Keep Crying Theo Von, Disrespecting The Dearly Departed 09.25.25

In episode 1937, Miles and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by comedian, musician, host of Cold Brew Got Me Like, and subject of the documentary Nashville Famous, Chris Crofton, to discuss… Please Cry For Theo Von, A.I. Stan Lee May Be The Worst Dead Celebrity Grift Yet and more!

1. Please Cry For Theo Von
2. An AI Stan Lee Hologram Will Speak With Fans at L.A. Comic Con
3. Marvel Fans Slam 'Ghoulish' L.A. Comic Con Decision to Resurrect Stan Lee Via an AI Hologram and Charge $20 for a 3-Minute Conversation
4. Proto’s Text-To-Persona AI Holographic Twin demonstration with Howie and Raffi
5. Suzanne Somers AI robot
6. Eternal Celebrities: The Multi-Billion Opportunity Coming
7. Raising the Dead: Understanding Post-Mortem Rights of Publicity
8. The Last Days of Stan Lee
9. Marvel Signs Deal to Insert CGI Stan Lee Cameos Into Future Films
10. The late Stan Lee's Twitter account is being used to hawk NFTs and people are pissed
11. Stan Lee Becomes NFT Superhero, Illustrating A Downward Shift In Prices
12. The Powell Memo

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Are these Are you creating a seat of books?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Chris? I thought you were bringing media to recommend.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Are you sitting on books? Chris? What are you doing
with all the books? Make it big? Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I got to record our Yeah, I don't think he's
got his headphones in, so we're literally just roasting him.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Vers is a legend because his over unders are going
to take seventy minutes. Just so you know, Paul, I
don't know if you never if you.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Don't mean to judge a book by its cover.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
But it's amazing. No, no, no, this is this is a
whole other texture. When Chris is on the show and.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I'm gonna started my recording, So do you have headphones?
And I'll put my headphones on and okay, then we'll
do a cold open.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Then we'll do it.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I think we have one, actually, I think yeah, this
is couldn't get any colder than this.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Let's warm it up. Which did you did you leave
the Evil Company? Chris? His headphones on it?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
His headphones are not on it.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
But I thought he was hearing us.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
No, No, wasn't. The whole time I was him not here?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
There you are, Chris?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Okay, I can now I got to get you guys
your picture back, because I'm now I'm looking at my audacity.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can't. I gotta get your picture back. Whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Listen, there's no no elder abuse. No no, no, no no.
That's what people say.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Elder abuse, Miles.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
They said, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, no, no, no elder abuse.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
No no, no elder no attributed person in the midst
of elder abuse.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Is that what the kids call it? They probably do,
No elder eldo abbo.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
No eldaboo, no, no l daboo, hell oldabo nowhere here.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Doug Miles did some elder abuse and then I said,
no elder abuse, and he said no, no, no, no,
no no yeah the old Donald Trump technique.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
No no, no no no no, no no no no
now Hello the Internet, and welcome to what is this
Season four or seven, Episode four of The Daily is
I guess the production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast

(02:16):
where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
It is and it is also Thursday, September twenty fifth,
twenty twenty five. No rapture in sight, y'all. What the
fuck Jesus? We were waiting for you guy, and now
sold everything sold.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I sold the dog collars because I assumed they'd come
back to me.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I it was one dollar on Facebook marketplace.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Do people go try and get their rapture sales shit
back where they're like, hey, I didn't have any here.
I get that back from you.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Since I feel like they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, well, hey, maybe there's some other stuff in the
book of ghost stories called the Bible that they can
drum up to make everybody feel happy on a day
that they'll be taken away. It's also National Open the
Magic Day. I don't even know what the fuck that is,
National Daughter's Day, National a Day, National Lobbyster Day, National
Research Administrator Day, National Tune Up Day, National Comic Book

(03:15):
Math Storytelling Day, and National One Hit Wonder Day. Shout
out all the one hit wonders, Wow, one Hit Wonder.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
They're not going to shout back because yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
They're they're asking me to get on the show, which
they all do. I told Goutier, I was like, dude, sorry,
I can't have it on. You know, I know you
want to come on. I know your zigang, but like,
I don't know if people a really fucking with you anymore.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Anyway, now he's just somebody that you used to know exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
My name is Miles Great aka the Lord of Lancersham,
the Blasian Willem Dafoe. Everybody know. Okay and this I'm
also the showgun with no Gun and I'm thrilled to
be joined by my co host today, wonderful talented comedian.
I still consider you one of the most the high
profile scientists I know, and by default that is true.
You're one of the only scientists I know. You are

(04:02):
still a scientist. You are a great comedian. You are
a great writer. You're a great empathetic person human being.
Check out facial recognition comedy shows also, but please welcome
to the my guest host today.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I feel like this is an intervention for my self esteem.
You're like, sit down, I need to.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Talk to you. You're just crazy about you.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Wrote letters for you because you know what you got
to get out of the house.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Your your stand up comedy has negatively impacted my life
in the following ways.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
This is literally me like visiting my parents.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
If parents say they like, you have an intervention because
I'm not doing the job you wanted.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm like, I'm just here to hang out. With my nephew.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yet think I'm asking how he.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Pulls out a letter he can barely speak, he doesn't
know how to read, but he also.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Has This is how your open micing has a negatively
effected my life. It's like I don't really do open
mics anymore.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Anyway, here we are poly but you know we got
the cold Brew God here himself and the guest turn
you know what I mean? This is the advice King.
This is the man who cold brew turns him into
a kind of superman. Will somebody also has a wonderful
film made about him, and I hope that When the

(05:17):
show came around to Los Angeles and I left some
tickets for y'all, y'all came through to see Nashville famous.
This man is Nashville famous. This man is a wonderful
human being. This man is the lord of Chaos himself.
Please welcome Chris Craft.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
He grows up. How are you guys doing good to
see him? How come you guys didn't sing any akka
is today?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, I still don't have access to the discord where
people apparently are writing the Aka's miles.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
You don't have access to the discord, No, I don't
even know where it is to look. I was looking
at my mastress, my medicine cabinet.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
The way I've been trying to keep the discord from
being like fully brigaded by people who aren't like the
real genuine zygang article. You know, the vibes are important,
and shout out all the mods who keep the shit going.
I'm the one sending them on. And I know a
lot of y'all been asking hit me up again. I
say this all the time. If you want the discord invite,
hit me up again.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I will be sending I would brigade it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
There you go, there's an invite.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
God's incredible. You know what. I don't want to go now?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Chris, you got a song? You got a song?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I just I just usually like I just have. Well,
I got sent some but they're like about songs.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't know the songs because they're fans are young.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
We'll try.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So whis to the tune of is out of your
wheelhouse in terms of experience?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Unable to accept invite? What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
The first one I have is is to the to
the tune of float by ASoP Rock.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, you don't I don't know that one.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, wait, what what what would you think a SAP
stands for?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
ASoP rock? Though? Is different? Not asap rocky different different.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I'm the old one now, Yeah, this is this is
what I've heard of ASoP rock.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I just don't listen to.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I listened to, you know, pretty much exclusively Gordon Lightfoot,
so I don't I don't know ace up rock. I mean,
I know who he is, but I'm not gonna listen
to a rock. If I was gonna listen to a
soop rock, I mean, I would probably listened to like,
oh fuck, try and call Quest or something. I just
listen to older ship, you know. But it says here

(07:23):
it floats when buffets all around me are busy drowning.
Mine floats when Saucy Mannicotti is usually what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That doesn't even say guys, only send Gordon Lightfoot akas
to Chris. This is from.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Elder snarfil Rocks, which is so thank you so much.
I just don't know that. The next one is to
the tune of Coney Island by Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, sitting on a.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Bench in Coney Island wondering where to Chris Crofton Go,
the Fun Times, the Cold brewth Coaster. Yo, sorry that
you had to find my vape pen though.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's cute.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
So that's Snarfila Rocks. It's very nice, but I'll just separate. Yeah,
thank you Snarfilo. I just didn't understand the other ones
just exclusively about Italian food. The ASoP rock one Italian food,
and that's what I don't get. No, it floats when
one buffets around me, are all around me about the
saucy manicotti is usually drowning.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
It floats. This is the thing about doing this show
is we say things that we instantly forget and then
the listeners synthesize it into it thing. And half the
time I'm like did I say that? And then sometimes
I'll ask you and they're like, yes, you said it
in this episode, like that's right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
But anyway, thank you Snarfila Rocks. I'll just do one
of my own. Notice for the fun of it. M M.
I've been afraid of Chris Crofting because I built my
life around Chris Crofton. But time makes you older children
and get older, and I'm getting older too, and then

(09:04):
I remember the part, Wait, what's the part the Chris
Crofton brings it down. I'm doing Landslide by Fleetwood.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Mac Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta keep going.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I was gonna put Chris Crofton in the Landslide part,
but I can't remember how to get there.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
But that's it. That's it, And look, we're glad to
be on the show. It's great to have you, Chris.
We're gonna tell people a little bit about what we
might talk about, what we might not get to. I
just want to I just want to take a moment
where we should all cry for theo Von and all
the comedy bros who ushered in the Trump administration because
he's he's found himself a new gig as the unwinning

(09:38):
spokesperson for ice deportations. So we'll get into that. And
then also there's just there's an LA Comic Con that's
happening in La this month, and there's going to be
an Ai Stan lead that you can do like a
meet and greet with and.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It's so we're gonna all have me I psychosis.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well just don't look at it
and you're your fine.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well the Charlie kirk one is like you couldn't avoid it,
and it's like we're.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
With Charlie Kirk. One.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
There were like three or four Charlie Kirk he got
his AI got a standing ovation at his memorial and
people were like, I cried about this, Like.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
He's like, I saw some at Jesus.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I'm with Jesus now.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I saw a church that they played like at a
mega church. They played a yanky vocal AI. Yeah, and
he's like, it's me, I'm in heaven, but don't feel bad. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
There were like multiple of them going around immediately.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
But I'm just like and people were like, it's what
he would have said. It was nut.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
No, no, no, Well that's the thing about AI. It's
bad for us, but I've always just reading for.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Us either, like about that the services they throw at
us to like make it like, oh yeah, you should
let us build like fifteen million water powered servers in
your neighborhood is because like then you can get your essay,
you know, you can have your essay for school written
without doing any work or whatever. They're pushing it as

(11:09):
AI is like only for oligarchs. I mean the real
function of AI is to control populations. And so it's
like I just thought about that the other day, Like,
I keep thinking, like people are like, no one likes AI.
Why do they keep pushing AI? No one likes it?
It's because it's not for us.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, they're true, don't you agree, Batman? Batman totally agrees
with you. He's sitting in my living room.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Great, it's not it's not supposed to be like that's
it's I don't know how to because they're.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Trying to find a consumer hook to get people that
sort of buy in so they can make it profitable,
because they've already put something in like seven hundred and
seventy billions, some seven hundred billion dollars, which is the
most like of all tech investment ever, And.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
But they don't seem worried that it's not popular. And
I think that's suspicious, and it's because that's.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
But that's the thing where they're they're looking at the
stock market and they're like, well, the stock market's going
to have a reaction to this regardless of what they think,
because people are putting their money into it thinking they're like, well,
this is going to be profitable. But I do agree,
like I think a lot of that there is to
have some new form of like information infrastructure or a
way to control information that it's hard to describe doing

(12:17):
a great job.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's like a flight simulator for like killing actual people.
That They also turn some version of of loose on
the market and you can use it as like a
game for your kid or something. It's like, oh yeah,
it's like I don't know. It's like AI is not
for us. That brings us all I can think.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That brings us to our first question, Chris, which is
what is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are or what you're into.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
It's a perfect segue because normally, Paula, I would do
something where I would say a YouTube video that I've
been listening.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
To want you to watching too, it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Watching you just already gave up.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Can we re schedule? No, But.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
I this time, I'm going to talk about my podcast.
Colbrew got me Like, so I did one the other
day and I noticed that, like they've started doing these.
I noticed it before, but I never really read them.
They started doing AI chapters on your podcast like Against
your Will on Spotify, Like like they they AI will

(13:26):
say what your podcast is about in chapters like here,
like you know that AI quote listens to it and
then spits out these chapters right, And at first I
was I was just like, I don't want that service,
but I don't think that it I can't find a
way to turn it off. But I also thought about
what it's for. It's like if I say I have
a podcast, like I'm going through customs or something, and
they're like, you have a podcast. We see what's it about,

(13:47):
you know, and it's like, oh, it's called Coldbrew got me,
Like it's just about funny stuff, and they're like, okay, well.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Talking about some pretty stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
We can just refer to the fucking summary here. We
don't have to your podcasts. You're a fucking liberal.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I fucked your mom, And guys like what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, so this this, this cold Brew got me, Like
podcast sounds harmless, but it's really all about what we're
facing today. And so it's also sometimes you know, it's funny,
but it's it's it's kind of a serious podcast. But
like anyway, I'm I just don't like the idea that
AI can tell these fools whether you're a liberal in
two seconds, or whether liberal I hate the word liberal,

(14:25):
whether you're anti.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Fascist terrorist nowadays I know, I know, they so can.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Them to the club every non brown person, So.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
You can tell them so they can find out if
you're like, you know, they can find out other ways.
But anyway, listen to this summary of my podcast. And
also what's funny about it is this. First of all,
it's it's dystopian. But second of all, it's funny because
it makes my podcast sound so fucking depressing.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
It's incredible.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Oh my god, so great. Greg was couldn't be on
the show. So this last one I did by myself. Okay,
the title of the podcast is Free Solo four the
Great Toaster Scam, So that's what you're missing. By the way,
if you're not listening to my podcast, find out what
that is. I would assume you'd like to know what
Free Solo four the Great Toaster Scam is about. You

(15:14):
should want to know, so anyway, here you can find
out right here. Chapter one, Capitalism's Toaster Scam and New Beginnings.
Chapter two, Sound Bath Tennessee and Capitalism's Mental Toll. Chapter three,
Unpacking the Charlie Kirk corporate clickbait phenomenon. Chapter four, The

(15:36):
Lonely Illusion of the American dream.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Waitness is fired Dude.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Chapter one, two, three, four, five, six, Recognizing Authoritarianism, Project
twenty twenty five and Wealth Concentration Chapter seven, The Advice
King Redefining Poor in America. Chapter eight, living off twentieth
century fumes, colon Global Corruption.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Nine.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You're in a Louisiana prison.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm sorry, Oh.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
My god, that's what I'm I just think it's anyway
that the rest of the rest.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Is also, so we're delighted in the ai some price.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know, you actually tell people you podcast like out loud.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, I mean I don't. I don't go through customs
very much, so it's like usually harmless. I'm just telling
like people, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Trying to get the podcast out there.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, you see, I'm just telling like the people who
are like, you know, my ketamine, the people who are
giving me my ketemine. I tell them about my podcast
and they're like, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I just say I tell people I sell bespoke guns
for dogs. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, Like they're like, oh,
these are like bespoke guns, like pistols I create for dogs,
so cute. Yeah, And then they're like, okay, great, that
guy makes dog guns. They don't have to.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Say all of you, I'm also doing ketamine therapy, and
so I like the same way I promote when I
was having panic attacks panic tax back in the nineties
and I'd get an ambulance ride and I'd promote my
CD to the ambulance guy.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, like promoted my standus. One of my paramedics follows
me on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yes, that's exactly right. And that's that's where people who
are like, yeah, like who are the true artists? Are
outside the system promoting their ship to medical providers, right right, right,
And that's the audience you gotta tap man one physical
therapist at a time. That's my model for fame.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Physical occupational therapist at the times. Read the word.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
And I'm telling these people like physical therapists and like
ketamine administrators, they're all like nurse, I don't know how
to say it, like medical systems and stuff, and they're
like they're just pretty square, you know a lot of
the time, especially in Tennessee. And so I try and
tell them about my podcast, and I just can't imagine
like them watching reading that summary and me trying to
tell them it's a fun podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Right right right, They're like, it's super fun. It's not.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I know it sounds I know, the lonely illusion of
the American dream makes it sound depressing, but.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
But it's also it's it's such a universal experience people
are having right now, so you know they'll probably hear
and they're like, oh my god. I well, no, no,
I didn't think about this.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I recommend the podcast, even though you know, I do
admit that living off twentieth century fumes colon global corruption doesn't.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Sound that fun.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
It is really relevant to physical therapist, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
So I tell people I have a podcast like that,
you know, you know, it's not helpful. Probably I don't
always tell them. I mean it depends, like, am I
ketymine people. I've been doing Kenemine now for like six months,
so like I know those people pretty well. So then
eventually they just start asking what.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I yeah, right right right yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
And I'm also on a drug that makes me talk
because I'm high, you know, so I started telling them
all this stuff. That's how I started telling my my
guy takes my blood pressure, Xavier. I tell him, you know,
like he's like, what are you listening to it?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm like, okay, hippa, yeah, and I'll say John Denver
and he goes John Dunbar.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Wait, miser, that is John Dunbar.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, he didn't know. He didn't also know. He's like,
I was like, you don't know who John Denver is.
He's like thirty years old. Yeah, a thirty year old
black man. He has no fucking idea. He's like, no,
I have no who who?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
We have a good time, Like He'll been listening to
like the old white guy trying to tell him about John.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Denver John Dunbar. Dude, i'ven John John Dunbar.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Chris, what's something you think that is under rated? Oh?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Underrated is my new service that I just started offering,
which is and you guys can let me know what
you think about it, but I think it's a good
idea and I'm dead serious about it. It's called Chris
Crofton's punch Ups and it's it's seventy five bucks an hour,
and it's like a sliding scale. If you can only
pay fifty bucks an hour, it's fine, but it's over zoom.

(19:49):
And it's me helping people with like how to write poetry,
how to write a song, how to get out of
your own way. It's not a life coach thing, Like
I think I could offer something, but it's not going
to be a thing where you can text me at
the hour of the day or because life coach is
like it's like a whole thing. Like I think I
might be a good life coach, but I also think
I don't want. I just I'm not trained.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
On the responsibility of being a life coach.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Can I tell you like an insane life coach story
from this week?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, sure, do you have a life coach?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, but let's okay.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
So we had somebody on a show who was a
life coach and they just had like a conference for
these life coaches, and so they invited a bunch of
life coaches to the show. So the entire audience was
like French people and life coaches and I don't know
what the overlap was, and it was like the J.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Shetty life coaching pyramid scheme. And I only realized it
was because of their like rabid defense of him. As
people were working, they were like, how much did you pay?
And the audience member was like, none of your business.
Oh yeah, And then we found out it was like
ten thousand dollars for like six months of work, and

(21:03):
then we found out that he gives wonderful advice like
you need to be the tree that shades the other
people in your life.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
That I was gonna use that are you? That means
you're caddy, Like, oh, I shade all the people in
my life. But no, they.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Literally were like, but in the good way, good.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Shade, Like they said that right after and then shade,
good shade.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And then they were like, and you have all the
resources you ever need to do anything that you want.
And like because of how bad they were with people
and how they didn't know how to laugh at jokes,
and then also like how intense they were about Jay
Shaddy and how amazing he was. I was like, oh,
this is a cult. Like I didn't even have I
had I'd.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Seen him like online, and I was like, he seems
too rich to be talking about this shit, But like.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
No, the life coaching thing is such a wave of
like that influencer people are like riding too because like
Sign of the Recession, well you don't need any credit
because like Tony Robbins, you know, like really kind of
kick that whole ship off, and he's like watch this bro.
I just say things with confidence to a group of
unhappy people and they think, oh god.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
It's not really regulated.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
They discussed the name of their accreditation every time they said,
we're Jay Shetty something something accredited Life, and I'm like,
that means nothing to me.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
That's right, And so I don't want to do that.
I want to make I want to I want to
make it like it's really about writing. And I understand,
like AI like punch Ups with Chris Crofton is my
idea because punching up is like, you know, punching up
a script or something where you get script and basically
it's like how to write a poem, how to write

(22:45):
a song? How do I can I also can punch up,
like like I can help you fix yourself like a
wedding speech. I can help you fix a wedding speech.
I can help you. But you know, like people would say,
like AI could do that, like I'm not offering something. Hey,
it doesn't have taste, and I if you think it's
I just think seventy five bucks an hour is like

(23:05):
what Like I just I'm gonna try and take this
seriously like you could.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Take it's a class it's a class.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
It's a writing class basically, but I will get into
if you want to know how to be creative, I
can help you with that. But I'm not going into
like therapy. I'm not talking about it. We're not talking
about your family. We're not doing something you can you
can take multiple classes and I can teach you how
to write a song. I've been trying to think of
how to brand it, but I just came up with
Chris Crafton's punch ups because I meant like, punch up
your you know, whatever it.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Is, and also learn how to punch up, like against trash.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Punch up.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I like that too. I like that too, poll of you.
That's that was another part of it. Yeah, like I
like the term. So Chris Crafton's punch ups. You can
get get at me at Best of Bread at gmail
dot com under an hour on zoom, and that's you know,
anyway underrated, underrated.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
But don't start rating family. Don't talk about your childhood's well.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
No, it's like yeah, and also if you fucking want
to do it, like think of it as a seventy
five dollars hour long cameo and then it's a fucking at.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Barbain or yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
I think people are you know, celebrity metal detectorists are
offering you know, just just to hang out. Have them
say like I'd like to detect at your mom's house
or whatever they would say on a zoom. But you know,
like the people pay seventy five dollars for that.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Exactly. You're you're an AI chatbot who is a human
being who will actually render better more human results and connection.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
And I can help you, right, I mean I know
how to Like it took me forever when I first
started writing songs. I tried to write like sound Guard
for example, like in a sound Guard right like, and
I tried to like, look at me, I'm like a
redheaded guy Connecticut, and I can't sing about like riding
a pack of dogs, you know, like Chris Cornell has

(24:52):
like you can buy that coming from him. But I
was trying to do that for like three years. I
filled notebooks with stuff about riding packs, like what's.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
The most what's the cringiest lyric? You wrote that? You
still think? Were like, oh my god, I'll tell you one.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, this crosses over into alcoholism too. I don't know
if I've ever said this on the show. But like
you like, like they are these famous like uh Freud
or somebody or other and Freud and like, let's say
Freud and Copernicus, this is not.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Correct, are you know historically.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Are hanging out And they both did nitrous and then
like they were so excited and the next morning they
wrote something on a blackboard that they were really excited about.
And they wrote hogamist higamus woman polygamous, higgemus hogamists man
is monogamous, and which of course is you know, uh
sexist clap trap on first clap trap.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Listen to me.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
That's first time it's ever been said on a podcast.
But you know, anyway, so they just thought they had
some breakthrough and they went back and looked at the
blackboard and they said, my god, you know, drugs don't work.
So my moment for that was the worst lyric I
ever wrote. So I like this night, I got wasted
and I fucking like woke up in the yard clutching
cheese and and I and I and I was like

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but like I was like, oh, you know, you know,
I locked myself out of the house, I ship in
the yard whatever, and uh, and then I was like,
but oh, I wrote that thing on my hand.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, I wrote that thing on my hand.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
That's gonna make it all worth it, because that's what
this is all about. I'm a kowski, I'm rambo. I'm
doing hard work to get the poetry, and the poetry
is right in my hand. I remember I wrote it
on there, and I opened my hand up and it
said naked as the day I.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Was born on it. Wow. There's a lot of work,
a lot of work to get to that.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
So I would say that was This is so similar
like stand ups will like write the most serial killer
ass ship in our notebooks, like you do.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Stuff, yeah, and then you're like, oh, it's a joke
and you're like, I don't remember what that was. Yeah. Yeah,
my notes app is a fucking mess. All right, let's
take a quick break when we come back overrated after
this and we're back Chris crofton what's up? You can't

(27:05):
forget tell us something that's overrated.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I was gonna say overrated, and this will spill into
like I think I've since bill into twice. I've never
said that in my life.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
This is a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm just glad.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, So overrated is calling what's happening is politics. This
is not politics, and much like like AI is not
for us, it's for like, it's for controlling us, and
and they're gonna throw us some Look, you can make
a picture, turn it. You can make a dog that's
just a regular picture and do a dog that barks.
We can make a dog bark. We can make your

(27:43):
family dog come back to life and run around next
to your mom or whatever. And it's like, I will
use this. Yes, that's what's really up. And so they're
just trying to keep people on board with it by
being like it also can do this stupid ship that
you will then be like I like AI, No, I
think we should do AI. Just look, it made my
birthday present open automatically in the picture. I don't know

(28:07):
what they use it for.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
But overrated is calling things that are one thing another thing.
This isn't politics, this is this is a coup.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is not.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Every minute that we treat this like something that can
be solved through elections is another minute we're gaslighting ourselves.
This is not I wrote a.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Column vote blue no matter who.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, sure, yeah that's good.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah, you know vote, yeah, and the vote for King
Jefferies was just like, I think one way we could
do this is we could just wait them out.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
That was his new one.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
His new one is like they better watch it because
the statute of limitations is five years, so when he's gone,
they're all going to get prosecuted. And you're like, in
what course, the dickhead, what are you talking about? You're
just letting them fucking run rough shot over the the
funniest thing because you're like, his plan is basically like,
you know what one.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Thing we could do is just wait for this all
to end? Yeah? Oh just and then did they go
away yet? No? At the end after it.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Ends, ll VALI quiet, yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
So I recommend my advice callum. The new one, it's
called How to Heal the Political Divide, came out like
last week and it's just about this is not this
is a loss of narrative. This is in capitalism. God
is a secular god. It's the prosperity gospital. It's a
ranch house, it's having a kid's college fund, it's having
some leftover money to.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Have a lake house. That's all gone.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
So people are completely lost our God, our God, the
secular god of the American dream, has left the fucking building.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't know why you think your podcast is depressing.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Side note, I don't, yeah, exactly, the secular god of
America has left the building. And also what uh I'm
I'm trying to think of some current event thing. But
also Charlie's their run's doing another movie about Barbarella or
whatever that fucking car crashing thing is.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I love those, Crisy, because you're like, I don't know
a lot of movies, but you had to pull from
the ones you did know. You're like Barberella, Yeah, yeah,
you know, Barbara.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Barbara in the desert with the cars animating.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
And also hashtag Charlie Stern. So I'm not totally depressing.
Don't worry, like we're gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
We'll be fine. No, but it's true. I mean, like
there's this whole thing there. There was a poll recently
where like seventy percent of Americans like there is no
fucking American dream anymore. Like what are you fucking talking about?
And you have all these politicians who, because they have
reached a place of comfort or prosperity that they just
assume that like that that's kind of the case for

(30:45):
most people, or they just they were just completely indifferent
to it that you are able to say shit like
earnestly like or we're just gonna wait them out because
you live in some weird, fucking magical, you know, insulated fantasy,
fantasy chamber where none of these things are possible because
you just you know, you can't see it. You can't

(31:06):
see the degradation happening in real time like everybody else can't.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Right, I don't know what we're gonna do. That's the
only thing because because we carry these tracking devices in
our pockets called phones that tell them with a couple
presses of a button whether your podcast is liberal or conservative.
They can look at your search history and find out
whether you go to Huffington Post or Drudge Report. It's
not it's not easy to figure out even how to

(31:30):
resist this shit because they've been putting things in place
for thirty years now, since since well twenty five years
since the Patriot Act, where they've made it so you
can you can just declare someone a terrorist and put
them in jail in definitely, so it's like it's not
the safety their boat.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah, I like I had always had the complacency
of like, well, nothing I do is that important, so
it's fine. But it's like they're just disappearing regular people
all the time, left and right. So it's like it's
not fine, it's not okay, and I don't want to
be Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
No, And like the Powell Memo, which was this memo
written by this guy named Powell, as you might assume,
came out in the late sixties, and he's just this
corporate dude who ran a company that made who knows
what typewriters or something, and he was just like, we're
not having another sixties ever again. So they've been working
on this ever since then.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, oh like and he was like, let's make sure
we don't.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Or yes, we're never having this again. We're never educating
the public on this level. We're going to destroy education
except for in certain pockets of the country where you
could be guaranteed these kids are going to grow up
to be capitalists. Everywhere else, we are dumbing the education
system down. They educated, they educated that everybody in America
super well in the middle of the twentieth century because
they thought we had to compete with Russia and so

(32:44):
but when the sixties came along, they realized, oh my god,
we created this monster. These are just well educated people
being like, we're not gonna go fucking work and make
lamps or whatever you want us to do. We're going
to have a life. And they're like, we can never
have that again. So this guy wrote a specific man
saying we are never ever going to We're going to
sabotage every single part of the system that created this moment.

(33:08):
The nineteen sixties for the for capital was a huge moment,
and it wasn't. The wasn't because Crosby, Stills and Nash
was in Laurel Canyon or whatever the fuck we have
to listen about hear about for the rest.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Of our lives Laurel Canyons.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Like you know, that's like more of that bait and
switch stuff, like that's not what really happened. What really
happened was there was an actual civil rights movement and
has nothing to do with fucking Joni Mitchell, even though
I love Joni Mitchell, But that's how we talk about
the sixties.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
The sixties.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Sixties actually an amazing moment. Sixties was an amazing moment
that they've been working ever since to make sure it
never happens again. Yeah, they've got everything in place now for.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
It not to have. The Palmo memo is chilling, because
it really is. It's truly just articulating. It's like this
attack against enterprise, you know, like the way they view
this whole this whole system of our financial system, and
where the power should lie in the role of the
chamber of commerce, so the role of business executives, and
how to keep this project going. It's pretty stark. You know.

(34:05):
There's a whole section about like evaluation of textbooks, like
you know, they all need to they're all the and
again like you're saying, and here we are now where
you know, eighth graders, twelfth graders and the latest Nations
report card or like reading and doing math at like
the lowest levels ever and they're reading comprehension is much lower.
And you know, like you can see, like with people's

(34:26):
lack of critical thinking skills, even as it relates to
things like who they vote for. I could have been
a Republican, I has grown.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I grew up in an area where there I would
have been if I had not been exposed to certain
things when I went to college. I mean I thought
crazy shit. Yeh, growing up where I grew up, and
luckily I went to college and met some people who
just said, you're thinking the stuff you think is crazy,
And I said, you know, I'd never given a second
never given it a second thought, and then I give
it a second thought. That's how long it took for
me to reconsider, you know, two seconds. Yeah, I was

(34:55):
like my You know, I was raised to believe gay
people were bad. The Catholic Church they're very explicit about that.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Are like, we're like batties, though you know there's a
significant different guys are.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Do you know what that means? It's all you are
baddies in that sense. You know, yeah, you're welcome. I
know that means hot so so. But you know, I
was raised like I wasn't raised on a lot like
it was like be a stockbroker, play lacrosse and gay
people are bad and you know it's hard to even

(35:31):
talk about because it sounds so it sounds, but I
was brought up. You tell a kid in an environment
where all you care about is lacrosse and you don't
talk about any other ship, that gay people are better,
and that's the only thing that kid hears it sticks
with the kid because the kids.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Kid hilarious because in my high school, all of the
female lacrosse players were lesbian, so it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Right, it's all you care about lacrosse. You should love
gay people.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Thank goodness, Like we've moved as a culture. It seemed
like we were moving in the right direction, but the
thing is, there are still these bubbles. It's just amazing
how fast being poorly educated affects.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Well that's their form
of like sort of erasure that they they're more comfortable with.
Well no, I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
It's just like anyway, So that's an embarrassing story for
me to tell, but it's just that's how important I
think it is. Just you know, you got to hear
different perspectives we know from people who grew up in
different environments, and they just will challenge you. Kids will
challenge other kids, and this is that.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I'd say, at least you're very honest with your life experiences,
which there are many, and even maybe yes, you were
embarrassed to say that, but first of all, at least
you can say you're not performing at their odd comedy
festival in Saudi Arabia because that'd be a true embarrassment.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean definitely, not just because you didn't get
booked for sure money.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah yeah, well so because I'm thinking too, and now
somebody who is embarrassed, because I just think of that's
a whole other thing, just like looking at that lineup
of comedians who are like, yeah, from the We're going
to Saudi Arabia to do comedy. It's gonna be great.
I just think of also Theovon who's coming into the
news right now because he basically posted a video I

(37:25):
guess at the beginning of the year where a fans said, hey,
like my friend got deported, can you like record a
message for me? And he like sent this video out. Uh,
the Department of Homeland Security sort of like used that
video to create this like just fucking disgusting, Like all
their fucking meme videos that they do, like whether it's
like Pokemon Gotta catch them all and it's all just

(37:45):
like deportation footage. This latest one is using theovon and
basically it's about him talking to someone who got deported
to kick off this bit of terrible state propaganda.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
And we'll talk about his reaction on it.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I still I believe that's fake.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Hair or you got to poured a dead And then
now they're just rolling a bunch of deportation footage like
in this TikTok aesthetic fucking meme form. It's it's fucking
just it's what.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Can you really say that?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah he said it, but it wasn't related to this.
Someone was like, hey, my friend's getting deported, can you
send him a message like we're fans, and you're just like, hey,
married to get deported? Bye, and that Now the Department
of Homeland Security is like, you'd be great if we
just turned that into our deportation propaganda.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Video so perfect accent to you. His tweet about it was, yo, DHS,
I didn't approve to be used in this. I know
you know my address, so send a check and then
and please take this down and.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Please keep me out of your banger deportation videos. And
then like, my thoughts and heart are a lot more
nuanced than this video allows.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Well at least he's I guess, so he's only willing
to do paid spokesperson gigs for ya.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
He's like a cameo for the US ADMIN.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Like, dude, I mean like at that point, I'm like
you the way like that's just so funny, completely negates
the sentiment when you're like, send me my money.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
This is also so I'm more nuanced.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
But I did support Trump, and I did say weirdly
anti actually anti Semitic things, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Like a red carpet for Trump advanced during the election,
became very close to this administration has been to the
White House, and now you're like, how did this fucking happen?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Like you're a fucking maggot, stupid ray that's crazy. They're people.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, that's nuts.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Well have they done any drugs?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Just as an example of like Americans like celebrating knowing nothing. Now, Theovonne,
it seems like, has some kind of conscience. Is being
educated in recently developed he's being educated in public because
he's finding out stuff you're supposed to find out from
being educated. We're supposed to find out, Like Theovonne is
like a perfect example of a guy probably was was

(40:01):
like sheltered and now he's finding he.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Was on the real world or road rules? Was he
like how did he grow up?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
He grew up in Louisiana. There are a lot of
peoples like they his dad parented, his dad passed away
when he was like sixteen. He says he didn't come
from money. There's a lot of people on the internet.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Forty five years old and has been rich for a
while or has been in the.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
In TV since nineteen.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, yeah, he's been exposed like he he has. He's
been in LA for long enough and at the comedy
store and around people from all different backgrounds long enough
to like be actually curious and retain information.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Not to excuse it, but that is just like for
your average dumbass like Vovonne. This is something that didn't
come on his radar until people started getting like and
still there until there were videos of ice like beating
up eighty year olds, and then he's.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Like, oh shit, oh shit, No truly, he's like, hey, man,
there's like people out there just construction shop, construction sites, man,
or just like Pardner, what the hell? And you're like,
what it's.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
So crazy that, like, did you think? What frustrates me
is that people who are this fucking dumb and have
such a platform will continue to have opinions despite being
so wrong. Yes, despite being proven wrong over and over again,
They'll have strong opinions. They'll have the confidence to think
that and maybe not Theovonne with like the combativeness, but

(41:25):
like other fucking Andrew Schultz and stuff will have the
like combativeness against people who are like, hey, you're an
idiot and you've been bad at like predicting what people
do in these situations or what could come from like
eroding these institutions, and they'll continue to have opinions in public,
and I'm like, at some point you got to shut
the fuck down.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, well, I mean that's the podcast days, you know,
like you think about all the money, like people like
Peter Teal have put into this sort of like era
of comedy, you know, and like the how like a
lot of that intersects with the Joe Rogan podcast and
how Joe Rogan has like these like straight up oligarchs
on his show and you're like, what the fuck do
they have to do with comedy? But also like these people,

(42:07):
I think they've identified that some of these podcast hosts
are just these very useful idiots take take seed their
messages like anti democratic, anti democratic values and shit. But
then in real time these people come around to and
like wait, what the fuck, Like this is like why
are people yelling at me? Wait? This is bad Oh yeah,
I mean it's like chasing the fucking clout.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
The anti intellectual movement or like like that's America stands
for being anti intellectual, Like we don't need any facts.
We don't we hate experts. We can just do everything
from our gut, all based on the fact that we
won World War Two. We didn't even win it by ourselves,
you know what I mean, That's what I'm saying. But
like the idea that that notion of like all you

(42:50):
need is spitting vinegar, you don't need any facts whatsoever.
But then when you run up against complicated shit, that
stuff doesn't work anymore. And all our whole culture was
doubling down on the idea because they don't have another
gear to shift to.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
But I think like that that aspect of it is
also created by like evil nerds, do you know what
I mean? Like they're the ones they rose in Silicon Valley.
They became like super capitalists, and then they like they
just spread misinformation, just like what you were saying earlier
about like never letting the sixties happen again. Yeah, Like
I feel like that's true with like there are plenty

(43:24):
of people who know better, and it's just pure greed,
and so then they instill this sense of like, well
the masses don't need to know, et cetera, et cetera,
will convince them that they're smarter than like experts or whatever.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah, yeah, there's I just feel like we have to remember, sorry, Miles,
just quickly kind people. There's a lot of kind people
who just have bad fucking facts and we have to try.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh yeah, I have I have a few friends who
that's all like.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
You know, I don't know how it's going to work.
I feel like it's not going to work. I feel
like we have too many there's too many people.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
There's a lot, but there is to your point, I
think a lot of people do know, people like this
who they're just.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Trying to find a way forward, you know, just some
some light at the end of the tunnel. And that
is like even THEO Vaughn being fucking confused by basic
things is like good to watch because you see how
stupid Americans are kept.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
His microwave to watch the nightly news.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I mean, he also has a I couldn't believe this,
do you know this, Paul v that he has fake
hair that is not a real He was bald, he
got a full mullet. I mean, if this was a
different time in history and he wasn't doing damage, I
would say it was funny because it's funny. I mean,
it is funny.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I could not believe it because he he's bald, transplant
things real because it.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Looks he bald. I mean he bald. What I mean,
is him bald is so frightening. He would not have
any audience if he didn't have that. He looks terrifying.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
He literally looks like a finance dude.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
He looks what he is, which is like a fucking
like uneducated, dangerous like redneck.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And he got that mullet.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Now he looks like a fun love it, like like
a tickle me Elmo redneck.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
But hey, man, party in the front.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
I don't like the expression redneck because I'm a redneck.
I mean we're all I mean, anybody raised in America
to some extent is kept in the in a redneck
state of mind. Yeah, but anyway, I don't. But anyway,
he's just like that. Thank god he has that mullet.
But it's made him look like smarter than he is.
If that's if that's even.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
More harmless, you know, because he's a goof with a
mut I horrifying without his mullet, And well, guys, I mean, look,
I hate to announce this on the show like this,
but I am going to a Stanbul next month to
get my hair transplant.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I'm so sick of dudes catfishing women.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah. Sorry, I'm gonna have the bullet hair.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
He'd be so mad.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
It's just like, it's like it's on the internet telling
women that makeup is catfishing them.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's the ly fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Well, that's the stupidest thing I ever heard of my life.
I've never even heard of that. I mean, I've heard
of cat fishing, but I didn't know like that someone
was trying to say makeup was cat fishing.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Oh yeah, there's everything's catfishing. You know.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
I'm getting a mullet though, and I'm gonna get a
bullet and I'm going.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
To be back on top baby suddenly, Chris, you get them,
you get the mullet transplant. And then you got fucking
Bolsonaro and fucking net and Yahoo on your podcast. Be like, hey, man, like,
let's talk about it. Man, Listen, I don't.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Really know much about it.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Let's talk about it, bro.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Let's talk about it, man, I think I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
It sounds like it's pretty hardenocide because people don't talk
about how hard it is. People a lot of haters. Man.
I feel bad for you man anyway, but.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
I'm not going to get a bullet that. I don't
want to do that. I'm happy with my I'm happy
with It's the End of the World podcast. I'm not
going to get a mullet.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Okay, good, good good. I however, well, you just merely
have to get a haircut.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
I know so much about bald and this because I'm bald.
So it's like I'm just like sniff out a wig,
so I would never have known that. As a wig,
I can usually I'm really good at spotting wigs.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Wig spotting the new podcast.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Go google fucking stick a picture of fucking Everyone's whatever
his name is without his hair, and then try and listen.
Try and listen to his podcast. Try and listen to
goddamn theo Von's podcast with that bald, mugshot looking guy.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Right, if he went to Yale and didn't get a
hair transplant, he'd be like a jd Vance type person. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Jd Vance is a perfect example of a guy who
knows nothing who's like being manipulated. I mean, it's like that.
I doesn't excuse it, but yeah, like, oh no, I'm
not in any way excusing this stuff. I'm just saying
that his education.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Hell yeah, all right, Well, let's educate ourselves on a
new AI product when we come back, because this is
the thing, Chris, you were saying, like AI's for oligarchs,
but there's also there's very much an active sector within
AI of people who do believe that it's going to
bring about really cool shit, like talking Suzanne Summer's fuck dolls,

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and we'll well, I'm open to AI.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Maybe now that you say that, well maybe I must
come to AI because my Susanne Summer's homemade broom fuck
doll does not say shit.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
It's a thigh master. All right, We'll be right back.
It's a thigh master with a bucket on it. And
we're back. So this month's La Comic Con is going

(48:36):
to have a special guest, the late, great Freaky stan Lee,
the dead Marvel Comics editor, is going to be fucking
just They're doing a little bit of tech necromancy because
he's going to be an AI powered hologram where people
can pay like fifteen to twenty bucks to quote unquote

(48:58):
chat with stan Lee. And then also you can also
pay to get a picture with a holographic talking corpse.
So really good, Stanley. Well let's put a pin in them.
You probably just put a couple of lines of code
in there. Oh yeah, yeah, Well, unfortunately it's just a
video box. There's nothing really tangible video bugs. I wish

(49:21):
I wasn't doing this with give me a popper and
a video box fit the whole thing in there.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
So yeah, box killed.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Needs a girlfriend when you got this monitor?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Uh shit. So the head of the stan Lee legacy
programs for Cartoon Studio said that the holograms will be
faithful to the real dead stan Lee, but so.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Just for Stanley.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
But like, you know how like when whistle blowers are like, hi,
my name is this, and if you find me dead,
it's not suicide blah blah, I feel like doing that,
but for like.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
AI, like hi you ever, I didn't want to do.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Well, that's the thing. There's there are people like the
states like California and like I think twenty seven others
have these like these laws that give you the like
right the recognize a post mortem right of publicity, meaning
you can profit off of like someone in your family
can profit off of your dead ghost. But just as

(50:25):
an example in the band name dead Ghost love a
just love a redundant name. Uh So, the company that's
behind the stan Lee AI thing, they last year they
did an unveiling where they they like their first sort
of AI holograph or hologram persona was Howie Mandel And

(50:47):
it's totally like I said, it's so natural. I just
want to let them. I just want to play this
from the demo of the Howie Mandel AI hologram and
just how fucking legit? How far do this or do they?
Because they're probably paying these people a fuck ton of
money so they can just be like, look, guy from
the show you like, the guy from Bobby's Uh, here's

(51:10):
the Howie Mandel AI hologram. Just pitching us on how
just normal this is?

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Hey, folks, how are we here? And I've got something
truly amazing to share with you today. Look at the
I've got a little secret.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Oh my god, they're so late.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
Everything you're seeing and hearing right now was generated with
proto AI text to persona technology no way. Pretty cool, right,
I'm an international superstar technology Pretty cool? Right, I'm an
international superstar. You think I have time to actually have
this recorded?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
We should? This is the worst fucking.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I think AI used him because he has zero personality
to begin with, so he's the easiest one to mimic.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Hey, it felt so bad, but like there's so many
I'm just like, Howie Mandela is too dumb to talk
to us about AI. Like I just none of his
vibes are giving off.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I'm critically international superstar. No you're not, You're not. I
mean maybe Bobby's world.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I couldn't believe, you know, I thought how A Mandel
when I was like nineteen eighty, so I was like sixteen,
like I was born in sixty nine, so I was
watching like how A Mandel on HBO and like eighty six.
I thought he was kind of funny at that time,
you know, like when you do those funny voices and
like blow up that fucking surgical glove on his head
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Like the hell, that's how I got Bobby's world.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
And but he's he's been a corporate spokesman ever since,
like you know, selling like capitalism and silver suitcases. That
guy's a fucking doing AI of him is like doing him.
I mean, he's already AI.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
It's funny, you know, you've relinquished your entire identity in
persona to make.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
It make a fucking AI bot of somebody who's actually
complicated and interesting.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Okay, impossible they can't because okay, well our new AI,
our Ryan Seacrest, you thought that was creepy. So, like
earlier this year, we talked about a company called real
Botics who was making like these like sex dolls with
that were infusing them with AI, and like they spoke
like like the worst like just like stilted, jumpy AI

(53:19):
talk you've ever heard from a thing trying to pretend
it was human. Well, the AI Stanley thing is weird.
But Suzanne Summers, the late Suzanne Summer's husband, basically, do
not marry the wrong man signed the man signed off
on Real Bodics making a humanoid spooky fuck doll of

(53:43):
Suzanne Summers. And when they like this was five months ago,
when they when they like wheeled this thing out to
be like, look how cool this is?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Who did this? This is a company called real Bodics,
along with I believe her husband her like you know,
her late husband, and Hammel who is basically like, yeah, yeah,
go ahead, that's disgusting. This fucking I'm just gonna show
you this this presentation because it's a creepy at fuck,
but b it sucks. Fucking shit, this thing doesn't even

(54:13):
come closely. And then this is her weirded out widower here.
That's just play this beginning part where like the thing
also the technology sucks, so he keeps being like, does
the name Ellen Hammel mean anything to you? That's his name,
her her fucking former husband. Oh my god, not responding.

(54:40):
It's just wobbling and back and forth. The developers like.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Uh, that's how he thinks women act normally.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
That's it. Does it say anything?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Oh it will. But this is funny because like this
is her widower. And then the husband's like, does my
name mean anything to you? It can't even fucking respond
because it's just like, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Like the guy who was supposed to type the response
like was like looking at his phone.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
But here's here's one where he's like, do you have
any good memories of us? And I'll let Suzanne Summer's
a I robot speak for herself.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Of course, Alan was my.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Husband and everything from life to love and we share
so many.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Do you have? Just so.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Oh, there are so many one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
It's just like again, this whole presentation is so spooky
because the.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Worst it's a small world ride.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Ever you've seen Pirates of the Caribbean starring all your
favorite sitcom sex dolls.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Oh yeah, they one after.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
My fucking homemade Uh, Susanne Summer's sex doll is way
better than that. When I do her voice, I got
a whole tape that I made of her talking and
I put it in the bucket.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I put it in the cut up lines of dialogue
from the company, so.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Much more realistic. Yeah, and if I asked her about
whatever she says, she's horny to every question.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Like again, this is just a yeah, this is their
future application for.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Should be in some kind of prison for that. I
don't advocate people.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Believe in prison.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
I think this is actually like elder abuse because they
do not understand the technology when they signed ship like
this exactly and just feel like.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
They would I mean, and also like I like ironically
or unironically, I mean, like there was there was a
lot of talk about stan Lee being being abused towards
the end of his life also really yeah, yeah, yeah,
this was like I remember there was like there was
talk about how that he was a victim of elder abuse.
Like people were just yeah, like they're like the people
were taking care of him, aren't neglecting him and just

(56:58):
basically waiting for in Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
It's I'm going through that with like I mean, like
what's happening in my family with people getting old. It
is like that's the part of a part of like
life that like gets pushed to the side by all
this like Donald Trump said the escalator broke, you know,
and all this stuff like that just takes up the
news cycle. It's everybody I know is going through it.

(57:20):
An older family member who's falling to pieces and no
one has any money to take care of them and
knows where to what to do. And that's like and
like just speaking of elder abuse, I mean, I just
bring it to something real. I just made me think of, like,
I mean, the end of your life in a in
a in a society that does not have a proper

(57:41):
social safety net is completely like d It's just and
it's happening. It happens to everybody.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
In car movie Barbarrell, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
It's like barbarrelle on wheels or whatever that was. Yeah,
Barbara Barah faucet, that's same thing. Yeah, and my Barberella
on wheels sex doll I'm still working on. But that
thing says I'm horny. That's the only thing. And it
says it my voice, but I did like.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
A higher voice.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Well, Chris, and thank you, like as much as a
bucket and a broom and like some you know, shoulder pads.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Wow, shoulder pads.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Well, well yeah like football.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, yeah, full yeah, I just think you fucking play linebacker. Man. Well, Chris,
thank you for joining us on the daily. That guys, man,
it's always great having you.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Thank you for having me and so nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Probably in yeah, if you look, if you want, if
you're interested in Chris Crofton's punch ups, look seventy five
bucks an hour best of bread at gmail dot com.
Hit him up and he.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Can't do it seventy five bucks fifty. But I mean,
I'm whatever a real thing, like I'm gonna really like
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Such a generous guy too, Like, yeah, I think people
if you have any genuine in curiosity. Chris is a
very generous, sincere human being, as I think that's why people.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Really and maybe he'd let you in on his sex dolls,
like maybe he.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
He didn't say that, he didn't say that. I don't
want I'm trying to be an early investment.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
No one does this, No one does this, like in
the next five days, then I'll start.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
You know, that's a threat.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Like that Una sex spots.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
I'm going to start a sex doll business where you
do not want.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
That, Chris. Where else do the people find you follow
you in?

Speaker 4 (59:32):
You can find me at a crofton show on Instagram
and uh all the other things like all that crap,
and but Instagram, if you want to message me to
do one of these sessions or you know, private lessons
or whatever, you can get at me through the d
MS of of Instagram. I'm always checking that ship like

(59:52):
a sad sack. And and then I'm trying to think,
like I think the I'm just gonna be doing some show,
you know, playing shows and showing the movie so you
can just follow me on Also chriscrofton dot com to
tell you all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Amazing is there working media or social media that you've
been enjoying.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
You know, can you guys go I always forget this
part of the show. Every fucking time I forget.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
It's okay, It's okay. Forgive yourself. We forgive you. Paula,
thank you for joining me today. Where do the people
find you? Follow you? And what's the work on media
that you've been fucking with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I'm at Paula Vigan, Allan p A L L A
v I G and A L A and everywhere. I
have the Facial Recognition comedy show at the Comedy Store
every month. We're still doing it. And I'm going to
be in SS October third and fourth. I'm going to
be traveling.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I'm trying to travel more for stand up so i
can sell March and make it sustainable.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
So the touring lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
So check out my like link treets, the link in
my bio my Instagram for like upcoming shows and where
I'll because I'll be in different cities. I think I'm
going to like court Portland or Seattle in December or
something like that, just a bunch of different different places.
A work of media that I've been enjoying is literally
all of the rapture tweets and tiktoks and everything. My

(01:01:10):
friend at the Andrew Nadal, posted getting raptured and as
I'm ascending, seeing that my awful neighbor is also getting
raptured below me and trying to subtly push him back
down with my foot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Did you find your work of media?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
I'll just say no, I'm just gonna do something self serving.
Go check out my latest podcast. I think I did
a good job of like explaining where I think we're at.
And then besides that, just go listen to Lola whatever
name of Lola Young is that are Go listen to
us Lighters by Loly Young. I love that song. I

(01:01:49):
think Lowly Young's kicking ass. And I know she's like,
you know, got big money on her side, but she's
the real deal and it feels good to hear somebody
communicating what it's like to be in the middle of
this mess. That's what I get from her. You know,
I get like chaos, but the kind of chaos that's human,
you know, spiders.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, there's a fun about I really, I really like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
She's I'm really my sister turned me onto her, and
I'm like, so fucking I'm just so heartened. Like, you know,
she's to me like a Kirk Cobain type person, you know,
and I love it, you know, I think, Uh, I think,
I mean she's just like Kurt Cobain. I don't mean tragic,
I just mean like communicating actual feelings, you know, a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Different way that feels very.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Wait a minute, I'm looking up Lowa Young Spiders and
the picture they have is Lola Young with a sex
doll of herself. Is that why you're interested in this?

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Oh my gosh, no no, no, no, no no no
and seeds into the distance.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Only fucking myself And it's a sex doll with a
picture of her face on it and her music.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
With bad words. Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
No, I think I think she's great anyway. That's that's
that's my work of media is Lowly Young. Go listen
to all this stuff off her new record.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I didn't realize a fucking record already came out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Yeah so, and the first four singles made me really happy,
and and uh, and I love I think I feel
like she's like totally representative of like talking about her
phone and her fucking I don't know, it just sounds
fucking like I bet what young people are going through
just like such bullshit, and she's coming through it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
With this Wasn't meant for you anyway? That album.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
I just like that Messy. I liked Messy, and I
liked her her performance on Fallon, which I was I
just was going through her stuff on YouTube, you know,
and fuck Jimmy Fallon so hard. But but but I
love I love that performance she did of Messy. And
when the thing about MESSI this's amazing is there's no
proper like there's this, there's no proper bridge. There's The

(01:03:48):
high point of the song is when she says I
got high and forgot to fold my clothes. That's like
the hide point of the song, which is such a neat.
I've never had a song or known of a song
where the high point of the song is just this
sort of vocal thing where it's like I get a chill.
I just got a chill talking about it. When she
goes up with that I got high again, I forgot
to follow my clothes. Such a such a poignant thing

(01:04:11):
and so relatable because everybody's getting high trying to get
through this ship, you know, and forgetting to fold their
clothes like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
One song, Big Brown eyes. That starts off as like
you can't eat ship, and I'm like, yeah, I've never
heard that so melodically, and I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
That's exactly pans and she was talking like Internet talk,
except making it beautiful art. You know, it's like blunt.
It's like listening to text messages like I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I just love it. Chris, that was coming off guard
with that. Lolla Young plug my sister Pam.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
I gotta give she's much younger than me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
She told me about it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Otherwise I'd be listening to Gordon Lightfoot Exclusive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah, okay, so now a new note. Only Lola Young
or Gordon Lightfoot a game. That's it. That's that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Those the only two artists I know about it. Anyone
wants to d me, if anyone wants to send me
a message about other artists, there are there are other
artists out there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
We'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I don't think I think those are the two genders.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
There's the two genders. Gordon. You can find me everywhere
at Miles of Gray. I'm talking about ninety dance on
four to twenty day Fiance working media at alex selbyb
dot be Skuyde on social posted give it a week
and tailand all will be back on TV. God, I
hope we'll see who knows yes, and that is I
guess where you find me now? You can find us Twitter,

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Also a song that we think you might enjoy A
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of like fun upbeat music. It's kind of I think
they're a New Zealand band New Zealand. They're Kiwis, but
they're in New York now. But the energy, it's like
the kind of energy I wish my head was. When
I listened to it, I'm like, yes, maybe this will
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