he's the
only billionaire seems to be Like, guys, I can't sleep
at night, like they're going to fucking eat us. Are

(44:57):
so mad? Now, Like yeah, yeah, it's he must be
sleeping like absolute ship right now.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Well he's he's probably got his bunker set up like
they all, oh.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's a bunch of mouse traps.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I mean that's just be like a movement of trades
people to know, like every every plub should know how
to sabotage a billionaire bunk like a bunker, to be
like where's the exhaust event? Okay, this is what you're
gonna do. Okay, Like this is how you're gonna get
him out, because that's that's the one thing they still
rely on working people to even create their doomsday bunkers

(45:31):
that I just hope that those electricians and ventilation people
have built in some kind of like fail safe.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Thing to be like the Death Star. Yeah, the engine
it's built in.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It's really as safe as I wanted it. I want
it to be. You know what I mean, you don't
know shit they're.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, and if you want to know how they feel
about you and your role in their apocalypse bump bunker.
There's an incredible interview with somebody who like is a
Silicon Valley one hundred millionaires, so he's like, you know,
a bit of a trader. I think who he was, like, Yeah,
when you have these conversations with people, they talk about

(46:07):
how or maybe it was a journalist.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I no, Yeah, it was Douglas Rushkoff, who we had
on the show, right, the guy who wrote.

Speaker 8 (46:15):
Because I know he talked about them being he was
talking about how they all are trying to figure out
how you kill how you kill your workers and the
doomsday bunkers. Yeah, like you tell about the doomsday bunker
and like how do you, like, how do you protect
your family from the workers, never considering the possibility that
you would just like let them survive with their families.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
And then there's another guy who was like in a
bunch of these meetings with doomsday prepper billionaires in Silicon
Valley who was like, they're all like one of their
favorite questions is do you shoot the pilot, like the
you need a pilot to fly you to your island?
Do you shoot them before? Yeah, like after they land

(47:00):
and you got to kill them otherwise they're going to
go get and they're going to want to come in.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
And Paradise season one show it's in this exact scenario.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah, yeah, I think they That is the question on
the mind. Brilli.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
It's good, it's good, recommend I have.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
To check it out.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
All right, we're going to take a quick break to
all watch the first season of Paradise. We'll be back
to talk about some pardons, and we're back. We're back,

(47:42):
And so the Department of Justice's Pardon Attorney Ed Martin
just announced a list of pardons in the most appropriate
and legally scrupulous way possible, just posting a list on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, with a great handle too at Eagle Ed Martin.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, that's not like from before he was he's still
Eagle Ed Martin. Yeah, it's both his Twitter you know
at and his like.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Official plain name. Yeah. When you just go by Ed
Martin like, huh shit, I should probably clean this up
since I work for the Department of Justice. But everything's
a joke. Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
CBE radio guy. Right, you got Eagle Ed Martin coming
to you live.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Just got seventy seven. People basically been like, all right,
y'all are good. Uh, nothing to see here outside of
your terribly violent and or illegal acts in the build
up to January sixth, But yeah, all good.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Were there any big names on there? Any names we recognize?

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I mean Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell I think are
the biggest ones, you know because Mark Meadows. Yeah, they
went hard, they went real hard.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
But people were like blatantly being like, how do we
cheat on the selection?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah? Get Donald Trump to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
How to skullfuck it when they certify question mark? Uh
skull emoji. One person that was on this list too
is a guy named Andrew take who's he pleaded guilty
to soliciting what he thought was a fifteen year old
girl for sex. It was an undercover cop, and The
Daily Beast was reporting that Basically, he can dodge the

(49:25):
prison time for the sex offense because of the prison
time credit he accrued after attacking a police officer on
January sixth, So he's skating on these like sex prime
charges because of like the way this pardon is worded.
And a lot of people are like, this is very
rare and also highly problematic because he pled guilty to

(49:49):
this shit.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of people kind of
kind of joke saying that this administration is the administration
of like sex offenders. But it's like hard, it's like
hard to argue against that when these kinds of like
pardons are happening. It's so literally someone who's found guilty
or pleaded guilty to doing this and it's getting pardoned. Why,

(50:10):
like because he was part of January sixth, Is that right?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah? But sorry, yeah what else?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
God already grounded me.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
I was in there for fucking three years, God for
doing different. I beat a cop with a fucking steel
pull a bear may stem, and I fucking solicit is
what I thought was a child first?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh my god, I mean anything.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Nowadays, you guys are being weird. You guys are being weird, right,
pretty Juliani too, like pretty much ruined those poor women's
lives and was it Georgia. Yeah, he just like kind
of like harassed them for one couple of years.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's lost his license to practice law.
I mean, not that he was ever good on it,
but I mean now he just had to figure out.
I'm sure they got to now figure out how they're
going to get him the money to be able to
pay off his you know, legal fees and Ship.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, he keeps his mouth shut. You know, that was
one of my most one of my saddest blocks on Twitter,
I've been blocked by Rudy Gilianic. Oh, I'm sorry. He like,
that's terrible a person. He is, Like those tweets were
so funny. I'm just sad to miss I'm sad to
not see them anymore.

Speaker 7 (51:22):
Yeah, well, Elon's new block system, you should be able
to see him now. Listen to Oh you can see people.
You remember this is my kid cutting thing, kid cutting out?
Oh kid cut you. But you can suddenly see his tweets.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I can see his tweets. I just can't interact with
him at all. What did he block you for? I
talked Ship about one of those very bad run of albums,
and he thought.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
Yeah, yeah it was you know, that was like.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
It was it was me. It was like, yeah, he was.
He was tweeting. He was tweeting about like his lists
of his kind of list of accomplishments or something, and
then Devine Devin responded with like that meme of Ken
Jong with the tiny piece of paper, and he's like, oh, listen, it.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Was about the influence of that particular album. All right.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
You know, I've defend on a.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Lot of things, which Abu. I forget which one it
was now I think it was.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
It was the one before.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Pain.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
What's the one where he's like a demon slayer or
something like that. Yeah, he was the one before that.
It was like kind of a rock album or like alternatives.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, I mean indic cut. I remember it was starting
to wobble for me. I was like Passion, Pain and
Demon Slayings. Yeah whatever the album was, Yeah, oh, seminal album.
Seminal album. I mean yeah, we decided to do this
podcast off the strength of that album. I remember.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Realized I too have a lot to say. But that's
that's kind of weird that you can now see like
so yeah, block someone, it just makes them invisible to you.
It's like, here, let me give you the ring of
power essentially. Yeah, I mean, it's just what I want
the perverts block to be able to do, is like

(53:12):
to just peer at me without me knowing they're there.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
They're interacting, right, yeah, great, oh awesome. No, Well, speaking
of perverts, Glaine Maxwell Lane, there's a there's a whistleblower
I think that works within the Bureau of Prisons that
reached out to Democrats and the Judiciary Committee that They're like, uh,
just so you know, everything I'm hearing from here is

(53:36):
that Gleainne Maxwell is about to ask for her sentence
to be commuted so she can get the fuck out
of here, honey. Uh. And so the Democrats wrote a
letter to the White House being like, uh, what the
fuck is going on? What are we hearing? It says
in a letter of Trump, Democrat members of the House
Judiciary Committee assert Maxwell is preparing an application that will
be quote undoubtedly coming to you for your direct consideration,

(53:58):
and that quote the warden her he is directly helping
miss Maxwell copy, print, and send documents related to this.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
The warden is handle hold.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Warden does yeah, we're's out there to help there to
take away music.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And I get it.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I get it, man. But so again, she's serving a
twenty year sentence at a minimum security facility in Texas
because she did a quid pro quo with the Department
of Justice where she's like, I never saw Donald Trump
do all those things I saw him do and was
a party to absolutely, Okay, for the record, I never
saw him do anything of the stuff that I saw

(54:38):
him do. That's just full stop. Can I go to
Martha Stewart prison now? And they did. The letter alleges
that she is either directly asking Trump to quote release
her from her twenty year prison sentence, or that she
quote holds such tremendous sway in the second Trump administration
that you and your DOJ will follow her clemency recommendations.

(54:59):
I think it's that at one. Yeah, I think I
had to get one. And again this letter. She's also
getting all kinds of special treatment because we said she's
already in this cushy prison. She somehow has, like she
described herself in emails to family members, that her new
setup has her feeling like quote Alice in Wonderland. Wow,

(55:21):
and you're like you're hold on, bro, I don't know,
don't last I check. You're not getting emails from people
that are locked out.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Especially ones bragging about how sick it is?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, I mean, is she being like we're through the
rabbit hole, like through the looking glass type shit, or
she's just like, I feel like I'm at the tea party.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
It's so fun, like.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I think, so they go to the drugs to The
letter also goes on to say, quote that federal law
enforcement staff working at the camp have been waiting on
Miss Maxwell hand and foot. Her visitors were allowed to
bring computers, which is an unprecedented action by the ward
and given the security risk and potential for Miss Max
to use a computer to conduct conduct unmonitored communications with

(56:04):
the outside world, that's kind of like a thing that happens.
There's even more in the whistleblower, an inmate who trains
puppies to be to become service dogs, was instructed to
give one of the puppies to Gillaine Maxwell to play with.
Sore like that you get not being given a prison job.
She's being given the fruits a literal puppy. Okay, Then

(56:29):
the whistleblwer told House Democrats that quote, the sex offenders
meals have been customized and prepared by Federal prison camp
employees and then personally delivered to her in her cell.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Damn. She also sounds like room service.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Also purportedly given a special cordoned off area for visitors
as well as snacks and refreshments for her guests. Permission
to go to the exercise room. Yeah right, exactly, permission
to go to the exercise area after hours, and special
provisions to contact people outside the jail with the help
of the prison warden.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
All right, this feel, I mean, it is kind of
what you would expect from the shaw Shame prison warden.
It's also like, I don't know, every prison show movie
that you see, this is the sort of thing that
people are watching from their cells, like, you know, not
Oh wow, she really this sex offender thinks that she's

(57:21):
better than us.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Well, first of all, can't even be in this low
security prison due to the nature of her crimes. And
also even if she were, due to the nature of
her crimes, would not be able to even work with
the puppies. That's a privilege that they give for good behavior.
But meanwhile you're just be like, hey, man, go run
one of your puppies over to fucking Gallamee Maxwell, like.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Like, what does it mean to be punished for a
crime anymore? Like like, this is one of the gravest
violations you can imagine if you sit and and your
first of all, you're at a minimum security prison. You
should be like under the jail, as kids are saying,
you should be. We should not be getting eye messages
from you. We should not be should not be hitting

(58:05):
us up on side dot com right, Like, Yo, I
texted her and my ship went blue. She got a.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Hold on she's editing the text. She must have the
new io lesson everything. Yeah, right, she should be frozen
in fucking carbonite. Okay, that's where she should be at.
But meanwhile they're they're just giving this crazy treatment. And
I think considering that if this shutdown does end, that
means the House will have to go back into session,

(58:35):
they're going to have to swear in Adelita Grijalva if
they don't get this other Republican in time to try
and negate her vote, because that's also a possibility ye
wait till December. Yeah that maybe they're like, well, fuck man,
if this shit comes out, like we just better to
get glean out now, so then we could put her
in carbonite, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Mean when you see how she was being treated at
that other prison where they were like, you give us
all your wrong you give us all yeah, all your
budget and the prison. Yes, and then she's like gone
to this and like a true modern American success story
in the she just used corruption to like pull herself

(59:17):
up by the bootstraps of people in power, just.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Like Lewis Carroll had just dreamed of with his brain.
Al me.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Well, Manny Devin, such a pleasure having you on the
Daily Zeitch. Yeah, where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Follow you? Hear you all that good stuff? Yeah, so
our show no such thing. You can find us at
no such thing dot show. I am at Manny Fidel
on every social media platform.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
I'm at Devin J. Joseph on every social media platform.
And the show is no such thing. Search, no such
thing wherever we listen about guests.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
It's very good show. People should check it out.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Is there a work of media you guys have been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
The new Rosalia album is really good?

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Oh it is.

Speaker 7 (01:00:03):
Had not listened to it. It's like a movie. It's crazy.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Oh didn't she perform to have some wild performance last week?
And people? Yeah, crosses, I don't even know where it was.

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
It's insane. She speaks thirteen languages on the album, not
that I listened to the lyrics anyway, but she put
a lot of work into it and it shows. It's
really good. I would recommended Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
And I am reading a book called Tomorrow, Tomorrow Tomorrow.
I'm not sure if you have heard of it. It's
kind of popular now. It feels rife for you know,
Hollywood material at some point. Yeah. It's a book about
these two video game creators in the nineties who have
like a complicated relationship. So it's really fun. Oh, Nice
sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Miles, where can people find you as their work media
you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me
on the streets of New York wearing a jacket, which
I'm so excited for. I keep talking about going to
New York because it's gonna be fifty degrees and that's
all I want. It's eighty six in La fucking all
of that shit full sweat weather right now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I tried wearing a hoodie over the weekend and I
humiliated myself.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Cold weather I do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
It's crazy, bro and it's I'm still waiting. I need
somebody like in the northern territories of Canada to be like, Yo,
come on up here, broke six days up here, hallucinated
at the top of the world. I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Also catch me you're talking about ninety dance on four
to twenty day fiance. A work of media I like
is actually a YouTube video because with this Rick Grinnell thing,
it got me thinking about Gustavo Dudamel, who we have
a fantastic conductor of the La Philharmonic. Uh. There's a
video of him just showing truly, like the fuck, like

(01:01:51):
what it takes to be a conductor, like to understand
the sheet music, to understand what a like a composer
is trying to communicate through the just the performance of
a symphony. And this is him talking about Felix Mendelssohn's
Symphony Number three. But this is just a quick thing.
I only play a couple of seconds after. The whole
video is interesting because you watch him drill them on
this such a specific thing and then it turns into

(01:02:12):
like the full performance they not.

Speaker 9 (01:02:19):
Okay, somebody have to walk with that, you know, I
have to leave some people walking out, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Anyway, it's a great moments. It's just one of those
things where you really understand it's not just waving of
a time like you were. You were working with very
talented performers and getting them all on the same page.
To like, this whole thing is just like that first
note has to fucking blow the two pays off in
the front row.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
No, myles, all you have to do is put a
little thumbs up. That's It's like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Al Gore greeting a crap. Let's see work media I've
been enjoying. I like to damn, I like to dang.
Tweet old fashioned tweet forgetting to do breath work on Twitter,
tweeted yes iOS, allow Papa John's to always use my location.

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Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
That we talked about in today's episode. We also link
off to a song that we think that people might enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Miles, is there a song that you think they might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, I was just thinking about this, so your guys
show is no such thing. I was thinking of the
La producer No Side thing, h yes, and I was like, wait,
this is a good time to go out on this
track find no such thing. Who I haven't really I
used to go see him oh Man low in Theory
and ship like that back in the day. But this
is a track with him and Kazumakino from Blonde Redhead

(01:04:10):
called My Soul or Something and it's just a really
great you know, her voice, his production, a really good
amm break being flipped on it. So this is my
Soul or something by No Sage Thing. It's the name
Jason Backwards and Kazu ship.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Dude. Yeah, dude, Jason Backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
That's how we used to do this. I figured it out, bro.

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