Fox News Cancels Christmas, Fake Oppression Please! 11.21.25

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
How's the weather.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's actually nice today, but it's been I mean it's
it's it's a sad time, true, a good time in
our climate, but it's.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right today. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I see that.
Yeah bird right now? Yeah yeah yeah you're back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Fucking freezing.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah. It's fucking fucking reason we.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Ask her, because we're fucking barely surviving out here. I
feel like a damn olaf For sixty one degrees there's
rain expected. It's fifty eight by me, miles, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
One of the signs of the rapture.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'd say, yeah, my fingers break off.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
All right, fun news day.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Fun newsday. Yeah yeah, there's just some weird shit. Okay.
We love a hoax, so I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Jokeses are great, yep, yeah not really yeah great.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
A loafer, Hey, I really want those Hokah loafers, though,
fucking hok a loafer. That is like the most I
feel like east Side l a shoe you could wear
is a Hokah loafer, Like it screams fuck boy. Yeah,
but I'm a fuck man.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You heard it here for.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's what I'm doing. I'm a man. You weren't even
alive to see Michael Keaton be Batman.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Do you know about a boy? No? No, no, no?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Fuck man? Look what's that song? Oh so you don't know?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Adam? What?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Hello thet and welcome to season four to fifteen, Episode
five of.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
DIR Daily Zai.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Guys, it's a production of iHeartRadio's the podcast where you
take a deep dive into america shared consciousness. And it's Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's Friday. Yeah, November twenty first, twenty twenty five, TGIF.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Thank fuck It's Friday. Wait, TFF, thank fuck it's Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh, thank god? Tis Yeah. That was the first first
draft for the ABC sitcom block T fIF think fuck
it's Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We do things a little bit differently here at Tfif
you're gonna want to buckle up for this, it's actually
National Gingerbread Cookie Day. All fucking National stuffing Day. One
of my favorite things on a fucking holiday plate is
the stuffing. Okay, so I like that. Also, Substitute Educators Day.

(02:54):
Shout out to substitute teachers. What a fucking hard job
you have. It is hard enough to be a teacher.
I can't imagine it's like this a substitut teacher, although
I did take the sea Best test to be certified
to do substitute teaching because the economy, like I got
out of, the economy crashed right after I graduated in
two thousand and seven, and I'm like, I guess I'll
be a substitute on call for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
And yeah, it didn't work. Did you ever get did
you ever get called up? No? No, no, because I
ended up getting a job at.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
A T shirt store much better, much better where my
paychecks bounced.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
So it was it a T shirt store like with
just standard screenprint.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
No no, no, no no. We did heat transfers there
so you would come if this was like such a
bad business idea to launch in the year of our
Lord two thousand and seven, okay, when the fucking everything's
going to shit economically, it was a T shirt store.
You come in. This woman who owned the store a
bout like six of like this is like the time
when the new iMac came out. There like flat screens,

(03:55):
mounted them to a wall, and you could go pick
a design, you bring up your order, and then I
would heat press the shirts like whatever dumb shit you
wanted with whatever we had blanks, and we had graphics,
and you could combine any of them in an unholy
marriage and I would make them. But really what happened
was we were on Beverly where a lot of the
Orthodox Jewish people are, and most of the kids came

(04:16):
in to use our computers to look at shit they
couldn't look at at home. Wow, So we really have customers.
I was running like an after school program for kids
who want to look at the Internet. That's about it anyway,
much at paycheck spouts anyway, Shout out subs to.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Teachers, Shout out subs to tea true. Speaking of TFIF,
Monday morning, we got the second Icon episode. There's a
new TDZ episode format that were dropping every Monday morning. Yeah,
first thing you'll you'll have a TDZ episode on Monday morning.
But it is a new format where we dig into
a different icon each time. Episode one dropped this past Monday.

(04:50):
About Einstein, episode two coming. A little character you might
know from TFIF by the name of Steve.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Verkle Damn.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Is a fun one. All right, My name's Jack O'Brien.
Akay birds off fuck with rain. Yeah, yeah, that one
courtesy IF, Snarfula and Millie Vanilli and the people who
wrote and sang Millie Vanilli's music instead of them, and
our conversation where we as people who who are just

(05:21):
experiencing rain for the first time in LA, like, what
what is this? Notice that birds don't all fly away?
Not to get a holden call field on you, but
if you ever wonder where did the birds go during
the rain, They just tough it out. Man, They're still
out there singing.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
In full full see.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Them again on the wire right now. It's about don't
they fucking read the news. It's about your fly away.
I don't know, man, these birds might be on off
the like of fentanyl or something like. They don't know
what the fuck's going on.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's probably if I had to guess. I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host mister Miles.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Miles Gray and gave the Lord of Lancasham the showgun
with no gun akaa.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I like sig butts and I cannot lie shout.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Out to Sir Roses up the river as we were
asking the first cigarettes we had. Mine was a butt
that was left in an ashtray, which I feel is
most I.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Don't know, not in a public ashtray, though, Yeah, yeah,
I have. Look, I'm half Japanese.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Everybody's what in the eighties and nineties, everybody was smoking
in Japan around children, So yeah, I dabbled.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
My grandma smoked. But she was also the relative I
had that was most likely to kick my ass.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
You say she was like a tough motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh yeah, man. She raised eight children in inner city Philadelphia,
like on her fifties. Yeah, yeah, no, no fucking, no
messing around. She did not care for me like Lucille
Blue like that. I don't care for Jack.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
one of our favorite guests on TDZ, a poet and
podcaster you can hear on the American Hysteria podcast exploring
the fantastical thinking and irrational fears of Americans through the
lens of moral panics, urban legends, conspiracy theories. Please welcome
the brilliant, the talented Chelsea Webbers.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I am reminded by your cigarette comments about the sheer
joy of going into a Denny's smoking section as a
tea That was freedom, baby. I was always like, they're
not going to check my ID.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh, I'm just gonna let me smoke. You're like, then,
fucking pulp fiction.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That was like your your flex. You're like, let's go
smoke at the fucking Denny's some.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Pancakes and make them taste like shit.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
To make sure I can't taste them. Yeah, what cigarette?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
What was your starter pack?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I know I can't remember because it was like people
stealing them from their parents.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
But I know a bag.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Of different cigarettes, different lengths, lucy, all kinds of just
truly lucy.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, you just put like a quarter in one of
those machines and a cigarette comes out in those plastic bubbles. No,
but it was Marlborough Mediums. That was my I just
went real hard. I guess that was. That was my
cigarette of choice for a while, like a.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Marlboro Light, like a mar light, because a medium is
still the red pack, right, I don't know, I don't
know if you brooked some size school.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Marlborough red pack is one of the design feats of
capital like that. That's a beautiful worker. Yeah, it looks
great box. It's such a good box. And also the
cigarette machines that that were at the back of the
Applebe's where we all hung out of the high school,
and there was the like they have the thing that

(08:57):
you like pull out that is the same thing that
you pull on aoball machine, pinball machine. Yeah yeah, yeah,
it's like I like that. They were just like this
company we're gonna get We're gonna get pool arms from them,
whether it's a pinball machine or cigarette.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
My mom to let me buy her cigarettes so I
could do that in the machine. Yeah. And then in
Japan it was like digital, so like I would I
would just beg to press the button on the vending
machine all the time. My futuristic in Japan did she like, well,
then they have a fucking thing. Then it got to
the point where you had to tap your id to
release the fucking cigarettes. That was like in two thousand

(09:32):
and like four, I.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Don't even have that technology.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
No, no, because that's how they prevented kids from just
buying cigarettes just out in the open from because you dude,
when I was fucking thirteen, trust me, I was loading
up like the streak when you were in Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I could buy a can or two.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Maybe I'm back smuggling cigarettes were you were you bringing
them back for the fuck yeah population.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
There was just one brand called JOHNP Player Specials Player Specials,
and I was like, this is the most baller saying like, Yo,
this is a John Player special that sounds like a
Philadelphia or something.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right, All right, well, Chelsea, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things
we're talking about. We're going to talk about a hoax
appropriately enough. Yes, Natalie Green twenty six, a Rutger law student,
had to appear in federal court where she it was
the details of this case just trying to make herself

(10:31):
into a victim of a mega attack, like being attacked
for being more mega Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, not like a Jesse Smollett version, right, no, non
inverse inverse.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
So we're going to talk about the details there. We're
going to talk about the fact that US Border Patrol
is now becoming like the CIA of the interior of
like domestic things. And one thing you can now be
pulled over for is like driving on the wrong street,
having suspicious transportation or patterns. Essentially, then that is because

(11:07):
they think that AI works like the people in the
milk bath in minority prey. They think that they're just like, hey,
I know the future, and so they will pull your
ass over if the AI doesn't like your travel patterns.
So we'll talk about that and then we'll talk about.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
It.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Finally happened. The War on Christmas is real, and it's
being waged by Fox News. That Fox News thinks that
we should not buy Christmas presents this year. Not because
Trump's economy is bad. It's because it's so good. That's
because it's so good that we just think that maybe

(11:49):
you shouldn't because we need to save money because of
this economic condition. But it has nothing to do with
Trump being bad at this job anyways. All of that
plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we do like to task
our guests. What is something from your search history that's
revealing about who you are? Okay, that's probably your researching.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, yeah, you know what I'm doing. I love to
come on here and talk about whatever weird ass thing
I am researching at any given time. My search history
now is Woman's Santa, Women'sta missus claws. No, we are
talking women Santa, which is different than Missus clause. Okay,

(12:30):
So part of I'm doing an episode about mal Santa's
the history of the Mall Santa. I'm gonna do it
with Sarah Marshall, who I know as another friend of Chew,
So that'll be like sometime in December. But what one
of the really interesting things that I found out was
in the nineteen forties, like during you know, the wartime,
women are taking men's jobs because they're away fighting the Nazis.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And I would have never supported the war if I
knew that shit was going to happen. Well, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I know, I know because they never went back.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Curious, but the New York Times article was about and
they're like, have women ruined the workplace?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Someone's holding onto that until Christmas season and they're going
to pop that out at the NYT. But uh yeah,
it was like one of the jobs that a lot
of women took at that time was the role of
the Mall Santa. So there were all these rules about
how to become male enough in your look to pass

(13:32):
the Santa Claus, which of course didn't work super well,
and there were there was definitely like a lot of
anger around the fact that women were becoming Santa Claus.
I'd love to read you guys, basically, yeah, I love Well.
What's so interesting is in the nineteen thirties were so
like queer positive, which people don't really remember because it

(13:55):
was like in entertainment. And then once the war started,
there was this need to like hype, like make the
culture hyper masculine again. So the kind of love of
drag that became so mainstream was killed. And so when
in the nineteen forties, when you have a callback to
that drag time, there was definitely a lot of anger.

(14:17):
And here's here's a great quote from the Saint Louis
Star Times in nineteen forty one. It is customary in
wartime for women to take over numerous fields of employment
conventionally reserved for men. A woman's place is an office, factory, courtroom, marketplace, corner,
filling station, and other locations too numerous to mention. But
there is one male domain, however, that should be defended

(14:39):
at all collegs. Thank you, wo men's Santa Claus, Heaven
forbid that would that would be stretching the credulity of
guileless children too far. Wow abuse, Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
To you a woman get on Santa's lab, Santa woman.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Of a mall lady Santa. I'm like, I wouldn't have
been tera fight of mol Santa if it was this,
you know what I mean saying, I'm like, yeah, I
prefer this. And like a guy with like gin blossomed
face was like, hey, what are you?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
What's your race? Son? What's my race? And he smelled
like gasoline.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's whiskey.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You're a lot darker than your mother.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Huh, you're weird shit walking around the Asian lady in
the late eighties, bro, it was fucking anyway, shout out
to Malsanto's that's Ermanoxam.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I get that sometimes. I'm an older woman. Stopped me
and said, are those your children? Okay? Yeah, yeah, I
don't believe you.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
She did not.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I swear to god. She see me a little bit
off her. Uh, you know, like she was too old
to be walking around by her.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's been watch yeah, it's been watching a lot of
Jim Caviezel movies. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
And that's just the war on dads right there. Perfect example.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I didn't know that the nineteen thirties was like a
drag positive time. Really, like all all our best times
get written out of history.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And it's not it's not a coincidence.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I don't think you wouldn't know about the anarchist movements
and stuff like that, the you know labor movements that
were fought with like dynamite.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
They're just like no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
No no, don't get any ideas.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Now what is What's something you think is underrated?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, guys, I come on this show so much that
I feel like I'm running out of underrated things. So
I am just going to say pencils number two, Taekwonderoga.
And then I when I said that, I thought of
the office quote, of course, because I was just looking
at things in the office and saying that I think
they're underrated.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Exist looking at the things around you and saying you
love them.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's basically what I'm doing. But I don't know. I
love a pencil. I don't have a lot more to
say about it. But I just think I don't type
when I when I need to, like process and information,
got to have that pencil I need to erase. It's
just it's a joy for me. The with the green Yeah,
it's like the most classic cliche archetype classic.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
As being the pink eraser.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
The metal that holds the eraser.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
And the like lettering. It's like a shiny green thing.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
What about mechanical pencils? Where yet on that? You know?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I mean, I don't. I'm not going to like tell
anyone they're wrong. I'm really exciting. All kinds of.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Mechanical I don't like. But you're always like feeling of writing,
like the feeling when you break the lead on that
you pressed your pressing too hard. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
The one good thing about a mechanical pencil is you
can click the lead all the way out and then
pretend to give yourself a shot.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
So that is, did you do the thing where you
because staples out of it? No, like a big pencil,
if you took the tip off the actual click part,
you could put a like a staple that's been like
bent from the stapler flattened out into the place where
the lead goes. And if you pull back on like
the eraser that clicks on it, it would the tension

(18:18):
were launch of amazing.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I would have been doing that a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Definitely. Yeah. Hey, man, power goes out, baby, I got
all kinds of fun ship we can.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Did it come out fast enough to actually cause any
kind of pain or even a sensation, do you know.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean if you maybe hit somebody point blank in
their eye, but it was enough to like fuck with
someone and be like and that's.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
What you want?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
You know what thing ever where someone like acarrently turns
ahead and like now they're you know, from the Dan
Crenshaw zone. Yeah, rocking the iPad.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'll put number two pencils in there as also a
thing that I think, out of context, like years in
the future could be in the same room of the
you know, future moment as like cool design thing, like
the color is really worried. The colors are all really
working together. It's just like a real club, like with
with the Marlborough pack, you know, number two pencils Marlboro.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Together, I feel married.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, oh my god, they're kind Yeah, because the Marlborough
filter is the same is a similar color to the
number two pencil, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, a pencil and a cigarette, so many things in common.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Deep, what is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, I feel like this is really very controversial, But
I'm gonna say I'm not so hyped on all of
the Trump blowing Clinton jokes. I'm just not fine. I'm
like I think it's like it was funny for like
a little bit, but now just I just I think
I'm just kind of bored of it. I think it's boring.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
What other jokes have you said, because I definitely have
laughed at the absurdity of the notion that this has happened.
But I know, I mean, I've definitely I've I've like,
is it becoming a just a memed to death kind
of thing to what it is?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And I think that that it's just like when a
certain subset of the Internet gets a hold of a
joke and then it becomes it's like the boomer just.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Like, oh, he's blowing bobo.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So like, I don't know, I just like I think
they're in the right hands. That joke can be incredible.
In the wrong way, it's super fucking boring.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I think it.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, you know, it depends if what direction you're using, too, like,
because I think some people are like it's fucking weird
because it's gay stuff, and they're like.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, you're missing ahobic, you know, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I mean, like, but I see like that version powering
people's like idea of it where like when it when
it first came out. I was like, how the fuck
is this even a thing that's being written down. It's
incredible like that I'm having to hear about it. I
much prefer the idea of beastiality to be honest.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Another another Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that slippery slope they've
been telling us about for thirty years. Yeah, but I'm
sorry if I've offended anyone out there.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
No, no, no, I want.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Olive you in your you know, I want everyone to
be happy.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I've seen I've seen a lot
of people comment on that too, because I think it's
one of those things where it's, like you said, in
in the wrong hands, it's it's just a weird thing
to keep harping on.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, and it's like people aren't going to let it
go for a long time.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh no, Like this is that which is that.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Was on our brain and on our culture and permanent
marker unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, and again I do know it's funny, it's it's
of course it's funny, but it's important.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, it is going to be just the font of like,
you know, eight eight year old level comedy forever. Now.
Exact think the idea that it is probably the last
thing that he want wants to be known for. Donald
Trump wants to be known for is the one is
the one thing that's like a redeeming quality for me?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Is that he he doesn't want He doesn't want that.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, or just their own homophobia on the right.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh yeah, just go back to you just see that
video of Alex Jones from like years and years ago. Yeah,
not that that was out though, that information was out
because it's what I didn't.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
See the video implied that, Yeah, here, I'll bring it up.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I think it's worth it because.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
He he basically implies that there is this that something
like this does exist here. It is there's no video
of President Trump sucking a ding dong?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Interesting, and so what if there was?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's a lot better than World War three?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
O uh huh. I never sucked any ding dongs.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
But I'll tell you they were going to blackmail me
to start World War three about one.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I'd say, Hey, I sucked a ball golf ball through garden. Yeah,
the line from the movie you're trying to quote.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
He goes on to say though, that he's like, but
I've never slept with a man. I've slept with three
hundred women. But it's very embarrassing. Yeah, it's a really
embarrassing video. But it's weird, right.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's like I've never sucked.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Was this out?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't know, is this out somewhere already? It's just weird.
I'm not an Epstein expert though, so.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean that felt
like new information.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
It did, but it felt like it'd be circulating.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I think it made it. I think I don't know
if it was probably being talked about in line with
like the Steele dossier and P tape.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
And it just do that. It's just like so far,
so many steps beyond like what we knew of Donald
Trump at that time, that people were just like editing
it out. They're like, yeah, no, that's like a step
too far. Nobody's gonna believe that. They'll believe that he
did the P tape thing.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Commendable, that does kind of make sense. Commendable that Alex
Jones isn't homophobic enough to start World War three. I know,
I know he's like, I say, I did it, I'll
prevent World War three. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
But I've been with three hundred human women. Did you
specify human? There's some weird stuff going on out here, folks.
He would be.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I feel like he'd be one.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Of the resort to being six years old when he's
talking about it. I don't think you sucked your ding dong.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
He's still a little Yeah, it's still a little too
much for him to say, yeah, like we wei. I
don't know anyway, And even if he did, he's preventing
World War three, right.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I've never sucked a man's little thingy.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
It's the only time you can do gay ship is
if you're preventing.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
World I was preventing World War three in that rest stop. Okay,
would these are the would you rather get the but.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, his co host, that guy Owen's just like, I
don't know, man, the show's kind of changed. He's not
looking good.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
He's like, I gotta get here.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
And we're back. We're we're back.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
And it's it's hard out here for I mean, they've
been telling us for years. It's hard out here for
the straight white conservative in America. Constant struggle too, because
the thing you want the most in the world is
to be victimized. You want to be oppressed that's all

(25:40):
you want, and fucking nobody will do it. Nobody's oppressing you.
You can't get pulled over.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
You can't get pulled over, you can't get.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Drunk with children in the back of your car. You
can't get pulled boys.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
All right, fine, yeah, so I mean again, is god
to be in the hegemonic class. It's and and try
to be the victim. Oh it's it's so hard out
here for them, and we see them like rhetorical manufacturing
of oppression happened constantly, but occasionally you get the people
that go full method Daniel day Lewis on us and go,

(26:23):
you know what, I need some shit to happen in
physical space that I can take a photo of and
be like, you see what happened to me because I'm
a white racist.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
See how hard it is?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
So case in point, former MAGA congressional aid Natalie Green
from Ocean City, New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Jack you know, oh you know her.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
That friend Ocean City? Yeah, yeah, it's Natalie. Hey you Natalie,
Natalie thought right, anyway, she's work at Maco Maca. There
you go.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Then she worked switched over your uncle Yugi's the subshot.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
But h yeer old Rutgiz law student was in court Wednesday,
charged with one count of conspiracy to convey false statements
and hoaxes, and one count of making false statements to
federal law enforcement because back in July, she said she
alleged she called nine one one to report or a

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co conspirator at this point called nine one one to
report that Green was attacked by three men on a
walking trail in the Egg Harbor Nature Reserve. Quote. When
officers found Green, she was lying with her hands and
feet zip tied and her shirt pulled over her head.
She was crying loudly and yelling, he has a gun,
He has a gun, he has a gun. She had
cuts on her body and the phrase Trump whore written

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across her stomach and Van Drew is racist on her back.
That's the Congressman Drew, that's the congress person who she
was an aid for. So oh pretty specific to be like,
and we know.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Her name, like people who saw her on the trail
and recognized her as a congressional aide to Van Drew. Yeah,
and they were ready.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
They were just ready with all the stuff they needed
to take her down. I do want to say that
I think it's very weird that they would think that
a leftists would write trump hoorr on a woman. They
would obviously write trump sex worker.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeahs, I was waiting on that one. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
It also would have been I feel it would have
been maga too.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, that's how like, if there was some kind of
attack from someone on the left, it would have been
maybe characterizing as maga.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
But anyway, but yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Wouldn't say whoor You really wouldn't just know your opposition.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
They also probably would have added their favorite phrase that
we saw written all over America during the twenty twenty protests,
blacks Black's rules. Yah ya rule black total exact cursive. Yes, yeah,
in handwriting it like it looks like my grandmother.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
This person was definitely in public school in America, and
the Fords, based on the they all got the same
fucking handwriting. But it was a pretty brutal scene, like
she was clearly cut all over her body. But as
the investigation picked up steam, the holes in the story
just got fucking bigger and bigger. So an quote investigation
revealed that Green had paid an artist specializing in scarification

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to use a scalpel to lacerate parts of her body
in a pattern that she directed ahead of the incident.
Investigator said black zip ties were found in her car
on the night of the alleged attack that resembled the
ones who's to restrain her. Investigators also found that two
days before the attack, the phone of Green's alleged co

(29:41):
conspirator had been used to search for zip ties near me.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Too.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Better zipizes near me.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
If you do, dear.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Me, just put into Google Maps and the laziest.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Fucking Google you do for whatever reason. When Google auto
fills near me, I'm like, that is how a plub googles, right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I know how to get this. I know where. We'll
just give you access to my location.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay again, because it's like allow location, I'm like no, no,
but yeah, zip ties near me and then didn't even
take it out of her car, like that's well.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
It's humorous. It's that white conservative hubris.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I feel it is. It really is. Yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
One will question this story, even though it's so sensationalized
that it's like rises into the ridiculous, which I think
is a great way to look at hoaxes. It's like,
when something like this happens, it's like has it risen
into the realm of the ridiculous or is it something
that you can like it's like getting beat up is okay,
but then it's like, is it getting to like a

(30:53):
supervillain level? We got to kind of at least at
least pop a couple questions out there.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, you know, It's what's also kind of ironic
here is that, like the US attorney who is talking
about this case is Alina Habba, who is Trump's personal attorney,
who he made a US attorney in New Jersey. So
it's like weird that she's the one being like this
fake ass mago, like what the fuck is going on

(31:18):
right now?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
But she's given the real people are victimized for loving
Trump a bad name, you know, Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
The dedication here is wild though, Yeah, Like the scarification
is like a level that's frightening.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Like that's where it's like there's something much deeper going on,
because like these are it's not just a couple like
it's all over all over and you're like, my goodness,
uh something right. But then this also I don't know
if people remember this for old old political junkies like me.
I don't know if you remember. In the first Obama

(31:54):
campaign in eight, there was a white lady named Ashley
Todd who said she was attacked for being a McCaine volunteer,
and do vaguely remember that, Yeah, I'll read some of
the news clips from this from two thousand and eight. Said.
Todd initially told investigators she was attempting to use a
bank branch atm on Wednesday night when a six foot
four black man approached her from behind, put a knife
blade to her throat, and demanded money. She told police

(32:15):
she handed the assailants sixty dollars and walked away. Todd,
who is white, told investigator she suspected the man then
noticed a John McCain sticker on her car. She said
the man punched her in the back of the head,
knocked her to the ground, and scratched a backwards letter
b into her face with a dull knife.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Police said.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Todd claimed the man told her that he was going
to quote teach her a lesson for supporting the Republican
presidential candidate, and that she was going to become an
Obama supporter.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
That sounds like a Tim Robinson, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
You're going to become an Obama. You will now be Obama?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
What backwards be? And again I put I put the
picture back in the dog is.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Really great because that is of course the sign. And
for Obama. Oh wait, no, why anyone do a beat backwards?
I mean, I mean I do it well because in
the mirror he was it in the mirror. Well, he's smart.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
He made it look like she did it. Yeah, he
did it.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
He should read it. Yes, yes, yes, see Barack Obama's
first initial, not even the symbol of his campaign, which
was his last initial. I want you to see his
first initial every time you look in a mirror.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, with a don't like envisioning a split personality where
she's saying, all the ship to herself while she's kind.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Of cold Obama, now please, I'm six foot four six.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
But again with that dedication, like what the fuck I
mean cut your face up like that?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
She again, this same lady. Earlier in two thousand and eight,
she was caught she was a Ron Paul supporter in
the primary, and she said she got her tires slashed
by McCain supporters because she supporter. So I think this,
I mean again, I think it's probably a combination of histrionics,

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constantly seeking attention, opportunism, not being well, and then the
political climate to be like this is all going to
make sense to somebody, and this this is full proof,
even though I just zip I googled zip ties near me.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, And there's not like a cohesive political agenda here,
it's it's no attention agenda.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, because they're living in the reality where I'm Because
this is the perceived threats that conservatives have are like
I'm being attacked from merely believing what I believe, yes,
you know, And that's and they're trying to sort of
draw parallel to like all the homophobia, the racism, the xenophobia,
where people are actually being attacked merely for who they
are because they.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Want to be a protected class so bad. Yeah, even
though they are if they're Christian. I don't think people
know that, but they can't.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
They can't get over the fact that the protect they
want they read about it in the Bible like that.
You know, there's a certain class of Christian who like
is just so horny for the whipping scenes and stuff
like that. You know, they're just like, yeah, that's my
dude right there, taking a punch like that.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Loving cat with nine tails, as they call that device,
and then.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
They don't get to experience that themselves. They read about
the early Saints who are like getting their heads cut
off for being Christians. They're just like, I think not
even that.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
They're probably in arguments with co workers or a person
of color, or somebody's like and.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
What and what the fuck have you been through? Right?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
And they're like, fuck, fuck of something.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Definitely in.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Those arguments, you know, because I'm sure they look at
the sort of just the stories that are out there.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
There are numerous stories.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Of of of people who are not CIS white Christian,
just SIS white and just white people generally of not
being a sort of victimized by police or these other
sort of systems of oppression in the count and they're like, man,
we need to put a few more on the scoreboard here. Yeah.
I could also be like what about that? What about me?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
What about that?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
And look, y'all, you can point to the one thing
that's oppressing all of us, which is capitalism.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
You know that's right.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
We can be together.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, oh pressed, you don't have to do it with
your own And I can't argue with him, and will
do that to you.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I cannot argue with you being disenfranchised because of capital
I truly cannot. But you're not in that boat. You're
trying to do the thing where it's all the black
people hate me or whatever the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
So I know, and we could just be together. We
could all be together in oppression under capitalism. Maybe one day.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, I'm wondering how soon, like billionaires are going to
pretend they're like what happened?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
They are behind the exactly what they're doing. But right,
that's true. Oh, I guess I'm the bad guy for
having been successful. Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
If I had known from the start, I wouldn't have
gone to college.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Okay, I guess. Yeah, And this seat, this is why,
this is why we need to have the conversation about
what we do with the pilot who flies us to
our bunker, our island bunker after the apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Do you think my great would do you think my
great grandfather wanted an entire building at Harvard named after him? Like,
I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
It's it's hard for them, But I mean, we could
all be together, and maybe we soon will be. Because
US Border Patrol is monitoring everyone's driving and then dumping
it into a So there's cameras everywhere. They started at
the border, having cameras that would like read license plates,
you know, monitor where people are, send it to a database.

(37:44):
But now with the advent of you know, flawless AI
that is always right, they're now dumping it into a
database and then drawing conclusions based on that. This is
a quote from an AP report about this new trend
and get pulled over. The new trend uses a system
where the predictive intelligence program has resulted in people being stopped, searched,

(38:07):
and in some cases arrested. A network of cameras, scans
and records vehicle license plate information, and an algorithm flags
vehicles deemed suspicious based on where they came from, where
they were going, and which route they took predictive intelligence.
They literally think AI is the pre cogs.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
We know it's not.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
It's auto complete. Yeah, And they're like, and it can
auto complete that you were only in this neighborhood because
you wanted to steal Amazon packages from rich people. What
we talked about, Brian Netder was talking about this video
that went viral where a woman's pulled over for like
driving in a neighborhood too many times, and they're basically

(38:50):
saying like, you must be stealing people's packages because you
were you've driven on the street too many times, and
our AI algorithm says that that's what's happening, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Just because like, well, why would you be driving through
all the time, like cause I commute?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, Like yeah, So I'm just wondering how they then
find the person to pull over, like they get the data,
are they like waiting for them to take the same route,
or are they like able to track their car through
like a phone or something. Does anybody know?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
I don't, but I think that these cameras can like
basically spot when sure like a car, you know, they
know where your car is. Basically there's enough cameras out
there that they know where your car is, so it
doesn't you know, they can just be like where's this car? Okay,
we're going to go out there and pull them over.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah right, yeah, because they don't like the license plate
reader thing is like a thing they really don't want
people to know that they're using too.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, but it's it's pretty it's getting more and more omnipresent.
The API article goes on to say, suddenly drivers find
themselves pulled over, often for reasons cited such as speeding,
failure to signal, the wrong window tint or even a
dangling air freshmen or blocking the view. And now we're
getting to some of the things that yeah, it's minority report. Literally,

(40:11):
I feel like this is just new pretense to pull
over people of color. They're then aggressively questioned and searched,
with no inkling that the roads they drove put them
on law enforcement radar. Once limited to police in the
nation's boundaries, the Border Patrol has built a surveillance system
stretching into the country's interior that can monitor ordinary Americans
daily actions and connections for anomalies instead of simply targeting

(40:36):
wanted suspects.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Right, yeah, yikes, I mean because their jurisdiction is one
hundred miles in from the border, right typically, like you know, typically,
I mean according to their own charter or their own regulations.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
But women doesn't seem like they're stopping at that as
they're saying that this has now made US customs and
Border protection like the new Trump you know, BBBB is
like to sending two point seven billion dollars to build
even more of these sorts of things. So now Customs
and Border Protection is quote something more akin to a

(41:14):
domestic intelligence operation, right.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah. They say their criteria for driver behavior that would
be suspicious or tied to drug trafficking is for anything
from driving on backcountry roads, being in a rental car,
or making short trips to the border region.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah what if.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
You live off a backcountry road your car you need
a rental car because it's in the shop and you're
just near the border. They're like, oh, yeah, everybody here,
I guess. But yeah, again, they'll whatever they can use
to begin to create any sort of pretext to harass
people is all they need, and especially for them where
they just need to be perceived as being active when
they're not, they're just fucking harassing people.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I feel like the next level of this, even separate
from like border quote unquote border activity, is like as
soon as my phone started telling me my like how
fast I'm going in my car, it was like, it's
only a matter of time before they're auto giving tickets,
like through the kind of data where you're like you
go over a certain speed limit and you're just right right,
get a ticket. I feel like that's going to come eventually.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Today that is happening in Europe, is it really? Yeah? Yeah,
that's been happening in Europe for a while, and I
think people are I don't know how it's affected affected driving,
but now people like basically the speed limit is literally
the limit, and when you go over it, they're just like, okay,
so you spent this much time over.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
It, and now you yang okay, Yeah, well it's here.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
It's it's just our country is just so terribly terrible
on the infrastructure front. It's going to take a little bit.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. I do feel like that's something
we can count on the mega types to really push
back again, like the same people who are protesting. Have
you ever seen the little news clip article where people
were like protesting seatbelts or there's also a really good
local news report from I think it was Texas where

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people are furious that you're not allowed to drink and
drive and they're like, I'm gonna continue to have a
couple of beers in my car on the way home
from work and nobody's gonna tell me that I can't.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
This is the cause.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, so they'll probably get mad about the one where
like it gives you a ticket for going over the
speed limit.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I mean, all this stuff just really just shows you
how much like you'll be safer and maybe life's easier
if you go back to the most primitive technologies too.
I mean, obviously you need a car to get around,
but it's like, God, damn, like the so much. I
look at the phone and I'm like, do I only
have like a newer phone for a camera to take

(43:47):
a picture of my child? That's the only thing at
that point, Like I cannot keep having this sort of
vector for bad information in my hands through social media
and that other stuff. And like maybe I think by
next year might have a dummy phone. I'm like, getting there,
you're going to do about it? I keep talking about it,
and that's usually how the shit starts with me, is
like I talk about it thing like I might, I might,

(44:08):
I might, I might, and sometimes I do sometimes I don't.
But the more I just think about it, I'm like, God,
I think, just to simplify.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Things a little bit, I feel like that movement's coming. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Mean it's already happening with young kids. Yeah, younger kids,
like they're they've already they've burnt out before adults have
already on social media, like I've we talked about it
a few months ago, just but like a study where
like younger kids are like, I don't want any kind
of social media on my phone. I prefer something dumb.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, because now they're rejecting their parents' culture. And that's
a good thing. That's what that's what kids.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
And teens do. Yeah, that was going to happen regardless
of what the cultures.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, it doesn't matter what it is. They can transgress
any and I think that's a lot of what we're
seeing with like the conservative youth because they're they're growing
up in a more liberalized pop culture society. They're pushing
back and I think maybe I'll get over it. That's
my dream.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, we've seen it a yo. Yes, look, hey we
do that.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
We do this all the time.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
White nationalism, Yeah boo boo.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back
and we're back or back And Fox News the number

(45:29):
on their number one story for like the first decade,
their number they're going concern for the first decade in
existence was the War on Christmas, aka anyone being like
we're as a corporation, have made the decision that it
allows us to reach a broader swath of our potential

(45:52):
consumers if we say stuff like happy Holidays instead of
Merry christ miss. You know, if we're just like happy holidays.
This is a holiday season in our country.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Uh so, you know, did you tell my grandmother to
burn in hell? Right now? I just said happy holiday?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
There's many holidays. We took that, and we're like waging woke.
America's waging the war on Christmas. And they don't want
us to even have fucking Christmas parties anymore now. They
want it to be faith neutral. Holiday parties were just
never like that. It's always been over exaggerated from the start.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, the Starbucks cup, it's like commie red, you.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Know, commie red. I'm thinking of it. So Santa Claus, Hey,
something's going on here. Yeah, probably started by those women malls,
I think. But uh so, you know, this particular holiday season,
everybody's racing for higher costs, even though Trump has claimed

(46:54):
prices are falling. Everybody with eyes that tell information to
their brain, Jeffrey Epstein so helpfully pointed out in his
email to himself titled Breakthroughs Eyes transmit information to brain.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Oh yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Just like sent himself this like series of high thoughts
that were like so dumb.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
They're so dumb. It's just like it breaks your soul
even further.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
You're like the skin part of brain me brain, but
he spelled it meme brain.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
And then yeah, high school math at a private school.
It's so crazy to watch him try to put a
sentence together.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Beard and mustache trap smell.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Oh yeah, that's right. That was just like for what
why even? Yeah? Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
One of the line items was just groups versus individuals.
That was a question mark. Question mark.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I think this is a good point to Chelsea. You're
you're underrated. It was like, just write that ship down
and no one's ever gonna have to see that. Yeah.
How like if people saw the notes I take on
creative ideas, everyone would give up on me.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, writing a secret, make it so you can burn it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, or just you know, or it's written in a
way where it's like I know how these words are
going to hit my brain and reactivate the idea. Anyone
else would be like, I think you're a child, and
you have a childlike perspective on everything and that might
be true, but anyway, but.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, anyways, this is all to say if literally, this
is only a story that could have come out on
Fox News, because if anyone had said it anywhere else,
Fox News would have broken. They would have gone so
hard about how people were trying to cancel Christmas. But
because it's Fox News, and because they are backed into
a corner of having to talk to real people who

(48:46):
are being affected by the economy while also trying to
hold water for Trump's economy, they've gone to this. During
a segment about tips to save money during the holidays,
guest Jade Warshaw argued that adults don't need gifts. Focus
on the people in your life who are aged three
to eighteen. Grandma doesn't need slippers. If they don't live

(49:09):
by you, don't get them a gift.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Carrying it said earnestly on a news show is like
this again, we can't people can't afford shit. So this
is a new rationale, right to be like, eah, fuck
Christmas anyway.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Budget, budget, budget, you need a plan. Also, remember adults
don't need gifts. Okay, focus on the people in your
life who are aged three to eighteen. Grandma doesn't need slippers.
If they don't live by you, don't get them a gift.
Now is not the time to spend and break the
bank sending packages across the country, Dana, focus on the
people in your life ages three to eighteen. That's my

(49:45):
thirty seconds for you.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
That's my thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You know what, baby gifts?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
No gifts, We're in fatu fuck grandma?

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yes to eighteen?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Couse you just had a babyman, I have to quote
Michael Jordan. Fuck them kids, you know what I mean.
It's it's this and this economy.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
No, you know who doesn't give a shit about toys?
Two year old?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, I'm surprised they're not defining adults. Ays three to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, I know you're getting there. Where's the conservative news
math on what is a child when it comes to pedophilia?
And what is a child when it comes to gift
giving during Christmas?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, well can you reconcile those two numbers? Please that
By the way, that a woman who's on there is
Jade warshow was like on the Dave Ramsey Show, who's like,
you know a lot of people know him, like this
financial guru dude. He's also like out there Christian conservative
guy like he fired his employees for pre marital sex.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Yeah, he fired them for premier employees are having pre
marital sex? Should be disqualifying for public life. Why do
you know that they're having pre marital sex.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
They admit it. They admit it.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I admit it.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Oh my god, god you yeah, and you're fired now
because you said you had sex before.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
You made one, like really goofy. Part of all this
war on Christmas stuff, we did an episode called War
on Christmas that I will push like many years ago.
But the history of Christmas is such that the Puritans,
who I would say are these people's cultural ancestors, they
banned Christmas. They hate in it. They thought it was
overly decadent, right, And it's like, so we're going, you know,

(51:26):
we're returning to basically what their proto religious icons rejected.
So it is just they don't know, I mean, they don't.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Know the same way they're becoming Nazis.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Yeah right, Yeah, we're taking.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
A trip through all the best people in history. Yeah,
the witch burners, the people who bought the Holocausts they're
killing right, They're like, you know why your grandpa couldn't
hug anyone, right, it's because of World War two and
all the shit that it did to him.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Uh, but you guys just called him a tough bastard anyway,
and now you're he's spinning in his urn because you're
cosplaying as a Nazi. But yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
CNN jumped on this and was like, I feel like
this might be Fox admitting the economy is in the toilet,
because elsewhere they're like, the economy is thriving. But just
so you know, you can't buy people Christmas presents. Well,
the economy is so good, I guess don't worry about it,
just to shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
It's so patronizing because it's like how you try and
convince a kid like to not do something like, oh,
doing that is not cool. That's actually not good.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
They don't need it, they don't need that.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Actually Christmas gifts this year not good for adults. Actually
really dumb to do. Actually food food is like such
an indulgence, guys in potable water. It's like, come on
for child's play. Yeah, I just seeing them shift.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
The late actually wrote an article It's time to stop
giving gifts to adults. There was one in the Guardian.
My family has got a lot better since we stopped
giving presents. I actually was just talking to somebody who
was like, yeah, my family doesn't give, doesn't celebrate anything.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
And wow, we believe in nothing.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
We believe in nothing.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Lebout Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
So this is a point that's been made before. I
don't think it was made in direct reference to how
shit the economy was in the past, but I do
like anytime it's framed as like unnecessary consumerist impulses where
you're just like buying a present to buy it, it's
just like it. It seems like a lot of this
could be addressed by just like being better at giving gifts,

(53:32):
not giving shit that people are going to immediately like
throw in.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
The trust decie.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I bought fifty air pod cases in
bulk that I'm just going to hand out to people,
not even knowing if they have them. But I just
need somebody you can.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Never can never use. Too many of these.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Are the Fox and these people doing any kind of
like smoke screen shit of like Christmas is about being
together and you know, or they just like don't get gets.
They're not quite stupid yet.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I think they're still trying to do a thing where
they're trying to act as if they are dealing with
reality and like, yea, prices are hot, and here's some
budgeting tips. I don't think they haven't quite it's it's
that would be something to really just try and shift
gears ideologically that quick, to be like it was actually
never about this ever. Ever, it should be just about
the vibes, folks, not the presence.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
And I always have that attitude of like, it's so
obvious that you figured it out yet.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Right right right?

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yeah, telling you to your whole career past.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Again, this isn't going to bode well for a country
that has been so had the marketing hammered into your
skulls since birth that you must consume. Yeah, this isn't
going to happen that easy.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
But I take umbrage with targeting grandma. Why are we
why I know what slippers? Slippers are like some crazy indulgence.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
It's wild that there, it's wild that they're targeting grandma
since those are the only people who watch Fox News, right,
But I do feel like she kind of has a
point in the sense that there might be like a
karmic debt for that generation, like they're the generation that
Broadley has hoarded all the wealth. They tend to be

(55:17):
the ones who are watching Fox News. So I feel
like if your grandma was a Fox watcher, oh, I
think if you might have my permission to not buy
them slippers. You just you just have an ironclad argument
for your Fox watching family to not buy them presents.
You're like, I was just watching and watching a Fox

(55:38):
and they said no adult present at eighteen this year.
So I'm not buying anyone who I've ever seen watch
Fox presence this year?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
But why do I think that they still expect presence?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Of course, That's what's so stupid about all of this.
It is also like such an American ass, like you know,
Fox News just like being the most American values, which
is just like stick them in a home. Fuck them,
they're not us, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Stick them in a home that won't even be subsidized
by medicaid. No whoops about that part. There's a there's
another act coming up that will have to reckon with. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I mean it's funny because I do.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I totally get like there have been years too or
like her mazicine and I are like man let's not
do presents because it's it is, it's a it can
be a burden to try and like give a good gift.
I have the effort to give good gifts. I'm not
like I know people who are so gifted and the
pun is intended at identifying like a good gift for someone.

(56:39):
I like, it's come to the point, like with her magicy,
Like if she says something like offhandedly, I'm like, I'll
put that in the Yeah, maybe this can be a
fucking gift, a gift. Yeah, And I'm like writing, yeah,
I'm writing down like Titanic cruise and fuck, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
It is that phenomenon too, of like when you're a
kid and you're obsessed with one thing like mine was wolves, right,
and then you're in your thirties and you're getting bolf
ship from your.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
For the rest of really, yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
We don't have to do this, we don't have to
do this.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
I get a book, like comedy books, you know, I'm
sure from people like anything from the humor section. Hey,
you're the you did a comedy thing, you know.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Matt Greening before the Simpsons, he did these funny books.
Life is Hell.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Check it out.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
But anyways, I feel I get all of your relative
presence if you can afford to. Don't especially like i'd
say the eighteen two or the three to eighteen and
then maybe skip up to the elderly. But the elderly
get no fucking love and attention from people in this
world like that. Don't, don't skip your grandma. Like you

(57:53):
could come to an agreement with your significant other that
that's that's totally fine, But like skip out on the elderly.
It just feels too much to uh, no country for
old men.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
We're already skipping out.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
And maybe like a good middle ground is like get
your grandma and experience, take her somewhere, yeah, you know,
get her, take her out to dinner, something kings rally.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
You know, it takes something different, something different, I mean, unless.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
They watch Fox News, in which case you can just
be like, just send them this clip.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Just send them like you burned.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yeah, hey, it was gonna get you slippers, but dot
dot dot or this link, but you're wearing this.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
You send a photo you wearing the slippers. These are nice,
actually nice as hell feet or sweating. Now, damn, Chelsea,
is such.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
A pleasure having you as always where can people find you?
Follow you all that good stuff?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Well, it's always a joy. Thank you for having me.
You can really I would prefer just for you to
go listen to American Hysteria wherever you get your podcasts.
The only social media I got right now is inta
at American Hysteria, so you can follow me there as well.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Is there work a media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Oh yeah, I did find something. This was actually from
like twenty eighteen, but it's making the rounds. It's a
Twitter at at Robot Rowboat and it says inventing the
Hot Air Balloon. I don't give a fuck where I go,
you know, isn't it Why?

Speaker 3 (59:32):
How is that a thing?

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Well, and I will say just one more little push.
We did a balloon Boy episode a bit ago. If
you guys remember when the balloon Kid got the hoax, right,
But we also do a history of the Hot Air Balloon,
which is incredibly insane, So wow, go check that out.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Remember no More was the name of that family the
Balloon Boy. Weren't they Japanese or something? Was the mom to?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
I think his wife was Japanese if I'm remembering correct.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yeah. And then but the yes, do you remember that
video they did Pussified?

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Oh, yes, I do. If you don't think, if you think.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I don't know every course you know. Yeah, yeah, Pussified
to the music.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
But go ahead and revisit that everyone like, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Please do, please do miles Where can people find you
as their work, Amedia, you've been.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Enjoying, Uh yeah, find me everywhere at miles of Gray,
find me talking ninety day on four to twenty day fiance, Uh,
work a media like I've just been just been getting
the chair company.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I love la.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
There's just so many fun things out right now, and
I'm glad I'm somewhat keeping up with the discourse, with
the pace of the releases of these things. So yeah,
oh and there is a video I like. So in
the World Cup qualifying. Scotland has qualified for the World
Cup for the first time like twenty eight years, and
it's a big deal for like countries who haven't been

(01:00:59):
in the World Cup to because.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Like Scotland, yes he said Scotland. Oh, like somebody named
scott you know Scotland. Yeah, yeah, Larry Lynn's brother. So
this is just a this is a clip of when Scotland,
you know, wins the game to qualify for the World Cup.
And it's like in a pub in Scotland and this
person at you in smith pr just but poor lad

(01:01:20):
was just out for a quiet pint in his local
uh meeting his local pub, and like you'll just see
these guys fucking losing it when they win, and a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Guy just trying to enjoy his pint. He's about to
shoot a long range shot and win. This guy right here,

(01:01:49):
just a guy, Oh my god. Yeah yeah, yeah, I
doubt he was.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Like they beat Chaos and then this one guy sitting
by himself with two fuck he was Danish.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I don't know they did beat Denmark, so I doubt
he was a Danish fan, but it would be a
little bit weird.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna show them at the pub.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, Brian
on Blue Sky jacko b the number one my working media.
I'll just shout out the new Icon. Episodes of TDJ
were dropping on Monday mornings. First thing. Episode one was
Einstein with Michael Swam. Episode two with Jaquith Neil. It
was about a little guy by the name of Steve Verkle.

(01:02:36):
That drops on Monday, and it's a lot of fun.
Go check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at
Daily Zekeistred the Daily Zekeeist on Instagram. You can go
to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes,
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about in today's episode. We also link off
to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Yeah, since we're talking about just you know, we death
cults abound. This track is called death Cult Zombie by
the Australian Ghanaian artist Genesis Owusu Really dope. It's kind
of like punky electro kind of vibe, but just sort
of talking about you know, I think I was reading
about like his sort of inspiration for it, and just

(01:03:24):
kind of how like, you know, we all choose a
thing and we'll live by it, and we won't and
pride will not allow us to ever let logic or
facts sometimes intrude those things. So like we're all kind
of death cult zombies. But he mentions a few names
that I think are a little bit specific to the
kinds of death Cult zombies out here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yeah, yeah, me is it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
No, I don't think you're known to him at all
in any capacity. Would be a big moment though, would
be a big moment anyway. So this is Genesis a
woosu with Death Cult Zombie right. The Daily Zea is
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Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
That's gonna do it for us this week, Yes again,
we have the Weekly Zeitgeist drop in over the weekend,
which is a highlight reel of the episodes you might
have missed this week. And then Monday morning the next
Evergreen Icon episode, which is about Steve Arkle, and we

(01:04:22):
will talk to you all then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Bye bye, bye bye. The Daily zeit Geist is executive
produced by Catherine Long.

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