Merkin’ America Great Again, Prince Andrew Pays Ultimate Price 10.21.25

In episode 1950, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of The Worst Idea of All Time, Tim Batt, to discuss… Prince Andrew Agrees To Give Up Royal Titles, Kim K Is The Thomas Edison Of Our Time - Merkin Edition, Who Is The Real World Christmas Adventurers Club? And More!

1. Prince Andrew gives up royal titles including Duke of York after ‘discussion with king’
2. Jeffrey Epstein survivor Virginia Giuffre, in her own words
3. Met Police looking into claims Andrew sought information on accuser
4. Kim K Is The Thomas Edison Of Our Time - Merkin Edition
5. An Antifascist Movie at a Fascist Moment
6. How P.T. Anderson Channeled Thomas Pynchon’s Preoccupations for ‘One Battle After Another’
7. ‘One Battle After Another’ and ‘Vineland’— What Paul Thomas Anderson Used and Cut Out of Thomas Pynchon’s Novel
8. The John Birch Society Is Back
9. Did the John Birch Society Win in the End?
10. Masonic Symbolism in PTA Movies
11. ABUNDANCE OF SYMBOLS IN `MAGNOLIA’ HAS FILMGOERS LOOKING FOR CLUES
12. How do people think the Christmas Adventurers Club are absurd when Bohemian Grove actually exists
13. Clarence Thomas and Bohemian Grove: What goes on at the all-male club?
14. Inside Bohemian Grove
15. Redwoods Hideaway for the Elite Goes On, but Protest Days Fade
16. Bohemian Grove annual event is underway in the Bay Area, per the FAA
17. Billionaire at Bohemian Grove told staff to clean his underwear by hand, lawsuit says
18. Berkeley Law School Drops Boalt Name Over Racist Legacy
19. Chinese Exclusion Act
20. The Bohemian minstrel show
21. The Bohemian Grove: Symbolism Behind the Owl and Cremation of Care

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Is there a popsicle that's called whimsical?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
That just occurred to me? Oh? Like if not?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
We need that business like a like a one that
that's organic, you know, and and for like hipsters who
love whimsy the whimsical.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I feel like this could work. I feel like we
I feel like we.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Just stumbled organic non gmo like orange juice frozen onto it.
There you go, a stick that's made of reclaimed wood.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It was my first culinary achievement was orange juice popsicles.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
You should get this on shock tank. It missed a wonderful.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Whimsical the whimsical sharks. I bring to you the whimsical. Yes?
Or isn't there a whim cycle? Couldn't that be a
bicycle too?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Now we're talking.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's a family should be called cycle. Oh it's a
whim cycle.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four to eleven,
Episode two of Dead Elly's Like Guys, where We Give
you the Info? Is that what four eleven is the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
The four to one one hell you called Get a
Little Info. It's a production of iHeart Radio's podcast We
take a deep dive into American share consciousness. And it's Twoday,
October twenty first, twenty five. Ye, that seems wrong, that's
too that's too deep into it.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Twenty one good buddy. I felt like I was saying
ten ten to eight, good bus shit like that just
a week ago or some shit, I know, but it
was ten twenty one. It's the damn passage of time.
It's National Apple Day. Damn passage of time.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
That could be the answer for literally every every passage.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's what happened. It's this damn passage of time. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Let's see. It's also Back to the Future Day, because
I guess that's was the where was it? Ten fifteen
was the only time Doc Marty and Jennifer would travel
into the future. Okay, so it's the significant day for

(02:14):
all of us that celebrate their religion. Back to the future.
It's National witch Handle, your.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Anniversary of when they first got here and saw that
we had invented three D movies that come out of
buildings and it just flying car.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wasn't it Joels? That was Joels? Is it Joels fourteen
or something? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also a nationally
Pharmacy National Pharmacy Tech Day, National Reptile Awareness Day. I'm aware,
don't worry.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah, and national I think that's actually about that.
I think that's about making sure reptiles are aware.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Hey, hey, you are right, you're.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Sure your reptiles are fucking awake. Get them on a
warm rock.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
It just fell out of a tree branch. My guy,
are you okay? You're fucking with benzos again?

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Young?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Those Z bills Z drugs men.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
All right, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien,
and shout out to our Irish listeners. Probably offended by
my fake Irish accent, but.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh it sounds like you know Ireland, the Irish fans
are out there. No it wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't
commenting on your questionable No, that's bad. That accent is bad.
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Also shout out to this lazy Mosley over there and
Zeke Gang Irish. That gang came up and talked to her.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's like I know about you through the Daily Zeitgeist,
and I was like, they know about us before you, Lacey.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, surely not, surely not this outside of the country.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm thrilled to be joined. As always buy my co host,
mister Miles Grass.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Miles Cray k drug fires that kill babies. Before that,
there's masshooting, Capital.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
City, Washing d C. This deadly crime.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
All thanks Illy Eagles, and a shout out to Benny Johnson,
one of the top propagandists right now in the administration,
who was trying to say that, yes, the FEDS need
to invade the nation's capital because one time.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
My infant nearly died in a drug fire after mass
shootings and we still don't know how that sequence of
events unfolded exactly, but we do know what it means
kind of a lord to even picture in your brain. Yeah,
that's the thing about a lie is they don't stand
up to just basic scrutiny.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Mostly some of the times not so not so much, Miles.
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
one of our favorites, a multiple award winning comedian, podcaster,
producer who co hosts the podcast The Worst Idea of
All Time with Guy Montgomery. He's a very funny chat
show host. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious and

(04:50):
talented Tim b.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
What's up, Fat Knockers?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
How dare you the one in soul you're speaking about
to the future. You know how he can't take being
called chicken. Chicken like freaks out every time. I cannot
be I cannot take being called fart knocker, because again,
I just don't know what to picture in my mind.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't is it a door.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Knocker, No, it's I feel like it's a fat halfa
that you've come up with a different weird to sort
of disguise in trouble as much like I don't know
what it means, Like I know what it means.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
It means you have five you have freak.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's the freaky thing you're up to.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Handle.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's too close to the truth, to the truth I've got.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I've got a bag full of farts over here, Just
an air tight bag full of fart into a bag
and close it up, take it with you to go.
I'm about to not now that you mention it. I
think I had that idea when I was a kid,
but didn't have the the follow through to actually do it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I promised myself as soon
as I turned forty, I was having to really knock
stuff off my bucket. List, So I did that last year.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So you were indeed a fart knocker knocking the into
a bag off of a bucket list.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was more of a Fartsamelia. I like to yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Chap Ryan's next single at.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
What's good, Tim, how are you doing? Do us all
the way from New zeal.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Still here, still going strong, we still exist, defying economic headwinds,
We're still doing it. It kind of is fitting that
it's back to the future that because I'm in your
guys future time wise, and I feel it's I don't know,
it's crazy hearing you guys talk sometimes at that at
the outset at the intro of the episode, because you're American,

(06:46):
your high energy. It's early in the morning and I
am slip deprived from having two little kiddies. It's it's
like interfacing with another realm of existence. Whe everyone's getting
adequate sleep and like what the accents? It's like, oh, ship,
that's right, there are people out there doing it, doing
the damn thing.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's you got.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like Tim really likes my Irish accent Miles based.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
On the offensive bet was potato for me and someone
with Irish heritage, you know, my my mom proudly states
that we had family members who were hiding members of
the IRA and the attic.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah his house, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
The potatoes O'Brien is in fact a dish that I
came up with. No, it's a it's an actual dish
that you can, like, go to your local grocery store
and in the frozen food asle there is a bag
that says potatoes O'Brien on it.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And at the risk of the railing, the whole show watches.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Potatoes, onions and pel pepper. Yeah okay, yeah, also called
home fries in many places. But they were like, how
do we make this a little bit offensive to the Irish?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Very cool?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's very cool there, it is, uh, Tim, We're thrilled
to have you here. We're gonna get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
tell the listeners a couple of the stories that we're
talking about today. If they can even listen to this.
Because the internet is apparently down. Amazon Web Services is down,
We're not going to really be talking about that, but
I am just now I think they've got it back online.

(08:24):
I couldn't played fucking.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Roadblocks this morning.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's fucking terrible, man, dude, That's why I have all
this pent up energy. I will didn't get on roadblocks
and fucking yell.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, when I am robo tripping, we're going to talk
about Prince Andrew, who still named Prince Andrew but no
longer will be using the Duke of York title because
of his alleged sex crimes. Potentially this is related to
the fact that the posthumous memoir by the Prince's victim,

(09:01):
Virginia Jeffrey, is coming out on Tuesday, and it was
recently exerted in The Guardian and is heroic based off
that excerpt alone. Yes, it's like Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke
of Nope, Nope, nope, no more. Oh yeah, Duke of York.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
What are we doing out here? And meanwhile, and in
the United States, Mike Johnson continues to delay confirming or
swearing in a member of Congress to avoid releasing the
Epstein files. H it feels like it's I don't know,
sounds like they're approaching being cornered a little bit, even
more intensely for people.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Who must have known that they were in these files.
Like everybody's really bad at They're just like I I
vigorously deny this, but because people keep saying I did
bad stuff, I guess I guess I'm gonna do it.
And like with Trump just being like, what's what?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Epstein? What?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Even mean? Hear about that?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
The financier. It's like the Jim Downey.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I saw a funny bit of stand up online and
I am said that I can't credit who's joke this was,
but there was a guy who was like, do you
know how I know Trump was involved? He has never
mispronounced Julane Maxwell. He's sailed past this silent every single time.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I remember when we first saw her, like jiz Laine. Yeah, yeah,
it's actually Gilan, Yeah, correcting reporters.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
The first thing. He's never mispronounced.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I've never met the woman before he did.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I do remember him when it was first, like coming
up and being like, I don't really know her, but
I really wish her well. Yeah, uh like you like
you do with.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Was that kind hearted soul? We know that's about your
good horror, he is a benevolent man.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
We'll talk about Kim Kardashian being miles like you put
this well. The Thomas Edison of our time when it
comes to face sleeves and now Murkins.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But she just invented them. I like the way she
I don't know least based on this like variety snippet.
It sounds like she had never heard of American until
she thought it up. And in that way, I salute
the great minds of our time.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's all our best billionaires. That's what they do, can
you know, I mean like Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, we'll get it. We'll get into it. We'll get
into it. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Anyway, we'll talk about that and then we'll talk about
in the In the Paul Thomas Anderson film One Battle
after Another, he posits this wacky idea that there is
a secret all male, white supremacist organization controlling the government
called the Christmas Adventurers Club, that I've had a role

(11:50):
in shaping history in shadowy rooms, behind the scenes, and
we're gonna just ask where do you get crazy idea
like that?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
WHOA what this guy's brain?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know, what does he come up with?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
This stuff?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Turns out history. It turns out the question is not
whether or not there's a real world Christmas adventures Club,
but just which of several groups inspired it. There is
one that I think uh is the best candidate, and
we'll get to that in our third act. But first, Chris, First, Tim,

(12:24):
we do like to ask I was still a Christmas
Adventures club on my brain? Tim, We do like to
ask our guest, what is something from your search history?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
So I switched the Viva X three hundred bitches a
cell phone. I'm with getting a cell phone that will
actually like fit my hands. Fund's too big now, jeans?
Oh yeah, too big now to now? P two b Yeah, Jake,
you strike me as a dude who to have big hands.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I'll get you.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, I told.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
You that pretty normally. Jack, put a ruler between your
thumb and your pinky. You don't want to see that
that distance between the tip of the summit that's beIN
nasty twelve inches.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I am six foot I'm like six foot six.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
What about you, Miles? What are you rocking?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
One? Seeks one? Maybe Seeks two? You're sending on my shoes? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
You you in person? You come off a six two.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Thanks? Thanks?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Based on how ball you are?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Mainly based on that thing and the convenience store by
the door that measures your height. If you're running out
of the store. Yeah, wait, so you got your What
I mean, the thing that I hate, mostly because I
have big thighs, is I putting a phone in my pocket.
It's just like it renders the pocket useless. And also
everyone's like, what do you got in your pocket? Like
it's a phone obviously.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Because funds are too big now you see, Yeah, we
need to get back to like funds that you can
actually get your thumb round the whole scrap. I bought
such an expensive phone for the stupidest reasons, so I've
got one of those sam sunfolding funds.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
You've come on and talked about the superiority of android
phones versus iPhones before I.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Would have been dragged, kicking and screaming into that conversation
because the amount of comedian friends I have in New
Zealand who have mocked me relentlessly about being an android
guy over the years.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I can't tell you that's the most bollying I've received
in my life.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
It is. It is like the most ubiquitous form of
discrimination around the world. I feel like, dude, the fuck
I think there's something wrong with your iPhone? You how
old is your iPhone? Don't send it as SMS.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So I got the fold sex, which everyone hates because
when you fold it up that it's really skinny. But
I'm like, this is what I want. I want a
real skinn one because I can get my thumb around
the whole phone. Now, you look uncomfortable with that in
your hands, right.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
It looks kind of big.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
That it's thick. But it looks thick. She's a thick boy.
But that's because you folded a phone in Twain?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Do you use do you actually use the do you
unfold it? Dude?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Literally for one thing only, and it's to use it
as a kindle.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Wow, Okay, But the thing that's missing on it is
it doesn't have good cameras. And I really, you know,
like my kids growing up, I want to be able
to take good snaps quickly. I don't want to carry
around like a proper freaking camera with me.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm not going to do that. I want a phone
with a good camera.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
So there's all these the Chinese cell phone brands they
like they bring out these awesome phones that very really
get released internationally.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
But this finally one that looks like it could be
a good little phone.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
That's got really good cameras on it, So I want
to buy that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's the shout Out.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
It's the Vivo X three hundred wants to me, Vivo
give me money for this.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I want to. I feel like, yeah, I really want
to get a dumb phone. It's I'm the closer and
closer I guess, the more and more news that I'm
trying to escape from because I already have to look
at the news all the time. I just want a
phone that's like, if you need to reach me, you
can text me. If I need to take a photo,
I can do that. Otherwise it's for just.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
One brief moment if I may like.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Because you guys really have to stay on top of
everything all the time, how disciplined did you putting your
devices down at any point?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
You'll like terrible, terrible. I tape it to my head
at night. I wish I could quit this fucking thing now.
I mean, I really I've since probably around I'm trying
to think when did it really kind of get hairy?
Maybe like January sixth ok Now, covid was Harry, but

(16:40):
like Jay, once we started.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Being like, oh, we're really not doing anything about anything
in this country, are we Yeah, uh, and everything starting
to get more brazen. I definitely have given myself the
when at night, no need to look at the news
because I'm going to wake up and I'm going to
consume every single thing that's happened overnight. So I've I've
definitely I'm still on my phone, but I don't look
at news after like three pm.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay, it's okay, three pm.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's pretty good, I'd say, Simil like I, yes, because
we've had to do this for so long. Yeah, got
ten years to a place where I have.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
An ability to like kind of regulate it.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But it is an active regulation. It's not a thing
where I'm like today I ended up spending three hours
scrolling Twitter. You know, I just I have to put
it down consciously. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I remember that when I stopped working in radio, and
it was like such a relief that I didn't know
I've kind of never returned because I was a bit
of a news junkie. You just kind of have to
be a little bit and then God, it was such
a relief getting out of there. So anyway, praying for
you boys and your beautiful Brians.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Thank you so much. It goes just like a rotten
like a fruit that you open it up and it's
like there's spiders inside.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, patient, fine for a year, a little baby TERRENTI
sorry from.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
The outside, and then the whole family of spiders and
a sneak somehow sneaking in there.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's cohabitating with the spiders. They've gathered for warmth.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I will say the most impressed I've been by
a phone with a camera on a phone has been
a non iPhone. Like I feel like there are some
it's my My sister in law is a lifelong like
she doesn't fuck with iPhones and she takes the best
pictures of like anybody I know and like.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
But they're all big, All the good ones are big,
and I need I need looking and I feel like
we've got the technology now.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
This is what is pissed me off because I I
just feel like all the people making the stuff, they
don't listen to what we want, you know. And it's
it's the same with them putting AI in absolutely fucking everything.
And if nobody wants that ship, all I want is
a little fine that will fit in my hand, that's
got a good camera on it, and I don't need cameras.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
We're not doing too the profit margins on that. Nah, No, no,
we're not doing it. I need to make as much
money as possible on them.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
You would think if they could crush it, that's sale heaps.
But again, maybe I'm just wrong. Maybe it's not what
the people want. Maybe it's what tim want.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well, because I'm sure like from a macro level, it's
like if they emphasize dumb phones, then they lose the
ability to track all of your activity, do you know
what I mean? And really the juice is in seeing
all of your activity and tracking all that shit via
modern day apps and things.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
You know what, though, we got to take some goddamn
personal responsibility because I'm kind of sick of the conversation
going this way where it's like, oh, they can't make
any money off dumb phones. They still exist, we can
still get one, yeaeah.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm saying there's there's no push for it, you know
what I mean, because they're like, well.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
From them, no, but they should be a popular uprising.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
No, I think there totally is young people trying to
you know, stem a health crisis.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Looking at their parents who basically look like fentanyl victims
because they're on their phone twenty three.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Hours a day and going like, you guys have fucked yourself.
So I'm going to get a little motor roll up.
It doesn't have the Internet.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
It's like, yeah, dad, when like the metaphor, was everyone
on their phones basically just droning on yeah hard Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I don't know the name of the smartphone. Mystess her laws.
I will say she had to operate it using a
steady cam device, so it was pretty bick she couldn't
hold it. What is something tim you think is underrated?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Fireworks guys, and I'm sick of hearing otherwise. I like fireworks.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I like them a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's exciting, it's beautiful, and it's kind of one of
the few things that I feel like this citizen. I mean,
over there, you guys got guns, so you know, we
don't need to get into that this episode unless you
want it. But over here in New Zealand, like, we
don't get access to a whole bunch of, you know,
things that explode at the citizen level. And I feel
like there's this one time of the year, which is

(20:49):
around about now, because we've got a mandated legal period
where we can have fireworks over. Our vision of Fourth
of July is guy fawks. I don't know if you
guys know much about that, but a guy does to
blow up British Parliament and I think the eighteenth century,
and now we celebrate his terrorist actions with a fireworks
day of our own. But it roughly, roughly, roughly coincides
with D'wali, which is the Indian festival of lights as well,

(21:10):
and we've got a huge diaspora from India here, so
they go crazy on the fireworks and everyone like this always.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Every year, there has.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Been a conversation for the last twenty five years in
New Zealand that this will be the year they ban
fireworks and it will just be public displays, but you
won't be able to buy them yourself.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I'm in the increasing minority.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
My little group of people go like, man, fuck the docs,
I don't care, fuck the little kids.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I like fireworks. I like that they exist, I like
that we have them.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh yeah, We've talked a lot of fireworks on the show,
basically going back and forth between my I think the
place I've landed is I really like catching a fireworks
show in the wild, Like right if I'm like walking
and oh my god, there's fireworks. It's like atmospheric. But
going to a fireworks show and sitting there with my

(22:00):
kids and just watching it and being.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like, you know, uh.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
In many ways this has a three act structure like
it just it doesn't really where I prefer like. I
do love the fact that in Los Angeles you are
just like on Fourth of July or when the Dodgers
win a particularly big game, like you're driving down the
street and there's just ambient It looks like a boz
Lerman film, Like it's just like going wild. I do

(22:27):
love their use sporadically. Again, that's probably not that safe.
It's a good advice, I will say. Also, based on
what you just said, I didn't know that you could
do a fireworks show without also shooting your guns in
the air. I thought those I thought those two went
hand in hand.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
To believe in yourself, man, it is possible with proven
it there's I mean, I don't you guys?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Do you are there people doing like rogue fireworks in
New Zealand, like in LA where people lie well making shit.
You were like, how did you well, what is what
did you just do?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
What we lack is a vision of I guess like
Mexico effectively, because we are an island nation, so everything
has to be brought in by boat and it's pretty
strictly controlled.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Though.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
When I was a teenager, I was in you know
again and the minority, but not the only one. I
was disassembling fireworks and making bombs out of them and
like make you go and.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
There you getting shit done? Yeah, yeah, little tit Kazynski
on it.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
There's because I remember over the summer Jack and I
were talking about fireworks. I remember I sent you that
one of it was basically like a military munition that
goes off in La. Look, I'll let me just get
this isn't this is what's some ship people are setting
off in La in the summer. This guy, this was
called the Dodger rona Grand Slam. Just the sound of

(23:51):
this is going to be terrifying. Please tech A lessons say,
this is.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
A large baseball firework.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Out of a parking cone on a rock. The guy's
running like forty feet away from it's running around.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Holy shit, it's in the it's airborne. It is screaming
like said missile.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Holy shy.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Of every car alarm within a ten block radius.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
It's like a scud missile.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, not good, not good for the environment. But
when you watch anyby, you go, whoa, I don't know what.
There's something so primal about little bang bangs going off.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
It's the thing. And I I do like reattaching to that,
you know, childlike excitement of single boom.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah. Yeah, for whatever reason, it's like yow wow, I
think I just think I just really harmed an animal.
But it was made the car alarms go. Yeah, I
felt powerful.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right
back here. You're overrated and get into some news.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
And we're back and Tim, we do like to ask
our guest, what is something you think's overread it?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Okay, democracy, but you got to hit me out.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh no, that's fine, No, just cool story, agreed.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, the version that we've got at the moment doesn't
seem to be going great. And I read this thing
online recently and it hasn't left my head since I
read it. There, if you picked out some random people
in the street to be the government, statistically, you would
probably have a better bunch of people running the country
than the people who would you know, ultimately get in

(25:42):
under our current form of democracy.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
And I was like, damn, I wonder if that's right.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
So I've sort of taken to when I'm at a
cafe having a cup of coffee or something, I'll just
look out the window and just sort of see the
next thirty people walking past and be like, and what
what if they were the government would would they do
a better job?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Sort of think there's something to it, because like.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
There is.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
The incentives are set up to gather the most bad
people in a lot of cases, right, I.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Mean it's slightly different New Zealand and America.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think in America you can pretty nakedly say like
it's just attracting some pretty tear it straight up and
down terrible people to the hand up to be part
of that system.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Why do they have so much unending stores of energy
to do their job? Because like they are just fucking
motivated by power, like just having power like coursing through
their veins.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
They're just like I am so fascinated by that, Like
just the fact that because what Trump's like eighty now
right nine? The dude just keeps going, Yeah, and he
doesn't really sleep and he's just he's up all the
time doing shit. But anyway, so I think this idea
of like if you just got random people out of

(26:59):
the elect to run things, because I assaw that there
was a theory that I think got proved out with
Jasinda Ardun who was our prime minister during COVID. Now
our country turned it on your like a fucking dog,
and we effectively chased her out of the country, and
now she lives, I think in New York State teaching
like governance and governments and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
But she was an incredibly begrudging leader who only got
in because the Labor Party in New Zealand like fell
apart immediately before an election, and she kind of got
thrust into the leadership position and then turned out she
was really good and won and kind of shocked everyone.
And I feel like those are the best leaders, the
best leaders.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Of the people who do not want to be there, right,
people who kind of get thrust into it, because the
people who really fucking want it are the least.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
They're the people I want at the bottom of the
list to put right out.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well, I think is like the difference is someone like
Jacinda is probably looking at it is like, this is
an incredibly complex task to keep a government together, a
nation together, provide for them and sort of do what's
best while also balancing all these other things. Whereas like
you know, in your example, someone who's attracted politics in
America is like, yeah, I want to be the most

(28:09):
powerful fucking person to tell people what the fuck to do.
And that's it. Like it's like there's no thinking of like, well,
what do I owe my constituents, what do I owe
the people who I'm representing? No, it's like what do
I fucking owe on my fucking mansion, my yacht bill
or something like.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Genuinely, there is a huge problem now where the job
itself is awful for many reasons, Like you just are
attacked relentlessly in the media because that's sort of the
environment that we've created. The people who you're serving alongside
buying larger are pretty fucking cooked as well. The type
of person who would put their hand up for it,
you know, like they're not good sound of mind. People

(28:47):
like a person who's actually smart and wants a good life,
and even somebody wants to contribute to their country or
society whatever they took. One look at the reality of
being a politician these days, they like fucking nad can
find another way.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I can find another way.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I mean, yeah, that was like my experience with like
lobbying and organizing too was once I saw like the
machine of it all, I was like, oh, oh, then
part of me is like you naive young man, you
really think about it. So we have jury duty in
the United States. Where we go, it's randomly selected, and

(29:23):
the reason like, think about a world where juries are
comprised of people who have been like lobbying their whole life,
like in a jury and it's like that, why though,
like what is your what's your deal? Because their lives hanging,
their lives hanging my hands, and that makes me horny.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Really got my juices flowing about the potential to a
demand's life.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, exactly, It's like, what's your angle?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
This? This is my fifth capital murder case I've been.
You essentially have that with anybody who's the president on purpose.
It's like that's you know, unless you've got a Dave.
The only good president has been Dave from the movie Dave.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, well, this jury judy is the perfect analogy for this.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I guess that's what I'm getting at is that we
should apply that sort of a method.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
To or just to feel the indigenous way of like
leadership of like, no, you're not going to be the
head for the whole the whole year. We're gonna rotate. Yeah. Yeah,
everybody's gonna have a different task and nobody just you
will learn what every function of the society is, and
then when it's your turn, you can operate from that perspective.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Who wants to be the leader? All right, all of
you get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah I like that. All right, you guys wants to
be the president, go all right, throw them away.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I've always felt that my leadership quality get the fuck
out of, Get the fuck out saying something like that, Yeah, yeah,
I think that would be way a very worthy.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Experiment because just a probability game that they're not always
going to be amazing, but on average that will probably
be beta than what we've currently got.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
And the amount of like as we're going to talk
about the amount of like insular like circle jerk policy
that is ruining all of colonial Western civilization is really
is not good. And it seems like it's just the
fact that it's like a group of guys standing around
a fucking bonfire where they also like spank each other

(31:29):
and do weird shit and making decisions that only benefit
them as far as they know. They're also usually wrong, mostly.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Taylor's oldest time man. I know.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Uh, let's get into some news. Let's talk about royal
alleged sex criminal Prince Andrew, who recently announced that he's
given up his royal titles, including his use of do
Do Do Do while vigorously denying the allegations against him,
he still gets to be a prince apparently, that is like,

(32:00):
you can't unprint a prince. That's just that's just if
you are the kid of the royal person. Yeah yeah,
but the Epstein's royal friend claimed that this decision was
made in discussion with the King and my immediate and
wider family, adding that we've we have concluded and continued

(32:24):
the continued accusations against me distract from the work of
his Royal Majesty and the royal family, and then immediately
was like, I vigorously deny, Like yeah, yeah, but so
my titles or the honors which have been conferred upon me.
As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations
against me, So this is all it's it's like a

(32:44):
kid like being, like, I'm giving up all my honors
even though I didn't do anything. It's yeah, okay, So
he's fully and gracefully accepting his punishment.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Good to see a punishment for what that would say,
just maybe some kind of transgression that for distractions.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, can we name check a couple of these things
that he's stepping down from Night Grand Cross of the
Royal Victorian Order and Royal Night Companion of the Most
Noble Order of the Garter.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I mean, we're gonna be getting into the Christmas adventures.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, the fuck on? What is the stuff he has
to give up?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
The Night Grand Cross.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Order, the Noble Order of the Garta sort of this track.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I feel like you would attain, you know, membership to
that club by being involved with Jeffrey Ipstein.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's just so funny too that he's like, God, I mean,
I'm caught up in one of the most terrible scandals
in modern history, and I'm just going to say I'm
no longer Royal Night Companion of the Most Noble Order
of the Garter. That's my punishment. Come on, y'all, what
about jail. They're still mad.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Did they not hear that I gave up my night
Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order?

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Did you do that one?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Jesus get into much of Like when Virginia Guffrey died,
that was really weird. She was like living in Australia
and I think, and I'm kind of going by memory here,
I could have been slightly wrong. She got hit by
a car where she was like walking home, and then
they were like, she's about to die, and then she didn't,

(34:34):
and then she's seen out like some weird messages on Instagram,
and then I think her dad swept in and was like, oh,
she's not doing well, and we didn't hear from her
for like four months, and then she died from something else.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think it was like unrelated.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
The whole thing was.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Right, right, which but like after getting hit by a
school bus, I think in an unrelated incident.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Within six months of.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It, it was like the whole thing was just fucking
I don't know, I feel like there's not been a
whole bunch of chatter about the last you know, six
months of her life.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, Yeah, it was pretty fucking weird. Yeah, because at
the time, it wasn't a major car accident, that's right. Yeah,
she was like she like walked away from it. But
if face there was a picturerific face. I think it
was all bruised up. Yeah, and then she said you
then but then uh went into renal failure and then

(35:28):
given four days to live. Okay, they might.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Then of course passed away from taking her own life.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, Michael Clayton esque, I don't know, we don't know,
we don't know. But again, I mean, just like anything,
there have been a lot of people in orbit of
this scandal who have passed away. You're like, well, that's odd,
that's odd. Interesting, Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I don't super super.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I think amazing of her to write a book that
you know, she knew she wasn't going to derive any
benefit from, to just kind of get the word out
there and this thing's coming out like an awake something
like that.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
This week and The Guardian just published an excerpt that
is harrowing and you know, describes the Prince Andrew stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Are you guys going to read that book. I'm going
to read that book. Yeah, I think we might have
to read that book. I mean, I'm definitely curious what
comes out of it. I I don't I think I
don't relish in reading all of the details, but absolutely
am curious what revelations come out of that, because I
think in the one of the excerpts too, she alleged

(36:37):
that like the former Prime Minister of Israel, a who
Barack also assaulted her. So yeah, I don't know, Yeah,
there's it sounds like there's definitely a lot in there,
and it's like, yeah, just off the strength of that
excerpt that this guy is like, I'm gonna give up
my most noble order of the Garter night companion.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, wait before the book comes out. I'm coming from
a place of black. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't
want to old juiced up for this horrific you know,
this life that she's lead. But it is interesting out
in this book. But I don't kind of trust the
news anymore really to represent like what's in the book
at this point. Absolutely, and I think every organization will
have its own little slant on what's reported in the book.

(37:16):
And now for stuff like this, you kind of got
to go to the to the source.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
The next morning, Maxwell told me you did well. The
Prince had fun Epstein would give me fifteen thousand dollars
for servicing the man the tabloids called Randy Andy. That's
an excerpt from the book. Like that's the thing, Like
this worked, you know that. They were just like, Okay,
you've done your duty, and yeah, it's fucking really weird.

(37:43):
But to your previous question about her passing away, it's
not like there's any suggestion that anybody has done anything.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
To sabotage her.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Oh wait, just days after losing his title, the police
are actively looking into reports that Prince Andrew tried to
dig up dirt on Jeffrey through his Police Protection Order
protection officer, because you know, that's one of the things
that I think he might be giving up. But like
all the royal guards and shit that are available to

(38:12):
him using his security forces.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
To be like, he is a motherfucker. You got to
have a cutout. I know this, and I haven't been
involved in anything shady. Don't go to your regular guy
for stuff like that. You fucking the interview he gave,
he was like, oh, I can't swear like you're sweating out.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
He's so sweaty right now.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Briefly, yah, period where I couldn't swear damn Falklands man.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
It was and there's one of the most insane and
we've been treated to some crazy TV interviews over the
last ten years, but that's got to be top three.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, it's oh, I mean that was the one that
I was like, oh, yeah, this whole thing is very real,
just based on how shook Prince Andrew was and how
unable he was to pretend like this wasn't as insane
as the whole thing is. I mean, yeah, we'll see
it because I mean, like, meanwhile, like in the US,
right we're trying to get these Epstein files released, and
the speaker still won't swear in someone who won a

(39:10):
congressional seat because they will be like the final signature
on the petition that would force a floor vote on
releasing all the Epstein files. And I mean, I think,
along with obviously all the tremendous damage that the shutdown
is doing, but I think it's also pretty clear Mike
Johnson that this has it serves two purposes too. It
prevents or at least slows down the revelations potentially that

(39:32):
would come out from any kind of uh you know,
release of the files.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I will I will say and I know we've been
talking about it probably longer than you guys wanted to.
But I think people also need to kind of be
realistic about what the Epstein files it really means, because
I keep saying online people like, where's the list?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Miss the files? It's not like there's one document. It's
not like some pd is.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah, the CIA has gotten a vault that'll get released,
you know when when when the Congress takes a vote
on it. It's like there's a collection of evidence of
criminal wrongdoing that is from disparate sources, most of which
I'm assuming has been destroyed by now, you know, Like
I would be shocked if it had adequately been archived

(40:17):
or kept safe something.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I mean, I also don't trust the United States government
to release a bunch of evidence that would potentially disrupt
the like the power structure of the entire countries, right, And.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I think people do need to go like, we've got
quite a lot of stuff to work with, real like.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
If you don't kind of if you haven't been provided
with enough evidence already, I don't know that there's something
coming that's going to convince you.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, I think that's where just we've said this in
the past too. I think both people on the left
and the right, they they you know, people on the
left or liberals think that this will be like and
that'll be it for Trump once the Epstein Files come,
It's like, yeah, they're going to release the thing that
means that's a wrap for no yah not and whatever.
We're not going to get that. And also the Republicans

(41:03):
and conservatives are not going to get like Barack Obama's
Sex Party mixtape as part of the Epstein Files either.
But I should come on.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I mean, the most sensive Christmas is Christmas Adventure.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
The most sort of potent or at least moving thing
was just hearing all of the survivors speak in front
of the Capitol and from there, I'm curious what they
have to say all simply because I think that is
also a very powerful bit of testimony that it's a bad.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Theme ultimately right, and it does we all lose sight
of that.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
But it's like the reason this is such a big
deal was because these victims and some of those victims
are here and the talking and yeah, yeah, the focus
should definitely be on name.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I mean, one of the women that was speaking was
you know, like introduced to Trump as a model in
London and then he I remember, like, I forget which
English paper was they they sort of described her moving
to New York as being installed in one apartments and
you're like, oh, guys, that okay, there's a lot I

(42:09):
don't know. I'm not a big language person, but that
that that does a lot of informs a lot of
what you're saying by saying someone was installed.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Supposed to have two different verbs to describe an HVC
system going in and a person moving in.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's right, We've got different words for those things.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I don't think it's going to be like I think
a big part of the power of it is watching
them react to it and watching them trip over themselves
to be like, never heard of her?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
What that thing was? Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
The words that you're saying actually like don't even make
sense to my brain right now, man, Like, what why
are people still talking about him?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
He's dead? I love that. It feels like there was.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
A talking point at one point where they were like, Okay,
so one of the things we can try is just
saying he's dead.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
There was Bill Gates.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Bill Gates also Trump, Trump has Bill Gates did that,
and that was like one of the weirdest things anyone
said about Epstein Die. He's like, I don't know he's dead,
so why are you stilling to ask me about it?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah? Like that sounds like someone who sounds like the
bad guy in a movie. Do you know more? No,
but he's dead, so what's the what's the problem?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
So let's keep it moving? And then Trump like broke
that out, was like, I.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Don't know why we're still talking about this guy.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
He's been dead for years. Wasn't that consequential while living?

Speaker 4 (43:27):
It was like wow, wow, Yeah, the leader should have
been that. I mean, I don't think you'll get anything
more definitive than the leader.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I think the other thing what you've heard people members
of Congress keep referencing these photos of Trump with like
half naked women or like naked women. And when Pam
Bond you had to go to a Senate hearing was
asked that directly, she just yeah, she didn't ask for it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
And actually the base point I saw someone bring up,
I think as part of those congressional hearings, was are
you going to because the leader was released by the
estate of Jeffery Gibson, which means, if it's fake, someone
infiltrated basically the state and forged a document with the
setting President's signature on it and set on that for

(44:10):
ages and then release it to the media. And they
were like, are you going to seek prosecution of whoever
fraudulently created the if it's a fake? And it's like, oh, yeah,
I didn't think of that. I guess we should. I
guess if he's saying it's fake, I guess we should
do that.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Good point, good point. Yeah, we're yeah, we're going to
do that too. We're going to get to the bottom
of this.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I feel like with Prince Andrew, we're seeing is you know,
a creaky old institution, Like what would happen if these
leaders didn't have the entire force of US imperialism and
capitalism like trying to protect them. If it was just
like somebody who was a part of the royal family,
where like the people who work in the palace are

(44:50):
just like there to talk shit about the royal family
and like think spill secrets.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
You're underestimating the most noble order of the gata. I
think you're doing so at your parents.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
All right, let's take a quick break, We'll be right back,
and we're back.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
We're back, and real quick update that Kim Kardashian has
a new product or had a new product on the
market that was sold out in moments a few minutes.
As she says, yeah, as the saying goes, necessity is
the mother of invention, and Kim k must have needed
a bunch of pubes recently, because last week she dropped

(45:38):
a line of what she calls faux hair micro string
thongs on the world aka fake pubes aka a merkin. Okay.
Vulture gave a brief history of the murkin in their
write up because I was like, yeah, I don't know.
I was always like, that's the thing in a movie,
so they can just have the pubes there, but no.
Murcans were first developed in fourteen fifth deeper the Oxford

(46:00):
companion to the body, and were created so that women
could shave off pubic lice without sacrificing that fabulous bush,
and then sex workers continued that for the same reason
through the seventeenth century. So well, I think most people
have been able to deal with pubic lice in our
modern era. But I guess everything moves in cycles and
Kim said she had a light bulb idea on a

(46:21):
set one day. She said, quote that was just a
fun idea that this is just so funny. Let's talk
about a mrkin. That was just a fun idea that
I had. There was a shoot and someone wanted to
like have their dowb have hair down there once, and
I was like, couldn't this just be easy and have
it on a thong? And so we made that happen.
I had no idea it would get that reaction and

(46:43):
sell out in a few minutes. What a fun little idea.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
I was picturing like actual underwear with like hair stuffed
in the front. But it seems like it's actually like
the micro thong of it all. It's like invisible string.
That's yeah, holding it in.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Holding the market in place, got it okay? Now like
using duct tape like the old days, you know, like
our ancestors had to.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I'm taking a position to this of like why not
yeah you know what Polcanos does shand or not Porcano Loos?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Does you know? I have a two pay down there,
you know what I mean? If the mood strikes and
you say, you know what, maybe I'm gonna wear this
one backwards today it was a little cold. Yeah, let
me just.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
But I mean, I'm sure everybody's dying to look like
me and have a big bush of hair in the
back there.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I call you Jackie Cottontail Jackie Cot, which my little bunny.
But I mean, unlike Elon, one of our other great inventors,
she actually follows through when she mentioned something like the
nipple bra, when she was like, you know what we're
also gonna do. That's pretty genius nip giving you that

(47:51):
that peak Rachel from Friends, Look, you know what I mean.
Also in pierced if you want pierced or unpierced nipple bra,
she had that. And then and the other thing that
she came up with, this face bra that is truly
part of me, is like, this is brilliant because you
this is probably made for fourteen cents and you're selling
it for like sixty dollars probably so the margins are insane,

(48:14):
but you're basically eye of a pony or sorry, it's
the thigh of pantyhose, like yeah, basically with ear holes
cut out. For some reason, it's a knee. It's like
a like a knea pre knee brace. Yea with a
big face hole and some ear holes cut into it.
For sure, you're supposed to wear that out.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I think it's supposed to train your face to stay
in that position, which I don't think is how faces
or physics works.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Yeah, I don't know what that would do in terms
of improving your face of it.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
So I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I'm trying to, Like, I'm looking at the photo and
I'm supplanting on top of that the biology and physics,
and I'm going, what is the end result of wearing painting?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Huge?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Told it's a night time thing.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
The yeah, yeah, which got it. It's got to tighten
the face and improve your facial contouring. You know. That's it.
It's not easy works.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, just cheering gum ark and chewing gum would probably
be more effective.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Get your jaw line pop it.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, well remember who was it? There was that alpha male.
There was that fucking weird thing where they were doing
that to try and make their faces more caveman face,
where like dudes are like, just do this thing or
get your fucking jaw muscles all freaked out.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I do twenty burpies every morning, and then I do
thirty eyebrow lifts where I just like do my eyebrows
up and down and it actually gives me that chromagnum
muscular forehead.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Oh yeah. It was the thing
of just moving your jaw out a little bit over
and over again.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Oh yeah, I had saying some of those videos. I'm like,
that's crazy stuff. Ask you guys a quick question. We
had this phenomenon in New Zealand when I was a
teenager at ho school. So I'm thirty eight years old now.
I was born in eighty seven, and when I was
in high school, like teenagers did not.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Go to the gym.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
There would be like maybe two students in my high
school of a thousand students who would go to the gym,
and they were like kind of elite athletes trying to
get into some crazy team they played football if you
were one of the gym. Yeah, but now it seems
like pretty wide, weirdly wide spread that the kids, the

(50:29):
teens are going to the gym. Is there an America
as well? And also, did you guys have the same
thing back in the day where it wasn't that common,
but like now it is.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I'd say, yeah, I'd say it's gone from being a
thing that like the various sports teams were like in
the gym lifting weights, and now it feels like everybody
like there there's a whole you know, subculture of people
who like are working out and like focusing on their

(50:59):
macros and like, you know, just figuring out like three
hundred grams of protein a.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Day so that beef maxing.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to be on the football team.
You just have to listen to Joe Rogan.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I don't like it, man, we got I hate to
say it.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I listened to a podcast yesterday were they're going through
like a dude who researches the social habits of teenagers essentially,
and he was like, you know, kids aren't partying anymore.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Teens aren't partying anymore.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
And I'm like, fuck, man, I know it's good that
they're off booze this generation coming up, but we might
need to get them a little bit back on booze.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
A little wild cost something.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
The flip side is too much like it's just this
generation that's riddled with anxiety, that is struggling to socially
connect with each other because they were, you know, in
our country at least like big time lockdown during the
COVID period, during that really important time.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
That's the that's the double edged sort of you know
what social meat are not even double it's that it
cuts one. It's fucking people up. I mean, it's the
amount of fitness influencers too that kids see from a
young age where they're like, oh, this is because I remember,
like if you if you were a muscle bound, like
when I was ten years old, you were a wrestler,
or you were like a fucking football player. Even the

(52:15):
basketball players weren't like jacked like that, and anyone you
were like who was quote unquote like the cute men
of the era weren't ripped dudes. They were just kind
of like these little skinny, floppy haired guys or whatever.
They were non threatening of feminine dudes. Thank god.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
As a man who was five teen and you know,
sixty five kg suck and wit, thank god it was
the cats.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah. So I think a lot of it too is
just you know, the it's just the normalization of like
did Jim talk kind of content and just seeing all
these dudes starting to take fucking human growth hormone or
fucking testosterone like.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
And it's yeah, It's crazy because I feel like we
vanquished some version of this movie had that incredibly damaging
celebrity magazine culture where it was like you know here
or wind shake, we're being increeably. It was put on
the front of every megasin cover. But we've sort of
I guess we'll just always have some version of this,

(53:10):
like horrible messaging to the kids. Right, But I don't know, man,
American from kim Kai fine whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That's right. I'm gonna get one from my head. Yeah
what about that? Yeah? Man, that exists. Yeah, but it
looks like Pubes.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That's gotta be got three Mrkins just like striping your
head kind of Dude.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
If I were three Merkins on my bald head, I
can go out one day or as eyebrows two Merkans eyebrows,
just playing staying alive as I walk down the street
like the beginning of Saturday Night Fever, just with my
murking head.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Waggling the eyebrows. That's why I was doing those eyebrow lifts.
Man gotta gotta power. Yeah, I do think it's a
good point. Like it also everyone like we talked about
this article and linked off to it last year called
everyone is beautiful, nobody is horny or like, nobody's having sex,
and it's yeah, how like these every movie star looks

(54:17):
like they spend twenty hours a week working out, like
and it doesn't. It's not just action movies, it's every
type of movie. Like there used to be different body
types and now it's just like everyone you get famous
for being like Chris Pratt got famous for being like
a sort of every man type. You know, he was

(54:38):
like the pudgy dude in Parks and rec and then
he got shredded.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
And now he's like really ripped and like, which not
to throw shade, but considering the obesity statistics in America
of the general population, it's just becoming like increasingly to
It's kind of like the wealth divide, right, Like there's
just this increasingly concentrated and divided get between most people,
like you know, ninety percent of people and the point

(55:07):
one percent that are either in the movies or have
all the money.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Right, all right, we need to get to the Christmas
Adventurers Club, guys, because I do think it ties in
really well with what we've already been talking about here,
which so the movie One Battle after Another suggests there's
a secret seems like all male white supremacist organization controlling
the government that's called the Christmas Adventurers Club. And yeah,

(55:31):
as we said, no question as to whether or not
there's a real world Christmas adventures Club. The question is
mainly which of several groups inspired it it. So I
assumed this is like such a Thomas Pinchon idea based
on like, you know, the the amount of Gravity's Rambow
that I've been able to get through about two hundred pages,

(55:52):
you know, and then crying of lot forty nine, thank
you for doing the one short one Thomas Pinchon. It's
but it's such a tip Thomas pinch On idea that
it I assumed it was from Vineland because like he
loosely based on violent but this is a Paul Thomas
Anderson original and it's but like kind of inspired in

(56:14):
spirit by the work of Pinchon. The first one that
jumped to my mind is John Birch Society, which was
this far right anti communist group that people are generally
like talk about more as an antecedit to like QAnon
these days, and not something that's like actively out there,
although people like at their peak, I think they had

(56:36):
one hundred thousand dues, paying members, sixty full time staff,
and you know, we're just focused on it was they
were basically like.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
We we're here to fight communists at a time when
John burd was a guy that was killed in China. Right,
It's like named after a guy who would like, I
think a missionary or someone who was killed over there.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, And it was at a time when I'm Erica
was hallucinating communists everywhere, and so they you know, had
a nice little run there but seemed to have died out.
There's also Paul Thomas Anderson has been into Mason's. There's
like a bunch of Freemason's symbols in the movie Magnolia,
which you know it with specifically the talk show host.

(57:19):
I don't know if you guys are Magnolia fans. I
haven't seen it in a long time. When I saw it,
I loved it so much that I made my dad
go see it with me when he came and visited
me in college. And he immediately was like.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Are you on drugs?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Like, what the fuck is going on with you?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Why would you think? I liked that?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
But there's Mason Mason reash it all over like symbolism
all over the place. Which also there is.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
A Freemason's lodge on the corner of Vinland and Magnolia.
There you go. How about that by somebody whorew up
in North Ollywod. I'm like, yeah, there's a lodge right there.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Freemasonry, I will say, Oftentimes, when you like started and
doing research on that, it gets real anti semitic, real quick,
like all free Mason conspiracies are like and you know
who runs the New World Order? When you like dig
deep enough, it usually gets pretty anti semitic. That Magnolia
was I think one of the best movies ever co

(58:17):
written by Cocaine, Like and he seems like he's like, yeah,
I don't know, I just like heard the idea, and
I was kind of interested in. I'm actually really looking
forward to doing a deep dive into the into Freemasonry.
And it's like, as the movie is coming out right right.
So the one that makes the most sense is the

(58:39):
mysterious elite all male gathering known as Bohemian Grove, started
with like artists and journalists and was immediately taken over
as most things in America are by like the powerful elite,
like burning Man, you know, yeah, exactly, exactly weird witnessing

(59:00):
this exact starts getting wild.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
And now Peter TiO is doing deals with some government.
Yeah trailer there.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah, we just have to wait for Burning Man to
soon become invite only and Peter Tale you know, controls
the guest list. But yeah, between rituals that are you know,
very strange involved, like the burning of I think an
owl one Alex Jones like taped taped that, like Alex Yeah,

(59:28):
this was back when Alex Jones was not just you know,
a right wing reactionary and was just like that's weird
that all those people go out there and meet. I'm
gonna go and get some footage of it. But it
has the actual like pedigree. It's pretty much acknowledged that
they hatched the idea for the Manhattan Project there.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Cool, all right, so they're getting ship done. Go on.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
The Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon decided wh who was
going to run for president first there at a Bohuming
and Grove like they they're just there planning the world,
like dealing out the presidency like it's a hand of cards. Basically,
they're like, all right, you first members have included every

(01:00:16):
Republican president since Calvin Coolidge. Current participants include George Bush,
Henry Kissinger, James Baker, David Rockteller not I think some
of those people are dead now, but at the time
of the reporting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
And let's not forget remember when the Clarence Thomas Clarence
Thomas also almost likes to take because Harlan was there. Hey,
Supreme Court justice. Yeah, why don't you come through to
just a group of like minded individuals.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, journalists not allowed anymore, but people who own media companies,
sure are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
You've got a type of journalist.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Former CEO of Times Mirror Corporation, William Randolph Hurst of course,
Jack Howard and Charles Scripps of the Scripts Howard newspaper chain,
Tom Johnson, president of CNN. Yeah, just a lot of
people who And they were also just sued by three
Bohemian Grove employees, which I of course they have employed,

(01:01:08):
like I never I always pictured it would just be
like them like blindfolding a pianist, you know, like right,
But apparently there are people who like work on the
grounds and they sued three of them. Sued Bohemian Grove
for violating California labor laws. One employee claimed that he

(01:01:29):
was mocked by club members for complying with the request
from famous billionaire will William Coke to hand wash his underwear.
So that's the sort of vibes is you were mocking
the staff for following through with a humiliation request from
a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Part of me is like, it's obviously on brand to
exploit the people giving you their labor at your place.
I'm like, of course they would be, but also for
a secret society, like maybe you'd know, pay a better
wage to try and get some silence out of people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Absolutely just be bitter at this, you know, I like
the strong suit guys never been their strong suit in
any respect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Ever, pay anyone a living way, Yeah, they're like, what,
We'll threaten them with death. They've specifically been responsible for
hatching racist government policies in eighteen seventy seven, when the
club's president gave a speech in which he argued that
non assimilated races couldn't live together in harmony unless one
enslaved the other, and since slavery had recently become unconstitutional,

(01:02:31):
the next best thing was to keep Chinese people out,
and that led directly to the Chinese Exclusion Act, like
that's where they come up. That's where they like design racismazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
That this information is just out in the world. Yeah
right right, yeah, yeah, I mean they do their very
best for it not to be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I think it's because then people read it, they're like,
it can't be that. It's it's that these other people
are getting to other and doing this, or there's no
documentation of it. It can't be the thing that's well documented.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Right, QAnon is essentially Yeah, like people like point at
like gesture at this with the conspiracies they come up with,
but they're having to invent facts when there's like documented
facts of all of these things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Yeah. Yeah. The I mean the John Birch thing too,
is I mean, like like to your point, their whole
thing was about conspiracy theories and like real wacky shit
and when the Conservatives are like, well we can like
align with them a bit to get them on our side,
like that proximity just ended up is really like the
poisoning of the party too. Like that's again how that
thing evolves into the full blown QAnon stuff because you

(01:03:40):
have enough of this John Birch society ethos just swirling
around the party, And yeah, I feel like the John
rig Society didn't really go away, it just became the
modern Republican Party. And you can anyway, I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Think you can track that whole phenomenon through watching like
Alex Jones across the world last three decades, because he
used to He is never a good guy, but he
used to be a different guy. He was like very
much like everyone can get fucked, Like everyone in government
is against you. Everyone associated with both the Republican and

(01:04:16):
Democratic Party is, you know, vuying for one wheel government.
Like he was a real epos on both their houses, dude,
right up until Trump came down the elevator. And it
is kind of like a very specific boiling down of
like a lot of complex forces. You can watch it,
you know, a version of it all happened, and Alex

(01:04:38):
Jones aligning with the Republican Party and actually getting behind
a politician and him getting in and then like watching
kind of both sides of that wager fuck themselves and
have to settle and sort of sell themselves out, like
both the Republican Party as it sort of does the
s Faustian bargain to court conspiracy theorists to become a

(01:04:59):
voting block for them and then the conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
So you then have to be like, we're pro government
now kind of we love the president.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
You know, the guys we told you not to trust,
you know, with your children for forever, and that they
were like reptilian shape shifters who were trying to steal
your blood and take your guns off you. Well, you
also need to vote for them now and get all
your friends and neighbors to his Well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
It's an uncomfortable partnership that the Epstein thing, like that
is where the Epstein thing is like so dangerous to Trump,
and like his legacy is that, like it's the most
clear evidence that like he's exactly the type of person
you guys are talking about. Like, yeah, the documented evidence
that is being withheld that allegedly may or may not

(01:05:46):
implicate him in the very scheme that you guys, I've
read a lot of articles that implicated him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yes, we're all trying to find the guy who did this.
That's right, Yeah, exactly, Tim Batt, such a pleasure having
you on the daily Ze Ghost.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Where can people find you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Follow you? All that good stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Tim underscore Bat, I am pretty sure is my Instagram
there will be some glorious stand up clips coming out soon,
because I'm getting back on the wagon after a couple
of years off the circuit raising my kids. My kids
are now old enough where they can fend for themselves
back in the comedy world, and Guy and I are
actually right about to release in maybe a couple of

(01:06:26):
weeks from now, a brand new season of the worst
idea of all time for the first time in quite
a while, and a little bit of an exclusive for
you guys. What we're doing this time is we moved
ourselves into New Zealand's only full time comedy club and
watched Joker Too fo ny times and kept reviewing it.

(01:06:47):
And it's a thing that we call method film reviewing,
where you sort of enter the world of the film
to properly critique the film.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I haven't seen it once, and you needn't. Yeah, I'm
gonna listen to this. I don't need to see Follier,
do you. I'm amazed. Do you know the name Miles?
It took me like four watches to get the title right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
You're like, what's this one again? Is there a work
of media that you've been enjoying? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Yeah, this is this Okay, this is good that we
can end on a bit of a lighter note.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
There's an Instagram account that my algorithm has learned I
enjoyed very much. It pops up, so I'm kind of getting,
you know, like all sorts of nasty stuff, you know,
and then this one genre of video will come up
and lighten my load.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I don't know how to pronounce this account at a
m O E B A.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Em ob A me mob mob Amba mob, and I think,
and I don't even know one of these are the
guys making the videos or if they're just sharing them
on their account, but it is. And it'll come in
with like a first trap video of a hot girl
doing something, and then about three seconds into it, the
it will be a screech of an Ago the guitar

(01:08:02):
solo from free Boot when it's Kinna comes in and
then it's just about tryings and how fucking awesome trans are.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
And it's just try and gifts and it's awesome. It's
so good, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Miles where can people find you? Is there a workimedia
you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray, find me
talking about ninety dance on four to twenty day Fiance.
One post I like at Ryan hates this not be
sky dot social post. It just a just a little
screen cap of it. Looks like maybe it's from Wired.
It says can AI avoid the shitification trap? And Ryan

(01:08:40):
quote posted can the Manhattan Project avoid building the nuclear bomb? Shit?
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O
Brian and on Blue Sky at Jack ob the number
one workimedia I've been enjoying. I have been enjoying The
Chair Company, The timro Show on HBO. We're two episodes
in and episode two really really got my ass. Man.
Oh shit, I highly recommend getting on board now just

(01:09:13):
a gift factory. My Tim Robinson fan friends are just
they're like, we got a new batch. You can find
us on Twitter and Blue Sky at daily Zeitgeist. We're
at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to
the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
and they're at the bottom you will find the footnotes,

(01:09:33):
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about in today's episode. We also link off
to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles,
Is there a song you think that people might enjoy?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Uh? Yes, actually, okay, so I don't do. If you
remember around January on around when January sixth happened, there
was someone who posted a thing because this like artist
named Matthew Paluso was trying to promote their album like
on that day. But she's not American. So someone was
like everyone was like quote tweeting this and like, Nati
Paluso get out of the capitol because that was Nancy Pelosi. Well,

(01:10:09):
Brian the editor sent me like one of her tracks
and he was like, I don't know if you heard
Nathi Paluso, but this one track kind of goes hard
and it sort of does. It's called Sana Sana and
it sounds like some like a Tyler the Creator slash
Pharrell collaboration type beat, and just off the instrumental alone,
I was like, oh, this is interesting. Now I have

(01:10:29):
no idea what she's about outside of just that one tweet,
so forgive me if she's controversial whatever, but this is
Nafi Paluso with Sana Sana. All right, we will look
off to that.

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