OBSESSED With Fracking, Is Trump Winning? 10.26.20

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, fifty seven,
Episode one Guy Production, Have My Heart Radio. This is
a podcast where we take a deep dive into America,
sharing concio. We just we crack it open with the
chainsaw that you can hear behind. Uh. It's Monday, October.

(00:22):
My name's Jack O'Brien. A K A hey Miles, did
you hear about this one? Lead poisoning made people kill?
What about this cold gas uda mos? How about that one?
Can you believe? I've had four mountain dudes. Four mountain dudes.

(00:46):
If you're ready, let's get this show on the road now.
Five mountain dudes. Ah, that is courtesy of I don't
know who. That's courtesy of the discord. Killer clown from
Outer Sky. Killer clowns from Outer Sky. Shout out to you,
and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

(01:07):
co host, Mr Miles Crap. I want to talk right now,
Ms Gray and I came to smoke down. I am
internationally known the Valley to Japan. I roam scope Air
Jordan's Mason Margella stay away from me, New Balanced Era,
I'm ahead and okayny with this thing goes on and
on if you really want to know it takes three

(01:28):
to make the daily side. Um, that is a fantastic one.
Again Killer Clowns from Outer Sky on the discord, but
also this killer clown shot out emerged from Outer Sky.
Do Killer Clowns is also shouting out Beano by the
Barrel for inspiring this ak looks again group efforts happening
on the discord to come up with these just ego

(01:49):
stroking works of art. So shout out the pocket there, man,
I was. I was kind of just keep going. Yeah. Well,
you know, Rob Bass says, there's something about him gets
into my bone. Uh, well, Miles, it selection time. We're
getting right into this ship right now. So let's tell
the people what we're talking about today. Uh. We're gonna
talk about that debate at the end of last week,

(02:12):
specifically the fracking portion that sums up just how out
of touch both Donald Trump and Joe Biden are. I'm
gonna check in with a Peggy Noonan column, which I
like to do every once in a while just to
make myself feel terrible. Uh, We're gonna talk about undecided,
uh and how they responded to the debate. Uh, we're

(02:34):
gonna talk about those Florida pull watchers, the armed men
who showed up to you know, intimidate people, slash, make
sure the Libs weren't cheating, who said they were hired
by one Donald J. Trump, the president of these United States.
We're gonna talk about Havana syndrome is back, baby, that

(02:55):
story that has been a staple of this podcast. Asked,
I had always thought that it was a mass hysteria event,
and I'm starting to doubt. I'm starting to change my opinion.
Possibly all of that, we might get into some Biden merch.
The shitty merch war is on and popping in the election,

(03:20):
all of that, plenty more. But first we'd like to
introduce our guest. She is the talented, the brilliant Bushra Bernar. Hey, guys,
is how you guys doing? We're great, We're thrilled to
have you. Welcome, welcome, thank you. How are things? How
are things? What's new in your your neck of the woods?

(03:42):
Things are interesting? You know, whenever anybody asked how I'm doing,
so do I say like, I'm okay, We're hanging by
a thread. You know, it's like one or the other.
But I just didn't like, what's new because I think
we've all accepted a certain level of nihilism and yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I just did a run of like live Zoom
shows for my one person show, Life from my Apartment.

(04:03):
So that's been a lot of fun. I I had
my director who's been a guest on your podcast, Zahrbach,
you know, she's been directing me over Zoom. So that
just that run just ended the past week. So that's
been a lot of fun, a lot of like I've
had to keep my apartment clean for a whole week
because I've had people like looking into my life. Uh
so that's been a lot of fun. Or yeah, so

(04:26):
that's been That's where I'm at, just kind of doing
live theater from my apartment. What is that like doing
a one person show over Zoom? And when you said
you have to keep your apartment clean, are you taking
the computer with you around? Like so you're like, shoot, okay,
this scene is changing, I gotta get the kitchen now.
What's that been, Like, Oh, it's been it's been interesting.

(04:46):
I've been using my laptop camera and also my iPhone
camera on a tripod, so my laptop cameras like my
cubicle in the in the show, and then my camera
travels with me throughout my apartment. I even have a
scene on my balcony where I'm of shouting into it
and hopefully unfortunately no neighbors have complained so far. Uh
and uh So that's been really interesting, And it's just

(05:07):
been one of those like no one you're on stage,
you have like the suspension of disbelief. But when I
was doing stuff in my apartment, I was like, it
feels weird to just hold and pretend nothing when I
had my whole kitchen here, so let me make the
coffee I talk about. So it's been a really interesting experience.
But I'm also performing to avoid uh So we've been

(05:28):
having people like be active in the chats and zoom,
so it makes me, uh you know, just it makes
me conscious of like having an audience out there. So yeah,
so that's been a lot of fun. That's a really
good point. I mean that that's something that we're we've
kind of been experiencing for the past, you know, pandemic
just like you know, we're screaming. We're trying to be

(05:48):
energetic and perform to these people. You know, I'm in
my garage right now, next to next to my washing machine.
I feel like, yeah, Miles, you got you got a
hanger behind you. I got a bunch of clothing, you know.
Um that's just my process though, to get really in
character as a podcast host, to look like a man
who lives in his childhood bedroom. When to set up

(06:09):
some fake studio glass and make my kids sit behind it,
just just with headphones on that like giving you the thumbs,
give me the stretch it out? So all right, Well,
we like to ask our guest push for what is
something premier search history that is revealing about who you are? Well,

(06:30):
lately I've been doing a lot of searching on like
non alcoholic beer. Like I don't drink alcohol at all,
but um, you know, I was on this restaurant menu
and they had this whole mocktail menu and then I
started going. I did this rabbit hole deep dive of
like looking into mock tails and non alcoholic beer, non
alcoholic gin and and I just now my search history

(06:53):
and my Instagram it's all ads, like here's all this
other nonalcoholic stuff. And the problem is like I want
to try this, but I have no frame of reference
of what any of this stuff is supposed to taste like, right,
non alcoholic gin is not something I had ever heard of.
That is that's actually just the old water in a

(07:13):
flower of oz. Yeah, that's gin is one of the
worst tastes out there. Did you try it? No, non
alcoholic gin? No, I haven't. I'm I'm wondering if I should,
But I feel like I should have a control group
set up of people who know what this stuff is
supposed to taste, like, so if I go like, oh

(07:34):
my god, you guys drink this stuff like no, no, no,
it's not it's not it's supposed to taste right right,
right right? Yeah? Have you what have what have you?
What sort of have you experiment? Have you bought us,
like a nonalcoholic beer? Is there any sort of mocktail
thing that you found yourself liking or something that because
I know some mocktails are just sort of like less sweet,

(07:54):
sort of combinations of flavors and then like non alcoholic
beers just mimicking beer. Have you found yourself, you know,
enjoying when any of these Well, I tried one once
forever ago. Um. It was like this brand called Bavaria
and it was kind of awful, and I did like this,
accusing the accusatory thing to my friend. I'm like, I
can't believe you guys drink this. She's like, no, no, no,

(08:15):
this tastes nothing like what it's supposed to taste like.
But I keep on seeing all these brands pop up
now and I am interested. I like working with drinks,
like I make my own coffee and I had my
own coffee drink that I've created, So I was like,
I think I could have fun with this, you know,
just so maybe I'll have my own underground pop up
bar once you know, I've got time and just start

(08:36):
mixing mocktail drinks. I don't know how that will work,
but uh, but you know, just just something. It just
seems like a lot of fun. And I could just
really spend some time working on What's what's your coffee drink?
I like, you know, I love coffee like the jack does.
Two were very pro caffeine while ignoring possible caffeine addictions,
which is the great trick the caffeine industry plays on people.

(08:59):
But um, what what's your sort of What's what's your drink?
What's the what's your trademark? So um in a cocktail shaker.
I put in ice, milk, simple syrup, unsweetened cocoa powder,
a double shot of espresso, and a dash of Pinkamlain
salt and shake that up. WHOA, that sounds amazing. So
I actually made that in my show, so I would

(09:20):
show people how to how to make that just part
of my show. Um, and you're making espresso too, Yeah,
I had my espresso machine and yeah, I was all prepared.
When COVID happened, I was like, I had my coffee
set up. I don't I don't need anybody. Yeah, I
love it. That sounds amazing. The cocktail shaker is an

(09:41):
underrated tool. Like even if you don't drink, I don't drink,
and like, but I still will funk with a cocktail shaker.
Put put ice in, put whatever liquid I want to
get cold, and just man the thing. Really it really
gets the job done. It's a dilution and there sometimes
I think if you take it out right, the pro
the proster, Well yeah, I think it's my Like when

(10:03):
I was on I went on a journey of trying
to make the perfect martini and like got yelled at
from three different bartenders when I would ask, like, what
do you do, like, no, you're stirring, it's just gonna
be watered down. And other people like give it a
quick shake. But I guess to each their own. Wait,
so they're saying the cocktail shaker like melts it too quickly, Well,
you're the ice will break apart. You're gonna get smaller

(10:25):
fragments of pieces of ice that will dilute the drink further,
versus if they're just spin. If you're just stirring, then
you're just mixing it around either way. I you know,
I I wish I cared enough to say one was
better than the other. But when I was a kid,
I was like, all right, so here's my invention. I'm
going to make a thing that makes drinks cold as

(10:46):
quick as microwaves make things hot. And come to find out,
the cocktail shaker already does that. It's it exists, and
it costs like two dollars, right, Yeah? Or what's that
one trick with like as salt an ice in a
bowl and ship? Yeah that that's too too much like
a sentence experiment for man. Now I think it's true.

(11:07):
I just think that I'm dumb and investigate. Yeah, I'd
rather do the shake because I like putting it over
my shoulder and uh not make an eye contact with
whoever is around, just like a bartender, you know, drinking
a completely flat soda. Exactly. What is something you think

(11:29):
is underrated? Bushra? So recently I've been like thinking about
the movie Bottled Rocket. It's Wes Anderson's first directorial debut
after from his short film, and I was just saying about,
this is like an underrated film, and I don't know
why we don't talk about it more. It's just something
amazing and it's my favorite movie of his. So I like,
that's my my underrated pick. Wow, that's is that an

(11:51):
Owen Wilson because that put them on? Didn't that put
the Wilson brothers on the bed? That it flops when
it came out, and I was reading that Owen Wilson
was about join the Marines because it just did bad
and because he already had the haircut in the movie,
Yeah he does look like Yeah, that has some of
my favorite lines. The line about water sports that he

(12:14):
says to his uh little sister when when he's talking
about like what it felt like when he lost his
mind is one of my favorites. Yeah, Bottle rockets good.
I don't think I saw that. Is it is? It?
Is it very aggressively wes Anderson like hypersymmetrical. It's the
least aggressively wes Anderson of the wes Anderson like. It

(12:36):
doesn't have like just that hermetically sealed aesthetic where you
feel like you're watching like somebody play with toys, play
with dolls. Um. It definitely it feels like it takes
place in the real world. Um. And the characters are
a little bit more like realistic and lived in and
he cares more about the characters like you could tell

(13:00):
back then before they were. I don't know. I still
like his movies. I really liked The Hotel One, but
I do prefer the movies back when OLM. Wilson was
his writing partner. Wait, he was a writing partner too. Yeah,
he co wrote Rushmore, Bottle Rocket and Royal ten Embombs
and like those those are my three favorite of their movies.

(13:22):
And then like he stopped co writing on Life Aquatic
and The Train One, and I was like those that
I like how you begin after a certain point, you're
like the Water One, Hotel Movie, Fox Guy Dog People,
but you say that and I know exactly what movie
you're reference? What what for you? Busher? What's so underrated

(13:47):
in terms of like you know, it's what what What
am I missing? Like? What? What? Why? Don need to
put my ipond this again? You know, I don't know.
It's it's just one of those films that you know,
I didn't do well when it came out, and something
I discovered later and then I watched it a few
times and just got obsessed with it and like the
lines just come back to me and just it feels

(14:07):
just like these random characters just get together and just
trying to do something with their lives, and you know,
there's just memorable characters once you watch it. But I
feel like you have to give it a couple of times.
But I have like this And the reason I brought
it up was I bring it up in my show
and my one person showed the goofy paradox. When I
go on medical even I was like, yeah, I could
dive into the Bottle Rocket Blue Ray Criterion Collection addition,

(14:30):
and you know, it's just like it's just this random
movie to have a Blu Ray Criterion Collection addition of.
So it's just been top of mind lately. The line
I was talking about is Luke Wilson. She's asking like
what happened because he's just coming out of being in
a mental institution. He says, one morning over to Elizabeth's
beach house, she asked me if I'd rather go water

(14:52):
skiing or layout and I realized that not only did
I not want to answer that question, but I never
wanted to answer another water sports question or see any
of these people again for the rest of my life. Uh,
have you ever watched a Wes Anderson film and then
like been so disappointed? Where where with where you live?

(15:15):
Just the version of reality? Yeah, like where I've I've
I remember like after Royal tannembombs, I was like, Yo,
that's the wave. And then I like looked at my apartment.
I was like, all right, that ain't happening. But damn,
like for a second, like you feel it. I don't know, Like,
and I know people who have fully I won't say names,
but they know who they are whose homes are like

(15:38):
fully they had no imagination like I'm just gonna do
Wes Anderson. My house is a Wes Anderson movie. Be
careful where you step. There are little Dalmatian mice skittering around,
you have to be very careful. Yeah. No, I've always
said I feel like Wes Anderson movies take place in
a universe that is like fully inside the mind of

(15:59):
a child old who is reading children's books. Like it's
they all have like a children's book aesthetic, which is
one of my favorite aesthetics. Like, yeah, I love children's
like illustrated books, and like he seems so heavily influenced
by those, and like there are little nods to that,
like in uh, The Moon One, Moon Rise Kingdom, the

(16:20):
Boy Scout One, The Boy Scout One, where like, yeah,
he nods to that. But yeah, I do. I do
enjoy his his pictures. I think there's one coming out
that got delayed. Like all movies, what is something you
think is overrated? Busher, I don't know if this is controversial.
I'm gonna go with Peloton Um. I just, I just

(16:44):
I can't believe how expensive is and uh, I just
and people buy it, and you know, good for them
that they can drop a couple of grand that's totally okay,
that's totally cool that they can do that. I got
an elliptical and it was ten percent of the price,
and I just can't get over how much that think
costs and that people use it and then they pay
a membership on top of that, and it just seems
like so much money. And yeah, to to stay fit,

(17:07):
to have somebody whisper in your ear, you can do this,
you could do you can do go go fast. Now
I can sell my voice for like ten bucks a month, right,
I have my own peloton is free weights and Fox News,
you know what I mean. And I just get I
get I'll put I get in, I get dirty with
that ship just be like, I gotta get my body
strong for these fucking ghouls. But yeah, the peloton thing,

(17:30):
it's just become like half class marker half like, especially
in the pandemic, it felt like people just like that
was the way to sort of capture the outside world
for people and exercise. At the same time, I just
can't The workouts just seemed way too intense for me
that it looks like something I want to do, you know,

(17:52):
like every time I watch people like come on like
it's it's just very intense. It's a great workout, and
I'm like sort of like I like to work out,
but I'm not that serious about my health, so I'll
do something with a little, yes, a little less like
intense sweating. I've never like needed people to yell at
me to make me work hard because like my my
issue is I always like work too hard and end

(18:15):
up like making myself throw up. So like whenever someone's
yelling at me, I'm like, yes, you're right, let me
prove my worth to you, sir. I'll do better on
this hill. Yeah. So like that that ship like does
not appeal to me very much. But like I know,

(18:36):
people who are like you know, will pay somebody to
be mean to them and be like, I don't need
you to be nice, man, I need you to like
yell at me, and uh, you know I need you
to be nice. I need you to remind me my dad. Right,
let's go. Oh that's that's that should be an app right,
yeah right dad app yeah yeah, rather than like yeah exactly.

(19:00):
People are wasting all their money for cameos when really
they just need video clips of someone that could have
just been their dad telling them something. Is what was
your like, uh, fitness ro did you get an elliptical
in the pandemic? Like? What was what? Like? Did you
were you out of a crossroads where you're like, wow,
what's a peloton And they're like, wow, that's a lot
of money. Never mind, Yeah, I had I had a

(19:21):
pretty good gym regiment before everything went down, and so
you know, I did a lot of weightlifting, and you know,
I missed all that and everything flew off the shelves
like there were no like adjustable dumbells. But I got
myself like weighted resistance bands and and then I got
an elliptical because I wasn't going outside anymore. So even
just like the regular walking you do every day of

(19:42):
going to your car and going to work, you know,
going up the steps, like none of that what's happening.
So that's why I got the elliptical. Although I almost
gave up on the elliptical halfway through assembling it. I
was like, I don't know if this is worth it.
I don't know if I could do this. I just
I'm just gonna give up now. But I got through it,
and elliptical is really nice. But you know, I got
the resist spans and elliptical and I just canceled my

(20:02):
gym membership because this is all I need. And so
you've been able to during quarantine, like maintain some semblance
of like physical health. I personally am in the worst
shape of my life, like post quarantine. I think that's okay,
you know, I it's some semblance is key, you know,
like you said, you know us. So I've been trying

(20:23):
to stay in shape. But there's nothing like chocolate cake
right now. So I mean, why deny and in these times,
you know, it's just things are bad enough. Like I
tried to lose a few pounds that I gained, I'm like, why, yeah, yeah,
I have. I have found myself in that position of

(20:44):
being like yeah, like I like, I've had some days
where I've been able to like stick to like a
like eating as a human should, but I'm like less happy.
Like I mean, I think I need this right now.
I think I need to just like eat, you know,
just a giant stack of Oreo cookies every once in
a while. Yeah, quick vibe check Buscher. You said you

(21:06):
like chocolate cake. What are your feelings on fond int
I have mixed feelings on fonding. I know it's edible,
and that's always a good sign when that Yeah, I know,
but that's your opening line on a on a food item.

(21:26):
That's amazing. Well, and I don't think it should be
a substitute for actual frosting that I enjoy with the cake,
because you know, whether I eat it or not depends
on my mood. But there should be a layer of frosting.
And mean, I still remember years ago. They're still stuck
with me that I was at this birthday party and
they had red velvet cake and instead of the traditional
cream cheese frosting, they had fondant. And I'm like, that's not,

(21:50):
that's not you don't do that with red velvet cake.
And I was like fifteen years ago, and I still like,
remember this time, Remember the time. You can't have red
velvet without cream cheese frosting. That's should be illegal. All right,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk
about the presidential election. You guys, hear about this thing.
It's coming up, and we're back. So that that debate,

(22:24):
last debate, last presidential debate happened, uh and last week
the lowest bar ever Trump cleared. People were like, you know,
after after that first debate, they were like, will he
be uh the equivalent of like a blacked out, belligerent
drunk like he was in the first debate. No he didn't. Okay,

(22:45):
he wins. The debate was literally like the analysis that
I was seeing from from people who were either in
the center or on the right. Um. But the one
of the things I was discussed was fracking, and Miles
you were pointing out that that was kind of a
a nice little MicroC cosum of why we're uniquely fun Yeah,

(23:07):
why we're uniquely unenthusiastic about this just doing like whatever,
just fucking kick this can down the road and maybe
one day people will have equality. Um. So yes, fracking.
The way it was being talked about was you thought
the entire fucking election was hinging on this. It's come
up nearly every debate. It said like, oh did you

(23:27):
hear what he said Pennsylvania? Is here what he said
about fracking Pennsylvania. And I was just like, what, what, what?
Why are we of devoting so much time to this?
Because I know there are actually bigger issues than that,
obviously there are environmental issues that go along with fracking,
but to devote this much focus to it just seemed odd.
And the Daily Beast they were also like they just
wrote an article just kind of exploring like what fracking

(23:51):
means to the voters of Pennsylvania culturally to Pennsylvania and
looking at poll numbers and things like that, because the
way they talked about it, you think Pennsylvania is there
to be one or lost based on where you stand
on fracking, and uh, just a you go CBS poll
in August showed of Pennsylvanians opposed fracking and forty eight approved,

(24:12):
and then another poll in August UH said that while
Pennsylvanians had a favorable favorable view of the natural gas industry,
only thirty two had a favorable view of the fracking
industry compared to fifty who felt it was unfavorable. So
at every turn they're like, okay, like yeah, it's an

(24:32):
issue there, but the way it's like in terms of
a priority for voters, it's not quite the thing that
the two candidates seem to believe it is. And there's
just this whole thing of like, you know, not attacking
industries that employ people obviously as a politician, because then
those people will see you as an existential threat because

(24:53):
you're talking about the very industry that employs people, and
that it's been you know, has been sort of accepted knowledge.
I've over the years. But if you don't actually look
at the numbers, then you're just going to waste a
lot of breath on things. And there are even people
who have benefited from fracking. Uh. There's like this guy,
Eric Garland, who they interviewed UH in Allegheny County who

(25:14):
was saying, it's pretty much gotten my family through the
late nineties and early two thousands for work. Both my father,
brother and sister worked in the industry for a little while.
My dad's still in the industry on the chemical stile side.
But then he pivots by saying, but a lot of
people are more environmentally active right now than they were,
and it's hard because a lot of times they're either
uninformed or misinformed about certain things. And I'm sure it

(25:35):
goes both ways. So this person was saying, like, but
it's different now because in Pennsylvania the environmental costs have
really sort of come to the forefront of like what
people's feelings around it are. UH. And I think, again,
I just bring it up because there was this one quote.
The reason I think it's just so it just underscores

(25:55):
how sort of off they are is that it's this
this is like an issue some consults told you about
matters in this swing state. But you're not looking holistically.
You're not looking at all of the Americans who are
watching these debates and have very very pressing questions and
concerns about their existence that aren't tied to fracking. And
one voter in like a county where fracking was huge

(26:18):
said quote, I just feel like there are so many
other super important issues that could be talking about, like
social justice, the pandemic, and voter suppression. Those jump out
as important ones. Yeah, those jump out as those are
Those are someones that I don't know, seems seemed like
they might matter. It's always interesting to me like that

(26:38):
when people view voters like abstractly, uh, you know, voters
who aren't part of like the death cult of the
Trump movement. Like, when they're viewed abstractly, it's like, well,
they care about fracking in Pennsylvania. But then like when
you talk to them, they're just like, no, like we
were aware of our surroundings. We know that, like, are

(27:00):
there are issues that matter like environment and stuff like
that and social justice like that. I don't know. I
I always get told like I'm stupid for saying that,
Like we underestimate people too much. But I I do
think like the mainstream media in general just underestimates the

(27:20):
public too much, other than the people who are, you know,
in a giant cluster at at Trump rallies. Basically, Yeah,
Pennsylvanians also believe that this he stands to lose more
ground like Oklahoma or Texas than Pennsylvania over fracking. So
even Pennsylvania's like, I don't know if that's really the
message here, And I think I just you'd wish to

(27:44):
in that whole debate, you could have talked about something else.
You could have spent you know, eight minutes r along
the funk. That back and forth was on something like
the working class, Uh, the invisible, unhoused populations that are
increasing across the country. Uh, you know, fucking like actual
substantive remedies to the systemic racism uh and xenophobia that

(28:07):
we see in this country. But I think this we're
we're seeing very clearly what the priorities are, which is like,
just get through this, say the magic words, and then
we'll see how much of a vision for a brighter
tomorrow there is. Yeah, but so did you watch the debate? Yeah?
I caught it this morning, and I don't know, man,

(28:28):
I was just I'm already decided on who I'm going
to vote for U, So I'm wondering why I put
myself through it. But it's it's just it's just one
of those clusters that you just gotta watch and you
can't really look away. Yeah, yeah, I know. Do you
found yourself being like who is this for? You're like,
what who do we need? Did we need to do

(28:49):
this again? Because all he managed to do was not
scream because there was a mute function, and suddenly he's
the victor. Uh. As a little frustrating, and I think
again is disheartening when you know there are really like
the major societal issues that should have the attention of
a platform of a debate, But when you're two sort

(29:13):
of combatants in the debate ring or just two old
guys trying to do like what about you? What about
you sort of tactics, it fails to sort of be
nourishing two people with like those concerns. And I think
unless like debates have a live function of like what's
true and what's false? Uh, there's just really no point
to it. I mean, unless you like make sure everybody

(29:34):
does like a deep dive afterwards, because there's just so
much stuff that's just said and you have to believe
it or you don't. And we should really just find
out what the undecideds are, what they care about, and
why they're undecided in the first place, and just focus
on those topics. Right. So there's this Peggy Noonan article.
She's a Wall Street Journal columnist and like one of
the most popular and widely read conservative opinion writers, and yeah,

(30:01):
what one of the lead things she was saying, She's like,
Trump won the debate. Uh, not a dazzling win, but
a win that kept him in the game. He succeeded
in doing what Joe Biden didn't have to do. If
you wanted or needed an excuse an out to vote
for Mr Trump, if you wanted an argument that justified
your decision in a conversation in the office, he probably

(30:23):
gave you what you need, which, Uh, I don't know
what hypothetical workplace she's referring to. I mean, let's play
this out, Jack, where you are the person who voted
for Trump, and I'm your angry coworker who's confronting you. Wait,
what the funk man? You voted for Trump. Did you
see the debate? Yeah, man, did you see the debate?

(30:43):
I mean he was like he bear like, I'm pretty
sure he didn't ship himself. Uh no, but but he
what about all the racist stuff, the dog whistling stuff.
He said, he said, these children that are being separated
at the border are like he was talking to them
as if they were subhuman? Is that who built the cage? Miles,
who built the cage? So this is what the thing

(31:09):
that this statement that she makes, I don't know what
excuse does it actually give you, Like it just for
for you to just be able to live in your
own head, because there's nothing you could say out loud
rhetorically that would be like, yeah, you're right man, he
really was. He really did turn a corner there. He's
not the racist, uh just destroyer of all things that
he's proven himself to be. Well, he did say he

(31:32):
was the least racist person in the room, so you know,
and it was very theatrical the way he looked out
into the audience to make sure there weren't any less
racist people out there. But that's I mean, I don't know,
it's too dark in here to see all the dark
skinned people but I'm pretty sure, like that's out. I'm like,

(31:52):
what was he talking about in that moment anyway, That
whole idea that that's a glimpse into the minds of
the people who have to do it, is like, I
just need an excuse, Please give me excuse, Please give
me excuse, because the race is as bad. I just
need a thing that wasn't so racist and fucked and evil.
And I can immediately put all that aside because I

(32:13):
am only looking for the candidate that is here to
uphold and nurture de facto white supremacy uh and patriarchy
in this country. She made a point that in our
debate recap, I was I was kind of also saying
in a different way, but she was saying Biden too
often lapses into government speak, like saying things like the
public option uh. And you know Trump, she says, like

(32:39):
smartly kind of tied that to him being in government
for forty seven years. And I do think Trump has
the thing that I was identifying as something like I
wish we had the Democrats had a candidate like Elizabeth
Warren or AOC or Bernie Sanders who speaks like a
person and not like a politician who just like uses

(33:02):
words rather than like having like these like catch phrases
and like having to manufacture these ideas and like you
see it like formulating in their brain. But then at
the end of that paragraph talking about like Mr Trump's
power recovered Thursday night is to speak like normal people
so you can understand him without having to translate what

(33:22):
he's saying in your head. He appears to have lied
a great deal that will be adjudicated in the coming days.
So like to your point, Bush or like the thing
about him like lying and like not having a fact checker,
Like it's just if that is your standard that like
he appears to it's just like who's the better liar,
who's the more convincing liar? Um, And she's like, yeah,

(33:44):
he appears to have lied a great deal that will
be adjudicated in the coming days. That has no, that's
never a thing that people like sit around and wait
for the fact checkers to weigh in like they've already
made up their mind. So yeah, it's a weird way
to determine who who win an election. She also points
to like this fact that and I think does like

(34:05):
a decent job of putting it into words that like
we still think that like he has this magical ability
to uh defy the polls and she, she says, pull
a black swan out of his hat. It's like a
a column where I was, like, I get why she

(34:26):
is a popular columnist. She does a good job of
like describing the moment what our fears are, that like
he's just got this magic that he's gonna be able
to pull again where he defies the polls. But then,
but then the last two paragraphs are unbelievable in like
just the dog whistling the size of a foghorn, as

(34:49):
Biden put it. She suddenly turns to Kamala Harris and says,
for her part, Vice presidential nominee, Kamala Harris is went
on the trail giddy. She's dancing with drumline lines and
beginning rallies with whass up Florida. She's throwing her head
back and laughing out loud. But she's coming across as insubstantial, frivolous.

(35:10):
When she started to dance in the ran on stage
in Jacksonville to marry J Blige's work, that it was embarrassing.
Apparently you're not allowed to say these things because she's
a woman, and she's doubling down on giddy because you're
not allowed to say them. It's just like she starts
like being a bad writer and being racist at the

(35:31):
same time. It's just like she ends it. She goes,
if you can't imitate gravity, you could at least try
for seriousness. I hate the shallowness with which politics is
now done, the absolute purility of it. Do you were
on the losing side? The future is an endless loop
of Barack Obama on between two ferns stamping on your

(35:53):
face forever. So let me just so, Barack Obama and
Kamala Harris are responsible for the un seriousness of politics.
This is coming from someone who was on the editorial
board of the Wall Street Journal, which is currently repeating
the Hunter Biden pizza gate ship. Un she just sung

(36:17):
the praises of Trump rallies because she does point to
Trump rallies as being like an indicator that he might
succeed again there where he has made fun of candidates
for of journalists for being disabled and bragged that he
could shoot someone and get away with it. And she
has a problem with Obama and Kamala I'm I'm trying

(36:40):
to figure out what they have in common that would
make her unable to take them seriously when racists are
so bad, like like the racists just don't know how
to not be racist. You know. She she was really
holding it together. And then's like all those black people
are just two Damn. I don't know, I don't understanding
on your face forever? What the fuck are you talking about?

(37:04):
You unbelievable, It's unbelievable. But yeah, she just like couldn't
hold it together well. And and the fact that you know,
she was able to get that published and just just
can say whatever you want about like you know a
lot of people just you know, hold a lot of
respect for Rock pressent Barack Obama, and and you know
Kamala Harris, like she represents like who we all want

(37:26):
to see, you know, in office, and just that oh,
we can't say anything it might be racist. Okay, but
I'm going to go ahead and be racist because I
don't want to, you know, conform. But it's just insane
that these people are just allowed to say whatever. Yeah,
And the logic is like, oh, and I can't say
anything racist because you're gonna say it's racist. It's but
she won't even say that. She says, apparently you're not

(37:48):
allowed to say these things because she's a woman. What
what's that's Q and on logic, that's all and on
like I'm trying to avoid, trying to avoid actually talking
about the reality of it and I and I and
explain things in a way that doesn't make white supremacy
and issue or racism and issues. So it's going to
be like, oh, it's woke culture and it's women can't

(38:11):
attack women rather than me trying to paint a black
politician as someone being un serious or jokey for for
holding office. It's embarrassing, it really is. It's like you
couldn't more clearly be the racist women character from The Help,
Like that's the vibes she's giving off those characters. That

(38:34):
movie is ridiculous and like cartoonish and shitty. But like
that's when you see something like this, you're like, oh,
that's not an over the top portrayal by Bryce Dallas Howard,
Like that's that that woman exists currently in modern America
and an opinion column. Yeah, and didn't that movie like

(38:57):
why I Shoe the Top on Netflix? When people who
are trying to learn more about trying to be more wocused,
Like let's watch The Help, let me learn and absorb.
Oh man, their stories. You know, oh so many other
movies you can watch. It's like, well, I don't want
to get that uncomfortable by sort of putting a mirror
up to my own behavior, So I'm just gonna do

(39:17):
it at the help level. I don't really want to
go further and to maybe understanding what sort of micro
macro aggressions I'm putting up. Just watch The Help that
in Florida they're having to add police to polling stations
because they're they're armed people at the end of last
week going and basically intimidating people. These people are clearly

(39:41):
Trump supporters and in fact have said that they were
hired by the Trump campaign to go, uh, you know,
patrol and intimidate voters. You're you're seeing all sorts of
people who are wearing Black Lives Matters t shirts not
being allowed to vote because people claim it's political. But
then there are cops who have Trump masks on at

(40:04):
polling places. So it's you're seeing the funny is coming
in in full effect. And yeah, yeah, And the problem is,
like if any other country did this, we'd be like, wow,
that country, they're so backwards, look at their corrupt government,
and you know, we'd probably go and invade them to
help them with democracy. But when it happens here, it

(40:27):
just seems to just be okay, Like I never understood,
like why is that okay? It's it's just that it's
the it's the comfort of American nous, you know, that
allows certain Americans to never have that level of like
introspection about like our country and just always launched these

(40:48):
hollow attacks of like you know, I see the memes
or they're like, oh my god, and communist countries, everything
looks the same cut to our like tracked housing neighborhoods
and mini malls that look have the exact I fucking bet,
best Buy, pet Co and Ross in the same fucking facility.
You know, Like it's it's no one's ever actually taking

(41:08):
the moment to be like, well, people starve in those countries, Like, yeah,
people are starving in the United States as well. You know,
eight million people just suddenly entered poverty like that without
any any sort of willingness of the federal government to do,
you know, to help people. And so I think and
now everyone's just projecting the same way the federal government

(41:30):
treats them onto each other, which is, well, the government
doesn't give a funk about me, why should I give
a funk about other people? Fuck it? And then it's
just it's you know, manifesting in all these awful, awful ways. Um.
But the one thing, oh, I wanted to also talk about,
you know, on the heels of that Peggy noon In
article was Frank Luentz, the Republican poster. He also did

(41:51):
a focus group after the debate, and you know, with
what he calls undecided voters. And if you're an undecided
voter at the point, you are either horrifyingly disengaged from
the news or you are a coward racist or both.
And you can tell by the way these people were

(42:11):
responding after the debate. So Frank Lentz, he's like the
you know, he's like the big time conservative poster. He's
been the one saying, he recently said, if Trump wins
and the polls are all wrong, polling is done. The
industry is going to be fucked if he wins again. Uh, Like,
I think there's bigger issues if he wins again. It's
not just gonna be with the polling industry. But oh god,

(42:37):
can you imagine you think of once you think of
the people, the pole watchers, I'm not I'm not selling
my boat. I'll tell you that I ain't selling a
boat because of the pole industry going down anyway. So
he goes on to speak with some of these undecided
and you can just tell by the responses that these
people are not unders there. They're undecided on whether they
want to be known as racist or you know, completely ignorant, xenophobic,

(42:59):
everything that it's wrong with America. So after the poll
or after the debate, they say several of the focused
group participants said they were more likely to consider voting
for Trump after the debate. Quote, I am leaning more
toward Trump now. However, however, okay, did you heard me
say I'm leaning more. But this is the thing I quote,

(43:20):
I still don't feel like I have good answers on
the race issues. And that's a very very important issue
to me in this country right now. That doesn't sound
like someone where racial equality is an important issue to
them in this country right now. Whatever that answer means
leaning towards Trump, but race is a very important issue

(43:40):
to them. Right now. How in what sense? Well, maybe
he meant white supremacy, Yeah, supremacist. Another person said, like,
but in the group, a majority of their respondents, who
are all coming from swing states, said Biden had a
better character than Trump. Then another person said, ultimately, it's

(44:03):
a choice between character and policy. I think I think
it's the slowered expectations that you guys mentioned before, Like,
you know, Trump didn't you know, he was able to
be a bit coherent, and people just assumed that it
meant that he knew what he was talking about, and
just like he didn't completely flub everything, So why not,

(44:24):
you know? But I don't know. But people who are undecided,
I feel like that they're making a choice of whether
or not people like of color, people like who look
like me belong here. And it's just I remember when
a difference of opinion of being a Republican or a
Democrat was just like you could still respect each other's
differences in opinion, and I don't. I think this day

(44:45):
and age, it's either do you want to be do
you want to like support white supremacy or not? Is
just the main question. Yeah, And I like that is
the decision. That's what's happening, like you, no matter what
you what, Peggy Noonan tells you what these people are saying.
If you support Trump, you're supporting white supremacy. If race

(45:09):
is an important issue to you, you cannot categorically cannot
vote for Trump, Like that's just your you can't do it. Um,
if you give a funk about human beings, you cannot
vote for that, for for for Donald Trump, just in general,
fucking even animals, you know what I mean. The environment's
getting sucked up to like it's it's really And Peggy

(45:30):
noon And you can tell the way she wrote if
you were looking for a reason they had it. That's
her telling all the people who are afraid to get
completely like you know, alienated, to be like, that's okay,
you can do it. I'll be on your team to
to you even if you vote for for racism, it's okay,
it's okay. And these people and you can still even
these respondents where like they're leaning more towards tomp now

(45:52):
it's like no, you just it's it's a sad state
of affairs. She spent three paragraphs talking about a Donald
Trump rally and then and then accused Kamala Harris and
Barack Obama of making politics frivolous and insubstantial, like that
unbelievable cognitive dissonance going on. Yeah, I I don't know.

(46:16):
I don't know what's going to happen. It's pretty it's tough. Yeah,
because again when I when I see this focus group,
uh like article, I'm like seeing it's there's the invisible
racists are still out there, you know what I mean.
And I don't know. I'm I'm always just a little
bit still very apprehensive of truly annoying like where this

(46:37):
country is at through polling, because you see people who
are so bending their fucking minds in the wildest ways
to try and rationalize how this presidency has is good
or worth enduring for a further four years. Uh, And
it's yeah in her colin Peggy Noon and refers to
Trump's ability to pull a victory out or to five

(47:00):
the polls, or defy common wisdom, defy the mainstream media
as like his dark magic that we don't understand. No,
we understand that he is the first politician in a
long time who's willing to be openly racist in a
racist country. Like that is his dark magic that like

(47:20):
he appeals to racists and a racist country and before people,
we're not openly doing that, Like that's that's what he's doing. Yeah,
And like the way he doubled down on like Columbus Day,
you know, I mean I felt like we as a people,
as a country moved past that. And then the statement
he released on Columbus Day about yeah, let's celebrate this guy,

(47:42):
you know, and just like everything he stood for is
just like it was like the slap in the face
of like I thought we stopped celebrating that back when
I was in elementary school. Uh, but he's just doubling
down on that because that's just his base, right, Yeah,
and that's all and again, yeah, that's all he can
do because it's not it's not going to bring people
on the outside in like now he's And that's why
what's also worrying about, like the amount of new registrations

(48:04):
the Republicans have also managed to get too, because I'm
sure there are plenty of disengaged racists that are like,
oh shit, I gotta fucking vote this time too, because
you know, enthusiasm could be just as big on the
right as it is on the left. And I think
a lot of people just mean, like I think enthusiasm
equals people who are registered Democrats. It's like, uh no

(48:25):
that because let's let's face it, like white supremacy is
a foundational touchstone, cornerstone of American culture, and it's you know,
when people are telling you it's the fourth quarter, you
need to come, you need to lace up and get
out there and vote for white supremacy. There are plenty
of people who are willing to do that. What do

(48:46):
the political ads to engage racists look like? I'm curious
that if that ever, you know, if that market here
in California, I see, well, the I see a lot
of Trump digital ads like if I'm you know, watching
trash reality TV like on TLC dot com or something
like that, and you get like a mid roll ad.
That's why I've seen so many political ads, like just

(49:07):
watching digital video that has like ads, and his are
all like lawn order based. It's police being like, you know,
I'm gonna chief of police and Joe Bienen, He's gonna
get all the Antifa's in here and it's gonna be
just chaos. And I'm that's why I'm with Trump, because
he's he's with the cops and it's like just showing
like you know, like sort of uprising footage and things

(49:30):
like that. So it's just all he's using cops, basically
using the binary of cops and unhappy people of color,
and you know what to do. Just before the debate
started last night, I got a bunch of vote yes,
I'm Prop twenty ads. And the way that they so
Prop twenty is basically trying to repeal criminal justice reforms

(49:54):
and you know, throw the book at anybody who commits
a crime. And the that this ad worked was using
the same dog whistles that the Trump administration uses or
the same like sort of scare tactics with human trafficking.
They were like right now, like California makes it okay

(50:15):
for human trafficking, and they had it. They had video
of a seven year old child with like like basically
like gore makeup on like there, her like lip was
like all funked up in her eye, like she had
a black eye, and she was like looking at the
camera and it was like, yo, what the fuck. It

(50:38):
was some of the just like darkest ship I've ever
seen in a political ad um. But yeah, that's you know,
that's what they do to. It's the same one with
like the dialysis clinics where like you see the ads
where the really the coalition of dialysis centers has paid
for because they don't want additional oversight, you know, to

(50:59):
like make the or business be like humane and like
dy've just parading all these people like they're gonna take
away my dialysis if you vote for this please, and
you're like, oh my god, I don't want to do that,
and then you read at the end it's like paid
for by the motherfucker's that are getting so rich off
of jankie dialysis centers. Yes, exactly, Um, it's all about

(51:19):
it's actually just making it so it's harder for dialysis
centers to infect you when you go there, right, Um,
make doctors have to work at dialysis centers rather than
like people who they pay like ship and treat like
and people are just like, yeah, man, I'm I'm sick
with the renal ship. Man, I'm I'm an expert in

(51:40):
renal issues, dude, any kidney stuff or my doctor. No, bro,
my uncle owns the space. But uh I did a
fucking sick online class and now I'm running it. And
like yeah, when you really look at how the state
of dialysis clinics. I'm sure this is nationwide. You're like,
holy ship man, Like these people are really spending money
to be like, no, we need to keep our care

(52:00):
sub standard so we can make more money. It'll be
interesting to see how people vote on that, like how
much the political ads work, because yeah, it's very transparent,
it's very straightforward in terms of like a thing a
law that would like there's really only probably twenty people

(52:22):
in the County of Los Angeles who would be for
like making it easier for dialysis centers to you know,
be dirty and shitty. But like I I feel like
these ads have been so omnipresent they're gonna get some votes.
All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll
come back and check back in with Havana syndrome. And

(52:54):
we're back. And the New York Times recently reported on
a story, uh that we've been checking in with. I
thought I had my mind made for years, literally years.
Were three years into this motherfucker. Um. So, when the
Trump administration first started, there were accounts of CIA agents

(53:20):
and diplomats working in Cuba getting attacked by these like
sound weapons they would like get out of bed, Suddenly
a beam of sound would hit them and they would
have concussions concussion like symptoms, and it was wild story.

(53:40):
People were like, they're using like sci fi weapons on Americans.
But then like as it went on, like the symptoms
were so vague and they all overlapped with like symptoms
of aging. It was like, my hearing is worse and
my balance is worse, And it just had a lot
of the hallmarks of massive systeria. The other reason that

(54:01):
it had the hallmarks of mass hysteria is the broader
context was the Trump administration wanted to pull people out
of Cuba because they wanted to just withdraw and do
away with all the all the progress that the Obama
administration had made in Cuba. So there's new information that

(54:22):
is putting a shred of doubt into my thinking on
that that is what what was happening, Because they're saying
that there have been these attacks throughout the world, including
in Russia, UM and in China, And I knew that
there had been some in China around the same time.
I thought it was all part of like a similar

(54:43):
Like once they heard what was happening in Cuba, they
were like oh ship, maybe the same thing is happening
to me. Get in on this. Yeah, but there's also
people who were attacked in Russia. Uh, like they got
out of bed in their hotel and udenly like they
had a concussion even though nothing had happened to them.

(55:04):
So now these CIA agents who were attacked or like
pointing out that there is a pretty clear theory that
you could come to that this is all Russia. That
Russia is doing it in Cuba because they don't want
American Cuban relations to improve. Uh. They did it to
see I agents who were undercover in Russia. Um, they

(55:27):
did it to people in China because they don't want
American Chinese relations get to go well. And the Trump
administration is actually ignoring it everywhere that's not Cuba, because
the Trump administration, you know, like just does not want
to have have negative interactions with Russia with regards to

(55:53):
any any mistreating of American you know, it would be
of a piece with um, you know, the Trump administration
ignoring the fact that Vladimir Putin and Russia was putting
bounties out on on U S soldiers. So you're saying,
you're moving from the mass hysteria column, because before you
were firmly I believe that, Like when this story first

(56:15):
came out, I remember you bring up a lot of
other sort of mass hysteria things that had gone on,
where people are all believing something was going on, And
now you are actually being like, all right, maybe it's
microwave weapons. Maybe it's microwave weapons from Russia. I don't know.
I mean, I'm I've always said I'm I'm open to
like being convinced either way. I think it's it's just

(56:36):
a super interesting mystery. I think the way that the
human mind can create these mass hysterias that are in
fact like become physical is really fascinating. That's a super
interesting subject. It happens all the time. It's more common
and more devastating, more powerful than anybody than people usually

(56:59):
give it credit for. But I also think that there's now,
you know, context that makes it possible that, you know,
the reason we only had the Cuba like details on
the Cuba thing was because the Trump administration is covering
for Russia to try and you know, keep things quiet,

(57:21):
because Trump is homies with Putin. I had not heard
of this. This is very interesting. Microwave weapons Wow, super interesting.
I'm just going from pretty firmly in the this is
hysteria camp to having one foot that like I'd be
perfectly willing to believe that it's hysteria and one foot

(57:42):
in the uh. It would also make sense to me
if Trump was covering up for a bunch of Russian attacks,
because that just seems to be what he does. I mean, yeah,
he was willing to ignore you know, bounties on straight
up bounties on US troops. How does that? It's another like,
the more uh distance I have from the final debate,

(58:05):
the more I'm like, there's so many things that they
could have brought up that I was just thinking, Like
he didn't bring up the bounties. He didn't bring up
he didn't. Yeah, Like they just Democrats just get themselves,
like they triangulate themselves into a corner where they just
like think that they have to be you know, delicate

(58:28):
and balanced and um careful about their wording, and it's like, no,
just say the thing you think. And I think if
Biden had brought up mark a wave weapons and a debate,
I think everybody would be like paying attention all those
undecided like what what do my mind. So, yeah, this
lost opportunity right there. Yeah, I wonder if it's just like, yeah,

(58:52):
that's all time wasted on fracking. And it's like so
funny how they there's all this concern about there's no
middle class and da da da, and yet you you know, mathematically,
if you started talking about things like minimum wage or
the working class, you're immediately going from a topic that
maybe only effects like the thirty thou people directly involved

(59:14):
with fracking in Pennsylvania two millions of Americans across the
entire country. Because then you're like, oh, I don't know
what the fun fracking is, but you start maybe we
can talk a little bit more about this minimum wage
and how even fifteen dollars isn't actually a living wage either,
and maybe we could talk a little bit more about that,
because I don't think there's any person unless you're such
a craven racist, which means you're like a Trump supporter,

(59:37):
where you're gonna be like, I don't want to hear
about how minimum wage should be more money so people
could actually like raise a family on that. I don't
want to hear about, Like what the what? Yeah? I
remember when my my mom would say like in the seventies,
they would have my she and my dad would have
like these random jobs like minimum wage, but like you
can they pay their apartment, they got groceries, they were
able to, you know, have a family, like all those

(59:59):
things that minimum age used to do. And now it's
it's nothing. You can't sustain life. So I don't I
don't know why, you like people just seem to forget
what that used to bring. Uh you know what that
used to mean for a family. It would seem like
being the party that cares about people and that once

(01:00:22):
uh the once the majority of people to have a
have a living wage like all the people who are
being left behind like that, they would be the party
that wouldn't have to carefully choose every word and like
use political speak. But the Democrats, I feel like can't
get out of their own way a lot of the time.
I mean, forty two percent of Americans make under fifteen

(01:00:48):
fifteen dollars an hour. Yeah, so just what you could
you go from a wedge issue, a niche niche wedge
iss you're talking about fracking and you start talking about
minimum wage a little bit more top and about Hey,
people understand the pandemics hard. I understand you might have
a child. You know, actually you should probably be making
at least twenty five dollars an hour if you are
a single parent trying to survive in a metropolitan area.

(01:01:11):
But you know, it's it's all this whatever. I mean,
I think that's I think that's because both parties are
just so ill equipped to begin talking about those issues
because they all all those roads lead back to the
donor class that actually need to be taxed more, uh
and need to be earning like making less profit. So
it's just always about, you know, let's talk about minimum

(01:01:32):
wage and then we'll just leave it there and then
have arguments over like what's what what a relative living
wages based on where you live in the country, rather
than like addressing the need of Americans to be able
to live in a way that their labor is uh
compensated in a in a you know, proportional manner, proportionate manner. Yeah, right,

(01:01:54):
Like they haven't raised the minimum wage in eleven years.
That's never happened since it was first established. Congress has
never let it go and change for so long, Like
how how do you not just like be like, yeah,
this is this is the problem. We will change that
this guy hasn't and refuses to and is just focused

(01:02:19):
on the stock market. Ah. Well, on that note, come on,
just one more week, one more week, everybody, and then
we can and it'll be one more week and Halloween
and it'll be four more years, guys, just four more years. Well,

(01:02:40):
we don't even know how long that election will last, right,
They could be like one month and then we'll find
out and maybe not, you know, so that's a good point. Um,
as long as we have those poll watchers. They're armed
with long rifles. Just already. Busher, It's been so fun
having you on the as like, where can people uh

(01:03:02):
find you? Follow you, check you out? Yeah cool, Yeah,
it's been a lot of fun being on this podcast. Yeah.
So I'm on Busher Bernie dot com. That's my website,
b U s h R A b U R and
e y dot com. And I'm on Instagram, Twitter, more
Instagram than Twitter, as bush Ra writer. Uh that's w
R I T e R after Bushra on Instagram and Twitter. Um,

(01:03:25):
and so yeah, I post stuff on there and hopefully
we're going to do another run of shows for the
Live Zoom Virtual Show. Michel the Coolfee Paradox in December.
We'll see how things settle after the election and whether
you know we're still around, you know, we you know,
so we'll see how that goes. And yeah, so but otherwise,
I'm gonna probably have a newsletter up on my website.

(01:03:47):
People can just check that out and see when they
can expect shows. Awesome and what's what's your show about?
So it's kind of just about this existential crisis that
I go down, and it revolves around dessert. It's called
the Golfee Paradox and Goldfee is this creamy frozen dessert
from Pakistan in India and my mom used to my

(01:04:07):
mom has this recipe and I kind of created my
own version of the recipe. So it starts off with
me trying to figure out this recipe. But then you know,
I go down this exit gentile crisis of like work
is messing me up and oh but like it's a
life I'm leading, Like is that worth the struggles my
parents went through? And so it's just kind of my
journey through all of that and all right, while I'm

(01:04:27):
prancing around my apartment and I'm not prancing, but yeah,
and I'm making coffee. I'm I'm pretending to be different people,
a couple of different people, and uh yeah, just my
Hobbs my stuff to Hobbs Doll makes an appearance as well. Um,
so it's it's a lot of fun. Um. I don't

(01:04:48):
know why I'm doing it, but I love doing it.
It's one of those things like I don't know why
I'm stressing myself out so much to do it, but
it's a lot of fun and I'm really glad I'm
able to get my story out and just kind of
honor my parents and you my journey through that kind
of show. Is there a tweet or some other work
of social media you've been enjoying? Well, you know, Hulu

(01:05:12):
recently posted this thing on Twitter about about the the
reboot of Animaniacs, and I can't wait. What do you
know when that's coming out? That's gonna be done in November. Yeah,
so yeah, uh so just one more month, guys, Just
one more month and all our troubles are over the election.

(01:05:35):
Animaniacs reboot. Um, I think there's a Fraggle Rock reboot
coming at you. All good things. Yeah, they're rebooting Fraggles Miles.
Where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying?
Oh man, you can find me on Twitter, Instagram. Uh yeah,
at Miles of Gray. Also the other podcast for twenty

(01:05:56):
Day Fiance talking about ninety day Fiance. Uh And a
tweet I like comes from Jesus nice himself list Mr
law Marina and a mesh Marina with a fresh misdemeanor
and a cool demeanor. Uh he So he quote tweeted
this picture from Derek Guy at die work where and
it's a photo of Rudy Giuliani and standing next to

(01:06:19):
somebody says, if your lawyer comes in wearing these, you
are absolutely going to jail. And it's Rudy Giuliani's shoes
and they look like like eight bit pixel shoes. Like
they're so blocky. I've never seen anything like this. I
don't even know where you could purchase a shoe like this.
Let alone give you the description of what this shoe is.

(01:06:40):
It's like a loafer Chuka moccasin. Well, I have no
fucking clue what's going on here. And then Jesus he
tweets with that he says, man's rocking the geppetto elevens.
These shoes are so absurd. I can't even the you

(01:07:00):
have to I'm retweeting you. Just check out my Twitter.
It's unbelievable. Yes, fantastic, that's amazing. Uh. Some tweets I've
been enjoying at driving Me. Maddie tweeted kid trigger treat me,
did you vote yet? Kid? No, I'm eight me. Okay,
Well then I ate your snickers. Get the funk out. Um.

(01:07:23):
We'll leave it with that. Uh, find me on Twitter,
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talked about today's episode, as well as the song we

(01:07:43):
right out on. What are we writting out on the
two days? We are going to go out on a
track UM from Madison McFerrin and Bote. It was a
great producer. Madison McFerrin is actually Bobby McFerrin's daughter, uh,
and we've done one of her tracks in the past,
but this has a little bit more like bunky eclectric

(01:08:05):
electronic production and her voice is just super dope and
just like her father, like very good at using the
voice as an instrument harmonically and for a little accent.
So it's just it's just some some nice things to
listen to. Has a little bit of heart soul to it.
And it's called Looks And I don't know how to
speak French, but it's it's spelled O U t r

(01:08:27):
E l u x uh. So check that out. That's
from Phote and Madison mcx uh. Don't worry, be happy.
It's my two year old song right now. I bet
should still go. Oh, you know, when I get off
to this, I'm gonna be just blowing my car doors.

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