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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What are his feelings on the prequels.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
He hated them. I'm pretty sure we walked out of
one of them.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I didn't see the third one for a long time.
The second one kind of put me off. It had
like a good scene the second one, but then it
also had some of the worst scenes like in the
history of the movie kind of strong where it opens
really strong that.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It was like a chase through the city.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The chase is fucking dope, where he like jumps out
of the thing and like uses his force powers to
just like know that he's going to time it perfectly
to like land on their thing as cool as hell. Yeah,
and then like in the middle, it's like him being like,
but I love you, and.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Like just he's like such a drama queen.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
He was like nine years old or whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, and he's like five years younger than her. I
think she he's like supposed to be even younger than
the actor is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, as far as the characters, I mean they meet
when he's like seven and she's a full adult.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well she's Natalie Portman. Yeah, it's is younger than Macaulay
Culkin and home alone when they meet and she is
Natalie full Natalie.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Portaletman Natalie, and when he is I guess an adult,
but like it is, it's the there's it's a very
creepy dynamic.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's just like she knew him when he was five,
she was an adult.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Still creepy, Anakin, you look so different now you've grown.
You've grown, Annakin, and you have grown more beautiful than
the last time I saw you. Even energy, Yes, shut off.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But you you remember that scene quite well because it
is basically verbatim what the dialogue.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You watch it twenty times later.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I do watch it a lot. Hello the Internet, and
welcome to season four oh three, episode three of Dear
Daily Zaigeist. It's a production by Heart Radio. It's a
podcast where we take a deep dive into america shared consciousness.
And it is Wednesday, August twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.
(02:19):
A happy anniversary to my parents. Oh. First of all,
the forty nine two can be freaking fifty next year.
They got married on the bi centennial because they're super
patriot now just I think accidentally. Anyways, my name's Jack
O'Brien aka Milky Thighs. They're so caked up you won't
(02:44):
recognize I've got milky thighs. Don't worry, that's just wood.
That one courtesy of Bottles and Fans on the Discord
in reference to my cad up thick milky thighs. Thrilled
to be joined in our second sea by a very
(03:05):
funny comedian, actor, writer improviser who special Spiritually Filthy is
out now on YouTube. Go check it out. It's more
burn hell Friends. Thanks Jack, he's like to be here.
I am.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I met Jack for the first time yesterday. And if
you think you think he's hot on camera, wait until
Zach is seven foot four in person.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I am seven foot four, which is then not hot.
That's actually troubling. That's very People are very scared of me.
I'm out in the size of shack in person.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah. Yeah, you're one shack tall, so I measure people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, percentages of a shack, Yeah you get it. Yeah.
And you a very striking man in person. And they're
very well dressed, fashionable, a great button up, short sleeve shirt. Yeah,
this sort of thing I never can pull off, but
I'm always admiring the people who do. I feel like
it's like a one of those like shirts that you
(04:08):
find somewhere you know, it's not just like a thing
you buy at a store. You'd have to go find
it or something.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
This really good, this great. That sure came from a
great friend of my friend, my friend Miranda Perry, who
they are a super funny, talented comedian. They happen to
be a lesbian, and they and I dress exactly the same.
I like they have killer styles. So Miranda is always
giving me the amazing these amazing shirts that I've never
received from a straight man ever, Like it's so solid.
(04:39):
That's great, a friend who's wardrobe you can share, it's
the tops.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, we're thrilled to be joined in air third seat
by one of our very favorite guests, very talented writer,
stand up comedian and co host of The Bechdel Cast,
one of the great film podcasts. Two great film podcasters,
two days in a row. That were you know, three,
we had two on yesterday. I can't do math. They
also happen to have a master's degree in film and
(05:06):
the most anagrammable name in the English language, So if
you've been given their name as a jumble of out
of order scrabble tiles, you may know them as Lauren d.
Titanic nine tit Dracula, but to us, they will always
be Kaitlin Duronte.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Anyone is anyone going to talk about how hot I am?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What's Kaylin? Yeah, when we meet in person, I'll talk
about it to the point that it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
One and a half shacks, also a half shacks, incredible,
so hot.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You can't sit on an airplane.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Caitlin, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I'm fine. I'm gearing up for the Bechdel Cast Midwest
tour where we're covering the Star Wars prequels.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You are wearing a six Star Wars t shirt right now,
and you Yeah, we were talking, You're you're going prequels,
You're you're diving in. We were talking yesterday about something
I've noticed that I'm still trying to figure out how
I feel about this. That like my like young nephews
who are like ten and eleven or ten and twelve
(06:20):
are obsessed with The Simpsons, but they're like obsessed with
the last like the past five seasons, Like they won't
even like go back into the archive to like bother
watching the classic ones. And you will be talking about
the Star Wars prequels, which in like younger generations are
just kind of viewed as, Yeah, they're like also good. Yeah,
(06:42):
they're also good. Like the Star Wars the other Star
Wars is they're made by the same guy, you know,
so like they're.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Pretty same characters. Yeah, therefore good.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, they're like in their mind, jar Jar and Yoda
pretty much the same.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, they're both green, they both talk funny. Nothing wrong
in either case. But you are not full prequel pilled
like like some of our younger listeners might be.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I really am not. I grew up on the original
trilogy and it's not like those movies are perfect. But
oh boy, disparity and quality between them and the prequels
is large. And but I mean, I mean, I'm very
excited for our shows. They're gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think they're gonna be so great.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I've edited a lot of videos, we have a lot
of presentations. I'm gonna wear a Sith costume. It's a
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
A Sith costume, being Darth small mostly just net well
and spikes, spikes.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That I would really have my work cut out for me. No,
I'm just gonna wear like black robes that you should.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Spend whatever it costs to get an actual functioning lightsaber
that kid likes cut a car in half. I'm talking
to sink like a harder grand into it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I you know it would I have no like weapons
at my house, so I'm like, maybe you know I
need a weapon in case I have to kill someone
home intruder.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know, yeah, you need a saber. You need a
lights I need a lightsaber for that.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There's no like, what's the best way to do that?
Would that be a blow torch or like a welding,
like one of those welding things, but just like a
little bit more powerful. I don't know, kids, I don't
know there any of our younger listeners figure that out.
Do some experimentation and report.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Get a blowtorch, get a lighter.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Go try some different things. My issue with the prequels
is largely that the protagonist it turns out as Darth Vader.
What the fuck like that? I was rooting for that? No.
I the Anakin performances I think are lacking. Personally.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
The performance is all around, like, how can you put
Samuel L. Jackson in a movie? And he's so normally
so magnetic and interesting and fun to watch, and then
in these movies everyone is just delivering every line very monotone,
like yeah, just and I know it's probably like a
Jedi thing or whatever. There's nonical reason, but it sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sucks, like Natalie Portman has never been bad in anything else,
but in this what the fuck? Yeah, for some reason,
they're just like, I don't know, like act like you've
never even heard of acting, like you're not even familiar
with the concept kind of because this is like a
different planet, so they won't even have it true.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, there's no UCB.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, there's no there's no UCB in Star Wars, in
the Star Wars universe. Right, They've got jigz and that's it,
Like that's their only art form. Jizz is the name
of the music.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I'm not being gross, it's it's Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
A perfectly normal name for their music. Okay, type of music.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I look like I've tried to legally marry Star Wars,
but I did. I've never really watched it, Like I've
seen the first three and I think I saw one
of the prequels, but I just was never So I'm
gonna ask a question, what's the name of the little
guy who is who's a round job of the hut.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh, salacious bat crumb.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You mean I took I did take a UCB class
with him.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That little guy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, that's that was a very long walk for that joke.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
What's his name?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, I took a yeah, I took Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Great names though the guy cannot be topped in terms
of names. I mean is called job boo frick. Yeah,
that's what. He did have a slight misstep with naming
jazz music in the Star Wars universe jizz, because I
guess that's not a word that people were using a
lot around George Lucas in the seventies. Anyways, Caitlin, we're
(10:59):
thrilled to have you here. As always, we're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things. We're
talking about the world. The mainstream media world continues to
try to make sense of the rise of Zora Mumdani.
They've resorted to a very strange thesis having to do
(11:19):
with movies, which which is appropriate because we have Caitlin
here specifically that people voted for zorin Mumdani, because because
movies four years have been telling people that capitalism is
evil and rich people are evil, and that socialism is good.
(11:43):
And I want to examine that thesis with you guys,
based on just I don't know, every movie that's ever held.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
This article is suggesting that people have had enough of
the woke media.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I think they're saying point yeah. I think what they're
saying is that people are being brainwashed by the woke
movies that tell them that rich people are evil, and
that's why they voted. That's the only possible explanation for
why anybody would vote for Zormumdani. To be honest with you,
I can't come up with anything else. We'll talk about that.
(12:19):
We'll talk about we will talk about viral AI kitten
videos that are being just generated. Right now, Like since
I started the sentence, five hundred viral AI kitten videos
have been created and posted to the Internet. We'll talk
about what that's doing to our soul. Is good spoiler alert,
(12:41):
It's very.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Good all kitten videos, regardless of their AI generated or not.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But yeah, yeah, but if you can burn down a
forest in the process of making these videos that are
already good, like why not?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Why not do that?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
All of that plenty more, But first, Caitlin, we do
like to ask, guessed, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well to keep talking about the Star Wars prequels, because
I need to just plug the stars as much as possible.
But I did search for this, and I'll tell you
why I searched for Palpatine's lightsaber color because I have
been brainstorming a list of possible like drinks beverages for
(13:30):
the venues that we're performing at to like kind of
create a special drinks menu for our show. And so
I was like, oh, a Palpatini and it should be
read because of Palpatines lightsaber color being red. And then here,
let me just pull up the list of other drinks
(13:53):
I've crafted, you know, listeners and Jack and Moore, you're
welcome to riff on this as well. Let's see the
qui gon gin and tonic, I mean unbeautaful that's beautiful,
A Darth vodka and cranberry.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Or any vodka dark Father. So that actually worked, does it? Really?
Okays Vader? That's a like apocryphal thing people were like,
and actually everybody would have known that his name that
he was actually looks father. If you knew the German
translated to dark father, and then you actually look it
up and it like doesn't mean ship, it doesn't translate,
(14:37):
just like.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, that just I think that's a joke from like
Pitch Perfect, where Anna Kendrick is like Vader means father
in German. So obviously, but the important thing here also
is that the vodka that should be used should be
Anakin sky Walker vodka.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Now we're having fun. And then of course there's also
and then this is where things get a little bad
obi one Canoe beer.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And I'm sorry, did you say this is where things
get brilliant? Perfect? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Sorry I misspoke. And then finally, mace.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wine Do wine do? Sounds like it's I'm going to
get some mountain dew in there? Do I is a
mixture of wine and mountain.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Wine plus a Cabernet sevignon plus mountain dew. Actually that
sounds kind of good.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm in I have seventeen years sober. I will relapse
on that if you make.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It please Yeah, sorry, but.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is it relapsing if you just injected directly into my veins?
But it doesn't like I don't have to drink it.
It just goes right into my veins. That's probably fine, right, Yeah,
those are great and are do you do you think
that you're going to get cooperation from the venues? I hope.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I emailed all of them and said, like, here's
my brilliant menu, do with it what you will, and
if they don't do it, that's their loss. They're they're
they're losing out on millions of dollars that they would
have generated at our show.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, untold millions. Part of my ignorance. But I did
have to look up Palpatine. I can't believe his name's not.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Jiz He he looks ye see all right, he's not
doing he's not doing great now.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
He seems bad. All the people, all the forced people
seem bad, like you would think that all the power
they're like, this is the best feeling. It feels so good,
and they're just like dying like the whole time. They
just look like absolute shit, which does seem to also
be what happens to people who just embrace conservative politics,
(16:48):
Like they look like shit, but they also live forever.
They also have force lightning powers. They have finger lightning
that comes out of their fingers.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, they should, they should call whatever disease band and
Steve Bannon has the palpatine.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, he's got some. He's palpatine in big time.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, well your skin melts and you never die.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Guy's been drinking a couple of palpatinis. But we'll look
at us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I think using flash on your phone to take pictures
is underrated. No one does it anymore. Yeah, as soon
as we got rid of digital cameras, everyone's just taking
pictures on their phones, but no one uses flash, and
the photos all look like shit if you're in like
a dark like no, I was going back through all
my photos on my phone and half of them look
(17:41):
terrible because the lighting sucks because no one used flash.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And you're taking pictures during a movie what like? Yeah,
of you and your friends just to be fair, and
you've decided to start just using flash. Yeah, I think
that's that's a lost art. I'd say, thank you. Yeah, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I totally agree with that absolutely, And I can't I
can't find it on my phone again because I have
the technical knowledge of a four and a half year old.
But if you want to walk me through that maybe
after the episode, that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh, happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Like, I'll hack into your phone make it possible for
you to use flash. What is something you think overrated?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Caitlin h the idea that everyone should know how to cook,
because I don't know how to cook and I and
I still eat three square meals a day and I'm
doing fine, and but I have people being like, you're
not cooking for yourself, grow up a big baby, And
(18:42):
I'm like, what's the difference.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
These people get the people out of your life? They're
so mean.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I truly do. But yeah, I mean, I can scramble
an egg whatever. I can make very simple things. Obviously
I can boil pasta. But I don't like cooking brings
me no joy, Therefore why would I do it? Eating
brings me a lot of joy, and I love eating
good food that other people who know how to make
food have made. But I'm just never going to be
(19:10):
good at cooking. I've tried many times. I'm very bad
at it. Again, it brings me no joy. So why
would I do something that makes me feel awful and
stresses me out? And that I'm not good at when
you could just.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Bad your neighborhood, like smell a good delicious smelling smell
off your feet over to a pie cooling on a
windowsill and stealing exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Just float around, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Float around. Yeah. The only problem with not cooking is
like ordering food, which if you're good at that, I
suck at ordering food. I feel like I just like
don't want to do the research. This is too confusing.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well, let me teach you about that, because I'm great
at it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
What are you using to evaluate your restaurant options? I.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Uh, trial and error. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
but if I figured out the good ones, then I
just ordered from them.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Again, it feels like it's a lot more clicks than
it used to be to get to the menu, though
I do find myself like it feels like a weird
maze sometimes. Also, I'll say, in reaction to what Jack said,
I think if any of us like I am, are
sort of missing the world of the hobo. I think
where nobody's putting enough hot pies on their windowsills. I
think if we want to bring the community, you know,
(20:29):
that's that's how you catch, that's how you revisit the
romance of.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
The past they were I feel like that was Yeah,
why did Why did they need it too cool on
the windowsill? Like why can't it just cool in the kitchen?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The kitchen's hot because there's no a c right.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, you get the cool breeze going. And secretly they
wanted more hoboes around hobos.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It was a hobo trap. Yeah. Yeah. Do you speaking
of hoboes, do you ever just have a nice can
of beans that you're eating out of the can? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And you can never win fire track campfire, and you can.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Never pull the lid all the way off. It has
to be halfway up.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Just like the hat on top of your head. It
has to be halfway off, just like sticking up like
a half half used can opener. Have you guys seen
Oh I already asked you this more, Caitlin, have you
seen weapons?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I have? Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I feel like that kid should have been better using
can openers personally.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, well, I wonder if that was a reference. Do
you remember that like video that went viral a few
maybe like a year ago, where it was like a
shitty dad being like, hey, kid, here's a can opener.
Figure out how to use it, and you can't have
whatever's inside until you do. And the kid like struggled
for like eight hours or something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh do you remember this? Maybe they were right, Maybe
weapons is right. It would be hard.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
To use if you don't already know. Yeah, you're child,
you're not used to using tools. Yeah, it probably would
be difficult. And so the whole thing was like the
dad was like, I'm teaching my kid like self reliance,
and it's like, no, you're just being a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You can easily just bean dead or that was different.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't know. I don't know the names of any of.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
These, Like you don't know the names of the viral stars,
like bean dead. There was a yeah, bean dead. I
think might be the guy who was was like, yeah,
you figure it out on your own. The kid's like,
I'm fucking starving, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
This also speaks to the lack of hobos. If if
there were more hope, he could just hobble teach a
kid how to open a close can with one old tooth, like.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Bite into it.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, here you go.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yes, forcing his then nine year old daughter to open
a can of beans for six hours without food. What
The story sparked a massive public outcry, and then he
later issued an apology, being like the thing that I
was so proud of that I posted it on social media.
In retrospect, I now recognize that was an l for me,
(23:08):
and I'm a bad dad.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Big Oh this happened in twenty twenty one. That was
way longer ago than I thought.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We should figure out how to get prevent people from
having children who hate children, right, you know, like there's
so much this behavior where I'm like, yeah, you just
enjoyed being me, Like all the people were like no
participation trophies. You're like, I think maybe you just hate
it when children are happy.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it's like dog tooth parenting, where like people who
it's not it might not be that they hate kids,
but they're like, having this kid is my opportunity to
run a really fun experiment. Oh yeah. On, Like there
was a parent who like taught their child cling on
as like their first language and like only expose them
(23:50):
to cling on for like the first handful of years
of their life.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
There's a great video of these two like hyper in
these steampunk parents, but they're like really, you know, their
whole life is stam steampunk and then they interview the
kid and the kid is like, yeah, I don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It fucking sucks. It not a.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Fan umbrella made of gears for no reason.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
All right, fuck cooking, let's uh, let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back. And we're back and
(24:40):
the one you know there, there hasn't been a lot
of people willing to come out and like buck the
big mainstream market based economy, corporate, mainstream media, just the
way things operate. Zoramm Danni is like one person who
(25:01):
had some public success, like got in front of a
lot of people with these ideas that are very different
than the ideas that are being presented by every other politician.
Those ideas resonated. He had unexpected astounding success. And now
for the mainstream media to be like, whoa, what the
fuck just happened? And because they're not able to even
(25:27):
like bring in the ideas of socialism that were common
like in the early twentieth century, they have to like
come up with weird conspiracy theories for why it was popular.
I do just want to in terms of the state
of the race, Zuramumdani is doing like fun little things
(25:50):
like he did a citywide scavenger hunt, which was enjoyed
by thousands of people, who you know, if you succeeded
the scavenger hunt a cup of chry tea at the
finish line. Eric Adams responded to that by saying that
mom Donnie is trying to turn our city into the
Squid Games. You know, the show where happy families compete
(26:13):
for a tea on a sunny afternoon. Yeah yeah, he said,
Ask the people worried about making rent if they thought
it was worth it, Mom Donnie is trying to turn
our city into the Squid Games. Guy fucking rules Cuomo
similarly tried to criticize him for like, just like it
(26:35):
sounds like he's like a student council you know, running
for student council president, and just like Madge that the
fun kid is like beating him. He was like, defund
the police, but great scavenger hunts. No class, free pizza
for all singers was what he wrote on social media,
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being like yeah right, this guy's not serious. And then
also there was I don't I don't even understand why
this happened, but Zora, Mom Donnie like was asked to
bench press his own weight and he did that for
some reason, and he failed to do it, and they
were all over that. They just anything to like make
it about anything else, you know, Cuomo and Adams are
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like more like Mom scrawny. Literally, that's what they said.
But so getting back to trying to explain, like, how's
this guy popular? He does fun stuff, but he can't
even lift, like bench press his own weight.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
What is this these guys can like, what are they
talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, Probably the most baffling anti Mom Donnie take is
from The Wall Street Journal, which published an op ed
blaming his popularity on Jurassic Park and Superman specifically. The
op ed argued that there's absolutely no explanation for why
New Yorkers wouldn't race a candidate who's running on a
platform of affordable housing, free childcare, expanding healthcare, and generally
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standing up to corporations who are fucking everybody over all
the time, unless, of course, the reason for that success
is because it's socialism is glorified in movies. They also say.
They quote Ryan Reynolds's character in the two thousand and
four movie Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
He that character, he is my great spiritual teacher that
Ryan Reynolds Harol Kumar.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, they but so they say, it seems like you're
going to get like some sort of philosophical idea from this,
and instead they just quote him to say, but why.
As Ryan Reynolds character in the two thousand and four
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle asks but why,
A lot of people say, but why you saying they
do invoke that character to say but why, and then
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the next question sentence. One answer is that social is
glorified in movies. Multimillion dollar movies made by massive corporations,
always glorifying socialism. The movies that they point to are
Jurassic World Rebirth, which the characters want to keep a
miracle drug out of the hands of a pharma bro billionaire.
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I just want to read how they described this guy
before explaining further who this character is. Look no further
than this summer's Jurassic World Rebirth. Pharmaceutical executive Martin Kreb's
ruper Frent risks his life and capital to develop a
heart drug, Paleodiaxon, that will extend human life by twenty years,
and he's the bad guy. That character also pulls a
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fucking gun on children in the Okay, he's the bad
guy just because he fucking pulled a gun on a
child in movie called Getting Things Done.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It also sounds like they kind of lost the plot
he had been inventing a medicine to turn people into dinosaurs.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, I guess you. So this is the This is
the thing that I love when they did this in
Avatar to Avatar too, where like they're just like, oh yeah,
and like this the aliens have the cured to death
like hidden inside them, so everybody got killed the aliens.
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But also like Jurassic Park movies, like the villain is
always capitalism, Like the first Jurassic Park movie, it's like
the the issue is that the John Hammond is like
trying to open the park too quickly without like testing
everything because he's like greedy and wanting to like make money.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And the lawyer is like, oh, who cares about the
park safety. We'll make millions off this place.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, and then that guy gets eaten on a toilet.
Not fair.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So this these theories are suggesting that the movies basically
not that they necessarily invented socialism, but they're promoting this
idea of they're promoting before, like anyone else had the
idea to support socialism. And then because these the audiences
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are watching these movies now, they are being brainwashed into thinking.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's not the tightest thesis, really bad the evidence. They're
really just going all over the place. They're like a
palaeontologists worried about high drug prices, says, sciences for all
of us, not some of us. Wait, where have I
heard that? Oh yeah, here's socialist Bernie Sanders last year.
We need an economy that works for all of us,
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not just the billionaire class. A shocking thing to say.
They also make fun of Superman, in which the villain
is a rich guy who looks like Jeff Bezos. Just
worth noting that villain was created in nineteen forty and
has looked like Jeff Bezos the whole time. Hmmm, and
has been a rich guy the whole time. Watch or
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don't watch this summer Superman retread, which features Lex Luthor
again as a corrompti billionaire Hollywood knows no other kind,
threatening truth, justice and the American way, and he looks
like Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos became a billionaire and shaved
his head like Lex Luthor that's not our phone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I love the point of like who's defending the billionaires
with integrity? What about them?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Also, Hollywood has always had like Hollywood is just full
of billionaire like pro billionaire propaganda, Like Tony Stark and
fucking Bruce Wayne are the two most like iconic characters
of like the decade from like the entire Obama presidency
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is like defined by these two guys who are just
like what if we just like let the billionaires save
that they're obviously really smart and like Bruce Wayne, like
I don't know, he fucking inherited his money, but he's
also fucking sick. Like think about like how much karate
you can study if you don't have to like make money,
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you know, right, Just like.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Look at him fighting bad guys with all of his
gadgets that he can afford, and it's like if he
just redistributed his well, any of that, there wouldn't be
any bad guys to begin with.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeaeah. He is a billionaire who spends his money physically
attacking the poor and desperate Like that's what he does,
one at a time, just waiting for them to come
for the pie on his fucking porch, and then just
beat the shit out of them.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, so you can just like stand over a pile
of pears like say something cool and then disappeared to
the ship.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, what a creepy Yeah, there's I mean we talked
about this yesterday. That like how because she goes deep
into history, She's like, yeah, Barbara Streisand's character in the
Way We Were a movie that like I don't know
is that a classic Hollywood movie was an avowed Marxist
and The Godfather was a metaphor for America and capitalism.
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So like she's saying, like this has always been the
problem that Hollywood has like been sneaking in all this
like pro socialism, anti capitalism propaganda. It's like couldn't be
more the direct opposite, Like you have to go to
Barbara Streisand's character and the Way We Were to find
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like an avowed Marxist, whereas like everyone else is just
like openly an avowed capitalist, for whom everything always works
out in the end, like every every protagonist, like because
you know, you need Hollywood movies to work out for
the people like they are people who are exercising their
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like individualism to solve problems, like just completely in line
with the tenets of capitalism, that that is the entire
history of Hollywood. That the amount of work they're having
to do to claim this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
It's the same thing with like copaganda, where every so
often there will be a movie that comes out, like
a mainstream movie that's critical of the police, but by
and large, all like so many movies are look at
this hero cop doing hero things and saving the day,
and he's the good guy and the.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Bad guy is his supervisor, who's like, stop doing things
that are against the law. They're like, look at this
fucking stiff. Yeah, get off my back, man, I'm a rebel,
I'm a renegade.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Which is so beautifully illustrated a spoiler alert by the
end of Get Out, where like because then you realize, oh,
every movie, all so many movies end with oh, thank god,
the cops.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Are here, and you know what I mean. And then
it's oh Jesus, the cops are here.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yep, yeah, and like.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And those what it is is those are people, well
you know, Jordan Peel, those people are true artists who
are able to observe the human condition and see where
predatory capitalism and you know, authoritarian policing is bad for
people like, sorry, if you can't understand that writer for
the Wall Street Journal who obviously wrote Harold and Kumar,
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why are you quoting that piece of.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah to quote Ryan Reynolds and Harold and Kumar three?
But why what? What the fuck?
Speaker 3 (36:28):
No, that's a famous quote and a famous character that
we all remember.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And why the famous Yeah, maybe there's like an entire
different just uh, you know, pantheon of movie quotes among
conservatives like ah, yes, but why And they're like Reynolds,
good one, love it.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's also they've also been like like Jordan Peterson and
those people, they're very much in opposition to the reality
that stories carry morality with them, you know, in general.
So it's interesting they finally caught up to this idea
of like, wait, hold on a second, maybe this is
a metal well maybe this does speak to capitalism. Oh no, yeah,
it's like, yeah, that's often how artworks dork.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Like. They made me really like want to see some
movies by like shitting on them in this article. They're
like The Dreadful mountain Head has billionaires writing their net
worth on their chest like that. That movie actually like
has I think a very good depiction of like what
these billionaires are like. Like the Steve Carell character is
just the most insufferable piece of shit that I think
is like a great example of what all these people
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are like. Twenty eight years later, the latest sequel to
twenty eight days Later involves the aftermath of the rage
viruses escape from bioweapons bioweapons lab. I don't even know
how that. They don't even bothered connecting that to the
thesis they're just like. Twenty days later involves the aftermath
of a rage virus escape from That doesn't connect in
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any way, right, what the fuck is this article? You've
been talking about? The materialists betray anyone successful is shallow
as a puddle. Antis and Eddington are the bad guys.
So anyways, those are all movies that I guess could
be interesting to watch. So she also says that movies
about the free market depict the markets as corrupt and
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entrepreneurs as duficses, and two of the examples she picks,
the Wolf of Wall Street and The Social Network, are
true stories about corrupt stufses. So like, I don't know,
what do you what do you want us to do here?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
What I cannot with this pretty good movies though.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, I have a friend who saw Wolf of wall
Street and became a stockbroker. Wow, was like, oh dang,
ladies like that and cars like that. So it goes
to show like how how profoundly the message gets lost,
you know, especially that's whatever, this is a deeper or
a different issue. But that's kind of the problem with
satire sometimes is that like it still is you know,
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you still get high watching this exploitation in a way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I feel like Wolf of Wall Street was one of
the best things to happen to Crack ever, because it's
like it shows them smoking crack and having a lot
of fun, which is the first time it was depicted
as that in the history of like mainstream cinema. Yeah,
and the Ludes the Louds was pretty funny. Man.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That movie does make me wish, like lament that ludes
don't really exist anymore, because I'm like, ah, I feel
like they would really help me sleep.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think i'd have fun with the load, help you sleep,
and record albums like Rumors by Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I mean, think of art, you know, I know you
have to balance them out with the cocaine to get
ups up. To record rumors. But yeah, the yeah. The
wright has argued that they eat the rich. Genre has
gotten much worse in recent years thanks to movies like Parasite,
Knives Out, and The Menu. So they do have two
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examples that they think are like this is what movies
should be. Ghostbusters is one of them. Yes, I'm calling Ghostbusters,
she says, which is I think that's right. I think
Ghostbusters is a profoundly conservative movie. Like there's so many
like the They the Enemy is the epa.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
APA, Yeah, yes, super bizarre.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Also, you watch it when you're older and you're like, man,
if you're like Bill Murray's funny, and then later you're like,
oh no, he's an He's an awful creep.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Such an asshole, disgustin creep.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
But then the other example that uses the Founder, which
have you seen the movie The Founder? Yeah? Completely, is
that the the.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Michael Keaton Yeah, oh McDonald ross. Yeah, he steals McDonald's
from the McDonald's from the Sweet brothers who like first
made it. And she like, I don't know if they
just like didn't watch to the end of it. Add
to the Founder and Ray Kroc is what she says,
which is all about how McDonald's was like a nice
restaurant and then this like psycho comes along and kicks
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the founders out, and like it's not exactly like a
subtle critique, but she's somehow like this is one that
shows how cool it is.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's also like he gets he gets rich, and then
and then divorces his long suffering wife too, and then
Mary's that, you know what I mean. So apparently this
lady was like, oh, nice upgrade.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Swish this guy fucking and he did it didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Wow? Wait is this the same article where the writer
is like.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Movies like movies love socialism. Yeah, so they're saying, like
all movies are obsessed with socialism. The Godfather is too critical,
it makes capitalism look too bad, and therefore it's socialist.
The only two good movies are Ghostbusters and the Founder.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Oh okay, I thought they were saying that, like Parasite
and Knives Out is how movies should be, because those.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Are always very stark. You think Parasite is very bad.
But they also somehow did like they're so desperate. I
don't know, they must not have seen Iron Man or
bad Man because they're so desperate to like come up
with a movie that's about how capitalism is good, that
they that they resort to the founder, which is like
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definitely a cautionary tale, right, definitely, just like this guy's
too ambitious and he like fucking loses his mind and
is a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
And also like at any point you're like, wait, hold
on now, if I'm associating with those in power and
I'm disliking art, yeah, a little bit put me on
the side of fascism. Just I just historically I think
that's generally the case. Yeah, movie speaks you know what
I mean, speak to like the gentle human heart and
the challenges around being a person, especially in capitalism.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
You know. Yeah, that's called propaganda more pro person anti
corporate propaganda. Yeah, well propaganda sick is what it is.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, like to Kill a Mockingbird and trash like that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Like truly, that's like that. That's where it's like Pargrisite,
which was just ranked the number one movie in the
twenty first century, so critical and it's like, oh, poor people,
shut the fuck up. Anyways, this is it is kind
of fun to you know, the right is always like
(43:13):
you guys have Trump derangement syndrome, Like this is they
they and the mainstream Democratic Party all have like Zor
and Mamdani derangement syndrome, and they're just like can't deal
and are coming up with the wildest fucking explanations for
how these very popular policies that everybody's been like these
(43:33):
would be very popular policies if anybody did them, how
they could possibly be popular? And this is where they're at.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Because Drastic World Rebirth it must be.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, yeah, of course, every right, the movie that's influencing
all of us. I am in support, of course, though,
of politicians having having to prove their physical strength through
like bench presses in the Senate and stuff, unless you
are strong, in which case you have to do a
crossword puzzle.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Your opponent gets to decide which one.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yep, yeah, because otherwise we're just gonna add it with
Terry Cruise for mediocracy with them, which is what they want,
a bustle like a bunch of muscle man.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
That's right, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll
come back, we'll talk about AI kittens. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And you know, as creators of content
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online content, sometimes it's good for us to just take
a step back and look at what the competition is
doing out there. You know what, what are we competing with?
And it's viral kittens. That's that's what we're losing too
right now. People these videos. Have you seen these videos?
(44:57):
They're like kind of slide shows. Usually it's a series
of images of very fat kittens or cats, sometimes falling
out of the plane or a boat, or landing on
a remote island, or just like getting bullied getting divorced.
One that I watched, the kitten was getting an ass
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on his test, getting yelled at by his cat dad
no way, but then studying getting an a getting divorced
Kramer versus Kramer style like dramas. Yeah, so it's this
weird thing that they So the way these videos are
made is essentially just people putting prompts into AI NonStop.
(45:43):
I can't tell if they're like, Okay, give me like
twenty different scenarios of these like kidden videos, or if
like each one they're like give me a kitten failing
at test, or you know, like I think it's more
like give me thirty different of like things happen to
a cat that is cute and chubby and orange and
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then the AI takes over, and the thing that they've discovered,
apparently is the cheat code is just making like really
sad things happen to the kittens, and like then the
kittens just like sobbing and looking really sad. It is
like pretty affecting. I will say, like the you don't
(46:27):
want to see bad things happen to these kittens because
they're pretty cute.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Right, well, it appeals to our emotional response, something that
AI will never understand. But yeah, it but just through
sheer guess and check right exactly. Yeah, they don't know
why these things would be appealing to human emotions, but no, yeah,
(46:52):
it's uh, that is horrible, especially because it's like probably
drying up a well every time you search for like
a cat getting divorced.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah yeah, literally like causing actual children to sob in
some place. And so I just want to read this
quote from one of the creators. Despite the inconsistencies and
occasional hallucinations of the AI generators, and you do like
the cats like don't look the same from image damage.
They will be like slightly different, but you can like
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tell that they're supposed to be the same thing, he says.
The cat stories remain compelling because of how quote devastating
they are. I just love that I can invest in
these characters while everything else is so goofy. It seems
like it would not be emotional the way you can
create anything that looks like this, but it's successful. Sometimes
the contrast is great. A good cat one of the
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creators A good cat video is one is one with
a tragic ending, a devastating one. The reason is firstly
because I wanted to amuse myself to put the cats
in crazy situations. I also saw that sad videos generate
more engagement because they elicit the compassion of viewers, which
spoken like a true robot.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
I mean, okay, I have so many thoughts about this one,
speaking as a fan of cat videos real cats, obviously,
I don't want to see them distraught. I want to
see them being cute and having a nice little kit
in time, and just the idea that they have to
like artificially generate sad imagery to compel people and appeal
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to their emotions, like just look at what's happening in
the world exactly and raw, and like, you know, harness
compassion from that and utilize it to affect change for
the good, like what.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
It's the that is by design. I think it's like
this severe, this surreal version of reality where we're all
like cordoned off from one another so that we don't
feel genuine human contact with other people and genuine human
emotions for other people because thosetions like that human contact
is not monetizable, you know, like feeling feeling bad for
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people who are being victimized by capitalism is actually the
opposite of like profitable, right, so they want they want
to keep us away from that, and instead they like
cordin us off in these little like media delivery cells
where we're just these emotions that we should be feeling
(49:28):
that are like natural to feel, like, you know, sadness
and sympathy and empathy like those are being like artificially
expressed from us, like an industrial milker that's like mimicking
the mouth of a calf. You know. They're just like
extracting the emotions from us artificially, and we're often our
(49:49):
like little hyperbaric emotion chambers just being fed ai slop
that like makes us feel sad while not feeling sad
about the thing we should feel sad about are other
people and the fact that we're like wasting our lives
ignoring each other.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Right if I mean, like if if enough people could
unite under caring about Israel starving Gaza, for example, and
it's like, but now we have to consume AI cats
question cats.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I also like, you know, look, I live for a
video where a duck becomes friends with a donkey. I can't.
I will spend you know, most of my door watching
stuff like that. But it's also it's because that's not
supposed to happen. Or if it's AI, then it's clear,
it's clearly generated. It's not going to make me feel
that those emotions. But I wonder if the same way that,
like in the Superman movie, there's AI that I find,
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like the dog is pretty computer generated, which is unnecessary.
Just like the dog, I like a dog actor, I
don't need it, like to see his fake mouth like upturned,
you know what I mean. I wonder if for younger
people who.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Give like a like a knowing smile at one point.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
Yeah, there's kind of a lot of that, like he's
you know, where he's like, oh you can't believe something,
you know, his eyes get big or whatever. Yeah, So
maybe that's why people are just more used, more used
to AI and it feels more natural because to me,
it always feels like it's still I know where it's
gonna keep getting better and better, but not yet for me,
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still looks.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
That un Kenny Valley is still yeah, very much there.
But I do I I wonder if there's something to
that that like a whole generation of people who grew
up on CGI in media and then they're like, yeah,
that's just yeah, I can be emotionally affected by that totally.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
And then they see AI generated imagery and they're like, yeah,
that just looks like the cartoons and I want or whatever,
like the superhero movies that I've seen.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know they're
like that. I get those like profound, like deep kind
of sadness whenever I see like a family, like when
I'm traveling and I see like a whole family where
like the parents are all on their phones and the
kids are like on there, everybody's like ignoring each other
just on their phones. Like I don't it's just and
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then when I noticed my family doing it, I have
to like go watch my cat videos or else I
get really sad because that's.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, get on your phone and alongside your other your
other family members on their phones.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Let's have a realization, Jack, No, don't don't do that. Yeah, yeah,
but have a realization about how sad it is that.
Let me see what this cat's name is. I think
they call it like Chubby's or something, Chubbers. Yeah, the
unstoppable Rise of Chubby. Why TikTok's AI generated cat could
(52:50):
be the future of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
So I miss this part of the story. Are these
like these are like viral? These are very popular?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yes, okay, so they they ran There was a h
the Shrimp Jesus study from early twenty twenty four. Do
you know about the shrimp Jesus were like, no, it's
just they looked into their like there's suddenly this flood
of AI slop all over the Internet. Where's it coming from?
(53:17):
And they found it was like being generated by like
these AI like people who are using AI to just
be like, give me a hundred different like image series
of like and one of them was Jesus's head on
the body of a shrimp and like a bunch of
like crabs like worshiping him. And but yes, one of
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the ten most viewed posts in one of the quarters
that they were looking at, Like Q two of twenty
twenty three on Facebook was an unlabeled AI generated image
from a page that used to be like a cooking page,
like somebody who liked to cook and had a lot
of followers.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Not kidding, I like it when other people like.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
But they then transitioned it into just showing AI generated
images of kitchens, you know, because that's how you you
can just it's this weird thing where it's just people
out there just like generating like an unending stream of
these posts onto like various channels that used to have
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actual people behind them and are now So it's like
the AI is like on one side of it generating
images that are like designed to try to fool the
AI algorithms on the other side into like sending them
out to a bunch of people. And then yeah, so
you're just like again fully isolated from any human contact,
(54:46):
just being like on one end of this massive like
transactional thing that is burning a bunch of forests, but
burning a bunch of forests like far away from where
we are.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Right and also making all of southern Georgia smell like
gas fumes, right, that's that's trade off.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah. Well, Kaitlin Doranta, is such a pleasure having you
on the daily Zeikeist as always. Uh, where can people
find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
You can find me on Instagram if you must. At
Caitlin Durante. What I would like to plug is the
Bechdel Cast Midwest Tour. Uh, we're covering the Star Wars prequels.
As we've discussed, We're going to Indianapolis. Our show there
(55:37):
is August thirtieth, so coming up Chicago August thirty first, Madison,
Wisconsin September fourth, and Minneapolis September seventh. So Zeke Gang
come through. Please, we would love to see you. We
would love to have you. You can grab tickets at
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link Tree, slash Bachtel car Past and.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
That sounds great. And you're gonna be going over every
prequel in every show.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Exactly, so each show will be all three prequels. And
why did we do that to ourselves? I don't know,
but it's too late now.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
And you to see the Kaitlin Durante cut down of
the prequels, much like the toe for Grades one.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, well how long was his?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
His is like eighty something minutes.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Okay, well I did well. I mean, mine's a recap,
so it's I'm really leaving some stuff out. But yeah,
I recapped in video format each of the three movies.
Each video recap is like five minutes or less. So
I really really did some cutting.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
That sounds really fun. I can't wait to watch.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
So there will be those videos. There's all kinds of
other fun segments during the show. There's gonna be a
classic Bechdel Cast discourse, you know, lots of lots of
good stuff. And then I also just want to shout
out Slash promote Slash, encourage people to donate to the
Global Samood Flotilla. I don't know if I said that right,
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but it's the flotilla that is leaving from Spain and
Tonisia I think, and then in the coming days and
sailing to Gaza to provide aid and try to stop
the siege.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
So Global.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yes dot org is where you can learn more about
it and donate. So just want to shout that out.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Hell yeah, nice. Is there a work of media that
you've been enjoying? No, okay, more, where can people find you?
Is there a work of media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
Yeah at more Burke on all the socials as a
nineties kid.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
I'm loving where hip hop is right now. So the
new Clips album, the nw JID album, obviously g n X,
and a guy that I know, brother Ali, has a
great record called Satisfied Soul out a couple of months ago,
but I'm still enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah open. Mike Eagle also has a new album out
that's really good.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Where he says mercury and Gatorade.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
Oh really, yeah, Yeah, that's great all right. You can
find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian on
Blue Sky at Jack Obi and the number one uh
work media I've been enjoying is a Nogarfuncle just reposted
a picture of John Bolton and Cash Patel and tweeted
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two of the most Guess who faces out? You really
couldn't look more more like Guess who cares?
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Bolton especially is straight off the Guess Who board. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
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Speaker 4 (59:12):
Yeah, this track is something I would describe as like
very spacey, deeply meditative. The sound design is very impressive.
The vocals are hypnotic, the falsettos are smooth. It's just
a nice little vacation of a song. This is called
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That's b O. S c O.
Speaker 4 (59:32):
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Footnotes. Is Bosco the name of like a chocolate serra
is a Bosco? I do not know Bosco syrups. Yeah,
well it's a type of chocolate syrup. But I remember
from like a maybe yes reference in Seinfeld.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
I don't know anyways, Well, this is rich and smooth
like chocolate syrup.
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What are his feelings on the prequels.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
He hated them. I'm pretty sure we walked out of
one of them.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I didn't see the third one for a long time.
The second one kind of put me off. It had
like a good scene the second one, but then it
also had some of the worst scenes like in the
history of the movie kind of strong where it opens
really strong that.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It was like a chase through the city.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The chase is fucking dope, where he like jumps out
of the thing and like uses his force powers to
just like know that he's going to time it perfectly
to like land on their thing as cool as hell. Yeah,
and then like in the middle, it's like him being like,
but I love you, and.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Like just he's like such a drama queen.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
He was like nine years old or whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, and he's like five years younger than her. I
think she he's like supposed to be even younger than
the actor is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, as far as the characters, I mean they meet
when he's like seven and she's a full adult.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well she's Natalie Portman. Yeah, it's is younger than Macaulay
Culkin and home alone when they meet and she is
Natalie full Natalie.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Portaletman Natalie, and when he is I guess an adult,
but like it is, it's the there's it's a very
creepy dynamic.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's just like she knew him when he was five,
she was an adult.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Still creepy, Anakin, you look so different now you've grown.
You've grown, Annakin, and you have grown more beautiful than
the last time I saw you. Even energy, Yes, shut off.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But you you remember that scene quite well because it
is basically verbatim what the dialogue.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You watch it twenty times later.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I do watch it a lot. Hello the Internet, and
welcome to season four oh three, episode three of Dear
Daily Zaigeist. It's a production by Heart Radio. It's a
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And it is Wednesday, August twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.
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A happy anniversary to my parents. Oh. First of all,
the forty nine two can be freaking fifty next year.
They got married on the bi centennial because they're super
patriot now just I think accidentally. Anyways, my name's Jack
O'Brien aka Milky Thighs. They're so caked up you won't
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recognize I've got milky thighs. Don't worry, that's just wood.
That one courtesy of Bottles and Fans on the Discord
in reference to my cad up thick milky thighs. Thrilled
to be joined in our second sea by a very
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funny comedian, actor, writer improviser who special Spiritually Filthy is
out now on YouTube. Go check it out. It's more
burn hell Friends. Thanks Jack, he's like to be here.
I am.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I met Jack for the first time yesterday. And if
you think you think he's hot on camera, wait until
Zach is seven foot four in person.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I am seven foot four, which is then not hot.
That's actually troubling. That's very People are very scared of me.
I'm out in the size of shack in person.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah. Yeah, you're one shack tall, so I measure people.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, percentages of a shack, Yeah you get it. Yeah.
And you a very striking man in person. And they're
very well dressed, fashionable, a great button up, short sleeve shirt. Yeah,
this sort of thing I never can pull off, but
I'm always admiring the people who do. I feel like
it's like a one of those like shirts that you
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find somewhere you know, it's not just like a thing
you buy at a store. You'd have to go find
it or something.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
This really good, this great. That sure came from a
great friend of my friend, my friend Miranda Perry, who
they are a super funny, talented comedian. They happen to
be a lesbian, and they and I dress exactly the same.
I like they have killer styles. So Miranda is always
giving me the amazing these amazing shirts that I've never
received from a straight man ever, Like it's so solid.
(04:39):
That's great, a friend who's wardrobe you can share, it's
the tops.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, we're thrilled to be joined in air third seat
by one of our very favorite guests, very talented writer,
stand up comedian and co host of The Bechdel Cast,
one of the great film podcasts. Two great film podcasters,
two days in a row. That were you know, three,
we had two on yesterday. I can't do math. They
also happen to have a master's degree in film and
(05:06):
the most anagrammable name in the English language, So if
you've been given their name as a jumble of out
of order scrabble tiles, you may know them as Lauren d.
Titanic nine tit Dracula, but to us, they will always
be Kaitlin Duronte.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Anyone is anyone going to talk about how hot I am?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What's Kaylin? Yeah, when we meet in person, I'll talk
about it to the point that it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
One and a half shacks, also a half shacks, incredible,
so hot.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You can't sit on an airplane.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Caitlin, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I'm fine. I'm gearing up for the Bechdel Cast Midwest
tour where we're covering the Star Wars prequels.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You are wearing a six Star Wars t shirt right now,
and you Yeah, we were talking, You're you're going prequels,
You're you're diving in. We were talking yesterday about something
I've noticed that I'm still trying to figure out how
I feel about this. That like my like young nephews
who are like ten and eleven or ten and twelve
(06:20):
are obsessed with The Simpsons, but they're like obsessed with
the last like the past five seasons, Like they won't
even like go back into the archive to like bother
watching the classic ones. And you will be talking about
the Star Wars prequels, which in like younger generations are
just kind of viewed as, Yeah, they're like also good. Yeah,
(06:42):
they're also good. Like the Star Wars the other Star
Wars is they're made by the same guy, you know,
so like they're.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Pretty same characters. Yeah, therefore good.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, they're like in their mind, jar Jar and Yoda
pretty much the same.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, they're both green, they both talk funny. Nothing wrong
in either case. But you are not full prequel pilled
like like some of our younger listeners might be.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I really am not. I grew up on the original
trilogy and it's not like those movies are perfect. But
oh boy, disparity and quality between them and the prequels
is large. And but I mean, I mean, I'm very
excited for our shows. They're gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think they're gonna be so great.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I've edited a lot of videos, we have a lot
of presentations. I'm gonna wear a Sith costume. It's a
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
A Sith costume, being Darth small mostly just net well
and spikes, spikes.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That I would really have my work cut out for me. No,
I'm just gonna wear like black robes that you should.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Spend whatever it costs to get an actual functioning lightsaber
that kid likes cut a car in half. I'm talking
to sink like a harder grand into it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I you know it would I have no like weapons
at my house, so I'm like, maybe you know I
need a weapon in case I have to kill someone
home intruder.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know, yeah, you need a saber. You need a
lights I need a lightsaber for that.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There's no like, what's the best way to do that?
Would that be a blow torch or like a welding,
like one of those welding things, but just like a
little bit more powerful. I don't know, kids, I don't
know there any of our younger listeners figure that out.
Do some experimentation and report.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Get a blowtorch, get a lighter.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Go try some different things. My issue with the prequels
is largely that the protagonist it turns out as Darth Vader.
What the fuck like that? I was rooting for that? No.
I the Anakin performances I think are lacking. Personally.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
The performance is all around, like, how can you put
Samuel L. Jackson in a movie? And he's so normally
so magnetic and interesting and fun to watch, and then
in these movies everyone is just delivering every line very monotone,
like yeah, just and I know it's probably like a
Jedi thing or whatever. There's nonical reason, but it sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sucks, like Natalie Portman has never been bad in anything else,
but in this what the fuck? Yeah, for some reason,
they're just like, I don't know, like act like you've
never even heard of acting, like you're not even familiar
with the concept kind of because this is like a
different planet, so they won't even have it true.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, there's no UCB.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, there's no there's no UCB in Star Wars, in
the Star Wars universe. Right, They've got jigz and that's it,
Like that's their only art form. Jizz is the name
of the music.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I'm not being gross, it's it's Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
A perfectly normal name for their music. Okay, type of music.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I look like I've tried to legally marry Star Wars,
but I did. I've never really watched it, Like I've
seen the first three and I think I saw one
of the prequels, but I just was never So I'm
gonna ask a question, what's the name of the little
guy who is who's a round job of the hut.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh, salacious bat crumb.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You mean I took I did take a UCB class
with him.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That little guy.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, that's that was a very long walk for that joke.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
What's his name?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, I took a yeah, I took Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Great names though the guy cannot be topped in terms
of names. I mean is called job boo frick. Yeah,
that's what. He did have a slight misstep with naming
jazz music in the Star Wars universe jizz, because I
guess that's not a word that people were using a
lot around George Lucas in the seventies. Anyways, Caitlin, we're
(10:59):
thrilled to have you here. As always, we're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things. We're
talking about the world. The mainstream media world continues to
try to make sense of the rise of Zora Mumdani.
They've resorted to a very strange thesis having to do
(11:19):
with movies, which which is appropriate because we have Caitlin
here specifically that people voted for zorin Mumdani, because because
movies four years have been telling people that capitalism is
evil and rich people are evil, and that socialism is good.
(11:43):
And I want to examine that thesis with you guys,
based on just I don't know, every movie that's ever held.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
This article is suggesting that people have had enough of
the woke media.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I think they're saying point yeah. I think what they're
saying is that people are being brainwashed by the woke
movies that tell them that rich people are evil, and
that's why they voted. That's the only possible explanation for
why anybody would vote for Zormumdani. To be honest with you,
I can't come up with anything else. We'll talk about that.
(12:19):
We'll talk about we will talk about viral AI kitten
videos that are being just generated. Right now, Like since
I started the sentence, five hundred viral AI kitten videos
have been created and posted to the Internet. We'll talk
about what that's doing to our soul. Is good spoiler alert,
(12:41):
It's very.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Good all kitten videos, regardless of their AI generated or not.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But yeah, yeah, but if you can burn down a
forest in the process of making these videos that are
already good, like why not?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Why not do that?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
All of that plenty more, But first, Caitlin, we do
like to ask, guessed, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well to keep talking about the Star Wars prequels, because
I need to just plug the stars as much as possible.
But I did search for this, and I'll tell you
why I searched for Palpatine's lightsaber color because I have
been brainstorming a list of possible like drinks beverages for
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the venues that we're performing at to like kind of
create a special drinks menu for our show. And so
I was like, oh, a Palpatini and it should be
read because of Palpatines lightsaber color being red. And then here,
let me just pull up the list of other drinks
(13:53):
I've crafted, you know, listeners and Jack and Moore, you're
welcome to riff on this as well. Let's see the
qui gon gin and tonic, I mean unbeautaful that's beautiful,
A Darth vodka and cranberry.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Or any vodka dark Father. So that actually worked, does it? Really?
Okays Vader? That's a like apocryphal thing people were like,
and actually everybody would have known that his name that
he was actually looks father. If you knew the German
translated to dark father, and then you actually look it
up and it like doesn't mean ship, it doesn't translate,
(14:37):
just like.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, that just I think that's a joke from like
Pitch Perfect, where Anna Kendrick is like Vader means father
in German. So obviously, but the important thing here also
is that the vodka that should be used should be
Anakin sky Walker vodka.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Now we're having fun. And then of course there's also
and then this is where things get a little bad
obi one Canoe beer.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And I'm sorry, did you say this is where things
get brilliant? Perfect? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Sorry I misspoke. And then finally, mace.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wine Do wine do? Sounds like it's I'm going to
get some mountain dew in there? Do I is a
mixture of wine and mountain.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Wine plus a Cabernet sevignon plus mountain dew. Actually that
sounds kind of good.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I'm in I have seventeen years sober. I will relapse
on that if you make.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It please Yeah, sorry, but.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is it relapsing if you just injected directly into my veins?
But it doesn't like I don't have to drink it.
It just goes right into my veins. That's probably fine, right, Yeah,
those are great and are do you do you think
that you're going to get cooperation from the venues? I hope.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I emailed all of them and said, like, here's
my brilliant menu, do with it what you will, and
if they don't do it, that's their loss. They're they're
they're losing out on millions of dollars that they would
have generated at our show.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, untold millions. Part of my ignorance. But I did
have to look up Palpatine. I can't believe his name's not.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Jiz He he looks ye see all right, he's not
doing he's not doing great now.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
He seems bad. All the people, all the forced people
seem bad, like you would think that all the power
they're like, this is the best feeling. It feels so good,
and they're just like dying like the whole time. They
just look like absolute shit, which does seem to also
be what happens to people who just embrace conservative politics,
(16:48):
Like they look like shit, but they also live forever.
They also have force lightning powers. They have finger lightning
that comes out of their fingers.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, they should, they should call whatever disease band and
Steve Bannon has the palpatine.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, he's got some. He's palpatine in big time.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, well your skin melts and you never die.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Guy's been drinking a couple of palpatinis. But we'll look
at us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I think using flash on your phone to take pictures
is underrated. No one does it anymore. Yeah, as soon
as we got rid of digital cameras, everyone's just taking
pictures on their phones, but no one uses flash, and
the photos all look like shit if you're in like
a dark like no, I was going back through all
my photos on my phone and half of them look
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terrible because the lighting sucks because no one used flash.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And you're taking pictures during a movie what like? Yeah,
of you and your friends just to be fair, and
you've decided to start just using flash. Yeah, I think
that's that's a lost art. I'd say, thank you. Yeah, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I totally agree with that absolutely, And I can't I
can't find it on my phone again because I have
the technical knowledge of a four and a half year old.
But if you want to walk me through that maybe
after the episode, that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh, happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Like, I'll hack into your phone make it possible for
you to use flash. What is something you think overrated?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Caitlin h the idea that everyone should know how to cook,
because I don't know how to cook and I and
I still eat three square meals a day and I'm
doing fine, and but I have people being like, you're
not cooking for yourself, grow up a big baby, And
(18:42):
I'm like, what's the difference.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
These people get the people out of your life? They're
so mean.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I truly do. But yeah, I mean, I can scramble
an egg whatever. I can make very simple things. Obviously
I can boil pasta. But I don't like cooking brings
me no joy, Therefore why would I do it? Eating
brings me a lot of joy, and I love eating
good food that other people who know how to make
food have made. But I'm just never going to be
(19:10):
good at cooking. I've tried many times. I'm very bad
at it. Again, it brings me no joy. So why
would I do something that makes me feel awful and
stresses me out? And that I'm not good at when
you could just.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Bad your neighborhood, like smell a good delicious smelling smell
off your feet over to a pie cooling on a
windowsill and stealing exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Just float around, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Float around. Yeah. The only problem with not cooking is
like ordering food, which if you're good at that, I
suck at ordering food. I feel like I just like
don't want to do the research. This is too confusing.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well, let me teach you about that, because I'm great
at it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
What are you using to evaluate your restaurant options? I.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Uh, trial and error. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
but if I figured out the good ones, then I
just ordered from them.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Again, it feels like it's a lot more clicks than
it used to be to get to the menu, though
I do find myself like it feels like a weird
maze sometimes. Also, I'll say, in reaction to what Jack said,
I think if any of us like I am, are
sort of missing the world of the hobo. I think
where nobody's putting enough hot pies on their windowsills. I
think if we want to bring the community, you know,
(20:29):
that's that's how you catch, that's how you revisit the
romance of.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
The past they were I feel like that was Yeah,
why did Why did they need it too cool on
the windowsill? Like why can't it just cool in the kitchen?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The kitchen's hot because there's no a c right.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, you get the cool breeze going. And secretly they
wanted more hoboes around hobos.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It was a hobo trap. Yeah. Yeah. Do you speaking
of hoboes, do you ever just have a nice can
of beans that you're eating out of the can? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And you can never win fire track campfire, and you can.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Never pull the lid all the way off. It has
to be halfway up.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Just like the hat on top of your head. It
has to be halfway off, just like sticking up like
a half half used can opener. Have you guys seen
Oh I already asked you this more, Caitlin, have you
seen weapons?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I have? Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I feel like that kid should have been better using
can openers personally.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, well, I wonder if that was a reference. Do
you remember that like video that went viral a few
maybe like a year ago, where it was like a
shitty dad being like, hey, kid, here's a can opener.
Figure out how to use it, and you can't have
whatever's inside until you do. And the kid like struggled
for like eight hours or something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh do you remember this? Maybe they were right, Maybe
weapons is right. It would be hard.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
To use if you don't already know. Yeah, you're child,
you're not used to using tools. Yeah, it probably would
be difficult. And so the whole thing was like the
dad was like, I'm teaching my kid like self reliance,
and it's like, no, you're just being a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You can easily just bean dead or that was different.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't know. I don't know the names of any of.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
These, Like you don't know the names of the viral stars,
like bean dead. There was a yeah, bean dead. I
think might be the guy who was was like, yeah,
you figure it out on your own. The kid's like,
I'm fucking starving, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
This also speaks to the lack of hobos. If if
there were more hope, he could just hobble teach a
kid how to open a close can with one old tooth, like.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Bite into it.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, here you go.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yes, forcing his then nine year old daughter to open
a can of beans for six hours without food. What
The story sparked a massive public outcry, and then he
later issued an apology, being like the thing that I
was so proud of that I posted it on social media.
In retrospect, I now recognize that was an l for me,
(23:08):
and I'm a bad dad.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Big Oh this happened in twenty twenty one. That was
way longer ago than I thought.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We should figure out how to get prevent people from
having children who hate children, right, you know, like there's
so much this behavior where I'm like, yeah, you just
enjoyed being me, Like all the people were like no
participation trophies. You're like, I think maybe you just hate
it when children are happy.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it's like dog tooth parenting, where like people who
it's not it might not be that they hate kids,
but they're like, having this kid is my opportunity to
run a really fun experiment. Oh yeah. On, Like there
was a parent who like taught their child cling on
as like their first language and like only expose them
(23:50):
to cling on for like the first handful of years
of their life.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
There's a great video of these two like hyper in
these steampunk parents, but they're like really, you know, their
whole life is stam steampunk and then they interview the
kid and the kid is like, yeah, I don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It fucking sucks. It not a.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Fan umbrella made of gears for no reason.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
All right, fuck cooking, let's uh, let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back. And we're back and
(24:40):
the one you know there, there hasn't been a lot
of people willing to come out and like buck the
big mainstream market based economy, corporate, mainstream media, just the
way things operate. Zoramm Danni is like one person who
(25:01):
had some public success, like got in front of a
lot of people with these ideas that are very different
than the ideas that are being presented by every other politician.
Those ideas resonated. He had unexpected astounding success. And now
for the mainstream media to be like, whoa, what the
fuck just happened? And because they're not able to even
(25:27):
like bring in the ideas of socialism that were common
like in the early twentieth century, they have to like
come up with weird conspiracy theories for why it was popular.
I do just want to in terms of the state
of the race, Zuramumdani is doing like fun little things
(25:50):
like he did a citywide scavenger hunt, which was enjoyed
by thousands of people, who you know, if you succeeded
the scavenger hunt a cup of chry tea at the
finish line. Eric Adams responded to that by saying that
mom Donnie is trying to turn our city into the
Squid Games. You know, the show where happy families compete
(26:13):
for a tea on a sunny afternoon. Yeah yeah, he said,
Ask the people worried about making rent if they thought
it was worth it, Mom Donnie is trying to turn
our city into the Squid Games. Guy fucking rules Cuomo
similarly tried to criticize him for like, just like it
(26:35):
sounds like he's like a student council you know, running
for student council president, and just like Madge that the
fun kid is like beating him. He was like, defund
the police, but great scavenger hunts. No class, free pizza
for all singers was what he wrote on social media,
(26:56):
being like yeah right, this guy's not serious. And then
also there was I don't I don't even understand why
this happened, but Zora, Mom Donnie like was asked to
bench press his own weight and he did that for
some reason, and he failed to do it, and they
were all over that. They just anything to like make
it about anything else, you know, Cuomo and Adams are
(27:20):
like more like Mom scrawny. Literally, that's what they said.
But so getting back to trying to explain, like, how's
this guy popular? He does fun stuff, but he can't
even lift, like bench press his own weight.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
What is this these guys can like, what are they
talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, Probably the most baffling anti Mom Donnie take is
from The Wall Street Journal, which published an op ed
blaming his popularity on Jurassic Park and Superman specifically. The
op ed argued that there's absolutely no explanation for why
New Yorkers wouldn't race a candidate who's running on a
platform of affordable housing, free childcare, expanding healthcare, and generally
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standing up to corporations who are fucking everybody over all
the time, unless, of course, the reason for that success
is because it's socialism is glorified in movies. They also say.
They quote Ryan Reynolds's character in the two thousand and
four movie Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
He that character, he is my great spiritual teacher that
Ryan Reynolds Harol Kumar.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, they but so they say, it seems like you're
going to get like some sort of philosophical idea from this,
and instead they just quote him to say, but why.
As Ryan Reynolds character in the two thousand and four
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle asks but why,
A lot of people say, but why you saying they
do invoke that character to say but why, and then
(28:56):
the next question sentence. One answer is that social is
glorified in movies. Multimillion dollar movies made by massive corporations,
always glorifying socialism. The movies that they point to are
Jurassic World Rebirth, which the characters want to keep a
miracle drug out of the hands of a pharma bro billionaire.
(29:17):
I just want to read how they described this guy
before explaining further who this character is. Look no further
than this summer's Jurassic World Rebirth. Pharmaceutical executive Martin Kreb's
ruper Frent risks his life and capital to develop a
heart drug, Paleodiaxon, that will extend human life by twenty years,
and he's the bad guy. That character also pulls a
(29:42):
fucking gun on children in the Okay, he's the bad
guy just because he fucking pulled a gun on a
child in movie called Getting Things Done.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It also sounds like they kind of lost the plot
he had been inventing a medicine to turn people into dinosaurs.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, I guess you. So this is the This is
the thing that I love when they did this in
Avatar to Avatar too, where like they're just like, oh yeah,
and like this the aliens have the cured to death
like hidden inside them, so everybody got killed the aliens.
(30:23):
But also like Jurassic Park movies, like the villain is
always capitalism, Like the first Jurassic Park movie, it's like
the the issue is that the John Hammond is like
trying to open the park too quickly without like testing
everything because he's like greedy and wanting to like make money.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And the lawyer is like, oh, who cares about the
park safety. We'll make millions off this place.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, and then that guy gets eaten on a toilet.
Not fair.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So this these theories are suggesting that the movies basically
not that they necessarily invented socialism, but they're promoting this
idea of they're promoting before, like anyone else had the
idea to support socialism. And then because these the audiences
(31:16):
are watching these movies now, they are being brainwashed into thinking.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's not the tightest thesis, really bad the evidence. They're
really just going all over the place. They're like a
palaeontologists worried about high drug prices, says, sciences for all
of us, not some of us. Wait, where have I
heard that? Oh yeah, here's socialist Bernie Sanders last year.
We need an economy that works for all of us,
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not just the billionaire class. A shocking thing to say.
They also make fun of Superman, in which the villain
is a rich guy who looks like Jeff Bezos. Just
worth noting that villain was created in nineteen forty and
has looked like Jeff Bezos the whole time. Hmmm, and
has been a rich guy the whole time. Watch or
(32:04):
don't watch this summer Superman retread, which features Lex Luthor
again as a corrompti billionaire Hollywood knows no other kind,
threatening truth, justice and the American way, and he looks
like Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos became a billionaire and shaved
his head like Lex Luthor that's not our phone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I love the point of like who's defending the billionaires
with integrity? What about them?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Also, Hollywood has always had like Hollywood is just full
of billionaire like pro billionaire propaganda, Like Tony Stark and
fucking Bruce Wayne are the two most like iconic characters
of like the decade from like the entire Obama presidency
(32:52):
is like defined by these two guys who are just
like what if we just like let the billionaires save
that they're obviously really smart and like Bruce Wayne, like
I don't know, he fucking inherited his money, but he's
also fucking sick. Like think about like how much karate
you can study if you don't have to like make money,
(33:12):
you know, right, Just like.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Look at him fighting bad guys with all of his
gadgets that he can afford, and it's like if he
just redistributed his well, any of that, there wouldn't be
any bad guys to begin with.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeaeah. He is a billionaire who spends his money physically
attacking the poor and desperate Like that's what he does,
one at a time, just waiting for them to come
for the pie on his fucking porch, and then just
beat the shit out of them.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, so you can just like stand over a pile
of pears like say something cool and then disappeared to
the ship.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, what a creepy Yeah, there's I mean we talked
about this yesterday. That like how because she goes deep
into history, She's like, yeah, Barbara Streisand's character in the
Way We Were a movie that like I don't know
is that a classic Hollywood movie was an avowed Marxist
and The Godfather was a metaphor for America and capitalism.
(34:09):
So like she's saying, like this has always been the
problem that Hollywood has like been sneaking in all this
like pro socialism, anti capitalism propaganda. It's like couldn't be
more the direct opposite, Like you have to go to
Barbara Streisand's character and the Way We Were to find
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like an avowed Marxist, whereas like everyone else is just
like openly an avowed capitalist, for whom everything always works
out in the end, like every every protagonist, like because
you know, you need Hollywood movies to work out for
the people like they are people who are exercising their
(34:50):
like individualism to solve problems, like just completely in line
with the tenets of capitalism, that that is the entire
history of Hollywood. That the amount of work they're having
to do to claim this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
It's the same thing with like copaganda, where every so
often there will be a movie that comes out, like
a mainstream movie that's critical of the police, but by
and large, all like so many movies are look at
this hero cop doing hero things and saving the day,
and he's the good guy and the.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Bad guy is his supervisor, who's like, stop doing things
that are against the law. They're like, look at this
fucking stiff. Yeah, get off my back, man, I'm a rebel,
I'm a renegade.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Which is so beautifully illustrated a spoiler alert by the
end of Get Out, where like because then you realize, oh,
every movie, all so many movies end with oh, thank god,
the cops.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Are here, and you know what I mean. And then
it's oh Jesus, the cops are here.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yep, yeah, and like.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And those what it is is those are people, well
you know, Jordan Peel, those people are true artists who
are able to observe the human condition and see where
predatory capitalism and you know, authoritarian policing is bad for
people like, sorry, if you can't understand that writer for
the Wall Street Journal who obviously wrote Harold and Kumar,
(36:19):
why are you quoting that piece of.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah to quote Ryan Reynolds and Harold and Kumar three?
But why what? What the fuck?
Speaker 3 (36:28):
No, that's a famous quote and a famous character that
we all remember.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And why the famous Yeah, maybe there's like an entire
different just uh, you know, pantheon of movie quotes among
conservatives like ah, yes, but why And they're like Reynolds,
good one, love it.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's also they've also been like like Jordan Peterson and
those people, they're very much in opposition to the reality
that stories carry morality with them, you know, in general.
So it's interesting they finally caught up to this idea
of like, wait, hold on a second, maybe this is
a metal well maybe this does speak to capitalism. Oh no, yeah,
it's like, yeah, that's often how artworks dork.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Like. They made me really like want to see some
movies by like shitting on them in this article. They're
like The Dreadful mountain Head has billionaires writing their net
worth on their chest like that. That movie actually like
has I think a very good depiction of like what
these billionaires are like. Like the Steve Carell character is
just the most insufferable piece of shit that I think
is like a great example of what all these people
(37:31):
are like. Twenty eight years later, the latest sequel to
twenty eight days Later involves the aftermath of the rage
viruses escape from bioweapons bioweapons lab. I don't even know
how that. They don't even bothered connecting that to the
thesis they're just like. Twenty days later involves the aftermath
of a rage virus escape from That doesn't connect in
(37:52):
any way, right, what the fuck is this article? You've
been talking about? The materialists betray anyone successful is shallow
as a puddle. Antis and Eddington are the bad guys.
So anyways, those are all movies that I guess could
be interesting to watch. So she also says that movies
about the free market depict the markets as corrupt and
(38:13):
entrepreneurs as duficses, and two of the examples she picks,
the Wolf of Wall Street and The Social Network, are
true stories about corrupt stufses. So like, I don't know,
what do you what do you want us to do here?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
What I cannot with this pretty good movies though.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, I have a friend who saw Wolf of wall
Street and became a stockbroker. Wow, was like, oh dang,
ladies like that and cars like that. So it goes
to show like how how profoundly the message gets lost,
you know, especially that's whatever, this is a deeper or
a different issue. But that's kind of the problem with
satire sometimes is that like it still is you know,
(38:54):
you still get high watching this exploitation in a way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I feel like Wolf of Wall Street was one of
the best things to happen to Crack ever, because it's
like it shows them smoking crack and having a lot
of fun, which is the first time it was depicted
as that in the history of like mainstream cinema. Yeah,
and the Ludes the Louds was pretty funny. Man.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That movie does make me wish, like lament that ludes
don't really exist anymore, because I'm like, ah, I feel
like they would really help me sleep.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think i'd have fun with the load, help you sleep,
and record albums like Rumors by Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
I mean, think of art, you know, I know you
have to balance them out with the cocaine to get
ups up. To record rumors. But yeah, the yeah. The
wright has argued that they eat the rich. Genre has
gotten much worse in recent years thanks to movies like Parasite,
Knives Out, and The Menu. So they do have two
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examples that they think are like this is what movies
should be. Ghostbusters is one of them. Yes, I'm calling Ghostbusters,
she says, which is I think that's right. I think
Ghostbusters is a profoundly conservative movie. Like there's so many
like the They the Enemy is the epa.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
APA, Yeah, yes, super bizarre.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Also, you watch it when you're older and you're like, man,
if you're like Bill Murray's funny, and then later you're like,
oh no, he's an He's an awful creep.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Such an asshole, disgustin creep.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
But then the other example that uses the Founder, which
have you seen the movie The Founder? Yeah? Completely, is
that the the.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Michael Keaton Yeah, oh McDonald ross. Yeah, he steals McDonald's
from the McDonald's from the Sweet brothers who like first
made it. And she like, I don't know if they
just like didn't watch to the end of it. Add
to the Founder and Ray Kroc is what she says,
which is all about how McDonald's was like a nice
restaurant and then this like psycho comes along and kicks
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the founders out, and like it's not exactly like a
subtle critique, but she's somehow like this is one that
shows how cool it is.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's also like he gets he gets rich, and then
and then divorces his long suffering wife too, and then
Mary's that, you know what I mean. So apparently this
lady was like, oh, nice upgrade.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Swish this guy fucking and he did it didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Wow? Wait is this the same article where the writer
is like.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Movies like movies love socialism. Yeah, so they're saying, like
all movies are obsessed with socialism. The Godfather is too critical,
it makes capitalism look too bad, and therefore it's socialist.
The only two good movies are Ghostbusters and the Founder.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Oh okay, I thought they were saying that, like Parasite
and Knives Out is how movies should be, because those.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Are always very stark. You think Parasite is very bad.
But they also somehow did like they're so desperate. I
don't know, they must not have seen Iron Man or
bad Man because they're so desperate to like come up
with a movie that's about how capitalism is good, that
they that they resort to the founder, which is like
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definitely a cautionary tale, right, definitely, just like this guy's
too ambitious and he like fucking loses his mind and
is a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
And also like at any point you're like, wait, hold
on now, if I'm associating with those in power and
I'm disliking art, yeah, a little bit put me on
the side of fascism. Just I just historically I think
that's generally the case. Yeah, movie speaks you know what
I mean, speak to like the gentle human heart and
the challenges around being a person, especially in capitalism.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
You know. Yeah, that's called propaganda more pro person anti
corporate propaganda. Yeah, well propaganda sick is what it is.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, like to Kill a Mockingbird and trash like that.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Like truly, that's like that. That's where it's like Pargrisite,
which was just ranked the number one movie in the
twenty first century, so critical and it's like, oh, poor people,
shut the fuck up. Anyways, this is it is kind
of fun to you know, the right is always like
(43:13):
you guys have Trump derangement syndrome, Like this is they
they and the mainstream Democratic Party all have like Zor
and Mamdani derangement syndrome, and they're just like can't deal
and are coming up with the wildest fucking explanations for
how these very popular policies that everybody's been like these
(43:33):
would be very popular policies if anybody did them, how
they could possibly be popular? And this is where they're at.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Because Drastic World Rebirth it must be.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, yeah, of course, every right, the movie that's influencing
all of us. I am in support, of course, though,
of politicians having having to prove their physical strength through
like bench presses in the Senate and stuff, unless you
are strong, in which case you have to do a
crossword puzzle.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Your opponent gets to decide which one.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yep, yeah, because otherwise we're just gonna add it with
Terry Cruise for mediocracy with them, which is what they want,
a bustle like a bunch of muscle man.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
That's right, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll
come back, we'll talk about AI kittens. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And you know, as creators of content
(44:36):
online content, sometimes it's good for us to just take
a step back and look at what the competition is
doing out there. You know what, what are we competing with?
And it's viral kittens. That's that's what we're losing too
right now. People these videos. Have you seen these videos?
(44:57):
They're like kind of slide shows. Usually it's a series
of images of very fat kittens or cats, sometimes falling
out of the plane or a boat, or landing on
a remote island, or just like getting bullied getting divorced.
One that I watched, the kitten was getting an ass
(45:18):
on his test, getting yelled at by his cat dad
no way, but then studying getting an a getting divorced
Kramer versus Kramer style like dramas. Yeah, so it's this
weird thing that they So the way these videos are
made is essentially just people putting prompts into AI NonStop.
(45:43):
I can't tell if they're like, Okay, give me like
twenty different scenarios of these like kidden videos, or if
like each one they're like give me a kitten failing
at test, or you know, like I think it's more
like give me thirty different of like things happen to
a cat that is cute and chubby and orange and
(46:04):
then the AI takes over, and the thing that they've discovered,
apparently is the cheat code is just making like really
sad things happen to the kittens, and like then the
kittens just like sobbing and looking really sad. It is
like pretty affecting. I will say, like the you don't
(46:27):
want to see bad things happen to these kittens because
they're pretty cute.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Right, well, it appeals to our emotional response, something that
AI will never understand. But yeah, it but just through
sheer guess and check right exactly. Yeah, they don't know
why these things would be appealing to human emotions, but no, yeah,
(46:52):
it's uh, that is horrible, especially because it's like probably
drying up a well every time you search for like
a cat getting divorced.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah yeah, literally like causing actual children to sob in
some place. And so I just want to read this
quote from one of the creators. Despite the inconsistencies and
occasional hallucinations of the AI generators, and you do like
the cats like don't look the same from image damage.
They will be like slightly different, but you can like
(47:21):
tell that they're supposed to be the same thing, he says.
The cat stories remain compelling because of how quote devastating
they are. I just love that I can invest in
these characters while everything else is so goofy. It seems
like it would not be emotional the way you can
create anything that looks like this, but it's successful. Sometimes
the contrast is great. A good cat one of the
(47:42):
creators A good cat video is one is one with
a tragic ending, a devastating one. The reason is firstly
because I wanted to amuse myself to put the cats
in crazy situations. I also saw that sad videos generate
more engagement because they elicit the compassion of viewers, which
spoken like a true robot.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
I mean, okay, I have so many thoughts about this one,
speaking as a fan of cat videos real cats, obviously,
I don't want to see them distraught. I want to
see them being cute and having a nice little kit
in time, and just the idea that they have to
like artificially generate sad imagery to compel people and appeal
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to their emotions, like just look at what's happening in
the world exactly and raw, and like, you know, harness
compassion from that and utilize it to affect change for
the good, like what.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
It's the that is by design. I think it's like
this severe, this surreal version of reality where we're all
like cordoned off from one another so that we don't
feel genuine human contact with other people and genuine human
emotions for other people because thosetions like that human contact
is not monetizable, you know, like feeling feeling bad for
(49:07):
people who are being victimized by capitalism is actually the
opposite of like profitable, right, so they want they want
to keep us away from that, and instead they like
cordin us off in these little like media delivery cells
where we're just these emotions that we should be feeling
(49:28):
that are like natural to feel, like, you know, sadness
and sympathy and empathy like those are being like artificially
expressed from us, like an industrial milker that's like mimicking
the mouth of a calf. You know. They're just like
extracting the emotions from us artificially, and we're often our
(49:49):
like little hyperbaric emotion chambers just being fed ai slop
that like makes us feel sad while not feeling sad
about the thing we should feel sad about are other
people and the fact that we're like wasting our lives
ignoring each other.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Right if I mean, like if if enough people could
unite under caring about Israel starving Gaza, for example, and
it's like, but now we have to consume AI cats
question cats.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I also like, you know, look, I live for a
video where a duck becomes friends with a donkey. I can't.
I will spend you know, most of my door watching
stuff like that. But it's also it's because that's not
supposed to happen. Or if it's AI, then it's clear,
it's clearly generated. It's not going to make me feel
that those emotions. But I wonder if the same way that,
like in the Superman movie, there's AI that I find,
(50:47):
like the dog is pretty computer generated, which is unnecessary.
Just like the dog, I like a dog actor, I
don't need it, like to see his fake mouth like upturned,
you know what I mean. I wonder if for younger
people who.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Give like a like a knowing smile at one point.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
Yeah, there's kind of a lot of that, like he's
you know, where he's like, oh you can't believe something,
you know, his eyes get big or whatever. Yeah, So
maybe that's why people are just more used, more used
to AI and it feels more natural because to me,
it always feels like it's still I know where it's
gonna keep getting better and better, but not yet for me,
(51:23):
still looks.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
That un Kenny Valley is still yeah, very much there.
But I do I I wonder if there's something to
that that like a whole generation of people who grew
up on CGI in media and then they're like, yeah,
that's just yeah, I can be emotionally affected by that totally.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
And then they see AI generated imagery and they're like, yeah,
that just looks like the cartoons and I want or whatever,
like the superhero movies that I've seen.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know they're
like that. I get those like profound, like deep kind
of sadness whenever I see like a family, like when
I'm traveling and I see like a whole family where
like the parents are all on their phones and the
kids are like on there, everybody's like ignoring each other
just on their phones. Like I don't it's just and
(52:15):
then when I noticed my family doing it, I have
to like go watch my cat videos or else I
get really sad because that's.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, get on your phone and alongside your other your
other family members on their phones.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Let's have a realization, Jack, No, don't don't do that. Yeah, yeah,
but have a realization about how sad it is that.
Let me see what this cat's name is. I think
they call it like Chubby's or something, Chubbers. Yeah, the
unstoppable Rise of Chubby. Why TikTok's AI generated cat could
(52:50):
be the future of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
So I miss this part of the story. Are these
like these are like viral? These are very popular?
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yes, okay, so they they ran There was a h
the Shrimp Jesus study from early twenty twenty four. Do
you know about the shrimp Jesus were like, no, it's
just they looked into their like there's suddenly this flood
of AI slop all over the Internet. Where's it coming from?
(53:17):
And they found it was like being generated by like
these AI like people who are using AI to just
be like, give me a hundred different like image series
of like and one of them was Jesus's head on
the body of a shrimp and like a bunch of
like crabs like worshiping him. And but yes, one of
(53:41):
the ten most viewed posts in one of the quarters
that they were looking at, Like Q two of twenty
twenty three on Facebook was an unlabeled AI generated image
from a page that used to be like a cooking page,
like somebody who liked to cook and had a lot
of followers.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Not kidding, I like it when other people like.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
But they then transitioned it into just showing AI generated
images of kitchens, you know, because that's how you you
can just it's this weird thing where it's just people
out there just like generating like an unending stream of
these posts onto like various channels that used to have
(54:21):
actual people behind them and are now So it's like
the AI is like on one side of it generating
images that are like designed to try to fool the
AI algorithms on the other side into like sending them
out to a bunch of people. And then yeah, so
you're just like again fully isolated from any human contact,
(54:46):
just being like on one end of this massive like
transactional thing that is burning a bunch of forests, but
burning a bunch of forests like far away from where
we are.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Right and also making all of southern Georgia smell like
gas fumes, right, that's that's trade off.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah. Well, Kaitlin Doranta, is such a pleasure having you
on the daily Zeikeist as always. Uh, where can people
find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
You can find me on Instagram if you must. At
Caitlin Durante. What I would like to plug is the
Bechdel Cast Midwest Tour. Uh, we're covering the Star Wars prequels.
As we've discussed, We're going to Indianapolis. Our show there
(55:37):
is August thirtieth, so coming up Chicago August thirty first, Madison,
Wisconsin September fourth, and Minneapolis September seventh. So Zeke Gang
come through. Please, we would love to see you. We
would love to have you. You can grab tickets at
(55:58):
link Tree, slash Bachtel car Past and.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
That sounds great. And you're gonna be going over every
prequel in every show.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Exactly, so each show will be all three prequels. And
why did we do that to ourselves? I don't know,
but it's too late now.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
And you to see the Kaitlin Durante cut down of
the prequels, much like the toe for Grades one.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, well how long was his?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
His is like eighty something minutes.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Okay, well I did well. I mean, mine's a recap,
so it's I'm really leaving some stuff out. But yeah,
I recapped in video format each of the three movies.
Each video recap is like five minutes or less. So
I really really did some cutting.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
That sounds really fun. I can't wait to watch.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
So there will be those videos. There's all kinds of
other fun segments during the show. There's gonna be a
classic Bechdel Cast discourse, you know, lots of lots of
good stuff. And then I also just want to shout
out Slash promote Slash, encourage people to donate to the
Global Samood Flotilla. I don't know if I said that right,
(57:07):
but it's the flotilla that is leaving from Spain and
Tonisia I think, and then in the coming days and
sailing to Gaza to provide aid and try to stop
the siege.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
So Global.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yes dot org is where you can learn more about
it and donate. So just want to shout that out.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Hell yeah, nice. Is there a work of media that
you've been enjoying? No, okay, more, where can people find you?
Is there a work of media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
Yeah at more Burke on all the socials as a
nineties kid.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
I'm loving where hip hop is right now. So the
new Clips album, the nw JID album, obviously g n X,
and a guy that I know, brother Ali, has a
great record called Satisfied Soul out a couple of months ago,
but I'm still enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah open. Mike Eagle also has a new album out
that's really good.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Where he says mercury and Gatorade.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
Oh really, yeah, Yeah, that's great all right. You can
find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian on
Blue Sky at Jack Obi and the number one uh
work media I've been enjoying is a Nogarfuncle just reposted
a picture of John Bolton and Cash Patel and tweeted
(58:34):
two of the most Guess who faces out? You really
couldn't look more more like Guess who cares?
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Bolton especially is straight off the Guess Who board. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
You can find us on Twitter, on Blue Sky, at
Daily Zey Guys R at the Daily Zeigeist. On Instagram,
you can go to the description of this episode wherever
you're listening to it, and there you will find the footnotes,
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about today's episode. We also look off to
a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles Out
on Assignment Toper producer Justin Conner, is there a song
(59:10):
that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Yeah, this track is something I would describe as like
very spacey, deeply meditative. The sound design is very impressive.
The vocals are hypnotic, the falsettos are smooth. It's just
a nice little vacation of a song. This is called
gold Coast by Bosco.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
That's b O. S c O.
Speaker 4 (59:32):
And you can find that in the footnotes.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
Footnotes. Is Bosco the name of like a chocolate serra
is a Bosco? I do not know Bosco syrups. Yeah,
well it's a type of chocolate syrup. But I remember
from like a maybe yes reference in Seinfeld.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
I don't know anyways, Well, this is rich and smooth
like chocolate syrup.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
There. Hell yeah.
Speaker 7 (59:59):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
The Daily zeit Geist is executive produced by Catherine.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Long, co produced by Bee Wang.
Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by J M mcnapp,
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