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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's a game of inches. You know what they say?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Those inches are everywhere around you, uh, everywhere. Sorry, I
just got to get my al pacino right, and then
we can bring him in all around you. Those inches
got a great as.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I got to say, you have to get great ass.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
How about how about we bring Tim in and you
talk for as long as you can as al pacino
a ready he comes team Yeah man, mm hmm yeah,
have a bit of water water? Okay, too much?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Tim?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Good?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Good after night? Yeah man, good morning?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, Tim Batch.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
The Batman, Batman Forever Batman begins, that begins, the Dark
Knight Rises.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's a great.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Film, never a true We're spoken yeah, and accurately describing
my situation.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It is twenty five to seven in winter in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Okay, and it's Tuesday there too. Yeah, it's a fucking
upside down. It's top to TV.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Jack, What are you saying about Batman's like when you
look at him from the back, he got.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
A great ass and you got your head all the
way up here.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
This is an energy that I hope can be maintained
for an entire energy.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's just talking.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's just how I talked him.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
FANTASTICIM did an entire did episode. We got superstoned. I
thought it would be funny to start the episode with
accents from Tennessee and managed to maintain it for forty minus.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Goddamn.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I don't know how a curate it was, but it
was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Is that what Jack?

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Is?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Is Jack doing a Tennessee accent to this?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't think I don't know Tennessee, Tennessee. I really
been really enough.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
The location is is an emotion rather than a city
stague occasion.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yea, even though I'm supposed to be from upstate New York.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
You're someone's dead with what you have a complicated relationship
with your son, someone's uncle Tim?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Do you want to reveal the answer? Jack?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's supposed to be supposed to be al Pacino. I was,
I was trying to do al Pacino, but it.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Is definitely a al Pacino.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's a version of Matt's you Are That was something
Hello the Internet and Welcome to season four on one,
episode two of Trnilly's Guys. Yeah, that's a production of
iHeart Radios podcast. We'd take a deep to have into America.
Share coucousness and it is Tuesday, August twelfth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, yeah, pretty good day, pretty good National Julienne Fries Day,
which I didn't know that was a thing. Like, I
guess this's the skinniest. Yeah, shoe strings, and I guess I.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Was bitterer than shoe strings even.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean the picture that they're showing here, these
don't even look like French fries. I think they have
I think they're showing a tie papaya salad. I'm not joking,
this is any I'm like, I think this is papaia side.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
That those are times with a salad.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
They just put it as Julian French fries running this
fucking website and like a lot of Americas probably don't
know what Yeah, you know, tye, papaya salad is.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
No, they don't, they don't. They're like, isn't it supposed
to be sweet? Although it is fun to watch someone
eat actual type of bios out for the first time
realizing how spicy that it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
It hits like when you first put in your mouth,
it doesn't feel like it's gonna be that spice.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Man.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Some of the some of the strongest after burners I've
ever experienced.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tell them it's also National Vinyl Record Day. I can
get behind that, and also National Middle Child Day.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hey, shout out to us middles out there, just desperate
for your approval and attention, just to be observed. Shout
out to us. Superducer Catherine, Oh, shout out all the
middle children, all of them, all of them. All Right.
My name's Jack O'Brien aka Oh, Michael Jackson, Billy Jean,

(04:41):
ain't no wood or as I seen, can make your
pants smell like this Indiana, Ohio. Jack O'Brien has to
know it wasn't Wooter Rice. It's piss. Oh piss yeah,
I said, piss. Wooter Rice ain't yellow like this? Oh

(05:02):
piss yeah, I said, piss what or Ie don't quite
smell like this? That one courtesy Christiama guci Man on
the discord The Great Christyama gucci Man. In reference to
the discourse around the song Home, Miles, did you miss
that the Tiny Desk concert Home?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, you were abroad, Yes, I think I did miss that.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Everybody was talking about you know that song was like oh.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I thought you were doing Bob.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Dylan or some shit I was I was trying to do,
uh Sharpened the Magnetic Zeros.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew someone who played accordion
in that band.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh hell yeah. Man. There's like a tiny desk concert
clip that was going viral with people just being like
worst song ever made, like and the lyrics written on
the video so you could just see that it was
like peanut butter chocolate pie. I Love My guy was like,

(06:09):
oh yeah, random ship.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Hey, as long as everybody's white and wearing linen, all good.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The girl singer at one point does a smacks her
head and does like a they're like bone and like
her hat falls off. It's got a great performance.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Anyways, this was new or the old like they're old. Ye, Like,
there's no way people are still checking for Edward Sharp
and then Zeros are they?

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I just I don't think most people knew he looked
like that partially, you know, that had white dreads energy
and uh and then like hadn't really thought about the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh yeah, there's Homegirl. That's Nora on accordion. Shout out
to Nora on Nora ond Yeah. But yeah, also reference
to the fact that I wrote a ride down the shore,
and someone had apparently slipped a peece of frozen piss
into my pocket before I went on the ride and
then came off. My pants were wet and everybody claimed
I pissed myself, but that's not true.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host, mister Miles Gras.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I mean, how do I follow that? AKA, I'll just
keep it short. It's me Miles g and the Place
to Be just touched down back in the valley. Thank
you so much for having me the people of Denmark,
and I'm so sorry that in numerous times you hear
I heard Danish people talk about how Greenland is not
for sale. I'm not interested. There's a lot of apologies

(07:37):
being exchanged when they're like, oh, extangelists, They're like it's like, oh,
I'm sorry, and like I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. They're like, no,
I'm sorry. It's like sort of like, oh God, you
had to admit you were an American.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Because the thing is.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I didn't mean yeah, not like ooh I'm sorry, and
I'm like, no, I'm sorry, and then we do laugh
and I'm like they're like, no, I don't have a
guy was like, I don't have a problem with it.
I was like, no, I should yeah, And I was
like I was like, bro, I don't even funk with
that place, and they don't.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, boy yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Anyway, shout out to the wonderful people of Copenhagen.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Anyways, welcome the place to be.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
We're thrilled to be joined in our third by one
of our favorites, a multiple award winning comedian, podcast or
producer who co hosts the podcast The Worst Idea of
All Time with Montgomery Very Funny chat show host. Welcome
back to the show, the hilarious, the talented tim Ba.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Hello everybody, and welcome to the next day of your
life from Altiro, New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
What's it like in the future.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
It's still a little dicey Okay, what fun. I haven't
fixed everything up just yet.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
All right, We're close though, right.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
We kept saying fuck this day over and over again.
I thought that was going to be What did it?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Tuesday's National Record Day? Come on, Jack's keep your chin
out the batman.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Anyway, that's Great's back. Pacino's back. You are you are
coming to us. I'm a little later. You are all
the way tomorrow, because I'm on the east coast miles
on the west coast. You are all the way tomorrow.
Cutting it always always amazed by your ability to be
up bright eyed, dressed in clothing. So it's well done

(09:32):
on that.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I don't know about bright eyed I heard. So we
get a lot of fan mail because our podcast is tremendous.
We get emails of people coming. And someone yesterday said
on the podcast, since you've been doing all the video
of the of the podcast, I've now got an opportunity
to see what you look like after all these years.
And I had no idea you look so much like

(09:54):
Willem Dafoe. And it's true, I do look a bit
like Willem Defoe. And I think the most that I
look like well we both have.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Very tired eyes.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm giving you can you go like this.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Just like oh oh yeah, oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Am I trying to go for like hobgoblin? Is that
what you want from me?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
There's like has a little bit of a gargoyle like
energy to me. It's like it would be if your
face was mixed with a gargoyle on a like Seventh
Avenue building in New York City, Like then you would
get William Dafoe.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, I think you're more handsome than William Befo.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
To be honest, it's very kind. I think William defot
is a handsome man, and I think he seems like
a cool guy.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, he seems like I feel like he'd be a
good He seems like a good hang. He's up for
some banter.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think, Yeah, he is doing the ads, but the ads,
his ads are for beer, and he's like hustling people,
stealing people's money, so there's like an edge to him.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I reckon he's He's got the perfect attitude to it, though.
I think he's doing the aid so that he can
make every art house film that he wants to and
still keep his house.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
He's like, yeah, I'll knock out a you know, PBT
ad or whatever so that I can do independent films
for the next three years my house.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's right, that's the way to go.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's the way to do it. I'm not crazy about
Steve Martin and Martin Short doing wells far.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
But it's a little hard to attack, especially if it
was like you guys are probably making enough for him.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
What is its in the buildings, Tim, We're going to
get to know you a little bit better in a
moment person.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
We can tell listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Uh,
we are going to talk about a date psychology survey
that they surveyed asking sis straight women what what are
the most and least attractive hobby as a man can have?
And the answers will shock you. Now, I think they

(12:06):
do shed a little late on some things that are
happening in our gast So we're going to talk about
that one of top that's specifically the Sydney Sweeney thing,
why that's such a big deal for Republicans at the moment,
All of that plenty more, But for Tim, we do
like to ask our guest, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Waffle recipe two words and a unique insight into how
I'm spending about every second morning at the moment at
my house, which is making waffles for my one and
three year old.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Wow, he's got a two boys.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
The three year old's getting pretty picky with what he
eats and trying to like find the balance between.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Not making it a huge deal.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know that eat is vegetables and fully pot him
off vegetables for the rest of his life and get
some things that he's actually going to eat and something
that he will never turn down at the moment, as waffles.
And we've got this cool waffle lion, so I don't
mind making them buzz.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, and you zeeland at the moment.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Butter is horrifically expensive, so it's it's probably not the
most economical way for me to be spending my mornings
just putting like half a stick of butter into a
waffle lion.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Is waffle mix not just readily available or like best Quick?
Isn't that where we're just just kind of lying around
what do you actually make it?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
You just buy it as a pre made thing? Oh
this is America, baby, God damn, you don't have it
in yourself. Man, figure out how to make waffles.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's not hard. Here's what's in it.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
And the only reason I have to google it all
the time is the quantities. Baking powder, basic flour, a
little bit of salt, two eggs warm and milk and
that's the secret ingredient. You got to warm that milk
up a little bit, two eggs, you separate them out
you west up the whites, and then you combine it
all afterwards, a quarter of a cup of sugar. I

(14:04):
don't know why I've put the quantity of the sugar
and nothing else. But then you go and either vegetable
oil or a bunch of butter.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
So much better.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, it's got to be.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
But this is good. And now people instead of regoogling
the quantities, they're just gonna index this web this podcast
and just keep that podcast, keep playing it over and
over again.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
You've got the aden.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
You get to hear the ingredients.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
That's right, it's the quantities of everything. You should be sweet.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
But I think it's a window into, like, you know,
how small life does become when you've got two kids
under five in the house. I went through my my schestreet.
It's a very boring work related stuff. Yeah, you can't
give me this time.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
A similar thing, which is like why two and a
half year old not like food all the time?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Exactly really good?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that's why you you have really good, really good
you know before the show two and a half year
old not like food?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Risk? Why two point five year old not like food
all the time?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
You're a professional. Communicate to my man.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's all about It's all about the economy of words.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
As I learned, Google's like not honestly, man, could you
just be like a little more specific?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah, like in particular or I would love if that
was the tone of Google. Yeah, come on, I have
the total of human knowledge, but can you help me
out a fucking little.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, a fucking mind reader.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Do you know Google when they have a search like that,
are they like ding ding ding ding, We got one,
you know, and like start serving you like you know,
viruses and ship that like that. Older people are going
to click on you know what I mean, Like people
who don't know how to use Google, Like, do they
adjust their search results so that they're designed to just

(15:58):
rob the elder?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Definitely?

Speaker 5 (16:00):
I reckon there are advertisers on there who have made
viruses and they've figured out what boomers, old roomers search
who don't know. But here's the other thing. When's the
last time you had to deal with a computer virus?
There used to be a big part of our lives.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Back when it was like you had the family computer
that was in the one room that yeah, everyone was
on virus spot.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
She had to actually know what Norton was and how
to use it, and now it feels like they've kind
of gone away. Every now and then your whole ship
will be rocked by some like crypto scam with a
encrypt you hard drive and hold it to ransom.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
But apart from that, it's pretty smooth sailing on the
for real.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
What is something tim that you think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Pamila Anderson, we forgotten about her, I think as a society.
On pam Naked Guns Back, she's doing the press tours
and it's so nice to see her. She is, I'm
sure all listeners will know, has taken a stand to
basically an all her public appearances not we makeup now.
So she's just totally fresh faced. She hasn't had the

(17:06):
work done. She looks beautiful, and she just seems like
a really cool person. It appears that her and Liam
Neeson have probably hooked up off the back of making
the movie together, and it's just nice. It's just like
it's too nice. It's it's you know, it's your mom
has found a new fowler and you're a little worried

(17:28):
at the start, but then you go to dinner and
they're real cute together and he just seems like totally
smitten with her and a lovely dude.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So your mom in this metaphor is Liam Neeson.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
My mom, it's right today is always.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
My stepdad will always be Qua gone Jin.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's seeing them together. I was like and hearing how
they just sort of give each other such glowing compliments
in these like appearances. I'm like, oh, look at them.
I think we're They're like they've been through some ship,
both of them. So I'm like, I feel like, hopefully,
I hope y'all have really found that happiness.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's what it is, right, happiness. Miles. You can't get
your mind out of the gutter when it comes to
pam Sorry, man, sorry bro habits, old habits.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh shit, wishing Pamela Anderson well, saying.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Happiness you deserve, Pamela, No.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It is.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
It's off the back of like we're, you know, a
little bit aware of what they've been through in their lives,
Pammeer Anderson man, because there's a lot of people who
sort of didn't make it through that maelstream of being
a sexual object from such an early age during in retrospect,
a pretty toxic time and the culture to be a
woman on screen like the early nineties on this and

(18:52):
Pamor Andersen was sort of like at the Apex, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, there's privacy invaded. Had you know they made a
movie about it? Bad times.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Had to sit across from Jay Leno constantly like hey
what about this when you had Nikki you think she's
like you shut up what I have to say.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
I have enjoyed everyone's sort of reassessment of Jay len over. Yeah,
and like John Oliver's comments about he's like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Not fucking taking comedy advice from Jay.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
That god fuck jas Well.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
It was the king for so.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Long, but I think now that he's gone, everyone's like, yeah,
that guy, he sucks right right, I'm here for it
here then.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Me, I'm still still Lenno. Tim Lenno FU Team Coco,
Tim Leno from.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Because You've got a good chin, You're you've got chin
game strong, and you see a fellow brother in arms
and copping strays and you're like, not on my watch.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Although gene On Jean's my there's my go to get
off this podcast and get into three types of genes
of genes, just like my man Jay.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I feel like Jay Leno has been pretty even like
when he was King of Late Night it was it
was kind of I put it in the same family
as like Big Bang Theory in that it's like, as
it was popular, everyone was like, who the fuck are
these people? Love this shit?

Speaker 5 (20:23):
It's the phenomenon of being in the middle of everyone's
love and hate, right, It's like it's not offensive enough
for anyone to turn it off. Now, I were very
few people at that in love with this sort of
TV character, but they just exist enough in the middle
to keep swimming around and maintaining. I hate to say,
I'm gonna say it because I don't know if you
guys can Jimmy Fallon, you know, definitely the proto example

(20:45):
of that At the moment.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I will say that what I just said is probably
misleading in the direct, like, probably too insulting to the
Big Bang Theory, because I do know people who actually
are like the Big Bank Theory is actually good. The
joke writing is strong on that show. I don't know
anybody who rides for Jay Leno or Jimmy Fallon like that.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
You know, I have to take you weird on it.
For like Bang Theory, I haven't heard anyone defeed that,
but I feel idea live your life. If you watch them,
you know what they say. Man, the numbers don't lie. Fam,
the numbers don't lie.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Okay, as the Big Bang Theory talking.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
About the numbers, then yeah, the Big Bang Theory also
stole everything from black artists.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah what Bazina was first said on.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Listen to this. Listen to this Delta Blues recording from
nineteen thirty eight. Instead of I'm afraid of you motherfucker,
they're like, that's what Bernie max Cat's phrase from The
Afraid of You Motherfuckers said? What is something he thinks overrated?

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Tim Guy Montgomery and I do a podcast called Just
Like That, which you kindly mentioned at the start. It
is famous for us watching sort of bad movies too
many times. We've reviewed Grown Ups two fifty two times,
and both The Sex and the City movies fifty two times.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
A piece work stadium of old time is what it's called, right.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yes, fittingly, and most recently we have been watching and
Just Like That season three in Real Time. I've put
that as overrated, almost just as a little opportunity to
give it a shout out first. That has There's two
things going on in my life. Right now, my two
beautiful boys and Sarah Jesca Parker and her friends and

(22:39):
what they're getting up to in their middle age on
and just like that, it's just been announced that the.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Whole concept of the Sex in the City universe is
ending with this thing. This is a this is how
they're going out, that's all right, And they didn't know
that at the start of this.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
So this is the third season of and just like that,
which is sort of set I don't know, roughly like
fifteen years after the last time we saw the Goals.
Samantha Jones is kind of famously not in this show,
and they It has just been amazing watching them groping
around in the dark over three seasons trying to figure

(23:17):
out how to get back into the zeitgeist effectively. Carrie
Bradshaw had a podcast with Bobby Lee at one point.
Shaye Diars is this non binary character who got with
Miranda and they had this very sort of complicated relationship
as Miranda's trying to figure out who she is.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
And everyone hated is too. I've heard that character just
like it was.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Like, god, well that's the thing, and it made it
very tricky, right because they were the most diverse character
on the show and also the most easily hatable. They
were also a stand up comedian, and you did get
privy to some of Shay's stand up and they were
not good.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yea bold decision to put it on spring.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh yeah, well, and then I just saw in this
season too, like to your point about they don't know
what the fuck's going on? How uh Nicolelari Parker's like
father died like in the first season, yeah, and then
also died in the third season, like hold on, that
was in season What the fun Is Show?

Speaker 5 (24:21):
And the previous season she's bonding I think with Maranda
at one point and it's like, oh, you know, yeah,
it was so hard when when my dad died a
couple of years ago. And then this season there is
an entire episode dedicated to the fact that her dad
just dies and then we go to the funeral and everything.
And then when everyone rightly called this out on like

(24:41):
they were like, what the fuck is going on here?
They not even in the show, but just I think
Michael Patrick King came out and Retconda as being like,
oh no, one of them.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Was a steep dad. We just forgot something like that.
But also it's this isn't just that, Like Carry Bradshaw
has been claiming that she's been with Aiden for twenty
two years, which is just not true.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Like at the beginning of Vegas, and then some.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Allegations came out against Chris Noth, who's the actor that
portrays them, so they killed him by Palaton, which in
real life like temped Paloton's sheer price briefly when that episode.
And then Big has been erased from history, and now
they're trying to pretend like Aiden's been on the scene
for two decades.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Come on, guys, we've been watching.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Wasn't he fool us?

Speaker 7 (25:32):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Wasn't he trying to get with them? And he was like,
now I gotta get I got to be with my family,
like with my kids or something. I felt like that
was happening in the first whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
But he's regular in the city, Big, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
And I had to tell you that, I'm glad you're
on board because you're talking to the right guy. So
thick in the weeds with this ship. The reason it's
it's kind of interesting at the moment is they have
one episode left of all of the whole Sex and
the City thing now because HBO who I don't even
know who. Eventually it's probably Mickey Mouse agguess owns everything.

(26:09):
So whoever at the top has decided, we've got to
pull the plug.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
On this thing.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
This is not going well. It's costing us too much money.
So mid season they've announced that this is it for
everything forever. And now we've got one last season of
one last episode to wrap up approximately one thousand storylines
that they've opened up across this season of the show.
It's been like a really adhd approach to television making,

(26:35):
just opened things up and never returned to them, and
there's a thousand characters living a thousand life.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Is there anything they could do in the final episode,
like could it all have been happening inside Carrie's mind
and she's like kind of lost it or something like that,
or you know, so like that was all intentional.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Then fixing the gas leak would be the most hilarious
pop out solution to all of this. Everyone has been
a figment of her imagination. They've also done this thing
which they did in the movie. So Guy and I
obviously watched Sex and the City two fifty two times,
and there is.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Who is it? Hold on let me bring this up.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Have I got the right movie, because now because I've
watched both movies that combined one hundred times, they also
go together in my head. So I've really got to
get this right. Jennifer Hudson is in the first movie
as a friend of Carrie Bradshaw, but she doesn't interact
with any other characters in the film. So Guy and
I developed a law that she is an imaginary friend

(27:43):
and not for nothing, she's basically the only black person
in the movie. In this television series, I think they've
taken a lot of criticism about it being such a
white show, so they've added a lot of these characters,
but in some form of Sex and the City entropy,
the central black characters are now fully just like away

(28:05):
from the other characters, living totally separate TV shows. Sos
Wexley and her family, they don't really interact with the
rest of the women anymore. It's kind of a weird
And and then Seema as well as this character they've
brought into introduced to sort of take the place of
Samantha Jones, and originally she was sort of with the goals,
but now as well, she's for the last bit of

(28:27):
the season just drifted off into her own show. So
we're back to the core white woman sticking together, and like,
it's a challenge writing for a thousand characters that you've
introduced on a TV show, but they've sort of drifted
into bad old racist secrets. Jesus, the show we couldn't rate.
A divers of our fucking lives depended on it.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And they tried, they really tried.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
There is there a room for a fan theory where
because they didn't did they.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Not go acknowledge just like sorry, sorry, finished?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Did they acknowledge nine to eleven? I think there was
like a subtle thematic tip of the captain nine to eleven,
But I don't think nine to eleven actually happened within
the Sex and the City universe. Could this be an
alternate timeline where nine to eleven doesn't happen? And so
all this is just like the Clinton world, you know,

(29:24):
the Clinton version of America moving forward, just unencumbered.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
To tease this out.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
So there's no nine to eleven, there's no Iraq invasion,
there's no rally around the flagpole effect, which I think
means John Carey, right.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Carey, Yeah, he would have been running against Bush. So
now we might not have been running against Bush because
he the reason they went with him was because he
was like a wartime yeuy, so would it. I don't know.
It's hard to tease out exactly, but maybe that's instead
of like thinking of plot continuity, they they were just

(30:06):
trying to figure out the politics.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Reverse engineer how the political timeline went. With the most
significant ofving of our lifetime, we got to get their red.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
String out real quick.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Says that they panned to the Twin Towers at the
end of the season that was recorded prior to nine
to eleven as like the tip of the cap. So
that cook, but that just implies that they still exist
because that aired after right, So they were like, and
we get it, guys, and just so you know, they
never got knocked down the entire way of dealing.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I've never seen the TV show, so I can't I
can't speak to that.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I had to watch the TV show for a previous job,
like all all episodes.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Of what do you think and what was the job
that you hit?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Because we're going to ABC News and Diane Sawyer was
interviewing I think the cast around the final episode Jack.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
To watch every single episode of Sex and the City.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah. Correct, I had to like log it and and
just go through and be like that this happens here.
This just like write a little episode summary of each
one for some reason.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Dude, I think.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, one of my notes was nine to eleven question mark, like,
don't be a coward, Diane fucking ask. Yeah, that is
weird that they made me do that job that I
could have just done that on like, uh, maybe Wikipedia
wasn't up and running back then.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
It was a long time ago. Yeah, anyways, or maybe
I just didn't know how to use the internet. What
did you think in the City episodes that happened?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
People who loved that shot?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, it definitely had a charm to it. It was
like fun and like once you like are watching it,
you get into the vibe of it. But I you know,
it wasn't necessarily my thing. But like the jokes were
like the jokes seemed like intentionally like kind of can't
be rather than funny, you know what I mean, Like

(32:00):
they were like kind of jokes about telling jokes a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a very like
Quippi Weird play.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
And yeah, yeah, everything is being done with a wink.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
But when it you know, when this show loved the characters.
When the show came out, I remember my mom got
sent like VHS screeners of Sex in the City and
like this is you know this fucking My mom would
bring these VHS tapes to Japan to show her friends.
They're like, there's this new show Sex in the City.
And I have so many memories of watching the first
season with my mom and aunts on VHS in Japan

(32:32):
in the hot summer and just being like, all right,
so we're watching this together and it's more interesting.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
This is why, like the movies being as bad as
they were and just like that being a hot mess
is so interesting because the original show was genuinely like
very culturally relevant.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Oh yeah, beloved. Yeah, my mom was.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Bringing these she was bringing these tapes around like it
was like hip hop for the first y'all heard this.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Ship and they were like, what like mixed yeah, blood
jobs on the TV.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, yeah, exactly a moment New York City.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
All right, we have to we have to move on
to all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be
right back to talk about a very Sex in the
City subject, a subject that Carrie Bradshaw could be writing
about her very self.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Will be right, fuck a crypto kingpin.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
And we're back.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
We're back.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
And there's a survey out that is it's called from
from an outlet called date Psychology.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Very sound, scientifically sound.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think it's affiliated with Stanford University. I actually don't
know the origins.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Of this surveyeople, who buy you the Stanford Prison experiment
comes date.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Psychology equally scientifically founded, but I do think it raises
the numbers are fairly definitive, and so I want I
wanted to just use this as an opportunity to talk about,
you know, where people are at with regards to who
who is found attractive and not?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, it's it's going around because I don't know. First
of all, I can, I can The Daily Mail was
I think the one like that really got to it
first and was like whoa. So that's I'm like, okay,
what the where the fuck are they going with this?
Because the Daily Mail, famously garbage website is the one
being like, can we at like this company asked straight

(34:37):
women what they believe the most and least attractive hobbies
a man can have? Uh, And I gotta say I
contain multitudes clearly by looking at the most and least
attractive things. It's it's this is me both, I got everything.
I'm doing it all. I'm doing the most attractive and

(34:57):
least attractive things simultaneous. I don't know. I played Magic
the Gathering. They got Magic the Gathering as an unattractive
fucking hobby.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Spoilerly, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Sorry, sorry, but I don't know for how specific the
hobbies are. I'm a little bit. It's a little interesting,
it's a little some time. I'm confused who exactly these
people are where they're like this.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I like this, Yeah, guys some context.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
I've tried to figure out, like who's behind this, And
there is this date psychology dot com, which is who
sort of released the survey. They do not have an
up to date security certificate on the website, so exactly
prime will be like sure you want to go because
I think you do.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, there it's like something but like their internal clock
does not match, which indicates an expired certificate.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
And like what the fuck is this not a great sign?

Speaker 5 (35:49):
And then one of the very few like bits of
information is a link to a Twitter account which is
date Psyche. No, I'm not going to call it the
X and the is a lockdown the posts to protect it.
But it appears to be a guy who's got a
master's and cognitive and behavioral neuroscience. So that's not nothing.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's not nothing from date Psychology University dot com. That's
where it is it.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Okay, Yeah, that's right, that's right with an out of
debt security certificate on it.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
So go to that website at your peril.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, knowing that it does really it does feel like
a bit of a psyop post in that sense of
like saying like, this is what women want, but this
is what men are.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Like, what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
What's going on between these fucking two things?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
What's not a syop at this point? Yeah, at least
go through it. I want to hear the results go through.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, So the most attractive are things like reading foreign languages,
playing instrument damn myles, cooking, working, These are like ninety
eight ninety five, ninety five, ninety five, ninety.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Four percent of respondents were like, I love a carpenter,
ass motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Let me tell you I think that right. You're gardening, swimming, swimming,
swimming hot, swimming is hot. There's a lot of hot
people who swim, blacksmithing, traveling, those are all over eighty
seven percent.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Do not don't gloss over blacksmithing.

Speaker 7 (37:27):
That is.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
At the top of the list. How's a blacksmithing?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Is this real?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
We're a smithing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Archery, I mean shit, I did archery as a teenager.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
The rest of them, they make sense to me. I
kind of get them.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Reading being at the top of the list fantastic. That
makes me optimistic about humanity. Foreign language is great. No
better way to understand that there are multiple perspectives in
the world than learning a different language. Playing an instrument awesome,
very good woodworking, I get it. You're a Christian nation,
down with the carpentry. Blacksmithing is the most out of

(38:04):
the box top ten I've seen on one of these lists.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Right, does feel like they were just going through like
the patches that you can earn to become an eagle scout. Yeah, yeah, true,
it's just attractive.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
The fuck Winter says, notts, what the fuck? But that's
our Like, Okay, I'm a little dubious when I see
eighty eight percent of respondings go blacksmithing.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
I believe this because what it would be right, let's
try and think about how they conducted this. I reckon,
there's a whole bunch of stuff on a list, so
there's like fifty things and then they just have to
order them, right, because it would be insane to think
that over eighty eight percent of responding coming up with
blacksmithing without prompting.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, your top five attractive hobbies foreign languages, archery, swimming,
and blacksmithing.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
That if I had to go off the top of
my head, I go swimming, blacksmithing. And this is me
an eighty six percent of other women. Yeah, I just
like a guy who's like been to summer camp, you know.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeah, blacksmithing is above travel right, having someone who's well
traveled as that's that's pretty universal forging.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, it's amazing a well traveled man. Alchemy Yeah, okay,
goddening's high up there too. It's like almost the top five.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Having a green thumb, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No. No,
fucking with plants.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I think that's that's that's attractors with plants.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Fuck with plants baby, yeah, oh yes, yes, right now,
while we're trying to bring back a fiddle leaf fig
you know what I mean, really trying to get we
got this terra cotta. I'm not bullshiting. If there's like
this terra cotta thing you can put in your plants
that help it like slow drip water out, it's actually
it's a It kind of makes you look like, you

(40:11):
know what the fuck you're doing?

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Because they're like just a little bit poorous, right, yeah, exactly,
just seep out a little bit. I had a friends
who tried to sort of patent and create this uh
slow release plant watering thing, and then he saw that
he was terracotta thing, which I think has existed probably
for like four thousand years. Theready solved the problem.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Got it rudger that imagine if you ate food with
two sticks between your fingers rather than a four.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
They were able to they were able to sell a
juice machine that just squeezed juice.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Out of that.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I feel like anybody, anybody can recreate anything. The red
spin on it.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
All right, let's get down to the least attractive hobbies.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Okay, and this is merely because this had a low
share of people that responded saying it was attractive.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
So those top ones were between ninety eight percent and
eighty seven point nine percent Okay, traveling at the bottom,
reading at the top, everything else that we've talked about
so far in between least attractive, we're down in the
thirty three percent, down to three percent at the bottom

(41:24):
of the activity list. Some of these are like old
fashioned shit that like a gym teacher would be like, yeah,
well you want to go out and do that, Everyone's
going to think you're a nerd. And then some of
them are like have a very decided political bent, So
all right at thirty three percent, comic books, fucking comic books,

(41:45):
nerds cose play up next, debating, which.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I take general forensics is that we're talking.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah. I take that as like Ben Shapiro, like debate
you coward type ship.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Right, surprisingly hything considering Yeah, yeah, Like it's still it's at.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Thirty perc third of respondents are like I think.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Hot, yeah, okay, that's how many of these were they
able to pick because all of these percentages are so high,
like check a box if it's like if it makes
you remotely want to fuck someone, like just even if they.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
The ones at the bottom interestingly live.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
So yeah, so uh, just running through Now we're down
to twenty nine percent drinking, magic, the gathering, anime, makeup,
geez guys, crypto, cigars, clubbing, marijuana, funko and then arguing

(42:49):
online porn, gambling, and Mano sphere.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
At three percine.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Manosphere is at three person and that's good.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I say.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Gratulations respondent identifying they want at the.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Bottom Funko pop.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
They got.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
They got kind of specific with like the geek stuff,
like geek culture stuff. They had like separate categories for magic,
the gathering, funko cosplay, Like I feel like they didn't
do that for sports is on this but like if
they were just going to do like a whole sports category,

(43:28):
you know, I mean, I.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Think they want to split that out sports doing in
sports watching, because sports you got to know right right
right where probably it is.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Those are two different things.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
My boyfriend's always arguing online about what the best weed
based Funko pop toy is. I can't stand it. I'm
also like if.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
People think identifies as their hobby is drinking and arguing.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
The Village Blacksmith, Hey, you know it's a complicated guy.
I think makeup should be hot. I'm disappointed making oh
for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I am a little disappointed by that too, Like if
somebody's got great makeup sense, yeah, dudes, dudes, maybe they
don't want to like be criticized for their makeup.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
But based it's such a crime, I don't mean it
is skincare. It's important, it's important.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I would if I could speak to some of these ladies,
I would offer to debate them on the marriage of
their makeup. Pick be happy any place. Anytime you name
the location. People love to tell you that you can
name the location. Yeah, I don't know. My main things me,

(44:45):
my main things probably probably drinking horn and man o sphere.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
It's a Haiti combine.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's a great.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I do.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I do think this is I don't know. Again, I
don't know about the scientific veracity of this. I do
think the general general unpopularity of the manuscript. Like I
was thinking about this in terms of the last week's
Sydney Sweeney thing, where just the idea that a celebrity

(45:19):
is a registered Republican like stopped Trump in his tracks
and like it was all he could talk about and
all like Fox News wanted to cover for a whole day.
I was thinking about it this morning. There was like
a story from the Guardian about companies who are aiding
Trump's immigration crackdown are seeing extraordinary revenues. Like just this,

(45:42):
this idea that everything in this American capitalistic system is
pointing in this one direction of like doing bad, like
being horrible, is like just there's nothing putting the brakes
on that anymore other than I think generally, and I

(46:02):
think this is why they keep hitting this over and
over again, is generally it being like extraordinarily uncool and unattractive,
Like at a deeply human level, people are like, uh,
like fuck off, and they have a sense of that,
and so they're they keep trying to push this idea
that it's hot to be like they've been doing this

(46:25):
from the start. There's like all these like right wing
dating sites. The Sydney Sweeney thing like blew up and
was like all Fox News could talk about forever. There
was like some videos over the weekend of like sororities
doing like synchronized dances, and they were like the left
hates this, and everyone's like, yeah, fucking the left hates this.
They're so mad they just want to like that. That's

(46:47):
the thing that is like stopping them a little bit
is like, man, people find the right wing manosphere, like
extremely horrifying at a deep human level that they like
can't get around, and so they that's like the last
straw in the propaganda war that they are going to

(47:09):
be fighting as hard as they fucking possibly can. I
think going forward is just like, how do we make
this cool? Because it's already cool with corporations. For a while,
it was cool for corporations to be like Nike and
be like, we actually think it's cool when people, you know,
take a knee in the face of injustice. But now

(47:29):
it's just like Pallenteer, Geo Group, Core Civic. These are
like companies that are just like helping Trump cage people
for speaking with an accent and having brown skin and
or having brown skin, and they're just there's no break
all gas, no breaks on that shit. And like the

(47:50):
last the last thing that I feel like, the last
place they're seeing resistance is just like interpersonally, people being like, oh,
this is fucking gross, Like what do.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
You mean Dean came the old Superman guy joined Ice.
Isn't this They're like, no, dude, isn't he Japanese? What
the fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. That's it. That's my loose
theory as to like where all of this energy is
coming from. And it's also why the Epstein thing is
like kind of undermines what they're trying to do, where
they're trying to be like, hey, we're just like red
blooded Americans who are all for and then it's like, oh,
our fucking godhead is a fucking pedophile who's like and

(48:31):
that's cool, and that's cool, and I think that's me,
just like Drake allegedly.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Like I like where you're coming from the Jack You
sort of described it as there's this tension of fascism
is trying to make itself fuckable, and he's gotten some
way there. But then when the rubber meets the road,
like when you get down to an individual level of
just normal people, non politicians, non arguing online man speak decades,

(49:00):
there's just something viscerally kind of disgusting about the whole
direction of it. Because the way you sort of described
all of that, it sounds to me like I do
kind of believe this at some point, hopefully in the
not too distant future. I think there's a possibility that
particularly the States, you guys just kind of like snap

(49:21):
out of it a little bit because I don't think
many people can sort of stomach what's going on at
the moment. And obviously there's a lot of resistance on
the ground with protests and people taking the action that
they can, but there's just like there is an element
of losing the guy who is the least political guy
in the world just being like, you guys are just

(49:43):
being fucking weird assholes, like just stop. And it feels
like it's kind of getting to that point right where
they're just going to lose everyone who has a shread
of humanity who's not like online.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Because you see all the buyer's remorse from the people
that were basically being proper gandis for Trump's election, who
are like, no, it's not what I'm voted for. I
mean I had him on the podcast because like, I'm
just this guy was saying different shit and what was out.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I didn't know what to say.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Andrew's name, he's not yeah yeah, yeah, yeah no.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
No.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I mean, like watching the Flagrant podcast constantly flail is
so hilarious, or even like Tim Dillon was doing it too,
when he's like I had dinner with jd Vance and
you're like you're a fucking loser, screwball. Now well you're
fully comfromed. You're just some fucking propagandist. Now you're not
even a comedian. You have just been used for your audience.
And there was did you see when I think it

(50:35):
was Ezra Klein who went on their show on Flagrant
and he was like or no, no, no, it was anyway,
it doesn't matter. The point being like, do we even
have like doctor Phil who was like doing ride alongs
with ice now being like, you know, I don't know
if I'm actually cut out to be doing political commentary.
It's like you're now trying to just ful like what

(50:56):
are you fucking talking about? And I think because on
some level at the time, they're like, oh yeah, I
think I'm riding this wave and like it's making me
money and this could be a thing. But then, like
to your point, the rubber hits the road and you
start having real people being like, hey, you're a piece
of shit for backing What the fuck is wrong with you?
They're like, oh, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm people.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
People want shit to be normal again. I think there
is like there's just an underlying sense of human decency
that people have, Like I really believe that people don't
want to fuck people over generally, the people who do
a weird online people whose brains have rotted away and
are totally incentivized to just create stuff that's going to

(51:36):
outrage everyone and make everyone furious. But those does it
not like it's like point zero zero one percent of humans.
The real people are the people who you see walking
around and they're pretty nice. They'll help you if you
if you need a hand. And I think people are
just getting like or most of the time, get into
an untenable place.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
They're not so fucked, they're they have the confidence to
say wacky racist shit behind a screen and have the
anonymity of like an online account or whatever. But acting
out that way in physical in the physical world leads
to like these like wimpy little hunched over masked Nazis
getting chased out of New Hampshire and they're like, what
the fuck and we're marrying IM. I wanted to do

(52:17):
the physical the IRL version of what I do online,
which is be anonymous with my hate, like my hateful rhetoric.
But I mean, I think the same time, there is
like this decency that still exists in people that you
see sadly every time we have some kind of natural
disaster where people are like inclined to actually just help
each other around.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And be like, who'ld you view a fucking Democrat?

Speaker 1 (52:36):
That's again, And I think because we're so many people
see the the talk online and think that's what's sort
of happening everywhere, it sort of paints the world a
much different in a different color than it is. Not
to say that hate doesn't exist, but like when you
go out in the streets, there's there's still a version
of what normal people interacting.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
You know, so many reasons we all need to get
a lot more offline.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will say I the one thing
standing in the way of this argument of like things
changing and moving in a better direction is this was
also my argument in the last election of why people
of why Trump was gonna lose. It's like that the
Republicans were losing in like local elections, and it was

(53:23):
like people's response and like explanations for like why they
weren't voting for Republicans. It's like they had become the
party that is like weird and like that just like
kind of unnerving, and it was.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
The Tim Waltz line, right right.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Unfortunately that sort of put a muzzle on him, but
he actually got a lot of attraction just going these
guys is just weird, and it was like, you know what,
that got kind of fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Except for lis Janey, Except for list Janey. She's cool.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah. I think I think the problem is that they're
running against the Democrats and like so the thing as
people snapped to, like the thing that they have to
go back to is this weird.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Listen, man, we got to bring back optimism. I saw
did you guys see that clip? Seeth McFarlane talking about
the modern state of like Hollywood output that's been doing
the rounds last day or so. He's talking about the
fact that Hollywood has been sort of asleep at the
wheel in terms of creating stories and telling a possibility

(54:24):
of a hopeful future for a long time now. He
sort of says, ever since the Sopranos came out, everything
has just been these pretty stories of anti heroes. And
when he was a kid growing up, you know, there
was a lot of television and film that we're showing
hopeful situations, characters who were like really heroic and people
who you would want to be who you would want

(54:45):
to aspire to be. And now everyone's kind of been
a villain on TV in movies for so long that
Hollywood has sort of been grant. All of the actors
and stuff have been grandstanding and doing these big speeches
and getting part of the political movements. But what they
are really as storytellers and the stories they've been telling
are very pessimistic about the future, and they kind of

(55:06):
need to get and listen. I'm not see if mcfallan's
biggest fan in the world, but I thought it was
a really good point because like there is a real
lack of hopeful imagination at the moment, and that is
kind of how they'll get you.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
If you don't have a positive vision of what the
future can be, that.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Will have nothing to fight for you are. Yeah, so yeah,
I think there is.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
An element of like we got to kind of keep
our chin up a little bit while we're fighting the
good fight.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
The quote he said, it can't all just be Here's
what's going to happen if you fuck up? He is
kind of how a lot of it's like, but you know,
our black so many shows like oh fuck y'all, don't
do this and don't benary tales. But half the time,
I think that's why I also find myself like just
wishing for more comedies, because at least in those aspects,

(55:56):
like I have a positive experience rather than like, and
there are great shows like damn, that's fucking heavy, Like
that's really interesting to consider. That's a really dark possibility. Wow,
I never thought about that. But I also kind of
need just like fun shit to laugh at too, to
remind me of, like, you know, the fun that exists
in just being.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Ministry for the future. They need to make that into
a TV series or a movie.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
That's Oh man, that great book was good. Yeah, and
it's so realistic.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
I was a realistic view of like what it could
look like to actually address this ship.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
For those who haven't read it, they've got this.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
There's all these kind of eco terrorist groups that start
weaponizing drugs and listen, this is in the book.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I'm not saying you do this and do this. This
is in the book.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
But they start weaponizing drones because drones are obviously so
cheap and ubiquitous now that they just start like fanging
them into private jets that are being flown around by
these CEOs that have been poisoning the earth for so long.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
And it's like, man, I could see that happening in
about three or four years from.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, yeah that but that is the sort of thing
like give us a realistic vision of like how this
might change, what could happen, Like give people good ideas,
you know, like.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
To root for.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
You know, I haven't seen a single goddamn hero and
just like that, just different shades of villains.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Bring back Samantha Jones.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
Weeks.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
She needs to be let her scat a little bit.
She needs her Gandalf moment in the last episode, just
like I come to you now, like, yes, Samantha, please
save us.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I mean, that has to be the thing everybody's waiting
for in the last episode was for Samantha to come back, right.
I'm sure they've come out and said like she's not
coming back. She's not, but I'm.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Sure ye have been pretty public about that, and and
we've been sort of lording here on the show for
making the correct decision with her career, because she would
have been offered out standing amounts of money, Like it
has been public that everyone wanted you to come and
join this bit at the party, but here and Syra
just could park ahead a bit of a falling out

(58:06):
years ago, and uh, our speak to as an artist
was saying, no, no, I'm gonna keep skating away over
here by myself.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Such a heat dogs and she did the sheet dogs.
The town never knew such a hull balloon.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
How do you know that?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
By memory?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Ja, We talked.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
It, I think in the early days of the show,
and we for people who don't know, this is like
from and I think it's like an ABC News thing
where they just sit down Kim Catroll at home. Her
husband's playing upright bass, and she's scattered.

Speaker 8 (58:37):
I read poetry and sonnets and he plays the upright
bass window Latin, he quoth, UJ suffs around.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Uh huh, come on now, come.

Speaker 8 (58:54):
On, well he bet all the heat dogs and winked
at all the sheet dogs, and the town never knew
such a alla ballue?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Is that little dog raised?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh my god, yips master flexen here now.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
A bit at the end of that clip that you
just cut off, which we use in our theme song
for a whole year on the podcast. But we were
watching in just like.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Got to continue over here.

Speaker 8 (59:22):
We just have a good rhythm together, you know, he
sort of feels me out, I feel him out and
we go for it.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Uh ship, Oh my god, Catherine say that hell of
ye and the chant producing Catherine, do you want to
read that out?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
They were promoting their book Satisfaction The Art of the
Female Orgasm. Yes, play your upright bass.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Second King Kim con Traut's husband is an upright based jay.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah. And foreign language, because that was whatever they were
scatting was not in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
They had their own foreign language. Together. Let's take a
quick break.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
And we're back and we've gone along. So just to
in this final act, we do just want to take
a moment to sit back and kind of wish cast
how does the Sex and the City shared cinematic universe?
And in this next episode event just like that. You know,

(01:00:38):
a lot of a lot of storylines coming together in
the in this last episode, Tim, I feel like you
you're more steeped in what's been going on lately than
the rest of us. I'm curious to hear, like, well,
what are you hoping happens here?

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
My ultimate heart? I know that I've just been singing.
Kim could trails praises for exiting the show, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
I think it would be.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
So what we know is about to happen is there's
going to be a Thanksgiving dinner. Brady has gotten a
woman pregnant who he barely knows and had essentially a
one night stand with Miranda. Brady's mum has invited Miya,
who's pregnant, to Thanksgiving. Brady's furious about this. Oh, Charlotte
is trying to figure out how to stay home from

(01:01:25):
the Thanksgiving dinner. Miranda is hosting it, by the way,
this is the first time she's ever hosted. Harry has
just had surgery for his testicular cancer. I think, yeah,
testicular and he just wants to He desperately just wants
to be at home for Thanksgiving. So Charlotte, Harry might
be there. I'm giving you guys to kind of cliff
n yeah, memory of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Seema, who is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Essentially replacement Samantha, has hooked up with Carrie Bradshaw's gardener
called Adam, so they're sort of happily coupled off together.
Miranda all So has a girlfriend called Joy who's now
in the mix and having to sort of deal with
the Brady situation happening around her. Carrie Bradshaw has recently

(01:02:10):
broken up with Aiden, who she was trying to make
it work with for quite a long time. They were
in a distance, long distance situation, and then they broke up,
and then Carrie hooked up with Duncan, who is the
author that lived downstairs from her in her big house,
but he has gone back to London, so I think
he's out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Of the picture now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Now this is about five percent what I've just described
of all of the storylines that are currently unresolved. What
I would like to see happen, and what I think
would be the neatest way to tie this all up
is to have Samantha Jones wake up from the coma
because they've fixed the gas leak in her apartment, and

(01:02:51):
the entire three seasons of En just like that, and
every character and arc has been inside of her imagination,
and I want to see her living a fantastic life.
I believe she is also in London, just heaven Manhattan's
with a hot twenty nine year old dude, summer in

(01:03:12):
London with the Big Bend clanging away in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I love that for her. Is she canonically in a
coma or we have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Nights to me, no, she's alive, because I think the
reference her sending flowers after Big died or something there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
And they every now and then they'll put a text
message from Samantha on screen to carry, which I think
is so rude that it should be contractually impossible because
Kim Contrall is so tied to that character of Samantha.
Jones is like, if Kim has told you she doesn't
want to be in the show, you can't. You can't
do it with.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Catherine and with the notes again, thank you so much.
There was a phone call last season.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
And Samantha okay, yeah, yeah, all right, Samanaantha wakes up.
I think is a good is a good place to start.
We get through the Thanksgiving bullshit. There's like stuff about
like the turkey being frozen, people unhappy, all all the
plot lines. Samantha wakes up. She is in a hospital.

(01:04:15):
She looks out the window and calls and Carrie and
everybody is on their way to meet her at the hospital.
She looks out the window. We pull back. It's the
top of the World Trade Center.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Ah fuck, you know yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
She she opens the newspaper before we pull back. In September, eleventh,
two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yeah, that's exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, Robert Pattinson is there for some reason. Yep, he's
just one window over for some reason. They have a
hospital in the World Trade Center. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I imagine this is all happening in Carrie's mind. Moments
we find out this has all been flashing behind Carrie's
eyes because she's actually been in prison and she's a
to get stomped out in the yard, and this is
just a just a quick flash just to really confuse
the audience, like, wait, what does she go to prison for?
Just to kind of keep people guessing. And I think

(01:05:10):
that's that's the most I can hope for, along with
the nine to eleven thing. But I think maybe Herbie
it's parcerated, yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Something
where Dovetails, which show came directly after if they can
tie together whatever they see the show that came right
after Sex and the City on HBO, to maybe make
it all part of a shared universe, I think that
would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
She gets ed, would boot comes down, blackout, and then
it's when you walk through the garden, it's the wire
bringing it back to the wire. For some reason. Tim,
it's been a pleasure of having you learning what's going
on in the second the City universe and learning what's
going on in your universe there in the future, and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
A pleasure to be had. Thanks so much, guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
They can find me online, Tim Bank at Instagram. I
guess I've got to get I guess I have to
get back on Instagram because I'm getting back into stand
up now, so that's what I got to do. I've
been a little offline recently, thankfully, so now I've got
to get my ass back online to sell some tickets

(01:06:18):
for shows coming up. Ah, it's a very It's not
a great sales pitch for my account, is it? Go
follow me on Instagram and maybe I'll fucking drag my.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Content at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Unwanted promo?

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
And Tim, is there a worker media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah, I just came across. It's only just come out.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
David Byrne did a What's in My Bag at Amba Records,
and I just think that is It's National Record Day,
so this all fits on theme. He's awesome talking here
is amazing. David Byrne is probably the best live content
I've ever been to in my life a few years ago,
and I just think a celebration of art around the world,

(01:07:00):
you know, I said, he's he's a great appreciator of
African music for example. That is what the world needs
right now, just like, get into some shit, really appreciate
some great music, get passionate about some stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Hell yeah, Miles, where can people find you as their
workimedia you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles
of Gray. I'm talking ninety day fiance on four to
twenty day fiance. Uh, work with me. I haven't been on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I haven't really been online. That's been on. If I'm
being honest, I being online? Uh so what did I
What have I done recently?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Just go be whimsical, you know what I mean? Waiting
to ice cream sandwich? Please look happy?

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Because they're trying to fucking take our happiness. And yeah,
this is there's like everything on my every time I
go online, there's just so much fucking awful shit like
I can feast my eyes upon. And I'm really trying
to take stock of what that balance is of what
my inputs are like in terms of like visual stimuli,
whatever that is. And man, the fucking balance is so

(01:08:03):
fucking to one side of just NonStop horse bullsh horseship,
I don't know, horsball, I don't know what I'm trying
to say, horse hors It's a fucking mess. It's a
content mess. But I think in that sense, I'm just
trying to be more mindful. So I just need a
good I just saw a new trailer for like a

(01:08:25):
office spin off that NBC is doing called The Paper Yeah,
with Dominal Gleason, and I was like, oh, all right, yeah,
all right, doing an American accent. Look first, and don't
get me started. They're taking our jobs, folks, They're taking
our job They're taking our fucking jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
But this right right, I'm not proud of this part
of the show. A likely standing aside.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Now is all right, you're not taking too many of
our jobs. It's the Ausies and the fucking English and
they're taking our jobs. Man, are acting jobs?

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
All right? I've just been in in a bunch of
onion headlines. Is one of those things where like people
were like, which onion headlines still occupies spacing your mind
and just a I've gotten some good broad smiles from
that going viral, total dipshit. Fan fans think pop up
fly ball going to be home run. God answers prayers

(01:09:25):
of paralyzed little boy. It's a picture of a boy
and wheelchair that says no, says God. Ship just so much,
so much good ship. Shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
You get you go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Whoa, I feel so humiliated?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Shallow fly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Infield, pop up box with cooking instructions immediately retrieved from
trash with a picture of someone taking the craft Mac
and cheese box out in the trash. Just done that
about a thousand times. Anyways. You can find me on
Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian blue Sky at Jack ob
the Number One. You can find us on Twitter and

(01:10:14):
blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist where at the Daily Zeitgeist
on Instagram. And you can go to this episode wherever
you're listening to it, and underneath the show description you
will find the footnotes, which is where we link off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you

(01:10:35):
think people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, this is a track from gold Panda, great producer artist.
This is a track that came out last month. It's
called Plain Sailing. It's just got like a fun look.
It's just got good energy. Trying to keep my energetic balance.
This isn't like sometimes I'll go on some like darker,
kind of grimier sounding tracks. This one feels a little
more loose. This one feels nice. Okay. So this is

(01:10:58):
Plain Sailing s a I L I ng by.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Gold Panda and we will link off to that in
the footnotes. The Daily Eye Guys at production by Heart Radio.
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That's going to do it for us this morning, back
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will talk.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
To you all then Bye bye.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
The Daily Zeyite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long,
co produced by Bee Wang.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by J.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
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