Top 10 of 2025: #10 AI Coming For TDZ? VP Tea Spill 09.12.25

We are counting down the top 10 episodes of 2024, as voted by our listeners. At #10, we have AI Coming For TDZ? VP Tea Spill 09.12.25

In episode 1930, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Finding My Audience, Allen Strickland Williams, to discuss… Spot The Difference Between The Right’s Response To Charlie Kirk vs Melissa Hortman, It’s Been A Privilege And An Honor Podcasting With You... Now The AI Wave Will Consume Us, Kamala Harris Dunks On White House In New Memoir (Which Readers Will Likely Never Finish and more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, zich Gang, and welcome to the end of the year.
During these two weeks surrounding Christmas and the New Year,
we take some time off. During the mornings, we'll run
some new holiday and end of the year content that
you can listen to while we're taking a break. This year,
we've got our review of the year of movies, predictions

(00:20):
for the coming year Santa University. We look back at
some holiday classics with Chris Croft, and so much good
stuff dropping in the mornings. In addition to all that
stuff in the afternoons where we would usually drop the
Trends episode, we are rerunning the ten most popular episodes
of this year according to you. You voted with your

(00:41):
dang years and we listened with ours. Actually, we looked
at the data we're spying on you. Honestly, I'm mostly
in this podcasting thing for the rich marketing data it
provides to me about each and every one of you.
At the end of the year, when I look back
to see what made the top ten, and this was

(01:02):
actually my favorite year to look back at. Our top
ten is full of episodes I feel like made it
because of a bunch of different reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
There are some.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Episodes that dropped after huge news events. There are some
first episodes that dropped right after some hilarious news events,
some great new guests, some classic fan favorite guests, and
some new formats we tried out that we're very excited
to see that you guys enjoyed. Before we get into it,
I just want to thank you guys for once again

(01:33):
being such a cool community that's bloomed up around this
podcast we've been doing all these years. You guys repeatedly
make us proud. You're there for us when we go
through some really difficult shit. You show up at shows
of our guests, and we always get great reports from
our guests about our listeners. You are the rare podcast

(01:55):
audience that makes us extremely proud to have you as listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
So far, don't don't fuck this up, you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
All right, Without further ado, here is the tenth most
popular episode of the year. The episode's called AI Coming
for TDZ VPT Spill with Alan Strickland Williams. It dropped
on September twelfth of this year, and it was the
first full episode that we did after a major news story.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Enjoy.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Do you ever have that nightmare of like you switch
bodies with a professional athlete and so like in the
middle of the game and you're like, fuck, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
What to do.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I feel like when that happened, I was killing it. Oh,
in your dreams, pure fantasy.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah. Yeah, it's only when I'm myself that I'm an
abject failure in my dream. Isn't that what the point
of dreams? So I can not be my failure of
a self.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, or just like anxiety fever dreams the other way
to another direction, you could go with your unconscious.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm always fighting this kid who bullied me on this
on hockey team, and my fucking and my arms are
just in sand, dude. Yeah, yeah, that's what I have. Yeah, yeah,
I always like get in fights.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
And then I can't, like I'm floating an inch off
the ground, so I can't like run away, which is
what I would actually do in a fight.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
And and my like arms are like very like feels
like they're underwater.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I like the fight or flight. My fight is that
my arms are completely just restrained from physics or something
and your flight. But you're like, I can't get my
feet on the ground away from this guy.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Hello the Internet and welcome to season four h five,
Episode five.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Of Daily'sai Guys.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
There's a production of iHeart Radios, a podcast we dig
deep to into a Mariage shade consciousness. It's Friday, September twelfth,
twenty twenty five. September twelfth, man, yep, never never remember,
never remember.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
The day after September eleventh, It's National Day of Encouragement.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's also a National hug and high five Day, National
just One Human Family this some all lives matter shit,
National Report Medicare Fraud Day, okay, thanks Republicans, National Video
Games Day okay, and National Chocolate Milkshake Day.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay. I can get a.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Perfect summation of just our country where they're like, here,
you can have video games and chocolate milk, assholes.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
But report medicare fraud exactly. We're all watching and.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Also hugging high five somebody and just like let's talk
about unity and like keeping it together.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, unless you're doing medicare fraud because you're probably immigrant
and like, okay, but the how do you have to
do that voice? Does that voice like part of your process?
Kind of I'm going through some stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles Great.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Miles Great, Hey, the Lord of Lancersham. This done with
no gun. You know what I mean? Oh, you know
what I mean. Also, my darim is so smelly. I
guess I shipped my jeans. I messed up my g's jeans.
Makes them good? Ask clean after if I shipped my jees,
messed up my g's jeans. Justin Connor on the discord.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, huh, huh, Justin Connor on the discord, getting in
there after winning our episode yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm sorry, Justin.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Justin was the one who told us about the shooting
in between the first act and the second act, which
is definitely.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
May have caught a vibe shift in that fuckuck.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Anyways, great fucking aka suiter producer Justin got the syllables
right and everything, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by a very funny comedian and writer
who you've seen doing stand up in places like your
TV and Internet. His debut album, ran Through is available

(06:14):
on streaming platforms and vinyl, which gives it a nice
little warm sound. His podcast Finding My Audience is available
wherever you get your favorite podcast. Please welcome back to
the show, the hilarious Alan Strickland.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Will yall, Oh my gosh, so good to be bad guys,
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
How y'all have you wait? I know your their albums
on vinyl.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
So on vinyl. Yeah, check it out. You can find
myself Alix Strickland lams dot com. I think it will
cost you a cool twenty five dollars and you get
to be the coolest person in your building or zip code. Yeah,
with a little bit of vinyl. And if you also
don't have a record player, maybe you got a big
cup and you could use it as a big coaster.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, punch bowl coaster. Maybe salad bowl, salad bowl coaster.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
You don't have to have a record player. We can
get it, and we can get clever with this stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
You can be a frisbee right.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Oh hey, you know what I will. I will plug
the real fast just because you guys have them all
all the time. Chris crofton Yeah, I had him on
the my my last episode of Finding My Audience and
I had a good talk with about his album and
his documentary. And yeah, so if any listeners, you know,
after you listen to this, Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It, fuck it, just stop this. Let's go check out.
We can cut this off. Well, where can people find.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
You, Alan, Alan Williams dot com.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, well, it's great having you on, man. Yeah, everybody, everybody,
you know what you know what to do. Go listen
to Crafton right now. In Allen's podcast, How was he?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
He was great? Yeah, as usual. Yeah, It's it's very.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Difficult to describe Chris Crofton. We I've tried many times.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
It's his experience.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, how do Chris Crafton experience? How do you describe
a Crisp spring warning? You know, that's right, Yeah, it's
Chris crafted.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, Chris Crafton is definitely the closest analogy I can
come up with as a Crisp springing for Crofton. I
was just gonna say, there's a free where I heard it.
But just like the anecdote that comedy albums like took
the world by storm and like that, at a certain point,

(08:30):
like in the sixties or seventies, somebody like had the
idea of, like what if we put stand up comedy
on records? And it was like this big fad too,
Just like people would have listening parties. People just like
come over and sit around and listen to a stand
up album on their record player. And that's like as
jealous as I've been of the past, you know, just

(08:51):
being like, no, that's all you need as an excuse
to have people hang out is just like, hey, I
got a new record, like.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Comedy CDs it in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, like informal hangs like in my friend's basement, you know,
listening to.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Like what the hell happened to me? Yeah, yeah, they're
all gonna laugh at you.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
M That usually a formative experience, but like not nobody
was like, hey, guys, come on this Friday. Yeah, for
I just got the new Richard Pryor.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
You know, they used to call them party records, and
they would especially do it with like like that's how
Red Fox got really really like successful, was exactly. You
would put out these like incredibly and they were like
a lot of them were really really dirty. It was
also stuff that like back in the day you would
have actually gotten like arrested for what's the word decency

(09:42):
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, I forget what movie. I think
it might be, Oh, brother, where art they?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
But there's a scene where like they go to a
family's house and they're just all sitting around listening to
a record and or listening to the radio and just
like staring into the middle distance.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's like crazy for.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Me to think about that like being a thing that
people do, and yet no less crazy than like what
we do now, where we like sit around with each
other and look at our phones.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, our own little listening party.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
All right, Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're
going to get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners
a couple of the things we're talking about. We are
recording this on Thursday, starting around noon, So as of
right now, no assassin has been arrested in the Charlie
Kirk killing. We are going to just take a look

(10:33):
broadly at the difference between how the right has responded
to this versus how they responded to the killing of
Melissa Hortman earlier this year, to what appeared to be
political assassinations. We'll talk about that, We'll talk about how
this is probably going to be one of our last
episodes because the Hollywood Reporter recently had a piece where

(10:56):
they talked to the one of the media executives behind
what's it called Inception AI.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Inception point to AI should learn the name of your
future master that you're leading with to keep your puny
podcast Human Life on the airwaves.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just one quote from the announcement from the CEO. I'm
just gonna exert this one sentence, and this is a
full sentence. It might sound like I'm taking it out
of context. We believe that in the near future, half
of the people on the planet will be AI.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
What the fuck? Wait?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
What?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, half half half of the people will
be AI.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Where are we at right now? With a lot a
billion people on the planet right now? Are AI? Yeah?
We it's around eight point okay, so we're gonna have
sixteen billion people in eight billion in the Yeah. Yeah,
that's a lot of mouths defeat.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh man, So they're so horny for it in the
c suite the c suite has Has the C suite
ever been hornier for anything than they are horny for.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Maybe the dot com? It's like the dot com thing.
I think this is meta.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
The metaverse thing, like that was a real website.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
But I feel like that was just a little bit more. Yeah,
I feel like those were more unevenly distributed, and like
with the dot com boom, it was like these companies
that were like out there. They were like rising up
and like getting a lot of attention. But it wasn't
like the Fortune five hundred. Companies of the early nineties
were all like if you don't have like a maybe

(12:39):
it was I actually don't remember, I was fucking a child.
But like the way that like Apple just like took
a hit, their stock took a hit because they didn't
like incorporate.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
AI and talking about AI idiot. Anyways, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
We'll talk about the new Kamala Harris book book is coming, where.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I think everyone's like, ooh, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Get some tea, and it sounds like there's like some
good shit in there. I don't know, it's.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Kind of just shit that it's like nothing surprising. She's like, yeah,
they all fucking worship Joe Biden and Jill Biden there
and whatever, and you're like, okay, but you know it's
interesting today though, because The Atlantic put out like an
excerpt from the book that everyone's reporting on. Now we're
getting quotes from like anonymous Biden people who are fucking
clapping back. Oh really, I'll read some of those, yeah,

(13:30):
some responses from them.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
This is, by the way, a genre of book that,
according to the people at audiobooks dot com, is like
the least finished type of book, which is like audiobooks
by presidential candidates. People buy them and they do not
finish them. All of that plenty more. But first, Alan,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something

(13:53):
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Okay, so, just recently there's been a bunch of pre
sales for Tame and Paula shows coming up.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh so, and I.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Got kind of screwed, and I've got screwed before. These
are Ticketmaster, of course, and I so my last thing
that I searched was and the first word of it's
very alarming Reddit. I searched Reddit refresh, ticketmaster or wait,
that's the full thing that I searched. Because Reddit, for

(14:27):
all of it's many many many many many many many
many many flaws, it actually is like a place where
you can find stuff out every once.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Human advice too, like.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Someone who with someone who is exactly dealing with or
dealt with exactly what you're talking about, and they get
they get like, it gave me the answer. It told
me exactly how to do it, because a lot of
times you like, I'll like wait and it says, oh, no, refresh,
but then like it doesn't actually put you in the queue.
So even though you were there tim and before, now

(15:01):
you're in the back of the line and blah blah blah.
So it's like, I figure out how to do it,
and it did work. What you're supposed to do is
you get in like fifteen minutes before and just keep refreshing,
even if it's before the sale goes and eventually you'll
get a Q code, and once you have a Q code,
then you're good.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
So were you able to get tickets?

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yes? I did, Yeah, I was able to get I
got one other show in the forum, and uh, it
just so happens that I'm going to be in New
York City at the end of October when they're doing
shows there, and I got a ticket to that.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
One as well. Oh okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
I'm a big I'm a big I guess we want
to talk about personality. I'm a I'm a big cee
cee bands. I like multiple times I didn't get to
see Tom Petty that one show before he died, and
it's like haunting me. Yeah, it's me. I had like
Tom Petty's Florida, like I really and and like it

(15:58):
was the type of thing where it's like I think
I might have turned down two people that asked me
to go to it, and so it's just like that's
really really obviously haunted me. So like I saw Vampire
Weekend eight times last year and and it's really good.
Oh man, so good. I'm gonna see it again, I
think too. But uh but yeah, anyway, so that that's

(16:18):
the all insight.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I do like Reddit because there's even stuff where, like
I remember when I was trying to buy a refrigerator
like a while back there there would you get these
things where people are like, let me tell you, I'm
like an appliance repair person, and like this one brand,
I rarely see warranty complaints on it, Like that's like
the legit fucking information. I'm looking for someone who repairs
it goal but I never have to fix these ones,

(16:41):
right like there it is, thank you, thank you hard
working appliance repair person.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
All Reddit, I it is interesting like that Reddit is
the like all the all Reddit is is like a
shadow version of the regular Internet without sponsored bullshit like
slipped in, so like you know, like what when you're searching,
it's just that's what the Internet used to be. Is

(17:08):
just like a place where the posts are not sponsored
by companies trying to just get your money. So it's
just like what if the Internet wasn't like completely and
irrevocably broken by capitalism. It's like, well, I feel like
and that's why you read it has its flaws, but
you have to tag read it at the end, like
because if you search best refrigerator straight up, yeah exactly exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
What is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb, But for years and
years and years I have been driving around without a
phone holder in my car. Uh huh, And I just
got I just got one. And we're not talking about
these things enough.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Decades, Oh my god, Like literally, I want to say
the last time I had one was probably six ish,
more more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more so.
It really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow,
I I literally have the fun that the other day
driver is like my phone's right.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
There, just right there. It's just.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh my god. So anyway, I think those little pieces
of plastic are pretty underrated.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Prior to that, you were just driving around with it
in front of your face, withuting it up in front
of your face.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
An exact same spot where the holder would be.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, and I had a couple of phones. I have
the Android item all. I had like a real Goldberg machine,
et pro dash cam, all of it. Yeah, but now
I just have the one holder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, always a boxing glove and a uh that's connected
to a wheel somehow.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, like on a plunger. Yeah, and I'm that like
spins for it and kicks something.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Usually I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
And is it a phone holder that connects into the
air conditioning vent?

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yes, but it is also one that has enough space
so that it it's like I can still feel the
air from that vent.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, that's it. Sounds like you got a good one out. Yeah,
I gotta search Reddit.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Do you search readit to figure out what's going to get?

Speaker 5 (19:26):
No, that one, I just took that one. I just
took a stab in the dard because I think what
I think, what what happened. Was the phone feul or something.
I was like, let me just get one of these
fucking things right now.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I think you were doing the search on a broken
phone from the falling.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, phone holder for a car, and then you just
hit the unfeeling. But that's not even a thing anymore,
don't Yeah, do they even have they do they do?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Here? I'm gonna do right now, still holder for car
and guess what, assholes it Google. I'm feeling fucking lucky.
Oh it just fucking feeling. It doesn't even give I
didn't realize what it does. It just sends you to
what sends you to the top results. Oh yeah, that
sent me straight to Amazon.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Amazing, amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
They should I feel like they should be like, I'm
feeling really lucky and like you hit that and you
just like get the thing whatever they want to send you.
They're just like, yeah, you just bought that shit. I'm
gonna put Tame and Paula tickets refreshed. I'm feeling lucky.
There you go, just send me straight to fucking ticketmaster.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
There you go, are good friends at Ticketmaster. What is
something you think is overrated?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
All right? This is going to be really controversial. And
I know that everything's been really calm and hunky dory recently,
but I'm gonna stir the pot the Arc Light. I'm
gonna say that the Arc Light is overrated. I'm tired
of hearing about it. It's over Did you.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Not get our coming back? Did you the email or
we said that you couldn't talk about we just stop
the recording stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
We can't. We can't do.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
This now, Like, what are you trying to get our
show taken off air?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
So funny, it's so funny just because I like, I
love the Arc Light because of the innovation of reserving
your seats, but then once that became like another that
became pretty much the normal. I'm like, the way people
talk about the Arc Light is like their dad went
out for a pack of smokes and never came back.
Like it's just like it's so so too much. And

(21:33):
also it's just like I think it's just it's just
one of those things are absence makes the heart grow
fonder because it's like when you're really in that that
specific part of Hollywood too, it's just like we're we're
yon Days Heydays.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean, we're where where is an arc light anymore?
Oh they're gone, They're gone, They're out of business. Yeah,
this is just Yeah, I feel like, isn't there there's
not even one life somewhere because I know, like the
Sherman Oaks one's gone. Obviously, Hollywood's gone.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Now I think the whole company went out of business
during the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
And it's some weird thing too, us like an American
movie theater chain.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah, like why did they like is it? It's like
is it whoever owns the property? Is it like a
least thing or what?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But yeah, well, now you're gonna get me in trouble
because now this is where I start talking about the plandemic.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah now yeah, why how come we don't have the
Cineramlen Dome anymore? Huh? That's right where the real truths
are being transmitted to us.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's funny because I totally agree that it's like we're
remembering it here, like we're remembering a version of it
at a time when it was like doing some innovative
things that nobody else was doing, and now all those
things have been like co opted by AMC And like
that's that does suck. It sucks that were like, AMC
did it? You can get a fuck off, but it is.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, I just don't get what I like. My thing is,
I'm just like, why didn't Why didn't any like really
rich person just step in and like do like kind
of the same way Quentin Tarantino like yeah it did
with like the vista or whatever. And also it's like
but but but my the and the reason why I
brought up is because just I still hear people talking
about it. I'm still always hearing people talk about it.

(23:17):
So I'm just like, maybe it's maybe it's like true love.
Maybe it's like when we finally all collectively like let
it go, then it.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Will come back.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay. I like that.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I like that theory that like, once you work on yourself.
So this is it's not saying that the arc Light
is not a worthy, you know, subject of our adoration.
It's just that we need to work on ourselves.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, we talked.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
The mirror.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
We're bad.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
So we're in the aftermath. You know, this is coming
out a day and a half after you know, Charlie
Kirk was murdered. We're recording it less than twenty four
hours after Donald Trump is already like waged war on
anybody who is critical of right of any in his ideology.
So yeah, just we just wanted to like compare how

(24:26):
this assassination the whole Like this is something we talked
about on yesterday's trending, but like a really like very horrifying,
Like I don't think like the combination of everybody seeing it,
like the number of places that it was being shown
to people, like including the New York Times, the fact

(24:47):
that it's like a person that I guess he's not
like a household name, but he's like well like people
knew who he was, or at least a lot of
people had seen him. And then just like how fucking
gory and awful it was. It was like a really
traumatic thing. And you know, I think it's a potent
material that the Right is working with, and I think

(25:08):
they know that and are like digging in as much
as possible.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh completely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
But it's not just like the Right. It does feel
like the New York Yankees held a moment of silence
for Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
He was a media guy, Like that's the other thing,
he was just like a media guy.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right, yeah, and like one that had some pretty horrific
white supremacist views. So like the fact that like a
mainstream institution like the New York Yankees is holding a
moment of silence when again, like comparing this to Representative
Melissa Hortman, who was a politician in Minnesota who was assassinated.

(25:54):
She and her husband and their dog were assassinated in
their home by a Trump supporter earlier this year, and
the Yankees did not hold a moment of silence for them.
The Yankees statement that they issued on social media couldn't
be bothered to mention the school shooting that happened in Colorado,
like right at the same time. And yeah, it's just

(26:16):
it is a fallacy, logical fallacy that the right in
the United States really likes to play on, which is
just selection bias and you know, orally showing and like
focusing on crimes and really visceral things that are going
to support their political point of view, and you know,

(26:38):
they just pick and choose which victims of political violence
they recognize.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
One thing real quick that I just sort of was thinking,
is that step with the Yankees thing it's like that
came from the owner, like right like that, like they a.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Major League Baseball thing. Someone at the Yankees like, we
got to do this.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
That's a guy that probably like at some function or whatever,
met Charlie Kirk, and I was like, he's a nice guy,
he's a family man. We have to do this. I
just kind of like because it is weird. It's like,
why would baseball team comment on this in general?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Like what I think it indicates again, and I was
saying this on the trending episode yesterday, is just how
much like the now default sort of perspective people have
is that of a conservative or through conservative.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Media institutionally that is certainly the case. Yeah, that's that's
just where that's the default now. And I think you know,
like even what the Yankees posted it said quote before
tonight's game, we had a moment of silence and more
of Charlie Kirk. Kirk founded the youth activist group Turning
Point USA and become a fixture on college campuses. Charlie Kirk,
a husband and father of two, was thirty one years old.
You're like leaving out all of the details. That's the

(27:51):
way supremacist group. Yeah, and what and exactly like that. Rhetorically,
they're fanning the flames of these of this completely out
of control fucking era we're in, especially with right right
wing extremism and the normalization of like white like white nationalism.
But again, I think that's because that's that's currently the

(28:11):
default of American culture. Culture is to be like, well,
we don't say things like that. We just look past that,
and we're just going to say that this is a
person and that's what it is. And yeah, I think
that's really The thing that was really that struck me
was to see the number of like pieces that were
written that were like leaving out all like just completely

(28:31):
obfuscating like what his legacy is in terms of a
media personality or if you want.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
To, Yeah, that'sially ephemistic, right.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Or left or whatever. I mean, especially after something like
especially and incredibly, I mean I saw the video gruesome,
like very real, very real, very traumatic. There is just
such a strong inclination to live in the fantasy world
and to not deal with the reality of what is
actually going on. So it's like this is a like

(29:02):
opportunity for a lot of people to harken back to
like a time that people are talking about free speech
and stuff like that in this and it's like literally
what a month and a half ago, cops are like
busting heads on college campuses because students deign to say

(29:25):
we shouldn't give money to Israel. Like, you know, it's
just like the totally totally, it's just an opportunity. And
as we're seeing, you know, I'm sure we'll dig into this,
but like I just the thing that really got under
my skin was Nancy Mace just like reacting so and yes,
I understand it's raw, and I'm not denying anyone of
their emotional response to what happened and what they're seeing,

(29:47):
especially if they knew this guy. But they're immediately laying
it at They're literally saying, this is the Democrat's fault. Yeah,
they don't they don't know who it is. I think
they've I think they've used a picture of the personnel
that they have no lead, they have no idea who
it is or why they did it, and they're there.
I'm like, oh, this is what they want. They want

(30:09):
this moment and they want to foment it, and they
want it's probably easier for them if the Americans just
start attacking each other than if they have to do
any crowd control stuff or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, or well, I think this is an excuse to
do the crowd control stuff that they want to do,
which will.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Allow them to not have definite Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, But just to reiterate this comparison that I think
a lot of people are making. A US lawmaker, you know,
a Melissa Hortman, a politician, was assassinated three months ago
flags were not flown at half masted across the country.
Trump has ordered that all flags across the country be

(30:51):
flown at half masted until fourteenth. Yeah, and his social
media response to the Hortman assassen back in June didn't
even mention her name, of course, didn't take any responsibility
with you know, the person who committed that murder, being
a Trump supporter, refused to give Tim Walls a phone

(31:13):
call and skipped her funeral and went golfing with Lindsay Graham. Insteedge,
So it it is just like you know, the most
it's blatantly politicized. Anything he's saying about like political violence
being out of hand is only being observed about one
type of political violence.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I think I'm also just it's again the amount of
attention being paid to this by people who are like
diametrically opposed on the political spectrum.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
To Kirk, it's like very odd to me. I'm like,
I'm like, I don't know, maybe you just give it
the same amount of attention that the Republicans give to
a slain Democratic lawmaker, right Like there is this sort
of like having to prove that they're like there's like
a moral high ground. But I mean, like, you know,
say whatever you need to say. But to again, like

(32:07):
to see people like write these pieces in the New
York Times that were like I had a lot in
common with him, like you did in what way? And
then also be like he was a free speech advocate,
Like can you define free speech advocate? Like is that
to does that mean they fight for everyone's right to
free speech?

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Or it was such a big it was such a
big for part of the abundance agenda, right.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Right, Like what what what is going on? But again,
I think that's what's I think that's what's really surreal
again is to see how the culture is completely reset
and be like, well, this is the default way to
speak about this. Don't mention anything that like try and
absolve this person of everything they've said and every like
horrible thing they've said about non cisheit white people.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Well, and that's also where we see the like, yeah,
journals and political pundits and other people with podcasts aren't
going to take attack because in this moment, like podcaster
is like the ultimate like thing. It's not it's not
the political thing right now. It's like it's the fact

(33:10):
that this could happen to someone that isn't political, isn'tellected,
isn't a public official, but you know, has the ears
of all these many people is a huge platform. It's
just it's it's just a it's a very hard realization
of how muddied everything has become and how obviously there's

(33:35):
somebody that we already knew it, but we're just seeing
it in real time. Just how the institutions are basically worthless.
I mean literally, like the FBI can't catch the guy
because there's this fuck an idiot that's in charge of
it right now, and like yeah, I mean just.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
That that was like live tweeting.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
The thing was like we got someone, Okay, it wasn't him,
we got some line.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
It wasn't like what.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
The fuck man, It's like, why are you playing the
crab rave music? After that, we got up and we
got him. Actually we don't, we don't. I mean, just
another like kind of institutional thing, is that South Park
episode was taken down really in the aftermath. Yeah, it
was taken off of Comedy Central. I think it's still
available on Paramount Plus.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
But what was there when about this?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Charlie Cartman played a Charlie Kirk type character with Charlie
Kirk hare. Oh yeah, I mean it was a thing that, like,
you know, Charlie Kirk said he thought was hilarious. Yeah,
I usually think this is hilarious. But the way that
people on the right responded to that was somebody said

(34:41):
on X they mocked him on TV, then they killed
him in real life, comedy has consequences. A turning point
USA staffer posted on telegram.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
The thing is like they get browbeaten like over this
when this it just obviously you have the intentionally hypocritical
people on the right who are like, right, please tell
me about jokes again and what leads to real life
outcomes and what doesn't. But I think that's what just
kind of surreal too, is you just see all of

(35:12):
this like someone who you hear their words and like
this is actually this is terrifying to hear someone express
these kinds of viewpoints to an audience of millions that
is meant to essentially make people like me or who
look like me like just subhuman and free to just
to to slander the good name of innocent people just

(35:35):
because they're transgender or whatever. I don't know. I mean,
I'm I'm always like wrestling with how America just kind
of like rears its ugly head. But to have like
just kind of like to see it almost feel like
the tone of the media be like you have to
grieve this person right now. Yeah, It's a little crazy.

(35:57):
It's just it feels like I'm like, what the fuck, man,
I'm the ship that he was talking about is absolutely
terrifying to me, and I'm now expected to like feel
a completely different way about a person who says words
that are, for lack of a better word, presenting an
existential threat to people like me.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah, he had he had a family, right, Yeah, And
I get that, and you know, and that's the thing
I one hundred like, especially becoming a parent myself, I
don't wish an untimely death on anyone, especially like what
because I think about too, I think about the position
I'm in and if I left sooner than I would hope,
and thinking of my own children, that's fucking terrible.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
But I think you can that can be true. And
you can also report on the fact that everything this
guy stood for was really like antithetical to like what
a decent America would look like, and this.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Is being used to kind of more deeply ingrain those
values into the mainstream of right.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
No, no, no attempt to. That's one thing too that
I just always go to. It's like, look at what
the president is saying. The president is not saying any
sense of unity or coming together or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Let's get it.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
It's true, let's get them, Let's make it worse. And
it's just like, all right, well, I guess that's America. Yeah, Okay,
two hundred odd years later, three hundred years later, whatever
half the country hates the other half of the country,
all right, I guess I guess the experiment worked.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I mean, yeah, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
the fourth of July be real interesting. Next year they
look back, Wow, what a time it's been.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Senator Mike Lee issued a tribute to American patriot Charlie
Kirk on social media. This is the same person that,
after the Hortman assassination, claimed the killer was a Marxist
and posted a photo of the killer with the caption
nightmare on Waltz Street.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah it's and then yeah, it took
a while for people to be like, what the fuck
are you posting?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Man, He's like, ah, sorry, all right, right, I'll take
it down. I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah, mikely is Utah, right.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, likely is also Utah.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
It's that's the crazy, the crazy. The fact that it
was in Utah is really dies. Yeah, like one of
the most conservative, homogeneous judge that that is very I
didn't have that on my bingo card.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh man, there it is.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
He said it, all right. And that was my main
response to this was it was so random. It was
so random.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
This year is like the most random year. I feel like,
oh my god, this year is so random, so fucking random.
Right now, Oh my god, did you.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Say ice ice rates are crinn and they're like so random,
random random?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
You guys, you know there's a podcast talking like that too, right,
now so random right now, it's probably hosted by all
thirteen year olds, and it's fucking awesome. It does.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
So good, like that food podcast, This thirteen year old
that's so good, dude, Like, I don't know, what do
you think of Pepperoni pizza?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, all right, I think Pepperoni is a little sus.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
But yeah, it feels I mean, they've set this tenor
for a long time, so it just I think in
some ways it's easy to dismiss as like that, that's
just like the right wing, fuck your feelings and sensitivity
around the killing of a democratic politician. But this, you know,
it's they're very specific and like an event like this

(39:36):
and their immediate politicist politicization of it makes it clear
that there is a larger strategy that you know, this
is allowing them to sell this bullshit narrative that the
left is solely responsible for political violence in America as
opposed to like rarely responsible for the political violence in America.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, and it's just iron to coming from Republicans being like,
you know, you should you should really respect this person
and things need to be done in the aftermath of this.
When how many times do little children with children shot
to death and people like, can you pass a fucking
law or something like is that? And again they're just
plugging their ears and just you know, whistling past the

(40:21):
graveyard like nothing's going on. And I think that's just
again like all of these ironies kind of really come
together to sort of like just present itself as like
one big mind fucking an event like this and be like, oh,
and now they're going to use this to make shit
worse for people. Probably.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I just think about the Oklahoma City bombing and like
the fact that that was like a right wing terrorist
and like right never take kills like so many children,
like it blew up like a fucking preschool, and that's
not like when you think about that event, it's not
like and that was when we realized right wing terrorism
was a problem, and like it was just you know,

(40:57):
a detail of that.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Not even I mean, I mean I that was ninety four, right, yeah,
And I just remember I was ten years old and
not that I was like an I watched the news
because I was you know, like on TV, and I
just would watch TV. But I remember like all of
that was flattened into and then this guy Timothy McVeigh
did it lone wolf there pot, yeah, boom and that's it.

(41:20):
And then it wasn't until I was in college it
was like, wait, oh god, this.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Is part of this massive right wing movement, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
All right, let's take a quick break.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll come back and talk about why this is probably
one of our last episodes.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
We'll be right back and we're back. I mean, there's
so many reasons this might be one of our last.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Gentlemen, it's been a privilege and an honor podcasting with
you this evening.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, now get out our violins.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, and just play like shit because I don't know
how to play the violin. That would be amazing if
like one of the people was just like, sorry, I'm
freaking out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Also I'm not very good, dude, know this. The fucking
ship is really listing? Oh man, are we still gonna play?
My hands are so fucking sweaty right now? How are
you guys playing?

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Does? They won't have an ox chord?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, it'd be much easier if I can just play something,
some kind some chamber of music. But yeah, I only
say that and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely, because AI, I mean,
it sounds like they're gearing up to take over the
podcasting world because the Hollywood Reporter recently had a piece
where they spoke with the people behind Inception AI and

(42:46):
they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts. I'll
get to the numbers in a second. And they try
to frame this article like in the beginning, like, god,
are people aren't like networks tired of paying like humans
to talking.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Or like pank celebrity like these crazy deals. I do
get what's the most appointing? What's the most annoying part
of podcasts? Having?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
That's the worst fucking part? Am I right, ladies? This
year is so random. But anyway, The CEO of this
AI company is a former exec from Wondery, another podcast network,
and the Jack alluded to her like Facebook post that
she put it out to like announce this thing. Hey,
this is the full part. I'm thrilled to emerge from

(43:32):
stealth and share the public debut of Inception Point AI,
the company I joined as co founder and CEO this summer.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, just to what an opening sorry merge from still
to emerge from stealth and share this like is such
a great way to open any work of social media.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yeah, I can join as a co founder.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I think it's it's because someone with a fuck ton
of money goes, Hey, we'd love for you to be
the face of this thing, to give this some credibility.
Be co founder, we'll make CEO. Yeah, because also, like
I guess, I guess I haven't heard that phrase emerge
from Stealth before, but O goddamn little little wonky.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Use of that word drilled to take off my ghost
protocol hood and reveal that I'm that I've joined.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
An AI podcast company. Goes on as Jack said, we
believe that in the near future, half of the people
on the planet will be AI. That's when my eyes
rolled into the back of my head and I go,
we're cooked that you if there are people sip in
the AI kool aid, this hard, I mean, fucking yikes.

(44:39):
She goes on to say, we're bringing these people to life,
and we're bringing the next generation content business model, all
powered by AI. In the process, we built what we
believe to be the first AI talent management agency with
an extensive roster of fake ass people we created with algorithms.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
And that's been a thing, that's been a thing already too.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, Yeah, we've we've had these voices, these voice models
being created.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
And things like that. But now they're really trying to
like brand each one and be like and they do
all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is essentially
to flood the zone with shit podcasts. But because their
overhead is solo, they can make a profit on a
laughably small number of listens. This is from the higher
report quote. The company is able to produce each episode
for one dollar or less, depending on length and complexity,

(45:25):
and attach programmatic advertising to it. This generally means that
if about twenty people listen to that episode, the company
made a profit on that episode without factoring in overhead inception.
Point Air has already made more than five thousand shows
across its network and produces more than three thousand episodes
a week.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Wow and yeah, been up for like a couple of years,
which does again beg the question of joining as a
co founder two years in.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It's good negotiating tactic. Really, I'm going to see.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
This being just like like a non starter because I
do think that the thing people look for from podcasts
is humanity. It's like a thing that like they they're
not just necessarily looking for like some quick way to
get voice facts shoveled into their brain. I think a
lot of the time the you could read an article
if you wanted that, or like have an article read

(46:21):
to you.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
But I could also.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
See this kind of ruining things because they're going to
be flooding the zone with so much shit.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
That's yeah, yeah, that's the Amazon thing.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah right, it's just going to be so many bad
podcasts indistinguishable from our bad podcast but completely you know,
flooding everything. There will be like five different podcasts. The
good news is, like, this is not how people like.
People don't find podcasts by being like, all right, I'm
going to go to uh that podcast and search for

(46:56):
a topic that I think I want to know about,
and then you know, people find out about podcasts, and
then because followers, some do.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Apparent according to them, apparently because their whole thing set
up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with the help
of AI based on Google and social media trends, and
then the team may launch five different versions of the
show with different titles to see what performs the best.
The podcasts are often titled after simple SEO search terms,
such as Wales Wales.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah it's I was I went to the One of
our most popular episode is Wales is Whales?

Speaker 5 (47:34):
They got Wales?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, dude, I went to their I went to their
website to just look at what their shows are called.
And it's shipped like this diddy verdict, the British monarchy,
like this one's crazy AI and the climate crisis. Are
you fucking serious You're with AI and thus contributing to

(47:57):
the climate crisis? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Like is that one talking about the assassins.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Bourbon ben Betty Betty, Benny Boop, Chaos, Chuck MANGIONI forever.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
China, communism creating?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
This are these all? Are these episodes of the podcast
the use our series. Tell me a one, I'll click
on it and we can here, we can listen to one.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I mean, I don't want to hear socialism. Oh the
socialism where they take it down.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Okay, let's see. This is uh, this is this is
here what they got. Oh, I'm not signing up you
fucking yeah, you need to pay for it.

Speaker 8 (48:41):
Let's see, which simply means I never forget a vote,
a quote or a constitutional clause. Is no ego, no
pack money, just pure relentless recall. Tonight, we're tackling one
of the most misunderstood, maligned, and frankly butchered concepts in
American political discourse socialism.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
But you here's my question. Though you can like and
maybe it will get better to what you really can't,
but you can tell that that is AI.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, yeah, Well they're also they're trying to they're sort
of like trying to be at quote unquote ethical where
they have the hosts up top say their AI yeah,
and one of the founders is like, look, dude, I'm
not trying to have like create like these models that
people are gonna have like deep relationships with because like
this they see it as a completely different lane than

(49:31):
human hosted podcasts. But like when you look at it,
you're like, you're doing you're you're talking about subjects that
humans currently make podcasts about. So I don't know how
you You're like, well, no, it's not meant to replace
that at all. Like it's just we're just doing the
same thing. They are out of insane scale and maybe
people will fucking listen to it, Like you know, they're

(49:52):
they have the hosts. The names are really fucking dumb,
Like for the food podcast.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I don't know what you're talking about. I think these
names are totally normal.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Okay, what name the host of the food podcast Jack?
All right?

Speaker 1 (50:03):
The food podcast is named uh oh, I actually love her.
I actually follow her on lots of different Claire Delish
and then of course my favorite source for gardening info
my health mm hmm, Nigel thistle Down.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yes, and the fucking like the the AI models are
like it sounds like the same ones you hear on
TikTok basically when people use AI to caption shit.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
But again, I believe it's the nominative determinism.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Oh yeah, Like one of the finance one was like
Penny power or something like that, quite dumb, goofy shit.
But again, I mean I don't know, like they will
it replace it? I don't know, but I think, like
to your point, Alan, like it's bad when you have
someone putting out three thousand episodes a week of indistinguishable bullshit,

(50:55):
because that just makes it harder for anyone who actually
wants to podcast to be to have to like there's
now it's just all noise and now yeah, that's like
that's like a.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Big part of Amazon's things. Like it's not that they
just are undercutting and they sell the product cheaper. It's
that they've also like they've taken away a viable way
for people to make money, like opening a small business
to like sell goods is a bad business idea now
because of Amazon. And so that yeah, that definitely and

(51:28):
and I mean, I will say this, podcasters are truly
some of the sickest people, and they in the in
the sphere of the internet or whatever. So they're still
going they're still gonna like go after it. But I
and it is the type of thing where you do
just think like, well, wait, but what if there are

(51:50):
people that aren't just that discerning and they're like, oh,
I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they
don't really they don't care one way or the other.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Right, they were about to on the socialism one. I
could hear the host leading into it, so pour yourself
a glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that,
and I was just like, oh, that is like there's
a certain type of like medium tier podcast that like
I've accidentally listened to where that's like the human element
is like, so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon.

(52:22):
I've got mine right here, right, and we're gonna dig in,
you know. So maybe, yeah, maybe this is gonna hit
hit with the people who like listen to whatever those
shows are.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
We gotta hit, we gotta hit. I mean, it's funny.
The co founder of it, who I imagine is the
actual founder of it or the person who started he
got into this because in during the pandemic, he just
started like reading like weather reports and shit or no,
he was reading daily CDC reports and then and then
a bunch of people started reloading it. Yeah, just because

(52:54):
he was just just reading off a cdcerport and he's like,
okay now, and then he did like weather for robots
this yeah, and he's like, whoa weather report? And then
he was like there's a quote from him. He's like,
you know, talking about how people who are really like
if you have crazy allergies, you look like the Pollen
Report and stuff. He said, quote, we might make a
pollen podcast and maybe only fifty people listen to, but
I'm already a unit profitability on that, so then maybe

(53:17):
I can make five hundred pollen report podcasts like these
people don't. This is what happens when people have never
made a fucking thing in their life.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Why have we never once on this? On the many
many hours of the show used the phrase unit profit
the fu does that even the cool and soulful term?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah? Yeah, that that.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Founder and you know he is the actual founder because
his name is Pod Founderman.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
So yeah, oh.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
The Cincinnati Founderman's Yeah, the Cincinnati Founderman form of formerly
of Louisville, Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
All right, Uh so that sucks, but we there is
some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala
Harris has announced her memoir. Yeah, it's coming. It's uh,
I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced it a
long time ago. It's coming. It's called one hundred and

(54:15):
seven Days. So it's like about the one hundred and
seven days that she ran for president. Do you guys
remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We all
realized like Biden was bad and then he we finally
like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving the race.
And then she had one hundred and seven days to
run for president and like started with a spark and

(54:36):
had like a couple of good ideas and then those
were immediately like that like replaced by terrible shit by
the Democratic Party and had a chance their advisors. Yeah,
she like had ideas about like greedflation and calling the
Democratic or the Republican party weird. And they're like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(54:57):
shut the Why don't you shut the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, so I wonder here, kiss kiss Dick Cheney's daughter
right now, Kiss her on stage. That's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
So yeah, she's she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores,
but on a live speaking to her major venues. Some
tickets going for more than four hundred dollars, not from
like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
What a fucking cariff. Man, that's amazing. Just like, man,
that was a that was a shitty presidential campaign. Huh.
You want to hear me talk about it for four
hundred bucks? Yeah? Yeah, I do, I do, I do,
I do. The experts are pretty telling, i'd say, presumably like.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
People are looking for some t spillage and like she
she just really published an excerpt in The Atlantic that
defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there was no
cover up concerning his mental decline.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Okay, that's that's where you lost me, Komala, Come.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah, I mean you saw some ship also would kind
of implicate her or something right.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, in a way, there wasn't really a cover up
because literally the entire country was like, oh, that's all
sides of every like there were like a few people
that that tried to deny it, but like.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, we just chose to answer your question. She also said,
and this is the refrain from the Biden side his debate,
clusterfuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips.
And I think and then add in from Hunter Biden,
a little bit of ambient sprinkled in, so he was

(56:43):
it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he
was incapacitated by being a little bit tired.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
He was taking a trip down memory lane.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
That's the trips to take that that thing from Hunter
Biden's like I was on ambient And then like they
looked at the schedules, like bro he was he was
traveled like traveling like a week solidly before that. But again,
like you're saying, like that's not good if just if

(57:14):
traveling makes you all tired like that and you want
to be tuckered out from a trip like a week later,
like that's that's not a good sign. That's like me,
I'm tuckered out from a trip a week later, but like,
I don't want to be present. I would be so
bad at being present. I'd be so fucking sleepy. What
would you do if.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Comes up to you and says header gut jack, then
I cry my superpower, crying my way out of things,
well into my would be.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Interesting that like the American president, with a completely different
strategy from past American leaders, openly sobbing pathetically as a
way to get just like stop like just stop mating,
Like what the hell? All right, Jesus stopped fucking crying. Man,
my god, you're gonna get snot on my.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Supim taft president taft, big crier.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Big yeah. But yeah, there are other things too where
she was like where she is sort of like, look,
there are a lot of times the right wing media
was attacking me and they just didn't say shit. The
White House didn't have my back at fucking all, and
they're like absolutely accurate.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Like the the energy coming out of the Biden camp
during her run for president was like I don't know,
ha haha. Not so easy to have a candidate who
doesn't suck shit, huh, Like you know what I mean?
Like they were just like praying she would. You got
a sense that at least a large part of them
maybe there were two wolves inside of them, and one

(58:53):
was rooting for her, but another was definitely hoping to
see her fail and be vindicated, or thinking that they
had a better shot than her.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah. Yeah, there was another thing that she said to quote,
it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like
a mantra, as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes
were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should
have should have been left to an individual's ego and
individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah, Okay,
I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in

(59:23):
here that isn't that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah,
of course they hung you out to dry like that.
I mean, we saw that.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
This part, which I think we knew already worse. I
often learned that the president's staff was adding fuel to
negative narratives that sprang up around me. One narrative that
took a stubborn hold was that I had a chaotic
office and unusually high staff turnover during my first year.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
As vice president.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I do remember that coming at a pretty critical point, yeah,
in the and like that wasn't coming like they wouldn't
have posted that if that was coming from like JD Vance,
you know what I mean, Like that was coming from
someone inside an administration.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's fucked up a lot of the two.
It's like the Biden cognitive whatever cover up this about
how his team was mean to her. All of it
just reads. It's like the Democratic Party has no idea
what the fuck it's doing. And like if if if

(01:00:20):
this is what like and I don't know, I I
to me, she feels done, Like I feel like I
feel like, as like a populace, we're done with her.
She also, I think, feels done, like I don't know
if she would run again, but if she does, it's
if she does, you know maybe, But like I'm just like,

(01:00:40):
if this is what we're still talking about, it's like
we're fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, the obvious like why did we lose? Like, guys,
is it really that much of a mystery to you?

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I think that's the only reason this story is of value.
Is just too further drive in the coffin of the
Democratic Party just like, guys, look how bad it was
behind the scenes, Like we all thought that they had
a chance because we were hoping they had a chance.
Behind the scenes, they were blowing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
You know, it's a capitalist clown show, and they don't know,
they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the
status quote was really its whole undoing. And now it's
now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden
administration people that are like giving quotes after in the
aftermath of this excerpt, I'm like, now I believe everything

(01:01:32):
she says. Like one person said, quote Vice President Harris
was simply not good at the job. She had basically
zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams,
and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo
ops that expressed how out of depth she. Wow, holy shit, dude,
that's what they're saying now. The day after this, yeh
came out, President Biden was not the mean. Actually you're

(01:01:57):
fucking stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yeah, you're actually fucking I'm not refuting what we're saying
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah, it's it's just mean. Nobody likes you, but no
one's going to tell you that to your face, but
nobody actually likes you. They going to say, quote, President
Biden was not the reason she struggled in officer tanked
her twenty nineteen presidential campaign or lost the twenty twenty
four campaign for that matter. The independent variable there is
the vice president, not Biden or his aides. Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
So you're like, that's like the best I've seen them
at being like critical and clapping that backbone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
They can't. They couldn't do that against Trump. They couldn't. Yeah,
it's just but there's other quotes too that back when
she says another aide or staffer who spoke in this
one article, I think, let me just where was it
in the New Republic said that quote. We all know
that the Biden folks treated her and her team like shit.
We never thought she would actually say anything. Staffers across

(01:02:53):
a range of ages and positions that I'm talking to
are proud of her. Yeah, so there's clearly, like I
mean again, and it just shows a very divided administration.
And I think that was really probably became clear as
Biden just sat on his hands after October seventh, too, right,
So yeah, we will see where if this, if this

(01:03:14):
harms her career because you have other people being like,
well she just nuked her career. Really, yeah, I mean
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I mean like I feel like the type of people
who say that, who are like play it safe politically
always have have proven that they have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Some of the worst instincts in modern politics. I mean,
like think about like Anthony Wiener, you know what I mean,
who went to prison, Like he's even trying to get
back in. Yeah, you know, it takes a lot to
get it through to these people that it's like, hey,
maybe you cooked Yeah I don't think. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
If only they had like some blueprint of a path
forward that had a lot of public support, like just
a New York mayor old candidate who was dominant and
extremely popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try
and fuck over.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Well, it's like the thing where it's like it's like
you say, like the like the Democrats are like like
big pepsi people, and they're like, no, it's pepsi for everyone,
Like everyone likes coke.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
No, no, it's pepsi. It's like I look at the
fucking numbers man. Everyone nobody's drinking PEPs numbers. It tainted
and like they can't even fucking admit it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
They're just like fuck, like no, none of them are
backing zor like like what the fuck is going on that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
I mean again, it's just like I I've just never
felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole.
I'm just like, I don't know what you want from me.
I want nothing from you, guys. I guess like, yeah,
this is just crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, seems bad.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Well, Alan Strick, Williams, such a pleasure having you on
the Daily likest as always.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

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Find me on Instagram, alan Strick and Williams on totally,
Allen on Twitter, on TikTok. I think Alan strickwings dot
com is where you can find oh dates and links
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and you know what, Also, just just keep going, hey,
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Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Going, just one one foot in front of the most
random stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
I'm not chopped, am I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I feel like this is the first time that we've
had you on that we haven't commented on how great
your hair is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
So real quick some of the best hairdos you a convertible.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
I actually do have a video of myself in a
convertible on Adult Swim. You can watch the last open
mic at the End of the World.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
It was during the pandemic. They did a comedy open
mic for Adult Swim. Megan Kister did it and it
was you did it from your car because it's the pandemic.
So I rented a convertible to do it. Hell yeah, person,
I think I wore I think I wore the drive
jacket too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
You took a year off the life of the sound
person on that special, I have to assend. Yeah, yeah, awesome.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Oh yeah, I saw this tweet. You know, this was yesterday,
so I know it's weird with the timing of the episode,
but this says twas the night before. This is September tenth,
twas the night before. This from at Jason Mustian and
it's just a picture of a plate of cookies and
a picture of George W. Bush the night before.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yes, miles Where can people find you? Is there a
working media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Oh Man, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find
me on four twenty talking about ninety day fiance with
Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Is there a thing, a work
of media that I enjoyed? Not really. I think I
was kind of avoiding the media, to be honest, But

(01:07:09):
I did work of media you've enjoyed avoiding? Yes, all
social media? Social media, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I
will avoid social media just in one thing. Josh Furlinger
at jafra doty skuy dot social post it. I guess
the main thing I'm learning this week is that lots
of elite media people knew Charlie Kirk personally and didn't

(01:07:31):
know any Minnesota state legislators.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Seems to be the case. You can find me on
Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob
the number one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I liked this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I think I've shared this before, but this is kurb Bonnagat.
I'm buying an envelope. This is Rosalind Marghlez responded with
this quote to a post from zech Zech which said
order your groceries saves an extra one to two hours
a week. Compounded, that's five fifty to one hundred hours
a year, a whole week work of worth of work

(01:08:06):
you gain. I promise that that time is more important
than the ten dollars delivery fee that was from Zech.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
And then Rosalind.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Marglei's tweeted this quote from Kurvon to get on buying
an envelope. Oh, she says, well, you're not a poor man,
you know, why don't you go online and buy one
hundred envelopes and put them in the closet. And so
I pretend not to hear her and go out to
get an envelope, because I'm going to have a hell
of a good time. In the process of buying one envelope,
I meet a lot of people and see some great

(01:08:36):
looking babies, and a fire engine goes by, and I
give them the thumbs up, and I'll ask a woman
what kind of dog that is? And I don't know.
The moral of the story is we're here on earth
to fart around, and of course the computers will do
us out of that. And what the computer people don't
realize or they don't care, is we're dancing animals, you know,
we love to move around, and it's like we're not

(01:08:58):
supposed to dance anymore. Preach Kurt Vonna get I guess
pretty good. You can find us on Twitter and Blue
Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
You can go to the description of this episode wherever
you're listening to it, and there at the bottom of

(01:09:18):
the description you will find the footnote no, which is
where we link off to the information that we talked
about in today's episode. We also link off to a
song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there
a song that you think that people might enjoy?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, oddly enough. I was just watching the latest Team
and Paula video for the track Loser that's gonna be
on the album Deadbeat. And what's the guy Joe Kearney,
the guy from Stranger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in it.
It's it's it's nice. It's like it's like so East LA.
It's like that whole setting is like such east side

(01:09:52):
Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Just on this one little corner market. But I'm also
a big Kevin Parker fan, and I'm really looking forward
to this album, So you know, we'll keep teasing these
songs out in Drips and Drives, but this is a
loser by Team I paula Yeah, shout out to music videos.
By the way, Paul Thomas Anderson was like talking to
about his new movie which he shot in like some

(01:10:14):
old school form of like film that hadn't been used
a long time. I think like panorama vision or some
panavision panavision, and he was like, yeah, I like made
a music video a couple of years ago and like
used it and it was like fun as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
So you know, like people people are doing cool stuff
in music video still, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Just like nobody has watched them in years. Anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
We will link off to that in the footnotes. The day.
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