Top 10 of 2025: #7 Saint Ghislaine?! Marx’s Theory Of Bore-out 07.25.25

We are counting down the top 10 episodes of 2024, as voted by our listeners. At #7, we have:

Saint Ghislaine?! Marx’s Theory Of Bore-out 07.25.25

In episode 1903, Jack and Miles are joined by adult film star, activist, host of the upcoming 12-hour live-stream extravaganza Corn Telethon, and host of First Thirst, Siri Dahl, to discuss… Saint Ghislaine of Maxwell, Trump Is In The Files, They Keep Coming Up With Alternative Definitions of WORKER ALIENATION, Has Hollywood Made A Single Good Movie About The Pandemic? And more!

1. Saint Ghislaine of Maxwell
2. Burchett dismisses Trump being friends with Epstein: "It's just like me. I know a lot of dirtbags myself."
3. House Republicans back Epstein subpoena
4. House panel votes to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton over possible links to Ghislaine Maxwell
5. Swallowing Reservations, Democrats Go On Offense on Epstein Files
6. They Keep Coming Up With Alternative Definitions of WORKER ALIENATION
7. Eddington is a political satire by horror auteur Ari Aster. But is it also a western?
8. Covid, social media, Black Lives Matter: Ari Aster’s Eddington takes 2020 on and mostly succeeds
9. Eddington: Western Noir Chaos Made Boring
10. 5 Years After COVID-19, Eddington Is The Best Pandemic Movie We've Gotten
11. Hollywood loves a world-shaking disaster – so why is it still silent about Covid?
12. For This Sex Satire, the Pandemic Built a Perfect Set
13. How Pandemic Isolation Inspired Zach Dean To Write Scott Derrickson’s Genre-Bending Thriller ‘The Gorge’
14. Danny Boyle and Alex Garland on '28 Years Later' and how COVID influenced long-awaited sequel
15. The spectacular frenzy of 28 Years Later offers a new breed of pandemic storytelling

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Zach Gang, and welcome to the end of the year.
During these two weeks surrounding Christmas and the New Year,
we take some time off. During the mornings, we'll run
some new holiday and end of the year content that
you can listen to while we're taking a break. This year,
we've got our review of the year at Movies Predictions
for the coming year Sanna University. We look back at

(00:22):
some holiday classics with Chris Croft, and so much good
stuff dropping in the mornings. In addition to all that
stuff in the afternoons where we would usually drop the
Trends episode, we are rerunning the ten most popular episodes
of this year according to you. You voted with your
dang years and we listened with ours. Actually, we looked

(00:45):
at the data we're spying on you. Honestly, I'm mostly
in this podcasting thing for the rich marketing data it
provides to me about each and every one of you.
At the end of the year, when I look back
to see what made the top ten, and this was
actually my favorite year to look back at.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Our top ten.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Is full of episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I feel I've made it because of a bunch of
different reasons. There are some episodes that dropped after huge
news events. There are some first episodes that dropped right
after some hilarious news events, some great new guests, some
classic fan favorite guests, and some new formats we tried
out that we're very excited to see that you guys enjoyed.

(01:28):
Before we get into it, I just want to thank
you guys for once again being such a cool community
that's bloomed up around this podcast we've been doing all
these years. You guys repeatedly make us proud. You're there
for us when we go through some really difficult shit.
You show up at shows of our guests, and we
always get great reports from our guests about our listeners.

(01:52):
You are the rare podcast audience that makes us extremely
proud to have you as listeners so far, So don't.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Don't fuck this up, you guys.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'm all right.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Without further ado, here is episode number seven, the seventh
most popular episode of the year, Saint Julaine, question Mark,
exclamation Point, and Marx's Theory of Borout. It dropped on
July twenty fifth of this year, and it features Sirie
Doll new guests who were excited to have back. And

(02:23):
this is your episode number seven enjoy.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Did you have that moment in school when they talked
about the resurrection or the crucifixion and you go, dude,
why didn't you just fight everybody if he has all
these superpowers? I remember we had a discussion like that
in my grade school because we're like, yo, couldn't he
just like fuck everybody up?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Not in like Sunday school?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And like, well, because I went I went to a Lutheran.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
School, so that makes sense then, and I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I'm not My parents aren't religious, So like I'm learning
all this shit in school, and I'm like, what, dude,
you guys just said he had all these like superpowers
and they're like, how he didn't stop.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
That could say?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
There are these things called the Gnostic Gospels that were
in the Bible for like when the Bible was first
being written and then got edited out, and in those
Jesus has like legit superpowers. Like one time when he's
a kid, he just like kills somebody with the way valiant,
like fucking you know, he's in Slytherin or something, and

(03:24):
I think, yeah, he can do like shit, And I
feel like they might have edited those out because otherwise
it doesn't like make sense later when he can't when
he chooses not to fight back, you know what I mean,
So they just keep his things more like magiciany like
as opposed to like, hey, what's more four fished. It's

(03:48):
just like a fun party, guys. Superpower is just like
throwing sick parties.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
They brought a guy back from the dead, you know
what I mean. We'll talk about that part too well.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
And he did do that to himself. So he's like
kind of true, you know, keeps it.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
He can't remember the teacher saying, it's like, well, did
he actually die if he was? Rather, I'm like, I
don't know, dude, this doesn't sound believable. If this guy
has these powers, he's gonna let him. They're gonna let
him fucking nail him up to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
That same when he shows up to the Disciples, it's like,
I can't kill my ass.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Thought they could do it. Couldn't be A boy's back,
Your boy's back.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Where are we going tonight?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'll bring the wine?

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Where Mary Magdalen at? Where my girl at?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yy?

Speaker 5 (04:30):
There she is?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
All right, We're ready. We got good ratios. Now when
we go to the club, Hello.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Internet, and welcome to season three ninety eight, Episode five.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Of der Daily Night Guys.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
This production by Heart Radio as a podcast where you
take a deep dive into America, share consciousness, and this fry.
July twenty fifth, five.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yes, it's National Wine and Cheese Day, National High Your
Veteran Day, National Hot Punch Sunday Nay, National Merry Go
Round Day, National Thread the Needle Day, National Getting Gnarly Day,
Dude nar gna r DAG, National talking an elevator and
I don't do that, man, nobody wants to talk to
you in an elevator. And System Administrator Appreciation Day. Thank
you to all the people who will do system admin.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Work admin them system Yeah, thank you. How pudge Sundays
Merry Go Rounds.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I hate hot. Hot fudge tastes like shit. It goes
bad quickly.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
It gets gloppy, like its natural state is way too gloppy.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's a bad one.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I do prefer a Hershey's syrup Sunday Sunday.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Basically, ten times out of ten, you're putting a thing that,
when it's not hot, gets gloppy onto yeah, immediately.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Glops it up.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, And you fuck hot Fudge Sundays, Mary go rounds
in this house.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Epstein's World. Saw the
footage of you leering at girls. You absolutely sent that
creek be card convincing mag's gonna be so hard a
bridge too far. You're in Epstein's World. That one courtesy

(06:16):
of the Hacker less than zero in the Discord the
Hacker bro and X three r oh he when he
posted that I'm in and then posted it. But yeah, no,
I know you're I know, we know you're You're a
member of the Discord for sure. I'm thrilled to be
joined as always by my co host mister Miles Gray.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Miles Gray AKA because hook it's not.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
It like Keith Nobody hoo can smoke it like Keith
Nobody hook and slam h all nine long, Keith Richer's baby.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Shout out to Sherry Boyd or Sherry Bird my bad.
I'll hit me up on Twitter with this wonderful Keith
sweat tuned aka talking about who cas snort it like
Keith Richards because obviously Ozzie couldn't hang Ozzie couldn't hang
Keith Richards.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Come on, who Cas snorted like, Keith, Okay, thank you
for that.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
With Sherry, he's just he's just not a greedy like
the rest of them. Exactly like some cocaine, not all
of the cocaine. And I have money for good cocaine,
you know what I mean. Try, here's a note, Try
good cocaine. Yeah, maybe stop sewing that Kroger you know
what I mean? Yeah, that crogue cane, you know what
I mean. I hope a lot of people with addiction

(07:35):
problems didn't read that book and be like, oh, okay,
all right, it's John got it.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
In their little books.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by an adult film star, content creator, powerlifter activist who
hosts the very fun podcast First Thirst, where guests talk
about their first pop culture crushes.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Please welcome, Siri d welcome, Welcome. I am welcome ye
to have you here.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Oh, thank you for joining us on this terrible, terrible podcast.
It's great to have people. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Thank
you for being honest. We appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We just we spend a lot of times talking about you,
a lot of time talking about Jesus. It just comes
up randomly.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I think it's so absurd. To me, it's absurd, and
we both.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Just like the story Jesus the Man, Jesus the Magician.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
It is, yeah, I mean us a Heroin addict.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, you know that famous poster where the guy's shooting
Heroin but it's Jesus's arm.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I bet he had like some Keith Richards level tolerance.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
He was like, imagine, slam it in there real quick.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
You just can't hang here. It's like a joint once
and he's a fucking mess. Are you mad at me?
You guys like my dad?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, he's like a lot of people who really like
to drink, you know, but they take one hit and
they're like, God, everybody's talking about me, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Siri, who was your first pop culture crush?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Okay? I have a couple, but I like the one
I like to throw out is it's really like the
first memory I have of having a very strong, like
attraction like crush feeling as a as a young and
as a literal child, and it's I'm sorry, it's very
very hyper specific. So in the movie Hook Yes, starring
Dustin Hoffman and Robin Williams. There's a scene when Robin Williams,

(09:33):
who plays you know, Peter Panning, he's like Peter Pan,
but he left Neverland, so he actually did end up
turning into it at all. Anyway, he goes back to
grown ask Peter Pan played by Harry so.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Much than I thought Peter was going to grow up
to be those knuckles.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
There's a scene where he like drops a ball into
the water and he goes to like get it out
and he like leans over. He's in Neverland at this point,
or he's like, I don't really remember exactly. The contact
is earlier in the movie. He leans in to get
this ball out of the water, and instead of his
adult self reflected back at him, it's like Peter Pan,

(10:09):
like him when he was a kid as Peter Pan.
That's the reflection looking back at him. And uh, and
that was the kid that played the Peter Pan reflection.
He shows up like one other point like in the movie,
but for some reason, it was the reflection in the
water scene that like was the one that got me.
And I would rum the VHS tape that we had
because I would him it was like a five second

(10:30):
It's not even it's like maybe two seconds shot of
this kid. And I found out, like I talked about
this on my podcast in one of the earlier episodes,
and I found out in that conversation that the child
in that scene is Dustin Hoffman's actual son, who's like
in his forties. He was like twelve when they filmed
it in the early nineties. And yeah, just like five,

(10:52):
six year old me was just like absolutely had the
hots for this this little peer Panovoyfman.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I did that to our Rocky four tape home VHS
cassette because there was a part like during apollos, like
the dance before the thing, where like a butt is
shown very briefly, and six year old me was going back.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And forth over that way too much.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yo.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
Wait, this guy's got dreadlocks now, I mean, look at
yeah Maxwell Hoffman, Yeah he dreadlocks now, white guys wo.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
No ell yeah yeah right right, just chilling.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
White o ever gonna like stop.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Oh this is from twenty sixteen, so maybe he probably
learned if he had him after twenty twenty, I'd be like, bruh, yeah,
I mean even twenty sixteen, you should be knowing better.
But okay, hey, all right, Maxwell, the question Are white.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
People ever gonna stop? Is such a good, just broad
historical question. It's like it's like that tweet where someone
was like, fortunately Lebron's thirty, this madness will soon be over,
and then for ten years later, are what people ever
gonna stop? I'm sure people have been saying that since

(12:12):
the sixteen hundreds, well fourteen.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Hundreds, yeah, let's say fourteen ninety two. We can pay
say around there that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, Are they ever gonna just fucking give it a rest?
All right, Miles, I guess we need to hear your
pop culture crush your first.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Oh man, I was just thinking. One of the first
people I was really obsessed with was Jennifer Connolly in Rocketeer.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
The Rocketeer. Oh interesting, I don't yeah. I first saw
The Rocketeer as a kid.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I could. I don't know why. That was like that
was me.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Maybe because she's one of the most beautiful human beings
in the history of Maybe it could be.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
And then after that it was. And then then I
had that I was like I've mentioned that before. When
Tyra Banks showed up on Fresh Prince, I was a
fucking I was gone.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, yeah, that was melted.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, So we're going
to get to know you a little bit better in
a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a
couple of things we're talking about. We are going to
talk about the urge right now that is happening to
rehab the image of Gilaine Maxwell. Yeah yeah, like like

(13:26):
fellow child trafficker.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yes, yes, yes, her she might be. She might be
a victim is what people are now saying in many ways,
the on right wing news.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So uh so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
whether the Democrats are going to fuck us up, how
they might fuck it up. We will talk about the
new the new craze and worker alienation. It's called it's
called boor out, and it's affecting many young people who

(13:58):
hate their job for some reason.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
So we'll talk about that.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
We'll talk about there's a new pandemic movie, the ari
Astor movie.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
This one will not stick in my head. What is it?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Eddington Eddington, Eddington, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that that movie's out.
We're just going to talk about I haven't seen Eddington
a reader jam so I didn't love it, but just
curious that there's not more like pandemic content just writ
large across the history of art. So we'll talk about

(14:31):
that and what what movies do kind of make sense
when they bring it up, and what movies have not
all of that plenty more. But first, Siri, we do
like to ask our guest, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 5 (14:45):
My search history? Oh God, I have to actually go
look at it.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Huh yeah, yep, ever.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Look at that. I don't even know where to find that.
So okay, you.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Sound like like Pam Bondy at the DJ with the
I don't even look history.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Oh there we go, there's the show full history. That's okay.
I mean, I've spent a lot of energy searching for
recipes for sourdough pizza crust recently because I got a
pizza oven for my birthday and an outdoor pizza oven.

(15:21):
And I've lived in LA since September, and what I've
learned living here is that there's not very good pizza
in LA. And even when I find pizza that is acceptable,
it's not the style that I like, which is interesting
sourdough crust. So so now, yeah, I got.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
My gout coming from New York. Where are you coming from.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Louisville, Kentucky before I lived?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, there's a jack you know a little bit about Louisville.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
There's a place called Pizza Loopo there that it like,
I don't even have words to describe how.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Good it is.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
It's so glue. If anyone listening to this or any
of y'all ever find yourselves in Louisville, Kentucky, pay Pizza
LOOPO is it?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And not LOOPO because I know that Louisville is Louvolle.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Their logo is like a wolf with pizza teats getting
his pizza teats suckled.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Okay, got it. I was like, I was curious. I'm like,
we're doing a Romulus remis pizza tea motif?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, the classic Romulus remas pizza teat motif.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Pizzazz are the teat slices slices Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I was just trying to make sure. I'm just can visualize,
so are.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
What comes out of a pizza teeth? Is it just
sauce or is it like a full like mixture of
pizza that has somehow been liquefied.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
I feel like one dispenses hot honey and the other
dispenses melted mozzarella.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh interesting, I was thinking of like sort of never
ending pizza slice that every nibble you take it just reachenter.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
It just keeps like like.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
It's a sketch.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Woe.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's really fun.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Actually, you know, I'm really into mythology, so I like
to really take time sort of sort of storyboarding like
what mythology.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
And then it's just.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like kind of growing in front of you exactly exactly,
which like sounds like it would be difficult from a
physics perspective, but you know what so is like just
milk being made in there like that.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
That is wild. That's a very strange thing that happens.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Wait, so what where have you been in La where
you're like, bro, this pizza fugus sucks that people have told.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
You so well, just most of the pizza places that
are just around and I live. I like, I'm in
the valley. So granted, you know, valley not known for
it's like Colin advancements.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Good Tai food. We got good Tye food in.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
The There's plenty of amazing food. I am being Yeah,
That's why I'm very specifically calling out the lack of
like good pizza. It's like it's like it I will say,
I haven't really had pizza that's like horrendously disgusting, but
like it's just all of it's like very mid And
then the couple places that people recommended me that they're like, well, okay,
if you're that bougie about it, like try this place.

(18:23):
Like everyone's telling me their favorite place, and I go
and try them, and almost all of the ones that
I get recommended, there's like good good are on the
east side, more like Highland Park, you know, so we're
like in the Uxture areas, which makes sense. There's a
lot of cool restaurants over there. And and so I've
tried pretty much all the ones I've been recommended, and
they have been better than like kind of the average

(18:43):
accessible pizza in the valley for sure, and they're good
for what they are. But again, for me, it's not
just about the pizza itself. It's like the specific style. Yeah,
and it's really hard, like a lot of places do it,
like wood Fired in LA which is surprising.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm just like why, Yeah, I was so hoping that
when you were like there's this one place in Louisville
that it was gonna be Papa John's.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
No I do a funny story about Papa John. Though
it's not even my story.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I feel like everybody from Louisville does, wait about John Schnatter,
the about John Yeah, yeah, yeah himself.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
It was so it's this my partner who's like born
and raised from Louisville to one of the people that
was involved in this incident apparently. But John Schnader like
owns this whole like little like neighborhood in the like
rich area of Louisville. Like he just owns like all
the land and like like so he's and he like

(19:44):
lived there for a while. I don't know if he does anymore,
but he used to ride his bicycle all around that area.
And so it was like the last day of school
and these teenagers who had just you know, like driving
down the road. I think they had like literally last
day ever of school, like last day of twelfth grade,
and they were just goofing around and one of them
was like, fuck, fuck this, We're finally done, and he

(20:04):
like tossed a textbook out the window. But John Schnadder
was like riding his bicycles. He just got fucking like
like ship bagged off his bike by this big, big
high school book and apparently he like was good at
press charges. He eventually oh, actually, but he like wanted

(20:28):
to and it was like threatening these teenagers because he
thought he was like trying to say it was like
a hate crime. But it's like they didn't know that
you were John, they were targeting you.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
They just threw the book.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
He won a bicycle.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
He's like, oh, what a nice day.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I love it so much because I don't like him
and I don't like his pizza.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Apparently suck it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I've heard not great things. Yeah, what is uh? What's
something Siri? Do you think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Okay? Overrated? Cold pizza? I mean we're just talking about
pizza anyways, So like right, okay, I just I hate
cold pizza. I hate it a lot.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
You can't eat cold pizza. It's it's it's repulsive.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
To well, it's both that I choose to not eat it,
like I have no desire, and also I'm pretty sure
at this point I couldn't like if like it. It
is disgusting enough to me as like a texture, a temperature,
a flavor experience that if I were to take a
bite of cold pizza. I would really have to fight

(21:33):
vomiting as I like, I would actively fight vomiting with you,
Like we've gotten so good at like there's so many
good options for reheating now with like air fryers, which
is like using a pan that like, why whyever do
cold pizza?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I mean argument about this quite often because so many
people really like cold pizza. Like they they're like, well,
it's like a separate experience that stands alone to have
it when it's cold, And I'm like, you know what,
I respect that you feel that way right right right,
You're allowed to have that feeling.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I am also allowed.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
To feel that you're mentally ill, right right for that
being your preference.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
It is a little bit like people being like I
really like cold French fries, Like.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Really, that's only high people say that?

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Do high people say they like I used to eat
cold ass friends because I would be so high and
it would be like this, I got those fries from earlier,
and then you're just like.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
My, so so high, I'm a stoner, but I've never
been so high that I wanted to eat food served
at the incorrect temperature on purpose.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh I'm a piece I'm a vile scumbag when it
comes to like what I'll eat just high, like the
barges subterranean.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
The one cold food that I really ride for is
cold chicken of any sort, cold like fried chicken, cold wings.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I really like cold wings. Yeah wings.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Okay, I got a I got an underrated now, okay,
because I can only think of things in terms of
food in this moment. So my underrated is salted black licorice.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I love salted licorice.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
There's a specific brand that I think it's finished, and
I order it online because it's it's impossible to find
anywhere else. And it has like a witch on the bag.
It's just an idministration of a witch flying through the sky.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
I cannot hang with.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Was it called jungle varrawl, No, that's a different one.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
That's actually heck shalek s h e y l okay
wait is salted black licorice just better.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I hate the flavor that anie flavor. You will not
like this that, okay.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I was like, maybe this SALTI like it's black licorice.
It's incredibly salty, and it also if you look at
the ingredient, it's like it has like literal ammonia in it,
Like it's just from Europe. They have different like preservatives
that they use over there. So the preservative used in
this particular licorice like candy is is like ammonia based, yeah,

(24:13):
which just makes it even more addictive because it has
this like weird like like in your mouth.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, it does feel because I got on a salty
licorice kick for a while.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
And it does.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
It hasn't gotten that last like because it in the
United States, like all the best scientists are going into
making food like addictive and perpetually addictive, so that like
you can be on your one hundred skittle and be like, man,
these are actually getting better as you get whereas like

(24:47):
salty licorice, I feel like when I was on a
real salted liquorice kick, like I like the eighth piece,
I was like, I need to stop because this is
like bad for observing. I think I started tasting the ammonia.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, I kind of like that, so I would never
start like I have to stop myself with this particular kind.
It's the flavor is pretty strong and like overwhelming. Also
like they're not hard, they're like they're a unique like
delivery format because it's like a it's like a little
I don't know, it looks like a sour straw or

(25:23):
something like a little chunk of a sour straw, like
a segment, and it has like a filling. So it's
like that there's like a tube that's like the licorice part,
and then the inside has this filling that's also more licorice,
but that's like really kind of ammonia part. So you
have two different textures. And I'm getting way too into this.
So I have a way that I like I do
with all foods, like snack foods, I have a very

(25:44):
specific way I eat it. It's like I like have
I put the piece of my mouth and then it's
like a fifteen minute process for one piece of candy
where I like break it down in my mouth by
like eating it a certain way. Obviously I have some
some uh some conditions. I have some like DHD some

(26:05):
stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I do get it in your mouth ADHD also where
or like OCD or whatever like where I'm always like
I have routines that I do with my gum where
like flatten it out into a tube, then I roll
the tube up then I press the tube flat so
that it or press the rolled up thing flat so
it's a pancake shape. Roll that, roll the pancake up

(26:26):
so that it's a flat tube. Let's roll it out
then bring that up so it's like you know, a
roll of tape flat, press it flat into a pancake
and just do that over and over.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Sorry, I accused you of being high on molly the
last time you were together. There's jaw your mouth was
going crazy.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
And if I had known you were just.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Flattening that gum out, yeah, I wouldn't have made that
whole business meeting awkward.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Do you ever do you ever mold the gum to
the roof of your mouth and like with gum, it's
like has to be the right kind of gum where
it's off and then you pull it out and you're like, wow,
that's through my mouth.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, it's all bubble gum.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Because bubble gum that has the thickness that you can
really do like a like a dental impression.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah, I'd be like, yep, that's the roof of my mouth.
And I'm forty and I'm doing in a movie theater.
Thank you? What do we say about you?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
And gum on Mike Jack, I can't stop you, motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
I don't I don't hear the sounds.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
So my my other routine is that I take trident
already small pieces break them in half.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
So, oh my god, that's what my mom did.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
I would that's trauma for me.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I go through a lot of trydent, so I need
I need this.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
When I'd go to church with the family as a kid,
and like, I hated it because it was too long
and boring, and I would just continually ask my mom
for pieces of gum, but she choose trident gum, the
blue one, and she would tear the piece in half.
And I was always like, I was like fucking offended,
Like how damn you half a gum?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Mother? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I don't do it for anybody else, but when I'm chewing,
I break it into half pieces.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
If I ever only have a half piece left, my wife.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Is very angry at me.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, weird person.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Anyways, Uh great, overrated, underrated. Let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
And we're back.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I was just thinking I was at the movies. I
eat eminem, I let the eminem's melt in my mouth.
I like to get the shell to fucking just fully
dissolve in my mouth, and then I just eat the
chocolate bits. That's one of my weird and then you
get the little crunch ye like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
ever put the M and ms in the popcorn?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
No, I don't like to do that.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I don't like I don't like savory and sweet, all right.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I like to make a little shut up jack, to
make a little trail mix. By the way, you to
think it was weird too, and and now I like it.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
If you do like the savory sweet. There's a new
variety of Oreo out. It's a chocolate covered pretzel flavor.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I saw that.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
There's a good They're crazy. They do be very good.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I resisted. When I was at the store yesterday, I
was like, they're very good. Yeah, I love pretzels.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
During my early twenties, I was like, does anybody like
I would literally ask people if they knew anyone at
Eminem's because I wanted Eminem's to make a chocolate covered
pretzel version of M and M's, and then they did
without checking with me, and it's shucked. And so I've
always been skeptical because I've been burned before with the

(29:38):
fact that Oreo has nailed it in your heart the
lemon Oreos like when when they put their mind to something,
they sometimes really really connect.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
All right, this sounds like a right wing podcast because
they're doing anything but talking about Gilaine.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Maxwell and eminems mentioned.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I liked it. I liked them.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Can melt in my hand and not my mouth because
of that ad campaign. Wasn't that they're thing in the eighties,
not in your hand?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like, oh, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Tell me if I squeeze a shit out of them. Yeah,
let's talk about Gilaine song Gilayn of do Maxwell, I
believe is what they're going to be calling her, Saint
Gillane of Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
The latest twist in the Epstein saga is like the
full on media press campaign to normalize Gallaine Maxwell, Epstein's
girlfriend and co conspirator. So the DOJ we talked about,
they announced that they would be speaking with her to
find out what she knows, although the Epstein files themselves
would probably reveal a whole lot more than whatever she

(30:45):
can gin up. But sure, okay, let's act like the
secrets are all contained within Gilaine Maxwell, so you can
avoid actually having a reckoning with the all the documentary
documented evidence around the trial. Okay, sure, go ahead and
do that. And we also got reports now that Maxwell
is quote preparing new evidence to show the Deputy Attorney General. Obviously,

(31:08):
teaming up with a convicted predator isn't the best look
for Trump, but they seem to think that if they
can get Maxwell to say something like Donald had nothing
to do with any of the fucked up child abuse,
that maybe the base will lay off. I'm not sure,
but that's it's it's very much getting more and more
like what are you going to get her to say
in order for you to go give her a lighter

(31:30):
sentence or commute sentence or whatever. Charlie Kirk was saying.
He's like, talking to Maxwell is actually a good thing,
and we should be encouraging the DOJ in this, and
she's like, okay, that's one take of that box. And
then Greg Kelly from news Max we've talked about before.
He is the guy who's like, hey, what if Jeffrey
Epstein maybe he was a patriot.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
If he was working for the CIA and actually like
doing this to save people's lives. I don't know, I'm
just spitballing here.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I'm just spitballing bullshit. Now.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
He basically now is doing the similar thing with Glene
Maxwell and asking just maybe maybe she's the one that's
been wronged and we need to think about what her
story is. This is Greg Kelly on News Max.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
I do have a feeling that she has been She
just might be a victim. She just might be. There
was a rusty judgment. There was a lot of pass
there for a while. All Right, Granted she hung out
with Jeffrey Epstein, and I know that's apparently not good.
But she's in jail.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Wait, sorry for how long now? And apparently that's not
good hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, Like what and now
you can't hang out with the convicted sexual predator.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
That is kind of, like the editor, I think they
want to take the sting out of being associated with
Like that's a nice little poke at that. I'm like,
which apparently, I guess is apparently that's.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
A crime to be the best friends with this guy
and always hanging out with him and the people that
he trafficked children.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
He goes on to have like a quote from Alan Dershwitz,
who's like, I don't know, man, I think there's nothing
to see, you know. He's like, there's nothing to see
here at all, because that's just that's my take to
sort of protect myself. Then Greg Kelly comes out, comes
back like sort of echoing what Dershowitz says, because he
was like, maybe she deserves to be released.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
This is really unfair.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Dershwitz says that Glaine Maxwell got the got a raw
deal because someone had to be held accountable for Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
But then this is Greg Kelly just yes, ending that take.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
She deserves to be out and maybe she never deserved
to be in there in the first place.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Now is such a thing?

Speaker 6 (33:42):
I mean, these are perverts, these are child molesters.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
We've heard that.

Speaker 9 (33:46):
From Whome, from the media, from prosecutors. What the fuck
prosecutors prosecuted President Trump over nothing. I don't know, but
I'm skeptical of everything and everybody these days, and you
should be too.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
So that's they're they're yeah, they're signaling pretty strongly. What
the next phase of this thing is is just getting
Gillen to say something.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Everyone has to.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Believe her and we'll move on and she can be free.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
We have her image to use her as a star
witness and then also kind of planting the idea that
she should be out so that they can then pardon
her in exchange for whatever she's gonna say, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's so like blatant, like they didn't even like do
the and also maybe she's like they didn't provide anything

(34:40):
to say she's innocent that they just said. So I
don't know, I just have this feeling that she's a
victim too. Yeah, they're they're again they're prosecutors, were mean
to Trump and they're the ones who are saying she
did bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
He is literally the argument.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I mean this, this isn't really everything they're saying isn't
really changing the minds of a lot of people, like
in the Republican Party though, like even people like Nancy
Mace have sided with Democrats to get them to really
like to have like more materials released.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
So I don't know what they're just like in a
weird spot.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
And now like you have other Republicans trying to do
stuff of like be like we all know dirt bags.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Hell, I know a few dirt bags myself, and you're like, what.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
That's what they're saying, yeah, that's calling Tim dirt bags.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
That's what Tim Burkett, Congressman Tim Burkett said. He's like, hey,
it's just like he said, It's just like me, I know,
I know a lot of dirt bags myself. And you're like,
that's not a that's not a good line. That's truly
like a I eat pieces of shit like you for
breakfast line. And someone goes, you eat pieces of shit right,
and then you go, uh, you'd hang out with dirt bags?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Is that what you're saying? No Edophiles, no I and
you call them dirty.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's Obama, guys, It's Obama, like you know, that's where everything,
that's the vibe of everything right now. So yeah, we
should brace ourselves for a whole lot of nonsense because
as on Thursday, apparently that's when the Deputy Attorney General
is supposed to meet with Glene Maxwell to whatever the
fuck they're gonna cook up.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Because Pam Bondi like is stressed out or something. Isn't
that the thing they're saying that she's like suffering from.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
She said she had a corn tornia and torn.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
She had a corn torn.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
She said he had a torn cornea, so she had
to miss him like human trafficking event today. That's what's crazy.
She was scheduled to speak at a human trafficking thing
for seapack.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I think just look at corn runs in like.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Trafficking event, you mean where they all get together and
human traffic.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
She never misses those. She's such a huge fan.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Huge fan because she's got to got to bring it down.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, no, truly, But like.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Dislocated corneas are caused by her exacerbated by stress. I
wonder what could be stressing her out.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
There's no way to know, really, no way to know,
no way to know, because we we did, of course,
get the revelation that she had to tell Trump in
May that he was in the files, which around the
time that he started being like, what's what's the big
deal with this? Why is everybody going on and on
being so weird about this thing?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
That's all just Guy's dead. He's dead. What do you want?
Why are we still talking about him? It's not going away.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
It ain't going away, no matter how hard they try it.
Like there's another report that he's just basically banning people
in the administration from even speaking on anything about it
now to just like act like I don't know, like
a possum or something like, just just play possum if
they ask and just be like.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I don't know, I can't say anything.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
It has high level clear Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
all bad.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I don't know how they're I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
It's just a it's ironic to watch this conspiracy that
they have been fanning the flames of like they fanned
it to the point that the flames got so out
of control.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Now they're like it could burn us.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Now do you think he just forgot that he was
best friends with him for like a decade, do it
like when he was fanning the flames, or we just
think he was like so in the like the crowd seems.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
To be responding to this, so that's what we're going with.
It's so shortsighted. I think he just he knew people
were cheering about it. And also I think because of
his entire life has been a festival of getting away
with shit, right, But it's never in his mind that
this could be tricky at all. He's like, well, we're
gonna fucking do like nothing, I.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Guess when he was fanning the flames, he wasn't necessarily
talking specifically about Epstein, right, so that he just didn't
know the fire was gonna spread like that.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeh yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
All right, let's talk about Borout the sequel to borat
boor at three out.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Uh, what's the most bored you've been at a job?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Sirie?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
She has say right now?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yah, she got to say it right now, right now.
I bet right right now, fucking.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Yeah, I'm pretty bored right now. I have no idea
I'm not getting paid for this, okay, So like it
was the most bored I've ever been. But also overall
I liked the job because when it wasn't boring, it
was fun, but just there was so much boredom involved,
and it was It was honestly the last job that

(39:40):
I had before I uh got back in to the
porn industry, because I I started in porn in like
twenty twelve and then retired in twenty fifteen. So from
twenty fifteen until I came back in twenty twenty, I
had worked civilian jobs, regular regular folk jobs, and the
last one I had before I came out of retirement

(40:02):
was at a like a small publishing company, and we
would do like trade like magazines and like directories and
stuff for different like professional trade associations. We had clients
all over the US, and so the boredom would come
from like just well one being at a desk all
day having to either look at a screen or do
I was a copy editor and like copywriter for a

(40:26):
bunch of these clients that I, you know, worked on
their publications, and just just some of the stuff that
I had to work on was so dry. Like one
of the one of my clients, like in my book
was I forget the name of but it was. It

(40:46):
was like the Fiberglass Professionals of the West Southwest or something.
So they to edit the like quarterly magazine for all
of their like trade association members. And so each issue

(41:08):
was just like article after article that I either had
to like write, like like go interview people, like write
up the things, or just they would deliver it already
written and I'd have to like you know, edit it
and and and it was just essay about fiberglass, right,
you know.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, kingpin of the Southwest fiberglass industry.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
He always a hot shot.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
And then some of them were like less boring though,
so like they're really really dry ones were like. But
then the funeral directors Associations, we had a bunch of different,
like regional ones in that group of clients. So I
got to edit one of their things, and and the
funeral directors they're they're freaks.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
What do you mean?

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Like that was some fun stuff. Even if the material
I had to it was like super dry, I'd still
have fun with it because the ads in that magazine
were all like for like cranes to move the dead
body in your like it was unhinged.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Like.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Directors are very funny people, is what I learned. They
generally have a good sense of humor, right, very.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Connected to like the aspect of life that like the
vast majority of polite society is spending like i'd say,
ten of our energy every day, just like suppressing thoughts
about death, you know, and they're just like in it
all day, just being like yeah, so then we moved
a bunch of bodies around, so they just yeah, that's

(42:43):
very interesting.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Well God, I mean, I'm wondering maybe it would have
been more fun if you could put your own spin
on that Fiberglass Quarterly article and made it a little
more fun. But like there's all we talked all the
time about all these funny phrases people come up with
that talk about the ills of capitalism, like quiet quitting. Uh,
and you know, like micro retirements and now there's bore

(43:08):
out micro retirements.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
By the way, we're.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Vacation vacations, yes, facause this guy is weird. He does
a micro retirement once every couple of years for two
weeks where he like doesn't even think about or do
any work. Well, he's micro retired.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So bor out.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
It's not quite burnout where you are worked too hard
and have nothing left in the tank. It's like being
bored out of your mind because your job is not
stimulating at all.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Rather than feeling overwhelmed from too many tasks and responsibilities,
you're simply unmotivated and stagnant due to a lack of
challenges or growth opportunities. It's difficult to find purpose when
you have nothing to work toward and no obstacles to overcome.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
While most people feel bored at work every now and again,
feeling chronically disinterested in your job for weeks on end
means there may be an underlying issue going on. Said
Peter Duriss, CEO of AI Career app Kick Resume.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Why is it always AI people, It's always We had
that guy who was like, parenting is hard, use AI
and he was like an AI executive. It's funny that
they just like have a lot of time, I guess
to sit around because they don't fucking do shit.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I think it's probably easy to like get your name
in an article and then people go, oh, what's it's
like a soft ad, you know, essentially right because this
one again there's so many articles, or they're just like,
you guys are talking about late stage capitalism and capitalism
in general, but you're doing everything you can to not
use those words. So rather than describing i don't know,
like the the Marxist theory of alienation, like where you know,

(44:40):
you're reduced to being a cog and a financial machine
and you aren't encouraged to live out to your full
human potential under capitalism, Like that might be why you're bored.
That could be that could be the nature of the
bore out, rather than like them being like make sure
your HR department is more accessible.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Come on, what the fuck? What are you saying?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
The solution to existential despair talking to hr Oh really,
because that actually exacerbates mine, That actually makes my existential
despair worse. Yeah, I'm talking to somebody who has a
fake personality.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
It's just like.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Kelly, Oh my god, I'm so glad to be talking
to you.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Drunk dark.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Yeah, I mean I think that's the thing everyone is feeling.
Like capitalism grind them down, and I guess the revolutionary
thing would be right at articles about how our modern
world is making us more and more disconnected from our humanity.
But whatever, we just get these articles with a quote
from an AI executive like as a smoke screen, and then.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Some really cool tips on how to cope. It's bore out.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, it's it's it's a really tough name. They haven't
really nailed it with this one. Why quitting at least
like rolled off the tongue.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Bore out?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Just you really want to say borat every single time?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I think I don't know. Broadly,
we see this stuff about how like four day work
weeks are better for people and like allowing people to
like you know, have time off to be humans helps,
but it's it's couldn't be us. What's what's the like
experience like in terms of like in the adult film

(46:20):
industry in terms of your feeling of ownership over your
work and how that sort of compares with other sort
of professions.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Siri, Oh well, I mean I have pretty complete ownership
over it at this point, which is, you know, it's
not unique to me, but like that's that's not really
the average experience. I mean, it kind of depends. People
have different there's different ways of building a career in
the adult industry. But for me, you know, I don't
have an agent, so like I only book shoots directly

(46:50):
for things where I'm like working for a paycheck for
a studio, you know, for a company, that's still like
a really small percentage of the total work I do.
Most of what I do is just making my own
content and selling it on fan platforms, and that's just
you know, I have all.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
The control exactly.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
That's probably empowering to be able to, you know, have
a say in what your labor is and ownership of
it versus God, like when I fucking did stupid retail
jobs and they're like, you guys need to unwrap all
the purses and set them up now, and I'm like, I.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Give fucking yeah, retail's painful. I have it's hard, it's hard,
but yeah in retail.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
But again I think like it's all these articles I
feel like just all miss like the point about It's like,
it's the thing that we yearn for is to have
work that feels like we are somehow centered and even
if we have to toil to like be able to survive,
like being able to emphasize that you also need the
autonomy as a person to like create or do nothing,

(47:52):
luxure whatever the fuck you want to do, and still
have the ability to do that without feeling like, oh,
you will die in the streets if you don't work
constantly like that. That's what we're getting at here. But sure,
let's call it borout.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
That makes you feel weird, there's something wrong with you.
It's called borout. Yeah, yes, all right, let's take a
quick break.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
And we're back.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
We're back, And another pandemic movie has hit, apparently the
new Ariaster movie the guy made Midsommer and Hereditary and
bo Is Afraid, which I'm now being told is worth
watching people who I don't know. When it first came out,
it was very mixed reviews, and maybe this will be

(48:45):
the same. But his new movie Eddington is like a Western,
but it takes place during the pandemic, and it's like
an anti vax sheriff versus a like liberal triangulator, a
triangulator politician and Peter Pascal and it's like everyone's bad

(49:05):
and crazy and fighting with each other. But it like
does take place during the pandemic. Everybody's just like communicating
and like looking at screens, and some people say it's
a boring vision of the world. That's one of the
reviews that was the Jacobin review.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I've heard other pione I saw someone who saw it
early and they were just kind of like, I didn't
like it because it felt as crazy as everything is, Like,
it didn't feel it was sort of like maybe underlin
But again, I think that's I think that's the thing
with pandemic movies is everyone has their version of it
that they're bringing to content like this, and you might
be like, oh, wow, this is interesting, or some people

(49:43):
might be like, dude, I don't want to fucking think
about this.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah. Yeah, Like that's the thing. I remember when the
pandemic first started, we were on here like talking about
how to like where to find content from, like from
other pandemics, right, And the thing I settled on though,
was like my favorite thing about pandemics was the Camu

(50:05):
novel that is I'm drawing a blank on the name
of it, but plague. Yeah, plague I think is what
it's called. But that one is really good. But it
was written like decades after the pandemic, and so I mean,
maybe this will be a thing where people in fifty
years or just like look back and be like, oh shit,

(50:26):
that's what it was like. You know, it's like a
time capsule of just like how bad everything was. That's
like too real. Like time capsules are not fun to
open a couple years later, but if you open them decades.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Later, it can be pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
So but yeah, just generally, like pandemic content is real
hit and mostly miss.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah, I just don't I don't know.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
I mean, like I think it probably just because we're
too we're still in the midst of COVID being like
being a thing that's still affecting people, so I.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Don't know how much time it will take.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
But also I think part of me also thinks of
like how that how like the lockdown's really fractured people
in this way that suddenly it was fine to not
give a fuck about the collective well being of others,
and in fact, that was like a virtue for some people.
And I don't know if maybe that that needs to
be dove into deeper, but I think that's like a

(51:23):
discomfort I get from it. I'm like, oh, man, like shit,
really people started really fucking breaking apart too at that
point when it's like I don't give a fuck if
my grandmother dies, Like you're just like this, what is no?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
No, siria, Are you a pandemic content fan?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Are you of the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Top pandemic favanda?

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Like I don't know, I can't even name you one
piece of like a movie or anything about a pandemic
situation that I'm like, yeah, I love.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
That or no, But like when you hear about it,
are you kind of like fuck, dude, this is really
something I can just.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
Like anytime it's like in the news for some reason
now or.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
No, like Edding, like for example, this film Eddington like
taking place.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
I mean, I'm definitely going to see the movie now,
and I like, I mean, Midsommar is like in my
top three favorite movies of all time. So yeah, I
like and I liked bo I Was Afraid even though
it was a lot.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah wait what was that? Wait? What's it about?

Speaker 5 (52:26):
What is it about?

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Oh Jesus, right, yeah, that's all I need to know.
Like ari Astra and the goes what what is it about?
And I'm like, all right, that's what it is about.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Also, it's like the inside of a very broken brain. Right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Yeah, it's a wild ride. It's like if you want
to watch a movie and feel like you've experienced uh
like full psychotic like mania and et cetera. Like that's
a good one. It's just it's it was just it's
very unique and interesting and well done. I've only saw
it once in the theaters. I should watch it again. Yeah,
so I'll definitely be watching this one. I like everything

(53:04):
ori Astro's done.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I do feel like horror is the place that we
go to for because, like, you know, like I was saying,
like just the actual dynamic of a pandemic is sort
of like mean, like you know, people just randomly, you know,
we tell stories and listen to stories because they like

(53:27):
help us like make narrative sense of a world that
is oftentimes like somewhat random, you know, and so and
I feel like pandemics and like plagues and stuff like that.
It's just like that's the thing that Camu book writes
about a lot.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
It's just like how.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Random it is, like who catches it and who gets
it and like people's inability to like kind of deal
with that. Yeah, but just that's not what we want
our stories to tell us. We don't want them to
be like, yeah, it's actually turns out all meaningless and
like fucking random, and like you just died because the
person who made your soup like had a bad teacher

(54:08):
in the grade where they go over germ theory and
so they didn't wash their hands like three days ago.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Just like that's not the sort of thing that we
go to stories for. So like horror movies that like
represent these fears and things like that, I feel like
that's probably where we're gonna work this shit out. A
writer jam was saying that twenty eight years Later has
a lot of like pandemic ease stuff in it, you know.

(54:35):
I mean it's literally about a pandemic that changes how people.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Live their lives. It's just you know in that one.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It's much cooler.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
It's a rage virus.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
But yeah, there's like a doctor who everybody hates because
he's a doctor and shit like that.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Everybody's fuck doctors, fuck a doctor, fun tell me. I mean,
that's that whole thing when people say, like I'm not
going to the doctor because they gonn tell me something's wrong. Yeah, yeah,
you know, it's a very American Yeah yeah, not a
good yeah, oh for sure. And also like you can
also understand it's like not only they tell me something's wrong,
it'll also cost too much money, right, So I'm just

(55:13):
gonna ride this one out until TBD.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I am.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
I am curious to see like how the sort of
lib Pascal Pedro Pascal character is kind of presented, because again,
like I think that from what it sounds like, people
are sort of annoyed about like everyone was kind of
fucking wacky during the pandemic. But I think I'm really
curious to see how how that how they're like actually

(55:39):
skewering that because yeah, the I know they allude to
like toilet paper hoarding, but that felt like a full
across the political spectrum.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Wacky thing people were doing. We were all toilet paper hoarding.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
It was not just the left, Okay, I still am
working my way through a stockpile.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Then that's that's why I felt like a fucking god
with my bid because I'm like Brian, use a toilet
paper like that.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I just need a little bit, you know what I mean.
That's it. The day got out here. I saw the
day God Day God. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Well, Siri, such a pleasure having you. Where can people
God bless you as we say it all of our guests.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Wow, you said, God bless you, God bless.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Siri. Where can people find you? Follow you?

Speaker 4 (56:27):
I think you have a pretty cool event coming up?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Do you have a cool event coming up? People can
find me on doll dot com.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Hell yeah, the.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Siri Doll again on Instagram and I'm on Blue Sky
at Siri doll dot com. I have one of those
fancy U r L user names.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
I am hosting an event in September called corn Telethon.
This is the second one, me and my and my
friend business buddy Alex Steed. We co produce it.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Alex Steed, Alex the Steed.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Friend of the show, and so Corn Telethon is a
much like the telethons of your in like the eighties
and nineties. We're fundraising for sex worker mutual aid nonprofits.
It is basically a twelve hour live, strained variety show
and it's very it's very fun and very grueling. I

(57:29):
think we had like forty guests, Like in person last
year we had a lot, like there's a lot of
it's just a revolving door every everyone's coming in to
play a song or you know, tell some jokes and
sit on the couch. And the whole thing is like
we're going to entertain the shit out of you for
twelve hours straight and please donate some money to a

(57:49):
good cause we like.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
And so it's truly a variety show. Like you're saying, music, comedy, wow, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Yeah, a little bit of everything.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
You have people actually answering phones.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
No, we don't, I don't know, we haven't. It's a
little like logistically challenging to set that up. And also
there's the aspect of like since it's it is live streamed,
like we're we stream it on like YouTube and Twitch,
which does provide like, yeah, I would love to do
a live call in line, but I watch enough other

(58:21):
live streamers to know that, like when you do that
on on those platforms, you're putting yourself at risk for
like a channel, because there's going to be some dipshit
who calls in and says slurs.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Like yeah, yeah, if you need somebody just in the
background picking up a phone and pretending to have a
conversation but the phone's not connected anything, hit me up. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
We wanted to do that last year and we kind
of like didn't have like yeah, it was it really
it was going to be more complicated to set up
than I think we had realistic time to achieve.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
But we might.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
We might be trying this year. I do. I've been
buying prop telephones. Oh really, I have two and third
on the way. Okay, But and in case I haven't
mentioned this, but in case it's not obvious, I feel
like it probably is. But it's called corn telethon because
we can't use the.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Word porn, right, that wasn't obvious to me, And corn
is like.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
The code word on that that people have been using
on TikTok for a while. Like when you talk about porn,
you just say corn or you use the corn emoji, right.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Nice, along with segs as people are still people using
segs still.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
Yeah yeah, I mean there's different versions of all of them.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
It's funny how much trying to skirt algorithms that tamp
down on our free speech has forced us to have
come like you're watching some corn, I mean porn? Sorry,
talking like the algorithm you do.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Always open conversations like that, you watch corn.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
You guys watch some corn. Forget it out of here, man, sorry.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
You guys get you guys got basketballs?

Speaker 3 (59:52):
You guys sell basketballs here. It's a library. It's a
public library. I knew that. I knew that.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yeah, that explains some very confusing conversation. I thought segs
was just like a short form for SEGS was like
got any Well, wonderful. People can find out more about
that at syree Doll dot.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Com, at corn Telethon dot.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Com, Cornon Yes there we go, September.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Four, wonderful. Is there a work of media that you've
been enjoying.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Yeah, unfortunately, I really enjoyed Temptation Island.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Mmm, Temptation Island.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Yeah, Okay, that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
I'd never seen so sad.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Yeah, because it's bleak. I mean that's kind of how
I feel about all the dating reality shows, but Temptation
Island in particular. Oh boy, yeah, oh yeah, deeply entertaining,
but also like wow, because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
It's like people who have their like unmarried couples, right,
and then it's like, I don't know, y'all, can I'll
handle so a bunch of hot people?

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
Yeah, and then they bring like twelve like they make
the well they separate them by gender, and then they
make them live with like twelve tempters or temptresses in
a house together, and then if they like there's a
point in the show where like if they have sex,
then like a claxon alarm goes off in the other house,
but so they know someone's fucking but they don't.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Know who it is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Yeah it's one of their significant others.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Wow, it's it's really crazy. Well, this is kind of
like I'm I'm not monogamous, I'm Polly, Like I'm in
a very long term relationship. But you know where we were, Polly.
So it's it's wild to watch. Like pretty much the
format of every single dating reality show is like we're
gonna make these straight cis right monogamous couples like microdose polyamory,

(01:01:53):
and give them zero fucking tools to handle it right,
right right, and of course it's always disastrous, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Yeah, that's what especially like once like a it's a
Netflix dating show, then I'm just like they're gonna turn
the like fuck you up to three hundred because like
that's how I even feel about like when like the
ultimatum and stuff, it's like a similar thing where it's
like I don't know, maybe all are gonna get made,
or maybe you go fuck this other person we pair
you up with and we'll watch you, you know, your

(01:02:20):
your relationship fall apart.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Yeah, And I can never really decide if I believe
that they're intentionally casting douchebags or if like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
You just happen to be a douchebag to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Yeah, or if it's people because I know, like people
go on reality shows for like a lot of reasons,
and I mean one of the biggest ones is because
you once you're off the show, you're you're selling something
to somebody, even if it's just your social media presence.
But yeah, so it's like, man, how many these people
are actually this much like of a degenerate or or

(01:02:52):
is it just like this, You've created a degenerate persona
for this reality show.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Yeah right, I've had some of them look in the
mirror and they don't even know anymore, right yeah, mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Also they just like get people really drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Is this one of the lawsuits from like Love Island?
So I've heard. I don't know much about it because
that's I just started watching the new season of that one,
and like I haven't been paying close enough. It's like
kind of slower paced.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
Right right right, Yeah, but all the ones, like the
early two thousands of late nineties dating shows, those are
all just booze filled.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Yeah, Like I think I think it was. I hope
I'm not miss speaking, but I'm pretty sure because I
have a friend who was telling me all about the
Love Island lore that they like there was a lawsuit
that resulted in they don't just get like unlimited free,
like they have to buy their own alcohol like the
people on the show now on that on that one
to limit over.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, wow, awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Miles.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Where can people find you? Is there a work media
you've been andenjoying?

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Find me everywhere at miles of gray. I'm chatting shit
about four to twenty day or a ninety day fiance
on four to twenty day fiance with Sofia Alexandra. That's
where I talk about my nonsense reality dating show Kick.
And let's see a work of media, like, yes, this
is a post on blue Sky. This is from at

(01:04:21):
doctor Yen's Fold or yensfold dot de posted news Malcolm
Jamal Warner, who you've admired as a kid, has died me.
No news Ozzy Osbourne, who you've admired as a kid,
has died me. No, Hulk Hogan, who you've admired as
a kid, has died me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Ah, oh well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Just love that Hulk Hogan died.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Yeah, and then so did Chuck MANGIONI right after that.
Oh no, a great trumpet player that was made famous
on King of the Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Not Luigi's dad, not Luigi's I was like, why that
name sounds so from.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
The check if you remember King of the Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
I think he died in the megalo mart explosion or
he was in that episode anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
And he also he's.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Made a ton of hits that like, you know, not
Tory's big sampled and chuck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Man, Joni was a man.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And then the next one is from John Scott Railton
at jas Relton scout as Social. It's a it's a
graphic of like a new Mercedes dashboard and it says
Mercedes Benz expands collaboration with Microsoft to boost in car
productivity with enhanced meetings for teams app into an integration
and Microsoft three sixty five co pilots and they quote
tweeted and said, consider your honor that my client was

(01:05:30):
being extremely productive at the time of the crash.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Yeah, maybe that'll get Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
That'll help.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I like to tweet somebody who was like, when you
call customers support and a clanker picks up and it's
that picture of the guy like pulling the headphones off, beeling.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Oh. Jose Mourinho Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
And kit Ger Mulvana tweeted, can't believe I've lived far
enough into the future to learn the first slur for
robots clanker, dang. I got a dang clanker on here
blank or say customer service. But anyways, you can find
me on Twitter, Jack Undersquirrel Brian and on Blue Sky

(01:06:09):
Jack Obi the number one. You can find us on
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We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song that you

(01:06:31):
think the people might enjoy?

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Yes, this is from the producer bt B Searle. It's
spelled B S E A r L. It's The track
is called sold My Soul and it's just like a
really nice sort of like super minimal dancy track, kind
of R and B. You'll like it if you have
if you got a little bit of honey in your hips,
you're gonna like this track sold my Soul. It's a

(01:06:55):
head NodD So check this one out from B Serial.
I don't have any honey in my hip currently, but
I wouldn't mind getting some. You can test it with
this track, Jack, you might make your big toe shoot
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Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
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