October 2, 2025 • 28 mins
In this edition of Geist Minds Think a Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss What's happening now that the government is shut down, How the expanding of the definition of terrorism is being used to criminalize dissent, The passing of Jane Goodall, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Geist Minds,
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
The phrase geist minds think all right.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Geist minds thick alike?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh right, yeah, yeah, it's probably.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
That I don't know, man, I'm I'm not paid to
know these phrases idioms. You didn't even know QuickTime player,
get I know, I'm I'm at a place where it
took me five seconds to remember the name of quick
time to open up the recording, even though we were
we recording QuickTime every day. Yeah. Yeah, some do, many,
(00:36):
many do.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't use QuickTime. Just wll disclosure if I just
want to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Think you're better than me?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
All right it is make them a lot better than
October second, twenty twenty five. Yeah, those are our facts.
You are a lot better than me. My name is Jack.
That over there is mister Miles. Great.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, whoa, whoa, yes, let's go. What's trending?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I got him? I did to a art show opening
for Todd Gray by a friend who like works at
a gallery. Yeah. I was like the fun.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That's funny Ledge When is it. I don't even know
there's an opening in the new year. Oh shit, okay,
all right, I'll wake you up one September.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, please do all right, it's October. Oh shit, man,
wake me up when October ends. Also, just kind of
can we can we click this ship? Can we just
fast forward run through a couple of years here? All right?
What's happening in the news. The government shutdown is happening.
Donald Trump trying to be real shrewd with it, is
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basically like I'll starve you to death.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, well, I mean, like it's just it's just retaliation.
There's a lot happening. The insistence on this is a
Democrats shutdown, Like there are mass emails going out, like
you know, because the Democrats are like fucking over or
like if you get a bounce back email, they're like,
due to the Democrats shutdown, we will be slow and
responding to da da da da da. He's really trying
to just sort of like seed that idea that this
is all at the responsibility of the Democrats because this
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is a lie. He's saying it's because they want to
give illegals health care, and that's the hill they want
to die on, So we're just going to have to
shit they then we have no choice. And to that end,
we are going to threaten thousands of federal workers with
layoffs too as a way basically just blackmailing the Democrats
to be like, we'll do it, Yeah, we'll do it.
(02:33):
We're fucking wacky man read Project twenty twenty five. So
he and Russell Vott are now using the shutdown to
just see how much damage they can inflict first, I think,
on blue states, to try and really upset the people
in those states, like by pulling all kinds of green
energy money that was supposed to go in there from
the Green New Deal. So pretty much any state that
didn't vote for him is seeing that money get pulled,
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along with a few other states with like other specific programs.
So that's kind of they're at that place now and
just trying to take it out on federal workers as
a way to try and bring Democrats to the table.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Just a hostage situation essentially.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, But it's just it's fucking crazy because you're talking
about the people that do the work, that even give
people the idea that things work. So then when there
aren't any people to sustain those agencies. That's going to
be that's going to manifest in chaos, and I'm sure
that's that is part of Project twenty twenty five is
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to completely gut the federal government essentially.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Right, And so it just gives them an excuse.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But I think that's the other thing too, is like
doing that really close to I mean, while if we
have normal elections, you know, having like a government like
that is absolutely just not fucking working isn't a great look.
But for the people in power, yeah, they're really never
interested in, look what a good look is. So it's
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just very you know, right now, it's starting with this
shit about being well, we're not going to give you
your windmil money, right, but I'm sure we'll. They're gonna
probably crank the heat up the more they realize how
much people are laying this at their feet, right.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And the Democrats are just being like no, uh, it's
a Trump shut down, and like it's just yeah, but
they're being.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Clear and being like this is this is not whatever
the fuck they're talking about. It's because they're gonna take
away all these healthcare subsidies and like your assurance tax credits,
like people, you know, they're giving examples of like, let's
say you're a sixty year old couple in Mike Johnson's
like the state of Louisiana, your your fucking premiums are
gonna go up like three hundred percent without some of
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these tax credits intact. So yeah, it's just a bunch
of screaming right now. As you know, this thing just
kind of grinds to a halt for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, great, great country, we got here, Yeah, killing it.
We're doing We're doing good work. Everything's functioning great. We do.
We did get a sense of like how they're talking
behind the scenes a little bit with a hot mic
moment from who what's this.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Reverend Madaline Dean Madeline Madelin Dean as a Democrat speaking
of Mike Johnson, pretty candid, the way that people might
speak to one another. Yeah, just cam him in the corner,
and you know, this is getting a lot of attention
because a lot of you'll just see she's like, what
the fuck's going on with the president? Basically yeah, and
this is Mike Johnson subconsciously agreeing with her by nodding
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his head in agreement as she's talking, but then being
like well no, no, no, no. But here's this interaction that
was sort of happening off camera, but because the mic
was on, we got to sort of hear it all happen.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The president is unhinged, he is unwell. What are you
doing on your set?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Are too? I don't control?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Oh my god, please that performance in front of the
generals that it's so dangerous. You know, I serve on
foreign affairs and appropriations. This is a collision of those
two things. Our allies are looking elsewhere, our enemies are laughing. President,
she's a president who is unwell.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
A lot of folks on your side are two? Are two? Two?
As in I know you are.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That seems to be accepting that the president is out
of his mind, and then saying, well, you guys have
some like bad ones too, which seems like a real
oh my god, he admitted it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's what a lot of people are being like, Wait,
hold on. So when she goes he's unhinged, he's unwell,
and you said people on your side are too, is it?
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
This is yeah. I mean I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Her response after the like a lot of folks on
your side are too, it was like, oh my god, please.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I'm kind of here for this.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Wake the fuck up, dude, Like that's what it felt like?
That did you because you know he knows it's an
L because you said that performance in front of the
generals when.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He was just like, I didn't see it. You know,
they know it's an L when they say I didn't
see it. Yeah, I actually didn't watch that thing that
everybody's been talking about for the past twenty four hours
where the president spoke to the most powerful military figures
in the country. I actually, uh, didn't you follow up?
How did you think about that? Actually? So that was
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the thing?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sorry, follow up your third in line to be president,
just so you know, and you you didn't see that?
So are you bad at your job? Also? Do you
want to see it now? And then you can tell.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Me what the fuck is up? Sure you want to
do that?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You want to try that shit out?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This did make me just wonder, like, why the fuck
aren't the Democrats talking like this in public? Was my
first thought, Like is it are they just standing on
decorum at this point where, like, you know, the lives
of people they represent are being violently upended, and they're like, well,
we can't be rude and say officially, like the prade is.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You know, e Nile, He's slipping into darkness, and.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'm yeah, I mean, families and communities are being torn
apart by government sanctioned kidnappings, and they're choosing to like
point out that the president is unhinged behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
See well, and this is where I'm maybe this is
they are keeping that same energy, because yesterday Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker,
in front of microphones was like the here, I'll just this.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is JB.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Pritzker at a press conference.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
It appears that Donald Trump not only has dementia set in,
but he's copying tactics of Vladimir Putin. Sending troops into cities,
thinking that that's some sort of proving ground for war
or that indeed there's some sort of internal war going
on in the United States. Is just frankly inane, and
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I'm concerned for his health.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
He goes on to be like, yeah, you know, maybe
twenty fifth Amendment here, he might need to be removed
from office, right. I mean, I honestly think like the
concern trolling is probably a good tactic. Here is he okay?
Is he okay? Is he okay? Are you sure what
was that about? What was that about? I didn't see it.
Oh you should see it and then tell me what
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that was about.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, just keep pressing yeah, because you can
only press.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They can only mitigate for so long, which they have
been doing. But it's also I think that I think
the people who are on the opposing side of it go,
oh yeah, let me ask a follow up question, because
it's clear to everyone on the left or who isn't
a Republican who's like a total sick event that he
has fucking cooked mentally.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, I don't know, Like, I think it's a good
way forward just to like, it's just the energy of it,
to just be like, this is not normal. Fuck, this
guy is like the energy of it. I don't know
if it's caused by senility or you know, moments of sinility,
or if the I don't know, like he just he's
still just barfing out the same shit. He's just worse
(09:59):
that and seems more tired and like scattered. Right.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Sure, but if you compare it to any person who
we would say is healthy and in their maybe middle age,
even they can say full sentences, they can connect ideas
like objectively, his speech is all it's like scatterbrained. Yes,
he was mistaking Albania for Armenia recently, Like he can't.
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He doesn't get anything straight that is objectively not good.
And I think, you know, we're sort of like operating
in this thing where like everyone kind of knows, like, yeah,
this guy's kind of fucking something's wrong with him. But
I think Republicans it's easy for them like, oh, he's
he's a quirky, fun president. But if you kind of
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keep insisting this is so different, this is like something
is wrong, like is he okay? I think it at
least shift the conversation to at least yeah, because the
framing is still the framing isn't that guy something's wrong
with him? The framing is he's kind of a weird guy.
That's kind of what we're operating in, and that needs
to conversation. If this kind of tactic is effective, it
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would shift it to what's wrong with him? And why
aren't you guys who are in his party doing something
about it? Because to leave him there is putting everyone
in grave danger. I mean, like already we are. But
I guess in terms of like rhetorically, how Democrats or
Republicans talk on the hill that would at least begin
to put more pressure on them explaining like why he's
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posting weird shit. Caroline Levitt was asked about the medbed
video guy, and the press is like, what was he
trying to communicate with that video? He deleted it, but
what was he trying to communicate to that with that? Yeah,
and she just went on a version of like, he
likes to post memes and like stuff that he sees
that he likes, and isn't it refreshing? But then you
can be like, he was talking about technologies that don't exist.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right, that seems weird for the president to send a
video that says he's created a technology that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That seems does he believe in it? Or what is
he implying by that that's that's aspirational for him?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What is the that you know politics much better than me?
What is the fourth that is stopping them from speaking
the way that she just spoke to him on a
hot mic that stopped them from saying they're weird? Is
that the consultants being like, if we're too mean, it
seems unlikable.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
What what's I mean there's always some version of like
because like the messaging gets so vetted, like if it's
coming from the party, like they're they're fucking in the
lab trying to be like what what what happens with
this group? BEFO, we're talking this way right? How is
how does this messaging poll with this group? I think
right now the reason is because I for what I mean,
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like what we've seen is just that Democrats they're still
insistent on having this sense of like, well, we're not
going to I mean they were they were casting aspersions
on Joe Biden's mental acuity, right, and and that's just
that's just really unbecoming.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So there's so so you should have cast dispersions on
Joe Biden's mental acuity?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Dumb fucks. That's what I mean that I would be effective.
We'll be like, hey, guys, you know we should have
actually acted sooner, right, and you know what, and now
we're telling you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We're coming off a massive mistake that we made and
we're worried, like it's like you can't have the same
exact thing happened two times in a row and not
catch it, like the same shit has happened.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think the other thing too, is they don't want
to start doing the like he's he's got dementia thing,
because then the Republicans just cook up some fake doctor's
note and be like.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Right, guys are like you guys are Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That's why I'm saying, like, just adjust it a little
bit and go yeah, okay, a little tweak, Yeah that
all right.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
The energy is important to me. I don't think that
this is like the only way forward, being No, I
don't think they'll be able to just like, you know,
work around that. I do think journalists should be changing,
Like you said, they should be asking follow up questions
in a very reserve way that uh forces him, especially
to think on his feet if they're continuing to make
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him a bit to the media, which I guess they
don't do that often. But when you have that opportunity,
go in knowing that you were this is both an
attempt to like get information but also an attempt to
give him a public like neurological exam, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, and get them he would have them to articulate
a defense of it too, because half the time it
just doesn't make sense. Although you know, I think a
lot of people they they do just see him as
quirky or whatever. You know that are like that are
his fans, because really they just like to see you know,
they're like, I just want to drink liberal tears.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and you can find little moments where he says
something that seems to make sense. It's just yeah, you know,
when taken in the hole. Anybody who has you know,
lived with or had a loved one who suffered from
dementia recognizes the energy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And it's more like you got to it's more about
putting pressure on the sick of fans, Yeah, in the House,
in the Senate and in the cabinet to be like, yo,
you're good with this, yo, this you this you you know,
like more more so about making a person individually account
for what that what how they're seeing it. Like that's
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why Mike Johnson got so uncomfortable because she was She
was like, what's going on with him? What do you
think about this? And he's like, well, you know, you
guys do it too.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's just wild that he didn't know the very basic
rules of like how you respond to a playground insult.
He was like, you know, uh, you seem like so
stupid that like I'm I'm actually worried about you. And
he's like, well, you are too. Yeah. It's like, no,
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you say, I know you are, but what am I
You're not? You're You're not supposed to include you, dip shit.
We're both really dumb. Yeah, I know, but you are too.
We're both dumb as fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Okay, right, man, let's just get to it.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Header gut. You are bad at this header gun man,
Jesus Christ, fucking sucker, dick man, don't beat me up.
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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And we're back.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And there's this new order named NSPM seven. Oh yeah,
did we touch on that yesterday on Monday?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
On Monday, just basically talking about yeah, like the new
directive to make anything anti traditional, anti Christian, anti capitalism,
anti America.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's pretty indicator for terrorism. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
it's basically I don't know. So this Time Magazine article
just lays it out. The Trump administration is facing mounting
criticism over a sweeping directive that expands the government's definition
of domestic terrorism indicators to include a wide range of
political beliefs, with lawmakers and civil liberties groups warning it
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could be used to criminalize descent. It could be used
to criminalize descent. The wording is it directs the FBI's
Joint Terrorism Task Force to investigate networks, entities, and organizations
that foment political violence, and identifies ideological markers such as
anti Americanism, anti capitalism, and anti Christianity as red flags.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
There's another thing too, that said extreme views on gender
or extreme views on immigrants. Basically, if you know, it's
essentially whatever, if you guys are if you're not on
board with this, then you were going to label you
as some kind of terrorist to you know, bring back
this new McCarthyism.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I mean, I've always said Time magazine as a garbage publication.
But to claim that this could be used to criminalize descent,
it is the Criminalizing Descent bill. It is the explicit, Like,
how could it be any more explicit? Like that's like
saying a handgun that is pointed at your head could
be used to shoot you. That's the whole fucking reason
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it's there. Yeah, like what what other things? Well, so
you're saying it could be used what other things could
it be used for?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, it is specifically a weapon to make it so
they can arrest trans people or people who are critical
of fucking capitalism.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it's like, I mean, the order itself is just
very wacky, and it's like sort of it's doing this
whole thing of like there's all these foreign money coming
in because a lot I was reading a lot of
people who talk about like Farah enforcement, you know, the
Foreign Agents Registration Act, Like they're trying to use that
to try and say like if there are affinity groups
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or advocacy groups that are receiving money from anything that
could be tied to like like a foreign country or
foreign national, Yeah, that they're going to try and use
that to be like, oh, we have foreign people trying
to affect like, you know, the conversation in this country
by backing these groups or whatever. So I was reading
about like lawyers who work with certain groups that you
know could be seen as quote unquote being in the
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part of this, like you know, a terroristic group that
they should really be looking over because seems like maybe
like foreign money is going to be an inroad with
how they try and legally fuck people over too, like
to start yeah with like these like you know, larger
organizations to be like why are you getting money from
this person who lives out of the country. Oh, that's strange.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
In this global economy.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just really it's interesting.
I mean, it's not interesting. It's just very confusing because
like legally, like all the people who read it, they're like, like, legally,
this documents all over the place, but they're also like,
at the same time, the government is using nothing but
like legally dubious arguments to fuck with people right now.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, So in that way, it's like hard to know
how this actually ends up like manifesting.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It seems bad, it seems no, no, it is I mean,
like to articulate it already to be like, if you
do not believe Jesus Christ is the Savior and money
is his rest, the greenback is his father, you will
go away for whatever or lose.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Everything or whatever. They you know, decide to punish it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
They were annoyed that they only had to take Jimmy
Kimmel off the air. They were wishing they could just
arrest him, you know. The update on the Gods of
flotilla is that it has been intercepted by the Israeli Navy,
who detained hundreds of activists and arrested them with no
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right to do so in any way, And I mean,
that's really it's very depressing. And then like I'm also
really depressed to report that I was like half relieved
that they didn't murder them all. That's like where the
fucking where my expectations are for the Israeli military. But
I like everybody should be outraged. There are protests cropping up,
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but these are they're arresting and detaining people who were
trying to bring fucking baby formula and like humanitarian aid,
humanitarian aid, purely humanitarian aid. So that's extremely frustrating. And
I think that the people who organized this were hoping
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that they could get aid to the starving people in Gaza.
But also we're aware that this is a possibility of
just like showing how nakedly fucked this enemy is and
how fucking awful they are, how like they will arrest
people and treat it like you're trying to smuggle heroin
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for trying to bring baby formula to starving infants.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, well, I mean it just shows you. I mean,
like when when the West, you know, the quote unquote
the West are like the former colonial powers are on
your side. It's one thing, right, That's why Ukraine is
getting support, right, because all these countries are sort of
like they're mostly in agreement that they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, Russia,
bad fight them, Here's here's stuff to fight them with.
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But with this, I'm sorry, like the idea of these
people like acknowledging the oppression and the apartheid state and
all that, like that's just it's just like a thing
they can't that's just a bridge they're not able to cross.
So now we have this like weird disjointed movement where
like some countries are like, yeah, fucking do something, but
also fuck man, maybe turned back.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Shit, it's hard and there's only a.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Few you're gonna make the mad stop. Yeah, you're gonna
undermine peace talks. Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Then you have the other nations who are very much
staunchly opposed in our vocal about it. But again because
of you know, they don't have the same standing as
like an America or a France or UK. You know,
it allows you know, Israel to keep doing this shit.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, I was listening to an interview with one of
the people on the flotilla, who is like the Spanish
and Italian support was seemed pretty lax, Like they were
like just so you know, if you guys get attacked,
we're like not engaging. We're just and we're probably not
going to be with you much longer because this is scary. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, we don't want to like get dragged into this,
like as a government. But good luck, good luck to you,
good luck to you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Finally, we want to say rip to Jane Goodall, legendary
primatologists who passed away at the age of ninety one
of Natural Causes, famous for living with chimpanzees. Her research
was pivotal and proving similarities in primate and human behavior.
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The video that's going viral is a footage of her
comparing Trump's behavior to male chimps, saying, quote, the same
sort of behavior as a male chimpanzee will show when
he is competing for dominance with another They're upright, they swagger,
they project themselves as really more large and aggressive than
they may actually be in order to intimidate their rivals.
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But also, like she you know, we like chimpanzees. I
feel like this is a disservice to her message for
this to be the thing that's going viral. Yeah. The
thing that I found it interesting that I did not know.
Our writer jam pointed out she was very open to
the idea of bigfoot go on.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Jane.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yes, she once said that during a trip to Ecuador,
locals recalled seeing six foot tall monkeys with no tails,
which she speculated could be the last of the Neanderthals.
This is super interesting. Like this is from the interview.
We'd flown for two solid hours over unbroken forest in
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a small plane, so just all forest to like think
of the most remote place you can imagine. We visited
four tiny little communities, thirty to fifty people, no roads.
They communicate with each other by means of like in
the old days it was a town crier. But they
are hunters and carry the news from one village to another,
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and letters and things like that. So I had an
interpreter and I said to him, when you next meet
one of these hunters, could you ask if they've ever
seen a monkey without a tail. Three of the hunters
came back and said, oh, yes, we've seen monkeys without tails.
They walk upright and they're about six feet tall. This
was an interpreter from the village. He knew nothing about Bigfoot,
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nothing at all. Every single country has its version Yei
Yawie in Australia, wild Man in China. So I don't
know if it's perhaps a myth that stems from maybe
the last of the Neanderthals. But then is the last
of the Neanderthals still living in these remote forests? And
then in another interview she said, there's something I don't
know what it is. I have throughout my life been
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very dismissive of people who believe in Bigfoot, and this
is very interesting that she's like, yeah, no, I've been
out there. There could totally be a Bigfoot, right. You know,
there's so much of the world, so much of the
oceans we always talk about, but even a lot of
like the world is pretty unexplored, you know. We we
have this. The one thing that I feel like I've
(26:10):
learned as I've gotten more, you know, read more and
lived more, is we have this myth that I had,
like when I first started, you know, coming out of
my like public school education, was that like we have
the world locked down. There's just like cameras ever we
know everything, we know what's going on everywhere, and it's
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just not true, just not true. There's so much mystery
out there.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I mean this definitely, that's that's a good that's a
good uh good coast sign from Jane good All.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's the best coast sign you could probably get.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And then I wonder how many people.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Are like fuck Jane. Yeah, I'm sure these are probably
the last two things she would want people.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, right, Like I mean, did anyone ever ask
her about the one hundred men versus a gorilla?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh, I'm sure, And I'm sure she didn't deign to.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
She'd be like, oh yeah, She's like, one hundred men
will get cooked. I wish they have no fucking chance.
She was. Actually, what's wild is she was going to
do a tree planting ceremony in Pasadena near Alta Dina
as like a way to sort of commemorate like the fires.
Oh wow, like this week. Yeah, and then like she
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just didn't passed away. It was just.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, well rip, what a life? Uh what a ledge
true ledge. Yeah. Those are some of the things that
are trending on this October second, Thursday afternoon. We are
back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,
get the vaccines where you still can't get your flu shots,
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don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to you all tomorrow. By bye.
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The phrase geist minds think all right.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Geist minds thick alike?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh right, yeah, yeah, it's probably.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
That I don't know, man, I'm I'm not paid to
know these phrases idioms. You didn't even know QuickTime player,
get I know, I'm I'm at a place where it
took me five seconds to remember the name of quick
time to open up the recording, even though we were
we recording QuickTime every day. Yeah. Yeah, some do, many,
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many do.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't use QuickTime. Just wll disclosure if I just
want to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Think you're better than me?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
All right it is make them a lot better than
October second, twenty twenty five. Yeah, those are our facts.
You are a lot better than me. My name is Jack.
That over there is mister Miles. Great.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, whoa, whoa, yes, let's go. What's trending?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I got him? I did to a art show opening
for Todd Gray by a friend who like works at
a gallery. Yeah. I was like the fun.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That's funny Ledge When is it. I don't even know
there's an opening in the new year. Oh shit, okay,
all right, I'll wake you up one September.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, please do all right, it's October. Oh shit, man,
wake me up when October ends. Also, just kind of
can we can we click this ship? Can we just
fast forward run through a couple of years here? All right?
What's happening in the news. The government shutdown is happening.
Donald Trump trying to be real shrewd with it, is
(01:47):
basically like I'll starve you to death.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, well, I mean, like it's just it's just retaliation.
There's a lot happening. The insistence on this is a
Democrats shutdown, Like there are mass emails going out, like
you know, because the Democrats are like fucking over or
like if you get a bounce back email, they're like,
due to the Democrats shutdown, we will be slow and
responding to da da da da da. He's really trying
to just sort of like seed that idea that this
is all at the responsibility of the Democrats because this
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is a lie. He's saying it's because they want to
give illegals health care, and that's the hill they want
to die on, So we're just going to have to
shit they then we have no choice. And to that end,
we are going to threaten thousands of federal workers with
layoffs too as a way basically just blackmailing the Democrats
to be like, we'll do it, Yeah, we'll do it.
(02:33):
We're fucking wacky man read Project twenty twenty five. So
he and Russell Vott are now using the shutdown to
just see how much damage they can inflict first, I think,
on blue states, to try and really upset the people
in those states, like by pulling all kinds of green
energy money that was supposed to go in there from
the Green New Deal. So pretty much any state that
didn't vote for him is seeing that money get pulled,
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along with a few other states with like other specific programs.
So that's kind of they're at that place now and
just trying to take it out on federal workers as
a way to try and bring Democrats to the table.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Just a hostage situation essentially.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, But it's just it's fucking crazy because you're talking
about the people that do the work, that even give
people the idea that things work. So then when there
aren't any people to sustain those agencies. That's going to
be that's going to manifest in chaos, and I'm sure
that's that is part of Project twenty twenty five is
(03:28):
to completely gut the federal government essentially.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Right, And so it just gives them an excuse.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But I think that's the other thing too, is like
doing that really close to I mean, while if we
have normal elections, you know, having like a government like
that is absolutely just not fucking working isn't a great look.
But for the people in power, yeah, they're really never
interested in, look what a good look is. So it's
(03:54):
just very you know, right now, it's starting with this
shit about being well, we're not going to give you
your windmil money, right, but I'm sure we'll. They're gonna
probably crank the heat up the more they realize how
much people are laying this at their feet, right.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And the Democrats are just being like no, uh, it's
a Trump shut down, and like it's just yeah, but
they're being.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Clear and being like this is this is not whatever
the fuck they're talking about. It's because they're gonna take
away all these healthcare subsidies and like your assurance tax credits,
like people, you know, they're giving examples of like, let's
say you're a sixty year old couple in Mike Johnson's
like the state of Louisiana, your your fucking premiums are
gonna go up like three hundred percent without some of
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these tax credits intact. So yeah, it's just a bunch
of screaming right now. As you know, this thing just
kind of grinds to a halt for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, great, great country, we got here, Yeah, killing it.
We're doing We're doing good work. Everything's functioning great. We do.
We did get a sense of like how they're talking
behind the scenes a little bit with a hot mic
moment from who what's this.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Reverend Madaline Dean Madeline Madelin Dean as a Democrat speaking
of Mike Johnson, pretty candid, the way that people might
speak to one another. Yeah, just cam him in the corner,
and you know, this is getting a lot of attention
because a lot of you'll just see she's like, what
the fuck's going on with the president? Basically yeah, and
this is Mike Johnson subconsciously agreeing with her by nodding
(05:27):
his head in agreement as she's talking, but then being
like well no, no, no, no. But here's this interaction that
was sort of happening off camera, but because the mic
was on, we got to sort of hear it all happen.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The president is unhinged, he is unwell. What are you
doing on your set?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Are too? I don't control?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Oh my god, please that performance in front of the
generals that it's so dangerous. You know, I serve on
foreign affairs and appropriations. This is a collision of those
two things. Our allies are looking elsewhere, our enemies are laughing. President,
she's a president who is unwell.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
A lot of folks on your side are two? Are two? Two?
As in I know you are.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That seems to be accepting that the president is out
of his mind, and then saying, well, you guys have
some like bad ones too, which seems like a real
oh my god, he admitted it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's what a lot of people are being like, Wait,
hold on. So when she goes he's unhinged, he's unwell,
and you said people on your side are too, is it?
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
This is yeah. I mean I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Her response after the like a lot of folks on
your side are too, it was like, oh my god, please.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I'm kind of here for this.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Wake the fuck up, dude, Like that's what it felt like?
That did you because you know he knows it's an
L because you said that performance in front of the
generals when.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He was just like, I didn't see it. You know,
they know it's an L when they say I didn't
see it. Yeah, I actually didn't watch that thing that
everybody's been talking about for the past twenty four hours
where the president spoke to the most powerful military figures
in the country. I actually, uh, didn't you follow up?
How did you think about that? Actually? So that was
(07:20):
the thing?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sorry, follow up your third in line to be president,
just so you know, and you you didn't see that?
So are you bad at your job? Also? Do you
want to see it now? And then you can tell.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Me what the fuck is up? Sure you want to
do that?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You want to try that shit out?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This did make me just wonder, like, why the fuck
aren't the Democrats talking like this in public? Was my
first thought, Like is it are they just standing on
decorum at this point where, like, you know, the lives
of people they represent are being violently upended, and they're like, well,
we can't be rude and say officially, like the prade is.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You know, e Nile, He's slipping into darkness, and.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'm yeah, I mean, families and communities are being torn
apart by government sanctioned kidnappings, and they're choosing to like
point out that the president is unhinged behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
See well, and this is where I'm maybe this is
they are keeping that same energy, because yesterday Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker,
in front of microphones was like the here, I'll just this.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is JB.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Pritzker at a press conference.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
It appears that Donald Trump not only has dementia set in,
but he's copying tactics of Vladimir Putin. Sending troops into cities,
thinking that that's some sort of proving ground for war
or that indeed there's some sort of internal war going
on in the United States. Is just frankly inane, and
(08:49):
I'm concerned for his health.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
He goes on to be like, yeah, you know, maybe
twenty fifth Amendment here, he might need to be removed
from office, right. I mean, I honestly think like the
concern trolling is probably a good tactic. Here is he okay?
Is he okay? Is he okay? Are you sure what
was that about? What was that about? I didn't see it.
Oh you should see it and then tell me what
(09:12):
that was about.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, just keep pressing yeah, because you can
only press.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They can only mitigate for so long, which they have
been doing. But it's also I think that I think
the people who are on the opposing side of it go,
oh yeah, let me ask a follow up question, because
it's clear to everyone on the left or who isn't
a Republican who's like a total sick event that he
has fucking cooked mentally.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, I don't know, Like, I think it's a good
way forward just to like, it's just the energy of it,
to just be like, this is not normal. Fuck, this
guy is like the energy of it. I don't know
if it's caused by senility or you know, moments of sinility,
or if the I don't know, like he just he's
still just barfing out the same shit. He's just worse
(09:59):
that and seems more tired and like scattered. Right.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Sure, but if you compare it to any person who
we would say is healthy and in their maybe middle age,
even they can say full sentences, they can connect ideas
like objectively, his speech is all it's like scatterbrained. Yes,
he was mistaking Albania for Armenia recently, Like he can't.
(10:23):
He doesn't get anything straight that is objectively not good.
And I think, you know, we're sort of like operating
in this thing where like everyone kind of knows, like, yeah,
this guy's kind of fucking something's wrong with him. But
I think Republicans it's easy for them like, oh, he's
he's a quirky, fun president. But if you kind of
(10:44):
keep insisting this is so different, this is like something
is wrong, like is he okay? I think it at
least shift the conversation to at least yeah, because the
framing is still the framing isn't that guy something's wrong
with him? The framing is he's kind of a weird guy.
That's kind of what we're operating in, and that needs
to conversation. If this kind of tactic is effective, it
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would shift it to what's wrong with him? And why
aren't you guys who are in his party doing something
about it? Because to leave him there is putting everyone
in grave danger. I mean, like already we are. But
I guess in terms of like rhetorically, how Democrats or
Republicans talk on the hill that would at least begin
to put more pressure on them explaining like why he's
(11:27):
posting weird shit. Caroline Levitt was asked about the medbed
video guy, and the press is like, what was he
trying to communicate with that video? He deleted it, but
what was he trying to communicate to that with that? Yeah,
and she just went on a version of like, he
likes to post memes and like stuff that he sees
that he likes, and isn't it refreshing? But then you
can be like, he was talking about technologies that don't exist.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right, that seems weird for the president to send a
video that says he's created a technology that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
That seems does he believe in it? Or what is
he implying by that that's that's aspirational for him?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What is the that you know politics much better than me?
What is the fourth that is stopping them from speaking
the way that she just spoke to him on a
hot mic that stopped them from saying they're weird? Is
that the consultants being like, if we're too mean, it
seems unlikable.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
What what's I mean there's always some version of like
because like the messaging gets so vetted, like if it's
coming from the party, like they're they're fucking in the
lab trying to be like what what what happens with
this group? BEFO, we're talking this way right? How is
how does this messaging poll with this group? I think
right now the reason is because I for what I mean,
(12:39):
like what we've seen is just that Democrats they're still
insistent on having this sense of like, well, we're not
going to I mean they were they were casting aspersions
on Joe Biden's mental acuity, right, and and that's just
that's just really unbecoming.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So there's so so you should have cast dispersions on
Joe Biden's mental acuity?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Dumb fucks. That's what I mean that I would be effective.
We'll be like, hey, guys, you know we should have
actually acted sooner, right, and you know what, and now
we're telling you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We're coming off a massive mistake that we made and
we're worried, like it's like you can't have the same
exact thing happened two times in a row and not
catch it, like the same shit has happened.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think the other thing too, is they don't want
to start doing the like he's he's got dementia thing,
because then the Republicans just cook up some fake doctor's
note and be like.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Right, guys are like you guys are Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That's why I'm saying, like, just adjust it a little
bit and go yeah, okay, a little tweak, Yeah that
all right.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
The energy is important to me. I don't think that
this is like the only way forward, being No, I
don't think they'll be able to just like, you know,
work around that. I do think journalists should be changing,
Like you said, they should be asking follow up questions
in a very reserve way that uh forces him, especially
to think on his feet if they're continuing to make
(13:59):
him a bit to the media, which I guess they
don't do that often. But when you have that opportunity,
go in knowing that you were this is both an
attempt to like get information but also an attempt to
give him a public like neurological exam, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, and get them he would have them to articulate
a defense of it too, because half the time it
just doesn't make sense. Although you know, I think a
lot of people they they do just see him as
quirky or whatever. You know that are like that are
his fans, because really they just like to see you know,
they're like, I just want to drink liberal tears.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and you can find little moments where he says
something that seems to make sense. It's just yeah, you know,
when taken in the hole. Anybody who has you know,
lived with or had a loved one who suffered from
dementia recognizes the energy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And it's more like you got to it's more about
putting pressure on the sick of fans, Yeah, in the House,
in the Senate and in the cabinet to be like, yo,
you're good with this, yo, this you this you you know,
like more more so about making a person individually account
for what that what how they're seeing it. Like that's
(15:13):
why Mike Johnson got so uncomfortable because she was She
was like, what's going on with him? What do you
think about this? And he's like, well, you know, you
guys do it too.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's just wild that he didn't know the very basic
rules of like how you respond to a playground insult.
He was like, you know, uh, you seem like so
stupid that like I'm I'm actually worried about you. And
he's like, well, you are too. Yeah. It's like, no,
(15:44):
you say, I know you are, but what am I
You're not? You're You're not supposed to include you, dip shit.
We're both really dumb. Yeah, I know, but you are too.
We're both dumb as fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Okay, right, man, let's just get to it.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Header gut. You are bad at this header gun man,
Jesus Christ, fucking sucker, dick man, don't beat me up.
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
(16:23):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We're back.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And there's this new order named NSPM seven. Oh yeah,
did we touch on that yesterday on Monday?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
On Monday, just basically talking about yeah, like the new
directive to make anything anti traditional, anti Christian, anti capitalism,
anti America.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's pretty indicator for terrorism. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
it's basically I don't know. So this Time Magazine article
just lays it out. The Trump administration is facing mounting
criticism over a sweeping directive that expands the government's definition
of domestic terrorism indicators to include a wide range of
political beliefs, with lawmakers and civil liberties groups warning it
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could be used to criminalize descent. It could be used
to criminalize descent. The wording is it directs the FBI's
Joint Terrorism Task Force to investigate networks, entities, and organizations
that foment political violence, and identifies ideological markers such as
anti Americanism, anti capitalism, and anti Christianity as red flags.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
There's another thing too, that said extreme views on gender
or extreme views on immigrants. Basically, if you know, it's
essentially whatever, if you guys are if you're not on
board with this, then you were going to label you
as some kind of terrorist to you know, bring back
this new McCarthyism.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I mean, I've always said Time magazine as a garbage publication.
But to claim that this could be used to criminalize descent,
it is the Criminalizing Descent bill. It is the explicit, Like,
how could it be any more explicit? Like that's like
saying a handgun that is pointed at your head could
be used to shoot you. That's the whole fucking reason
(18:06):
it's there. Yeah, like what what other things? Well, so
you're saying it could be used what other things could
it be used for?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, it is specifically a weapon to make it so
they can arrest trans people or people who are critical
of fucking capitalism.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it's like, I mean, the order itself is just
very wacky, and it's like sort of it's doing this
whole thing of like there's all these foreign money coming
in because a lot I was reading a lot of
people who talk about like Farah enforcement, you know, the
Foreign Agents Registration Act, Like they're trying to use that
to try and say like if there are affinity groups
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or advocacy groups that are receiving money from anything that
could be tied to like like a foreign country or
foreign national, Yeah, that they're going to try and use
that to be like, oh, we have foreign people trying
to affect like, you know, the conversation in this country
by backing these groups or whatever. So I was reading
about like lawyers who work with certain groups that you
know could be seen as quote unquote being in the
(19:09):
part of this, like you know, a terroristic group that
they should really be looking over because seems like maybe
like foreign money is going to be an inroad with
how they try and legally fuck people over too, like
to start yeah with like these like you know, larger
organizations to be like why are you getting money from
this person who lives out of the country. Oh, that's strange.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
In this global economy.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just really it's interesting.
I mean, it's not interesting. It's just very confusing because
like legally, like all the people who read it, they're like, like, legally,
this documents all over the place, but they're also like,
at the same time, the government is using nothing but
like legally dubious arguments to fuck with people right now.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, So in that way, it's like hard to know
how this actually ends up like manifesting.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It seems bad, it seems no, no, it is I mean,
like to articulate it already to be like, if you
do not believe Jesus Christ is the Savior and money
is his rest, the greenback is his father, you will
go away for whatever or lose.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Everything or whatever. They you know, decide to punish it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
They were annoyed that they only had to take Jimmy
Kimmel off the air. They were wishing they could just
arrest him, you know. The update on the Gods of
flotilla is that it has been intercepted by the Israeli Navy,
who detained hundreds of activists and arrested them with no
(20:35):
right to do so in any way, And I mean,
that's really it's very depressing. And then like I'm also
really depressed to report that I was like half relieved
that they didn't murder them all. That's like where the
fucking where my expectations are for the Israeli military. But
I like everybody should be outraged. There are protests cropping up,
(20:59):
but these are they're arresting and detaining people who were
trying to bring fucking baby formula and like humanitarian aid,
humanitarian aid, purely humanitarian aid. So that's extremely frustrating. And
I think that the people who organized this were hoping
(21:19):
that they could get aid to the starving people in Gaza.
But also we're aware that this is a possibility of
just like showing how nakedly fucked this enemy is and
how fucking awful they are, how like they will arrest
people and treat it like you're trying to smuggle heroin
(21:40):
for trying to bring baby formula to starving infants.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, well, I mean it just shows you. I mean,
like when when the West, you know, the quote unquote
the West are like the former colonial powers are on
your side. It's one thing, right, That's why Ukraine is
getting support, right, because all these countries are sort of
like they're mostly in agreement that they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, Russia,
bad fight them, Here's here's stuff to fight them with.
(22:06):
But with this, I'm sorry, like the idea of these
people like acknowledging the oppression and the apartheid state and
all that, like that's just it's just like a thing
they can't that's just a bridge they're not able to cross.
So now we have this like weird disjointed movement where
like some countries are like, yeah, fucking do something, but
also fuck man, maybe turned back.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Shit, it's hard and there's only a.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Few you're gonna make the mad stop. Yeah, you're gonna
undermine peace talks. Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Then you have the other nations who are very much
staunchly opposed in our vocal about it. But again because
of you know, they don't have the same standing as
like an America or a France or UK. You know,
it allows you know, Israel to keep doing this shit.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, I was listening to an interview with one of
the people on the flotilla, who is like the Spanish
and Italian support was seemed pretty lax, Like they were
like just so you know, if you guys get attacked,
we're like not engaging. We're just and we're probably not
going to be with you much longer because this is scary. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, we don't want to like get dragged into this,
like as a government. But good luck, good luck to you,
good luck to you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Finally, we want to say rip to Jane Goodall, legendary
primatologists who passed away at the age of ninety one
of Natural Causes, famous for living with chimpanzees. Her research
was pivotal and proving similarities in primate and human behavior.
(23:36):
The video that's going viral is a footage of her
comparing Trump's behavior to male chimps, saying, quote, the same
sort of behavior as a male chimpanzee will show when
he is competing for dominance with another They're upright, they swagger,
they project themselves as really more large and aggressive than
they may actually be in order to intimidate their rivals.
(23:59):
But also, like she you know, we like chimpanzees. I
feel like this is a disservice to her message for
this to be the thing that's going viral. Yeah. The
thing that I found it interesting that I did not know.
Our writer jam pointed out she was very open to
the idea of bigfoot go on.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Jane.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yes, she once said that during a trip to Ecuador,
locals recalled seeing six foot tall monkeys with no tails,
which she speculated could be the last of the Neanderthals.
This is super interesting. Like this is from the interview.
We'd flown for two solid hours over unbroken forest in
(24:39):
a small plane, so just all forest to like think
of the most remote place you can imagine. We visited
four tiny little communities, thirty to fifty people, no roads.
They communicate with each other by means of like in
the old days it was a town crier. But they
are hunters and carry the news from one village to another,
(25:02):
and letters and things like that. So I had an
interpreter and I said to him, when you next meet
one of these hunters, could you ask if they've ever
seen a monkey without a tail. Three of the hunters
came back and said, oh, yes, we've seen monkeys without tails.
They walk upright and they're about six feet tall. This
was an interpreter from the village. He knew nothing about Bigfoot,
(25:25):
nothing at all. Every single country has its version Yei
Yawie in Australia, wild Man in China. So I don't
know if it's perhaps a myth that stems from maybe
the last of the Neanderthals. But then is the last
of the Neanderthals still living in these remote forests? And
then in another interview she said, there's something I don't
know what it is. I have throughout my life been
(25:48):
very dismissive of people who believe in Bigfoot, and this
is very interesting that she's like, yeah, no, I've been
out there. There could totally be a Bigfoot, right. You know,
there's so much of the world, so much of the
oceans we always talk about, but even a lot of
like the world is pretty unexplored, you know. We we
have this. The one thing that I feel like I've
(26:10):
learned as I've gotten more, you know, read more and
lived more, is we have this myth that I had,
like when I first started, you know, coming out of
my like public school education, was that like we have
the world locked down. There's just like cameras ever we
know everything, we know what's going on everywhere, and it's
(26:32):
just not true, just not true. There's so much mystery
out there.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I mean this definitely, that's that's a good that's a
good uh good coast sign from Jane good All.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's the best coast sign you could probably get.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And then I wonder how many people.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Are like fuck Jane. Yeah, I'm sure these are probably
the last two things she would want people.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, right, Like I mean, did anyone ever ask
her about the one hundred men versus a gorilla?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh, I'm sure, And I'm sure she didn't deign to.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
She'd be like, oh yeah, She's like, one hundred men
will get cooked. I wish they have no fucking chance.
She was. Actually, what's wild is she was going to
do a tree planting ceremony in Pasadena near Alta Dina
as like a way to sort of commemorate like the fires.
Oh wow, like this week. Yeah, and then like she
(27:22):
just didn't passed away. It was just.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, well rip, what a life? Uh what a ledge
true ledge. Yeah. Those are some of the things that
are trending on this October second, Thursday afternoon. We are
back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,
get the vaccines where you still can't get your flu shots,
(27:46):
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to you all tomorrow. By bye.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
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