All Episodes

November 19, 2025 66 mins

In episode 1966, Jack and Miles are joined by journalist and author of Becoming Baba: Fatherhood, Faith, and Finding Meaning in AmericaAymann Ismail, to discuss… Trump Kicks Off Affordability Tour? White House Posts Then Deletes MAGA Grimace, Can’t Get Past Inflation, Corruption And The Epstein Files? HOW ABOUT A BRIBE? LAPD Continues to Protect Us (From Accurate Statistics About How Bad They Are At Their Job), Bill Maher’s Racist Bullshit Just Domino Effected Nicki Minaj To The United Nations and more!

  1. Exclusive: Trump to talk affordability at McDonald's summit
  2. White House pivots to affordability as President Trump confronts voter discontent
  3. POTUS: "Everybody loves something at McDonald's. I like the fish. I like it. You could do a little bit more tartar sauce though please, seriously."
  4. Trump ‘Knew He’d Win’ 2024 Election After McDonald’s Campaign Stunt As He Addresses Affordability
  5. Trump, 79, Makes Weird Noise as He Whines About McDonald’s
  6. White House McDonald's Arches Post
  7. LAPD Continues to Protect Us (From Accurate Statistics About How They Are At Their Job)
  8. COMPSTAT Plus
  9. Bill Maher’s Racist Bullshit Just Domino Effected Nicki Minaj To The United Nations
  10. Nicki Minaj to spotlight plight of Nigerian Christians in UN speech arranged by White House
  11. Nicki Minaj Slammed After Thanking Trump for Nigeria Threats
  12. Trump tells military to prepare for 'action' against Islamist militants in Nigeria
  13. Are Christians being persecuted in Nigeria as Trump claims?
  14. Is there a Christian genocide in Nigeria? Evidence shows all faiths are under attack by terrorists
  15. Ted Cruz blames Nigeria for ‘mass murder’ of Christians: What’s the truth?
  16. No, Bill Maher, there is no ‘Christian genocide’ in Nigeria
  17. A US senator claims ‘Christian mass murder’ is occurring in Nigeria. The data disagrees

LISTEN: $AD BOYZ II by Junior H

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
How's the weather over there in New Jersey, brick, Yeah,
it's like it's cold, man.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I was two days. I have one of these like
newly renovated homes, and they just do not give a
shit about craft these days, and so they don't even
insulate anything when they're done. You know what the guy said,
Actually he said you could put a carpet down. I
was like, bro, here are.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Some things we've seen work, just like start a fire
in the middle of your living Oh, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's dangerous.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I like to warm my hands over the toaster as
I'm making my bagel in the morning. You know, you
just put your hands in the bread.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
You have to have very steady. But I do have
a blanket though. Let me go faster it. Wow, you're
getting you're getting really you got to get the blanket going. Okay,
there we go. Don't say anything racist, No, put the
the towers. It's so hard. God, which way do I
go with this? I have a thousand photos of my

(01:10):
dad doing exactly this, just like just getting bundled pretending
to be a ship. Oh really, Lawrence of Arabia style. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good look. There's like a really amazing school
for religious scholars in Egypt. It's called Azad University, and
my dad took like a class there for a day

(01:30):
and ever since then he's like, yeah, I've been to Asha.
Oh yep, yeah, he'll do this. He'll just do this,
throw it over his head, funny. Yeah, he's a funny guy.
Oh he's hilarious. I didn't really so. I thought he
was always just kind of mean and like, you know,
like a lot of dads just keeps kids at arms distance. Yeah.
I didn't realize until after I wrote my memoir and

(01:51):
I was like asking him questions that he was actually
a comedian, comedic genius. He's actually really really really funny.
He was chilling, stand up. Oh my god. He told
me this one story. So I sat down and I
was interviewing him for the book, and I was asking
him how he why doesn't have any hair beneath his
neckline at all? So look straight from here down nothing nothing,
no arm hair, no leg hair, all the way down.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Probably not a question you want to ask your dad.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'll answer it. I mean, like he's been dipped. Leave
that curiosity aside. Really, that's what he was gonna say,
That's that's what he said. He said, you know, I
come from a part of Egypt where we celebrate the
first born son by dipping them in milk when they're born.
And I was like, wow, it's really fascinating. I'm taking
notes and writing it down. I wrote it into the chapter,
and then when I was reading it out loud to

(02:36):
my brother for a fact check, he was like, that
doesn't sound right, sought my dad. He was at all.
It was like, I've never heard that before. The milk
was this and my dad starts cracking up and he
was like, you believe that. He's like milk you think
we just have milk like that where we could just
like dip babies.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
In there and then we'll throw it out. I was like, good, okay, yeah,
He's like, you didn't know that. My interview style was
two truths and a lie. Every every paragraph I did
a lie in there. Oh, you're the fun with my
bad bro. You know you know I'm not your dad, right,
it's gone too long. He's gone too But he gave

(03:14):
me so many stories like that.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know. He told me another story about how when
he got married he was having a taxi cab in
the city in the seventies, that's when he got married.
He told his wife, my mom, that he would take
her to a nice Italian dinner, and so they got
in the cab. They drove up to Joe's Pizza on
Fifth Ave and it's literally just a big pizza oven
in the window. And I don't know if it's real
or not, because I don't I don't know if he's

(03:37):
just made fun of me or not. Likes to believe that.
I'll believe anything. What's this one?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four, fifteen, episode
three of dird Eley's Guys. It was a production of
iHeart Radio. It's a podcast where we take a deep
dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, November nineteenth, twenty five.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
There's a couple of things here that it's like play
monopoly or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
This is the one, Jack.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
This one's for you, my guy, because it's National Carbonated
Beverage with Caffeine Day.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah you know. Yeah? Have you heard people?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Have you heard that referred to as a fridge cigarette?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh? Yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I was justs are fridge thicks.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was just around a bunch of diet coke brained
people in New York and they were like, I died
fridge sick. And I was like the and they're like,
oh yeah, give me one too. And then I was
like a kid.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's the new six seven among middle aged people in New.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
York if you're a white business professional. Yeah, yeah, put
that fridge sick. So yeah, rip a fridge dart.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Eh, I'm gonna rip a fridge dart this afternoon in
honor of my national Day and Mountain Dewis fridge meth it.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Fridge grant depends, man, you know, because some people cigarettes
come in all kinds of intensities, so I feel like, well,
can't you know the soda doesn't.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's a fridge filterless camel red exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's a Marlborough Do you think.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Marlborough Marlborough light would be a diet coke? I think
I think that's what the type.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Of person I mean it strikes me as a parliament
a parliament is, I think, well, I think those are
all in the same range of cigarette. It's like the
cigarette for people who are like, oh, I don't smoke,
but them bump cigarettes right right.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, because parliaments to me were like the cigaret the
first cigarette all the white girls in my high school smoked.
And then when they're like, oh, you could do drugs
out the recessed filter, I was like, yeah, this is
this is this is for me. Yeah yeah, No, would
a black and mild be like a Doctor Pepper black
and mile see that's mhmm.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it's one that's only a mixer, you know, like
whichever soda is like bet does a mixer because it
isn't black and mild like you use.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I mean you can't. I mean I usually you want
to use around cigarettes. Maybe that's just a coke heavy
you know.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
But people do take out the inner paper inside the
black and miles, so it hits a little bit less harsh.
So it is in a way, it's like you wouldn't
just hit it straight out the fucking pack like that
unless you've got some lungs.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Anyway, Anyways, we've done our due over this cigarette industry.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Anyways, they.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Which one takes you to flavor the most? Talking about
our favorite drag linked.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Cigarette, which which cigarette would able to make.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Do you remember your first drag off a cigarette? I
was like, this smells so good and tastes like dirt
air like.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, the first cigarette I smoked was one of my
was was a butt. You know that my family members
left around. I never the first time I sparked of
out the packed new fresh cigarette.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I was probably fifteen in.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Japan, and I was surprised how smooth that first drag was.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I was like I thought was. I was like, yo,
I might be able.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
To yeah, exactly, you're used to it was used to butt,
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Just stand there like half the filter I'm smoking. They're like, sir,
that's not tobacco.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
My name is jacko bro Yes today Potatoes O'Brien, and
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
host mister Miles.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Grass Miles Gray aka come on, look at who led capitulation?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Turcoat Damns betrayed the nation now a ciego raised premiums.
Blame those octogenarium BOMs. Okay, shout out to less than
zero on the discord. That's oh, no, Pharaoh manch most deaf,
nate dogg one for the trouble, two for the base,
three foot incredible vegetable paper chase, I think is what

(07:51):
most Death said aka yah seen bay for people who
really follow his career anyway, thanks for that one.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Lesson zero, thanks to let me, let me go Aim
all right, you're about You're about before, don't come on.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
We're thrilled to be joined by an award winning Slate
magazine and staff writer, one of our favorite guests. You
might have seen his work on a couple of places
like CNN, The New York Times, n p R g
Q of the Columbia Journalism Review, which is just a
couple of local periodicals, such as that it's actually.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Prepared this time. I'm going to be a a k a.
The Hot Take, a k a. The Bubba on the
Beat a a k A. Fish No relation.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Bubba on the Beat does get to the theory that
Miles and not I have positive from the start that
everyone's imagining Bill Clinton. There is the horse theory.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
What about Sparks? What about Bubba Sparks?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know that would be just so because anyone asked,
is anyone Bubble?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I feel like this is a time.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I feel like this is a time for every person
named Bubba to be like, just so you know, bro,
got nothing to do with me. It's not Bubba Wallace,
it's not Bubba Sparks. It's not Bubba Smith from Police Academy,
even though he passed away man years ago.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
The timing probably doesn't work out for it to be
Bubba Gump, Bubba from Forrest Gump. Yeah, because I think
he passed away and he you know, they would have
met in the Wars Trump hadn't dodged the draft.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh you mean you mean the actual Bubble actor Michael Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, I'm just saying I don't know. I don't know
Sark Bubba Wallace Michael T. Williams is sixty eight years
old now, the guy who played Bubba. That's so I mean,
I mean, I guess that.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I feel like a dismissive asshole like Mark Epstein would
probably refer to him as Bubba.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, you never know.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Let's let's leave no lee unturned here, because he is.
He is approaching this like a bridge troll in a riddle,
being like, I cannot tell you who it is.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I will tell you who it is not. Oh, okay,
like your dad when he's being interviewed.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
One of us can only tell the truth, one of
us can only tell lies.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
You have three questions. Hey, man, it's great, it's great
to have you back. How have you been. Oh man,
I'm feeling pretty good. Feeling pretty good, getting a lot
of writing done, getting a lot of pieces done. I
spent some time at the UVU campus where Charlie Kirk
made his last debate. Got to learn some things from
talking to those kids directly. Yeah, man, it's been good.

(10:41):
It's been good. How are you guys? Yeah? Wait, is
that a piecer working on right now? Or do that?
Is that something you wrote already? It published? Yeah? Oh
it did? I have to check that out. I was
just reading.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I was reading a lot of your coverage about Zoran's election,
like in the build up and aftermath, but I missed
that kirkpiece.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh dude, I'm I'm so excited about Zoron already, like
woking up in a whole new America? Does it?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, it definitely gave everybody the just a light
air of positivity. Although now we're like, okay, so how
are the billionaires They're they're all now scheming to be
like how do we make this not or do anything?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're like, yeah, you know what? It felt like. It
felt like that moment in Syria when Lasholotte, I said,
finally got deposed and then all the prisons are being released,
and everything was just opening up, and people were coming
back to Syria for the first time and forever. That's
what this feels like. If we finally saw democracy do
what it was supposed to do. It wasn't just like

(11:37):
some somebody cheating or some election fraud something. It just
felt like more than fifty it worked. His campaigning worked
right right, And I feel like we haven't seen that
in a while.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
No, no, not almost, Like I mean the local race.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I feel like it's it's usually at the like city,
state level where you're going to see that kind of
like big de democracy kind of stuff really go down.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Once you get to the federal level, it's just it's
just money games.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yes we can, he may. I mean, we're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
We're gonna talk.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
About what Donald Trump is up to with his affordability tour,
his McDonald's franchise e speech that had a weird speaking
of police academy had a weird like little Michael Winslow
moment where it was like, well, yeah, did he did
he just start. Should he turn into a walkie talkie there.
I have a theory on what he was going for.
I'm going to talk about that. We'll talk about his

(12:38):
plan for getting people distracted from the epsteam files, which
is a bribe. You know, Just which of all the
policies like this, you know, I'll take that, send some
money directly to people. Yeah, that's never been a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now will it solve everything? I don't know about that,
But go ahead, we're square.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Stop asking about the right just I don't want to
hear it ever again. Okay, you can take the car.
I don't want to hear about it anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, he's like that, only take it. If you're done
talking about Epsteine.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
We'll talk about that LAPD who are continuing to protect
us hell yeah, from magaard statistics, how they are at
their job work, most most obviously guilty Ship. I've seen
the LAPD do pretty well because they are on some
always on some like guilty Ship. But this is pretty bad.
And then we'll talk about so Nicki Minaj is addressing

(13:36):
the u N today and it all starts with Bill
Maher being full of ship, and we'll we'll talk about
how that train of misinformation happened around the subject of
Nigeria and you know, a right wing plot to fabricate
the idea that, oh you think you think Israel is
committing genocide. Actually it's Nigerians are doing Christian Christians. So

(14:02):
all of that plenty more.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's sad, man, it is.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I mean, look, Bill Maher, this amazing what you can
do in your an islamophobe with an HBO show.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
You can act the business of the at the U
n right, all that plenty more.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
But first, aman, we do like to ask our guests,
what is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, this morning it was like big News and my
circle of friends that the Legends of Held movie that
we're finally getting to our first looks. Oh really, I'm
a big zelder NERD. I played all those games to death.
It's the only game I could really play. I'm a
big dungeon freak. And yeah, me and my circle of
friends we love that ship. And so yeah, there's like

(14:43):
the first freak.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
It sounds so much nastier than what it is.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, my whole vocabulary when I say D and D,
people are really going to be looking for my name
in the files.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Okay, so first looks, I'm looking at something that looks
like the Peter Jackson Lord.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, it's pretty much it. Yeah yeah, well feel pretty exciting.
So ship that is like the Hollywood's promise to New
Zealand that we will boost your tourism industry once once
every decade. It feels like what we're seeing here.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
It's it's live action. You know, that's that'll be interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
They said, oh wow, they're describing it west. The director
said they're aiming for something quote akin to a live
action Miyazaki, which.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm okay, there's a lot of opportunities. No, but you know,
we the vibrations we're going to copy. I think I
used to hate like video game adaptations, and then I
saw that movie Uncharted with Tom Holland and I was actually,
just this feels like a meal. Like this feels like
a whole meal. I really enjoyed that one. Are you

(15:54):
want to like Super Mario and stuff? I was like, well, yeah,
I mean I get like the An made it version.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
They're just trying to keep it like to very video
gaming kind of stuff because it wasn't the John Liguizamo
Bob Hoskins live action Mario Brothers we got in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But are so good? Are the fans? How are they?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Because obviously, I mean I feel like Nintendo fans are
less toxic than like console or PC gaming fans are.
Is the Are there are people enthusiastic about this casting?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah? Pretty okay. I think everybody. They didn't want it
to be like some big name celebrity where they were
going to just try to force it like they did.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh yeah, because they continuously do. How are they going
to get Chris Pratt to do the voice though? Is
he just overdubbing them like in vo afterwards? All Right,
I'm gonna give you those directors me and then i'm
gonna give you the directors filmography, and you're gonna do
a bit of a Brittany Brosky face miles where it's like,

(16:52):
all right, yes, the kombucha face. So he is best
known for directing the Maze Runner film trilogy, but then
he made the Fourth Kingdom of the Planet fifth or
Fourth Planet of the Apes reboot Kingdom of the Planet
of the Apes, which I've heard is like interesting at
least and sorry, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Don't look, bro, I don't do whatever the fuck you're
gonna do. You never know, because I know the directing
movies is you might make a whole bunch of shitty
ones and then suddenly make a good one. So off
of this and Aiman's excitement, I'm gonna go ahead and
I'm gonna say really positive about this.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I do really like po I do like the No
Name performers. So it's a perfect pairing, man, if you
think about it. Because all the monsters in Zelda are
like non humanoid, They're they're like pig ape right thing creatures,
and so it actually kind of makes sense that actually
makes me more excited they hat to be.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm just waiting for when they're gonna because i know
right now they say this woman Bo Braggison is playing Zelda.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
But I know, but they're gonna put Sidney Sweeney in
that world eventually. Oh god. Yeah. And you know what,
you know what else it is, I haven't been excited
about anything, uh like, in movies for so long, and
so I'm just really allowing myself kind of forcing myself
to be really excited about this one.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I love that may not be a disappointment made really
hyped over a movie.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was pretty psyched about one battle after another.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I was really psyched over weapons, and I never saw
it still weapons.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Weapons, I know. I was just like I remember seeing
the trailer.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm like, yo, this ship fucking goes and then cut
to like, you know, life lifing. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Also, it seems like it's aimed at theaters, right, Like
there's gonna be a theatrical release. They're not just going
to be like now on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
No, no, no, okay, that's good, that's good. No, no, no,
I think I heard.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was really excited about the uh Miss Piggy movie.
I heard that it's going to be a streaming thing,
which is crazy, like you need to put that on
on out in theater.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's fine because I just showed my them up. It's
Christmas Carol. He's fucking love fun. He normally doesn't like
seeing like live action ship. He likes animated shit.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
He was feeling, oh nice, Yeah, is this gonna be
like a live action Miss Piggy, live action Miss Piggy? Yeah,
I haven't even heard about this. Ammas Stone and Jennifer
Lawrence and Miss Piggy.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
This might be relevant to one of our upcoming Icon episodes,
so stay tuned for those Amma Stones. I get yeah,
all right? And man, what is what's something you think
is underrated?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Mm? Underrated? I'm going to say, Tom Gotchi's They're back.
They're back. Yeah, I just bought one. I'm going to
give them to my wife. I'm really excited. Do you
remember do you know what to do? You know what
I'm talking about?

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, the little uh how about partridges with a little
screen on it and you give it food and you
clean up its poot and you see them get bigger
and they laugh and they cry and they're just so
happy and you can't neglect them to the point that
they could die. Yeah, they could die.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, and they die? Do they die forever? That that's
a question that my seven year old asked me about
people recently.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't remember that. That'd be that'd be crazy if
you have to, like I think, like the throat away,
if it dies, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I feel like the original Japanese version probably would have
been like, yeah, bro, it's gone. And then if our
American consumers are like you got maybe just take the
battery out and put it back in.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oh they respawn, thank you can respawn.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Jesus, Well that's a little scary. Actually yeah, yeah, all right,
yeah this this totally missed me.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well yeah, because you were what your four year Yeah,
you would have been like driving, like a driving high schooler.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
By the time this, Yeah, really hit fever pitch for me, Like,
how old are you? In my fifties? Yeah, dude, that
looks good on you. You still have all your hair.
I'm forty years older than months.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
He's thirty two, bro, No, no, no, forty four. Yeah,
you'll be forty five. Shit, I'm forty one.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Ah, God damn the old as fuck. So you are
you seeing that, like is it coming back in the
sense so you can get one on eBay? Or you're
seeing this as a trend.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
They have like a whole new line of them, and
you know, but yeah, so I think it's just kind
of like a fun little toy that you could just
keep in your pocket and then every once in a
while it rings and you can pull it out and
you can play with it, and it's something that's not
your phone. I think that's like the bigger draw exactly.
That's not an app something that's not you know, because
I feel like so much of my life and my

(21:25):
wife's life and everything is just going from like big
screen to little screen in the back to the big screen,
the back to the little screen. Yeah, and life has gotten
so repetitive with having kids. I mean, dude, I love
having kids. I like being a dad, but we end
up doing the same things over and over again, and
the days are really running away from us. So I
wanted to do something different for this year's holidays and

(21:46):
year holidays, which it's funny because we're mostlim we don't
even do that stuff. But I still wanted to get
her a gift so that she wouldn't feel left out.
And there I was looking around, and I just like,
I wanted to get her like a gadget, something that
was small, But she's not really the gadget. She doesn't
want like a watch or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, she kind of likes things that are like not
a dummy, like a dumb phone, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
So I was like looking at that, and I was like, yo,
she really used to like that stuff back in the days.
I remember I used to like that stuff too. Let
me just get home one nice I.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Can't wait next time you're on, we need to get
the report, because my my gut would be the having
kids and then having a thing that replicates having kids.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Would like I didn't even know one.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
To feed one of them, and I can't remember which
one it is.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
This one's got clients coming off of it. It's funny
though too that like I mean, you bring it up
because like when this ship was popping is because we
didn't have cell phones as kids.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's like, yo, bro, got this little tomagachi.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I'm fucking around on dir any thing no tamagatchis and
you just think of all the things we used to
just like the phone has yourplace, Like I'm seeing like
a fucking yo yo, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Or it's like, bro, you have nothing to do. Get
that yo at yoyoa. Oh big kids. We were rocking beepers.
I didn't have enough people calling me.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Did you put in your hat too? Did you clip
the beeper.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
To your hat? I never did the beeper.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I think I got a like type of candy that
came in a beeper shaped box For those of us
who didn't have bustling enough social lives.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
The beeper I was in the streets.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Like pretend, what if you pretended that you had shit
going on?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
There's jack, there's bubble dumb spilling out of your beeper.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh oh yeah, she's calling again. Oh you're right, yeah,
I better take this. My duke is tripping, you know
how it is.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I pretend my mom is calling dude.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's the best I can imagine. I have really over
protective parents. Did you guys have beepers when everybody else
had a cell phone?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I had a beeper in ninety five, so people mostly
people still had beepers, and it was.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Like the beeper arrow when I had a beeper sick.
I had a beeper because I couldn't afford the phone,
and so I would just get a beeper then borrow
someone's phone to call them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I had the beeper for a long time though, because
I also didn't like the phones are so big. I
still was just so into the idea because like rappers
would put like nine beepers on their waistband. Yeah, I
was just kind of like I had two. Like at
one point I had two beepers. One was a broken one,
but I just had to to just stunt on people
at the mall.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's like, if you got a lot going on and
you want to look like Batman, you need like a
utility belt. All beepers.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, so many deepers deeper Batman.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Doctors still kind of using right, or they're all using
Apple watches and ship like the app.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, they got phonesfe works in the hospital and she
has a beeper.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I feel like I feel like she gets pages, right.
I feel like that's the last place where they're still
used like in a regular way, right.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
So it's I mean, yeah, so I think my wife
has like a work phone that is only like for
work calls that she knows that she's getting a call.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
On that it's it's within the hospital. Yeah, yeah, it's important.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, but yeah, I get I guess beepers do make
sense like for that. So because dude, I was, I
was showing miles yesterday. I got nine spam calls yesterday,
like during the course of our recording phone calls. Yeah,
hour and a half nine spam phone calls. It's they
have made it completely fucking useless. Like if I was

(25:18):
a doctor, I'd be fucked or I'd be like getting
scammed so much.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Hold on, sir, I gotta I gotta leave this surgery.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I'm getting another callam doctor, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You gotta like sanitize your hands all over again.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Got to be sure it's the same area code as
my hometown.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Makes me think maybe it's someone I know trying to
call me from a new phone.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I got like the AD and T spam detection thing,
and like it's just taken off since then, and now
it never says scam likely.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I'm like, oh boy, the fucking DNT.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Anyways. Uh, what something aman that you think is overrated?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Uh? Laptops? Uh huh. I feel like we're finally at
the point now where you could just do everything on
your phone. And so when I see somebody like pull
out a laptop on a train, because you know, like
I'm in the city and everything, somebody's like it's like
a busy train and somebody like has to do their
work and they got to like do It's like, dude,
it could wait right later.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, trying to make a big production of the fact
that you have work.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, you take them space. Can you write an entire
article on your phone? Have you done that? I've done
that before. Damn, it's not great.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
You're a great gun typer. Yeah, because I need I
need a keyboard, like to really crank shit out.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I need. But you could also hook up like a
keyboard to a phone now that you can get like
a dunk. That is the wildest look though.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
You You imagine you're taking the train and somebody just
takes their phone out and then a fucking keyboard and
they're like, right, let me just type this ship up
on my cellphone, and.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's so much easier to carry than a whole laptop,
and just it's something about it just makes me just
drives me nuts. Because then because I see it all
the time, I see people pulling that laptops and doing
work somewhere where they're not supposed to. And I'm like, dude,
look around, you're stressing us. Read the room. Yeah, read
the room. I'm trying to have a sandwich, and you're
trying to use this cafe as your office.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah yeah, dude, Like your slack sounds are fucking upsetting
me that I can hear ambiently in this office.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah yeah. And it's like they sometimes give you a
dirty look if you're dragging a chair across because I'm
interrupting their work. This happened the other day. My son
was pushing a chair in a cafe and somebody gave
him a look because he was interrupting his flow. So
you're in a public place.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Photograb three chairs, my bad man, I'm expecting some people
man using this chair in front of you.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Actually, it wouldn't bother me so much if, like I
didn't see it all the time. You know. Yeah, it
just feels like you can't leave the house without somebody
making whatever space their office. You know. I take my
case of the library a lot again, just people just
post it up, making it their their workspace. And I'm like, you, guy,
it's not that important love that even.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Though it's a peaceful place to do your work.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
We'll do that shit somewhere else, or just you know,
be better at time management. If your problem is that
you have to do work on the way that we're
like on the wages where you're going, maybe you should
have done woke up a little bit earlier. That's right.
They probably lift themselves up by their bootstraps and get
it together. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh you're getting crushed by your job. I don't want
to see it in front of me, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Uh, The article that I did fully write on my
phone was the January sixth article when I was when
I went to the Capitol building. Oh okay, I'll give you. Yeah,
I needed a file literally right then, and so I
just typed out everything as it happened to published it
in a couple hours.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
And it was It read like one of Jeffrey Epstein's emails.
It was just like no capitalizations, stations scattered throughout.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Luckily you got a good editor.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So yeah, all right, we're gonna take a quick break,
then we're gonna come back and talk about some news.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
And somebody told Trump about this affordability thing, this crisis.
It really must be hard for him, who has never
you know, to afford anything in his life, never had
any sort of lack in his life, and also doesn't
seem to be able to hear people who aren't billionaires

(29:27):
like you know, like fully take them in as humans. Yeah,
so this is probably news to him. Will some people
are like having trouble.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, well, when you're that wealthy, you're all your wealth
is just like built on exploiting people's like labor. So
at that point you truly don't see them as people.
You're like, yeah, these are my fucking smurfs that I
squeezed dollars out of. What the fuck are they complaining about?
But yeah, the Trump is having a summit or had
one already with McDonald's franchisees about affordability, and I guess like,

(29:57):
rather than like, I don't know, introducing like legislation that
would bar companies from profiting excessively, he'd rather just yell
at a bunch of McDonald's people about it.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
But he lowered the prices like that was basically the right.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, well, when for.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
A day or something, do a sale.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
When you read the comments, you're like, this feels like
somebody's leaning on you McDonald's. But so people, we've talked
about how he was going to go on a speaking
tour to address the affordability crisis and just not listen.
Yeah yeah, no, no, no, no, you will hear me.
You will hear me again, And he said he was
just going to go around not offering solutions, but merely

(30:33):
pointing to his past accomplishments to be like, how you
go say, I'm not doing anything for working people. I'm
doing no tax on tips no tax on overtime. Now,
don't look too deeply into that and see if that's
actually beneficial to those people. But it sounds good and
that's what ideal in So yeah, he continued this, uh,
and they got the people who were asking about, like,
what's going to be going on the McDonald's Sumit it

(30:56):
says a key message at the mcdonald' summit will be
that value and affordability or quote so important to consumers
and elected officials that our franchisees and company are co
investing to bring extra value and affordability to our customers.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
And I'm like, well, hold on.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Affordability is so important to elected officials that franchisees are
investing their own This sounds like legislators like you need
to fucking help us, So whatever you need to do
to bring the fucking cost now, will help you do that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Shit. Yeah, it's like we put money in your pocket.
Now it's time to make me look good.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Right, Like, this isn't because we've talked about i mean
over the like the last since we've been doing this show.
It's always been like how fucking expensive fast food is
getting to the point where it's not even some shit
where you're like, bro, I can't like I can eat
fast food for cheap at least now it's like I
gotta count the coins in my pocket before I go
to like McDonald's or some shit. Axios did report that

(31:53):
McDonald's is quote taking the rare step of footing part
of the bill for its new extra value meals to
win back cash strap.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
So okay, and.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
There's probably no quid pro quo where you know, the
FDA looks the other way as they like just call
it an extra pound of u sawdust to all of
their products.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Its sawdust.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
But it just feels like, like, so the greed is
causing such bad optics for this administration. They're begging slash
coercing McDonald's into bringing prices down as a smoke screen,
because we have heard McDonald's be like, we are our
customers can't even afford our product, like that is being
talked about within the boardrooms. Now again that that means

(32:40):
are you willing to make less profits? Are you willing
to take that extreme step to make less money?

Speaker 3 (32:46):
And I will say the McDonald's is franchise base, franchise
e like based, so you can put the pressure downwards.
So you're not asking billionaires to take a pay cut.
You're asking them to put pressure on the you know,
p people who own the individual outlets, right right, So
it's that that's a way of doing this that doesn't

(33:07):
require you to put pressure on corporate America in any way.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's it's really beautiful. It's like a beautiful trick they've done.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
But yeah, this administration has been throwing out all kinds
of ideas how to bring prices down, and Trump has
even gone up, like gone back on being like Biden
started the high prices, but I will fix it. And
but now they're finding themselves and being like okay, so
how and they're like.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Ask them to lower the prices?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, because you like Yon tried asking them.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it requires them to do things that are antithetical
to their entire worldview, like so like don't write socialist
checks your capitalists ass can't cash.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, you know that's what he's trying to do. Yeah,
you know this is going to work so beautiful, beautifully
for them. And that sort of drives me nuts because
I think for like the past, it's not like a
Republican or democ issue. I think like the way that
it's been working for the past ten like decade, is
that the top one percent. Berniey Senters has been talking

(34:08):
about this forever. The top one percent has been just
siphoning money from the middle class and the lower class
like crazy. And now like that all of the money
has already floated to the top, they're gonna trickle just
a little drop back down and they're gonna act like
they're actually doing something right. And the way that it's
been working in Trump world, where they're just desperate for anything,
any sign of life in the Trump administration, that they're

(34:30):
going to actually turn this into a win. And I
hate to say it, it's gonna work. And you know,
I saw a little bit of the video of him
like going up and like talking about it, and just
the laughs that he got in the room when he
was he was like, you know, I'm the first president
that have been elected who was formerly a fry cook
at McDonald's. I think the way that the room erupted
and laughter, I think tells you everything about how this

(34:52):
is that play.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Is that because he did that one photo op as
a fry.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Cook or no, he's just making fun of himself, and
I think people are just it's a party and everybody
it's like a big birthday celebration more than it is
any policy like movement. It's just gonna work out.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Life is just one long birthday party for him, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
And I think the way that he photoshopped like the
McDonald's double arches on top of the White House, are
they wasted they and they put grimace in a maga hat.
I think it's it's sort of the same pattern of
trying to create this idealized version of the success, trying
to show Trump as somebody who was actually solving problems.
As long as they can continue to manufacture that image,

(35:39):
their base is going to think of it as a success.
And we're not talking to them. They're not talking to
us anyways, and so there really is no room for
somebody to say, actually, is this actually going to do
make a difference. Now they're gonna be oh no, look,
Trump actually did lower the prices, He did what he
said he was gonna do. Well.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I think that's where they're trying to find the thing
where they're like, clearly the the you know, voted Trump
three times people are they don't need to be convinced.
It's like all the people they kind of siphoned off
in the presidential that they're like, ah, fuck, like we're
losing everybody too, because they would tell everybody else who
they think is gonna vote for.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
A Democrat like just eat shit, we don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
But I think there is like that group because especially
with the number of like Latino voters who are now
just like the like the inversion of that coalition or
the lack of support.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Now they're like, uh, fuck, why what's their problem? What
are they meant about?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Oh, you know, just the kidnappings? Should we just look
at this clip where he talks about we.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Should yeah, we should talk about the books he is
he does kind of have them eating out of his hands,
and then he does something that's like, I don't I
don't know what really happens here, but I just as
you know, not just as a politician, but as as
a person.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's worth watching this as a person.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Doing honest, beautiful hard work and happy family sitting down
to a really great meal, because no matter who you are,
everyone loves some thing at McDonald's. It's always something to have.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I like the fish, I like it. What you could
do a.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Little bit more ta please, seriously, I hate when I said,
you have any do you understand that?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yes, the fish, Okay, I like.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Fish, And he like pushes his hand down a little bit,
so all right. My first impression is it seems like
a clear attempt at a Homer Simpson audibly drooling, thing like.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Okay, But but he like doesn't. So he's just like,
what's but what's the hand doing? Because he's like, I
like the fish, And it looks like he's shifting in
the third gear. Maybe isn't he doing like a crunching
sound like.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Aulating that he's simulating the roof of his mouth coming
down on.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
A Oh, he has a bit of an oral fixation.
It feels like the last year.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I mean it is.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
It's weird, like maybe he has something in his throat.
I don't want to bring that up that that has
nothing to do with anything that's happening elsewhere in the news.
I'm just wondering if he had something in his throat
it was a horse, Okay, I would be a new
fucking angle.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
It was a fucking horse, all right. That he goes
I like the.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Fish makes me wonder if he just like doesn't know
where fish come from.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
He's just like doing.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
He's just like he thinks they're like created by a
robot or something.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
He makes like a ninety degree angle with his either way,
that's what he's trying to do. He's getting them to
talk about anything, but whatever is happening right now? I
am curious, So like how quickly it? Like, so prices
will go down at McDonald's maybe for how long? Yeah,
but what about everywhere else? Because everybody also has bills

(39:02):
to put, like utility bills to pay, they have phone
bills to pay, They've got grocery costs that you know.
The one thing now, he's like like they're trying to
eliminate the tariffs on things like coffee and like tropical
fruit and certain things to just to give the illusion
like like, oh, some things are coming down, but I don't.
I think he also misunderstands that this is it. This

(39:22):
is a like a fucking all encompassing crisis of affordability.
It's not just McDonald's became too pricey, but.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Against your people, right, that's they the shit, right, we'll
go the same.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But that's him too. It's wages.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, and that's the other thing too, And I think
rather than doing addressing any of those things, it's easy
to be like, we're going to be cutting people of
two thousand dollars checks, folks, just to be like, you know,
how about my wages go up?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
How about my healthcare costs? To do something about them? No, No,
here's two thousand. That's you know, don't look into the
analysis of what happened in the lockdown. It did contribute
a bit to inflation, although did.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
That were required in at a very high level from
like the C suite, And that's not what he's requiring
here here he's asking franchises to make less money, so
that you know, and franchisees are not like C suite millionaires.
There are people who own a single McDonald's franchise, or
you know, a group.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Of McDonald if you've got multiple, if you've got a multiples,
I hope.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's some there's some McDonald's franchise
e kingpins for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah. Out here.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
And also he did tweet out that mega hat of
an image AI slop essentially of Grimace wearing a mega hat,
and then they immediately deleted. So I feel like McDonald's
was like whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, yeah, they're like don't, yeah, we don't. That makes
it even funnier.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm not gonna Yeah, well, like the first one they
they they I think they vetoed the one where it
had a swastika armband on, and then.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Maybe like all this the a I thought that they've done.
There was a panic on the Trump side. We're like, oh,
that's too far, that's too far. Take that back. Yeah,
but that's all dripping poop on protesters in Chicago, right right.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
What's also just funny to me is like that the
McDonald's has enough sway. They're like, hey, man, take that
ship down. And they're like sorry, sorry, yeah, sorry, I
guess we got to white nationalists dip on our chip there.
Sorry about that, McDonald's. We will remove the post at once.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Let's talk real quick about the LAPD, who We've been
on a pretty steady. The police and human caging system
in America is inhumane, doesn't work to make people safer,
and it seems like the people in charge of running
that system might be catching onto that fact too crazy
because in LA we spend billions of dollars in tax

(41:42):
money to keep the LAPD and fast cars and new guns.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
The finest guns we keep our police and the finest guns, and.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Tearing through the sky and helicopters. Nobody has really explained
the purpose of oh.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Paying lawsuit settlements for their illegal behavior.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Us.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
That's actually a huge burden on the city.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
The helicopters. Man, I feel like we gotta. I feel
like we could. We could take over the golf courses.
If Mom Donnie can get elected, we can get rid
of the LAPD helicopters and take over the golf course
and LAPD helicopters. Like, don't once you just like take
a second to think about it, You're like, so that's
just for car chases, Like that's why the fun that

(42:23):
they need to be, why the sky need to be
constantly swarming with helicopters.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's also also have they heard of drones? Right?

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Oh, you know they have, yeah, budgets, Like we need
just a few of those. But also I'm I'm sure
they're like, but we also need the helicopters so we
can just keep a low grade stress, like just a
nice low grade stress for low income area. You're being watched, Yeah,
just buzzing down through neighborhoods, to keep them alive.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
You know, you're gonna keep them awake that you know
they have multiple purposes.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
So on the question of what the money is being
spent on and how it's working, the LAPD is just like,
we're not telling just trust us. It's for your own good.
That's essentially what they've done.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
They've gone with, right, because we used to have a
crime map that you could look at at any time
that was basically like here's the crime data website. You
can go look to your neighborhood. You can just see
there's records of like locations of crimes, the use of force,
number of other like all kinds of data, just like
what the cops are up to. And it was somewhat

(43:25):
trained by law.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Right, there's a law, the public transparency law that for
years the LAPD has had to maintain records to improve
inspection and accountability. And then abruptly this year they were like, heh,
you actually can't see it. And when asked why, they
said that the information quote has the potential to lead

(43:50):
to misguided public policy discussions or unjustified public panic, which
I believe the first one is their concern that they're like, oh, man,
you guys are gonna cut our funding if you know
what's actually going on, but the idea that it would
lead to public panic. They love some statistics that make
them look like they are necessary and make their job

(44:14):
look dangerous and make it look like they're having to
fight things and crimes out of control. They when there's
when there's a crime, they're the first ones to tell
you about that. So I have to assume at this
time of like rapidly dropping violent crime across American cities,
that their their problem is not we don't want to
show you guys, because you can.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Be too scared. You can be too scared, you're gonna
make you're gonna need us too much. We don't want
you to see how much everyone is so dumb man,
They think everyone is as dumb as them.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
It's so patronizing to be like, oh, you guys, won't
even wrap your head around this data that shows we're
doing fuck all and wasting money, because then you're gonna
you don't even want and you're gonna fucking panic or
some ship, dude, because it sounds like you. That data
is going to be so incriminating in terms of the

(45:06):
just just total waste of money that we pay these
people who most of them don't even live in the
fucking city. They're out of towners who come in and
just fucking bad up the actual people who live in
the city. Yeah, right now, there's a lot of back
and forth trying to get this information out. The mayor's
office has not even returned to Andy, hasn't given any
kind of comment on this, because, yeah, how are you

(45:28):
gonna defend this, Like you don't want to be transparent
with the data about what you're up to, then then
tell your story if you if you're if you're so
concerned about what the what people are gonna get from
this data, then why don't you release it and you
give whatever your analysis is and then allow people to
look through the raw data themselves.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
It's like a kid just being like, what, I gotta
tell you something, but you're gonna be mad at me? Yeah,
tell you you're gonna be so mad at me? Do
you promise you're not gonna be mad at me? Then
I'm not telling you.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You're gonna get mad? Well, did you do something bad?
I don't know we're gonna get mad? Are you gonna
be mad?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I don't I mean, I'm protecting you from this information
because you're gonna be so mad.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
We're gonna be so mad.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh, anyone tell you?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
This is why I didn't tell you nothing. Shout out
to the LA You can almost imagine how that meeting went,
where they were just like, wait, why are we even
giving this to people on the why so they could
be mad at us? This is so dumb. I'm sure
some poor, low level person have to go on the
website and scrub.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
It right, or I'm sure some some person who's in
charge of that was like whatever, you just always posted,
and so I'm like, just just.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Don't fucking post this one. Don't fucking post this one.
They're like what what what It's just like, oh, no.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
If we didn't ye, no, no, there's a law, but
what if there wasn't. Yeah there is who's gonna enforce
the law?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Where the police? Yeah, exactly one hundred per cent?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
But yeah, I mean like because also, like in twenty fifteen,
the LA Times like they, you know, did an investigation
show that they were doing the LAPD was involved in
all kinds of misclassification errors that were artificially lowering the
city's crime levels.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
So we're just messy. We're just messy guys. We're you know,
we're like loose cannons.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Did you ever see Rigs or John McClain doing fucking paperwork?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Hell no, dudell, No, they hated it, beating the ship
out of people.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Happy though, look at the numbers this lower.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, I mean, I think the I think the biggest
thing is really for people to understand how much tax
revenue like La County generates, or even just even at
least city does, and you look at the services we have,
and then you just look at how much of that
money goes to police overtime and settling these lawsuits for
their fucking actions of impropriety. To put it lightly, Yeah,

(47:51):
it's it would it's my numbing. And people are like, damn,
why do the streets look like this? I'm like, because
a lapd.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Right, you say, why why does the streets look like this?
As a helicopter flies over your head, It's like, it's
a shame of mine.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
It drives me nuts because in New York we're having
this whole news cycle discussion about what Zoron means when
he meant when he said defund the police like ten
years ago, and it's so easy for people to just
explain it. Right, It's simple. You take some of the
budget that's like that's being wasted, that's actually not being
used for good police work, and you spend it on
services so that the police aren't being overwhelmed with non

(48:27):
stop calls for every little thing. It just makes sense
when you when you hear it said out loud. But
then it doesn't even matter. You take what you're saying is, oh,
so you want crime or are you pro crime? Then
oh yeah, you want people to kill you? Yes, look
at me, dude, I'm pro crime. Look at me.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I've lost my mind and I'm pro crime. And my
wife pant they get fucking robbed every time I leave
the house. That's my dream, right, because that's a reasonable
person says no, Like to your point, it's like, we
take all the money they fucking waste, Like we're only
spending four thousand dollars a minute on helicopters and putting
that into the social safety net programs that like to

(49:06):
your point, you know, lead to actually.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Less ride And because we live in a democracy, and
all hinges on whether or not this group and that
group can have a conversation, and it just we so
clearly can't control All of our policies are being based
off of what slogan sounds better and how much a
happy meal will now cost.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I mean, like I wonder if there even is a
way to tell these cops like, look, guys, y'all are
making a lot of money, all right, we're gonna take
a little we're taking some money away, okay, and you
still get to drive your gigantic truck.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Wouldn't it be nice to like not respond to everything?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, right right, It's like, but we got to work
this out, baby. This ain't this isn't just some shit
that you can just bleed the city dry with all
your fucking overtime shit.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
You talk to the cops and like a lot of
them are like, yeah, I don't like that there are
no mental health resources in the city.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
That's bad for us. The cop. Yeah, even then everything
with a with a cop, you can just throw a
cop and expect to work out.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
According to Joe Biden gave that speech, it's like, what
you want to defund the police? The police are psychiatrists.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
There are doctors, our lovers, there are lots didn't want
to ask corn Pop if he knows who Buppa is,
that's a great question. We need you need to find out.
I don't even think.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I don't even know if corn Pop knows who corn
Pop that they are corn Pop, Joe Biden. Just think
some random black duty shook hands with like seventy years
ago and corn Pop was a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Okay, sir, how did you fat what files? He never has?

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Has that been searched? That's your job as a journalist
to tell us.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, I gotta google this.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. We're back, and let's talk about first
of all, why Nicki Minaj is addressing the UN addressed

(51:09):
the UN yesterday. Her involvement was arranged by the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
She tweeted, couldn't address the UN just off the strength
of her and the Barbs.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I know I would think so, but the writing and
a post ambassador. I'm so grateful to be entrusted with
an opportunity of this magnitude. I do not take it
for granted. Means more than you know, the Barbes and
I will never stand down in the face of injustice.
We've been given our influenced by God. There must be
a bigger purpose. Trump media advisor Alex bruce Witz, who's

(51:40):
also expected to speak at the event, and this was
to highlight claims of Christian persecution in Nigeria, which, first
of all, I do just want to say. Now we've
got two of the three people on Monster now fully
aligned with the right. Only Jay Z's our last holdout.

(52:01):
I mean he's I say he was low key, you know,
as a billionaire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's part of
that set. But yeah he's not. He hasn't open. He
doesn't fully become a part of the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Could you imagine?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Like and he has who better than Sean Carter as
my liaison for Housing and Urban Development?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
He said, the streets is watching, and he knew it's
kind of it's kind of nice when people like this
get involved and they do, like want to take a position.
I think it's really cool. It's just NICKI minajal people.
I can't. I don't think I ever got over when
she talked about how the COVID vaccine will make your
testicle swollen. Yeah, cousin and their cousin. Yeah, they pulled

(52:42):
off because they took up the COVID vaccine. It's like, yeah,
it's it's good. We should want people to to like
take stances and be political, you know, volved. Yeah, but
don't on the line.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah yeah, don't get charged up off of Bill mahersh segment.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, so that is what happened. This is what happened.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Earlier this month, she praised Trump for threatening military action
against Nigeria over this slaughter of Christians.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Trump had air quotes for slaughter.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I think it's important to yeah, yeah, over the quote
unquote a latter of Christians. He ordered the military to
prepare for action in Nigeria to tackle Islami's militant groups
because the government is failing to protect Christians and promise
to do things to Nigeria that Nigeria is not going
to be happy about. He always does shit like that,
like he's flirting, and you know, obviously he doesn't give

(53:33):
a fuck about Nigerians. But this gives conservatives an excuse
to paint Christians as the real victims in our world.
They're so warny to be like persecuted, you know. And
in twenty twenty, he similarly stated the government, the government
of Nigeria was not doing enough to protect the safety
of Nigerians, especially Christians, and there's been like Ted Kruz

(53:57):
has recently come out and been like fifty thou Christians
have been killed since two thousand and nine by armed
Islamist groups in Nigeria. Of course, he did not cite
sources for the information, and we think like that this
really got going a week before Cruz's tweet because Bill
Maher on his show is this what the fuck's is

(54:22):
still the Real Time or whatever the fuck? I don't know,
real time, real talk, real whatever the fuck racist self
hating loser show on he used his HBO show to
claim that Islamists spoke Oharam are systematically killing the Christians
in Nigeria.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Okay, this is new role.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
This is so much more of a genocide attempt than
what is going on in Gaza. They're literally attempting to
wipe out the Christian population of an entire country. His sources,
according to people who are actual journalists, say that it's
largely fabricated claims and manip images from unverified outlets. But

(55:03):
of course that segment was later picked up by Fox News,
which is how it gets to Trump and Ted Cruz,
which is how it then gets to Nicki minaj.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Wonderful love that love that pipeline, the Bill Maher to
Nicki Minaj un pipeline really really impressive, And I mean,
god do people don't people know Bill Maher, Like, I
don't even know how the fuck he's still on HBO.
This guy has such a sordid record of Islamophobic bullshit
that he says on his show for fucking decades. Yes

(55:34):
that anytime he mentions anything outside of him wanting to
have sex with like video vixens from the like two thousands,
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Bro, this this is some fucking bullshit. This is some lie.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yeah, And just to just to think that it goes
from there to now that this whole sort of narrative
that they're really trying to get going of, like, let's
we honestly we need to protect Christians everywhere, and maybe
that's a justification for increased militarism around the world. I
don't know, maybe or just just to change the optic
a bit.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, turned it into a religious war. Things should be
what they're going for. Yeah, they want to be able
to like clap back at the accusations of the side. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
This is Yeah, he dropped that report around the time
that Nigeria support voice support for a two state solution
to the Palestinian conflict at conflict at the twenty twenty
five u in General Assembly. So he went and like
cherry picked fake sources from across the internet and then
you know, put together a segment basically being like, oh, interesting,

(56:33):
that's rich coming from you Nigeria.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Well, they're also using the shorthand Islamist group means the
crusades against Christian people. It's like, do you know anything
about Boko Haram, Yeah, they just read about it.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Boko Haram has positioned itself against the Nigerian state as
an apostate entity, not against any single religious group. There's
no one motive behind the attacks. And not only is
it not a genocide against Christians, but the majority of
victim of armed group, of the armed group are Muslims.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
It's sad man. No. Bokharm is a real problem. And
it's like one of many of these kinds of paramilitary
groups that feed off of young kids and they go
into these places, they kidnap the kids and they raise
them up to be fighters and it's and it's just
really sad that this only comes up in the context of, oh, well,

(57:24):
you thought that what we were doing was bat how
come I don't hear you talking about this? And the
same thing goes for what's happening in Sudan. Man, it's devastating.
It's devastating if you're keeping up with what's happening over there.
But I only ever see it being talked about online
in the context of like, oh well, how come you're
not protesting your goods loose?

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Yes, I just need I only find out about this
stuff when it's brought up by a major pop diva.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I need I need that.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, with questionable marital choices, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I need a Lady guy got Away in on Sudan.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I'm sitting I'm sitting on my keep my powder dry
till Lady got and Olivia Rodrigo.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Olivia Rodrigo would be very interested to hear what she
has to say. I mean, she's younger.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I feel like she probably has something to say. I
feel like the younger ones.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Definitely what a Suprina Carpenter said about that.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Serena Carpenter would be also interesting. I think she probably
prefers to get stay uninvolved. I just for some reason,
I can't not picture her as young Hillary Clinton anymore.
I saw that side by side, I was just like, damn.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I'm gonna look at it.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
You know what, Miles, I'm gonna stick with my original
stance because one of the things for sure is that
absently and without uh information, accusing pop divas of things
never backfires on the internet. Yeah, Taylor Swift fans are
pretty cool and reasonable and don't don't get mad if
you if you're just like I don't know, they seem
like kind of a weird couple, like fuck you, even

(58:55):
such a pleasure having you as always? Where can people
find you? Follow you all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I'm mostly on Instagram posting dumb stuff, usually my articles.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
And yeah, I'm about in the middle of my book tour,
so please check in and see where I'm going to
be next. I'm gonna be in Miami next week and
then Seattle two weeks after that. So yeah, I'm being
all over talking about becoming bub by, talking about my journalism,
saying yes to everything there it is. Is there a
work of media that you've been enjoying? You know, I've

(59:28):
been really enjoying the daily guist. I think, oh, have you.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Guys heard that?

Speaker 2 (59:34):
So crazy?

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Hey for the listeners, y'all. I don't know if y'all
heard this show.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I was on board until they were fucking rude about
Sabrina Carpenter. Jack clearly has an anti Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
They're not nice to tell the Swift fans I've heard
mm hm that's yeah. But they are asking the real questions.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, like like, yeah, exactly exactly or a horse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Seriously. I love coming on the show. I love talking
to you guys. I love listening. I listened as often
as I can. You guys are literally doing the real
work out here. Man. Oh no, thanks so much, he says.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Going from somebody who's actually doing the hand type January sixth,
journalists from the front lines of an actual insurrection, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Would say we're about twenty levels lower, but we're on
the same tree.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
I appreciate that. I love you guys. Just don't never
let me just don't ever let me catch you with
a with its laptop on the train. No ever, never.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I mean not on the subway, right, but like we
give me all the time on the subway is fine,
but like track.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
He's tying on New York train.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, you can do Amtrak though, I mean that's what
that's what the Amtrak's for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Amtrak is nice. It's like every seat is like its
own little room. Yeah, all right, all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Right, Miles. We had to let him and go to
you know, go get his kid from school. So to
the transparency there yet, I just want to transparency at
this school if you want to meet him there Jersey.
But I do dying to ask you, where can people
find you? And is there a working media you've been at, Joel?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
After all these years, it still feels since here, Jack,
I gotta say, you can find me everywhere at Miles
of Gray. You find me talking about ninety day Fiance
on four to twenty Day Fiance.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
That's the show I do with Sophia Alexandro. Let's see
a work of media. I like, m no, okay, oh,
I can one. You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
We have a new format of the daily Zeitgeist in
case you missed it, Evergreen episodes dropping Monday morning. The
first episode of this new format about icons, deep dives
into icons about Einstein, dropped on Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
You can go back in the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Feed and find it and then yeah, these are gonna
be dropping weekly for a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Just so you know, we want to I think we've
talked about it before. It's like we want to keep talking,
but also not talk about the creeping fees or not
even creeping whatever ever.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Present Yeah, present oppressive fascism. It's a it's a fun one.
It's it's a you know, when the photographer is like,
do a silly one just for just for us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
That's what these are. Yet, Yeah, that's what these are.
But I can muster up sticking my tongue out like Einstein.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Yeah, there you go. Was that what you were going
to say? You got something else?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
No, I was just thinking about what I was watching yesterday,
and I don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
To admit that I was watching below decks was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Okay, and you haven't and you haven't admitting I was
lying when I just said that out loud.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
In addition to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Our new format, Evergreen Daily's like some Monday morning about icons,
I've been enjoying a couple of tweets, Chateau tweeted, the
worst part of being a good listener is that people
get creeped out by the information I've retained about them
just from listening. You ever had that where you're like, oh, yeah,
you were in Texas like last year, and they're like, wow,

(01:03:07):
good memory, but like they get kind of freaked out
or like I feel like it's like a competit where
they're like, fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I don't know where this guy was last year at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know I have I have a memory like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
It helps definitely in like business settings because they're like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
God, and you are my business man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
You're not a business in your business man, now, let
me handle my business man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
So I was enjoying that. I was enjoying. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
So there was a newswork report Newswire underscore us Trump
I wasn't with Epstein all the time at all and
I hate you unemployed flop. Andrew Cuomo retweeted that and
said Tim Robinson as syntax, oh my god, all the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Time at all, all the time at all?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Wow, and then no context Humans tweeted a video with
the tagline It's the simple things. It's just these kids
throwing an apple. They're like around a light pole that
has like a point on the top of the light
and they're just throwing an apple and trying to stick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
It on the top.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
And then they get it and just the pure joy
like that they feel. Again, this goes with the things
we've been talking about about, just like pure mind numbing,
like doing shit just to do stuff, like those little
challenges that you can set for yourself. Oh yeah, you
can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, Brian. You
can find me on Blue Sky at Jack will be

(01:04:31):
the number one. You can find us on Twitter and
Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist
on Instagram. You can go to this episode wherever you're
listening to it and in the description at the bottom
you will find the footnotes. This is where we link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think

(01:04:51):
you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you
think that people might enjoy?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yes, there is. I was just listening.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
TikTok serves you all kinds of music, and there's like,
you know, this is a genre of like corridos that
are called trap corridos, and this artist Junior h Is
like fucking you know up there, And I think I've
just realized too, because I listened to all kinds of
music like I'll listen to a lot of electronic music
and then you kind of need to hear people playing
instruments and really just like kind of singing and shit.

(01:05:22):
This is called Sad Boys to Dollar sign for the
for the S and Sad Boys II like boys to Men.
But yeah, this is Junior H. Most people have probably
heard this song. But if you haven't, just just familiarize
yourself with a new genre of music that maybe you
don't listen to as much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Because they're not singing in English.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
So this is Junior H with Sad Boys too, all right.
We will link after that in the footnotes for these
is a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from
iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
you listen to your favorite shows.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
That is going to do it for us this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Morning, but we are back this afternoon to tell you
what is trending and we'll talk to you all then.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Bye. By The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long,
co produced by Bee Wang, co produced by Victor Wright,
co written by J M mcnapp, edited and engineered by
Justin Conner.

The Daily Zeitgeist News

Advertise With Us

Follow Us On

Hosts And Creators

Jack O'Brien

Jack O'Brien

Miles Gray

Miles Gray

Show Links

StoreAboutRSSLive Appearances

Popular Podcasts

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.