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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty eight,
Episode two of Daly Like Guys Ye production of.
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My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we.
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Take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it
is Tuesday, May twenty third, twenty twenty three five two
three two three Yeah.
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Which of course means National Lucky If you got a
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kind to it. Be kind.
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There's a lot of shit riding on the shoulders of
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Absolutely also National Taffy Day, so it feels like I'm
spending a day at my grandparents hop wolf. Yeah, Like
you got a lucky do you have a lucky penny? Okay? Well,
then I found behind your ear lucky penny, you remember that?
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And literally I found some taffy.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But that was in the couch cushion. It might be
from seventy three, but it's still edible, I believe.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh shit, Well, my name's Jack O'Brien aka jack O
by Miles of Gray Read the new Yeah, Miles and
Jack reading the news.
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That is bla blah dah aka.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Courtesy of Fat on the Discord Loja and I'm thrilled
to be joined, as always by my co host, mister
Miles Gray.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's Miles Gray, Okay, the one of the saddest guys
in town. The Lakers are looking like we're we're just
crawling to a stop. Arsenal has fully just we have
succumbed to Man City, and I now I'm just I'm
just me. Oh no, I come to bad Arsenal weekend.
Oh We've we've been folling apart. Jack. I've been not
(01:37):
talking about it because I don't pay you to be
my therapist. I pay a therapist to be my therapist.
And they're like, do you want to talk about something
else except for sports. I'm like, it's taking up a
lot in my mind right now. So I want to
get that out of the way. I want to make
I want to make peace with that. Oh man, have
you seen the show Ted Laso? Uh yeah, and you
know what that brought that up?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And I was like, I'm like, you break up Ted
Sorts and psychology model. No it doesn't, Miles. We are
thrilled to be joined by a brilliant actor, comedian, writer,
podcast host you know from countless podcasts and her show TV.
I say with Ashley, which makes all the year endless.
(02:18):
Please welcome the brilliantly talented Ashley Ray.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
How are you, Ashley?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm so good?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Oh my gosh, I I love the ted Lasso hate
from the beginning. That truly was my overrated Yeah, I'm
not even joking. I had it ritten.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Have you seen? Have you seen?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Have you seen?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Does so much about Max?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Have you tried it?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Have you tried got? I just got a FC Richmond, Jersey.
I'm like, that's gonna look pretty stupid in a couple
of years. I'm gonna just tell you that right now.
But he go ahead. Do you do you do with fou?
But yeah, I mean you're on strike like the rest
of the writers. Yeah, I'm on strike. So I've been
catching up on a lot of TV.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It's just finally time to sit down watch ten seasons
of Anderpump Rules. I watched all of like the new
selling Sunset in a day. I just, you know, it's
time to just really sit down and connect with all
the TV that that I'm not writing or you know,
because it's it's so much fun being on strike. You know,
(03:28):
you go the picket line, you eat some free pizza,
that Jerry Seinfeld brought you.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's great. It's fun to see all the celebrities that
pull up in solidarity. Like I saw a flavor Flave
came up, like he brought a bunch of burgers, a
bunch of burgers, and I'm like noted, noted.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, Yeah, Larry David sent a coffee truck. The Daniels.
They brought a bunch of ARBs to Netflix one day,
so ARV.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I love those too. It's like kind of a divisive one.
Does Arby's travel It doesn't, but they're.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
On from It was very close.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
But like they got and they to their credit, they
stole a tray from the Arby's and just like covered
it and like curly fries and mots rella sticks. But
I think they did a disservice going with like a
lot of the fried stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Is that just like you know, by the time you
make it one loop around the picket line, it's it's cold.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
To get Yeah, Arby's got the meats. They can you
can have a turkey sandwich from there to hogs and
a little.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Come on meat Mountain. Remember when they used to do
that when they put all of them on the sandwich. Yeah,
and now they're doing like sliders or something anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
They got like a slider thing they're trying to really read.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There's like the one Arby's of note in LA. Is
that in La? Like by Netflix?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So I can it looks like it could be the
original Arby's. Like the sign that's outside of it looks
like it's in the background of the Taxi Driver movie.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, right right, it.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Looks like the one that the original McDonald's. That's like
the first one, you know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You you are one of their fore most TV thinkers writers. Yeah, so,
I mean it's a time of prestige television. So I'm
glad to hear that you're, you know, get getting caught
up on vander Pump and the History other things, the
other prestige franchises.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Oh yeah, I've watched a solid maybe two to three
seasons of bar Rescue.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I mean, actually I feel like we have very similar like,
you know, tastes and TV. You also love the ninety
day trash reverse and you know you help guest co
host for twenty Dance. Are you are you like me?
Where you like that genre of reality show which is
expert yells at stupid people like like yeah, like Tabitha's
Salon takeover.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, Tabitha's Salon takeover, Bar rescue, like on the Kitchen
and Spectrum like my six hundred pound life, and like hoarders.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh are the Shark Tank count?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Or not? When it's good?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
When when someone can yeah, when it's good.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
But sometimes people on Shark Tank, it's like, Okay, you're smart,
this is boring. I want I want someone who's just
like they're yelling and they're like, you shouldn't store cat
piss in your fridge.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And that's why not?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Like well why not? Mark?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, why not? Why can't I do that? What's
the issue?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Something like an issue with you? That's my favorite part
of Shark Tank is when a pitch goes south and
then the person gets salty with the sharks and you're like, oh, okay,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Blow it up now, it's good, blow it up.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah right exactly. Yo, man, you're ruining lucas career. Bro,
you're ruining Lucas career. Anyway, that's fine, I mean I
can see that. Sure, you don't want to buy my
my cat piss containers, but at least I know what.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You refrigerated, cat piss container refrigerated. You never know when
you're gonna want those refrigerated.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, I'm sorry, man, you started your pitch saying, what
doesn't yetti make that everyone's asking for something that keeps
yours cold.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Something that keeps explicitly specific.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
For But yeah, that's that's the brand of reality TV.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I love.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I've been diving back into all the trash. Did all
of I Am Jazz seven seasons? Watch it in three days?
It's a problem I am.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I guess it's this TLC reality show.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, it's about and it's about intermural jazz done by
this girl, Jazz Jennings, who was like the youngest first
trans woman to like be like on TV. She did
like twenty twenty when she was like six years old,
and then her parents were like, oh, we can make
money off of this for a long time, and they
put her on a reality show that has gone on
from basically when she was like twelve to now twenty
(07:33):
two and in college and most of the show you're
just like, please let this girl just live a normal
life and get her off of TV. Please just like
let her leave her alone. And then you see a
mom who's just like no, no, and it's too actually, yeah,
just her mom being like, yeah, I see what you're
saying about maybe how she could use some privacy. But
(07:54):
have you ever considered that I like being on television
and it's great.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
That sounds amazing. All right, Well, Ashley, we're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
a couple of things we're talking about later in the episode.
We're gonna check back in with Harlan Crowe. The Atlantic
hit us with another puff piece from our.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Boy, Graham Wood. Graham Wood knock on Wood.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, he's still a fan, dude, you won't believe it.
So he finally got the invite that he's been dying for.
The guy who for Harlan Crowe is so fucking sad
to me. Yeah, and he's like a lifelong Harlan Crow simp.
He's like, I've peered through the gates of his house
and wondered what it would be like to be inside there.
(08:39):
And so therefore The Atlantic has made this my beat me,
the strangest person to like, the person with the strangest
connection to the story possible. I'm now the authority on that. Anyways,
we'll talk about that weird story. We'll talk about David
zaz Love Warner brother Discovery CEO The Zazz to be
(09:01):
you his alma mater, to deliver a commencement speech, and
it was unlike presumably what.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He was expecting, different than all hands meeting at Warner Discovery.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They handed him his ass Yes, exactly what you are
expecting hearing that sentence, but unlike what the Zazz was expecting.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
We'll talk about Adidas's plan to sell off the remaining
Geezy gear with like some proceeds going to charity. But
it's basically like, man, we're upside down on this ship.
And then Disney Plus is getting rid of a whole
bunch of content from Yeah, they're doing the bunch of TV,
(09:43):
they're doing the we're writing it down as a loss
and therefore you're never allowed.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
To see it again.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Thank you, all of that plenty more. But first, Ashley,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history this week?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
In my search history deep dives into California and New
Jersey child support laws because on the latest season of
Selling Sunset, one of the new people is Nick Cannon's
baby mama, Wow, which, Yeah, I had no idea Nick
Cannon's reach would.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Hit the Selling Sunset universe.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I think by the year twenty twenty eight, every TV
show will feature one of Nick Cannon's baby mamas first.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And she like, wait, Bree is one of nick can Bree.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Brie is Nick Cannon's baby mama, and she is six
weeks post baby. And basically all of these women in
the in the Oh the Oppenheimer group are like, how
can you be with him? Like you see a good dad,
And she's like, that's my man, that's my family. I
stand by him. We're such a we're in an open relationship,
but he's my man. And then she finds out two
days later he had a baby and that she just
(10:51):
did not even know was coming. She's like, wait, there's
another baby, no idea. And she's talking to all the
other women and she's like, well, in California, if I'm
man has more than ten children, they can just be like,
he can't afford any more child support. So like Nick
Cannon doesn't have to pay anymore because he had so
many kids, But this kid is baby number eight, so
(11:13):
makes it in the window. But then a bunch of
people were like, she's wrong, That's not how California child
support laws work. So I had to google it for
myself to really get to the bottom of this thing,
and it turns out that's not true. At ten kids
in California, they can like relook at your financial status
and be like, hey, let's like across the board bring
the amount down for all your twenty children. But there's
(11:35):
never a limit where it's like yeah, yeah, where it's
like you got too many kids, Like anybody after twelve,
we're s harrd.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So that interpretation of the law seems like it was
written by Nick Cannon. Yes, like I think has like
Cannon and Cannon.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He has like a copy and pasted the text.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
He says to these women that's like yeah, but just
so you know in California, he's.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like, Oh, let me put you on the phone with
my lawyer, which is me who I'm gonna guess with.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
A right now, speaking in a silly voice. But let
me tell you the girl. I literally by the time
they finished filming the season, apparently he already has three
other kids. After Breeze kid. It's like within five months,
it is a wild.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Wow wow wow. Breathe, Okay, I'm like reading things like
she found about child nine, like on the set, on.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
The set, like she's just hanging out trying to sell
a house, opens her phone and is like what whoops?
Oh yeah, and the other girls are not nice about it. No,
I mean yeah, just so you know they are not supported.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, I'm seen, yeah, because they they they they move
in a certain way like I remember like a Manza
when she was struggling and all that are you'll even
like the Brown woman some problems here selling Sunset because
that's what it looks like.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
To me, that's what it is. And it's yeah, and
we have some new big bats this season. So my
search history has just been dedicated to understand all things
child support in real estate law in California.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Shit. I just love that he's treating like paternity like
a subway punch card. And he's like, I got to ten.
There's no such thing as child support. This after ten,
you're good. Yeah, after ten, you're good.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
He also did a big interview where he sell its
favorite like he was like, my favorite child is Onyx
and he was like three days a week. I make
sure to be with Onyx, which is the child born
right after briskid.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh, and their child is called Legendary Love.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yes, Legendary Love, who does not make his favorite not
Onyx is the only one. He's like, I go to
back for her.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He's like, because I fucked with the rap group Onyx
back in the day after that House of Pain.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He also was just the subject of an LA Times
article that was like everybody like pigeonholes him as guy
with lots of kids, but you don't know is he's
like clearing fifty million dollars a year, which sounds like
it's gonna sounds like he had the wrong interpretation of
the child support law when when he did that story, because.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Sounds yeah, yeah, because it's like you don't want people
to know how much money you're making. I think, like Nick,
this is going to be a tax issue in the future.
Like I just he's not making good choices here.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right right, Unfortunately, care how many hair rats you're wearing.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He might want to google some California child support laws
because he clearly doesn't know what he's working.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He' said like, my honor, I will represent myself by
day and I do believe uh Section two twenty subcold three,
you have sub cold. I don't know. Look, my honor,
it's been a long day. I have twelve.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I have twelve kids. I have been in the court
of wild and out all day.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So tired.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Do you have any idea how many colds I've had.
I've had all the colds, every flu, every variant of flu,
currently traveling through the public school system in Californe. What
is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I truly had ted Lasso written on my list. I
do still watch it in this third season. The finale
is in two weeks. This last episode I thought was
one of the corniest things I've ever seen on TV.
And then I get on Twitter and everyone is like,
I cried for thirty hours after that episode of ted Lasso.
(15:27):
That was Yeah, that's just that was the most beautiful
thing when they had the mean guy play violin while
a woman did a monologue, and you were like, oh
my gosh, humanity is beautiful. I just I was just
like sitting there, like, am I having a stroke? Like
am I just have I become the world's meanest hater
that I don't understand what people are saying in this
(15:50):
what what is?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What is it? And I know I I say this
as a joke club like, but what is it about Ted?
Because I get everybody loved it. I watch it, and
for whatever reason, it rubs me the wrong way. For
some reason, I'm not and I'm not. And I went
into it being like, yeah, fuck with soccer, Yeah go ahead,
and then I'll go yeah. I don't know, man, I
(16:12):
think in my mind I was like, I'm too far
gone for this show, is how I sort of described it,
like I'm damaged goods and I can't.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Interesting because the first season is incredible, Like I will
give the first season all that credit. If you're gonna
watch it, just watch the first season. It started as
this sharp, thirty minute sitcom that was, you know about
like enemies becoming friends and your pretty standard tropes, but
in an interesting way with soccer. And then somewhere along
the lay way, they were like, how about instead of
(16:40):
thirty minute episodes, we make the episodes an hour and
instead of a funny sitcom, we turn it into like.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
A drama rom com.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And actually it can just be like ten different genres
all shoved together. So sometimes it's like a sports show,
and sometimes it's a rom com and sometimes it's like
a feminist good time, and I don't think anyone knows
what they're doing, and they just kind of gave into
all the fan service of like, oh, fans want Roy
Kent to be like nice and funny, so let's make
(17:09):
him nice and funny. Now, Oh, they don't want Nate
to be evil, so let's like keep Nate not too
evil and just make him nice again for no real reason.
And it just really is one of those shows. I
don't think we've seen a show like this in modern
times that has like lost its way so thoroughly because
it gave in too like all of the awards and
fan service and just was like yeah, go yeah, Like
(17:32):
there's no reason for these episodes to be an hour long.
Like you watch it and you're just like, why am
I still watch?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Like how is it still there?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Right right right? You're looking at your watch?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Really, we covered how Jason Sadaik has recently revealed that
like Ted Lasso originally was like mean, like every football
coach in the world actually is, and then yeah, like
full of toxic masculinity, and then he like when Trump
got elected, he had the insight that like maybe people
just need a nice person, And then it sounds like
(18:05):
they have systematically had that same insight about every single
character and every like conflict and negative emotion that it's like,
what if everyone was just happy and yeah, they revealed
their trauma immediately and then had it smoothed out by
just good old fashioned American optimism.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
What about that there's no conflict, There's no anytime they
try to create conflict, you know that it's not real.
There's a character who comes out of the closet this
this season and one of his friends kind of acts like, oh,
I don't want to talk to you anymore, don't touch me.
And you're like, oh, no, is he homophobic? Is this
going to be an actual issue? But almost I was
immediately like no, his problem is that he can't believe
(18:46):
the guy lied to him, but he's totally supported. Yeah,
And by the end of the episode, he's showing up
to the Flowers like it's not that you're gay, it's
just that you didn't tell me for five years and.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I shouldn't have centered myself in your process.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, And it's like, yeah, great, I'm glad we spent
you know, four episodes on this just so we can
end on them playing video games together and being buddies again.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Okay, great, right, right?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And yeah, because I remember initially when that character came out,
it was like a promo for NBC Sports and he
was like a he was like a hard ass football
coach trying to deal with this club.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
And the last character when he came as a like
a commercial, Yeah, it was like an extended mid roll
basically YouTube like viral clip, and then they kind of
quickly faded off.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
And I think you can just tell Jason Sadeikis is
tired of playing this character. I think he doesn't really
understand why this is the show that he's doing that
like blew up like this, like.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
You watch now and you just kind of like he
has just like the sense of like why do people
like this? Yeah, I feel like he's baffled.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I think they're going to get it right with the
next Prestige TV show adapted from a TV commercial character,
Jake from State Farm is actually going to be just
like a problem a fixer in Washington sort of scandal,
but with without any of the conflict or pathos, and
Jake from State Farm just like fix it easily.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Apple TV is working on this as we saw.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, like they have some scab writers who are getting
it down.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, fully written by AI. What is something that
you think is underrated?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, a very TV centric list. As you know, as
the host of TV, I say underrated. I'm going with
Missus Davis on Peacock. It's an amazing show that no
one is talking about because Peacock doesn't promote their TV shows.
They just the only one they want people to know
about is bubb Kiss with Pete Davidson. But they have
this other show, Missus Davis, that is revolutionary. It is
(20:50):
the best show I've watched this year and no one
is talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's after being hosted from her convents, sister Simone vows
to destroy the one responsible, powerful artificial intelligence known as
Missus Davis.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Wait what exactly?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
It is about a nun who is trying to destroy
this massive AI system that's taken over the world. Basically,
it's like, you know, you put a little air pod
in your ear and it scans your brain and knows
everything you want, everything you want or need.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It can like help you achieve.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So everyone in the world is obsessed with this AI
product and this one Nun blames it for killing her
father and is out for revenge, and that is fuck
the high level story.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's Damon Lindloft, Damon Lindeloff.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah, and he's yes, but with this in Watchman, I
am like, he's my favorite. He's killing it. All The
performances are so good. Betty Gilpin is the lead. The
guy from Greek, Yeah, Greek Hive if you're out there, Yeah,
(21:53):
Jack Evan from Greek is the main guy in it.
And it's so incredible. It's just that only scratches the
surface of what the show is about. But it is
probably the smartest written thing I've seen on TV this year.
It is one of those shows that makes you go,
oh yeah, human people need to write television. This is
why it's so incredible and smart, right, It's it's so
(22:15):
good And I wish that I wish Peacock would do
as much advertising for their shows as I do, Like
I promote Peacock shows more than their own PR department,
And so yeah, missus Davis, please yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I can't figure out why the streaming economy doesn't work
where you just like make these really expensive press these
shows and then just like dump them in the dark.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, and then in the dark and you don't tell anyone,
yeah yeah, and then you're just like, oh, but Pete
Davidson's Bubbkiss will put up ten million billboards about it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right, right.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Blame I blame the writers personally.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think it's they're just too selfish or could you
imagine it's at the work of an algorithm in the
Peacock marketing arons like I don't know about AI, like
someone destroying me. No, no, no, let's not promote that one.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Let's not promote it.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Let's really focus on bub Kiss and the wrestling that
Peacock has for some reason.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Right, it's okay, good? Yeah, I mean because it's true,
like the marketing really is not great. Like we had
Jason Wallinger on when Paul T. Goodman came out, and
like a lot of our listeners are like, what's this show,
and they're like, I have Peacock.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I have Peacock and haven't heard about it. Like I
check Peacock every day and it won't tell me about
like new seasons of shows I have watched on Peacock,
Like I watched all of the first season of Killing
It and I know it got a second season that
I think comes out soon, and I like Peacock's not like, Hey,
that show you watched is coming back.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I want that. Yeah, it's like you want more of that,
I guess it.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And so yeah, I gotta I gotta scream about missus
Davis kill a I and she's a hot nun.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
All right, well let's take a quick break and we
will be right back. And we're back, and Harlan Crowe
is just a regular old guy and everybody needs to
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cool it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, do you say anything more
than that?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, I mean I wasn't familiar with Harlan Crowe before
all of this controversy, so I was shocked that he
apparently had a stand in this like Gramo guy who
was just like, oh, I've been into this dude, and
he's just a regular dude, you know, like all of
our grandpa's. He's like funding a Supreme Court judge, you know,
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just a regular old dude like.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
All of them. For how else would you unburden yourself
with generations of inherited wealth? When he said the things
that this right bind.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He's not buying Nazi crap. He's unburdening him himself with
this historical relics, that's.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
All it is.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And if you're gonna buy historical relics, why would it
be of say the country you live in, or maybe
something related.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Why wouldn't it be Nazis.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's gotta be cool.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
There's so much history.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
But so the first like as people were, you know,
as the pro Publica series was being published, The Atlantic
came out with this article that made headlines because the
author was like, anyone who calls him a Nazi for
collecting Nazi paraphernalia is an idiot, and I think we
all know that, right, people can all agree His last
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line of like the article is something to the effect
of like Harlan Crowe's friends know that he's not a Nazi,
and it's like but and those that don't, of course,
they jump to that because they're not smart like his friends.
And you're like like, like, oh what, because America is
a meritocracy and we can all just agree on that
and move on. But as we talked about the last
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time we covered this, the guy Graham Wood is a
like as he mentioned in the first article, like grew
up in the same town as Harlan crow and like
Dallas and would like run past his compound and like
peer through the gates and like wonder what was going.
So he's he is like a lifelong fan of this
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billionaire like property. Yeah, his property, his mystique, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So he's he's.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Always wanted to just get in there. He's been looking
for this opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You know, we all peek over the fence of a
villain's mansion and go, Maybe me someday.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I wish I could hang and hang out in there
and enjoy some cannabis.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Let me tell you favorite favorite pastime of black and
brown people in the US peering over somebody's fence that
you don't it always ends properly where I've never done
that ship in my life. But anyway, this piece, though,
he really got the first piece got Harlan Crowe's attention,
and he was like, oh shit, this okay, these guys
kind of a fan standing up. Yeah, I like, I
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fuck with this grand.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He wants to see.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, totally over. So guess who got a personal invitation
to Harlan Crowe's fucking sculpture garden. None other than Graham
would and apparently up top he's like, look, man, I'm
not gonna talk about this Clarence Thomas shit. He's like,
oh yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, sure, for sure,
obviously we will never That's not even important to me.
What I'm trying to do is humanize you. And this
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whole thing it's about as predictably like a puff piece
as you can imagine. Like it's filled with some really
dumb equivocations. There's one part where Harlan Crow's like, I
wouldn't be mad if like, let's say George Soros was
friends with like the head of the World Bank, And
you're like, oh, y'all, you really screamed that dog whistle
into the mic. Okay, okay, And let's not pretend like
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a Supreme Court justice is some kind of rabid capitalist
business person. But I guess maybe that's what is being revealed,
is that these these people are not really here to
adjudicate fairly that they're they can you know, they're ideological
pieces that can be manipulated by people like Harlan Crowe.
But again, I think overall this piece just a really
really cool moment where this journalist completely misses the point
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in order to like curry favor with a billionaire that
he admires and tries to pretend as if his ties
to Clarence Thomas aren't deeply problematic. He's like, of course
you should disclose that stuff, obviously. I'm saying that. He's like,
what was the fucking problem if he bought his mom's house.
She lives there rent free or pay whatever. Marla's just
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a good dude.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
He's always just helping people who happen to be on
the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Okay, yeah, always like.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
He knows where to put his money. The title of
the piece is called the Collector because you're like, wow, great,
I love.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
It is, which I just like they just wave off
the collecting Nazi memorabilia so easy, like just it's not
like collecting lucky pennies, okay, Like in Germany people aren't
allowed to collect Nazi memorabilia. I studied German history, and
I have no interest in collecting like Nazi memorabilia.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Like what, It's just so fascinating that some of the
three leaders during World War Two were all artists. I
just think there's a fun story there. That's what he
says about buying Hitler's painting.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
That's just a fun story.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So there's a fun story there, Like Okay, well what's
the fun I.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Mean, this is where I'm like taking Let's ask them,
Let's ask some more questions.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think at best, right, he's so disconnected from what
it means to collect that Nazi shit that he really
doesn't see an issue because like, oh, like I'm not
affected by white supremacy or hate like in ways like that.
Plus my money insulates me from that kind of reality.
So I truly look at it as buying like old shit.
Not even that I don't like. I like it. I'm like,
I get a fun story. I don't know what. I
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don't know. Hitler wasn't that scary, even when I think
of myself, I probably would have been fine.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So you know, are what are we afraid of?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah? What's the issue? But yeah, like there's another part though, too,
where like Graham Wood really wants to underline crows like
never Trump like bona fides or he's like man like
he he hates Trump though, like he hates them, so
like huh, like it's just kind of like out of know,
we're just saying that, Like, so that's got to count
for something. It's like, but at the end of the day,
(30:21):
he is so invested in the conservative like legal movement
that like, what, I don't understand why you think that
one is different from the other, because they're both. They're
both like trains that are moving in the exact same direction. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
One is impolite and draws attention to itself, which yeah,
is against the rules, especially for people who are part of,
you know, the tradition of collecting and protecting generational wealth. Yeah,
you know, so the Trump is bad for those people.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
There was there was another good quote that was saying,
how Harlan Crow like, actually he doesn't feel powerful at all.
He doesn't get why. He's like, He's like, I'm actually
not that powerful. They Yeah, He's like, I'm windle and weak.
He's like he's like they even like in the thing
that like saying even President Biden has said he's like
how He's like, you think you're gonna be calling the shots.
(31:11):
He's like, I take more orders now as president than
I ever thought I would as like as a way
to be like yeah, yeah, because you don't know where
you are home. That's what.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Part of the Democratic Party that is fucking tied irrevocably
to massive billionaires like this asshole.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah exactly, but it just like it's fun to like painted.
It's like he doesn't even think he's he himself thinks
he's weak, so it's okay, Like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
It's totally fine if I'm not actually because I don't
think I have the power. Like sometimes I call Clarence
Thomas and he doesn't even call me back until like
fifteen minutes later.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'm very, very weak.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Those fifteen minutes they feel like an hour.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I gotta tell you, man, I tell you. I've told
Mike Walt granddaughter who just got back from Liberal Arts College.
I've been ghosted too, okay by Clarence. It's tough out here.
It's hard for a billy, you know what I mean.
But yeah, it's it's more predictable, like nonsense. I don't
know why they're all in on this campaign to like
try and defend Harlan Crow, like like what the editors
(32:13):
at The Atlantic are like, oh you got another Harlan
Crow piece. Yeah, it up in the hot. But again,
at the end of the day's go. It's truly to
be what the kids say, right, let's go, let's go.
Atlantic Office this one. It's different. My god, bro, this
(32:35):
was busting, busting. You didn't tell me about this. I
actually believe he's a normal guy. But yeah, I mean
I think it just shows legacy media is still there.
They're still in the billionaire culture. So they're not about
to they're not about to point fingers and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
This guy, by the way, graduated from Harvard and currently
is also a lecture in political science at Yale University.
So it's really in touch with the people, the mainstream media,
Ivy League, like that whole insular circle of people just
cranking each other off and being like we're all we
all get it right, Like we we can't tell the
(33:11):
truth here, right. We know that there's an order two things,
if you know what I'm saying, And it like ultimately
comes down to fucking eugenics and being fascists, like being
wealth fascists essentially.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I wonder if they, like I can imagine they listen
to Run the World by Beyonce and they who run
like us, we love this.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, Carlan Crow is definitely like on his little stationary
by pumping that in his ears, exercise bikes that with
the little arms.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, he's got the old timey like workout equipment from
Nazi Germany's like a jiggle belt that like jingles your
belly until the it's supposed to just like make this thing,
make that mel off.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
He's like my gold kettle bell. It's it's from stolen
teeth from Oh never mind, don't worry about it anyway.
It weighs a ton.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Though, all right, uh, from one billionaire to probably David
Zzla is probably not a billionaire yet. And that's so, yeah,
we're he might be on his way, which is why
we're going to give him the dignity of talking about him.
He delivered a commencement speech at his alma mater, bu.
(34:29):
He is the Warner Brothers Discovery CEO who has done
a lot of kind of fucked up shit and like
started the trend of just cutting all sorts of yeah,
like canceling a movie that had already been completed, canceling
a bunch of shows that exist, the family department.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Getting rid of the animation department.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
He came up with the Max idea of joining Discovery
plus an HBO Max to just be Max Max, which
is one of the worst branding choices and maybe the
history of advertising.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
But the ads, they're really winning me over. Those ads
are all over NBA.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
My my favorite part is when they're like all the
TV you love and it's like the Wire, the Sopranos secession, and.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Then they're just throwing ninety eight beyond.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And International're like yeah, and I'm like, you know what,
they're not wrong. I'm like, facts, I know all of
those back.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
But so he didn't get very far into his speech,
and in fact, people started booing even during his introduction.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
And there is just a constant ebb and flow of
heckling throughout his twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So yeah, let's uh, let's let's hear they'll listen to
what I'll see what happens when they brought this man
coming to the stage right now and then ring out.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Mister, I have the honor to present David for Boston
University's honor.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Is he here?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
We go them?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
So uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, And and the collaps are just the people on stage.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Close to the microphone just being like, yeah, wow, it's
really going across the squad man. You can hear that. Yeah,
he was definitely he was not. I love seeing that
when like he's fucking out of touch. Wealthy people think
they're about to be fucking welcomed by a chorus of cheers,
and I was like, fuck you and.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Just boo and then the professors in the background trying
not to laugh. Those were my favorite, just looking at
their knees with like a smile.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, like when Fergie saying the national anthem at that
one All Star game. Yeah, oh whoa say?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Can you see people like I just like just don't don't, don't, don't,
don't react, but yeah, he I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
People screamed, pay your writers, we don't want you here,
and more to the point, shut.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Up zaz Lab.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
That's a good chance.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That's not even just while the strike is bigger than
one studio, it's pretty easy to see why he is
kind of being portrayed as the mascot for the bad
guys here, not least which because his compensation last year
was nearly two hundred and fifty million dollars and they
are treating writers and.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Creatives like shit just generally across the board. Well yeah,
and also like when you think of how how rigid
all the streamers are being about royalties too, Like maybe
look at him and what he's presiding over. You're like, yeah, man,
there's a lot of shit, a lot of roads are
leading to you or you know that it works like yours.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Well, a big part of him like taking these shows
down is that you know, it is a tax right
off or whatever, but it also stops them from playing
paying residuals to writers and the actors, which is residual
on TV. Oh, you'd make so much money broadcast residuals.
For streaming, you may.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Be lucky if you get like a fifty cent check.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
So it's already a thing where it's like the writers
aren't making much money off of this, They're gonna fight
to get more money on residuals. And his idea is just, well,
if we just take the shows off, then you'll never
get the residuals. And other networks are clearly following suit.
So it's just like, yeah, zos, love like you, Fuck
you right, fuck you for giving Hollywood this idea, because
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now every platform is doing it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
He later issued a statement after his commencement speech saying
that he is immensely supportive of writers, but he there's
also a recent interview in which he said that the
thing that will end the strike is not a fair
deal for writers, but rather a love of working.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Get the fuck?
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Oh yeah, come at us, right, We just love it
so much that like, uh, even if I'm getting paid unfairly,
I just gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I just love it. Love it, love it, love it,
love it so much.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Like Yeah, for the people that like are the own
business owners, they are still so stuck in this mindset
where they think, yeah, like everyone loves to toil. I
don't understand, like I'm making money. They make a pittance
that they can live off of and have their little
bites of bread or whatever poor people eat, and it
all starts working. I love that he thinks that the
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love of working is going to motivate people, because guess
what if you can't support yourself, it means fuck all
to work. But David, please, let's just let's just check
in one more time with the students of Boston University,
just so we can hear them. The looks on his.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Face, by the way, like his mouth just turned into
like a like completely horizontal line across when they started.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Doing was oh yeah, yeah, Like he's also wearing ridiculous
sunglasses like he does.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yes, yeah, because they're like polarized and mirrored. It looks
like he got off like a fishing boat off the
coast of Florida or something. Ye like the way that
he's got these lines anyway, but let's.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Think you're serving Hollywood, but he's actually serving yeah, like
fishing charter a guy who just chartered a fishing boat.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You're serving clearwater Florida, Broye and and you're at a
boat party where Connor Cruise, Tom Cruise, his son is
djaying that's.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What well, also DJ what's his name? The Golden Goldman
Sachs CEO.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Oh yeah, some people will be looking for a fight.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Looking for a fight, and he gave thumbs up, like yeah,
I get you, I get it. I suck, but don't
be the one they find it with.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Terrible some people's good qualities.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
Jack was lying. In my career, I've seen so many
talented people jack tunities or jobs.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Because they couldn't because it's such a weird way. He's
gonna be like this because they asked for too much
and negotiation.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
To too much because people weren't ready for their ideas.
And it's like no, they were just very talented and smart,
but they couldn't get along with me an asshole.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, see when they said I was racist. You see
you're being difficult now I'm not going to work with people.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Will be looking for a fight, but don't give it
to him, Like that's how he views conflict as like
something you would be avoided and just like he's basically
telling writers not to strike in his speech. Yeah, or
just what your mindset needs to be to be a
fucking like heinous, multi gazillion eira is to be like, dude,
don't there will is basically there will be haters, right,
(41:46):
just know that, but don't give them a reason to
hate because you will become powerful enough or you can
completely fuck the haters over, just so you know, just
so you know, like somebody who just got this lucky
giving a speech telling people like how to do it,
and his speech is like you just gotta not push
(42:07):
back when people are mean to you. Just don't know, baby.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Take it and like just that's fine, and just don't
be the person they're looking for a fight for, sir,
Like you're the one.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeahes the people that you work with.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
Figure out what you like about a person. There's always
something and do what it takes to navigate their challenges.
We all have them. The reality is most of us
don't pay enough attention to our weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Okay, wow, yeah, you're saying a lot, all right, Okay,
cool man.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, Okay, Buddy.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Dave, big d Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
There's also that Vanity Fair profile. I don't think we've
covered yet, but there's like a Vanity Fair profile where
they're like the head regular guy after fifteen years running Discovery,
the media mogul for main Street opens up for main Street,
opens up about his upcoming battle with Disney and Netflix.
He's a reflection of his audience, says Nancy Pelosi. He's
(43:14):
a regular guys.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Nancy Pelosi, the most normal guy, just the most Nancy
knows normal guys.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I think my favorite part of that whole thing is
there's like a story of someone, yeah, the fleabag story,
where like David is on a yacht with all his
friends and they put on one of his own properties.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I think it's like flea.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Bag, and then he's like flea bag, should we check
it out?
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Which at this point came out like fucking what five
years ago, Like this is so past the prime, right,
And then there's this sex scene, and he truly is
like stop everything, like pause. We either all have to
decide we're turning this off or we're all just gonna sit,
like sit silently and stare ahead and.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Not look at each other. He sounds like a youth
pastor trying to navigate that moment.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
What's the quote one The group found itself in the
midst of a hot and heavy sex scene a minute
into the first episode of Fleabag pause exclamation point. So
I put my hand up, recalls as Love.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I go whoa.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
So they stop it, and I said, Okay, here's the strategy.
We're we either shut it off or we put it
back on, and everybody only looks forward. We don't look
at each other until it's over. It sounds like he
was telling them not to look at him so he
could jerk off. Wanted to jaf like everyone nobody looks
(44:47):
at each other. Nobody when you hear something weird over here,
you don't look over from the gy contact, which I've
said about this whole trick.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
No eye contact, no eye contact.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Don't look me, especially not when I'm jacking off to
this scene that we're we're all.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We made a fucking bout Kevin, eyes ahead, you come on, man,
so weird. We don't strategy at each other.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
We don't look at each other during a which also
the fleabag sex scenes like aren't sexy, No, Like they're
all like.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Awkward, uncomfortable. Whichell what that's the thing you could comment
on after be like, man, that was awkward to be
watching that with you my workmates.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
My workmates, he's like, we're all going to jack off
to this, right, don't look at.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Each other, don't look at me, because strategy is the
operative we're here. I'm like, what are they? What is
what is the shared game they are trying to achieve
with said strategy?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Just the CEO brain of thinking you have to say, okay,
here's the stretch during sex.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
In his mind, he's like, he's like, David, you're getting
a boner. You're getting a boner. Whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa tell him to shut it off to him?
Whoa pause, guys, whoa, whoa, whoa. Here we go, Okay,
here's the strategy. What what you talk talking? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:03):
And I just need to know what it is like
watching so many shows with him, Like how is he
getting through Euphoria. I'd like, let me watch an episode
of Euphoria with David Sasla.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
What's that strategy?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
What is the strategy, buddy?
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, oh my god, Yeah, it's it's it's terrifying. And again,
it's so terrifying to think that these are the kinds
of people that are at the helm of these massive
networks that make the decisions that come down what kind
of creativity we see like manifest on the screen some
guy who is so like sexually repressed or whatever the
fuck's going on here that he has to go whoa
(46:39):
pause everyone, look ahead, No, no, no, no, no, oh
my god, what did I get into with this HBO crap?
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Like right, like what what did you think you were buying?
Speaker 4 (46:50):
But even with that, it's like you have Discovery Plus,
which is like, you know a lot of your shows
are like ninety Day Fiance, You, Me and My Ex
like that do Darcy Darcy and Stacey where they're just.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Like half naked all the time.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Especially now like where they're like leaning into showing more
like intimate scenes and it gets like way more salacious
to the fund. Yeah, I've been more uncomfortable with certain
depictions of like sexual encounters with like cast members on
ninety Day Fiance than I ever have been with anything
like normal, like screen.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Than Fleaback or anything.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, like ninety Day of the Single Life when they
had deb and that old guy just like straight up
like groping each other and.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Making out on screen. Oh, come on, that's come on.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Pause, yeah, pause, here's the strategy we need to strategize.
I'm gonna hit myself in the head with a hammer
and don't call an ambulance for a least fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yeah, but that's that's just mainstream America. That's just he's
a regular, regular guy.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
The regular guy, says me, Nancy, one hundred thousand dollars
ice cream freezer, Pelosi Pulos. We gotta have a second
freezer for your ice cream, right, Yeah, it's gotta be
that drawer kind.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
You're not gonna open like a French.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like that's stupid.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
You want to you want to slide out, you want
to see all those Jenny flavors that are fourteen dollars
of pine or whatever.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yea, and yeah, it's all good. Look good. He's normal.
He's normal, folks, He's normal. He eats Briar's ice cream. Yeah,
he's normal normal.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Be interesting to see if he like doubles down now
if he's like, my guess CEO mentality is like this
is this is his villain origin story. And he starts like.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
The White House White House Correspondence dinner.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, he starts like joining the Elon Musk chats that
he's been inviting him to where he's.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Been talking already.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Absolutely, yeah, if he's not already.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
But again it's not just even this, like look at
where because he's also in charge of CNN and like
look at what happened with that Trump town hall and
like how much they're trying to court Donald Trump back
onto CNN for their just for ratings. Ratings.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Baby, we made the news and that is our job
as people who cover the news.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I heard the quote, make the news. The quote discord
makes my Dick Hoarde is actually a David Saslov quote.
It's actually not Roman Roy.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
But yeah, yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And so Adidas has revealed their strategy
for selling off all right, here's the strategy strategy. All right,
(49:41):
So Panye was the Kanemit pause the Kanye interview. I said,
all right, here's the strategy.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Folks. We either pretend it didn't happen, or we watch
it in feign ignorance after the found it went with both. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
So yeah, after belatedly cutting ties with Kanye, Adidas is
stuck with a ton of Yeasy merch and we're worried
that they'd lose a lot of money if they couldn't
find a way to repurpose all the tainted products. And
their solutions seemed to be just like to sell the
leftover easy sneakers, which apparently they're valuing it one billion dollars.
(50:21):
We'll see what the market it says about that. I
don't think anybody wants to.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Be wearing I mean I've gone on the I've been
on the Yeasy subreddit where fans of the shoes like
all congregate and they it's like manna from heaven time
for these people.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Oh yeah, because I mean they're just shoes.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm telling you, if you were, if you were fucking rock,
you never gave a fuck to be Yeah, you're so
mesmerized by his you're not letting go of that because
and also, I mean, I think every easy thing i've
seen is ugly as hell.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
So if you're wearing that, like you're just into him.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, it's it's a good way to like out yourself.
If someone will like not get great sense or can't
read like the tone of society at the moment, they're like,
you are wearing air himmlers, Okay, do that.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
But yeah, yeah, so they're valuing a at worth one
billion dollars. Proceeds will be donated to various anti racism groups,
including the Anti Defamation League.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
They could Yeah, so it's that's gonna make Kanye angry,
you know where they're going to give a solid what
five percent?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Problem? Yeah, that's the thing. Not all the money is going,
not all of it. Portion of I've seen portion. I've
seen the word chunk.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
I love when a significant amount will be donating. Okay,
the direct quote, how.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
About you assign a dollar amount to that word because
it's a little nebulous family, which am talking here?
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Let's talk a percentage of sales instead of a chunk
a set of what are we doing here, Adidas?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah right exactly. They're like, well, actually, after costs and things,
so like wait, hold on now, what how just how
much money are you giving. That's the thing I'm really
curious by because if they're part of their calculate this
is we're about to take a l We're about to
have to eat a billion dollars worth of product that
we can't sell. Some of that has to be like
how much can we make to be okay with it?
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Not?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Well, the best version is just to give this away
and then you know this, this is how we make
amends for basically looking like we stand by this bullshit.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yeah, because they're still basically making money off of these
products designed by an anti Semitic person who probably will
still get some money out of this. Like I don't
see a way where they sell all this stuff at
a discount and Kanye is not getting like some kind
of percent of that right, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I wonder if like a lot.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Of the negotiations, like the reason it took so long
for them to come up with this here's the strategy,
was because they were trying to get him to sign
off on like a strategy like this. Yeah, you know,
we have to make it look like we are not racist, man, Like,
come on, how we lost.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
The Z At the same time, they cut their deal
with Beyonce and Ivy Park, so they they just maybe
they hate black people, and when are they gonna discount
all the Ivy Park. That's what I'm that's the sale
I'm waiting for.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Really, the last thing I heard about Ivy Park was
that it was like dropping and everybody was like claiming.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Oh no, no, Like there was a big Wall Street
Journal article that was like, yeah, Ivy Park does not sell.
Adidas has lost like billions of dollars on this deal
with Beyonce because no, like none of the like collections
she put out ever recouped the money they spent to
like do it and promote it.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Oh right, right right yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
People were just like there was no clear idea of
like what these clothes were even for. Like people were
just like, when do you see people out wearing Ivy Park.
It's like gym ware and it doesn't make sense. There
were a lot of drops happening that I had, like
very similar clothing, but it would just be different patterns,
I know, because I would buy all of them, right,
and I would just be like, oh cool, these are
(53:59):
the same pain it's just instead of like pink, you
know Ivy Park logos, they're orange Ivy Park logos. Okay, Beyonce, Sure,
here's my eighty dollars, right, and they ended the deal.
They were just like we're done, and everyone is just like, well,
when is that gonna go on discount? When are we
seeing Ivy Park?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
We're actually going to burn the product?
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yeah, and now she has like a designer deal that
I'm like, I'll never be able to afford that, but like,
where is my Ivy Park and the Idida's like outlet mall.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, right exactly coming to a ross near you.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
Yeah, yeah, Oh I have that cowprint skirt too, Yeah, yeah,
but I love that. That was my favorite collection. She
did a whole like denhim cowboy cowprint collection that was
like the peak. I think that's maybe the only one that,
like legit sold out and had good sales. And then
after that it was just downhill and people saying like
(54:53):
where do I wear denim chaps Beyonce?
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Right, and like that's also not what I look for
from Adidas necessarily.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, it's like denim. Yeah. Well I think that's the
other thing too, is like, I mean, look, she's a capitalist.
Her and jay Z have said as much. They know
they're they're there to secure baggage, like shout out to
them for buying a two hundred million dollars house in
Malibu cash money over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Wow only lines they cross his dollar signs and also
pickt lines.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yea told Marmont, Yeah, no problem, wasn't that, wasn't that him?
Wasn't that that was jay Z.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
And then back in like two thousand and seven, it
came out that they were like, the Grammys were happening
during the last writers strike, and they were like, hey, musicians,
you shouldn't perform, like the Grammys aren't going to get
a waiver to do it. And Beyonce was like, I
just straight up came out and was like, I don't
care about the strike. I will perform at the Grammys
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I'm Beyonce Ible.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
It was just like you did not have to say this, why?
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah? That why?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
And like the strike ended the week before the Grammy,
so it was fine, but I just love that she was.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Like, just half way, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Hey, just in case it was unclear to anyone, Oh, yeah,
I don't care. Yeah, I will bring up to a
ligne nobody And I mean Disney is streaming, is purging
a bunch of streaming content, and I feel like we
would be remiss if we did not use this opportunity
Ashley right to ask you, like, what so what we're
losing Willow, We're losing why the Last Man, We're losing
(56:19):
the Turner and Hooch reboots the ask Jeff Goldbloom or
something with like.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
The World according to Jeff The World according to which
came out at a weird time because it was also
when there were like kind of some cancel hymn things
coming out with like young women being like He's kind
of weird, and so that show didn't get a lot
of promotion. But I think what a lot of people
are missing is that there are a lot of Hulu
shows that are being purged in this Disney Hulu blend,
because that's basically what's happening is they're gonna combine Disney
(56:46):
Plus and Hulu into one app. And then Disney said, well, Hulu,
you have to get rid of your like dirty stuff
that isn't Disney aligned. So they got rid of the Premise,
which is a really funny show that bj Novak did
that looks like gun Control. There's like the best episode
is about this guy who designs the world's best like
anal dildo, And obviously Disney was like, no, thank you,
(57:10):
but if you get the chance to see it before
it's taken off forever on like May twenty sixth or
the twenty fourth, go watch all the premise. They also
took off Maggie, which was like a sweet little rom com,
you know, modern day girl dating. Same with Everything's Trash,
which was Phoebe Robinson and was basically about like a trashy, dirty,
slutty black girl. We don't get that kind of representation,
(57:32):
so it felt really cool. And I think they also
took off oh what was it it was the premise Maggie, Oh,
and Dolphace, which that one was shocking because Hulu fought
to keep Dolphace canceled High Fidelity, which people that was
like the TV version of the movie had so many
Zoe Kravitz in it. Everyone was like, this is gonna
(57:53):
be a hit, but it was so expensive. They were like,
we don't want that. We're gonna focus our money on Dollphace.
They made two more seasons. It had like Cat Dennings.
It was pretty funny, and now they're just like, screw that.
Take it all off the internet. No one can ever
see it again.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
So yeah, and we're out.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
It reminds me of the latest season of Barry where
they like debut that series on like some streaming platform
and it's like number one for a night and then
the next day they cancel it.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
They cancel the algo, the right al go.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
Yeah, and it is a lot of this is like
shows they didn't promote, like I know, people didn't hear
about Maggie, and so it's like you could still promote
these things and have people watch them and have them
become cult hits, but then guess what, they get popular
and you're paying residuals to people because people are watching
these shows and that's not what they want.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
So right, yeah, just yeah, and it sucks.
Speaker 4 (58:51):
I have so many friends who have written on these
shows and then also wrote on like the HBO shows
that are coming down, and now I have multiple friends
who are like the last three shows I've worked on,
you can't watch anywhere.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
They don't exist, right, they don't.
Speaker 4 (59:03):
Exist like you. They're not on illegal streaming sites usually
unless they kind of were big enough. I think doll
Face because it had multiple seasons you could probably watch
on an illegal site. But like the premise, nobody paid
attention to that show when it came out. Nobody knew
bj Novak did a whole show.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
I felt like I only knew about it because you
were tweeting about it. Initial.
Speaker 4 (59:25):
Yeah, I was the only person tweeting and talking about it.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
And it's really good.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
It has Tracy Ellis, ross, Iowed Barry like so many
good people in it. And I thought for sure, like, oh,
the fx bj Novacs, it's going to ride that wave
of like the Bear and all of this, And instead
it's you know, them just kind of taking away shows
that also make the history and culture of these dating
apps or of dating apps, of these streaming apps, and
(59:52):
of what people are interested in unclear. When you just
take these shows off, you don't see like, oh, there
was a resurgence of like female led rom coms during
this time where we got dollphase, high fidelity, everything's trash,
And instead it's just, oh, it never happened. And in
the future when it's like, oh, why aren't there these
like female led comedies, why is everything so male focused,
(01:00:14):
and it's like, oh, because they erased it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Right, they're gonna be like, did nothing get made between
twenty twenty and twenty twenty three. Yeah, it's just like,
actually everything got made.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Yeah, everything got made and just was erased.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
And obviously a lot of the shows that are getting
cut are shows that feature a lot of diversity that
come from people of color. A lot of the HBO
Max shows that got cut had to do with, you know,
Gordida Chronicles, Latina Showrunners, and I think with Disney, the
biggest thing that shocked people was that they wanted to
remove their documentary Herald, which is about the guy who
(01:00:52):
basically created The Little Mermaid and made Disney like this
huge animated movie like hit Destination Studio.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
He was gay, and then Disney.
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Was like, with the Little Mermaid reboot coming out, was
like take it off, we don't want.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
The new Little Mermaid reboot is dedicated to the memory
of Howard Ashman. And then how the documentary Howard was
is being taken off. They they reversed course because they
recognized this as a bad look.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Yeah, so many people are like, do you really want
to get rid of the one documentary about a gay
guy right before Pride Month? And also when you just
put a movie out decaded to him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Right right, dedicated to his memory, with.
Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Which we would like to erase because we are to
the memory of him, all the memory, not to anything
that could hurt our stock price. If you know, some
conservative see gay in our content.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Right exactly? I told you they're anyway. But yeah, good
luck to them as they're their ongoing fight against ron Santis,
Like we're like Jesus Christ, that battle where everyone loses.
But hey, we'll see where that ends up too.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Ashley, such a pleasure having you back on the show.
Where can people find you and follow you?
Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Follow me at the Ashley Ray on all the platforms, Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, whatever.
And if you're in New York June sixth, I'll be
recording my debut album at Union Hall. Yeah, ice cream money,
get your tickets, they're on sale, and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, gotta be good shows. II can pull up there.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
It's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Gotta you have an outfit for this stand up special.
Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
I think I'm gonna go full Ibuy Park, full Ivy Parks.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, there you go. Let them know ahead of time.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Oh, I gotta give it to the randal Scandal documentary
that just came out on Hulu today. It is about
Randall from the vander Pump Rules universe. I know everyone
is talking about the scandalval issue in that whole affair,
but the randal scandal is about La LA's husband band
who like cheated on her, was super abusive to all
(01:03:02):
of his assistants, and then it comes out that he
like stole money from fifty cent and was part of
the whole like elder abuse against Bruce Willis, and also
is involved in vander Pump Rules.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
And I had no idea about any of this and
it very good.
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Ough just makes the vander Pump Rules watching experience even better.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
The Randall scandal, Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Oh yeah, the Randall scandal.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Miles, where can people find you? Is there a working
media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
This sounds like a like a new influencer or kind
of like Joy and the Scammer kind of there's like, yo,
there's Randall scandal. That's a council late Randall scandal. Find
me at Miles of Gray wherever they got at symbols.
Find Jack and I on our podcast not sad Boosties,
but my noice. Miles and Jack got mad Boosties. It's
still mad Boosties. It's not sad boosties because at the
(01:03:51):
contemplative Boosties. Contemplative Boosties because yeah, the Celtics are also
in a way as well. So I can go to
sleep with that on my mind. Also, Sophia Alexandra on
four to twenty fiance. Right now we're talking about love
is blind because I'm catching up since the baby, I've
been so behind, but I got to get get I'm
getting it all in. I want to be able to talk,
got to be able to participate in the discourse because actually.
Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Yeah, oway, can I also say, and if you want
more TV talk for me, please listen to TV, I
say on Earwolf wherever.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
You listen to pocket, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
The most they pay me the people to say that
to people.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Look, we smoke weed. It's it's easy to not get
caught talking about TV. Like every week TV, I say, oh, yeah,
that's what I do, right right, that par that's what
I do. Uh And then let's see. Uh do I
like work of media? I don't think. So what did
I see? I saw something recently?
Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
No, no, Miles saw all your tweets and found them lacking.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Yeah, it was not entertained even a little timeline.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, what can I.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Say at Extra Napkins tweeted a picture of a big,
like family sized Eminem MS package and it says it's
just like on the side, it has the blue eminem
with sunglasses on it with like sticking his finger up
in the air like he's vibing out or something, and
it says electronic music brings the energy for a summer
(01:05:14):
full of fun. And Extra Napkins tweeted, why is Eminem's
saying this to me? That?
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
That's that was for thirty years. That was the entire
marketing strategy of Pepsi was just to be like, we
all like music, right, Music's fucking cool anyways, drink pepsi?
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Hey, are you talking to me right now? Music?
Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Drink PEPs You should drink Pepsi.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
But I think they gave up on that strategy because
they no longer had the Super Bowl shows this year,
So I'm wondering, Oh yeah, maybe maybe Eminem's is trying
to step in and be like, we like to dance, right,
And when you think of dance music, think of Eminem Think.
Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Yeah, when you're turning up on Molly.
Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Yeah, they are like.
Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Little nothing better in your mouth than dehydrating Eminem's.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
That we talked about in today's episode, as well as
a song that we think you might enjoys.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
The song you think people.
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Might well, we were just talking about the demise of
idy Park. So allow me to resurrect Beyonce one more
time because over the weekends she dropped a track weekend
Rick and his verse is wild on it. It's called
America as a Problem, Yeah, which already knew that the
remix with Kung Fu Kenny, So yeah, check this one out.
(01:06:56):
It's uh, it's fun, like it's like the second time
they've hit a track on Lemonade again. It's on Lemonade. Yeah,
so great, great collaborators, just letting you know, you know,
they're still und despite the Ivy Park not being on
the Shilm.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah, all right, well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production
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Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
You listen to your favorite shows.
Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
That is going to do it for us this morning,
back this afternoon to tell you what it is trending,
and we'll talk to you all then.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Bye bye,