September 9, 2025 • 57 mins
In episode 1927, Jack and Miles are joined by author of Fetishized: A Reckoning with Yellow Fever, Feminism and Beauty, Kaila Yu, to discuss… Mike Johnson Walks Back Claim That Trump Helped The FBI Take Down Epstein, Eric Adams To Stay In Mayor’s Race... Until He Loses And Becomes A Saudi Ambassador, Women Are Going To Turkey For Limb Shortening Procedures? And more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I was definitely one of those kids who had who
had import model magazine covers on his school binder and
I drove a Honda Prelude.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
So, oh my god, you are like the quintessential.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, being black and Japanese. I'm like, which do who?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
What? What am I side you? There are two domes?
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm like, I slam my prelude and put it on
rims or like do I just keep this preludeing?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That well, I put a TV inside the prelude. That
was like my one flex inside my hond of prelude.
But it was I had, but it was not connected then.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It was. It was a pathode ray tube TV just
zip tied to the dashboard.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But no, I had like I remember having like two
hundred bucks and going to this spot.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You're like, can I get a screen?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
They're like bruh, I mean we could do something really
cheap and here I'm like, I just need to have
a screen.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I just need I need to be able to get
by on a technicality. The yeah, it's a screen in
my fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But because it blocked all of my air conditioning levers.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Where was it?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it was on the front because they're like, dude,
if you want us to integrate this in your dashboard, like,
that's so much more work.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You have to take the dashboard out and cut it
so like fits.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm like, well, how much just to secure it on?
There's like we could drill it in. I'm like, I'm like, eighteen,
I have nothing, Just please do that. And so I
would have to like reach my hand behind the screen
to turn the fucking AC on the ship.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When I was on a date that was not a flex.
Especially the way you're curling up your head. They're like, oh,
you have a TV. I'm like, yeah, that's a TV
right there. They're like, I know, yeah, you guess right.
Ever seen Pimpy Ride? Can you're in the acion?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm like, yeah, hold on one second. Scratches the back
of my hand because I.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Think it's so hot sometimes it does burst into flames.
Do you mind if I can't get the thing where
it cycles the air to make it colder, just because
it really I'll almost scratch my finger.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four oh five,
episode two of Turnilly's I Know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's a production of My Heart Radio. It's a podcast
where you take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
And it is Tuesday, September ninth, twenty twenty five nine
nine two five nine.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's National Wiener Schnitzel Day. But not Wiener Schnitzel. I
believe this is the actual dish from Austria that gave
way to the terrible Hamburger, chili dog or hot.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Dog chain that we have.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I love that chain.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like, look, Kylo, I know I love it too.
Those chili dogs did a number on me. But every
time I eat another hot dog, I'm like, wait, Wiener
Schnitzle is bad, I think, but.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No, it's like the Taco bell of hot dogs, Like
it's fake, but it's its own dog.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I never even thought about that. That's actually a better
way for me to process that. It's also care bears,
share your care day, Jack. I always think of you
when I see this National ants on a.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Log day, because hey, never you know, my immigrant Marry
ambitions never made ants on a log for me. But
when I first heard of it, I'm like, what the
heck is this okay? And a white person thing exclusively?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I wonder, Yeah, Celery with the peanut butter and then
putting raisins on.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Tops like shit, I feel like, is a real white
person white coated? White coated? Yeah for sure? What about
what about have you tried putting some raisins on this
sandw roast beef, roast, beef and raisin on rye? Anyways,
I was just talking about the origin whether the word
wiener first applied to hot dogs or dog this morning
(04:01):
with my seven year old. Wow. Yeah, and who knew?
Did you get to the bottom of it? I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's one of those things, because isn't it like ween
is like the town that it's from. Uh so it
is in Austria like Vienna, mean, and then whatever?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That makes sense that they saw the dog and we're
like that looks like the food, as opposed to them
seeing the food and being like that looks like a
dog and still choosing to eat it, which is kind
of it would be kind of gross. But they really are
adamant of comparing that specific food to dogs one way
or another, whether it be a wiener calling it a
hot dog. Anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien aka. My
(04:44):
kids can't stop read in Wings of Fire, and they
talk talk talk about their desire to Watch, Watch, Watch
Wings of Fire. Wings of Fire. That one courtesy of
Snarfiel on the Discord, who said, my daughter's ages nine
to eleven, are obsessed. Yeah, this is a book series.
(05:06):
My kids are obsessed with called Wings of Fire, and
they make me check every day to find out if
there is a show coming. The book is basically it
answers the question what if instead of like they're being
humans in Game of Thrones they were It was just
dragons having like political intrigue and like killing each other.
(05:27):
Is my sense. I don't I don't read it. This
is not one that I read to them, but that's
the sense I'm picking up. But I do have an
update that after Netflix scrapped the development, Amazon Prime has
stepped in and just named a show runner. Oh wow,
I've never heard.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Of so don't you kids that though they don't realize
how slow what that means. They're like no, no, yeah, yeah.
Basically they're asking me how many days until Christmas? Like
on a day I have the count Yeah, do you
have a countdown calendar? Not basically a load of countdown
time or yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host mister Miles Grass, Miles Great Gay, The Lord
of Lancasham, The Showgun with No Gun.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Here to just you know, talk about the news. Thanks
for having me. Did I get a chance to really
look through the ak's so I had to go with
the classic I'm here, the classics, The Showgun with No Gun.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Hey, maybe they'll make a streaming series about you on Netflix.
They might, they might. Yeah, yeah, Miles were thrilled to
be joined in our third seat. I have very talented
writer who's written for The La Times, Rolling stuffe, The
New York Times, you know, small small publications like that.
Her new book is fetishized, a reckoning with yellow fever,
(06:41):
feminism and beauty out in the world. Now go buy it.
It's a great Reads, super fascinating. Please welcome Kyler.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's such amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's like I need to think of a better opening
introduction for myself, like a dramatic when you guys have.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You can bring me wherever you're going.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's just like be my hype man behind me.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Exactly. I do try and bring a boom box wherever.
That on your shoulder, yeah exactly. Thank you for joining us.
The book is now? Is that like huge relief? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean I actually got really depressed the next day.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
So there's a thing called postpartum book publication because I
went and looked online and there's a ton of articles
about it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
A lot to build up, and then and then you're
like having a kid, You're just like, oh, this is it. Yeah,
the fun My life.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Hasn't changed overnight. That's pretty much.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean, it's like the same thing I think with
like working on political campaigns too.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That happens to people.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The day after election day because everything is leading up
to one day and then you get on the other
side of it and you're like, what wait, but.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Can you imagine you're on the losing side, because if
you're on the winning side, then you could be depressed.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
But at least we won.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, on the winning side, you're kind of like, oh, man,
I like, I like didn't talk to anyone the last
two months to just get through this election or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The book is really amazing, Kyla. Jack and I are
reading it over the weekend and like.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
To one another or into each other's.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Last taking turns, taking turns because Jack doesn't Jack doesn't
know about the Inland Empire.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
He doesn't know about what I'm from. All over the
East Coast, the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
People in California don't even know about the Inland Empire.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, it was a fascinating learning experience. I want to
learn about the Inland Empire. I know. I had to
explain him what the watching gangs? Who watching gangsters work?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
These are These are all very so cal things.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But that's a so.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Called Asian exclusively. Yeah, yeah, not Asian.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's what I loved about the book.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean, aside from like your very specific experiences, like
you know, just dealing with you know, the sort of
gender expectations and beauty standards that come along with being
not white in America, but like this stuff about just
growing up in southern California, and just the little details
that you put in that were I'm like, it might
not be for everyone, but every single like high schools
(09:10):
like Eduwanda go On, the Heights go On.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It was like hitting my brain.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I was like watching Yes, it was a special.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Time, right, it was.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
All the people from that air are very nostalgic about it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. I was waiting for one of those Hondas for
one hundred thousand dollars made me wish.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
My Yeah, and then like you're working as an import modeling,
like you've had such a just you've touched every experience.
It's a really fascinating book, and I think people should
definitely check it out, especially.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
For the obscure esoteric Asian gang references too.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You know everything about the important scene which no one's
ever heard of either.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah right, Yeah. You learn a lot about parts of
the world you might not be familiar with, and you
also get insightsive analysis of the Little Mermaid so very
much I always appreciate. Yeah. I was just in Copenhage
and looking at that statue. It's really underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Really yeah, well yeah, so many people are like, we're
gonna go see it, and they're like.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's tiny. It's not like some diusy part. Yeah, no,
it nearly is.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's oh yeah yeah, yeah, no, No.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I think American people who are like Little Mermaid statue
and they go, what is this like art piece?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know what I mean? At the shore of the water. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The one thing that also really touched my brain was
too is like sort of I think this happens especially
with kids of color in America, especially in like the
late eighties and nineties, like who do I model my
life after?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
On TV?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like I don't have an example? And like, especially for
me being black in Japanese, like there was certainly no
like black and Eese person for me to look up to.
So I'd be like, so you can do karate man
or you can do basketball gangster and like trying to
figure out like sort of parsing through all those things
and like trying to land on who you are and
(11:01):
what you know, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Like am I who I am?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Or am I this version of like who do I
select from from the available?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like characters on TV?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I was like a combination of like Will Smith. I
was mostly like Will Smith. I think Will Smith was
like cause I was like I wasn't full of myself.
I wasn't a tough guy, so I was never like
trying to put on some like tough kid persona.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Although trying to get into watching No, they.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Wouldn't have me, you know, they should be like you
might you look like maybe you would be an sts
the Filipino gang they were having me watching. But yeah,
like I was just like just all of these things.
It's it's interesting just to see how you know, universal
that kind of experience. It especially for like kids of
immigrants or just you know, like non white kids in
(11:47):
the US. So yeah, just all over, just really really
fun and read aside from just like the very serious
stuff too, which I thought was really poignant.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, just all the ways that you know, the gap
between your per like you existence as a human being
with an inner life, and then the way often white
men will talk to you.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Well, have you heard of the Asian fetish being a
white man?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I have heard that. My wife is Korean actually,
so I've been.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh yeah, just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I've been there for many Where are you from from questions?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh wait, you've witnessed it?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I have a friend who is married to a
Korean woman also, and it's she's the first Asian he's
ever dated. He definitely doesn't have an Asian fetish, and
he's like he gets like little remarks here and there,
like questions like, oh do you have an Asian you know, like, yeah, yeah,
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You probably getting nudged by other pervert dudes who are like, hey,
many and you're like, get it. My fucking wife I'm
in love with since I.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Was like a young man. No, yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, it's I mean I think about too, like I've like,
you know, my friends who are Asian women. They talk
about how like you know, how much you have to
really kind of have your head on a swivelf a
lot of times because dudes will just are purely there
to be like Asian, right, okay in that voice too, yeah,
Or she'll be like I have one homegrow.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like I'll go on to date this.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
If the guy says Asian anything, I'm off this, Like
I'm not even trying to hear it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
My wife literally had a policy of like she didn't
really date people who had dated same women before because
she was just like, yeah, I don't want that to
be your thing. I don't want to be like part
of your thing for Asian women.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I just feels like not special.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah. Yeah, And she had hurt, like she was like
and then sometimes they'll be like, oh, it's just like
being into blondes, and I'm like not really. But it
was funny because as I was like talking to her
about the book, she like all these conversations that she
had had were coming up. So yeah, super fascinating. Yea.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Some men are very weird if the things they feel
very comfortable saying.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, right, yes, yea. They live in a consequence free world.
That's right. All right, Well, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of stories
we're talking about. We're going to talk about Mike Johnson
walking back his claim that Trump is like an undercover
agent for taking down Jeffrey Epstein, like he was going
(14:30):
under cover as a pedophile. I mean, that's why he
might see in those files so much. We'll talk about
Eric Adams, We'll talk about women going to Turkey for
limb shortening procedures, all of that plenty more. But first, Kylo,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, okay, my search my searches are pretty boring. But
the most recent one because I went scuba diving yesterday,
just Catalina boat dives versus shore dives.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean, that's super. Don't don't don't ask me that
I'm so boring. I just went scuba diving yesterday. It
was such an interesting hub.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's very obscure.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I feel yeah cool, though A lot.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Of people like get clusterphobic, which is weird. It makes sense,
but weird though, right because the ocean is vast right right, claustrophobic.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's because you can't get out. I mean I when
I did the it took me a second. I went
scuba diving for the first time a few years ago,
and trusting to breathe at that pace I think was
like the biggest thing I had to really stay like
mindful of because I wanted to kind of like naturally
you kind of want to start hyperventilating or something like
this is how.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I breathe, Like how my breathing when I smoke pot,
am I breathing normal? Sounds? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, that was like super super difficul for me.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But yeah, do you Scooba have a lot?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I love it, but it.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sounds like you you're a lot of people just don't
like it after they experience.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I got into it, like once they get into it,
once I found my zone, then I'm like, this is
dope because there is something really amazing about like being
at the on the floor of the ocean.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Magical. Yeah, I'm meditated. If I would say.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And like I saw a turtle and
I'm like, yeah, man, if this ship wasn't so expensive
to do, maybe i'd do it a lot more.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah. I love snorkeling, but yeah, I just feels because
you're on the surface, like or near the surface, so
that just feels like you're flying. But yeah, that's interesting
of like feeling claustrophobic, like for further down, I guess
because because you can have nowhere to go.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, truly. I mean if that's in your mind, you're like,
I have nowhere to go, quote unquote, it's like you
got the whole ocean and go to.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Just Yeah, I've got a bad mind, so I feel
like it would be I feel like that's exactly where
my mind would go.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, there's a lot to get paranoid about out there,
so I'll yeah, not be paranoid person.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah right, And so shot dive or boat dive.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Better boat dive.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Because there's like a marine park in you know, you
can see these giant black sea basses in California that
are as big as you are.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Ye, so you can look like a normal fish, but
they're the size of a human being. Yeah, fucking crazy.
They the California Science Center too.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh they do.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Okay, yeah, so they're protected so you can see them
in this marine park. So shore dives there's just like
crowds of people, but if you go out on a boat,
it's like just your right, your group.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, so better wow, okay, okay, yeah, I've caught them before.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
They're fucking a giant sea bass.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Not that size, but like a sea bass that I
caught fish. I was used to like bass being a thing,
like a fresh water thing, and then I went like
deep sea fishing and caught sea bass and they're like
they they weren't the size of me, but they're like
massive fish that are fucking so heavy and hard to pull.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Up though, right or did you take it? I'm pretty
sure they're protected.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It was sea bass and it was like late nineties.
So we're doing a lot of things that we weren't
supposed to do back then. Yeah, insider trading.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Insurance, catching an illegal fish yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, yeah for sure. Right, Wow, that's through a back
all right, Who's why am I on trial here?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm so mad at fishing, like even when I go
on those things or they're basically like to do everything
for you for bro never catch anything.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You pick up the rod and it immediately goes off.
Yeah yeah, like just no, no more fishing line. They're like,
what happened. I'm like, we're the fishing line though, He's like,
what the fuck? I just let it go?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Three thousand feet of that ship on there ran.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Well, I don't know if it has to be pop culture,
but I say Taiwan because I'm from there, and like
people are so obsessed with going to Japan, but like
Taiwan's way cheaper, has like comparable food and is like
uh Tokyo wannabe.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So you get the.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Vibes I want to go to Taiwan so bad.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh really, I love because it's so you know. One
of the things I did it for me was I
saw the like a photo of the trains and I
was like, this is exactly like in Japan. I was like,
for a second, I was like, this looks this At
least the train car looked the same. But yeah, the food,
I think because especially right now in like La, I
feel like there's there's a huge boom in like Taiwanese
(19:43):
food being like the new kind of like Asian food
that people are really into so yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, because Japan occupied Taiwan for the period of time
and the Taiwanese were kind of like we like it
versus like South Korean's were like, oh, we hate the
japany Yeah, I mean like the Taiwanese took to it
semi favorably.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm like, usually colonialism, imperialism doesn't go down.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Well with people, but yeah, I mean it's their fucking problem.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, but we hate China.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah yeah, right then, and that's why America loves loves Taiwan,
doesn't the folks, don't they chips?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
We have all the chips, So yeah, you cannot lose Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You better protect Taiwan.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I read about how you know, like there's there
are protocols in place to be like if somebody if
they pull up, the whole chip industry is gone, like
no one's having.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
It, like you to have a hold of all the chips,
you know, the micro whatever chips.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, very very very uh rational.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Way of geopolitics that would happen in this world. What
are something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Paris?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'm like tired of hearing everybody want to go to
Paris like I thought it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Was okay, m hm, did you go recently?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I've been like a couple of times, but yeah, it's
been a couple of years. I would never pay to
go there, Like I'm gonna get like docks for that.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Emily in Paris fans.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean that's not even a real depiction of Earth.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That TV show.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Wait what is your then? What's your favorite place to
go to?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Oh, but that's like the ultimate diving destination.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's why, Oh you are really out here diving.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I really really yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Wow Okay, yeah, I was like, yes, the beaches, You're
like no, the marine life and I'm like, oh yeah,
yeah that too. That too. The luxury yea and the
scuba diving in Paris not quite as good.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I've heard, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Notes for parents, just like one note, what does parents
need to work on? Fix everything up?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I just think it's like a city, Like why are
people glamorizing this city? Okay, there's like some cool architecture.
There's some cool architecture in London, and like I'm super
not oppressed impressed with London either. The French could be
nicer to Americans because we're faking them. We're fake nice
to them when they come here.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah. Right. I've always had the experience that I think,
I think I'm girding myself for like being just treated
like absolute dogshit, and then everyone's like, okay, like they're
not so mean, maybe because I'm so obsequious, just like
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they're just like they're uncomfortable and want to get me
out of there as soon as possible. So I'm just like,
I don't know, man, just do it be nice to
this person?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So yeahs are as advertised great croissants. Be nicer to
me when I try and talk my terrible version of French.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I think if you at least try to speak French,
they like the effort, because I think that a lot
of Americans don't even bother.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
They're like speaking to them in English.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Like most of my friends will go and they're like,
I tried speaking and they go, I speak English and
they're like okay. They're like they'll be like, man, thank
you for trying. But now we can do this transition. Yeah,
this is for you more than it is for me.
Let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk
about the news.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, and big,
big news at the end of last week that I
don't know why we weren't treating with more reverence. I mean,
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this is huge. Obviously, Donald Trump has been wanting to
get this Epstein story behind him, and then at the
end of last week, Mike Johnson was the speaker, Speaker
of the dang House. Yes, yeah, he is speaker Speaker
of the dang House. Come out, say Trump. The only
reason he's in all those pictures and constantly hanging out
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with Jeffrey Epstein was he secretly undercovered dude. Wait, like
I didn't want to say anything because it might blow
up his spot, but yeah, man, was he was secretly
an FBI in format this quote who helped take down
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'll play this quote because it's the first of all.
The speed at which Mike Johnson is talking should already
be concerning because he is. Of course, he thinks, because again,
the reason he gets to is because someone says like
Donald Trump keeps calling this whole thing a hoax, and
Mike Johnson has been trying to walk down and he's like,
of course, course the crimes are.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Not a hoax.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's the attention that people are giving. It's like it's
a really hard needle for him to thread. H But
this is him speaking on that and yes, which he
does basically let everyone know that Trump is a FED informant.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But Trump called a hoax yesterday.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
What Trump is referring to is the hoax that the
Democrats are using to try to attack him. He has
never said or suggested during Blood. I've talked to him
about this many times, many times he is it's been misrepresented.
He's not saying that what Epstein did as a hoax.
It's a terrible, unspeakable evil. He believes that himself. When
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he first heard the rum where he kicked him out
of mary Lago, he was an FBI informant to try
to take this stuff down.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
What oh, I'm sorry he kicked him out of mar Laga.
He's trying to He's the FBI informant. Take the stuff
just one more time.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Unspeakable evil. He believes that himself. When he first heard
the room where kicked him out of mari Lango, he
was an FBI informant to try to take this this
stuff down. The President knows and has great sympathy for
the women.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean, what is he really said that he's an
FBI informants trying to take this take this thing down? Man,
What a terrible, terrible bit of improv from Mike Johnson
there that only if he didn't even say that, there
wouldn't be headlines. But the fact that he insisted that
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he's an FBI informant says a few things. I think
I've seen enough TV shows to know that when you're
an informant, it's usually because you're inside the criminal organization
and then you get caught up in some shit and then.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
The FEDS go all right, here's a deal. You're gonna
turn informant, and.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, you're gonna turn on your boy. Yeah you're gonna
flip on him. That's it's not snitches don't get stitches
because they are whistleblowers at a like at a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
They're talking just like because you was down with the
whole thing. How dare you?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
A very very odd defense, because I think they're still
trying there. I think they have to figure out a
way how they explain why Trump is in these documents,
why he's named so I guess.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
All the fuck over them. Yeah, all over the place.
So obviously, I mean he he's a Speaker of the House.
You have to assume this was cleared, like this is
a new strategy right where like the Trump administration is
rolling it out, except not at all that Like they
immediately were like whoa, no, Actually they tried to walk
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it back. They claimed that what he meant was that
Trump kicked Epstein out of mar A Lago, right, that
was the thing he said before, before he said he
was an FBI informant.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
He's an FBI informant.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
What he meant was not that part. You didn't Let's
just pretend you didn't hear the part where he said
he's FBI informant.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I again, I don't know why I where he thought
this was good. I don't know if maybe they did.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They're like, maybe try that, just see if people laugh.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
At you if you say that immediately and the fact
that everyone on the internet was like, what the fuck
is that that? Now, it's like, no, no, no, that's
not what I meant at all when I literally used
the words he was an FBI informant.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Trying to take this whole thing down. Okay, well, I
think back to the drawing board for them. Yeah, they
just have that difficulty of like he keeps doing things
that would suggest that he's terrible heavily implicated in this
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh man, that's like that would be so funny. It's
like you get caught with like cigarettes or something in
high school or Mom's like, what.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are these cigarettes? You're like, Mom, I'm more informed, Fuck you,
look around you to make the principal was like, go
hang out with these kids and figure out who's smoking
cigarettes and then take this thing down from the inside.
That's what I was trying to do, mother.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
But does anyone actually believe him? Like everybody knows he
was heavily like best friend him, right.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I think it's like, so it's in such a state
where they're desperate for anything, you know that they're they're
truly just like say it because next week they'll just
add it to the list of the crazy things we've
said that we're trying to just sort of like worm
our way out of this, which is just really absurd
at this point because again, all of his behaviors indicate
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someone who is terribly implicated or for whatever reason, expending
a lot of energy to protect someone. So either way,
it's not a great look. This is the q theory
of the case because for entire first administration, QAnon was like,
what could possibly explain that he's the president who we
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all think is like there to take down a cabal
of you know, democratic perverts, and he's not doing it.
And so the theory was that he is like working
undercover as the president to take like you know, spin
this web to like catch everybody, and like one day
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he was just gonna like everybody's gonna wake up and
he was gonna have switch you know, Hillary Clinton, the
Clinton's and Obama like you know, up against a wall,
you know, because he's actually just been gathering evidence. The
fact that he hasn't leaned like this does make me
think if you had just leaned into that and been like, sorry, guys,
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I can't can't let you know, classify like the like
the predator from True Lies, the Bill uh oh, Bill
Paxson pasting character who's just like, sorry, Dave, this is
top secret information.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You're just gonna have to trust me and have sex
with me. No, you're you're a lying used car salesman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's kind of the vibe that I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Honestly, he may at this point because we've may go
with it. We've seen everything, and it's I don't know.
I mean like that's like the one thing that the
media should keep putting constant attention on, aside from all
the fascistic nonsense he's doing, like sort of like implying
that he was gonna napalm Chicago maybe with that Apocalypse
(31:14):
Now reference. I'm not sure what part of the Apocalypse
Now reference he was trying to get with that truth.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So again, this was being blown out of this is
being blown out of context. Okay, what the President meant
was obviously he cared very much about Chicago and he's
just a fan of that movie.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
He's not declaring war on a US city. He just
used that they're gonna find out what war is in
ament of war a roundabout kind of way. So yeah, yeah,
Mike Johnson, I would say, work on the improv skills
a bit, but you might as well just you know,
transparency is really the best thing at this point rather
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than just kind of continuing to just string like string
everybody along.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
But I think they just don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I think they know, like they're probably looking at like Okay,
so it's got if we get to the point where
we release it, we have to explain why Donald Trump's
name is there, or why it's redacted or why it's implied.
So we need a way to explain that. And that's I.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Think we're seeing them audition a bunch of the soft
launch of that theory that they're gonna go Withsly.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's Donnie Brasco.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Dude, Donnie Trump is Donnie Brasco. I guess that's right.
But yeah, they they him. Yeah, it wasn't like because
he was already best friends with Jeffrey Epstein. They recruited
him and asked him to uh, befriend this guy to
make sure.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
White House, the White House may be calling you soon.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I'm just saying I couldn't be more obvious.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, and he was undercover, so he had to partake
of all the women.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Basically, that's where it's gonna get weird.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, I don't know, have you ever seen a movie
with like an undercover agent where they like cut the
drugs and they're like, do that line. He had to. Yeah,
he had to do what he had to do. You know.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's they're probably gonna say some ship like he's a
method actor. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like this wasn't even
an acting role. He's an He's an FBI method actor,
informant dude sent from heaven. Okay, that's an angel, thank you. Yeah,
And a lot of people were touched by an angel. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Great show, great show, one of the best. Uh real quick.
The Trump administration is terrified of Zorimumdani and they are
appear to be trying to conspire with Eric Adams to
get him out of the race so that Cuomo can
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consolidate the anti Zorin vote. And so he was reportedly
offered the job to be ambassador to Saudi Arabia, the
just the most corrupt thing, it like seeming job. It
sounds like.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
An insult to say, ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Yeah, it's
like it's like, what are you the ambassador to Saudi
Arabia and you're like the most corrupt, vile person.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Whose job is just like being open to corruption. All right,
there we go, that's that's the gig for him. And
then after this news spread, Eric Adams held a press
conference and insisted that he's staying in the mayor's race.
Wouldn't comment on the ambassador job though.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I don't do you think this sitting mayor like
that's the thing. I don't know where his ego's at,
Like does he really drop out because he's like whatever,
I'm protected now I'll be the ambassador to Saudi Arabia
or is he really going to be.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Like no, I really got a shot at this. I
could be then I could be the man New York
one more time.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But it sounds like everybody is probably like trying to
induce him dropping out of the race so everyone can
get behind, which god, I feel like probably does Eric Adam.
I wonder if Eric Adam is he pulling better.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think so. I think he's pulling worse than Cuomo.
But he has like he's been dropping like anti Cuomo
memes all over social media and stuff, so like they
I'm assuming they're gonna ask him to drop out and
endorse Yomo, which will be interesting. I mean, it would
almost suggest that he's a bit of a live bit
of two faced, if you know what I'm saying, a hypocrite,
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which I don't think people are ready to learn about
Eric Adams thing with New York.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
For me, it's too much of a city when I
think of it. It's such a city when I visit it,
not really interested in it at all.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Kind of reminds me of Paris.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It's like, yeah, I'd rather be scuba diving in the Hudson.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
The East River. I yet to do the East River.
I hear great things, did you imagine?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, the one probably amongst other corpses. Probably they'll be like,
oh you went down there, Like, yeah, the people.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Who have ever scuba dived in there. We're looking for
corpses part of a team. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's
take one more break. We'll be right back, and we're back.
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We're back. And so apparently Turkey you know hot spot
for men getting new hairlines? Oh yeah, do they do
the leg lengthening surgeries. I didn't do it all. They
do it all, just one stop shop. But now there's
a new one where people are going to get their
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limbs shortened.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
In Yeah, specifically women. So we've seen over the last
few years like a surge in men that have traveled
abroad to get like the extendo piece put on your
femur so you can finally be you know, however tall
you need to be to feel good about yourself.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I get it. We live in enough terrible society.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
But that same toxicity seems to be also affecting women,
because there are more and more reports of people going
to Turkey now to again like take down their hype
a few inches. Well really yeah, where again it's the
same terrible procedure where like your femur or tibia is
like like they take bone off of your most significant
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bone in your body and then secure it with.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
A metal rod.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And you know, one woman reportly went from one hundred
like five to seven and three quarters almost five eight
to five six.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Why isn't that Why would you want to be shorter
than five seven?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I think trying to be an astronaut is in this
Like there's there's a Daily Mail article and a Vice
article about it, and like the Daily Mail one is
kind of more like, you know, because some women it's
a little hard out there being a tall woman, and they're.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Saying, I mean, I know that's five seven, Like it's
five five six average.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, I had to guess. If I had to guess,
I think they're in a relationship and the man is
too scared to get the leg lengthening and so he's like,
the only other option here. I need I need you
to bring it down by a couple of inches so
that I don't look that same height as yet.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That is the most man ship to do. It's like,
I'm afraid I don't want to get a fear of surgery.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I'm not gonna get that to me. You you do
the thing. I don't want it. I don't want leg lengthening.
You should be shorter. You're a freakish five seven and
three quarters. What are we fucking talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
They do have like there's the like some literature like
advertisements where the clinics that are doing the surgeries have
like a whole package where you can.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Go for this procedure.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So like like this, this makes sense with like medical tourism,
where it's like you go and while you're recovering, like
the hotels are deeper, there's entertainment at all, and it
all ends up being cheaper than just buying asthma medication.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
In the US.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Still doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
If you're going to get a leg lengthening or shortening,
wouldn't you want to add like five inches.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Not one?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
In I think this is where like there. I think
in the early days they're probably dialing in how much
they can add before the recovery is just.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Completely inches not worth anything like yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
No no, but they're like they're dudes, right, Like I
went from five to six to five nine, Like I seen,
there's kind of one inch.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, but then the recovery is like six months in
bed right awful.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, you are your wheelchair bound. Like the physical therapy
to like retrain your body's new legs like leg length,
it's it's really fucked up. And then there's all kinds
of risks involved, like nerve damage, bone infections, like uh,
fractures that don't see properly fu. Yeah, and also like
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the rods that reinforce your height in either direction, they
have like a specific like weight load, like a limit
that they can carry, so like you have to like weight,
like you have to be mindful of all these things.
Like it's it's not just as simple as like I
went in I had a whole like arcane surgery where
my legs were broken and like length lengthened. But I
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also now have to be mindful of the load capacity
of these metal rods I've enforced my life.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
But beyond that though, like beyond okay, So you stand
up and try to walk after where after you're done
healing and you walk like Vincentinofrio and then in black.
You have a weight limit, like like an airplane, where
like if you if you overpack a bag by like
ten pounds, your legs like break starting to try and
pick them up.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
They say to start even to be considered, you have
to weigh under one hundred and sixty five pounds.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Okay, But it's not a weight limit that you can
hold like, it's a weight limit of like I mean,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Like, oh, oh, like on top of the stress you're
putting on your body right right, you try to pick
up something that's too heavy, is there a chance that
it's just like oh damn, you just got three inches shorter.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, like you to coming in pain. You go to
Costco and.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You got to bring in a bunch of cans and shit,
they're like I got all the seltzers and they're like,
oh god, no, it's it's besides those risks, Like what
are the downsides? I don't even get, Like what's everybody
complaining about?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
This sounds awesome? I'm so good. Oh it sounds horrific.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Like it's interesting too, because like Kylie, you talk about
in your book too, about like metaphorically shrinking ourselves, right,
making ourselves smaller, like to sort of conform to the
side of things like this is now we're talking to
the literal level of like I'm going to become smaller
through surgery. Now it's really wild, wild, wild era we're in.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I really want to know the motivation against for the women.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Because if you're like a six three woman, then I
can see, oh, it's difficult to find, you know, my
selection if you're looking for taller guys. Yeah, but if
you're five to seven, you still have like tons of options.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I mean also, like you could just go to another
country where like that is the average height. I was
like in Scandinavia and I was with her majesty, my wife.
She's she's sure, she's like five to one, and we
were laughing. We're like, I don't haven't seen a single
lady that's his smallness, you know, like the ones that
are are not from are not Scandinavian. Everybody was walking
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like five eight and shit, I was like, god damn,
which makes sense. I mean, like, hey, just.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Go maybe maybe we're in the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
But yeah, this is like I mean, they talk about
sort of like the politics of height in dating, but
that's still I don't know, like it's still.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'm still not total. Also, so your legs are gonna
be like way shorter, but then like have a great
wings You're gonna look like an NBA player kind of
like with like big wingspan and like short, you know,
like bigger wingspan than the rest of your body. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
There's also like in the like vice article, they just
like left this one sort of thing hanging there, like
was really interesting, just said despite the absurdity, it says
height has been directly connected to health, and you're like,
researchers have linked tall stature of women to conditions like
increased cancer risk. And I'm like, well, like that's don't
just put that in there.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
What are you saying? And I don't think it's like
the air up there. I think it's probably like things
having to do with like the amount of work that
your body's having to do. I don't think you can
just hack that by cutting two inches off your legs.
You're five to nine, you know what I mean, Like
this is it's so weird. Like even the articles that
are discussing this are very like they don't even know
(43:41):
what their take is on this, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
There's also like health risks, and they linked to a
study that just said published research that showed people seem
to have a higher risk of cancer seem.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
To have it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
That is not that doesn't feel like unequivocal, like a
scientific breakthrough that you're gonna report on.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
We need one of those MTV documentaries is like where
they used to have in the early aughts where it
was like, you know, I want to look exactly like
Brad Pitt. Yeah, like you just like really get to
know them, and like that was called all out there.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
It was called True Life. I Want a Famous Face
was the episode. I remember that very very.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Like I binge that series.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, all of those two. I want really short thighs.
The rest of my body? Is that the which which
leg bone is it? It's the bone between your knee
and your hip, yeah, femur Yeah, yeah, that's feels weird.
Be disproportionately shorter than the rest of your body's shorter legs,
so that's not gonna look good.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I think this is just like that's what's like interesting too,
because you look at sort of the the amount of
people that it, like they said it went from like
a couple in twenty twenty three to more in twenty
twenty four and even more in twenty twenty five, so
like it was truly like only like two people had
done it at this one clinic and really but then
when you like look at Reddit, like there are people
talking abou of like, oh that that does seem interesting,
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like people considering it, and you're like, oh, well, look
we get it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, I'm sure there are people who yeah, like you said,
like who it is like really a pain in the
ass for them to be taller. But man, that that
fucking sounds brutal for this to be this losion.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
But I think this is kind I think it sort
of speaks to how we have these like sort of
messages reinforced to us societally where you're like, well, like,
I certainly can't be a tall queen out here in
these streets. You know, kings.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
That's your one thing. Yeah that you're just like fuck that,
You're like and like.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Think of the writ I mean, look at what Lebron
James did to his scalp. You know what I mean,
Lebron James Harolines still doesn't look good no matter how
many times you went to Turkey. And I get it
because you know, having hair is like a sign of
virility and.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, and he definitely needs like subtle signs of virility
when he's like the greatest athlete we've ever seen. Know,
that's like my definition, Like what the fuck? Man? You
don't raise them all?
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan was like, fuck that, bro, I'm
playing basketball though.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
The hair, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I don't know if the hair plug technology was there.
Do you think Michael Jordan would have got hair plugs?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I don't know. Probably could have, but did he ever?
Did he ever have hair? And like it was fading.
I feel like it felt like it was it was
just came off.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I think I think the second he probably felt it wavering,
He's like, no, no, no, fuck that I cannot I'm
Michael Jordan and maybe putilized toxicity where he.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Was like, don't let them see you with the receding hair. Ever,
the only image I can picture of him with hair.
He has a very strong hairline, you know, Yeah, like Jordan.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
So like hair without hair always to me, I don't
remember ever seeing him with hair like the first.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Two years of his career hair and then he went
completely bald.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, no, there's there's a there's a couplet eight nine,
nineteen eighty nine. He looks like Joe Peshy in Home
Alone when he had that blowtorch at the top of
his beanie.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh you know, yeah, when he lets it grow out
a little bit, it's definitely baldness. All right, Michael, All right, Mike,
thanks for standing with King. Shout out the bald kings
out there. You know what I mean. Don't have to
go to Turkey. Just just love yourself, radical cell of yourself,
and be one of the best athletes in the history
of sport.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I need Jack, That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I need these basketball lessons. I can accept my receiving hairline. Kyla,
such a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist. Where
can people find you? Follow you, find your book all
that good stuff?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, just under my name.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
My name's Kyla you so you can find me on
all platforms, and the book is in all bookstores, but
I always recommend your local independent bookstore.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, it's called fetishized fetish.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Is reckoning with yellow fever, feminism and beauty. Bye k
I l A and then Yu. Everybody should go check
it out. Is there a work of media that you've
been enjoying besides your own book?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
That's all I read and watch it.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Over and over and over again. I'm not a fan
of anything else. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
No, I've been watching the Amanda Knox on Hulu and
that's been really fascinating.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Have you guys followed that at all?
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I mean initially when the case came, But I'm not, like,
I know, I know I have friends that are in
the Knox averse fully like waiting for this to come out,
and I forgot that there are people who really follow
the Amanda Knox stuff closely. But no, I mean, like,
aren't they like multiple Amanda Knox things out right now?
Speaker 4 (48:34):
So many they're like, but this one's like a reenact,
like a dramaticize and I think she wrote it, or
she was a producer and co wrote.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It or something.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
But yeah, obviously it's from her point of view, but
it sounds like they like forced you know, they did
the forced coerced confession thing. I think it's easy to
do on a nineteen year old girl when there's like
a bunch of men yelling at you in Italian.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, fully, fully. The documentary contains one of the wildest
comedic characters I've ever encountered. There's a the detective who's
like one of the main detectives on the case in Italy,
is like always smoking a pipe and he like makes
these like broad declarations. He's like, uh, you can tell
(49:23):
that a woman committed this crime because it was covered
up with like a blanket, and women will be ashamed
of the crime that they and like, but his whole
energy is just so unbelievable, just like so full of
so obliviously full of shit that like you can't believe
that this is a real person. Oh wow, Well I
(49:45):
highly recommend I'll just miss it.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
In the pile of documentaries that because every streamer ends
up putting out a documentary about the same thing, I
think there is one. It's like I was just talking
about that earlier, like in an earlier episode about it's like, well,
what's our version of the thing everyone's doing right now?
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Our version of the fire festival because everyone had to
cover it.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, I remember that the mock Knox thing happened at
the fire Fest. I'm saying, huh uh, great miles, where
can people find you as their workimedia? You've been enjoying.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Great find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can
catch me on four twenty. We're back this week talking
about ninety Day Fiance, my favorite trash reality shows. That's
my version of scuba diving, Kayla, where I should.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Have included that in my book.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, ninety Day Fiance is very lots of white men
searching first.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Oh god, yes, some all time classics, and those guys
are so fucking bad, like I'm not even bad at
They have no self awareness around it, and they always
say the same as like.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
Well, you know, dating women in the UK is a
bit difficult, and I felt look in the Philippines, the
women are just nicer than more understand, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Oh my god, you're looking for a nurse. Anyway, that's
where you can find me. What else was I gonna say?
Work of media I've been joining. I was reading Kyle's
book over the weekend. Really suggests everyone to check out
Kyla's book. And also I've been watching like this summer
(51:21):
I turned pretty or the summer I turned hot.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
What is it this summer? I turned pretty Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, teenager.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's a white thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
So my partner, her majesty, is fourteen years old. I'm
not clear to you, Kyla. Even though I was dropping
references to Asian gangs in their late nineties early two thousands,
I'm actually fourteen years old.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
I was ud of history. I love history.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, ap, you know remember them?
Speaker 1 (51:47):
So there's uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I was just like it was one of these things
where she's watching She's like, you should watch this movie,
and like, I.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Don't know anything. I don't relate to these fucking characters
at all. She's like, don't you know someone who got
hot one summer? And I'm like, I guess, but.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
That's not That's not how I that's not how I
get interested in something, because I mean to like, I
don't like Jurassic Park because I knew someone who was
toying with DNA and created a dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I'm like things that peopled to me not.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
But then I found myself through osmosts being like what
whoa what's the what are they saying now?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Is she is she not going to marry him? Oh?
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
And she's like I thought you weren't watching Wait so good.
It's it's like a it's very it's a it's like
it's team soap opera, you know what I mean. So
it's not like it's not hard hitting, but it's like
it hits these tropes of your childhood that sure a
lot of people get into. As Victor says, it's very messy.
(52:42):
People are taken by it. Yeah yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Me, superducer. Victor said, this is exactly how I got
roped into the show.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Oh really, yeah, that's what happens. See and and then
I end up knowing so much about the show. I'm like, well,
you know, I don't. I'm like, actually, Conrad isn't that
cute to me? I think Jeremiah is cute than Conrad.
And she's like, you like Jeremiah.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
That's These are the conversations we're screaming as we try
and put our child to sleep right now the summer.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Pretty yeah show, my favorite show, my favorite show, and
I contain multitudes, Kyla.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
You know I'm in here driving my Honda Prelude with
the bolted on TV screen, tears in my eyes watching.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Watching it on your bolted and workimedia. I've been enjoying coach.
Finnstock dot bsky dot social tweeted a picture of wolf
Blitzer next to this is actually from last season, but
celebrating a Buffalo Bill's win with his like giving it
a thumbs up with the bill's hat in front of
(53:43):
a TV that is in like one of those stained
wood like media cabinets. And he said, wolf Blitzerer celebrating
a Bill's win in a room that hasn't been updated
since the towers fell. First of all, it's almost nine eleven.
Never forget, and a modern Venus responded, this proves Jack
O'Brien's theory about fame pausing your tech adoption, which, if
(54:07):
you think about it, wolf Blitzer peak the peak of
his career as every year he's like ninety twenty years ago,
I was reporting the nine to eleven for CNN. So yeah,
his his media cabinet still has a DVD player in it,
still appears to have a laser disc player, laser Dick player,
(54:30):
lasers Beta, Matt TiVo. Yeah, still still I forgot.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I did have a thing, a piece of media that
I was like, I've just it was it was stuck
in my brain. Also, Victor just said I'm problematic. If
I'm team Jeremiah, I say Jeremiah's cuter. Okay, I think
Conrad looks like a rejected version of a Leonardo DiCaprio
wax doll.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
For those that know, they know. This was the thing
that Ben Collins reposted on Blue Sky. It's a Little
League umpire who unfortunately just gets hit in the crotch
three times during one game.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
Incredible run of bad luck.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
It's it feels like the it feels like you're watching
like a nineties comedy, like that was the first one.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Here's another foul tip. Oh poor up tied the kids
literally game.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
The last one folds him up to the ground. Here
comes oh Kyla, you're calling it?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Oh my, I mean get a full Homer Simpson doll.
Yeah yeah, yeah that man.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
It shout out to people who in ab volunteering for
kids sports to try to get my time and then
you're out.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Here just getting wrecked. Sorry all right. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian on Blue Sky,
Jack ob the number one. You can find us on
Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeigeist. We're at the
Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to the description
of the episode wherever you're listening to it, and there
at the bottom you will find the footnote note, which
(56:13):
is where we link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode. We also link off to
a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles, is
there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (56:23):
So I was watching a YouTube clip where one of
my favorite producers, Fred Again, was making a track with
this other producer named black Boy Max. And in this
video he was like kind of mashing up a Dochi
vocal sample over this.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Beat and people were like, oh this he was.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
It wasn't even as track he was releasing, but it
was so cool and was like, you gotta put this out,
You gotta put this out. That song came out on
an album that Fred Again did with Skepta, and that
track is called Victory Lap. And if you're a Dochi fan,
he samples like her verse from Swamp Bitches with Rico Nasty.
But anyway, this is Victory Lap Fred Again and skept
(57:00):
a black Boy Max check get out and.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Link off to it of the footnotes. The Daily ZEI
Guy is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,
visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen
to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for
us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you
what is trending and we will talk to yell then
bye bye.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long,
co produced by Bee Wang.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by j m mcnapp,
edited and engineered by Justin Conner,
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I was definitely one of those kids who had who
had import model magazine covers on his school binder and
I drove a Honda Prelude.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
So, oh my god, you are like the quintessential.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, being black and Japanese. I'm like, which do who?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
What? What am I side you? There are two domes?
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm like, I slam my prelude and put it on
rims or like do I just keep this preludeing?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That well, I put a TV inside the prelude. That
was like my one flex inside my hond of prelude.
But it was I had, but it was not connected then.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It was. It was a pathode ray tube TV just
zip tied to the dashboard.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But no, I had like I remember having like two
hundred bucks and going to this spot.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You're like, can I get a screen?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
They're like bruh, I mean we could do something really
cheap and here I'm like, I just need to have
a screen.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I just need I need to be able to get
by on a technicality. The yeah, it's a screen in
my fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But because it blocked all of my air conditioning levers.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Where was it?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it was on the front because they're like, dude,
if you want us to integrate this in your dashboard, like,
that's so much more work.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You have to take the dashboard out and cut it
so like fits.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm like, well, how much just to secure it on?
There's like we could drill it in. I'm like, I'm like, eighteen,
I have nothing, Just please do that. And so I
would have to like reach my hand behind the screen
to turn the fucking AC on the ship.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When I was on a date that was not a flex.
Especially the way you're curling up your head. They're like, oh,
you have a TV. I'm like, yeah, that's a TV
right there. They're like, I know, yeah, you guess right.
Ever seen Pimpy Ride? Can you're in the acion?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm like, yeah, hold on one second. Scratches the back
of my hand because I.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Think it's so hot sometimes it does burst into flames.
Do you mind if I can't get the thing where
it cycles the air to make it colder, just because
it really I'll almost scratch my finger.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four oh five,
episode two of Turnilly's I Know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's a production of My Heart Radio. It's a podcast
where you take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
And it is Tuesday, September ninth, twenty twenty five nine
nine two five nine.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's National Wiener Schnitzel Day. But not Wiener Schnitzel. I
believe this is the actual dish from Austria that gave
way to the terrible Hamburger, chili dog or hot.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Dog chain that we have.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I love that chain.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like, look, Kylo, I know I love it too.
Those chili dogs did a number on me. But every
time I eat another hot dog, I'm like, wait, Wiener
Schnitzle is bad, I think, but.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No, it's like the Taco bell of hot dogs, Like
it's fake, but it's its own dog.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I never even thought about that. That's actually a better
way for me to process that. It's also care bears,
share your care day, Jack. I always think of you
when I see this National ants on a.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Log day, because hey, never you know, my immigrant Marry
ambitions never made ants on a log for me. But
when I first heard of it, I'm like, what the
heck is this okay? And a white person thing exclusively?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I wonder, Yeah, Celery with the peanut butter and then
putting raisins on.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Tops like shit, I feel like, is a real white
person white coated? White coated? Yeah for sure? What about
what about have you tried putting some raisins on this
sandw roast beef, roast, beef and raisin on rye? Anyways,
I was just talking about the origin whether the word
wiener first applied to hot dogs or dog this morning
(04:01):
with my seven year old. Wow. Yeah, and who knew?
Did you get to the bottom of it? I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's one of those things, because isn't it like ween
is like the town that it's from. Uh so it
is in Austria like Vienna, mean, and then whatever?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That makes sense that they saw the dog and we're
like that looks like the food, as opposed to them
seeing the food and being like that looks like a
dog and still choosing to eat it, which is kind
of it would be kind of gross. But they really are
adamant of comparing that specific food to dogs one way
or another, whether it be a wiener calling it a
hot dog. Anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien aka. My
(04:44):
kids can't stop read in Wings of Fire, and they
talk talk talk about their desire to Watch, Watch, Watch
Wings of Fire. Wings of Fire. That one courtesy of
Snarfiel on the Discord, who said, my daughter's ages nine
to eleven, are obsessed. Yeah, this is a book series.
(05:06):
My kids are obsessed with called Wings of Fire, and
they make me check every day to find out if
there is a show coming. The book is basically it
answers the question what if instead of like they're being
humans in Game of Thrones they were It was just
dragons having like political intrigue and like killing each other.
(05:27):
Is my sense. I don't I don't read it. This
is not one that I read to them, but that's
the sense I'm picking up. But I do have an
update that after Netflix scrapped the development, Amazon Prime has
stepped in and just named a show runner. Oh wow,
I've never heard.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Of so don't you kids that though they don't realize
how slow what that means. They're like no, no, yeah, yeah.
Basically they're asking me how many days until Christmas? Like
on a day I have the count Yeah, do you
have a countdown calendar? Not basically a load of countdown
time or yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host mister Miles Grass, Miles Great Gay, The Lord
of Lancasham, The Showgun with No Gun.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Here to just you know, talk about the news. Thanks
for having me. Did I get a chance to really
look through the ak's so I had to go with
the classic I'm here, the classics, The Showgun with No Gun.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Hey, maybe they'll make a streaming series about you on Netflix.
They might, they might. Yeah, yeah, Miles were thrilled to
be joined in our third seat. I have very talented
writer who's written for The La Times, Rolling stuffe, The
New York Times, you know, small small publications like that.
Her new book is fetishized, a reckoning with yellow fever,
(06:41):
feminism and beauty out in the world. Now go buy it.
It's a great Reads, super fascinating. Please welcome Kyler.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's such amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's like I need to think of a better opening
introduction for myself, like a dramatic when you guys have.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You can bring me wherever you're going.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's just like be my hype man behind me.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Exactly. I do try and bring a boom box wherever.
That on your shoulder, yeah exactly. Thank you for joining us.
The book is now? Is that like huge relief? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean I actually got really depressed the next day.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
So there's a thing called postpartum book publication because I
went and looked online and there's a ton of articles
about it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
A lot to build up, and then and then you're
like having a kid, You're just like, oh, this is it. Yeah,
the fun My life.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Hasn't changed overnight. That's pretty much.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean, it's like the same thing I think with
like working on political campaigns too.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That happens to people.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The day after election day because everything is leading up
to one day and then you get on the other
side of it and you're like, what wait, but.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Can you imagine you're on the losing side, because if
you're on the winning side, then you could be depressed.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
But at least we won.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, on the winning side, you're kind of like, oh, man,
I like, I like didn't talk to anyone the last
two months to just get through this election or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The book is really amazing, Kyla. Jack and I are
reading it over the weekend and like.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
To one another or into each other's.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Last taking turns, taking turns because Jack doesn't Jack doesn't
know about the Inland Empire.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
He doesn't know about what I'm from. All over the
East Coast, the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
People in California don't even know about the Inland Empire.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, it was a fascinating learning experience. I want to
learn about the Inland Empire. I know. I had to
explain him what the watching gangs? Who watching gangsters work?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
These are These are all very so cal things.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But that's a so.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Called Asian exclusively. Yeah, yeah, not Asian.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's what I loved about the book.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean, aside from like your very specific experiences, like
you know, just dealing with you know, the sort of
gender expectations and beauty standards that come along with being
not white in America, but like this stuff about just
growing up in southern California, and just the little details
that you put in that were I'm like, it might
not be for everyone, but every single like high schools
(09:10):
like Eduwanda go On, the Heights go On.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It was like hitting my brain.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I was like watching Yes, it was a special.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Time, right, it was.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
All the people from that air are very nostalgic about it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. I was waiting for one of those Hondas for
one hundred thousand dollars made me wish.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
My Yeah, and then like you're working as an import modeling,
like you've had such a just you've touched every experience.
It's a really fascinating book, and I think people should
definitely check it out, especially.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
For the obscure esoteric Asian gang references too.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You know everything about the important scene which no one's
ever heard of either.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah right, Yeah. You learn a lot about parts of
the world you might not be familiar with, and you
also get insightsive analysis of the Little Mermaid so very
much I always appreciate. Yeah. I was just in Copenhage
and looking at that statue. It's really underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Really yeah, well yeah, so many people are like, we're
gonna go see it, and they're like.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's tiny. It's not like some diusy part. Yeah, no,
it nearly is.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's oh yeah yeah, yeah, no, No.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I think American people who are like Little Mermaid statue
and they go, what is this like art piece?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know what I mean? At the shore of the water. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The one thing that also really touched my brain was
too is like sort of I think this happens especially
with kids of color in America, especially in like the
late eighties and nineties, like who do I model my
life after?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
On TV?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like I don't have an example? And like, especially for
me being black in Japanese, like there was certainly no
like black and Eese person for me to look up to.
So I'd be like, so you can do karate man
or you can do basketball gangster and like trying to
figure out like sort of parsing through all those things
and like trying to land on who you are and
(11:01):
what you know, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Like am I who I am?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Or am I this version of like who do I
select from from the available?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like characters on TV?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I was like a combination of like Will Smith. I
was mostly like Will Smith. I think Will Smith was
like cause I was like I wasn't full of myself.
I wasn't a tough guy, so I was never like
trying to put on some like tough kid persona.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Although trying to get into watching No, they.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Wouldn't have me, you know, they should be like you
might you look like maybe you would be an sts
the Filipino gang they were having me watching. But yeah,
like I was just like just all of these things.
It's it's interesting just to see how you know, universal
that kind of experience. It especially for like kids of
immigrants or just you know, like non white kids in
(11:47):
the US. So yeah, just all over, just really really
fun and read aside from just like the very serious
stuff too, which I thought was really poignant.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, just all the ways that you know, the gap
between your per like you existence as a human being
with an inner life, and then the way often white
men will talk to you.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Well, have you heard of the Asian fetish being a
white man?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I have heard that. My wife is Korean actually,
so I've been.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh yeah, just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I've been there for many Where are you from from questions?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh wait, you've witnessed it?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I have a friend who is married to a
Korean woman also, and it's she's the first Asian he's
ever dated. He definitely doesn't have an Asian fetish, and
he's like he gets like little remarks here and there,
like questions like, oh do you have an Asian you know, like, yeah, yeah,
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You probably getting nudged by other pervert dudes who are like, hey,
many and you're like, get it. My fucking wife I'm
in love with since I.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Was like a young man. No, yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, it's I mean I think about too, like I've like,
you know, my friends who are Asian women. They talk
about how like you know, how much you have to
really kind of have your head on a swivelf a
lot of times because dudes will just are purely there
to be like Asian, right, okay in that voice too, yeah,
Or she'll be like I have one homegrow.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like I'll go on to date this.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
If the guy says Asian anything, I'm off this, Like
I'm not even trying to hear it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
My wife literally had a policy of like she didn't
really date people who had dated same women before because
she was just like, yeah, I don't want that to
be your thing. I don't want to be like part
of your thing for Asian women.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I just feels like not special.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah. Yeah, And she had hurt, like she was like
and then sometimes they'll be like, oh, it's just like
being into blondes, and I'm like not really. But it
was funny because as I was like talking to her
about the book, she like all these conversations that she
had had were coming up. So yeah, super fascinating. Yea.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Some men are very weird if the things they feel
very comfortable saying.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, right, yes, yea. They live in a consequence free world.
That's right. All right, Well, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of stories
we're talking about. We're going to talk about Mike Johnson
walking back his claim that Trump is like an undercover
agent for taking down Jeffrey Epstein, like he was going
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under cover as a pedophile. I mean, that's why he
might see in those files so much. We'll talk about
Eric Adams, We'll talk about women going to Turkey for
limb shortening procedures, all of that plenty more. But first, Kylo,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, okay, my search my searches are pretty boring. But
the most recent one because I went scuba diving yesterday,
just Catalina boat dives versus shore dives.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean, that's super. Don't don't don't ask me that
I'm so boring. I just went scuba diving yesterday. It
was such an interesting hub.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's very obscure.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I feel yeah cool, though A lot.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Of people like get clusterphobic, which is weird. It makes sense,
but weird though, right because the ocean is vast right right, claustrophobic.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's because you can't get out. I mean I when
I did the it took me a second. I went
scuba diving for the first time a few years ago,
and trusting to breathe at that pace I think was
like the biggest thing I had to really stay like
mindful of because I wanted to kind of like naturally
you kind of want to start hyperventilating or something like
this is how.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I breathe, Like how my breathing when I smoke pot,
am I breathing normal? Sounds? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, that was like super super difficul for me.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But yeah, do you Scooba have a lot?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I love it, but it.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sounds like you you're a lot of people just don't
like it after they experience.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I got into it, like once they get into it,
once I found my zone, then I'm like, this is
dope because there is something really amazing about like being
at the on the floor of the ocean.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Magical. Yeah, I'm meditated. If I would say.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And like I saw a turtle and
I'm like, yeah, man, if this ship wasn't so expensive
to do, maybe i'd do it a lot more.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah. I love snorkeling, but yeah, I just feels because
you're on the surface, like or near the surface, so
that just feels like you're flying. But yeah, that's interesting
of like feeling claustrophobic, like for further down, I guess
because because you can have nowhere to go.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, truly. I mean if that's in your mind, you're like,
I have nowhere to go, quote unquote, it's like you
got the whole ocean and go to.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Just Yeah, I've got a bad mind, so I feel
like it would be I feel like that's exactly where
my mind would go.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, there's a lot to get paranoid about out there,
so I'll yeah, not be paranoid person.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah right, And so shot dive or boat dive.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Better boat dive.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Because there's like a marine park in you know, you
can see these giant black sea basses in California that
are as big as you are.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Ye, so you can look like a normal fish, but
they're the size of a human being. Yeah, fucking crazy.
They the California Science Center too.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh they do.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Okay, yeah, so they're protected so you can see them
in this marine park. So shore dives there's just like
crowds of people, but if you go out on a boat,
it's like just your right, your group.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, so better wow, okay, okay, yeah, I've caught them before.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
They're fucking a giant sea bass.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Not that size, but like a sea bass that I
caught fish. I was used to like bass being a thing,
like a fresh water thing, and then I went like
deep sea fishing and caught sea bass and they're like
they they weren't the size of me, but they're like
massive fish that are fucking so heavy and hard to pull.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Up though, right or did you take it? I'm pretty
sure they're protected.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It was sea bass and it was like late nineties.
So we're doing a lot of things that we weren't
supposed to do back then. Yeah, insider trading.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Insurance, catching an illegal fish yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, yeah for sure. Right, Wow, that's through a back
all right, Who's why am I on trial here?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm so mad at fishing, like even when I go
on those things or they're basically like to do everything
for you for bro never catch anything.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You pick up the rod and it immediately goes off.
Yeah yeah, like just no, no more fishing line. They're like,
what happened. I'm like, we're the fishing line though, He's like,
what the fuck? I just let it go?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Three thousand feet of that ship on there ran.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Well, I don't know if it has to be pop culture,
but I say Taiwan because I'm from there, and like
people are so obsessed with going to Japan, but like
Taiwan's way cheaper, has like comparable food and is like
uh Tokyo wannabe.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So you get the.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Vibes I want to go to Taiwan so bad.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh really, I love because it's so you know. One
of the things I did it for me was I
saw the like a photo of the trains and I
was like, this is exactly like in Japan. I was like,
for a second, I was like, this looks this At
least the train car looked the same. But yeah, the food,
I think because especially right now in like La, I
feel like there's there's a huge boom in like Taiwanese
(19:43):
food being like the new kind of like Asian food
that people are really into so yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, because Japan occupied Taiwan for the period of time
and the Taiwanese were kind of like we like it
versus like South Korean's were like, oh, we hate the
japany Yeah, I mean like the Taiwanese took to it
semi favorably.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm like, usually colonialism, imperialism doesn't go down.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Well with people, but yeah, I mean it's their fucking problem.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, but we hate China.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah yeah, right then, and that's why America loves loves Taiwan,
doesn't the folks, don't they chips?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
We have all the chips, So yeah, you cannot lose Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You better protect Taiwan.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I read about how you know, like there's there
are protocols in place to be like if somebody if
they pull up, the whole chip industry is gone, like
no one's having.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
It, like you to have a hold of all the chips,
you know, the micro whatever chips.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, very very very uh rational.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Way of geopolitics that would happen in this world. What
are something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Paris?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'm like tired of hearing everybody want to go to
Paris like I thought it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Was okay, m hm, did you go recently?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I've been like a couple of times, but yeah, it's
been a couple of years. I would never pay to
go there, Like I'm gonna get like docks for that.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Emily in Paris fans.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean that's not even a real depiction of Earth.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That TV show.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Wait what is your then? What's your favorite place to
go to?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Oh, but that's like the ultimate diving destination.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's why, Oh you are really out here diving.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I really really yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Wow Okay, yeah, I was like, yes, the beaches, You're
like no, the marine life and I'm like, oh yeah,
yeah that too. That too. The luxury yea and the
scuba diving in Paris not quite as good.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I've heard, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Notes for parents, just like one note, what does parents
need to work on? Fix everything up?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I just think it's like a city, Like why are
people glamorizing this city? Okay, there's like some cool architecture.
There's some cool architecture in London, and like I'm super
not oppressed impressed with London either. The French could be
nicer to Americans because we're faking them. We're fake nice
to them when they come here.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah. Right. I've always had the experience that I think,
I think I'm girding myself for like being just treated
like absolute dogshit, and then everyone's like, okay, like they're
not so mean, maybe because I'm so obsequious, just like
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they're just like they're uncomfortable and want to get me
out of there as soon as possible. So I'm just like,
I don't know, man, just do it be nice to
this person?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So yeahs are as advertised great croissants. Be nicer to
me when I try and talk my terrible version of French.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I think if you at least try to speak French,
they like the effort, because I think that a lot
of Americans don't even bother.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
They're like speaking to them in English.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Like most of my friends will go and they're like,
I tried speaking and they go, I speak English and
they're like okay. They're like they'll be like, man, thank
you for trying. But now we can do this transition. Yeah,
this is for you more than it is for me.
Let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk
about the news.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, and big,
big news at the end of last week that I
don't know why we weren't treating with more reverence. I mean,
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this is huge. Obviously, Donald Trump has been wanting to
get this Epstein story behind him, and then at the
end of last week, Mike Johnson was the speaker, Speaker
of the dang House. Yes, yeah, he is speaker Speaker
of the dang House. Come out, say Trump. The only
reason he's in all those pictures and constantly hanging out
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with Jeffrey Epstein was he secretly undercovered dude. Wait, like
I didn't want to say anything because it might blow
up his spot, but yeah, man, was he was secretly
an FBI in format this quote who helped take down
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'll play this quote because it's the first of all.
The speed at which Mike Johnson is talking should already
be concerning because he is. Of course, he thinks, because again,
the reason he gets to is because someone says like
Donald Trump keeps calling this whole thing a hoax, and
Mike Johnson has been trying to walk down and he's like,
of course, course the crimes are.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Not a hoax.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's the attention that people are giving. It's like it's
a really hard needle for him to thread. H But
this is him speaking on that and yes, which he
does basically let everyone know that Trump is a FED informant.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But Trump called a hoax yesterday.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
What Trump is referring to is the hoax that the
Democrats are using to try to attack him. He has
never said or suggested during Blood. I've talked to him
about this many times, many times he is it's been misrepresented.
He's not saying that what Epstein did as a hoax.
It's a terrible, unspeakable evil. He believes that himself. When
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he first heard the rum where he kicked him out
of mary Lago, he was an FBI informant to try
to take this stuff down.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
What oh, I'm sorry he kicked him out of mar Laga.
He's trying to He's the FBI informant. Take the stuff
just one more time.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Unspeakable evil. He believes that himself. When he first heard
the room where kicked him out of mari Lango, he
was an FBI informant to try to take this this
stuff down. The President knows and has great sympathy for
the women.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean, what is he really said that he's an
FBI informants trying to take this take this thing down? Man,
What a terrible, terrible bit of improv from Mike Johnson
there that only if he didn't even say that, there
wouldn't be headlines. But the fact that he insisted that
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he's an FBI informant says a few things. I think
I've seen enough TV shows to know that when you're
an informant, it's usually because you're inside the criminal organization
and then you get caught up in some shit and then.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
The FEDS go all right, here's a deal. You're gonna
turn informant, and.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, you're gonna turn on your boy. Yeah you're gonna
flip on him. That's it's not snitches don't get stitches
because they are whistleblowers at a like at a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
They're talking just like because you was down with the
whole thing. How dare you?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
A very very odd defense, because I think they're still
trying there. I think they have to figure out a
way how they explain why Trump is in these documents,
why he's named so I guess.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
All the fuck over them. Yeah, all over the place.
So obviously, I mean he he's a Speaker of the House.
You have to assume this was cleared, like this is
a new strategy right where like the Trump administration is
rolling it out, except not at all that Like they
immediately were like whoa, no, Actually they tried to walk
(27:34):
it back. They claimed that what he meant was that
Trump kicked Epstein out of mar A Lago, right, that
was the thing he said before, before he said he
was an FBI informant.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
He's an FBI informant.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
What he meant was not that part. You didn't Let's
just pretend you didn't hear the part where he said
he's FBI informant.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I again, I don't know why I where he thought
this was good. I don't know if maybe they did.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They're like, maybe try that, just see if people laugh.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
At you if you say that immediately and the fact
that everyone on the internet was like, what the fuck
is that that? Now, it's like, no, no, no, that's
not what I meant at all when I literally used
the words he was an FBI informant.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Trying to take this whole thing down. Okay, well, I
think back to the drawing board for them. Yeah, they
just have that difficulty of like he keeps doing things
that would suggest that he's terrible heavily implicated in this
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh man, that's like that would be so funny. It's
like you get caught with like cigarettes or something in
high school or Mom's like, what.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are these cigarettes? You're like, Mom, I'm more informed, Fuck you,
look around you to make the principal was like, go
hang out with these kids and figure out who's smoking
cigarettes and then take this thing down from the inside.
That's what I was trying to do, mother.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
But does anyone actually believe him? Like everybody knows he
was heavily like best friend him, right.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I think it's like, so it's in such a state
where they're desperate for anything, you know that they're they're
truly just like say it because next week they'll just
add it to the list of the crazy things we've
said that we're trying to just sort of like worm
our way out of this, which is just really absurd
at this point because again, all of his behaviors indicate
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someone who is terribly implicated or for whatever reason, expending
a lot of energy to protect someone. So either way,
it's not a great look. This is the q theory
of the case because for entire first administration, QAnon was like,
what could possibly explain that he's the president who we
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all think is like there to take down a cabal
of you know, democratic perverts, and he's not doing it.
And so the theory was that he is like working
undercover as the president to take like you know, spin
this web to like catch everybody, and like one day
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he was just gonna like everybody's gonna wake up and
he was gonna have switch you know, Hillary Clinton, the
Clinton's and Obama like you know, up against a wall,
you know, because he's actually just been gathering evidence. The
fact that he hasn't leaned like this does make me
think if you had just leaned into that and been like, sorry, guys,
(30:30):
I can't can't let you know, classify like the like
the predator from True Lies, the Bill uh oh, Bill
Paxson pasting character who's just like, sorry, Dave, this is
top secret information.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You're just gonna have to trust me and have sex
with me. No, you're you're a lying used car salesman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's kind of the vibe that I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Honestly, he may at this point because we've may go
with it. We've seen everything, and it's I don't know.
I mean like that's like the one thing that the
media should keep putting constant attention on, aside from all
the fascistic nonsense he's doing, like sort of like implying
that he was gonna napalm Chicago maybe with that Apocalypse
(31:14):
Now reference. I'm not sure what part of the Apocalypse
Now reference he was trying to get with that truth.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So again, this was being blown out of this is
being blown out of context. Okay, what the President meant
was obviously he cared very much about Chicago and he's
just a fan of that movie.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
He's not declaring war on a US city. He just
used that they're gonna find out what war is in
ament of war a roundabout kind of way. So yeah, yeah,
Mike Johnson, I would say, work on the improv skills
a bit, but you might as well just you know,
transparency is really the best thing at this point rather
(31:53):
than just kind of continuing to just string like string
everybody along.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
But I think they just don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I think they know, like they're probably looking at like Okay,
so it's got if we get to the point where
we release it, we have to explain why Donald Trump's
name is there, or why it's redacted or why it's implied.
So we need a way to explain that. And that's I.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Think we're seeing them audition a bunch of the soft
launch of that theory that they're gonna go Withsly.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's Donnie Brasco.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Dude, Donnie Trump is Donnie Brasco. I guess that's right.
But yeah, they they him. Yeah, it wasn't like because
he was already best friends with Jeffrey Epstein. They recruited
him and asked him to uh, befriend this guy to
make sure.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
White House, the White House may be calling you soon.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I'm just saying I couldn't be more obvious.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, and he was undercover, so he had to partake
of all the women.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Basically, that's where it's gonna get weird.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, I don't know, have you ever seen a movie
with like an undercover agent where they like cut the
drugs and they're like, do that line. He had to. Yeah,
he had to do what he had to do. You know.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's they're probably gonna say some ship like he's a
method actor. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like this wasn't even
an acting role. He's an He's an FBI method actor,
informant dude sent from heaven. Okay, that's an angel, thank you. Yeah,
And a lot of people were touched by an angel. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Great show, great show, one of the best. Uh real quick.
The Trump administration is terrified of Zorimumdani and they are
appear to be trying to conspire with Eric Adams to
get him out of the race so that Cuomo can
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consolidate the anti Zorin vote. And so he was reportedly
offered the job to be ambassador to Saudi Arabia, the
just the most corrupt thing, it like seeming job. It
sounds like.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
An insult to say, ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Yeah, it's
like it's like, what are you the ambassador to Saudi
Arabia and you're like the most corrupt, vile person.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Whose job is just like being open to corruption. All right,
there we go, that's that's the gig for him. And
then after this news spread, Eric Adams held a press
conference and insisted that he's staying in the mayor's race.
Wouldn't comment on the ambassador job though.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I don't do you think this sitting mayor like
that's the thing. I don't know where his ego's at,
Like does he really drop out because he's like whatever,
I'm protected now I'll be the ambassador to Saudi Arabia
or is he really going to be.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Like no, I really got a shot at this. I
could be then I could be the man New York
one more time.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But it sounds like everybody is probably like trying to
induce him dropping out of the race so everyone can
get behind, which god, I feel like probably does Eric Adam.
I wonder if Eric Adam is he pulling better.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think so. I think he's pulling worse than Cuomo.
But he has like he's been dropping like anti Cuomo
memes all over social media and stuff, so like they
I'm assuming they're gonna ask him to drop out and
endorse Yomo, which will be interesting. I mean, it would
almost suggest that he's a bit of a live bit
of two faced, if you know what I'm saying, a hypocrite,
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which I don't think people are ready to learn about
Eric Adams thing with New York.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
For me, it's too much of a city when I
think of it. It's such a city when I visit it,
not really interested in it at all.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Kind of reminds me of Paris.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It's like, yeah, I'd rather be scuba diving in the Hudson.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
The East River. I yet to do the East River.
I hear great things, did you imagine?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, the one probably amongst other corpses. Probably they'll be like,
oh you went down there, Like, yeah, the people.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Who have ever scuba dived in there. We're looking for
corpses part of a team. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's
take one more break. We'll be right back, and we're back.
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We're back. And so apparently Turkey you know hot spot
for men getting new hairlines? Oh yeah, do they do
the leg lengthening surgeries. I didn't do it all. They
do it all, just one stop shop. But now there's
a new one where people are going to get their
(36:48):
limbs shortened.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
In Yeah, specifically women. So we've seen over the last
few years like a surge in men that have traveled
abroad to get like the extendo piece put on your
femur so you can finally be you know, however tall
you need to be to feel good about yourself.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I get it. We live in enough terrible society.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
But that same toxicity seems to be also affecting women,
because there are more and more reports of people going
to Turkey now to again like take down their hype
a few inches. Well really yeah, where again it's the
same terrible procedure where like your femur or tibia is
like like they take bone off of your most significant
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bone in your body and then secure it with.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
A metal rod.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And you know, one woman reportly went from one hundred
like five to seven and three quarters almost five eight
to five six.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Why isn't that Why would you want to be shorter
than five seven?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I think trying to be an astronaut is in this
Like there's there's a Daily Mail article and a Vice
article about it, and like the Daily Mail one is
kind of more like, you know, because some women it's
a little hard out there being a tall woman, and they're.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Saying, I mean, I know that's five seven, Like it's
five five six average.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, I had to guess. If I had to guess,
I think they're in a relationship and the man is
too scared to get the leg lengthening and so he's like,
the only other option here. I need I need you
to bring it down by a couple of inches so
that I don't look that same height as yet.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That is the most man ship to do. It's like,
I'm afraid I don't want to get a fear of surgery.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I'm not gonna get that to me. You you do
the thing. I don't want it. I don't want leg lengthening.
You should be shorter. You're a freakish five seven and
three quarters. What are we fucking talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
They do have like there's the like some literature like
advertisements where the clinics that are doing the surgeries have
like a whole package where you can.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Go for this procedure.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So like like this, this makes sense with like medical tourism,
where it's like you go and while you're recovering, like
the hotels are deeper, there's entertainment at all, and it
all ends up being cheaper than just buying asthma medication.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
In the US.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Still doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
If you're going to get a leg lengthening or shortening,
wouldn't you want to add like five inches.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Not one?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
In I think this is where like there. I think
in the early days they're probably dialing in how much
they can add before the recovery is just.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Completely inches not worth anything like yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
No no, but they're like they're dudes, right, Like I
went from five to six to five nine, Like I seen,
there's kind of one inch.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, but then the recovery is like six months in
bed right awful.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, you are your wheelchair bound. Like the physical therapy
to like retrain your body's new legs like leg length,
it's it's really fucked up. And then there's all kinds
of risks involved, like nerve damage, bone infections, like uh,
fractures that don't see properly fu. Yeah, and also like
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the rods that reinforce your height in either direction, they
have like a specific like weight load, like a limit
that they can carry, so like you have to like weight,
like you have to be mindful of all these things.
Like it's it's not just as simple as like I
went in I had a whole like arcane surgery where
my legs were broken and like length lengthened. But I
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also now have to be mindful of the load capacity
of these metal rods I've enforced my life.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
But beyond that though, like beyond okay, So you stand
up and try to walk after where after you're done
healing and you walk like Vincentinofrio and then in black.
You have a weight limit, like like an airplane, where
like if you if you overpack a bag by like
ten pounds, your legs like break starting to try and
pick them up.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
They say to start even to be considered, you have
to weigh under one hundred and sixty five pounds.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Okay, But it's not a weight limit that you can
hold like, it's a weight limit of like I mean,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Like, oh, oh, like on top of the stress you're
putting on your body right right, you try to pick
up something that's too heavy, is there a chance that
it's just like oh damn, you just got three inches shorter.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, like you to coming in pain. You go to
Costco and.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You got to bring in a bunch of cans and shit,
they're like I got all the seltzers and they're like,
oh god, no, it's it's besides those risks, Like what
are the downsides? I don't even get, Like what's everybody
complaining about?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
This sounds awesome? I'm so good. Oh it sounds horrific.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Like it's interesting too, because like Kylie, you talk about
in your book too, about like metaphorically shrinking ourselves, right,
making ourselves smaller, like to sort of conform to the
side of things like this is now we're talking to
the literal level of like I'm going to become smaller
through surgery. Now it's really wild, wild, wild era we're in.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I really want to know the motivation against for the women.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Because if you're like a six three woman, then I
can see, oh, it's difficult to find, you know, my
selection if you're looking for taller guys. Yeah, but if
you're five to seven, you still have like tons of options.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I mean also, like you could just go to another
country where like that is the average height. I was
like in Scandinavia and I was with her majesty, my wife.
She's she's sure, she's like five to one, and we
were laughing. We're like, I don't haven't seen a single
lady that's his smallness, you know, like the ones that
are are not from are not Scandinavian. Everybody was walking
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like five eight and shit, I was like, god damn,
which makes sense. I mean, like, hey, just.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Go maybe maybe we're in the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
But yeah, this is like I mean, they talk about
sort of like the politics of height in dating, but
that's still I don't know, like it's still.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'm still not total. Also, so your legs are gonna
be like way shorter, but then like have a great
wings You're gonna look like an NBA player kind of
like with like big wingspan and like short, you know,
like bigger wingspan than the rest of your body. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
There's also like in the like vice article, they just
like left this one sort of thing hanging there, like
was really interesting, just said despite the absurdity, it says
height has been directly connected to health, and you're like,
researchers have linked tall stature of women to conditions like
increased cancer risk. And I'm like, well, like that's don't
just put that in there.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
What are you saying? And I don't think it's like
the air up there. I think it's probably like things
having to do with like the amount of work that
your body's having to do. I don't think you can
just hack that by cutting two inches off your legs.
You're five to nine, you know what I mean, Like
this is it's so weird. Like even the articles that
are discussing this are very like they don't even know
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what their take is on this, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
There's also like health risks, and they linked to a
study that just said published research that showed people seem
to have a higher risk of cancer seem.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
To have it.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
That is not that doesn't feel like unequivocal, like a
scientific breakthrough that you're gonna report on.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
We need one of those MTV documentaries is like where
they used to have in the early aughts where it
was like, you know, I want to look exactly like
Brad Pitt. Yeah, like you just like really get to
know them, and like that was called all out there.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
It was called True Life. I Want a Famous Face
was the episode. I remember that very very.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Like I binge that series.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, all of those two. I want really short thighs.
The rest of my body? Is that the which which
leg bone is it? It's the bone between your knee
and your hip, yeah, femur Yeah, yeah, that's feels weird.
Be disproportionately shorter than the rest of your body's shorter legs,
so that's not gonna look good.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I think this is just like that's what's like interesting too,
because you look at sort of the the amount of
people that it, like they said it went from like
a couple in twenty twenty three to more in twenty
twenty four and even more in twenty twenty five, so
like it was truly like only like two people had
done it at this one clinic and really but then
when you like look at Reddit, like there are people
talking abou of like, oh that that does seem interesting,
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like people considering it, and you're like, oh, well, look
we get it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, I'm sure there are people who yeah, like you said,
like who it is like really a pain in the
ass for them to be taller. But man, that that
fucking sounds brutal for this to be this losion.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
But I think this is kind I think it sort
of speaks to how we have these like sort of
messages reinforced to us societally where you're like, well, like,
I certainly can't be a tall queen out here in
these streets. You know, kings.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
That's your one thing. Yeah that you're just like fuck that,
You're like and like.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Think of the writ I mean, look at what Lebron
James did to his scalp. You know what I mean,
Lebron James Harolines still doesn't look good no matter how
many times you went to Turkey. And I get it
because you know, having hair is like a sign of
virility and.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, and he definitely needs like subtle signs of virility
when he's like the greatest athlete we've ever seen. Know,
that's like my definition, Like what the fuck? Man? You
don't raise them all?
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan was like, fuck that, bro, I'm
playing basketball though.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
The hair, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I don't know if the hair plug technology was there.
Do you think Michael Jordan would have got hair plugs?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I don't know. Probably could have, but did he ever?
Did he ever have hair? And like it was fading.
I feel like it felt like it was it was
just came off.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I think I think the second he probably felt it wavering,
He's like, no, no, no, fuck that I cannot I'm
Michael Jordan and maybe putilized toxicity where he.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Was like, don't let them see you with the receding hair. Ever,
the only image I can picture of him with hair.
He has a very strong hairline, you know, Yeah, like Jordan.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
So like hair without hair always to me, I don't
remember ever seeing him with hair like the first.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Two years of his career hair and then he went
completely bald.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, no, there's there's a there's a couplet eight nine,
nineteen eighty nine. He looks like Joe Peshy in Home
Alone when he had that blowtorch at the top of
his beanie.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh you know, yeah, when he lets it grow out
a little bit, it's definitely baldness. All right, Michael, All right, Mike,
thanks for standing with King. Shout out the bald kings
out there. You know what I mean. Don't have to
go to Turkey. Just just love yourself, radical cell of yourself,
and be one of the best athletes in the history
of sport.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I need Jack, That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I need these basketball lessons. I can accept my receiving hairline. Kyla,
such a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist. Where
can people find you? Follow you, find your book all
that good stuff?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, just under my name.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
My name's Kyla you so you can find me on
all platforms, and the book is in all bookstores, but
I always recommend your local independent bookstore.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, it's called fetishized fetish.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Is reckoning with yellow fever, feminism and beauty. Bye k
I l A and then Yu. Everybody should go check
it out. Is there a work of media that you've
been enjoying besides your own book?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
That's all I read and watch it.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Over and over and over again. I'm not a fan
of anything else. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
No, I've been watching the Amanda Knox on Hulu and
that's been really fascinating.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Have you guys followed that at all?
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I mean initially when the case came, But I'm not, like,
I know, I know I have friends that are in
the Knox averse fully like waiting for this to come out,
and I forgot that there are people who really follow
the Amanda Knox stuff closely. But no, I mean, like,
aren't they like multiple Amanda Knox things out right now?
Speaker 4 (48:34):
So many they're like, but this one's like a reenact,
like a dramaticize and I think she wrote it, or
she was a producer and co wrote.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It or something.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
But yeah, obviously it's from her point of view, but
it sounds like they like forced you know, they did
the forced coerced confession thing. I think it's easy to
do on a nineteen year old girl when there's like
a bunch of men yelling at you in Italian.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, fully, fully. The documentary contains one of the wildest
comedic characters I've ever encountered. There's a the detective who's
like one of the main detectives on the case in Italy,
is like always smoking a pipe and he like makes
these like broad declarations. He's like, uh, you can tell
(49:23):
that a woman committed this crime because it was covered
up with like a blanket, and women will be ashamed
of the crime that they and like, but his whole
energy is just so unbelievable, just like so full of
so obliviously full of shit that like you can't believe
that this is a real person. Oh wow, Well I
(49:45):
highly recommend I'll just miss it.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
In the pile of documentaries that because every streamer ends
up putting out a documentary about the same thing, I
think there is one. It's like I was just talking
about that earlier, like in an earlier episode about it's like, well,
what's our version of the thing everyone's doing right now?
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Our version of the fire festival because everyone had to
cover it.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, I remember that the mock Knox thing happened at
the fire Fest. I'm saying, huh uh, great miles, where
can people find you as their workimedia? You've been enjoying.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Great find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can
catch me on four twenty. We're back this week talking
about ninety Day Fiance, my favorite trash reality shows. That's
my version of scuba diving, Kayla, where I should.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Have included that in my book.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, ninety Day Fiance is very lots of white men
searching first.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Oh god, yes, some all time classics, and those guys
are so fucking bad, like I'm not even bad at
They have no self awareness around it, and they always
say the same as like.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
Well, you know, dating women in the UK is a
bit difficult, and I felt look in the Philippines, the
women are just nicer than more understand, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Oh my god, you're looking for a nurse. Anyway, that's
where you can find me. What else was I gonna say?
Work of media I've been joining. I was reading Kyle's
book over the weekend. Really suggests everyone to check out
Kyla's book. And also I've been watching like this summer
(51:21):
I turned pretty or the summer I turned hot.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
What is it this summer? I turned pretty Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, teenager.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's a white thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
So my partner, her majesty, is fourteen years old. I'm
not clear to you, Kyla. Even though I was dropping
references to Asian gangs in their late nineties early two thousands,
I'm actually fourteen years old.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
I was ud of history. I love history.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, ap, you know remember them?
Speaker 1 (51:47):
So there's uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I was just like it was one of these things
where she's watching She's like, you should watch this movie,
and like, I.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Don't know anything. I don't relate to these fucking characters
at all. She's like, don't you know someone who got
hot one summer? And I'm like, I guess, but.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
That's not That's not how I that's not how I
get interested in something, because I mean to like, I
don't like Jurassic Park because I knew someone who was
toying with DNA and created a dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I'm like things that peopled to me not.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
But then I found myself through osmosts being like what
whoa what's the what are they saying now?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Is she is she not going to marry him? Oh?
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
And she's like I thought you weren't watching Wait so good.
It's it's like a it's very it's a it's like
it's team soap opera, you know what I mean. So
it's not like it's not hard hitting, but it's like
it hits these tropes of your childhood that sure a
lot of people get into. As Victor says, it's very messy.
(52:42):
People are taken by it. Yeah yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Me, superducer. Victor said, this is exactly how I got
roped into the show.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Oh really, yeah, that's what happens. See and and then
I end up knowing so much about the show. I'm like, well,
you know, I don't. I'm like, actually, Conrad isn't that
cute to me? I think Jeremiah is cute than Conrad.
And she's like, you like Jeremiah.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
That's These are the conversations we're screaming as we try
and put our child to sleep right now the summer.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Pretty yeah show, my favorite show, my favorite show, and
I contain multitudes, Kyla.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
You know I'm in here driving my Honda Prelude with
the bolted on TV screen, tears in my eyes watching.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Watching it on your bolted and workimedia. I've been enjoying coach.
Finnstock dot bsky dot social tweeted a picture of wolf
Blitzer next to this is actually from last season, but
celebrating a Buffalo Bill's win with his like giving it
a thumbs up with the bill's hat in front of
(53:43):
a TV that is in like one of those stained
wood like media cabinets. And he said, wolf Blitzerer celebrating
a Bill's win in a room that hasn't been updated
since the towers fell. First of all, it's almost nine eleven.
Never forget, and a modern Venus responded, this proves Jack
O'Brien's theory about fame pausing your tech adoption, which, if
(54:07):
you think about it, wolf Blitzer peak the peak of
his career as every year he's like ninety twenty years ago,
I was reporting the nine to eleven for CNN. So yeah,
his his media cabinet still has a DVD player in it,
still appears to have a laser disc player, laser Dick player,
(54:30):
lasers Beta, Matt TiVo. Yeah, still still I forgot.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I did have a thing, a piece of media that
I was like, I've just it was it was stuck
in my brain. Also, Victor just said I'm problematic. If
I'm team Jeremiah, I say Jeremiah's cuter. Okay, I think
Conrad looks like a rejected version of a Leonardo DiCaprio
wax doll.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
For those that know, they know. This was the thing
that Ben Collins reposted on Blue Sky. It's a Little
League umpire who unfortunately just gets hit in the crotch
three times during one game.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
Incredible run of bad luck.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
It's it feels like the it feels like you're watching
like a nineties comedy, like that was the first one.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Here's another foul tip. Oh poor up tied the kids
literally game.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
The last one folds him up to the ground. Here
comes oh Kyla, you're calling it?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Oh my, I mean get a full Homer Simpson doll.
Yeah yeah, yeah that man.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
It shout out to people who in ab volunteering for
kids sports to try to get my time and then
you're out.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Here just getting wrecked. Sorry all right. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian on Blue Sky,
Jack ob the number one. You can find us on
Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeigeist. We're at the
Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to the description
of the episode wherever you're listening to it, and there
at the bottom you will find the footnote note, which
(56:13):
is where we link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode. We also link off to
a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles, is
there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (56:23):
So I was watching a YouTube clip where one of
my favorite producers, Fred Again, was making a track with
this other producer named black Boy Max. And in this
video he was like kind of mashing up a Dochi
vocal sample over this.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Beat and people were like, oh this he was.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
It wasn't even as track he was releasing, but it
was so cool and was like, you gotta put this out,
You gotta put this out. That song came out on
an album that Fred Again did with Skepta, and that
track is called Victory Lap. And if you're a Dochi fan,
he samples like her verse from Swamp Bitches with Rico Nasty.
But anyway, this is Victory Lap Fred Again and skept
(57:00):
a black Boy Max check get out and.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Link off to it of the footnotes. The Daily ZEI
Guy is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,
visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen
to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for
us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you
what is trending and we will talk to yell then
bye bye.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long,
co produced by Bee Wang.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
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