Oops All Overrated / Underrated: Indigenous Peoples' Day 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this special episode of
elly Zygeist. This is going to be the OOPS All Overrated,
Underrated and Search History series, featuring some of our favorite
guests giving some of our favorite opinions from the past
few months. We'll be checking in with these sporadically. They're

(00:23):
just mostly silly episodes, full of the the treat part
of the of the episode, the not about the news
part of the episode, and yeah, we hope you enjoy them.
All filler, no killer, I guess you could say. And
if you have a favorite overrated underrated from the long
history of the show, My memory doesn't work that well.

(00:47):
But if you have one from a long time ago,
let us know in the discorder and the comments and
maybe we can do an all time OOPS All over
under Search history. Anyways, without first they're ad here they
are OOPS All Overrated, Underrated and Search History. Bye. We

(01:08):
ask our guests every day what they think is overrated underrated? Uh,
this is this is our chance to get some stuff
off our chest. You know what I'm saying. Let's start.
Should we start overrated? Get what's cheesing you off? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thing's overrated?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Who me fucking millionaires man just getting away with it
all the time, specifically this Steve Balmer, Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
They had this one.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's Pablo Tore every fucking week now is like truly
they're calling him the Boogeyman. It feels like the Kendrick
Drake like beef, but except it's just like upsetting legal
documents about how pretty allegedly but pretty clearly.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Feel like that. Like that way, I had that same
thought as he was dropping like his fifth episode where
he's like, and here's more documentation, because so he found
out that Steve Bamer like basically did this thing where
he funneled a huge investment into this company that was
ended up being a scam nobody allegedly knew was escape

(02:19):
at the time, and then that money was then paid
to Kawhi Leonard by that same company for doing nothing
in order to get around the salary cap because they
had signed Kawhi Leonard to a salary that was He's like,
Kawhi Leonard is one of the best players in the NBA,
but you have this salary cap that makes it so

(02:39):
no team can just come through like the Yankees and
just fucking everyone all all the money and so the
way he got around that was kind of this like
sloppy thing where I mean, I guess it's not sloppy
in the sense that we wouldn't have found out about
it if this company hadn't been.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
And everything becomes public.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, and then everything becomes public. But he's been going
through the documents and just finding incriminating piece of evidence
after incriminating piece of evidence. His fellow billionaire Mark Cuban
has been defending him, being like, no one would do this.
This is just he's you're wrong, he was scammed, he
didn't know, and then that way he just happened to

(03:21):
invest money in Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, it feels like Pablo Torre is actually in the
beef with Mark Cuban because Mark Cuban says a thing
and then Pablo Torre is like, I actually have documentation
that because Mark he was like, right, I don't know.
It's like if it happened, then he would have to
do it this way and maybe like he would probably
prop up the company, and Probabatory is like, oh, interesting, here's.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Just that she did exactly that.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
He knows the whole case, and that's why it's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
To him just to drip it out because it makes
everyone look more fucking bad. And also the people that
defend Steve Balmer look even worse because they're like, well,
it probably was done this, or maybe it wasn't. Evidence
out that refutes it, and it just again like sports
is used like the one thing that people kind of
feel is like free from like all the fucking chaos

(04:10):
of the world. But in the era of big money,
like that's completely gone. And you know, the insanely wealthy
owner trope has been around forever, but like salary caps
kept things somewhat under control, especially like in the NBA,
Like for us, we've been talking about it for the
last few years. The amount like the parody that exists
in the NBA is unlike anything I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
It's super fun. It makes yeah, it makes it crazy
that like the Oklahoma City Thunder, who were like a
joke team three years ago, just won the championship.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, right exactly. And then like when you have people
like Balmer just coming in and sloppily skirting the rules
like a common CEO, it just like it just it's
it's really fucking infuriating, and it has nothing to do
with like the team or whatever, Like I I my
fucking allegiance to the Lakers. Aside, Like just looking at this,
it's shows. I think that's what it is. I just

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hate the fact that that entire way of doing business,
it's like, well I'm a billionaire and I have my
own rules, is just done so blatantly in the in
people's faces. And now you have a league with the
NBA where Adam Silver is like not not being as
unequivocal as I'd like him to be. When he's talking
about like put like laying the hammer down on people
who circumvent the cap rules, It's like, are you really

(05:24):
going to do it? Because Pablo Torre is really making
it difficult now for the NBA to like not do
you know, come down seriously on the Clippers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, I mean it's cool because he's a you know,
he's a Politzer Prize winning journalist. He's a podcaster. His
podcast is you know, once he gets on his previous
thing that he got into is just the Bill Belichick
and his twenty two year old girlfriend thing. That was
a fun thread. And like when he gets on a
thread like this, it's definitely worth listening because like especially
with this one. It's a white collar malfeasance at a

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time when literally nobody else is paying attention to that.
You know, the authorities are asleep at the wheel, and
so he's able to like just go in and get
the low hanging fruit. But for people who don't know,
Steve Bomber is the richest owner in any sport. He's
one of the richest people in the world. He co
founded Microsoft with Bill Gates, and they had an episode

(06:18):
recently just about the parallels between what Microsoft got caught
doing and then in the nineties.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
This is a.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, and Steve Bomber was the head of the company
at the time that they were caught doing anti competitive
stuff blatantly by the US government and like forced to
you know, it's like the one anti monopoly thing that
has happened that like really the government pushed back on.
That's how blatant they were being. Best detail I learned

(06:50):
over the past week is because I think it's easy
to lose sight of like how much money was at
stake here, So Kiletter do not to do twenty million
dollars I think from this company to do nothing twenty
eight I think, yeah, okay, twenty Eighth, he's getting paid
more by this company to do nothing. Then he's getting

(07:11):
paid by New Balance for being their face. They're the
face of New Balance, Yeah, face of their basketball thing
like like, which was a huge Like the fact that
they New Balance got Kawhi Leonard was wilder that we
were like, whoa, Like, that's a huge get for them.
That's like an amazing amount of value. The idea that

(07:32):
this company would just pay him for doing nothing just yeah,
it seems very unrealistic anyways, It's it's just it's just.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
Wild to think.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's like he's the face of a brand for X
amount of money, but then he can get more money
to literally just do nothing. Because again it's it wasn't
it's it's not that he was ever doing anything with
this company.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
They were just funneling money to him. But yeah, this
is not abnormal for Steve Balmer, obviously as the head
of Microsoft who previously got caught doing anti competitive things,
but also just like billionaires, as we keep talking about
on this show, like it is what they do. They
rewrite the history. It's very important to America's ethos and
the American zeitgeist to believe that these are remarkable people

(08:17):
who are doing things with like creative normal brain power. Yeah,
they're amazing brain power. And then you know, so they
rewrite these biographies where they like started everything from a
garage and all this bullshit, and then you actually look
at the reporting and it's just they find loopholes and
exploit loopholes is what they do. And they are predatory

(08:39):
and will do whatever it takes to make a bunch
of money.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Leen or whatever whatever their fucking worldview is. But yeah,
it's just Pablo Tory, God bless Yeah, shout out to
fucking keep turning the heat up on the league because
that would be the next scandal, is if the NBA.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Just kind of THEBA just looks the other way.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, because again, like you said, Bombers so fucking wealthy.
It's like he could buy the league if he wanted to,
you know what I mean, Like it's just like he's
his that's just looming over everything.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Underrated? Deer crossing signs?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh yeah, the little sign with the little deer doing
like a little hot hop.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Yeah, my husband hit a deer on his from work
on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
What did deer say? To him, fuck you bitch.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Car?

Speaker 8 (09:29):
Yeah, oh okay, so, uh yeah, it was late at night,
no deer crossing signs, even though it definitely needs it
for the area we're in, but came out of nowhere?
Did damage left the deer's okay, we didn't find the body.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
We're not sure.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Exchange information and check in after.

Speaker 7 (09:52):
I'm pretty sure that deer didn't have insurance.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
And the way he fucking ran out of there, I
don't want to God.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I mean, I know this show, you know, trying to
be progressive, but that's I feel like all deers, no
deer has right every time.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Every time they don't.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I don't like to paint everyone with the same brush,
but they never have insurance.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Ever.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
Well, I have to register to kill a deer, so
why don't they have to register for exist?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
See?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
This is this is God. We need someone who takes
this shits here.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
Need a registry for all deers.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
How fucked up? Did the car get? Uh?

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Not great? We're having it towed either today or tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Oh shit, Like, couldn't you be driven any further?

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Yeah, but it was fortunate it was very close to
our house, so and my husband's fine. All that but
we don't know about the car just yet.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Damn, it was a long time to ask if your
husband's fine, the extent that we didn't even do it.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I made a joke about how I punched a deer.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I will say the deer crossing sign, like, if you're
going to have a sign representing deer, like they have
to be happy with that one. That is like the
Michael Jordan's silhouette, like the Jordan silhouette of like it
is so mysticletic and majestic. It's like springing forward in
a way that like I feel like they have to

(11:13):
be like, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
And I'm pretty sure like they're antler sized. They were
very gracious with antler sizes.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah they were.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
See this is why are they getting all the preferential
treatment in society. This is what I'm now I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Also, like if you look at the moose crossing like
I'm looking at a moose crossing one, it's all like
hunched over, it looks drunk, whereas like the deer is like.

Speaker 8 (11:39):
Like l elf one is pretty majestic looking and yeah
because elk towards here and oh.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah hel yo that ants.

Speaker 8 (11:52):
But I wouldn't want to be sucked up by an
elk that that would take most cars.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, my rankings, I still like deer than elk moose,
But a moose is like it looks.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like it definitely evokes moose. It's communicated. I guess it
just like tells us what we think of moose. Like
it looks like, yeah, I'm seeing some that are a
little bit better, but the one I'm first looking at
it just looks drunk like it just like watch this
asshole are pretty hammered. You can just assume.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
They're angry too. But I'd rather have like these instead
of like impressionist paintings of animals for crossing, because you
have no idea what you're going to get.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh yeah, for sure. Too much.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
There's there's too much that someone can interpret it differently.
It's like, I don't know, could be like a horse, yeah,
whimsical horse with some kind of hairdo.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Or a hunchback horse.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I feel like they should give like the when it's
like the walking cross sign, like you can you can
walk now. That'd be cool if like they may us
look athletic and cool as hell instead of just like
you know, like they would you want just the very
stiff We don't get the swag. I don't what do
you want to I'm not the artist here, I'm just
cruising the Pelican brief. Yeah he's no, he's not Pelican brief.

(13:19):
He's what's the one, yeah briefcase?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah exactly. Just now there goes a man.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
I want the woman like on the truck flaps like
the woman that sits like yeah, I want that.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, and but what's that communicating? Ladies? You can now
lay in the crosswalk?

Speaker 7 (13:41):
Do you want an insurance payment? Just lay here?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
But not near deer because they don't have insurance.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
No, no, they'll trample you.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Fuck Bambi and the child the slow children sign. That
child looks like he's up to something.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
He's like, there's a slow children thing that's not just
like a far side thing like children. Yeah, oh sorry,
I'm thinking of.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
The good yeah slow chill.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I do remember that was that was like slow children? Whoa,
that's so mean?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
What that means?

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Call in one area?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Slow children? But they're strong, Okay, they've got good they've
got good leaping ability.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Sorry, there's the one for like the girl coded figure
for a slow children play, but the head of like
the girl, it has like a ponytail, but it looks
like just one of those like Japanese kendama things like
right here. Oh yeah, anyway, George Washington ribbon.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
She's also like being dragged by the boy one yeah,
come on, come on, come on, we'll make it.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
We'll make it, make it.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I'm so sorry, kid.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Slippery ragging her into traffic.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
One less ky came out there, children at.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Play dragging each other into traffic. What is something you
think is underrated?

Speaker 9 (15:11):
Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb. But for years and
years and years I have been driving around without a
phone holder in my car. Uh huh, and I just
got I just got one. And we're not talking about
these things enough.

Speaker 10 (15:28):
It's amazes, Oh my god. Like literally, I want to say,
the last time I had one was probably six ish
more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more so.

Speaker 9 (15:45):
It really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow,
I I literally have the fuck that. The other day
driver is like, my phone's right, there's just right there it.
Oh my god. So anyway, I think those little piece
of plastic are pretty underrated.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Prior to that you were just driving around with it
in front of your face, with holding it up in
front of your face.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
An exact same spot where the holder would be.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
Yeah, and I had a couple of phones. I have
the Android item all I had like a real Goldberg machine,
et Pro dash cam, all of it. Yea, But now
I just have the one holder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, always a boxing glove and a that's connected to
a wheel somehow.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Like on a plunger.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, I'm sure that like skins for it and kicks something.

Speaker 9 (16:33):
Usually I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And is it a phone holder that connects into the
air conditioning vent.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
Yes, but it is also one that has enough space
so that it it's like I can still feel the
air from that vent.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, that's it. Sounds like you got a good one out.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, I got you search Reddit you search read it
to figure out what's one to get?

Speaker 9 (17:01):
No, that one, I just took that one. I just
took a stab in the dard because I think what
I think what I happened was the phone foul or something.
I was like, let me just get one of these
fucking things right now.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think you were doing the search on a broken phone.
From the Falling.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
Yeah exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, phone holder for a car, and then you just
hit the unfeeling lucky. But that's not even a thing anymore,
don't Yeah, do they even have nothing? Oh no, they do.
They do.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Here, I'm gonna do right now, still own holder for
car and guess what, assholes at Google. I'm feeling fucking lucky. Oh,
it just fucking feeling. It doesn't even give I didn't
realize what it does. It just sends you to what
sends you to the top results. Oh yeah, that sent
me straight to Amazon.

Speaker 9 (17:49):
Amazing, amazing.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
They should I feel like they should be like, I'm
feeling really lucky and like you hit that and you
just like get the thing whatever they want to send you.
They're just like, yeah, I bought that shit.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm gonna put Tame and Paula tickets refresh. I'm feeling lucky.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
There you go. Just send me straight to fucking Ticketmaster.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
There you go, are good friends at Ticketmaster. What is
something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 11 (18:18):
Well to keep talking about the Star Wars prequels because
I need to just plug this star as.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Much as possible.

Speaker 11 (18:26):
But I did search for this. And I'll tell you
why I searched for Palpatine's lightsaber color because I have
been brainstorming a list of possible like drinks beverages for
the venues that we're performing at to like kind of

(18:46):
create a special drinks menu for our show. And so
I was like, oh, a Palpatini and it should be
read because of Palpatine means lightsaber color being red. And
then here, let me just pull up the list of
other drinks I've crafted. Uh, you know, listeners and and

(19:09):
and Jack and Moore, you're welcome to to riff on
this as well. Let's see the qui gon gin and tonic.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean unbeataful. That's beautiful, A.

Speaker 11 (19:23):
Darth vodka and cranberry or any vodka.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Dark Father.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
So that actually worked, does it?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Really?

Speaker 11 (19:33):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's vader that that's a like apocryphal thing. People were like,
and actually everybody would have known that his name that
he was actually looks father if you knew the German
translated to dark Father, and then you actually look it
up and it like doesn't mean ship, it doesn't translate.

Speaker 11 (19:49):
Just like yeah, that just I think that's a joke
from like Pitch Perfect where Anna Kendrick is like Vader
means father in German, so obviously, but the important thing
here also so is that the vodka that should be
used should be Anakin sky Walker vodka.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Having some fun.

Speaker 11 (20:09):
Now we're having fun. And then of course there's also
and then this is where things get a little bad
obi one canoe beer.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And I'm sorry, did you say this is where things
get brilliant? Perfect?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Sorry?

Speaker 11 (20:23):
Sorry I misspoke? And then finally, mace wine do wine?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Do?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Sounds like it's I'm going to get some mountain dew
in there? Do I? Is it a mixture of wine
and mountain.

Speaker 11 (20:34):
Wine plus a Cabernet savignon plus mountain dew? Actually, that
sounds kind of good.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm in I have seventeen years sober.

Speaker 12 (20:43):
I will relapse on that if.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You make it.

Speaker 11 (20:47):
Yeah, sorry, but.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Is it relapsing if you just injected directly into my veins?
But it doesn't like I don't have to drink it.
It just goes right into my veins. That's probably fine, right? Yeah?
Yeahs is fun? Those are great? And are do you
do you think that you're gonna get cooperation from the venues?

Speaker 11 (21:08):
I hope so, I emailed all of them and said like,
here's my brilliant menu. Do with it what you will,
and if they don't do it, that's their loss. They're
they're they're losing out on millions of dollars that they
would have generated at our show.

Speaker 12 (21:24):
Yeah, I'm told millions part of my ignorance. But I
did have to look up Palpatine. I can't believe his
name's not.

Speaker 11 (21:31):
Jiz He he looks Yeah, all right, he's not doing
he's not doing great now.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
He seems bad. All the people, all the forced people
seem bad, like you would think that all the power.
They're like, this is the best feeling. It feels so good,
and they're just like dying like the whole time. They
just look like absolute shit, which does seem to also
be what happens to people who just embrace concern a

(22:00):
bit of politics. They look like ship, but they also
live forever. They also have force lightning powers. They have
fingers lightning that comes out of their fingers.

Speaker 12 (22:12):
Yeah, they should call they should call whatever disease bandon.
Steve Bannon has the Palpatine.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah he's got some. He's Palpatine in big time.

Speaker 12 (22:20):
Yeah, well, your skin melts and you never die.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Mm hmm. Guy's been drinking a couple of Palpatini's about
to look at his nose. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (22:27):
Yeah, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
What is something you think is overrated? Kyle?

Speaker 13 (22:32):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Those I can cuss? Right?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh? Hell yes, those fucking believe ds not that one.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
I hate you believe videos so much. I hate them.
I hate them. I can't tell when they're satire or not.
I don't think they're helpful. Maybe I'm wrong and too
closed off and too like, uh pessimistic about it, but
ultimately I'm just like, who's the who's It's just to me,
it's it's like, uh, musical chairs for a bigot. Who's

(22:59):
the fastest bigot? Not even fastest quickest? And then they
come in and there every one of them is like, hey,
will you ever change your mind? And that person goes no,
and then they're like, all right, we should talk over
each other for a minute, right, which is pretty fun.

Speaker 14 (23:12):
Have you seen Yaser Lester's thing that he photoshopped him
in the surrounded background and he was like one light
skinned n word versus a bunch of white conservatives.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
But they don't know I got a gun on me.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
See, I would.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Watch that, so I really and it's something that I'm
not happy to admit I find unhelpful because maybe it
is just me closing myself off and it feels like
a very sort of like, I don't know, I feel
very pessimistic to be like, I find these wildly unhelpful,
and I'm sure I'm very open to being incorrect about it,
but god, I have never seen a clip of them

(23:47):
and thought this helped anyone at all, except everyone could
sit at home and be like, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah he told him. Both sides are getting like are
being like yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Another launch where everyone feels right.

Speaker 14 (24:00):
I think like I watched a lot of the like
political commentators online, and I think they helped me with
talking points. So in terms of like understanding talking points
or history, then I'm like, okay, like I didn't know
about that or like this other argument or whatever. But
I also think that the people involved are like very
happy to debate, and I'm like unhappy to debate in that.

(24:23):
I think in that I think we shouldn't have to
fucking debate human rights, you know what I mean. So
I think that that's the part where I'm like, Okay,
this is a bit self indulgent in that, yeah, like
maybe it'll help more people like understand like the history
of the talking points, like the politics of it all,
but also like we're not super changing any minds on there,

(24:44):
and it does give these fascists a platform, Like now
I know some of the faces of these fascists, and
but people are.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Just submitting to being fascist. And I find it to
be like you were saying, the what we have normalized.
I hate saying stuff like normalized. I hate you know
what I mean, you feel crazy using what we have
allowed to be the normal debate is so far outside
of what is like reasonable or or.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Or anything like Hitler debates.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Right, We're not debating like an allocation of taxes in
a community versus near a city or something where you're like,
I could you know, we're we're allowing equal footing to
such there is an objectively correct and incorrect answer that
we're allowing people to talk about like there isn't and
it involves people being alive, and then someone's monetizing it,
of course, But it's just I am maybe I just

(25:35):
want to get booked on one I don't know. I'm tired.
What's overrated? This YouTube show that won't book me.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
On the clip of this, and Kyle has been we
had to restraint get a restraining order against.

Speaker 14 (25:52):
As We're like, wow, we were really unsure of which
side Kyle it was on this whole time.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Kyle said, please let me.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I don't do the work. It's one of the It
was one of the things I felt a little bit
guilty about feeling is overrated, if that makes sense. But
I'm just sort of like it makes me I don't
think we are. It doesn't feel healthy. It doesn't feel healthy,
and it feels like you you make you think something
is equal if you are giving it a platform like that.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, Like it's it feels like it comes from the
same place as people being like, what, we don't need
moderators on Reddit because like this is free speech and
then you just like get shouted down by like thirty
fascists and it's it does. I think it helps my
visual imagination for like what fascists can look like.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
Yeah, I was gonna say, now, okay.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
They do have glasses like that.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
I'm like, it's your local NB barista.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yes, it certainly is.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
That has been a jarring discovery is a mute not
knowing who believe what has been a tough thing to
come to right where it used to be, you know,
on mute, I know who's got a tiki torch?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Right exactly? They all kind of all those tiki torch
guys looked like I would expect people caring tiki torches
to look like, and now they look like Hawaian. Yeah exactly.
They wouldn't appropriate, right, they look they look like the
stars of sitcoms that had like special we go to
Hawaii episodes from like the nineteenth fifty, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Wanted to go on vacation. They're like, we're actually having
a nice story arc here.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
But yeah, they hipsters can be fascist too frequently they are,
according to Jubilee videos. That's that's what I've learned.

Speaker 14 (27:43):
I also I also can't tell like I understand what
you mean by like not normalizing it or like wanting
people to have shame. But also like as a brown person,
like I would rather know what people actually believe in
their hearts. And I've had interpersonal experiences where I where
somebody's fully switched up on me and I'm like, okay,

(28:04):
so that's in my neighborhood. That's good. Like I would
rather fucking know you know, yeah, sure do you like
hate watch them?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
I have really really tried to cut out of my
life doing that with things. But it's sometimes they really
you know, a certain back and like the one that
was just the guy going yeah, I'm a fascist, Yeah
I'm aist. You can't avoid that. And so I saw, Yes,
I saw a lot of clip from his clips from
his of the various people, but especially.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Telling him to go leave, like yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Just sort of like, I don't know, maybe I just
but I mean.

Speaker 14 (28:37):
He kind of has a similar view because he was
saying like when one of them was like, yeah, I'm
a fascist, he's like stopped.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
K He's like, I don't have conversations with fascist. He
just like.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Appreciated that I have. So I commend the people who
can sit there and do that. And I just I
think rationing, Oh, ultimately, I feel guilt about the amount
of concern you do and what you cut out and
what you're aware of and things like that all the time.
And then I'm also trying to like take care of
myself in a physical and manner and you're just like

(29:09):
it's crazy to small picture and big picture yourself through
all of this. It's very difficult thing to balance.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, I did like and this is probably a bad
thing that this is what gave me like hope was
that the guy who he was like, oh, I don't
debate with fascist fascists? Are you a fascist? And he
was like, yeah, a fascist and like started like ugly
laughing they are. Yeah. He got fired from his job
and like I was like, oh, so there's like still

(29:36):
some institutions.

Speaker 14 (29:38):
Then he started to go fund me where he raised
like a fuck ton of money for.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Being a fascist that's true, which is.

Speaker 14 (29:44):
Like that isn't That's the thing where I'm like, this
is encouraging people to like try to become like influencers
and like make politics content. And that's that's the part
that I'm like, if you don't fucking know or you're
a bad person, just stay out.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Like there is something it seems like that is a
new It's like a quick quicker than going on a
dating reality show or The Bachelor or something is to
go and go viral in a jubilee moment and launch
yourself into something that's right.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I do want to like see what the process is
for like putting those rooms together. Like where are they going?
Like is it what pool are they fishing from?

Speaker 4 (30:19):
You know, they're going to these They're going to these
cities that uh, fascists and Republicans love to live in
that they say they hate, right, they like.

Speaker 14 (30:28):
They're also influencers before, Like a lot of them are,
like to the other people who said, yeah, a lot
of them have either been like worked for Jubilee. Like
some of the people are like picked by Jubilee multiple times.
Some of them are like podcast hosts or something like
some of them are already like they'll take Dane Kyle.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
There might be a chance.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yeah, one guy keeps trying to do movie puns. He
keeps saying the wolf of Wally Street in the Jubilee
video about order control. I do appreciate all it is
just it's such an odd feeling for me, and I

(31:11):
don't know what it is about them that feels bad
and weird and it feels terrible. Yeah, you do, but
there is something to like it's just like jarring. You
just never thought you would see people be like, yeah, dude,
I'm a fascist. You never think you'd see someone say that.
But then it's like it's so normal now. I guess
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (31:29):
Yeah, I'm like, honestly, I think the moment of political
shock I had was the twenty sixteen election, and like
I had an experience just like that SNL moment where
like Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle were like, yeah, this
is what America is, and all the white people were
like what because I was with like my white friends
and we were all freaked out. And then I like
later in the night, I was like out of mic
where it was like a lot of black people and
they were like laughing and they were like, yeah, this

(31:50):
is just normal for America.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
So since then, I haven't been shocked. Yeah. I haven't
been shocked at anything honestly since then.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, shock is hard to have. Yeah, you just it's
weird that I let myself continually have disappointment.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, I think that's beautiful though, let's get disappointed. Yeah,
it proves that there's like some hope inside. Yeah, what
is something from your search history that's revealing better who
you are?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
All right?

Speaker 15 (32:23):
This is this is revealing about who I am in
multiple ways, which is that I remembered I had a
memory of tweeting something about how the xenomorpho is really
just a huge wasp that can't stop drooling.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
But then yeah, like it drools a lot, Like it's
okay in a way that like any other thing that
drools that much, you'd be like, that thing is.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Stupid, it's sick, all right.

Speaker 15 (32:48):
So here here's the train of thought that I think
actually tells everyone literally everything you might conceivably want to
know about me, which is I have a memory of
this because I I basically was like someone else made
a sort of similar joke on some social media and
I was like, I already did that, and then I
looked for it and I couldn't find it. So that

(33:08):
was my search history as Andrew t Zeno morphlass, and.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I couldn't find it. Did I.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Did?

Speaker 15 (33:18):
I just think this? And so I don't know. I
genuinely don't know. It seems like it's not there. But
I also deleted most of my tweets at some point.
Maybe it was in the deleted batch of tweets.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm gonna say, go get me in trouble.

Speaker 14 (33:32):
With.

Speaker 15 (33:34):
All of those movies have some very serious characters saying
a nearly completely perfect organism.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I have to tell you it's only an okay organist.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, you can get you can get rid of that
second mouth, yeah, second mouth, theol Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 (33:55):
It's fucking It can't reproduce unless a fucking like a
certain number of humanoids look at its eggs.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, like stare at its eggs with their mouth open.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Plan? Is that for propagating your sleep?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
It doesn't if it wanted to bring people in, if
that was its strategy, right, Like, think about like a
flower that wants to reproduce, so it's brightly colored, it's
like it looks fucking so hot to bumblebees. Like bumble
bees are like, oh yeah, I want to fuck that thing,
or like you know, they or it looks delicious to

(34:33):
other things. Well there is one that looks like something
that I forget which insect it is, but then to
fuck it.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah all right, well that's fine.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
But anyways, like this one is on a scary ass
planet that you know, like just not does not It's.

Speaker 15 (34:53):
Created mist and eerie blue lights, and it looks like
a fucking like demon.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah you see that, You're like hell no, yeah, why
would you look at that?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, Like they really need some they need to up
their game. In terms of even if.

Speaker 15 (35:09):
Yeah, it's just that so many things have to go
perfectly for one baby to be born, and that I
think is not such.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
A good plan perfect evolutionarily speaking.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
And also when it runs, it's like not that yeah,
like when it so when it pops out of that
motherfucker's stomach spoiler alert for people managed to miss that whole.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I saw Senator Cassidy's testimony.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And it runs out. It doesn't run that like, it's
like just like it's just like kind of scampers out
like in a way that's you know, kind of well.
Some of these are answered in.

Speaker 15 (35:43):
Alien Earth Jack. Then they hit series on FX it uh,
they show more of the zoomorph in between, which is
why this came up for me.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Someone was talking about Alien Earth and I was like.

Speaker 15 (35:55):
Hold up, I already made this sick ass joke, and
I just think I'm suing.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I didn't make this. The sick ass joke is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's any perfect, perfectly scary thing. Unfortunately that doesn't make
it perfect for reproduction and survivor.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Nature's the pinnacle of nature's achievement.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's like, what the fuck are you.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Talking about, Yeah, because there is also like the conceit
is that everybody wants to use it as a weapon,
Like it's just yeah, it would be the worst weapon
to turn on you so fast. You heard of just
a better gun if you really want.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
To pretty spooky guns in here, man, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's not even the best gun in the like spaceship area.
What did it even look like? Would it be like
the car you know in Gouni's data has the vest
where like a punching like a thought single pops out
of would that be like just have a xenomorph that
like pops out of a container, Like how are you

(37:07):
going to weaponize that? You open your vest and then
as xenomorp pops out of your chest and.

Speaker 15 (37:12):
Like yeah, every every time they've tried to depict that
on screen as the xenomorph being a quote unquote perfect weapon,
all it does is kill some quite a lot of
the people in the area.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It doesn't do anything that.

Speaker 15 (37:27):
A fucking like cruise missile couldn't do a billion times more.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
If you have the technology for interplanetary travel, I'd imagine
your weapons might be better than just unleashing it.

Speaker 15 (37:38):
Truly, monster, But I'm so sorry, but like, yeah, I'm
just like putting a big bug in the in the
house cannot be the best way to do this.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
It's like the equivalent of like putting some bees under
some door and then like walking away giggling yourself.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
And then they're like I was on vacation, I came home.
There's like three dead bees, and.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
The bees killed a bunch of stuff. Right, Why would
you do that? Man?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's such an insane way to kill people.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
If everybody stays inside this house, who we want to
stay inside this house? We're in business. There's just too.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Many variables, too many variables. I don't like it. You
don't want to go back.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
And on the house, Yeah, bad idea.

Speaker 15 (38:22):
Do you ever want to use that spaceship for your
own No? You just want to kill some of the
people in it? Real scarily okay, like still.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
At the ancient like using an ASP as a weapon? Yeah,
version of weapons. Unleash the ASP on Cleopatra.

Speaker 15 (38:41):
Oh your city with scorpions?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Like what do you?

Speaker 15 (38:46):
I just I listen. I get that it's a monster.
I just think the underlying research imperative seems shaky at best.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, monster can't even close its fucking mouth. Yeah, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Wow, that's so kind of you to ask, Jack.

Speaker 16 (39:08):
Funny that you bring that up, because my actual last
Google search was what is the newest research about octopuses
being sentient? And so then I got on a a
deep dive on that and I will be publishing a
substack later today with your findings some of it.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, yeah, do you like eating octopus?

Speaker 16 (39:30):
And well I was raised on it, my whole life.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Housing octopus right now, everybody.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
All over her face.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Still something I've come to.

Speaker 16 (39:42):
That's all very sad, confusing sort of reckoning that I
have to be honest with myself about because I come
from a diving family, so I've eaten it my whole
life quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
And diving not like competitive pool diving, but.

Speaker 16 (39:56):
Diving in the ocean, and like catching their diving.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Yeah all that.

Speaker 16 (40:02):
No, Actually, Jack, I'm very sorry to correct you, but
the correct nomenclature at this time has been changed back
to octopuses, not like OCTOPI like when we were taught
when we were young.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, just correct, both of you. I said catching octopus
like catching fish instead of fishes. So you're both wrong,
and yeah, I.

Speaker 16 (40:24):
Can see where you were going with that.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
One fish is a word, No, I mean fishes in
terms of the present. Yeah, I got a lot of
table it's nine eleven, all right, it's yeah, you're you
gotta give me a break.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
But you can't blame it all nine eleven.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I can't blame it all on nine eleven. But it
certainly didn't help Miles.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Wait, so then are you so now you're a little
bit because I feel the same way because everything every
time you see a documentary or something about an octopus, like,
oh my god, they're fucking there.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
They know, they know.

Speaker 16 (40:59):
Apparently they're sentient, and they can recognize faces. They're extremely intelligent.
They can edit their own social which is the pea
cursor to editing their own DNA, and so like, you know,
there's all this new research coming out about it, and
it's basically to me, I'm like, oh my god, it's
like eating a dog, and I just don't feel like
it's ethical, even though you know, I eat cows, which

(41:20):
I do feel guilty about every day as well, even
though I don't foresee stopping.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
But you're an athletic specimen. You gotta keep you got
to pack in the protest.

Speaker 16 (41:29):
I am a carnivore, but I'm deciding I'm making an
executive decision. I think to stop eating octopus going forward.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, octopus is so such is so prevalent in like
Japanese food too, that like I was raised eating like takoyaki,
which is like first ball thing, or like taco wassa,
which is like what like wassa be root with like
raw octopus. It's like a really good little side thing.
And yeah, every time I like see that, it is
just sort of like co fuck.

Speaker 16 (41:58):
But I've noticed I'm varying of guilt inside me like
the last year or so. And you know, I am
very very addicted to TikTok, so I'm really in taking
a lot of info at all time. Good good, So
I just had to make the decision.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean they sound more advanced than
like the DNA RNA. Yeah, like that sounds I don't
like I've tried that before. It hasn't totally worked out
the ability to edit my own DNA and RNA just
with sheer tyranny of will. So that's pretty pretty impressive.
They don't they don't live long lives. I've long had

(42:36):
this theory that octopus, octopi, octopuses, octopuces, octopises would be
way more advanced if like they they they would run
the globe and be like waging wars and or not,
you know, just being cool. But like they, we would
work for octopuses if they just had longer lifespans.

Speaker 16 (42:59):
Well, well, there also have been discovering new species and
are saying that there are many other octopus species that
we haven't even discovered yet, and that they are possibly
linked to our own evolutionary us. Maybe I don't know,

(43:19):
or extraterrestrial we'll see. At the risk of the listeners
thinking I'm a.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Total quack, yeah, they would never, they would never. No, No,
you're goaded, You're gods with the sauce, Like.

Speaker 16 (43:34):
Yeah, I'm some odd special. I only found out I'm
autistic six months ago. But it explains a lot, Like
I mean, I like, my whole life really makes sense now,
Like I mean, I'm like, I complain now, I have
so much stuff to do, and then I spent like
all morning like just researching about octopus.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Why I don't know. No, that's the info you needed
what I needed, I guess what is something you think
is over efficiency.

Speaker 17 (44:02):
I think I spent a time, a lot of time
studying algorithms, studying how people optimize for things, and I
don't think that's where we find meaning. And things like
uber eats, like delivering something straight to your doorstep. You
don't experience the friction that makes life feel worth living.
You don't bump into your friend in the street, you
don't interact with your local community. The efficiency of algorithms
and how everything is streamlined in society is kind of

(44:23):
boring to me.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless you're yeah, unless you hate running
into people you went to high school with in public
when you're high and you just want to get taco
bell just just quietly, there's.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
A time employece Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I always found people to be an impediment to the
efficiency of commerce, and so yeah, that's why I'm really
excited about this new direction that our society has taken.
This This actually gets to kind of my first question
for you is just you know, the difference between I
feel like you did a post on like quant speak

(44:59):
and like how the language of efficiency is sort of
bleeding in. Like I one example that I've noticed I
don't know if this would be categorized the same in yearbook,
but like the phrase replacement level is a thing that
I've like from the world of sports analytics, which is
just like, yeah, they're like an average player, but it

(45:20):
like adds this sort of dark fascist like Thomas the
tank engine thing, where like everybody is just replaceable in CHANGEABI. Yeah, yeah,
people as commodities. Like so I do I notice that
as a as a newish trend sort of vying with
the more broad trends of like language. It seems too

(45:43):
historically and even modern like today feel it's like a
democratic phenomenon. It's like not top down and it's you know,
it comes from like teenagers or like frequently persecuted minority groups,
and like it's a way for people without officially sanctioned

(46:03):
power to like weird wield their creativity and like power,
which is I think beautiful. And that's what you see
with a lot of these linguistic trends that scare people online.
But then yeah, I do see also, you know, whether
it be the world of like you know, like analytics
people are stat people, or just like the corporate world,

(46:26):
you know, creating these new phrases I feel like that's
sort of an interesting like dark and light side battle
that we see in linguistics happening all the time. Do
you think about it that way at all?

Speaker 6 (46:38):
That's so interesting?

Speaker 4 (46:39):
No.

Speaker 17 (46:39):
I think there's each community always finds the best way
to speak for that community, and it changes as the
vibe changes.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Again, I think the vibe is important here.

Speaker 17 (46:47):
It's very probably true that since the moneyball era started,
the sports language has gotten more about like quantifying things,
and you're talking more about things like RBIs than you
used to. Probably people care about stats a lot more.
I think as communities have shared values, language emerges to
reflect those values. So the video you were referencing was
about how math nerds and cs people kind of find

(47:08):
streamline optimized ways of communicating. I think that's definitely true,
because their goal is to find efficient ways, maybe mathematically,
to express things. Same things happening with middle schoolers right.
Middle schoolers are just vibing in that they are using
language to connect with other middle schoolers, to differentiate their
identity from adults. And that distinction between top down and

(47:29):
bottom up is kind of constant that we always impose
like a layer, like through dictionaries or through formal rules
of what language is supposed to be, but then in
reality that doesn't fit onto everybody, and then different communities
find their own ways of expressing themselves.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Right, Yeah, I feel like, I mean it's a fit.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
They're trying to find the most efficient way to communicate,
but they're also trying to make each other laugh and
trying to impress people, you know. And like there's this
book about the evolution of birds and the role of
beauty and like how birds evolved, and so like, you know,
we tend to think of, you know, the way evolution

(48:08):
works and as like the survival of the fittest being,
like you know, it's just everything is a something that
was evolved to like feed or like defeat or dominate
the other side. And it's like, you know, a lot
of the stuff that birds have evolved to do is
just to be like beautiful in a way that is
like attract some other mate, you know. And so I

(48:29):
feel like, similarly, in language, you have how to most
efficiently communicate your meaning, but also how to do so
in a way that is just like fun, you know,
and like makes people laugh and makes people impressed by
your creativity a little bit.

Speaker 17 (48:44):
Yeah, I don't think everything is about efficiency, right. I
think it can also be you're joking, you're kind of
trying to communicate that your chill or laid back those
things aren't efficient. If you're being efficient, that it isn't
chill or laid back. And I don't know, like surper communities,
like we'll talk differently than the quants, you know, because
they have a different goal in mind, they have a
different vibe of how they're approaching language.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, it does feel like teenagers, Like how we experience
language being spoken by teenagers today and then how we
actually use language tho was spoken by teenagers in years
past is like kind of you know, people don't realize
how much of our modern dialect is just created by

(49:25):
sort of younger people. Or you know, I've heard people
talk about upspeak being a thing that was started by
teen girls and criticized and criticized and criticized, and until
the people criticizing it, we're also doing it with upspeak.
You know, how do you like it is that sort
of a constant in your study of like how language evolves,

(49:47):
or also like persecuted minority groups like and you.

Speaker 17 (49:50):
See you seem to really know what's happening that it
often does come out of these minority groups because they
have the biggest reason to defy the hierarchical imposition of language,
because that's not their version of language. The language that's
being imposed is like the super straight, white old man
version of language. So minority groups women, they're going to
want to eventually talk different than than they do, and

(50:10):
then they're kind of scrutinized by these other people. Except
these young people and the marginalized communities are the ones
that are actually generating the new language. And sometimes that
leaks into the mainstream, and then it gets adopted, and
then it gets institutionalized, and then we once again forget
like that it came from that group. This is a
time honored process that we see over and over again.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
But yeah, you seem to really have a good graph
of that.

Speaker 17 (50:31):
I think we have a tendency to call things brain
rot right, and the idea that words are bad for
your brain, it's kind of funny. I think brain rod
is also a meme aesthetic, and to be fair, the
words that are spreading right now fit into that meme
aesthetic really well. And the aesthetic is like pointing back
to the algorithm and how the algorithm is bad for
our brains. And these words are coming from the algorithm.

(50:51):
Riskyvide ohio do bai, chocolate, labubu macha. You know, all
of those are memes brought to us by the algorithm.
And the words are funny because they're like algorithmic words.
But I don't think the words themselves are bad. But
you know, we do have this tendency to call language bad,
and we've been doing it time and time again. And
you go back to the nineteen hundreds and there are
articles about people like being upset at words that we

(51:12):
now find normal.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Right right, I wonder too, like if it's kind of
you know, we we sort of speak the same way,
especially as kids, because you're referencing something in pop culture
or like sort of in group as like young people,
this is like.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
A shared experience or value.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
And I wonder too, because, like I was trying to think, like,
what the fuck was I saying? That would have even
been perceived as brain rot quote unquote, like because again
this is all generationally cyclical, where the like they go.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
What are the kids talking about these days?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
And I'm like, I wonder too, because like in the
eighties and nineties, there was really a very limited amount
of content movies, TV that sort of a lot of
people were experiencing at the same time. But with the
Internet it becomes so much more specific that suddenly like
everyone knows Ace Ventura or everyone knows the budwe or frogs.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
So being like.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Or saying like still do that to this day, yeah, same.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Or alrighty, then is again the same way we were
just saying some dumb shit because it's from this thing
you like, not because you're like that's the way I talk.
You're like, we're saying the thing from the thing we
like that Now because there's so many different like sort
of inputs for like what that what can affect someone's
language or the kind of content that they have an

(52:26):
affinity for, that's that Now it's like people are like, well,
I don't know fucking skimmity of toilet, So what the
fuck is skimmity toilet?

Speaker 15 (52:33):
You?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
No?

Speaker 17 (52:33):
Literally, I think you is a really a good point
about like media and the role that media plays and
our adoption of slang, and it's always been based on
what we're consuming. So when hip hop in the nineties
was influencing language, people would say things like fo shizzle
and then to when you know movies were influencing culture people,
it's you know, was up you know the millennials lange

(52:53):
that doesn't really stick around. Some of it does stick around,
you know, words like cool emerge from minority communities and
now just like a part of wuage, but vine. I
think in twenty fourteen people were saying things like bay
fam on fleek way more. Sometimes those are still around,
but I think largely they were a fad in the
general population. And uh, same thing is happening now with TikTok.

(53:14):
Some of the words are going to stick around.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Some of them aren't.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, I also wonder if they're having to like if
we're seeing this moment of exploding you know, slang that
is like kind of extra inscrutable because everybody, like the
as Miles as you were talking about, like what were
the words that we said to like define ourselves away
from like previous generations. It was a lot of like swearing, right,

(53:39):
like yeah, you know just this day, yeah, terrible, terrible, No.
But now the fucking president like swears and like the
vice pread you know, they're constantly swearing. So like I
feel like you need new tools that aren't just the
standard old tools of like saying bad words, but like
you have to like create your own sort of aggressive
words that like won't be used by the president, you

(54:03):
know what I mean. Yeah, I wonder if that that
is pushing the young people to like have to get
extra creative and like create new ways of speaking because
literally everybody.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Says everything's on the table.

Speaker 17 (54:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're kind of right that like absurdism
is the only option here, and the importance of identity
formation because young people are always trying to build a
shared identity for themselves that's different from the identity of adults,
because they're trying to figure out who they are in
the world.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
That's normal.

Speaker 17 (54:32):
That's why young people are always the ones that are
coming up with slang, whereas old people have a crystallized
idea of who they are and what language is. But
in a world where I think things are overly structured,
like through algorithms which force feed us like the content
that makes them money, and through like I think society
is structuring things a lot more. But at the same time,
we have this uncertainty about what's going on, and then

(54:53):
we turn to absurdism in the same way. I think
you're right to point out da daism in like the
nineteen tens. I think that's a really good analogy. There
was a kind of that period of uncertainty going on
as well.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, what is something from your search history that's revealing
about who you are?

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I just so this is always kind of a mirror
that you hold up to yourself when you do this segment.
But the last thing I had searched was are there
any laws about headlights? Reddit? So I just simply don't
know if there's any laws about how bright headlights are
allowed to be, is anyone allowed to do anything? Some
of them are so upsettingly bright. And I was just

(55:36):
in North Carolina, which is what made me search this,
because all the headlights there are at all the truck
it's all trucks there, and it seems like people lift
their truck to what I like to call toddler blind
spot inches high, and so every single truck is like
they're like, I just see my truck. It's just high
enough to where I could clip the top of a
skull if it was learning to walk.

Speaker 7 (55:58):
Predator.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Yeah, dodge ram is actually the two verbs kids need
around and so I'm like, I'm in a regular human
rental car being followed by a truck and I cannot
see and I can't and so I didn't search it
while driving, but I do think it's it's actually illegal
there to not be on your phone. Water are we

(56:22):
are there any laws for headlights? And did you find out?

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Like? Are there? Because I really had the thought just
search this, started searching it clipped A toddler had to
stop and pretend throw my phone out the window so
that nobody toddler.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Sounds like those parents exploiting their.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Kids a toddler.

Speaker 14 (56:43):
I thought that the rule about tail lights was you
aren't allowed to have them or not have them if
you're black, Like I thought that.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Was the thing, right, that's right tail lights.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Yes, yeah, well that part of the internet's banned in
North Carolina. The answers to that, you're actually not allowed
to access black part of the internet, the part that
could help a minority.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
It's like square in China.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It was no definitive answer
and honestly hard to read because I was in a
hotel and yet again, headlights outside were so bright.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I can't deal with it, And what are we doing
National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
When you first started this, I was like, oh god,
we are old.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Like, yeah, oh, what's the oldest I've ever felt?

Speaker 14 (57:25):
Yeah, but it makes sense. I get really upset when
restaurants are too dim.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Now.

Speaker 14 (57:29):
I'm like, these fucking guys. They think that we can't
read the menu in here.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Oh I just ate at a restaurant down street from me.
I say, just it was it was a long time ago,
a month ago, but the guy pulled it. It was
so dim. The guy pulled his phone out to read
the menu and then just never turned the flashlight off
the rest of his time in the restaurant.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
He was trying to help the rest of the restaurant.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
It was like he had a little disco ball on
his table at any given moment that might blind you
or might help you.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Oh, you had dinner with my father. That's it's been nice,
I said.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
But I have no idea about headlights. I still don't
know the answer.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I don't know. Can we leave that up to the States?
I wish we wouldn't, because I feel like something bad
is going to happen. I know.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
I don't like telling people. I'm either pro light or
pro choice, But.

Speaker 14 (58:16):
Yeah, headlights are gonna only can only be dimmed by
the corpse of a child.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
You know, you could put a windshield wiper on there
to get thin hair off of it after you run
a kid over it. Big wheel out of a truck.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
I forgot how dark. I forgot how dark your company is?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Like why I forgot?

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Every time I see one of these trucks, I'm like,
they're going to run over the kid from the Incredibles
that was in his driveway. That's what this looks like
to me.

Speaker 14 (58:44):
I just realized, I know why there aren't like creepy
kids on bikes anymore, and they all are like throwbacks
to the eighties.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
They've all been wiped out.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
So why it takes so long for them to make
a new season a stranger thing? They let the kids
grow out of the blind spot, I know that.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Like people always talk about how yeah, but if it's
like super bright, it's kind of like this arms race
that's happening with the size of cars, and this is
like also a part of that where like the size
of cars, the people inside the car are safer, is
everyone outside the car that's like less safe because.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Once again we're talking about and square. They were very
safe in the tank. Inside the tank, yeah, but historically
out of it. I was always worried about the people
inside the tank when I saw that bit, but apparently
they were fine. It was that guy holding his groceries
that but yeah, and then like super bright lights, it's like, well,
nobody's gonna run into you, and it's like, well they

(59:40):
can't see, so they might run into other things. And
it's like not you though, you know what I mean,
Like it just has this like weird prisoner's dilemma, like
zero something that's happening.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
It's a trolley problem where you invented the track, right.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Yeah, talk problem, except they're like, is there a way
I can run over some them, back up, change direction
than run over the one guy? All so I could
try and save a little bit on taxes in my mind, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Yeah, trying to research this, like headlights are too bright,
but US experts say they're not bright enough on Reddit
the first one, brightness isn't the issue. I'm like, all right,
well I've checked out. It's it's actually the direction that
you and my brain shuts down, like I can't I
don't want to hear that I was not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
And I just got a little, great, little more angry
about the Internet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yes, that's right, my underrated uh Mad's Michelson's desire to
be like held down slash tied up just any any So,
as you I've talked about before, my uh probably my
favorite thing I wrote back in the Cracked days was
this article about actors who kind of like to do

(01:00:49):
the same thing in every movie. Tom Cruise likes to run,
Brad Pitt likes to eat, John Cusack likes to get
stuck in the rain, and the the ultimate. Tom Hanks
love to pee and he loves in a movie. And
I'm just obsessed with the idea of like how that happened.

(01:01:12):
I'm just obsessed with the idea of watching people pee.
And the Internet's amazing because you can find so many
videos of it, just like how that happens? Is it
a note from the actor? But anyways, somebody on Twitter
who goes by v i z l a g F

(01:01:33):
on Twitter posted a super cut of Mad's Michelson like
being tied up or tied down, or like held down
or tying somebody else down, And it's just there's a
lot to go off of.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
It's why does he have a boner in all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
These shots too? So the projects are polar The Starvation
Hannibal Bitch Better Have My Money music video he's in
there being tied up exit Casino Royale, Unit one valhallarizing

(01:02:11):
Doctor Strange, and then something called The Call, which is
a furniture ad in which he gets So it's interesting
that these are like, there are some weird projects on there. Like,
on the one hand, you could be like, man, they're
really scraping to find examples of this. On the other
you can read it as like he will take a
job that doesn't make any sense for him, like a

(01:02:34):
Rihanna video or a furniture ad if they're just like yeah,
but we'll hold your arms down in like kind of
a sexual context.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
His agent's like, Mad's, I got this news script for you.
He's like, you you already know what I'm going to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
You know what I'm gonna ask? Why are you even
why are we even talking about it right now? But
Mad's this could be just say it. What am I
going to ask?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Are fine?

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Is it bondage? Is it hold me down? Is it bondage? Okay?
Then yes, But they don't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
The work too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I don't know if this is more this one feels
more in line with like Tom Hanks, because like the
Brad pitt One, the John Cusack, it's just like Tom
Cruise are like this is the thing I look cool
doing Tom Hanks and like this one, I can't imagine
they think it looks cool. It feels like it's coming

(01:03:30):
from in like a deep like psycho sexual urge that
they is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Probably why Tom Hanks isn't canceled is because he's found
a way to route any kind of weird sexual desire
into like somewhat a creative Outlet's like, look, as long
as I'm pissing in a film, like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I can keep my shit together. Watch it. All those
people I walk around this country, I make eye contact
with people and I know and that's where my comments
comes from. They've watched me piss, Like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Oh my god, we literally finish each other sandwhich is
did you see that clip of Ben Stiller talking because
it had been like twenty something years since that MTV
Movie Awards where he was protecting Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
he was like reminiscing about it, and he was like,
I thought i'd be nervous. He's like, but the second
I started doing it like he was, he was just
all in and he's like and that made it so

(01:04:22):
much easier. I thought, I don't know what the fuck
is how he was going to react, and he's like,
he started laughing. Then I started He's like that scene
where they just kind of start laughing, like and they
made on each other. He just said that just started
with him laughing and then Tom Cruise reacting and him
just kind of they just kept reacting to each other.
Beautiful moment for all my old ass chooge listeners out
there who remember that storied MTV Movie Awards when we

(01:04:46):
used to watch them live.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
The premise was that Ben Stiller is his body double,
right Yeah, But then like he's like and we're exact,
We're basically the same person, and it's clear that he
has this like obsessive relationship with him and it's like
trying to make things happen quite working both five seven too.
So there you go. What is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 14 (01:05:11):
Okay, this is something that when I used to live
in the Bay and I had rich ass friends who
were and they shout up to the friends.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
To me anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
They would soon start making phone calls again once they
get the metaglasses. Yeah, point to their temple and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
They call CVS, CBS.

Speaker 14 (01:05:41):
Your extra care savings. They like would outsource like all
of their chores. And I'm like, I feel like chores
are underrated, like cleaning, like get it, like laundry dishes, cleaning,
like you don't want to be overwhelmed by it. But
if you haven't like changed your child's diaper ever, then

(01:06:02):
like I feel like you're not living in the same
plane of existence as me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
You don't change?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, daddy Daddy Bear doesn't get his pause dirty with don.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Do.

Speaker 14 (01:06:19):
I don't know what your audience is, but the bears
are tuning in, okay, very excited.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
That is so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, I mean like when whenever I hear people like
earnestly be like, oh I don't change diapers, I'm like,
you're a fuck.

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
Up person, kind of Like we talked about this with
like JD.

Speaker 14 (01:06:37):
Vance, right, didn't we didn't He have something about like
not interacting with his kid in like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I forget if it's one of the many famous
Vance quotes where he's like I think he's like he's
like my wife like likes to like coddle them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
I just kind of yell at him, and you're like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Oh, the mama dada bear. You know, I am a
me into them and don't really look at them. I
don't want to deal with that ship. And then my
wife cleans up my like.

Speaker 7 (01:07:06):
I learned it from Succession. That's how I learned. That's
the parenting book I read.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, it's like that's a show man, that's a show.
It's a it's a it's a parenting tone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Actually yeah, yeah, And just generally, I do think boredom downtime,
Like I listen to podcasts a lot for a fucking
living sometimes and but just like carving out time to
do boring tasks like clean up without anything, without like

(01:07:40):
anything going on, you know, just like.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
The mind mindfulness as as true as a chore wheel.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
What's your favorite shore? What's your favorite chore?

Speaker 14 (01:07:48):
I really like doing laundry, Like I like I like
the like the folding and putting a way of laundry
because it feels like a fresh start.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
I also get to look at things that I have
and be grateful for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Them, and like you know what I mean.

Speaker 14 (01:08:01):
I'm like, oh, like this is a cute Yeah, and
I also like don't like I don't like things too much.
We have to wash my hands a lot because my
hands get like dry really quickly, so like dishes. I
don't like or like like cleaning the toilet and like
washing my hands, you know, like I just don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Weird, like washing your hands after using the toilet.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
Listen.

Speaker 14 (01:08:25):
I think that you don't need to use shampoo and
you don't need to wash your hands.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
Okay, you you odorant can be made out of bark.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Okay, well, when the Democrats take over, you'd be a
great pick for Secretary of Defense.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Yeah, excuse me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Germ theory his hands after he pooped because it like
made him stronger somehow. I was just reading back to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Like the next a signal chat with ship hands. Yeah,
he's like, hey, get my cell phone, man, bring my
phone over here. You're like.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
There's He's like, how come the charging ports all clogged
up with stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
He's like, I don't know. That's why I got the
magnetic charger because that hole is all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Like crust, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
The I was reading a thing that like it was
a poll of parents talking about allowances and like how
kids like like the financial awareness of children and of
like these two thousand parents that they had pulled, they
were saying, they're like average allowance is around one hundred
and twenty bucks a month.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And I was like, damn inflation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
I'm like, how come wages actually haven't gone up in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
With allowances?

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Really everything's gone up five bucks a week And if I.

Speaker 14 (01:09:42):
Was lucky, we didn't because my parents were like, this
is your home. But also like they didn't ask us
to do too many things like they did obviously like
the majority of stuff, but they'd ask us to help
like a little bit here and there. They wanted us
to be kids basically yeah and and so. But they
were also like, we're not going to pay.

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
You like you live here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
It was yeah, like I was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
The thing was like they would pay me to pick
up dog poop and like they had like a per
bag thing. I was breaking down pieces of ship and
bagging it up individually.

Speaker 7 (01:10:16):
My allowance poop trap house like just cutting but.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Naked butt naked bagging it up. The balloon meant something totally.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Different for you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Trying to put poop into a balloon.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I wouldn't easy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
You just need a thing that opens it up. I
do it all the time.

Speaker 7 (01:10:39):
You do it now to your wife.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
You get you get a PVC.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Pipe thing that's big enough. Just wrap the end of
it right there. Then perfect funnel.

Speaker 14 (01:10:48):
You're gonna get accused of fraud and your parents going
to require back pay on this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I'm sorry, already they required, They've already demanded it, and
I have to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Paul of what's something you think is overrated?

Speaker 14 (01:11:00):
Okay, this is something I'm starting to recently. I think
I've done it throughout different points in my life. I
think like shopping online, shopping at stores overrated. Shop at
your friend who hoards stuff's place because they have a wonderful, unique.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Selection of items.

Speaker 14 (01:11:20):
Curated goods, Yeah, curated goods that they find value in
maybe you will too. And then also I feel like
they're more likely to relinquish it to someone that they
know and love, so you're helping them.

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
And it's free. It's like the Facebook marketplace of like,
you know issues, It's something.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Right, it feels like it works perfectly, like psychologically with
the mentality of a hoarder who's like I have to
keep that because I never know when someone might need
it or I might and you, as a third party
come in and go.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Hey, you know I could get a lot of use
out of that. Please take it, please?

Speaker 15 (01:11:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Yeah, yeah, because the growing away, I feel like is
the thing, right, Yeah, they want to Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
It's like extreme sustainability.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
So what happened? So what did you get in your
latest hoarder shopping?

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
They got a really cool jean jacket Okay new, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
New with tags WTS no tags.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
But it was new, it was like never used.

Speaker 14 (01:12:22):
And then I got like, I'm getting like a comforter
because I like don't have a comforter.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
I don't want to like get great ship. I thought
you're gonna be like an old Game Day program from now.

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
You have hoarders do have nice ship.

Speaker 14 (01:12:38):
Sometimes you know, like it's it's you gotta you gotta
be friends with the most people they are like, I
want to be friends with with a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Guy with a boat.

Speaker 7 (01:12:46):
Fuck that. Yeah, I don't want a boat that's full
of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
You want to be friends with someone who has three
thousand unopened coke cans from the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 14 (01:12:56):
Yeah, if I need a wire, I can just go,
I don't need to. What is the radio shack is
on a business type?

Speaker 7 (01:13:04):
Yeah, any any sort of wire I call my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Sounds more organized than the hoarders that I'm familiar with.

Speaker 7 (01:13:13):
Yeah, you need to you need to have like it's
a very specific sounds like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
You cultivate, relate, you hord relationships with hoarders.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm so sorry.
I feel like that ultimate really minimalizing.

Speaker 13 (01:13:30):
I take them down, vampire, Yeah, take them down by
hoarding them yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:13:45):
People, you know, they are all these like hoarder reality shows.
I'm doing the I'm doing the hard work away from camera, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
After the production team leaves pulls up.

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
Yeah, I'm the person.

Speaker 14 (01:13:56):
I'm like the boom mic operator and I'm like, hey,
if you don't want to, you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Need just while you're operating boom, You're like, hey you
need that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
What's that thing over there?

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Hey that therapist is actually really fucked up. Come talk
to me after this because.

Speaker 7 (01:14:09):
And you're like, you're actually just hoarding other people.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
You are, You're outsourcing your place to be a secondary
unit for revers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Just a wall of old newspapers.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Stacked up precariously, I might need to read.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
I have a good friend who's in the process of
moving and he's like a reverse hoarder where he's now
I'm having to be like, don't throw that out.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
Okay, I was going to say, like minimalism.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah, he's thrown away like a work of art from
his grandfather who's like a famous artist.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
Is he mentally okay though? Because worries I'm actually I
was like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
That's this is good. You you'll want this. He's like, well,
I I haven't used it in like a couple in the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Kay smacks of somebody who has a lot of resources.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Exactly what it's going to say.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Oh really yeah, oh no, that's really bad because like
the people I know who are like that are truly
everything so disposable whatever we want, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
And like this is a sentimental value.

Speaker 7 (01:15:18):
Yeah, so crazy. No, I would check on him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
He believes in not sing Lebowski. Yeah, does he have
any nice stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Because yeah, roll by some grandfather art. Hey, what's up
with their shoes?

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
What size you my man?

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
I'm a twelve you I'll take a wait, I'm wearing these.
You don't need them?

Speaker 7 (01:15:36):
What's that it's sentimental. I don't have any sentiments.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Give it to me, weird pot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I'm dumping all this dust out of this pot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
What is this that was my grand phone?

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
What is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are?

Speaker 6 (01:15:50):
Something that I can say that just guess my mom
listens to. This is my my last google. I was
searching Minnesota spiders, all right. We were talking about this
before the show a little bit. I actually have been
googling spiders because there's a fat spider in my yard.
That is if you know when a bug is too
so big that you're like, I think, if I kill you,
I go to jail. Is that it's that level of spider.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
It's really I take like several blows, like a yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
It's not a it's not a it's not a fly
swatter situation. We're squaring up. We're bad.

Speaker 18 (01:16:24):
I need gloves, I need a pan, a can of paint,
yeah yeah, and like a torch. But so this this
I my My My position is outdoor spiders are fine.
They're they're not bothering me whatever. I need to cut
my law.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
My lot is looking terrible right now because I am
that the spider is the alpha in my yard right now.
The spider is the alpha myleer. It's literally one. But
I'm not kidding. It's probably it's probably like a it's
bit for me from Minnesota. It's bit right, like if
I if I kill it, it'll crunch, and I don't
like that sort of I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
I don't want to disturb it. It's like it's kind
of like a it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
You're concerned, like you're gonna be mowing your lawn and
then you're gonna lawnmower the funk out of it or something,
or you just don't want it, or it's gonna descend
on you as your mom.

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
It's going to touch me. Yeah, I don't want to ye. Yeah,
I don't let it burn. I don't care. But like
it's it's just big enough that I feel like it
might have a margin of intelligence and I would have
to push more through it if I'm going to cut
my grass. So I've been thinking about, like should I
leave it? It's deadly if that's a stupid question in Minnesota,
but whatever, So I spiders and I was just trying

(01:17:35):
to see what kind of spider does. I still haven't
quite figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
When you said you googled Minnesota spi I thought I
was hoping it was like a minor league hockey team.
That does sound good, the Minnesota Spiders, you know what
I mean, because I know University of Richmond. They're Spiders.
I always like, whenever I see that jery that basketball
Jersey'm like, that's the sickest jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
It really fucking spiders on it. Yeah, this is with
the Spider as a mascot, which is really odd to me.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
Yeah, people people choose demon over spider. That's how much
they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Yeah, that is wild anything but a spider, huh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Like multiple colors of demon. There's like blue demon, red devil,
like yeah, and then double the worst article clothing. Yeah,
a lot of colors. What do we go with? Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 6 (01:18:24):
One's done the roaches yet or anything that's that's that's
the bottom twos. But probably intimidating, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
They're like alphas. Yeah, they're bullying you out of your
own yard.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Imagine imagine losing to the Spiders and then they just
like lay eggs in your girl after.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
The game or something like that. You know, yeah, exactly.
They're like and thousands of them.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
Probably you're a father. Now I'm not going to be
here to take care of it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
You've got three thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I think that's pregnanti Uh. Yeah, I've got I've got
a spider in my front yard that has been it's
just like found the best spot. So it's like always
outside the same window. Yeah. It's built an elaborate web
that like comes down sometimes and then we'll just be
back the next day. Is just out here building and

(01:19:14):
then feasting. It is getting like noticeably bigger as it was,
like is killing it. It had a great September. I now,
do you guys have this?

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
You're in La right, Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
Do you have those?

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
We don't have them here yet, but they they're on
the East coast and I'm waiting for this when this happens.
Do you have those like quote unquote flying spiders like
they float on their webs and then they're huge and
they just like rain down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
From the sky and just lad No, but I've seen
videos of those. Get ready Yeah, yeah, I'm My spider
car was really good. So I'm like I'm like, yeah,
bring it, man, I fuck with you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:52):
People are worried about AI. They should be worried about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Raining spiders raining from the sky. One of my favorite
like piece of information I learned and the past couple
of years was that like the sky, like you look
up at the sky and it appears to be blue
or gray or whatever, but like it's actually full of bugs.
Like the bugs are just like flying, not just like
flying bugs, but like bugs that bugs that don't fly

(01:20:15):
just like catch a ride on the wind all the time.
And like there, if you just like cut a square
chunk like of the sky above you, there would just
be like tens of thousands of bugs just like floating
around up there. The bugs, Yeah, they just like decide
they don't want to be where they are, and they
just like lift up their arms and get taken away
on that gust of wind. It's fucking sick.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
That's freedom.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:20:40):
They're actively trying to their own lives and then they
just have the best ride of their life.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
I'm good, now, that's right. I'd like to do that.
They're like hands up, and you put your hands up
and then just get somewhere else, Batman, get dark knighted.

Speaker 12 (01:20:56):
Out of there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Oh right, and that is it for this special Indigenous
People's Day edition of OOPS all Overrated, Underrated, and we
will be back tomorrow with a whole last episode of
the show.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Bye.

Speaker 14 (01:21:09):
The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by Katherine Law,
co produced by Bee Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Co produced by Victor Wright

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
Co written by j M mcnapp, and edited and engineered
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