They Ate…MY Face? Grinch Cringe 12.18.25

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I had a very interesting parent moment this morning when
I was walking my kid to preschool. His preschool is
like near like an elementary school, and they were having
like a Christmas concert outside. So like we walked by
and there's like a group full of like I don't know,
like third graders singing Christmas Time is here, but from
the Charlie Brown Christmas So it sounded like the fucking

(00:26):
recorder they were doing it. Yeah, yeah. And I saw
these parents and then I started getting emotional because I
immediately was like, what if that was my child singing
my favorite Christmas song? And then her mess She's like,
what the fuck is wrong with you? And I was like, oh,
I was like I just I was like, this is beautiful.
She's like, but I think it's falling out it's so warm.
I was like no, no, I told her. I was like,

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this is my favorite song and one day he could
sing it and I'll be one of them. I just had,
like I think I had like vicarious parental like overwhelming emotions. Yeah, overwhelmingness. Yeah.
But I look all these parents like bored as hell.
Gotta be someone who's a mess over there. Everyone's just

(01:07):
like on their phones Jesus, come on, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, my parents.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
My parents didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I could tell they they did not care about my recitals.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
But we weren't good. It's fair like it didn't. It
didn't sound fun. You're anyone musician too, so yeah that
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
He was like, you should have hit that that much harder,
yet I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
He was in the crowd, like sting watching that guy
do a cover of every step you take to see
that video?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
What is that? There's this clip this.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Guy's like up there, like playing on the acoustic guitars
Harris stab you like and it just cuts the sting
and he's like, oh no, Like he's like wincing along
with this kind of kind of incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh, this was like at a big concert. Yeah, it
was a big event. He looked like he just got
his cyanide capsule down.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sorry, just stuck in my throat.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Good. The sweet relief, sweet release of death is upon me.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four nineteen, Episode
four of Dirt Eileysai.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Guys. Yeah, it's a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's a podcast we take a deep dive into American
share consciousness through.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
The day's news.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
We also have a weekly history version of the show
dropping each Monday morning. We dive into the history of
different icons. You know, just talking before we started recording
about the Miss Piggy episode with Jamie Loftus. Yep, miss
Piggy now waking up into her single single Ladies Face.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yep, exactly exactly. Hey, check out the episode.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, the episode was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
If you didn't know that Miss Piggy did the Harry
met Sally diner scene diner orgasm. Yeah, tune into the episode.
Tune in.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We also recently did Santa with Blake Westler. That was
a fun one. Look for those episodes on Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Icon in the title.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
But now it is Thursday, December eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, that is National Twin Day. If you got a
twin shout out? Who are the twins?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I know?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh Brittany and Preston, Danny, Olivia, Nick and Nick. Okay,
let's see, oh Liz and Scott. These my family are
anyway famous twins famous, the most famous, and those are
the most I can't even think of anyone. National roast
Suckling pig Day, National Regifting.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Day, shining sorry, yeah, and some answer the telephone, like
buddy the Elf?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
What forget it? Just this is all detracting from the reason,
which is the birth of our savor, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Thank you else.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
One of the snicker at that toy? Are you? How
dare you? You know better than that? I know you
were raised in the tuir, you know better than that.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Elf is one of those movies that I really enjoy,
but like the stuff around it, the people who like
really embrace it.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't. I don't enjoy quite. I haven't seen Elf
since it came out.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh really, Yeah, it's a real uh holiday classic around
these parts. Is it because it's a funny, it's kid's favorite?
Is it because it is it because it feels very Christmasy?
Does it feel very Christmas? A fun I don't know.
Every time, I'm like James Kahn, I don't know, I
don't know, but he's the grinch in it, man, But
then he eventually has his heart melt.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
He does you walked out halfway through? Walked out? I
walked out, And I remember I told my friend about it.
He choked me out for telling him that it was
really bad. Anyway, cool Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Aka, AI makes bears that are tendon fires and on trampolines,
the animals jump higher and we burn, burn, burn all
the water, all the water. That one courtesy a scenar
feel on the discord in reference to.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
What I think is a fair trade off. Okay, I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Of these people complaining about the environmental impact of AI.
We get to watch bears ten fires and explain to
our parents that that's not actually happening.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You thought the bear knew how to make fucking s'mores.
I don't know. Maybe you're fucking getting smart. I don't
fucking thones, mom.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles Grass.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Miles Greg aka, how your name is Miles? That you
six too? How you hosting a podcast and you're six two?
Is there a Jack O'Brien if you're six too? How
you watch a Bravo and you're six two? Shut out
New Chris for that one. I don't know how. I
don't know, man, but what happened? This is what? This
is just me. I don't know why my name is
Miles and I'm six two, but it is Miles. You're

(05:51):
six two? How are you hosting a podcast in you're
six too?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like are you hosting a podcast in your six two?
Would be a good lyric for yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, they're like, Bro, really you're six two in your
hot else going? Got other ship going on? Right?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I got an excuse. I'm only six to one, so
that's right. Yeah, I'm not quite there. That's why you
didn't make a song. Nobody's expecting ship from me.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Put tims on, Put Tims on, then you'll get there.
I put some Tims on. Believe me. I know I'm double.
I'm double stagging Tims right now.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah. I put tiny Tims inside big Tims. Wait get
the six one?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh, I think you meant from a Christmas Carol? You
find tiny Tims. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I put tiny Tims inside big Tims. And that's what
decoration I thought you was talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Bob. Wait you Bob, you Bobby cratchit's little boy, right,
I remember you?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Look at you out of that guy needs to be
in a Christmas Carol.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Wait a minute, wait, hold on you, Bobby Cratched.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Completely learn England, London.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Smoking a black and mild, watching NBA highlights on your
phone on YouTube. Hold on, Hold, hold on, Bobby, crutches kid, right,
that's what your leg you're how you how you want crutches?
And six two? That's right? Tiny Tim? Yeah, named tiny
Tim and you're six too, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seed
by a brilliant anti racism educator, activist, writer, creator of
the acclaim podcast White Homework, and co host of Go
Home Bible.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You're Drunk.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's Tory Williams Douglass hiv On.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's so going to see you guys. I think it
was on last Christmas season too, So this is exciting
for you.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
You know, this is you know why unlike any other.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Because I like having people that understand the stakes of
the season. You know what I mean to people talking
about Sandy, people who have read the Bible? Yeah, okay,
who knows? Who are who are down to mock Baltasar
the wise Man and offensive black face caricatures?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh no, little wise men in the Nativity sets. Was
always a black dude.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, isn't that isn't isn't that Baltasar?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, I mean they weren't real. I don't know what
their names are.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
That Baltasar?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I will take your word for it.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hey, shout out your favorite wise man on three.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Frankinsenset who brought that?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I just know their gifts? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Babies babies need franking sense.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I think incense. Oh yeah, I think we did. They're like, oh,
I know what that baby needs. Murder Tory. We're thrilled
to have you here.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in the moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners a
couple of the things we're talking about today. We're gonna
check in with Vivek Promise Swami, who thought.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
He could do it.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
He thought he could make his way in the maga world. Today,
he has a new op ed for The New York
Times basically laying out how he is seeing the future
of the racist movement that has thoroughly rejected him.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Donald Trump taking a page from the George W. Bush playbook.
He's officially designated fentanel as a weapon of mass destruction,
so we'll talk about that and just how his administration
is doing with regards to overdoses. We're gonna check in
with the Grinch. Every year, the Grinch gets more and

(09:31):
more popular and used in the most fucked up ways possible,
both to sell shit and to justify fascism this year,
so we'll talk about that, wasn't.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
It last year? The cops were like chasing down a
grinch who was like, get that grinch who stole the Christmas?
Like were the cops? Yeah, fucked the Grinch.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
That movie would have been better if they had shot
the grinch. Well, he was breaking and entering.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
If the cops would just indiscriminately fire their guns like
they did, and it's a wonderful life.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's just licking shots into a grabbit, shooting.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
From my hip bro and the crowd. Okay, Well, anyway, what.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Had he done that made them decide to try and
shoot him in the.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Bed because he freak He freaked out his wife, who
she was like, I don't know this motherfucker. He's like
it's me, what are you? Oh? Come on, you remember me?
And then they just tried to gun him down in
the street. Yeah yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Mean that's what they did with mentally ill.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, because I remember they're like right, they're like because
then the one guy's get him out of here, and
the one goes like crack, a bottle over his head
just because he was like like, I don't know this man. Yeah,
and then the guys shot at him.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
All that plenty more. But first toy, we do like
to ask our guest, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay, this is like I love this question. I was
thinking about it, like what have I been searching? And
I'm gonna be totally honest. I'm just gonna own this. Yeah,
I have been searching for press on nails. Okay, that
is my That is my Google search?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is that? Which are you rocking those right now?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Because I was going to say nail game on point.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Thank you. I appreciate that. So, uh yeah, I'm going
into the nail salon. Is a lot of time, even
more than like the expense. It's just it's like, I
don't I just who has this kind of time? If
you have children or other responsibilities like of aging parent,
you're caring for any of these kinds of things. And
so I was like, I need to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
So I have ninety minutes, so lets some person hold
your hands, plus.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
The commute there and back right right right, yeah right,
And so it's just like, oh my god, Okay, I
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
So this is what I've been I I've seen this
with some of my friends who are like into the
the like the press on vibe and all the time
I'm like, oh, look at you and they're like the
press songs and I'm what, because I still have my
like nineties eighties idea of like len press on nails. Yeah,
that looked like straight up shit, like the stay. You're like,

(11:58):
the fuck is this?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
These are some plastic on your nails. That's what I like. Now,
it's like, can't you can't really tell a lot of time,
cannot tell.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean, I'm sure complimenting other people, right, I'm sure
people who get their manicures done, They're like, I know,
and I'm sure you do. But oh I fooled.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I went in for a pedicure when I had press
on nails on my hands, and manicuris did not know.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
That my work. I didn't remember that. She's like, oh,
why did you.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Get your nails done? I was like, oh no, I didn't.
I mean I didn't myself.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do they make your regular nails like weaker? The press
on nails when you put them on.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
No, No, I mean if you're doing it right, I
mean you could definitely like damage them if you were
just tearing them on.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I told you Jack, you were putting them on and
taking them off from.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, Yeah, it's like ripping off a layer of nails.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
No, no, that's so gross.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
He said it was exfoliating it, and I was like,
dilating your nails, nail, I'm like, your cuticles are a mess, toy.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
What's something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Using air quotes because people can't see me using poor grammar,
I think is actually awesome. I think there's a reason
that we called what we now call grammar police. I
used to call them grammar Nazis back in the day.
And there's a reason we call them Nazis. It's because
you're bad people Like, let people just communicate, it's fine,

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and so I am very pro using any kind of
incorrect grammar. If you are communicating in a way that
like your audience understands you, you have successfully communicated. Congratulations.
You don't get a cookie or a gold star or
more rewards in heaven if you use the Queen's English, like,

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just let people.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Be well, what's like, what's what's one pet peeve? You
see where people are calling out like irregardless, oh stuff
like that. Yeah, not like they're there or there.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I mean, who cares about that? Like on again, if
you know what the person saying, it doesn't actually and
now if you're confused by it. And this is why
I personally I hate the Oxford comma, but I use
it because it is clarifying. So I'll just say that right,
just so that what I'm communicating is clear to people.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I you know, I stopped because Jack doesn't use one.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Hell yeah, don't use it.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I use a New York Style guide. You don't. You
don't use You don't use the Oxford comma, do you, Jack?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, yeah, because I'm not I'm not joking. Early on
in the show, when we would be writing together, I
would have like an Oxford comma. And I remember you
saying some ship about the Oxford comma, and really, I
guess I don't need that ship asshole. No, it wasn't
even like an asshole page. I was just talking. I
think I noticed. I was like, oh, you know, fuck
with an Oxford comma and You're like, nah, not really,
I don't never know, and I was like yeah, and

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then I like it was sort of like one of
those things. I'm like, damn am my Jinko jeans dorky.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Now yeah, the classic peer pressure on the Oxford common
Oxford Okay. And then I start using it because you
have noted on my not using it.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And we're just ships in the night. Oh you using
it again?

Speaker 5 (15:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Are you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I agree with this take. I think I think this
is right. I think spelling all that ship. I'm so
bad at spelling now. I've just been writing into programs
the spell check ship for me, for you, yeah, yeah that.
I just have things that my my son asked me
in front of his friend, like at a cub Scout meeting,

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and he was like, how do you spell business? And
I tried to spell it out loud for him and
I was like b U S S I N E
S S and like the other dad was like no, no, no, no, no,
it's not Mississippi, dude, E I S S I S.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yes, that's oh no, you spelled busting. I'm sorry. I
thought that's what you said. Be you west Sai yet.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, anything that I didn't spell correctly. Once where processors
came along in you know, middle school. I still do well. Yeah,
and I'm alright with that, and I'm alright with it.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's how language innovates, h how we get cool things
like uh like slop being our new word of the year.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Do you remember how they used to do you remember
how they every at the end of every year, like
a bunch of all the online publications would be like
here's the slang words were canceling from this year.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And it was.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
All like it was all just like any word a
black person had said in the last twelve months. They're
like never again, never again.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well it lasted, but we're done here, all right.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It was like a yearly thing online if you're online
in like the mid aughts, that was like every single December,
like here's the words we're canceling.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
You can't. You're not allowed to use sligh. It was
just like someone at some point was like, you guys,
this is racist as fuck. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Like you're you're just there. The person gets to delete words.
Really stop stop talking like that. You know what we're doing.
We're not gonna drink hennessy at the club anymore, Like,
what the fuck is that? Like, pull your pants up
and we're not gonna wear sneakers everywhere. I thought you
were talking about words. Now this is very just for

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everyone or bust or golf polos. That's the most casual
thing I can bear to see as a golf polo.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
We were all dressed in business casual back then. Anyway,
I don't know what the fuck we were doing.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Because it was all the racist doorshit. That was like,
no hats, no baggy jeans, no moodies, dude, that was
that was That's what I was the reason why we
had to pull up looking like a job interview. Christ
I had to remember buying remember buying leather shoes so
I could go to the fucking club. It was so stupid,
and that was one of the reality. That's like, I

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I was off that ship so quick. I was just
it was like a waste of money. And also I
mean I did have fun when I when I when
I went, but no, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
So are people saying grammar police now instead of grammar Nazis,
Like now that there's real Nazis.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I've been saying grammar police. Yeah, I mean that's what
I've been saying. But maybe maybe I'm just only in
the woke corners of the Internet and other people are
still saying grammar nazi.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I don't know. Yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It does feel a little weird to use nazi lately
now that we have revival.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it does. What is what some of
these things overrated?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, Miles, you have to get with me on this one,
but I'm going the Bible. The Bible is overrated.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
The Bible so over it.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
So well written.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I know they didn't have any editors. They didn't use
any punctuation. It really just one really well one author,
one editor, right, that's how it goes. No, but God
could have used an editor. I think that would have
been good for him. You know, it's like his first
writing project. You really need someone to step up.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
My god, Oh my god, I can't handle this tory.
Please stop, this is You're stressing me out. I've never
done this to a guest, but I rebuke you in
the name of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh my God. I thinking about it, and I was like,
this isn't It's totally not to be like anti anybody's
religion because obviously, like Christians use it a lot now,
but they stole it from Jewish people, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, that's five books, just the first five, you know, then.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
We're thirty nine. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
To say, yeah, yeah, just limited to the Pentaitoo because
that's what we're told, right, Yes.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Is just as someone who has read through the Bible
cover to cover about twelve times in my life, Jack,
as you were saying when we started the show, I'm
just really over it. Yeah, and I think it's really boring.
There's a couple of good there's a couple of good parts,
there's a couple of highlights. Most yeah, well most of
that shit could have been cut.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I always call it the Book
of ghost Stories. You know, it's like kind of like
I don't know, there's still these like ghost stories together
and say these are the rules too. But I get it.
I get it. That's one of those things too. Like
it makes me sad because like my my grandparents were
like like good Christian people, you know what I mean,
Like they were always trying to be in service and yeah,

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always looking out for other people and doing their best
to limit their sort of discriminatory thinking. In certain times
and most of the time could come around to shit.
But yeah, like I think there's just such an uptick.
And like the people who don't remind me of some
of like they sort of like capital see Christians I
grew up around as a young person, like now, because

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now I see it's like a texture. Like I know
younger people who are like, yeah, we go to church now,
and I'm like, what, but you gotta have a piece
of shit, like what do you do there? And it
sounds like you know about the other book right right? Yeah, yeah,
but it's like I think it's like there's also I've
noticed and this is just very limited to a few
people I know that it feels like like a like
a laundering of your consciousness to be like, well, I

(21:28):
go to church. Also that kind of helps. It's like weird,
I don't see them sort of acting out what I
believe a sermon would kind of have you feeling the
next day.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
But yeah, it's like it's just balancing the scorecard for them.
They're like I'm going to fuck around and then I'll
go to church in it even.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but hey, look do you do you
also the other Bible? Where were there other books that
we know of. They were written before the Bible, Like
what are the books?

Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
The Bible was the first book?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Was first book. I'm glad you got a good education.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
They invented writing and you know, all the technology necessary
to nosh like the first the story of gogamesh is
older than the Bible.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, yeah, it was like the Odyssey, older than the Bible.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Probably older than parts of the Bible.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
It's like middle in the middle.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Of the Bible. But you're still I mean, yeah, I
guess so because it was.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Written over like two thousand years or something.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah. Yeah, it was a long span of.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Time, like fifteen hundred years.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
But more of like one of those anthologies of literature
a certain period.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Now that's what I call Bible. That's what they should
have called it, King James, the sixth Edition. Now, that's
what I call the official Word of God. Yeah, that's
essentially what the Bible is.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, it is. But you know that's not how
I was. I was. I was raised with like biblical literalism, right,
So it's like every word of scripture is scientifically and
historically accurate, right right, Yes, And that's not right at all.
And it's like it. Actually, the Bible is more interesting

(23:16):
if you engage with it in a scientific way, if
you're looking at it through a lens of like, oh yeah,
this is just like people were writing about their experiences
and what was going on geopolitically and also trying to
like convey narratives to future generations. And it's way more
interesting like that than it is for like, Oh, I'm
just gonna be like in the beginning, God created the
heavens and the earth, and it took him seven days

(23:37):
and then he peaced out.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And like wish now we're here.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's a question posed by Steven Spielberg's new movie, you know,
Nuns and Aliens in the same movie.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Now, you know, oh yeah, that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna
beg for forgiveness, say a parent prayer of repent since
and then we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I just want you to be saved, Tory, and we're back,
and oh, I'm so worried about you, Tori, so worried
about you.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Sorry, if you pray hard enough, eventually I'll come around.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
What do you think I was doing that whole break
mm hmmm, on my knees here, okay, beg it.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, you also have to fast, if you remember in Matthew,
I can't do that but earlier. If you're serious about it,
just stop beating.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
That sounds uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
No, no, I'm not for that, man. I'm just gonna
pray for you.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
There's so much of it that's like, okay, but maybe
you should be more uncomfortable. Why don't you kneel for
fifteen minutes? Now? Why don't you stand up now that
you've been kneeling, Now sit on the hardest wooden chairs possible.
Now stand up now, sit now, Neil.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
And they're just trying to keep people awake.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, service, now speak Latin. Now shake hands around, you
shake somebody's hands.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You look like you're too well fed.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Don't eat?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah yeah, the only thing you can eat is what
is the wafer? Yeah, the equivalent of like a food
that is a trick on somebody who's hungry, where it
like melts away and is no longer food.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
In your mouth more hungry?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah yeah, just a neckro wafer is what we should
call that.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Necro wafer.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Damn, damn, I look bro, I'm already out here. You
know what I mean. It's a it's a seventy eight
degrees in December.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, we're in the bad place, I think.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out bels above, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
All right, let's talk about another great writer. We talked
about the one true great writer. But of course the
ve Ramaswami just dropped bar on all of our ass
in the New York Times. Just he's had an interesting year.
Started out this past year in a position of power, yeah,

(26:09):
heading up DOGE Department of Government Efficiency with Elon Musk,
and has ended the year being like.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Oh, this is bad, guys.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, it can't be the racist. I mean, maybe it's
partially the racism, but not not the way the Libs
want you to believe it is.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Sure, he's he's a he's a very recognizable figure when
you look at conservative politics. He's the boy who thought
the racists would accept and protect him. Not this time, surely,
this time, surely not. Okay, he did the whole cycle, acceptance,
high profile tokenism, then racist slaughterhouse. And that's where he's

(26:51):
at in that third stage, I think, because after the
Doe stuff, right, he's running for governor of Ohio, like
that's the state where he was born. But this is
I'm this. This is where I think a lot of
the interactions since he's been running for Ohio governor has
been like oh shit, yeah, this these people fucking only
like white people. And I think that's when you realize, look,

(27:12):
you are the token in a white nationalist political party,
so that means at best, you will never have a
meaningful seat at the table, and at worst, they know
they let you know exactly who they are. And I
don't know if we covered it, but there was this
turning point event that he went to where like people
like these students in Ohio were like just straightforward being like, dude,
you're like a gross like Hindu, right, dude, Like that's

(27:35):
not Christian, that's kind of fucked up. And this was
I think this was sort of the beginnings of him
truly like being confronted with just how dismissive people are
of like especially like how dismissive conservatives are of any
people of color, like in the party, and especially if
they're not Christian, Like if you're if you're gonna be
a person of color, you gotta be Christian or else

(27:55):
they're gonna fail the second test, which is argue Christian.
But here's here's this turning point event.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Jesus Christ is God and there's no other God. He
is part of the Holy Trinity, and any other God
is a demon and it's false. How can you represent
the constituents of Ohio who are sixty four percent Christian
if you are not a part of that faith. If
you are an Indian, a Hindu, coming from a different culture,
different religion than those who founded this country. Those countries

(28:22):
built this country, made this country the beautiful thing that
it is today. What are you conserving?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
You are bringing change.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
I'll be one hundred percent honest with you.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Christianity is the one truth.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Christian voices should be the main voice of America. And
I want to know basically why you seem to be
and I don't mean to be horribly offensive, but why
you seem to be masquerading as a Christian.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You familiar with the Ten Commandments. You call yourself a Hindu,
but you also call your sub Christian. I don't call
myself Christian, call myself a Hindu. I'm not running to
be pastor of Ohio. I'm running to be governor of Ohio,
and I didn't run to be pastor of America. He
goes on this whole run and like, no one is
just like okay, anyway, but bro, you're Hindu, right yeah yeah,
and he's like, but that's not the point. I'm just
trying to like lead people's like, but Christianity, Christ is king, dude,

(29:08):
and you worship demons. So sorry, you don't have my vote,
even though you're down with Turning Point USA, which I
think you thought that would give you shelter through this,
but no. So yeah. Now he's pended op ed in
the far right New York Times and he's he's still
this the way this is written, he's still not getting it.
Like closing up to these people, to your oppressors, is foolishness.

(29:32):
It does not There's there's nothing liberating about aligning yourself
with your oppressors. Right.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
And the first kid who was like, dude, you're not
Christian and like who you worship is a demon? Look
like you like twelve, He's like a pink faced child,
like you should actually be burning in hell right now, dude,
instead of sitting in front of me at TPUSA talking
in my face.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
It was like a child, and he's just sitting there.
You can like see the life draining from the vex size.
Is this is happening?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like he kind of gets like kind of like, oh,
fuck right, there's nothing because you know, like there's fucking
nothing you can say unless you're like I renounce the
Hindu religion and I'm now ready to be baptized, and
even then and even then it won't be enough because
you are not white. Vivec. And here's this is what
he wrote in This is how his op ed opens.

(30:26):
There are two competing visions now emerging on the American right,
and they are incompatible. One vision of American identity is
based on lineage, blood, and soil. Inherited attributes matter most.
The purest form of an American is a so called
heritage American, one whose ancestry traces back to the founding
of the United States or earlier. This view is now
popularized by the Groper Right, a rapidly ascended online movement

(30:46):
that argues for the creation of a white centric identity.
This is a predictable response, one that I anticipated in
my twenty twenty two book Nation of Victims. To anti
white discrimination. Over the last half decade, and it is
no longer just a fringe point. So right there, he's
saying the DEI woke shit, this is this is the
justification for why the Nazis are here now because you

(31:08):
did all this Dei stuff. So even then he can't
he can't. Actually he doesn't know the equation for how
racism works. He's still framing it in that sort of context.
And then he goes on to talk about how all
the time social he said, my social media feeds are
littered with hundreds of slurs and calls to deport me
back to India in parentheses, I was born and raised
in Cincinnati and have never resided outside of the US.

(31:31):
And again the fact they don't but air they don't care.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
This was like he's also like has taken a beat?
Been like what I should have said to the motherfucker
turning point USA. But then he's he's clapping back in
the pages of the New York Times, like where literally,
not not a groper is going to see his argument.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Well, he his his like main plea is to the
establishment of the publican party, saying you need to sort
out the Nazis in the party or else it's this
is a lost cause, and he also goes on to
rightly point out like there's way too much like young
people are facing way too much economic strife to think

(32:15):
like this is going to sustain itself in any way.
And I'm like, okay, you've got a point there. But
then it then he's like, his solution has a bunch
of pro business bullshit. It's it's kind of all over
the place. But yeah, this other thing he says, he
said that they're right there. He is talking about young voters.
Their rising sense of economic insecurity conspires with pent up
psychosocial angst. Depression, and anxiety are more prevalent among members

(32:37):
of Gen Z than in prior American generations. In the
absence of a shared national identity, they're turning to tribalism
and victimhood instead. Raprism on the right zoron Mamdani infused
socialism on the left, and his plea equally bad options
as far as I can tell them, the people who
are just like you're essentially not human to me, go

(32:58):
back to India, a place that you never lived.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
So that's one option, and the other one is like
a thing that people seem to like that would would
help people in need.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Free daycare is the same as you know forcibly expelling
people from your country. Everyone knows this.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I just love to like, bro, I want a white
ethno state, but everything's expensive as hell. Yeah, that's my
ideal world exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So does he have good?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I have?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Like I'm always curious when when someone will get to
the economic populist message that like it seems like is
there for anyone to pay it? Like even Tucker Carlson
has even toyed with it. He's like said some things
that are like, oh, do you actually understand that, you know,
economic populism would be popular and helpful to people?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
What is his solution? What's vive? There's a couple of
bone headed when he's like, we need to like cut
the youth of America in on the profits of AI gains.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Oh yeah, what good.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
He's like, give every kid ten thousand dollars to put
into the S and P five hundred, so by the
time they're sixty they might have a million dollars. And
you're like, okay, so giving, so give Wall Street tenth
All right, what else you got? Here's the one that's
a fucking just gem from his brain. Fourth, because he

(34:16):
was he had like four kind of things. Fourth, provide
America the shared national project we badly need. America has
a greater purpose in the world than we have.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Rebuilding infrastructure, kind of creating good schools for people.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Dude, Americans of all strengths long to be reminded of
America's place in the twenty first century through a modern
day equivalent of the Apollo Mission. Perhaps it's establishing a
base on the Moon to achieve nuclear fusion in a
way that powers the creation of artificial intelligence without negative
externalities and constraints on Earth. Perhaps it's something else or

(34:54):
some something similar scale or something I don't know, be
like it could be like a nuclear moon AI moon base,
I don't know, somehow like whatever, but like we need
something big, dude.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I write this. I just I have a question or
two about.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
There aren't a lot of not as many M dashes,
so it does I mean, like the dumb idea like
a moon like because you go, all right, people don't
like nuclear energy like on Earth, right, So then what
if we just export that work, like to outsource it
to the Moon and then trans What are you doing exactly,

(35:33):
how's we're transmitting information from the Moon because the data
processing centers are on the moon, and what.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
The burns are their money? Yeah, the worms are.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like does he think like, I don't. I mean, I
certainly don't. I don't know anything about communicating with the Moon,
but I'd imagine it's not cheap and.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
It takes longer than a sad commute the commune.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'll say, yeah, the lights of enter of data when
your searches have to go all the way to the
Moon and come back, probably a little bit of a
lag there, yeah, would be my guess.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
But we're outsourcing all the negative externalities and constraints on
Earth to the Moon.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, So by sending this new generation, I think this
is just him being like, could we send those kids
who are fucking mean to me to the Moon?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
We'll tell them they like working on AI or something there.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Moon jobs. That's what you have for gen z is
jobs on the moon.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Go find Vivek has like a turn and this was
his White House Correspondence dinner, and he's like, now I'm
against all white people. Probably not, he's gonna try harder.
Probably he would probably sooner convert to Christianity on like
fucking on a TikTok live stream for Turning Point USA
than have any kind of like actual applicable, tangible idea

(36:53):
that could be used.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Do you think that he thought he was gonna be
like millennial Dnachtasuza sort of situation, because like is he's
also now well he's always in trouble but no.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
But I mean like all the like all the racists
are coming for him too, and he's like, dude, but
I'm because again it's a lot of these like Groypers and.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Other like and they're like, you can't be here.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It's all al is from die Hard being like Hans
Bubby Bubby, Yeah exactly. We just we just met and
I was trying to get you to like me. Now
you're gonna kill me or like right. It does just
the idea of this idea of giving kids money to
invest in the stock market does increasingly, like I do,

(37:41):
like what there was that Dell thing where like everybody
was going to get a fund that I think they're
actually doing. But like they I think there's some knowledge
among the like uber wealthy that like they need to
incentivize people to start giving a funk about the stock
market the way that like the mainstream media asks them to, so, like,

(38:02):
I do feel like they're going to start doing that,
Like that that would be the reasonable move on behalf
of all of the entire power structure of this country,
both Republicans and Democrats who still want us to be
like the economy, well, that's Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
What's like when the road forks off to like do
you want to do something that creates actual like equitable
change or you want to line your pockets? And you
keep picking the line your pockets at every fork. It
goes so far out there that you end up being like,
what if we make babies give Wall Street money right
right that the taxpayers pay for? Like, wow, okay, because

(38:43):
I'm certainly not about to give up my multi family
unit complex. That's not happening. So maybe the babies need
to pay need to buy some stock. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Elsewhere in Washington, Donald Trump seems to be doing the
George W.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Bush.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
He seems to be on a one way track to
a mission. We have a mission accomplished banner in our future.
They're gonna have to take the White House's print shop
off of the job of labeling all the doors so
he knows where he is. That Oval office sign.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
They finally got the real one installed.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And live laugh love. Oh they've got the real one.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, and it's the text is way bigger too. Yeah.
He was like, now make it bigger, bigger, the biggest
you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
What people need to know? People need to know. I
don't think like that's not important that as long as
you know where it is. People need to know which
one's the oval office and gives people need to stop
walking into closets and getting lost in them.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, these people, there are a lot of people out
there I'm hearing that don't know where they are when
they walk through the White House. So I feel like
for those people, for those people, we should put up
bigger signs. Maybe some arrows on the carpet so I
can walk in the right direction. Maybe something in the
style of BDX Airport. I really like the look of
the carpet.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
There isn't that a security risk that you're going around
labeling every entrance.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
To one is where the president shows office, President's bedroom,
President here.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I don't think that's I don't think that's smart to
have a big old Etsy sign outside of every door,
just labeling.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
But he just on an executive order declaring fentanyl a
weapon of mass destruction. The order literally stated that illicit
fentanyl is closer to a chemical weapon than an narcotic,
which is unprecedented for a narcotic, and it signals his
intent to treat fentanyl not just as a public health crisis,
but as a national security threat.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, as if they're nuclear arms.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, so that he can go to war with Venezuela,
even though Venezuela is not that involved in the fentanyl trade.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
No, but again, you're after the oil, and you know
you've got your your The woman who won the Nobel
Peace Prize is out there being like Trump, come on, bye, baby,
come on in, come get this oil. And also please
get me the fuck out of here when shit goes down.
I do not want to be here, okay, please please?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
May like I can send you to a Salvador right right?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Oh my god, which country do you want to be
pre deported too?

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Because you're not coming here, babe, I'll tell you that.
This is just yeah, it's because right now there's a
full on oil tanker blockade now outside like with with
Venezuelan and oil tankers, it's like every single thing, the
build up of military hardware the fucking illegal boat murders.
All of this is just like this just apparently there
there's reporting about how like his whole tactic with that,

(41:41):
he's like he's hoping that with enough intimidation, Moduro just
like steps down and that he doesn't have to do anything,
because that is Trump. Also, he likes he's like always
like cocking his fist back, and he's like, oh, you know,
and he's hoping that will work.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Honey, cocked my fist back. Starting to hurt. Yeah, but yeah,
to make it even more obvious that this isn't about
fatal overdoses or we're down in twenty twenty four by
twenty seven percent. The reason for this drop is someone
like that. There are competing theories about it, but the
most likely reason is because of public health policies, the

(42:21):
distribution of an alexom, the life saving medication that can
reverse an overdose, which is interesting because you'd think somebody
who was so worried about this that he would call
fentanyl the weapon of mass destruction would be you know, behind,
you know, getting even more right an alexo and distributed.
In fact, he proposed canceling one hundred and forty million

(42:44):
dollars in grants to fund fentyl overdose response efforts, and
then only two weeks ago has like come through and
been like, actually, I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it, babe,
take it back.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's so funny because I've all like, he has no
wins to talk about. He could some in some way
contort his brain and be like, and I brought fendyl
overdoses down. If you remember when I got into office,
they were out of get drolled and they down and
they go, you doing that and this, and I get
the overdose Like but now it's just again it's like

(43:16):
a very just transparent justification for another illegal military incursion,
whatever the fuck this is gonna be. And it's just like,
it's just so funny that we we saw this playbook
be ran a huge majority of like voters saw this
playbook be ran. Already that doing it again, and he
think's like, maybe you're gonna be slick this time. Like

(43:38):
at least they were talking about a thing that could
make a nuclear weapon and you're out here being like
this powder that you see police officers pretend to knock
them out. That's a I don't okay, Sure, yeah, whatever
whatever you to use weapons of mass destruction, like to
reboot that one.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's like the Tron franchise where they keep trying to
re boot a thing that people didn't like. That's a bad. No,
that's bad. You shouldn't you shouldn't be pooling. Shouldn't be
copying off of one of the worst ones. That's one
of the worst ones we've ever done, was justifying war
with weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Jeez. So uh well, we'll see, we'll see where this goes.
But it feels like the appetite obviously between the economy
and the Epstein files, the very like dumb thinking that
you've seen from this administration is like just sort of
that like old adage of like, hey man, a war,
you can kind of get a lot of people on board,

(44:39):
you know, you never know. But it's like that don't
really work. I don't think that's gonna work. Bro, I
don't know if that's gonna work, especially when you like.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
You haven't created any pretext whatsoever. Yeah, at least they
had Saddam as the bad guy the first time around. Yeah,
they're like the guy from the last one.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, the guy for the last one. He brought that back.
This is like rocket dude. He's back, dude, and he's
way he's way more bad dude.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
He's bad.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yea, we have to yellow cake. He has yellow cake, dude.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
So I don't understand why he doesn't just like send
the CIA in, honest, sincerely, I don't understand like why
he does.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
He has they've already he's already like admitted that really, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I missed that. Okay, I'm behind.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
But it's also like the point is not to actually
get the thing done. The point is to do the
war and get a bunch of bang bangs going off
so he can then narrate the bomb how bombs work
to a captive audience.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
In October, he like proclaimed he's like, I am announcing
that I am authorizing this Central Intelligence Agency to conduct
covert operations inside. But he said that he's I thought.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
To kill Maduro though, Like, but you're right. He wants
he he needs, he needs an enemy.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
And he has to keep being like I'm sending these
people in. I'm seeing it, guys, it's bad. I got
to send in the re regime change freaks, dude.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Sending in the expendables and being told those aren't real.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Sorry, I mean I didn't mean that. The Incredibles.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Can we fire up school? The America's again, Like, what
do we got here? What's on the table?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
It is, it's just it's just rebranded it. Yeah, basically
it's it's called it's called wine Sack. Now it's called
the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security and Cooperation.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Wine Sack sounds tasty.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Like wine sack. Yeah, and those are fun. Oh a boat,
a bag.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Like a catskin like they did in the Whimsical Wine Times.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Of course, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. And the Grinch. We were talking about
the Grinch on our sand episode and how like it

(47:00):
it feels like we need the reason the Grinch has
become like so popular, like more and more popular. They
keep making movies about the Grinch, and they like movies
that are objectively kind of bad, like the Jim Carrey one.
Everybody who saw it at the time was like, this
is a fucking nightmare, man, Yeah, what the fuck is this?

(47:21):
But like now you know, they just keep making them,
like your Mileage Mayberry Younger younger people who saw that
when they were kids think it's really good. But I
think I think the reason we need it is because
America has basically edited the bad guy out of the
Santa mythos, Like our Christmas myth no longer has a

(47:43):
bad cop, whereas like all the origins of Santa Claus have,
like the French have someone called Father Flock like comes
comes along and like whips and kidnaps children who are bad.
There's Crampus who just like swallows them whole. But I
don't know, Toy, do you find this? Like my kids

(48:05):
have asked about the punishment for being on the naughty list,
like from day one. They're just like, this can't be it.
It can't just be like Cole or whatever, like it
has to there has to be something like it can
just be a good guy. Who's the bad guy?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
My friend Michael, my friend Michael at school says, someone
comes over and beats the shit out of you.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Like the yeah, Crampis is like huge with the second
graders this year at my kid's school, They're like all
all they want to know is like what the details
of crampis. My seven year old was like asking about
like the Alps in relation to France. I was like,
what why are you asking geography questions. Yeah, and he's like, well,
because so Crampis attacks from the Alps. And if I'm

(48:51):
just wondering, like how he gets into France.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
If he send war games like the World War Two,
like the little wood circles on the map and push
it across like billiards, that's amazing. Wait, so do your
kids live in the perpetual fear of an omniscient god
who knows if they've been out of your nice No.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
They think that's so weird. Like they'll come to me
and they'll be like, mom, evangelicals, what are they on
right now? I don't know, but you know I was.
I wasn't evangelical when when my kids were born, and
so they do. I wasn't going to do Santa at
all because I was like, well, I don't want to
lie to my kids. But then my kids just like

(49:28):
picked it up on their own, and I was like, Okay,
I'm not going to be a dick. I guess I'll
just go with this. But we never got into the
like lump of cold bad guys yet getting whipped Crampis thing.
My youngest would probably love Crampis because.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
My dad, yes, Jack would be so into that shit.
You got to take a page out of my dad's
book and just shit on that childish idea so they
can wake up be like that's actually based on like
a form of to try to control people, because regardless,
you will get gifts because it's a holiday, right, And
then they go back and then be like, you know
what my dad told me, Michael, And then they're crying

(50:04):
and shit because it's like there is no fucking Santos.
So sorry about that, but I just want to say this.
I don't know if you saw this article that came
out I think is last week because you're talking about
the Jim Carrey Grinch and we were just talking about
the CIA. But did you know that he was going
to quit the Grinch because he went full Frank Havoc
the first day in the makeup chair and he said,
I have way too much shit on and he was

(50:25):
having a panic attack, and he told Ron Howard and
Brian Grazer He's like, bro, I can't do this. I quit.
I will give you all the money back plus interest.
I just cannot do the thing with the makeup. Brian
Grazer put got him in touch with fucking a guy
who trained CIA officers on how to withstand torture. Wow,

(50:46):
to get Jim Carrey through the makeup chair to be
the Grinch every day, He's like, nah, man, I got
a guy he works with the CIA for how to
torture so you can play the Grinch. That's amazing. Yeah Jesus,
It's like, so I didn't have no idea. I just
saw it headline.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I do remember like the stories being like Jim Carrey
being like this is literal hell, Like yeah, yeah, I
never want to do a movie like this ever again. Anyways,
I think the Grinch is our stand in for like,
you know, the gods of consumerism in America were like, no, no, no, no,
no no, no. Crampis just guy who brings presents. Let's uh,

(51:25):
let's get rid of the friction of the present buying thing.
And then you know, doctor Seuss creates the Grinch, and
then people want there to be like a more complicated mythology,
and so they make the Grinch big, and now it's
just like everybody uses the Grinch constantly all over the place,

(51:45):
without any relation to like what the origin of the
like the original meaning. For instance, the White House tweeted
out a photoshop of the Grinch carrying handcuffs with the
title how the illegal stole Healthcare? And then like a
picture of somebody being arrested by ice, like photoshopped into
the lower corner, which beyond the like overt fascism, Like

(52:10):
nothing about that image makes sense, Like if the illegal
are the illegals the Grinches, then why is the Grinch
carrying the handcuffs?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
And like we got them?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
If the Grinch is Ice, does that mean that they're
all going to have to have a change of heart
come Christmas? Because that would be I'd be all right.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
With that, because everyone just uses Grinch as shorthand for
a bad Christmas bad guy, right rather.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Exactly that's just what that's all people want, this Christmas
bad guy is.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
But yeah, sure it's I'm sure that's going to really
help people once the ACA subsidies completely go away, be like, yeah,
thank god, I saw that grinch that stole the health
It was definitely them. It's definitely them, although most people
are pretty low information, so it's that who knows. Then
maybe they'll see that and like, you know what I saw,

(52:59):
It was the grin that stole health or something. Just
don't have no reading comprehension. They just see the Grinch
and said stole something like, Dude, the Grinch stole healthcare.
I fucking had a feeling about that guy, because his
heart's too small.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Linda McMahon, head of the Department of Education, posted a
video where she recited a Grinch style poem about fraudsters
profiting off of student aid while wearing a jacket that
would make Richard Simmons want to throw up. It's like
this dazzled red jacket with mega which make education great again?

(53:33):
Filmed in just a soulless boardroom, but with like a
bunch of balloons and shit behind.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
This is fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Dude, what the fuck people always trying to do?

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Doctor a green little thief who tiptoed through Whovill. Oh
my god, we deserve to go to hell, every single
one of us.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
What the he's doing? Like a little act him out.
But I just want to read from their pros, from
their poetry. They slithered through paperwork, schemed with delight, like
adding fake students deep into the night. They dreamed of
a sack stuff to the brim with billions of dollars.
Prospects were grim, but we weren't sleeping, not even a wink.

(54:18):
We checked the numbers, the forms blank. We spotted the fakes,
the tricks, the slight little plots, and followed the trail
to connect all the dots, following the famous Doctor Seuss
rule of if some of the words in the paragraph
rhyme with each other, you're good.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Just get the vibe, Just get the vibe. Make make
a couple of them rhyme. I'm like, Okay, this is
just so funny because you have the at this point,
the surreal solutions are to really do something drastic to
change these systems so they work for people. But now,
because you can't go that way, you just have to

(54:56):
go further into the absolute absurdity of it. I'm like,
what if we did a poem trying to blame immigrants, right,
what the fuck? And all were this like dazzled jacket
and they'll be balloons? Then I think I think we
might get through.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, there's also Walmart has been like, we're Walmart has
signed a deal. There's a collabo between Walmart and the Grinch,
and the Grinch is now played by Walton Goggins for
some reason, and because of Walmart, what's that because of Walmart.
I think that like when he first did that deal,
it was they were kind of like leaning on the

(55:34):
Walt pun or Walt interesting not at all, not interesting
at all, actually made my brain.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. Yeah for a while.
Great choice Walton is to be the face of Walmart.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
The it's just every one of the things is like
there was another one back in twenty twenty three where
the Grinch like steals everybody's Walmart goods and then like
he likes the stuff so much that it makes him
have like a change of heart. He's like, man, these
this ship is so good, Like consumerism is actually what

(56:10):
is making my heart growth three sizes, which seems kind
of counter to the point.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It's it's it's this heart growth medicine I stole actually
and ended up being that helped me a lot.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
From documented people. We're stashing it away in there.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Like so much of that ship falls apart, like the
second you really just really like reality tests your clean
when you're like, okay, so houses are unaffordable because immigrants
and why so they're buying the houses. They have that
much money where they get the money, but they're buying

(56:48):
the but everyone in my neighborhood is like, not an way,
but how do I It's it's just trusting. It's it's
the immigrants, Okay, even though they're not buying it, they
make it more expensive by just like here, dude, there
is facts.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Anyways, the Grinch is that like there's happy meals for
adults with the Grinch green. I think they're called Grinch Meals.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, awesome, woweah, I think it's Yeah, it's the Grinch
fucking sucks now. I mean like not that like the
actual Grinch story sucks, but yeah, this over use of
it because it has like just zero meaning now and
if it's just shorthand for like bad Grench thing, because
I think the other part of it is the people
that I know who really like the Grinch are people
who like like Christmas but also kind of like think

(57:33):
it's like they kind of have a torture relationship with
like wanting to like Christmas but also being like irritated
by people that do. And they're like I kind of
fuck with the Grinch to be honest, like in the end,
I'll come around, but like most of the time, I'm like, no,
what the fuck is all this shit?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Damn the Grinch, long lived crampits.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
That's ok.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I think I think we need a new a new
bad guy telling you never seen a bad guy like this.
You don't have to wear as much makeup well to
get into the role.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
As a Christian. The bad guy for me is Santa Mmmm.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Those letters around like the church lady told you.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Yeah, exactly exactly, and he drinks Monster Energy. I don't
know if you remember that video the market the Beast.
You know what was it?

Speaker 3 (58:14):
It was Hebrew for six six something.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, she turned the upside down. She was like, yo,
what was I there was this Christian? Well we talked
about it, dude, like years ago, this woman who thought
like the Monster Energy drink was satanic, And it was
like it was the logo, oh here here, here, right here.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
Look at your ELM closely. There's a right here in
the letter M. It's never connected. So you go in
to Hebrew. So also the number six short top long tail,
short top long tail, you could have here in Hebrew
sixty sixty.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Six on the thank you.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
The interest is the word monster.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
What do you in the there's a cross?

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Okay, what has.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
Christ got to do with an energy drink? Let alone
the name Mons, so maybe this is a Christian company.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Then uh huh.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
At the bottom of.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
The can, do you know what that stands for?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
That's the f wort.

Speaker 7 (59:22):
Can on the side of the cans.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Oh, you got them, you got them dead to rights
board for that, she kind of convinced me she was spitting.
She was kind of spitting. Man. Okay, okay, that does
look like six sixty six, and it's it's the closest
I think anyone has gotten. But then but then you
got to find all this Oh there's stuff like so,
why would would there be a cross on the can?

(59:50):
What does this have to do?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
It's like, well, I thought maybe it was a Christian
power drink. Christian energy drink.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Christian power drink. That's so funny, the idea of a
Christian power drink. That's a grift for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Anyways, I feel like the Grinch would would drink it
monster energy. Right, it's great, green, green coated.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Maybe maybe so kind of the right vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
He also seems like he's a sensitive stomach. With that
little heart, bro he probably has to be careful because
if that just starts beating too fast, he'll be like, nah, bro,
I start getting palpitations. Mm hmmm, I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
If your heart grows three sizes in a single morning,
you need to see a cardiologist. Brother, Tory is such
a pleasure having you as always on the daily like guist,
where could people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I am mostly on Blue Sky lately. Honestly, I can't
have low tolerance for Twitter these days. Yeah, it's just
it's rough over there. So still Tory Glass Tory Glass
dot Skuyde on social sometimes on Instagram. If you want
to follow my personal Instagram, it's at toy Glass as well.

(01:01:03):
Pretty basic.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Is there a workingmedia you've been enjoying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Yeah, I'm so sorry. I don't have the attribution because
of how I crop this, but uh, I think that
it's I think it was from Blue skyes is. Look,
all I'm saying is a three weirdo strangers showed up
to see my baby caring a bunch of spices and
going on and on and on about how tender and
mild he looks. We'd have a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, so tender, so mild.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
That's from John at this one over here. Toppy's got
on social Hell yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, miles Where can people find you? Is there a
workimedia you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
You imagine you're standing over that mange. You go tender
and mild. That's how I like my ribs. And they're like,
what the fuck, bro? Got the spices and shit? You're like,
let me put some cumin on this. They're like the
frankly sense. Yeah, find me everywhere at miles of Gray.
Uh find me talking about football on Ain't It Footy?

(01:02:05):
The new podcast I do with Jamel Johnson and Chris
Martin talking about the Premier League and other goings on
in soccer while having just a just a good time
having a laugh and trust me a ton of bad
English accents. Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Well I authentic, they have real British accents. Something doesn't,
doesn't Chris, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Chris is. But then I'll but then I'll be saying
ship to him to try and be like that. That's okay,
It's okay. You just think not it sucks, bro, you
should be so. Yeah. A piece of social media I like,
uh is from at attacker Man dot Bescot dot social

(01:02:43):
It says my four year old calmly while coloring a
picture of the Grinch if baby grinches die, we can't
eat them. They're clean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm telling you, the kids are obsessed with a Christmas bag. Guy,
it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Die.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
We can eat them if they're cleaned. That's okay, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
and on Blue Sky at Jack ob the number one,
on Instagram at Jack Underscore. Oh underscore Brian. I tried
to make it three different ones, so it's extra hard
to remember. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
We're also on Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at

(01:03:25):
the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the
description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and
they're at the bottom, you will find the footnote no,
which is where we link off to the information that
we talked about in today's episode. We also link off
to a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,
is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Look, it's more jazzy vibes. You know, we're getting into it,
We're getting cozy. Hopefully you have some time off and
you can just just just take a load off and
for that it's more Oscar Peterson. Actually, I just love
listening to Oscar Peterson. Just jazz this time just hits different.
So this is actually the track Wandering by Oscar Peterson

(01:04:01):
from that album Motions.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
And jazzon Out, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Oh I'm jazzing out, Baby, I'm jazzing out. And then
watch by the probably the beginning of the year, I'll
be playing like drum and based rollers or something. We'll
see all right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
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We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending,
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Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Co produced by Bee Wang.

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