Ghislaine To The Rescue? Shrooms = Invincibility Hack! 07.31.25

In episode 1906, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Lydia Popovich, to discuss… Ghislaine Maxell Asking For Immunity to Testify? Life May Be In Danger? Maybe Not, Trump Says He Fell Out With Epstein Because He Was ‘Stealing’ Spa Workers, CALLED IT: Shrooms Will Make You Live Forever… and more!

1. Ghislaine Maxwell Denied Immunity to Testify Before Congress
2. Ghislaine Maxwell’s Life May Be at Risk in Prison: Author
3. Trump Says He Fell Out With Epstein Because He Was ‘Stealing’ Spa Workers
4. Did Trump Just Confess He Learned about Virginia Giuffre before Jeffrey Epstein Recruited Someone Else at Mar-a-Lago?
5. CALLED IT: Shrooms Will Make You Live Forever…

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
How's how's the effort on getting the airport renamed gone?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We're in a little bit of.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
A stall right now, and I think that's okay, yes,
but no, it kind of lost a little bit of
movement because we started having gnarly ice raids here and
it just felt kind of, to be frank with you,
it just felt kind of like a silly thing to
talk about and try to get people's attention when people
are like being ripped out of their homes and restaurants
like it was. It's been really bad here and just

(00:32):
really shitty.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Is she on board with it?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Like?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is she?

Speaker 5 (00:36):
So?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
She's publicly like talked about it on three separate occasions,
which is hilarious, but she's basically like the first time
when it came out, she kind of said, she's like, oh,
that's I don't think that's a real thing. I think
that's more of a joke. And then the second time
she got asked about it, she was like, yeah, She's like,
I guess it's real. There's a petition going around and
people are thinking about it. She's like, I still think
it's silly, Like why would you name it after me?

(00:56):
And then she even like commented on the catchphrase that
we made up for. It was like, it does sound
kind of fun to say you're departing from parton. She's like,
that is this is pretty rad. And then she did
it on Good Morning America too, where she's like we
love yeah, but she's doing that cooy ship where she's like, oh,
I think it's more than a joke than anything else.
But I have I have meet and great tickets to
see her in Las Vegas in December, so I will

(01:18):
be telling her to her face. Hi, I started that petition,
and babe, it's not a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
What do I need to seriously look at my eyes? Yeah,
do I look like I'm joking.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'm not fucking around. Stop saying it's a joke.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
You got me fucked up, Dolly.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm not on the watch list for no reason, bitch.
Come on, this is your attempt to get off the
watch list.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Right to give me off this list?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty nine. Nope,
three ninety nine, God damn, almost four hundred miles. It's
gonna be a big season, four hundred yest week excited
for it.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yep, I'll be there. You sure will. So planned ahead.
I'll be there with Bells.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
On episode four of Daily Guys. It's a production of iHeartRadio.
It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into
america shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, July thirty first,
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Fuck man, it's our August eve. I thought it was.
It was just fourth of July. I mean it's already, man,
fuckuck really, bro.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
The July seems like it was yesterday. That's the passage
of time.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Man. Anyway, It's National Avocado Day, National Chili Dog Day,
National mutt Day. A a shout out all the mixed
blood people or I guess this is the dogs they're
talking about. Hey, if you if you straddle multiple ethnicities,
it's also your day. Fuck the caneines. Also National Raspberry
Cake Day. I didn't even know that was a thing
a cake. I mean, it'll make sense for me.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I knew it was possible, I didn't know it was
an iconic thing that deserved its own day. But maybe
maybe there's a big raspberry cake community out there just
trying to get the word out.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah. Probably.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I like those little you know, those like tins full
of like dry ass cookies, you know where there's just
like a bunch of different like butter cookies that are.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, the thing that becomes every immigrant mother's sewing kits exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's not just everybody, that's everyone.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
The one really good cookie is I think has a
little raspberry jelly in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I hate, I hate that one.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You don't like that one?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I fucking hate whenever I'm eating a cookie, I don't
like fruit flavors in it or chocolate or get that
ship away from a pure I like, I don't like
a fucking ras chocolate cookies. No, I'm fine, Okay, I'm
fine with a chopped chip cookie. No fruit filling, Like,
I don't like fruit filling. I don't want like a cookie,
you don't want fruit filling in it?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, Like I like a straight up truffle. It's weird.
I'm like a sort of do.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know you don't like those chocolate covered cherries?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I never even had one? Then the idea, Wow, I
won't even respond to the question because I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I've never had one, and I won't dignify straight all Right.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Gaylaene is Epstein's girl.
We're doing another Uptown girl couldn't live long in that
prison world. Now she'll turn coat for that Trump be
guy so she can make a deal and maybe not die.

(04:44):
I'll tell you why that one courtesy of j mcadoozie.
I think that's how we're j m akadoozy. I'm allowing
to say that, but there's really there's no wrong way
to say that one. Anything ending with kadoozy, I feel
like just kind of rips mm hmmm, jacket doozy. I

(05:05):
take that as an AKA whack guy's wack adoozy. Anyways,
thank you j mcadoozy for that one. We will talk
about Gilaine in her situation in prison, whether she is
in fact going to die. Mh I'm thrilled to be
joined as always by my co host mister Miles Gray.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Miss Miles Gray AKA so no one told you life
was gonna be this way? Had old files, news one,
quick Use, Bondies, d o J, the lists at least
as bad as it appears when it hasn't been the gay,
the woke, drag queens. But it's all your peer, So

(05:47):
I'll be there for you when Gilaine starts super I'll
be there for you.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
The island been there before, all right anyway, shout out
to Evil Timmy on the discord A wonderful Friends theme
just just great, great, easy, easy, breezy.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I feel like you said a chorus like you were
expecting me to come in for a harmony, and I
might have let you down there.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, no, not at all.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Oh, okay, got it.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I don't know if that's offensive, but Jack, I was
never expecting armony.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You did great job. Miles were thrilled to be joined
in air third seat by a hilarious comedian. One of
our favorite guests on TVZ, Dave Grohl, once touched arm
and said, hey, you're pretty funny. You can see her
on stages everywhere, including upcoming shows in San Francisco, Birmingham, Alabama, Nashville.

(06:38):
It's the wickedly talented Lydia Popa Behil.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Helloou you really had me when you were talking about
no chocolate fruit. I was just as confused as Jack.
I was like, does this motherfucker not like a chocolate
chip cookie? Is he telling me he is.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Like no chocolate in cookies? I was about to end
the podcast. Did you know that?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I was literally about to be like.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
Fuck, you're like everything on this station left.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
You're a snickerdoodle, fucking sugar cookie? Only bread? Are you
only almond cookies? I was like, fuck off.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
That mean terrible? No, no, no, I'm I wasn't good
at wording that. When I have a box of chocolates,
you don't want any fruit in there? Nope, So you
don't like chocolate cover raisins?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Not really see, I don't think that's a good representation.
I think your chocolate covered cherry was a great representation.
Like I love a chocolate cherry. I recently destroyed a
whole bag of them that I got from Costcar.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Are those fresh or this is a candy? Like they're
like like a fresh like a chocolate dip strawberry.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Know what covered cherry is? You need to walk you
through a series. I feel like it's the most classic
of the like box of chocolate chocolates is a chocolate
covered cherry, which is like kind of floating in a
liqueur like there's there's mother. Oh I've had you. I

(08:10):
know that one.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, that one feels like you've eaten like a rotten
egg or something. I mean a picture of like yeah,
like again, I just I have weird. The mother flavors
not I don't like. I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
The harmony with the fruit isn't always my favorite thing
as a chocolate Like I'll eat a chocolate strawberry Like
that's that's a different thing.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, and that's why it's like I get like, there's
fresh chocolate strawberries. There's fresh like caramel apples. So like,
I guess I understand why a cherry you could assume
that might be fresh. However, No, it's usually dried or
it's usually to Jack's point, it's been steeped in a
liqueur which has been gooped up and then chocolate. So
you have like a like a sensory experience.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
God damn, I have a sensory experience with that description
really very like very alcohol. Yeah, that one, you know,
there's like to booth. There's certain foods that like when
I was a kid, I was like that one tastes funny,
but I like it. You know, it's because it's like whiskey. Yeah,

(09:10):
a bunch of whiskey in that chocolate.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
I remember being probably like five or six and someone
had given my dad one of those like little Christmas
boxes that has like the actual liquor bottles that are
full of liquor, so it would be like queer vou jack,
Like it had all the little labels on it, and
it had like whatever, two drops of actual liquor in it. Sure,
and I didn't know. I just was like, hey, let
me be sneaky. These are five chocolates. I think I

(09:33):
can get away with eating and no one's going to
notice house them all. And was definitely fucked up, Like
for sure they.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Were chocolates with the actual liquor inside.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
What was the actual liquor inside?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And I did that sounds like that seems like it's
a method made like that, that is a product designed
by some secret cabal of trying to get children ship face.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well, I mean, you know, it was the early eighties,
you know what I mean. I was born in the
late seventies. So like they were doing all kinds of
crazy shit. I mean, they were giving us candy cigarettes
that actually puffed smokeouts. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
We're trying to get that disconstruction dust in a tube,
like look at this slow, Like that's as best as y'all.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
They also still sold cigarettes, inventing machines that you could
literally put quarters into it, like.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
With the fucking pull thing too. I remember, I remember
high school. I remember I got my mom to buy
a pack of cigarettes because she was like, because I
want to I want to pull the things. She's like,
I don't smoke. I'm like please.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Those arms that like distributed the cigarettes were also the
same arms that come on pinball machines, like you know,
for some reason, Yeah, they're made by the same people.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
A good time.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's like shoes worn by priests and referees. They're they're
the same shoes randomly for some reason.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Disgusting.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
All right Lydia, We're thrilled to have you. We're going
to get to know you a little to be here
in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners
a couple of things we're talking about. We are going
to talk about Gilaine, Gilaine Maxwell, just where she's at.
Did she ask for immunity to testify? She did? She did,
But but you already going forward. She did get she
did get her case of Like I thought you guys

(11:20):
were like supposed to have not been mad at me
about this in front of the Supreme Court, which was
pretty I don't know that that was a pretty quick turnaround. Also,
her life maybe in danger, according to one of the
investigative journalists in Florida who kind of first broke the
Epstein case and got people aware of that. So we're

(11:41):
going to talk about that. We're going to talk about
Trump just once again nailing his attempts to throw water
on the flames of the of this by saying that
the reason he fell out with Epstein was because he
was stealing workers from him.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's very euphemistic.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Work.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm trying to I'm trying to doubt this inferno with gasoline,
and it won't go out.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
He was stealing little the guy who you're talking about,
who you're I'm getting in trouble for being associated with,
who's a sexual predator. I'm I was mad at him
because he was stealing children from me who I was employing.
Is that a good Is that a good angle? And

(12:28):
also the timeline doesn't really make sense, so that that
was actually not the thing they got in mad. It's
the thing that he claimed like he was like, maybe
this will be a good lie to tell you he's
he's really lost his bearings on how to lie to
his base. So we'll talk about that. And also the
fact that he is considering pardoning did he combs allegedly just.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's such a good that's such a good look for
him right now?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
What solid look? Right? What from you know anything else?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I think that his anti black racism streak would be
like go hard on Diddy to try and make yourself
look like you're protecting people and then be.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like, well maybe they were kind of wild. I think
he's just so inherently a pedophile that and like a
sexual predator that he just like can't yes feel weird.
He has to be like, well, you know, I'd have
to look at the what would actually happen, but you know,
if it's not fair what was done to him, Like
that's literally how he's talking about. He's just like I can't,

(13:33):
I can't accept this. And he did like get out
of the Access Hollywood tape by just like steering into
the curve, like the way he does with racism, where
everyone's like, oh my god, he said the racist thing.
Now he's in trouble, and he just like doubles down
on it, and it's like, oh, but America is racist
and they vote for him. He has had success doing

(13:53):
that with being a sexual predator in the past, So
I feel like maybe he's staking being a pedophile and
sexual predator as like a thing that he can just
get away with by being like a what what can
I say? I do like the fonds, like welfare worlds boss. Yeah,

(14:19):
I don't keep watching recently. I feel like that's why
it popped into your head in the first place, was
because we're seeing a lot of at me.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, let me do something totally abhorrent in public, and
then hopefully I can just a my way out of it.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Anyways, he's trying to a his way out of it.
So we'll talk about all that plenty more. But first Lydia,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Richard Simmons state sale auction something I googled, Wow mid
time last week. The late great Richard Simmons. He passed
away at some point last here, and in the last
two weeks his personal belongings have gone up at auctions.
The first auction was at Bottoms, which is a very
hoity toy, very fancy institution all the good rich people.

(15:11):
When you die, you want your shit to go to Bontoms.
That was the first one that I looked at. I
did purchase two items from said auction, and then a
secondary one. We'll get there, yeah, And then a secondary
auction popped up after the first Bottoms one closed. It
was absolutely like the second waveyard sale version that was
just like, oh, here's just a bunch of random shit
we found in boxes, like all the stuff that was

(15:33):
in yeah, like not even that, just like, Hey, did
you want some dealer meal cards that are kind of
like water logged? We got those. Did you want a
case full of VHS tapes that never sold? Got them?
Just like weird chochkeys are like, Hey, this glass clown?
Did you want this? I got that for you?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Tied. He was probably trying to get rid of at
the end, like literally trash.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, just like, hey, here's shit I can't throw away
because I've got too much of it. People will know, Hey,
Richard Simmons threw away all his tapes, like you know
what I mean? Like, how do I know this shit?
But the first auction, the Bottoms auction, was full of treasures,
lots of treasures. We're talking all of his tank tops,
like all of his outfits, with the matching glasses and
his shorts. We're talking about the slim In sign that

(16:18):
was on the Slimmon's building itself, which I actually went
to and took a class with Richard Simmons a year
to the day that I won my auction, in fact
or for fourteen years to the day, I should say,
from when I won my auction. He used to have
a studio in Beverly Hills that was incredible to go to.
It was a fucking experience, like I don't know if
I would call it a workout more than just like
you're just standing there just like pretending to do the

(16:40):
moves as you watch Richard just bounce around the room
and like sexually assault people. It was incredible love it
could not recommend it more. I'm so glad I did it.
I went twice. It was fantastic. But he actually had
a lot of incredible arts. So I purchased art from
the Surrillis sculptor Sergio Bustamante, who's still a living artist.
He's a Mexican born art He's incredible. He does a

(17:01):
lot of fantasy sort of meets Mexican folklore work. All
of this shit's super weird. It'll be like, you know,
like a moon with a weird human face, or like.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
It's just bliesque sort of yeah sculpture.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Okay, yeah, he's a surrealist for a real So I
bought and the first thing that I got was these
two sons that are basically like these like beautiful sons,
and they're making different expressions and they have weird hands.
And then the second thing I bought, and I did
not realize how big it was until after I won

(17:37):
the auction. And now I am really nervous because it's
a very delicate sculpture, but it is this awesome deer
that's painted like blue and pink, and it looks very
whimsical and fantasy, and then it has the creepiest human
face ever. And I live out in the woods. We
have lots of deers. There's antlers all over my house.
We've talked about the amplification of my house. You know,

(18:00):
the property is called deer Ridge, so like it fit.
I was like, oh, I need this deer in my life.
But this year I have found out since that it
is three feet high and two feet wide. Like it's
a it's a it's a whole thing. A whole ass sculpture.
So now I have to figure out. I'm waiting for
Bottoms to tell me how much it's going to cost
to ship this delicate surrealist sculpture from Los Angeles to

(18:22):
the backwoods of Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, if not, great road trip movie for you.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
And looking literally culture right, it is very cool?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Are super outdoor? No, it's important. Yeah, I'm gonna do
an indoor. It's super delicate. It may or may not
be completely made of paper mache. That's what I've been
trying to research and found out a lot of his
works were in paper mache. So now I'm just I
should have read it more. I should have read the
description more carefully. But sure, guys, gales, Uh, if you're
ever in an auction, don't get caught up. Read the detail.

(18:56):
Just read the little things like dimensions. I should have.
I just assumed it was like a figurine, and absolutely
it is not. It is a giant sculpture. But now
I'm kind of more excited about it because like, this
is gonna be cool, Like this is and it was
in his personal gym, and like all the things he
really loved the most were in his personal gym. So
it's just loaded up with Richard Simmons good vibe. So
I can't wait. But yeah, what does that say about me?

(19:18):
I like Cirella Start, I like Mexican sculptors, I love
eclectic weirdos from the nineteen seventies. I love gay men
and I want to be riding on them daily. So
I can't wait for the sculpture to get here. And
when people go what the fuck is that, I'm like, well, oh,
Richard Simmons, Yeah, I love your heir, what is that.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's it's kind a very serene, creepy. Yes, it looks
like something from the beginning of one of the White Lotus.
Oh truth, like you know, the animal with human face,
human with animal energy, things that were happening you love.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
There's so many Sergeant pieces, and.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
He loved Davante. Yeah, and I'm a big fan of
Gustavante as well, and his stuff is quite expensive and
hard to come by. So I was just excited to
like get stuff that was by an artist that I liked,
owned by an eclectic figure that I also like.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, wonderful, by the way, just to say.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
It's great. I can't wait to see how my dogs
are going to react to this three foot sculpture of
a deer with a face on it, like, I'm pretty
sure that deer is the same size as my candy corso,
so they're going to be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah he was this guy was this guy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
But yeah, so yeah, that was my search history.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
What is was something he thinks underrated?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Easy? I came up with this yesterday. I was thinking
about it as I was doing it and enjoying it.
I was on my porch going for my uh my evening,
my my every evening smoke session. My, Hey, you finished
your chores, sit down, get high, take a load off,
and uh I remember that you can put ice in
a bong and ooh, going back, I think we've all

(21:01):
forgotten number one. Most of us have forgotten about bong.
HiT's not me. Your girl stays true, you know. I
I love a big, awkward glass bong. I like smoking
like I did when I was nineteen. There's something really
nice about it. I got a big old glass bong
by a company called wamp it uh and it and
their videos are great for their stuff because it's all
about you can womp it and it won't break, like

(21:22):
it's thick as.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'm looking at a wamp it.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, okay, breaks constantly. So these things are the only
bongs that I have not broken. I shout outs to
wamp It. Literally, if you are a boon breaker, get
a wamp I have them in two sizes and it's great.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
But yeah, the same toy manufacturers that made skip It No,
that toy from the eighties.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Pop it itep it, wamp it, yeah, wamp it, pass it.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean, if you've got a.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Nice glass bomb that has some like, you know, you
got to have a little indents so that the gap,
you know, it doesn't fallow way down to your stem.
But if you feel the thing up with ice and
it gets frosty, it's like literally, icy bong hits are
like the digital or i'm sorry, like the stoner equivalent
of a frosty beer mug. Like everybody loves a beer.
A cold beer is great, a cold glass is great,
but a frosty mug the fuck out of here. So

(22:15):
the fuck out of here. That's quite incredible.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Do you ever put glass in your stooding or ice
in your stooding glass?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I have?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, okay, I was gonna say that I was doing that.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I have, Yeah, I definitely have. It doesn't have the
same hit though, because like right now where I'm in
the South, it's extremely hot outside and my house is
very air conditioned, so when I take that bong outside,
it frosts up from the difference. So you're holding a
frosty bong and it's like the air is cold, the

(22:43):
smoke is cold, like the thing is cold. Like it's
a whole visceral experience.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I get it, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And then you also know when it's time to come
back inside because the ice starts melting and you're like,
we're done here, We're done here. And then you get
back inside and you get back to business, and you know,
you make your family tacos.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm doing the Google auto complete research. Putting ice in
dot dot dot bom bong is number three on the
low what's number one, right behind putting ice in front
of a fan?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh yep, that's a that's a very low, low, low
cost way to get an air conditions conditioner.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
The next one sounds like a way to start a
terrible structure.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, putting ice in a fryer don't great. You're gonna
just have fucking hot grease popping off everywhere.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
That's not number two, is it?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
That is number two? Is putting ice in a fryer
ahead of putting ice in a bung. I think you
do the first one to cool down, you do the
second one to give yourself problems, and then you do
the third one, putting ice in a bung to help
alleviate those problems.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Why you wait for the ambulance to come.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I don't exact putting ice in garbage disposal, I don't
know what that could possibly do. But putting ice in
toilet too clean? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Interesting one I clean your toilet?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Is that because they go to a bar and you.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
You have seen the ice in the urinal and been like, oh,
maybe that must be for a reason and not just
because the bar had extra ice to get rid of.
And it's kind of like a fun vibe. Yeah, well
yeah whatever, Hey ice and a bomb though, Yeah, what
do you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Okay? Summering in summer? Right, Like everybody loves to travel
in the summer. Oh, let's go somewhere in the summer, Like,
you know, everybody travels around. Everyone's on vacation. Like if
you work at a day job, like July is like
a ghost town and if you're like the only loser
that didn't like book in advance, you're sitting there working
and everyone's like in Italy and fucking you know, Greece,

(24:41):
and you know, me and my family went here, and
everyone's summering in the goddamn summer. That shit is overrated.
It's too fucking hot to be summering in the summer.
There's too many people around, I say, summer in September,
the kids have gone back to school, Grandma and Grandpa
are back on the program. Everyone's out of their leave,
you know what I mean, Like it's just September.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Everyone is you.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Know, everyone in Europe has gone back to work, you
know what I mean. Everyone in Europe gets August off.
So they're just fucking fucking around and going everywhere. So
it's like, wait to September, Wait to September.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Low season.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
It starts getting cooler, it gets warmned real then you
can actually enjoy it. Like how many times you're like, oh,
I'm gonna go with my family to like the amusement
park and you come home just fucking sunburned, pissed, and
it's like, yeah, because it's too fucking hot to be
outside for eight hours? What are we doing? You should
I be doing this. We should be inside. You should
be out for twenty minutes and then get your ass
back inside and then But you can't do that because
you wasted you know. No, no, no, I spent twelve hundred

(25:34):
dollars to be here this weekend. I'm go, and that's
I'm going to give myself cancer having fun in this sun.
So I say, you know what I mean, Hell yeah,
take a walk in the summer. Wait till September, you
know what I mean. But don't everybody start doing that
because I want a summer in September. You keep your
summer ass in fucking August July. I'm gonna say, September
summery in the summer is what I believe. Y'all keep

(25:56):
doing that.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's good. And yeah,
so I'm talking about it. Also, put your kids out
of school once in a while and go to the
amusement park. You'll have my time. Oh my god, yes,
Like those are some of my greatest memories. They are
just like days that my dad was like, you know,
you don't have to go to schools.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Ever, had that ship never the one time my mom
let me skip school for like non you are ill.
Reason was because Hitdeo Nomo threw a no hitter against
the Colorado Rockies.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I mean yeah, and sports related to it was the
first two days of the n C Double A Tournament.
It was moment. It was a national holiday for our family.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I remember took Like I told mom was like
no more through a no hitter. I'm like, I don't
want to go to school tomorrow. She's like okay, And
I was like, yo, yes, Japanese baseball based fucking wins
for me. No hittersnow day, Yeah, exactly, no day. No, No,
I'll never forget that. I'll never forget it. On the
run a Rockies, pull your kids out and go I'm

(27:02):
gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's my shipment right now is when my kids are
back in school in September, I am pulling them out
of school one day and taking them to knots Ery Farm.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Dude, that's great.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
We were put onto how great knots Very Farm was
by Caitlin Dorante, I believe. And we haven't gone because
it's been summer and it's going to be crowded every
fucking day. But once everybody's back in school. I'm going
to combine to great takes by two great comedians and
go to Knotsberry Farm, but not in the summer.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I love it. You're doing it right. You're doing it right.
You mean you're being cool. My dad didn't believe in
the man, so I didn't have to go to school
if I didn't want to for the most part, and
he would pull me out all the time for weird reasons,
to be like, you want to go for a drive
and I'm like, but I gotta go to school. He's like, well,
you want to go to school, you want to go
for a drive. And I'd be like, all right, cool,
I want to go for a drive. And I thought
we'd be doing something cool, and we'd really just be
like driving to my uncle's house in Union City, and

(27:54):
I'm like, how is what? Why did we come here?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Why are we here?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I thought we were doing something cool and like, And
then years later I came to found out it was
usually he was taking long drives to go by weed
or hash or some sort of drug run. That just
seemed better if you had a child with you, because
that's responsible parenting.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, that is Yeah, it's harder to you got
to be low in the car taking my kid.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, she's yeah, yeah, yeah, don't look at her purse.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
It's even on a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
She hasn't taken into account that that the cop might
be like, why isn't she school?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
What school is she in school? Hard knocks officer? Can
we can we go?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
We'll go on over with what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Is a harassing her?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Man?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
She just got back from Iraq.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Listen, she learned about kilograms the hard way today.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Come on, that's right, let's take a quick break. We'll
be right back into her back and uh uh, Gilaan
is how we're saying. I mean, yeah, whatever jiz Layne Gilaine.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
We said giz Laine in the beginning, it's Gallaine, Gallaine
whatever you I think it's everyone's saying. I think that's
where we landed. But yeah, that we are fully in
the You know what, maybe Gallaine Maxwell can offer an
out to Donald Trump to try and make all of
this goal away, to make it look like his best
friend Jeffrey Epstein was, I don't. I don't even honestly,

(29:27):
I don't even know how they think this is gonna work.
I'm even having trouble finding the logic here, aside from
probably having her just literally be like, no, Donald Trump
is the nicest guy. He had nothing to do with nothing. Okay,
no further questions. Can we be done now? But yeah,
like you were saying up top, So she was subpoenaed
to go testify in front of Congress. She said, look,
I've got terms. I want immunity, and they swiftly came

(29:51):
back to from like they responded to her lawyer's letter
like oh, yeah, like we're gonna go over some of
the other requests, but yeah, we will not. The request
for immunity from future prosecution as a condition has been denied,
so that is going to be, you know, not on
the table anymore. But again it gets a little messy
because she also has like the DOJ's trying to make

(30:13):
a deal with her. The you know that we've seen
the Deputy Attorney General meet with her to try and
figure out like what sort of testimony she's going to
give her new evidence. So it's not even clear how
any of these like I have immunity but only from
this prosecution based off of this, uh, this congressional committee
I spoke to. But also I'm trying to get pardoned.
I'm also going to have my appeal heard by the
Supreme Court. We have a date now, the end of

(30:35):
September is when Scotus will you know, dip their toe
into the sordid waters of this whole scandal.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
She's saying, like you when you gave him that highly
suspicious deal where you were like, he pleads to prostitution,
I think, and nobody who is remotely involved in this
can ever be prosecuted again in like a case that
everyone's like at the time was like that, that seems
really strange. She was like that applied to every defense lawyer,

(31:03):
was like, how you do that? How you get that deal?
And if the tip and alex Acosta said, I there,
I couldn't touch him. He belongs to intelligence. Yeah hmmmm,
well whatever whatever that could possibly mean. Yeah, but I
have a feeling she's gonna say whatever it takes based

(31:26):
on there. There are journalists who have been i think,
involved in this case for a long time who've cultivated
her as a source, and they their account of what
it's like for her in prison sounds like it wouldn't
be the ideal living situation for somebody who grew up

(31:47):
as like a fucking socialite, you know, which she did.
Like her dad, it was like a very wealthy guy
who died under mysterious circumstances and who like a bu
bunch of Israeli intelligence officials, like we're at his funeral
for some reason, and people at his funeral were like,

(32:08):
people will never know what he did for the state
of Israel.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
But you can't say no, We can't even say, like
people know, you'll I never literally I met that.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Seriously. We don't like joke when we say people will
never know, literally will never know. But anyways, she grew
up extremely wealthy, and now, like the story that I'm
hearing is she like was worried about these two inmates
who found out that she was getting special treatment from
the kitchen staff because she's vegan, and so they were

(32:40):
like giving her vegan food, and they got mad and
were basically bullying her into giving her all their all
her commissary budget, like just like giving them all the
money and like we're threatening to beat the shit out
of her. And so they got put into solitary for
fifty days, and their fifty days are up and they're

(33:01):
back out, and she's like can't even shower because she's
so scared that these two people are gonna fuck her up.
That sounds like the sort of situation where she's gonna
be like, literally, whatever you want me to say, Like, right,
my friend, whatever you want me to say.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
But she's gonna say she's just gonna it's just gonna
be straight up nonsense, because it's gonna be truly like, Okay, look,
we drafted this set of truths for you to say
out loud, and it's gonna contradict everything that's out there
in the world, and just so say that so we
can absolve Trump of any guilt. But I don't know.
I mean, like, because she's also said even if if
she's pardoned, she's still down to testify, and that's I'm like, oh,

(33:39):
maybe then she uses that to turn up. But again
I don't I really doubt her. Her sort of bona
fides is like a gangster who's like, I'm never talking
like I'll I'll rotten in here, Like no, no, the
prison is a terrible place. Even if you grow up,
even if you didn't grow up as a socialite, you
don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I say, that's the whole purpose of prison. It's not
like matter if you grew up in like a hoarder's
home with rats eating your feet at night, like that,
nobody wants to go to prison. Like that doesn't mean
you deserve to be in prison and have be treated chittily,
just as someone who grew up, you know, with a
silver spoon and fucking satin bows in their hair. It
does not matter. The point of the matter is, Yell,

(34:17):
you assisted many, many women and being their lives destroyed
and trafficked, and like, yeah, talk about it. What I'm
just worried about is that, like to your point, you know, Miles,
if they draft up something and say, hey, here's a
set of truths we want you to say, and she
just says whatever. I don't want it to be so
outlandish that like the whole thing gets thrown out with
the bathwater because they're like, she was coerced. Who knows

(34:38):
if she was coerced into this. She was coerced into this,
and now nothing she says is valid and like that's
what I don't want to happen, is for them to
negate everything because she's such duress that now they can't
trust her. When it's like I mean not that we
need to trust her, but you know what I'm saying,
Like we all know how terrible shit happen.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
She knows some shit though, for real, she absolutely does. Yeah,
that's what I don't know that we can I don't
know that there is a scenario under which like she
comes out and says something that we're unless it's like
so like unfortunate for her and like the people in
power who could help her, like I any anything else.

(35:16):
I'm just gonna always be like this seems like she's
just doing saying whatever the fuck she can to like, yeah,
get out of trouble essentially.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, you don't. You don't have a lot of goodwill
going into it when you're a convicted child trafficker, right,
So it's a little bit hard. But again, I like
as every day we just learn more things and how
things intersect and what the like, what the deal is,
because you know, just just to start off, right, like
there were files, but then there there were no there

(35:45):
was no list, and maybe Epstein's a good guy, but
then Trump is trying to associate other people with Epstein,
which means it's bad. But if it's Trump associating with him,
it isn't bad and like, so nothing is nothing is
ever consistent. Then like, so is he a bad guy?
And he's like, oh, yeah, I stopped talking to him
a long time ago, and like, oh, maybe that's he's
implying that he knew something and that's why, like he's

(36:08):
Trump is of such an upstanding moral character that he's like, well,
I certainly can't be associated with him. But since Monday,
Trump has been slowly revealing that he's like, you know,
like I knew the guy, but look, he was bad,
so we stopped being friends and then there's nothing to
see here. But then we're finding out now, so what
the reason is? And he began to like why did

(36:29):
you guys?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
What was that falling out? Because here you are saying
he's a great guy and then now you're saying he's
a bad guy. What happened in between there?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh so let me tell you. So he was on
a plane. He was on Air Force one. I guess
thinking shit that you say on a plane is less
scrutinized or something.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Glad to say. We were over international.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Waters, international airspace. So whatever whatever I say, it cannot
be used in the court of opinion.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Snakes on this plane. There's snakes on this plane. You
can't keep the truth.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I'm tired of these mother fucking snakes on this motherfucking plane.
He goes on. They ask him straight up, They're like, so,
what's the deal here? What? What? Why did you fall out?
And he begins to explain that it was for Trump
where Epstein was trafficking, mind, I mean stealing workers from
the mar A Lago SPA. Is what his explanation. Here's
Donald Trump, in his own words, explaining what the fallout

(37:21):
was between him and Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
And people would take it out of the spa hired
by him, in other words, gone, and other people would
come and complain, this guy is taking people from the spot.
I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it,
I told him, I said, listen, we don't want you
taking our people, whether it was SPA or not SPA,
I don't want him take it people. And he was fine.

(37:46):
And then not too long after that he did it
again and I said, O to.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Here, stolen you know persons that include from Virginia. Jeffrey,
that's the one who was you know, one of the
mainly witnesses. Yeah, and especially tied up with the Prince
Andrew part or Prince Andrew aspect of the scandal.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I think she worked at the spa.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Oh you do know, I think so. I think that
was one of the people with him.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
He stole her.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
And by the way, she had no complaints about us,
as you know.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Oh, I'm just so fascinated by the choice of words here.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
He stole her, stole her. That's a possession, taking people
out of the spa. Yeah, he didn't say he was
trying to head hunt my staff. He didn't say he
was hiring people and offering them more money to come
and work for him. No, take him stolen, He stole her,

(38:49):
stole her, stole my people, mine, my my people.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
My seventeen year old girl who was working as as.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Why was she working at seventeen your spa? She was looked,
stop stop zooming in on what I'm saying. Okay, sure,
because like if you so mind you Gallaine Maxwell is
the one that spotted her as a seventeen year old
at the mar A Lago spa. She was apparently reading

(39:18):
a book about massage therapy and she's like, oh, would
you like to are you interested in that? And she's like,
I can offer you a job being mister Epstein's personal masseuse.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
And that was the beginning of the end for her.
And you know, very shortly after she was being forced
to have sex with men. So this whole thing of
like the idea of like well taking my workers and
stuff like that, that is doing a lot of fucking
work here, a lot of heavy lifting for whatever you
think or however you're trying to portray this. And again

(39:48):
he was saying, then there was another person, and then
after that, I said, you're gone.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
So yeah, first of all, two thousand, I mean, at
least he you know, made it, made a swift decision, right, This.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Is yeah, it was swiftest. So here's the timeline, right,
two thousand is when Virginia Giuffrey or Jeffrey however you
pronounce that was first spotted by Glene Maxwell and then
became part of like the Epstein like just predation machine.
That was two thousand and then he's like, yeah, and
I kicked him out. But let's just think about this.

(40:20):
There's that quote that came out or said quote, I've
known Jeffrey for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot
of fun to be with.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
It.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Has even said that he likes beautiful women as much
as I do, and many of them are on the
younger side, no doubt about it. That quote was given
to New York Magazine in two thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Were off, so you kicked.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Him out after that. But then two thousand and two,
you're saying, this dude's ray, Yo, he liked the young women.
It's not kind of like I do. Okay. Then in
two thousand and three, that's when that birthday card of
like art, may may this day be another whatever beautiful
secret or enigma or whatever the fuck he said would
he birth?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's also like in his quote, the tone of his
quote is, no doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social
like he's doing the same, like winking, like we have
a secret, yes, and it's a fun, beautiful secret thing.
And in the quote he's giving to New York Magazine
in two thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So then that birthday card is two thousand and three,
y'all are still homies. But then yes, he.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Goes on to some little wink wink, we're both pedophile
fun jokes.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Right, And then it wasn't until a member of mar
A Lago's daughter complained about Epstein harassing her and trying
to recruit her. He that he like, that's when people
are like, oh, that's when it became more public that
his friend is now like the shit is leading into
mar A Lago members knowing, like, this guy's a fucking creep,
and apparently that's when he didn't want any public scandal.

(41:44):
But when people look at the registration books of who's
a member, Epstein was still a member of at mar
A Lago until two thousand and seven, so you're like, what, okay, sure,
that's the new thing he's trying to throw out. He's like,
then Jeffrey got was stealing my workers and that was enough.
And then there's another version of like are these people

(42:06):
that you were both trafficking or something and that's what
you're getting up in arms about, or then other people
point to a real estate deal. But no matter how
you look at it, it's clear that Donald Trump knew
about the criminality of Jeffrey Epstein and was surely at
the best he could do is say he knew about
it and didn't give a fuck and was like that's true.
In the space is that he's.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Underlines, because, as we've talked about in recent episodes, I
feel like a big part of this is also just
like that the implication that these are like wealthy people
who are preying on people who aren't as wealthy as
them and just treating them like objects. Like there's also
that like him being like he's stealing people from me,
like you were saying Lydia is like such like these

(42:50):
people who work for me are my possessions. Yeah, Like
that that whole like CEO thing that I feel like
everybody's familiar with if you've like worked for a company
and they treat you as if you owe them your
life because they gave you a job, like and they
treat you like they belong like you belong to them,

(43:11):
you know. Like that's that. I feel like there's that
in there also, which again like I feel like it's
an underrated part of this story that everybody like wants
these people to go down because we've all been like
fucking treated like shit by these like powerful people and
like so for him to be like buying into that

(43:32):
and like just not able to get his brain out
of that place where he's like he stole people from
me is also I don't know, I think interesting telling.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, I mean every single thing. It's I think that's
just so weird. It's like every media report like doesn't
really isn't connecting the docs or like this guy's been
friends with him for so fucking long. Yeah, like why
why are we pretending like this is like an opaque
mystery box that we can you you're out.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
These two men are talking about people. They're talking about children,
and they're talking about women who they basically traded like
fucking baseball cards. Right, well, he had the fucking Pikachu
nineteen ninety seven, and I've had that gold gold trummnster
you know, stuck in a box and he showed up,
but he took my traumatser. It's like, no, these are humans,

(44:22):
these are people, these are actual people. Like it's such
a power trip, right of like oh, let me got
to collect them all, you know what I mean. I
know he's aid baseball cards, but you know what I mean,
I met Pikachu cards. But still, it's just what a way,
like this isn't about people, This isn't about his relationship.
This is about Donald Donald Trump and power. Yeah, like
power is the thing that gets them off not to
say that children don't, but like you know, power is

(44:44):
his real thing. That's what he wants to know, is
that like I have the most power.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well, and like you know, we've talked about those other
anecdotes where like people who have like met Trump with Epstein,
like how Trump would just jump on them and Jeff Yeah, seem.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
To be like, oh no, Donald, this is the young
women would like come through and he'd be like no, no, no, Donald, sorry, no,
this is she's like working on a project for me,
like and he would be like, oh my bad. And
also the person he jumped on overheard him say I
thought she was sixteen when I saw her. So yeah, yeah,

(45:21):
the context abound. That's right, Mysteries abound. There's new, wonderful
mysteries around every corner. According to that note that he
clearly didn't write, even though he was giving quotes to
the New York magazine at the time, in the same tone.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I'm wondering what the what the experience is like for
all the comms people right now in the White House,
who there being I think about that constantly, don't. Trump's
being like, we need to stop talking about this shit.
Cut to him to Evy Epstein, Yes, uh huh, well
let me tell you, and like he's going he's not
even staying on script for what they're supposedly trying to

(46:03):
do and try to stone wall the media. And then
he's constantly contradicting himself and establishing all these different like
versions of if Epstein is bad or maybe he's not bad.
But these other people that hung out with him, you
should look into them, but not me. The guy who's
on Wax constantly that I never had.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
The privilege of going to his island. They're just like.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Whatever, bro, Like he's just gonna like we just have
to fucking just chill till he you know, he just
he does himself in or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
They need to replace all those comms people currently like
they need to go restaff them onto, like to be
producers on like Bravo and like Love Islands. They can
actually learn how to produce a story, you know what
I mean. They like the people that are in the
White House don't know what they're doing. Like I truly
truly believe that where they're like they're trying to follow
by the worlds were like wait, what is happening? It's
like no No, you need to think reality meant like reality

(46:52):
TV mentality, Like seriously, they need to get some producers
from these reality TV shows in there to like get
a hold of this. Like I really believe like that
mentality is the only way that we're going to break
Donald Trump. You can't do it with traditional mentality. You
need to do it with a big show mentality. And
I don't feel like any of the people we have
in those houses right now understand how to like communicate

(47:14):
with him effectively.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, he's just I think when you're dealing with someone
senile and dealing with their own guilt in real time
out loud, like it no one, No, there's nothing gonna
be consistent about it. It's just gonna be constant, sort
of like rhetorical flailing, which is all you're seeing. And
I'm like, at what point is this really going to
have an effect on sort of his leadership or people
looking at his leadership differently? Because right now, I mean,

(47:37):
the polls keep going down and down and down and down.
But I don't know if how much public opinion will
matter if this gets worse in terms of you know,
any any kind of movement to get him to resign
or something that just seems like a bridge too far.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I don't think that's gonna ever happen.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
It's never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I agree, Yeah, I think it'll continue to be a
story because there's so much smoke and so many details
that can be pulled out, and he's so clearly like
there there are he was complicit in a lot of
the shit at the very least. But I don't think
I think it'll keep going down and then it hits
that like hard rock cellar of his numbers where it's

(48:14):
just like and then these people just will will die before.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
They like cause like close to a third of Republicans
either believe he was he's implicated in Epstein's crimes or
aren't sure if he is or isn't right and then
like sixty some percent or like he's innocent. But there's
like a sizeable number where the like of Republicans or
it is like ninety five percent of like you know

(48:39):
the Democrats that they like they pull or like elieah
as motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I do have a question about the competency, Like Lydia,
you were talking about that these people don't know what
the fuck they're doing, because like I was reading this
Mother Jones piece about like the idea of teasing disclosure
and like how this was from like a month ago,
and they were talking about how the Trump administration was
always teasing disclosure of like JFK files, The government is

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always teasing disclosure of like UFO stuff, and they also
mentioned like the Epstein files, and like since that time,
obviously they stopped teasing it and started like being like
there's nothing to see here, We're not going to like
we got to the bottom of it and it's it's done,

(49:27):
which is like, I don't know. So that the article says,
gathering a strong, dominant and loyal following was the game
all along. An audience hotly expecting new disclosures and revelations
around every corner is an inherently loyal one, which actually
reminded me of the show Lost when that show was
still coming out, because everyone had their like pet theories

(49:50):
and believed they were right and they were about to
be proven right like on the next episode, and like
you know, everyone's involved in the detective work of like
piecing the plot together other and like you know, they
make the main characters whoever they want them to be
and that like works really well. Like I remember when
Lost was on, it was like, so the fan base
was so loyal and then they ran out of runway

(50:13):
and like had to go with an answer because it
was like, well, this is the last episode, so we
have to like say something. And so they were dead
all along, I guess, And that was like a huge turn,
and like I feel like that is kind of what
we're seeing here with Trump being like and this is

(50:37):
the final episode of the Epstein thing, and it nothing
to see here where.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
It was actually an angel.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
It was actually an angel all along. But that's the
thing that I keep asking is like why did they
feel like they were out of runway? Why did they think?
Why did he do it? Why did he say we
actually looked into it and we're not gonna just close anymore.
And the there are no Epstein, there's no list, there's

(51:03):
no files, Like the US government has been teasing alien
disclosures for fucking like decades, you know, like half a century,
Like I just I don't know, was it incompetence? Was
it that he brought in like Dan Bongino and Patel
to like put them in positions of power and then

(51:26):
they like pushed too far and he had to be like,
we're not going to do anything. Did they just like
find out that they like realized that Trump was all
over the files and like they put pressure on him
to like do something because it is weird, like they
could have done this indefinitely, and instead they chose to

(51:47):
try and just be like, uh, and here's the final
episode of Lost, and we're all good here, nothing to
see and totally fuck it up for every for themselves
in a way.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
That is.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
One is still standing on business trying to tell everyone
that we went to the moon, you know what I mean, Like,
oh we went to the moon. That wasn't just like
a great film, Like there's so many lies that they
put together, you know what I mean, and like, hey,
maybe we did go to the moon. I don't know,
Wait are you are you a moon kind of lightweight?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Like I kind of feel like we didn't go to
the moon, Like, oh, we went to the moon. I
don't know, man, we haven't been back. We have cars
that run on fucking electricity and dreams.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
You're doing that?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Why why haven't we been back?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
That's the like what did we learn? Why? Why?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
What was so crazy up there, Like I don't, I
don't know, man, Like I used to believe it and
now I'm like coming back around. I don't know if
that's just because I'm closer to fifty than I am
the thirty, but like, to me, it's more representative of
like just like our government's ability to like this is
the biggest story, you know, it isn't yes it is, no,
it isn't like the alien shit is hilarious, Like it's
just like the constant chasing of the plot is just

(52:58):
very funny to me the record, I do think the
world is round. I do think it is a globe.
I'm not a flat earther, but I don't know if
we went to the.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Middle now, who's naive lydia?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah I know, right, yeah, yeah, I mean I think
are we supposed to an artemist too supposed to go
back soon?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I think the reason was because of funding and ship
They're like, bro, we don't need it.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
We also scoring a fuck up there.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
They're just like, well, why didn't we send Katy Perry
and Gail King while we had a chance, you know
what I mean? The ad minutes up and that's it
just so that they can hang out, Like, send those
bitches to the fucking moon. Let's do this again. I
want to see Gail walk on the goddamn moon. Neil Armstrong, Oh,
put a stiletto in that dirt, bitch, let's go.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I will say. The other thing with the UFO disclosure,
like when they actually had that congressional testimony, it felt
like that actually poured a bunch of like there was
a lot of like hype growing and growing around UFOs
and disclosure, and then they had a press conference where
somebody who had like worked in the Pentagon was like, yeah,
there's like wild shit that like you guys don't know.

(54:01):
And then everybody just like kind of got quiet on it,
which I think is like the biggest testimony to like
people like these conspiracy theories until they get an answer
and then they're like, no, that's not what I was
hoping for, and so it like it takes all the
power out of it.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I don't know what you mean, man, that that alien
is this alien or cake video really hit for me.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I was just like, yes, yes, yes, it's both. If
it's both. But all of which to say, just everything
from the past like month and a half from the
Trump administration has been an amazing own goal where they
could just tease this and tease this.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I mean, like the very sort of like how did
this all happen? Like this sort of timeline that we
know is Bondi told Trump that he was in the
files in May, and then Elon, when he fell out
in the beginning of June, was like, yo, Trump, you
know why he's not talking about the files because he's in.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Them, right, So maybe it's Elon that like spooked him
a little bit and that's why he felt like he
needed needed to come the combination of someone remindingly.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
It's probably the combination of Bondi reminding him like, yeah, bro,
you in you're in that ship and he's like, oh right,
and then Eli be like, oh, he's in Epstein files
and then he's like, we need to dead this ship.
Now say there's nothing because that's such a weird I
don't know, like if he if he just kind of
let that cook and not said anything. I don't know

(55:27):
if people talk about it, because somehow that wasn't All
of the evidence that's existed before all of this wasn't
enough for people to be talking about this. It's just
wild that like because the right is now interested in
his sexual potential, sexual predation or his intersection with a
sexual predator like Epstein. That now it's like becoming a
thing everyone can sort of like talk about again before

(55:50):
this because.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Takes their cues from the right. That is it okay
for us to talk about this? I don't know. Fox
News tell us we should take a break. We're like
coming up on an hour and we're only in the
second act. We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back,

(56:16):
and good news for people who like mushrooms are any kind.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Of No, No, it's it's psilocybin specifically. Oh I love those? Yeah,
do they have those at the farmers market if you
go to the right one man. Yeah, no for real truly,
especially in like a place like Oakland where you can
you go actually pull up like a farmer's right anyway.
So look, no one tell Peter Teel or the like

(56:45):
the sun Blood addict CEO Brian Johnson, but research who
used the son as a blood sun blood not s
U N s O and sun Blood Brian Johnson. Because
researchers have found a possible additional benefit to psilocybin. Not
only does it make you better at drums?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Okay, suddenly way worse.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, and then when you come down you're like, damn,
that was only sixty seconds. I was playing that solo. Shit.
I felt like I was doing the Moby Dick John
Bonham drum. So apparently can extend your life kind of quote.
In a lab experiment, researchers treated human skin and lung
fibroblasts with silicen, a compound our bodies convert from psilocybin.

(57:29):
These cells lasted fifty percent longer than untreated cells. Then
came the mice. This is from advice article quote. Then
came the mice experiments. Elderly lady mice. Okay, vice really trying.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
To be conversation lady lady.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Okay, we're vising it up. Elderly lady. Wevice mice, roughly
the equivalent to sixty something year old humans, were given
monthly doses of psilocybin. After ten months, eighty percent of
the psilocybin mice We're still kicking, compared to just fifty
percent of the control group. Not only did they out
live their sober sisters yikes, fight come on, but they
also showed fewer visible signs of aging. It's official. You

(58:07):
can live forever by eating mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
No further questions, your honor, My client is not guilty.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
This is micro Joe Singer. They like are the mice
just gone?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
That's one of my questions.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah high hero daily hero doses your your honor? How
high are these mice? Also?

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Can I get the black mold in my home swapped
out right for psul assignment?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Can I get like justalls and ship.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Yeah, like you know when you get like mulder remediation,
like yeah, take this out, but can you don't take
it out?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Just just swap it right?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
So like I don't want to see the mold, but
like if it's going to get me high and keep
me alive longer, let's let's just do that.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
And then that's wonderful. Whatever happened, like because there are
theories that Ergot like the uh, like there there was
a type of I think mole. It might it might
be a fungus like infested the bread the season in
like Salem when the witch trials happened, and like so
everybody was just having a bad trip that whole time,

(59:11):
and that's like why the Salem Witch Trials happened. I
wonder if there's all.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Right, all right, let's just ease up there. That's just
like a man trying to make up a story for why,
like I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
A brain funk.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
It was. It was a bad trip, man. We just burned.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Thousands of women. I was like, whoa.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
I told her not to leave that bread out so long.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I do wonder if there's ever an infestation of like
good psychedelics where people are just like where you look
back and you're like, actually, everybody was just like really
high and having a great time.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Like I think, just holland they're just cool over there.
Everybody's fine.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
The Salem Witch Museum had to debunk the urgu theory.
Oh really yeah, they had so people because you're like,
we hear this all the fucking time, guys. It's not
just women misogyny. It's violent misogyny. It just it took
a very odd, whimsical form back then.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
It wasn't shrooms. It wasn't we have to that'd be funny,
like someone has like the confect the Civil War theory
of like fungus. They're like, you know, they were keeping
sleeves because of a moldy breade.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Oh, biscuits were a bitch, man, I said, you just
had a bunch of old biscuits. Next thing, you know,
you're like, let's kill black people like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Without that, Without that, we would be living in harmony
with so many people in the South still have that opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
There's no people you know still have old biscuits.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Confess there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
It's you know, sour dough starter. It gets passed on
from generation gonur Nose started.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
This has been in my family since at least the
seventeen hundreds. Oh you know I'm not eating that, thank you. Yeah, exactly.
This is bread. So this bread was doing slavery.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
No, this bread is slavery.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I'm happy to hear about the drug scene, though, because
I am a firm believer. Like part of my like
aging plan, part of my personal retirement plan is you know,
really cleaned up my act. You know, from about thirty
to you. I'm currently on the cusp of forty eight.
I've been living a pretty clean life. I don't even
drink anymore. I still smoke wheat like the but Jesus,
you know, I will do some mushrooms every once in
a while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
But Jesus sounds like Jesus, like a character of youth
pastor brings up who smokes a lot of wheat like Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
It's just it's just a bomb with long hair.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
For Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
It's a bomb with a really cool mustache.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It's like when it backwards hat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Which Jesus just had a mustache if you had shaped.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
I think about that all the time, just like a
righteous mustash, just really long and like not tourly, but
just like one of those big that covers the full limp,
like just like a crazy bar.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah yeah, version with like looking like Dennis Eckersly or
some ship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Wait, So what's your aging plan? You said?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I want to like, I want to make it to
seventy and then I want to start partying hard. Oh,
I make it to seventy and then I'm like, hey,
what's up? You guys want to do some blow? Like
what's gonna happen? I'm gonna die?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Sounds great.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I just like this, let's wrap this thing up. Yeah, dude,
I'm just gonna start like I'm just gonna acquire addictions.
I'm just be like, you know what I'm into. It's
gonna be methamphetamines. Never did it, never tried it. Let's
see what's going on. What's the new ship. There's gonna
be new drugs I'm gonna try. I just literally want
to be like zonked out on drugs on my property
and just have like a very handsome nurse checking on
me every three days and be like she's been on

(01:02:49):
a three day bender, but she's still naked, body spanded.
She's good, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Good, good, good, she's all right by and if.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
It's going to backfire on me though, and I'm gonna
last until ninety, I gotta know that I gotta not
take I can't take mushrooms. Just hard shit only after seveny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Oh interesting, really hard shit only after seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I'm smoking heroin, like the the Jesus exactly, that's where
the but Jesus lives, child, don't go there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
The thing like with all the psychedelic research, you know,
like how we see constant breakthroughs with how psychedelic therapeutics
are like helping people and like and now you just
see like they're like, WHOA, this psilocybin was just helping
this like tissue last longer. Obviously this is very narrow
study or whatever. But I just feel like we're ten
years away truly from researchers being like, yeah, psychedelics are

(01:03:39):
always the best thing for us. Ever that we should
have been like thinking about how to use a little
bit like more therapeutically and it's actually the solution to
all of our societalis That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Thank you for thank you for coming to this grateful
dead con.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
No for the questions you're on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Did either of you guys watch The Secret Live of
Mormon Housewives?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
No? No about the Yeah when I came year, Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
A wild ride. But in season two there is a
scene wherein uh, one of the couples is doing ketamine
therapy together in their home, which just makes me laugh
because I'm like, you motherfuckers don't drink caffeine or but
you're literally injecting ketamine into your veins and sitting And
I was just like, damn, dude, I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Guess religious loopholes are the best, though, you know what, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Fucking just going into a k hole together, like in
your living room with your children upstairs?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
What like?

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
What like din't you leave kenemine gay clubs everywhere where
people can enjoy it the way it's meant to be enjoyed. Like,
what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Like at a concert?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
They're mixing it in with their dirty soda.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Yeah, they're like a little bit of k, a little
bit of coconut elk, a little bit of dirty doctor
pepper going ice cream and film.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, so wild well, Lydia, such a pleasure having you
as always on the Daily Ze Guist? Where can people
find you? Follow you, see you all that good stuff?
For sure?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
You can follow me at Lydia Popovich dot com. That
is my website and links out to all of my
various areas. I'm hater Tuesday on all of the social medias.
I will be in San Francisco at the Punchline October
I'm sorry, August twelfth through the fifteenth. I will be
in Birmingham, Alabama at the Star Dome on August twenty first.

(01:05:36):
I will be at Huntsville, Alabama on October second.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yeah, I'm around. I'm I'm I'm bopping and bipping all
over the place, so come and see me. I'm featuring
for people, I'm telling jokes, I'm popping into towns. I'll
be in Chicago in October for Latina Film Latina Comedy Festival.
You know, I'll be all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
You can come and seeing I'd love to see in
real life and have you laugh at my jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Hell yeah, go do it? Is that gang? Is there
a work of media that you've been enjoying? You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I have been trying to stay pretty minimally on the
internet because it rocks our brains and it makes me
feel terrible when I'm on there too long. So I
don't really have a piece of media that I want
to like, really really support. I think the only thing
I would say is the only ones that I have
been looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Of U.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
There is a Instagram all Instagram account called Islands in
the Meme uh and it is a bunch of Dolly
Parton themed memes that I always enjoy and they are
lovingly curated by a wonderful young man who is a
college student and putting himself through school. So hey, follow
that kid, follow some Dolly Parton memes, give him a follow.
Help this help this guy get through college. He's a

(01:06:48):
lovely young man and he's very very funny, and he
works very hard. So I'll give I'll give that a
shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
There you go miles Where can people find you? Is
there a work of media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Yeah, find me everywhere at miles of Grave check me
out talking ninety day fiance still on force. A couple
of posts I like on Blue Sky Area Woman at
Exploding Piano posted, I thought balls deep meant standing in
something that comes up to your balls until I was
like thirty, like a Cranberry farmer. It's like standing in

(01:07:23):
a Yeah, like they elaborate like I'm hearing this bog
of cranberry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
My waiters on and I'm gonna get balls deep? And wait,
is that not what it means?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
That's what I think it means.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Is that not what it means?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
It does?

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
It does?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I thought there was another like other balls that I
was like, is there another ball reference?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I'm not kidding, No, it's someone says, yeah, it's that one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
After after that swinging the miss on the urgit theory,
I'll say, yeah, well just that's that's what happened there,
that it's about Cranberry bog. And then at L ninety
one Beast I social posted in high school, I was
completing about how long the school day was, and my
teacher turned to me and said, the days are long,
but the years are short. And then I was like,
what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic? And
then the bell rang and now I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
My thirties, real life, real life, that's real.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
I'm set you quick.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I uh just watched the movie Hereditary. Have you guys
heard about this? You've seen what happen? Seen that the
scary movie Hereditary that fucked me up. Watched that last night,
Jesus Christ, that will I will fuck it up? That
was good though, I like, I finally got the fifteenth

(01:08:38):
recommendation to watch that because actually my kids were like,
so we saw their ads for weapons are all over yeah,
with the kit children in silhouette running into the night
with their arms back in that like creepy like witch
is Cape posture, and the poster is like at two seventeen,

(01:09:00):
I am twenty two children from like this one missus
Miller's classroom got out of their beds and ran out
their front doors into the night and were never seen again.
And like, my kids have questions, Oh, where'd they go?
Why were they never seen again? What happened? Could that happen?
Is this a true story? Why is it called weapons?

(01:09:20):
I'm like, oh, fuck, I don't know. So now they
were like on the drive, they were like, let let's
find out what the scariest movie is of all time?
Is it weapons? So we asked Siri because I was driving,
and Siria said it was The Exorcist, Psycho and Hereditary,
and I was like, fuck, I haven't seen Hereditary. Guys.
So we all watched Hereditary together last night? You did, No,

(01:09:44):
I didn't judge myself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah, because you were just talking about like common sense media.
I have to check out something. You're like, fuck it, bro, Yeah,
y'all see to a powerhouse performance.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
You want to see a face, a facial expression of
a contorted facial expression.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
You'll never Holy man, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Anyways, that's on my mind at all times. Now is
the shit that I saw in that movie? I have
to move on to midsommer. But the director was just
on the film podcast blank Check, and I was like,
all right, all right, I'll bite. What's hereditary? Anyways? You
can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrian and

(01:10:26):
on Blue Sky at Jack ob the number one. You
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We're at the Daily Zeitgeist On Instagram. You can go
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which is where we link off to the information we
talked about in today's episode. We also link off to

(01:10:48):
a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is
there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah, you know, it's summer, it's still I was playing
some sweaty dance music. Now it's time for some just
nice reggae music from Rudolph Francis. This track is called
a soul the System Work, and it's just a fantastic track. Again,
go out on your ports with your wwompy ice bong,
wake a rip, you know what I mean, and wwamp

(01:11:15):
it you know, holler at me. But anyway, Yeah, if.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
I wamp it real quick, do to what I believe
what y'all doing out there, you wop it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
I believe you get your ass kick for doing something
like that. So yeah, check this one out. Rudolph Francis
sold the System Work. It's a fucking banger.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Check it out all right. We will link off to
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Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
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