Top 10 of 2025: #9 Vladimir, STAAHP! Oscar Voters Getting SCREWED 04.25.25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, zich Gang, and welcome to the end of the year.
During these two weeks surrounding Christmas and the New Year,
we take some time off. During the mornings, we'll run
some new holiday and end of the year content that
you can listen to while we're taking a break. This year,
we've got our review of the year, movies, predictions for
the coming year Santa University. We look back at some

(00:23):
holiday classics with Chris Croft, and so much good stuff
dropping in the mornings. In addition to all that stuff
in the afternoons where we would usually drop the Trends episode,
we are rerunning the ten most popular episodes of this
year according to you. You voted with your dang years
and we listened with ours. Actually, we looked at the

(00:46):
data we're spying on you. Honestly, I'm mostly in this
podcasting thing for the rich marketing data it provides to
me about each and every one of you. At the
end of the year, when I look back to see
what made the top ten, and this was actually my
favorite year to look back at. Our top ten is
full of episodes I feel like made it because of

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a bunch of different reasons. There are some episodes that
dropped after huge news events. There are some first episodes
that dropped right after some hilarious news events, some great
new guests, some classic fan favorite guests, and some new
formats we tried out that we're very excited to see
that you guys enjoyed. Before we get into it, I

(01:30):
just want to thank you guys for once again being
such a cool community that's bloomed up around this podcast
we've been doing all these years. You guys repeatedly make
us proud. You're there for us when we go through
some really difficult shit. You show up at shows of
our guests, and we always get great reports from our
guests about our listeners. You are the rare podcast audience

(01:55):
that makes us extremely proud to have you as listeners
so far, So don't don't fuck this up, you guys. Alright, alright,
without further ado, here is the ninth most popular episode
of the year. Uh. It's called Vladimir Stop and Oscar
Voters getting screwed by being forced to actually watch the movies.

(02:17):
It is with Joel Monique and Rosie Knight. It dropped
on April twenty fifth of this year. Enjoy Hello, How's
it go ahead?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Good are you. No yawning, Rosie, no yawning.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Come on, Andy, is no yawning.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
All that while you stop so the yawns area that
was a full twelve minutes time.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I'm just doing I'm doing a lot of yawning.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, I'm getting.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's just I'm just into yawning.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
In twenty twenty five, this.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Show is pretty boring for the guests, and we're using
because they do yawn while we're talking something I brought.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I brought that into this.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I appreciate the rule now I understand the depth behind it.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
I'm sorry I'm a fragile male podcast. Though those words
are redundant.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm a male podcast, a guy. I'm just a guy
standing here in front of a girl. Yawn not the
first time, not the first time. What are you yawning
at me?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
I'm trying to tell you something really important.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yawning Sometimes they're not yawning at you.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
You're just like you're just like waiting for your wife
to wake up and just so you can yell at
at her.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
To me, you're boring, I'm not what are we yawning
at today?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three eighty five,
Episode five of Dy That Guys Day production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America Share consciousness. Never heard of it, America Share Consciousness.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Nope, I'm unconscious. Oh no, yeah, yeah, I try to be.
It's much easier, much easier. Yeah, yeah yeah, kind of
sleepwalking just to mix it fast food in cannabis. You know,
that's how I reached the next plane of existency.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, not storing memories, I thought, Yeah, yeah, that's helpful.
It is Friday, April twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. Yes, yes,
it's double two five. This won't happen again for another
three hundred and seventy five years. Okay, I'll happen again
next month. Sorry, yeah, I don't know. Hey, you never know.

(04:48):
The world might end, so you rue that's true.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it's also But actually, today, April twenty
fifth is National Historic Marker Day, so you know, pay
respect to those historic markers you see on the road
that are like, oh is the this place where history
has taken place? National Hug a Plumber Day, National Hairball
Awareness Day for all.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You feel like those are related hairballs in my shower.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Oh yeah, this is for cats. This is cats hairballs. Yes, yes, yes,
a health a health concern. National DNA Day, National Arbor Day,
Shout out Trees, National Zucchini bread Day, National telephone Day.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Do you even use telephones like that anymore?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh? Yeah, constantly. I'm just always at my at my
corner waiting for the payphone to ring. You know, remember
you see that happen in old movies. It's like that's
the plan. Yeah, you're gonna get it called on that
public phone.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
I used to know the payphone number at my elementary school,
amazing because that was a fun thing.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's what we had a like
at a dorm there that I lived in, there was
the public phone that, like your parents would just call
and people would be like, you're like Jack.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Is for you.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Exactly, crazy kids, Jack breck up that row.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Anyways. Also, the hairballs in my shower are also a
health hazard.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah okay, yeah, good, don't clock your drinks.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka j D. Went and
killed the Pope. J D went and killed the Pope.
J D Went and kill the Pope. Jdent. You kind
of can see where it's going from there that Gerald
Dean Rice on the Discord. Super producer Victor sent this

(06:39):
article to the Chat yesterday. Did you guys to see
the quote from jd Vance when asked about being one
of the last officials to meet with the Pope. He's like,
I thought a lot about that. Actually, it's pretty crazy. Actually,
obviously when I saw him, I didn't know that he
had less than twenty four hours still on this earth.

(07:01):
It's like, Da, that's in fact, that's so obvious. You
feeling the need to say it makes me want to
take another look at that assumption, right right right? You
didn't know he had less than twenty four hours.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
I didn't realize my skin would burn when I touched him,
though I wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I didn't know he would gasp and say I've never
seen such evil before and fall into a deep COMA
crazy dog. Anyways, My life is like a movie dog.
There's a movie, dude, the same movie. Joined as always
by my co host, mister Miles. It's Miles Gray. When
Sainte Dice Worsing podcast, lad.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Lead us fucking go.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Contractions, No day, shall masstand lead us fucking Golsy on
salad because yeah, we no focus contractions, and it sounds
better when you say, let us fucking go, so let
us let us let us please?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Shall we anyway?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Sad?

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Thanks for that one, and apologies for my Louis Armstrong impression.
But sometimes you got to dust off the old vocal cords.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean, I feel like that is putting a time
limit on your podcasting career, whatever whatever it takes to
do that. That feels like that hurts.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
No. No, it's great, it's great, it's great.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's no problem. It's annoying to everyone in my home, though, Miles.
We are thrilled to be joined by two of the
people behind the amazing nerd culture podcast x ray Vision,
brilliantly talented executive producer and the award winning host, respectively.
Please welcome Joel Monique and Rosie No.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Something I like to call us Iheart's Home for fandom.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
We're the home for the fans. Come and talking about behind.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
iHeart home for fandom.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Hell, that's what some people are saying, so many, and
many are saying many.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
You're right, you're right, We're.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
On the men cross there. I heard it's home for fandom.
How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Doing.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
What a time for fandom, What a time.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
To be alive.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
We dubbed I p mcgeddon because I think we are
in im.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
No, you killed it with April. April to May has
been wild last of Us and or Sinners.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Obviously like unbelievable, smash it very glad that just coming off.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Again.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You're saying sinners and or the last of us and or.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
If you want to pick one or the other, that's
also fine.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Yes and all.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
The critically c named Disney television program by Tony tonesone
Gilroy The Tones and found.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
The Tones into the Tone Zone Day. I love Michael Clayton.
I love to get taken to the trust me.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
We've been talking about Michael Clayton too much.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
In real life, Like me, Joel and Jason in one
group chat, You're gonna be getting a Michael Qualayton.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
That was the other pitched tagline for the show. We're
talking about Michael Clayton, maybe too much. People.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Many people say they are the home for too many
Michael Clayton references.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Oh yeah, just I want to be I just want
to be off like that dude and Michael Clayton.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, I mean to the universe. You know glove treatment.
They just come in, they take care of you, handle everything.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
We handle it. You won't even know.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Check their watch as your pulse is fading. Yep. And
is the wildest Like that scene is written on my soul.
Oh yeah, so dark.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's just it's the clinical nature of it.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
It's because you're like, oh, they've done this, They've done
their ten thousand hours of of set up deaths. They're
like the Beatles Germany spoilless.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
For this movie from two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Guys, it's a it's a hit that happens in the
movie Michael Clayton. That is clinical.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
And also.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
And yeah, I feel like in a in a Boeing
era that we're living in. You know, you're thinking about
it all the time. You're like, wow, I'm also Tony
Gilwory like just an unbelievable talent, you know, not only
as and or a really fantastic television show, but he
also wrote The Cutting Edge.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Like the ice skating.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
The Range.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
On Legacy Cutting Edge.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
We we've been talking about it, me and Jason, we
talked to Tony about it last season.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I'm sure it will come up again. Advocate like, yeah,
it's just like he's doing all kinds of stuff. You know,
he's a great guy and and or is. Yeah, it's
like a masterpiece.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
But I mean, one thing that can be said about
Miles and I will with the number of a ks
we've had so far as oh, I have so many names,
advocate reference, thank you. Wow. All right, we're going to
get to know you both a little bit better in

(12:31):
a moment.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of
the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about
Trump's approval rating being in the in the shitter? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Am I reading this correctly? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's s H I T T e O.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. The ship Vladimir stop stop stop it Vladimir.
He's a steely negotiator that tweet. Really, I'm not happy
with the Russian strike on Kiev. Not necessary and very
bad timing. Vladimir stop. Five thousand soldiers a week are dying.

(13:10):
Let's get the peace deal. That really was giving Ellis
and Diehard another really old but where he's talking to
Hans Gruber, He's like, huh, babe, put away the gun.
This is the radio, hot television, come on, Like just
I had no idea who he was dealing with to
this moment. Stop, Oh my god, stop, why are.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
You sounds like a husband trying to communicate with his
wife on Facebook. They turn it down, like Dad, this
is public. Please.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yes, we'll talk about the new Academy award rules that
seem onerous to me.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
They seem too harsh, really hot, just copying the Golden globes.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
We might talk about media literacy, we might talk about
five Fire Festival, all of that plenty more. But first,
Rosie Joel, we do like to get to know our
guests a little bit better by asking them we do
something from their search history that is revealing about who
they are. I'd like to ask you both for that.
And then I understand that you've decided to trade off

(14:18):
the overrated underrated.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Yes, wait, Rosie, can you go first on search history?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I can, because today I was looking up the very
exciting laws around internet safety when you work for a
large corporation. So I was searching exciting things such as
I'm like one hundred years old, guys, I'm looking at
my history.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm like, where's the.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Such guys like I don't remember the acronym, but okay,
I'll tell you this is a good one. Currently in
my search history, I do have my training, which I
was trying to learn about different kinds of important health
and safety. I also have a reddit for what do
people give out free at K pop concerts? Because I

(15:05):
was making a present for my friend who loves kpop.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
And what's the other most interesting history thing?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Wait, what do you mean give out free at a case?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, let me educate you, because I too am I
am like not a young hip person anymore if I
ever was, and basically at K pop concerts and I'm
sorry to the Taylor Swift fans it was their first.
It is very common for the young girls and the
young people who go to these shows. They make fan

(15:35):
photo cards of the K pop idols. They switch kind
of all kinds of merchandise. People will take plastic cups,
people will take those light sticks. And when you go
on Reddit and you look at freebies on concerts because
I am just a dad who looks up everything on Reddit,
they're just these unbelievable hauls that these girls get when

(15:56):
they go because there's you know, twenty thousand people there
and they're all switching around little bracelets with their bias
on it or with the name of the band.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Like the Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
It's kind of like that, but like more extrapolated to
multiple different kinds of merchandise. And a big part of
like K pop popularity is these things called photo cards
where it's just like a little photo of the idol
and they trade them kind of like trading cards. So yeah,
I was looking up that kind of stuff to arrange
a cute surprise for a friend, and I was really

(16:26):
learning a lot, as I always do when I go
and read it and ask a question that one hundred
and forty year old men have asked before me.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
My daughter's going to a K pop show?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Have you tried just going to Google and asking their AI?
Absolutely not, Oh.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Okay, dude, I'm just as a as a person who
spends a lot of time on the Internet and who
writes a lot of articles and does a lot of journalism.
The moment that that came up, I was like, I
have to pretend it doesn't exist, yeah, because otherwise at
one point I will You'll get okay because I'm busy,

(17:02):
and I will get gone, and suddenly I will be
writing something completely factually inaccurate. I'm like, I gotta stay
to the sources I know, the sites I know, and
mostly that has just led to me just going to
the thing like comic Book because you can't.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
You got to ignore it.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Google completely broken for completely, like years now, and now
they just have a thing that's like what what if
we just like took from the top five results that
have been wrong for years?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Yeah, this is my first old man yells at cloud
moment where my kids don't.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Look at the AI.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
It's terrible. They are so frequently wrong, and it's really terrifying,
Uh if you're a person who really enjoys people reading,
because I feel like it's just reducing literacy, like I'm
Branson by even more, and you're just like, it's it's
just Google is just it used to be so accurate,
you guys. Remember when Google was good? Always go over

(17:56):
there what you're looking for?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
So wow, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, I mean I remember using ask Jeeves, guys, I
used have a butler, a personal Internet that cs I've
ever been.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
That was kind of the beginning of the AI creep though,
because with ask Jeeves, I remember it was totally set
up to be like rather than a search tream like
you're asking yeah, yeah, exactly in a conversational way. But
I mean the more I look at like AI and.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I hear like like like men talk about it's like dude,
like you can actually do therapy on there and.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Stuff like, I'm like, I'm now convinced AI was just
created so men didn't have to appear like they didn't
know anything.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
And no, I think that you I think it was.
That is one of the biggest problems with it is
it is exactly that because I didn't.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Realize in my you know, naivete as somebody who's just
too old to have been sucked into it. Multiple friends
that I have who work with people who are in
their twenties are just constantly catching them using it, like
it has become the go to so quickly to just
put something through chat ETP or ask them a question.
And then people come on the Internet as they always

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have done, an act like they are an expert source.
But the funny thing is now they are getting it
from like a before you might have gone to a
fandom site like fan sourced media and archival spaces are
really really important and have for a long time been
like at the heart of a lot.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Of genre fandoms.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
But you would go there and you would feed someone
else's thing. You would maybe do some research, or maybe
you just quote it from Wikipedia. But now you're literally
just quoting something wrong.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Like nine times out of ten.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
That AI answer is going to be absolutely incorrect. I
was looking up something about the technological safety. I'm really
sure I'm making this corporation feel great. I obviously all
the lingo down, but don't worry. I will never put
a USB stick where it doesn't belong us.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, I know that much.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
The thing that you learn in those trainings is if
you find a USB stick in the parking lot, don't
don't load it up, don't let it up, don't just
take pick it up and plug it directly into your
computer as I had been doing for forever.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I was outdated, because whose computer even still has a USB.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Plus exactly no one.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Dongle.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah, but thirty dollars.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
I really need it.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
But like, even during that while I was trying to
understand a bit more about like these different legislations that
have come in in the last twenty you know, since
twenty fifteen or whatever. Every time I would be googling
to try and understand more about it, because I'm like,
if I'm going to do the training, I may as
well actually learn something.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
So I googled it and then they are legit giving.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Me like the incorrect answer and information in the top,
while the correct thing is in the you know the
answer below, and that I think as well, Joel, you
must under you must know this feeling. Me and Joel
both came up like doing you know, journalism, entertainment, journalism
and stuff. And if you wrote like a big deep

(20:54):
dive interview or a law piece five years ago, the
best kind of feeling of achievement was if yours was
the first answer, you would be like, Okay, I'm the
most sited. I'm ever like this is me now, I'm
like that better not ever question, I definitely got.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Something wrong, like right, yeah, I mean it just generally
like it's a is a perfect replacement for men, and
that they just created a machine that will give an
answer that isn't correct very confidently, you know, like made
by men for men, and you don't replace men.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
You don't and you don't have to struggle in public
squear of men because you can quietly just.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You know, like your phone and even for fucking therapy. Yeah,
I mean I know, and like I can.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
See that there are potentially non malicious applications of it,
but like when I see the amount of people like
reflexively like just think that that's the answer, that's what
That's what spooks me out.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, Joelle, is there something from your search history that's
really your funny?

Speaker 5 (21:59):
You bring? OK Pop? Cause I was looking up Black
Pink tickets.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
I like.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I like Jenny, She's cool. Uh, everyally loves Lata Lisa,
She's pretty, sly, girl's got her a little uh to
put up at a song that I'm doing, It's like.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Maybe, now see the girls song is everywhere.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
It's literally taken over my feet. And I was like, well,
maybe I'll go, but tickets were more expensive and then
I paid for.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Beyonce and I was like, oh shit, I can't. I don't.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
I think I can't do that. I can't. So I'm
just gonna wait. And there's still a ton of tickets
left though, so I'm like, maybe geosure to the concert.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
We'll say what about this, Joelle.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
This is not an advertisement, as I am not sponsored,
but I do enjoy the Game Time app where you
can buy a ticket like two hours before a show
and it's like twenty bucks. That was what happened with
Beyonce last time. There was all these people buying floor
show tickets, but like sixty bucks. Wow, like as long
as you're like a couple of hours away.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
So I think you got the right idea.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Now I've explored the game time app yet, but let
me downloaded, because I'm also looking at floor seats for
the w NBA games when those started back up. You know,
I've been wanting to go, haven't you? Yes, because it
was you. You were telling you abou how much from
the WNBA games were, and I was like, I got
you go check these things.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Out the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
You can buy because the Sparks ended up as the
lowest team, if not maybe one of I think it
was the lowest ranked. But and I went to the
last game and it was unbelievable. The girl I just
wanted to cry. She was like, I'm so sorry, We'll
do BETD like the captain of the team, and I
was like, no, you are amazing, Like it's okay. None
of us watching this are professional athletes, but that's like

(23:34):
it's okay, Like you didn't tend to the cheapest they had.
When I emailed to find out about the season tickets,
they had season tickets that started at like four hundred bucks,
but like not terrible seats.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Because I just too a big place for the queer
girlies to like hang out, meet one another, see amazingly
tall Amazon women on each other, like I'm just really
here for And I.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Will add another selling point, which is when I went,
two of the girls had a fist fight. It was
it was Brittany Griner and one of the girls from
the Spots and they got in a fist fight and
they literally pretty got the game and they both got.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Ejected, just straight up ejected.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
It was.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
It was pretty sick. I'm not going to sports.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Fight is a top tier. I've never been to a
sporting event where there's been a fist fight, but there's
one happening and I'm like, I'm on my feet immediately,
I was like, let's go, let's see. I just love
I don't you know fighting, I r L but sports
are in real life. That's it. Those are millionaires punching
each other.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Somebody writing somewhere. It's like, just let them fight.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
It's fair.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I feel like there's a lot of there's a lot
of blood lust right now in the sports fandom, Like
there there are a couple of NBA series that, oh,
I have a really good chance of in Round one
of the NBA Playoffs of going spilling over into street
fights and everything.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
It's like the same reason people watch hockey, they just
want to see somebody beat someone else up, right, That's
the the same reason people go to the to see
any kind of large, slightly dangerous event is like, oh,
what if it went wrong? Like there's a human curiosity
there and you're right twenty twenty five springing.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Out the bloodluss. Oh what if the horses and the
Kentucky Derby started fighting each other? Okay, that sick though
I would want to kind do.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
You want to see the animals?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Put up your hoops.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Just take a quick break and we'll come back and
find out what you guys think is overrated and underrated
and get into some news.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And we're back, and Rosie, we do like to ask
our guests, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Wow, I'm so sorry to everybody listening to this, because,
as Joel knows, it is essentially my job to love
underrated stuff on the Xtra Vision.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I am the only fan of the.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Marvel's Eternal movie Eternals movie, which I thought was wonderful
hard sci fi so and I'm that has been my
cross to bed. I am sitting in my Marvel Eternals
gaming chair that I bought as a troll on a
discount at some point and has now just cemented me
as the number one Eternals fan. But that's not what
I'm going to talk about, because it's actually finally slightly
rated because of letterboxed and Disney.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Plus.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I'm going to tell you about the most underrated film
franchise that you've never heard of, and it is the Vivica,
a Fox produced and starring in twenty seven movie long
lifetime franchise called the Wrong Movie Franchise, or as I
call it, the Wrong Franchise. Every single movie is directed

(26:37):
by David Deacoto, who is a gay eighties schlock director
who is most known for horror, but has moved into
the TV Made for TV Movies space. He's very well
known for a really one of the worst movies ever
made that's generally recognized that is called A Talking Cat,
which has Eric Roberts voicing a talking cat, and it
is like a perennial midnight movie classic.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
It's insane. But the Wrong movies are very simple.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
They are women in peril, as we call Lifetime movies,
nine acts structure, and every single one is called the
wrong cheerleader, the wrong real estate agent, the wrong coach,
the wrong cheerleading coach assistant. Like they get more and
more niche as they go, and they are really fun,
schlocky be movies. And Vivicar is amazing, and she also

(27:24):
owns her own wig company, so she's always got those
nice wigs on in the movie, which Lifetimes movies do
not often have. But the best part of every movie
is about five or six movies in they realized that
they were kind of onto a camp classic. So at
the end of the movie, when like five people have
been murdered by whoever the wrong person is, Vivica like
turns around and she goes, I guess you hired the

(27:46):
wrong real estate agent.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And it is incredible.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
And they make twenty seven of them, and they stop
making them about two and a half years ago, but
I'm like desperate for them to bring them back because
it is I think it is I think lifetime movie.
This is my pitch, my general underrated lifetime pitch. It
is the contemporary B movie hub of the world, which
that crown may be being taken by Chuby originals now,

(28:10):
but it has been for a long time. Like eighty
percent of their movies in twenty twenty two were directed
and written by women. So it's also a space where
the numbers of people they get to make the movies
are like so much more diverse than you would think.
And it has Vivik a Fox basically like doing a
campy bit at the end of every movie. So go
and watch them, guys, the Wrong Movie franchise. My dream

(28:32):
is to make a podcast called the Wrong Podcast where
I just rewatched them all with Vivica and talk about
the master pieces.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
What yeah, So it looks like they ended on twenty
six and twenty seven. The Wrong Life Coach was twenty
six exactly the Wrong obsession, which I don't know that
could be anything. I feel there's twenty more that's too vague,
yeahea vague.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I have a specscript that I wrote because I was
so obsessed with them.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
That's just the Wrong the Wrong publisher and she's like
a Kathy like female cartoonist right doing strip comics, but
her editor is like becomes obsessed with her and then
tries to steal the comics. And I'm like, guys, you're
going as niche as like the wrong real estate agent.
I think we can move it into like publishing comics space.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Like that they did the wrong They did the wrong
cheerleader and the wrong cheer captain. So they're they're willing
to the wrong cheerleader coach exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
There's multiple lifetime of his love cheerleaders for something.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
This is my the three thousand dollars Jessica Fletcher question,
because Jessica Fletcher is a character, you know, the Star
Murder she wrote, is a character who it doesn't really
she's a mystery writer, but it doesn't really make sense
that ninety percent of the people she's ever met get

(29:50):
murdered or are involved in a murder. Her town has
a cabinit cove where she lives. It's just like you
if you're going to get murdered. Yes, what is the
reason that Vivigae Fox within the movies is involved in
so many murders?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
They they did learn from the murder she wrote trope,
and while they could have made Vivica the same character
in every movie.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
That is not the case.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It is not like a shared universe because most people
who watch lifetime movies just turn on if Vivica Fox
is in it, They're just gonna turn it on. So
sometimes she is a main character, I think the real
wrong real estate agent. She is the one who gets
the real estate agent who becomes obsessed with her. But
often she might just be like the head teacher of
the school.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
So it depends as.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
She goes, and they're always different characters. It is not
like Jessica Obviously the Murder of Fletcher and I watch
that show like religiously. There's a twenty four hour free
murchcy wrote channel on Roku TV, so that's like one
of my ultimate work things. But yeah, her and mid
Jessica Fletcher and the guys from Midsummer Murders.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Like, if you ever see them, just don't just leave.
She's the angel of death, Jessica Death.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Wow, what a gig for Fox to just be like
a supporting character who's there to just turn around and
be like, looks like you picked the wrong high school exactly.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Do the Horatio from c s I Miami yeah every
time and throw the sunglass.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
But I'm sure they don't have the budget for the
who for these.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Do a sound alike.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Instead, they got the who the whos? Joelle, What is
something you think is overrated?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
I feel bad because I'm sure this has been on
your series before because it's basic AF But I think
leaving the house is overrated. It's good to leave, it's
good to go outside and touch grass. You want to
do that. But sometimes I feel like people are very
they're too excited about me. Well, there's so much to
do here. I'm like, but I perfectly curated the internal
space of my domicile to comfort me, like a womb,

(32:05):
so I can rest and reset my physical and mental being.
And I just feel like we don't appreciate the protective
spaces that we've created. Fire girls stay in the house sometimes,
sometimes talk to no one. I just really think alone
time by yourself, decompressing is not valued like it should be,
and we should course correct.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
I think it depends on how important it is to you.
I can't socialize unless I'm alone for a significant period.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Of time to recharge the social battery.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yeah, like I'm I'm like an extroverted introvert. I guess
like people be like WHOA like when you're like you
like to talk and you make I'm like, bro, I
have to then go into my fucking Dracula coffin basically
and be like I'm going.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
It's a six hour honestly, like this energy and then
we're done.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, That's why I love hanging out with Joel and
like being besties because by with of us, if we're
just like I don't have any energy anymore, man, like
I'm just out.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
We'll be like cool. I'm also doing home like.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
This is great.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I'm just gonna I love to cancel.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
A plan or just well we'll just stay in one
of our houses and just lay on the sofa there.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Like Rosie once hosted a Hunted sleepover where she got
us so great lilyse little popcorn bowls plushy, which was
so love us little beds, and we like we were
just cozy watching horror movies in Twilight Zone and honestly,
well seeing the other day that was like I can't
date man because my girlfriends take me on better dates.
And this is exactly what I mean, peak deep, It's

(33:40):
so true.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Like my friend one of my besties Annie, she texted
me and it was a tweet that someone had done
where it was like, why can't you like just find
a man and settle with the man.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
And it's like because my friends text me like this,
and it's like, oh, the love.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Of my life, the soul that I was meant to have,
Like how can I go one day without seeing your
face hearing a voice note.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Like you light up my life? And it's like and
you text the dude and it's just like, kay, period,
you're awake.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
What's going You're getting the Yeah, you're getting the call
drago like love like.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
You are the stars.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Just how goes talk to each other.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's fantastic, lovely. All Right, I think you made your case.
I'm never leaving my house again. Let's get in get
the tissue on news. Let's get into some of the
reasons that I might never want to leave our house again.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Right allio, Joel, look at that. Just you're you're a producer,
you could never question it.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
So one of the things, like, as we're watching everything
go to complete hell around us, one of the things
that I my brain always asks, is like is everybody
else seeing this? Like this is like this is bad, bad, right,
like this where we all think this is bad, turns

(34:54):
out not everybody, but Donald Trump's approval not not in
the greatest place. No for coming in being like I'm
the most popular president of all time.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yeah, he has a current approval rating of forty percent
after one hundred days. That puts him at the lowest
ever since the era of polling, only second to Donald
Trump in twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Keep it himself company down there.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah exactly. You know, you got it.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
You gotta stay sharp, baby, you know what I mean.
You've got to You always gott to push yourself. You
gotta push the deal.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
And I think like, yeah, to your point, Jack, You're
like ah, because usually, like the republic like the Republican base,
when you pull them, they're like, no, I love everything.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And this is great and this is how it's supposed
to be. It's not. The things are trending downward in
a consistent way.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Now. Granted, more Republicans obviously approve of what Trump is
doing than not, but only by about like, like.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
There's a solid thirty three percent of Republicans are like, no, it.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Is this do that?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, Oh, he was gonna the other countries pay for
the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, they ever have impacted me. I thought he was
gonna take away the bad immigrants. I was a good
one because I got in.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Oh so, the places where he's really just truly fucking
up in the eyes of the American public, obviously, is
around inflation and tariffs. That was about only thirty three
percent approval rating there. And I think most people who
understand that, you know, we toil under capitalism with the
promise of maybe retirement based on our stock market gambled
retirement funds that we get, they saw those take a

(36:32):
hit and are like, what in the fuck happened here?
Like that was just I think just so tangible for
people in a way that you couldn't just culture war
that away.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That he's definitely hurting there.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Then on the economy, just overall record low, record low
approval rating on the economy thirty eight percent. This is
these are all coming from a Fox News poll. Okay,
like this is as friendly as you're gonna get in
terms of like Trump pulling then without look like so
seventy one percent of respond and said that they rated

(37:03):
the economic conditions negatively. Fifty five percent said that conditions
were worsening for their families, right, that's yeah, those aren't great.
The one place that pulling is above fifty percent for
Trump priming, yeah, is on kidnapping, I mean immigration, but
even those but even those numbers are trending downwards. Like

(37:26):
you can see, it's way different than February to now
because now more people are seeing the methodology and they're like,
what the fuck is like this all end teering is
just horror stories and just disappearing people with you know,
no regard for due process or you know, their status.
Seems to not be the winning combination that he thought

(37:47):
it was. A naturally, Trump responded to this pull on
his favorite about his favorite TV show with anger.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
He said, Rupert.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
Murdoch has told me for years that he's going to
get rid of his Fox News Trump hating fake polster,
but he has never done so. Yeah, this ulster has
gotten me and MAGA wrong for years.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, okay, takeaway truth Social.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
That's just like I think he's funny and I like
his like catty like slights, but also like he just
doesn't need to be Just put a press release, bro, like,
no more truth Social, no more responses.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
He only.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, he only speaks in ship posts unfortunately, so that's
he's fluent.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
That to the people. Get right in there.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
But I mean, like when you put this against the
backdrop of all the l's that he, like Trump has
taken in the court of public opinion and in the
literal courts, Like already a judge knocked back the sanctuary
city funding band that Trump was trying to enact, said
he has to bring another person back from El Salvador,
like just in like the last hour. You know, then

(38:52):
you have Musk been an utter failures, just a.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Total fuck up.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
The courts keep ruling against him. He's angered his own
base with the tariffs, measles is well and truly bashed shit.
And he couldn't even pretend you had the nerve to
really even start a trade war with China and obviously
the Russian thing, which we'll get to in a second.
But yeah, I mean, we're seeing like sort of the
same Trump in terms of like his personality and what
his level of commitment to like fucking things up.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
I think we could get lucky. He could just be
like I want to do this anymore and just quit.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I've been waiting for that.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
His kids have been like hinting at that since he ran,
They're like, you even need to do this?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
You rich?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, he did, just pump and dump like the entire
American economy. So hopefully he's made enough money in that
that he could kind of back up, because like, I
just feel like there's only gonna be so much money
you can rint from this bro before something happened. So
I'm like, just speed it up, and like Joel said,
let's just you can go live in mari A Lago

(39:53):
or whatever and just leave yes, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Golf till you're dead, buddy, Just leave me the fuck golf.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Till your dead. I mean to your heart's content.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, seeing, I mean so content, your heart can't take
it anything because there's so yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
So filled with love.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I mean, I feel like you could almost feed him
to death like a goldfish like that.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Not that I'm.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
And you advocating for the killing.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Never I'm saying that that could theoretically happen, like someone cruel,
but he has too many like dieticians around him just
being like, sorry, sir, that is the seventy fifth coke
of the day and live it. But come on, contractually, one.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Cup of water for every five sodas.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Come on, No, I don't like the way it tastes
shot glasses of water, like.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
You just got to that.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Very dehydrateed god.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Desicated.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
It is.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Cruelty to poor people and people in other countries has
always been a lagging indicator. Like I feel like Americans
just having lived through the George W. Bush administration, like
that that was a thing that we were like, how
are people still on this shit? And then pretty swiftly
it takes like a good year and then people start

(41:21):
being like this guy seems like a fucking idiot and
he's like also really cruel to everybody and killing everybody. Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
America just loves to do that.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Like the fact that Guan Tamana Bay never got shut
down even off everything that happened is exactly what you're
talking about, is like there's some kind of lagging understanding
of like other people's humanity.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
It's just this, it's the unfortunate privilege of being so
insulated in America that it's it's completely abstracted people, and
it's only until.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
What happened to my four oh one k yes exactly.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
People are like, oh so now that you got touched, yes,
you have now you're waking up because you didn't have
the mental capacity to forecast any of this, probably because
you didn't give a fuck, but now you are forced to.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
And now you're like, well, who'd I get angry at?

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Yeah, you're fucking guy, bro, Like I just saw someone
post a a Facebook post or some Trump sports Like, Sir,
I bought a handcrafted guitar from the UK and was
asked to pay sixteen hundred dollars of tariffs on this.
I do not understand as a veteran why I should
pay when I'm purchasing an item from a luthier in
the UK from an ally, Sir, I will be protesting.

(42:34):
I am with you, but this cannot stand.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
It's like, hey, dumb fuck, this is this was always.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
The fuckingh like every this is the The tariff thing
is like kind of pushing me over the edge because
many times you can say that people were not well informed,
they didn't have the right research, they didn't have the
right information. There are many reasons people vote different ways.
I'm not had to judge them as someone who has
a green cold and cannot vote. But the tower thing

(43:00):
is killing me because actually I saw every single day
from podcasters, to news anchors, to random people just having
conversations in coffee shops explaining to people that you will
be paying the tariff like in this time, I'm like,
this is this is the one where there's no plausible
deniabilly people was coming to you and saying, hey, that's

(43:22):
not how tariffs work.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Don't listen to him. Even some Republicans you know like it.
And I'm just like, guys, this is the thing, like
you did it.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
You were so sure that everyone else was just lying
to you, and only Donald Trump was telling you the truth.
Like I'm sorry, like pay those tariffs because you fucking
should have listened.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, this, I mean the thing with all especially what's
happening now, I mean, it's different than twenty seventeen, and
that like they had a lot of time to warm
up for what they were going to do this second
they got in office and knew exactly what sort of
you know, support systems they wanted to.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Kick out immediately.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
But then they also brought into this administration the mentality
of the previous one, where they believe that some issues
just American people weren't paying attention to and didn't care about,
and like it's gonna be fine, Like we'll be able
to do all this shit and they won't even fucking notice.
But this is a completely different version now, and now
they're having like the shock of being like they wait,
they normally didn't care about this kind of stuff, Like

(44:17):
they just like the economy or whatever. They just like
the concept of it rather than how the methodology on
how we improve it or not.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
But yeah, this is I do see.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
I do see an opportunity for a classic Trump grift
on his base, like where he's gonna fully walk back
the tariffs and potentially stave off some kind of catastrophic recession, yeah,
and then claim victory yeah, and be like and I
saved everybody's money.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
You can thank me. That's why I need four more years.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
It's like, but you were the cause of it all
to right, We'll see.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
How quick the memory fads.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's gonna be interesting to see if because the like
the New York Times and a lot of mainstream outlets
have been like granting him wins where there are none,
Like when he's like Trump gets Trump gets a concession
from Mexico and like agrees to pull back tariffs. It's like, no,
they just said that they were going to give him

(45:14):
a thing they had already said they were going to
give him like a month ago, but it allowed him
to claim victory. Like I wonder if they'll do that
again with China, because China is not even pretending, Like
China is just like, we're not even talking to this China.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Said now with Korea and Japan, and they were like.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
To get the three of them together.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I know they do not usually get along, no, And
I understand just.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
He can unite people in it.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
But I think that Miles, you you struck on the
true annoying, most annoying thing as an observer about Trump's
like aw of the deal, and many people have noticed this,
but I'm going to coin it in losing nut terms.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Joelle knows one of my most.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Hated things is why I cool Walking Dead storyteller, and
it's when the TV show would take five episodes to
solve something that could have been solved in a conversation
in the first episode where you start the story, and
that is Trump's art of the deal.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
He's like, he focks it up.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
He does something that really like honestly ruins people's lives,
whether it's this horrific deportation or anything else like Tariff's.
And then he comes back and gets a slightly worse
deal than what happened, you know, five.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Hypothetical episodes ago, five months ago. And then he's like,
look at me, I saved the day.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
It's like, no, sirn Like you are the one who
started us on this path of destruction and now we
have a worse deal than we had before.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
But he gets to say that he did deals, so
that's cool. His president deals, so yeah, deals president. He's
also I mean, the one thing that I think nobody
can deny is this guy is tough when it comes
to international stuff. I mean, the way he is having
to beg Putin and say pretty please on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is so tough.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
That's the I feel like that could end up being
like one of the ways that his whole stance of
like I'm the only one who can fix this. Only
my conventional wisdom is right. Every other thing anybody has
said is wrong. Is like his approach to Putin being
like yeah, yeah, like we're on Putin's side, We'll give
him whatever he wants. Like that that is so obviously

(47:25):
wrong for so many reasons, Like Putin is an autocrat
and you know, militarily is just looking to you know, conquest.
He's like, you know, we've seen this before throughout history,
and the thing that works is not going out of
your way to appease that person. Like appeasement was a

(47:47):
strategy before World War two and it is not looked
upon kindly. And just like yeah, I don't know this
last thing. Where as they're trying to do peace talks,
Russia struck Kiv with like the biggest attack in like
almost a year, and he's like, hey, Vladimir stop, like

(48:10):
it's a real Apparently he's not taking his calls because
he on true socials that Vladimir comma all caps stop.
Five thousand soldiers a week are dying. Let's get the
peace deal done.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Just I don't know, imagine like talking to a bond
villain like that, Like yeah, like he's literally about like
I don't know if guy's have seen his house in
the mountains. It's like a how do you describe this?
It looks like a brutalist architect designed like a villain slayer.
It's over seeing a giant forest, it's isolated on top

(48:49):
of a mountain. It's all white, it's very crazy. I
think it's kind of interesting to me, like Trump is
like the popular girl at school, you know, like he
thinks he's on top, and now like he's trying to
figure out how to talk to this guy to get
him to listen. It's insane to me because Putin's never
listened to anybody in his entire existence, and the fact

(49:11):
that he thinks he can maneuver because I think I've
been reading a lot about narcissis lately. Yeah, and I
one of the things that people think, you're like, the
narciss are not trying to be cruel. They believe their
delusion right, And to think has.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Been reading a lot about narcissists Vladimir Putin, Russian military
and intelligence. Literally, yeah, just tell him he's right, dude.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
He'll do anything.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah, that's and I think that's the wildest thing is
that we have gotten into a situation where there is
almost like too much transparency, like we want the fake
version of this, where it seems like there is some
kind of safety net around the idea of who the
president is and things the president canon can't do, which

(50:01):
I have learned since moving here in twenty seventeen is
essentially a trust based system with like no laws and
it's just depends what the person wants to do, which,
sadly the Democrats is usually nothing, and for Republicans has
like become an authoritarian government. But it's like the mechanics
and the machine are no longer there, pretending like Trump

(50:23):
has sent a strongly worded letter to Putin and he
called him and told him don't do that, you know. Instead,
it's just like he's on his own weird Twitter jupe,
sounding like you know, a ca yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Valadam and also like who believes that that's going to
make Vladimir Putin stop? Like are his followers?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I want to know what the support rating is, like
his polling numbers are specifically for like do his followers
actually think when he posts that that he seems like
a cool, big tough man or does he just seem
like the little baby brother like stop.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
I think people are like, he's trying to be tough man.
I read that as Vladimir stop, you know, and that's
how I that's how I read. That's the that's the
ambiguity about text. You know, you can you can put
any kind of meaning on top of it. But yeah,
there's like to your point, he does have this thing
where he's constantly having a reckoning with reality versus what
his own expectation.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Is of how people are going to receive him.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
And like even with in regards to like Zelensky and
making a deal, he's like, okay, so let's make a deal.
You're gonna get fuck all, You're gonna seed all this
territory to Russia and you can't join NATO, and you'll
give us all of your rare earth minerals.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
How does that sound? And he's like no.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
And now suddenly he's like, fuck Vladimir, stuff's.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Got to watch and or there's some good messages in
there for him, like power doesn't panic, the main lesson
from season one, there's some good lessons in there for
season two for him.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
Please don't tell they will watch and they're like, you
know what I learned from anim The Imperial.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Government seems great.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, ultimate power, ultimate control looking good, and those those
scorntry pursuits beautiful, fairly nicely.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
It would be a win if it made Republicans as
a whole look better at.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Least that killing us at least make them look nice.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
we're back, and man, it just got a lot harder
to be in the Academy. I'll tell you what, I'm

(52:43):
not interested anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I wouldn't wish this job on my worst enemy.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
These people.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
So, the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences have
updated their rules for next year's Oscars, including a bold
new requirement bulls YouTube watch the movies they're voted, all
of them. Yeah, like that's the crazy. The Academy's Apple
track members viewing to ensure they've watched all the nominiques,

(53:10):
and if they saw it somewhere else, they have to
like say where they saw it.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
And I know, is the PHLM gonna be like you
go to get it notarized by someone that the screening
to be like they really did watch this movie. They
didn't walk out halfway.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I saw it on like Friday at the AMC. I
think which which one?

Speaker 5 (53:33):
These tickets are digitized. If you're going to a festival,
you got your digitized tickets and go to the AMC.
Trust me, you're an ac sub member, part of the Academy. Okay,
you got you got it right there, So you's your
phone you can pull it up at any time. There's
it's never been easier, and then you just sign in
when you go to your Academy screenings. This is so long.
It's egregious to allow people to vote without having seen

(53:54):
all of the.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Rosie Rose.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
You're from the UK, I mean, do they they have
the voters for the Basters do such an absurd and possible.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Onerous You may be shocked to know that BAFTA has
actually been doing it. I can imagine Rosie which I
actually think there's something really interesting for somebody more data
minded than me. I'm a vibees guy, you know, I like,
I know, like what comic book issue someone arrived in,
But I'm not good at maths or data. But I
think there probably is a very interesting data based piece

(54:28):
out there or exploration of what the differences in the
Baster and the Oscars have been over that last few
years where Baster was actually having to watch every movie
because sometimes there are some big sea changes at the
Bachts when a movie will suddenly take like ten awards,
but then doesn't do anything at the Oscars. And I

(54:49):
wonder how much that correlates with the fact that people
just weren't watching the movies, which I think is very
obvious with pretty much every year of the Oscars is
like there will be something where you're just like, how
did that get in?

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Like why is that?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
What one?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Why was it?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (55:08):
They sell them charismatic.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I should comb to all the billboards on Sunset, Dude.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I think about those billboards all the time. It must
be so weird as like an LA lifer, because when
I drive past them, I'm always like, oh, yeah, this
is just for the execs, right that people, so that
sixty people will say, ah, they're spending my money, Like
this is where the money goes. It's on this giant billboard.
And it's completely wild because you end up kind of

(55:38):
they live style seeing through what at first is like
a very glamorous, glittery experience of like, oh, for your consideration,
for your consideration, Wow, Like they're really pushing this actor
I love.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
But actually ninety of.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
The people who are voting for the Oscars are probably
like not even going to notice that billboard.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
You know, they're gonna say it's over here, over here,
the billboards just started directly addressing them.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yeah, don't fire the guy, don't fire the people who
Who's list. It's a miracle, don't do.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
We're watching fleabag. We're watching fleabag. Over avert your eyes,
avert your eyes.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
The Yeah. For people who aren't from l A, there
are just like a next level billboard campaigns, like we're
really like well designed aggressive, like there there will be
like you know, a billboard with like things popping off
of it and.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Oh my god, the nine one one billboard that's by
Lax where it has the people it has like Mannequin's
coming out of a three D roller coaster. That show
started like eight years ago. Guys like, why, I'm happy
it's still there. But like that's the level of of
dedication they.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Have, and the like continued on another billboard like across
the street.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Right, yeah, I'm surprised.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
More accidents don't happen over there. They're very like eye
catching and huge and sometimes not subtle in the text. Whart,
You're just like this, so what am I looking at? Really?
It's right, it's hell if you've ever driven down since
its grand theft auto, yes, obvious, and you have those
like really horny billboards and the main part that's it's
exactly right, It's exactly that vibe.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
I think the other thing is like Angelina is like
we we've just we're just numb to them because the
aun the time.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Blindness.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
Yeah, it's a fucking bunch of bullshit on the street
and I don't give a fuck. I'm trying to get
to my job.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Like all this.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I definitely like feel that, especially about the area of
sun Set where there's like a where the Rainbow lounges
and where all of those spots are, because there is
now basically a permanent almost a block where Netflix will
always do the most insane adverts. So whenever I'm over
there for work, it's like the stranger things like scary

(58:00):
Monster and there's like smoke.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Coming out of it.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
And when Millie Bobby Brown was in a movie called
Damsel that nobody watched, there's like a giant Milli Bobby
Brown with the sword and I'm like, guys, it's just
like a photo op. Like is this way you're spending
our extra money every month? Like, I don't think you
need it, my friends, how about you just watch just
make people watch the thing. You know as well, a
lot of people in the Academy, because it's the most prestigious,

(58:24):
they are getting like crazy swag. They are getting really
beautiful for your consideration, DVD box sets that have like
every A twenty four or Neon movie that was released
that year, and then you just don't watch it, Like
come on, man, They're giving you physical media, like please
just watch watch the Blood.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
It's nice.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Maybe one day streaming will be over and you'll be
wishing that you had the ariy Asta Triple Bill box
set or whatever they send people in it. But yeah,
I mean, I think many people on the internet were
rightfully shocked about this, that this was already like the
only job you had you do I mean, I.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Know, like the logic would say, well, this will only
help voting become more efficient. The other part of me,
know is like people with any shred of privilege will
do anything that like according to the way they want
to do it. So I can also see other people
starting to fake like being like.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Oh yeah, I saw that, Kevin, And honestly I was
saying this before we started, but like, honestly, like do
that then, like the real reason they have here, like
the big reason in my opinion, just from like what
I've seen and the way this stuff is reported on.
Last year, a lot of the trade kind of anonymous

(59:36):
voting pools that they do where the voter say a
bunch of bitchy stuff and everyone reads it and it's like, wow,
why are you allowed to vote in this? And but
a lot of them last year, multiple ones were people
saying they hadn't watched every movie. I didn't watch this
because I don't like it. I didn't watch this because
it has Oh.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
I didn't watch you know.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Conclave because Ray Fines already has an oscar. I didn't
watch you know, The Brutalist because Adrian Brody already has
an oscar. He'd actually only just been nominated. And then
when then you saw what happened, so don't vote him again.
But like, yeah, it's it's very funny that I think
they were too honest, and I think that everyone online.
And then the thing was like, wait a minute, you're

(01:00:16):
telling me like the reason Anora one is just because
you guys didn't watch the other movies. Like that seems insane.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Did you even watch Anura if you voted for it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Maybe not?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
So I think this is a good idea. I saw
a bit why she's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Like dancing in the boys apartment, you know, I just
skipped that and then just everything else that Tyler was fired.
That's why I'm like, I'm like, just lie, Like if
you don't want to do it, just lie, and and
that you could have avoided all of this because I
have used multiple and Joelle, I know you've been through
this too, multiple badly positioned IP streaming services where they

(01:00:54):
want to take your data as a viewer or as
a journalist and they'll add an app to your Vocal
TV and then stream through there. This reminds me of
the one south By Southwest did a few years ago,
and it was so janky. It was just always full
of glitches. It was so hard to watch the movies.
And I do not believe that the Academy is going
to have a better working one. So I think we're
gonna see a lot of complaints about the app. And

(01:01:16):
I did watch it and it didn't say it would work,
and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Is that how are doing it through an app?

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
There is an app that basically works like how our
Netflix preview content works, so they can see if you've
watched the whole movie.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Academy, call Apple TV. No, they have the best one.
It's fluid, there are never any issues. Whatever they're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
You do that too, cool paper, No, that's what Like
for the Hollywood Forum Press, they were given Apple TV units. Yes,
I like sort of this proprietary software on it to
be like all right, okay, you don't want to go
to the street, like especially during the pandemic and like
the height of the lockdowns, they weren't. They weren't, like
physical media had kind of ceased, and like, okay, just
do everything through this Apple TV and there you go

(01:01:57):
watch it and it was so simple.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
It's really like the people in the Academy are going
to find a way to make this a free speech issue.
We shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
To do this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
We shouldn't have to watch the movie speech.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
You're violating my free if I won't consider a Democrat
for president, and I always.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Do not have to be a member of the Academy.
You can go on with your life and do something.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Exactly I watched last year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I watched five hundred movies that I logged on my letterbox,
like I could do it. I'll watch them all.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Let me letterbox community as Oscar voters for two years.
Let's just see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Great at least that would be cool if they were
like using letterbox as like the Miners, where they're like
just trying to score for talent idea, give them a
check mark.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I would also say as well, like this, Yeah, this
speaks to another problem, which is the struggle between like
the idea of like a popular cinema and what the
OSCAR celebrates. And I would I think that this could
lead to us having more blockbuster accessible movies being recognized
because I think that for a lot of these Academy members,

(01:03:02):
especially the older ones who weren't brought in in the
last few years, they would probably actually more enjoy watching
like an action blockbuster than they were watching a lot
of these movies, especially if they haven't been watching them.
So I'm interested to see if that if this kind
of weirdly like opens the door.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
And casting and stunts, that makes it exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I wonder if they're if we'll also see no more
three hour long movies. They're like, fuck that, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
I actually think suddenly ninety minute movies, two hour long movies.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Sinners should be the front runner for everything this year,
especially with cinematography, with stunt work.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
It could really be that that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Well, be forward to the package for stunt work, you know,
like the thing in the broadcast where they show like
how the best stunts were done. Did you feel like
that could be really cool?

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Did you watch the Oscars last year? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Okay, so do you remember basically the they had a
package like that that had been part of the promotional
kind of push for the Fall.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
Guy or Fall Guy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
I think it was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Okay, Ryan, the Ryan Gosling Emily Blunt movie, and basically
the entire aim of them making that movie was to
get a stunt oscar recognition, So they kind of did
a package and it was super super cool and everyone
was just like, why are we not already giving the
award like so many movies. So I think that could
be really sick, especially if they get like, you know,

(01:04:27):
you know, Tom Cruise is going to be trying to
get like that Michigan Impossible ship on there, so who knows.
Maybe Tom Crause shaped like me, Yeah, He's gonna like
parachute into the Oscars or something like I'm here for it,
like let the stunts roll.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah, And for casting, I think they should have to
say who was also being considered who the studio was
trying to get them to cast in the role when
they cast when they like, especially if yah just like
have the worst possible person in the role, like to
do a scene, be like, do you see how bad
this shit could have been? Yep. Anyways, Rosie Joel, such

(01:05:04):
a pleasure having you both on the daily Zeitgeist Rosie,
where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all
that good stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Me and Joel do make a very fun podcast with
my co host Jason Concepcion and are incredible other super
producers aboot Aaron.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
And Carmen, and we are on iHeartRadio four times a week.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
So if you didn't think you got enough of me
yapping great news, you can hear a lot more yapping.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
That's really fun.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
It's every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday where we do
a news episode, so you can listen to that. I
am at Rosie Marx m r X on letterbox and
Instagram and all those other things, but I don't really.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Use the other ones. But yeah, it was so great
to be on here. Thank you so much for having us, guys, And.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Can be social media or a show.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Well, I have.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
I am a perennial murder, she wrote rewatcher as we mentioned,
but I have been really enjoying the JD bands Killed
the Pope memes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
That's been like getting me through.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Like I definitely I had a really one of the
one where it's like the hieronymous post like painting of
the devil, like shaking hands with you know, a religious figure,
and then you have the same image from the White
House pool of JD. I loved the just killed the Pope,
like that's what JD stands for. A big fan of

(01:06:26):
all of that. So yeah, those those those memes have
been keeping me going. I'm a meme lover.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Just killed just killed it the Pope?

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
That's your name?

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Just amazing, Joelle. Where can people find you? Is there
a working media you've been enjoying?

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Yeah, I've been Joel mon You can you find me
out of the internet at Joe Monique. That's j O
E la e emien I q you e ID two one.
Lady David wrote a New York Times satirical piece called
My Dinner with Hitler, sort of taking on Bill Maher
having dinner with Trump. It is hysterical and delightful. Shout
out Larry David for being a real one is real,

(01:07:04):
It's so great. And then just what, I highly encourage
everyone to check out and or it is a as
what did Jason call it? Like how to how to
how to build a resistance? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
How to build a Rebellion?

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
Yeah mm hmm, yeah, it's it's genuinely touching in ways
I could not have fathomed, and it is significantly better
than the first season, which I thought was great, Like,
this is truly to me, this is the best season
of television since The Watchmen, And I take that like
it's it's seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
It's pretty unbelievable and it's definitely one of those shows
too where like just timing wise means that they couldn't
have been trying to predict stuff, but it feels extremely
prescient when you do watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
It absolutely feels like a letter to you about doing
your shit together right now. It's like there's no time,
there's no time to get shit together right now. It's
brilliant and beautiful and it's truly start if you're a
Star Wars diehard, like I am. Uh, this really gets
to the heart of like what makes Star Wars great
and yet it's elevated to like a BBC Masterclass level
of television. It's brilliant. I really enjoy it, so I'm

(01:08:13):
trying to get everyone to watch it. My insider pro
advice is wait till Friday, when you can watch all
episodes back to back. There's three episodes. You can watch
them separately. It is still structured like television, but it's
so much better when you're watching these like a full movie.
So that was my tips.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Go check out Andrey Damn that's Everyday is coming from
Joel Mooney.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Miles.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Where can people find you as their work and media
you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah, everywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
They got at Symbols at Miles of Gray. The basketball
pod is Miles and Jack got Mad Boosts. The ninety
dight Fiance pod is called four to twenty Day Fiance
check me out. There a couple posts I like from
Blue Sky at Lauren dot Rotating Sandwiches dot com posted
work is giving us a Chick fil A breakfast buffet
and a Ben and Jerry's ice Cream Social today and

(01:08:59):
what I'm calling the most successful political both sidesing of
all time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
And then at Kendra Rights dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:09:09):
On Blue Sky posted this video from TikTok of police
harassing a guy in Massa clearly in Massachusetts based on
the person who is filming this. The caption on the
video says, I started a reverse neighborhood watch program. Basically,
he's observing the police and this interaction is just it's
just made all the better because of this guy's very

(01:09:32):
distinct Massachusetts Boston accent.

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
It doesn't look like anything you're allowed to drive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Oh sorry, so in this video I should describe it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
This is a this is an audio medium's This guy's
across the street filming like three cops hemming up some
guy like outside of a car and just stopping him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
We don't know the reason why.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
But again this is where the man starts yelling at
the cops to leave him alone.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
It doesn't look like anything. You're allowed to drive wherever
you want. It's America.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
It's America.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
It's America.

Speaker 8 (01:10:01):
They're just racist. It's okay, they're just racist. You a
lot to drive around with it if you're a minority,
good man, How you doing you guys still protecting pedophiles
like phaiyyah?

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Here you go have a great day.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Fuck you, he said, and he said he was referencing
like in the video, a pop up comes up about
a lieutenant from their police department that was charged with
like child child sex abuse, and that's then the guy says,
why don't you go back to your house?

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That's he goes, yeah, fuck you, why don't you go back?

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Sorry that came out of nowhere?

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It was exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
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This is I'm saying, this is like the off the party.

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Then you can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky
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the information that we talked about In today's episode, we
also link off to a song that we think you
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think people might enjoy? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
That song that arrently played is a banger. It's by
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It was just a really fun play on the.

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when I really missed, like sincerely misunderstood.

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What you said and only for it to be a
Papa joke, Papa joke.

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Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
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