MBS BFFs, CPAC = “Subtle” Nazism 3.2.21

In episode 822, Jack and Miles are joined by American Hysteria podcast host Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss the George Floyd trial, Biden and Saudi Arabia, CPAC, the right's outrage over the Muppets cancellation, an Illinois Democrat wanting to ban violent video games, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. After backlash, Minneapolis scraps social ‘influencer’ plan for trial over killing of George Floyd
2. Biden Won’t Penalize Saudi Crown Prince Over Khashoggi’s Killing, Fearing Relations Breach
3. CPAC Orlando: Trump hints at running again in 2024 as a Republican, but only 68% of attendees agree
4. How A Nazi Symbol At CPAC Turned Into A Massive Hyatt Public Relations Disaster
5. Don Jr.’s Outrage Over ‘The Muppets’ Being ‘Canceled’ Is Being Mocked For The Most Obvious Flaw In Logic
6. Fact checking CPAC: speakers make false claims about the election, the Capitol attack, immigration, Covid, and The Muppets
7. The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of 'negative depictions of cultures'
8. Here's why certain Muppet Show episodes are missing from Disney+
9. Fox News Absolutely Freaks Out Over Disney+ ‘Muppets’ Disclaimer
10. Right-Wingers Outraged by Muppet Plot!
11. Muppet movies: their communist plots revealed
12. Miss Piggy Comes Out as Pro-Abortion
13. A 'perfect storm' for car break-ins: Vehicle theft spikes across the U.S. amid COVID-19 pandemic
14. Carjackings more than double in Chicago during 2020, police say, perhaps as criminals blended in with masked public
15. Ban sale of Grand Theft Auto, other violent video games, state rep says
16. Illinois rep. wants to ban ‘all violent video games’ to curb violence
17. ‘Grand Theft Auto V’ sold 20 million units

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, seventy four,
Episode two of der Days Like Guys, production of I
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, March second.
My name is Jack O'Brien. A K du brings my

(00:22):
sperm count down right down. Never go to Poundtown because
it's so down. Due brings the Western sperm count down
like children of Men. We're all going down down. That
is courtesy of Abstrustle, the official dickhead. There's so many
on Twitter. What an honor to have the official the

(00:45):
blue check mark of dickheads. Uh providing a K S
and yeah that was I'm I'm shocked it didn't occur
to us when we were talking about the West's lowering
sperm count. That uh, Mountain dew is probably the culprit.
I am thrilled to be joined as always by my

(01:05):
co host, Mr Miles Grab. Don't go chaste, Sympomo. Please
stick to the people and the pos that you used to.
I know that Joe gonna fuck around and find how Cuomo,
you're just moving too fast? What's outdoor dining? Thank you

(01:31):
to the Interdimensional technician for that one, because yeah, a
lot of governors are just ready to fucking I don't know,
set the clock back to January or some ship. So that,
uh is a little frightening. I mean I think a
poet once said that. Uh. I think the T. S.

(01:52):
Eliot or the guy who wrote The Great Guests, but
one of them said that America has no second acts.
American life has no second acts. And I think America
fucking around and finding out as it doesn't have the
find out part. They just funk around and then everybody
looks the other way while they find out. Yeah, it's it.
We're people just ignore the finding out. We're not finding out.

(02:14):
We're not finding out. We're not finding out. We're not
finding out. I don't know they're not finding out at
all of them. Uh. Well, we are thrilled to have
in our third seat one of the classic guests, the hilarious,
that talented Chelsea Webber Smith. Happy to be here. I

(02:34):
don't have a song to have you, happy to be
here to have you. We are going to speak like
this the whole time. Uh, what what's new in your world? Chelsea?
What is new in my world? Um? I've prepared a
couple of rants for you guys when the time comes
when I get to have my personal time. So until then,

(02:59):
as usual, I'm going on walks. I the most important
event in my life as I found a yearbook from
nineteen seventy and I've been really like figuring out the
relationships between the different characters in this yearbook. And you know,
the queen be finding out who her boyfriend is. There's
a lot of information in this book and looking them

(03:21):
up on social media. So just another quarantine, uh, projects
it's a yearbook with the inscriptions there are no Um
it was I figured out that it was like a
teacher's or the assistant principle. Some old asked, dude, how
this nineteen seventy yearbook from uh, New Mexico got on

(03:44):
the ground in West Seattle. Is very cool mystery, but
otherwise tragically there are no inscriptions. You're getting the interpersonal
information from just like your book. Yeah, and I mean
they're they're writing up like, you know, she was the

(04:05):
town princess. I don't remember the name, she's the town
princess going, you know, going steady with you know whoever,
and uh, you can really trace uh sort of the
social scene that was happening there, and we've got this
amazing emo kid who had like an original swoop and
which wasn't really a popular hairstyle, I don't think in

(04:28):
oh yeah it was feathered and or it was just
yeah it was all. But yeah, this kid was like
the you know, the school newspaper editor and went on
to have this amazing quote that was like he wanted
to be a psychology major. I looked them up in
the newspaper, all these old newspapers. Yeah, it was so
fun and uh, you know he said something like I

(04:51):
should have gotten it, but he said something like he
was going to be a psychology major. So he was
interviewed in the newspaper for that and he said, you know,
I love watch people, and you know, I can really
understand people by watching them, but I'm different. No one
can understand me. I was like, man, it's because he
was presaging the dawn of reality television, you know what

(05:14):
I mean? That's what like how I say, like I
like to watch people and learn through trash TV. I'm
this person, y'all in this person. Well I think I
did you know, I did a pretty I've been watching
a lot of catfish, so I did a pretty intensive
dive into this. Guess what, gay writer, gay author, beautiful

(05:38):
just a great a great uh bot arc for for
our EMO kids. So that's really all I've been This
sounds like this sounds like a spinoff show from Starley Kind,
which is a random yearbook, and then start putting the
pieces together and then verify with the people you can
track down. That was what I was hoping to do,
but so far nobody's I was like, just be great

(06:01):
podcasts and then well here I'll throw you on a
someone from like one of my high school I'm sure
all those talk to you. What, um, what is there
anything surprising like about the styles or like who what
people were into at that time. I mean, it's pretty.
It's pretty boring, you know. It feels like, yeah, it's pretty.
It's like very fifties, even though it's inteventy. You know,

(06:23):
it's kind of like prim and proper. But there's like
some there's Oh, there's a great part where they talk
about going to an orphanage to like do some sort
of volunteer work. Um, I don't know which group it was.
It was some sort of you know, and after school group.
But all they did they went to this orphanage, and

(06:44):
all the little section said was that they gave orphans
a stuffed mouse, and it seemed to be a singular
stuffed mouse. It was mouse, it wasn't mice. So I
don't know if there was just a singular a mouse
orphan Nigen give mouse. That was pretty much the article.
It's bizarre. I feel like the stuff I read about

(07:07):
the six season seventies. Um, when people are doing like
myf debunking, it's usually that the kind of kind of
what you just alluded to, that it's like more square
and more like nineteen fifties than the popular imagination remembers,
because everybody was focused on like hippies and the anti
war movement and then like disco and like those things

(07:29):
were sort of uh subcultures that were on the outskirts
and everybody else like a lot of the other people
just had like, uh, the same haircut, and um, you know,
the number one song during the Vietnam War period. The
best illustration of this that I can think of is
it was not anything by Credence Clearwater Revival. It was Honey, Honey, Sugar, Sugar,

(07:54):
You Are My Candy Girl by the Archies by by
by Archie as a mused issue. So yeah, I guess
looking back, what the myths will bus is like, Look,
only some of us were eating ass and into Q
and on, not everyone. It wasn't just that ass eating
conspiracy fest. Okay, some people have work to do. Yeah,

(08:18):
I mean, but see it all depends and see that's
where we start getting into nuance. But I think overall this,
I'm sure I'll tell my kid, this is not a
good outfit for your twenties dress up day. Right, Yeah, yeah, Um,
all right, Chelsea, we're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First couple of things
we're talking about today. Uh, we're gonna talk about America's

(08:41):
two facedness being all over the place. We're gonna talk
about Trump's speck appearance, which was kind of kind of quiet, subdued.
We'll talk about GAB continuing our right wing social media
deep dive, but but there's not that much depth. That's
just a pretty shallow. This place is not good at

(09:05):
being a social network. We'll talk about the right wing
outrage in defense of the muppets, uh, and why that
is completely bullshit because the right actually hates the muppets
and have for a long time. We'll talk about what
could be the future of New York City, a future

(09:25):
that would make me have to move there. It sounds amazing. Um,
talk about zombies, We'll talk about the new postal trucks,
and we will talk about a good old fashioned American
moral panic. Kind of a pathetic one, but we do
have to talk about it because Chelsea is here. Um. Yeah.

(09:47):
But before we get to any of that, Chelsea, we
like to ask our guest, Uh, what is something from
your search history that is revealing about who you are,
what you're up to. Well, um, I hope you guys
can relate to the because it will be more fun.
But my most recent interesting one is c k Y Videos.
Do you guys remember c k Y the DVD somewhere

(10:10):
my garage right now? Less you? Yeah, So we're working
on an episode. Um And in case people don't know,
I host a podcast called American Hysteria. Covers moral panics,
conspiracy theories, urban legends, fantastical thinking, but through um a
lens of sort of cultural criticism and uh sociology and stuff.
So not do these things exist, but sort of how

(10:32):
does our culture produce these and then how do they
affect the culture? So anyway, the way that c K
y UM, which were a series of skate videos um
by the now famous Jackass Crew. Um that's the most
simple way to put it. But we're doing a episode
about influencers right now and the culture of like branding

(10:53):
people essentially um. And immediately I was like, what isn't like,
what's an earlier influence and served like pre internet, And
I was like, Oh, it's sponsored skating And you guys
probably remember like how cool it was to be a
sponsored skater and like the late nineties that was like

(11:14):
that was the Twitter verified check mark, it was open
way more doors, it was the top. Yeah, it was
like and you know, there weren't that many for a while,
and then um, the kind of like influencer micro influencer
thing happened. And so I've just been really diving into
the history of marketing skateboarding and the idea of like

(11:35):
authenticity being so important in branding and how there was
kind of like back then there was nothing as authentic
as being just like a fucking skateboarder, you know, because
it was just middle fingers and weed and uh, it
was shoes that would hide your weed. Yeah, just the
biggest shoes. It's basically like the platform shoe of the

(11:58):
masculine world. Platform, Yeah, the pro platform. But so that
that's kind of revealing about at least what I've been doing.
And so I've just gotten to go back and I
was a I was a skater um in my day,
and just to kind of go back and and remember
just like pushing, like having someone push someone in a
shopping cart and launching them into a bush, and just

(12:20):
like pranks at the mall and how skate culture and
prank culture kind of has led us to a really
different thing. But if you think about like the YouTube
TikTok houses, like these sponsored skaters were just getting like
hauled around the country and just being showered with cash
like ten grand a month, and just I don't know,

(12:41):
it's it's so similar to these weird mc mansion's full
of tick talkers. You know, it's just like the wranglers. Yeah,
and that's kind of what it was. It was like
crankout videos. Crank out like the most incendiary. I mean,
I was like, oh my god, the nineties were so bad.
People cannot imagine. And you know, it's not like I

(13:03):
was perfect in So it's just sort of like, really,
it's been just a really fun and fascinating dive back
into this really um offensive masculine culture that kind of
is mirrored and like what like Logan Paul I would say,
it's like some kind of a continuation of of Jack
Ascid and skate pranks. But that's been, Uh, that's my

(13:27):
big fun time lately. It's just watching old Scape videos.
The c k Y video has definitely had like a
panic in like a Christian Catholic mother set, you know,
because there was like there was like Pentagram iconography and
some of this stuff and it stood for camp kill
yourself and like on top of it, it was giving
every idiot teenager like the idea to break their wrists

(13:49):
at a local parking lot in a shopping cart that
you pushed off a loading dock with no sense of
what gravity is. Um, So like yeah, I remember people
will be like, oh, like like a c k YEA
was like oh you have that, like oh that's sick,
like blah blah blah, But yeah c k Y two K.
I still I still have that ship somewhere because I

(14:10):
was like, yo, Mike Ballelli beats up three dudes in
it outside of seven eleven. In this one, people were
like what because it almost it was like a you.
It was like YouTube on a mixtape. You got skating,
you got skating, you got pranks, maybe some weird toxic
masculinity in the form of like misogynistic tropes or whatever,

(14:31):
like dick jokes and fighting engage jokes, lots of jokes,
lots of racism like stuff that you're like, oh my god,
like the stuff at least to put on the boards,
even like print on boards was just like, oh yeah,
I remember there was like a Chico benez deck that
was like of a like a dude selling like oranges

(14:52):
like out an off ramp or something out of a
shopping cart and people it's as sick as deck right now. Yeah,
it's just a really different. It was a shock. It
was a really big shock culture time. For sure. Well
we have that, but it's just transformed a lot. So
it was named after a band, I guess, and one
of the drummer for the band was Jesse mar Jarra,

(15:13):
who is I guess Bam mar Jarre's older brother. So
it's it also has that like sort of how a
scene develops in like a small town sort of vibe
to it, and then suddenly, like Johnny Knoxville's shooting himself
in the chest point blank range. Like I just watched
a video of Johnny Knoxville just just shooting himself in

(15:35):
the chest, and he's like, yeah, I didn't know, like
this is the cheapest bulletproof vest I could find, and
she's just like, what the fuck? What were we watching?
And those guys like Johnny Knoxville was already part of
that scene like from the start, or did he kind
of jump on it once it He wasn't part of
the why he came, Like c K was its own thing,

(15:57):
and then it started got it blended. I don't through,
but yeah, that's when I'm I don't know if that's
when Spike Jones just mary the two groups together to
make Jackass, but I know Spike Jones was the next
he was involved in it. Yeah, And he was like
really responsible for like weaving in skate culture into like
music videos like Best Boys and all kinds of like

(16:19):
you know, everything. He was doing commercials and stuff, just
like weaving in skateboarding until it became this like really
common trend and enriched zooms essentially, yea, authenticity is so
important and yet like they just pulled that in and
made it inauthentic and yeah, yeah, I uh. Robert Evans

(16:44):
on a recent episode of Bastards with Jamie loft Us
about the Man No Sphere uh and that sort of
toxic masculinity sort of like the Alpha and now there's
a Sigma Mail and all that ship. It's really good episode.
But they there's a theory they talked about that capitalism

(17:04):
is basically a really smart um ai that has like
basically reached the singularity because it just immediately incorporates and
like always makes the right like move to counter whatever
attacks it and like incorporates it into into its grid

(17:25):
or you know logic basically, which makes a lot of sense. Well,
and you know it was, I mean, we'll we have
we're covering this in our episode coming up. But it's
uh a lot of influencer marketing. As we know, it
was actually designed by Freud's nephew, and uh, it's very Yeah,
I don't know if you guys know about him, Edward Burnet's,

(17:46):
but it's we're going to get into that, and it's
just really Freudian like the way that advertising evolved is
super entwined with psychotherapy, which is just so creepy. Culture.
It insists on having unhappy people for it to thrive. Like,
if you're fully realized and self actualized, you might not

(18:07):
need to reach for these products to be like this
constant spend cycle of the advertiser dangling the thing and
the lifestyle they think you want and say, if you
buy this, then you could be this. And I think
that's the other part is like it also benefits, you know, uh,
this consumer culture capitalism to have as many unhappy people
as well, because you know, happy people don't buy as

(18:28):
much crap. Yeah, and then the unhappy people create great
art that they can then uh incorporate into the capitalists
uh slipstream. Right. Yeah, it's a it's a great system
they've designed, uh or that's designed. Yeah, it certainly works.
The other loud thing just some lot of people know

(18:49):
knows about Spike Jones. You know that. I don't know
if you've heard the Spiegel catalog. He's that he isn't
he comes from this His name is Sam Spiegel or
whatever Spiegel um and he changed it to Jones because
it was like a very very famous mail order catalog
that was like, you know, huge and like the early
twentieth century, so you know, gotta gotta change the name

(19:09):
around so they don't know you. You know, you're a
rich boy Spike. Wow, that's cool. I didn't know that.
And isn't he with Sofia Coppola. It's like, Oh, it's
all wonderful. I love it. I love it. Was his
character Giovanni Ribisi in Lost in Translation is his character.
Uh yeah, but that's interesting that like he's been part

(19:30):
of a marketing dynasty because I didn't know that. I'm
gonna have to weave that in thank you. Yeah, a
nepotism and marketing the two defining forces of America. Um,
let's take a quick break, uh, and we'll be right
back to get your over it and under it. And

(20:00):
we're back and Chelsea, we like to ask our guests,
as you know, what is something that you think is underrated.
I'm not gonna expand on this much because I have
much more to say about the next question. But I'm
very into Hacky Sack again. Um. And it's and I mean,
I think you know what it's like been brought up

(20:21):
because of watching all these skate videos, I think. And
my friend got me a Hackey sack and that was
something I used to do a lot in middle and
high school. Um, and uh, we actually I did want
to tell you guys this. We snuck through. We had
a club called the Hack Club, and of course we
smoked a lot of weed, and so we made these

(20:41):
shirts that said, um, the Hat Club, but it said
th HC really big um and then it said Shorewood's Finest.
Fire it up and it snuck through somehow. The administration
didn't figure it out until it was too late and
we had proliferated these all over the school. It was
really cool. So Hackey sack is my one of my

(21:02):
truest passions and people think it's so stupid. I don't
know why. I think it's super cool. Uh. And what
is something you think is overrated? Well? This is this
goes back to what we were talking about before. But um,
brand activism. Um is something I've been thinking about a lot.

(21:23):
And you know, part of our episode focuses on the
Kendall Jenner PEPSI scandal um that we all remember. I'm sure, um,
but got me thinking as I'm watching all of this
stuff unfold on Twitter and for people who don't know,
I am non binary. UM, I use the then pronouns
and so this week has been real fun for me.

(21:45):
So but you know, it's it's like watching, um, watching
things happen like the potato folks now who are not gendered, um,
and you know that that whole thing of like oh well,
like I mean a lot of people were piste off
and thought it was, you know, super stupid and everything.

(22:06):
But I think, you know, it's nice, it's nice, you know,
but for me, it doesn't feel authentic necessarily. And I
know that uh sixty four this is really important. I
think six of millennials and this is you know, polls
are weird, but this is sort of what companies are
banking on. Is this particular study that says six of

(22:28):
millennials will buy from brands that their values align right.
So it's like there's a huge amount of money in
in being part of movements the way PEPSI tried to
sort of exploit the Black Lives Matter protests and everything. UM.
And I think what's so interesting is like I didn't

(22:48):
ask for the potato heads to not have genders. I mean,
what they're they're one potatoes too. You can switch their
parts already, so like you can put you can put
the high heels on with the little bowl or hat.
It doesn't matter. But like I don't I don't think
there was like an outcry from trans and non binary

(23:08):
people to do away with the genders of the potatoes. Um,
And yet now all of the hate is like falling
back on, like as if we demanded this and were
totally unreasonable. So it's this like like they get to
look good and then we get to like carry the
brunt as ridiculous as that, maybe from whomever decides to

(23:30):
think that that's a horrible or ridiculous or you know,
the left is going too far again thing, But it's
like the left did did did we demand that? Or
was that just an opportunity that they saw to market to.
I think it's just it's open for attacks from the
right and the you know, the culture war context, because
if you're progressive and you are actually caring about these things,

(23:52):
you will say like, oh, that's a little that's regressive
or that's aggressive to have this thing just sort of
delineated as a binary or whatever. Considering that progressive people
say and generally like genders are construct is everybody still
with me? Okay, so then therefore let's look at these things.
But I think because they know that to be part
of like progressive culture, that it's like, of course they

(24:13):
wanted this because everything is gonna It's like, look, there's
between like yeah, like talking about things on how to
move forward and trying to paint someone as like a
you know, maybe there was someone who had a campaign
against the potato heads, but I there's certainly larger battles
for me to pick the pro And also a lot

(24:34):
of trance people use mr or missus like it's not
it's such a strange. It's just really and I mean,
obviously potatoes also don't inherently have genders. I think that
they're like self whatever, I don't know. Science isn't my thing. Yeah,
there you go. But you know, and of course, like
another important thing is, like I'm speaking for myself, I'm

(24:56):
sure that there's lots of queer, you know, gender non
people that think that that's wonderful. And it is. I mean,
it's great. But what's great about it is not Hasbro
or whatever the company is. It's it's the fact that
they're reflecting back to us, our own culture through an
unfortunate medium. But nonetheless we can say, okay, like this
is the direction culture is going, even if it's messy

(25:19):
and stupid and shitty and embarrassing and launches us into
like the spotlight. I mean, we're gonna talk about the
mumpets and it's kind of you know, it's it's like
a similar type of thing. But yeah, I think brand
activism is uh, you know, I mean it's overrated because
a lot of I think more progressive sort of centrist

(25:40):
might might see that and think that that's just it's
just so wonderful, you know, where whereas I'm seeing tweets
that are just horrible about you know, and then Oreos
tweets you know, trans people exist, and it's like, oh, okay,
thank you. You know, it's like, Nibisco, what's your policy
in terms of your eployees if they needed life affirming

(26:01):
gender reassignments for do you do you kick in on that?
You know, no, there's no there's no paid leave or
anything like that. But the oreoke, well, here that's the difference.
That wasn't Nibiscos saying that that was the cookie talking.
They're gonna take that up with the cookie. I don't
think the cookie has benefits or hr so I don't know.
I I feel like the it's interesting to you the

(26:22):
potato head thing on a continuing with the pepsi ad
because I feel like the pepsi Ad was an example
of the brand trying to appeal to people who have
progressive politics and it's just like failed miserably because they

(26:45):
first of all, it was just poor, like horribly handled,
but also, uh, it's just a more subtle thing to
do that, whereas the I do wonder like I would
love to see a marketing material leak like they had
with the logo design for pepsi where they were just
like posed for twenty million dollars by people who are

(27:05):
just like throwing out how to use photoshop. Yeah, who
knew how to use photoshop. But I wonder if this
is part of the calculus at this point, that because
the right is just so reliable in its outrage and
you know exactly what is going to happen when you
do something that is even remotely progressive in any way

(27:30):
that the right is going there's going to be an outrage. Uh,
that is incredibly reliable and that automatically pits you against,
so it it's like a safer bet to do something
that's designed to outrage the right and be safe as
opposed to like trying to do whatever the funk the
pepsi ad was trying to do. Yeah, I think there's

(27:51):
or it's like it's just genius troll marketing. It's like
watch but nobody give a funk about potato Head. We're
gonna do this thing. It's going to outrage the right.
Every renews outlets going to cover it and without paying.
Now even people have heard, well, Hasbro's on the right
side of the woke wars and that's all they had
to do was just pist off the right um, and

(28:11):
that's that seems That also seems very like a very
feasible marketing plan to save money on on your ad
Bucks because you see it done with other stuff too,
Like I mean, it's normally just like some sensational product
they used to get blocks to be like, oh my god,
a log that smells like beef, but like this ship
they can get everywhere, like just past of toy blogs

(28:33):
or food blogs by making by entering the culture wars
and be like and we're right, and honestly the people
on the right, they just talk shit. What would I
still see them drinking Kruig and wearing Nike. So yeah,
I want I want somebody from the marketing world. Uh,
if anybody, if any it is like GNG works in

(28:53):
marketing and knows, like I bet there's a term for
this whatever is like basically right wing croll baking. It's
and it's gonna be so euphemistic. You'll be like organic
societal reconciliation strategies. Oh all right, let's get into some news.

(29:16):
America is. I mean, we've talked about double standards all
over the place, but Miles, you you had kind of
written up a couple of places where you're seeing America's
double face all over the place. Just so yeah, if
it's not, if it aint double face, it doesn't belong
in your face or whatever the Carl's Junior thing is.
But it's just this whole okay, Like I'm you know,

(29:41):
like everything. If you're an aware person who's progressive, you'll
find someone to be so outraged in this country without
without even trying. Um. The first thing was, Hey, I
was just reading this thing about how these proud boys
they're being arrested, some of them are going to be
on conspiracy charges which carry just really lengthy sentences and

(30:01):
reading some of the actual descriptions of the people that
were charged. Um, you know, one guy was roaming, was
prowling around with a fucking axe handle and like threatening
to take out police. Okay, and this guy didn't get shot.
He'd gotten people's phases. You see him in video. Um,
nothing happened. It wasn't, you know, the only person that

(30:22):
there's only one person shot and killed by police like
sort of in like the main sort of melee of it,
and the quote unquote security around the capitol look more
like you know, frosh orientation at a university. You know,
it wasn't like a welcome wagon exactly, but it wasn't
really like Yo, who are you? What's going on? Who
are you? What the you doing here? So then cut
to the George Floyd trial is about to kick off

(30:45):
in Minnesota. They have already barricaded the courthouse and shut
down the street where the court is for a trial
that starts in one week. In one week, they're about
to start the trial, and they have already fortified the
place of factory because they know they're wrong. You know

(31:07):
what I mean, and the visuals of something like you
can get a lot of intel that or watch the
news that these people are going to storm the capital.
You could prepare because whatever, you know, because it's white supremacy,
will little rock whatever something like this. People outraged because
of an injustice that's being committed, and now you're like,
get the fucking steal wire out the tanks. Everything called

(31:28):
a you know, called Goku from Dragon Ball, so he
could fucking handle these people. I don't know what, Like,
it's so next level. So that was just like the
first thing that was really jarring to see. It's just
sort of this the duality of like two situations where
municipal buildings are protected or not protected, and like what
the outcomes are possible? Like or are possible? And the

(31:49):
other thing that came out of the Minneapolis thing is
the city was gonna hire social media influencers during the
George Floyd trial to reach out to communities of color
with city approved message jing to talk about the case
and people like what the funk is that they said?
Last Friday, the council unanimously approved a public and safety
communication plan tied to the upcoming trials, which paid two

(32:11):
thousand dollars per person uh to six influencers in the
city's Black, mong Latino, Native American, and Somali communities. They
scrapped that because everyone was like, what the funk are
you talking about. They said it was just to like
get information into the communities. Either way, city funded messaging
around one of the most significant trials around racial injustice
being pumped into communities is deeply problematic. So good for

(32:33):
them for figuring that out. These are people who are
probably going to be covering the story anyways, So by
adding a paycheck to it and like it being the
official city like like the unofficial official city approved messaging, Uh,
it just feels like, yeah, I mean that's like can

(32:54):
you imagine It's like, y'all, is Derek Chauvin invited to
the cookout? Like, no, get the funk out, Like that's
the kind of insidious ship that I can just you know,
not that it's gonna be that fucked up, but in
a way just as offensive. Um, the next one is
just about how Biden is handling Saudi Arabia, specifically mohammedd
Been Salmon. Okay, we were we were talking about an

(33:16):
American national Jamaha, Shoji was cut up and tortured, murdered
on the okay of mohammedd Been Salmon. Trump is just like,
let it rock, and we're like, of course he's gonna
let it rock. But at the same time, I think
we we can't really trick ourselves too much because the
U S and Saudi Arabia, Like, it's I don't know

(33:37):
when there's gonna be any kind of reckoning of this
relationship that clearly did some damage. But you know, when
you look at what Biden was saying and doing, for example,
on we talked about this strike in Syria against Irani
and back facilities and what was going on there. But
there's this need to try and get the nuclear deal done,
to try and have Iran come back to the table.
They're already being crippled with sanctions, but they're saying release

(34:01):
the sanctions as a you know, a show of goodwill
and then we can begin negotiat because right now you're
just killing us and then just demanding more, and so
you have to kind of see from our standpoint too,
it's like, well, if this is gonna be a fight
to the death, then we'll fucking knuckle up. Like that's
just how human nature works. Sanctions are violence are I mean,

(34:23):
and a lack of resources getting to people that need it.
So Mohammed been someone kills an American. Joe Biden calls
it Mohammed Bin Salman's dad. The king first to be like,
so here's the thing. You know, we're gonna make it hot,
I think, but we're not gonna do anything. And you're
just seeing the way two things are being handled, right
because on one side, I get there. There's a lot

(34:44):
to just to talk about and parsed through the United
States Saudi relationship as it relates to petro dollars, how
they helped us, uh make keep the dollar as like
the standard when it talks when we're talking about trading petroleum,
because that's a huge issue too, on top of being
a strategic ally on the region. But the whole thing,
whether it's white supremacy or autocratic regimes like the United States,

(35:07):
it's like they're so inconsistent and we ignore the bullshit
depending on like if it's white supremacy, the US is
gonna handle it. We have to go down the checklist.
What do the people who are perpetrating look like and
what do the victims look like if it comes to
autocrats with a pension for human rights violations, it's like, well,
how much are they spending on arms with us? What
can they do for us? And also what do the

(35:29):
victims look like? Because I think one thing is for
certain that if the victims are anonymous or faceless and
don't look camera ready, they can die in droves and
the needle won't move in this country. And that's the
same thing with unarmed people of color being killed by police,
or maybe the people that are being killed in Yemen
by Saudi Arabia. There's just this whole thing of like, well,
you know, it's not it's not a it's not because

(35:51):
see Jamaha Shoji wasn't part of an elite class so
had connections to it. So that already changes the game,
because at the end of the day, you know, the
United States will always there's not It's it's hard to
say it's always moving consistently in one direction on an
issue unless it's taxes. That's the only thing I can
really think of. On the other hand, uh, nobody likes

(36:13):
to have their parents called by the teacher. That's always scary. Uh,
So NBS must have been really nervous when he heard
that phone call was happening. Um just locked up more
of his cousins or something. But yeah, just the handling
of you know, the other thing is Joe Biden called
Saudi Arabia a pariah state when he was running for office.

(36:35):
Where's that energy joke? But at the end of the day,
I don't know. But at the same time, name a
single U S president that really fucking puffed their chest
up at Saudi Arabia. You know, it's it's a whole
other thing. And you know, in our relationship to Iran
was similar, but ship changed because when they're when the
shop uh you know, was fell out of power, and

(36:55):
now we had someone in like anti American theo, like
a theocratic class move into power, then that immediately shifted relationship.
And I think that's the thing that the Biden administration
says out loud, Well, we don't want to say, we
don't want get too hot because we need them there
because then if they totally turn anti America, then it's
going to be some kind of a very similar thing
that's played out with other quote unquote allies in the region.

(37:17):
Right put it simply, you know, the US has three,
like not many options. When it comes to saud Arabia,
they either go they say okay, we're done here sanctions
that is going to completely push them away, and now
you have a country that used to be this place
that you could launch all your scary war machines from
to scare the other people in the region from that's gone,

(37:37):
and then you turn that into an enemy. The other
is just to do what has been happening, which is
to just look the other way and be like, well,
thanks for the half past collaboration on some like anti
terror stuff we do. And then also, i mean think
about it, like they didn't say anything after nine eleven. Yeah,
I mean it's like if you just lookury history of

(37:58):
that relationship at pretty pretty wild. It's the same thing
like when it comes to those strategic allies and just
these partners, we have the same thing. Like in Israel
in twos an American national was there was died of
a sum as the UN called it a summary execution.
We're being part of a flotilla to help like refugees,

(38:20):
but again that didn't I don't think there's a single
person unless you're really interested in this area of of
like the world that would that would have heard that
in the US because that's the other part, because it's
all like the other things, all tied to capital, so
it's all fun up right. Um well, speaking of all
fucked up sepack happened last weekend. Uh, Trump had his

(38:44):
if his going on on the phone on Fox News
for a whole evening talking about the legacy of Rush
Limbaugh didn't count as his official coming out coming back
into the media spotlight. This certainly did. He had the
keynote or like the final climactic speech at Speck, and

(39:06):
you know, the next morning, Monday morning, barely on the
front page of Fox News or Drudge. I don't know, Like,
I think part of the problem for him is that
he doesn't have any new messaging, like because personally, like
he can't he can't move on from losing the election
and that can't move on from Hillary, yeah exactly. Uh.

(39:28):
And also not having Twitter. Yeah, you know, just just
night and day after that one like one action that
also could have happened a really long time ago. But
that's and I think it's like that there does seem
to be a movement on in terms of like people
he gotta he's still at job approval with the attendees

(39:52):
of Speck, but only sixty eight percent said they want
him to run again in even though he basically announced
he was going to during his speech and also announced
that he's staying with the Republican Party. But I just
don't think I think there's some movement in this, like
as it becomes more and more of an accepted reality

(40:12):
that he lost, uh, and you can't really there's no
evidence that there was cheating, like even now like Newsmax
can't even say that the voting machines were were rigged.
So it's like, I just think he's playing a weaker
and weaker hand as as long as he stays on
this current note, which I don't know if his uh

(40:36):
sucking like whole where his you know, sense of self goes,
is going to allow him to move on from an
l like that. So I just they have some kind
of agreement, you know, for him to say I'm staying
with the party sounds like something I would have negotiated
if I was the RNC, you know what I mean,

(40:58):
And like what the terms of that is, which is okay,
we'll continue to try and fucking protect you, um, but
like just stop saying wild ship because the other thing
too is like out of seapack. There were a few
different you like Rick Scott, who I was surprised at
Center of Florida. He was like, Biden one, fair and square. Uh,
just so we know, I'm just gonna say that out
loud here at sea pack. But then there are other

(41:19):
Republican politicians too, were saying like we're we're past Trump, Like, yes,
he's part of the Republican Party, but the party can't anymore,
no longer be about one person because that actually affects
the ability of every other candidate to be elected. And
I think maybe that's like the one thing they're taking
from this is just like just we got to allow

(41:40):
the party to be amorphous enough that their first thing
isn't it's whatever Donald Trump is, because that's their that's
their that's their brand issue at the moment. And of
course there's like a lot of talk of splitting the
party now, which feels like such a reality. It's so
hard for me to imagine i mean, a Trump ever
winning again, but be just sort of like maybe I

(42:00):
shouldn't say that because that's like some ship, but I
don't know. It just feels like I don't. I I
don't see a pathway to success. I mean, do you
guys agree with that? Or do you think I'm being naive?
I think it's hard to see right now. But he's
I think he's still the most dangerous candidate on either

(42:20):
side because he's got this massive base that is impervious
to pulling and fats and he's the he's now the
default candidate who gets to benefit from the anyone but
the guy in office, uh vote. And I feel like
that's a scary world because he has such massive name

(42:43):
recognition um and all he has to do is like
find new talking points, and like, I feel like we're
at a very low tied moment right now because he
has been unable to move on from losing, and everybody
knows he lawin so he just looks kind of ridiculous.

(43:03):
But to to again to only like yeah, yeah, but yeah,
I don't know, you know, I I can I will
never say never when when it comes to him and
his plan, he's going to cause a lot more problems,
you know, Like there there's a lot more potential I
think for violence and sort of like commanding different actions

(43:26):
because it's like, you know, it's like cognitive dissonance. People
are never going to give up. I mean people do,
but the hardcore ones, it would cause so much distress
to try to change that stance after, you know, the
last five years of their lives being dedicated to this
charismatic leader. It's it's really really hard. But that we
saw him lose by so much, it would be really

(43:47):
like you said, he'd have to revise talking points, but
it would it would all hinge again on like you said,
like not Hillary or not Joe Biden. But I don't.
I just don't see it unless there's some bombshell. But
you know, Hillary was just so there's so much tied
in with her, and Biden is just kind of like
you know, yeah, yeah, I think the one thing is SPA.

(44:11):
They definitely the masks are all gone. Now they're all gone.
They have no masks anymore. The State times a fucking
Nazi room, yeah, or one of those rude symbols that think, right,
there's no other explace there are another actions. How many

(44:33):
people did that pass through? Yeah, it doesn't I'll say this,
It doesn't matter what they intended or didn't and if
that was an accident, because run Nazi stage or not,
They're They're entire schedule and speaking events were filled with
anti democratic want to be autocracy, like how do we
fuck over our Essentially you distill it down like how

(44:54):
do we win elections when we can't win elections? Or
like how do wig wig elections? Because all the clock
is ticking and if we're gonna be a part of this,
we're gonna have to switch our entire system of governance
in this country for us to be able to have
a shot at ruling. So with that, democrats really need
to be like, oh I saw that over the weekend, assholes,

(45:15):
and I'm not dealing with any of y'all were This
is just so you know that if I mean, this
is a quote unquote representative democracy, but if you have
one party who's out to be like, oh yeah, we're
we're the we're here for not this, like we're actually
here to try and nickel and dime the local constitutions
and laws for it to be essentially this minority ruled

(45:37):
autocracy or whatever. Whose president you gotta fucking deal with
them like that rather than being like, oh, you know,
I'm sure it's just there. There's a lot. There's a
lot going on on that side. It's like, no, dude, there,
this is what it is, So now you have to
actually address the threat properly. Yeah. The one messaging that
seemed to be consistent top to bottom was like trying

(46:00):
to fight back against mail in voting and uh, only
sick people or people like, hey, you have to go
through all these steps to legally vote by mail, which
you know obviously benefits the Republican Party, um, which is why.
But they don't want people to jump through hoops to

(46:20):
buy a gun, right yeah, yeah, oh that's too much.
That's too much. But if you vote, we all look,
we can all agree you need to be able bodied, uh,
be able to walk, have a job that will let
you off that the like. No, but that's how that's
how so transparent this ship is. And I wish the
like everyone who is responsible for like reporting it like

(46:42):
on a massive scale, and then a leadership level would
be like, we have to really talk about what this
is objectively and they can go and try and part
like mince their words and ship like what we're looking
at is this, this is what it is. There's a
legacy of this. This is not new, this is it's
been every voting has been an issue in every civil

(47:05):
rights movement, even if it's like quiet, right, it's been,
it's always been. Why wouldn't it be a focal point
and why wouldn't it be something that is an obsession
because it is the expression of the people which can
be manipulated and has been since and before probably you know,
with with landowners and all that bullshit. But like, it's

(47:26):
not I just don't think it's it's not surprising, and
it's just as everything is is just now quiet and
insidious and not quite so loud as it maybe was before.
But I don't know, I feel like it's it is louder,
right because like you feel like the vote Civil Rights
Act in sixty four, like that helped white people be like, okay,

(47:47):
we have to deracialize a lot of star racism because
that didn't work. You see what happened? Do we overplayed
that hand and now they have more rights than we
wanted them to have, so that a lot of school choice,
ship and all this other stuff started coming out because
they couldn't. They had they had to let go of
those words. They've now fully like it's like they're coming
back around to it in like a very less elegant

(48:08):
way where it's like the most charged dog whistle language
that like at least school choice might confuse somebody, right,
you know what I mean, because it sounds like freedom, Yeah, exactly.
But the other ship that they're saying is so like
on on its nose. You're like, are y'all even try
like have you learned or you're just being like this
is now they've completely are like no, we're just relying

(48:30):
on our worst habits and instincts now, and that's all this,
that's all it was too, but now in a way
that we don't even know how to finesse appearing in public. Yeah,
I mean dog whistling from a stage that looks like
a Nazi ruin whistling, Right, it's kind of dog even
with like school choice, like you said, that is such

(48:51):
a dog whistle of tax exemption like back to And
it's just so weird how we don't talk about the
moral majority and the fact that like abortion was like
a created, manufactured period, like it was a manufactured outrage.
Evangelicals didn't care. In fact, they more supported it because
they hated Catholics. But it was like, you know, it
was the tax exemption was they didn't want to desegregate

(49:15):
their schools, but they didn't want to lose their tax exemption.
So they were able to mobilize a conservative Christian vote
for the first time in a really long time through abortion.
But it was all hiding the fact that they wanted
to not have to desegregate their schools. And this is
in the seventies eighties, and that's hidden. It's a hidden thing,
and it's covered by school choice, tax exemption, religious freedom,

(49:38):
all these sort of things that we still hear, but
that used to be an issue of segregation. And like
Bob Jones University, you couldn't date interracially until the year
two thousand and they still kept their tax exemption. They
used Reagan to try to do what I mean, this
is like it's not the same thing as voting, but
it's like we're talking about it's like these dog whistles
have such history and you may not know it, but
it still can like trigger. He's sort of like ingrained

(50:02):
dis ingrained ship. We all have the Boston the desaggregation
of Boston public schools and the just incredible amounts of
rioting and violence and just open war in the streets
that happened around that is one of those stories that
everybody should go read if you haven't, um, because it's

(50:22):
like one of those ones where I heard it in
my thirties and I was like that, how is this
one of the how is this not one of like
an entire section of US history? But it's because it
deal and they like to. Yeah, any anything that makes
that issue at the forefront of US history they liked.

(50:44):
It's just so uncomfortable. It just makes me so uncomfortable. Yeah, alright,
let's take one more break and we'll be right back.
And we're back. Uh, And I wanna talk about to

(51:06):
pop culture icons that are being challenged by Republicans and
Democrats on the From the Republican side, Donald Trump Jr.
Is mad, He is t owed man. Uh. The Muppets
have now this is a quote from him, The Muppets

(51:27):
have now been canceled. Apparently the Muppets have now been canceled.
There's nothing these psychos won't destroy. Liberalism is a disease
the and then he reiterated that over the weekend at
sepack Um. This is all based around a disclaimer. Brief

(51:51):
disclaimer that has been added to the beginning of some
of the episodes of The Muppet Show that was just
added to Disney Plus because some of them have extremely
racist puppet characters that are still in the shild that's
what you're saying about. They said, hey, y'all, were there's
some wild as racist puppets in here. We're sorry, just

(52:13):
so you know, And he's like that that equals cancelation somehow,
that exactly. But that's true. Awareness equals cancelation, awareness accountability,
because it's not canceled, it's accountability. That's what it is.
It's so black and white to them. It's like something's
either got to bad, period. So it's like if there's
a critique, then it's as if it is entirely bad

(52:35):
versus just like here's a bad thing. Here's you know,
the Muppets saying we're sorry about this. This isn't good.
But it's still even on there, which whatever you can
say about that, but I you know, it's still they're
giving sort of an acknowledgement and it's just whatever, guys,
such a fucking doink. Yeah, but I mean it's across

(52:56):
the board. Also sorry. One episode features Johnny Cash perform
in front of a giant Confederate flag, and they left
that in there. They're disclaimer. These stereotypes were wrong then
and are wrong now. Rather then remove this content, we
want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learned from it, and
sparked conversation to create a more inclusive future together. Um.

(53:18):
Fox just uh latched onto this non story, using it
as yet more evidence of cancel culture. One of the
hosts on Fox and Friends that I don't remember the
Muppets ever being offensive. Here we are again with cancel culture. Uh.
And in an interview with Tom Cotton, they asked him

(53:40):
about it, because why ask a sitting US senator a
nonpuppet based question in the middle of the pandemic um
and the the amazing thing I write. Jam points out
that if anyone's been trying to cancel the Muppets, it's conservatives,
like for a long time. Uh. When their newest movie,

(54:03):
The Muppets came out in eleven, Fox News aired the
segment are liberals trying to brainwash your kids against capitalism?
Because the villain of the Muppets was a sleazy oil
executive creatively named text Richmond. Um. But uh yeah. One
of the hosts of on Fox questioned why the filmmakers

(54:26):
couldn't simply have made the villain be someone from the
Obama administration and I quote, I just wish liberals could
leave little kids alone. Why couldn't the muppets have the
evil person be the Obama administration? So the entire Obama administration.
Then in two thousand fifteen, Uh, this was a real

(54:47):
headline on Breitbart, Miss Piggy comes out as pro abortion.
This was because Miss Piggy was given an award for
some reason, and when asked if she was pro choice,
she responded, I am pro everything, which again not really
a program like it's yeah, it's uh, that's that's the
most both sides the ship, you could say, Miss Piggy, yea.

(55:08):
And with everybody, every but the one million moms. I
can'tnot believe they still exist. I didn't know that. Yeah,
they launched a boycott of the Puppets ABC show, which
was more adult oriented, But I mean, come on, um,
so it's double standard. Yeah, find a new angle, asshole. Uh,

(55:32):
well you know that Sesame Street. Obviously, we we did
an episode called Children's Programming about public education in Sesame
Street was super Jim Henson obviously influenced and it was
just a bunch of radical people getting together to try
to make uh television specifically for children of color to
see some reflection of their own experiences. And it was

(55:54):
really radical. And there were things called like hidden curriculum,
like there were black psychologists working on this show to
sort of just give like just a little bit back
to to two children who weren't white. And uh, it
was huge. It was outrageous. I mean there was the
pushback was enormous. It was banned in different states literally

(56:14):
because they said things like Mississippi is not ready for
this diverse of a cast. So it's like, I know
it's not the Muppets, but it's Muppets adjacent, so it's
just like, yeah, it's just uh there the Muppets. Jim
Henson was always I mean he's a hippie. You know,
he was always and you know he's always been kind
of an anti capitalist and anti whatever, pro everything, yeah,

(56:39):
not pro everything, Yeah, you don't say that. No. Uh.
And finally, uh, while we have you, Chelsea, I do
want to talk about this latest video game Panic, which
seems like it's a headline from ten years before this

(57:00):
show started. Um but an Illinois Democrat wants to fight
crime with a video game. Band which video game? You
may ask Grand Theft Auto? Of course, Okay, the Grand
Theft Auto come back in some way like did it
become mobile? So it's just literally from however many years ago,

(57:21):
we had the same fucking Grand Theft Auto game over
like three consoles now PS three, PS four, and that's
just on PS five. I'm sick of ground. Definitely look
at that motherfucker anymore. I don't know. I've shot down
a lot of helicopters with a lot of launchers and
haven't done that yet. And you get on the train
and they can't catch you because you want to train

(57:41):
tracks and the AI and the cops is stupidest. They
never they can never touch you. Then you can like
borrow yourself in a store and wait in the five
star stitch. Yeah right, and then you're out. What's the
logic though, of why is this person in the year
of our Lord now thinking like we gotta get hold
on Have guys seen Grand Theft Auto. There's been a

(58:02):
rise in car theft and carjacking by the last year,
which uh literally nobody is surprised by because the economy
has completely shipped the bed, and also everybody's wearing masks around.
People are like, yeah, of course, it's like we're honestly
that we could have told you. Yeah. So this is

(58:23):
out of Illinois, where Colonel David Bird of the Illinois
State Police uh blamed it on there's a social media
aspect of it. Uh. He said, kids steel cars and
evade police in order to impress their friends. Presumably there
was like a single instance of that that made the

(58:45):
local news. Uh. And then one of their local politicians said,
this carjacking is something out of a video game, and
that was all he needed to try and propose this bill.
It would include a one dollar fine for those who
sell or rent these games, again proving that it was
designed in two thousand. You can rent these games. I'll

(59:10):
shut down this Blockbuster, I tell you. Yeah. The panic
is such a bipartisan event, you know, it's so and
it's so many times, like Democrats and Republicans, it will
be like the one thing that they unite over is
some kind of moral panic. And h it's like Columbine.
This happened during Columbine, all the shooting video games, and

(59:30):
I mean it's happened every time, every time, every time,
anything bad happens, it's because it's the teens. One. You
can blame the teens, and then you can blame this
thing that actually has nothing to do with it, so
then you don't have to deal with systemic issues. You
can just point to this fucking dumbass thing. It's more
fun to blame, that's for sure. You know, it's like
so much more cinematic than than systemic poverty. Parents are

(59:54):
different things. Parents who are a big part of your
audience or voter base are already the inherently suspicious of
their kids. So you know, I've met enough parents are like,
you know, not enough parents growing up who are like,
just are dying for this sort of ship because exists.
These moral panics are half born out of a you

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don't you actually don't want to address the real issue
of a given thing, And the other one is you're
so out of touch that you just connected the first
dot and you're like, yeah, that's what it was. It's
this game. So you're saying there's a lot of crimes
of grand theft auto, that we're experiencing a lot of
charges of grand theft auto. Yeah, oh my god, there's

(01:00:36):
a game called grand theft auto. That's what we have
to go after the last big grand theft auto release
was Um, they did see an uptick uptick of sales
during the pandemic, but they sold far more games in
previous years in which there was not a surgeon cardjacking.
So there is also a case that's being made that uh,

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this is predominantly like young people doing the car theft
and carjacking. Uh, except it's completely based on just once
again proof proof that the people interpreting crime statistics shouldn't
be the police because they do the the worst job

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of it. Um. So the cops painted this picture of
roving juvenile gangs instagramming their joy rides. But of the
one thousand, four hundred and sixteen carjackings the reported in Chicago,
only one hundred eighty eight people were arrested. A hundred
and six of them were kids. So if you're taking

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that as a overall sample of all d carjackings, uh,
you would have some evidence. But it could be that
kids aren't as good at car theft and are more
likely to post it on social media. Maybe uh this
like a time Yes, yeah, they're just getting popped the

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first time, right, and then you learn after that one.
But like the idea too of just trying to be
like they're doing it to be on Instagram, like these
are crimes of swag, not crimes of survival. Nobody steals
a fucking car for the thrill. I mean, I guess
maybe they just watch New Jersey Drive or bad movie
from the nineties or some ship. But like there's you

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do it because you need to make money, and that's
how you're going to make money, because you're For many people,
you're only financial recourse is extra legal activity because there
are no there's no way for you to survive anymore.
But let's not talk about what the options are for
these people. Let's say these teams are throwing on a
filter to look like a little kitty cat and then

(01:02:47):
taking your tesla. It's just it's out of control. To
your point, was another thing besides Grand Theft auto sales
UH that have gone up in the last year, which
again Grand Theft auto sales picked up a little bit,
not UH didn't sell as many copies as previous years. UH.
On the other hand, unemployment in Illinois has gone up

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by a whopping six d seventy UH and Illinois's unemployment
offices have been closed for the entire year, meaning people
who lack access to online services or running into technical
problems are pretty much fucked. Um. So yeah, it's just

(01:03:28):
all to avoid a real fucking problem. And I mean
the racial dynamics aside of this story, Like it's it's
so simple. I mean, like you, you don't need to
be a fucking detective to be like, wait, people usually
people steal because you don't have. Oh, there's an uptake
uptick in people who don't have That's probably what is.

(01:03:50):
And also grand theft auto. Trust me, the people who
bought that it's motherfucker's like me who got suckered into
buying it for the fucking third time. It's not new
people of getting into grant that auto. It's like, funk,
I don't have it on this console. I guess I
gotta give rock Star more fucking money for this game.
That's I mean. I would love to see the statistic
on the number of newcomers to g T A five

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uh in those numbers, but that's more of a gamer
statistic I would like to see. Yeah, and this is
exactly what happened with UH with as I mentioned, like
Columbine and in the school shootings into this last decade
is the exact same thing. It was the shooting video games,
and that was you know, so we didn't have to
deal with guns, and that was Democrats and Republicans. It's

(01:04:33):
just this way to have a flashy, you know, sleight
of hand. I think of it as a sleight of hand.
And I don't know how intentional it is or how
much these people are just you know, fucking stupid and
totally out of touch, like you said, and how much
of it could be not I don't want to say
a conspiracy, but you know, I think there's something to that.
And especially when you're trying to get reelected, your platform

(01:04:55):
is going to be a lot more flashy and interesting
to people if the story is you know, the teens
aren't all right, versus we have massive unemployment and poverty.
It's not I'm surprised Republicans didn't blame the uprisings on
NBA two K like that by that logic talking about
like look at the problem also at like you know,

(01:05:16):
it's tops we have too many these assholes. We're not
there to actually change outcomes for people. They're just there
to win office and stay in office and that's it.
That's it. I mean, this is an example of somebody
being bad at uh showing the like politically, you know,
shrewd and calculating thing. Uh. And but I think there's

(01:05:37):
plenty of examples that we're not talking about because they
don't necessarily cross our radar and such a don't like
splat against our radar the way this one would. Uh.
But yeah, I mean it's this seems to be a
good uh indicator of what the underlying logic is in
in Congress. Definitely, Chelsea. It has been such a pleasure

(01:06:01):
having you as always being on. Thank you guys. It's
so much fun. Where can people find you and follow you? Well,
you can go and listen to our show American Hysteria
on pretty much any podcast app, or you can follow
us at a mayor Hysteria on Twitter or American Hysteria
Podcast on Instagram. And is there a tweet or some

(01:06:24):
of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Well,
you know, I kind of buried the lead, but I
think just for me it was Oreos trands people exist.
I just I just want to say, think, when was
that so brave? UM? Got a few days ago, I
don't know. It was like during the potato folks coming
out as as trans um. But that's that's just been

(01:06:48):
a memorable, memorable one for me. M Yeah, I remember that.
I think that was right after their tweet about Fred
Hampton Jr. Yeah exactly. Yeah, they're like, and you imagine though,
why is it that when they connect poor people of
color and poor white people, think outcomes change for these
civil rights leaders anyway? Get the new double stuffed orioles. Yeah,

(01:07:09):
that's a that's some people do not want anybody to know,
which is odd because like you could just be like, hi,
everything the people that got never every The way the
way we win is together our new our new rainbow
coalition OREO where you open it up and it's a rainbow.
Oh my god, just it's coming. Don't tell them the words. Miles,

(01:07:37):
Where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?
Oh Man Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Gray also other podcast
for twey day fiance we were chatting ninety day. Uh
tweet I like from Reductress because it's just so absurd,
but somehow, like I it's resonating with me. Uh. It's
a photo of like to two people talking. One person

(01:07:58):
is just like sort of clearly listening to the other speak,
but was sort of like a like vacant eyes, and
the text reads how to pretend you were listening by answering,
hey Marca Reina in a neutral tone, Hey Marcarina, Hey
can you believe that ship? Jack? Hey Macarina? Okay, yeah, yeah,

(01:08:22):
I knew you, I knew you're on my side. Hey Macarana,
I mean, hey Macarina, I want I once I was
caught by my friends way too late after that song
was no longer cool, just very drunk on a dance
floor doing the macarino Um. Was not my proudest moment.

(01:08:43):
Hey Macarina, Hey Macarina. Indeed, Marcarina, you can find me
on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien a couple of tweets
I've been enjoying. Aaron Chack tweeted, yeah, the moon is
full full of shit. Um, it was a very nice,
full moment. Over the weekend, shout out to the moviment um,

(01:09:05):
and Mike Kin tweeted it would be crazy if every
oncoming headlight you saw in the freeway was its own
person with their own life. But thank god that's not
the case. Uh. Find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
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(01:09:28):
we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we recommend you check out. Miles,
what song are people checking out today? Oh, they're gonna
check out Look. You need some you need some good drumming.
You want some naia being the drumming. Uh, if you

(01:09:50):
really funk with the reggae sounds, get into that. But
this track is called Lamb's Bread Collie and it's Lamb's
l A MBS bread v r e A d Collie
c L l I E like colleague pug uh and
the the artist is Cedric I'm Brooks and the Light
of Saba and it's just like look I was that
was saying off, Mike. I got some musical equipment. I've

(01:10:11):
been going through some old records and things and you
don't want to sample. I was really looking at This
album is great because it's got a lot of deep
grooves in it um. But this is for anybody who
just you know, needs a little heavy, heavy sound to
start your week. This will help you, but also you know,
very enlightened. All right. Well, The Daily Ze Guy's a
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