SCOTUS v Roe v Wade? Flamin’ Cheetos DRAMA! 5.19.21

In episode 912, Jack and Miles are joined by The Line podcast's Dan Taberski to discuss Ohio's vaccine lottery, Roe V. Wade being in trouble, the recount in Arizona, insurrectionists refusing to investigate themselves, Joe Rogan saying some dumb shit, why we hate our own voices, celebs marrying non-famous people, the Flamin' Hot Cheetos origin story, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Beer, donuts and baseball tickets won’t be enough to overcome vaccine hesitancy: Leila Atassi
2. Ohio residents who get COVID-19 vaccine can enter $1 million lottery each week for 5 weeks, governor announces
3. Mask mandate, all Ohio virus orders will be lifted June 2
4. 'Game show gimmicks' and a 'stunt:' Ohio lawmakers pan DeWine's vaccine lottery plan
5. Ohio’s $1 Million Lottery For Vaccinated Adults Draws On Behavioral Economics
6. Ohio sees boost in shots after it announces $1 million vaccination lottery
7. Supreme Court to Review Mississippi Law Limiting Abortion Rights
8. Maricopa Republicans Officially OVER These Bamboo-Hunting Arizona Fraudit Idiots
9. Arizona Is Holding Yet Another 2020 Recount. The Company Running It Makes It Even Worse.
10. McCarthy Comes Out Against Bipartisan January 6 Commission Proposal
11. This Man Is Not Bright
12. Here’s Why You Hate the Sound of Your Own Voice
13. Mirror, mirror, on the wall: People rate own bodies as more attractive when viewed from third-person perspective
14. Julia Roberts shares incredibly rare picture with husband Danny Moder as they mark special anniversary
15. 27 celebrities who married people who aren't famous
16. Flamin' Hot Cheetos... the movie?
17. Eva Longoria on her Flamin’ Hot Cheetos movie and Hollywood beginnings

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, eight five,
Episode three. Guys, the production of I Heart Radio. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, May nine, twenty twenty one.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a K Buck, jack Minster Fuller,

(00:22):
Mountain dew Uh, and I'm sure to be joined as
always buy my co host, Mr Miles Grads, Miles Gray,
a K Bone, Choos and Harmony, Choke Pound Gangster Snoop
Choogy two, Old Choogie Bastard, Tube Daddy, Choogie, Smalls, Chook
Tank Clan, Chook Face Killer, LLL, Choop J and Choop
D from Public Enemy O ch on the Brain. Shout

(00:45):
out to Ravioli, God on the Discord for that wonderful
collection of old school rappers. The God of Ravioli's love
that guy, Miles. We are so fortunate, so thrilled to
be joined in our third seeded by the host of
the Line podcast Running from Cops Missing, Richard Simmons. He

(01:07):
is a writer, director, podcast producer Dan Tobers of those Hey, Hey, Yeah,
thank you for doing it for me. Hi, Welcome, Welcome,
Where are you coming to us from? Dan, I mean
what Stock, New York right now? It's a beautiful day. Yeah,

(01:27):
super Sonny springs here that's gone? Is it? Is it
as picturesque as I imagine that part of the country
to be. I mean, only going beyond like my very
idyllic idea of it of Woodstock, but I always feel
like rolling hills. It's like that kind of thing. It's
actually the oldest or second oldest mountain range in the world.
The cat Skills are, the Adirondacks are So how do

(01:49):
you date that? They just I don't know, they carbon
dated or something. They've got some sort of thing where Yeah,
I just like that's a claim you could have, Like
you see that mountain over there, that's the oldest mount
in the world. Totally. Well, I love that. It's such
a great claim to fame because they're small. They're not
like the Rockies. So you feel a little lame until
you realize that the oldest, and then that's looking awesome. Yeah,

(02:09):
you lived your whole life with shame of how small
the mountains were a little bit with my pathetic little mountains.
But they're the oldest, they're the old forgot that, all right, Dan,
We are going to get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First couple of things we're
talking about today. We're gonna check in with Ohio's vaccine

(02:30):
lottery scheme, a kvaximillion. Is that a play on something
like thanks a million? Maybe Maximilian maximillion? Yes, that makes
way more sense, but even but as a thing, right,
is Maximilian like a good marketing? Hey? Maxim like the
name or is there a phrase I'm missing? I could
definitely see a lottery named Maximilion. Yeah, our nineties obsession,

(02:55):
eighties nineties obsession with the word max and maxima. Uh.
We'll talk Roe v Wade. Uh. We'll talk about the
Arizona recount. We will talk about Joe Rogan's claim that
white men are about to be canceled. We will ask
the question why we hate our own voices and just

(03:17):
us specifically, Yeah, just us and the three of us? Uh.
And also I'm alright with mine? Alright, Well, we've got
a healthy podcast. Yeah, what the fuck is this guy? Okay?
Sense itself. We might even check with Ariana Grande marrying

(03:38):
young Rando himself, whose name I did not write down,
but another famous person marrying a non famous person, which
I think the Saber metrics on that are actually pretty good.
So we'll we'll talk about that all of that plenty Moore.
But first Dan, we like to ask our guest, what
is something from your search history that is revealing about

(03:59):
who you are? Uh, just something there's a lot of addresses.
I went back and looked. There's a lot of addresses,
and I realized that it's something I read them, like
when I, oh, well I got I got. I'm not
giving the full I got Clinton Street, got Coloney Island Avenue. Um,
I've Kingston, New York, of course, classic, it's a classic.

(04:20):
Um I have Willow, New York. Basically, I just whenever
I talked to somebody, your any of you with them,
I want to see like where they're at, like what
their house or their apartments. Like yeah, so that's a
weird thing. So when you talk to somebody, you ask
them what their addresses and then yeah, usually I don't ask,
but like usually you can see it's like on the
bottom of their email or like it just takes a Google.

(04:41):
It's a little bit of research just to kind of
like give yourself a full picture sort of their environment,
where they're at, how they're Yeah, I like to see
where people are. I think that's interesting. I think it's
interesting where people choose to live and then where people,
um like, what they're into and if they're like it
says a lot about you. Have you ever seen have
you ever like while you embark on this fact finding mission,
been surprised at what you've found? Like when you search

(05:04):
something like oh yeah, somebody recently a friend of mine
that I was surprised at how nice their house was,
like super super super nice. Um, and they do not
present that way? Is that more like like they're kind
of a man. Yeah, yes, they look like they live
in a ship hole. Yeah. Do you reveal that? Do

(05:26):
you tell them as you're having a conversation, like just
googled your play? Yeah, it's sort of like sub training knowledge.
It's like something keeping the back of my head like
to sort of no, no, I don't tell them that
I google them because that's weird, Like nobody, nobody wants
you to do that. Yeah, well now they know what
is something you think is overrated? I have a couple
of um that I'll just pick a topo Chico okay, okay, rights,

(05:53):
what's too aggressive? Just sick? Of hearing about it. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm sick of the name it. I'm having trouble figuring
out like, are there like like mineral water, like sparkling water,
so elias who can be Like I get some bubbles
may have a different mouth feel, but at this point,
like especially in l A Topo Chico, people are acting

(06:14):
like if you drink anything else, like you're some kind
of war criminal or something. I don't know. It's bubbly
water and it's I get I get that it's in
a glass bottle, but Coca Cola owns it now, So
what's the what's what's the difference? Oh? Is that right? Yeah?
I think they were bought out by by Coca Cola,
Tope Topa Chico, Coca Cola Topa Cola. I mean the

(06:35):
mouth feel of the names, yeah, just the five throughout
mouth feel, it's pretty incredible. Yeah, what do you have
a type of sparkling water or sparkling So I'm already started. Yeah,
I'm already starting from just I'm just not interested and
now and then I have to hear people talking about
something that I'm not interested in. You have you're sick

(06:55):
of the Lacroix wave, you're sick of this, all this
Seltzer nonsense. Well, I wouldn't say, well I do. It's
a total lie. I mean that it is a total lie.
I'm drinking the spin spin Drift. Yeah, but that's I
don't if it doesn't have it has a flavor in it.
It's like pop. It's like, so you're you're in good
company because Jack is also drift your doctor. Uh? Is

(07:22):
that your favorite flavor of spin Drift? The raspberry line.
I wouldn't have picked it right now. I kind of
went in the grab bag. I like a grapefruit. I
like a grapefruit as well. Grapefruit and pineapple is kind
of a new, a new one that I've been enjoying. Oh,
I haven't seen that. The orange one is a little
it's a little heavy. Yeah. Uh. Strawberry is interesting because

(07:44):
they have it's like they captured the the dirtiness of
like a strawberry that like, like, I think there's some
stem in there, little like that. I think they tried
to incorporate the taste of the stem uh into the strawberry.
But it definitely is like among the more organic tastes

(08:04):
that you will get in a in a canned beverage.
But Toplo Chico is definitely for becoming like so popular
and dominant in the culture. It's it's very aggressive. It's
like at one side of the poll of like the
amount you can possibly carbonate anything. It's so many bubbles. Yeah. Last,

(08:29):
it'll last for a couple of days if you just
leave it out. Yeah. When you drink it, it feels
like you have like a mouthful mementos and you're drinking coke. Yeah,
like I want, I want to approximate the feeling of
tax in my mouth. Hit me up, what is something
you think is underrated? Dam The first one was Celery

(08:51):
that was making lunch, and then the second one was
Ethan Hawk. Oh yeah, I'm equally interested in both of
those tapes. But yeah, well Celery, Celery, Ethan Hawk. What's first?
Let's do Celery first, Yeah, and then we'll get into this.
It's delicious. Hey, it's got negative calorie. It's not that
I care, but it's got negative calories, which is always interesting. Right.

(09:12):
You lose more calories eating it, right, Um, And you
can just do It's just it's just very flavorful. That
and Celery and then includes celery root. Um. Which is
a delight smashed celery root as instead of like mashed
potatoes and you put some apples in there. It's delicious.
And then the Bow, the Bow place next door to
my apartment. Um, they sell the sautepe celery like they

(09:33):
literally treated like brocco, right sautee. Because I've always it's
either raw in a crude type context, or I'm using
it as like my you know, trinity of bell peppers,
onion celery or sofrito if you're doing Italian food, but
never like just taking it as an ingredient, being like
here is the celery stock. No, it's great, it's really

(09:55):
it's I mean it's it's super it's like basically poison
because all it is is corn starch and salt and
then like celery. But like I think they just cook
it for like a second and it's good. You've got
a little crunch, yeah celery. Yeah. The meat sauce that
I make celery is a key, a key ingredient. It's
a little yeah, like a meat uh boling and just

(10:20):
chopped celery. I would have said that if I could
think of the word for it. Yeah. Yeah. And carrots.
There's probably carrots in that right over said that you
need your your onion juice, celery a little panchet. Now, look,
I don't know how much tomato concentrate you use, because
originally in Bologna they don't use a lot of tomatoes

(10:41):
in their cooking. But you know that's up to the
shift themselves. Yeah, I'm a I love a lot of tomatoes.
All right, let's talk about Ethan Hawk. Yeah, let's get
first of all, what do I see in him? I
just see longevity. I see somebody who isn't touching his face.
He looks like he got beat up. Now if you
see him, which is great, and I think he's my age,

(11:02):
but like he's sort of aging even. I mean, here's
a handsome he's in the handsome man club, but like
he's sort of like he's he's got big like divots
in his face and like he's really letting it go.
I just think that's cool. And he does everything right.
He writes novels which I haven't read. But he writes
novels but he does not. Yeah, so I'm just reading
for him. I'm reading he I don't know. I have

(11:25):
no idea. I don't think I could ever get myself
to read this is it? So I guess there's some
complexity to my because I don't think I would ever
read an Ethan Hawk novel, but I admire that he
does it, and supposedly they're good. Um, I don't know
if I'd be able to get past the Ethan Hawk nous,
the fact that Ethan hawf is as Hawk is that
was typewriter like typing it would I think that would
be a bit of a barrier. Um letting myself get

(11:50):
into it. And he calls himself an artist. I like
people like that, Like I like actors who don't like
downplay it. I like actors who are like, no, no, no,
I'm an artist, is what I do. Yeah, And I'm
appreciative of that. He says. This is his one novel
ash Wednesday from two thousand two. Jimmy is a wall

(12:12):
from the army, but with characteristic fierceness and terror. He's
about to embark on the biggest commitment of his life.
Christie is pregnant with Jimmy's child, and she's determined to
head home with or without Jimmy, to face up to
her past and prepare for the future. Somehow barely across
America from Albany to New Orleans to Ohio in Texas.
In a souped up Chevy Nova, Christie and Jimmy are
transformed from passionate but conflicted lovers into a young family

(12:34):
on a magnificent journey. And now he has a new
novel that comes out this year and the first line
of the description is the blistering story of a young
man making his Broadway debut and Henry the fourth just
as his marriage implodes, that man with range, no have range. Yeah,
he's going towards the writing what you know type situation. Yeah,

(12:59):
a lot of floating marriages or strange like what happens
is that they're like what happened with Uma Thurman? You know?
Oh does she because it's their daughter who's the one
that's all famous? Now right? Oh does he have a
famous daughter? Yeah? Uma Thurman, isn't it? And Ethan Hawk's daughter.
I do not keep up too choogy for that. Oh

(13:23):
that's that was the one that was in Uh. Yeah,
she was in Stranger Things the second season or the third,
the last season Maya Hawk and then she was once
upon a time in Hollywood too. Oh, she was like
one of the she was like the charismatic Manson kid
who like kept hitting on Brad Pitt from like on
the corner. That's your kids. Yeah, that's okay. Then she's

(13:47):
oh no, she's she's the one who gets shook when
they try and kill homegirl in the murder scene up
on the Hill. Got it, Okay, that's Maya Hawks someone
who gets she's the shook murderer who like leaves. I
love that movie. It was a lot of fun. All right,
let's talk about Ohio, shall we? They have done something

(14:08):
that we were all like, has it really come to this?
The Vaximillion, which famously a play on maximilion. They're they're
giving out a million dollars to one lucky h dos er,
one lucky person who gets the vaccine, and it seems
like that might be working. So like, sociologically, they've found

(14:32):
that giving out a massive prize to people are giving
out the promise of a of a massive prize to
people as opposed to giving out like dividing that money
out into individuals. The lottery version is obviously much more
of a draw. Well will do a better just saying

(14:53):
the idea of enter for your chance to hit it big,
which is like the reason why, like I would fill
out countless things slips of paper at the mall to
try and win afford explore for my parents that they
wouldn't want. Yeah, yeah, you're like, yeah, we just love
that yeah model, Like it's like publishers clearinghouse too. I mean,
this is it is essentially America, right, Like that's that's

(15:15):
the entire kind of promise of American capitalism. And so
they were like, why don't we use that? What about
the people who already got it? Like so so did
they did? Everybody sort of like alright, like people like
me who are like, yeah, I'm first in line, I
want it, and then like they were all the sort
of lagging people and they're like, all right, we'll give
you guys a million dollars if He's like, that is

(15:35):
sort of rewarding negative and it's incentivizing people to sort
of be skeptics, isn't it. Yeah it does. It does
seem to reward the holdouts for sure, but they are
seeing results that they've seen. So vaccine rates were dropping
in the thirty to seventy year old set a thirty

(15:58):
to seventy four and then out of nowhere, I know,
the small thirty seventy four demographic most adults. Uh. And
then suddenly they spiked by by six percent. It's not
like it's everybody's now vaccinated, but it seems like it's

(16:19):
starting to starting to move in the right direction. Oh
I seen six percent after weeks of decline. That yeah,
a lot of people like that. I mean this people
like a free deal, a chance to win. But I
know like part of it too is they're like racing
the clock because like a lot of states are like, hey, June,
it's call yourself future because it's mask off time, baby,

(16:41):
and we're going back. And I think they're like, let's
try and get as many inoculations in when we go
when we time travel to nineteen and then see what
kind of spread we're dealing with again, and why is
the June mask off things seen as immovable. They're just
like that's how that's all we got. That's all we

(17:03):
got because you do this thing to try and like,
you know, tell the constituents like, hey, guys, if you
if you, if you stay in line, then June can
be a party. And then there in their minds are
like that's great because they will have vaccinations and then
we'll have like two and a half solid months to
get everyone vaccinated. Cut to oh, we're stalling out at

(17:23):
ish and we're about to reopen give him a million dollars. Yeah,
I mean a lot of people were talking about the
tactics to like did it have to be a million?
Couldn't you? Because like it was weekly for five weeks,
they had five million dollars to give away. They're like,
what if you did a half million and you doubled
the length of this campaign, Like that's still a significant

(17:45):
amount of people? Did it have to be a million dollars?
Like is that enough? But then you but then you
open up later? Yeah exactly, Yeah, I'm not done with
that up later, and you also sacrifice the vaxximillion brand
they had already they had this, Yeah exactly. All right,

(18:06):
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back, and let's check in with the Roe v.
Wade Supreme Court story, just because I feel like we've

(18:27):
heard a number of times that like this is a possibility,
but this you know, pending decision, really seems like it
is the the case we've been warned about. The justices
specifically chose a case that lower courts UH had mostly
upheld precedent on. So it basically means that like they're
coming into an argument that seems like it had been

(18:50):
settled and they're starting some ship again. So it's clear
that they have something to say, like they have they
think there's work to be done on what I think
most people thought was settled precedent. Yeah, so this people
are saying like, they wouldn't have done this unless a
major kind of change was coming. And it's probably not

(19:13):
going to be a change in the pro choice direction.
I don't think Amy Coney Barrett is going to be like, yeah,
we're just let's be a little bit more liberal on them.
She was famously tight lipped in or you know when
people were asking those questions because of this exact moment,
you know, because what Trump has put in a third
of the Supreme Court now and we are, yeah, we're

(19:35):
looking at it. This conservative majority that yeah, is is
the the exact thing that people were fearing that of
like what a Trump administration looks like or what you
know what this conservative conservatives that the wheel gives you
all these other justices. Right, But if you're I mean,
if you're fearing it, like, don't you want it sooner
rather than later? For me, it's just like, all right,
this is what's gonna happen if there's all if you

(19:56):
put all these people in Supreme Court and we know
this is coming down the pike at some point, like
let's go because the sooner it happens and the sooner
that they curtail Roe v. Wade, than the sooner people
are going to realize that the only way to change
that is to is to vote. The way that is
to is to kick people out of office and like
and or or create legislation or create a constitutional amendment
like like it. I'd rather do that than just waiting

(20:18):
for the other shooter drop. I think, yeah, more than anything.
That's just how you know American politics works, Like it
has to get to that point for a plurality of
people to be like, oh fuck, we gotta do something
because before when everyone was like warning like no, this
could be bad, like you kind of need to think
about this now. Yeah, I think, Dan, that's what's that.
I don't know what else could happen for things to

(20:40):
actually change, But I mean when you look at all
the state houses across the country, I think far too
many are willing to you know, restrict access to these
kinds of procedures than actually offer them to their to
the constituents. So yeah, it's it's a very dark time.
And I think already now when you see the amount
of people who are having to like navigate their murky
laws to go out of state or find other ways

(21:02):
to have this kind of access, just how it's just
a really bleak picture. But yeah, I mean, I don't
know what this does to help force a conversation about like, well,
if that's the case, what are we doing about Supreme
Court justices and term limits? Are we expanding the courts now?
Because I think maybe, you know, if this does happen,
that makes all of those other conversations happen with a

(21:22):
little more you know. Figure. Yeah, they're saying it would
revert at least twenty states to the pre road days
when basically rich women could get safe abortions and poor
women could not, Right, So I guess my fear would
be that, And I think this is born out a
lot in the past four years that even with something

(21:43):
horrible with legislation or from the Supreme Court, that people
still don't do what they need to do to fix things.
So then when you really would end up with just
like people getting back alley abortions again, I mean unfortunately, Yeah,
the three quarters of the population and want to keep
her in place, like according to polling. So this is

(22:04):
straight up like activists like just out of step with
the rest of the country or with the majority of
the country, I guess. So it would seem to be
like this would be all the reason that the Democratic
Party that Joe Biden would need to be like, Okay,
this is the break glass in case of an emergency moment.

(22:25):
I can I can totally see that being the thing
that like they drop a bombshell ruling and then that's
when Biden like kind of gets moving on the Supreme
Court kind of term limits or you know, expanding the court.
But we shall see. Yeah, I mean there's also many

(22:46):
states too that have like these trigger laws too, that
are saying, like the second the Supreme Court makes a decision, boom,
abortions immediately illegal. Yeah, you know, many states are waiting
for this. Yeah, there's a few states. Um, I don't
on how many, but there's there's a few that have
these like trigger laws in place in regards to Row
and I think more than anything too, it's going to

(23:07):
force us to realize, Okay, we only have each other
to help out. And I think that is going to
lead to a lot of It's going to take a
lot of person like people helping each other because once
the states are just shuttering their doors on this, now
like we're like these activist groups and charities are going
to have to do a lot of the work to
be able to give people access to abortions and things

(23:28):
like this. So yeah, a lot to come. All right,
let's talk about the recount. I mean, we've all been
kind of on the edge of our seat. Why when
are we gonna finally find out who won that fucking election? Guys?
I mean you see the new Ben Garrison cartoon. Oh
have wake up every morning. The first thing I check.
What is stupid as Ben Garrison cartoon is a it's

(23:51):
a the set of dominoes Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Georgia,
and Pennsylvania, with Joe Biden looking scared as the last one,
and the Arizona domino is falling first, hopefully triggering the
audit as they say, and you have Trump saying, thus
Domino Joe. I don't know what that means, but well,

(24:11):
because Joe in this comic is very literally his body
is a domino at the end of which is pretty domino. Joe. Yeah,
like that. Um so in Maricopa County in Arizona, that's
the scene of the like one of the most absolutely
nonsensical attempts at overturning the election. Um if you remember,

(24:34):
this already happened. They did a hand recount. I don't
know if you remember this, and then like courts were like, yeah,
these allegations of fraud are like absolutely baseless, like please
get out of my face, Like it's this election has
been certified. But since the big lie, the Maga faith
will have just been very eager to overturn the results.
So the Republicans in the Arizona Senate subpoenuted the ballots

(24:57):
and then they handed them over to a group of
fucking be it conspiracy theorists who are like, yeah, we
will get to the bottom, we'll find fraud. They're called
I'm not joking. Their fucking name is the Cyber Ninja's
and I just want to read a little bit about them.
The company has no experience in elections and it's CEO
helped to spread the stop the steel conspiracy theories in

(25:17):
the run up to the Capitol riot. It is now
in possession of Maricopa's ballots and voting equipment, so they're
they're being like, we're going to figure it out. We'll
get to the bottom of this. Do we have experience, No,
but we do have experience in baseless conspiracy theories. So
as you can imagine, because we know what happened and
there is no fraud, they have found absolutely funk all

(25:39):
and because it's so poorly run, like they were using
this like county like convention center to do the audit
and stuff, they had to pack up their ship and
pause the operation because it was they were fucking up
so bad. It was taking way longer than they thought
it would that it was interfering with the county's high
school graduations that they helped hold in that building, So
they're like, you gotta pack this ship up. We got

(26:01):
some graduations coming in, man, Like, I know this is
a fun time for you, but we gotta stop. So
now it's gotten to the point where even the Republicans
in Arizona are just over it because it's been such
a clown show that they're like begging them to stop,
which is kind of odd. So what what is the
big news that is causing the ben garrison Like why

(26:26):
why are they so certain that this is a comic
or is that like I'm pretty sure it's from the
last few days. It's because he thinks he's because he's
not in the group that thinks this is stupid or
a joke. It's that he thinks they have things like
they were looking for like bamboo fibers to prove like
things were coming from China and ship and using like

(26:48):
and using like UV purple lights on ballots and people
like forensically, what do you are you even doing? And
they're like, oh, we're checking for stuff. They're like what though,
Oh you'll you'll find out. It's like, dude, this is
all just it's all performative. It's all nonsense. So the
Republicans started, like, you know, asking the Senate President Karen
fan like to please end this, like you started this ship,

(27:12):
please end it. And the board of the Board of
Supervisors in Amricopa County were like really fucking pissed. One
state Republicans calling the process quote a spectacle that is
harming all of us. Uh. This is from the Board
of Supervisors. And mind you, this board of Supervisors is
for Republicans and the fifth is a Democrat. So this
is this board of Supervisors Republicans from Arizona. They said

(27:35):
it's time to make a choice to defend the constitution
in the republic. We stand together to defend the Constitution
and the republic in our opposition to the big lie.
We ask everyone to join us in standing for the truth.
Our state has become a laughing stock. Worse, this quote
unquote audit is encouraging our citizens to distrust elections, which
weakens our democratic republic. You have rented out the once
good name of the Arizona State Senate to grifters and

(27:58):
con artists who are fundraised saying hard, hard earned money
from our fellow citizens. Even as your contractors parade around
the call of scene. See them hunting for bamboo and
something they call kinematic artifacts while shining purple lights for effect.
None of these things are done in a serious audit.
I'm sorry, curious what kinematic artifacts? Yeah? What? It sounds

(28:23):
like a good thing, Like you don't want to ask
to sound stupid, but you're like, what is that something
to do with actor Joe? Strong refraction of waves in
the migration velocity model introduces kinematic artifacts coherent events not
corresponding to actual reflections. Okay, they just wanted to get

(28:44):
that that UV light on there because that makes them
feel like they're and they've done this thing where like
it's so confusing. I've given up trying to understand what
they're saying. And but it's the bottom line, audit is
nonsense and what you're doing is nonsense, and it's ran
by the cyber ninjas. We sound like the fucking bad
guys from like surf Ninjas or some ship. But other

(29:07):
than being like kind of kicked out of the building
because they have because of the high school graduations and
being like shouted down by their own party, Like is
there is this progressing in some way? Like what is
giving the people who are on the side of these
people like hope and nothing? I mean like their response

(29:30):
to them, it's just to that is being like, oh,
here they go. They're afraid of what we might find,
like that you haven't found anything and you're not going
to because a you're looking for something that isn't there
and be you're not even trained to even understand what
you're looking at. Aside from just like this very narrow
motivation to be like we're gonna find Chinese bamboo fibers

(29:53):
on these ballots or some ship. But it's working. They're
they're making money. Yeah, absolutely, And I think it's only
it's another indication. I think this like sort of strongly
worded attempt at stopping it from the Republicans from the
Board of Supervisors, that how deeply fractured, Like just like
the Republican Party is now like where some people are like,

(30:15):
I think we can get a home, They're like, Nope,
there goes the party off, it goes with the cyber ninjas.
By the way, Ben Garrison great example of like the
lower standards of anybody, like for culture that is created
by anybody who's on the side of this, because they
just like will take what they can get. The shadow
work on the on this like when you look at

(30:39):
so the the idea is that these dominoes are supposed
to spell out the word audit in shadows, but that
he has made literally no attempt to make it seem
like that is even conceivably possible that would have took
too much time. He just he just wrote audit books.

(31:00):
Good though Trump always looks good. Yeah, it looks like
Richie rich he's his U. His suit is like kind
of straining at the like kind of groin region, which
I'm assuming is not by accident. Like he's okah of
what's on the US? What do you see there? Tell

(31:22):
us more about what do you see there? All right,
let's talk about the insurrectionists. There's a bipartisan effort to
look at the January six attack, and it's running into
opposition from GOP leadership. Basically, who would have thought? Who
would have thought? Minority leader Kevin McCarthy specifically is out

(31:44):
here being like, oh, it's it's too shortsighted, and it
it doesn't look at all of the political violence that
has occurred in the United States. In other words, they
don't want an investigation into an event that perhaps some
of their own members had a hand in. If you remember,
Kevin McCarthy was on the phone with Donald Trump when
the attack was happening. So I have a feeling, yeah,

(32:05):
that guy doesn't want to have to sit in front
of anything and explain anything to anyone about what was
said or not said. But he now saying, quote, the
renewed focus by Democrats to now stand up an additional
commission ignores the political violence that has struck American cities.
That's talking about the BLM protests, a Republican congressional baseball practice,

(32:26):
that was the Steve Scalise thing from and most recently
the deadly attack on Capitol police in April where that
guy ran into some of the officers near the Capitol. Now,
those are not comparable events, and I understand and that
those we those have been investigated and people understand what
happened there. This, on the other hand, has a lot

(32:47):
of moving parts where there's law enforcement, military involvement, even politicians,
where there's a lot of question marks to like what
exactly happened and so, and now I think their whole
thing is they just want to go way back, broaden
it to the point to be able to raise their
talking points. Like other proposals from the Republicans are, we
can we talk about Antifa. We gotta put Antifa in there,

(33:09):
and we got to put the BLM protests in there
as well, just to I think create this sort of
mass spectacle of like, look, everyone's everyone's doing it. Folks,
So how can we really, you know, consider ourselves safe. So, yes,
that's that's the current state of this effort to figure
out what happened. Yeah, and I mean Antifa was involved

(33:31):
in the in the stormy of the capital, if if
my sources are are correct, if your favorite parlor, yeah,
your favorite parlor count to be believed. And he had
a problem with this effort is John Katco, who is
the ranking member on the Homeland Security Committee, who's the
Republican giving it this bipartisan support. He voted to impeach Trump.

(33:53):
So that's already that's already I think a bad sign
for how much Republican support it's going to get, because
this guy was being like, no, no, I don't know,
I'm voting to impeache I don't know what everyone else
is talking about. So that's already raising question marks. On
top of the fact that once it gets out of
the House, it has to go to the Senate and
then we'll see what kind of will there is to

(34:15):
either completely water it down, you know, amend it. So
it really is like about just whatever they wanted, whatever
else they needed to be about. But I think such
as the the all too familiar theme recently. Right, all right,
let's take one more break and we'll come back and
talk about some bullshit. And we're back and all right,

(34:47):
let's check it with Joe Rogan. That's been a couple
of days, and we we have a quote from one
of the latest episodes of this podcast. Yeah, I just
you know, he's it's a warning to all straight white
men of the world. Uh, he says. He was talking
to his guests. He said, can you make a good
comedy movie anymore? Or have they made it so dangerous
in terms of being canceled that comedy movies are no

(35:09):
longer something you can do. You can never be woken enough.
That's the problem. It keeps going, It keeps going further
and further and further down the line. If you get
to the point where you capitulate, where you agreed all
these demands, it will eventually get to straight white men
are not allowed to talk because it's your privilege to
express yourself when other people of color have been silenced
throughout history. M hm, he says. It will become you know,

(35:33):
you're not allowed to go outside because so many people
were imprisoned for so man in anyway, it's it's it
goes in that direction. I mean, that's good, he gets yeah.
I mean I think he seems to be conflating the
demographic of you know, straight cys gendered white men with

(35:53):
the larger idea of like hegemonic masculinity and white supremacy,
and then you know, turning that into this sort of
narrative of like victimhood, which most you know, whether it's
white supremacy or misogynists, like you need that to be
able to explain why you are transgressing in the other direction,
because it's, oh well, I mean look at us, like,
you know, like we're it's it's we're in the middle

(36:14):
of a fight. So if I'm getting canceled, like this
is what's going on, these are the stakes for me,
is I'm being wiped out by not talking. I mean,
Joe Rogan is one of the most popular podcasters on Earth,
I don't know where, Like, you know, he's not really
canceled wible in that sense, Like, but think about it
this way. I agree with everything you're saying, by the way,

(36:35):
but I've seen a lot of people go after Rogan
for saying that. Saying as he says into a microphone,
as if he's not I agree with he's not cancelable,
but he is speaking for people. The people who are
listening to him don't have microphones and they feel that way, right.
That's and that's the victimhood ideals, the same thing espoused
by you know, white supremacists in Charlottesville are saying we're
not going to get replaced or whatever. It's that same

(36:57):
energy that you need to be able to keep that
movement going. And that's what makes it a force that's
really hard to reckon with because people are like, yes,
I need this sort of rationalization to stay steadfast here
where I am at um. But yeah, it's a it's
a I think there is something to say though, Like
in general, when you have people looking at like, you know,

(37:18):
on on some level, people are not as interested in
this term of like canceling someone is just sort of
like a solution to something when most people are like,
we need to drive our society forward and we need
to evolve, and part of that is about being able
to demonstrate that there are opportunities to grow. And I
think for people who are so obsessed, like in the
Joe Rogan camp, it's just a very to zero sum

(37:41):
game because some people are making it a zero sum game,
which is like you're canceled. That's it, goodbye, off to
the desert landscape and and just enjoy your time there
where On some level, people need to be shown that
you can funk up, be shitty and find a way
to grow past that. It's to be completely it's it's

(38:02):
not a it's not a proposition. People aren't going to
be interested in. And I think even like you know,
might like when I talk about my own growth or
anyone's growth over time, there were times when I felt
like a Joe Rogan type person was like, man, well,
look what the fund you can do? What's what's the problem.
And then it takes a second few to realize, like, well,
these things can change. And I also need to be
open enough with myself to understand it's hard to do that. Yeah,

(38:25):
it's me. You gotta like calm down for a second
and just like think about it. And it's I also
think it's funny that he's coming out of it's it
is funny that he's coming out of from the place
so there are no good comedies anymore. Hey, it's it's
it's it's not untrue. I will say it's hard. It's
hard to find good comedy films these days. But that
had says more about the film film industry than it
does about comedy. But it also says something. It's just generationally. Generationally,

(38:50):
it is a story as oh, this comedy itself, that
comics always feel like they're getting put out to pasture
because comedy evolves, Like I've been involved in things that
were made twenty years ago and like it's not funny anymore.
And it's not because you need to get canceled. It's
just not funny anymore. Yeah, we've moved on, we've all
which is an interesting vibe to feel that, like the
thing that you've been it must be you know, fuck them.

(39:12):
I don't care, but like it's his problem, but it is.
I do get that feeling. He's feeling something. I just
don't think it's it's the fear of getting canceled. I
think it's just being irrelevant in some way, right, or like,
how do you keep up when you're used to just
making really superficial jokes about people's like masculinity or what
straightness or whatever, and then like you keep coming back

(39:33):
to the same old jokes those jokes, right, now years
they're sort of stupid, and I'm not going to do
the work to try and like be more and more
introspective again and find some new analysis and observation I
can take to the stage to make people laugh. I
like my old shitty jokes. I will say this. I
would appreciate it if Joe Rogan could say there are
no good comedies right now, and then instead of going

(39:54):
into fucking three paragraphs about about wokeness, tell me something
funny about wokeness. Like the thing about calm is that
you can you can you can look at what's around
you and and makes intelligent jokes that helps you laugh
at yourself. Like there's ways to sort of react to
what he says he sees and and not alienate people
and not complain and stop your feet make a joke

(40:16):
about it, Like you don't have a joke about that,
then you don't have a joke about anything that's going
on now, right A fair point, yeah, because I think
at the end of the day, like he has to
put this sort of movement of like sort of diametrically
opposed to him and that sort of philosophy of comedians
to be like and this is and these are the stakes,
and then we that way we can stay fixed and

(40:36):
fight from here. Yeah, all right, let's talk about this
Daily Beast article about why we hate the sounds of
our own voices. From full disclosure, I'll say I don't
hate the sound of my own voice. I know it
was suggested. However, I will say I did have a
reaction to the first time I ever heard my own record. Yeah,

(40:57):
it's definitely something you need to get used to. We
we spend hours a day hearing ourselves back, hearing our
own voices back into our headphones, and it's a It
starts out as a very horrifying experience. I think a
lot of the sweating and uncomfortable nous I did in
the first year this podcast was just my brain trying

(41:17):
to make sense of the fact that it was it
was having to hear its own hear my own voice back. Yeah,
there was. There's this assistant professor of autoaryngeology at the
University of Washington who like deals with people's voices and
like surgeries and with your like vocal cords and things

(41:38):
like that, and he talks about just sort of when
he hears people talk about their own voice and that
they want to address it. He has, you know, there's
been a lot of studies about this, but he brings
up the fact that this whole phenomenous idea of like
people not standing their voices is just part physiology, part
psychology obviously. So like when we're hearing our voices over
that through our headphones on speakers, it's traveling through the

(42:01):
sound waves traveled through the air into our into our skulls,
and it gets to our small earbones and it's like
a lighter sound versus when what we're used to, which
is the I'm hearing it straight out of my skull tone,
which is a little bit smoother, a little bit basier.
And so when we hear the two next to each other,
it's just jarring because we're so tied to this voice

(42:23):
that resonates in our skulls that it's like looking in
a fun house mirror of yourself and you're like, is
this me? I mean, like it's specifically with a fun
house mirror metaphor, like they've found the same but for
perception of our bodies and reflections, like they put people's

(42:44):
like showed people pictures of essentially what their body looked like,
but made it so that they couldn't really tell that
it was their body, and when it wasn't their own,
they rated it as like much more attractive and like
in better healthier then when they were able to recognize
it as their own, Like yeah, yeah, I would love

(43:09):
for somebody to do that to me. And like even
with the voices, they did the same thing. They had
people like listen to their recorded voices and and rate
their you know, how nice they thought their voice was.
And then they had just clinicians also just listen to
these audio clips and just rate the voices, and you know,
across the board, it was just clear people were so

(43:31):
negative about their own voices, and the clinicians that were
like really positive. You're like, no, nothing's yeah, okay, great,
great great. So it really is like this, it's not that,
like you say, for people who hate their own voice,
not that you sound like a total ship head and
you want to go full van go on yourself because
you don't like what you're hearing. It's just that we
have this, you know, I think, propensity to be very

(43:52):
self critical and then these sort of moments offer those
like you know, opportunities to just be like what the
fun that's me no, but I'm this thing. Have you
learned to like your voice or or or do you
just learn to not care? I don't know if I
definitely don't dislike my voice. I'll say, like, the first
time I ever heard it, I think it was the

(44:13):
first time when I was when I was a kid
and I was making a home movie with a friend
and then we played it back and I was like,
what the funk that sound like this? Like? And I
was like eleven, you know, and that was just enough
to like whatever. And then my voice got deeper, and
I remember high school the same thing happened again, and
it I was a little more secure in my voice.

(44:35):
But then as time goes on and I think doing
podcasting more and things like that, I'm like, oh yeah,
I like what I'm hearing in my headphones. Again, Dan,
I know you you've hosted many many podcasts. Have you
ever been through the hell of trying to edit them yourself?
I have? In the very beginning I was editing something.

(44:56):
I was at the very beginning too, and I was
so brutal. I'm myself is that like it was so like,
cut this whole section. I sound like an idiot? Like
it was so bad. It's funny. I think I started
when I was a little more I think I just
had It wasn't about having competed with my voice. I
just had a little more confidence period, and so like
it was like the lie, Like there's so many things

(45:18):
I could do next, something better. Changing my voice is
not one of them, right, right, So I just kind
of like ignore it, not ignore it, but just like
their ways just to sound less annoying. It's hard to
sound better. It's hard to sound like the it's hard
for the tone of your voice to sound better, right right, Yeah,
I just auto tuned to the whole thing, so it
sounded like I was singing beautifully. Yeah, it's like, yeah,

(45:39):
co host t Pain is here, thanks for joining us.
This weirdly is I think a good advertisement for therapy
because I just think in basically every uh, every aspect
of self perception, we are absolutely the worst a judging ourselves.

(46:01):
Like there's just that lens or fun house mirror, whatever
you wanna call it. You know that we are the
most important people in our world, and like there's just
a lot of memories and values tied up in how
we perceive ourselves. Like whether it be in the mirror
or our voice or what what our what our problem

(46:25):
is on a daily daily basis. Yeah, we're ore, We're
our greatest critics. And yeah, I think part of like
part of even just being in therapies like realizing to like, yeah,
you don't got to listen to that critical voice all
the time. That's not actually useful, just so you know,
Like I don't know, I've I've lived in it with
it for so long and it's it's kind of hard.
It's kind of like my rotten tomatoes that I love

(46:46):
to check on all the time and I'm always rated
hot shit on it. So uh yeah, but I think, yeah,
it's I think to your point, Dan, when you're asking, like,
is it that I don't care? I think, over time
it does become that I don't care because it becomes
less important in my evaluation of who I am or
what I am to other people. It's more about like

(47:06):
what my internal lived experiences rather than how I'm valuing
that or adjudicating that against external opinions or factors. All right, Uh,
let's talk really briefly about Ariana Grande. Uh. She is
no longer just getting engaged to people. She's now married
to somebody, and it's somebody that named Dalton Gomez, who

(47:30):
looks like he looks like Pete. He does look a
little like Pete. I mean he's just a young, good
looking twenty two I think year old, like little younger, okay,
looks like an infant. Doesn't he look like a child,
like a little made like a little we man. I
don't know. This is after years of her having tragic

(47:53):
to bad luck with relationships with famous people, she quarantined
down with a young, not famous real estate agent and
they got married the other day, And I just wanted to,
you know, shout, shout out that decision. I feel like
the saber metrics on celebrity couples is that this generally

(48:15):
works out. Particularly if a famous person marries someone after
they're like it seems weird. It seems like it would
just create the biggest like you know, imbalance of status
or whatever. But a lot of the time when somebody
marries someone while they're famous and the person is not
famous like that, that seems to work better than if

(48:37):
they're both famous, or if they become famous after they've
already married somebody who's not famous, like Julia Roberts is
still married to the you know, hot cameraman that she
married after a bunch of famous failed relationships with famous people. Yeah,
Danny just Alba married Cash Warren just based on his

(48:57):
name alone, I think. But he was a p A
when they got married, I think, right, yeah, gave hope
to every young man. To me, Oh my god, I
have chills because I remember like, oh, the p A
because I was a p A at the time, and
I was like, yes, this is this is my this

(49:17):
is my track to passive stardom. That guy must exude
confidence if you're a p A and you're like, yeah,
totally yeah, that guy just must have it rather than
like nervously stealing snacks from the crafty table like I
I don't know, I don't know. Fun all these Orioles
getting my jacket pocket for the ghost reminds me of

(49:38):
like when there was there's that run I think in
the nineties in college football where there were a bunch
of like really great, like Heisman caliber players named Champ
and it was just like, well, yeah, I mean their
their parents named them Champ. Of course they were going
to be fucking awesome. Like just based on the confidence alone,
I bet just being named Cash were in Like he

(50:00):
was just like, yeah, no, I obviously I should marry
Jessica Alba. What what are you gonna do? Champ is
such a great name. Champ is a cool name. Wait,
who else is there? I'm just thinking a Champ Bailey.
Maybe it wasn't all named Champ, but there were a
lot of like really cool names that were like like
just basically imbuing that person as like the greatest, And

(50:25):
it always made an impression that like that that's got
to be a slight leg up when you were just
forming your ability to store memories and like the first
thing you learn is that your name is Champa. There's
just thinking to who's I mean, who else are you
thinking that? Were you thinking of Champ Bailey specifically? I
was thinking a Champ Bailey. Uh, that's the draft class.

(50:48):
So you got Peter Warwick, the Heisman nominees of Chad Pennington.
Chad Pennington. It wasn't the same year. I just remember
there being the era the era, there were like a
handful of those people. It's really cool names. I like
how you're like those are really cool names, Like, right,
it's such a great simple way to look at the world, Right, man,

(51:13):
that's a great name. Yeah. I'm like asking my mom, like,
why don't you name me Champ that I feel like
the cult is a good is a good name for
football players, for anyone. Yeah, but like that seems to there.
If you're named Cult, you're gonna be good at football
in some way. Or on ninety day fiance combination of

(51:34):
a gun and an athletic animal. Yeah, pretty cool. Alright.
Uh and finally, uh, we we talked last year. This
might be a correction. Uh, We're we're gonna yeah. Story.
So we talked in twenty nineteen about how the story
of the creation of Flaming Hot Cheetos, the origin story

(51:56):
of Flaming Hot Cheetos, was being turned into a movie
about how a man working as a janitor for frieda
Lay goodwill hunting his way up the corporate ladder thanks
to his recipe for a new spicy Cheetoh. The movie
is titled Flame and Hot, and it is being produced

(52:16):
by Eva Longoria and it is directive that's right by
Eva Longoria. So I don't I don't know how I
feel about this. So now the company is coming out
and basically saying none of this is true, that they
were test marketing this before Montagna is the supposed in

(52:37):
ventor was claims to have even invented it. They were
test marketing it in a completely different market. And that
who was like this team of very like hot shit, uh,
you know, food scientists who came up with the idea,
which it's kind of like the exact average of if

(52:57):
you asked me to describe the invention of any food product,
That's what I would guess is that there was a
team of like marketers and food scientists who got together
were like, hey, these seem to be popular in a region,
like I think it was Detroit here, let's develop our own.
And they made a very popular food as opposed to

(53:21):
the flame and hot version of events where he literally
had a shack in his backyard that he like had
his spices in and would like put spices on like
Cheetos too. That's the part I don't understand. It's flaming
hot Cheetos like cheetah. Anything in Cheetos is not like
you're not putting like paprika. It's all chemicals, right, like

(53:43):
you need literal test tubes and centrifuges, like how in
a shock behind his house it's more like the flavor
profile being of like you know, because it starts being
based in real world flavors and then synthesized into this
other thing that canet mash produced. Might have them Oh yeah,
flame and hot cheet Oh yeah yeah, I love flaming
hot cheetos. Can't can't stop beating him when you start

(54:06):
hearting him. That's a hard part about him. But like,
it's interesting because I've worked in places where an idea
I had was claimed to be the idea of someone
above me, and the or and that becomes the story
of a concept is like, oh no, it's that guy
that made it, and there's no I mean like, I'm like, well,
can you get the emails out? Because you know, I

(54:27):
pitched that thing, and I know it came out of
this officer, but that actually came for me. And when
I read like sort of how some of the people like,
you know, we looked into it and this person wasn't
connected it. He also feels like it's very a very
realistic possibility too, is like that maybe this guy really did,
you know, get these people to say we need to
consider this. They take his idea and on all the

(54:49):
documentation it comes out of this office where he may
have worked, but attributed to someone else because they don't
want to admit someone who didn't even have anything to
do with our department actually gave us this like idea
and we don't want to, you know, we don't want
to give any credence to this idea. I don't know,
but that's where I'm just kind of like, I'm a
little It just seems weird because they were letting this
be the you know, they were saying that we we

(55:11):
we allowed the rumor to stand for long enough. It's like, well,
what so the woman who was like primarily she was
a recent grad from a the Warton of Food Science,
I guess, and she, uh, she was the main driver
of the Flaming Cheetoh flaming hot Cheetoh development process, and

(55:31):
somebody brought this to her attention. She since retired every
most people who were involved with the development were retired,
and so they weren't really paying attention. And then she
kind of launched an inquiry to be like I'm being
removed from this story. Uh, and it's just not true.
And that's now how this is coming out, So you

(55:52):
don't feel so maybe I mean yeah, if if I
were her Lynn Greenfield, is that here, I would feel bad.
I mean, if if I got a raise from the
Flaming Hot Cheetos story, i'd feel bad too. But once
you sort of back up as a company the story,
just give everybody the freaking story. It's a nice story.
The guy like sort amount of thing, like, everybody, just

(56:13):
give him the story. Give Lynn some other cheeto flavor, right, yeah,
I mean one of the kind of ideas is that
maybe he invented like the hot popcorn flavor, which because
Flaming hut Cheetos was already being pushed in marketing material
in before the ceo who he pitched Flaming hut Cheetos

(56:38):
two in his story was even like the CEO of
the company. So it's the timeline doesn't really line up. Um,
so they think maybe he developed another spicy snack and
it's just being tossed together that emerges from like, you know,

(56:58):
the provenance of ask me. He should be happy because
now his movie actually sounds interesting to me. Before the
movie sounded kind of boring. It's like, great, poor guy
in Vince Cheeto like, but now it's sort of like
there's a tug awar at the end, it's got it's
got more twists and turns. We'll see if they acknowledge
that part, because I know like on some level they
think it could be a Christian film because that's the

(57:19):
production it is, like, yeah, and his like he says
like like God helped him conceive the idea. Oh no,
so the production stories don't have a lot of twists
and turns general, they sort of straight ahead. It's going
to end with like Lynn Greenfield being like smited by
the Lord or something, or just them coming through and

(57:44):
being like we had this idea from our science and
you know then, But I like that our writer j
m is pointing, is pointing out that they could also
approach this as like the All the President's Men, where
the l A Times is trying to get to the

(58:04):
truth of this elaborate conspiracy. So that's another angle you
can take on it. Right, Maybe these maybe this is
just instead of being one small movie that's made next year,
it could be all the movies that are released next year. Yeah.
The new podcast. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Dan just

(58:24):
pricked up. Yeah, well, hey, I said it first, I
send it to yourself. She does mail it to ourselves.
Jack mail this episode to ourselves. That's so old school.
I used to do that. I used to do we
always we love That joke wasn't a joke, it was
really you would always mail it to yourself. I've done that.

(58:47):
Or you have an idea and and you you you
don't have the balls to be like I'm cooperating this,
but you mail it to yourself and then you don't
open it, and then they have time stamped, then you
have time stamp. It was a rough It was a
different time, man. Yeah. The number of dumb ideas I've
like claimed, yeah, well, like I was, I'd open it,

(59:09):
but then it would be null employed But look it's
from eight ties into the flame and hut Cheetos thing
is my big idea when I was in my twenties.
And this is a great indicator of how dumb I was.
Was Pretzel Eminem's I was. I was like demanding that
people hear me out that Pretzel Eminem's were going to

(59:31):
be great, and then like five years later they became
a thing and they're not that good. They're like, Okay,
they're not as good as I thought they were going
to be. So first I was like, oh, they took
my idea, which like, that's not how that's not how
capitalism works. Man, you don't just say it. Uh. And
then right, it's yeah, it's it's always a hard uh,

(59:54):
just a hard one to go up against when you're
claiming you you were back by a corporation to this
massive idea. I thought of Fabreeze first. Anyways, Eva Longoria
hit me up. We'll we'll tell my story about Prett's leminom. Uh. Dan,
it's been a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist? Man?

(01:00:16):
Where can people find you? Follow you, experience you uh
d Toberski on Twitter? And then the line is on
is on Apple uh podcasts and wherever podcasts are available.
What is the line? For the most part, it's called
the line. Yeah about Eddie Gallagher. Yeah, about Eddie Gallagher,
War crimes, Navy Seals, Forever Wars. It's pretty intense, but

(01:00:40):
it's it's a it's a good chucking listen. Yeah, I
was listening to the first episode. It's it's really a man. Yeah,
it's it grabs you, and I think also really challenges
the listener in a way to sort of consider the
worldview of these people who are like fucking warrior killer
types and you're like, there's a there are many like

(01:01:02):
these people are not living a normal in a normal
place like you or I are, and it Yeah, it's
a really interesting good Uh. And is there a tweet
or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?
Oh god, um, no, okay, here you get honest. Uh, Miles,

(01:01:23):
where can people find you? And what's the tweet you've
been enjoying? Uh? You can find me on Twitter and
Instagram at Miles of Gray. And then also the other
podcast four twenty Day Fiance, you know, to talk about
the easy goingness of fiance. Some tweets that I like.
First one is from Joanna Bournes at Robotics tweeted, Hey, hey,

(01:01:46):
my team at Big Corporation is hiring most depressing job
title you've ever heard work with me. Very interesting tweet
Jordan Morris, I guess from last week. He also tweeted,
there don't from the six the Minutes thing, you know,
the one the dude who had the goatee who is talking.
I don't know if you remember, there's a very yeah

(01:02:08):
that and he he has an image of this guy
and he says the guy in sixty minutes, who told
us UFOs are real looks like he'd also a corner
you at a party and explain his complicated method for
getting out of d U I s but can't can't
just be a penny. It's got to be a penny
and a dime under your tongue. And then they can't
right right right you They won't even know, and then

(01:02:30):
finally a Lauren order at Kim. Laura Dashian tweeted, d
c is girl Boss and yc is Gate Keep and
l a is Gaslight. This clears things up. I think
it does. I think I think we're all wise right now.
Uh tweet I've been enjoying. Let's go with April said,
I used to think Stockholm syndrome was bad, but now

(01:02:52):
that I have it, I think it's good. Who April
at auto guy in files so auto A U t
O G y N E f I L E S
guy in Aisles. You can find me on Twitter, Jack

(01:03:13):
Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song are we recommending today? This is a track

(01:03:37):
from from a track called Yuinion Why i N y
i N And it's called Paw fin h Aw Space
p h i N. And it's got a very like
psychedelic surf rock kind of vibe to it, Like if
you like Krungbin, you'll probably dig this track. But it's
also got sort of like these like Asian like melodic
scale guitar licks in it as well. It's just a nice,

(01:03:59):
nice listen, you know. It kind of takes you want
to like going on a surf tour of Bali or
song yeah Union. All right, Well, the Daily Zikes the
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(01:04:21):
to you all then. Bye bye