Pizza My Heart, US Tourism On Fire (The Bad Way) 08.07.25

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
My wife has Celiacs and like gluten. They have a
gluten free pizza at this Mancos and Manco's place and
they don't cut it because they put like one of
those plastic pizza wheels like in the box with the
gluten free pizza. And part of me is like it
is funny that they just don't trust themselves, do not

(00:26):
contaminate like the pizza. They're like, right, we bought this vay,
Like here's a utensil that's not easy to find, Like
it's not like you can.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do it so you can cut it.
It's like a Fisher's price, like pizza cutter. My first
pizza cutter. It's not.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I think I developed arthritis in my wrist from trying
to cut the thing because or if I already had it,
I made it worse.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Trying to cut with it is like trying to write
with a pen that's out of ink. You're just like
going over and over again.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
If I at the point, Actually, it's really pretty rare
in Italy for them to cut the pizza for you.
They're just like you have a knife and a fork,
you're an adult. You're an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
They just asshole, They flung it at your face. Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Are you? You a little baby?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
You neizza cut Oh? That does feel like the message
they're sending where they're like, plastic pizza cutter for you.
Celiac baby. Yeah, Celiac baby, you need us not to
use real flower. Here's a little plastic pizza cut you.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Little Tommy, can't handle can't handle weed you, little Tommy.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season four hundred, Episode
four of I Guess. We continue our very special Season
four hundred Extravaganza, which we we've we've prepared many special things,
many ordinary episodes without one of the co hosts. Here

(02:06):
just for you, guys, just for you, Zei Gang, as
a way of saying thank you for you for sticking
with us. We don't realize we're coming up on landmarks
like this, even though I say what season it is
at the beginning of every episode. We're reminded every single day,
and yet I was shocked that we were at season

(02:27):
four hundred. Like at the end of last week, I
was like three ninety nine. That can only mean one thing. Anyways,
Welcome to season four hundred. It's been a blast. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
America Shared consciousness. I'm being told, Wow, that bad decision

(02:48):
four hundred seasons ago to make that the premise of
our podcast. It's Thursday, August seventh, twenty twenty five. My
name is Jack O'Brien ak. It was p Jack. We
all know that. Don't blame wood or ice no more,
no more. It was pissed Jack. Don't blame wood or
ice no more. That one courtesy of doctor Mondo, PhD,

(03:11):
who resurfaced this one. Thank you very much. In reference
to so the scene of the crime back at the
scene of the crime in Ocean City. The time that
I rode a scary ride, admittedly a scary ride at
Wonderland Pier with my cousins Preston or with my nephews

(03:31):
and your family. Yes, Rip, we will talk about that.
Walked off the ride. My shorts were wet. Nobody knows
why the ride was scary. But I did not piss
my pants. I yes, I had been known for pissing
my pants at a certain point in my life when

(03:52):
I drank too much, but I did not. I was
sober at the time. Find a new angle. I just
guessed that maybe somebody had on of water ice onto
the ride and.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's anyways, someone piss onto your.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Somebody somebody else pissed my pants. Maybe is what is
what I think, but yeah, I don't know. My relationship
to the Zeit Gang is similar to my relationship to
my cousins, where you know, you piss yourself on one
ride five years ago, say it must be water ice,
start crying when they ask you follow up questions, and

(04:29):
you know they won't let you forget it every time
you're in Ocean Sydney and suddenly you're Rita's wooter ice
piss pants cry baby guy. Thanks a lot, Doctor Mondo PhD.
I do appreciate it. Appreciate you and all the people
who do the wonderful akas for us, you're a bit
huge part of this show. We love you. Hey. Speaking

(04:50):
of we love you, we're thrilled to be joined in
our second seat by a brilliant comedian, writer actor Knew
a special Daddy Long Legs. Ugh loves talking about his legs.
The special is really good. His legs are also pretty good.
That's set one of our favorite guests. And yet on

(05:10):
the other hand, he is the coiner of the disgusting
phrase plumpers to describe his thighs. Please welcome back to
the show, Blake wexland.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ooh nice note, this is Blake Wexler AKA. I love
it when you look at my plump bers. My pants
are gonna tear six XL underwear. I love it when
you look at big plumpers, that yummy south of tummy,
bigger than old Deuteronomy. I love it when you call
it plumpers. Oh that's filth. Thanks for having me this week.
It's great to be on season four hundred.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Season four hundred of this year. We made it. A
lot of people said three hundred, maybe four hundred seasons.
Not a chance in hell they said it. Many were saying,
can't they.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Just follow the British television model of two seasons with
six episodes in them and then fucking done.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But now we do follow their model and the number
of episodes per season. But we've gone a few beyond
what's normal for the British to season four hundred, Blake,
we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by one of the funniest comedy writers doing it anywhere
you know. Her words from the account bird's rights activist
on Twitter some more news with Cody Johnston. You know

(06:25):
her voice from podcasts such as Creature Feature and Secretly
Incredibly Fascinating. Please welcome, coming all the way from the Brilliant,
the Talented. It's Kenny Gobay Jack.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I didn't realize you were Italian.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
All right, you're so good. I mean, I know about
the phrase when in Rome earlier before we started recording
pizza for breakfasts, like an Italian meatballs for lunch and
antipasta for dinner. A lot people don't realize that. And
I eat dinner at two am. It's like an Italian.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Like an Italian Actually almost true. They eat very late here.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I know they eat so late. It's actually like the
antiposty is the main course. The cigarettes are the antipasti course,
and then the four or five glasses red wine are deserted.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, there's usually a little little digestive bit of alcohol,
a little bit of lemon cello after. It's like it's
for your digestion.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's proposti never once stop.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, it's never once stopped. My gurd, Yeah, not a
single time.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't even know what GURD is.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Gill reflux disorder.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh okay, who's Italian now, Jack, I think Italian. That's
a little fun Italian word.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That you've picked up over there. How long have you
been over there, Katie?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
About four years now?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Oh amazing. Yeah, Jesus Blake Blake. Before we start recording,
Blake was like, Katie, and you're still in la and
which was which is great?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Been there for years as I was looking at myself
in the mirror, like listening to anybody's clue examining his legs.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, so they've grown doing curls for some reason. Katie.
We're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things
we're talking about today, and some of these are stories
that you contributed. Because in addition to Miles being out
this week, so's our writer Jam mcnap is out this week,

(08:47):
Katie Goldenbod wants to worry Paula ve Ganalin filling in
on the writing front. So we've got a bunch of
fun stories from Katie and Paulay.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, really nice eemil from you guys. We've looked everywhere
we can't find anyone else was worded to you. Yeah,
it's Victor was very nice.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
He's very nicture, is just the most just stone faced,
like a slight smile while sliding the knife in between
my reachs. You know what I'm saying. This guy, Victor's
like biggest sweetheart in the world.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And he sends me pictures of condemned buildings at two
o'clock in the morning every single day.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Picked me up.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I was someone in my life like that.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Hey you yeah, yeah, I like the Victor. One thing
we're going to be talking about is, uh, how how's
tourism going in the US? I just I do like
to always whenever Katie's on, ask like, how are we
looking to you from outside? Looking good? Seemed good? So

(09:54):
we'll talk about that. We're gonna talk about the fascism timeline.
Where we're at. This is a question that I've frequently
ask myself. M Guessing. The New Yorker writer has had
some things to say about this. I always find their
insight valuable because they lived through Putin's rise and Russias

(10:14):
fall into authoritarianism, and they are one of the people
who from twenty sixteen has been like, hey, this is
looking a lot like Putin like a lot, I know
that a lot, like We're Completely Fuck one of my

(10:37):
favorite songs for any time of year. That and first Noel,
we were talking on yesterday. Did you guys see the
Panama playlists which are like elite somebody leaked famous and
powerful people's Spotify playlists and jd Vance has won for
making dinner. And first of all, all these people's playlists

(10:59):
are just like Backstreet Boys and Sync and Britney Spears songs.
For some reason, they're all just like Hillary Duff, like
just Vanessa Carl, just like the songs that were playing
on the radio ambiently in like early hot teen movies.
But anyways, he kicks off like in a playlist full
of that and just like random like jack FM cut.

(11:23):
He kicks it off with first Noel for making dinner.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Making dinner.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
YEA what better song? Anyways, we'll talk about tourism, disaster
tourism in the United States, we'll talk about RFK killing
it all that plenty more. But first Katie, we do
like to ask our guests, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I did Google Swallow Nest because I was curious about
swallow nest soup, and I had this vague notion that
it was mostly bird spit. And I thought people who
are like having swallenness soup are like mostly consuming bird spits.
So I looked it up. I was right. It is
so the swallowness are mostly hardened swift spit. I mean,

(12:13):
it's confusing because they're actually swifts or swiftlets, they aren't swallows.
Even though it's called swallow nest and it's like a
bunch of spit, it's kind of got it's got kind
of like it's an interesting texture of these nests because
it's sort of like no, no, no, I kind of
want to.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
But I want you to yes. I also want you
to yes if you.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Guys buy it for it's like thousands of dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
So it's yeah, it's did pull that down easy juice three.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's got like a almost like a taffy texture because
it's like the bird is sort of three D printing
the nest with its spit coming out of its mouth
sort of back. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, So it's not like gumming together a bunch of
like branches with its spit. It's pure spit. The whole
thing is.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's mostly spit at least what they collect. I think
they have to clean stuff off of it, probably like
bird shit and stuff, feathers. I imagine they're cleaning these
nests before consumption. But the stuff, but the stuff that
you're eating is like almost completely bird spit.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, so like you get to be a baby bird
for a moment. Yes, yeah, that's kind of cute.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, that's fun. It's kind of mouth. It's like French
kissing a bird in your soup.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So they are so into these birds that they will
eat their spit, but they didn't bother to get the
right one.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
They're like, okay, yeah, I don't know why. It's a
swift sand swallows are quite similar, to be fair, So
I don't know. I don't know who came up with
that misnomer.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Swift yea swift nest soup both very difficult for some
people to say, but also maybe not a swallowed nest.
I thought you were just like googling, like can I
swallow this nest?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean essentially that is a question.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, those bird's nest or what Katie, what's the base
of the soup, Like is it like is there a
broth or is it just straight spit?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Put it in a broth and it kind of turns
into this gelatinous texture.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, it's I'm not sure if I would be able
to like the idea that it's bird spit is actually
not the part that bothers me. When I read about
its texture being described as gelatinous once it was in
the soup made me feel not great about it. Yeah,
why gelatinous is not a good word, and it's not

(14:46):
off it feeling.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It is just good to know if you're ever like, hmm,
I wonder if like I should try that berry. Maybe
nobody's tried it before, and it's fine. We've tried everything.
People have tried everything. If it's possible to eat, people
have tried it and they know about it, and it's
considered a delicacy somewhere, so you don't have to worry

(15:09):
about that. Like somebody has eaten somebody took a nest
of a bird and was like, soup maybe as well.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, my aunt makes this soup, makes something called lasagna soup,
and my friend Todd and I laughed at like, well,
she tried to make lasagna and clearly made it to
watery and just said it was like, oh no, it's
a lasagna soup. It's like, no, you fucked lasagna and
that's what this is.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's that's worse. I would definitely have the bird the
bird soup for sure. It's also like we eat a
lot of like stuff that when you think about it,
it's a little gross, like honey is bee vomit like
be regurgited.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Tho it's very maybe maybe so swift.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's I mean, I think because it's so love is
got to have something going on. I'm not I'm not
dissing the soup. It is very expensive. I cannot afford it,
but yeah, I mean like, also, I don't I realize
I don't check all the time that shrimp are deveined,
especially like if it's like I'm eating so much shrimp.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Poop, shrimp shit you in particular. Yeah, literally, because I
realized that I had only eaten three pieces of pizza
for breakfast right before we recorded, I went and ate
six shrimp cocktail that we had left over in the
so I just as I'm digesting shrimp, I do like

(16:38):
to think about that that might have been like, you know,
a healthy portion, a healthy heaping of a shrimp.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Shitve Maco, Manco, Manco and deveins their pizza.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Is that correct? No, that's actually what gives it the flavor,
That's what gives it that little punch. Superducer Bay says
that the swallow nest soup is more dessert in China,
So Appia, I wonder help food. You know how some
vodka kind of is or not vodka vomit is kind

(17:10):
of like sweet smelling sure, yeah, yeah, I wonder if
that's one of the other. Also, they found a valentine
for Manco and Manco's that looks like it was created
by my seven year old. Everything, like the Filly area

(17:32):
really does feel like you are in a different country
that has a different level of Like the billboards are like,
these don't seem like they were professionally made.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well, I'm also not sure about the actual test text,
not just the design, because it says roses are red,
violets are blue. I'd give a pizza my heart to you.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, like a pizza.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Are you giving the pizza the heart?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
No? No, I'd give a pizza my heart to you
like a piece of my heart.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
A pizza my heart.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
The heart is clogged like you want my heart? Yeah, yeah,
A pizza my Heartizza my heart, A piece of my
heart is the name of the episode. What is something
you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
So okay, I learned this story relatively recently and I
can't believe.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
It feels like it needs to be taught in schools.
It's the City Corps Center Engineering Crisis. Guys hear about this.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
You guys know about this. I can't wait to hear more.
My favorite journalist, Edward R. Murrow, was always a Jay Leno,
So with that lead in, I can't I can't wait
to hear what's next.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's it's a skyscraper that's built on stilts. It was
built in the seventies and the reason it's on stilts
is that there's like a church underneath it that refused
to move. But the City Corps was able to get
the property rights like above the church, but not the
church itself. So their architect and engineer came up with this,

(19:08):
like we'll put it on stilts. The skyscraper. It's not
a building, so it's just like up on stilts. Uh,
And it's kind of like they're they're not on the
edges of the building, but sort of on the inside.
It's kind of like if you had a stool and
then the the stilts of the stool were really crowded,
sort of near the middle. Yeah, it doesn't seem very stable.

(19:32):
So yeah, the City Corps Center right in New York City,
right in them.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Man, man, man, that sounds terrible.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, so yeah, it's right of me and.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Chi.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, I didn't notice the big building on top of
it all these years.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
So it's this great of engineering. The structural engineer Bill
le Measure, which is a good.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Name, and I really the measure Bill.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Measure, and it's gonna get really ironic. So uh. He
was in charge of designing the building.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And then after the building was already built, it's out there,
people are in it. Everyone's like, wow, building on stilts.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Uh. He discovered a fatal flawet that he's by his calculations,
it had like an almost one hundred percent chance in
the next century of collapsing and killing a bunch of people.
So already hilarious. So it was made with bolted struts
instead of welted struts. Amateur move. I mean, I know
what you guys are thinking. Like, why did they go

(20:37):
with it bolted? We yeah, welded. Yeah right, And so
basically Bill a measure did not measure by the way
it did.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Bill, but he did not measure.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, a hurricane was coming and I was going to
kill a bunch of people. So he discovered that he
did not for sorry, well, there's something called quartering winds,
which is just like sideways winds. So he like calculated
the effects on each face, but not the quartering winds.

(21:25):
Amateur move. And so because the struts were bolted rather
than welted, something to do with like sheer versus other forces,
you know, physics, and so like if this hurricane hit Manhattan,
this was in nineteen seventy eight, the building would go down.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And he k it in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
He built it, Yeah, like he built it in the seventies.
So in nineteen seventy eight he actually whistled blue on
himself because he was like he had at some points,
like I consider just driving off a bridge point because
this was like a huge mistake and it all it
really only came surface because he kept getting questions from
structural engineering grad students were like, how does this building work?

(22:10):
You don't understand it. He's like, let me check them out,
let me measure again. Yeah, And so he was mere right,
And it was actually a really incredible building because it
was like the first one that had uh something called
a tuned mass dampener which is sort of like a
weight on springs that when the building sways and wind,

(22:34):
it like counters the sway so the building doesn't sway
as much. So it was it was, it was very
cool and like buildings still use that, like this was
the first building that used it, so it was actually
it was a really It's not like this structural engineer
was an idiot. He was really really good. He just
didn't realize his firm used bolted struts and he hadn't
done this calculation. So he like told city corpse. City

(22:58):
Corps panicked and told this city. The city panicked. But
then they decided to like in secret, they did not
tell the public because they didn't want them to panic.
In secret, they had construction crews come in the dead
of night into the building and replace the struts. Like
they added I think they just had to add more
bolts or add more struts to it to make it safe.

(23:19):
And so they would go like come in at night
in secret. It was a secret for almost twenty years
that this building almost came down. And then they're like, yeah,
that happened, don't worry about it. It was fine, it turned
out great. They did fix it, Yes, they fixed it,
and they had a but the city had this evacuation

(23:40):
planned for like ten city blocks for people if the
hurricane was going to hit, because they were not going
to be able to finish the renovations in time for
the hurricane. So it's just like their plan B was
like everyone out of Manhattan, just leave please.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I love this story. I agree it should
be taught in schools. I have another story that I
think is similar, with a less happy ending that I
think explains basically the modern world. Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back. We'll talk about this story. We're not
gonna get to any of the news stories we talked
about today about the way anybody, but you know, those
are things that are happening. But well, we'll take a

(24:15):
quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back. And
one thing I love about that story is that he
built an impossible looking building and it was like and
was not careful about it. It was just like, yeah, no,

(24:38):
it's creepy, but like that saved his ass there, just
like that wild man, like, how is that possible? And
he was like possible. Oh shit, it isn't. I don't know.
I'll talk about this every once in a while that
there was this huge landslide in Peru that like destroy

(25:00):
in an entire town, like a town of like there
were thirty thousand people who die, and like I think
it was eight years before this landslide happened. It was
caused by an earthquake. A group of climbers like was
climbing the mountain that it happened on and were like
oh no, and came down told like everybody, told all

(25:23):
the people who were like you know, officials, and they
were kicked out of the country because they didn't want
to cause a panic. They're being made Yes, you just
being too negative, and then yeah, yeah, but I'm actually.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
At capacity right now. I can't hear about landslides.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Thank you. That's such a hard four months. You cannot please.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
You're trying to get me to do emotional labor about landslides.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Your shit on me right now?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
That is trauma dumping, all right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's but it's because I think about that story every time.
People are like, why is nothing happening with climate change?
And some people are like, well, it's kind of this
like diffuge problem. It's like too much of a bummer,
And it's like, well, even when it's an acute problem
with like a very specific like see that mountain that's
gonna come down on you and it's gonna kill everybody

(26:18):
like very soon the next time there's an earthquake something
like that specific. And they were like literally, not only
did people just like kind of make the jack off
hand motion and like go on with their day, they
kicked them out of the country for.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Like for saying it being too much of a bummer.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, you are hereby deported arm being a fucking bummer. Man.
It's so scary how that just keeps happening.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Where we just watched that that new net geo Ryan
kogl Or documentary on Katrina, which is so sad and
a really good documentary, but it's just one of the
things where like, guys, these levees are dog shit, like
we have no we knew about that. Yeah, this is
so bad. Yeah everyone knew. No, no, no, I'm sorry, go ahead, Yeah,
you're gonna say something more intelligent.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, no, no, people who like paid attention to the news,
like they were saying that every time on an earthquake
or every time a hurricane would like come through there,
they'd be like, in the levees are gonna break the
next time, like a with a direct hit. And then
as Katrina was approaching that, they're like, you know, the
levees might break with a direct hit. And then the
levees broke with a direct hit, and they didn't fucking evacuate.
They like didn't have anybody there to help in case

(27:31):
of that very disaster that had been predicted one hundred times.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
And even after they broke, people were like, I mean,
why is there so much water in this city?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
This crazy deal with water. It's a wet white supremacy.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, it was white supremacy and turned abouts of color.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Anyways, all right, great underrated? What's something you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
So I read this book that was on the New
York Times bestseller list of bunch of time called.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Christ Get It.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I don't know these parts of the show when people
talk about books.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So it was called Remarkably Bright Creatures, And I was
under the impression, based on the cover art as well
as the synopsis of the book, that this was going
to be about a mystery solving octopus, and it was
barely about that. Maybe five percent of the book was related.

(28:29):
It was a novel, and I thought it was going
to be heavy book. It's normal. I don't know, it's normal.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's just a book.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's a book, but it's but it's fiction.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Do you know what fiction? Sorry, Katie, we got to
stop down here and tell Blake.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's what happens when things are rubbing together, right and
they don't.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Actually, you know, we don't have time. We don't have
to keep going, keep going.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
So like it was, it was like so it did
have some octopus in it. Most of it, though, was
like feel good family crap, and I could not give
less of a shit Like I the only parts of
the book I wanted to read was about this mystery
solving octopus, and the author made the baffling decision that

(29:15):
that was not the interesting part. The interesting part was
following some random guy trying to track down his dad
that he hadn't seen since he was born, and his
grandma whatever it was, and it was the big I'm
so mad.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
People have a real like human bias, you know, where
they're just like, the most interesting part would be this
person and what they think about their parents. It's like, uh, yeah,
we know. By the way, word for word, word for word,
you're the first half of that review. It was my
review of Finding Dory. Also, it was like, I could

(29:55):
have been about a crime solving octopus and instead of
fam friendly bullshit.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
You got that into the New York Times, by the way,
yea by.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Taking out a full page. Of course.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well it doesn't matter how you get it in there.
It's it's the destination, not the journey.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, that's why I'm a New York Times bestseller, by
the way, when you call myself that on a full page.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yet, when you said brightest animals, I thought you were
going to talk about the angler fish and other animals
with lights coming off of would have been better.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
So there these are creatures that give off light, and
just a list of them in a book. What I
would have enjoyed more And.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Were the people smart? Was the person and their.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Dad smart and they weren't. They weren't very smart. They
the author said, like this person is smart, and then
everything else was to the contrary. So, and there was
just so much focus on detail that I didn't care about.
It was like kind of it was like cock teasing
this octopus and I'm not giving us any of this

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fucking octopus.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, that's fucked up. So remarkably bright creatures, go fuck yourself.
I put that in Italian.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
If the very sweet author ever there is broken, it
seems like a very nice lady.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
You're more than welcome on our show. I'm sure there
was a recent story about an octopus. Did you see
that story where a octopus that couldn't solve any crime
but is a Pacific giant octopus or something something? The
other in the San Antonio aquarium was accused of like
trying to pull a child into the tank.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Somehow nice about that one octopus solves the crime, the
other octopus does the crime.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah. According to Brittany Tarrian, this is the mother's name,
which is just two white lady names matched together. But
on TikTok said, the octopus starts coming out of the
tank and the reason we don't have pictures or videos
of this is because my friend was also freaking out.
And then she said that her child got bruises on

(32:12):
the arm and the octopus was not letting go.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I mean, so I have insight into this where this
is a new thing that the San Antonio aquariums doing,
where it helps. So one of the kids, there were
two kids. The kid who was grabbed was wearing a
Kansas City Chief's hat. The other kid was wearing an
Eagles hat. Because it's how they predict Super bowls now
where the octopus pulls a child wearing the hat, which.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Child is drowned by the octopus, so it looks like
it's the chiefs in twenty twenty six tragedy on two counts.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I thought you were going to say that that child
was you, and they were just like, we've got to
make it a child otherwise it's not going to be believable.
They thought I was a child. He was human sized
and had a full beard, but he was licking a
lollipopping out a propeller hat and progress like.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
There was two thousand applicants and I made it through
all of it. How did you realize I wasn't a child?
All right, let's get into some news. Let's talk tourism. Sure,
they're saying tourism bad in America right now. I mean, okay,
So tourism on fire is one way that I'm sure
the news is being given to Trump because have you

(33:29):
noticed that he's really like into things being hot lately.
He's like business hotter than ever, the hottest.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
True literally hottest because he put.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
It, yeah yeah, so hot. Well he's everything. He probably
like puts his own name in quotes. He doesn't know
how quotes work. But anyways, yeah, but the Grand King
in literally hot right now. The dragon Bravo fire has
been going on since July fourth, destroyed dozens of structures,
including the Grand King and Lodge, which is one of
the main tourism necstasies nex sise whoa excise you put

(34:04):
it on the story, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Locus locus of tourism. There we go. And this also
might be tied to the federal government just like not
being staffed anymore, because the way that they handled this
was so there was a lightning strike on the fourth
of July. God was like, hell yeah, America, brother, and

(34:32):
there's a lightning strike, and the federal government was like
it almost feels like they just found out about controlled
burns or something like that day because they were like,
let's do a controlled burn, which you're supposed to do
during the winter when things aren't like hyper flammable. You're
supposed to like start the fire intentionally and like have

(34:52):
a path and you don't just claire a fire that
is not in your control a controlled burn. But that's
what they did, hear, and it got out of control
and hence now you can't go to the Grand Canyon anymore.
On Trump's America, we're also hearing bad news that Vegas
tourism is down in June by eleven percent, and that

(35:15):
was before you know, the Grand Canyon fire, which is
fucking up air quality in that whole region and nobody
can figure it out. Yeah, it's it's weird.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Maybe all the Lost Wages jokes finally hit people, right.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's this is such a welcoming country to foreign tourists
as well coming in, like people weren't afraid. It's it's
so Also, the World Cup is coming up as well
with this fucking awful but in this why would anyone
want to come here during the war. It's the worst timing.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Like instead of having a like tourism camp. You know
other countries I've seen them, they're like visit Italy. It's
the I mean, it's the place every but he visits.
It's fucking sick. Look at look at all this art.
I think that I'm directly quoting the campaign.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Now I hope yea, there so sick.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Look at the art. Then is this fucking the streets
of water dog, Yeah, the streets are again. I think
this might be a Philly specific at campaign. Woldos are
boat pilot.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
We need a we need a Philly pope after the
Chicago Pope.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I know, God, could you imagine he went to Villanova.
He went to Villanova did so he is kind, He
is half oh Man by the way, like you know,
the only logos that you see when you're at the
part of the Jersey Shore where I am are like
Philadelphia Phillies, Philadelphia Eagles no more than sixers because they're
a garbage organization, and then and then Villanova. But Villanova

(36:51):
is big right now. I think I think the Catholics
are very proud to have Villanova Pope down down the shore. Anyways,
some of the reasons that tourism might be down instead
of having a you know, well, come to America, visit
our giant land that you can roam freely. Inside of

(37:12):
our outward messaging has been like, we will fucking we
will lock you up. We're gonna put your family. Look,
we will. We will send you to a country you're
not even from, and you'll end up dead.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Maybe your parents will not know where you are or
that you've ever.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Existed, right well, erase you, like one of those guys
in Stalin pictures, you just like won't be on the
historical record. So that's one thing, and we that's a
tough obstacle to overcome. Yeah, it is. It is too early.
We're still testing the results on that campaign. Also, he's
completely fucked the economy, so people inside America have less

(37:52):
spending power. You know that that does seem like one
of those unfakeable things. It's like if people have money
to go to Vegas, like they can't be doing too
bad because they will go. If they have money to go,
they will go. And if they if they're not going
to Vegas, that means the economy is actually not doing great.
So I don't know what this means because I've heard

(38:13):
Trump is killing it on the economic front. But I
am just curious, Katie, from your perspective, how are we
doing how's it looking from outside? I do remember talking
to a German tourist in the US and they were
like selling me on the US as a tourist destination.

(38:34):
They're like, oh, you should like travel more in the
US because, like we come over there, you can like
go wherever you want. You don't need a passport to
go from state to state. There's so much nature there,
and your cuisine is amazing. No, they didn't say the
cuisine part. But is there a palpable sense that going
to the United States is less attractive and more unwelcoming

(38:58):
than before.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's pretty palpable. I yeah, we've actually been both both
me and my husband have been asked by various people
if it's safe to go to the US and like
asking us for advice, and like they're kind of like saying,
like this is all overblown, right, like I can go,
it's fine, and we're like, uh, maybe, but yeah. I

(39:22):
think it kind of depends also on which country people
come from, Like, uh, a lot, like people we've talked
to who are from South American countries are not necessarily
they're like canceling plans, they're not going. Yeah, Italians I
think are confused and are a little bit wary because

(39:43):
of the news about like border problems. I don't think
they usually have too many issues, but I don't know,
my I mean like I can't. I can't considantly reassure them,
which is weird because they're like, is it safe to
go to the US, like in terms of like the border.
I'm like, I don't know. I mean, like, hopefully if
you have, you've made no mistake on your flight arrangements

(40:07):
or any of your paperwork, and like you didn't pack
too much luggage, so they're gonna like accuse you of
staying longer. Maybe it will be fine, But I can't.
It's very strange to be asked that and not be
able to be like, what are you talking about? It's
fine to go?

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I mean, I think they're confused. Think about Ice having
to decide whether or not to arrest them when they
have dark hair and they don't speak English without an accent.
I mean, very that's hard on Ice too.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Will It's very funny when Italians are sort of prejudiced
against each other because it's guys in the eyes of America.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Right.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Italians.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, we were just.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
In in Ireland last week and obviously this is anecdotal,
but you know, if you have a choice as an
international you know, like coming in internationally to the United States,
you have a choice between almost any country. And also,
why would you go to a country and spend your
money there that is currently waging a trade war against
the entire world, like like in making things more expensive

(41:08):
for you at home, and I mean forget us also
like you know, for them in other countries. And we
also while we were there, I saw so I'm getting
all this Irish pop up ship now on my Instagram.
And the saddest tourism thing I've ever seen was like
this guy, it was an airlinkis thing thing. There's there's
this gargeous unknown city and the United States that you

(41:33):
have to go visit. Direct flights from Dublin to Indianapolis,
and it was like the saddest thing in the There's
nothing to do in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
They have like I think a steakhouse that's supposed to
be good.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
They have steak in Indianapolis, unlike Ireland where there's no
beef products whatsoever. But there's all the comments where like
people saying, I'm from Indianapolis. For the love of God,
do not come here. You deserve so much better than
coming to Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
So you imagine going from Ireland to Indianapolis, Like Ireland
is beautiful. There's just a pub on every corner, people
just like playing just like you know what like movies
from the fifties about like there's a duop group on
every corner, like that kind of community that we made

(42:27):
up that happened in the fifties. Like that's actually what
Ireland's like. There's just a group of people playing fiddles
in every pub who just like they just like randomly
started playing together. They're like, oh, you playing the fiddle,
and like come in with a fucking you know, washboard
that they're playing or some spoons, I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Know, or you could go to a massive convention center, right,
except so it depends on what you like. Everybody has different.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Indianapolis is like a city that was built to host
the NCAA Final Four and the Combine and the Combine
like yeah, stuff like that. It's good for events. It's
good for yeah, like professional like a bunch of sales
people have come in for the weekend to all you know,

(43:11):
hear the key keynote from the CFO of sales force.
That's what Indianapolis, I feel like is good for. I
feel like.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
It's hard to travel as an American now and not
have people like demand to know why we're terifing the
ship out of whatever country you're going to, and it's like,
I don't know. I don't know art of the deal, man, I.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Don't know art of the deal. Brother, It's gonna be big.
It's gonna be real big. We're getting a good deal.
It's gonna be huge. Can just wait, you'll see, all right.
So people people have caught on that.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
It's yeah, they're they're they're were like, and this is
not just big like people on vacation. These are like
researchers who will like like that work at the university
or like is it safe to like go to the
US for conferences and stuff. So like even in their
like professional life, it's are worried. Which again we can't
just be like yeah, no problems. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
No, it's good.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Just I don't know. Check it out Indianapolis. So you've
heard of Minneapolis. That's a good city. So this is
worse for another state that's worse than the other one.
Let's take a quick break, we'll be.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Right back, and we're back.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And I did want to get into an animal story
for animal Queen Katie Golden. I like, that's sick post
podcasts about animals, Clued Creature feature knows so much about animals,
so very learned, so learned. In fact, that she will
read a book and it's bad and she'll keep reading

(44:54):
it until the book is over is something that I've
learned that people do. Yeah, Ah, that's crazy. So they
never went back to the octopus. Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I thought maybe there was gonna it was gonna be
real octopus heavy at the end, and it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
The octopus was the friends that they made all along
with their long lost dead. All right, so we got
an animal story the United States Department of Agriculture and again,
like this is does this still exists? We still have that? Right?
Like I feel like all of these stories are like
it should be understood within the context of all of
these organizations are being fucking gudded. These maybe the death

(45:36):
throes of a dying like somebody who's been gut shot
and is like bleeding, Abut tell my tell my mother,
I love her. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
They're trying the remnants of and the remnants of the
United States Department of Agriculture is using different recorded noises
to scare wolves off from killing cattle and other livestock
on farms across the US.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
So just it is on brand for this administration in
that like they're marshaling their resources to protect steak, to
protect like meat and cows. But anyways, so they're sending
loud speakers out, you know, on drones, and you know,
are just various things broadcasting sounds like fireworks, gunshots, ac

(46:27):
DC's Thunderstruck and the fight scene between Scarlett Johansson and
Adam Driver from the movie Marriage Story.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I mean, it does make you cringe real bad that
that scene.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You are like, oh my god, I think the wolves
are liberals, Like why are they playing all these noises?

Speaker 3 (46:50):
That scene didn't make your palm sweaty.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Made my knees weak. Spaghetti, Mom, spaghetti was on my
spaghetti sweater after that one. I will say that you
also had that for breakfast today. Mom. The USDA District
supervisor in Oregon said of this, I need the wolves
to respond and know that, hey, humans are bad, which

(47:13):
is one way to look at marriage. Also the sickest
endorsement of a hard rock song of all time. That like,
they're using our ship to teach wolves that humans are
bad man like that that's how that's how evil, that's
how hardcore our ship is. Also, this song is played
on jack f M at least twice a day.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
How are But this just kind of sounds like Geneva
style torture, right, Like this is like it's like what
they yeah, what they did with the Branch Davidians right
where they like blasted music at them.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, Barney music, which seems weird because the Branch Davidians,
the whole thing was that they had a bunch of
children in there.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
And they were children were probably psyched for a little Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
But so apparently the drones are working. In a twenty
day period without the drones, eleven cows were killed in
a specific region of Oregon by the wolves over eighty
five days. When the drones were teaching the wolves about
the difficulties of long term monogamous commitment, only two cows
were killed by wolves. However, a dozen cows killed themselves. No,

(48:23):
that that's a that was my j Leno punchline. Here's fun.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
They were just playing the sound of mayvas giving me
the silent treatment. He mayvis is jaywe and his wife.
You know, everyone knows that. Everyone knows that.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I feel like everything in like.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Can you see everything?

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Like Kevin.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
You think he wakes up in the middle of the
night doing that. You heard about this, Kevin Kevin, Kevin Kevin. Sorry, Katie, Oh.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
It just seems like anything that has to do with
like public health or agriculture. Sure Hastinel be through this
like hyper masculine, Like we're going to scarce.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Some wolves there by saving the stakes.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, Like, do we want to look into bird flu
vaccines that might save many more carts?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Transition, great transition, Katie. We do not, we do. RFKA Jr.
Has canceled five hundred million dollars in vaccine research. The
m RNA vaccine, one of the biggest advancements in murna
murna murna is one of the biggest advancements in modern medicine,

(49:43):
is getting five hundred million dollars in research funding pooled
by RFK Jr. This is following six hundred million dollars
in grants being revoked from Maderna as they were researching
vaccines for bird flu.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, I mean, but that's not cool like scaring wolves.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Right exactly, scaring wolves with pop culture stuff that you
don't like. Yeah, yeah, it's they're they're also gutting CDC
pandemic surveillance. Yeah, Which that's the thing that like that
that was the one thing that made me feel okay
after the pandemic was like reading up about how on

(50:26):
top of it, like the scientific community is where they're
like we know when there's like an outbreak of the
flu in another country, like we're on top of that shit.
Like we are constantly monitoring other countries healthcare systems, our
own healthcare systems to see if there's like a slight
flare up, and we will be on that shit, you know,
with nothing is going to sneak up on us.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, Like our pandemic surveillance system in the US was
like internationally renowned, like other countries are like great, this
is We're glad that you have this, and then our
surveillance can coordinate with yours because yours is really good
and just like yeah, but it's not scaring woolf so right, It's.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
It's so crazy that this country just will not learn
a fucking lesson like not one lesson where it's the
same thing, where like I mean, like we were just
talking about with Katrina, or how couldn't we have learned
our fucking lesson about global warming and like how to
take precautions about that.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
It's the same.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
It's not like the pandemic happened in nineteen forty one.
It just it just fucking happened, and it fucked everybody up.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
You know, even if pandemic, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
And that's why that's why I brought it up, is
so we could actually assign the real blame. But it's
like even dumb fucking RFK with his anti vacshit, It's
like the pandemic wasn't fun for him. The guy was
still locked up in a house and like probably the
weird shit that he liked to do was closed, you know,
So like even if you are that stupid and don't

(51:55):
believe in these vaccines, why would you want another one
of these fucking things to happen.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
It's so frustrating. Just the fact that anyone once asked
him to wear a mask anywhere like must have infuriated
him to such a degree. It was like a babysitter
telling him she wasn't attracted to him, you know, like
it was just like the first time he had the
first time he had heard like no or like been

(52:21):
told what to do in his life, and he like
just could not countenance it. He is not cool with
mRNA vaccines, calling it the deadliest vaccine ever made. Katie
as a woman of science, like does that does that
check out?

Speaker 3 (52:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Confirmed?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh no it does not. I mean it has maybe
the most people who have taken it.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
But uh and then you could if you really massage
the statistics, you could probably like come up with the
statistic of like there's a ton of people who after
taking the vaccine die because right, people die, because people die.
And yeah, it's not it's not the world's deadliest vaccine.
It's very safe.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I can't wait for our FK Junior to spring his
theory that that's what happened to JFK. His head just
did that after he took an mRNA, an early mRNA vaccine.
It's uh so they are, on the other hand, going
to focus on what's called good old fashioned wholesale vaccines.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
There's a lot of paper make.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Uh it is like they put like they put me
in charge of the US Department of Health didn't let
me talk to a single expert and insisted I started
drinking again. Like that, because like there's always like a small,
like little nugget of logic that I'm like, I think
that would fool me if I was like, like, whole

(53:52):
cell that's like Whole Foods, which is a healthier version
of Kroger, So it's not marked up yet. So it
takes a whole cell vaccine for five hundred million Alex, Yeah,
because I'm dumb and like the yeah, I'm aware of
the fact that I'm dumb. Rfk Juner is Yeah, no such.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Luck on this guy, No, no, yeah, And whole cell
vaccines have more side effects than mRNA vaccine, so it's like, ah,
but we don't, you know, like, oh, we don't really
know how safe these mRNA vaccines are, but we do
know that whole cell vaccines cause a lot of problems,
which is why we're trying to move away from them,

(54:33):
Like we don't There was like a whooping cough whole
cell vaccine that had a lot of like really nasty
side effects and bad outcomes, and so we stopped focusing
on that because it's.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Not as good. Yeah, but it didn't you know, didn't
have nasty fetus particles in it, that's right. Discussing do
you call them fetas fetus, Yeah, it's poor fetusas fetas
Petus is the plural of like fida, like like Peter's

(55:09):
is the plural of peta PETA's bread Peter's. But I
would imagine that's about right. Also, I did just want
to talk because this is a related story that you
also submitted, Katie. Also in the RFK maha Maha, Maha
maha is how it's pronounced the sound of a dumb

(55:29):
person coming to a conclusion. Maha is that people are
getting E coli from drinking raw milk. Yeah, six kids
under ten years old, children particularly vulnerable do the risk
of kidney failure and do to the risk of having

(55:51):
RFK Junor as the head of doctors in our country.
And I think and his whole thing is like the
only way to like protect our chick children is to
feed them dirt from the ground and grass. Yeah, so
he's he's a big fan of raw milk. At the

(56:12):
at the twenty twenty two Children's Health Defense Conference. Damn,
that sounds sounds like they really want to protect children.
That sounds so good.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
That is a part that that's a taking place in Indianapolis,
by the way, so you can check that out, like you.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Want your buildings built by someone named Bill le Measure exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I don't know. Give that guy the job. He seems like, Oh,
I'm sorry that was an anti vaccine advocacy group he
sat on stage. Since I was here last year, I
only drank raw milk. Now I look look at me.
My eyes are turning yellow and I look weird. It
looks like I've had my personality completely, my humanity removed

(56:55):
from me. I have no light behind my eyes anymore.
Isn't that a sign that things are going well? Uh? Anyways,
so I did not realize it. Because I did not,
I kind of my bullshit detector, and it's a it's
a very finely tuned machine that you started going off
around the raw milk thing based mainly on the people

(57:15):
who were advocating it seeming to be mainly like anti vaxers.
So I didn't like look that much into it. The
thing that they're worried about is pasteurized milk, And Katie,
can you explain what pasteurized milk is?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
It makes the milk caught, make milk caught, and then
they make make.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Without the silly voice, I would have just said it
make milk.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
It sounds it sounds really fancy, right. Pasteurization named after.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
It's like it's like, oh, I'm going to pasteurize this
meat now, and you put it on the grill like
that's it. It's just he the milk up and then
rapidly cooling it. But it's that's it. You just like
kind of it's not even I don't even think it's
quite boiling. It's like under one hundred degrees celsius. So
it's just like heating the milk up.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
We just need to call it freedom clean. This milk
has been freedom cleaned. Yeah. Yeah, so that's the thing
that they object to. They're like, instead, don't clean the milk.
Don't do the thing that, yeah, we know protects things,
and like is the reason that we like is the
logic behind ninety percent of food safety is like temperature

(58:35):
and like, you know, boil it and talk about next.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
They're going to say we should be eating raw meat.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
But they, however, doing that, how did we get here? How? What? Why?
What the fuck is happening anyways, all right. Always great
to have a woman of science, a woman from outside
these United living outside these United States, to come on
as our expert witness, to just check in and be like, hey,

(59:02):
things are going well, and thank you for Based on
what I'm hearing, Yeah, sounds sounds like we're in tiptop shape.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
You're doing great, guys.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Thank you, nice, nice try, and You're welcome back anytime.
But I've got to hustle guarantee you'll make it back
to your country.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, I'm a little I'm slightly concerned.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
So, yeah, I have a podcast on this here network
called Creature Feature or I talk about animals being mean
to wolves, you know, just the animal behavior. It turns out,
you know, sometimes animals is the real people. And I'm
also on Secretly Incredibly Fascinating a podcast with Alex Schmidt,

(59:48):
world's most golden retriever human and he teaches.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Me about kindness of a golden retriever and the mind
of a smart octopus that solves mysteries.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Yes, exactly, it's the Killer Combo. Yeah, he teaches me
about something he every week. He's like let's learn about
this thing like cathod ray tubes. I'm like, Alex, that
sounds boring. Not gonna lie to you, that sounds boring.
And then he blows my mind. It's not boring at all.
It's actually really interesting. And I write for some more news.
There's a bunch of us. Actually it's not just me,

(01:00:26):
a bunch of writers, people working on it. Cody getting
on there, losing his mind frequently talking about Americ politics.
Uh so, yeah, I would check all those things out.
Not really doing social media. It seemed like social media died,
so I kind of stopped bothering with it. You can
check out old stuff I've written on pro bird rights

(01:00:50):
back when it used to be Twitter and I used
to have hope.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
It is one of my favorite Twitter twitters. O Katie,
that's one of my favorite twitters of all times.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Good Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
That's that's a good Twitter. Twitter stock. Why to get
eugenics all of a sudden? Stock? What Twitter? Our bird
rights activist?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
God?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Is there a work of MEI that you've been enjoying? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
So, I mean this was a This is actually a
tweet from like twenty nineteen that I saw pop up
on Reddit of all places who would have guessed, But
it's this this woman meets IM. Sure I'm not pronouncing
that right, but it's meets at the Sierra and she's
responding to a The Straits Times article that says your

(01:01:49):
bowl of rice is hurting the climate too, and she responds,
should I just die?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
That helps?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I really love it because I feel like a lot
of articles are like this minor thing you're doing that
is very human, like you eat rice, you have a
dog that's also hurting the climate. And I get the
sense that there's like it's probably just to get clicks,
that's always what it is. But it's almost like it
feels like there is a concerted si off to depress

(01:02:20):
people so much we stop caring about climate change. It's
like I put on socks and that makes climate change.
What the What the fuck else am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Yeah, it's mainly it's mainly a handful of corporations and billionaires.
We can, I think, just chill out rice while planning
the revolution. That's yeah, you're fine. It's their fault, it
truly is. We should We should start naming hurricanes and
like stadiums and stuff after these fuckers. Honestly, I feel

(01:02:52):
like that that would be a really helpful campaign when
when we when this is all over, the hypothetical that
I like to think about that is never going to
come true, I do. I think that's one of the
first things we should be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Doing so many hurricanes and climate change because there would
be more hurricanes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Famines and stuff like that, and then we like keep
reporting on like famines that then cause like humanitarian crises.
Instead of being like crime wave, we're like, this is
also caused by the CEO of Exxon, you know, or
whatever fucking company Exxon specifically, like the ceo who found

(01:03:32):
out about climate change before everyone else and was like, Okay,
how do we fix this little pr problem.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
When the scientist out of the country Blake.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, where can people find you as their workI media
You've been enjoying at like Wexler on all social media tomorrow.
I did a show in Philly last week and I'm
going to post a little clip. A lot of Zeitgang
were there, and I did a little bit about the
zoy Guard about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
How I and you know, kind of siphoning off for
like sucking away your audience when I'm when I do
live show but I kind of got caught in between
the phrase siphoning off and sucking away. So you can
watch that cliff. And also I'll be the stand up.
All my shows are in my bio on social media.
I'm coming to Wilkes, Barry, Ashville, Arkansas and Boston coming up.

(01:04:22):
And then work of media. I'm gonna go with a
work of art, which was a I sent this. I
texted this to Miles and Jack. It's a painting of
plumpers so a just two large legs coming out of
boxer shorts that Carson, a Zeit Gang guy, painted for
me and gave me to one of my shows. So

(01:04:43):
I'm gonna send that for the show. The little yeah,
the little image. But that person's Instagram is at no
mug no coffee on Instagram. That's Carson who did the
plumpers art. So yeah, that's the work of art that
I've been enjoying. Great artist baffling policy on coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
No mug, no mug, sorry brother, no mug, no coffee
right out of the cup. I have this styrofoam cup
that is specifically made for cotton. Nope, you can read
the sign, all right, work maybea I've been enjoying. Kiras
Sullivan tweeted, being in a bad mood is so humiliating,

(01:05:24):
Like why am I replying in one word answers this
is ruining my brand as a delight to be around.
I feel so naked without my zest for life. I
think that's a fun way to think about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Being in a bad mood is just like, ugh, this sucks.
I look so stupid right now. This isn't me?

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
Is this is?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
This isn't me? But that is how I generally like
to treat like when I'm moody, is to admit it
as soon as possible and start making fun of myself
because otherwise I just keep doubling down on it. Be like, no,
this is just a normal way to behave I'm being normal.
You're being like you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Look, I treat myself like a toddler because I go
through I go through questions are we hung we?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
We are we a little sweepy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Is this? What is this?

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
What this is? Are we sweepy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Sweepy? Uh? You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore,
ol Brian on Blue Sky at jack Obe the Number one.
You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at
Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. Those
are the three places mainly that you can find us.
You can also go to the description of this episode
wherever you're listening to it, and underneath the little show

(01:06:40):
description you will find the footnotes, which is where we
link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode. We got a little source source links. We
also link off to a song that we think you
might enjoy, and Miles being out of the country, we
do like to ask super producer Justin Connor to come in.
Justin tell us what's something he's been listening to that

(01:07:03):
he thinks you guys might enjoy. And Justin, could you
recommend it in a way that's super poetic like you
always do? Uh yeah, sure, I can do my best.

Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
This song was released a few weeks ago and it
already feels like a classic to me. It has a
late nineties early two thousand's R and B vibe. The
instrumental arrangement really amplifies the powerful vocals.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Of this amazing singer.

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
And if you want to feel warm and loved, I
highly suggest putting this one on for a few moments.
This is to love and be Loved by Annie Tracy
and you can find that in the footnotes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Footnotes always poem. I never noticed that before, but I've
always like word.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
It just felt calm listening to Justin's speak, and it
is always very poetic.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Frank Well, yeah, tranquil. Yes. What if pitchfork was written
by somebody with a good heart instead of an ice
cold one, It's just horrid. What if it was written
by somebody who likes music? It's a good pitch anyways.
The Daily Zekei is the production of iHeartRadio. For more
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(01:08:06):
podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's
going to do it for us this morning. We're back
this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will
talk to you all then, Bye bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
The Daily zeit Geist is executive produced by Catherine Long.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Co produced by Bee Wang, co produced by Victor Wright,
co written by j M mcnapp, Edited and engineered by
Justin Connor.

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