Tesla: The Libs Strike Back, New Capitalist Fear Just Dropped 04.25.24

In episode 1665, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of The Worst Idea Of All Time, Tim Batt, to discuss…  Tesla Is NOT Doing Well??? But Elon … I Thought He…F**king Sucks? Employers You Have A Problem: Gen Z Worker ‘Quiet Quitting’ Has Evolved Into ‘Resenteeism’ AKA NEW CAPITALIST FEAR JUST DROPPED and more!

1. Musk Says You 'Should Not Be An Investor In The Company' If You Don't Believe Tesla Will 'Solve Autonomy'
2. Tesla sees biggest revenue drop since 2012 but company shares still surge
3. Tesla driver arrested for homicide after running over motorcyclist on Autopilot
4. Employers You Have A Problem: Gen Z Worker ‘Quiet Quitting’ Has Evolved Into ‘Resenteeism’ AKA NEW CAPITALIST FEAR JUST DROPPED

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty five,
episode four of Daily's I Gottesday production of iHeart Radio.
I think I peeked out a little bit on that Hello.
I'm just excited to be here. I'm excited to say
hello to the Internet. What is this, Miles. This is
a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
share consciousnation. At least that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Chris Crafton's share consciousness either one of craft to share consciousness,
to share conscience.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It can be anything. It can be anything. But yeah, today,
probably today America share consciousness, maybe a little bit of
New Zealand's share consciousness. It is Thursday, April twenty fifth,
twenty twenty four. Related Happy Passover to those I think
we forgot to Monday. Wish people that happy Passover. Happy Passover, y'all.

(00:47):
I was gonna have to the Earth Day also that
was also, yeah Monday. Yeah, we don't do the Yeah
that's two years. We don't call out what the days
are on the trending episode.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I actually while I got invited to us later and
then disinvited because they remembered I had a baby, and
they're like, yeah, might just kind of like be too
hectic because these people also had a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And I was like, oh shit, yeah, yeah, it's all good.
But they're like, yeah, your kids is kind of like
running around a ship. I'm like, oh, we can leave
them in the car. I just want to the HEROSI
the full disinvite. I mean, your baby very close friends
of ours who just had a baby. So we're like
we get yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah, you're close enough

(01:24):
that they can be like actually, no, Also, yesterday is
our median geniside. Remember it to day we go. That's
a big thing's right in southern California. My children were
off of school for that. Oh for a horse, I
believe it. Yeah, they say it in our meeting. But yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Also but April twenty fifth, National Hug of Plumber Day,
also National DNA Day, also National Teach Children to Save Day.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh okay, okay, I was not taught that. I was
told to. Just if you got it, spend it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
National Zucchini Bread Day, National Take our Daughters and Sons
to Work Day. That's the picture is two kids dressed
in like work attire, and it just seems so dystopian.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is this the official one? The official take our kids
to it, because I feel like that either have daughters
or sons. If they do not fall into those two categories,
neatly do not have them, we are not interested. But yeah,
this is this is, this is how this works. I
don't know, I think I think it is. It's also
in Canada, so this might be the official one. Did

(02:24):
you ever do?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I never had parents who had a job that could
take me somewhere. Like my dad was like making art
or some shit or going to like do photos, and
my mom was like, I work from my house, So.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I went to I went to my dad's job
all the time. It must be nice because yeah, like
after school, I think it was more for childcare, like
but like, oh yeah, practice happening. I remember going to
grad school with my running around empty stadiums, right, yeah,
that's so funny. You ran around empty stadiums. I ran
around the basement of cal.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Arts Art School where people were like screaming about communism
to a a three and four year old.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
There's something very comforting to me at this stage of
my life about being on a college campus, just because
I spent a lot of my early years just like
bumming around an lighty college campus.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
The smell of like a rec center, you know, like
the gym at school. You just kind of like, yeah, yeah,
I get it. A lot of empty space and dust,
like empty space and dust the Jack Brian empty space
and dust.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's all. We are. Also on National Hug a Plumber Day.
Don't hug a plumber from behind. That's that's what they want,
and we will see what they do with their pants
that I'm goin to grab you by the waste and
they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa way anyways, No, probably
I don't. My name is Jack O'Brien aka three points wasted.

(03:51):
Oh yeah, three points wasted, three points wasted. Oh yeah,
this kickers, Eh, they're all wasted. That is courtesy of
steaming choke on the discord. In reference to the theory
we formulated the other day that football kicker is the

(04:13):
high job of professional sports. Like, I had a lot
of friends who chose their jobs and their twenties based
only on whether they could do that job while high.
Has those friends been professional athletes? I feel like that's
the one. Yeah, it's the just be not.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good enough to make it to MLS soccer in the
US you might have an NFL career as a kid.
That's kind of just like, ah kick.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Every you know, twenty minutes or so. Ye. Anyways, I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles Great.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's Miles Great. Akaa a bunch. Sorry, this got me
a bench near a sign with schedule times is also
known as a bus stop. Okay, shout out to marquee
Markerrillis for that one when I I said, some people
I knew thought busta was bust stop, but I like.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
A bench nearest sign was scheduled. Also, you nailed the
syllable counts. Also really well stop, So shout out to you,
Marky Marcarellis. Yeah, really well done on that one, Miles.
Speaking of well done, we are thrilled to be joined
in our third seat by one of our most eagerly
anticipated second guests, Well done on.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Just a fucking podcast. Professional sat here quietly the whole time,
just waiting to be introd. Co host the podcast The
Worst Idea of All Time with Guy Montgomery, which is
celebrating ten years since they started February twenty fourteen, and
they have clocked over twenty million downloads. They're gonna recognize

(05:47):
their ten years of Utter podcast domination with a victory
lap of replaying season one with them re listening to
every episode of season one and doing a short reflective
preamble before each one releasing it on the stream. He's
a very funny stand up comedian, TV writer, producer, chat
show host. Welcome to the show, the hilarious, the talented Timba.

(06:12):
I can talk now.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I have to wait till you say my name and
then I'll pop.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Out and they fly out, tim bat a baby beetle gase.
How you been man, it's been good to me.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I've got to say something.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Top.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
You've gone through all the national days that it is today.
I really thought you were leading up to this. So
it's Anzac Day here in New zeal It's actually like
a public holiday. And it is crazy that I got
up to do a podcast because this is kind of
the closest thing that we have to Veterans Day. It
was like a wartime massacre on New Zealand soldiers on

(06:49):
this day in nineteen fifteen.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, with Jabson. Yeah, you got it.
That was like the first war movie my mom showed me.
She's like you're like this. It was like five. I
was like, what the Yeah, Gallipoli's fucking intense anyway, Sorry.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Go on, that's intense, I mean, but to be fair,
it was a pretty intense thing.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, use John Fiedeman's language. We got smoked.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah good, Oh well, happy end day. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
As in New Zealand, I'm supposed to be at like
a cinotaph somewhere right now doing the dawn service. But
I was like, I'm going to get up for the
dawn service of the Daily ze Geist.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's right? Would you actually go? Would you actually? I mean,
are you? Are you that patriotic that you're like I've.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Gone before, but only a couple of times, but not
every year. Not now I've got I'm like, I got
a young kid, like, yeah, you gotta prioritize your own
sanity a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. Oh well, enjoy a lamington on.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
This nice nice local reference.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
What is a lambing?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
The liquor took a sponge cake with chocolate and like coconut.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, you got it. And it comes in two flavors.
You've got chocolate or you got rispberry.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh yeah, wonderful. That's uh all the Australian touch points.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I know is from briefly dating in Australian for about
three weeks, and I was like, tell me everything so
I can attend.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know what it's.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, there's a couple. There's a couple of things like
Lambington's and I guess Russell Crowe that New Zealand does
an Australians fight over who owns that thing?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh really? Yeah? Yeah I didn't know. Oh I didn't
know that. Yeah, okay, okay you can. You should give
them his music career and you take his movie career.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Who gets like, has he been charged with anything? Fights
a bit?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, he like threw that phone at a hotel
employee one time. Oh yeah, let's see.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
He was two thousand and five charged with felony assault
and fourth degree criminal possession of a weapon after he
threw a telephone.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
The weapon in question. The weapon in question, the telephone. Yeah,
those people might not remember, but a lot of our
listeners might not remember a time when telephones were thinking.
But those things were like heavier than they seemingly needed
to be right, you know, Like there was some especially
like rotary ones. I feel like they just like made

(09:20):
with iron. Yeah, there was like fifteen pounds of lead
in there for some reason.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, it wasn't case you needed to hit your assistant
with something and you.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Have you yeah work. Yeah. The executives at GE were like,
and somebody's gonna need to hit their assistant with these
every once in a while, so we should give it
some heft. Yes, yes, good call Jack, amazing a g
wasn't the guy named Jack something Jack? Yes? I forget,

(09:50):
well it wasn't a reference to you. Yeah Walsh Welsh,
Jack Welch, bad, bad person. It turns out, who's like
the guy Baldwin was basing his donnicky off of. Yeah, yeah,
just a truly amazed. We should just do a dive
on him. But what did just like a just all

(10:12):
the all the capitalism stuff, like treated employees badly, rewrote history,
so he was like a maverick.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, there's like weird things with like drunk driving and
just I don't know, I just remember, yeah, welleran hero
slash shouldn't this is what's wrong with us type of guy.
I remember there being a Jack Welsh book like on

(10:42):
my dad's bookshelf that like Jack's Way or like some
ship like that you know, he was real into leadership literature,
and then like recently heard some some podcasts that told
the true history of him, and it wasn't or maybe
it was like it was like somebody who I wouldn't

(11:02):
expect to be anti Jack Welsh. I think it was
actually a Malcolm Gladwell article and it was like, this
guy's a fucking dick, was really really not cool. For
as much as people lionize him.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
We see part of that wave of like American captives
of industry at a particular time who just went, we
are going to fire everyone we can.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yes, this is a brilliant insight and treat everyone.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Like shit, Yeah, get a say sweet, that's really well
looked after, and just try and basically dedicate everything to
jumping the stock price up day.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
After day, Yeah, creating shareholder value. That is the heroic
way of describing exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Quick greatest hits. He fought a twenty year battle with
the Environmental Protection Agency in the state of New York
over polychlorinated biphenals forever forever chemicals and said that there's
no cause for concern over health consequences.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
He called the Obama administration's prioritization of addressing climate change
radical behavior. He was also like against anything that was
like curbing CEO pay. He's like, it's outrageous if you
think like workers aren't making enough, Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Typical nuts.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Those those chemicals, I'm pretty sure those were the stuff
that was in here spray right, yeah, which is like
the one time that planet Earth has actually come together
and listened to the scientists and went, oh shit, we
got to do something about this, and we did it
and it fixed the problem, which was the literally the
only time we've pulled it off.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And Jack was like, no way, brother, No, you guys
are freaking out, Yeah, freaking out. Yeah, I think we
need like a hole. There's like having that physical hole
in the ozone layer I think was really helpful for
us to be like, well, that can't be good, right, Yeah.
So yeah, I guess looking at just gigantic swaths of
land burning up in flames, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, it's

(12:58):
probably the it's probably the homeless people did that. When
you're like, oh, it's probably actually just the hypercapitalisms run
away from us and we can't pump the brakes like
we used to in the eighties. That notoriously socialist time
of the eighties. I remember I was fucking scared of
like breaking styrofoam cups in that time, Like for I

(13:21):
feel like there was like some this might have been
true or a livestale, an old wives tale. It's sort
of like like when you break certain kinds of styrofoam,
it's like releasing shit into the air. And I was like,
don't break the stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Like I remember being so stressed out as a kid,
like eating like a cup of noodles and then like
like carefully put in the garbage cancel wouldn't get crushed.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm sure it's just some bullshit that I.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Which is so funny because we're pouring like boiling hot.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Water into the into it, like we're probably just drinking it. Yeah,
I'm trying to remember what it is. From this Gladeal article,
there's this part at the end where he like refuses
to put on his seat belt and then like on
the left side of the road and like all the
way through a golf club that he's a member of,

(14:06):
just to like prove that everybody will like get out
of his way and that he he just seems like,
oh here it is true.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
So they talk about he was having lunch with golfer
Phil Mickelson, and the CEO of Barkley's came over to
pay homage.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Then the time of c suite.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Then Welsh offered to drive Cohen back to his house
a few miles away. They get into his jeep Cherokee,
and Welsh refused to put his on his seatbelt, so
the warning belt chimed the whole route right back off
he drove. When he got to the left turnout of
the Nantucket Golf Club onto Milestone Road, he did something odd.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Instead of keeping to the right side of Milestone Road.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
As other American drivers do, he decided to drive in
the middle of the road with the Cherokee straddling the
yellow line.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Needless to say, the drivers coming toward us on Milestone
Road were freaking out. One after another. They all put
off to the right onto the grassy edge of the street,
giving Jack full clearance to continue driving down the middle
of the road. He didn't seem to notice.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
So that's nothing about people going, oh it's Jack, Well,
should we be going to get out of his way.
It's like some fucking lunatic is trying to kill himself
on this right down the middle of the lane.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh man, just yeah, And like that's the impression you
get just throughout is just he's just he refuses to
admit that he is not the most important person in
the world in any interaction and will like lie and
fire and dominate people. It's really.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Profile how easy it is when you've got that attitude
that you do rise to the top.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah exactly. It's like you have to have something truly
deeply wrong with you to be a billionaire. Yeah, yeah, level,
it's great. We're going to talk about that later on.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, it's living your life like you're driving down the
middle of the middle of the road. Everyone's just like,
oh god, I don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
People like that. Yeah, people were like, the are they
going to do? Yeah, it's that. I think we all
know somebody with that attitude, but some didn't have wealthy
enough parents that they just sort of skip steps into
like the elite. And then in the US we write
books about those people called like Jack's Way. Yeah, Jack
driving down the middle of the fucking street, just not

(16:13):
caring if anybody is made uncomfortable, if their safety is
put at risk. Well, Tim, we're gonna get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
gonna tell our listeners that a few of the things
we're talking about later. So Tesla is not doing great,
which sucks because like Elon is, you know, he's like Tony,

(16:35):
He's our Tony Star, He's like our Iron Man, and like,
it just hurts my feelings when he doesn't know he's
obviously like a piece of shit and whoa, his shittiness
is like coming back to bite him in very ways.
So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about

(16:55):
resentee is a new capitalism feared. Just drop like this
is an article written by bosses and C suite people
being like like they they had quiet quitting and now
this is the new panic of like how employees are
mistreating them at work resent teaism. Guys, that is, sorry

(17:21):
to say, a absolute whiff on the title of that
new fear. All of that plenty more. But first him,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history?

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Just the term Sam Neil, who I don't know if
you remember the actor fantastic actor he's still around that
I remember, like he died.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
He is not very much with us.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
He's at least, of.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Course, anyone who is in Jurassic Park will always be
invincible in my mind.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Wait, well why Sam Neil, I'm just going to tell you.
I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to talk about this.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh well, don't you don't jeopardize any thing. You and
Sam Nail are engaged to be married or Jack?

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yes, him, way to steal my thunder, dude and kneel
his thunder. Give a girl a chance. So I did
this podcast for our vision of MPR's Radio New Zealand,
and me and my mate Carlo Richie did a podcast
a couple of years ago called Did Titanic Sync, which
is exploring episode by episode this conspiracy theory that the

(18:28):
Titanic was switched with its sister ship, the Olympic, which
got damaged by a naval vessel, and so they gave
it a paint job, called it the Titanic, set it
out to sink it intentionally for insurance money, but then
it accidentally had an iceberg at that point and killed everyone.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
And so my friend.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Carlo, he was not even part of it.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Correct. Yeah, So they had this whole plan to basically
sink it slowly because it was the Titanic. I'm using
scare quotes. That so called Titanic was set out and
it was on fire when it left port, Like there
was a big raging fire in the in the coal bunker,
and so Carlo reckoned. What was supposed to happen is

(19:16):
they let it on fire, and it was supposed to
sink slowly, and there were a bunch of ships in
the surrounding area that would have been called in from
the distress signal and they would have had time to
get everyone safely off board, and then the ship itself
just would have sunk and they would have collected the
insurance money. But then they had an iceberg and the

(19:36):
planing off bunker, and it happened to quirk, and because
of the fire that had like jeopardized the structural integrity
of the ship, it sunk way quicker than like it
ever was supposed to win the worst case scenario. And
that's why everyone does so anyway we did. It's kind
of like it's a it's a pretty crazy conspiracy theory,

(19:57):
but Carlo is obsessed with the Titanic. Here's a symboled
like all of the historic evidence to support this theory
and step me through it episode episode So we just
got green let to do it. A second season of
this podcast. I don't think I'm supposed to like announce that,
but there's an exclusive for you guys.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh shit, right there, baby, Wow, you keep the conspiracies out, baby,
it's a new conspiracy theory.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, there's a bit where this. I won't spoil what
they kind of like premius of season two is, but
it's pretty juicy. And I was trying to get Sam
Neil to do some voicing on the podcast itself because
it involves the second season will involve this this book,
and we want someone really with a fantastic voice to
read some passages from the book. So I reached out

(20:43):
to his agent and unfortunately Sam Neil will not be
joining us. Close to zero money, damn, what's this problem?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, that's amazing, though I did not know about this
conspiracy there.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
It's wild. He owns a vineyard now, so he's he's happy.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, that that is the That is like the symbol.
That's what when people are like, yeah, I own a
vaneyard now, it's like, oh my bad, Oh forward myself out. Yeah,
you're doing a little vineyard of death. Is that what
you're doing? Yeah? Yeah, I'm going to expire amongst the
vines here. I'm gonna expire with an orange in my mouth.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
I will not have a bad word said against Sam
Neil though. He's just such a thoroughly fantastic He does
a lot of like instagramming and stuff, and it's just
it's him blessing out.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Really.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah, there's a certain lip of like, older wealthy person.
Who I do, who's the who's the British rich? Is
it Richard E. Grant? Have you seen his instagram?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
No? It is nuts.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
It's just him running around like a little girl being
excited about the fact that it's raining outside. Just a
bridle joy on his face about smelling a flower or
like a fish bangette.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Wow, we only aspire to have social media feeds like that,
don't we.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, Pritchard Grant that everybody, of course, remembers.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
From the Spice Skiers movie.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Hudson Hawk, the Spice Girls movie. Yeah, I guess Game
of Thrones, but more importantly, yes, Hudson Hawk and the
Spice Girls movie Spice World. Let's be you know, sorry,
let's respect the materials please, it's just been a while
since I've spiced.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Up my aliens pop out and they're all horny. I
wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh and he's the dad from Saltburn. He's he's got
a real nose for some interesting work.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Is distinguished. We call it having a distinguished look.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's right. All right, Let's take a quick break and
we'll come back and do some overrated underrated. We'll be
right back, and we're back and Tim, we do like

(23:02):
to ask our guest, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I'm going to say Space Ghost Coast to Coast. Oh yeah,
I don't know if you guys are familiar. It sounds like,
oh yeah, CE Network. Yeah yeah, it's celebrating its thirtiouth
birthday at the moment, and this is the show that
like launched our adult swim Like this is the thing.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
So I've loved the Space Ghost Like I stumbled on
it when I was probably about fourteen years old, coming
home from a party kind of drunk and just turned
on Cartoon Network at like one in the morning.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Damn you we told you were fourteen coming home from
a party drunk and deciding that sounds like some twenty
eight year old behavior.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
We build them different In New Zealand, we got it,
we started. He went, I'm not proud of that, but
I'm also not going to lie to you guys.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah, just got in the
coal mine. Yeah yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
So I'm I'm I'm punching through a pair of Lucky
Strike and I flick on the TV and there's this
crazy cartoon and it's like, if you haven't seen it before,
it's a chat show hosted by this nineteen sixties cartoon
hero which is really quite badly drawn. But they punch
in the guest and the guest is filmed on camera,

(24:19):
so the guest isn't animated, and they had like really
famous guests. So they're doing a big replay live stream
at the moment, which is probably still going on YouTube
to sort of celebrate the thirtieth year. Like Conan's on it,
Tom York's in an episode.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh wow, York, Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
This is like real heavy hitters, and the show is
it's just like built for stoners, Like the writing is crazy,
and it was the first kind of thing I saw
as a teenager where I was like, oh man, this
is this is my ship, Like I didn't know that
I was supposed to smoke weed until I saw Space Ghost,

(24:57):
you know what I mean. It sort of like went
that way around, like, oh, this comedy is so great
that I should start smoking marijuana, which I didn't until
much later. I will say, don't touch that stuff if
you're if you're under like twenty, I gotta say that, right,
thank you drink when you're fourteen, but not yes, of course.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
And then also I feel like I feel like the
first appearance of like Aquatine Hunger Force was also on
Space Ghost.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's right. There was a lot of ship. Yeah, a
lot of ship comes from the tree of Space Ghost.
Yeah for me. And then I like then I was
like I was all in on Aquatine too, and I
was like, this shit is fucking yeah. I just love
that Absurd Mastership.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Was a totally different character and that in that vision
in the Christmas episode is like some kind of whiny
white dude. And then and I'm glad that they kind
of like changed the dynamic. But yeah, what's the same.
Oh wait is that right? No? Sorry, fry Lock Flock's different.
Fry Lock's different.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And I had legs. I feel like visually, like it's
a supreme Court. I'm actually an original list, so I
think that no character should ever change. I actually prefer
the first episode of the Simpsons. I think the animation
was better back then. I prefer the Tracy Omens Simpsons.
They looked like their faces were melting. Yeah, and Homer

(26:17):
was like the home on, come on, boy, we're hungry, Like,
what the heck? I remember?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I remember it was so alarmed when I saw the
Tracy omen version of like those characters, and like, what
the fuck was going on?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Here is the Simpsons back. I've been hearing online that
like the Simpsons is back?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Is you guys watching again? Yeah? I haven't been watching.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
No, I I've I'm I'm I'm also an originalist. I'm
an original, a first eight seasonist. Yeah, but I know,
but I have heard that repeatedly. Actually, people like, no,
like it's it's funny.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's good. I mean probably in a way that's like
not disappointing.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
But I think I've moved on from like my deep
love of the Simpsons in that sense.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm like, I got to come back to the Springfield Baby.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah, maybe I did. I had a segment and it
did a comedy show in the New Zealand Comedy Festival
like four years ago, which actually was just me ripping
off Space Ghost. I did like a chat show, like
a comedy chat show thing it was. It was called
Space Couch and Honor of Space Ghost.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Interesting, uh huh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I wrote this whole thing where so the couch that
the guest would sit on was brought into space by
the Russians and then got blasted by cosmic radiation and
became sentient. And I got Paul F. Tompkins to voice
the couch. So during the show we got to like talk,
you know, back and forward to the couch and then
we're getting biased on. And had a musician friend of

(27:42):
mine Disaster Radio aka Eyeliner if you're into vapor wave,
he's like the oj He he was my you know,
my band leader on it. And we had a segment
called let the Simpsons Die. So he and I made
up this like video package that was just a bunch
of famous comedians in New Zealand going, hey, I grew

(28:02):
up with the Simpsons. I love the Simpsons. Simpsons means
everything to me. You've got to pull the plug on
the fucking show man for the good of for the
good of the show. You gotta say die, it's gone, baby,
it's gone.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Really seriously addressing the camera.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, totally, like said piano music, my chords.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
That's amazing. And you would have pulled the plug too
soon because apparently it's back.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Apparently it's back, baby.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Maybe what is something you think is overrad it.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
It's almost it's almost overdone to say this, but teaseless man,
and I've been delighted to see the stock price kind
of tumbled the last the last little while. I don't
know I'm following this, but just if you kind of
drilled man, I'm so American listeners, he said, Tesla's I
just want to clarify that.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
But some people were like, yes, we're talking Tesling, you're
going sorry.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
If this two things I hate it is vowel sounds
and the Tesla company.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well yeah, there it's it's that's also just a just
a disaster in motion.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Although but they pulled it off, which is so crazy
to me because there's there's a couple of there's like
a couple of books out there. I kind of got
real deep. There's a podcast called Truanon who did a
three part series on the history of of Tesla as
a company, and like they really frauded their way to

(29:35):
the to getting on the NaNs deck and getting to
the position that they are now, which is too big
to fail, which is so freaky.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, it's the plan. Yeah, there's like a way to
do it.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, it's a bad it's a bad fucking company, dude.
And those cars seem to be just quietly like killing
quite a few people. And every time it sort of
comes up, the company like suites the people and to
not say anything.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I don't want to get you guys trouble here.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, no, I mean you've heard our ads. We read
a lot of ads for Tesla on.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The sh I'm actually recording this from a Tesla on
Autopilot as per our contract, and Autopilot obviously got.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
To focus on the show man, you got to do it.
But just what a what a ship show? There's cyber
truck man. I can't believe that actually came out and
it's anyone board.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
But it's so bad that like it was breaking in
a car, like guys like I took I got it
washed and it stopped working.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
They're like, and then the service center is like, did
you put it in car wash mode.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
They're like, what, it's a fucking car. It's like, well,
now we got to reboot it.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
You can't drive it for five hours while we You're like,
is this a fucking car?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
What is this car wash mode? Dude?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
It's absurd. Every time I read about I mean, we'll
get into it. It was the story, but every time it's
just fucking it's a common but fuck it, let's just
get into it. I mean, that's our first story.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, what a what a professional. He even made his
overrated our first story of the day. Multiple dick kicks
for Elon Musk over the last few weeks. For for once,
we have something in common with Elon Musk. Miles and
I got spectacularly multiple dick kicked in our NBA fandom

(31:27):
in the past week, and uh, Elon taking salties correct
multi dick dkays multi multi da mdk's murder death kills
as they call them in the reality of what is
it demolition Man? But anyway, yeah, in the last few weeks,
we saw videos of cyber trucks where people's fucking like,

(31:49):
this is so stupid. They want you to shift gears
like on the touch screen, so like in case that
ship ships. So they've put a so like a mounted,
a windshield mounted gear selector panel for you to like
what they switch gears via touch. Yes, that such a

(32:09):
fucking night. Other way, such a disaster.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
The other way is this fucking windshield it's a windshield
fucking mounted uh.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Of the dancers? Yeah yeah, yeah, I guess that dashboard
mounted but yea yeah exactly like with a suction company.
What I can't even like picture what you're describing here.
Let me show you a picture like it.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
It'll be you know how you want to say through
your windshield. You know it's better than that just looking
a shift not seeing.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Everybody knows that people want to see through their windshields.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
So that's presupposed to see this thing right here you
can touch park and someone had their windshield service and
like they tried to touch it and just flopped right off.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, like well it has been did you not put
it in touch it mode?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But they're also saying it's like fucking up the sun
visor and like former engineers are like, what a fuck up?
This is like the most high use part of a
fucking car, and like fucking pet's heads are falling off
it's just a fucking disaster.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
So then the wild the wildest one was the accelerator dude.
So yes, oh that this was a bit like somebody did.
Somebody released a video where they were like, so I
found this on my floor and I didn't know what
it was. If it turned out it was the accelerator pedal,
it slid off, I put it back on, then it

(33:37):
slid up and got jammed between the panels and the
foot well. So it caused like it's the nightmare thing,
the like out of control acceleration. It's final destination. Yeah,
it's final destination, like they are they built a final
destination machine.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
And thank god the guy who happened to that it
was him because he did he did that video and
he's like, hey, I just wanted to sort of highlight
this potential design. Yeah, and was super chill, and he
was like, look, I gotta say I was able to
keep my cold. The cow was suddenly speeding out of control,
so I started applying the break. But if like if
I was in a car and I didn't know what

(34:15):
was going on and it just started accelerating and I
was not doing I would freak the fuck out. I
probably would kill multiple people by accident.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, and you would because the fucking thing seven thousand
fucking pounds. You know what I mean, You've created a
like aff like an unstoppable Yeah, seven thousand pound fucking
behemoth were the acceler anyway, So that led to a
second recall for the phone. Shit, it really weighs seven
thousand pounds.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I thought, No, that's not a joke, dude, It weighs
seven thousand fucking like it. Nothing makes fucking sense. It
can't go through a fucking car wash allegedly. Uh, and
the shit's falling off allegedly, but the pedals definitely fucked
up because y'all did a recall because it might cause
unintentional acceleration. What a euphemistic description of you will die

(35:01):
in a seven thousand pound as the Internet calls it,
the in cell camino, which I think is a fantastic joke.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Name for that, but then cell caminoid that. Aside from that,
there are reports about how musks, just shittheaded antics are
pissing off the libs. That's right, Elon may get a
kick out of it and sip in the liberal tears.
He should remind himself that the Libs are the ones
that actually made Tesla popular in the first place, and

(35:28):
sales have dropped sixty percent among that group according to surveys.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
They said they found just lower consumer interest in Tesla
in general, but they said Democrats really start to drop
off significantly in October of last year. They made up
forty percent of Tesla sales for the twenty twenty two
model year and thirty nine percent twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
When the twenty twenty four model year Tesla's went on sale,
the number of Democrats in the mix drop to fifteen percent.
So you know, I actually did that on purpose, Yeah,
because fuck them, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
But the other thing is too, despite him being like
the right wing darling of the Internet, those people are
too hopped up on Fox News that they really think
driving an EV will like make them gay and allow
Joe Biden to take your truck nuts away, and they're like, yeah,
I'm good on that. So they aren't exactly making up
for the lost sales from the liberals, which has now

(36:23):
led to around fourteen thousand people.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Are gonna get let go from Tesla.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
They're like slashing prices like they're like, it's like fucking
a fire sale and my current owners, like, I just
oh shit.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I just spilled water all over my fucking desk.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Shit, see this, what happens my karma for talking about
fucking Elon musk.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
So your desk is more waterproof than a cyber truck. Dude,
I dumped so much. Oh shit, give me one second
due this.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Do we have computers down?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
What the fuck? Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
What People who are familiar with my other podcasts know
I do this very sometimes.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
That's what is happening over there. It's this seems more
dramatic than you spilled a drink bottle. This is like
someone's shilling. I've absolutely fucked the bed mate. It's pretty good.
I can tell you've been talking to a lot of.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Whatever. Dude, it's all, it's all fucked, all right, all right,
we're back. We're back. Fuck it. You know, I'll deal
with it. We'll deal with it later. I think it's
mostly I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
No, it's getting all over the How much water came
out of this damn bottle?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Man? Look at it's it's like a near forty ounce cup.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Oh no, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I bought it to drink alcohol chicily at a hotel
because I didn't want to pay like the pool bar prices.
I was like, let's just fill this fucking nondescript steamless
steel bug up with vodka. And yeah, and now I
think the carm has bit me in the ass.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
All right, you're an old Kama for wanting to drink VODKEA.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I reads this every time. You think it's cool, and
then you go back and you're like, and now this
thing is also fun.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
All over my car, look at Shaggy Dog comedy Skeedule's
gonna start spraying up on your face, sh everywhere al right.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Anyway, God, I really should invest in one of those
sippy cups that's there.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I am a baby. You're better than that.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Miles.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Don't let one spell get you down, like fucking multiple
maybe you can't maybe.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Got it all over? My rolling papers are ruined? Where
was I?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I'll bring you back.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
I will bring you back in because I know what
you're talking about. You're so right about the Teasler firesales stuff.
If you go on Twitter, now you get all of
his tweets like forced down your throat just by going
on to the website, like it's a damn pop up
from hell, and it's just every second one is talking
about the woke mind virus and then it'll be followed

(39:03):
up with, oh, by the way, eight thousand dollars off
the modelist right now, Yeah, that's the ship, this car
running costs that exists on it. Like you know, when
Elon is tweeting the sales pitch for Tisla's the company
has a problem.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, we're in desperation mode fully fully but.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Anyway, like now what we're seeing is they just had
a fucking earnings call and they revealed analysts are like,
it's not going to be a bad year. We're predicting
around forty percent drop off in profits. They even shocked
the analysts and like, yeah, about a fifty five percent
drop off in profits. And it was like spitting their
Nike will out of their mouths, being like what did
he just say? And but the thing is worry not.

(39:42):
The stock price had a ten percent bounce because it
was announced that they are working on new models and
AI robotics ready. So someone on the call asked a
very direct question to Elon Musk on that earnings call,
and they said, you know, we know cha sales are
slumping in China. What are your thoughts on the EV

(40:03):
market in China because that was a huge part of
the profitability of the company.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
And Elon just pivoted and said, quote, really, we should
be thought of as an AI robotics company. If you
value Tesla as just an auto company, you just have
to fundamentally that's just the wrong framework. If you ask
the wrong question, then the right answer is impossible. If
somebody doesn't believe Tesla is going to solve autonomy, I

(40:28):
think they should not be an investor in the company.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So he just said, Wow, you hear that, you fucking haters,
Tesla is even a car company anymore, you fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
We're doing he butt. He responded to this very straightforward
question about like the fundamentals of the business by being like,
you know what, I don't want you to invest in
the company. You don't get to have Tesla stock.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Sounds like Harlan Williams in something about Mary when he's
talking about his like seven.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Minute abs thing. Yeah, and then unless someone comes up
with seven minute, that's like no, it's fucking the magic
numbers eight. Like you're like, whoa, right, dude, I'm just
asking you a fucking question, oh Man, to your earlier point,
Tim like that this ship works. I mean, yeah, there
was a ten percent rebound. He knows like this is

(41:18):
his skill, right, He is good at talking the sort
of ship that the markets respond to. Like that's all
that that is his skill. He didn't invent Tesla, he
didn't found Tesla. He like came along and recognized that
it was a good sales pitch to Wall Street. And
that is his genius is jumping in there. He's not.

(41:41):
He's not Tony Stark.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
And the early days of the company they missed and
I mean they still continue to do this a bit,
but definitely back in the early days when he first
got involved, he would just announce that they were going
to ship the craziest number of cars. They would never
get anywhere even fucking close to delivering. Year after year exact,
they would announce models that would never come out. They
would announce technology. I mean, these things were supposed to

(42:06):
be autonomous self driving in like twenty nineteen, and there's
video compilations that people have put out where it's just
like every nine months and months.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Away to gold months away from going coast to coast
an auto pilot.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
He would say all the time.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
The true, like sort of untold secret of Tesler is
that what happened in the early days of the company
is the Obama administration issued all of these tax credits
to car companies that said that they were going to
build EV fleets, and you got a particular number of
tax credits based on how many, how what percentage of

(42:41):
your total fleet was going to be EV. And so
Tesler was like, it's one hundred percent of ours, and
we're going to make a bazillion cars, And so.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
He could like sell those credits to the car companies.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Right, And so they didn't even build the cars they
were going to they said that they were going to
build that they got the tax credits for. So they'd
never delivered on that promise, but it didn't matter. They
got awarded the tax credits anyway. Now those tax credits
are got like they're not being issued anymore. So they're
worth an insane amount of money. And they made all
of their money by selling those credits to Toyota and

(43:15):
to Mitsubishi and all these other car companies. So every
time that they had to do like an earnings report
and you could see all the sales started, they weren't
selling enough cars, but then they would just sell a
fuck ton of these tax credits to be able to
boost the share price quarter after quarter, like the whole
thing was a god deck again, but he managed to

(43:35):
pull it off for so long that he got listed
in the NASDAK And now the thing is like too
big to fall over.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Fully And that's yea. His skills business is that he
is able to blow whimsical smoke up our collective assholes.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
And yeah, people were like, yeah, I think so because
like what he said. He said, Tesla is going to
solve a tonic. Like again, to your point, how long
has this Tesl is gonna solve autonomy? Uh, don't get
a fuck to me. Then get the fuck out of here,
like I don't even want you, and like, yeah, you
start doing that cult shit. They're like, you're not a
true believer. Think there's the fucking door. Guess what, asshole,

(44:12):
And they're.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Like no, no, no, I'll buy more.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Actually I'm gonna buy more because of what you said.
And to your point, they've been on the brink of
fully autonomous cars with nothing to show for. What about
the fucking hyper loop?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
When the fuck? What about that asshole. How many fucking
fake ass things has he sold people? And when you
talk about the latest thing that came out about autopilot
was a fucking guy who killed a motorcyclist because he
let Elon Jesus take the wheel while he was browsing
on his fucking phone and he killed a fucking motorcycle guy,
Like in Washington. This happened like last week.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Those are the stories you get about autopilot, not about
how fucking amazingly autonomous the whole shit is.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Did you see that YouTube video where they were testing
it's like child detection.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Can system.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Oh no, it's scary. I can't remember what channel did it.
But they were like, look, we're getting a lot of people.
We'll talk about Tesla's but actually the guidance systems. I
don't think it's as bad as everyone's saying. I mean
they've made like cardboard cutouts of kids and that would
like it would drive up to the kid and slow
down and then stop, and they were like, see this
thing works, and then no foot on the accelarate would

(45:16):
just start going again. The car would just plow through
the kids. So it would slow down and stop next
to them and then just go again.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
You got the pat on the back for passing the
stop test and then keeps going for exactly Oh my god,
that's amazing. All right, well, let's let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back to talk about resenteeism
of friends that it feels like Elon Musk might have
come up with himself. And we're back, and employers, we

(45:57):
had some bad news. It's not just Tesla's an report.
You also have some gen Z workers who they're not
even just quiet quitting anyway, dude, now they're resenteism. No,
what's that? Yeah? What the fuck? This means the newest
capitalist fear that just dropped that all your fellow C

(46:19):
suite employees are gonna be talking about. Yeah, it's a
it's a mixture of absenteeism and resentment. It seems like
it's the same thing as quiet quitting. They just got
like angrier about it, and so now they're like, really,
they're like resentful little assholes. It's actually omicron version now

(46:43):
of the same thing, which is just worker alienation, I believe,
as Marx called it. But anyway, like, yes, I love
when these stories they inevitably pop up in these business
centric outlets like CNBC or The Wall Street Journal or Forbes,
and it's always like, okay, the entire US media, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Right, potentially right, And there was like we gotta be
on high alert for the new way the workers are
fucking around and they always treated like this mist like
the fucking havana syndrome that managers need to be on
high alert for.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's like, there's the fucking thing taking over just this description, right.
It's a growing trend where employees continue working in roles
they find dissatisfying because they either can't find a better
suited job or think they won't be able to. It's
an evolved version of quiet quitting, Like in evolved, there's
an evolution of this.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
In the mass work guys. This is the centuries it
maybe thousands of years. Not only are they disengaged, but
they are resentful about it. Quiet quitting was about working
on autopilot to reduce stress. Resenteeism is about feeling trapped
in your role. And since these quote unquote journalists are

(47:52):
incapable of looking at things through the prism of a
capitalist critique, they observe things like worker alienation playing out
in their faces and are like what's.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Your sup phenomenon? Why is in uphourting the younger people?
What the book is going on?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
We literally made it illegal to unionize, but for some reason,
the workers also aren't happy.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
What the hell is going on? They said, the fucking problem.
A remarkable forty percent of remarkable forty seven percent of
gen Z respondents say they're coasting by at work, with
only forty percent they're saying they are thriving. The younger
generation is also most likely to say they're just working
for a paycheck forty two percent, while.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Older generations are more likely to say they are quote
fired up about their jobs.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Oh man, Oh yeah, I'm fired up because my boss
just said I'm a rock star. Oh or thriving at work.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
I'm sorry, I don't want to hang out with you,
and I'm pulling an Elil Musk on you, like just
you can leave the room. You are not an investor
in tamank.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
It's a crazy thing.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
If you've got a normal job, if you've got a
normal last nine till five, you're not supposed to love it.
It is this crazy thing of like how we talk
about jobs and how it's written about that You're you're
supposed to be there because you love the role. And
I think the only reason that sort of like language
that idea exists is because bosses, the sort of you know,

(49:19):
the managerial class, successfully managed to trick us into not
talking about pay so that we could compare rates with
each other to kind of gain a little bit of
bargaining power against against the capitalists basically. And so now
we've got this situation where we've got this whole fake
language about how everyone's at work because they're fucking psyched
to be there. Dude, Everyone's working for money, man. That's

(49:40):
the reason you go to work is to pay your
mortgage is to pay you're in and so you can
eat and have a roof over your head. Can we
stop fucking pretending it's about something else, right, It's the toil.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
It's the fucking toil. And it's like, oh no, these
workers are feeling alienated from their labor, like they feel
like they have no decision making and how their labor
is exploited or they don't get a return on the
value they create through their exploited labor, Like, I like,
what's the fucking point. Yeah, A lot of people are
arriving at this realization I think, I think really the

(50:13):
biggest thing missing from this analysis is how the promise
of social mobility through quote unquote work has paid off
less and less and less as the years go on.
Of course, boomers and Gen xers are fucking fired up
because and more engaged with their work because they were
told going to college means you can buy a house
and be middle class, and that was mostly true for them.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, and then millennials less so, and Gen z even
fucking less. They can already see in high school, fucking
mid junior high that, like you can already see kids
being like, what's this fucking world that you live in?
You just toil, not to make ends meet and pretend
like it's not a fucking nightmare that you have no
social protection, Like no social were weal from like none

(50:56):
of this? And the media is is I guess bringing
back to Simpsons doing the principal Skinner meme where they're like,
am I out of touch?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
No, it's the children who are wrong. It's like yeah,
uh huh, yeah, yeah, hm, that's that's what it is.
It's fucking resenteesm like anything, but actually getting to the
fucking crux of what people are experiencing. It's just wild
that we find all these new ways to Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
That's gonna be like Forbes poetry competitions, like you know,
big poetry slams before we actually get to.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
A capitalist critique being right, Yeah, there is something wrong
with this system. No, it's called toil burnout. Oh okay,
what's that? I think people just aren't recognizing enough that
here at Tesla we're family, and your very family family
because you don't have time to spend at home, so

(51:50):
we kind of just default become your family because we're
the only human beings you ever see.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
And if you even needed evidence that conservatives are full
of shit, that right there. That was the dream. That
was kind of like the dream that you go to
work and you're part of a family. You're part of
a work fame, ye aren't you guys, the sort of
coalition of family values. But it was supposed to be
you know, hanging out down.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
We just said that, get the Bible thumpers into the polls.
That's all really yea, get to work. Yeah, just such
a nest soup mind And it just really is this,
I you know, it's just like this. It's the disillusionment
that young people feel when you go through this process.
I went through it myself, graduating college when the fucking
market crashed in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,

(52:39):
and being like, dude, I my whole fucking life. They say,
go to try and go to college, get a degree,
you'll get a job. Then you can, you can you
enter the middle class and there's that ship is full
on vaporware.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Now. Yeah, to then be like scratch your head and.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Be like, why are they like fuck it, because you
guys have already gone to this point. You don't realize
how little the opportunity is for younger people and that
there aren't even programs in place to be like, yeah,
I guess what man work under the threat of being
unhoused and dying in the street.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
They did.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
The boomers didn't have to pull the ladder up as well,
Like there was a way to do it where they
sort of prospered, and then you know, their time in
the sun came to an end and they sort of
shed up their stack. But that just they bought all
of the houses and then turned them into this weird
financial commodity. But I've been thinking recently about this, like
people our age when I entered the so i'd like
did some jobs out of high school, you know, we

(53:34):
can and call centers and stuff. And then when I
decided that I wanted to get into radio, I did
like a little radio school course. I got a job.
I got made redundant three times in three years because
it was during the GFC, right, That's like when I
went in two thousand and eight, went out to get
my first jobs in radio, just kept getting made redundant
again and again again. Of course, no payouts or anything,

(53:56):
because I was this a junior person who've been there
like eleven months before the company fell over because advertising
revem you dried up. But it's sort of it put
this thing into my head which I hadn't realized until recently.
I have never fucking trusted a job will be there.
And I think there's a lot of people our age
who we got quite like creative and sort of entrepreneurial

(54:18):
because the job market completely failed us when we first
got in to starting our careers. So we got so
burned so early, which sucks because not everyone, you know,
is that way inclined and not everyone wants to work
like that. But there's there is a sector of like,
you know, our generation and my friends and stuff, who
I can see they got so fucked over in that

(54:38):
period when we left high school we're trying to start
our professional vibes that we were like, all right, this
doesn't work, I'm going to have to do this myself entirely.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, And as that was happening to everyone, they were
also bailing out millionaires and billionaires. So like, yeah, it's
just like the irony.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
They can't look after themselves, apparently the richest people. It's like,
oh no, they hunt look after themselves. They need welfare.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, right. They always want to make it seem like
we're childish and like that. But like this is something
we've we talked about earlier in the week, This idea
of like it's really easy when you're like talking about
a generation or like big swaths of people, it's easy
to just like make these broad, you know, determinations that
they're they're actually more resentful this generation. They're because they're

(55:26):
not adult enough. It's like, no, people are smart, they're
reacting to the situation that you've put them in. And
this is like the so the idea of social mobility
has gone away in the United States, Like it's let
like US, a thing that the United States like prided
itself on has never been very true in the first place,

(55:49):
and is far less true in the US than like
in most other countries. It's and and yet we have
a mainstream media that repeatedly tells you like, yeah, social mobil,
do you just work your way up bootstrapg.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
But you're not gonna win if you're like engaged in
like resenteism. Like that's just not a winning formula, you
know what I mean, It's just ingenuous.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
And you can let a lot of a lot of
shit slide if you feel like you're working towards genuinely
walking working towards the promotion or you're going to get
the gold watch at some point. But as soon as
that stuff gets taken away, like then you're just faced
with the brutal reality of all the bullshit that comes
with work. Yeah right, Yeah, people are going to be
pissed off about that. They're going to react for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
And like the quiet quitting, it's like, no, these are
people who are just protecting them their their emotional state
from not going from losing their fucking minds having to
toil in this fucked up cycle and it's not like,
what's just quiet, quidn.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
It's like, no, man, I have to like.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Half check out or else I'll fucking die. Like that's
just how That's the only way I'm going to make
it through this ship. But yeah, it's again it's the
it's the children that are wrong because it's the exact
same as I was. It's funny because I also have
this conversation a lot too, like older people that I
talked to who are like who are.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Trying semi interested, and like my grandson, you know, he's
like twenty one, and he's like, I'm worried, like he's
never gonna leave his mother's home and you know, just
like only work at this like like you know, like
a subway kind of place. And I'm like, well, do you.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Think that there are other options available to him? And
they're like, well, I mean when I was their age, like,
I had an apartment and I'm like, and what did
you do for work to Like I worked at a restaurant?
Oh okay, so you worked in one job. Yeah, okay,
so you worked one job at a restaurant and you
had an apartment in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Like in DC proper. Yeah, Okay, well you can't that
that just so you know that financial reality does not
fucking exist anymore. That's fucking fantasy now. And it's so
like there's no like these like you know, the real
entrenched media class and these like older people have not
had like a had a reckoning with that reality. There's

(57:57):
still there's still like this idea that that those opportunities
still exist. So they're left scratching their head and like
why are they all pissed off? Like I did it?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
But now you're right about their mass, You're right, I think, Yeah,
there needs to be like more graphs. We need to
give more graphs, need to make a comeback. They need
to be big sixty graphs every way showing like the
salaries versus rents in nineteen seventy and the nineteen eighty
and then today so that our parents' generation can literally
see oh crazy it is, and the generation under us

(58:27):
as well. Right, Like you know, I'm I pulled my
back going to the gym this week. That's how old
I am. Just to give you a little little idea
of where I'm coming from. But it is it's the
like twenty twenty five year olds who are coming up
now that I'm so fucking worried about. These guys got
like three years of their high school socialization taken away
from them, and so they're all a little bit weird inside. Kids. Anyway,

(58:51):
the economy is completely cooked. And the trouble is they
can see it.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
It's like they go in and they're like, this whole
fucking thing's on fire.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
At least we were like anxieties.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
At least we had like blinders on in the slaughterhouse,
you know what I mean, Like we were going through
in calls.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's cool. And when I get outside,
I'm gonna graduate Bovine University. And then you fucking go
and then you get a pneumatic aircan and through your
temple and you're fucking slumped over and they eat your
fucking body. Whereas like these kids now, they're like, yo, bro,
I'm hearing screams coming out of that yeah, killing all there.

(59:27):
I'm like, are they My cousin does not look chill.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
My cousin looks like he is having a bad fucking
time of this.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, And it's and it's then that's why I think
it's really fucked up that like there's still this continued
analysis of trying to diagnose what's happening with like younger
people without not looking at the fucking environment.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Then what role that has to play with and just
be like these kids are just so difficult.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
All right, you call them for you Forbes. They're fucking broke, dude. Yeah,
they don't even any money and houses are too expensive.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Now, yeah, this is my column. There is five words
said cent t worker is sad cent SA. So we're
gonna add some sadness in there. I feel like that's
runaway child because we're a family here at Morgan Stanley.
Jamie Diamond did just come out and say the economy

(01:00:21):
is booming. So I don't know what your cousin is
talking about, but Jamie Diamond, Mark Morgan, Chase Bank exactly sick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah, And that's why I like, I hope too for
like younger people that listen to the show and stuff
like it sucks because it feels like you're in this
world where no one fucking understands. But like, you know,
I get it, some of us fucking get it. Unfortunately,
I'm sure a lot of people are getting lectured in
these fucked up ways about like you can should be
doing more without this actual consideration for the like the

(01:00:56):
fucking terrarium that you're trying to exist in and how
fucking violent and chaotic it is, because it's so fucking hard.
And yeah, to your point, Tim like it, Like I
feel so fucking fortunate that I, like was able to
have a little bit of flexibility pivoting careers, Like I
left politics.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
And I wanted to do comedy and I was able
to do that. But I had like a parent that
would like, let me live at home and try and
get on my feet and shit, and but it's so
fucking difficult now. And yeah, that's why I like you.
You know, all this goes back to like what what
do we expect from our leaders?

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
I really I do have a faith that this is
unsustainable though what's sort of the current just just mood
and sort of I don't know, economic common sense that
seems to be prevailing. Like the kids are smart, man,
the people coming up our generation knows everything's pretty fucking
nonsensical and unsustainable. But I don't think we sort of

(01:01:51):
had the courage or the true like being in the
house while it's on fire moment to sort of spur
us into action. But I think the generation that's just
coming out now they will so yeaheah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Because we got radicalized in our mid twenties, you know,
our late or early to mid twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
These kids are on TikTok now super early, and they're like, yeah,
getting exposure to Max, you know Max's economic theory when
there's twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, there are some.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Good components of TikTok. Well it's getting banned, right, is
it happening?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Yeah, it's gonna get that, And that's how we're gonna
deal with the rising socialism. With these younger TikTok they're
in a TikTok they learned about fucking angles. Man, Get
this ship off the fucking app It's all this TikTok crap.
It's not the fucking world people live in. It's not
that TikTok makes people pro Palestinian.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It's that people have this the wherewithal to look at
something and say, I don't like that, I don't like
this situation, I don't like the financial reality of this country.
But again, it's much it's more convenient to blame it
on resenteeism or fucking TikTok rather than looking at the
fucking but again, they benefit it from the status quo,
So why fucking bother to really examine it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Do you think things are going to change?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
I think change.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I think like with anything, you know, like with with
increased knowledge comes increased possibility. So I whither it might
not happen like in a flash in a very dramatic way,
but I feel like, like you know, you can just
see with the rise in the labor movement in the
United States, people at the very least are beginning to
be like, I deserve more and I don't deserve to

(01:03:31):
be existentially freaked out every time I get a paycheck
because I have to worry about can I cover everything
with it? But again, I'm sure there are many forces
at work trying to, you know, shift attention and be
like it's this or it's that, It's not because of
people you know, stealing your money. But I do think, again,
like with everything, like, I'm always heartened to see how engaged,
like like younger and younger people are and so much

(01:03:54):
more up on shit. I always say it that I'm like, dude,
I fucking my head was fucking in the clouds when
I was twenty one and I'm just I see some
of like the most badass young people doing shit that
like I couldn't even dream of doing, like even in
my thirties. So I feel like that's it's building towards something.
What that turns into will get to see, we shall

(01:04:15):
take this see just quickly. I've I've I seriously believe this.
I think that as soon as we can get magic
mushrooms legalized quite broadly, yeah, in the West, I really
think shit's going to pop off. I think it's going
to be a fantastic catalyst for people kind of like
waking up a little bit from the night room, being
like a hold up, helping each other and hanging out

(01:04:39):
and maybe restoring the environment in nature and looking after
the planet that you know sustains us. I genuinely think
if we can make a push to get mushrooms legalized,
I think it's going to speed up the rate of improvement.
It's definitely happening on the West Coast like every day
like there that the movement for psychedelics like grows larger
and larger and larger. But then again like yeah, and

(01:05:01):
then we'll probably find it's like Pfizer's like yeah, take
pilicidebox fromer Fine.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
If Izer wants to give out silicidebox, that's the great's
probably the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Great thing about weight. That's why weed works, right, because
you can grow weeds, so they will always growlicide box. Yeah,
but mushrooms that it's very hard for them to God,
I don't want to give Phizer any ideas, but please
don't try and wipe out make.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
It more market right yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I do
like the thing that what's that pharmacy or not pharmaceutical
that chemical company did where they like, yeah, round up,
They'll do the round up of psilocybin. Yeah, oh god,
They're like round up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You're going to see class action lawsuit commercials like in
twenty years, Like did you take pilicidebox in the twenty thirties?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
If you did, you may be entitled to compensation. Right, Well, Tim,
what a pleasure haven't you on the show? Thank you
for joining us so early your time. Where can people
find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I'm on social media. I'm on Instagram and Twitter. I'm
chilling a little bit from internet stuff at the moment.
I've got a one month old baby, I've got a
two and a half year old. Baby, I invite you
to do the same, everybody. Maybe chill out for a
little bit, come join me, and just getting offline a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
But I'll be back, baby. I'll be back back.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
When I'm doing stand up and stuff, maybe in six
months or twelve months from now, but right now I'm
having a nice time just kind of helping my friends
do their comedy stuff. So hey, do you know what
I'm saying, don't find me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
You don't need to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Just go about a day, have a lovely time, and
I'll see you in a year when I've got something
to sell, like a YouTube special.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Or what have you. We'll have you back before then.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Yeah, I would love that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
There is this YouTube channel that the algorithm gave to
me called synth Fit syn thht and they're just these
like forty five videos of a guy who uses e
fl Studios, which used to be called Fruity Lost when
I was a teen, which is like a music making
the software, and he's giving tutorials on like how to

(01:07:12):
just how to do all these little audio techniques. I
don't make music. I'm not an audio producer or not
like a music producer at all, but he makes them
as music and he's just got these fire little forty
five second like bangers that he makes while he tells
you about how to add reverb to the kick drum.
But he's created a little song as he's telling you.

(01:07:32):
And they're all so cool, and it's just that's the
Internet at its best for me, someone who's passionate about
what they do. They're making their art and it's it's
just cool. It's cool and weird and niche and beautiful.
So I invite you to check out that guy's channel.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Have you seen the competitions they have where people are
speed running beat making on fl studio, Like you just
see them click a click, they're just like putting all
the high hats in on the sequencer step sequencer, like
manuclicking in and then they hit play and it's like
a full on trap beat and you're like, you don't
even fucking hear one sound.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
It's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
There's like battles of this shit that people do online.
I saw it, and I'm sure you'll like that since
you're familiar.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
With Yeah, the DAWs as it were, humans trying to
be ai before the AI takes Please.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Look, I can come up with a non description amazing miles.
Where can people find us their working media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Oh man, uh, let's see Uh find me at Miles
of Gray wherever they got the at symbols.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
You can also find me and Jack on our basketball podcast,
Miles and Jack on Bostis. You can also find me
on four to twenty Fiance with Sophia Alexander, where I
will continue to spill shit all over my fucking desk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
And also, let's see a tweet I like at goodreddit
Quote tweeted I don't know this fucking stupid trend on
Twitter where people were like, look between W and TR.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
On your keyboard. I fucking can't handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
It's like it's wild how quickly like those like sort
of joke forms pop up and we think we'll engage
with it for like a few days, and then it's
like it's naturally done. I've never seen one happen. And
then like with the day it happened, it was like,
fucking we're done. We can't do this shit anymore. So
good reddit Quote tweeted this one from at Guinness World Records.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
It said applicant. I want to break the world record
for longest time without sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Us look between Tea and you and you're like what,
and it's why And then the quote we just said,
Twitter is so fucking cooked, man, Yeah, it's fucking cooked, y'all. Yeah,
I don't With that in mind, I've been frantically looking
for a tweet. I've been enjoying because I don't have one.

(01:09:43):
So go relax and enjoy your.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Family or talk to somebody who you haven't talked to
in a while. That's my tweet. I've been enjoying. I
caught up with an old high school friends this weekend.
That's my work of media. Oh, there's your work of media.
How long had it been since you caught up with
the hig? Uh? Like six months? But before that it
had been like years to high school basically, So it

(01:10:10):
was we've been just trying to trying to keep in touch.
We're doing a little reading thing where we like check
out a book and read it and then like talk
about the book. All right, high mind. They're called clubs.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
I wouldn't want to be the guy Jack, but yeah,
this is a weird.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
This is the thing. This is the thing that people
have been doing. You don't say yeah anyways. Uh. You
can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You
can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at
the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan
page and a website, Daily zeke Guys dot com. We
post our episodes and our footnote. We link off to

(01:10:47):
the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, Yeah,
what's the song you think people might We're getting in
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I need to get my body move in the talk
of Psilocybe and makes me yearn for the sound of
drum and bass music. And I gotta go out on
another Nia Archives track. This one's called Unfinished Business, and
ner Archives is just a fantastic producer, DJ artist, and
you know, look, get I'm telling you the drum and
bass wave is here. Just hop on, embrace it, ride

(01:11:20):
it because it's a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
And I think it's probably some of the most emotive
forms of electronic music that's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
And I know I sound like some old head edm person,
but I truly believe that anyway, Unfinished Business Neia archives.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Check this one out. We look off to that in
the footnotes, Dailey's eike as the production of by Heart Radio.
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