Saint Ghislaine?! Marx’s Theory Of Bore-out 07.25.25

In episode 1903, Jack and Miles are joined by adult film star, activist, host of the upcoming 12-hour live-stream extravaganza Corn Telethon, and host of First Thirst, Siri Dahl, to discuss… Saint Ghislaine of Maxwell, Trump Is In The Files, They Keep Coming Up With Alternative Definitions of WORKER ALIENATION, Has Hollywood Made A Single Good Movie About The Pandemic? And more!

1. Saint Ghislaine of Maxwell
2. Burchett dismisses Trump being friends with Epstein: "It's just like me. I know a lot of dirtbags myself."
3. House Republicans back Epstein subpoena
4. House panel votes to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton over possible links to Ghislaine Maxwell
5. Swallowing Reservations, Democrats Go On Offense on Epstein Files
6. They Keep Coming Up With Alternative Definitions of WORKER ALIENATION
7. Eddington is a political satire by horror auteur Ari Aster. But is it also a western?
8. Covid, social media, Black Lives Matter: Ari Aster’s Eddington takes 2020 on and mostly succeeds
9. Eddington: Western Noir Chaos Made Boring
10. 5 Years After COVID-19, Eddington Is The Best Pandemic Movie We've Gotten
11. Hollywood loves a world-shaking disaster – so why is it still silent about Covid?
12. For This Sex Satire, the Pandemic Built a Perfect Set
13. How Pandemic Isolation Inspired Zach Dean To Write Scott Derrickson’s Genre-Bending Thriller ‘The Gorge’
14. Danny Boyle and Alex Garland on '28 Years Later' and how COVID influenced long-awaited sequel
15. The spectacular frenzy of 28 Years Later offers a new breed of pandemic storytelling

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Did you have that moment in school when they talked
talked about the resurrection or the crucifixion, and you go, dude,
why didn't you just fight everybody if he has all
these superpowers? I remember we had a discussion like that
in my grade school because we're like, yo, couldn't he
just like fuck everybody up?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Not in like Sunday school.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
And like, well, because I went I went to a
Lutheran school and I wasn't. I didn't. I'm not my
parents aren't religious, So like I'm learning all this shit
in school and I'm like, what, dude, you guys just
said he had all these like superpowers. And they're like,
how come you didn't stop that, Like, couldn't just say no.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
There are these things called the Gnostic Gospels that were
in the Bible for like when the Bible was first
being written and then got edited out, and in those
Jesus has like legit superpowers. Like one time when he's
a kid, he just like kills somebody with the wave
bell him like fucking you know, he's in slip or something,

(01:01):
and I think, yeah, he can do like ship And
I feel like they might have edited those out because
otherwise it doesn't like make sense later when he can't
when he chooses not to fight back, you know what
I mean, So they just keep his things more like
magiciany like as opposed to like, hey, what's some more

(01:22):
for fished?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Just like a fun party guy more food and water
based superpower is just like throwing sick parties.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
They brought a guy back from the dead, you know
what I mean. They're like, we'll talk about that part
too well.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
And he did do that to himself. So he's like
kind of you know, keeps it. He can't remember the
teacher saying it's like, well did he actually die? If
he was, I'm like, I don't know, dude, this doesn't
sound believable. If this guy has these powers, he's gonna
let him. They're gonna let him, nail him up, they
get out of here. That's same when he shows up
to the Disciples, It's like, I can't kill my ass.

(01:57):
Thought they could do it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Couldn't be boys, back, your boys back? Where are we
going tonight? I'll bring the wine yo. Where Mary Magdalene at?
Where my girl at?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
There she is, all right, We're ready. We got good ratios.
Now when we go to the club, Hello.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
The Internet, and welcome to season three ninety eight, Episode.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Five of der Daily Night Guys. This is a production
of My Heart Radio as a podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Were taking deep dive into America, share consciousness and miss
Friday Day, July twenty fifth, five.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes, it's National Wine and Cheese Day, National Hire Veteran Day,
National how Much Sunday Day, National Merry go Round Day,
National Thread and Needle Day, National getting gnarly Day, Dude
nar gna r dag, National talking an elevator and I
don't do that, man, nobody wants to talk to you
in an elevator. And System Administrator Appreciation Day. Thank you
to all the people who will do system admin.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Work admin them system Yeah, thank you. How such Sunday
merry go rounds? I hate hot hot fudge tastes like shit.
It goes bad quickly. It gets gloppy, like its natural
state is way too gloppy. That's a very good one.
I do prefer a Hershey's syrup Sunday Sunday.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Basically, ten times out of ten, you're putting a thing that,
when it's not hot, gets gloppy onto a thing. Yeah,
immediately glops it up. Yeah, you fuck hot fudge Sundays.
Just marry go rounds in this house. Yeah, exactly. My
name is Jack O'Brien aka Epstein's World. Saw the footage

(03:39):
of you leering at girls.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You absolutely sent that creep.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Be card convincing maga is gonna be so hard a
bridge too far?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
You're in Epstein's World.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
That one courtesy of the Hacker less than zero the Discord.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
The Hacker Bros three r oh he when he posted
that I'm in and then posted it like yeah, no,
I know you're I know, we know you're You're a
member of the Discord for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,
mister Miles Gray Gray.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
AKA because who can snort it like Keith? Nobody?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Who can smoke it like Keith?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Nobody? Who can slam age all nine long? Keith Richard's
baby shout out to Sherry Boyd or Sherry Bird my bad.
I'll hit me up on Twitter with this wonderful Keith
sweat tuned aka talking about who can snort it like
Keith Richards because obviously Ozzie couldn't hang. Ozzie couldn't hang

(04:45):
Keith Richards.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Come on, who can snort it like Keith.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
With Sherry, he's just not a greedy like the rest
of them, exactly like some cocaine, not all a cocaine.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And I have money for good cocaine, you know what
I mean. Try here's a note, Try good cocaine.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, maybe stop seeing.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
That, you know what I mean? Yeah, that crog cane,
you know what I mean. I hope a lot of
people with addiction problems didn't read that book and be like, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
All right, it's John. I got it in their little book.
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by an adult film star, content creator, powerlifter activist who
hosts the very fun podcast First Thirst, where guests talk
about their first pop culture crushes. Please welcome, siride.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Welcome, Welcome, I.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Am welcome, ye to have you here.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh, thank you for joining us on this terrible, terrible podcast.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's great to have people. Yeah, sure, notes are yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Thank you. Thank you for being honest. We appreciate that.
We just we spend a lot of times talking about you,
A lot of time talking about it just comes up randomly.
I think it's so absurd to me.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
It's absurd, and we both up just like the story
Jesus the Man, Jesus the Magician, it is, Yeah, I
mean's a heroin addict.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, you know that famous poster where the guy's shooting
Heroin but it's Jesus's arms.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I bet he had like some Keith
Richard's level tolerance. You know, he was like, imagine, slam
it in there real quick.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You just can't hang here. It's like a joint once
and he's a fucking mess.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Are you mad at me? You guys like my dad? Yeah,
he's like a lot of people who really like to drink,
you know, but they take one hit and they're like, God,
everybody's talking about me, right.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, Siri, who was your first pop culture crush?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay? I have a couple, but I like the one
I like to throw out is it's really like the
first memory I have of having a very strong, like
attraction like crush feeling as a as a young and
as a literal child, and it's I'm sorry, it's very
very hyper specific. So in the movie Hook Yes, starring
Dustin Hoffman and Robin Williams, there's a scene when Robin Williams,

(07:11):
who plays you know, Peter Panning, he's like Peter Pan,
but he left Neverland, so he actually did end up
turning into it adult anyway, he goes back to Peter
grown ask Peter Pan played by Rob Harry.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Than I thought was going to grow up to be
those knuckles.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
There's a scene where he like drops a ball into
the water and he goes to like get it out
and he like leans over. He's in Neverland at this point,
or he's like, I don't really remember exactly. The contact
is earlier in the movie. He leans in to get
this ball out of the water, and instead of his
adult self reflected back at him, it's like Peter Pan

(07:47):
like him when he was a kid as Peter Pan,
that's the reflection looking back at him. And uh, and
that was the kid that played the Peter Pan reflection.
He shows up like one other point like in the movie.
But for some reason, it was the reflection in the
scene that like was the one that got me. And
I would the VHS tape that we had because second

(08:08):
it's not even it's like maybe two seconds shot of
this kid. And I found out, like I talked about
this on my podcast in one of the earlier episodes,
and I found out in that conversation that the child
in that scene is Dustin Hoffman's actual son, who's like
in his forties, was twelve when they filmed it in
the early nineties. And yeah, just like five, six year

(08:30):
old me was just like absolutely had the hots for this.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
This did add to our Rocky four tape home VHS
cassette because there was a part like during Apollos, like
the dance before the thing, where like a butt is
shown very briefly, and six year old me was going
back and forth over that way too much.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
But jo, wait, this guy's got dreadlocks now every yeah,
Maxwell Hoffman, Yeah, it is dreadlocks now white guys? No, yeah,
right right, just chilling white o ever gonna like stop?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh this is from twenty sixteen, so maybe he probably
learned if he had him after twenty twenty, I'd be like, bruh, yeah,
I mean even twenty sixteen, you should be knowing better.
But okay, hey, all right, Maxwell, The question are.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
White people ever gonna stop? Is such a good, just
broad historical question. It's like it's like that sweet where
someone was like fortunately Lebron's thirty This madness will soon
be over and then for ten years later. Are white
people ever gonna stop? I'm sure people have been saying

(09:48):
that since the sixteen hundreds, Well for a fourteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, let's say fourteen ninety two. We can probably say
around there, that's y.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, Are they ever gonna just fucking give you
the rest? All right, Miles, I guess we need to
hear your pop culture crush your first.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh man, I was just thinking. One of the first
people I was really obsessed with was Jennifer Connolly in Rocketeer.
The Rocketeer.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh interesting.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I don't think I first saw The Rocketeer as a kid.
I could. I don't know why that was like that
was me.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Maybe because she's one of the most beautiful human beings
in the history of Earth.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Maybe it could be. And then after that it was.
And then then I had that I was like I've
mentioned that before. When Tyra Banks showed up on Fresh Prince,
I was a fucking I was gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was melted, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
All right, So we're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
We are going to talk about the urge right now
that is happening to rehab the image of Gilaine Maxwell.
Yeah yeah, like scenes like fellow child trafficker.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes, yes, yes, her, she might be she might be
a victim is what people are now saying in many
ways the on right wing news.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
So uh so we'll talk about that wind up, we'll
talk about whether the Democrats are going to fuck us up,
how they might fuck it up. We will talk about
the new the new craze and worker alienation. It's called
it's called bore out, and it's affecting many young people

(11:35):
who hate their job for some reason. So we'll talk
about that. We'll talk about there's a new pandemic movie,
the ari Astor movie. This one will not stick in
my head.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Eddington Eddington, Eddington, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that that movie's out.
We're just going to talk about I haven't seen Eddington
a reader jam so I didn't love it, but just
curious that there's not more like pandemic content just writ
large across the history of art. So we'll talk about

(12:08):
that and what what movies do kind of make sense
when they bring it up, and what movies have not
all of that plenty more. But first, Siri, we do
like to ask our guest, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
My search history? Oh god, I have to actually go.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Look at it. Huh yeah, yep, ever look at that.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't even know where to find that.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
So okay, you sound like like Pam Bondy at the
DOJ with I don't even look.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
At it history. Oh, there we go, there's the show
full history. That's okay. I mean, I've spent a lot
of energy searching for recipes for sourdough pizza crust recently
because I got a pizza oven for my birthday and
oh nice, an outdoor pizza oven. And I I've lived

(13:01):
in LA since September, and what I've learned living here
is that there's not very good pizza in LA. And
even when I find pizza that is acceptable, it's not
the style that I like, which is interesting sour dough crust.
So so now, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Got I got coming from New York. Where are you
coming from?

Speaker 6 (13:24):
Louisville, Kentucky, louis before I lived Yeah, there's a jack
you know a little bit about Louisville.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
There's a place called Pizza Loopo there that it like,
I don't even have words to describe how good it is.
It's so good. If anyone listening to this or any
of y'all ever find yourselves in Louisville, Kentucky, pay Pizza
LOOPO is it.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
And not Louipo Loopo because I know that Louisville is Louisville.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Their logo is like a wolf with pizza teats getting
his pizza teats suckled.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh okay, got it. I was like, I was curious.
I'm like, we're doing a Romulus remis pizza tea. Yeah,
the classic Romulus remis pizza teath motifiz are the teeth slices? Slices?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I was just trying to make sure. I'm just can visualize.
So are what comes out of a pizza teeth?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Is it just sauce? Or is it like a whull
like mixture of pizza that has somehow been liquefied.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I feel like one dispenses hot honey and the other
dispenses melted mozzarella.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh interesting, I was thinking of like sort of never
ending pizza slice that every nibble you take it, just
reach it, just keep like like it's as beautiful.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's really fun.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Actually, you know, I'm really into mythology, so I'd like
to really take time sort of sort of storyboar, like
what is the mythology of?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
And then it's just like kind of growing in front
of you exactly exactly, which like sounds like it would
be difficult from a physics perspective, but you know what
so is like just milk being made in there like that.
That is wild. That's a very strange thing that happens.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Wait, so what where have you been in La where
you're like, bro, this pizza fugus sucks that people have
told you.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So well, just most of the pizza places that are
just around and I live. I like, I'm in the valley.
So granted, you know, valley not known for its like
culinary advancements.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Good ty food. We got good Tay food in the veal.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
There's plenty of amazing food. I am being Yeah, that's
why I'm very specifically calling out the lack of like
good pizza. It's like it's like it I will say,
I haven't really had pizza that's like horrendously disgusting, but
like it's just all of it's like very mid And
then the couple places that people recommend to me that
they're like, well, okay, if you're that bougie, it like
try this place. Like everyone's telling me their favorite place,

(16:03):
and I go and try them, and almost all of
the ones that I get recommended, there's like good good
are on the east side, more like Highland Park, you know.
So we're like in the Ure areas, which makes sense.
There's a lot of cool restaurants over there. And and
so I've tried pretty much all the ones I've been recommended,
and they have been better than like kind of the
average accessible pizza in the valley for sure, and they're

(16:25):
good for what they are. But again, for me, it's
not just about the pizza itself. It's like the specific
style and it's really hard. Like a lot of places
do it, like wood fired in LA which is surprising.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I'm just like, but why, Yeah, I was so hoping
that when you were like, there's this one place in Louisville,
that it was gonna be Papa John's.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I do a funny story about Papa John, though it's
not even my story.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I feel like everybody from Louisville does. Wait about John
Schnadder the John Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
It was.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So it's this My partner who's like born and raised
from Louisville told miss one of the people that was
involved in this incident. Apparently, but John Schnetter like owns
this whole like little like neighborhood in the like rich
area of Louisville. Like he just owns like all the
land and like like so he's and he like lived

(17:22):
there for a while. I don't know if he does anymore,
but he used to ride his bicycle all around that area.
And so it was like the last day of school
and these teenagers who had just you know, like driving
down the road. I think they had like literally last
day ever of school, like last day of twelfth grade,
and they were just goofing around and one of them
was like, fuck, fuck this, We're finally done, and he

(17:42):
like tossed a textbook out the window. But John Schnatder
was like riding his bicycles. He just got fucking like
like shit bagged off his bike by this big, big
high school book. And apparently he like was good at
press charges. He eventually, Oh, actually, but he he like

(18:05):
wanted to and it was like threatening these teenagers because
he thought he was like trying to say it was
like a hate crime. But it's like they didn't know
that you were John, they were targeting you. They just
threw the book you want a bicycle.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
He's like, Oh, what a nice day.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I love it so much because I don't like him
and I don't like his pizza.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Apparently suck it. I've heard not great things. Yeah, what
is uh? What's something Siri do you think is underrated?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Okay? Overrated? Cold pizza? I mean we're just talking about
pizza anyway. So like, okay, I just I hate cold pizza.
I hate it a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
You can't eat cold pizza. It's it's it's repulsive to you.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, it's both that I choose to not eat it,
like I have no desire, and also I'm pretty sure
at this point I couldn't like if I like, it
is disgusting enough to me as like a texture, a temperature,
a flavor experience that if I were to take a
bite of cold pizza, I would really have to fight vomiting,

(19:12):
as I would actively fight vomiting with you, like.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
We've gotten so good at real Like there's so many
good options for reheating now with like air fryers, which
is like using a pan that like, why whyever do
cold pizza?

Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean argument about this quite often because so many
people really like cold pizza. Like they They're like, well,
it's like a separate experience that stands alone to have
it when it's cold, And I'm like, you know what,
I respect that you feel that way, right, You're allowed
to have that feeling. I am also allowed to feel

(19:50):
that you're mentally ill for that being your preference.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It is a little bit like people being like, I
really like cold French fries, Like really, that's only high
people say that? Do high people say they like I
used to eat cold ass friends because I would be
so high and it would be like this, I got
those fries from earlier.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And then you're just like, my so so high.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I'm stoner. But I've never been so high that I
wanted to eat food served at the incorrect temperature on purpose.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Oh I'm a piece. I'm a vile scumbag when it
comes to like what I'll eat just high, like the
barges subterranean, the.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
One cold food that I really ride for is cold
chicken of any sort, cold like fried chicken.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Cold wings. I really like cold wings.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, I'll even have cold wings.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, I got a I got an underrated now okay,
because I can only think of things in terms of
food in this moment. So my underrated is salted black licorice.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Very good. I love salted licorice.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
There's a specific brand that I think it's finished, and
I order it online because it's it's impossible to find
anywhere else, and it has like a witch on the bag.
It's just an illustration of a witch flying through the sky.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
I like, I cannot hang with j Was it called
jungle varrawl. That's a different one. That's actually heck shale
k s h e y l okay. Wait is salted
black licorice just better. I hate the flavor that anie flavor.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You would not like this that, okay, It was like
maybe it's this salt like it's black licorice. It's incredibly salty.
And it also if you look at the ingredients, like
it has like literal ammonia in it, like it's because
it's from Europe. They have different like preservatives that they
use over there. So the preservative used in this particular
licorice like candy is is like ammonia based, which just

(21:51):
makes it even more addictive because it has this like
weird like like in your mouth.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
It does feel because I got on a salty licorice
kick for a while and it does. It hasn't gotten
that last like because it in the United States, like
all the best scientists are going into making food like
addictive and perpetually addictive, so that like you can be
on your one hundredth skittle and be like, man, these

(22:22):
are actually getting better as you get whereas like salty licorice,
I feel like when I was on a real salted
liquorice kick, like I like the eighth piece, I was like,
I need to stop because this is like bad for
I think I started tasting the ammonia. Yeah, happening.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I kind of like that, so I would never stop,
Like I have to stop myself with this particular kind.
It's the flavor is pretty strong and like overwhelming. Also
like they're not hard, they're like they're a unique like
delivery format because it's like a it's like a little
I don't know, it looks like a sour straw or
something like a little chunk of a sour straw like

(23:03):
a segment, and it has like a filling. So it's
like that there's like a tube that's like the licorice part,
and then the inside has this filling that's also more licorice.
But that's like really kind of a moni apart, so
you have two different textures. And I'm getting way too
into this. So I have a way that I like
I do with all foods, like snack foods, I have
a very specific way I eat it. It's like I

(23:24):
I like have I put the piece of my mouth
and then it's like a fifteen minute process for one
piece of candy where I like break it down in
my mouth by like eating it a certain way. Okay,
obviously I have some some uh some conditions. I have
some like DHD some stuff going on.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I do get it in your mouth ADHD also where
or like OCD or whatever like where I'm always like
I have routines that I do with my gum where
I like flatten it out into a tube, then I
roll the tube up. Then I press the tube flat
so that it or pressed the rolled up thing flat.
So it's a pancake shape. Roll that, roll the pancake

(24:04):
up so that it's a flat tube. Let's pull it
out then bring that up so it's like, you know,
a roll of tape, flat flat into a pancake, and
just do that over and over.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Sorry, I accused you of being high on molly the
last time you were together. It's your jaw. Your mouth
was going crazy. And if I had known you were
just flattening that gum out, yeah, I wouldn't have made
that whole business meaning awkward.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Do you ever do you ever mold the gum to
the roof of your mouth? And like with gum, it's
like it has to be the right kind of gum
where it's enough, and then you pull it out and
you're like, wow, that's the roof of my mouth.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, yep, it's always bubble gum, because bubble gum that
has the thickness that you can really do like a
like a dental impression. Yeah, I'd be like, yep, that's
the roof of my mouth. And I'm forty and I'm
doing this in a movie theater. Thank you. What do
we say about you and gum on? Mike Jack?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I can't stop you motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I don't hear the sounds.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
So my my other routine is that I take trident
already small pieces break them in half.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So, oh my god, that's what my mom did. I
would that's trauma for me.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I go through a lot of trident, so I need
I need this.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
When I'd go to church with the family as a kid,
and like, I hated it because it was too long
and boring, and I would just continually ask my mom
for pieces of gum, but she choose trident and gum,
the blue one, and she would tear the piece in half.
And I was always like, I was like fucking offended,
Like how dare you half a gum?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Mother?

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, I don't do it for anybody else, but when
I'm chewing, I break it into half pieces. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
If I ever only have a half piece left, my
wife is very angry at me.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, weird person. Anyways, Uh great, overrated, underrated. Let's take
a quick break and we'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I was just thinking I was at the movies. I
eat eminem, I let the eminem's melt in my mouth.
I like to get the shell to fucking just fully
dissolve in my mouth and then I just eat the
chocolate bits. That's one of my weird and then you
get the little crunch yeah and the rest of it,
like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
They ever put the M and ms in the popcorn?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, I don't like to do that. I don't like
I don't like savory and sweet, all right.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I like to make a little shut up jack.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
You like and sweet to make a little trail mix.
By the way, you used to think it was weird too,
and and now I like it if you do like.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
The savory sweet combo. There's a new variety of Oreo out.
It's a chocolate covered pretzel flavor.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
There's a good They're crazy, they very good.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I resisted.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
When I was at the store yesterday, I was like,
they're very good.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I love pretzels. During my early twenties, I was like,
does anybody like I would literally ask people thing, anyone
at Eminem's because I wanted Eminem's to make a chocolate
cover pretzel version of Eminem's and then they did without
checking with me, and it's shucked. And so I've always
been skeptical because I've been burned before. But the fact

(27:16):
that Oreo has nailed it. Lemon Oreos like when when
they put their mind to something, they sometimes really really connect.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
All right, this sounds like a right wing podcast because
they're doing anything but talking about Gilaine Maxwell.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And mentioned.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I like to I like to make them melt in
my hand and not my mouth because of that ad campaign.
Wasn't that their thing in the eighties? They not in
your hand? Like bullshit? Oh yeah, I squeeze a ship
out of them.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, let's talk about song Gilaine Song Glayan of do Maxwell,
I believe is what they're going to be calling her,
saint Gilaane of Maxwell. Yeah. The latest twist in the
Epstein saga is like the full on media press campaign
to normalize Gallaine Maxwell, Epstein's girlfriend and co conspirator. So

(28:12):
the DOJ we talked about, they announced that they would
be speaking with her to find out what she knows,
although the Epstein files themselves would probably reveal a whole
lot more than whatever she can gin up. But sure, okay,
let's act like the secrets are all contained within Gilaine Maxwell,
so you can avoid actually having a reckoning with the

(28:32):
all the documentary documented evidence around the trial.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Okay, sure, go ahead and do that.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And we also got reports now that Maxwell is quote
preparing new evidence to show the Deputy Attorney General. Obviously,
teaming up with a convicted predator isn't the best look
for Trump, but they seem to think that if they
can get Maxwell to say something like Donald had nothing
to do with any of the fucked up child abuse,
that maybe the base will lay off. I'm not sure,

(29:00):
but that's it's very much getting more and more like
what are you going to get her to say in
order for you to go give her a lighter sentence
or commute her sentence or whatever. Charlie Kirk was saying.
He's like, talking to Maxwell is actually a good thing
and we should be encouraging the DOJ in this and
she's like, okay, that's one take of that box. And
then Greg Kelly from Newsmax we've talked about before. He

(29:23):
is the guy who's like, hey, what if Jeffrey Epstein,
maybe he was a patriot.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
But if he was working for the CIA and actually
like doing this to save people's lives, I don't know.
I'm just spitballing here.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I'm just spitballing bullshit right now. He basically now is
doing the similar thing with Glene Maxwell and asking just
maybe she's the one that's been wronged and we need
to think about what her story is. This is Greg
Kelly on News Max.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I do have a feeling that she has been She
just might be a victim. She just might be.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
There was a rusty judgment.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
There was a lot of pass there for a while.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
All right, Granted she hung out with Jeffrey Epstein, and
I know that's apparently not good. But she's in jail.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Wait, sorry for how long now? And apparently that's not
good hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, Like what and now
you can't hang out with the convicted sexual predator.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That is kind of like the enter. I think they
want to take the sting out of being associated with
Like that's a nice little poke at that.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I'm like, which, apparently, I guess is apparently that thing
that's a crime. To be the best friends with this
guy and always hanging out with him and the people
that he trafficked children.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
He goes on to have like a quote from Alan Dershowitz,
who's like, I don't know, man, I think there's nothing
to see, you know. He's he's like there's nothing to
see here at all, because that's just that's my take
to sort of protect myself. Then Greg Kelly comes out,
comes back like sort of echoing what Dershowitz says, because
he was like, maybe she deserves to be released. This
is really unfair. Durshwood says that Gilaine Maxwell got the

(31:05):
got a raw deal because someone had to be held
accountable for Jeffrey Epstein. But then this is Greg Kelly
just yes, ending that take.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
She deserves to be out, and maybe she never deserved
to be in there in the first place.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Now say such a thing.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I mean, these are perverts, these are child molesters.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
We've heard that.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
From home, from the media, from prosecutors. What the fuck
prosecutors prosecuted President Trump over nothing. I don't know, but
I'm skeptical of everything and everybody these days, and you
should be too.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
So that's they're they're yeah, they're signaling pretty strongly. What
the next phase of this thing is is just getting
Gillene to say something. Everyone has to believe her, and
we'll move on and she can be free if we.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Have her image to use her as a star witness.
And then also kind of planting the idea that she
should be out so that they can then pardon her
in exchange for whatever. She's gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's so like blatant, like they didn't even like do
the and also maybe she's like they didn't provide anything

(32:18):
to say she's innocent that they just said. So I
don't know, I just have this feeling that she's a
victim too. Yeah, they're they're again they are prosecutors, were
mean to Trump, and they're the ones who are saying
she did bad stuff. He is literally the argument.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I don't know. I mean, this
isn't really everything they're saying isn't really changing the minds
of a lot of people, like in the Republican Party though,
like even people like Nancy Mace have sided with Democrats
to get them to real like to have like more
materials released. So I don't know what they're just like
in a weird spot. And now like you have other

(32:57):
Republicans trying to do stuff of like like we all
know dirt bags. Hell, I know a few dirt bags myself,
And you're like, what, that's what they're saying. Yeah, that's
calling dirt bags. That's what Tim Burkeett. Congressman Tim Burkeett said,
he's like, hey, it's just like he said, it's just
like me. I know, I know a lot of dirt
bags myself. And you're like, that's not a that's not

(33:18):
a good line. That's truly like a I eat pieces
of shit like you for breakfast line, And someone goes,
you eat pieces of shit? Right, and then you go, uh,
you'd hang out with dirt bags? What do you means?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Is that what you're saying? Edophiles, No, I and you
call them dirt.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Bag It's Obama, guys, It's Obama, Like you know, that's
where everything, that's the vibe of everything right now. So yeah,
we should brace ourselves for a whole lot of nonsense
because as on Thursday, apparently that's when the Deputy Attorney
General is supposed to meet with Gallne Maxwell to whatever
the fuck they're gonna cook up.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Because Pam Bondi like is stressed out or something. Isn't
that the thing they're saying that she's like suffering from
She said she had a corn tornia and torn. She
had a corn.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
She said he had a torn cornea, so she had
to miss him like human trafficking event today. That's what
was crazy. She was scheduled to speak at a human
trafficking thing for Sea Pack. I think just look at
Cornia runs in like.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Trafficking event, you mean where they all get together and
human traffic.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. She never misses those series. She's
such a huge fan, huge fan because she's got to
got to bring it down. Yeah, no, truly, But.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Like dislocated cornias are caused by her exacerbated by stress.
I wonder what could be stressing her out.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
There's no way to know, really, no way to know,
no way to know, because we we did, of course,
get the revelation that she had to tell Trump in
May that he was in the files, which around the
time that he started being like, what's what's the big
deal with this? Why is everybody going on and on
being so weird about this thing? That's all just the

(35:11):
guy's dead. He's dead.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
What are you? Why are we still talking about him?
It's not going away. It ain't going away, no matter
how hard they try it be. Like, there's another report
that he's just basically banning people in the administration from
even speaking on anything about it. Now yeah, to just
like act like, I don't know, like a possum or
something like, just just play possum if they ask and

(35:34):
just be like, I don't know, I can't say anything.
It high level clear energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
all bad. I don't know how they're I don't know.
It's just a it's ironic to watch this conspiracy that
they've been fanning the flames of like they fanned it
to the point that the flames got so out of control.
Now they're like it could burn us. Now.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Do you think he just forgot that he was best
friends with him for like a decade, do it like
when he was fanning the flames, or we just think
he was like so in the like the crowd seems
to be responding to this, so that's what we're going with.
It's so short sighted. I think he just he knew
people were cheering about it. And also I think because
of his entire life has been a festival of getting

(36:17):
away with ship, right, But it's never in his mind
that this could be tricky at all.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
He's like, we're gonna fucking do like nothing.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I guess when he was fanning the flames, he wasn't
necessarily talking specifically about Epstein, right, so that he just
didn't know the fire was gonna spread like that.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
All right, let's let's talk about boor Out, the sequel
to Borat boor At three out.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Uh, what's the most bored you've been at a job? Sirie?

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Right now? Right now, right now?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I bet right right now, I'm pretty bored right now.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I'm not for this, okay, So like it was the
most bored I've ever been. But also overall, I liked
the job because when it wasn't boring, it was fun,
but just there was so much boredom involved, and it
was It was honestly the last job that I had

(37:18):
before I got back in to the porn industry, because
I started in porn in like twenty twelve and then
retired in twenty fifteen. So from twenty fifteen until I
came back in twenty twenty, I had worked civilian jobs,
regular folk jobs, And the last one I had before

(37:38):
I came out of retirement was at a like a
small publishing company, and we would do like trade like
magazines and like directories and stuff for different like professional
trade associations. We had clients all over the US, and
so the boredom would come from like just well one
being at a desk all day having to either look

(37:59):
at a screen or do I was a copy editor
and like copywriter for a bunch of these clients that I,
you know, worked on their publications, and just just some
of the stuff that I had to work on was
so dry. Like one of the one of my clients,
like in my book was I forget the name of

(38:22):
but it was it was like the Fiberglass Professionals of
the West Southwest or something, so they.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Wash I had to edit the like quarterly magazine for
all of their like trade association members, and so each
issue was just like article after article that I either
had to like write, like like go interview people, like
write up the things, or just they would deliver it

(38:56):
already written and I'd have.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
To like, you know, edit it, and and it was
just age essay about fiberglass.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Right, you know, yeah, kingpin of the Southwest fiberglass industry.
He always a hot shot.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
And then some of them were like less boring though,
so like they're really really dry. Ones were like but
then the funeral Directors Associations, we had a bunch of
different like regional ones in that group of clients. So
I got to edit one of their things. And and
the funeral directors they're they're freaks, what do you mean?

(39:34):
Like that was some fun stuff. Even if the material
I had to edit was like super dry, I'd still
have fun with it because the ads in that magazine
were all like for like cranes to move the dead
body in your like, like it was unhinged. Like funeral
directors are very funny people, is what I learned. They
generally have a good sense of humor, right, very.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Connected to like the aspect of life that like the
vast majority of polite society is spending like i'd say,
ten of our energy every day just like suppressing. Oh
thought's about death, you know, And they're just like in
it all day, just being like yeah, so then we
moved a bunch of bodies around, so they just yeah,

(40:20):
that's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Well, God, I mean, I'm wondering if maybe it would
have been more fun if you could put your own
spin on that Fiberglass Quarterly article and made it a
little more fun. But like there's all we talk all
the time about all these funny phrases people come up
with that talk about the ills of capitalism, like quiet quitting,
and you know, like micro retirements, and now there's bore

(40:46):
out micro retirements.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
By the way, we're vacation vacations. Yes, because this guy
is weird. He does a micro retirement once every couple
of years for two weeks where he like doesn't even
think about or do any work while he's micro retired.
So bor out.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It's not quite burnout where you are worked too hard
and have nothing left in the tank. It's like being
bored out of your mind because your job is not
stimulating at all. Quote. Rather than feeling overwhelmed from too
many tasks and responsibilities, you're simply unmotivated and stagnant due
to a lack of challenges or growth opportunities. It's difficult
to find purpose when you have nothing to work toward

(41:23):
and no obstacles to overcome. Quote. While most people feel
bored at work every now and again, feeling chronically disinterested
in your job for weeks on end means there may
be an underlying issue going on, said Peter Durass, CEO
of AI career app Kick Resume.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Why is it always AI people? We had that guy
who was like, parenting is hard. Use AI, and he
was like an AI executive. It's funny that they just
like have a lot of time, I guess to sit
around because they don't fucking do shit.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I think it's probably easy to like get your name
in an article and then people go, oh, what's it's
like a soft a you know, essentially right because this
one again there's so many articles, or they're just like,
you guys are talking about late stage capitalism and capitalism
in general, but you're doing everything you can to not
use those words. So rather than describing i don't know,
like the the Marxist theory of alienation, like where you know,

(42:18):
you're reduced to being a cog and a financial machine
and you aren't encouraged to live out to your full
human potential under capitalism, Like that might be why you're bored.
That could be that could be the nature of the
bore out, rather than like them being like, make sure
your HR department is more accessible. Come on, what the
fuck are you saying the solution to existential despair talking

(42:41):
to HR?

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Really, because that actually exacerbates mine. That actually makes my
existential despair worse. Yeah, I'm talking to somebody who has
a fake personality. It's just funny. Kelly.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh my god, I'm so glad to be talking to you.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Drunk, dark dark.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, I mean I think that's the thing everyone is feeling,
Like capitalism grind them down, and I guess the revolutionary
thing would be right at articles about how our modern
world is making us more and more disconnected from our humanity.
But whatever, we just get these articles with a quote
from an AI executive like as a smoke screen, and
then some really.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Cool tips on how to cope. It's bout yeah, it's
it's it's a really tough name. They haven't really nailed
it with this one. Why quitting at least like rolled
off the tongue bor out just you you really want
to say borat every single time? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, I think I don't know. Broadly,
we see this stuff about how like four day work
weeks are better for people and like allowing people to
like you know, have time off to be humans helps.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, but it's it's couldn't be us.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
What's what's the like experience like in terms of like
in the adult film industry, in terms of you're feeling
of ownership over your work and how that sort of
compares with other sort of professions.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Siri, Oh, well, I mean I have pretty complete ownership
over it at this point, which is, you know, it's
not unique to me. But like that's that's not really
the average experience. I mean, it kind of depends. People
have different there's different ways of building a career in
the adult industry. But for me, you know, I don't
have an agent, so like I only book shoots directly

(44:28):
for things where I'm like working for a paycheck for
a studio, you know, for the company. That's still like
a really small percentage of the total work I do.
Most of what I do is just making my own
content and selling it on fan platforms, and that's just
you know, I have all the control exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
That's probably empowering to be able to, you know, have
a say in what your labor is and ownership of
it versus God, like when I fucking did stupid retail
jobs and they're like, you guys.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Need to unwrap all the purses and set them up now,
and I'm like I can't.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, retail is painful, it's.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Hard, it's hard, but ye in retail. Yeah, but again,
I think like it's all these articles I feel like
just all miss like the point about it. It's like,
it's the thing that we yearn for is to have
work that feels like we are somehow centered and even
if we have to toil to like be able to survive,
like being able to emphasize that you also need the
autonomy as a person to like create or do nothing,

(45:29):
luxure whatever the fuck you want to do, and still
have the ability to do that without feeling like, oh,
you will die in the streets if you don't work constantly.
Like that's that's what we're getting at here. But sure,
let's call it borout. That makes you feel weird, there's
something wrong with you. It's called borout. Yeah, all right,
let's take a quick break.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
We'll be right back. And we're back.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
We're back.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
And another pandemic movie has hit, apparently the new Ariaster
movie the guy made Midsommer and Hereditary and bo Is Afraid,
which I'm now being told is worth watching people who
I don't know. When it first came out, it was
very mixed reviews and maybe this will be the same.

(46:23):
But his new movie Eddington is like a Western, but
it like takes place during the pandemic, and it's like
an anti vax sheriff versus a like liberal triangulatory triangulator
politician and Peter Pascal, and it's like everyone's bad and

(46:43):
crazy and fighting with each other. But it does take
place during the pandemic. Everybody's just like communicating and like
looking at screens. And some people say it's a boring
vision of the world. That's one of the reviews. That
was the Jacobin review. I've heard other pone.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I saw someone who saw it early and they were
just kind of like, I didn't like it because it
felt as crazy as everything is, Like it didn't feel
it was sort of like maybe under But again, I
think that's I think that's the thing with pandemic movies
is everyone has their version of it that they're bringing
to content like this, and you might be like, oh, wow,
this is interesting, or some people might be like, dude,
I don't want to fucking think about this.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, yeah, Like that's the thing. I remember when the
pandemic first started, we were on here like talking about
how to like where to find content from, like from
other pandemics, right, And the thing I settled on though,
was like my favorite thing about pandemics was the Camu

(47:43):
novel that is I'm drawing a blank on the name
of it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
But plague, Yeah, plague I think is what it's called.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
But that one is really good. But it was written
like decades after the pandemic, and so I mean, maybe
this will be a thing where people in fifty years
or just like look back and be like, oh shit,
that's what it was like. You know, it's like a
time capsule of just like how bad everything was. That's
like too real. Like time capsules are not fun to

(48:12):
open a couple of years later, but if you open
them decades later, it can be pretty cool. So but yeah,
just generally, like pandemic content is real hit and mostly miss.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, I just don't I don't know. I mean, like
I think it probably just because we're too we're still
in the midst of COVID being like being a thing
that's still affecting people, so I don't know how much
time it'll take. But also I think part of me
also thinks of like how that how like the lockdown's
really fractured people in this way that suddenly it was

(48:50):
fine to not give a fuck about the collective well
being of others, and in fact, that was like a virtue.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
For some people.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
And I don't know if maybe that that needs to
be dove into deeper, but I think that's like a
discomfort I get from it. I'm like, oh, man, like shit,
or real people started really fucking breaking apart two at
that point when it's like, I don't give a fuck
if my grandmother dies, Like you're just like this, what
is no? No, siria, Are you a pandemic content fan

(49:18):
or you of the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Top pandemic favorite panda, Like I.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Don't know, I can't even name you one piece of
like a movie or anything about a pandemic situation that
I'm like, yeah, I love that or.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
No, but like when you hear about it, are you
kind of.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Like, fuck, dude, this is really something I can just
like anytime it's like in the news for some reason now.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Or no, like Edding, like for example, this film Eddington
likes taking place there.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I mean, I'm definitely gonna see the movie now, and
I like, I mean, Midsummer is like in my top
three favorite movies of all times, So yeah, I like
and I liked bo I was Afraid, even though.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
It was a lot, that's what I've heard. Yeah, wait
what was that? Wait? What's it about?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
What is it about?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Oh Jesus, yeah that's all I need to know. Like
ari Astra and the goes what what is it about?
And I'm like, all right, that's what it is about. Also,
it's like the inside of a very broken brain, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, it's a wild ride. It's like if you want
to watch a movie and feel like you've experienced uh
like full psychotic like mania and et cetera. Like that's
a good one. It's just it's it was just it's
very unique and interesting and well done. I've only saw
it once in the theaters. I should watch it again. Yeah,
so I'll definitely be watching this one. I like everything

(50:41):
ari Astra is done.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I do feel like horror is the place that we
go to for because, you know, like I was saying,
like just the actual dynamic of a pandemic is sort
of like I mean, like you know, people randomly, you know,
we tell stories and listen to stories because they like

(51:05):
help us like make narrative sense of a world that
is oftentimes like somewhat random, you know.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
And so.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
And I feel like pandemics and like plagues and stuff
like that. It's just like that's the thing that Camu
book writes about a lot. It's just like how random
it is, like who catches it and who gets it,
and like people's inability to like kind of deal with that.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
But just that's not what we want our stories to
tell us.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
We don't want them to be like, yeah, it's actually
turns out all meaningless and like fucking random and like
you just died because the person who made your soup
like had a bad teacher in the grade where they
go over germ theory and so they didn't wash their
hands like three days ago. You know, just like that's

(51:54):
not the sort of thing that we go to stories for.
So like horror movies that like represent these fears and
things like that, I feel like that's probably where we're
gonna work this shit out. A writer jam was saying
that twenty eight years Later has a lot of like
pandemic y stuff in it, you know, I mean it's
literally about a pandemic that changes how people live their lives.

(52:19):
It's just you know, in that one, it's much cooler.
It's a rage virus.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
But yeah, there's like a doctor who everybody hates because
he's a doctor and shit like that. Everybody's fuck doctors,
fuck a doctor, fun tell me.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I mean that's that whole thing when people say, like
I'm not going to the doctor because they gonna tell
me something's wrong. Yeah, yeah, you know it's a very
American yeah yeah, not a good yeah, oh for sure.
And also, like you can also understand it's like, not
only do they tell me something's wrong, it'll also cost
too much money. Right, So I'm just gonna ride this
one out until TBD. Yeah, I mean, I'm I am.

(52:56):
I am curious to see like how the sort of
bib Pascal Pedro Pascal character is kind of presented, because again,
like I think that from what it sounds like, people
are sort of annoyed about like everyone was kind of
fucking wacky during the pandemic. But I think I'm really
curious to see how how that how they're like actually

(53:16):
skewering that, because yeah, I know they allude to like
toilet paper hoarding, but that felt like a full across
the political spectrum wacky thing people were doing.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
We were all toilet paper hoarding. It was not just
the left. Okay, I still am working my way through
a stockpile.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Then that's that's why I felt like a fucking god
with my bidet, because I'm like Brian, use a toilet
paper like that. I just need a little bit, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
But day got out here, I saw the day, got
the day God. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Well, Siri, such a pleasure having you. God bless you
as we say it all of our guests. Wow, you
said God bless you. Goddamn blass Siri.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Follow you?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I think you have a pretty cool event coming up?

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Do you have a cool event coming up? People can
find me on Siri doll dot com. Hell yeah, the
Sirie Doll again on Instagram and I'm on blue Sky
at siri doll dot com. I have one of those
fancy URL user names.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I am hosting an event in September called Corn Telethon.
This is the second one, me and my and my
friend and business buddy Alex Steed. We co produce it
Alex Steed, Alex friend of the show and so Corn
Telethon is a much like the telethons of your in

(54:50):
like the eighties and nineties. We're fundraising for sex worker
mutual aid nonprofits. It is basically a twelve hour live
streamed variety show and it's very it's very fun and
very grueling. I think we had like forty guests, like
in person last year we had a lot, Like there's

(55:12):
a lot of it's just a revolving door everyone. Everyone's
coming in to play a song or you know, tell
some jokes and sit on the couch. And the whole
thing is like we're going to entertain the ship out
of you for twelve hours straight and please donate some
money to it cause what.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Like, And so it's truly a variety show, like you're saying, music, comedy, wow, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, a little bit of everything.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Do you have people actually answering phones no go back?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
We haven't.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It's it's a little like logistically challenging to set that up.
And also there's the aspect of like since it's it
is live streamed, like we're we stream it on like
YouTube and Twitch, which does provide like, yeah, I would
love to do a live call in line, but I
watch enough other live streamers to know that like when
you do that on those platforms. You're putting yourself at

(56:03):
risk for like a channel, because there's going to be
some dipshit who calls in and says slurs.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Like yeah, yeah, if you need somebody just in the
background picking up a phone and pretending to have a
conversation but the phone's not connected anything, hit me up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
We wanted to do that last year and we kind
of like didn't have like yeah, it was it realized
it was going to be more complicated to set up
than I think. We'll we have realistic time to achieve,
but we might we might be trying to hear I do.
I've been buying prop telephones. Oh really, I have two
and a third on the way. Okay, But and in

(56:39):
case I haven't mentioned this, but in case it's not obvious,
I feel like it probably is. But it's called corn
telethon because we can't use the.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Word porn, right, that wasn't obvious to me, And corn is.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Like the code word on that that people have been
using on TikTok for a while, Like when you talk
about porn, you just say corn or you use the
corn emoji, right, nice.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Along with segs, as people are still people using segs
still yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I mean there's different versions of all of them.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny how much trying to
skirt algorithms that tamp down on our free speech has
forced us to have come Like you're watching some corn,
I mean porn. Sorry, talking like the algorithm.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
You do always open conversations like that, you watch corn?
You guys watch some corn? Forget it? Did you get
out of here? Man? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
You guys got you guys got basketballs. You guys sell
basketballs here a library, it's a public library. I knew that.
I knew that.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, that that explains some very confusing conversations. I thought
segs was just like a short form foregs. I was like,
they got any well, wonderful. People can find out more
about that at syree Doll dot.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Com, at corn Telethon dot com.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Corn Yes, there we go, September four, wonderful.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoy Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Unfortunately I really enjoyed Temptation Island.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Mmm, Temptation Island.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah, Okay, that was crazy. I'd never seen so sad it.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah, because it's bleak. I mean, that's kind of how
I feel about all the dating reality shows but Temptation
Island in particular, Oh boy, yeah, oh yeah, deeply entertaining,
but also like wow, because.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
It's like people who have their like unmarried couples, right,
and then it's like I don't know, y'all, O can't
I'll handle so a bunch of hot people.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah, and then they bring like twelve like they make
the well, they separate them by gender, and then they
make them live with like twelve tempters or temptresses in
a house together and then if they like there's a
point in the show where like if they have sex,
then like a claxon alarm goes off in the other house.
But so they know someone's fucking but they don't know

(58:58):
who it is.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I didn't realize and yeah it's one of their significant others.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Wow, it's it's really crazy. Well, this is kind of
like I'm I'm not monogamous. I'm Polly, Like I'm in
a very long term relationship. But you know where we were, Polly.
So it's it's wild to watch. Like pretty much the
format of every single dating reality show is like we're
gonna make these straight cis, right, monogamous couples like microdose polyamory. Yeah,

(59:31):
and give them zero fucking tools to handle it right, right, right,
and of course it's always disastrous, Like.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, that's what especially like once it's like it's a
Netflix dating show, then I'm always like they're gonna turn
the like fuck you up to three hundred because like
that's how I even feel about like when like the
ultimatum and stuff, it's like a similar thing where it's
like I don't know, maybe all are gonna get made,
or maybe you go fuck this other person we pair
you up with and we'll watch you, you know, your

(59:57):
your relationship fall apart.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Yeah, And I can ever really decide if I believe
that they're intentionally casting douchebags or if.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Like you just happened to be a douchebag to be yeah,
or if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
People because I know, like people go on reality shows
for like a lot of reasons, and I mean one
of the biggest ones is because you once you're off
the show, you're you're selling something to somebody, even if
it's just your social media presence. But yeah, so it's like, man,
how many these people are actually this much like of
a degenerate or or is it just like this you

(01:00:31):
you've created a degenerate persona for this reality show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah right, I've had some of them look in the
mirror and they don't even know anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Right, Yeah, a douchebag. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
They just like get people really drunk, rightawsuits.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
From like Love Island, So I've heard. I don't know
much about it because that's I just started watching the
new season of that one, and like I haven't been
paying close enough. It's like kind of slower paced.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Right right right, Yeah, but I mean all the ones,
like the early two thousands of late nineties dating shows,
those are all just booze filled.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah, like fuck, I think I think it was. I
hope I'm not miss speaking, but I'm pretty sure because
I have a friend who was telling me all about
the Love Island lore that they like, there was a
lawsuit that resulted in they don't just get like unlimited free,
like they have to buy their own alcohol like the
people on the show now on that on that one
to limit over.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yeah, wow, awesome. Miles, Where can people find you as
their work media you've been joying? Yeah, find me everywhere
at Miles of Gray. I'm chatting shit about four to
twenty day or ninety day fiance on four to twenty
day Fiance with Sofia Alexandra.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
That's where I talk about my nonsense reality dating show Kick.
And let's see a work of media. I like, yes,
this is a post on Blue Sky. This is from
at doctor Yen's full or yensfull dot de posted news
Malcolm Jamal Warner, who you've admired as a kid, has

(01:02:05):
died me. No news Ozzy Osbourne, who you've admired as
a kid, has died me. No, Hulk Hogan, who you've
admired as a kid, has died me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Ah, oh well, I just love that Hulk Hogan died.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, And then so did Chuck Mangione right after that,
a great trumpet player that was made famous on King
of the Hill. Luigi's dad, not Luigi's I was like,
that name sounds so from the Chuck if you remember
King of the Hill. I think he died in the
megalo marked explosion or he was in that episode anyway.
And he also he's made a ton of hits that like,

(01:02:42):
you know, not Tory's Big sampled and Chuck Man JOONI
was a man. And then the next one is from
John Scott Railton at JAS Relton Scott as social it's
a it's a graphic of like a new Mercedes dashboard
and it says Mercedes Benz expands collaboration with Microsoft to
boost in car productivity with enhanced meetings for teams app
into an integration in Microsoft three sixty five co pilots

(01:03:04):
and they quote tweeted and said, consider your honor that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
My client was being extremely productive at.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
The time of the crash. Yeah, maybe that'll get.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah, that'll help. I like to tweet. Somebody was like,
when you call customer support and a clanker picks up
and it's that picture of the guy like pulling the
headphones off being.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Oh Jose Mario.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Yeah, and kit Ger Mulvana tweeted, can't believe I've lived
far enough into the future to learn the first slur
for robots clanker, Dang. I got a dang clanker on here,
clanker say customer service. But anyway, you can find me
on Twitter, Jack Underscore Olbrian and on blue Sky at

(01:03:47):
jack Obi the Number one. You can find us on
Twitter and Blue Sky at daily Zeikest. We're at the
Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to the description
of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and underneath
the show description you'll find the footnote for where we
link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode. We also link off to a song that
we think you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song

(01:04:09):
that you think the people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yes, this is from the producer B. B. Searle. It's
spelled B S E A r L. It's The track
is called sold My Soul and it's just like a
really nice, sort of like super minimal dancy track, kind
of R and B. You'll like it if you have
if you got a little bit of honey in your hips,
you're gonna like this track, sold my Soul. It's a

(01:04:33):
head NodD So check this one out from B Serial.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I don't have any honey in my hips currently, but
I wouldn't mind getting some.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
You can test it with this track. Jack might make
your big toe shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Up in your boot take my boot off. We will
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(01:05:03):
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