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May 23, 2025 66 mins

In episode 1869, Jack and guest co-host Blake Wexler are joined by comedian, actor, and writer, Titi Lee, to discuss… The Enhanced Games Are Coming to Vegas, A Punk Band Just Released An Album That Smells Like Gwenyth Paltrow’s Vagina Candle, Almost Half of Young People Would Prefer A World Without Internet--UK Study Finds, Will The Eighth Mission: Impossible Really Heal America? And More!

  1. Titi Lee: Good Girl Gone Baddie
  2. The Enhanced Games Are Coming to Vegas
  3. Donald Trump Jr. Invests in Thiel-Backed ‘Olympics With Drugs’
  4. Enhanced Games Promo
  5. A Punk Band Just Released An Album That Smells Like Gwenyth Paltrow’s Vagina Candle
  6. Gwyneth Paltrow Is Still Defending Goop’s ‘Smells Like My Vagina’ Candle: ‘Women Are Socialized to Feel a Lot of Shame and I Loved This Punk Rock Idea’
  7. Almost Half Of Young People Would Prefer A World Without Internet--UK Study Finds
  8. Tom Cruise Sidesteps Talk About Trump’s Hollywood Tariffs at ‘Mission: Impossible’ Press Stop: ‘We’d Rather Answer Questions About the Movie’
  9. Simon Pegg - "Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning" | The Daily Show
  10. Who is the enemy in ‘Top Gun: Maverick’? Let’s investigate
  11. Top Gun: Maverick director Joseph Kosinski: ‘Of all Tom Cruise’s characters, Maverick might be closest to his real personality’
  12. The War on Our Screens
  13. 25 years later, how ‘Top Gun’ made America love war
  14. Top Gun is the sleekest, horniest recruitment ad of the 1980s
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  16. ‘Top Gun’ and the Complicated Legacy Facing ‘Maverick’
  17. Why Tom Cruise Is Such An Effective Propaganda Tool
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What if my thing was that I've been trying to
change my Social Security number for like a more esthetically
pleasing number.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And it's tubes or something, just like, yes.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, about the exact numbers to be eight zero eight five,
and then that again, actually I've eight.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Zero zero eight right, because you're turning it upside down?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, exactly, Bless, I guess any times?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, damn. How many numbers is that? Because
so social Security Damn dude, how many numbers is that?
I'm just impressed by. No, I'm just wondering if there
is somebody with the social Security number bobless but also
impressed by anytime someone gives me a phone number, I'm like, damn, dog,

(00:52):
how many numbers was that?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Numbers?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Slow down? Man? What is that? How do you keep
shreck of all these? So I just counted on my fingers.
There's nine on the Social Security number. B O O
B L E s STA.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're one short, yeah, one put an Erica like you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
You can do boo bliss? Yeah, you know, all right,
that's plenty for you. Just enough.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's a freezing cold open. Someone say too much.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Some would.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
People with industry experience would say that's too much.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, eighty nine,
episode five of Derdaly's I Guess It's a production of
Iiheart Radio. It's a podcast where you take a deep
dive into America share consciousness. And it's Friday, May twenty third,
twenty twenty five. My name is Jack O'Brien aka I

(02:01):
drink warm milk in the shower above my chestay my hands,
guzzle that shit for hours. Alpha bros don't understand that one,
courtesy a fashionable dinosaur on the discord in reference to
I'm going anti grind set bros, who are like all
about the quick cold shower, I'm all about returning to

(02:25):
the womb via hours long warm showers where I drink
some warm milk, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's fantastic. That's We'll talk about drinking a beer in
the shower, but drinking a whole gallon of milk in
the shower.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Is warm milk until you fall asleep in the warm
shower eight percent milks. And it's actually good for the environment.
There's a certain point at which you leave the warm
water on for so long that it becomes good for
the environment somehow, I agree. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be
joined by today's guest co host, a writer and act

(03:00):
and comedian whose newest special, Daddy Lung Legs is a
mustwash and available on YouTube. The coiner of the disgusting
phrase plumpers to describe his thighs, It's Blake Wexland.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
This is Blake Wexor aka. I'm gonna blake till the
midnight hour. That's when my legs come tumbling out. I'm
gone to blake till the midnight hour because these thighs,
they are so round. Thank you. I swave it or not.
This might shock you, but that came from my head.

(03:33):
I wrote, really, Yes, the Lord did that, God did.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
God is speaking through me.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
God that's right, which is mightier some would say. And
this sword I have and came up with right there,
that is Today's a good brain day for.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Me, Blake. We're thrilled to be joined in Arisquar seats
by someone who called you blakey to day, which is
now what I will be calling you. Uh. A very
sunny comedian, actor and Emmy nominated writer who's written for

(04:11):
a good mythical morning. Reductress Brockmeier. You've seen them everywhere
from the Edinburgh Fringe Festival to the latest season of
Girls five EV please welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't have a song today, but I'll just double
down on Blakey Blakey. I didn't even realize I did
that until you said that Blake's name. I think Blake
and I actually met on the Cracked podcast, right, yeah,
I think you guy.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Episode of the Cracked podcast. Yeah, at that u UCB side.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
When I was producing then, yeah, wild.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So fun.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And then there was one.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Time You're a guest right on that episode Blake.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was producing. Was I on there? I know we
were on one together.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Those were great. But I
my blaky blaky heart. Sorry, that's a good one, my heart.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I have an anecdote about Blake. I always remember because
I went this was like a random, like pre pandemic,
one of those late night bar shows that were weekly
that nobody comes to you or whatever. Do you remember
there's a public house and then you were about to
go on and I was like you have to go
last and whatever. It was like I'm like so sorry whatever,
You're like, no, it's all good. And then you texted me,

(05:29):
but you were trying to text your wife.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
But it was like so sweet. But you were like
I'm so sorry, honey boo, like like I'm almost done,
I'll be right, sir, I'm missing you, and like but
it was funny because you had just like been like
oh so so fine and then turned away and texted
and I just get this mess like from Blake's like
like I miss you, and it was so cute. It
was like, you know, it was just a very sweet message.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
But I was like for me, that was actually for you.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm giving you.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Oh my god, that's the moral the story place inappropriate with.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
They're just like, no, that was just nice to you. No, No,
I'm sorry you got up on stage five.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I misread the room. No, it is that is a
sweet thing of like because it could go either way
of like oh you could get a window into someone's
life and it is the scene is not nice and
uh yeah, No, I had a great That was always
such a fun show. It was in the back of
the public House and like that was the only show
I could walk to in La and it was still

(06:31):
like uphill, so I would be soaked I could get
in there. But I'm like, no, I need to walk
to shows with it if it's within like two miles. But yeah,
oh that's sweet. I forgot about that story.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But it made me realize because I'm you know, like
I'm just out and about and now I'm in a relationship.
But I'm like those kind of moments give me like
now with that I'm in a relationship, like little markers
of like oh, those are like nice things to have,
like keeping your partner updated and when you're out like
doing shows like that, because I feel like when I
was younger, I didn't have those models and I was
just thinking when I when you're texting me at like yeah,

(07:01):
it's funny. Now that I'm married and I'm thinking about that,
but just like, oh, that was such a like kind
of little core memory of like, oh, that's like what
a good relationship is. It's just up to it's like, Okay,
I'm gonna be a little late, but you know, just
an update my partner, miss you will be home soon.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, that's that was really nice.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah you aren't like I'm gonna be late and I
don't want to hear it. Okay, yeah, I'm going to
be late and then I'm gonna go to the strip
club and then I'm gonna go I have to do.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Drugs in the park, you know, Yeah it was I
did go home after the show, but yeah, no, I
guess it makes sense where you're like for us, like
we're so used to being out late. But then you know,
if you have like a partner who doesn't who isn't
you know, like that's not part of their second nature.
It's like, oh, yeah, by the way, this, I could
be home at this time, or I could be home later.
So yeah, that's cool. Thank you for telling that story.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
That is Blake's an inspiration to us all.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, I'm thrilled to have both of you here today.
T T. We're going to get to know you a
little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
listeners a couple of those stories we're talking about today.
The Enhanced Games are coming to Vegas, that is Olympics
where you're allowed to do performance enhancing drugs. That those
are going to happen in Las Vegas in twenty twenty

(08:13):
six thanks to wrestling. Yeah, it's like wrestling, ww right,
I don't know they could have made it cool. Like, well,
we'll talk about it, it's being Russians, it's being funded
by Donald Trump Junior, and it's like one of these
like those all the worst you know, libertarian tech bros
are into it, And before like really digging into it,

(08:35):
I was like, I mean, you know, broke clocks right
every once in a while. This is intriguing, I am.
You know, the question that is begged by all of
the like you know, performance enhancing drug testing around the
Olympics is like, how cool would this be if they
were allowed to just like do stuff that made them
like fucking vibrate off of the planet Earth. But I

(08:59):
think there's some issues. Ways, we'll talk about that. We'll
talk about a punk band that just released an album
that smells like Wyneth Poutraw's Vagina Candle. We will talk
about the next Mission Impossible movie, and just generally the
politics of Tom Cruise movies, all of that plenty more.
But first, T T Lee, we like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that's revealing about

(09:22):
who you are?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Oh gosh, this has just happened this morning. So I
googled how to undo delete in a contact on your
iPhone because and this is I'm exposing me, I am like,
you know those reddits when they're like, am I the asshole?
I'm one hundred percent of asshole, just gonna be out
of there.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
But my I'm a much less popular reddit thing.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I'm definitely the asshole here, and you know what, And
I honestly it's okay. Sometimes you got to be the asshole.
And but this is what I did because my my
husband met with and I'm not gonna get into the
whole story, but anyways, he met with an ex who
I said you should meet with her because she had
reached out and after a long time, I'm not talking
and this was like whatever you know there, This was

(10:04):
a lot of childhood thing. But they met and then
they like met for a while and everything was fine.
But I when he came home, I realized. I was like,
and now I think you should never talk to her again.
Like that's how I felt like. I didn't feel that before.
But then I was like, sounds like that was that's good.
And I said you should delete her number, and he
like didn't want to, but I was like he laughed,
and I was like, okay, whatever, delete her number. That

(10:26):
this morning I still was like, you should delete your number.
So then I said, can you give me your phone?
And he was so trusting he just gave it to
me and I deleted it and he got very upset
and he was like, that was very rude, which it was,
but I did want the number off of his phone.
But then after I saw how he was and I betrayed,

(10:46):
the trust was because I don't think he expected me
to do that, which I thought. I mean, that's like
what I what do you think I'm going to do?
I'm asking? Yeah, So then I.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Do phone, Yeah, I don't have you're going to delete
that number off?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
The fuck?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I felt very bad. So then I did google it
and you just shake your phone and it comes back.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
But yeah, shaking the phone thing is so weird that
they're just like the way to like do jump back
at step on your phone. It's just like shake it
like motherfucker. Yeah. I always feel violent. I always. I'm
like you always. Yeah, there's no real like cool way
to do it. Always. Yeah. So yeah, I'm glad that

(11:30):
you're agreeing that you're the asshole in that situation.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I will say when I when I put it back
on his phone, I did say because at first he
was like, that's fine, and then I was like, no,
it'll mean more when you do it. So I do
still expect him to delete it at some point.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Will when you do it is so good? I was
gonna say it's it was a lot that you did,
like a mission impossible style break into his ex's house
to delete his number off her phone. That was impressive. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and on that level, it like kind of wraps back
around to just being awesome again. Yeah, right right.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
We had to cut that part of the story for time,
but there was a whole thing and yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Involved, yeah, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Underrated? I wrote down two things. I wrote down sex
streams and landing page websites, which I just missed, like
going somewhere online, like you know when you like log
on and now it's all social media, but I'm like,
I just want to go to a page like how
kind of how like how cracked was or you know
that you.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Had a page that you just were like, what are
they up to?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
You can hang out and stuff and it's not just news,
it's things, and yeah I missed that. I don't know
if there's a place everyone's hanging out, but I am
not invited, So let me know if there's a website
we're all hanging out at that isn't our own social media's.
And then also sex streams because I don't know, I
just uh, and maybe this is a merry thing, but
I feel like I have less sex streams. But then

(12:58):
recently I did have one and I was like, oh,
these are fun, and I think I had more of
them when I was younger, in my twenties, and maybe
I am just dating myself because I'm getting older, but I.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Don't know, they're underrated.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I feel like when we were younger, we're like, oh,
sex rooms are funny, but now as an adult, you're like,
I don't know, they add some liveliness to your night,
Like why not watch a raunchy movie while you're in bed?
Why not wake up and feel nice. I don't know.
It's a little different for my automatic. My anatomy is
a little different for you guys than you guys I think,
so it might have different consequences for all of you

(13:34):
out there. But I wake up and you know, I
can just start my day. I don't feel like do
any laundry.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So it's like that term like sober people use, like
a free lapse where like if you have like like
surgery or something, you have to like go under some
medicine where it's like that, but with married people where
it's like cheating for free.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Saying who the sex rooms were about? Okay, no, but
just in general, like it's just the idea of a Yeah,
it's just fun to be like, yeah, because I think
when you're with someone's like different because you don't have
the newness of like like discovering something. So yeah, yeah,
sex dreams are underrated.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's interesting, Yeah, because you do just travel to a
different world, like it seems real, and then you wake up,
You take off your breathing machine.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
We all take off our breathing machine. We surface to
the level of the black goo that we submerged ourselves
in as we go to sleep at night.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, rise from my coffin.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, exactly. I love the ideas. Blake and I are
constantly having wet dreams late. Yeah, I'm just kind.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
You only took one class in an eighth grade about
the male body, and that's that's where we stopped.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I'm burning through three pairs of boxers a night over
on this.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
And you do mean yeah, yeah, it's a problems.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Ye dreams are crazy that we just have movies and
sometimes our brains, Like, here's a porno one for you,
have a great night. What is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Okay, I wrote this down and I was like, people
might get mad, but it just came from because I
didn't have time to like, I just like this is
from the gut. I think the Brina Carpenter is overrated.
Oh I know, and I'm already like regretting saying it,
but it is my truth and I don't even like
It's not that I don't like her. I just I
think there's this like stardom that happens now that I

(15:35):
think she's great, but I think the level of stardom
that happens in the few years to become these megastars
because of I don't know, digital consumption, it feels blown
out of proportion compared to the artists we saw growing
up that like we've tracked over career and watched them
really rise and hone their talent. But specifically it's a

(15:57):
Brina Carpenter, but she kind of represents that from I
don't know, because I see her everywhere and she's cool,
but like I I don't I don't know. I'm just like,
why is she that big? She's fine. I feel like
I'm gonna I'm already saying this and I'm gonna like
get backlash. But you know, I think she's overrated. I

(16:17):
don't think she's a bad singer. I just when I
hear her early stuff, I don't hear like she didn't
find her voice for a while, and now her whole
thing has just kind of being like she's got a
look and she's funny, which I think is cool, But
like as a singer, I don't really know, like I
don't really know where her voice is.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Mm hmmm. It is weird, like who gets anointed the
next thing where I'm sure there's like a hundred, you know,
like Cybrina Carpenter Ayprina Carpenter Bees, you know, like like
a bunch of different ones. So but I'm but I
think she's great.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I like her.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I just she's so big or maybe I'm maybe I'm
just getting a lot of it on TikTok, but I
am getting a level of Sabrina makes it look like
she's like Brittany, and I don't feel like she's our Brittany.
Like I don't think she's there. Unless I'm being naive,
but I feel like we saw, like, you know, like
and before Brittany, there's a Madonna, and people compared Brittany
to Madonna, and they compared her early and I think

(17:15):
she rose to that. So maybe Sabrina will rise to that.
But I feel like she's getting that kind of exposure
where I'm not seen as an artist. It feels like manufacturer,
like the people around her like, let's keep making money
off of this person, as opposed to like she's like,
this is what I want to do next.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, no, in Jack that Sabrina Carpenter is a pop star.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Who is She's not a Carpenter. Sorry, I was over
here at Google. I'm trying to find out trying to
find some of her work. She's yeah, she has a.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Neo baby, she's related to Jesus.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, like Nick Offerman. And then I was trying to
find out if this was another one of these Carpenters.
I know, I don't know enough about Sabrina Carpenter to
like hold day strong opinion. I know the song is pressed,
and I know Miles was just talking about the fact
that there's a part of that song where she goes
Kazama singer.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
And see, I do like that those little moments she
has some funny I think she's getting into like she's
exploring her voice and that funny part is coming out more.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
But yeah, but yeah, it does feel like, you know,
the eighties monoculture where it was like Madonna and Michael
Jackson and that's plenty. We have all the we have
all the artists that we need, and then it's been
just like a fracturing into like all the pieces of
those artists just like break out into different musicians and
they all become big and everybody buys all the albums,

(18:38):
and I don't know, it seems to be working out
for them, but I feel you.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I do hope it's working out for them. I mean,
I think it's working out for her. But it does
scare me about the industry a bit, because I think
it's becoming more and more the same people behind the
scenes making money and they'll just throw her away or
put someone else new out there and hopefully she you know,
it's savvy. But it does scare me a bit the
way they turn people out.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
You typically a fan of, like is Brittany. The previous
version of this that you're like, this is, this is
how it's done, this is and I don't look I'm swist.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I went to Taylor's, so I don't you know, I'm
not like here to like I'm not saying like, oh
my god, Sabrina Carpenter a girly pop like that's not
really what I'm trying to say, but I think I
don't know, maybe it's something. Wow, this feels like therapy,
maybe something more sinister. I feel about the industry like
it's like as it's falling apart and they're taking away
from new independent artists. They are also like slapping, like

(19:35):
you know, people like Sabrina, she's going to make a
lot from it, but they're not necessarily have her best
interests at her. And I feel like you see that
with Chaperone, but she's more vocal about it. But it
feels like there's something like crumpling in the back and
that scares me. And meanwhile, everyone's just like money, money,
you give me more. But no, to answer your question,

(19:56):
I love pop, all right. I mean I had a
podcast about Ariana Grande, so that's right.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, sorry, on a ground day, is the is the truth?
And Sabrina Carpenter is.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Against each other. No, I'm not going to pick a.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Woman against you can like both.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
But Ariana's voice, I will say, it's very consistent from
the beginning. Like you hear her voice and it's like,
you're like, that's why that that needs to be recorded?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I hear her sing and I'm like, why
she got to show off like that? Yeah, but she's
a She's a great singer, Serena Carpenter. The only other
thing I'm aware of, other than because I'm a singer,
is the there seems to be a meme linking her
as like the Hillary Clinton via with the substance, Like
if if Hillary Clinton took the substance, she would be

(20:45):
super Carpenter.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I have not seen that, and that is interesting.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
I see that a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
To me, I see that a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I see that. I see it everywhere I see it. Ever, anyways,
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
we'll talk about the Enhanced Games. We'll be right back

(21:12):
and we're back, And had you guys heard of this?
The enhanced Games? An Olympics where a substance, Yeah, basically
the Olympics on steroids. Literally, my first thought on this
is They're like, it's terrible that our world is run
by a bunch of men who are developmentally emotional and

(21:38):
mental children, Like it's bad in so many ways, and
then like there will be like the occasionally fun thing
that happens, and I don't think we should deny ourselves
the ability to look at the fun thing and be like, well,
at least this is a thing that we can look
at in horror and be entertained by. I don't think
it's actually going to be entertaining however, on the execution,

(22:01):
but just generally, I feel like I'm grouping this in
in the world with like Alcatraz being opened again by
Donald Trump and military parade, just like things that like
five to eleven year old boys are going to be
like yo, sick. You know, it is interesting.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
He's so close with I don't know if he still is,
but with Vince bookmahon, but like it really feels like
one of those like it's like entertainment sports, right, which
is like, ww did that really well? For whatever? You know,
all their controversies, but they're basically like what if we
could just do all of this? It's you know, they're
these strong men on drugs and make them do cool things.

(22:45):
Are crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, it is a step away from like, oh, we
could have a guy fight a gorilla, you know, like
we can have I think this is like.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
The hundred guys and a gorilla.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
One hundred guys in a gorilla, because they can't do that,
because even they for some reason can't find a loophole
into like beating on animals. That's their next thing.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I can't trump.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's the fourth trunk, the fourth Reich. And so they
are like, okay, like why don't we just juice up
these guys. When you said five to eleven year old boys,
I thought you were gonna say five foot eleven men.
Is just men who are five foot eleven almost six
feet and to get that extra inch, they're gonna get

(23:28):
jacked up on steroids and it's.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
It's dangeroussles at the bottom of their feet. Can see
them rising up as they Yeah, I don't know. It's
obviously intriguing when when you see how adamant the Olympic
committees are about like they're not being drugs and you know,
drug testing, It's like, man, so like what but what if?

(23:55):
What if?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Not?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Like what if we were able to just see what
those people would do. I think the two problems with
this actually being as fun as it seems like in
theory it would be. One. Obviously, it's like really bad
for the people's health. Blah blah blah. It's gonna hurt people.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
A lot of athletes like will take it take steroids
off season, right, this is kind of a thing. I mean,
maybe not Olympics because they're so they have to like
be ready to be tested at any point. But I'm
guessing what this league people are going to push the
limits and not.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Just do it. Yeah, this is the main reason that
I don't think it's gonna works. It's that everybody already cheats. Yea,
like the actual Olympic athletes. When you hear people who
like understand how the sport works, almost in every instance,
they're like, yeah, no, it's just you have to be

(24:49):
an incredible athlete and very good and sophisticated at cheating,
Like those are the two things that make you a
good Olympic athlete. And so I think what this is
going to reveal is probably just that like all Olympians
are already juicing or like already using performance enhancing drugs.

(25:10):
Just they they can't use them like right up to
the starting gun, but they do use them, and you know,
there are ways to get around the testing. And then
you're also having to choose from a pool of athletes
who are just like willing to be like yeah, fuck it,
I don't got anything else going on, you know, because

(25:30):
they can't go back on the right. Yeah. Once you
do this, you're basically giving up the dream. So I
feel like it's probably not going to be not going
to be the highest level of athlete. So I feel
like it'll just like even out and you'll end up
with people who are about as good as It'll just
be like the Olympics, but like.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Regular people who want to be Olympians.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah. Yeah, everyone the Olympics, but everyone's eyes are yellow
like whatever and tiny balls. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
It reminds me of like you know, those comedy shows
where they'd be like, oh, everyone's stoned or everyone's drunk,
everyone's on mushrooms. Yeah, there is something like you said,
like entertaining about like Okay, let's all get in the
ring and everyone's just gonna like cheat and see what happens.
But it's uh less about the sports medical supervision. Yeah,

(26:25):
there's like yes, exactly like the comedy shows, you know. Yeah,
like that video I did for Cracked when Jack was
my boss who was responsible for that by the way.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
But yeah, I was like, which one of you am
I gonna have to drug to get a hit video here?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
But it does make me think, like what if they
did stuff like that for Like what if they did
like science and posiums and everyone was on acid and mushrooms,
Like that would be cool. Let's watch a bunch of
like Nata people space people get high and talk about space.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know, much better because yeah, we're talking about steroids.
But that's a good point. Like what if there is
a street drug?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh yeah, could you just be on molly and like
I'm gonna do the triple job.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Like that's what it should be, like it should be
like just any drug. But like they're specific because it's
being run by like Donald Trump Junior is one of
the funders, so they're like, we will be doing absolutely
no illicit drugs and any enhancement routines will be done
like strictly like with doctor supervision, which I guess again, yeah,
like good, probably better for the health of the people

(27:27):
they have Also, like you know, because it's being run
by people who are generally pretty incompetent, like Donald Trump Junior,
Like they don't know that this is the one like
fun idea they have. They're just gonna like do a
bad job with this one as well. And so the
only the only things that are like part of it

(27:48):
so far are swimming, sprinting, and lifting, which don't feel
like they're gonna be much different to watch, Like watching
a swimming race where people are on like even the
best that sounds like they're gonna be like launching out
of the pool like dolphins. You know, it's just like
a normal swimming race at like one point one speed

(28:08):
at best case scenario. You know, reading is one.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I want to see, Like I don't know, something where
there's a contact sport.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
You know, yeah, like baseball in like, because that's my
reference for it, was like in the early two thousands,
it was like steroids were rampant in baseball, and if
you look back on it, you're like, oh, yeah, that
guy's a steroids. That guy's head grew, like you see
it before or after, it's like, oh it's head. It's
twice the size that you can't grow ahead, you know, Yeah,

(28:40):
go ahead, No, And I was just going to say
that I don't know if like those I almost called
them exercises, those sports that you outlined aren't like, uh,
like you don't want to be a big, massive, roided
out guy in a pool, like you'll sink. You know,
you'll try, so like weightlifting makes sense. But I feel
like that's their mistake is that if you're gonna do

(29:01):
this moronic thing, just make it all like big buff
buff daddy, you know, stuff like weird shit like that.
And professional wrestling there should be a professional who acts
the best.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, there should just be like person throwing where they're
just like spin someone around and then try and toss
them as far as they can. But just like go like,
don't if you're going to do this, go full World
Wrestling Federation or Entertainment or whatever the fuck it's called.
You know, like bring in man as a as a consultant,

(29:38):
Donald Trump Junior. It does feel like, I don't know,
he's like a walking restaurant idea from a cocaine binge.
So but I feel like this doesn't have enough cocaine
energy like that in execution, like the idea has cocaine energy,
but then the execution is just like and we're gonna
have like scientific you know rigor to this to see,

(30:01):
like they did a test swim, like they they did
some early preliminary things with athletes who are willing to
do it, and like they used you know, enhancement routine
and like somebody one of the swimmers like came close
to or like might have like slightly beat a world record.

(30:22):
But they also had like some illegal like wetsuit on.
So it's just like there's a lot of there's like
a lot of things you can do. It's like, you know,
if they.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Should do a no rules one, if that's the whole idea, right, yeah,
then we just like have rockets, sneakers, just fast. It
is interesting that they're trying to present it as like
a like a competitor for the Olympics, because that's a
lot of the news that I'm on BBC. They're talking
about how it'll be they expect it or you know this.
Most people were saying like we think it'll be Olympics,

(30:52):
and then you can also play in this league. And
it's like I don't think like you're saying Jack, like
if it really is just all these rules, but you
can dope up. I don't think it's going to have
the appeal of Olympics, but if it is so different
where it's like anything goes fire, like sabotage your opponents,
you know, Like I mean I probably wouldn't watch it,
but like somebody would, you know, that's like my god

(31:12):
death games.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Here's here's another thought too, where it's like I don't
even know if I made this joke earlier. I'm not
I'm not well in my head, but I if I
didn't say this, it reminds me of like because Russia
got banned from a couple Olympics because all their athletes
were doping. So I wonder if this is another way,
like if this ends up being another way for Trump
to kiss Russia's ass where all the athletes are just

(31:36):
Russian Russian athletes because they're juicing anyway, and you know.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
They're the best, the best. Yeah, it is like a
very Trump world idea, and like he the guy who
is behind it, is like I've had the great fortune
of you know, just like doing all the ass kissing
of like the Trump administration and how great it is
for America.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So what sport would you So if you could have
like superpowers to be really good at one sport? Which
one would you compete in?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Superpowers to be really good at one of these sports?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Or you could have yeah, like the flowers for Aldronon.
I guess if you could do steroids, But I'm not
because I don't really know how steroids affect each sport.
But let's say you're like suddenly good at one of
these you could cheat, which which one would you do?

Speaker 4 (32:18):
It's a great question. I think it would probably be sprinting, right, sprinting, swimming,
or lifting, weightlifting? I mean, yeah, probably sprinting, Like that's
just I feel like that comes in candy so so much.
Maybe weight, like being strong is like a real superpower,
Like that's so yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I feel like because you're always at the edge, I
feel like that's the problem with it. People watch you
lift it, but if you're lifting out your limit, you
always feel tired, right, like you're not like this is lazy,
Like you're always going to be pushing yourself.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
But I would do I would be like a fucking
couches and stuff all the time.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Just you would you just work for a moving company,
that's what you want to do.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's like I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Can't really help run the house moving they multiple hurdles
at the same time. Yeah, did you really?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
I did?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I was not very good. Uh, and then I ended
up just quitting track to do dance, which was a
much better fit for me. But I was like, I
had good form, so they would always be like, but
I wasn't fast, so when I ran, I just would
end up either having good form or sacrificing that and
just hitting every hurdle and running.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Slowly.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like a dancer, so I was like, you know,
perfectly straight leg bend behind me, but it was like
slow and graceful. So I did not place well. But
hurdles is fun. I think I would do archery if
I could do, because it's just the feeling of the Olympic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I guess not one of these running. Maybe swimming, that.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Would be funny. If the one that like has changed
the most by performing dancing is.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Everyone makes everything.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, I do have a new I feel like. The
sport at the last Olympics that went up the most
in my estimation was the pistol shooting, the target shooting,
where that one guy just like did it with like
a hangover and his hand in his pocket and jeans
like the the really like advanced people had like all

(34:12):
this equipment on that like stabilized their arm and like
these like weird future like RoboCop glasses that were like
only on one eye. And then this guy just like
came up and with like just looking like stepped on
ship literally like had the had the energy of John
McClean and Diehard being like, my wife just left me.

(34:33):
And then in the postgame interview he was like, my
wife just left me, and she took the dog, she
took the gun, she took the family gun with her.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
So I put this gun.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, anyways, that that would be a fun one, I
don't think. I guess probably useful to be good at
in this modern day and age.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Harder, shoot hard, so hard.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, let's let's talk about this new punk album that
I'm not familiar with the band. I am familiar with
the scent of the album, though you personally, unfortunately not personally.
I've just had to do it the way everybody else
has and spend thousands of dollars to buy one of

(35:20):
these candles. I actually didn't know the second like I
knew the first act of this story that Gwyneth Paltrow
put a candle on the market in Goop that was
called this candle smelled like my vagina. I did not
know that it sold out so fast that they're like
a black market sprung up and it was like going
for seven hundred and fifty dollars a candle afterwards, How.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Could you even trust that because like if you buy
it from Goop, you know it's from Goop, that someone
could just be like this is the group, you know candle,
And if you've never smelled it before, how would you
even know if it was a fake?

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Great point. I think it was like a resale market,
like the way that like sneakers.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Like you could just fake it, like this smells like vagina.
How are you going to know?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's a weird authentication job. You know, It's like, could
I please authenticate the sneakers? I have to authenticate these disgusting.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
That's what Chris Martin's up to these days. Cold Player
last album kind of flopped, So I'm just authenticating candles.
But yeah, this punk band is called let Me See
Yeah now so she Paltrow was recently talking about the

(36:36):
candle at the recent Manifesting summit, which I feel like, Blake,
you were at the Manifesting summit, right or you were
supposed to like give a keynote there.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
It was such a blur and it's such a fun weekend,
and yeah, it just goes by so quickly. I wish
it was longer, but I was. I was there for
all the Manifesting.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah, so we got a little insight into how the
product came about. That product is so fascinating because we
were messing around with different scents one day and I
smelled something and I was like, oh, that smells like
you know which I feel like you named the candle.
This smells like my vagina. So you don't need to, like,
what are you talking about censor it when you're talking

(37:15):
about it in the interview. But then she said that
she feels like selling that candle was punk rock because
women's sexuality is like supposed to be shameful, and so
she was like, I think it'd be funny if I
did this, which, sure, I don't know that selling a
seventy five dollars candle is necessarily punk rock. But so
there's this punk group in Australia, Private Function. They have

(37:39):
a new album that is the shrugging hands up emoji
like Sideway smile, and it has a scratch and sniff
center that makes it smell like Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina. They
literally had they hired a perfumery from Paris to like

(38:00):
look into this and make sure that it actually like
had all the elements of the candle. And they're saying
this is for class solidarity. You know, you shouldn't have
to be rich to have something in your house that
smells like Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina, which is a great respect.
You've always said that, Blake, is this a pop band? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Sorry, no, no, no, no, no, Jack's right. I do always
say that.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Now please, Yes, you've been saying that is this punk band?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Female punk band?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Or yes?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Male?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah? Private punk? That's good.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That helps, That does help, That does help.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, that would not be great. Just a sweaty guy.
The guitarist said, this was potentially the greatest thing any
speaking of the candle, the greatest thing anyone had ever done,
and everyone at private function was beyond impressed. We immediately
tried to buy one, but due to the overwhelming demand,
it sold out instantly. They now sell for over seven
hundred dollars each. Seven hundred dollars to smell Gwyneth Paltrow's

(39:03):
vagina is quite frankly classist, and we at private function
think that every working class person deserves to have access
to that smell twenty four hours a day. So congratulations
to everyone lucky enough to score a goopy record. You
now own a scratch and sniff record that smells like
Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina, So you know, it's a beautiful punk.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Rock smell chained if you scratch it a lot.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, I am possible to
say because I just got mine, so I've only scratched
it for like twenty four hours in a row.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
But right, I wonder of the music, so you if
it's timed with me, like, you can't do it. You
can't scratch it while you're listening to it, so there's
no there's no crossover function. It's just dual, dual utility.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
That's a good question. I put pants on mine because
I'm a bit of a prude, so you know, and
I also left it out in the sun, so it
doesn't really yeah, but yeah, keep it, keep it in
a cold, dark place.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
It's interesting that I never heard her quote about the
punk rock because I agree with you Jacket's like, the
whole idea of Goop is not punk rock. But it's
interesting to hear a frame like that because I think
when it first came out, I just said the same
thoughts everyone else did, which is like, why and she's
just doing her weird woo woo wellness thing. But there's
something there is something interesting about the idea of like,

(40:23):
you know, neutralizing how people feel, or not neutralizing, but
like owning the idea that, especially if she grew up
in Hollywood when when it was much more misogynists. Well
arguably right, but just like you know, people making just
even comedy clubs jokes about fishy vaginas and things like
that and smells and so there. I think that that

(40:44):
does make me like her a little more for doing that,
But I also do think that it's not punk rock.
But because.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Yeah, exactly, I like the quote. I wish it wasn't
about a candle that costs seventy five dollars, but I
wish it wasn't made at the Manifesting Company, right, which probably,
like you know, requires three thy five hundred dollars to
like just attend at the lowest level where they like
throw food at you instead of like feed you.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
But you are allowed to do drugs at that one.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
So yes, yes, that is true. The best. I like
to go to the manifesting conference and just take E.
Let's uh, let's take a quick break. Well I'll take
E and we'll be back to talk about Mission impossible

(41:41):
and we're back.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
God, that's good.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Eat.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, that is that is for sending that over.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Color.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Been called molly for like twenty years. What I call
it because I'm old back hey, speaking of being old,
I do. There's a new study out of the UK
where they asked people sixteen to twenty one years old
would they rather live in a world without the Internet,

(42:09):
like if they could just have no digital technology, would they?
And forty six percent said they would rather be young
in a world without the Internet altogether. And I'm curious what,
just to get everybody's thoughts on, would you take that
like I think I would? Would you take it all
back now, just like hard reset to analog technology circa

(42:34):
like I don't know. Nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Was the question was it be young without inn? Was
that the question without it.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Just like not every the Internet goes away.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Tomorrow, I would not. I mean, I think there's a
lot of issues at the Internet. I do really love
and I think it defines our specific millennial generation growing
up with it. I mean I went to computer camp
when I was like seven at Stanford, and so very
much was like like it was cool to watch the
Internet unfold and see, you know, all it's maybe gotten

(43:08):
out of hand now, but there was something really cool
about like plugging into the world as everyone was plugging
into each other. That was very exciting and I feel
like as a core part of our generation. But yeah,
I didn't have TikTok when I was in middle school,
thank god. And I wouldn't do middle school with YouTube
or TikTok because yeah, so I think we had a

(43:28):
limited amount of Internet and that was good. So maybe
I don't know, maybe I would control the amount of Internet.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I think we're the age too of like we might
be the best generation to ask this for because we
are like right in the middle where we do like
remember a more analog life, but we had both, Like
I do think about for you, like with your kids,
I think being a kid right now with the Internet,
like you know, with social media and stuff, is a

(43:55):
fucking that's so scary to me. And I don't know
how you do it with like you know, how you
control that with your kids, Jack. But I think being
young now with the Internet, like with the Internet the
way it is, I would be like, oh, that's scary
to me. Yeah, but I'm with you t t that
I would still want it, Like I would still keep

(44:16):
the Internet even with all that all the.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Yeah, there's like a lot of ways that it cuts
out the gatekeepers and you know, all the like monoculture
like bullshit where like just a handful of you know,
white guys have all the power to like tell people
like make decisions about what people watch and stuff. But
there's just so many, so many ways. It's it's probably
just a thing where we're like early stages of getting

(44:41):
this right and we just it's just very wrong right now.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
But maybe there would be like a reset, reset in
terms of the way we use it, you know, because
there was a lot of stuff like we did well
like before YouTube became this giant conglomerate and that's you know,
it's all ads. You were discovering really silly songs and
playing them for our friends and just literally, like I
remember college parties were just playing YouTube videos for each

(45:05):
other and that like that felt punk rock at the time.
It's like, you know, I don't know, it was interesting,
like there was something we were discovering together, which I
don't think is how people use the internet now.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, have you seen that movie Hannah
where the guy like raises his daughter out in the wilderness,
was like no technology and stuff like that. I'm not
that bad, but like I'm pretty uh, I don't really
have my kids on screens very much because yeah, it
just seems seems precarious.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Well, give you basically give children like a microphone to
the whole world when you and a receiver, right when
you give them social media, and it's like we wouldn't
just put children or adults, but we wouldn't just put
anyone on TV or on the radio when they're like
five into the talk, you know. But that's what that's
what happening. Access to social media and the internet is
like for children.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I think there are also better pop culture examples than
the movie Hannah, where the guy trains his daughter to
be a killer. She's like, I don't know if the
world class assassin who just like doesn't have the Internet,
and I'm like, yeah, so I'm pulling that thing from
it and then a real career.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
How do you control their use of internet? They're your
oldest your kids aren't school.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
They're nine and seven.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so limited outside of the home, because
I feel like once they're in school, they're sort of
like that's how do you control that?

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Yeah, you just have to like talk to your teachers
and they I mean they're they're generally not on the internet,
like obviously they use like some screens for education. But yeah, no,
no fun answer to this other than just like yeah,
you I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Allowed to watch MTV. But I would just like like.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
We're going to be that family like that. That's I'm realizing,
Like my cousins grew up in a house where like
they didn't have a TV, and like they I would
like tell my friends about it. I'd be like, I
have cousins who like don't have a TV like in
their house. They just like don't have one, and everyone's
like what the fuck? And that's like kind of I

(47:12):
think what my kids are gonna end up being like
because I'm just not gonna get them phones or you know,
I'll get them like flip phones, and they won't walkie talkies.
Be on the internet. Yeah, they'll be all like make stuff,
but they can't be like on the internet on social
media and shit, because it just seems bad. I don't
I have yet to hear somebody who's like, it's actually
really cool for them, Like it's really good for the kids.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
That's the thing too, because like it gets rid of
the gatekeepers, which is great, but then you see these
like white supremacist twitch streamer people and it's like, well,
not everybody needs a voice, Like that guy doesn't need
a voice for sure. This person who's not a doctor
who's giving medical advice is not to serve a voice.
So yeah, that's that's the part of it. That's the
double edged sword.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Great pronunciation of swords.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Thank you so much. I was allowed to watch v
H one, but I couldn't watch to watch MTV. Yeah,
that was the rule.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
That's a that's a line that I feel like a
lot of people. I could only.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Watch PBS and not Cartoon Network or any of the
other cartoons. But I do think that's why I love
like I was, I love writing kids animation, and I
still very much look at like cartoons right now as
like entertaining as an adult. And I think part of
that is because it tapped into my independence. Whenever I
was allowed to watch Cartoon Network, it be like at
a friend's house or like my grandma's you know, but

(48:33):
just never at home. And I don't know, there's something
about like I wonder what are these kids will be
like when they're older and what they'll connect to the Internet.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, Like I think parents who like wouldn't let people
watch MTV were like wrong in our generation, and I'm
like going to be that parent, going to be like
no YouTube, But it just it freaks me out a
little bit. I mean I'm also like at the very
beginning here.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
So yeah, well, there are a lot of bad actors
on the internet targeting children, and that I think that
is a bigger problem than before because with MTV, it's
like you might say, like, oh, the back for the kids,
but there was like you know, curation and executives and
people held responsible. And now there are like actual bad actors,
actual Nazis, yeah, yeah, and propaganda and robots and things

(49:21):
that are actively targeting young minds that don't know how
to discern.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Well, speaking of propaganda, we should talk about the latest
Mission Impossible is coming out this weekend. It's the final
Mission Impossible.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
If you believe, by the way, than you should get
the AI function where you look like Tom Cruise.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, this is actually just an AI version of Jack.
It's not it's not actually me. They just like this Jack. Yeah,
it's a new it's a new function that they've added.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
This one so much better.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Jack's sick. But the first movie came out in nineteen
ninety six. This is gonna be the final one. Obviously,
the first movie was dated by like landlines and floppy disks,
but it was ahead of its time in that John
Voight plays a complete piece of shit. So it was
the first time that we got to see John Voight
as the human monster that he actually is.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Now, that's a bad actor, go ahead, Jack.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Hey, and that is a bad actor before the Internet.
But people asked Tom Cruise, he's been like kind of
all over the place, do we think, did you guys
see him eating popcorn?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Did you see what it was like?

Speaker 4 (50:35):
He just like whips like an individual piece of popcorn
at his mouth, like want at a time in like
quick succession, and it's just like, yeah, and try and
picture the most intense way to eat popcorn that you
could possibly imagine, and that's obviously what he's doing. I'm
curious if that was a thing where they were like, hey,
could you like do something weird with the popcorn? We

(50:57):
feel like that will get people talking about you. Because
he's also like this is on the same tour where
he's like climbing rooftops and fucking like jumping out of
planes and just trying to kill himself over and over
again in fun entertain ways. Yeah, but somebody was like, oh,
is this gonna be you know, this movie is made

(51:17):
all over the place and like lots of different locations.
Will it be affected by the tariffs? And he was like,
we'd rather answer questions about the movie thank you and
thank you. But he he's like weirdly a political Like
he's been in things that clearly have a political bench,
like the Top Gun movies are essentially funded by the Pentagon,

(51:43):
and but they're also like the second always a.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Faceless, right, Isn't that a whole point he makes is
like there's like, I mean, it feels very like obviously
American military propaganda. But he'll stay never fighting.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
They're fighting, they're just enemy.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's how they and that's kind of
how the like Mission Impossible movies are like they just
try and always have it both ways. But yeah, you're right,
like Top gam Maverick was they specifically like didn't even
say what the other country was. They're just like, and
we have a target behind enemy alignes, you know, the
way that people would talk about a thing. They wouldn't

(52:22):
they wouldn't. We don't want to get specific here. No,
isn't he not allowed to.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Read the news though? I mean is that I mean,
still is he still with is he still with signology?
Like I remember the I just explode into a bunch
of Dayden's or whatever, the.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Focused energy being that just comes from Tom Cruise, just
from his sheer magnetism.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Like my understanding what he doesn't really have access to
the same information we do. I mean, he obviously has,
you know, a very bubble life, and I think he's okay,
I hope, but uh, I hope blink. But but yeah,
I understanding is he not like plugged in?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Yeah? I think that's probably like it's that's why I
think it's That's why I think it's interesting to think
about Hit the political content of his movies because so
like he made Top Gun a top Gun, by the way,
named after a real military Air Force program that was
literally created during Vietnam in order to improve the Navy's
kill ratio, like in in the Vietnam War. But then

(53:33):
like a couple of years after that, he starred in
Born on the fourth of July, directed by Oliver Stone,
like a complete anti war movie that Oliver Stone specifically
like cast him because he thought it would be funny
to like put the guy from Top Gun, which he
called a fascist film, in a anti war movie, but
mission impossible. Specifically are I don't know, they have this

(53:57):
like weird thing where I think the show that they're
based on was specifically sort of inspired by this guy,
Robert Mayhew, who was basically the CIA's fixer, Like we
hear the fixer, which is like the guy who does
the dirt for an organization famous for like doing the

(54:19):
world's doing capitalism's dirt. Like you have to be like
there's just all sorts of you know, hiring the mafia
to kill Fidel Castro quote, lining up sex workers for
foreign dignitaries. There's a new book that claims he was
involved in the assassination of Bobby Kennedy and the First
Mission A Possible movie was made with the help of

(54:40):
the CIA's Public Affairs office. Specifically, they were like, well,
holy shit, we'd like to be involved in helping you
shape the public perception of the agency. And then when
you like kind of look at the content of the movies,
it's always this weird thing where they are both an
Intelli Gents agency, but they're also like fighting the American

(55:04):
Intelligence Agency. Like that. It's always somehow like a double
cross so that they can never be seen as like
just being the CIA. You know. It's always like, well,
we've got to do got to sneak sneak in here,
and like do the skunk works.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
There's always that kind of map, like the sort of
like oh, they said stand down, it's like no, I'm
gonna do it anyway.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Yeah, I'll do it anyway. Let's get Langley on the phone,
and he's like too, He's really like when you think
about it, he's like kind of punk rock.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
He's so punk rock that that was the word I
was trying to think of. He's punk rock.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That's gonna be funny if just one of the things
was just about him shooting John F. Kennedy top guns laughing.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Imagine that movie, Like imagine you don't know who the
target is behind the enemy lines, but those lines are
in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah, just texting, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, that's the big reveal.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
That actually would be pretty good, like sick just like
an Ocean's eleven style caper where they're like just trying
to plan the jack assassination.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Do you think we should shoot one more? Do you
think we should shoot one more?

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Let's go a second ship's good shooters on grassing. Just
make sure they're ingrassing noll covered clothing. But yeah, the franchise,
first post nine eleven movie, he is arrested by the
IMF and like forced to endure enhanced interrogation, so like
just like have it both ways, you know, like there

(56:33):
and also like at the end of that, the IMF,
that's like the name of his agency, I think, want
to like plant a super weapon in a Middle Eastern
country in order to justify an invasion. So basically just
like the bad guy is the George W. Bush administration.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
But yeah, it's so were those also working with the government,
or they sort of took off.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
I don't know, like yeah, at that point they probably
didn't need like funding or consultation from the CIA. But
it does seem like when you just think about the
overall impression that you get from the movies, it's like, yeah,
the CIA has like got some bad guys, but there's
also good guys working the.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Like you get a price essentially because you want him
to win, but you're also like, oh, you know, we
all don't like authority, but at the end of the day,
the authority, you know, still accepts him once they saw that.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
He was right. Or like when a CIA agent's kid
catches them like disposing of a body in their backyard,
the thing that they like will tell their kid is
it's complicated, you know that, Like, well, it's a complicated
world where like this this person was a bad guy
that you know before they have to like kill their kid,
that's what they shovel. And I'm going to put you

(57:49):
in the same hole.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I wonder because it's interesting this administration is much more
hands on with like media and press, and I do
see us going closer to like how China is where
they late everything that comes out. I think it would
be naive to assume we didn't do anything like that before.
I think you're right Jack that even with without funding,
and I think with big movies like this, there's probably
some level of like transparency, like the government or CIA

(58:13):
you know, watches it because I imagine even if something
gets close to something that's actually happening, they probably would
be like, you have to kill that storyline. But I
just scare me a bit how much we're going into
this world where we're just everything's going to be monitored
and changed. Or maybe we're already are, but that's literally
we talked about free speed, but that's literally like all

(58:35):
these countries that regulate art and media, we're just doing that.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely we've like turned a corner where,
you know, with the like CBS News thing that's happening
right now, where that you know it's a they can't
reach out and directly kill a story, but they can
use the machinations of you know, Trump being able to

(59:01):
do corruption without any any consequences whatsoever, and just being
like I'm going to make it so you can't like
do the merger that you want to do. If you
write a bad story about me and then like, yeah,
it's essentially the same thing as having a government propaganda
office or like somebody who's just reviewing everything to make

(59:22):
sure that it's friendly. It's a good world. So yeah,
this is in many ways just world. Just pointing this
out is like nostalgic for a time when, like you,
when they weren't just like yeah, no, we want to
make a movie where the Cia is the hero, which
is probably where we're headed for. Well t t What
a pleasure of having you as always on the podcast

(59:43):
Lovely Where can people find you? Follow you all that
good stuff? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Actually I'm doing a Hollywood fringe that you live in LA.
I have a discount code. I'm going to do four
shows in June as my solo show I took to
Edinburgh last year. It's called Good Girl Gone Battie Comedy.
It's about me discovering my drag identity after my little
brother died. There's some emotional parts, but a lot of fun,
a lot of dancing, and there are boobs, so don't

(01:00:09):
bring your kids. The code is Zeit Gang all Capital
and you can you can find me, oh yeah, find
me online, so you can well don't find me in person,
find me or find me in person at the show.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Find me in person at the show, find me online
to get tickets at Teresa Lee bought on Instagram, and
I'm not really using any other social medias, but if
you find me, you can follow me on the other
ones too.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
There you go. That sounds good. Is there a work
of media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Well, okay, you know a work of media because I
just I just watched the Penguins documentary on Disney, which
I highly recommend just generally getting into penguins. Every once
in a while, I get into an animal and just
search those videos on TikTok and it's just like a
nice way to like look at animals and connect and learn.
I don't know, that's like my Discovery channel. But there's

(01:01:03):
the Dock on Disney Plus. I think it's been out
for a while, but it's called I think it's literally
called Penguins and they follow these penguins around. But the part,
if you watch the whole thing, watch till the end
during the credits, because my favorite part is at the
end where they show the crew filming it and you
see just because it's beautiful and you know, you think
they must have all this high tech equipment that zooms

(01:01:24):
in and whatever, but then they show them behind the
scenes and it's literally the crew is just like hanging
out with penguins in this vast arctic and the penguins
just like walk up to them and walk past. And
it's really cool to see how it was done because
you really realize, like, oh, they were right there hanging
out with.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
The penguins to hang out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So just watch the end, just watch the credits part
that that part's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
You'll get it. You'll go yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
And then this thread okay, wait, this is the one
that I found that I was gonna say, it's okay
from at Mimi Blair. Everyone is born owing one hundred
and fifty thousand bad art pieces to the god of
bad art, and you can't make good art until you
pay off all your debt. So yeah, people who made
a lot of art as a kid are good at
it now they paid off their debt.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
I like that. That's pretty cool. I like that, Blake.
Where can people find you their workI media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Uh yeah, also go see t t live Tt is
one of my favorite people performers so go go see
those shows, and then I, for the love of fucking God,
follow me on social media if you don't and at
Black Westler on everything. And then also I did a
bike ride to raise money for autism research and awareness,

(01:02:36):
and a lot of zeit Gang donated, so I just
want to like, I saw all the donations and I
shout it out Zychang, So there are at least like
five or six seven people who from Zychang who donated,
so thank you. I saw that. I really appreciate it.
And then stand up. I'm doing stand up and on
August first, there's a Blake and Friends in Philly, so

(01:02:57):
my favorite local comics are going to be on that.
On August twenty second, I'm headlining the first ever comedy
festival in Philadelphia, so I'm doing one of those shows.
And then August twenty ninth to the thirtieth, I'll be
in Wilkes Barry, and then there'll be other non Pennsylvania
based shows at some fucking point. And also I have
a piece of media that I would like to read
where I guess like the Airbnb person wrote, tomorrow we're

(01:03:20):
unveiling Airbnb's next chapter. And then at Tanya Sabrina wrote
water BnB, Fire B and B and Earth the B
and B. So that's Tanya Sabrino, who's very funny comic.
Tanya Underscore s a b r I n Aaa.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
That's me there it is. I do wonder what they're
I mean, it's going to be incredibly disappointing, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Just a totally fucked company. Also the ways they fucked everybody, everyone, everyone,
their hosts, they're all right anyway, That's all I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Have a feeling. If I had to guess it involves AI.
Well yeah, then so the AI and air Airbnb is
going to be capitalized, the house AI. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Undersquirrel, Brian on Blue Sky
at Jack ob the number one work Amedia I've been
enjoying at Tim Ross Comedy tweeted Give a man a

(01:04:19):
fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man
to fish, buy the pond, tell him he can't have
the fish, but he can fish for you, and you
sell the fish and give him a very small cut,
and then he'll say stuff like I am hungry at
my teeth hurt. Nobody wants to fish these days. That's
great as the old thing goes. You can find us

(01:04:39):
on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're also on blue Sky
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You can go to the description of the episode wherever
you're listening to it, and you can find the footnotes,
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about in today's episode. We also link off
to a song that we think you might enjoy. Superducer

(01:05:00):
Justin Connor, is there a song that you think the
people might enjoy?

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Yeah, it's about to be the weekend, so I thought
i'd recommend a fun song. This one is called Coming
Through by S Fidelity. It's got a really interesting feel
to it. The best way I can describe it is
it sounds like g funk mixed with like a chip
tune style made by some guy in Berlin. So if
that sounds interesting to you, then you can check out

(01:05:26):
coming Through by s Fidelity in the footnotes.

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