Resistance via MAGA Self Owns, Tron = AI PsyOp? 10.10.25

In episode 1946, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, actor, and host of Podcast But Outside, Andrew Michaan, to discuss… The Comey ‘Prosecution’ Is Another Example of American Slop Fascism, Norway Is Afraid That Trump Will Retaliate For Nobel Prize Snub, Jordan Peterson Almost Died And Nobody Even Noticed, New Study Has Concerning Trends Regarding AI Use In Schools…, Is Tron 3 Secretly Disney’s Pro-AI Psyop? And more!

1. Trump Accidentally Posted Message That Could Destroy Entire Comey Case
2. Central witness undermines case against James Comey, prosecutors concluded: Sources
3. Norway Is Afraid That Trump Will Retaliate For Nobel Prize Snub
4. Jordan Peterson Almost Died And Nobody Even Noticed
5. New Study Has Concerning Trends Regarding AI Use In Schools…
6. If A.I. Can Diagnose Patients, What Are Doctors For?
7. Tron: Ares review – even Gillian Anderson can’t slap this mind-bendingly dull sci-fi into shape
8. Jared Leto’s Tron: Ares Is Getting Demolished In Some Early Reviews
9. Tron: Ares is so bad it makes you wish AI would hurry up and destroy Hollywood
10. AI Is Inevitable and Looks Like Jared Leto
11. Nine women accuse Jared Leto of sexual impropriety in new report
12. Jared Leto Is Running a Cult Straight Out of a True Crime Docuseries
13. 'Tron: Ares' Wants Us to Consider That A.I. Can Be Used for Both Good and Evil
14. ‘Tron: Ares’ Review: Disney’s Buggy Upgrade Introduces Jared Leto as an AI Determined to Enter the Real World
15. Disney Will Use AI in Movies & TV but Has 3 Rules for It
16. Disney Scrapped Dwayne Johnson Deepfake For ‘Moana’ & AI-Generated Soldier For ‘Tron: Ares’: “Company Couldn’t Risk The Bad Publicity”
17. Tesla Optimus: Tried to start a fight at the Tron: Ares premiere
18. Tesla’s Optimus robot steals spotlight at 'Tron: Ares' premiere with kung fu antics | Watch
19. Elon Musk Reacts To Trailer Of Jared Leto-Starrer Sci Fi Thriller Tron: Ares That Explores Feelings Of Rogue AI: Watch
20. Jared Leto Invests in Generative AI Video Startup
21. Jared Leto invests in $500M AI startup despite calls from other stars to shut down the controversial tech

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Would you spill? You didn't spill on your computer, did you?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:07):
I just spilled this, like I don't know. My girlfriend
had plants that are like in water.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
No, do you know?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
That's really interesting? You can you can grow plants just
in water. You don't have a certain and it's just
and it just works.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I love that you. It's pretty cool you and I
have the same plant understanding and our partners have the
different kind because I did the same ship. Like my
wife had these clippings like it's just in water though,
where you have to put those source like thee I
live like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Like crazy, it's really cool. But but isn't that what
hydro is? I guess, so wasn't that weed grown just water?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm not a scientist. I just smoke this ship.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
But but I have to say, I do feel like
these roots are searching for soil. I do think that's
ultimately what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
It also sounds like just a poetic thing to say
about yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Searching for soil. Tired of being in your glass bas
your glass menagerie, if you will, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
DAD just feels like sometimes I'm tired of being in
my glass vase.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
These roots are searching for soil.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four oh nine,
Episode five of Dirty's I guesst the Thrilling season finale?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
What season?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's a production of season four o nine. Everyone should
clean up your surfaces with Yeah, I was wondering where
I'd seen that number before.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
We should have branded God damn it. See that could
have been add money we could.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Have got get out of season four o nine again.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna tell you, Hey, we got
season four o nine coming up. Right. We've been saying
this for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness.
And it's Friday, October tenth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Ten ten ten, ten ten, Good buddy, they already know
ten ten three to one. Remember all those collect call numbers?
No you do remember ten ten three two one?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
That was like I dial down the middle.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
A L l att C A L l A T T.
That's the one that I I don't remember. Ten ten
Oh you man, former, this is yep, I remember this
dial around service. Hell yeah, they had John Lithgown on
the commercials. Anyway, That's what I'm gonna say. In the
old folks home in a few years or now. It's
also National Angel Food Cake Day National. It's a lot
of National cake decorating Day, National Handbag Day, National walk

(02:31):
to a Park Day, National mist France. I know man
went to a park with cakes and handbell talk to
a park if anything bro there. And I'm glad you
brought that up. Thank you, Miles. I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's about fucking time somebody said somebody brought that back.
My name is Jack O'Brien ak, and I would piss
in the Green Mile, and I'd piss in Apollo thirteen
just to be Tom Hanks, the guy who has to
piss in every movie you've seen dot ad apt oh

(03:09):
way off on the dot at ap doc that one
courtesy of you current do that on television. You certainly
that on television, but you can piss all over every
movie that I saw as a child.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Anyways, thank you you current do that on television. I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
mister Miles Gray as well Greg he the Lord of Legersham.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
In my final day in the nation's capital. It's been
a great run, great sandwiches, great weather. Finally got to
feel a little bit of fall weather because La is
still still in the eighties, right, We're still in the yeah, yeah, yeah.
Today was like the first kind of like cooler day.
And God, the way i've I've I brought this hoodie
to where because I haven't been able to wear a

(03:52):
hooded sweater for months now living in LA. Finally did it.
Thank you to the mid Atlantic. We love you getting chili.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's getting chilly in the mornings back here now and
I can report that to you. Do you at the
end of any trip to the nation's capitol, do you
say it's been fun spending this time with you in
the nation's capital, the Majesty?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, I know you always ask me to say that,
and I to this day I refuse to sort of
debate myself.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'm hanks brained this morning, guys, What can I say?
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by a hilarious comedian and actor who you've seen in
the classic Insider Trading Brian's Hat Courtroom sketch from I
Think You Should Leave, one of my favorite comedic battlements.
Performing stand ups stand ups on stages, making televisions across

(04:39):
this land doing make them ups on the internets. The
host of The Wonderful Show podcast, But outside It's Andrew Michall.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Hello, Hello, thank you all for having me. I am
not in Washington, d C. But I am and I
guess I would call this the West Coast capital, Los Angeles.
You know this is I think this is DC.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
West center of the world. I remember, did you. I mean,
wasn't that an idea you had as a kid where
you thought the city you lived in was the capital.
Like I thought LA was the capital of America for
the longest time, and then I learned what DC was.
I'm like, wait what I thought it's La. And then
then I learned Sacramento as a capital. I'm like, this

(05:21):
is not right. This is not right even for this
it's just six year life. It's just been a series
of disappointments. Ever, Yeah it was. Yeah, being seventeen, that
was a rough year. Yeah it was a rough year
for you. Yeah us history nine to eleven That also
happened when I was seventeen. But yeah, on my mind, did.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
You have nine to eleven envy as a person on
the West Coast?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I mean, I feel like I've said it before. I
remember I begged my mom to pick me up from
school on nine to eleven because I wanted to get out.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Of a test right But luckily there was I think
a lot of people rightly.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Were just like what the fuck could happen? And you know,
because like all the kids were leaving, and it almost
felt like, do my parents love me for the amount
of kids that were leaving school on nine to eleven?
Because like your cup, we're taking out of score, tak
out of school, bah blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
And I'm like Mom, She's like, I'm fucking working and
I'm like, okay, what yeah, no, And I was like,
can you at least get me like around two, because like,
I have a class I.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Do not want to be. She was like, you fucking idiot.
Fun I've never been.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
I had never been to New York as a care
then when nine to eleven happened, I didn't, you know,
I was in middle school or something, and I didn't
know what the twin Towers were. I mean, I just
didn't have a reference point for so I was like, okay,
I just didn't know.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I was okay. Another Tuesday in the books.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Actually hitchhike to school that day and I got a
ride and the person who picked me up told me
about it.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Sounds like the Bush administration was not the only person
who was unprepared on nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Also, that would I think that would be fair to
say both of you. And also, you know that triggered
because I was supposed to. I was a good stood
up until my senior year of high school, when I
completely just like, what the fuck is this all for?
Because I was so terrible in physics. I paid my
old a teacher I had in junior high I bartered
weed with him so he could buy me the teachers

(07:12):
addition to the physics textbook we were using in my
physics class, so I had all the tests. He's like,
you got a hook up. I got a hook up
exactly like you got that teacher's credential to buy like
teacher only texts that. Because my teacher was like he
did everything out of the workbook. I had that. And
then I started selling the quizzes and the tests to
other desperate honor students, and I had a whole racket going,

(07:33):
baby wow, And the Statute of limitations is over on
that I checked the weed to test result pipeline is definitely.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It's impressive. It Miles was much cooler than I was
in high school. Andrew, we're going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. Okay, first
we're going to tell the listeners a couple Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, you took a long pause there. Okay, Okay, you're in?
Is that okay with you? You're still in?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, We're gonna get to
know you a little bit better. Is that?

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Al right?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
The one thing is I'm really into consent and I
and I do consent, so yes.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Good wonderful.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're
going to talk about the James Comy prosecution. How how's
that case shaping up? Because you know, we talked, we
talked about how it looked a little suspicious that Donald
Trump sent out a tweet that was clearly supposed to
be a private message, and then the prosecution happened, and
everyone's like, this doesn't they don't.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Have a case, so to speak. So we'll just talk
about what, like, what we've discovered, what's the talking about.
We've been on Nobel watch.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
This week Nobel Watch. Donald Trump believes that he's about
to get the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't think anybody
else really thinks that that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
They've even said there was a headline like on Thursday
that or Wednesday that was like Nobel Peace Board. Is
like laughable that he thinks he's even anywhere close to
the Peace Prize.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Anyways, that country, Norway is very very scared now. They're like, oh,
he's gonna be mad at us.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
So about that.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
We'll talk about Jordan Peterson another This is deja vous.
Jordan Peterson almost died and nobody noticed again this summer.
That happened a few years back. But anyways, this is
somebody who I take all of my health advice from.
So interested to learn more there.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
What's going on there?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, we'll talk about AI and schools AI in Disney
movies and Disney the old urban legend that Disney will
not let somebody die in Disneyland, which it's.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Kind of an urban legend. And I was ready for
this one to have you ever known will die on
the physical premises, like get them the fu out of here.
Like it's like he's like, don't you brought the odie
bitch to my house. I don't want the oldie.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Bitch at my house exactly that that scene from pulp fiction.
So it it like seems like an urban legend. But
then the reason that people started saying this is so
fucked up that it's like, I guess, not.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Really an urban legend. I guess they kind of did
this at one point.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sure, all of that plenty more, But first, Andrew, we
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, I just, you know, speaking of cold mornings, I
was just looking up the first light for Los Angeles
because I'm a surfer.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I mentioned this last time.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think, and I often wake up at four in
the morning or to go surfing, and I.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Try to get over. I try.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I try to get there at the moment that the
first light hits the horizon, which right now is about
at five thirty am.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
So that is whimsical as fuck.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Andrew, You're having your best life.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm out there right right right.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I do it like one. So I would say, I
mean I started a couple of times a week, but
I would say once a week. I wake up at
at you know, four or four thirty, and I'm out
there in the water by five thirty. And then when
you out I surf for like two hours. I try
to say you two hours. So but it's pretty cool
to be because often if I get out there that early,
I'm the only one out there for like the first
twenty minutes. And and there I went, and it was
like a little too dark. I kind of didn't time

(11:02):
it properly, and I was like basically in pitch black
for like twenty minutes, and it was kind of big
waves and it was definitely a little scary.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, but it was really it was really nice.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Once the sun came up and then a couple more
people came out, it was like, yeah, it's really just
the most unbelievable way to spend the morning, to like
wake up with the sun on the ocean.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You turn to a fellow surfer and say, man, God,
sure had some paintbrush. You know.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's funny you say that because all all the pro
surfers are really into God, like true are They're all
really religious, and it's so strange, like like every pro
surfer like their their Instagram bio is like it's all
thanks to God and like really anything.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, they're all really religious. It's like Kelly and Ship
the only one I name.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I don't know what Kelly Slater, but like the woman
who's who's you know, arm got ripped off by a shark.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
She's quite famous, she's very cool. You can just like that.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Just anytime I see like a video of a surfer
on my Instagram, whatever, I click on their profile, it's
always something about God.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
There's like it's so interesting, like the idea that like
some people get really hardcore into nature and it's like
completely divorced from God, and then other people get really
into nature and it's like really find to God.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
And it's like.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
What what makes you go down one path versus another
when you get really into nature?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like thank you Jesus?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yea, yeah, it's like why is Jesus part of this?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
But anyway, so yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Acause you're feeling gratitude, you know, you.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Know, I usually hit the you know, the ocean from
five thirty to seven thirty and then church opens at eight,
so it's kind of perfect, perfect for me.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So it's kind of just lying like you're on that
Wallberg timeline. It might be only a matter of time
before you're up getting prayed up.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
The good Christ in the morning's next.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I like to have prayed three hours before anyone else
wakes up, so I'm so much better than them.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I get all his attention. God's right focuses on those.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
While you're sleeping, exactly, I'm shredding under God's watchful eye. Bitch.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, he's exhausted by the time you're praying. He's not
going to answer anything you're asking for.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
He's like these people again.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, it does remind me of the opening scene from Jaws.
Not that I hope that's not what's in your head
when you're going out there.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
But no, no, I don't think about it.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, what's something you think is underrated? Okay, I'm
as an adult. I'm trying to learn a new language,
which you know is something that I feel like you
kind of stop trying to do after you take, you know,
a second language in high school, Like I learned Spanish
and French and high school and college and I kept
up with those a little bit, but not too much.

(13:41):
But I'm just I like Japan a lot. I've traveled
to Japan many times. I think I mentioned on that
on the podcast before. And I'm trying to learn Japanese
and it's really, really, really hard, but I just feel
like I've always been interested in learning other language, and
I just have been like, oh, it's too hard, and
it obviously is, but I'm just like, you know what,
I'm going to do it. So I'm working on it
every day and it's been really fun.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Miles.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
You recently started taking lessons on du a lingo right
for Japanese.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm doing I've got a street going
about johan and you know about mi zoo and stuff.
Gohank Mizu no no no doabo? So did she went
to the Jimmy study to get in all that? Some
of that you're learning? That's awesome? How long?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, the due lingo. Okay, I'm forty one now, so
about forty one years since i was born. My mother.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
You're you're you're you're native Japanese, right yeah yeah the
kid yeah yeah yeah, yea yeah yeah lifelong yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
You were born here, You're born in America, but you
learn Japanese grown ank your baby, you know what I mean? Okay,
America a baby wow, my mom. Yeah, my dad also
his family was also brought over here many centuries ago
on boats, I believe for a timeshare tour that went
terribly wrong from Africa sixteen hundred just.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Three hour Yeah yeah, yeah, but that suckered into it.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
No, Japanese is great, I've yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Anyway, I'm like, not like you keep it up easy, yeah,
I mean because I have a I have a kid now,
so I'm speaking Japanese to my son all the time
because you're kids learning like being yeah, yeah, yeah, he
speaks Japanese because you know, like with my mom, it's
I was always I was talking about this with some
of my family or my in laws the other day.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It was like all my mom's friends are Japanese immigrants,
So when I would go hang out with my mom's friends,
I was always around just Japanese being spoken all the
time with my son. I'm really my mom and I
are really the only sort of like inputs for Japanese,
so like I have to try and really speak a
lot of Japanese and like also try and get them
to watch stuff in Japanese. I'm totally thankful for that. Later,

(15:48):
I definitely identify with the learning another language thing, because
like I have like la Spanish where it's like I
can get by, but I would love to like fully
communicate in Spanish, and I'm always doing the same thing.
I don't know, dude, it's probably I know it's.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
It seems so hard, it seems so overwhelming, but it's like, well,
you just have to start and then like make sure
you do it at least every day.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Have you got to Japan with your kid? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
one of the first times you're able to travel. I
went there, and now that he's like walking and talking
and like has like able to have memories, I'm like, oh,
we got to get you back there too. That's awesome. Yeah,
it's a great place. He's online, He's online everybody he
came online. We gotta get him over there. He tapped

(16:30):
into the world and immediately mm hmm. But yeah, learn
of me language.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's it's really overwhelming, but I think it's I don't know,
it feels like a good use of time.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
In your brain, yea, in your brain for sure, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I guess undeniably great.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
What is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I gotta say using AI for absolutely anything, I just
I just I have so many friends that use it
and they act like they need to, and I'm like,
what were you doing two years ago? You know you
could anything you can do, Like I've never used it
for anything.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I've never used at GBT.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm just like, because all I hear is how bad
it is, and then people I respect still use it,
And I'm like, well, if it's bad, but then you're
using it, Like I don't know, it just seems quite
easy to not use it if the consensus is in
that it's pretty bad for both the environment and people's jobs.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
And the future of the civilization.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Just as like I don't really see the positives, and
I feel like it's pretty easy to.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Do anything you need to do without it, right.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
It has maybe absolutely revolutionized the world of email jobs.
There's just meaningless emails that nobody has read, pinging back
and forth at an incredible rate, Like you could have
possibly read this in the time that it took you
to write this five hundred word response, geez.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
And every company, you know, every company is just like
trying to proudly tell you that AI is now part
of their shit, and it's just like, that's not a pot,
that's me, that's a negative.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's that's no, that's just them, that's them winking at
all the other investors who are over leveraged in AI
to be like, don't worry, we get it. We have
like enterprise, the enterprise use, the large scale business use
of AI is the like one of the few roads
to profitability for this thing. So they're like, don't worry, man,
we've got a lot of money in this too, investment.

(18:22):
We're going to try and make this shit seem like true.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Also, am I wrong in thinking that none of it
is actually even AI? It's just like predictive words or
is there stuff that is actually AI?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, it's what they've decided to call AI. Like there's
it's not AI.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
It's like it's not right, Like it's just what the
most likely next word is going to be, like a.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Large language model is like probably again, it's it's good
marketing because the idea. It's like it's artificial intelligence. It's no,
it's fucking auto correct, you know, right, It's like it's
still an algorithm.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
It's just that we're a little more the what's happening
inside the box is a little more mysterious. So we
call it AI, but I don't think it actually is.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a good trick that has
formed a lot of people, I think.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
But I think there was a thing that was going
around of like that, did you let David Simon quote
about AI? I wasn't sure if it was real or not.
You know, the guy created the wire, what was AI?
I mean a lot of people were posting and I'm like,
it's probably I mean, it doesn't didn't seem crazy, but
he was just sort of there's like an exchange with

(19:23):
like a Seeds being interviewed and it said or who
is it? It was our Shapiro, like on NPR in
twenty twenty three, and he said, okay, so you've spent
your career creating television without AI. And I could imagine
today you're thinking, boy, I wish I had that tool
to solve those thorny problems. David Simon, what Shapiro Shapiro

(19:46):
that says what fuck Shapiro saying or saying you? And
then David Simon cuts him off. You imagine that Shapiro
goes on, boy, if that had existed, it would have
it would have screwed me over, Simon. I don't think
AI can remotely challenge what writers do at a fundamentally
creative level. Marshabroke is on. But if you're trying to
transition from scene five to scene six and you're stuck

(20:08):
with that transition, you can imagine plugging that portion of
the script into an AI and say, give me ten
ideas for how to transition this, Simon, I'd rather put
a gun in my mouth.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
And you know, hopefully he puts his guns in that
in his mouth at Disneyland and is the first to
die there.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, it could be really cool. We'll see, really, we'll see.
They might have a time machine to prevent that.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
It reminds me of the conversation from Office Space where
he's like, does someone ever say you have a case
of the mondays?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
What ya? No?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Hell? Hell no, man, believe you get your ass kicked
saying that it's just like the least anyone has ever
gone with a.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Question what what? Well?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You know, I just imagine that's what you imagine? Also
got like some jewels from pulp fiction and the yeah, yeah, yeah,
you imagine is that? Oh so you have an imagination?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
What? All right? Well, we're gonna talk about AI later
and how it's.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Actually, I don't know if you've seen the latest Tron movie,
but it's pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Dude, I can't interest. I'm all in. You're all in.
You've always said sick dude, he's got away with words
and colds and coercion and stuff. All right, we're gonna
take a break.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
We'll be right back, and we're back' And so we
we do like to check in with the administration.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
We do little known factor.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
One of the one of the things that is giving
us a little bit of hope in the past couple
of weeks is this thing that people are calling a
designed incompetence I believe where it's that an authoritarian leader
will put people in power who suck at their jobs
because they know that they will be loyal to them,
like people who are unqualified will therefore be more willing

(22:09):
to do whatever the fuck they say.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
And that's that why you guys had me on the
show today.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
We didn't want to put it like that.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Is that why you asked me to do the episode.
The main thing we look for, you guess, is loyalty.
Loyalty and incompetence. Those are we like to have back
on on Fridays.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's right, But yeah, I mean like it is.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I mean, there's always stories that are just with ominous
headlines about the just toilet bowl trajectory of the country,
but there's always an undercurrent of total incompetence to this.
And obviously the MAGA movement is acting out its agenda
in real time without much resistance. But it seems that
in a lot of cases the biggest form of resistance
comes in the form of self owns, basically where they're like,

(22:54):
oh shit, we said that. Oh well, that that takes
out a whole legal argument we had.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
For something like the Democrat strategy is going into a
World Cup game, You're like, I hope they like get
as at least as many own goals as they score
goals on us. You know, that'd be sick. You guys
should try kicking it in your own one.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I don't know if we can just get them to
do a bunch of own goals though, then we don't
have to show up. But yeah, like sort of this
COMI trial, like you know, Trump wants to exact revenge
on the former FBI director because he wasn't a total pushover,
and we've spoken about how like numerous US attorneys refused
to work on this case specifically, or resigned to avoid
having to be like the lawyer who went to law

(23:37):
school and knows the law to be Like, yeah, so
I'm prosecuting this one because again the charges are fucking flimsy,
and we know they're bullshit. Because the prosecution only happened
after Trump did an oopsie and told the whole world
that he was directing Pam Bondi to go in like
go into like revenge mode and like, very Lohan, is

(23:58):
that a thing? Maybe, Okay, flipy, let's take that. We'll
take that. We'll take that, adding that to the record
for consideration, put that on the scrolls. But this whole,
the whole prosecution has been just a carnival of errors,
and every day we're learning something new. So like that
one truth social post, everyone's like that was supposed to

(24:20):
be like a text, right wait wait what yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Why did you just write a note to her saying
do illegal things in all caps?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
And what is known as a vindictive prosecution. We found
out that that was straight up meant to be a
DM and so you know, sorry about that. And again
that even that moment has given Comey's lawyers a chance
to have the case dismissed, like on the basis of
this being a vindictive prosecution, and they would be like,

(24:50):
I'm going to point to this post from the actual
President of the United States. But even then, right, even
if the trial goes forward in January schedule, the d
they still has to prove the case, which is again
that this is all about the Hillary emails and then
pretend that he essentially lied to Congress about authorizing a
leak to the press about the email investigation. And you know,

(25:12):
they were also under the clock to try and get
like get it under this before the statute of limitations
ran out. There's just like all these things are like
just fucking get it done. We have to fucking do
this now. And during this whole thing, like with the
build up to the Grand jury indictments, the reason this
was taking so long was the DOJ kept pointing out
that they have scant or even at just a kind

(25:34):
of evidence to try and get into a conviction with
much of this whole case hanging on one guy who
the DOJ themselves say he is problematic as a witness. O. Yes,
I'll read this quote problematic faith Daniel Richmond, a law
professor who who prosecutors alleged Comy authorized to leak information
to the press, told investigators at the former FBI director

(25:55):
instructed him not to engage with the media on at
least two occasions, and unequivocally said Comy never authorized him
to provide information to a reporter anonymously ahead of the
twenty sixteen on the election. That goes on to say
prosecutors at the DJA quote said, using Richmond's testimony to
prove that Comy knowingly provided false statements to Congress would

(26:16):
result in quote likely insurmountable problems for the prosecution.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
And they're still they're like, yeah, all right, full steam
ahead on this. I guess they were just.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
A case being brought by the person who like he
met at a party in mar A Lago. Yeah, and
she she was like an insurance She just had a
law degree and met Trump. Those are her two qualifications
for bringing this.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
And she was first to his side when the mar
A Lago documents thing happened. She's like, I'm here, I'm
a lawyer. I can help. And then she was put
on woke patrol at the Smithsonian and then now is
running an attorney at US Attorney's office without Senate confirmation,
by the way, which is also legally problematic for this
whole thing. And then that they just had a hearing

(27:02):
or an arraignment and she had to bring in two
attorneys from like the like the North Carolina US Attorney's
Office to help prosecute because she not know how to
do prosecute.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Right, she's not a prosecutor in any way.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
All the descriptions where she basically sat silently while the
other two lawyers were also kind of confused.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
They're like, ah, yeah, we're gonna need some time, your
honor to learn what this is about. So whatever Komi wants,
we're fine with as a timeline because we're also learning
what this made up laws that he learned.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
How bad this case is. Yeah, it's like a case
that would require the foremost attorney on the foremost prosecutor
like in this field to pull off. It's like it's
like they need miraculous brain surgery, and they're like, this
pediatrist went to medical school. Yeah, and we're gonna put
her in charge of kind of running the show.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, and you're going after someone who used to run
the US Attorney's office that Halligan is operating. That's James
Comy used to run that US Attorney's office at one point.
So it's just like it's all that they're completely out
of their depth. And I think that's like the one
thing is that there they still have to prove a case,
Like it's not just like they broke that. I'm sure

(28:15):
this will probably lead up with the frustration Trump has
just like create laws that they can prosecute people under
where you don't really need much evidence and be like,
well they violated that thing, which is being a hater,
so therefore goodbye. But yeah, I think this is like
one of those few stories that I read and I'm like,
oh my god, like some this is maybe this won't

(28:36):
be a total fucking clown show, just be a massive
waste of time. But again, these people are just you know,
they're tripping themselves up. Mmm.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, seems seems good for us, bad for them for
the moment, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Like it's a bit of light cope for your Friday morning.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's that's all we ask. That's all we can ask
from the news cycle. All right, Meanwhile, as we record
those just hours away from the announcement of the Nobel
Peace Prize, and it's probably not going to be Donald Trump,
which is the only I think this is the most
I've anticipated the Nobel Peace Prize before. This is usually

(29:17):
not a thing where I'm on the edge of my seat.
But people, Yeah, the Nobel committee was like what that
similar response to uh, to the question we were talking
about earlier, is like, what the fuck do you mean?
Why would no? Hell no, I wouldn't use a kick
for kick for suggesting he get a Nobel Peace Prize.

(29:41):
I feel like that tonally is very similar to how
the Nobel Peace Prize committee talks.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
But are they responding are they responding to like Trump's
administration saying something about it, or.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well he said it so much that like it's what
he expects that I think the mainstream media is like, so,
what's happening? Do you guys agree? Is this usually how
you'd like when somebody says frequently enough that they deserve
it and they're famous enough, is that usually how you
guys determine?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
That's how oscars go too, right, Oscars campaign. Whoever says
they deserve it, they usually get it.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, Unfortunately, this is where the incompetence cuts the other
way for the country of Norway, because the entire nation
is basically freaked out that he will punish them with
like tariffs and like hired NATO contributions or even declaring
Norway an enemy, which seems their right to be worried,

(30:39):
I would say, because that seems like exactly the sort
of shit that he would do. The Nobel Committee is
totally independent and not affiliated with the government in any way,
but nobody is sure that Trump can actually like make
sense of that.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I feel like is where we're at right and it's
like it's a powerful tool because like anyone who wants
to plate Trump is like, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna put his name in the hat.
I'm gonna nominate him if he gives me the thing.
I like, like Netanyahu said it, Zelenski, I think yesterday
was basically like, if he gives me Tomahawk missiles, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(31:14):
Like he's he's truly being like, here's the quid pro quo. Here,
you give me this, and I'll be like, yeah, dude, guys,
just give it to him, man, please, which is interesting,
like that's seems to be like one of the more
effective carrots that people are wielding right now, just because
his absolute nobel thirst.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I mean, if we can use his nobel thirst
to make him like not kill people, that would be cool.
Like that, Let's let's do it. Let's dangle that.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, the Nobel Peace Prizes is now used to inspire
peace in him. That kind of actually works in reverse.
He was the most peaceful. It kind of is like, hey,
we'll give you this, maybe you'd be a little peaceful
for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
What if we pretended you are peaceful and you pretended yeah,
would that be What if we did like.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
A little role playing game here, so like we're like,
here's the then what would you do in response to that?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Would you be like kind of chill? I guess I'm
kind of peaceful. Huh. I never thought of it that way.
I am called I don't be president anymore. I finally
ticked the final box. Yeah I can now finally, I
can now finally go up and as a beam of light.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, the Nobel Liberal Progressive Democrat Prize. We should
give that to Trump.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, His response I think would be like oh, then
I'll stop bombing Norway. Sir. You haven't bombed Norway yet.
I mean I would say, maybe, don't worry about that Norway.
Just you do what's meant to be done, because he'll forget.
That's true, that he will forget.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
He will if we only remember stuff Hillary Clinton and
Obama did to him or Biden. Who else is in
the running?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Oh Andrew, don't even get me started on all the
different candidates that we been tracking who are deserving of
the noble Like I I honestly.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I have no scientists or something.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, some fucking scientist or there are.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
A Gemini, Microsoft Gemini whatever that Gemini thing is.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I guess they said they were three two, three hundred
eighty three hundred and thirty eight candidates have been nominated.
So he was nominated just recently. But we yeah, a
lot of people because I mean again, that's the whole thing, like, yeah, yeah,
well we'll get behind definitely, definitely.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
What I can't believe there are other people nominated besides you.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's like what I'm asking, dog, what didn't you like
stop by seven thousand wars? Dude? And they didn't give
it to you? Oh? Crazy? All right, We'll we'll look
into that. We'll look into that.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
And then in self Care News Jordan Peterson, who is
like he's that that seems to be the main thing
I always hear for people, is like he tells people
how to live their life, right, Like, isn't that the
one he's like making He.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Certainly guides my life. I'll tell you that, right, I'll
tell you certainly guided by his principles.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
So I'm out there with the tip of the sun
peeking over the horizon, see the sky think.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
He yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But like the thing, the one piece of advice I've
always heard is like he tells young men to make
their bed and they're like, whoa, that's crazy, daddy, exactly,
Like right, he's just like taking advantage of people who
didn't have a good relationship with their dead.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
He's that's his thing. And also the carnivore diet, Like
does he meat bro right, and I'm going to lead
to any no health issues detected. Just take a bunch
of Benzo diaz of beans and eat red meat and you.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Will be your room bucco. And then he like starts
crying for some reason like that those that seems to
be an encapsulation of what I know of him. Anyways,
he keeps having like brushes with death that are like
kept a secret when they happen, and then after the fact,
his daughter usually is just like yeah, man, he was

(35:15):
real touch and go there. He was in the ICU
in this past summer and near death. Nobody knew the
cause was pneumonia and sepsis, which he also suffers from
chronic inflammatory response syndrome due to decades of mold exposure,
and his daughter claimed the new neurological issues are the
result of spiritual attacks.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's like, this isn't bullshit, right he because he's he's
always on a deathbed. I feel like he's like the
boy who cried deathbed and he's always like fine saying
like wacky shit. I mean, I don't doubt that his
carnivore diet plus Benzo's is equaling prime health. But it

(35:57):
feels like a bit of history because that video or
his daughter's like my father, she also has him body caated. Dude.
She's energy. She's like Canadian young Christy Gnome is what
she reminds me of. Like this is her very very vibes.
You know. Uh, this is just so you can hear

(36:17):
her be like, this is what we're up against.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Which is chronic inflammatory response syndrome due to decades of
mold exposed. You don't have a better explanation for his
neurological symptoms at the moment other than spiritual attacks.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Cool, spiritual attack. We don't have any other I mean
at this point.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Is that just criticism? Is that what we think spiritual
attacks is? Is people create negative retweet negative retweet.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, disagreeing with what he says, people analyzing my.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Father from people analyzing my father's words. So you're the
guy who says clean your room up. You've been exposed
to terrible mold.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
For it wants to toughen up. And also I have
filthy blood and like mold everywhere the decades.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, he does. He bring around like some old to
breathe into. He's like, give me my mold bag, like
out of that like.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Black ooze from Dune, just like the parking breath from
his old bag and goes back down.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I'm bringing up because at the end of the video,
she then like plugs the website to be like, hey,
you're not also like we can make money here, like
it was just like also like a long winded ad
where it's like you're bringing them in with Like she
also said like her baby had a heart attack or something,
and everyone's like this is all I was reading. Like
other people posted like who are into Jordan Peterson more?
And like he does this like every couple of years,

(37:45):
so like him or his wife or his kid or
the grandkid or something like they're always like.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Oh my god, Ken griff and sor.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah Ken grifty Junior. There it is all right.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, just wanted to mainly I bring it up, just
get get the prayers on for.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Just get through. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
We got to counteract the negative spiritual spiritual attacks obviously.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, yeah, exact we got a visual warfare. And you
think the doctor was like, I don't know, is it
the benzos and the red meat that's doing it?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay, this is a spiritual attacks now people, you can't
do benzos anymore as a spiritual attack.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
But during the pandemic superducer Victor, I think this is
right that he was like dying in Russia for a
while eating that his daughter was like at.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
The beginning of twenty twenty, he tried to get be
it put into a medically induced coma to kick his
Benzo addiction, and no doctor in America in their right
mind was going to do it. So he went to
Russia to do it, and then like when you got there,
like you got double pneumonia. And then he went to
like Belgrade or something, and then got COVID. In Belgrade,

(38:53):
he had a look. Yeah, some of us, we thought
we had a wild twenty twenty huh, Yeah he really did.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Anyways, you guys need to tough enough, not this guy.
You guys need to live healthier lifestyles and make.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Your Is that not?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
So he was in a coma? Is that why he
didn't post the Black Square in June? Because he was
he was in the coma. He was, obviously, and I
would have obviously would have been all over there and solidarity.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I did my white homework and I now see my ways.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
That's also why he wasn't in the imagined video, right,
because he got that email.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
But he was. Yeah, he wanted to do a different
song though he was insisted on.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
The gravitational force of the Lorne Michael's impression. By the way,
I'm like, yeah, I feel like he he is a
Lorne Michael's impression. I was listening to someone else doing
an impression of something, and it was just like, God.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Damn, that's Lorne Michaels.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's you can't escape the Lord Michaels impression.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Because it isn't like like doctor Michaels co. So yeah,
I wonder if it's like one of those things where
everyone's like, yeah, dude, like everyone's got there, like fuck
you lorn character they do ex so powerful. All right,
let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to
talk AI and we're back. We're back, We're back.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
And yeah, just a little check in with the kids.
With the kids these days, h this is this is
like where the AI stuff freaks me out, is when
it's just like, yeah, everybody's using it constantly in school
and it's most people are like, it's my best friend.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah. Yeah. This new survey just came out, you said,
nearly one in five high schoolers say they or someone
they know has had a romantic relationship with AI. Forty
two percent of the students in the survey say they
or someone they know have used AI for companionship. Five
seems like too much.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I mean, back in my day, you just your girlfriend
was a guy on a forty year old guy on
am you met you know, that's the way to do it.
You know this AI bullshit exactly, or you just use.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Your brain to make up somebody who went to school
in Canada or Texas that you will never be able
to meet, but you definitely we.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Did stuff over the So what is it is it
that they're asking the chatbot about like help with stuff?
And then how does it get like who takes it
to the level where it becomes romantic or flirty or whatever?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Is it? The kid? Is it?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
The is it the chatbot saying like oh, you're so smart,
like you must be handsome too, Like what is it
that's doing that?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
You know? It's like a flattery machine like that.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, I was just reading an article about its use
in like medical diagnostics, and it's like the the it
does like come up with the right answer some of
the time, but like sometimes it'll add like the doctor
will ask it to come up with a diagnosis, and
if it doesn't have enough evidence, it will just like
make up evident like it just it just it's a

(42:08):
yes and and flattery message. Yeah, where it's just like
it has a friendly vibe and it will like do
whatever it can to like kind of keep the ball.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
In the air, right And all right, mister p I've
consulted my AI system, and it looks like you are
being attacked by with spiritual attacks. Okay, has nothing to
do with your addiction. The addiction is actually what gives
you power. Yeah, according to this, yeah, it says am
I right, yeah, but yeah. Then they it goes on
to say like that there's a connection between a school's

(42:38):
AI use and a lot of these other outcomes. Says quote,
the more that the more ways that a student reports
that their school uses AI, the more likely there to
report things like I know someone who considers to be
AI to be a friend or I know someone who
considers AI to be a romantic partner because it's being
normalized in the school. And they also said that like,
schools that are using AI more frequently are more susceptible
to data leaks because you're giving it all kind of

(43:00):
information and it's just opening it up for any kind
of data leak exposure. And also apparently correlates with like
like there's a correlation with increased use of AI manipulated
slash generated images and videos to like sexually harass and
bully other students. And there's also another part of like
when a school has like devices they own to let

(43:23):
students use, like a computer or something they have like
AI tracking software on it to see like how kids
are using it, and those like monitoring software like that
monitoring software has led to like false alarms or even
like in the worst cases, like arrests based on AI hallucinations,
and they're like what, yeah, fuck is this? Yeah, so

(43:43):
it's just kind of a it's it seems like it's
it's all tied together and makes things worse. And then
apparently there's another part of it too that students like educate.
This is from the NP article quote. Educators who frequently
use AI were more likely to say that technology improves
their teaching and saves them, but students in schools where
ai us is prevalent but reported higher levels of concern

(44:04):
about the technology, including that it makes them feel less
connected to their teachers.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, it's it's like a really powerful tool that even
doctors don't quite know how to use yet without having
it like make shit up, maybe don't need to kill
the patient. And yeah, like it it makes everything seem easier,
feel more seamless, and it sometimes like fucks things up catastrophically,

(44:31):
like people use it to like diagnose themselves. And like
one person in this article I'll link off too, and
the New Yorker was like talking about how like they
were trying to get a lower sodium diet and the
AI recommended like switching out salt for like a different
chemical compound that is poisonous. Oh my god, I had
to go they almost die, They almost like poison themselves,

(44:53):
like had to go to the emergency room.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Well yeah, I mean I think fundamentally it makes things
easier because it's not concerned being correct.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Right, I mean, keeping you talking to it totally.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Things are hard because the answers for problems are sometimes
not very clear. And when its entire goal is to
give clear answers independent of whether or not they are right,
then it's obviously gonna seem easy. It's like, oh, that's easy,
but it's like, oh, but that's actually not effective.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, to to our point about Jordan Peterson, like I'm
pretty sure there was a case where an AI like
people were having conversations with an AI being like I'm
trying to get over addiction issues, shouldn't I do like
little cocaine to make myself feel better, just to like
get through this. And I was like, yeah, obviously it
will agree with you to death. It's like makes you, yes,

(45:45):
you to death.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Cocaine makes you the person we all knew you could be, dude, exactly.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
It just takes your pre pre existing like the thing
you want to believe, and we'll just like keep going
and going.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Well.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
AI is probably the only entity that enjoys talking to
someone who's high on cocaine.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
Yeah right, it's you're awesome. You're awesome right now. Everything
you're saying is so smart and cool. The AI is like, dude,
you're giving me ideas that the AI on.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Well, but I also.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Was reading something I think maybe it was This American
Life or something I listened to. Maybe you guys heard
it as well, where it was like, you know, it
was like convincing some guy that he's like a mathematical genius.
Like it like it flatters you to the degree that
you live in this fantasy world where you're like, oh
my god, I'm coming up with theories no one has
ever come up with, because the AI is just like
trying to tell you you're cool. And you're good when in

(46:39):
reality it's all just like a fake, weird fantasy world
that like is playing in at people's delusions.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
I think that the funniest way I've seen it uses
someone use it to do improv with it, and I.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Know I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah yeah,
really cringe, And.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
It was just kind of like, wow, this is wild,
but also like hey, you know, had some good responses
at least that were quick. Kept this kept the scene going.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, I've seen that. It's it's a dark as a
dark future there.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's I think the one thing it seems
fun to the people it's it is kind of like
drugs in that it's fun for the people using it,
and the people use it or like oh my god,
this is like amazing, and then like the actual results
are not good, Like they might be good temporarily, but

(47:27):
then it ends up like going not it's not as
good as it seems to you in the moment. Right.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
It's like taking taking a picture of what you're seeing
when you're on mushrooms ain't gonna come out the way
that you remembered it.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
You know, look at these thirty pictures I took of
the moon was right, Jesus focus, Yeah, I meant that
to do that? Or is that a street light? I
get you can't actually tell?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
All right, well, everybody like, I mean, it's being injected
in the bloodstream from angle and so it's only a
matter of time until they start making movies where AI
is the hero. And by only a matter of time,
I mean this weekend, Disney is releasing the third installment

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in the Tron series, which began back in nineteen eighty two,
thirteen years man Scream the first.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I've been I've been out since Tron two waiting for three.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
They dropped the Tron two on RS in twenty ten, like,
and nobody was asking for it and nobody like. The
response was like.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
That's all right, I'm good, No, yeah, yeah, it looks
like yeah, I can see how Like why you guys
are you know.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
That's pretty coo?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah. No, the lights are cool, for sure, for sure,
the lights are cool. It's like screensaver vibes, like really
cool screensaver. We're just like, I don't know if I
want to see a whole movie like that, And they're like,
did you hear that? We should make a third one
Chris So, uh, so we're getting tron aries, which critics
are calling mind bendingly dull. Fuck they they had for

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the first like handful of.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Its pretty good. Yeah, the people do.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
They did get nine inch Nails to do the soundtrack,
and people do seem to like that. So it's it's
getting bad reviews and those bad reviews are inflated by
a good soundtrack. Yeah, which that's tough. The basic premise is,
what if AI was Jared Leto except okmatic, no no, no no,

(49:41):
but our version, the film executives version of Jared Leto.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Okay, Miles earlier, you're saying you can't you can't get
enough at Jared Leto ship you love us.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I know, I know, I go, I go back and
forth on him.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I'm into I'm into basically everything Jared Letto except for
the allegations. But everything else, I'm super into everything. But
the aegis right, So I don't fuck with you.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I don't fuck with the first time I'm saying this,
But separate the art from the artist, I do. I
do demand we do it with Leta.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
But yeah, so let's just quickly go through these allegations.
He was accused of quote predatory, terrifying, and unacceptable behavior
towards underage girls. That was all the way four months ago.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Oh fuck, four months This is another I remember like
a few years just happen. Every time it happens, I'm like,
I thought this already happened, and we all agreed he
was bad, but it's like it doesn't really seem to stick.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Seems to be a pattern of people alleging that when
they were sixteen years old, he would approach them, be like,
how old are you? They'd be like sixteen, and he's
thirty six at the time and is like cool, perfect,
and then would start corresponding with them on email. I
feel like there's another word for that, yeah, growing groom.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Now, that's the word for like people from Mary Brothers.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I don't know, grooting, and I am groot, I am groot,
I am groom, I am groot, I am groom.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And and you know, would float like when they turned eighteen,
would try and initiate something. In some cases, sometimes you
wouldn't wait for that. One of the people that he
just approached on the street when they were sixteen was
invited to stay at his house and he walked out
of a room completely naked when she was seventeen years old. So,

(51:33):
just like a lot of the many allegations coming out.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
What's wild is that, like that same woman said when
she turned eighteen, then he was like pulling his dick
out in Master Babs.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Pulling his dick out and yeah, yeah, so he is anyway,
he's AI. So also we do we should just those
thirty seconds to Mars fan retreats that I don't know
if you've seen the pictures that they look like stills
from Midsommar oh No.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Which is a bunch of young girls and stuff. Everybody's
in white there. It does seem it's like all kinds
of many. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily seem to be like
limited to one age group. It's anyone stupid enough to
want to do this.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
He would reportedly hold contests that those retreats where in
which the prize was literally sleeping in his bed with him.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, Yepkay thirty seconds to
eighteen Yeah, holy shit, that's an space.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Okay, So let's put all that aside. Jack, I'm trying
to be in the role of a Disney executive here.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Put that. Put all that aside. Now, what's the movie about?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
The movie is actually pretty cool the trail. I don't
know if you saw the trailer. I did see the
trailer before one battle after another on an Imax screen
and I was like, whoa, those those lights are cool looking.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
That's how they recommend watching the trailer.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yes, the villain is a billionaire tech ceo who wants
to three d p AI super soldiers. The hero is
a billionaire tex ceo. Okay, so different billionaire text message
wants to use AI as a force for good. At
one point, the good billionaire tech ceo played by Greta Lee,

(53:17):
for some reason, questions if the AI is made, what if.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
The AI is major malfunction? Is just benevolence? Like what
about that? Though?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Which goes perfectly inline with all the stories we're hearing
about AI.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Wait, why did you say? Greta? For some like, what's
what's wrong with her plan?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I just wish she was No, I mean, she she's great,
and I just wish this.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Wasn't the movie that.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Oh she's having to be in the get your bag?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, I don't you know if you're her manager you say, hey,
I don't know, maybe we can. I don't know if
this is the one we need. It's probably which this
wasn't the project, but you know it sucks though too.
It's like you have like women of color in the movie,
but then fucking Jared Leto's in it, and then watch
people aren't gonna go and then they're gonna blame Greta

(54:05):
Lee and they're not gonna blame that, like the Disney
for casting Jared Leto in it, you know what I mean.
But you like, go woke, go broke, rather than like
we kept this a guy of dubious moral character as
like the lead or one of.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Them, and they keep trying to make it like what
was the learning from Morbius? People are like people just
aren't Morbin. I guess I don't know, Like the.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Kids just say Morban like they used to.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Man, okay, so you got the two billionaires, what what
happens then?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
They so Jared Leto is like AI that escapes. It's
like what if AI have human body? And then what
if AI? You know, the world of Tron is like
computer programs, like it already presupposes like computer entities with cognition,
So I don't even know like how this adds anything,

(54:58):
but the overlay is just like the good guy is
an AI. Basically yeah, that's like that other there was
that other movie, was it?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
J Low? I remember watching what that Netflix one that
was one of the early ones when it was about
like if until we embrace Ai, like the whole sort
of moral story. The arc was like until she embraced Ai,
she couldn't live to her full like world saving potential,
and you're like, Jesus, get out of here. So this
one is just more just like see tech CEOs are good.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah, and like Variety has a weird half of them
are good half a yes, half are good though half
are good.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, we just need the good tech ceo, Like do
we not like him anymore?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
This is from the Variety the Revieted Variety review, which,
as as we've talked about, Variety was the one that
was like Sinners may look like a.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Hit, but not so fast. Yeah, not so fast. Ryan
Coogler is black. Wow they really wrote that shit in there. Huh.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Other review of this compared with such a trite fear
of where technology is taking us. The second theory is
a refreshing alternative to the kind of anti innovation hysteria
that fuels so many sci fi movies. What if AI
could actually be a force for good or is MCom
CEO Eve Kim Greta Lee puts it, what if it's
major malfunction?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It's just benevolence.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
So they're like fully on board variety, which makes sense
because they're, you know, part of the industry. But this
makes sense, like, it makes sense that they would try
and create a work of like pro AI propaganda. Disney's
alread announced its intention to use generative AI in quote
upcoming movies and TV shows, and at one point tron

(56:40):
Areas was going to include an AI generated character who
would have been Jeff Bridge's sidekick. But then they're like,
we had to scrap that plan because we were worried
about bad publicity. I guarantee if it was cool and
didn't suck shit, they would have included it, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it must Yeah, don't worry forget the
bad publicity about already doing like AI apology and being like,
this is actually really good for everyone, This is the
way forward.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
That's not the bad look at all. It stuck in
cases didn't look bad enough. Elon Musk gave the trailer
his endorsement, and then one of his Tesla Optimists AI
Robots just walked the red carpet at the movie's premiere
and then it pretended to spar with Jared Leto that
that was the thing that actually has.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Served him a subpoena for a lawsuit or not. Just
was it doing kung fu like the last time we
saw that Optimist robot? Yeah exactly, Hell yeah, oh robots,
same fucking choreography that we saw in that one video,
and they're trying to make it seem like this fucking
thing was a real let me see here. Wait, it
is kind of doing the same stuff.

Speaker 9 (57:48):
Yeah, dude, I almost want to side by side the
video that we saw when Elon said this thing was
doing kung fu.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Okay, this is so dumb and this sucks shit. Jesus Christ, dude,
what is wrong with us?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
It's really fucking already and is dying watching that? Also,
I think last time I said it looked like a
forty five year old trying to do kung fu, it
looks like a seventy year old try. Yeah, Like it's
not not steady on its feet in any in any way.
And Jared let no steak in AI either, right. Yeah,
so Jared Leto also a producer on tront Ari's and

(58:29):
uh an investor in two generative AI companies.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
So really, Wow, I didn't know that you're not gonna
ship where you eat? Huh? All right? Wow? Okay, okay, cool,
cool cool. It's funny too because I've seen the reviews
have been really split and not really based on like
the morality of it or anything. People were just like
it looks really cool, and other people like just think
it's fucking so bad. So I wonder how much I

(58:53):
wonder how how the public will decide with their ticket
buying this weekend where they end up. I just also,
I don't even know wallets as I didn't even know
this was coming out until like last week. I saw
someone was like, oh god, I think also because I'm
just not I'm not being exposed to like marketing campaigns

(59:13):
on TV as much as they used to be.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
But you're also not as deep on the Jared Letto
reddit forum as I am, because we've been for years.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Once they kicked me out as a mod, I was like, yeah,
you were over. This place has gone woke.

Speaker 9 (59:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I'm out of here is upon us.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, Andrew, is such a pleasure having you as always
on the dailyes like geist, where can people find you?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Follow you? All that good stuff, love, love to be here.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Always a blast, and it seems like the news is
just getting better and better, and I'm so glad that
the world is going in the right direction and it's
nice to recap that with you boys most a while.
My name is Andrew Mahan m I H A A,
and I'm on Instagram and Twitter, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I have a podcast called podcast but Outside.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
We interview strangers on the Sidewalk, and I know I
said that I want to get you guys on. I
have not recorded in LA since I did this show
last because I have a backlog of episodes, so you
are first on my list when I start recording again.
And yeah, we interview strangers on the streets. Some past
recent episodes, I had Gian Marco Sorasi on that was
really fun, Lisa Gilroy. Those are both really good episodes
and we just interviewed strangers about their lives and it's

(01:00:26):
always different and fun. And you can check that out
on YouTube and podcast apps and social media as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
So do you have a favorite geographic location to interview strangers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I I did do it, and I did do a
couple episodes in Japan, and that was really fun to
be in a different, different, different country doing that. And uh,
it was hard to get Japanese people to sit down.
We mostly talked to tourists, but it was still fun
to just be in a different environment. And I did
one in I did one in Paris with my girlfriend
that was really really fun. Outside of a that has
has not come out yet, but that one was really
fun as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Oh shit, Okay, yeah, man, is there a work a
media besides tron areas that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I mean, every season I watch The Love Is Blind
and every season I say I'm done, but they just
keep sucking me back in. Right now, you can the
new divers one that came out last week Denver. Yeah,
I Love is Blind Denver. By the way, Having grown
up in Colorado, I took one look at the cast
before they even said it, I said this is Denver,

(01:01:24):
and I was right, what do you mean? Just vibe?
I was like, these people feel like they're from Denver.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I just I just could. I just got it. I
just got it right away. How would you describe that
vibe as someone who, because like, when you say that
to me, it's almost like they feel like AI creations,
like where they're vaguely unique.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
They're like they're like kind of they're like they're all
like fit, they're like clearly outdoorsy. They're all super basic.
But a couple of them are like trying to be
edgy and have tattoos. Like it's like, yeah, it's like
very basic kind of yeah, middle of the road people
who a couple of them are like, I'm gonna be
slightly edgy and actually quite a boring one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Well, what's my perfect sunday getting on my bicycle and
going getting up at least six breweries?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very very brewery coded for sure.
But yeah, the show. The show bothers me every season,
but I always keep watching it. I just can't stay away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I watch it because I love seeing how unwell these
people are that they fall in love with someone through
a wall, and I'm like, you guys are a mess,
and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Kind of gunny, This could be kind of interesting if
I do like a collaboration with an AI company.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Where one one person on either side is just AI
and no one and no one has told that and
they can get them to fall in love and just
like that would be really interesting. It feels like kind
of sh It feels like some Jenny Jones ship where
like the person who's like the subject of it ends
up like becoming a tragedy for them, like because they
were really culed after that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Or we could just have the entire all the women
are like all one side is all Ai and all
the guys are fighting over his Ai girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Now, that's a good idea for the shore. They have
to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I gotta I gotta contact Netflix before this episode comes
out tomorrowco this has a good idea, right exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
You really thought she had an encyclopedic knowledge of NFL
quarterback status an idiot. That's really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Miles, where can people find you? Is there a workimedia
you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
She said the New England Patriots were her favorite squadron. Anyway,
you find me everywhere at Miles of Gray, find me
talking about for ninety on four to twenty day fiance
work a media? I like, yeah there was some here.
Let me just pull this up the old thing here first,
I got I got two. First one is from at

(01:03:51):
Oregon the d MP's got a social posted a TV
shows dropping all at once ruined community building, And I
thoroughly agree because when everyone had a week to watch something,
it gave everybody to kind of watch at the same
pace and keep talking about it. And then at Roger
dot bskuid dot social posted you've got to admit it's
very convenient that one hundred miles an hour is basically

(01:04:12):
the upper limit for how fast humans can throw baseballs,
pretty much the best argument against the metric system. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
It does seem do we back into miles per hour
based on how fast people could pitch baseballs? Where we're like,
all right, so one hundred is the upper limit, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
We'll use those like zero is freezing point. You're like, yeah, exactly,
let's work from there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
You have a special connection with the metric system or
because or with the US system because your name is Miles.
Like does that kind of do you feel like miles
is more is better to you in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Some weird way? No? No, no, not at all. I
used to like self hate there. Yeah, I don't. We
can get into it. Maybe you can have you on
your podcast. We can dive pretty. I was, no, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I've seen some TV shows recently talking about the first
tweek where they at least all at once, but then
they also do it weekly on TV, and it's like, like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
This is I think.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
I think I think a show is coming out right now.
I think that if I if I read it read,
if I read it properly, I think they English Teacher
Season two all came out of Hulu at once, but
then weekly it's on FX, which just is so busign.
You can't have it both ways. That's maybe I'm wrong
about that, but that's how I read it, and I
was like, no, I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Mean, I'd also believe it for people to be like,
maybe were gonna have like a hybrid release model, right,
that's so weird, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o
Brian on Blue Sky at jack ob the Number One.
I'm starting to read the Percy Jackson series of books
to my kids for bedtime stories and we're enjoying that.
So any parents got any recommendations for bedtime stories they're
around that level, hit me up. You can find us

(01:05:52):
on Twitter at Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeikeeist
where at the daily Zekeeist on Instagram. You can go
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and there at the bottom you will find the footnote no,
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about in today's episode. We also link off
to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles,
is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, there's a Dallas based producer named Eisenberg. I s E.
N b Erg. This is like a drum and bass track.
I'm about to start playing skate for because all of
the gameplay foot and like, this is so absurd that
I have to start doing it. But I always like
to listen to drum and bass when I mean like
open worlds like that, if it's like Spider Man or

(01:06:34):
something I can move quickly through. I'm for whatever reason,
drum and bass hits my brain. And this is a
track called Bowlero dub and keen. Eared hip hop fans
might recognize the loop a fiasco kick push sort of
like brass sample sort of being like underpinning this drum
and bass track, But I don't know. Fun listen, I
enjoy nodding my head to it bowlero dub by Eisenberg.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
All right, we will look off to that. In the
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